Gracezilla06 March 25th, 2007, 6:38 pm I thought the last words in each book might have some importance. Why else would JKR decide to tell us the last word was scar? Maybe they make a message or summarize the book or maybe show the plot line. What does everyone else think?
tuesday18 March 25th, 2007, 7:49 pm hello. ooh, first post. But yes, I was thinking this too. Not sure what message it could be though. Bit of a random assortment of words going on! heh.
hpcraig March 25th, 2007, 9:46 pm I think she told us that the last word would probably be scar, because it is just cool. It all depends on the last sentence, if the last word has meaning. I think Book 7's last sentence will be great.
Muggledude March 25th, 2007, 9:49 pm Well JK Rowling herself has said that the last word might change..."scar" is given to us by her because that's how she'd like to end it and it gives us, the fans, many more hours of speculating. It is an important word, but I don't think she's trying to give us some type of "secret message" or anything like that.
Pat4891 March 25th, 2007, 9:51 pm Do we know what the last words are in each book so we can analyse this?
sticky March 25th, 2007, 9:53 pm the words are summer, world, last, did, wake, hermione and scar if the rumours are true.
hpcraig March 25th, 2007, 9:56 pm The last words are:
Book 1: summer
Book 2: world
Book 3: last
Book 4: did
Book 5: wake
Book 6: Hermione
Book 7: scar?
From these, I do not think there is any "secret message" that has been hidden.
Muggledude March 25th, 2007, 9:57 pm The last words are:
Book 1: summer
Book 2: world
Book 3: last
Book 4: did
Book 5: wake
Book 6: Hermione
Book 7: scar?
From these, I do not think there is any "secret message" that has been hidden.
Thanks hpcraig and sticky for looking that up
Lemme just try something here: During the SUMMER Harry saves the WORLD by destroying the LAST horcrux which is in Voldemort, who he DID in, leaving Harry in St. Mungo's. When he is aWAKE HERMIONEsays to him," Harry! You're SCAR is gone!"
How's that? I think I just decoded the key to the Harry Potter series!
Pat4891 March 25th, 2007, 10:03 pm Thanks hpcraig for looking that up
Lemme just try something here: During the SUMMER Harry saves the WORLD by destroying the LAST horcrux which is in Voldemort, who he DID in, leaving Harry in St. Mungo's. When he is aWAKE HERMIONEsays to him," Harry! You're SCAR is gone!" How's that? I think I just decoded the key to the Harry Potter series!
It's goot but i don't think there is any real significance in the last words, I'm sure JK wouldn't be sure what the last word wouldbe in every book when she first started the series.
Muggledude March 25th, 2007, 10:10 pm I honestly don't believe that they have any significance as I have stated above. Just trying to have some fun. You know, that's probably how Deathly Hallows is going to go anyways.
hpcraig March 25th, 2007, 10:13 pm Thanks hpcraig and sticky for looking that up
Lemme just try something here: During the SUMMER Harry saves the WORLD by destroying the LAST horcrux which is in Voldemort, who he DID in, leaving Harry in St. Mungo's. When he is aWAKE HERMIONEsays to him," Harry! You're SCAR is gone!"
How's that? I think I just decoded the key to the Harry Potter series!
This is great! I don't think it will happen, but very creative use of the words. Haha.
Sub Zero March 26th, 2007, 2:42 am I don't know how much significance the last word of each story has, but I'm sure she just told us it because she figured we might find it interesting.
hplova15165 March 26th, 2007, 2:54 am Thanks hpcraig and sticky for looking that up
Lemme just try something here: During the SUMMER Harry saves the WORLD by destroying the LAST horcrux which is in Voldemort, who he DID in, leaving Harry in St. Mungo's. When he is aWAKE HERMIONEsays to him," Harry! You're SCAR is gone!"
How's that? I think I just decoded the key to the Harry Potter series!
I really don't think that's going to occur, because JK wouldn't plan out the series like that, but it really is an awesome "supposed" summary of the end of book 7.
PadfootBlack16 March 26th, 2007, 5:42 pm yeah...i dont think it will happen. But while on the topic:
I remember when I got GoF. There had been a lot of rumors about a major character dieing...I remember the first thing I did when I got the book was flip to the back and check out hte lat sentence and it made me think that Hagrid was the one that would die. i mean, since it was about a statment made by Hagrid.
RonandHermione4 March 27th, 2007, 12:14 am I was thinking about this too, because I noticed when I finished book six that the last words were "Ron and Hermione". I thought it might be foreshadowing, and since a little beforehand they mentioned Bill and Fleur's wedding, I concluded that there was a high chance they would confess their feelings for each other around the time of the wedding. Then a while later I come online and JKR herself had confirmed that "it is Ron and Hermione".
hplova15165 March 27th, 2007, 12:20 am I really don't think that the last words have anything to do with what is happening in the series. But I do think JK wrote the ending to the book so that scar would be the last word. It's too much of a coincidence.
gandalfthewhite March 27th, 2007, 12:49 am I think that RAB is not a name, but a secret group opposed to Voldemort. Kind of like the Order of the Phoenix. If RAB is a group they would have to have a spy closed to Voldemort. Snape maybe?
theblueflamingo March 27th, 2007, 2:33 am I've thought about this before, and also tried first words, and also a combo of both...but didn't get anything too ...meaningful.
kuroi_shi March 27th, 2007, 3:01 am Thanks hpcraig and sticky for looking that up
Lemme just try something here: During the SUMMER Harry saves the WORLD by destroying the LAST horcrux which is in Voldemort, who he DID in, leaving Harry in St. Mungo's. When he is aWAKE HERMIONEsays to him," Harry! You're SCAR is gone!"
How's that? I think I just decoded the key to the Harry Potter series!
That's brilliant =D
rigdoctorbri March 27th, 2007, 10:30 pm Book 1: summer
Book 2: world
Book 3: last
Book 4: did
Book 5: wake
Book 6: Hermione
Book 7: scar?
Let us rearrange these just as they are: Did Hermione wake last summer world scar?
I have seen the word SCAR noted as both simply S-C-A-R and S-C-A-R-? If we take these and transpose them to a sentence, with "scar?" at the end, above we get what I wrote above. Now, if we just add a few minor words to make it a complete sentence we get the following message:
Did Hermione wake last summer in a world with no scar?
Take the "?" away, and change the order and we can get something like this:
Hermione did wake last summer in a world without a scar.
What might prove important here is what the last word is in the translated versions of the books. If they all translate exactly to the above, then we might be able to make an inference about a hidden meaning. Many languages do not follow the same grammatical pattern as English, in fact most don't. They kind of sound like you are talking to Yoda. "Yes. Lost a planet he has."
hpcraig March 28th, 2007, 12:01 am Book 1: summer
Book 2: world
Book 3: last
Book 4: did
Book 5: wake
Book 6: Hermione
Book 7: scar?
I have seen the word SCAR noted as both simply S-C-A-R and S-C-A-R-? If we take these and transpose them to a sentence, with "scar?" at the end, above we get what I wrote above."
I wrote scar with a question mark because it might of changed since she told us. This does not mean that there is a question as the last sentence in book seven.
MHPFAN March 28th, 2007, 12:15 am Hermione did wake last summer in a world without a scar.
What might prove important here is what the last word is in the translated versions of the books. If they all translate exactly to the above, then we might be able to make an inference about a hidden meaning.
Very interesting. However, from that, what could possibly be the meaning? If the name would have been Harry instead of Hermione, I could see how it could be suspect. (It could have meant that Harry dreamnt the whole thing.)
hermy_loves_ron March 28th, 2007, 12:26 am If he wakes up and it was all a dream, I think I'd chuck the book into the fireplace. ;)
But, like theblueflamingo, I have tried many different combinations with the first words, last words, sentences (and once even with stuff in the very middle) and got nada.
I don't think she'd sacrafice that last, resounding ring that the last sentence/word of a book is supposed to give off just to come up with some secret code to all seven of the books that has no meaning to the characters themselves (i.e., they're not going to know about the "secret code" because they're living it, not reading the words in a book.).
rigdoctorbri March 28th, 2007, 12:43 am If he wakes up and it was all a dream, I think I'd chuck the book into the fireplace. ;)
But, like theblueflamingo, I have tried many different combinations with the first words, last words, sentences (and once even with stuff in the very middle) and got nada.
I don't think she'd sacrafice that last, resounding ring that the last sentence/word of a book is supposed to give off just to come up with some secret code to all seven of the books that has no meaning to the characters themselves (i.e., they're not going to know about the "secret code" because they're living it, not reading the words in a book.).
JKR chooses her words very carefully. This is one of the reasons she does not just crank out novel after novel like Stephen King, or Bob Salvatore. Sure, I agree it is a stretch for her to implant a coded message in the last word of each novel, but she has been known to play with anagrams, and puzzles for us to figure out. Just look at her website! She uses puzzles for us to figure out so we can unlock different areas there. The most well known of her word puzzles was an anagram of Tom Marvolo Riddle: I Am Lord Voldemort.
To use the last word of her novels as a clue is not out of reach, in fact it is even likely that she would. It is an easy one for us to at least catch.
Now, I must be off...I have to see if I can find an anagram contained within these words.
EBJ23 March 28th, 2007, 11:30 am I don't really see any real significance in the last words of the book. They don't have any more importance than the other words in the books.
Megan Mystic March 29th, 2007, 9:00 pm The last words are:
Book 1: summer
Book 2: world
Book 3: last
Book 4: did
Book 5: wake
Book 6: Hermione
Book 7: scar?
From these, I do not think there is any "secret message" that has been hidden.
Last summer, did hermione wake scar world?
....sorry.
I had to do it.
Definitely no secret meaning in the last words, but what about the last couple of paragraphs...? Not all together of course, but by themselves. Do each present a common theme or set up? Are all of the paragraphs grammatically the same?
Maybe some parralellism was created here.
I'm off to check it out.
troryfan July 9th, 2007, 9:01 pm How About:
After that Summer, The World did Last. Harry did wake, without Hermione or his Scar.:tu:
I truly hope that this would never happen!
I don't think that I could stand it if it were all a dream.
Jo
snapeismyhero August 14th, 2007, 7:40 am Nope I just don't see it. There are better ways for J.K. Rowling to have secret messages, and I just don't think this one is true.
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