That "certain room" JKR mentioned

At the request of the amazing whizbang121, and select others, an error was discovered in the original quote of the "important room" thread. As a result, this new thread has been created, containing the correct quote from JKR which, for the record, is:


Q: If you could travel to Hogwarts for an hour, what would you do there?
A: Go straight into a certain room, mentioned in book four, which has certain magical properties Harry hasn't discovered yet!

Please note that JKR does not mention that Harry has necessarily visited this room -- merely that it exists and was mentioned in book four.

So, start speculating. :)

Oooooooh this brings so many more possibilities doesnt it?
I really dont know - I have a feeling theres a link between the room J K rowling mentions and the room thats featured in the coming book 5 (9 days! wahey!) thats at the end of a corridor
Im thinking, as its a room that harry DREAMS about and might not actually go IN, its something to do with the riddle house - remember how Frank Bryce walked along a corridor to the room Voldie was in? hmmmmmm something to ponder!
Seems a little too obvious though, for JK dont u think? she usually takes little unimportant things from the previous books and makes them into big things and u go back and think "derr! how cud i have missed that?"

Thank you rotsie.

my personal opinion? The room that Dumbledore stumbled across in the fourth book-housing a magnificent collection of chamberpots

Woohoo we have another believer.

What we know:

It's a room mentioned in book 4. This only means it's in book 4. It doesn't mean nobody was in it. It doesn't mean that a person mentioned it, and it does not mean that a person did NOT mention it. It does sound like it's mentioned ONLY in book 4 though, but we can't be sure.

It has magic properties Harry doesn't know yet. This sounds to me that there must me magical properties Harry know about, or that he at least knows stuff about the room.

That's what we know. Not much. Things we DO NOT know is if the room actually will pop up in future plotlines.

Based on this information, the rooms that fit are (in my personal order of preference):

1. Prefects bathroom (because that's definitely a place you would want to spend an hour).
2. The room at the end of the great hall (to talk to all the old paintings, perhaps?).
3. Chamberpot room (depends on what the magical properties are, and we don't know that).
4. The Kitchens (Why? To eat british food? Can't she do that anyway?).

If we don't assume that it is a room only mentioned in book four, then of course there can be many more rooms.

What about some of the rooms visited in Harry's dreams, would they count? In which case the Riddle House could come into play because Harry did visit it, although rather vicariously.

Just on a side note: please don't openly discuss spoilers in here. Keep all book five spoiler information to this (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7914) thread.

Thanks! :)

The room is in Hogwarts rotsie, so I dont think it will be one of the rooms in Harry's dream unless it is a hidden chamber there somewhere.

I think Rowling means that the chamber is only mentioned in the fourth book, not in the other books.
And I think Harry has been there, because Rowling says: 'certain magical properties Harry hasn't discoverd yet'. Because how could he have discovered the properties if he hasn't even been there? He must have been there, or Rowling wouldn't have said that. (in my opinion).

I think it's the prefects bathroom.
That bathroom was in the story for no reason. Cedric could have told Harry just to take a bath. Maybe that bathroom will get more important in later books.

another important bathroom?

forgive me if i sound, well, demented, but hasnt that been done once already? or have you forgotten about the Chamber of Secrets?

I haven't forgotten about that (of course), but I still think it could be that that bathroom has 'certain magical properties'. Even Moaning Myrtle was happy there, now that's saying something ;)

Good point.

If I remember theres a picture of a mermaid on the wall( the only picture)
I wonder if this is a clue and if the merpeople are somehow connected to this

I think it's a room in the Riddle house. There has to be something about that house. I get feelings about things and whenever i read about that house I get the feeling it's big. Plus, it could be the new place Harry visits...

I suppose we do have to bear in mind the context of the interview that JKR gave. The purpose, no doubt, was to "talk about her latest book", so she's invariably going to relate most questions to the content of GoF.

Personally, I don't think the statement "mentioned in book four" necessarily implies that this room was first mentioned in book four. It's all subjective, I suppose.

Originally posted by dumbleedore (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=364595#post364595))
I think it's a room in the Riddle house. There has to be something about that house. I get feelings about things and whenever i read about that house I get the feeling it's big. Plus, it could be the new place Harry visits...


The Riddle House is definitely not in Hogwarts. And the question was:
"If you could travel to Hogwarts for an hour, what would you do there?"

Perhaps someone should read through GoF and list every room in Hogwarts that is mentioned. For all we know, it could be Griffindor Tower. That wouldn't surprise me terribly much - towers are always powerful (now that I think about it, it could be the tallest astronomy tower. Why are students not allowed in there except for lessons?) and if Harry really is the Heir of Griffindor he may be able to access whatever powers it contains. Maybe it's a portal to that place Harry's going to visit in book 5.

But the Gryffindor Tower and the Astronomy tower are both mentioned before the fourth book. As I said, I don't think rowling would say 'mentioned in book four' when the room is mentioned earlier too.

^ Yes she would. I'll restate that quote:


Q: If you could travel to Hogwarts for an hour, what would you do there?
A: Go straight into a certain room, mentioned in book four, which has certain magical properties Harry hasn't discovered yet!


She does not mention the other three books at all. Therefore, you have no logical basis for assuming the rooms weren't mentioned before book 4.

But it's more logical than assuming that the room is mentioned in earlier books too, if she says 'mentioned in book 4'.

I don't see why .. it would be very Rowlingesque to make the room the Great Hall or something. Maybe there's more to that magic roof than meets the eye.

Could it be the room that is behind/in the seventh lock of moody's trunk?

now, thats another idea. i didnt think of that one!

I really don't want to guess the room but I think it could be important because it could be a passage to Goric's Chamber.

to where?

maybe you mean Godric's hollow...... or NOT!!!!

The chamber of Godric (like chamber of secrets)

anyway, did she say it would be revealed in this next book?

^ I don't know. I don't think so.

In book five, we go into a whole new area, physically, an area you've never seen before, a magical world.

is this what she means by the powerful room?

what about the broom closet rita skeeter drags harry into to interview him??not very likely,but still,u never know.or maybe the room in which the photographs were taken.
or it cud b the room with the chamberpots!!

What magical powers does the broom closet have that Harry already knows about?

I thought the quote meant the room was only mentioned in book four too, otherwise why the clarification on it?

The chamber pots room sounds likely to me. If Harry was there for that story then he knows of some magic surrounding the room, but he certainly doesn't know all of it.

Most of the other rooms don't really have any magic about them that we know of.

Originally posted by Thyme_of_Change (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=364705#post364705))
Could it be the room that is behind/in the seventh lock of moody's trunk?


Unless the room actually does not exist anywhere except in the trunk, then that room would not be in Hogwarts either, but somewhere else, and the trunk is just a doorway. And if the room exists in the trunk, well, then it' really not Hogwarts anyway. ;)

Hmm....Does the trial room in the pensieve count as a room, or merely a memory?

I wouldn't think that would count.

I think it's quite possibly going to be the Prefects bathroom. Are we going to find out about this room in the next book or is it further into the future?

If Harry, Ron or Hermione get made Prefects then that would give them more oppotunitys to explore the bathroom.

I really don't think it's going to be the chamberpot room. My reasoning- seems like more of a joke the way he said it, and he winked at Harry, or so Harry thought.

I have this gut feeling, with no reasoning to back it up that it's going to be the room off of the Great Hall where the champions were after the goblet selected their names.

Hogwarts is full of secret rooms (or chambers), so it could be any room that was mentioned in GoF. But the most likely guess would have to be the chamber pot room. Cheers:)!

Originally posted by Schlubalybub (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=364764#post364764))
In book five, we go into a whole new area, physically, an area you've never seen before, a magical world.

is this what she means by the powerful room?


Maybe, maybe not. She doesn't connect the two - but she doesn't deny a connection either. As I said above, maybe Gryffindor Tower contains some unrevealed power that can transport Harry to this area we've never seen before. Maybe.

Originally posted by CaptainNick (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=364857#post364857))
Maybe, maybe not. She doesn't connect the two - but she doesn't deny a connection either. As I said above, maybe Gryffindor Tower contains some unrevealed power that can transport Harry to this area we've never seen before. Maybe.


I like the idea of Gryffindor Tower. It's not something we would think of as having some kind of power because there are constantly people in it, yet Hogwarts is a mysterious place.

it wouldnt make sense for it to be the chamber pot room-first off, they dont know what times it there, and what times its not, second off-if they need to have an immediate meeting, and the room isnt there, what would happen?and what if the room dissapeared WITH them in there?ahh

I'm still going for the kitchens because it didn't really have to do anything with the plot as a room. It was only involved with S.P.E.W. Winky was in the kitchen and she was part of the Barty Crouch Plot but the kitchen really didn't play a part in that.
I think the prefect's bathroom is too involved in the plot in GoF with the Triwizard Championships. It doesn't seem like JK to use something that has already been in the main plot line. The chamberpot room seems too much of a joke. I doubt its existence; it just seemed to be used to prove a point to Karkaroff at the Yule Ball.
Has anyone mentioned the Hospital Wing.....? Maybe that could be part of it because the books always seem to end there.....

The Chamberpot Room. I don't think it was necessarily just a joke, and I certainly don't think it doesn't exist. Dumbledore has never struck me as the sort to tell a lie just to make a point.

I love the idea that the room presents you with whatever you want at any given time. Dumbledore was searching for the bathroom so it gives him the next best thing - chamberpots. I'd love to go into a room like that myself, and if JKR *was* talking about it, I can see why she'd would want to go there too.

there's a difference between a room that was "mentioned" in book for, and has magical properties that harry hasn't "discovered yet". does this mean we've heard about it (it was merely mentioned) and harry's never been in it (therefore not knowing of magical properties) or does this mean that harry HAS in fact been in this room and he hasn't discovered some magical properties within it?? i hope i just made sense because, quite plainly, im confusing myself a bit...

Does Anyone have the exact quote (or perhaps there's two for different rooms)

Some people seem under the impression it is:

A room Harry has been in, and has not discovered it "specialness" (specialness is an attempt at filling in what the actual word was)

While other people seem to think:

It's a room Harry has never been in that was mentioned in Book 4 (I've even heard this version to include all 4 books, rather than just Book 4)

I've heard it back and forth so much, I'm no longer sure what the hint is

Originally posted by dumbleedore (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=364595#post364595))
I think it's a room in the Riddle house. There has to be something about that house. I get feelings about things and whenever i read about that house I get the feeling it's big. Plus, it could be the new place Harry visits...

I think you may be right about the Riddle house, but how can it have anything to do with this quote? This is about a room in Hogwarts.

I'm going to go with the Divination Classroom.

Reasons being thus

(i) Trelawney's second prediction
(ii) Harry's vision of Little Hangleton
(iii) Harry dismisses it

That room may actually posses the necessary qualities to induce visions, like Trelawney claims.

I don't see chamber pots having much doing sorry.

i don't think the riddle house has to do with this specific room JKR is talking about, but it deffinately could be another room in which harry will visit in future books......

I agree with sushigirly. The Riddle House is not the room that JK is talking about because it is not in Hogwarts or even near it. Hogwarts isn't anywhere near any Muggle villages because it is in the open countryside.

Originally posted by Thyme_of_Change (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=364705#post364705))
Could it be the room that is behind/in the seventh lock of moody's trunk?


That's new (to me anyway).
We should also probably note that jkr never said this room would be in any of the coming books, so this thread may be an exercise in futility.

sigh

^ Good point, unfortunately.


Q: If you could travel to Hogwarts for an hour, what would you do there?
A: Go straight into a certain room, mentioned in book four, which has certain magical properties Harry hasn't discovered yet!


I say again that anything else you deduce from this cannot be treated as fact. It says it was mentioned in book 4. It does not say anything about the other three. Therefore you cannot say that it definitely was or definitely wasn't in the other books. Also, it says this room has properties Harry hasn't discovered yet. It doesn't say whether he visited this room or not, so you can't say whether he did one way or the other with any confidence.

The most logical approach would be to list all the rooms at Hogwarts that appear in book 4 and start taking bets from there.

Originally posted by CaptainNick (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=366249#post366249))
^ Good point, unfortunately.


The most logical approach would be to list all the rooms at Hogwarts that appear in book 4 and start taking bets from there.


yeah, but, life is short. Could I take a raincheck on that one?
I think, that not knowing if this room is going to play into future books is sapping my enthusiasm on one hand. But on the other hand, why would she bring it up otherwise?

I'm sorry.

I like the kitchen. There's so much more to house elves than we know.

i personally think it would help a ton if we figured out whether she's talking about a room that was just mentioned or a room that harry's actually been in (since he hasn't "discovered the magical properties yet") i know i posted what i just said before, but i think it would narrow down many possibilities..... and then again we can just wait till it comes out!!!! 9 more days people!!!!! although it IS fun guessing now isn't it???

It is fun, and it helps with the sanity while we wait. Great way to meet HP fans as well.

I definitely like the Trelawney classroom idea. I really really really wanna know what her first prediction was! Hope that's part of the "everything" DD's gonna tell us in 10 days! And it's definitely important that Harry dismisses the room. What Harry dismisses is often more important than meets the eye.

Someone in the other thread suggested that the chamber pot room would give you whatever you needed most at that point. It gave DD the chamber pots because he needed them!:p Sort of like the mirror of erised except it's a room and it actually gives it to you instead of just showing it to you. That could really come in handy! And JKR would want to go into that room because it would give her what she wanted most. (Hmm, what would that be? Less fame? People to stop discussing everything she says in internet forums? Hehe. :rolleyes: )

The prefects bathroom is a possibility, especially since Hermione will probably be made a prefect and will be going into it often.

I could see the chamberpot room working if Harry were in danger and the room could therefore save him somehow by giving him what he needed , as oppose to what he wanted

Originally posted by jaedi (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=365403#post365403))
I'm still going for the kitchens because it didn't really have to do anything with the plot as a room.

Neither did the so called "triwizard room".
But then again, why would that be important?

The important thing here is not if it was important in Book 4 or if it will be important in book 5. This is the room that JKR would go to. The main omportance is then, which room would she like the most!

And then, why the kitchens? What is so fantastic about a kitchen?

I dunno im just tryin 2 think thru all the different rooms mentioned in book 4
I think im actually goin to read thru briefly this afternoon and make a list of all the rooms mentioned and post them on here, so i'll be bak in a bit!!

I know im probably going to be tortured evily for saying this - but i really dont think its the chamberpot room - i think that was just j k's way of adding a bit of humour in there for us :)

I'm for the chamberpot room being more than just a passing reference. The room itself gives you what you need. So many possibilities. Dumbledore's obscure references sure do get a lot of thread time, don't they?

I just re-read PS/SS for like the 1000th time after readin a the Unofficial Guide to the Mysteries of Harry Potter. One of the rules in there is if JKR mentions something again and again then it is important. Well, it may be a stretch but here goes.
On the back of Dumbledore's famous Witches and Wizards card it says he enjoys "Chamber Music and tenpin bowlin" Book 2 was "chamber of secrets" and in GoF Dumbledore refers to the room full of chamber pots. There's got to be something to this chamber thing. So I'm guessing that the important room is either the Chamber of Secrets or the Chamber Pot Room.

I think trelawny's room is fascinating, and that may be the answer. The kitchens are interesting because dobby is such a powerful creature. What are house elves capable of? And could the kitchen have a portal to the whole new place? Just some possibilities.

I've always thought it was the Prefect's bathroom. Harry didn't spend much time in there, and only really figured out the cool taps. There's probably much more magical stuff in there. I'd like to see what's up with the mermaid in the painting, as well. Being a girl, I could definitely understand JKR's wish to spend an hour in there - it's like your own personal spa! Perhaps JKR wasn't really giving us a hint as to which room will be most important in a future book, as much as she was saying a room that she would enjoy to be in for an hour.

BTW, I don't think she was talking about the Riddle House or Godric's Hollow or anything outside of Hogwarts. The question was, "if you could spend an hour at HOGWARTS...", not "if you could spend an hour in Harry's world...".

i deffinately agree with Bit, maybe this certain room that JKR is talking about isn't necesarily going to be critical in future books, but just a cool and fun room to be in..... like the prefects bathroom or another room... it certainly makes sense now that i think about it. ;)

Originally posted by smartypants (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=366927#post366927)) What is so fantastic about a kitchen?


FOOOOOOD!

Any room can be fantastic at Hogwarts. Moaning Myrtle's bathroom didn't seem very special until it turned out to have the Chamber of Secrets entrance there.

I'd feel pretty cheated if this special room doesn't ever appear in the series. I think it will, since JKR said Harry hasn't discovered its powers yet , suggesting that he will eventually. Unless she changes her mind, of course.

My mind is all confused now because these all sound like legitimate theories!!!!!!! Only 9 more days!

I also noticed all those "chambers"

Chamber of Secrets
Chamber music
Chamber pot room
Bird/key room in PS is referred to as a chamber.

Any other chamber references? I think it's probably just a coincidence, though.

Now I'm leaning towards the prefect's bathroom because:
1. Hermione or someone else we know will probably be made prefect in bk5.
2. Harry was only in it briefly and didn't have time to discover its magical properties.
3. It just seems like such a magical place! The chandelier, the huge swimming pool/bathtub, it has to be magical.
4. JKR would wanna be in it because it's like a spa.

I liked the reference that someone made to the hospital wing, after all the Trio spends an awful lot of time in there, but either someone is injured (or cat-like) or just visiting the injured (or cat-like). Never really noticing what's going on around them... intersting poing to whoever made it. (sorry I'm too lazy to go back and look)

OK, here's a thought. It's a room that's been featured heavily in a previous book, but is only mentioned in book 4. So that's why she says it, to throw us off track. For example, if it was the CoS (not saying it is!) and she said 'a certain room that Harry doesn't know the properties of yet, that played a massive part in book 2' then we'd all know which one it was! So maybe she's just being cagey to throw us off.

Originally posted by Essbee (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=369187#post369187))
OK, here's a thought. It's a room that's been featured heavily in a previous book, but is only mentioned in book 4. So that's why she says it, to throw us off track. For example, if it was the CoS (not saying it is!) and she said 'a certain room that Harry doesn't know the properties of yet, that played a massive part in book 2' then we'd all know which one it was! So maybe she's just being cagey to throw us off.


But the Chamber of Secrets isn't mentioned in book 4. Or did I forget it?

It might've been in some sort of re-cap section, but I don't know. I wasn't saying that it had been, I was just using that really obvious example for if the room had been heavily used in a previous book but only mentioned in GoF.

Sorry if I confused anyone there!

The more I think about this question, the more it drives me batty. I wish JKR wasn't so stinking vague with her answers sometimes... I'm still sticking with my Chamber idea, but I do have to say that the kitchens are in strong running for second with me. Dumbledore said that James Potter used his invisibility cloak to sneak off to the kitchens to steal food (PS/SS Ch. 17 The man with 2 Faces). But we know it's easy to get food from the kitchens, the house elves just give it to you, so what was James doing in the kitchens???? Maybe something magical?
My brian is fried with all these theories....HURRY UP JUNE 21!!!!

'Twas I, Nickel, who posted that. Thanks for the support in the idea. :) Here's my list so far of possible rooms

1. The Kitchens
2. Prefects Bathroom
3. Hospital
4. Chamberpot Room

Besides the Riddle House and CoS, I can't think of anything else that would be on here. Can anyone?

Yes, the room that the Triwizard champs go into behind the Great Hall. Seems like the strongest possibility for me. Harry was certainly pre-occupied when he was in there!

JKR said the room was ROUND!!! If that is the case... consider the following rooms in and around Hogwards that are SPECIFICALLY described as being round:

Dumbledore's Office
Trlawney's Classroom
Hagrid's Hut
The Owlery

Originally posted by talullah (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=369913#post369913))
JKR said the room was ROUND!!! If that is the case... consider the following rooms in and around Hogwards that are SPECIFICALLY described as being round:

Dumbledore's Office
Trlawney's Classroom
Hagrid's Hut
The Owlery


When did JK say it was round? Can you get us a quote for that?

Good Q. I got it from the interviews posted on the main site. I'll check it out again and get back to you... brb

I don't remember the round thing at all, but isn't Griffindor Tower also round? At least Harry's dormitory is a round room

Well, I would have thought that most rooms in a tower were circular because most towers are circular, and it's be silly to build a circular tower and then stick square rooms in it to be contrary...

Thanks Tallulah. I look forward to reading it!

This is going to take longer than I thought... ever had one of those factoids that sticks with you and then it has been so long you can't recall where you heard it?

Well, I am certain I got it from an interview and I'd bet my life on it... I just can't find it and I re-read all of the i-views and even searched the site... one of those things I should have written down... still looking...

Okydoky. Well, when you find it post it. :)

Ya I can't wait to read that one either....I probablly did once, but I don't remember it. :) can't wait talullah

This is an interesting development.... I'm sorry. I forgot to put the Triwizard room on my list. Well, I wouldn't be suprised if the room we are talking about and the room on the cover of OotP are the one and the same because that room appears to be round! Hmm.... the tower idea is a good one. I never knew Dumbledore's office was round, though it probably is. I don't pay very much attention to details :D. It seems like a good idea.

Is Hagrid's Hut round? In the movies, it was, but in the movies it was made of stone, not out of wood like in the book. It's kinda hard to make wood round.:) Besides, i don't think Hagrid's hut is technically part of Hogwarts Castle.

And is the special room even round? I think if it was I'd have heard of it. I'll believe you when you get the quote.;)

Hmmm, the chamberpot room is supposed to be beautifully proportioned. That kinda implies that it has dimensions, like length and width, not just a radius. (Arghh, too much math! :angry: )

I know the common room is round, and I'm sure alot of other rooms are referred to as being round that I've forgotten about. Anyone know?

And the hospital wing is a good idea. (that is if the round thing's not true.) It's mentioned sooo often, and the people in it are usually distracted.

I got this off of good ol' Mugglenet...
* During an interview, when JKR was asked in which Hogwarts room she'd like to be for 1 hour, she said it would be a room in which Harry has been before, but doesn't know its importance. Yet.

I just thought of something while I was reading all of the other posts, which are very interesting! Lemme quote something first. . .

(Goblet of Fire, American Edition, Chapter 23 The Yule Ball, Page 417)'"Oh I would never dream of assuming I know all Hogwarts' secrets, Igor," said Dumbledore amicably. "Only this morning, for instance, I took a wrong turn on the way to the bathroom and found myself in a beautifully proportioned room I have never seen before, containing a really rather magnificent collection of chamber pots. When I went back to investigate more closely, I discovered that the room had vanished. But I must keep an eye out for it. Possibly it is only accessible at five-thirty in the morning. Or it may only appear at the quarter moon -- or when the seeker has an exceptionally full bladder."'

Could this chamber be a room like the Mirror of Erised? It shows the person within whatever they desire? And reading this, I get the feeling, that Dumbledore didn't use any of those magnificent chamber pots. He went on to the Headmasters restroom? Suppertime! Cheers:hug:!

I still think that Dumbeldore was only joking about that room! By he way he winked... I honestly don't think was that important. If it was I don't think that he would've tolf Karkaroff about it, when he obviously doesn't trust him.

I agree with you Essbee; I don't think that room would be anything significant given the context it is presented in. Dumbledore appears to be mentioning the room just to prove a point to Karkaroff. I'm not saying that it didn't happen, I just don't think that it is very likely that this room is important at the moment. Maybe it will be important in future books if it is mentioned again in a different, more serious context.

Yeah, but only if it is mentioned in a more serious context. It was too jokey...

As for what room it is, I have no idea. But I wouldn't be too much surprised if something 'too jokey' later turns out to have been a clue.

No, I'm still putting my money on the Triwizard room. And that it could be the room from the cover of OotP.

(I typed that wrong the first time and put OotO... What's that?!?! Order of the Ostrich?!!?!)

I'm convinced it's not the chamberpot room (I know I've said that before)

But, I really think it was the room the champions go in after their names come out of the goblet is our best bet. It was a quick mention, and nothing more. Kind of like the Sirius mention...

Originally posted by wendelin_the_weird (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=371091#post371091))
I got this off of good ol' Mugglenet...
* During an interview, when JKR was asked in which Hogwarts room she'd like to be for 1 hour, she said it would be a room in which Harry has been before, but doesn't know its importance. Yet.


This quote is WRONG!!! JKR never said Harry had been in the room, that's just Mugglenet's paraphrasing. I thought that had already been made clear. Check the beginning of the thread for the actual quote.

The wink could be interpreted two ways. One is that DD winked to show Harry that he was just joking, and that the room has no significance. The other one is that DD winked to imply to Harry that the room is important, and that it is significant. I don't understand winks. Darn double meanings!

Haha, Order of the Ostrich! I wanna be part of that order!:rotfl:

The Triwizard room sounds the most possible as the room... was it built specifically for the Triwizard tournament?? I'll go look in the books to see if they mention it anywhere earlier than GoF... if it was there before the tournament, then I'm 99% sure the "certian room" is the Triwizard room.

:) :p

The Order of the Ostrich is my kind of thing! Yep... I'm a member! All must bow down to members of the Order of the Ostrich!! hahahahaha jk
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

:) :p

Okay, I missed something important here. Ostiches? Like ostrich sandwiches?
Well, I guess we have it narrowed down to any one of about 6 or 7 rooms now. I still like the kitchens. Those house elves, ya know? But I wouldn't be surprised if it's trelawny's classroom, either.

I still believe its the chamber pot room. Why? I dont know :p
Maybe it gives people things they need when they need something right away. Like DD having to go potty, I mean going through an entire castle to get to a bathroom seems like a waste of time, so the room just appeared with chamber pots. And the win, although makes it seem like a joke, may mean that DD knows its important and is trying to tell Harry.

If its not that, Id have to say that its the Prefects Bathroom for the reason that even Myrtle seemed happy in it.

This is going to be the stupidest theory yet, but here goes:

I think it might be a room under a staircase. The staircase with the trick step. I mean, when your foot goes through the step, I think it leads down to a hidden room or something.

I'm postive this is wrong, but hey, we have to consider every possibility right?

so many good choices.

Anyone wishing to join the Order of the Ostrich is welcome. I'll do you a thingumy for your sigs if you like. (I have wayyyy too much time on my hands!)

Meanwhile, I re-iterate. I am sure it is not the chamberpot room. I am quite sure that it is the Triwizard room.

Edit Anyone who wants an Order of the Ostrich banner (like in my sig) can PM me and I'll send you the url to link to. Hehe... :D

The chamberpot room idea is utterly hilarious to me. :D But I think I'm going for Dumbledore's office or Trelawney's classroom. I'm more leaning toward the former, because Harry seems to have certain significant moments when he's in Dumbledore's office. That is where he met Fawkes. That is where he stumbles on the pensieve, is drawn into the pensieve, and gets clues regarding the Crouches. I also think it's just the idea that someone as powerful as Dumbledore who seems to know a lot of what is going on, also retains a lot of secrets of the past/what is going to happen. He keeps the sorting hat there as well, which is a significant instrument itself because it helped Harry kill the Basilisk in CoS.

Then again, you look at the book cover picture and you see a lot of candles (I think) in a circular room. Given the atmosphere always described in Trelawney's classroom, the idea of Trelawney's classroom being the room JKR hinted at is also a good one.

Yes, Muse, but that description and picture on the cover of OotP could also refer to the Triwizard champions room.

Incidentally, we've no proof that we'll find out in book five, or even book six. Or even at all! Wouldn't that be annoying?

Good point, there isn't much of a description in GoF regarding the Triwizard Champions' room, so it may be a good possibility that it is the room JKR hinted at. But GoF mentioned it had a fireplace with a mantle and it was lined with paintings of witches and wizards. If there was a fireplace, would candles still be needed, particularly if it also mentions it's a small room (contary to Dumbledore's office being described as a large, circular one)? I guess I bring up Dumbledore's office also because of the way it is described in the 2nd book (chapter 12) where JKR interestingly through Harry writes, "One thing was certain: of all the teachers' offices Harry had visited so far, Dumbledore's was by far the most interesting." Also I was brought to mind the way it was made in the movie, with the circular stairway(s ? need to recheck) adjacent to Dumbledore's desk that go up to a second level, and then who knows whether there's another one after that. Just a few additional observations I had regarding his office. :)

Dumbledore's office is most certainly cool. And I feel that Harry has not learnt all it's secrets yet, and maybe never will. But I don't suppose that it's the room that JK was talking about. After all, we all think that Dumbledore's office is cool, and we'd all like to go and have a look around. So for her to say 'I'd go to Dumbledore's Office' wouldn't have aroused any suspicions.

I reckon it's got to be a room that if she had said it we would have all gone 'why? There must be something else in there!' and that would have blown it for her.

Which is why I say the Triwizard room.

Incidentally, if you imagine that the pictures are all hiding doors as they do occasionally (think the Fat Lady) then it looks even more like the room from the cover.

Having said all that, I don't think that JK's 'certain room' is the room on the cover, whichever room it is. That's just us searching for connections...

PS Is anyone going to join the Order of the Ostrich yet?

I suppose the triwizard room could be it, I just like the chamber pots room idea better hehe
(what is the order of the ostrich essbee?

The Order of the Ostrich arose because I typed OotO instead of OotP and so wondered what the O stoood for... I guess we're people driven so totally crazy by the thought of it still being 6 days to go until we get book 5... ;)

It's not that I don't like the ChamberPot idea, just that... I don't think it is.

Wouldn't it be funny if it was though? Although why JK would want to spend an hour in a room ful of vintage chamber pots I cannot imagine! :D

You know, I forgot about the paintings hiding other rooms like the houses' commons. But paintings idea is a good one--makes me wonder because Dumbledore's office also had paintings in it. Hmmm...ooh, the suspense, the suspense! Heheheh. :D I am hoping she will reveal it in Book 5...heck, as large as that book is going to be, I'm hoping she squeezed it in there somewhere! :D

I tell you one thing, if it IS the chamberpot room, it's gonna be one heck of a hilarous moment to see how WB transfers it to screen. Look how they did the CoS with all the humongous snake heads. :D

ok well I suppose I will join but I am keeping my sigy as it is. I will write something about it in there though.
Well it could be that the room gives you what you need at that moment in time. I think it would be funny as well.

Okydoky. In that case, Mystically_Mad, I dub you a fully-fledged member of the Order of the Ostrich!

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Arise!

Getting back on topic then... ;)

If she doesn't reveal it in book five then I will get antsy for sure... But at least then this thread will keep going! Hehe. We should print it off and send it to JK in an envelope, I wonder what she'd think of us!

There's always the possibility of every picture being a doorway of sorts, though I doubt they all are. Talking about the portraits, I'm sure that if the chamberpot room does exist then the paintings will know where it is. Gossip and all.

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Yeah, I bet they do. And the statues and armour and all them. I wonder if Peeves knows.

I think Peeves would know. But he wouldn't tell anyone, in fact I think he'd find it hilariously funny if he knew about this room and not even the teachers did...

Um, not much. Enjoy the knowledge that you are a member? Did you have something more exciting in mind?

Originally posted by Essbee (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=374123#post374123))
Wouldn't it be funny if it was though? Although why JK would want to spend an hour in a room ful of vintage chamber pots I cannot imagine! :D


Well it could be the Chamber pot room because DD said he was heading to the bathroom. Chamber pots are toilets from the old days, and thats what he needed. The room probably gives you what you need at the moment.... so JKR wouldnt be going there necessarilary for chamber pots, but for what she needs. It makes sense

Interesting theory Moony! That's a possibility that makes sense.

I've been wondering about this quote too ever since I first saw it. I doubt it has anything to do with the chamberpots themselves though. I don't see how that would ever fit into the story. Unless Moony's theory is correct. But chamberpots seem of no use. Just my opinion.

I do wonder about this room and why it's so important. If JK really wants to go there, it must be something really important or something really cool.

Okay, something else just came to me...

JK Rowling--->Books---->Library?

What about the library? Maybe the magical property is like the shifting staircases in the castle--shifting shelves to other hidden rooms or tunnels?

Geez, I feel like we're discussing something akin to "Clue" now. :D

Oh and I just also remembered--what about Snape's potion room? Didn't he have a separate room from his classroom to store other potions that Moody/Crouch Jr had "investigated" in GoF? If the classroom is in the dungeons, who knows what else is down there?

Maybe the paintings in the Triwizard room lead into that other dimension that JK was talking about that is revealed in Book 5. Maybe it has to do with the OotP and fighting Voldemort. It could be a secret way to communicate withour Voldemort or Fudge figuring it out.

Essbee, count me in the OotO!!

I like your idea too Moony+, that and the kitchen are my current favorites.

Still sticking with the Triwizard room, but your theory does make sense Moony.

Jaedi, I've sent you your membership details... ;)

Originally posted by mystically_mad (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=374134#post374134))
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Yeah, I bet they do. And the statues and armour and all them. I wonder if Peeves knows.


Peeves!

How much does Peeves know exactly? And about what?!

I think that Peeves probably knows a great number of the secrets of Hogwarts. After all, he'd find it very funny to know things that the teachers didn't. And he's always sneaking around, so he could hear stuff, and who knows how long he's been at Hogwarts - long enough to find out loads of stuff about the castle I should think!

Moony-good thought on the Chamber Pot room! I always thought that would be the room! But if it's magical property is that it gives you what you need at the moment, then it would be very very useful to Harry in the future. It works kind of like the Mirror of Erised, only you don't just see what you desire, you actually get it! Woah--wait, I can see this being a bad thing too. Maybe this will one of the things that reflect the choice between what is right and what is easy?

I'm sure I read somewhere that someone said that JK had told us that we hadn't seen the last of the Mirror of Erised. Maybe it's kept in that room? Or controlling the room somehow?

Hmmmm ..... maybe Dumbledore wasn't just making a reference to the chamberpot room to prove a point ot Karkaroff. Maybe he wanted Harry to know that it still existed. A piece of knowledge that might help him in the future. Maybe it will have to something with Dumbledore telling him everything about his parents and Voldemort etc... (Remember seeing his parents in the mirror...)

Re: Mugglenet's rephrasing.

I can kind of see where they get it from. In order for a room to possess powers that Harry hasn't realised he more or less has to have been there in order to not realise those powers.

I can see where they get it from too.

But if Harry has to have been in it, that let's out the chamber pot room, a major contender.

I still reckon it's the triwizard room.

But he might not have been in it. He's got to know about it to not know about it's magical properties, you can know about things and not have been there. Like Harry knows about Azkaban, but he's never been there (at least we assume not!)

Exactly!
Now if I could just pick a room. I keep coming back to the kitchen. House elves. Food. disgruntledness. Food. Enslavement. Food.

I agree whizbang121. The kitchen is one of those rooms that I think would make sense for absolutely no reason! The chamberpot room is like that too to some people.

and who knows where house elves go when they go home for family reunions?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......................:D

Well I read that theory somewhere on the chamber pot room... so don't give me credit for it. I also think it may be Professor Trelawneys room, because thats where she had the prediction of Voldemort. Also, thats where Harry say Buckbeak getting away (although it was mainly wishful thinking, he may of subconcensley predicted it). Maybe it really does have something to do with telling and future.
Also, as Muse said a few posts back, the cover of the book is circiular and has candles and sort of resembles it.

Still plumbing for the Triz-wizard room.

Place your bets now...

It'll be really funny if it is in book 5, then those of us who were right can start a thread in the book 5 forum saying 'I told you so!'.

Does anyone know how long it's gonna be before we can discuss stuff from book 5 in the main forum?

I'm going for the chamberpot room.:)

Well I guess we definitely know which room she was referring to now.

Umm it could be me.... but a new room in book 4 was the Prefects bathroom could that have anything to do with it?

Originally posted by Essbee (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=383792#post383792))

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I know, I just want to *

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I'm guessing that the room we are talking about in this thread has been revealed in OOTP, and is being discussed at http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=11351 .

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Finally, somewhere we can talk about it.

The only room that would be eligible to be a favourite room would be the room of requirement.

Hey if I were you I would delete that post. You arent allowed to post anything from the OOTP in here.

Hey, Mystically_Mad! Gosh, I've been gone a while again, haven't I?

Anyway, I'd like to say which of us was right... but you know... <grovel> :)

I think it's the room with all the chamber pots. Maybe the room of requirement is that same room.

Yes Hermione_fan, I think so, but I don't think you're allowed to say that... I'd edit it out if I were you so the mods don't get annoyed.