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Albus Dumbledore has been making decisions about Harry's future. He seen to his protection, well being and education since birth. He has kept a constant vigil over Harry. I believe Dumbledore will continue to aid Harry. Nobody can love as he did without making preparations to continue to be there for Harry especially after death. Dumbledore continually said there were things worse than death as though its not a complete finality. Jo eluded to the possiblity we may hear from Sirius again and that Dumbledore wouldn't do a Gandalf. So...why not Dumbledore?
How do you think Dumbledore will "be back"?
lord_brademort February 7th, 2007, 9:19 pm Well, I think one of the key things JKR has said in regards to this is "Harry has amassed more knowledge than he realises".
Which to me seems as though Dumbledore has taught Harry everything he needs to know to start on his path to getting rid of Voldemort.
I also think a few more memories will have been left in Dumbledore's office, one of the night of the Potter murders hopefully - we have to see that scene for ourselves!!
Also, Aberforth will be able to shed some light on his brother.
And let's not forget Dumbledore's portrait...
Lepricon February 7th, 2007, 9:21 pm As far as i know their is a forum about it. DD is dead. We all have to admit it, as sad as it may be.
haiya227 February 7th, 2007, 10:44 pm Jo said Dumbledore is dead and is not going to pull a Gandalf... sooo if he comes back it will be in a memory or in his portrait.
_Ravenclaw_1207 February 7th, 2007, 11:09 pm I don't think Dumbledore is going to come back in any form. Not saying that I don't want him to, I just really believe he's gone for good. I think Dumbledore has taught Harry everything he needs to know. I also think there's a lot of information in the Pensieve that could help Harry find the Horcruxes.
mactabard_25 February 7th, 2007, 11:23 pm I agree with most people. he is dead. if we see him it will be as the portait. I have wondered however, if he may possibly come back as a ghost like Nick. That is very unlikely though, but it still makes me think.
haiya227 February 7th, 2007, 11:25 pm No Dumbledore will NEVER come back as a ghost he says the next great adventure is death and also remember his funeral when we saw a phoenix fly into the blue that probably shows he left.
mountainman123 February 7th, 2007, 11:26 pm O.K. There are so many people saying things like this and it's really getting on my nerves. The pensieve does not hold every single memory it ever held, but the last one that had been observed. Therefore unless Harry has bottles DD left, or is trying to remember some of his own experiences, the pensieve will not be ready-made to give Harry everything he might wonder. Of course I have no proof, but I strongly believe the pensieve will not show Harry whatever he wants to view. Go ahead and correct me if I'm wrong and I will sincerely apologize.
haiya227 February 7th, 2007, 11:27 pm We aren't discussing this in this thread..
swpoison February 8th, 2007, 1:46 pm As far as i know their is a forum about it. DD is dead. We all have to admit it, as sad as it may be.
:-( yeah I agree dd is to dead to help. Hopefully he left something behind for him though
gryfindors_heir March 21st, 2007, 2:54 am he might lend harry help through his potrat...all former headmaster and mistresses had one and they communicated almost like they were alive, almost.
Wright1771 March 21st, 2007, 10:06 am I can't see Harry going back to the Headmasters' rooms every time he wants 'a chat'. McGonagall would be a bit sus, don't you think? No, the clues to the way I see it are on P. 600 and P. 606 of HBP.
taupimu March 21st, 2007, 10:56 am I think that Dumbledore's information is going to be available to Harry some way. JKR has already said that Dumbledore was giving her trouble when writing DH.
aggiefan1206 March 21st, 2007, 6:37 pm I think that its entirely possible that Dumbledore has left some kinda of information with certain people. Maybe he gave different order memebers little pieces of info so no one knows everything but harry can gather the info he needs. Dumbledore is a thinking/planner surely he did something to help harry in the event that he should die. I am pretty sure DD knew his time was coming to and end. i am almost 99.9% sure that he has left items, letters, or other things to help Harry out.
snuka March 21st, 2007, 10:06 pm Pensieve? Aberforth? Fawkes going to Harry?
Just my hunch.
ciaran35 March 21st, 2007, 11:04 pm Yeah, I definitely think both Sirius and Dumbledore will be back in some form in Deathly Hallows - they may not actually appear (physically, in a portrait...) but I think we'll learn something more about them either way.
So how will Dumbledore be back? Hm... another Pensieve memory? Maybe one from Harry's 6th year... maybe he kept a memory after Harry left his office after one of their lessons? Maybe he saw a significant reaction from Harry to one of the memories Dumbledore showed him...
Weasleywannabe March 21st, 2007, 11:12 pm Pensieve? Aberforth? Fawkes going to Harry?
Just my hunch.
I totally agree. He probably left something behind for Harry, but in what exact form.
Also, how much will the portrait be able to give Harry? What kind of info will it be? How much can they comminicate, or do the portraits only concern themselves with what they have seen/heard since being a portrait?
Sorry, lots of questions and no answers.
RJB March 21st, 2007, 11:33 pm Yer, i think that the portrait is a none strater but the pensive is the safer bet maybe there will be memories of Dumbledore and Voldermort, there's definently going to be more to their history so why not?
Sile March 21st, 2007, 11:42 pm Pensieve memories, A last letter, Objects left to Harry in DD's will or His portrait in the study may be able to help. Also DD was the greatest wizard of the last century so there are bound to be other portraits hanging about MOM maybe or the department of mysteries
DiMakir March 22nd, 2007, 12:12 am Hmmm, a bit far fetched I know but after my most recent re-read of HBP I have had an idea - another memory of course but from the night when Dumbledore and Snape argued near the great forrest.
What do you guys think?
Of course, this idea totally ties in with the 'Snape is Dumbledore's man through and through' theory so many of you will likely disagree with it.
But I was thinking - if Dumbledore did infact arrange for Snape to kill him in order to protect Harry in such an event as 'The Lightninght Struck Tower' then surely he would want Harry to know aobut this - knowing how much harry already hates Snape.
Vampire_Girl March 22nd, 2007, 2:35 am I think it's either going to be through a memory or a portrait. We know that he is very dead, so he can't come back and help Harry personally, so unless a new way is introduced...
AL_Patterson March 22nd, 2007, 2:43 am The same way Old Ben helped Luke in Episode V and VI. Hopefully his conscious self appears.
cybereality March 22nd, 2007, 5:13 am I think he will have left memories for him, probably with Aberforth.
We have to remember too, that every single memory Harry has, concerning Dumbledore, Voldemort, battles, and even what he saw while in the pensieve itself with Dumbledore...he can withdraw with magic, put them back into a pensieve to analyze them. Although Im not too sure if he would work on this level, seems too Dumbledorish :P
mugglemom22 March 22nd, 2007, 5:32 am I think someone has a letter from Dumbledore to Harry. It starts, "If you are reading this letter, it means I am dead...". I doubt that it has any new information, instead it is a letter of encouragement. Dumbledore realizes that Harry will be devastated by his death so he offers solace and reminds him of his unique abilities that will enable him to defeat Voldemort. Who has the letter? Arthur, Aberforth or Fawkes are my guesses. It would be really interesting if Petunia had something of Dumbledore's.
gorgonfatlop March 22nd, 2007, 10:52 pm I am rereading Harry Potter 6 and I recentely got to this part where Harry and Dumbledore are in the Weasley's broom cupboard. They have already gotten Slughorn to join the Hogwarts staff. Harry says he wont have to see Snape that much anymore because he doesn't have Potions anymore. Dumbledore knew that Snape wasn't going to be the teacher of potions anymore, but why didn't he tell Harry. I think he may have wanted Harry to find that book. I think that leads into this topic of discussion.
Weasleywannabe March 22nd, 2007, 11:13 pm IIt would be really interesting if Petunia had something of Dumbledore's.
That would be quite interesting and not that far-fetched. Maybe it has something to do with the other correspondance Dumbledore had with Petunia.
That's a great theory.
EBJ23 March 22nd, 2007, 11:20 pm I think that Dumbledore's portrait will be helpful to Harry since it will be able to give him advice. I'm sure he also left Harry something of his like the pensive.
LostWizard March 23rd, 2007, 12:47 am I think DD left things to help Harry in case something happened to him. A couple of good places he could of left something for Harry would be OOP headquarters or even only DD could pull this off what if he left something for Harry in the mirror?
Shannah March 23rd, 2007, 5:25 pm I think this is where we will see the choclate frogs cards coming into play again, Dumbledore always said that he never wanted to be taken off of the choclate frogs cards, maybe this is why!
lunagranger March 23rd, 2007, 6:34 pm dumbledore helpin harry..i dunno why but I think his portrait mite help harry ... all the headmasters' are hung there in his office n DD mite help harry thru his portrait...
gorgonfatlop March 23rd, 2007, 8:46 pm portraits are only memories of a person, though, so my feeling on this matter is that it must be some other way!
poohpotter March 25th, 2007, 6:43 pm I think Dumbledore knew through out HBP that his days were numbered and that he was not going to live to see the next summer holiday. When he arrived at Privet Drive to pick Harry up in the Chapter 3 of HBP (and he also already had the blacken hand) he asks the Dursleys that they allow Harry to return once more to their house before he turns 17 to ensure that his magical protection remains in place until his 17th birthday. Why else would he feel the need to tell them this now and not when and if they decided the next summer to not let him come back? Dumbeldore did send a howler to Petunia in OoP.
With this pointed out I believe that Dumbledore has some kind of research file on Voldemort's Horcruxes that is full of possible items and locations, additional memories and other items that will help Harry in his quest to destroy the remaining Horcruxes.
iwantafirebolt7 March 29th, 2007, 3:04 pm I think Dumbledor will continue to help Harry, in many more ways than one. I am not sure about the details, but a couple of my ideas are:
1) That as a spirit (for lack of a better word) Dumbledor will be able to guide Harry. Just like Nearly Headless Nick, Dumbledor may even be able to stay in Hogwarts as a Ghost, since he was Headmaster there for so long.
2) Harry will be able to just feel Dumbledor around him and be able to use some of Dumbledor's judgment to find the remaining Horcrux(es) and finally be able to destroy Lord Voldemort.
These are not all of my ideas, but they are a good start. I will get back on this thread when I have other ideas.
deathly_hallowx March 29th, 2007, 3:13 pm I don't think he will help Harry. Portraits are only memories of people, so he would have no new knowledge of anything.
missypotter March 29th, 2007, 11:15 pm I too think Dumbledore knew his days were numbered. I am sure he has left information for Harry. I think it will be through magic perhaps only Dumbledore knew how to do. I think it could be the pensieve, a hologram of some kind, or one of his many magical tools. Dumbledore may have left all of his instruments to Harry in his will. When Harry goes through them he will find out much information.
The portrait will be useless to Harry. Their only purpose is to help, assist and advise the new headmaster/headmistress. It won't be chatting with Harry.
LadyMarmalade March 30th, 2007, 5:26 pm As DD was chief warlock of the wizengamot etc, it would be feasable that he would have a portrait in the MOM as well as being the headmaster, therefore having one in the headmasters office.
It may well not give Harry vital information but could be extremely useful to McGonagoll,( as it can switch between the two portraits) therefore being an enormous help to Harry through McGonagoll.
thestralseer April 9th, 2007, 12:43 am Well alot of people are going to be mad at me but I think Dumbledore had a time turner in is posession. In POA How did Dumbledore know to stall While Harry was getting Buckbeak. If Harry could find this time turner could harry go back and save dumbledore. He is dead like JK said but not for long.
Marchese April 27th, 2007, 10:39 pm Alright everyone, what do you think about this!
In OOTP, Dumbledore says the Ministry can kick him out of what ever they want, as long as they dont take him off the Chocolate Frog Cards...maybe THATS how he hopes to communicate with Harry...and maybe he knew all along what would happen (Snape killing him) and he planned all this...maybe Snape is good after all...
Spirit April 28th, 2007, 8:22 am Daniel Radcliffe said: 'Jo came down to the set at one point and I said, "Oh hello, why are you here today?" And she said, "Oh I just needed a break from the book - Dumbledore's giving me a lot of trouble." And I said, "But isn't he dead?" And she said, "Well, yeah, but it's more complex ..." I was like, [briskly] "OK, I'm not gonna ask anything else!"' back in February. From here (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,,2008889,00.html).
So he won't be alive, but I think we can count on him being significant in some way. Exactly how I have no idea. The portrait seems likely, but I hope JK Rowling comes up with something more interesting.
bap0485 April 29th, 2007, 8:41 am I think Harry inherited his possesions. He made Harry his heir. MAight be far-fetched, but maybe he was the heir of Gryffindor, and when he died, he left Harry his stuff making Harry their heir by extension. I think I think too much.
If He did leave his stuff to Harry, that would make it much easier for him to get to the pecsieve, and the memories. Harry was always interested in his objects. Maybe he'll get a chance to use them.
Symmetry April 29th, 2007, 9:00 am I think it would be quite interesting to see Harry inherit a lot of Dumbledores belongings too - memories included. A lot of people mention that obviously Harry will have to look through the memories of Dumbledores and others to find remaining Horcruxes, so Dumbledore leaving Harry with that as well as other possessions could be the only help Harry gets from him, bar the portrait.
bap0485 May 1st, 2007, 3:27 am it would be great if he got Fawkes too.
i_am_evil_RAWR May 3rd, 2007, 7:37 pm I think DD won't pull a Gandalf, but he will find a way to contact Harry, perhaps through his portrait.... remember, harry has to find the horcrux's!!!
austinthegreat6 May 3rd, 2007, 8:36 pm Hello,
This is my first post on Chamber of Secrets.
First I'd just like to say Hi.
But here is what I really have to say, I believe that Harry will be returning to Hogwarts mabye multiple times. Because whenever a Hogwarts headmasters dies he becomes a painting correct? In the headmasters office. So in that case couldn't Harry talk to Dumbledore through the painting on the wall?
Just a thought. Hopefully it hasn't been discussed already.
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