Hippogriff1 July 23rd, 2007, 11:13 pm Was anyone a bit confused about the cover? I based a lot of theories on what I thought was going on there, but it was really at Hogwarts. Harry had the hawthorn wand in one of his hands, but the cover doesn't show that either.
Comments?
Heart July 23rd, 2007, 11:16 pm It was in the Great Hall, the sky was the Great Hall's 'sky' allusion and the people around were the students watching the battle. And I'm guessing it was when Harry reached for the Elder Wand, dropping his own, and caught it with his magical Seeker skills?
Hippogriff1 July 23rd, 2007, 11:22 pm That does make more sense, only the great hall does look more "colosseum-like" than I would imagine it to be.
MarqueeENT July 23rd, 2007, 11:26 pm I guess the Colosseum look was just there to make the battle look epic.
HAVortexDude July 23rd, 2007, 11:33 pm Yea, I definitely didn't expect that to be the Great Hall. The cover was very misleading.
potterposse July 24th, 2007, 1:07 am First I thought it was possibly behind the veil, then well, the great hall...it was cool though. I do like the UK cover a bit more though.
BoJangles27 July 24th, 2007, 1:15 am An idea just struck me....
Before i read the book the cover of the book made me think the deathly hallows was a place... and well i was horribly wrong.
Afterwards i still couldn't figure out what the cover really meant. But I just looked at the picture at the top of the forum of the and thought of something.
Harry and Voldemort both look to be reaching out for something in unison. I just realized that they could be reaching out for the Deathly hallows as in the objects. But i'm still thoroughly confused... any more ideas?
MadMagic July 24th, 2007, 1:17 am You can find the scene depicted on US edition page 743. :)
Sectusempra July 24th, 2007, 1:21 am Isn't it the moment when ThE eLdEr WaNd flies from Voldemort to Harry in the final battle?
DobbyFTW July 24th, 2007, 1:33 am Isn't it the moment when ThE eLdEr WaNd flies from Voldemort to Harry in the final battle?
I think that's what it was supposed to be but if you compare the cover to that part in the book they don't match up very well.
DarwinMayflower July 24th, 2007, 2:01 am To me I felt the cover was almost going to be when Harry was in King's Cross with Dumbledore and Voldemort was going to join them because that was the limbo/afterlife/whatever at the time. When Harry was ready to go to his death, Voldemort is going to be like NO WAI and Harry's going to be YES WAI.
BelleSnowyOwl July 24th, 2007, 2:09 am I’m very confused by the American cover. I have no idea what the curtain-like things are. I still love it, though.
As for the UK cover, on the inside flap – is that supposed to be the silver doe? It isn’t, because it says in the book that the doe doesn’t have antlers – but Harry’s patronus didn’t play an important role in the book.
TheDoorKeeper July 24th, 2007, 2:42 am There are several inconsistencies if the cover is supposed to be the scene where Harry defeats Voldemort. First, on the cover both of Harry's hands are empty, but in the book when he goes to catch the Elder Wand, he uses "free hand," implying that he was still holding onto Draco's wand. Secondly, the Great hall was not in anyway damaged as they had just entered from outside. Lastly, they were completely surrounded by people in a circle, the was no debris littering the ground. I think that as with the curtains, Mary GrandPre added the rubble, archways, and absence of a wand as effects. She wanted to keep the readers guessing as to which scene she was depicting.
Mikalina July 24th, 2007, 2:46 am I thought that it was the great hall. It only looks like it is a colosseum because of the enchanted ceiling showing morning sky. It is when the wand flips from V. to Harry and he is reaching for it.
stunnedtina July 24th, 2007, 2:48 am I believe it's the scene where the Elder Wand flies towards Harry and Harry is reaching out to catch it. It's left Voldemort's hand so therefore his hand is outstretched as well. He hasn't die yet....there are no images of wands in the air but I think that's the deceive us as to what takes place.
I imagined it to be somewhere entirely different from Hogwarts. The sky is the Great Hall....the people standing around is everyone at Hogwarts and so on. So now it makes much more sense to me.
At first after finishing the book I couldn't figure it out. I figured it out today while staring at the book.
TheDoorKeeper I just realized I just wrote out what you said in a different way, when if I had read your post I could have just agreed with you. LOL! I'm terrible about skipping post and not reading everything.
Azimuth July 24th, 2007, 4:03 am As for the British cover, I didn't like it at first, but it's grown on me. I thought that was a very odd choice of scene to use for the cover of the final book though.
HouseStark July 24th, 2007, 4:06 am I think its a symbolic Coliseum, as corny as that sounds. The sky is the enchanted ceiling in the Great Hall. And the Coliseum is Harry's shield charm, so its just Harry and Voldemort alone in the arena, with everyone else as sort of spectators watching them. The exact moment is obviously after the Elder Wand is blasted out of Voldemort's hand.
DreamEscape7 July 24th, 2007, 4:57 am It was in the Great Hall, the sky was the Great Hall's 'sky' allusion and the people around were the students watching the battle. And I'm guessing it was when Harry reached for the Elder Wand, dropping his own, and caught it with his magical Seeker skills?
That explained it for me! Thank you!!! I had no idea what was going on there! I feel stupid . . .
8m57w6 July 24th, 2007, 5:12 am I think Mary GrandPre included the curtains because, if you look at the cover of Sorcerer's Stone, there are curtains on there, as it is the opening, so she included them here, as it is the closing. They're a symbolic type thing
But I agree, when I finished it, at first I had no clue what scene the cover could possibly be. It took me quite a while, well, about a day or so, to finally figure it out, that it was the Great Hall scene. I just pictured it a lot differently in my mind than it was drawn.
koli July 24th, 2007, 5:20 am I don't think that the US DH cover art was misleading. If you look at the Sorcer's Stone cover, Harry is flying through arches outside of Hogwarts. I think they're Mary Grandpre's idea of the gates to Hogwarts. I think that she intentionally put the arches on the first and last book covers. I don't think they're from the great hall.
BelleSnowyOwl July 24th, 2007, 6:12 am I knew right away what the scene was, it's just very misleading.
Keakealani July 24th, 2007, 6:56 am A thought just struck me about the British edition cover art - is there a particular reason why the trio is wearing what appears to be be dress robes? I'm assuming that that scene is when they break into the Lestranges' Gringotts vault to get Hufflepuff's cup, but I don't remember them being dressed specially.
It could just be artists' liberty, though.
Melonhead July 24th, 2007, 4:44 pm That confused me too but when I thought about it for a while I thought that Bellatrix would likely wear very posh things all the time, as would her friends, to show the nobility of their ancestry.
albuseverusmort July 24th, 2007, 5:07 pm My chief question relates to the cover art of the US publication. What does the cover art depict from the novel or have to do with the novel at all?
Thanks,
JC
62442al_Man July 24th, 2007, 5:17 pm I loved the art, even though I dont completely get where the Colosseum comes into play XD.
xambruzzix42 July 24th, 2007, 5:21 pm i've been thinking about the US cover art for the past 2 days, and i've come to the conclusion that harry and voldy are in a destroyed hogwarts, and like koli said, those arches are probably the same ones from the first book.
what i don't entirely understand though is what harry and voldy look like their trying to control. the elder wand? because i don't remember reading anything about them doing so.
dumbleISdead July 24th, 2007, 6:42 pm I don't think that the US DH cover art was misleading. If you look at the Sorcer's Stone cover, Harry is flying through arches outside of Hogwarts. I think they're Mary Grandpre's idea of the gates to Hogwarts. I think that she intentionally put the arches on the first and last book covers. I don't think they're from the great hall.
actually, that is in fact how mary envisions the great hall- i went looking for any of her other art that might have shown the great hall to compare
i finally found something called "christmas in the great hall" - and it does in fact show those arches and columes
http://www.heroicfineart.com/catalog/images/HPChristmas%5B1%5D
Loonyfan93 July 24th, 2007, 7:04 pm Although it is confusing, it is the great hall, as you can tell by the way Voldy and Harry are both reaching out for the wand.
Jonny Boy July 24th, 2007, 7:40 pm When exactly does the scene on the front of the U.S. edition happen. I must have missed something but I can't think of where it was. Also what is the signifigance of the orb with the snake on the British edition?
My mistake. I just discovered the actual thread talking about this. This should be closed.
Lillbet July 24th, 2007, 7:42 pm Now when I look at the US cover I see Voldemort fending off death and Harry able to accept it. Which sounds silly, except that if Voldemort is really cursing Harry I don't see why he'd been leaning back like that. But it's probably just the tussle over the wand.
By the way, am I the only one who read about Hagrid's birthday gift to Harry and said "AHA!"
A thought just struck me about the British edition cover art - is there a particular reason why the trio is wearing what appears to be be dress robes? I'm assuming that that scene is when they break into the Lestranges' Gringotts vault to get Hufflepuff's cup, but I don't remember them being dressed specially.
It could just be artists' liberty, though.
Well, Hermione is masquerading as Bellatrix (who comes from an infamous, proud and wealthy family) and Ron is supposed to be some foreign wizard-type, so it would make sense if they were overdressed a bit. :D
dumbleISdead July 24th, 2007, 11:47 pm When exactly does the scene on the front of the U.S. edition happen. I must have missed something but I can't think of where it was. Also what is the signifigance of the orb with the snake on the British edition?
My mistake. I just discovered the actual thread talking about this. This should be closed.
happnes in american edition page 743 - its as the sun comes up and fills the great hall and the elder wand is flying through the air as harry is catching it
the orb with the snake is exactly that
the protective orb that voldemort put around nagini
xambruzzix42 July 25th, 2007, 5:51 am By the way, am I the only one who read about Hagrid's birthday gift to Harry and said "AHA!"
birthday gift? when was that stated in the book?
thegreatlake July 25th, 2007, 6:57 am I may just be very dim, but I can't figure out what the US cover of Deathly Hallows is depicting... at first I thought it could be the Great Hall, and we're seeing the sky through the ceiling, but I don't know... it also doesn't look like its the Forbidden Forest... so what is it?
freelantzer July 25th, 2007, 7:43 am actually, that is in fact how mary envisions the great hall- i went looking for any of her other art that might have shown the great hall to compare
i finally found something called "christmas in the great hall" - and it does in fact show those arches and columes
http://www.heroicfineart.com/catalog/images/HPChristmas%5B1%5D
Ooooo . . . Nice catch. :wow: Yeah, the arches really threw me off, because that's not how I picture it. And the room looked round-ish or oval while I always pictures the great hall to be rectangular, so that really threw me off, too.
birthday gift? when was that stated in the book?
Hagrid gives Harry the mokeskin pouch at his birthday party at the Burrow.
Pinkerton July 25th, 2007, 7:58 am It looks like a coloseum but I see how it's the great hall. The cover is very epic but a bit.. weird? I'm not so sure about Harry's pose.
Ifink2much July 25th, 2007, 12:09 pm I don't have the us version but from what I saw online I assumed it was the final battle in the great hall.
Chosenoneknux July 25th, 2007, 12:14 pm Its the final battle in the Great Hall, the ceiling is magically charmed remember?
dumbleISdead July 25th, 2007, 4:35 pm I may just be very dim, but I can't figure out what the US cover of Deathly Hallows is depicting... at first I thought it could be the Great Hall, and we're seeing the sky through the ceiling, but I don't know... it also doesn't look like its the Forbidden Forest... so what is it?
it is the great hall- refer to the link of the picture i posted
what doesnt look like the forbidden forest?
RavenEye July 25th, 2007, 9:18 pm A thought just struck me about the British edition cover art - is there a particular reason why the trio is wearing what appears to be be dress robes? I'm assuming that that scene is when they break into the Lestranges' Gringotts vault to get Hufflepuff's cup, but I don't remember them being dressed specially.
It could just be artists' liberty, though.
Ron and Hermione were wearing old robes they'd found at Grimmauld Place: I imagine the Blacks would like relatively ornate robes even for day to day wear.
I want to know why Harry isn't holding the hawthorn wand on the US cover.
asherj123 July 25th, 2007, 10:04 pm anyone got like a pic of it, the symbol xeno lovegood had round his neck?
MadMagic July 25th, 2007, 10:15 pm You can see the sign on the spine of the UK children's edition of the book. (here (http://www.bloomsbury.com/media/hp7childrens_high_complete.jpg))
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v48/digapony/HALLOWS.jpg
BelleSnowyOwl July 25th, 2007, 10:20 pm Here's just the symbol, because I know the full image MadMagic linked to take ages to load for me! :D
http://img443.imageshack.us/img443/9117/symbolac6.jpg
Harrysahorcrux July 26th, 2007, 2:17 pm I guess the Colosseum look was just there to make the battle look epic.
and dont forget that Hogwarts is practically in ruins!(at least in the great hall)
marcy555 July 26th, 2007, 8:31 pm I can't figure out what scene the American version of the DH cover art is depicting. There was no scene that Harry and Voldemort were together and wandless except for the forest. And none with that huge audience (if that's what it is), outside in the dusk with Harry upright. Am I forgetting something?
OWL_invidulator July 26th, 2007, 10:24 pm i understand the illustration of the uk front cover, the US cover can someone tell me which part of the story is the setting and what is happening
dumbleISdead July 27th, 2007, 3:40 am the US cover is showing page 743( of the US version obv) - when the sun fills the great hall and voldemort is disarmed of the elder wand and harry goes to catch it
the large audience is just that -everyone that is watching the final duel
it is in fact the great hall, and just appears to look colleseum like because that is how Mary depicts the great hall - i found this other image that appeared on a calendar i believe - and it has the same pillars and arches
http://www.heroicfineart.com/catalog/images/HPChristmas%5B1%5D
xambruzzix42 July 27th, 2007, 5:43 am Hagrid gives Harry the mokeskin pouch at his birthday party at the Burrow.
oh yeah, totally forgot about that. hahah. thankss.
h0rcruxhunter July 27th, 2007, 1:55 pm On the Deathly Hallows book cover, Harry's eyes are blue, not green! This must have been a deliberate mistake, seeing as how it's been around too long to get it wrong now.
Queen_Princess July 27th, 2007, 4:27 pm I noticed that to on the Americon version and on the British/Canadian version his eyes are brown
lunagranger July 27th, 2007, 5:21 pm yup..I noticed the brown eyes in the british version
jen68 July 27th, 2007, 6:44 pm i think on the american version they ARE green, but more a muddled hazel color that can look brown. i just took the cover out into the sunlight. lol
PuFFindoR July 27th, 2007, 11:39 pm His eyes look green to me on the American version, not blue. It could depend on the lighting in your room ...
capella_black July 28th, 2007, 1:18 am They do look a bit blue, now that you mention it, but I'll give the artist/publishers the benefit of a doubt and assume they meant it as green.
jkmonkey28 July 28th, 2007, 2:15 am I think it depends onm the lighting, in most of my house they do look more blue than anything but in my bathroom (recently updated with great lighting) they do look a bit more green but not much.
BelleSnowyOwl July 28th, 2007, 2:47 am Because I'm bored right now and have nothing better to do ...
The American eyes are green, but they're different shades of green :p (remember, though, that they're not meant to be looked at this close)
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7694/americaneyesvz7.jpg
The UK eyes are definitely brown.
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2637/ukeyeszj8.jpg
dscuber9000 July 28th, 2007, 2:50 am After all this time that JK Rowling told us that Harry's green eyes were very important, and the cover of the book doesn't even get it right. :D
Kidney Pie July 28th, 2007, 2:56 am There was a moment after Harry got Mad Eye's Eye and buried it in the forest that I thought he might go back and get it. Because I thought one of his eyes looked blue on the cover and the other looked green. I was thinking that something might happen to make him lose an eye and then he'd go and get that eye. I was thinking it would be so weird. I am glad that didn't happen.
PuFFindoR July 28th, 2007, 3:01 am There was a moment after Harry got Mad Eye's Eye and buried it in the forest that I thought he might go back and get it. Because I thought one of his eyes looked blue on the cover and the other looked green. I was thinking that something might happen to make him lose an eye and then he'd go and get that eye. I was thinking it would be so weird. I am glad that didn't happen.
Wow! lol... You really put a lot of thought into the colours of the eyes on the cover!!
Saiorri July 28th, 2007, 7:18 am Honestly, I can't tell what color Harry's eyes are. I have the American edition, and at first glance, they look blue, but could very well be green, but my room isn't very lit anyways. As was said above, I think they are ultimately green, but because the cover is such earth colors around it, they could very well be green and we can't see. :)
Hogwarts Lake July 28th, 2007, 9:05 am There was a moment after Harry got Mad Eye's Eye and buried it in the forest that I thought he might go back and get it. Because I thought one of his eyes looked blue on the cover and the other looked green. I was thinking that something might happen to make him lose an eye and then he'd go and get that eye. I was thinking it would be so weird. I am glad that didn't happen.
ROFL!:lol:
Why didn't Jo say anything about the UK edition? I think the US one could pass for green...
Melonhead July 28th, 2007, 11:11 am There was a moment after Harry got Mad Eye's Eye and buried it in the forest that I thought he might go back and get it. Because I thought one of his eyes looked blue on the cover and the other looked green. I was thinking that something might happen to make him lose an eye and then he'd go and get that eye. I was thinking it would be so weird. I am glad that didn't happen.
Now I look at it they do look different colours. I would say it is more different greens than green and blue but that could just be the colour settings on my screen.
YellowRose July 28th, 2007, 11:14 am If it's dark, light eyes can become so aswell...Harry was many feet underground at the time of the UK cover. Perhaps his eyes were reflecting the heated treasure?
LeanneJO July 28th, 2007, 12:09 pm Yeah I think that would be the case, they wouldn't make a mistake like that on the cover!
Ressurected July 28th, 2007, 1:01 pm I've got the adult version so there's no way I would have noticed it :P Unless I'd actually looked properly at the blown-up version in the store I got it from lol.
Harsh_Potter July 28th, 2007, 6:46 pm The UK cover definitely has a Harry with brown eyes but as someone said, it might be because of the reflected heat, not to mention all the gold there.
The US cover has a green eyed Harry, there's no question about it! That is definitely green, IMO!
cheer_2007 July 28th, 2007, 8:45 pm Yep,
The US Cover is a green-eyed Harry.
The UK Cover is a brown-eyed Harry.
Oh Well, everybody makes mistakes!
LSUJacq July 28th, 2007, 8:47 pm I have two copies and they both look green to me.
DobbyFTW July 28th, 2007, 9:17 pm green to me also
Edokun July 28th, 2007, 11:30 pm This is just something interesting that I noticed when my copy of the book arrived (raincoast/bloomsbury children's edition). Obviously the scene is meant to show the trio raiding Gringott's, and it looks like they've spilled out of the circular entranceway, as though riding a chute. After noting that, the entranceway, by my count, should have enough stones for me to sketch in the symbols used on the Stargate. :)
olivegirlac July 29th, 2007, 12:48 am This was the first time that I liked the UK cover better than the US one! Now that I have read DH I find the US cover to be a bit misleading. The cover does make sense but I really had to think about what part of the book it was illistrating.
Melonhead July 29th, 2007, 9:06 am Oh yeah I can see how the US cover would work as the great hall. Lol I thought they were in arabia because of the curtains and voldies robes.
Necrovir July 29th, 2007, 9:47 am Okay, what I think is that Rita Skeeter showed up ready to write an article on the winner of the epic battle that was taking place. When she got there, she was a little confused as to what was going on. So she asks "Excuse me, but which one of you is going to win this fight?" and Voldemort and Harry have both raised their hands because they both think that they're going to win.
But that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Snapes_Girl July 30th, 2007, 1:42 am The cover art, to me, looked as if it were in the area of the Department of Mysteries where the veil was located. However, I know better now after reading the book. It was somewhat confusing as first, but I still like it.
Aristali July 30th, 2007, 4:20 am It was only after I finished Deathly Hallows that I realized that i had no idea what the cover was supposed to be showing. Before the book was released, I thought it was within the veil, but clearly its not. I re-read the end and i thought it was showing Voldemort moments after he had been killed once again by the rebounding curse. Harry would be reaching for the Elder Wand, and Tom is falling back, dead.
But i just read that paragraph again. It says Harry held both wands-- not just the Elder Wand-- but his (Draco's) also. So unless Grandpre made a mistake or purposely mis-drew, the cover is not showing the duel in the Great Hall, because Harry is wandless.
But where are they? What is the oval room? Why are the two wearing the same cloaks? What is going on? My mom is reading the book now, so I cant ask her what it is. Someone please show me what i missed!
Phoebe July 30th, 2007, 8:37 am But i just read that paragraph again. It says Harry held both wands-- not just the Elder Wand-- but his (Draco's) also. So unless Grandpre made a mistake or purposely mis-drew, the cover is not showing the duel in the Great Hall, because Harry is wandless.
But where are they? What is the oval room? Why are the two wearing the same cloaks? What is going on? My mom is reading the book now, so I cant ask her what it is. Someone please show me what i missed!
You were right. It's when Voldemort is hit by the rebounding AK curse and Harry is reaching up for the Elder Wand. If she had drawn in Draco's wand, it would have given too much away because Harry would have a wand and Voldemort wouldn't. They are in the Great Hall. While this isn't how many people pictured the Great Hall, it's how GrandPre pictured it.
smartguy0803 August 2nd, 2007, 1:27 am I dont know about you all, but for some reason it appears to me that the scene on the front of the US edition didnt happen anywhere in the book... that scene produced so many theories but it never surfaced... am i missing something?
Phil_Stone August 2nd, 2007, 6:14 am Months ago I thought Voldemort was moving away from what Harry was reaching for. Now it seems he is actually falling because the AK has rebounded and killed him. Voldemort is wandless becasue Harry's "Expilaramus", combined with the charms of the Elder wand have drawn it from his grasp, and it is flying (off the page) into Harry's reaching grasp.
The problem is that on the book cover, as opposed to the picture at the top of this page, Harry's other hand is clearly empty, while the book is pretty clear that he didn't drop one wand to chase the other. It wopuld appear to be a mistake that both of Harry's hands are visible.
ginnyluv August 2nd, 2007, 10:23 am That does make more sense, only the great hall does look more "colosseum-like" than I would imagine it to be.
AWESOME topic!! Because i don't get the cover art either it does look like a coloseum NOT the Great Hall despite the magical ceiling, and neither of them have their wands... and if this is supposed to be the moment when harry catches the wand shouldn't Voldemort be being blasted by his own curse???
Cormac August 2nd, 2007, 11:12 am I thought the cover was good as it kept the reader guessing and didn't give away too much about the book in itself.
mustique August 3rd, 2007, 6:06 am With the US edition hardcovers for all 7 books, is the cover art only on the dust jacket, or are they also printed on the hardcover as well? Or is the hardcover (without the dust jacket) blank?
Pigleto972001 August 3rd, 2007, 7:01 am i thought also that the cover was depicting the moment when voldie has been struck with the AK and is starting to fall backwards. his arms are out due to the impact of the curse and also the wand had flown out of his hand.
i thought it was strange that harry didn't have the wand in his hand but i took it to be artistic license...what did we ever decide about the US cover of HBP and dumbledore's hand being whole on the cover? i remember we discussed it back then...
ginnyluv August 3rd, 2007, 8:55 am i thought also that the cover was depicting the moment when voldie has been struck with the AK and is starting to fall backwards. his arms are out due to the impact of the curse and also the wand had flown out of his hand.
i thought it was strange that harry didn't have the wand in his hand but i took it to be artistic license...what did we ever decide about the US cover of HBP and dumbledore's hand being whole on the cover? i remember we discussed it back then...
that can'y be it because voldemort would be covered in green light right??
BublGumPnkHar August 3rd, 2007, 1:16 pm With the US edition hardcovers for all 7 books, is the cover art only on the dust jacket, or are they also printed on the hardcover as well? Or is the hardcover (without the dust jacket) blank?
Only the dust jacket has the art. The hardcover surface is an embossed diamond pattern. Different colors for different years. DH - sage green, HBP - purple, OOP - blue, GOF - rose, etc.
SusanBones August 3rd, 2007, 3:15 pm Was anyone a bit confused about the cover? I based a lot of theories on what I thought was going on there, but it was really at Hogwarts. Harry had the hawthorn wand in one of his hands, but the cover doesn't show that either.
Comments? I also had a lot of trouble trying to figure out what the cover meant once I had read the story. At first I thought that Harry being wandless meant it was the scene when he walked into the forest, ready to be killed by Voldemort. But then I realized that it wasn't that scene at all. Harry being wandless was a little confusing, because in the Great Hall scene, he still had Draco's wand. Maybe the artist was using a bit of creative license to tell us that Harry faced Voldemort wandless, at one point, but then combined it with the fact the Harry was about to catch the Elder Wand at the end, when he finally vanquished Voldemort.
dumbleISdead August 3rd, 2007, 3:37 pm i dont understand why noone can figure it out
i knew what it was the minute that they said the sun filled the great hall with red and gold light
its the momen that AK rebounds upon voldemort and the elder wand flys through the air
all the students and teachers etc etc are watching them
i think the reason most people dont realize what it is, is because the great hall doesnt look like most imagined it
however, that is simply how Mary Grandre envisions the great hall
after i finished the book i quickly researched to see if Mary did any other depictions of the great hall
and i did find one,
http://www.cel-ebration.com/HARRY-POTTER-XMAS-in-Grt-Hall.jpg
no_seatbelt August 3rd, 2007, 4:05 pm It is an odd picture, mainly because I always imagined the great hall to be a large rectangular room which was all stone walls, flagstone floors and very simply chunky wooden benches and tables... almost like a traditional church, very simple, nothing ornate. And also the curtains are a bit of a puzzle, and the fact that everyone watching looks like they should be a death eater.
I always prefer UK covers though, even if the gringotts scene is a bit of an odd one to put up... as good as any though, and it doesn't give anything away. I agree that it would probably be more fitting to put the doe patronus on the inside sleeve instead of Harry's stag but he does use it an awful lot on the book and he does worry a lot about how people will know he cast it because everyone knows his is a stag.
dumbleISdead August 3rd, 2007, 4:54 pm the sole purpose of the curtains was because Mary wanted the book 1 and book 7 covers to be connected
she said in an interview that she took the curtains from the first book, and put them on the last book
pandabear18788 August 3rd, 2007, 8:13 pm I knew which scene the cover was depicting right after I read the scene in the Great Hall... it was the only scene in the entire book that was described close enough for it to work. Although, like everyone else here, it still does not look like the Great Hall to me. I've always pictured the Great Hall to look like it does in the movies (even before I saw Socerer's Stone), and JKR said that walking into the Great Hall movie set was like walking into her own head. :)
I was sort of upset about the US cover after reading the book. Sure, it's a great piece of art, but it just seems to completely misleading. Like the original poster, I had based a lot of my speculation on what could happen in the books from the four different covers (US, US Deluxe, UK Children's, and UK Adult)... and the one that I like the best, in retrospect, is the UK Children's cover. It depicts a scene without being misleading, regardless of whether or not it is the best scene to put on the cover of the last book. My second favorite is probably the US Deluxe because it is pretty true to a scene described in the book... and that was probably my favorite scene in the whole book. The comes the UK Adult (Slytherin's locket really can't go wrong), and finally the US regular.
But yeah, the US cover was incredibly misleading and a huge disappointment to me. :shrug:
Pigleto972001 August 3rd, 2007, 8:25 pm that can'y be it because voldemort would be covered in green light right??
good point, however, i guess that would give it away...the problem with the cover is that harry is not holding a wand and that there is no visual representation of the spells.
i like the deluxe cover as well, with the dragon and the trio riding it.
Drazer August 3rd, 2007, 8:35 pm The cover works well. It doesn't show spoilers. If harry had had a wand in his hands and Voldermort didn't, or the flash of green light was shown, then it would have run the risk of misleading people who have not read the book.
Night_Sky August 3rd, 2007, 8:47 pm The hard cover without the jacket blank? Yes. I have both hard covers the deluxe edition and other. It looks like Harrys eye are green to me. I thought it the cover was the great hall. I liked the cover. I think it shows what it needed too. You would not want it to tell the whole story.I would like to have as uk copy. But I would like to have a uk copy of all the books. I think that is what I will do next. That way I can have all of them too. But I do like the uk covers better.
Pigleto972001 August 3rd, 2007, 8:50 pm i like the US cover too, better than the UK one...i agree that she didn't want to give anything away. the cover as it is, is fine...there was quite a bit of speculation about what the cover meant when it was released prior to the book.
i like the cover more now b/c my mom went to a convention where scholastic was and got me a harry potter canvas bag. on one side is voldie from the cover, on the other is harry.
avishenoy August 3rd, 2007, 9:03 pm I knew the scene was in the great hall after I read it. You can clearly see the circle of people around Harry and Voldy,
Voldy looks like he's falling back and his robes sort of blend into the ground almost as if he's sinking in, (going to hell maybe?)
and Harry is reaching up for the wand.
I liked how the fold ins of the jacket are absent of reviews/summaries/bios like they have been for the last 6, sort of fitting for the last book.
And people, the US covers are sooooo much better than the UK covers, I like how Mary Grandpre uses the full spread to make one image and the DH UK cover was so childish and just totally took away from the epic nature of the book.
dumbleISdead August 3rd, 2007, 9:49 pm guys i dont think its a HUGE deal that Harry isnt holding Draco's wand
similar to how on the OOTP cover the doors in the circular room shouldnt be open, and now Dumblys hand isnt blackened and shriveled and dead lookin on the HBP cover and how the scene on the back cover of HBP never takes place
if anything, i think there are more inconsistencies on the UK childrens cover than the US
for example, there is no archway with a sunset in it in the gringotts vault, and that exact scene never happens
i do understand that many people dont understand why the great hall was drawn like that, but as shown in the link i posted above, thats just how Mary envisions the great hall
avishenoy August 3rd, 2007, 9:56 pm I have a question, on the Deathly Hallows cover and other covers, Harry appears to have brown hair, also, in the movies and on the covers of the movies, Daniel Radcliffe has brown hair as well, it is dark brown but brown nonetheless brown. I distinctly remember Harry's hair being described as jet black and very messy in the first book, am I wrong here or are Mary Grandpre and the movie directors just using their artistic leeway?
pandabear18788 August 3rd, 2007, 9:59 pm if anything, i think there are more inconsistencies on the UK childrens cover than the US
for example, there is no archway with a sunset in it in the gringotts vault, and that exact scene never happens
Why does it have to be a sunset? It could easily be all of the treasure in the background, artistically blurred together. People only thought that it was a sunset because it's the same orange color as the sunrise on the US cover... So I don't really see what the huge inconsistencies are with the UK Children's cover.
Snape_is_a_stud August 3rd, 2007, 10:01 pm i think the us front cover was very deciving. And didn't match my idea of what the final battle looked like when i read it. i imagined them fighting in the great hall but i could imagin all the stain glass windows in the back ground with light streamin thru. The sky (ceiling) was never really described in the scene so i thought it odd that it was the front cover when it hadn't been mentioned.
dumbleISdead August 3rd, 2007, 10:07 pm Why does it have to be a sunset? It could easily be all of the treasure in the background, artistically blurred together. People only thought that it was a sunset because it's the same orange color as the sunrise on the US cover... So I don't really see what the huge inconsistencies are with the UK Children's cover.
i am looking at the cover righ tnow, and i dont really see how it could be the treasure.....
at any rate, i didnt say that the UK cover had huge inconsistencies - i was just pointing out that all the covers are small inconsistencies and everyone just seems to be pointing out that the US cover is terribly inconsistent due to the absence of draco's wand
i think the us front cover was very deciving. And didn't match my idea of what the final battle looked like when i read it. i imagined them fighting in the great hall but i could imagin all the stain glass windows in the back ground with light streamin thru. The sky (ceiling) was never really described in the scene so i thought it odd that it was the front cover when it hadn't been mentioned.
are they stained glass windows?
i dont recall them being stained glass windows, but i could be wrong- i havnt read the first book in a while
anyways, i dont really find it odd that the sky was on the front cover like that even though it wasnt mentioned- i figured that if the red and gold sky was flooding the windows, it would make sense that it also was spread across the enchanted celing
but as i stated before - i doubt she made it decieving on purpose, as the link i posted above shows a similair looking great hall
Snape_is_a_stud August 3rd, 2007, 10:11 pm on the uk cover isn't the red/orange in the background the fire from the dragon type thing?
dumbleISdead August 3rd, 2007, 10:13 pm on the uk cover isn't the red/orange in the background the fire from the dragon type thing?
i guess it could be - but the whole archway throws me off
Snape_is_a_stud August 3rd, 2007, 10:16 pm i guess it could be - but the whole archway throws me off
i'm not sayin this just cos i'm from the UK but i do prefer the UK cover to the US (just my opinon)
dumbleISdead August 3rd, 2007, 10:18 pm oo i have nothing against the UK covers
i just like the US ones better than the UK ones for books 1-5
6 and 7 tie for UK and US IMO
Snape_is_a_stud August 3rd, 2007, 10:25 pm oo i have nothing against the UK covers
i just like the US ones better than the UK ones for books 1-5
6 and 7 tie for UK and US IMO
to be honest i can't remember book 1-6 us verision cover, i mean like i've seen them but i've totally forgotten what they look like. What do you think to the chpater art?
ginnyluv August 4th, 2007, 8:40 am good point, however, i guess that would give it away...the problem with the cover is that harry is not holding a wand and that there is no visual representation of the spells.
i like the deluxe cover as well, with the dragon and the trio riding it.
thank you , because it just is not how i pictured that part ..isn'tthat moment instant?? voldemort is hit by the curse and harry and reaching for the wand but in the cover art its too tame looking as well as voldemort not having green light all over him..but if thats what the cover is..... very well i like her work i just wish it matched the part in the scene more ...with out spoilers of course so mabye she could have done them circling each other that was a great moment also
pandabear18788 August 4th, 2007, 9:01 am thank you , because it just is not how i pictured that part ..isn'tthat moment instant?? voldemort is hit by the curse and harry and reaching for the wand but in the cover art its too tame looking as well as voldemort not having green light all over him..but if thats what the cover is..... very well i like her work i just wish it matched the part in the scene more ...with out spoilers of course so mabye she could have done them circling each other that was a great moment also
I don't understand why Voldemort would have to be covered in green light. I guess that I just always pictured curses as being jets of light until they hit the person, and then the light would be gone but the person would be effected by whatever the curse was.
Also, I don't understand why this scene can't be in the split second before Voldemort is hit by his own AK, from a perspective that would not show the curses meeting in mid-air. Here's the passage from the book:
A red-glow burst suddenly across the enchanted sky above them as an edge of dazzling sun appeared over the sill of the nearest window. The light hit both of their faces at the same time, so that Voldemort's was suddenly a flaming blur. Harry heard the high voice shriek as he too yelled his best hope to the heavens, pointing Draco's wand:
"Avada Kedavra!"
"Expelliarmus!"
The bang was like a cannon blast, and the golden flames that erupted between them, at the dead center of the circle they had been treading, marked the point where the spells collided. Harry say Voldemort's green jet meet his own spell, saw the Elder Wand fly high, dark against the sunrise, spinning across the enchanted ceiling like the head of Nagini, spinning through the air toward the master it would not kill, who had some to take full possession of it at last. And Harry, with the unerring skill of the Seeker, caught the wand in his free hand as Voldemort fell backward, arms splayed, the slit pupils of the scarlet eyes rolling upward. Tom Riddle hit the floor with a mundane finality, his body feeble and shrunken, the white hands empty, the snakelike face vacant and unknowing. Voldemort was dead, killed by his own rebounding curse, and Harry stood with two wands in his hand, staring down at his enemy's shell.DH, Chapter 36, page 743 of the US edition
missypotter August 14th, 2007, 1:00 am Now the book is out and we know everything, I have to say I still don't get the US book cover. All of the other book covers have made sense to me after I read the book, but this one still is a mystery. I get they are in the great hall and people are all watching. I don't get the sky, or what they are looking at. I also don't get the curtains. It just doesn't seem clear cut like the other covers.
dobbysocks August 14th, 2007, 1:16 am Agreed, the cover didn't make a lot of sense. On the UK cover if that is the doe on the flap, why does it have antlers?
dumbleISdead August 19th, 2007, 5:25 pm Now the book is out and we know everything, I have to say I still don't get the US book cover. All of the other book covers have made sense to me after I read the book, but this one still is a mystery. I get they are in the great hall and people are all watching. I don't get the sky, or what they are looking at. I also don't get the curtains. It just doesn't seem clear cut like the other covers.
whats wrong with the sky? its the ceiling thats enchanted to look like the sky
they also arent looking at anything
harry is reaching for the elder wand and voldemort is essentially in the process of dying
the curtrains were just put there to mirror the curtains from the first book cover
the cover really does annoy me though
its absolulty beautifal artwork, however i dont like at all how the great hall is envisioned
i always assumed it was a rectangular room
not circular, and i pictured the ceiling to look more like that of the movies great hall ceiling
the only reason it annoys me is because from the cover i thought the setting looked really interesting, but it just turned out to be the great hall
its dissapointing though that i never pictured the great hall to look anything like that, because all of mary's looking drawings and covers look just as i imagined them too
does that make sense?
Agreed, the cover didn't make a lot of sense. On the UK cover if that is the doe on the flap, why does it have antlers?
its depicting the stag....not the doe
tough putting the doe there would prob make more sense
BublGumPnkHar August 19th, 2007, 6:01 pm whats wrong with the sky? its the ceiling thats enchanted to look like the sky
they also arent looking at anything
harry is reaching for the elder wand and voldemort is essentially in the process of dying
the curtrains were just put there to mirror the curtains from the first book cover
the cover really does annoy me though
its absolulty beautifal artwork, however i dont like at all how the great hall is envisioned
i always assumed it was a rectangular room
not circular, and i pictured the ceiling to look more like that of the movies great hall ceiling
the only reason it annoys me is because from the cover i thought the setting looked really interesting, but it just turned out to be the great hall
its dissapointing though that i never pictured the great hall to look anything like that, because all of mary's looking drawings and covers look just as i imagined them too
does that make sense?
its depicting the stag....not the doe
tough putting the doe there would prob make more sense
Mary has drawn the Great Hall like that before. It's usually displayed on the CoS forums Christmas skin which is not available right now.
Why should it be the doe? This is Harry's story - he used his patronus a lot in this book (compared to the other books). Even Aberforth had to cover for him in Hogsmeade -- convincing the DEs they had seen his goat patronus. :whistle:
skedaddle August 19th, 2007, 6:52 pm I didn't get the cover at all.
It was weird because I saw the cover way before I read the book and I was so excited to find out what it was, just like every other cover art is a specific scene, but then when I read the book, I was so excited to read the book, and the cover kinda just fit the mood of the book that I didn't really notice that I couldn't figure out what scene it was. The book and the cover went hand in hand for me, no matter if it was a specific part or not.
Leon_Lionheart August 19th, 2007, 10:48 pm The U.S. cover art was obvious to me once I read the book, and I didn't care enough about it to speculate prior to the book's release (this is all part of my "let come what may" attitude, you know--I hardly did any speculating at all). I liked the art, though--it looked good. And once I saw the full jacket art, I noted a touch I particularly liked: the curtains. Those, together with Harry's pose, make for an interesting "mirror" of the U.S. jacket art for the first book. It's like saying the curtains opened then, they close now. Nice touch, that.
I don't so much mind the flaws in the art: the lack of the hawthorne want being one, the fact that Voldemort should be in a sort of blasted-backward pose with his eyes rolled up being another. That stuff's neither here nor there. The art looks fine to me, and that's all I care about.
dumbleISdead August 19th, 2007, 11:54 pm Mary has drawn the Great Hall like that before. It's usually displayed on the CoS forums Christmas skin which is not available right now.
Why should it be the doe? This is Harry's story - he used his patronus a lot in this book (compared to the other books). Even Aberforth had to cover for him in Hogsmeade -- convincing the DEs they had seen his goat patronus. :whistle:
i know shes drawn it before
on this thread i posted a link to the drawing
its just that i never pictured it looking like that at all, but i went back and reread the first time that harry enters the great hall, and its not extremely descriptive, so i guess its very possible that it could in fact be an elliptical shaped room
i have nothing against the art at all, its absolutely beautiful, its just that its annoys me that it doesnt look like the great hall should to me(but thats my own problems of OCD)
piece_of_soul August 20th, 2007, 3:01 am i reckon the UK adult is the most accurate because they really did put the locket on the stone etc. The uk is also fairly accurate except Harry isnt holding the cup and in the book as they get sucked out he is.
dumbleISdead August 20th, 2007, 5:05 am as nice as the artwork is
i feel like there couldve been better ideas for the cover art
i would love to see marys depiction of gringotts
as well as the battle of hogwarts(though i imagine it would be pretty hard to make that into a nice cover)
or i think that when harry goes to voldemort in the forest couldve made for a nice cover
(i just actually realy really want to see more of marys work)
tabygrint August 20th, 2007, 2:17 pm Yea, the cover threw me off. I thought Harry and Voldemort were gonna have an all-out dance-off in the Collisseum.
winky123 August 25th, 2007, 5:54 am So now that you've read the story do you think the cover of the book, both UK and US edition, match well to the story? What would you rate it 1 through 10?
Also kind of an extension to this, does anyone know what scene the cover of the US edition is from?
NoNEWTS August 25th, 2007, 6:12 pm I saw three covers before the book: The duel scene, the vault scene, and riding on the dragon.
I thought the vault picture looked like a comic book or fan fiction so didn't take it seriously until a week before the release. When I saw them on the dragon, I wished I had seen that months earlier. As for the duel, on the one hand it is clearly in error over the shape of the room and Harry not having a wand in his hand. On the other hand it is clever that you can't tell if Voldemort is rushing to grab something before Harry gets it or is falling backwards. I thought the former. I didn't know what a "hallows" was, but definetely the ampitheater-shape left me thinking of Albania and whether it had ruins from the ancient Greek city states.
In any case the previous book covers were reversed: Harry was left handed, Dumbledore's right hand was intact, and I think Moody has his magical eye in the wrong socket. Also, Fleur was too short. So you'll forgive me if I don't think the artist is all that fantastic.
LudwigVan August 25th, 2007, 8:52 pm I didn't get the point on the DH cover. Where is it? Why people love it?, it's almost empty. I prefer the UK ones, they are more sober and well draw, IMO. I just don't like GrandPre's style, it's easy drawing and I just don't like it. Furthermore the US edition it's way too big and I really doon't like pictures in a book. But please don't yell at me, it's just my opinion.
johncna August 25th, 2007, 9:54 pm I thought that it was the Death Chamber in the DOM because is matches the description. And I though the curtain things on the side were the flaps on the veil or something
dumbleISdead August 25th, 2007, 10:15 pm shes not necessarily "in error" drawing the great hall as being elliptical as it really isnt ever said that it is a rectangle, and mary has drawn the great hall before that looks very similiar to the cover of DH
i was just dissapointed that the "ruins" was just the great hall
now how i pictured the great hall
at any rate, i still dont understand why so many people dont realize what the cover is showing.....if the people in the background didnt give it away, i thought that the orange sky would have for sure
Ebola27 December 30th, 2007, 10:22 am Bellatrix should have been on them both, just, a picture of her with the twin's head, yaaaaaa
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