Questions about the 101 Questions survey

If you have questions about the 101 questions survey (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=102356), then please post them here. Please restrict these to technical questions! I will point out that at least three of the people who put this together have taugth at different levels: which means not only do we have experience with multiple choice tests, but we also know that there is no way to write a question that won't cause somebody to ask for clarification!

Okay, I don't mean to be totally annoying, but this is the question thread so...

Question 24c is supposed to say 'both a & b' correct?
Is there a reason some of the questions are in different colors?
Some of the questions that don't say [MARK ALL THAT APPLY] I want to choose more than one :blush:, is that a huge no-no? Are you gonna force me to choose just one? ;) (#40 for example)
If there's a question without an option I agree with do I just skip it?
Are you gonna put these results together with percentages and such?? :D (that would be awesome!) or is it just for our enjoyment. If the latter then I guess you can just ignore my q's since it doesn't really matter. :whistle:

EDIT: Okay, your explanation wasn't at the beginning of the thread when I first looked at it, ignore above questions that were explained there :)

EDIT: Okay, your explanation wasn't at the beginning of the thread when I first looked at it, ignore above questions that were explained there :)heheh: it happens. However, I just want you to know that you are seriously endangering gender stereotypes.... :cool:

This is too cool. I've got my answers ready, but i don't have time to put them down now (unfortunatly).

How long do you expect to keep this survey up, before you declare the result of the survey? :huh:

Although you obviously took a great deal of trouble in devising this poll allow me to advise you that the links DO NOT WORK. They all send one to the same page.

Had this not been the case I would have happily filled it in, but did not.

May I also suggest that in the title of THIS thread you either remove the word "for", or insert "/" between for and about, so that it makes grammatical sense, obviously being a stickler for detail, as I am?;)

All the best with that linking

Generally, what if none of the answers applies?

Why is the font blue? I can't read it. *gets glasses*

ETA: You have to post all your answers? Yowwie! You should've used Quizilla, my man. Save some work.

I agree about the colour thingy... to be able to read these questions, I'll have to highlight them all, which is very tedious. Or I'll simply copy the questions into word to be able to see them better

*runs around blindly*

*gasp* *pant* *heave* Done with the test! It was huge! Took me a while!

But Iiked it.

There should have been another option on "Foreshadowing in POA movie" because I believe it already happened in HBP.

I agree about the colour thingy... to be able to read these questions, I'll have to highlight them all, which is very tedious. Or I'll simply copy the questions into word to be able to see them better

*runs around blindly*All the four colours are perfectly readable in the following forum styles:
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:)

All the four colours are perfectly readable in the following forum styles:
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But not very readable in the Halloween style ;) At least not the dark blue
Anyway, it's not a big problem, I just highlight, same as with the spoiler tags.

All the four colours are perfectly readable in the following forum styles:
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*changes forum style* OMG, I can suddenly see :D Thanks!
This is a very good test. I'm not completely done yet, but the one thing I learned is that I haven't made any final theory yet about the final Voldemort-Harry battle; which is good in a way, as I want to be surprised. And just by looking over the questions, it gives you a concise view of what all the current theories floating around are :tu:

I think there's a mistake there :)
Voldemort's interest in Hogwarts that led him to seek the Defense Against Dark Arts job was : [MARK ALL THAT APPLY]
just to find relics for Horcruxes, and (the interest) no longer is really there.
to safeguard Horcruxes he hid there as a student, and thus still is there.
because he made Hogwarts itself a Horcrux, and thus still is there.
to create an army of dark wizards more swiftly, but no longer is really there.
as above, but no longer there.

How long do you expect to keep this survey up, before you declare the result of the survey? :huh:Good question! Two weeks or 1000 responses. Whichever happens first.....

All the best with that linkingLinks fixed.

Generally, what if none of the answers applies?There should be a "none of the above" for all of them. There are two types: one is that we will find out that it is something different from any of the above, and another saying that this topic will not even be addressed in the book.

If a question lacks that, then simply use the next letter after the ones given.

There should have been another option on "Foreshadowing in POA movie" because I believe it already happened in HBP.That actually was an option.

All the four colours are perfectly readable in the following forum styles:Whoops! I never thought of that. I go with good old Ravenclaw all the time.... The other forums where this is posted have a nice boring brown at all times, so this never occurred to us!


You have to post all your answers? Yowwie! You should've used Quizilla, my man. Save some work.??? The ravages of old age finally arise! This is some hip new thing about which I know nothing. That being said, nobody on the other group suggested it either....

I'm not completely done yet, but the one thing I learned is that I haven't made any final theory yet about the final Voldemort-Harry battle; which is good in a way, as I want to be surprised. And just by looking over the questions, it gives you a concise view of what all the current theories floating around are :tu:I am sure that we missed some, but we made a conscientious effort to get them all, and to take all of them into account for each question.

That actually was an option.


Hmm, must not have seen it...

ETA: Actually, I didn't make myself clear the first time.

Yes, the Snape guarding the trio was there, and the Buckbeak part... but what about "Let's walk you off the tower". That is what I am talking about.

es, the Snape guarding the trio was there, and the Buckbeak part... but what about "Let's walk you off the tower". That is what I am talking about.Hmmm... I guess that either none of us who put the test together consider that to be foreshadowing and/or none of us were aware that anybody else did! Foreshadowing should appear to mean one thing at the time it is done, but then come to mean something else later. For example, Sirius saying that he doubted that he'd be accepting the Ministry's apology foreshadow's his death because it becomes true for a very different reason. Now, if that line had been made in respect to Dumbledore (especially how it would be the last thing that he'd do), then it would have been foreshadowing. "The last thing Dumbledore would ever do is fall 50 feet" would actually be a true statement, even if it was meant in jest.

We did include the Buckbeak chasing off Lupin in quotes: that does not properly foreshadow what happens in Prince because nothing about it later says "Buckbeak will chase off Snape" the way that (say) Sirius' line says (ironically) that he'll be dead at the end of the book. However, we kept it because that seemed to have been a popular idea. (We put "foreshadow" in quotes on that one at the insistence of a couple of sticklers for definitions.) However, I guess that none of us were aware that anybody considered that line to be foreshadowing. (This is one of the limitations: if nobody thinks of it, then it does not wind up on the survey!)


EDIT: Geez! Quizilla looks pretty cool! I simply never had heard of it......

Hmmm... I guess that either none of us who put the test together consider that to be foreshadowing and/or none of us were aware that anybody else did! Foreshadowing should appear to mean one thing at the time it is done, but then come to mean something else later. For example, Sirius saying that he doubted that he'd be accepting the Ministry's apology foreshadow's his death because it becomes true for a very different reason. Now, if that line had been made in respect to Dumbledore (especially how it would be the last thing that he'd do), then it would have been foreshadowing. "The last thing Dumbledore would ever do is fall 50 feet" would actually be a true statement, even if it was meant in jest.

We did include the Buckbeak chasing off Lupin in quotes: that does not properly foreshadow what happens in Prince because nothing about it later says "Buckbeak will chase off Snape" the way that (say) Sirius' line says (ironically) that he'll be dead at the end of the book. However, we kept it because that seemed to have been a popular idea. (We put "foreshadow" in quotes on that one at the insistence of a couple of sticklers for definitions.) However, I guess that none of us were aware that anybody considered that line to be foreshadowing. (This is one of the limitations: if nobody thinks of it, then it does not wind up on the survey!)


EDIT: Geez! Quizilla looks pretty cool! I simply never had heard of it......

I understand completely. I was just wanting to let you know that I was a bit confused on what my answer was with that, but did one anyway, but that would have been my answer.

It was a good quiz, though!

Generally, what if none of the answers applies?

Yeah, there were a few where I felt like that... and I have virtually no opinion on Snape (shocking, I know! Whatever do I spend my time in fandom doing, I wonder? :D), so I just muddled through those as well as I could. Thanks for the answer though, Wimsey; I guess I'll go back and edit if I think about it any more.

Also, am I dim or were there actually 105 questions? *ducks and runs*

Ok, great survey, very long!. Is there a reason why there wasn't one question on Luna? I'm not criticising, just wondering :)

Also, am I dim or were there actually 105 questions? *ducks and runs*
the last five questions are about your opinion on the books, not about something in the books themself. I should know - i helped to create the test!

the last five questions are about your opinion on the books, not about something in the books themself. I should know - i helped to create the test!

Hence the ducking and the running =D Look, I'm off topic again! Wow, I do that a lot...

Also, am I dim or were there actually 105 questions? *ducks and runs*To elaborate on Jammi's post, the "extra" are purely demographic. That way, we can examine correlations between the type of people who answer and answers.


Ok, great survey, very long!. Is there a reason why there wasn't one question on Luna? I'm not criticising, just wondering :)We tried to come up with one, but there just did not seem to be any obvious questions hanging over Luna. I think that she is a possible answer on "who croaks." We did at one point have a question on whether she just sits the book out, or joins the Horcrux hunt at some point. That might have been cut. (We liked "101".....)

That was an awesome quiz. Thank you for helping me pass the time at work! The questions really helped me formulate my own ideas. Especially about Snape and Draco.

P.S There are different types of forums?:scared:

Amazingly, yeah!

That was an awesome quiz. Thank you for helping me pass the time at work! The questions really helped me formulate my own ideas. Especially about Snape and Draco. Heh, well, if we do that, then we count it a nice side effect!

I do regret that we could not come up with more Draco questions. Snape was easy: but, then, most of the people responsible for the survey think that he is the most interesting and complex character in the series (myself included!). Draco was a little more difficult, but there still are a couple of intriguing questions hanging over his blonde Chekovian locks......

Fury: I altered the "foreshadowing" questions "Half-Blood Prince" answer so that you can simply answer "it happened already." If nothing clearly fitting Rowling's suggestion happens in Hallows, then given that it is not unequivocal what Prisoner foreshadowed in Prince, and given that Hallows cannot up and say "the movie foreshadowed something in the last book!" this is the best way to answer it. Sorry that I missed the astronomy tower idea!

Awesome survey! Seeing that you all took the time to formulate this monster I made sure I took the time to take it.
I found actually writing down the answers first and then typing them up was much easier for me.
It took me quite awile to finish this test mostly because I was struck by a number of theories I hadent seen before (leave it to me to stop keeping up with these forums for almost a year! AHHHH!) and I was menatally exhausted by the time I finished.
There were a few questions that never occured to me would be relevent such as Kreacher's dementia and where Slytherin's locker is currently located.
My only comment is that it seemed a few of the questions heavily weighed upon the idea that Snape is still a good man. I personally think he is evil and will remain so for the rest of the series so I had some difficulty answering one or two of the questions!

Anyway, great job! I can't wait to see the results!

- Some of the answers, none applied but I wasn't given that option.
- When I finish the questionnaire I will list those where none of the answers were applicable and I had to choose something I didn't agree with.
- "None of the above" should be an answer for at least 3 or the questions I have done so far.

- Some of the answers, none applied but I wasn't given that option.
- When I finish the questionnaire I will list those where none of the answers were applicable and I had to choose something I didn't agree with.
- "None of the above" should be an answer for at least 3 or the questions I have done so far.
Please do list them.

This was a very interesting thing to do, I always enjoy taking surveys like this, thanks for thinking it up :)

All the four colours are perfectly readable in the following forum styles:
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I actually had a lot of trouble reading the blue questions on Slytherin skin so I just highlighted the whole post, but I don't know whether that was simply my poor eyesight or not. I managed, either way.

I wondered, Wimsey, if you wanted this survey like advertised on any other HP forums - with direct links to the thread as opposed to posting the whole thing again?

I wondered, Wimsey, if you wanted this survey like advertised on any other HP forums - with direct links to the thread as opposed to posting the whole thing again?Sure! I would appreciate that greatly, if the mods here and there do not mind. (Sometimes some mods at some groups get tetchy about that!)

this was a great idea! thanks for filling an hour i had nothing to do!:)

i'm just a bit confused is this a self marking type thing or is somebody going to do it for us?

Sure! I would appreciate that greatly, if the mods here and there do not mind. (Sometimes some mods at some groups get tetchy about that!)Doesn't look like the mods here would get tetchy about it. :relax:

i'm just a bit confused is this a self marking type thing or is somebody going to do it for us?I am going to run them through a program and come up with the distributions of what people expect. If the sample size is adequate, then I will break things down by some of the demographics, and by the different sites where the data were gathered.

Doesn't look like the mods here would get tetchy about it. :relax:heh, well, none that have had anything to do with it! :cool:

That being said, I have been on other sites were mods were very touchy about references to other sites. Of course, there are sites that basically are "schisms" from other sites and things like that......

OK so tomorrow when I have an hour and a large mug of coffee -- I will do the survey, it looks awesome!. Personally I could think of 101 things I want to ask about Snape...

OK so tomorrow when I have an hour and a large mug of coffee -- I will do the survey, it looks awesome!. Personally I could think of 101 things I want to ask about Snape...heh, yeah. We actually tried to tone that down, believe it or not: there just are too many interesting things about Severus! (Of course, it might all be answered by "he's just evil and a really good actor".....)

I wish you had made this in the format where you simply read the question and click in the box beside your reply. It would have been a lot easier and saved all the reading and having to note your answers and then write them all in.
This is why I have not answered them. I do not have the time. I read the first couple of questions, but when I found it was not a simple "click on the answer" quiz, I gave up.
Lazy, I know, and I'm sorry!

Lazy, I know, and I'm sorry!That is a bit beyond the capacity of the polls as they are offered here, which would be one question. I checked with the mods, but as this sucks up a lot of memory. Also, you need a more sophisticated system that usually is available to allow people to check multiple boxes at once.

So, yes, it would have been easier: but alas! sometimes easy is hard!

Well that was a marathon to complete, but I just want to say that I thought it was a very well written and comprehensive survey. All of the questions were among the most important and debated ones with good answer choices, a few of which had previously not occured to me but now do after taking it. Thanks for putting in the time and effort to do this!

There, just finished the entire quiz. I can't wait to see the results.

So how are you going to analyze this? I'm a bit curious :) I've only ever analyzed attitude questionnaires, where you have scales varying from 'disagree completely' to 'agree completely' and those are fairly easy as you can come to an average conclusive answer. But here, each option is standalone so you can't merge results. Hmm :hmm: Are you just going to have a percentage of how many people think a certain option is likely?

Thanks for putting in the time and effort to do this!Well, I'll accept that on behalf of the group! (This test has many authors and contributors, including jammi, Glawariel, IAmMoose, Queen_Beruth and a bunch of people who do not post here.)

I realize that we do not have all of the possible answers: there were only so many that we had seen offered or that we could offer ourselves!


So how are you going to analyze this? I'm a bit curious... Are you just going to have a percentage of how many people think a certain option is likely?That will be a big part of it. I'll do the summaries: I have programs for doing htis sort of thing! First and foremost will just be just what you suggested: the frequencies of responses. Second, if the sample size is big enough, then I can report on which possible responses got significantly more or fewer hits than expected given equiprobable. (I'll probably take out some of our jest answers, like stuff about the Spice Girls....)

I also will do a contrast between what the results are from an HP site vs. what they are on another fantasy site. It will be interesting to see if the "hardcore" fans have different ideas than the more casual ones. I would actually like to to this on a general fantasy/scifi board: however, the SciFi.com boards do only science fiction. I tried searching on "fantasy newsgroups" but oddly enough, I only got newsgroups featuring tawdry images of bleach blondes with excessive silicon and stuff that I am too young (or maybe too old now) to read! (I'm thinking that they are not fanfiction shipping essays with photographs :cool:.......)

And, of course, it will be interesting to compare Rowling's revelations with the responses. I am very interested in seeing whether people generally get things, or whether people tend to overthink things.

I must have rather anomalous views on Horcruxes and Bellatrix, Peter and the life debt, and Snape's role in DH, becuase there were a lot of answers where I wanted to say none of the above (but I do believe the answer will be known post DH, and have an opinoin as to what it might be). I hope I followed the instructions for what to do when my answer was not available correctly.:)

Did you put N/A? because that's what i did to a couple of the questions.

No, deep in the fine print of [b]Wimsey'[/** first post on the quiz thread there is a procedure to follow that involves picking a higher letter answer. Like if the optins are a-g, pick h.

Oh, and I realized that while my views on Snape are possibly anomalous, a popular view on question 32, Snape's ultimate fate, is not an available option. There was a long discussion on the "Hero" thread which made clear that most people there (good Snapers, that is) believe he will be important in Book 7 AND live. The only two option given for his survival involve him being completely absent or unimportant in Book 7.

Oh, well, we couldn't think of everything!

Phew! well I did it, and I think it's a super survey, and thoroughly well thought out.

A question -- have you completed it yourselves?

Post #7 on the quiz thread gives Wimsey's answers.

I must have rather anomalous views on Horcruxes and Bellatrix, Peter and the life debt, and Snape's role in DH, becuase there were a lot of answers where I wanted to say none of the above (but I do believe the answer will be known post DHOut of curiosity, what answers did you want to give for those questions?


The only two option given for his survival involve him being completely absent or unimportant in Book 7.lol... do you know, none of us ever thought of that? I certainly have not seen that one anywhere!

Still, you would have thought that we would have come up with it! We tried to include possibilities that nobody had suggested just for rounding. (None of us thought that Snape would not be relevant: however, after discovering that there were people who thought that Harry would not be pursuing Horcruxes, we decided to put this option in just about everywhere!)

Out of curiosity, what answers did you want to give for those questions?

32. Snape will be revealed to be on the ‘good side’, will have an important role in the plot, and will die at the hands of a bad guy, but not 'taking a bullet' for Harry.

33. The effect of a life debt is to manipulate the circumstances of a debtor’s life so that actions taken for other reasons end up benefiting the person who saved the debtor’s life.

Further explanation, since this is an idea I have had trouble getting across in the past:
This is how Felix Felicis and the DADA Curse seem to work, albeit with other goals (someone’s good fortune, getting rid of the DADA teacher). If Snape owed James a life debt, I believe this was illustrated by what happened to Snape with the prophecy: he was placed in a position where acting on his natural inclination to save the woman he loved involved saving James as well.

34. Peter will repay the debt when an action he takes willingly for his own reasons turns out to be very useful to Harry.

(Follows from my answer to 33).

37. Voldemort tried to spare Lily for Snape, but there was no deal.

38. I said b, but I also believe Harry will be able to see the good in someone where he does not currently see it, and where Lily saw it too. (Snape, that is). (Hence, 100. b).

48. RAB learned of the cave from his dear cousin Bella, who is not, even now ‘an old Death Eater’.

54, 55: I think Snape’s role will impact this area. Since I believe Bella was entrusted with at least one Horcrux, and that Lucius was is canon, I think the DEs are a likely source of this type of information, and they aren’t talking to Harry.

lol... do you know, none of us ever thought of that? I certainly have not seen that one anywhere!

Funny how different various segments of fandom are. ;) My opinion that he's dead as a doornail makes me the exception where I post most frequently.

Thank you for posting such an interesting test. I can see that your group worked very hard on it. I plan to work on it when I have more time.

Have you considered whether the age of the reader would have an effect on their answers? I would be curious to know if there were trends in certain age groups.

32. Snape will be revealed to be on the ‘good side’, will have an important role in the plot, and will die at the hands of a bad guy, but not 'taking a bullet' for Harry.I have basically added that.

37. Voldemort tried to spare Lily for Snape, but there was no deal.That would strike me as a semantic difference. If Voldemort did it for Snape, then it was a deal for Snape, whether Snape knew it or not. (If that turns out to be the case, then I would not hesitate in scoring Rowling's answer with that response.)

In general, my advice is always to think of the response you want, and then look for the answer that is closest to this. I have literally seen students sit for minutes unwilling to circle/x/mark an answer on a multiple choice test because of small differences between the statement and the answer that they memorized: even when none of the other answers are close to that! (They always claim that they thought I was trying to "trick" them; when told this, I would always laugh and say "I cannot be bothered to learn your name: why on Earth would I bother to trick you?")

Now, this is a little different: but, again, I would go for what you generally expect and not get too hung up on the specifics!


Funny how different various segments of fandom are. ;) My opinion that he's dead as a doornail makes me the exception where I post most frequently.Interesting. Where this survey originated, nobody thinks that Snape will live, which is why we omitted it. The question has been, how will he die? Correspondingly, our alternative responses were how he would die. Our two "he lives" options were slightly tongue-in-cheek!

Have you considered whether the age of the reader would have an effect on their answers? I would be curious to know if there were trends in certain age groups.The group where this originated actually forbids asking of ages, and strongly discourages minors from divulging them. There are other groups like that, so in deference to them we omited that. However, I do agree with you: it would be cool to have that breakdown.

Interesting. Where this survey originated, nobody thinks that Snape will live, which is why we omitted it. The question has been, how will he die? Correspondingly, our alternative responses were how he would die. Our two "he lives" options were slightly tongue-in-cheek!

Literature-wise, I don't think it would a very good story if Snape lives. The way his character's drawn up, he's bound to die saving the good side. But then, that's just probably how I see it.

I like to compliment all of you on this survey. It was fun.

Having said that I have used the other option a few times. For the record:
N 10. Voldemort’s having Harry’s blood will play a part why Voldemort looked like he did before the potion. That is important according to JKR. Harry’s blood helped him with his body so I think Harry can actually do something to Voldemort using this.

N21 & 32 Snape’s loyalties. If you belief in a debt between Snape and Harry and that Snape murdered Dumbledore you have Snape being “loyal” to Harry and Voldemort but not to Dumbledore. This I cannot express in the survey. And though it seems a strange theory these things are told and shown to us. This will have different consequences for Snape as well.

N34 this is just about how a life debt plays. Since I believe that it is tied in with the Christian concept of grace and mercy I cannot give an answer. Sure, Peter will do something but the real solution of a life debt is not among the possible answers.

N69 Hermione is excellent with spells, not just helping with knowledge from books. Like her overcoming devil’s snare in PS. I missed that one.

N82 This is selling Neville short. He can play an important part without joining the trio or lamely killing Bella.

Doesn't look like the mods here would get tetchy about it. :relax:
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Literature-wise, I don't think it would a very good story if Snape lives. The way his character's drawn up, he's bound to die saving the good side. But then, that's just probably how I see it.I think that is the way we saw it. Of course, many of us at the other group are expecting an out-and-out blood bath. However, we did consciously try to include other views, no matter what we thought. It simply never occurred to us that Snape would join the good guys and live: our debate has been one excruciating angst causing death vs. another!


N 10. Voldemort’s having Harry’s blood will play a part why Voldemort looked like he did before the potion. That is important according to JKR.I do not recall Rowling making that statement. Moreover, I also am not sure what you mean: Voldemort looked like he did prior to the potion with Harry's blood because of another potion that he had Pettigrew make, at least according to Voldemort. Afterwards, Voldemort got his body back.

At any rate, it did not occur to us that this was a possible answer. This actually was a tough question for us. Rowling has dropped one very strong hint that the blood would matter. However, for most of the other questions, there were literary foreshadowings of possible solutions and/or examples of similar things. In this case, we were hard pressed to come up with any. In the end, we really just have "Will Harry's blood be important," which is extremely lame, and a few "maybe" solutions that are almost pure fan-fiction in the sense that we cannot point to the canon and say "here is a very similar example."

Ideally, Hallows will be Rowling placing 2-3 domino chips, and then kicking then to have everything else fall into place. That is, there will not be too much "new" introduced. However, she does have to hold back one or two things: the final pieces the make the domino chain completely connect, so to speak. This could well be one of those, and it could well be that this will be one of things where we simply do not have a clue. Still, how could we not ask this question!?!?!


N21 & 32 Snape’s loyalties. If you belief in a debt between Snape and HarryAh, we never considered a debt between Snape and Harry. There had been discussion about a life-debt between James and Snape and we included that as an option. However, the idea that Snape has a debt to Harry never came up. (The idea of a somewhat "inherited" debt was what we had.) Them's the breaks: sorting can occur only on the variation that appears!

Since I believe that it is tied in with the Christian concept of grace and mercy I cannot give an answer. Sure, Peter will do something but the real solution of a life debt is not among the possible answers.Well, the real solution might not be among them. Moreover, we must keep in mind that Rowling's idea of a Christian concept of mercy and grace will not be the same as many other Christians! A liberal Episcopalian view of anything is often (if not usually!) different from that a conservative Baptist as the theologies espoused by Rowling's branch of Christianity (and which she has described herself as sometimes at odds with) and some others are very different. So, what is the view of mercy and grace from someone like Rowling? And are these even tied to the fulfilling of a life-debt? Those would affect which answer you would choose, and that is what we tried to consider when putting together the list of options.

Now, if there is a particular way that one thinks that the life-debt might proceed, then that was what we were trying to find. Our options were limited, and some people felt that the question already had been answered simply because of the actions of the one character with a known life debt. However, we also realized that others believe that this character's actions are exceptional, so we allowed for stricter and laxer answers.

(I will also add that not all of us agreed 100% on all of the questions: personally, I would not have included it as I think that Rowling has given us the answer already; other's disagreed and democracy wins again. Huzzah! :cool:)

N69 Hermione is excellent with spells, not just helping with knowledge from books. Like her overcoming devil’s snare in PS. I missed that one.Hermione got that knowledge of how to overcome Devil's Snare from a book. However, it was Ron who told her to use a spell: Hermione blanked and wanted wood to start a fire! Even then, it seemed that it was one of the fire spells that she'd learned from her extracurricular readings.

There are quite a few cases where Hermione knows of extra spells because of her extra-curricular readings. For example, she pulled out the Protean Charm because she had been doing extra reading. So, any sort of knowledge would qualify: spells, facts, Teen Magazine quizes, Sudoko solutions...

N82 This is selling Neville short. He can play an important part without joining the trio or lamely killing Bella.He can kill Bellatrix spectacularly, too!

Seriously, we tried to put forward answers for which we felt that there was some foreshadowing, or for which we thought that Rowling had given a character some skill or history that could come to literary fruition (the Chekovian gun). Clearly we could not get everything. However, there just was not much left for Neville, although it does occur to me that his herbology skills could come in handy.

Hagrid was even worse. We tried really hard to come up with questions for him, but we ran into a wall. Poor Hagrid has gone from a major secondary character to basically being a minor tertiary one!

In contrast, we had to reign ourselves in with Snape: at one point, we had more Snape questions than Harry or Voldemort questions!

In some ways a "fill in the blank" would have been best. However, that simply was not practical! (I tried that last time, and in the end, I just skimmed answers and then categorized them!)

Nor would we have too many objections at HPfGU.:tu: Would prefer if placed on OT Chatter with a small introduction and link. Can advise group through me at gav _ fiji @ yahoo . com for queries.

Marvin ElfCan I owl you? My filters often eat yahoo.com emails!


EDIT: Does anybody know of a decent general fantasy board where this could be posted? SciFi's board is literally all SciFi: Harry Potter comes up in the Dr. Who and Lost discussions, but those would not be appropriate.

It would be fascinating to compare answers here with answers among much more casual readers. OWL me!

I do not recall Rowling making that statement. Moreover, I also am not sure what you mean: Voldemort looked like he did prior to the potion with Harry's blood because of another potion that he had Pettigrew make, at least according to Voldemort. Afterwards, Voldemort got his body back.

JKR in the mugglenet interview:
The one that I wondered whether I was going to be able to get past the editors was the physical condition of Voldemort before he went into the cauldron, do you remember? He was kind of fetal. I felt an almost visceral distaste for what I had conjured up, but there's a reason it was in there and you will see that.
I just link the gleam of triumph to this statement. But anyway there is more to how Voldemort was before his resurrection according to JKR. A gun still needed to be fired.

JKR in the mugglenet interview:
The one that I wondered whether I was going to be able to get past the editors was the physical condition of Voldemort before he went into the cauldron, do you remember? He was kind of fetal. I felt an almost visceral distaste for what I had conjured up, but there's a reason it was in there and you will see that.
I just link the gleam of triumph to this statement. But anyway there is more to how Voldemort was before his resurrection according to JKR. A gun still needed to be fired.We missed that one. Still, it's tough to link that in with any of the responses in a coherent way, and we obviously could not really make a question of it.

I would not call it a unfired gun, at any rate: Babymort got us from Vapourmort back to Voldemort, so it served its purpose. More importantly, Babymort allowed Rowling to have Voldemort murder someone before acquiring Harry's blood and returning to classic Voldemort. Whether this murder amounted to a Horcrux is a completely separate issue: it made it possible. Thus, Babymort was important: without that, we could not have Dumbledore's Naginicrux hypothesis AND Dumbledore's gleam!

This does not mean that Babymort won't be fired again somehow: by the same token, Rowling might fire the Lily's eyes gun again. However, if she does not, then we could not say: "hey, what was the point of Babymort???" It already had one! That is all Chekov wanted: if you focus on something, then make it count for something in the plot or in the story (or both!). (Well, he wanted it in other peoples stuff: he violated the principle pretty badly himself sometimes!)

That is the other limitation here: if we started asking about all of the potential second firings, then we'd be asking questions forever! Obviously, we had to bend on the Lily's eyes issue: some people feel that it really was not fired in Prince. (I disagree, but our task was to list what we knew people suspected, not what we thought was right!) Also, I think that were spending so much effort trying to find good questions that did not involve Harry, Voldemort or Snape that we overlooked things like this: had we been scraping for Harry and Voldemort questions, then maybe we would have thought of this one.

Still, it will be interesting to see if Babymort does come up, or how Rowling might do it. Unless she resorts to the dreaded villains monologue, it is tough to see how it could arise naturally! Perhaps Harry will learn something about Horcruxes and their full implications that will tacitly explain what Babymort was.


A belated question along these lines was about Snape's Boggart and Patronus. Rowling would not say what they were. However, those were tough to form as questions. Also, it is quite possible (if not probable) that we will not see Snape near a Boggart or a Patronus: it is just that if Rowling told us that Snape's Boggart was (say) Lily Evans dead, then she would have answered several of the questions on this survey! Obviously, she did not want to do that.

But if you`re changing the survey now that many have answered the questions wouldn`t the results tampered? And the same is true for the completion belatedly of "none of the aboves" in the survey.
I´m not trying to put the survey down, I think it is a great idea, but the analysis would be a bit difficult.

(I'll probably take out some of our jest answers, like stuff about the Spice Girls....)

Awwww..I can see why you would do that, but still, that was a funny answer :)

But if you`re changing the survey now that many have answered the questions wouldn`t the results tampered? And the same is true for the completion belatedly of "none of the aboves" in the survey.The results would be affected only if I changed the order of the question or those spots had been used for answers already!

Having gone through existing responses, it won't affect things. Alas! Those will be it for the "tweaks."

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The results would be affected only if I changed the order of the question or those spots had been used for answers already!

Having gone through existing responses, it won't affect things. Alas! Those will be it for the "tweaks."

But people that answered the questions before you added that option choose answers they`re not fully convinced because of the lack of the option. Therefore I think it affects the results.

But people that answered the questions before you added that option choose answers they`re not fully convinced because of the lack of the option. Therefore I think it affects the results.One response was added because it was clear that was what a couple of people meant, and it was the remaining alternative. (We had all of the other options). So, that is what people meant by "other."

The second was tossed in late also at request when someone said that is what they meant by "other." That was the first "other" offered. Anyway, having gone through the first 50 grades, neither is having an impact. As I know when the two extra responses were offere, it will be easy to assess whether they affected outcomes in prior answers! (Let's just say that distributions could be my middle name!)

May I make a suggestion?

The question about the unintentional foreshawdowing in the PoA movie, I think you should also include the scene in which Harry sees Sirius in the crystal ball. I've always thought that that might have something to do with the two-way mirror and Harry possibly being able to talk to Sirius again.

The question about the unintentional foreshawdowing in the PoA movie, I think you should also include the scene in which Harry sees Sirius in the crystal ball. I've always thought that that might have something to do with the two-way mirror and Harry possibly being able to talk to Sirius again.Hmmm, we never heard that one. Still, I do not think that qualifies as proper foreshadowing: ideally, you want the scene to be ironic. For example, if Harry sacrifices himself the way that his parents did, then Lupin's conversation with Harry on the bridge will have foreshadowed it: just as Lupin predicted, Harry acted like his parents. Of course, Lupin was not predicting that particular act: but good foreshadowing is ironic in that the incident has a perfectly good meaning at the time, and then later comes to take a new meaning.

In the books, for example, Harry hopes that Snape's tenure as DADA prof. ends in a death. It does: but that was not what Harry meant at the time! It foreshadowed Snape's tenure ending in a murder, though. Similarly, in Order, Black comments that he doubts that he'll be accepting any apologies from the Ministry once Fudge figures out how wrong he is. Well, Sirius was right: but not in the way that he intended!

A more abstract example is the chess game in Stone: there, the chessmaster sacrifices himself so that Harry can go forward. In Prince, we (probably) saw the same thing: the chessmaster sacrificed himself so that Harry can go forward.

So, for the most part, we assumed that Rowling was sticking to a strict definition of foreshadowing. That is why we did not count things like the line about the astronomy tower: there simply is no way to look at that and say: "it told us that Dumbledore was going to fall off the tower." In all the other cases, it either told us or pre-enacted for us.

When are we likely to get the results for this test? Only after DH comes out?

Ummmm, yeah, i should think so.

Ummmm, yeah, i should think so.I'll put out a "conclusive" summary then.

However, once we get 100 here, then I'll post a summary. Every time we get 100, I'll post another summary. We are pretty close.

The Leaky Cauldron has constructed a similar survey, although it is simplified so that you can just click buttons. (This means that you can give only one answer, however.)

Still, they seem to be asking a lot of questions for which my answer was: "who cares?" or "what does this have to do with anything???" Death Eater Headquarters? Griphook? :no:

Obviously, their priorities and ours were a bit different! :cool:

I'll put out a "conclusive" summary then.

However, once we get 100 here, then I'll post a summary. Every time we get 100, I'll post another summary. We are pretty close.


Only 9 to go I think! I'm glad you're doing a summary soon because I'm really interested to know how my views fit in with the general opinion.

The Leaky Cauldron has constructed a similar survey, although it is simplified so that you can just click buttons. (This means that you can give only one answer, however.)

Still, they seem to be asking a lot of questions for which my answer was: "who cares?" or "what does this have to do with anything???" Death Eater Headquarters? Griphook? :no:

Obviously, their priorities and ours were a bit different! :cool:I took their test. A lot of it was pure guesswork or inconsequential stuff. Your quiz is much better, since yes or no doesn't work for so many things.

It probally helps as well that we're not a harry potter site, so we're not concerned about the minor details that will never come up or will be answered. We like to look at the whole picture.

These questions missed in my opinion an important possibility to answer, as listet beneath:
2 we do know already
5 that means that none of them could live in peace not that you can survive without living
43 others: Dumbledores letter he left with Baby Harry
48 others: bellatrix knew something
50 others: to tell that Dumbledore once defeated a Dark Lord, his story is completed
56 others: a knife we have seen before
66 others: meet Voldemort for the final battle
76 others: the Ministry don`t know
82 b but finish not in the meaning of kill her
90 others: continued to live the same way but we will see her again
98 others: learn about the Wizarding World, but the Dursleys doesn`t become popular and there will be terrorism in the Muggle world as reflection of the Wizard War.
99 b/h or the instruments to destroy a Horcrux
100 e the stone circle

I took their test. A lot of it was pure guesswork or inconsequential stuff. Your quiz is much better, since yes or no doesn't work for so many things.Well, thanks! I think that jammi has it right: those people are much more in to Harry Potter than we are, and they are worried about much finer details.

That being said, when I offered to post this survey there, I did get drawn into a discussion about Chekovian guns with some of them. What was interesting is that many of them did not buy my suggestiong that Rowling's writing was very Chekovian because they viewed so many of the guns as probable red herrings: but they considered everything introduced to be a possible gun: i.e., not just the rifle, but the mounting, the wallpaper, the wainscotting, etc....

Annett: most of your alternative answers already are offered.

These questions missed in my opinion an important possibility to answer, as listet beneath:
2 we do know alreadyEr, no, we don't: it would not be a question otherwise!

5 that means that none of them could live in peace not that you can survive without livingThat is answer a.

43 others: Dumbledores letter he left with Baby HarryRowling said that there were letters before.

48 others: bellatrix knew somethingThat is a), as Bellatrix is an older Death Eater.

50 others: to tell that Dumbledore once defeated a Dark Lord, his story is completedThat is a): backstory for Dumbledore.

56 others: a knife we have seen beforeWhat knife?

66 others: meet Voldemort for the final battleThat would be later: this necessarily refers to the initial journey that Harry plans at the end of Prince. As Harry is not planning to go there for the final battle, it cannot refer to that. However, we do offer it as an option for where that might take place: but that is a completely separate question.

76 others: the Ministry don`t knowThe Ministry does know that Harry & Dumbledore were up to something: Scrimgeour tells Harry that at the end of Prince.

82 b but finish not in the meaning of kill herHowever you intend "finish off" is fine.

90 others: continued to live the same way but we will see her againRowling already let slip that she has something nasty in store for Dolores.

98 others: learn about the Wizarding World, but the Dursleys doesn`t become popular and there will be terrorism in the Muggle world as reflection of the Wizard War.eh, close enough (we got a bit cheeky with some of the questions that we deemed a little silly!).

99 b/h or the instruments to destroy a HorcruxHmmm, nobody suggested this, so it would be "j". Also, this would be an utterly novel (and incorrect) use of the word "Hallows": we stuck to possibilities that would use the word correctly or popular fan theories of which we were aware (many of which use the word incorrectly!)

100 e the stone circleEr, what stone circle?

Thanks for you`re detailed answers, but we don`t agree at some points:



2 we do know alreadyEr, no, we don't: it would not be a question otherwise!Yes we do. Dumbledore told Harry in CoS: "Unless I`m much mistaken, he transferredsome of his own powers to you the night he gave you that scar."

5 that means that none of them could live in peace not that you can survive without living
That is answer a.If I`m not much mistaken, the question suggests that one of them can survive without living. And my answer is devinitly not a.

43 others: Dumbledores letter he left with Baby HarryRowling said that there were letters before. If I remember right, she said that there were a letter before the one in OotP. And there was one, the one on Halloween 1981. Please insert the exact quote.

48 others: bellatrix knew somethingThat is a), as Bellatrix is an older Death Eater. But there is a difference between telling somebody something or overhear/or come to a conclusion as a result something a member of your family said.

50 others: to tell that Dumbledore once defeated a Dark Lord, his story is completed
That is a): backstory for Dumbledore.Sorry, but it`s not. Answer a is future, but I don`t think we will hear from Grindelwald again. He`s not important for the story anymore because in my opinion the only reason why Grindelwald was mentioned was a hint that Dumbledore once defeated a Dark Lord. The question asks about his importance in the future, I doubt it.

56 others: a knife we have seen before
What knife?There were two knifes mentioned. One was the knife Sirius gave Harry as a present in OotP, the other was used by Wormtail at the graveyard in GoF.

66 others: meet Voldemort for the final battle
That would be later: this necessarily refers to the initial journey that Harry plans at the end of Prince. As Harry is not planning to go there for the final battle, it cannot refer to that. However, we do offer it as an option for where that might take place: but that is a completely separate question. In my opinion Harry would not go to Godric`s Hollow as he planned at the end of HBP. He also planned to not going back to scool and to Grimmauld Place and we will see that his plans will change. From the back of the covers of DH we know that Harry will not leave Privet Drive alone or with Ron and Hermione as they planned, but that there will be the Order to save him. Therefore I think he will be guarded by the Order during his holidays and I can`t see the Order let him go to Godrics Hollow.

76 others: the Ministry don`t know
The Ministry does know that Harry & Dumbledore were up to something: Scrimgeour tells Harry that at the end of Prince.Yes the Ministry does know that they were up to something, but they don`t know what it was. They have a generall idea that Harry is important for the fight against Voldemort, but they don`t know about the prophecy. You could say that Dumbledore filled Fudge in at the half of an hour after the battle in the Ministry, but why should he? The less know about the Prophecy, the better.

82 b but finish not in the meaning of kill her
However you intend "finish off" is fine.than I`m fine with b, because I can`t see neither Harry nor Neville commit a murder.

90 others: continued to live the same way but we will see her againRowling already let slip that she has something nasty in store for Dolores.There we agree, but I can`t see an answer for that.

98 others: learn about the Wizarding World, but the Dursleys doesn`t become popular and there will be terrorism in the Muggle world as reflection of the Wizard War.
eh, close enough (we got a bit cheeky with some of the questions that we deemed a little silly!).close enough for you maybe :lol: , but I can`t live with the idea that the Durleys become popular, it`s horrible.

100 e the stone circle
Er, what stone circle?In the PoA movie Hermione knocked Draco in a stone circle (like Stonehenge).

I think there was much work involved to make this survey, from my own experiences I know how difficult it is to include all possible answers.

May I ask where this survey is?? I would like to take it.

May I ask where this survey is?? I would like to take it.Right here! (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=102356)

Yes we do. Dumbledore told Harry in CoS: "Unless I`m much mistaken, he transferredsome of his own powers to you the night he gave you that scar."Right. So, what is it? There is a "bit" of Voldemort in Harry. What is it? "Powers" do not seem to be a separate entity in Potterverse; so, what is the vehicle delivering these powers? If we do learn that powers are somehow separate from other things, then this will be something new that is clarified in Hallows.

If I`m not much mistaken, the question suggests that one of them can survive without living. And my answer is devinitly not a.Yes, this is the paradox of the Prophecy: neither can live while the other survives. So, Harry and Voldemort currently are both surviving but not living. So, what does "living" mean? The Prophecy says that Harry currently is not living: he is only surviving. So, this means Rowling is not using "living" as a synomym of "surviving": what does she mean it represent?

If I remember right, she said that there were a letter before the one in OotP. And there was one, the one on Halloween 1981. Please insert the exact quote.On her site, Rowling said that "remember my last" means that there were communications prior to the letter: that is why it was the last.

But there is a difference between telling somebody something or overhear/or come to a conclusion as a result something a member of your family said.Not insofar as this is concerned. How RAB heard anything from any older DE is all the same: all are special cases of this answer. As there are so many specific ways that many questions could be answered, we asked only for general responses. We want to see if people are on the right track: that is, if the real answer is "French vanillla cherry pie," then how many people said "pastry" rather than "pasta."


Sorry, but it`s not. Answer a is future, but I don`t think we will hear from Grindelwald again. He`s not important for the story anymore because in my opinion the only reason why Grindelwald was mentioned was a hint that Dumbledore once defeated a Dark Lord. The question asks about his importance in the future, I doubt it.As I asked the question, no it isn't. If Grindelwald is not mentioned, then we will learn that Rowling included it only as backstory.

There were two knifes mentioned. One was the knife Sirius gave Harry as a present in OotP, the other was used by Wormtail at the graveyard in GoF.Neither of these have been suggested as candidates for Horcruxes. We restricted ourselves to suggested hypotheses.

In my opinion Harry would not go to Godric`s Hollow as he planned at the end of HBP.The question is about Harry's planned trip. Your response now is e). (I think that you are getting to hung up on specifics, and thinking that specific versions of the general make it difference: if we say: "pie," or even "pastry," then "cherry pie" is a specfic version of that.

Yes the Ministry does know that they were up to something, but they don`t know what it was.Again, that is encompassed by answer d).

than I`m fine with b, because I can`t see neither Harry nor Neville commit a murder.If Neville kills Bellatrix, then it will not be murder: murder is a particular type of homicide. Killing someone in battle is not that type of homicide. Harry will never murder, but he probably will kill.

There we agree, but I can`t see an answer for that.errr, right: we have several options from which you can choose!

close enough for you maybe :lol: , but I can`t live with the idea that the Durleys become popular, it`s horrible. err, they probably are very popular among Muggles. People like them always are.

In the PoA movie Hermione knocked Draco in a stone circle (like Stonehenge).How is that foreshadowing? Foreshadowing has to seem to mean one thing at the time, but come to represent something else later.

For example, when Harry says that he hopes that Snape's tenure at DADA prof. ends in death, this is foreshadowing. (It does, but not like Harry intended.) When Sirius says that he won't be accepting apologies form the ministry, this is forshadowing. (It is true, but not like he intended.)

So, how will Hermione punching Draco in a stone circle take on a different meaning later?

I think there was much work involved to make this survey, from my own experiences I know how difficult it is to include all possible answers.Yes, "impossible" is a special case of "difficult!"

When are the results?

It`d be so much easier to answer if I could actually see the damn questions without straining all life from my retinas.

It`d be so much easier to answer if I could actually see the damn questions without straining all life from my retinas.You can print the questions out then use a program like Word to answer the questions. Word can automatically number the answers in the format that Wimsey requested. Then you cut and paste the answers into a reply. It is a lot easier, and safer, than doing it all online.

Word can automatically number the answers in the format that Wimsey requested.

It really can? How? It took me quite a while to answer all of those questions when I took the test, but I'd like to know if there was a faster way to it. :D

When are the results?I have posted the first summary, for the first 33 questions. Unfortunately, one cannot make multiple posts here, so I cannot post the next two pages until other people post!

I have posted the first summary, for the first 33 questions. Unfortunately, one cannot make multiple posts here, so I cannot post the next two pages until other people post!

What happened to the first 33 questions? Post #107 is blank with an edit from you on the bottom.

What happened to the first 33 questions? Post #107 is blank with an edit from you on the bottom.That is fixed. There should be 25 questions per post now.

The blue shows common responses (40%+) This usually means that significantly more people chose this response than expected if people just answered randomly. (This is not necessarily the case when people could put in multiple answers, however.)


KEEP VOTING!


The early trends: Snape had a thing for Lily and is working for the good guys;
"There's nothing you can do that can't be done....";
Hogwarts shoudl be called Horcruxwarts;
RAB is Regulus;
SPEW is useless but arithmancy isn't;
What the heck is a hallow?

Some interesting inconsistencies: More people think that Harry's scar is handy for being a Horcrux than think that the bit of Voldemort in Harry is a piece of soul;
1 more people thought tha Ron would marry Hermione than thought that Hermione would marry Ron!

I just took the quiz--or I just posted my answers, rather. I actually printed it out and circled my answers. It took quite a while, which was good because it really made me think about things I hadn't considered before. As I was circling, I decided to write some of my reasoning for my answers--I thought it would be funny to look at after reading DH to see how close or off I was!

I just took the quiz--or I just posted my answers, rather. I actually printed it out and circled my answers. It took quite a while, which was good because it really made me think about things I hadn't considered before. As I was circling, I decided to write some of my reasoning for my answers--I thought it would be funny to look at after reading DH to see how close or off I was!
That's a good idea, free. I think I might do the same thing. I took it awhile ago and I don't even remember what I chose. It'll be fun to compare afterward :agree:

The early trends:
Snape had a thing for Lily and is working for the good guys;

I was highly comforted to see that the majority chose a Snape/Lily connection.. with so many people thinking the same, it's bound to be right!

The Snape/Lily connection is "bound to be right"? -- who are you kidding -- this is JKR we are talking about! We know she is devious -- that's why we love her ...

That's a good idea, free. I think I might do the same thing. I took it awhile ago and I don't even remember what I chose. It'll be fun to compare afterward :agree:

We do something similar on another forum - kind of like a time capsule. I apparently thought Snape and Cho would die in HBP :rolleyes: And having just reread my answers here, I'm facepalming, since I've changed my mind on so many of them since... oh dear. Sorry, Wimsey :blush: I'll have to live with it, I guess. And at least my death list is still accurate.

We did at one point have a question on whether she just sits the book out -

Oh wow, I hope not.

I just took the quiz--or I just posted my answers, rather. I actually printed it out and circled my answers. It took quite a while, which was good because it really made me think about things I hadn't considered before. As I was circling, I decided to write some of my reasoning for my answers--I thought it would be funny to look at after reading DH to see how close or off I was!After DH, I will post the final predictions, and then check off what JKR provided. I am sure that it will provide all sorts of debate, though. Last time, we checked off that Dumbledore did, in fact, die, as many peple predicted. However, a couple of people informed us that we were wrong, that Dumbledore clearly was still alive.

I expect that the same thing will happen here. Suppose (just for the example, and NOT to discuss the actual issue), Harry is convinced in the end that Snape did all of this for Lily. Suppose further that, like a sucker, I buy it and mark that off for JKR's answer. I can guarantee that there will be many people informing me that Harry was duped!

(This being said, I promise to mark JKR's "answers" based on what the books give: I will not look for dodges if they contradict what I expected.)

The Snape/Lily connection is "bound to be right"? -- who are you kidding -- this is JKR we are talking about! We know she is devious -- that's why we love her ...Actually, Rowling is devious by being simple but not obvious. That is, when we learn the truth, we find that one or two things caused seven or eight things, when it had looked like all seven or eight had their own causes.

This would be another example.

Oh wow, I hope not.We tried to offer all the possibilities of which we could think. I would be surprised if this happened, but several book reviewers noted that many things in Prince were written as if in farewell, with Luna being one of them.

It will be interesting to see if any of the answers that had a huge majority of votes, like over 60 %, turn out to be wrong. I also wonder how close you need to come to mark an answer correct. For example, for the question, what is Snape's main motivation, answer a. Lily - is pretty vague. It doesn't say he loved her, liked her, she paid him a lot of money, he hated her. It is pretty open ended. So, it has a good chance of being right.

Keep them coming!

One reminder: do not post comments here! Now, I know that you want to make them. So, how to do this?

Here are the examples from my answers (with links corrected):
10. a (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?p=4401774#post4401774)
47. d (http://www.cosforums.com/showpost.php?p=4412961&postcount=1117)

(In plain English, #10 has left bracket ("["), then url=http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?p=4401774#post4401774", then right bracket ("]"), then "a" then [/url].)

In the first case, I fit my answer into the closest available one. The link is to the posting in the germane thread that provides my explanation. In the second case, it is an "other": the link again is to the posting in the germane thread that provides my explanation.

So, history can record that you got it right, and anyone perusing this thread can see what you thought.

What about if there is a theory you strongly agree with that wasn't even listed as one of the options? In those (few) cases, I picked the best on the list but have a different theory. Can I edit it to link to where the alternative theory is presented? Although, that does nothing for the accuracy of the results since I picked a couple answers I didn't agree with wholeheartedly.By all means, do that.

We tried to include all of the well known hypotheses. Moreover, a lot of the ones that people have suggested as being not on the list really are: our alternative answers are deliberately general in order to accommodate things. For example, Bellatrix is an older Death Eater relative to Regulus Black, etc.

The only hypotheses that we "deliberately" excluded were those debunked by JKR and/or those that are so irrelevant that they did not predict an answer for one of the big questions. That is, ideas that raise a single question out of the blue (as opposed to arising naturally in the books) and then provide a simple yes/no answer were not included.

It will be interesting to see if any of the answers that had a huge majority of votes, like over 60 %, turn out to be wrong. I also wonder how close you need to come to mark an answer correct. For example, for the question, what is Snape's main motivation, answer a. Lily - is pretty vague. It doesn't say he loved her, liked her, she paid him a lot of money, he hated her. It is pretty open ended. So, it has a good chance of being right.If JKR has done her job properly, then the plurality (if not the majority) of the readers will have a good idea of what is to come.

There will be one major exception, I expect: "wishful thinking." There are a lot of things that could happen that many readers do not want to see happen. For example, it is almost certainly true that fewer people believe Harry is going to die than think that Harry is going to die. Few of us want Harry to die, after all, and people therefore will find reasons to convince themselves that it will not happen.

I also wonder how close you need to come to mark an answer correct. For example, for the question, what is Snape's main motivation, answer a. Lily - is pretty vague. It doesn't say he loved her, liked her, she paid him a lot of money, he hated her. It is pretty open ended. So, it has a good chance of being right.Yes and no. First, the same could be said of many of the responses for the same question. Second, even though we did not specify the "why" involving Lily, well, nobody has suggested financial debts!

One other very common human trait is to split hairs. This has come up a few times earlier when people have said: "you left out X, Y and Z" when all of them were particular cases of one of the answers we provided. Now, if the answer is "cherry pie," then "apple pie" does not match it. However, if the answer is "pie," then both "cherry pie" and "apple pie" do match "pie." Because the alternatives are things like "casserole," "pasta," etc., we really are looking just for general food groups. Ditto for this: it would have been impossible to write out all of the exact options! So, we aimed for "pie" or even "dessert" whenever possible.

The first 51 questions seem to have numbered responses instead of lettered. Am I missing something?

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The first 51 questions seem to have numbered responses instead of lettered. Am I missing something???? They all are lettered on my screen.

What browser are you using?

??? They all are lettered on my screen.

What browser are you using?

Firefox, but I copy/pasted them into a text file so I can do the answers then paste it into my post.

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4. "...but he will have power the Dark Lord knows not...."; the power of love is:

to bring back key dead characters (Dumbledore, Sirius, James, Lily, Qui-Gon, etc.) at key moments.
a love version of Avada Kedavra.
to let Harry take advantage of the "love" room in a way that Voldemort cannot.
to prevent Voldemort from using legilimency on Harry in some key moments (thus closing Harry's mind).
some other specific act of love-powered magic.
not any specific magical act, but Harry's ability to love will generate important active and psychological support in key moments &/ allow him to make the choices necessary to beat Voldemort, whereas Voldemort's inability to love has the opposite results; after all, love is all you need (love is all you need).
not relevant to the plot or story, but a good source of some fanfic worthy snogging scenes geared towards taking advantage of Dan Radcliffe's Equus role.
not relevant at all: Dumbledore's interpretation of the prophecy (or the prophecy itself) was wrong.

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What's a "love room"? :huh: :lol:

What's a "love room"?
In OotP when Harry et. al. were in the Department of Mysteries they spend some time in the circular room trying to find the correct room to lead them through to the Hall of Prophecy, and one of the doors doesn't open. Later Dumbledore talks about the room in the Department of Mysteries that is kept locked at all times, blah blah, and the 'force' within it is love. So the 'love room'!

Sorry my explanation is so long winded.

I did this quiz a few days ago and really enjoyed it! However there's one question where, due to the way it's phrased, I was concerned I might have given a contradictory answer:

12. Voldemort "finally gets the legroom for which he has been aching during all those years in exile," which means : [MARK ALL THAT APPLY, BUT DO NOT CONTRADICT YOURSELF!

1. a relentless pursuit of Harry.
2. outright attempts to overthrow the Ministry of Magic.
3. outright attempts to takeover at Hogwarts
4. just general mayhem, death, etc.
5. establishing his own home base rather than skulking in the shadows.
6. nothing really, it is just nice to have legs again.
7. a several city tour as his alter-ego, David Bowie ("the return of the thin white Duke....").

Huh, mine just came out as numbers too.

Anyway, I think in 7 there will be at least 1 (getting Harry) and 4 (general mayhem). However 4 says 'just general mayhem'. Will my answer be counted as contradictory if I also put something else?

What's a "love room"? :huh: :lol:The Dept. of Mysteries room that melted Harry's knife. Dumbledore explains that this room is kept off-limits to everyone because love is such a potent power.

Anyway, I think in 7 there will be at least 1 (getting Harry) and 4 (general mayhem). However 4 says 'just general mayhem'. Will my answer be counted as contradictory if I also put something else?No, that will not be considered contradictory! I have a code for catching contradictory answers, and that is not on it.

(Oh, and I'm glad that you liked it: I'll pass that along to the other people who created it!)

In OotP when Harry et. al. were in the Department of Mysteries they spend some time in the circular room trying to find the correct room to lead them through to the Hall of Prophecy, and one of the doors doesn't open. Later Dumbledore talks about the room in the Department of Mysteries that is kept locked at all times, blah blah, and the 'force' within it is love. So the 'love room'!

The Dept. of Mysteries room that melted Harry's knife. Dumbledore explains that this room is kept off-limits to everyone because love is such a potent power.

Thanks guys! :D

I'll try again before then (6/10). Maybe if I copy/paste into a word page, then I won't get the nbrs.

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I'll try again before then (6/10). Maybe if I copy/paste into a word page, then I won't get the nbrs.

TTFNIf you really get stuck, then post here: I will modify the code to translate numbers into letters.

Oh, and the point of that reply was.... I want to close this down on June 10th. The book has gone to press, and details are bound to start leaking. All those cute little anti-spoiler
signatures can be neatly circumvented through something like this.

I will ask the mods to put the answers into the historical archives (so that some people can verify their "I had it right!" claims on 22 July), and then post the final results on a separate thread here. People can discuss the distributions then. I'll also post the distributions gathered elsewhere. The compare and contrast already is interesting: for example, whereas it seems about 40% of the people here think that Harry will return as as student, 0% of respondants at a Tolkien site do.

8. Harry's glasses " are the clue to his vulnerability", which means that:
they are somehow connected to Lily's eyes.
they make him more susceptible to legilimancy.
they make him less susceptible to legilimancy.
they interfere with Harry seeing things for what they really are sometimes.
when Voldemort looks through them, he just sees a blur!
JKR was making allusions a la Clark Kent and Superman, not about superpowers! (Ergo, it won't be clarified further.)

I don't think the answer is any of the above. I just figured all JK meant by her statement(s) was that she wanted Harry to be recognized as a flawed character. :hmm:

Ah, I have another question.

Number ten doesn't seem to have an "I don't know" answer so...yeah... :hmm:

I don't think the answer is any of the above. I just figured all JK meant by her statement(s) was that she wanted Harry to be recognized as a flawed character. That is the Clark Kent answer. The glasses humanize the superhero, and one aspect of that is that they are flawed.
Number ten doesn't seem to have an "I don't know" answer so...yeah... :hmm:We do not really have "I do not know" answers. IF you do not know, then leave it blank. Question 10 has three possible "there is not really an answer" responses, however: the old Dumbledore-is-evil idea, the Harry-did-imagine-it-idea, and it-will-not-be-discused possibility.

If you wish to spell out an alternative, then do what I did for 10:
10. a (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?p=4401774#post4401774). That provides a link to a post hypothesizing that Harry's blood is preventing Voldemort from making any more Horcruxes.

Thanks. :)

89. Bellatrix:
a. is killed by Neville.
b. is killed by Harry.
c. is killed by Snape.
d. is killed by Pettigrew.
e. is killed by Voldemort.
f. is killed by Narcissa.
g. dies some other way.
h. joins the good guys and lives.
i. lives to be a possible Dark Lady for the sequels.
j. will not be featured in the book at all.


...Will be administered the Dementor's Kiss?

Would I just choose G even though being administered the Kiss isn't the same thing?

Gosh, I've asked about three or four questions now, you guys must be getting irritated. :lol:

...Will be administered the Dementor's Kiss?

Would I just choose G even though being administered the Kiss isn't the same thing?

Gosh, I've asked about three or four questions now, you guys must be getting irritated.heh, I've administered midterms and finals at grade-grubbers U. before: you've got nothing on those weasels!

The Dementor's kiss effectively kills someone because it removes their soul. The soul is the "self" in Harry Potter, and for all of the fact that a body survives, the individual does not live. So, if that happens, then I am marking "g" for the correct answer.

ALSO! I'd like to close this down tomorrow........... SO! Please hurry up with the responses.

you've got nothing on those weasels!

And, hopefully, that won't change with this post :blush: :

Some post-survey questions:

R.A.B. figured out that the Cave had a Horcrux because: [MARK ALL THAT APPLY]

of stories that old Death Eaters told RAB.
RAB tracked down the orphans tortured there.
RAB helped Voldemort stock the lake with Inferi.
RAB was the Death Eater assigned to guard the Cave.
RAB tracked Lord Voldemort to the cave.
pure luck.
of a reason that will not be revealed.


No, "of another reason that will be revealed." for those who think this'll be revealed but don't agree with any of the options listed?

"For a fleeting instant, Harry thought he saw a gleam of something like triumph in Dumbledore's eyes. But the next second, Harry was sure he imagined it." The effect of Voldemort regenerating with Harry's blood was (will be) to:

provide Voldemort's downfall on its own.
provide Voldemort's downfall through the mix of Harry having a piece of Voldemort's soul and Voldemort having Harry's blood
provide Harry's salvation through the mix of Harry having a piece of Voldemort's soul and Voldemort having Harry's blood
allow Harry to survive his self-sacrifice.
help Harry destroy Horcruxes.
remove Voldemort's soul fragment from Harry.
mean that Harry's death will mean Voldemort's death.
do nothing; Dumbledore really was evil and glad see Voldemort immunized.
do nothing; it will be confirmed that Harry did just imagine this.
this will not be revealed.

No, "something different that will be revealed."? That one hung me up because my answer to number seven was, "making some other noble, love-inspired choice that catches the loveless Voldemort off-guard." which would eliminate D. I don't agree with A, B, C, E, F, G, H, I, or J so... :scared:

Voldemort "finally gets the legroom for which he has been aching during all those years in exile," which means : [MARK ALL THAT APPLY, BUT DO NOT CONTRADICT YOURSELF!

a relentless pursuit of Harry.
outright attempts to overthrow the Ministry of Magic.
outright attempts to takeover at Hogwarts
just general mayhem, death, etc.
establishing his own home base rather than skulking in the shadows.
nothing really, it is just nice to have legs again.
a several city tour as his alter-ego, David Bowie ("the return of the thin white Duke....").

I put A, B, C, D, and E...given that I only omitted two answers, I hope I didn't contradcit myself... :lol: I don't think I did but...I want to be sure no one else thinks I did.

R.A.B. figured out that the Cave had a Horcrux because: [MARK ALL THAT APPLY]

of stories that old Death Eaters told RAB.
RAB tracked down the orphans tortured there.
RAB helped Voldemort stock the lake with Inferi.
RAB was the Death Eater assigned to guard the Cave.
RAB tracked Lord Voldemort to the cave.
pure luck.
of a reason that will not be revealed.

"of another reason that will be revealed"?


I think that's it. I swear, I'll go away after this. :lol: :angel:

And, hopefully, that won't change with this post No, but....
You put in the statements rather than the letters! (This is being scored by a computer, so it will just read the letters rather than the words!) Any chance that you can rescore it with the letters?
No, "of another reason that will be revealed." for those who think this'll be revealed but don't agree with any of the options listed?In such cases, people are supposed to use the next letter after the last one. So, if it is a question like: Harry's favorite baseball team is: Red Sox;
Yankeemorts;
Met Eaters;
Cubs;
None of the above. and you think that the answer is the Houston Astros, then put in "e."

You put in the statements rather than the letters! (This is being scored by a computer, so it will just read the letters rather than the words!) Any chance that you can rescore it with the letters?

I didn't know that. :wow:

I'll try...I've got less than an hour to do it but I'll try. :scared:

Have the results of this been posted yet and I missed it?

No, because they'll be stickied at the top of this forum

Have the results of this been posted yet and I missed it?Mea culpa! I have been sitting on that for two weeks now..... :whistle:

I will post the results this week. PROMISE!