SPOILERS: So, who has seen OotP?

I can't believe I'm the only member of CoS who has seen OotP. C'mon folks, let's get discussing. What did we think? Favourite parts? Strengths, weaknesses etc?

I'm interested in discussing the film with fans. :D

You have seen OotP? :wow: How was it? Better than the previous four?

I'd say it's definitely the best film so far. I really thought it was great. I didn't like any of the four previous films (PoA was quite good, GoF was a bit meh), but I really thought this one hit every note. The direction and scripting were spot on. The acting is improving, verging on good (Watson is still a bit frantic in parts).

I did avoid a lot of the hype, though, and went in not expecting a great deal. I think this probably had a lot to do with my enjoyment of it.

:clap: I am getting more and more excited for this movie, but trying not to get my hopes up too high!

Were the new actors excellent? Umbridge, Luna, Tonks.. And oh, how was the whole Sirius veil death scene?

(Sorry for all the questions. I am very excited. :lol:)

Imelda Staunton is amazing. Her characterisation of Umbridge is spot on. Tonks is barely in it (she's in, maybe three scenes?) and doesn't have much dialogue; Luna is really, really good (especially considering the girl has never acted before).

The death scene was interesting. The final battle in the Ministry was not as long as I would have liked. Plus, they clarified Sirius's death -- Bellatrix Avada Kedavras him; you see him die; and then fall back through the "veil". In the film, however, the veil isn't a veil, it's sort of a see-through film thing. It's very effective though. Much creepier than drapery.

Hurray for Imelda and Evanna!

Bellatrix AKs him?! :upset: I was kind of worried they'd do that. Ah, I am so glad they have the veil in there though!

Is Grawp in there? How was the Pensieve scene with the Marauders? Thank you for answering all these questions. :D

Grawp is in it and he's fine. He's quite lovely, really. The one thing that did disappoint me in OotP was the CGI -- it seemed to amateurish compared to a lot of other films I've seen recently. The Howler in the beginning was so pathetically fake. Grawp is a definite improvement to the troll in PS and he comes in handy towards the end, but he's not in it that much.

Bellatrix Avada Kedavra-ing Sirius works well. It eliminates the obscurity of his death. Plus Gary Oldman does a nice die. Still, I would have liked the battle to have gone on for a while longer.

Snape doesn't use a Pensieve in the film -- Harry just invades his mind through the power of Legilimency. The scene with the Marauders is really quick, but the point is made -- James was an arse.

Sounds good. Seems like they used time very well this time, or at least tried to, so I hope it was worth it.

Do we see a lot of Neville? More importantly, is the Mungo's hospital scene with the Longbottoms in there? *twitches*

Plus, they clarified Sirius's death -- Bellatrix Avada Kedavras him; you see him die; and then fall back through the "veil". In the film, however, the veil isn't a veil, it's sort of a see-through film thing. It's very effective though. Much creepier than drapery.

So we can take that for canon that Bella Avada Kedavras him and it wasn't just a stunner? :huh:

Hmm ok tell me how it opens like the wb logo, the title, color scheme, presentation and what we see like in the minute after. Sorry, i like to know how it opens i'm just intrested!

So we can take that for canon that Bella Avada Kedavras him and it wasn't just a stunner? :huh:

I don't think Jo thought of it to be too important or else she would have clarified it (either in the books or asked the movie people to change it?). :shrug: I was hoping Bellatrix wouldn't AK him .. but I guess it does not matter.

Well, Bella AKing him FINALLY silences all the people who insist Sirius is still alive! YAAAY! (There's no way JKR would have let them get away with putting that in if he was still alive).

2 days....curse you lucky Brits...

Do we see a lot of Neville? More importantly, is the Mungo's hospital scene with the Longbottoms in there? *twitches*
There's quite a bit of Neville. No St Mungo's though. I can understand why it was taken out. Neville explains what happens to his parents in the film and it's all very clear who did what. Plus we see a picture of Frank and Alice in the original Order. It's quite poignant, really. And sad.


: So we can take that for canon that Bella Avada Kedavras him and it wasn't just a stunner?
Remember films are a visual medium that are limited by time. Yates and Goldenberg obviously wanted to make it very clear that Sirius was DEAD, as opposed to sucked into another dimension or "alive" on the other side of the veil. I'm sure they ran it past JKR who approved. It's a very minor difference to the book.

Hmm ok tell me how it opens like the wb logo, the title, color scheme, presentation and what we see like in the minute after. Sorry, i like to know how it opens i'm just intrested!
The colour scheme is steely grey. The camera zooms through the WB logo (as it has in the past) and focuses on a bright orb-like object (is it the prophecy?) that turns out to be the sun. The first couple of minutes involve several nicely framed shots through long grass of Harry walking along a parched path to a playground.

The colour scheme is steely grey. The camera zooms through the WB logo (as it has in the past) and focuses on a bright orb-like object (is it the prophecy?) that turns out to be the sun. The first couple of minutes involve several nicely framed shots through long grass of Harry walking along a parched path to a playground.

Nice, I thought GoF was terrible in terms of cinematography compared to PoA.

Mind you, I thought everything was terrible about GoF...

Oh I am so happy they included the Longbottoms story!

What did you think about the duel between Voldemort and Dumbledore? Was that bit short/fast too?

Do we see Dobby? Or does someone else suggest the Room of Requirement for the DA?

What did you think about the duel between Voldemort and Dumbledore? Was that bit short/fast too? Do we see Dobby? Or does someone else suggest the Room of Requirement for the DA?
I'll tell you what, MR, these Death Eaters have MAD powers. The battle between the DA and Lucius et al was really cool. I don't want to give anything away, but the Ministry scene was a definite highlight. Bellatrx is under-used. Helena Bonham Carter is so amazing. They could have done more with her.

The Dumbledore/Voldemort duel was pretty cool too. I've always preferred Michael Gambon as Dumbledore and I think he really shines in this film. Voldemort is suitably menacing. It was too short, though. I really wanted to see them belt the living daylights out of one another. Alas.

Dobby isn't in it. Kreacher is. Neville finds the Room of Requirement. Go Neville!

How was the end scene in dumbledore's office? What about the Weasley Attack Scene? Um, oh is there anyhting special for the credits, because in POA and GOF we had cool credits.

-POA-Marauder's Map
-GOF-Flaming Parchment

Oh, is there anything in about the Malfoy Mansoin? i heard someone say in an interveiw they filmed something in there but it may have been cut!

I'll tell you what, MR, these Death Eaters have MAD powers. The battle between the DA and Lucius et al was really cool. I don't want to give anything away, but the Ministry scene was a definite highlight. Bellatrx is under-used. Helena Bonham Carter is so amazing. They could have done more with her.

The Dumbledore/Voldemort duel was pretty cool too. I've always preferred Michael Gambon as Dumbledore and I think he really shines in this film. Voldemort is suitably menacing. It was too short, though. I really wanted to see them belt the living daylights out of one another. Alas.

Dobby isn't in it. Kreacher is. Neville finds the Room of Requirement. Go Neville!

Next weekend cannot come soon enough!! :clap: From all the trailers etc. I did think Bellatrix looked creepy and convincing. I am glad all these new actors are showing potential.

I've always loved the actor who plays Voldemort. He's brilliant. The MoM scene does sound brilliant. I am happy about Neville too!

Hmm what else.. Was the Harry-Luna convo after Sirius's death in? How is Kreacher? The book one cracks me up with his mutterings.

What would you say was your favorite part?

Is it true that everyone hears the prophecy? And how much was the prophecy "altered"?...

Oh, i've been wondering how kreacher's voice sounds! Does Hermione ever try to stick up for kreacher?

Is it true that everyone hears the prophecy? And how much was the prophecy "altered"?...
Harry hears the prophecy in the DoM, but I wouldn't say everyone heard it. It's not an issue, anyway. The others probably weren't listening. We don't hear the whole prophecy, just the highlights -- "and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal, but he will have power the Dark Lord knows not... and either must die at the hand of the other for neither can live while the other survives".
Hmm what else.. Was the Harry-Luna convo after Sirius's death in? How is Kreacher? The book one cracks me up with his mutterings. What would you say was your favorite part?
Luna is very good in her role, although their conversation at the end isn't as poignant as I would have liked. They throw a bit of humour in (not cheesy humour, though), which detracts from the moment.

Kreacher is fine. He's not really in it that much. Just mutters to himself about half-bloods and the like.

My favourite part was probably ... the Ministry scene. Or the Weasley twins. Or Dumbledore's departure, which was very cool.

Oh, i've been wondering how kreacher's voice sounds! Does Hermione ever try to stick up for kreacher?
Nope, Hermione doesn't stick up for Kreacher. And his voice sounds ... house-elf-ish? Not as high-pitched as Dobby's.

Oh I'm so glad they kept in Dumbledore's awesome butt-kicking and departure!

So I'm presuming that if the prophecy is heard in the DoM, the part where Dumbledore "tells Harry everything" has been greatly shortened? Or removed? Shame, that scene is one of the best in the books!

Oh I'm so glad they kept in Dumbledore's awesome butt-kicking and departure! So I'm presuming that if the prophecy is heard in the DoM, the part where Dumbledore "tells Harry everything" has been greatly shortened? Or removed? Shame, that scene is one of the best in the books!
There is a very brief scene where Dumbledore explains why he hasn't been talking to Harry. Harry also says something about the prophecy ("it says that 'neither can live while the other survives'. That means one of us has to kill the other, doesn't it?" Dumbledore: "Yes"). For me it worked fine. Maybe others will think it was rushed?

There is a very brief scene where Dumbledore explains why he hasn't been talking to Harry. Harry also says something about the prophecy ("it says that 'neither can live while the other survives'. That means one of us has to kill the other, doesn't it?" Dumbledore: "Yes"). For me it worked fine. Maybe others will think it was rushed?


Eh, it means it isn't as touching, but it works for me.

I don't know why I'm spoiling myself for this...I guess I won't be disappointed when stuff gets changed. Besides I already know what happens.

I'm trying not to give too much away. I'm being fairly general in many of my statements. Apologies if you're feeling spoiled. I think you'll still have a lot to enjoy.

Nitpickers will FREAK OUT, though.

*tries to think of more questions to ask*...

Aside from the shortening, what did you think of the Snape's Worst Memory scene? I'm intrigued because with the exception of Pettigrew they all look perfectly cast to me.

Is the Malfoy Mansoin Scene in or out?

Aside from the shortening, what did you think of the Snape's Worst Memory scene? I'm intrigued because with the exception of Pettigrew they all look perfectly cast to me.
Honestly, you hardly see their faces, except James's. It's that quick. I thought it was realistic and well done. Yates seems to favour quick cuts -- there are several montages throughout -- and SWM was very quickly cut. You barely see what Sirius and the others looked liked when they were younger.

Is the Malfoy Mansoin Scene in or out?
Out.

Honestly, you hardly see their faces, except James's. It's that quick. I thought it was realistic and well done. Yates seems to favour quick cuts -- there are several montages throughout -- and SWM was very quickly cut. You barely see what Sirius and the others looked liked when they were younger.


Out.

:rockon:We need a MONTAGE! Even Rocky had a MONTAGE!! :rockon:(sorry, I think of that song every time someone mentions montages)

I never even heard of the "Malfoy Mansion scene"...****** now I'm disappointed that it won't be in there!

Does Fudge inspire as much hatred as he did in the book, or is most of the Ministry villainy shown through Umbridge? I'm being a bit more specific here...hmm

Does Fudge inspire as much hatred as he did in the book, or is most of the Ministry villainy shown through Umbridge? I'm being a bit more specific here...hmm
He comes off as stupid, ignorant and authoritarian. I didn't really hate him because he wasn't in it enough. Still, he's not at all sympathetic.

How much is Ginny featured? I'm guessing a lot...

So, in terms of cinematography and mood, would you say this one is on par more with POA than GOF ?

How much is Ginny featured? I'm guessing a lot...
Not that much, actually. She does some impressive magic and pulls some forlorn faces when Harry is oggling Cho, but she's not a significant presence.

So, in terms of cinematography and mood, would you say this one is on par more with POA than GOF ?
Hmm. I haven't seen either film recently, but I suppose this reminded me more of PoA than GoF. The way it's been cut and shot is really quite unique to the series so far. Yates and Goldenberg make an excellent team.

Will it be easy for people who haven't read the book to understand?
I've cajoled my Mum into coming with me on Wednesday, and have explained the story and characters briefly, is there anything I'll need to explain to her?

Will it be easy for people who haven't read the book to understand?
Umm, not really. You might need to explain what certain spells are (eg Avada Kedavra), what certain potions are for (eg Veritaserum), and what the whole prophecy thing is about. I think she'll be confused. I hope she's polite enough not to ask questions in the film! ;)

Does Kreacher betray Sirius or did they cut that?

And if they did, how do they establish that Sirius is not at headquarters?

I would appreciate if you could explain this to me.

Does Kreacher betray Sirius or did they cut that? And if they did, how do they establish that Sirius is not at headquarters?
Kreacher doesn't betray Sirius. Harry has the vision of Sirius with Voldemort and goes to find him.

Oh, I should mention that the "fire head" talking is so much better in OotP than it was in GoF. No more Sirius barbecue head.

Umm, not really. You might need to explain what certain spells are (eg Avada Kedavra), what certain potions are for (eg Veritaserum), and what the whole prophecy thing is about. I think she'll be confused. I hope she's polite enough not to ask questions in the film! ;)

Haha, Avada Kedavra shouldn't be too hard to explain.

Speaking of which, does Harry really try Crucio on Bella like in the book? And please tell me the characters use more than one defensive spell now other than "Expelliarmus"...

Speaking of which, does Harry really try Crucio on Bella like in the book? And please tell me the characters use more than one defensive spell now other than "Expelliarmus"...
Yep, he tries to Crucio her. Voldemort also tries to goad him into killing Bellatrix. It's all very cool.

The DA is very well trained. They do some pretty cool stuff, beyond the realms of Expelliarmus, yes.

Thanks for answering that last question, Rotsiepots, you are probably the most popular member in the Forum right now :lol:

Anyway, does Snape deny Umbridge Veritaserum? I'm guessing not, but just thought I'd ask

Yep, he tries to Crucio her. Voldemort also tries to goad him into killing Bellatrix. It's all very cool.

The DA is very well trained. They do some pretty cool stuff, beyond the realms of Expelliarmus, yes.

Great, that overuse of Expelliarmus annoyed the heck out of me in GoF. It was as if they thought that spell worked against everything...

Anyway, does Snape deny Umbridge Veritaserum? I'm guessing not, but just thought I'd ask
He sure does. I'm not giving away the context, though.

I honestly thought more people would have seen it than just me. I didn't expect to answer so many questions! I just wanted a conversation. ;)

Well, since you wanted more of a conversation, I'll quit asking for specific details
But as far as the whole movie, did you feel anything was tacky, is there anything we're gonna have to ignore in order to reep the awesomeness of the rest of the movie

He sure does. I'm not giving away the context, though.

I honestly thought more people would have seen it than just me. I didn't expect to answer so many questions! I just wanted a conversation. ;)

Hey you may get it early wherever you live but here in Canada we have to wait until Wednesday.

Umm, not really. You might need to explain what certain spells are (eg Avada Kedavra), what certain potions are for (eg Veritaserum), and what the whole prophecy thing is about. I think she'll be confused. I hope she's polite enough not to ask questions in the film! ;)

That doesn't really bode well for the percentage of audience who haven't read the books.

Well, since you wanted more of a conversation, I'll quit asking for specific details But as far as the whole movie, did you feel anything was tacky, is there anything we're gonna have to ignore in order to reep the awesomeness of the rest of the movie
Nah, it's all right. I like answering questions. I just thought there would be at least one other person to join in the fun.

The cheese factor was astoudingly absent from this film! There were so many moments in the previous films where I just wanted to gag, but I felt really comfortable watching OotP. The kissing scene, I suppose, is a little icky (you can tell the poor kids were nervous), but I didn't cringe once, really.

Hey you may get it early wherever you live but here in Canada we have to wait until Wednesday.
It doesn't open until Wednesday where I live too. I work in the media, so assumed there would be at least one more hack here.

rotsiepots, will you visit this post after the official release so that we CAN have a real discussion about it?

Nah, it's all right. I like answering questions. I just thought there would be at least one other person to join in the fun.

The cheese factor was astoudingly absent from this film! There were so many moments in the previous films where I just wanted to gag, but I felt really comfortable watching OotP. The kissing scene, I suppose, is a little icky (you can tell the poor kids were nervous), but I didn't cringe once, really.


That's good because there were so many :rolleyes: moments in GoF. I'm interested to read that about the kissing scene. I've always found it in the book to be a very awkward scene to read (if you're trying to read through Harry's eyes - it's barely a kissing scene at all.) Now that the filmmakers changed it so it's a "makeout session", it makes it less awkward?

rotsiepots, will you visit this post after the official release so that we CAN have a real discussion about it?

Of course. I'm dying to hear what everyone else thinks. I'm convinced many people will be unhappy with it, but I'm a cinephile and thought it made for a great film.

Now that the filmmakers changed it so it's a "makeout session", it makes it less awkward?
It's certainly not a "makeout session", but it's not A kiss (singular). It's a series of kisses, but it's all very well done. It wasn't horrendously cheesy or cringe worthy. You could just tell that they were both a little bit ... scared of being filmed KISSING (tee hee).

Do you think the movie will transition well in Half-Blood Prince?

Do you think the movie will transition well in Half-Blood Prince?
Most definitely. Especially because Yates is directing. He gets Potter.

Most definitely. Especially because Yates is directing. He gets Potter.

That's such a relief. The only thing I'm worried about is that the Yates-Kloves partnership doesn't work as well as the Yates-Goldenberg partnership.

Screenplays are written in close collaboration with a director. There were noticeable differences in Kloves's writing from CoS to PoA. Likewise, Mike Newell's penchant for comedy resulted in more whimsical (cheesy!) moments in GoF. Kloves is a good writer (see Wonder Boys), we've just been waiting for the right director.

Screenplays are written in close collaboration with a director. There were noticeable differences in Kloves's writing from CoS to PoA. Likewise, Mike Newell's penchant for comedy resulted in more whimsical (cheesy!) moments in GoF. Kloves is a good writer (see Wonder Boys), we've just been waiting for the right director.

Oh, that's interesting. I didn't know that. Well, if that's true, I say let Yates finish the whole thing. I would save them alot of trouble. It seems like they have a hard time finding directors.

OK - hit me with it.....how much did we see Lupin in this one? I love DT in the role and I know it was cut back, but how much? Also, does the wonderful Alan Rickman actually get to spread his wings or is Snape's role cut back to the bone as well? It was said in a previous post that the MOM scenes were short (SOB:upset:), how short is short? That is my favourite part of the book and I am dreading seeing it cut up. Thanks :p

OK - hit me with it.....how much did we see Lupin in this one? I love DT in the role and I know it was cut back, but how much? Also, does the wonderful Alan Rickman actually get to spread his wings or is Snape's role cut back to the bone as well? It was said in a previous post that the MOM scenes were short (SOB), how short is short? That is my favourite part of the book and I am dreading seeing it cut up. Thanks
There's enough of Lupin, in my opinion, although I daresay you want more. He's in Grimmauld Place and in the end Ministry scene. I don't think he says anything when he's in the Ministry, but he speaks towards the beginning. I like DT in the role too and was pleased he was included.

The same goes for Snape/Rickman, really. He's in it a bit more than Lupin (because he's at Hogwarts, obviously) and has some wry lines, but he's not that significant a character.

The Ministry scenes felt short because they were so good, I suppose. I couldn't tell you how long they were exactly. I would have liked a bit more action, but what action there was was really very well done. I can't stop talking about those Death Eaters. They were great.

Screenplays are written in close collaboration with a director. There were noticeable differences in Kloves's writing from CoS to PoA. Likewise, Mike Newell's penchant for comedy resulted in more whimsical (cheesy!) moments in GoF. Kloves is a good writer (see Wonder Boys), we've just been waiting for the right director.

what was yates' comedy like (with goldenburgs) would you say? would you say it's any better?

Eh, it means it isn't as touching, but it works for me.

I don't know why I'm spoiling myself for this...I guess I won't be disappointed when stuff gets changed. Besides I already know what happens.

well it still sounds ok - i'm not too bothered. it doesn't sound as serious as in the book though, where it;s a big scene...where DD has a tear in his eye.

Acutally, now i come to think about it....does Harry do a whole lot of yelling and stuff? and does DD explain his reasons for being cold etc? i'd liek to see if this'll help add to the tragicnness of his death in HBP :(


oh and sorry we're askign so many questions! but you did get to see it early! :D

hehe! i love how neville takes the place of houseelves!!!! :D

and james is an ar*e? good. that works!

The Ministry scenes felt short because they were so good, I suppose. I couldn't tell you how long they were exactly. I would have liked a bit more action, but what action there was was really very well done. I can't stop talking about those Death Eaters. They were great.
:clap: I'm so happy the Death Eaters where done well. I saw some clips with Bella and Lucius and they look great. I can't wait to see Bella in all her crazy glory.

Probably, if the Ministry scenes would have been longer, people would still complain.
I think they wanted to avoid the 'Great SFX Movie' impact.
But I'm happy with it, long action sequences bore me, as in PotC or King Kong.

What about private lessons with Snape? Were the scenes changed much? *drrols waiting to see the scenes*

Not that much, actually. She does some impressive magic and pulls some forlorn faces when Harry is oggling Cho, but she's not a significant presence.

Excellent!!


Hmm. I haven't seen either film recently, but I suppose this reminded me more of PoA than GoF. The way it's been cut and shot is really quite unique to the series so far. Yates and Goldenberg make an excellent team.

Hmm.. is the characterization similar to PoA too? I mean are Ron and Hermione getting equal "status" or does Emma get Rupert's good lines?

Any Ron/Hermione hints yet?

Do we see the scene where Umbridge has Hagrid and McGonagall attacked towards the end? Are the centaurs in?


I honestly thought more people would have seen it than just me. I didn't expect to answer so many questions! I just wanted a conversation. ;)

Just few more days and you won't be bombarded with questions. :rotfl:

how did you guys see ootp, you are soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo lucky

Do they have the scene were harry talks to Nearly Headless Nick about death?

I cant believe Bellatrix AK's Sirius! :wow:

Oh my god I cant wait for this movie!!! :lol:

am i the only one that finds bella rather attractive?
No, you're not the only one. I think Bella's definitely beautiful (Helena certainly is), though she's definitely a bit mad. :)

I cant believe Bellatrix AK's Sirius! :wow:

Oh my god I cant wait for this movie!!! :lol:
I can't wait either! I'm so excited for that scene.

...I can't wait to see the movie...

No, you're not the only one. I think Bella's definitely beautiful (Helena certainly is), though she's definitely a bit mad. :)


i think the madness she shows, is what adds to the attractivness.

she just plays it sooooo well.

also, how do you do the spoiler thing? im new to these forums o.o

What do the thestrals look like, how do they move, i really like these creatures, im curious

Nah, it's all right. I like answering questions. I just thought there would be at least one other person to join in the fun.

The cheese factor was astoudingly absent from this film! There were so many moments in the previous films where I just wanted to gag, but I felt really comfortable watching OotP. The kissing scene, I suppose, is a little icky (you can tell the poor kids were nervous), but I didn't cringe once, really.



Oh, yay! Every time I get to "I love magic" in GoF, I end up hiding my face in embarrassment... :rolleyes:

And even though I get to see it Thursday, I have the patience of a sock, so I would really love to know how the Neville vs. Bellatrix scene is? We've seen the part where

Bellatrix does the whole, "How's mum and dad?" bit, prompting Neville to attempt to avenge his father omg

but I gather there's a later scene, too? Is it any good? From what we've seen, they've really got Bella right, but I'm still curious as to how they've done here... ('cause I kinda love that scene in the book, heh.)

Also, um, I'm not sure whether this has been answered, but do they have the rooms in the DoM? You know, like the Time Room and all that?

It sounds awesome so far!! I can't wait to see it. Probably the biggest relief for me is that there are no incredibly cheesy moments like there have been in ALL the other movies.

So, do they still have Harry's hearing? If so, how is it?

Does "Dumbledore" have any more fits of shouting/shaking Harry? Or has he toned it down a bit? I personally loved Michael Gambon in PoA - I thought that was the best Dumbledore we've had yet - but didn't like him at all in GoF, so I I'm hoping this one is better.

Oh, and last of all (for now, anyway!!), how is the pace of the movie? As slow as CoS? As fast as GoF? Or somewhere in between (like PS or PoA)?

So we can take that for canon that Bella Avada Kedavras him and it wasn't just a stunner? :huh:

It was a green flash of light in the book, stunners are red.

It was a green flash of light in the book, stunners are red.

Mm, actually the color of the spell is not clearly specified in the book but it is implied that it's red.

I am glad the movie clears our doubts though!

what was yates' comedy like (with goldenburgs) would you say? would you say it's any better?
There wasn't a lot of comedy in OotP. What humour there was was much more subtle than what we're used to. I found Dudley's appearance to be quite funny and Ron and the twins crack a few jokes, but that's really it.

Acutally, now i come to think about it....does Harry do a whole lot of yelling and stuff? and does DD explain his reasons for being cold etc?
Harry doesn't do a lot of yelling, no. I was glad because I didn't really like Harry in OotP. They did a nice balance of angst and loneliness in OotP and Harry comes off really well. Dumbledore does explain why he was cold, yes.

What about private lessons with Snape? Were the scenes changed much?
Not really. Obviously they were limited with what memories they could show, so they flashback to a lot of stuff from the earlier films. It works, although I would have preferred seeing Harry chased by a dog! They didn't go into a lot of detail about Occlumency/Legilimency, but in the grand scheme of things that isn't that important. You understand what it is.

Hmm.. is the characterization similar to PoA too? I mean are Ron and Hermione getting equal "status" or does Emma get Rupert's good lines?
Hermione is characterised as a know it all. Ron is characterised as, erm, Harry's best mate. I didn't have any issues with characterisation.

Any Ron/Hermione hints yet? Do we see the scene where Umbridge has Hagrid and McGonagall attacked towards the end? Are the centaurs in?
Yes there are hints and they're really sweet! No, Umbridge doesn't have Hagrid and McGonagall attacked. No time for that! The centaurs are in it.

Do they have the scene were harry talks to Nearly Headless Nick about death?
No.

What do the thestrals look like, how do they move, i really like these creatures, im curious
They look like leathery horses with dragon's wings. They move like horses and they're very gentle. There's even an itty bitty baby Thestral, which is very cute.

And even though I get to see it Thursday, I have the patience of a sock, so I would really love to know how the Neville vs. Bellatrix scene is?
There isn't really much of a Neville/Bellatrix showdown, to be honest. Bellatrix says something about Neville's parents, he says something back (I'm not saying what), but that's really the extent of it.
There isn't really an epic battle or anything like that.

Also, um, I'm not sure whether this has been answered, but do they have the rooms in the DoM? You know, like the Time Room and all that?
No. It's just the Hall of Prophecy and the veil room.

So, do they still have Harry's hearing? If so, how is it?
Yes. It's ... fine. Not a highlight, but it was done well. Mrs Figg is pretty cool.

Does "Dumbledore" have any more fits of shouting/shaking Harry?
No.

Oh, and last of all (for now, anyway!!), how is the pace of the movie? As slow as CoS? As fast as GoF? Or somewhere in between (like PS or PoA)?
Well paced. It is quite brisk, but it didn't feel all that rushed to me. They focussed on what was important and I didn't sit there going, "ZOMG, they've cut out Quidditch!! How DARE they!!!" I'm sure some people will, though.

Mm, actually the color of the spell is not clearly specified in the book but it is implied that it's red.

I am glad the movie clears our doubts though!

I went back and looked, I had always assumed it said it was green but it doesn't say.

There isn't really much of a Neville/Bellatrix showdown, to be honest. Bellatrix says something about Neville's parents, he says something back (I'm not saying what), but that's really the extent of it.
There isn't really an epic battle or anything like that.

Aww, now I'm all curious... I take it this is the part where all the shots of Neville with the bloody nose come from, then. Oh well, I didn't really expect it to be big, but I'm glad it's in there. Neville's so wonderful in OotP, I'm glad they haven't wasted him (I'm such a fangirl *facepalm*)


No. It's just the Hall of Prophecy and the veil room.
That makes sense, since nothing much happens in the other ones... guess this is why I'm a book fan, they cater to my little details thing :rolleyes:

Yes there are hints and they're really sweet! This makes me unashamedly hopelessly squeeful. Thanks, rotsie!

Are there any scenes with Cho crying over Cedric and asking Harry if Cedric said any last messages to her before he died and Harry getting annoyed with her because of this?
After Harry's relationship with Cho falls apart, are there any hints towards Ginny being his next girl or does the movie make non-readers think it will be Harry/Luna (gnashing of teeth at this thought!)

In the game, after Harry pushes Voldemort out of his mind, Harry says to Voldemort that he feels sorry for him. Please tell me that they don't have Harry say that in the movie, because I don't think that Harry would say that.Ahh, figures that I just had to live in America...2 days....2 days...

Are there any scenes with Cho crying over Cedric and asking Harry if Cedric said any last messages to her before he died and Harry getting annoyed with her because of this? After Harry's relationship with Cho falls apart, are there any hints towards Ginny being his next girl or does the movie make non-readers think it will be Harry/Luna (gnashing of teeth at this thought!)
There is one scene with Cho crying and others where people talk about her crying. There are no questions about messages, I don't think. The reason why Harry and Cho's relationship falls apart is different to the book and it works really well.

There aren't any strong hints about Harry and Ginny, except for the ones I have already mentioned. Harry and Luna have a moment, but I don't think it's romantic.

Don't know if you stayed to the end but according to MTV Lockhart is in the movie at the end of the credits, is this true or not?

Thanks so much for doing this, I only have a couple of pictures.

Does the movie make the viewer (and Harry) sympathise/feel sorry for Snape as the book did?

Did we see snippets of Snape's past besides SWM?

Is Lily's blood protection/why he has to stay at the Dursley's explained?

What were the biggest deviations from the book?

Have you played the OOTP video game at all? Does it follow along with the movie as much as the game developers claim that it does? If so, then none of this can really be considered a spoiler for me, since I've played the game. So far, much of what you have mentioned here is very reminiscent of the video game...

Also, the Neville/Bella scene in the DoM is out as a clip on the internet if you look around. I think it's the one that Mugglenet was saying was hosted by AOL or something.

Don't know if you stayed to the end but according to MTV Lockhart is in the movie at the end of the credits, is this true or not?
I didn't stay until after the credits. As St Mungo's isn't in the film I think they'd have a hard time putting Lockhart in there. Who knows?

Does the movie make the viewer (and Harry) sympathise/feel sorry for Snape as the book did?
I didn't really feel sorry for Snape, no, but I didn't hate him.

Did we see snippets of Snape's past besides SWM?
No.

Is Lily's blood protection/why he has to stay at the Dursley's explained? What were the biggest deviations from the book?
There's no "Remember my Last" Howler. Harry is at the Dursleys for a very short period of time. There's no explanations about blood protection etc.

The film is a very condensed version of the book that works well. There aren't really major deviations, in my opinion. There are nice additions, but nothing that made me cringe.

Have you played the OOTP video game at all?
No, sorry.

Thanks so much for answering my questions.
Another one.
We know there is no Quiddich shown but is it mentioned at all?
You know, do we hear that Harry and the Twins got banned, or that Ginny and Ron made the team?
Or is it completely ignored?

Hi! Thank you for answering questions, and you're so lucky to get a first-look at the movie before the release! I was wondering about a few things, and thank you so much if you can reply:

1. What's Harry's possession scene like? People are saying it's phenominal, but how is it orchestrated? Is the Harry/Voldemort conflict much more deepend from GOF?

2. There is a photo of Dan looking emotional on the Hogwarts grounds presumebly after Sirius's death and the MOM battle. Is this still in the film?

3. I'm really excited about it, but in your opinion, is it better to go in with low expectations?

4. In a T.V spot, when Harry sees Voldemort's reflection in a mirror, and he says, "look at me". What IS that scene and how is it explained?

Thanks,

BrokenEternity

I saw the movie on Saturday night, but didn't log on and chat about it last night (sorry about that rotsiepots, heh). Figured I would answer a few questions.


I'm really excited about it, but in your opinion, is it better to go in with low expectations?

Not necessarily low expectations, just look at it as a movie. If you go in looking for it to be an accurate copy of the book, then you'll be disappointed, otherwise you'll like it. I absolutely loved the twins liberating themselves from Hogwarts, lol.


In a T.V spot, when Harry sees Voldemort's reflection in a mirror, and he says, "look at me". What IS that scene and how is it explained?

The mirror reflection is part of the possession scene. The scene is jumpy, going back and forth through different memories Harry has, the mirror shows his face (as it did in the room of requirements) and then changes to Voldie. The whole possession/battle scene was great, I only wish it had lasted longer, but definitely was amazing.

Oh and SNUGGLEPOTS.....
No Quidditch what-so-ever. Not really a loss, JKR just kinda had it to help move time along with the DA in the book anyways, not to mention with the rest of the Special FX in the movie you won't be disappointed.

I am interested in how they handled the Weasley family fued in this one. Is Percy in this one a lot and does he interact with any of his family at all,or is he still a background character in this one as he is in the others ? I am hoping they gave Rankin more to do in this one, as he is a great actor and feel the character of Percy is wasted in the movies when you compare to him in the books.

Imelda Staunton is amazing. Her characterisation of Umbridge is spot on. Tonks is barely in it (she's in, maybe three scenes?) and doesn't have much dialogue; Luna is really, really good (especially considering the girl has never acted before).

The death scene was interesting. The final battle in the Ministry was not as long as I would have liked. Plus, they clarified Sirius's death -- Bellatrix Avada Kedavras him; you see him die; and then fall back through the "veil". In the film, however, the veil isn't a veil, it's sort of a see-through film thing. It's very effective though. Much creepier than drapery.

yah that's what the screening here in the Philippines show... what if he return in 7? How are they gonna explain that? unless Jo told them that he wouldn't

Now I'm really worried :no:

(no bashing intended, no rejecting ideas intended, if ever this post shows disobedience, kindly attend to me asap. Thanks :)

I am interested in how they handled the Weasley family fued in this one. Is Percy in this one a lot and does he interact with any of his family at all,or is he still a background character in this one as he is in the others ? I am hoping they gave Rankin more to do in this one, as he is a great actor and feel the character of Percy is wasted in the movies when you compare to him in the books.

Percy is in the movie for about a whole 4 seconds, when Fudge and gang are there to take Dumbledore to Azkaban. He basically has hold of Harry while Dumbledore is confessing to forming the army and Percy gives Harry a snide look. That's it really, no feud at all really, no mention of Percy aside from his (essentially) cameo.

Since "SPOILERS" is right there in capslock in the title, do we really have to use the spoiler tags?

Speaking of capslock, is CAPSLOCK! Harry present in the movie?

And if we have to use the spoiler tags...I'm interested to read that Percy was not featured much. I suppose the non-book readers can't be expected to remember him from CoS.

I'm very interested in the beginning, I mean Dudley and the Dementor. I hope the big Dudley's come back to his mommy was funny :lol:

But another question (thank you for answering the previous one): is Snape shown helping the Order in Grimmauld Place? I mean, is he shown like it is in the book, standing in the centre of the Order, everybody around him?

I'm very interested in the beginning, I mean Dudley and the Dementor. I hope the big Dudley's come back to his mommy was funny :lol:

But another question (thank you for answering the previous one): is Snape shown helping the Order in Grimmauld Place? I mean, is he shown like it is in the book, standing in the centre of the Order, everybody around him?


I'm just using the spoiler text to be careful of anything being said despite the SPOILER warning on the title of the thread, at least until the movie is released this week:

Grimmauld Place is sort of a footnote in the movie. There really aren't any moments involving the Order's meetings aside from the conversation he hears part of when he gets there and the little half conversation he has with them at dinner.

Also, if you haven't seen what the actor who plays Dudley looks like now, you'll love it. He fits the way he was described in the book perfectly. As far as the attack, the two dementors were much crazier looking than the Nazgul-ish ones in the previous films. No hoods, straight on black nothing of a face, creepy.

i just got really excited for it just now so i can wait fot it to actually come out....:p:p

As far as the attack, the two dementors were much crazier looking than the Nazgul-ish ones in the previous films. No hoods, straight on black nothing of a face, creepy.
I thought they looked exactly the same only they had dispensed with their veils. Not surprising considering they were sucking souls at the time.

Is the music well done?

ah movies. never long enough to show all the good stuff :(

I read all the posts, but not very carefully, so if this has been asked, I'm sorry, but I really need to know, so please somebody answer... Thanks :)

In Snape's Worst Memory, does Lily stand up for Snape and how does he react? Is the 'Mudblood' line in? What is her role in that memory, if any?

Is the scene with Petunia knowing about Dementors in the film? If it's not I wonder whether it's really important...

Is the music well done?
In the sense that it fits, yes. I was impressed.

In Snape's Worst Memory, does Lily stand up for Snape and how does he react? Is the 'Mudblood' line in? What is her role in that memory, if any?
You don't see Lily in SWM, no. The scene is very quickly cut and you only really notice James and Snape. The "Mudblood" line is out.

Is the scene with Petunia knowing about Dementors in the film? If it's not I wonder whether it's really important...
Nope.

Is the relationship between Harry and Dumbledore well portrayed? I mean, is there shown that Harry is disappointed and angry that Dumbledore seems not to care about him?

And what about Voldemort manipulating Harry's mind? How is it portrayed?

Thanks, Rotsiepots. I guess that means that Lily is tortally absent and whatever the very important thing the first part of which we learn in OotP book (as per Jo's interview comment) is not included in the film. :sigh: I hoped the film would give some hints/clues in regard to her, but... Well, only two weeks until DH, so I'll know soon enough. Actually, since we get to see OotP on the 20th here :grumble:, I'll only have just seen the film when I'll be reading the final revelations, so there won't be time to overanalyse the film :)

Is the relationship between Harry and Dumbledore well portrayed? I mean, is there shown that Harry is disappointed and angry that Dumbledore seems not to care about him?
Yes and yes.

And what about Voldemort manipulating Harry's mind? How is it portrayed?
Dreams and flashbacks mostly. Harry expresses his concerns.

Have you played the OOTP video game at all? Does it follow along with the movie as much as the game developers claim that it does? If so, then none of this can really be considered a spoiler for me, since I've played the game. So far, much of what you have mentioned here is very reminiscent of the video game...

Also, the Neville/Bella scene in the DoM is out as a clip on the internet if you look around. I think it's the one that Mugglenet was saying was hosted by AOL or something.

Oh, really? Gah, I can't believe I missed that, I've only seen the one with Lucius Malfoy... the reason I was asking was that we've had a bunch of pictures like this (http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6872/still11si7.jpg), and I was wondering what the scene was like.

Oh, really? Gah, I can't believe I missed that, I've only seen the one with Lucius Malfoy... the reason I was asking was that we've had a bunch of pictures like this (http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/6872/still11si7.jpg), and I was wondering what the scene was like.

Yes, the one with Lucius Malfoy ("Between Dreams and Reality") is the one which they are posting about above, wherein Bella mentions Longbottom's parents and Longbottom replies to her.

How is Dumbledore portrayed? Is he all shouty and angry and crazy or has he calmed down a bit?

In the game, after Harry pushes Voldemort out of his mind, Harry says to Voldemort that he feels sorry for him. Please tell me that they don't have Harry say that in the movie, because I don't think that Harry would say that.Ahh, figures that I just had to live in America...

From what I can tell from seeing the A&E special last nite;
I know I will cry when Sirius dies! The part I saw was after Sirius was falling behind the veil, Remus was holding Harry back and Harry absolutly crying (or at least it looked like he was) it was so sad :upset:

I saw that too. That does look like a heart-wreching scene. Did you see that small clip of them talking how Harry may be becoming more like Voldemort and we see Harry turning his neck at weird angles? I wonder what part that is.

Have you played the OOTP video game at all? Does it follow along with the movie as much as the game developers claim that it does? If so, then none of this can really be considered a spoiler for me, since I've played the game. So far, much of what you have mentioned here is very reminiscent of the video game...

I have played it too! But, i honestly think very few things in the game follow the film except for the actual plot. But you know how they do lots of animation with the Daily Phrophet in the game? I think we can expect that in the movie from what i saw in the A&E special and the escape from Azkaban clip. And they probably have to add in things to make it more exciting, like the little mini-quests. Well, i've finally finished the game.

How is Dumbledore portrayed? Is he all shouty and angry and crazy or has he calmed down a bit?

i havn't seen it - but from what i've heard he's much calmer a nd impressively closer to harry..still not as good as in the book but a vast improvement of gof!!

I saw that too. That does look like a heart-wreching scene. Did you see that small clip of them talking how Harry may be becoming more like Voldemort and we see Harry turning his neck at weird angles? I wonder what part this is.

Ya i did see that. I think it might have been when Harry was at Grimmauld Place after the snake attacked Mr. Weasley.

YAY!! Someone else who has seen the movie lol. I thought I was the only one (I've been talking about it in the OOTP Discussion THread). I can't wait to see it again though, from first viewing it was def pretty much my favorite of the movies, but I'll reserve that judgement for after the 2nd viewing.

YAY!! Someone else who has seen the movie lol. I thought I was the only one (I've been talking about it in the OOTP Discussion THread). I can't wait to see it again though, from first viewing it was def pretty much my favorite of the movies, but I'll reserve that judgement for after the 2nd viewing.

I am seriously dying to see the movie. After watching the A&E preview last, I cant stop talking about it! You are so lucky you already saw it! :)

Just when I thought I couldn't get more excited about this film... this thread is making the next 2 days nearly unbearable!

i watched a program on ITV on saturday called Harry Potter: Behind the magic
on this it showed some of the dementor scene at the beginning, Harry gets pushed up to a wall by one, and dudley is tripped over by one, is this actually in the movie like this?

I can't believe I'm the only member of CoS who has seen OotP. C'mon folks, let's get discussing. What did we think? Favourite parts? Strengths, weaknesses etc?

I'm interested in discussing the film with fans. :DI didn't even know it was out yet. To be honest, I'm more anxious for DH than the OotP movie, so I just haven't kept up. I knew it was coming out this month (OotP), just not when. What's the release date in the states?

i watched a program on ITV on saturday called Harry Potter: Behind the magic
on this it showed some of the dementor scene at the beginning, Harry gets pushed up to a wall by one, and dudley is tripped over by one, is this actually in the movie like this?

I think Dudley slipped on the ice...I don't think Dementors can trip people lol. But yes everything else is correct.

What's the release date in the states?
Wednesday!!!!

has anyone else noticed how most book fnas are satisfied with this movie? at least they're not complaining about huge non-canon things when compared to GOF!!! yet it must have left jsut as much/more things out! a good sign for the film! :D

has anyone else noticed how most book fnas are satisfied with this movie? at least they're not complaining about huge non-canon things when compared to GOF!!! yet it must have left jsut as much/more things out! a good sign for the film! :DQuite a bit of people complained about PoA, though. It was like you either hated it or liked it. It might be a bit a bit split, there. For myself, I honestly couldn't stand the way movie 3 was handled character wise and story-telling wise.

i watched a program on ITV on saturday called Harry Potter: Behind the magic
on this it showed some of the dementor scene at the beginning, Harry gets pushed up to a wall by one, and dudley is tripped over by one, is this actually in the movie like this?

Dudley was tripped? I dont remember that in the book. Also, did you notice that in the overpass they were under or where ever they were in that scene, it had lighting? I thougt it was supposed to be dark.:shrug:

Wednesday!!!!That's an odd day to have a release on. Any idea as to why it's being released on the 11th? I always like seeing HP movies on opening day, or at least opening weekend. If I don't see it that Friday, I just go on Saturday. I guess I'll inform my mother of its coming out this Wednesday. This will be a bit disheartening, though. This will be the first HP movie, where I'm not going with my best friend. We had a bad argument, and went our separate ways.

I can't believe I'm the only member of CoS who has seen OotP. C'mon folks, let's get discussing. What did we think? Favourite parts? Strengths, weaknesses etc?

I'm interested in discussing the film with fans. :D

I thought it was excellent. It took the core of the story and ran with it. The cuts that were made..you really didn't miss..because they made up for it in some kind of way (Like the St. Mungo's scene for instance....the scene where Neville talks about his parents is just as sweet and close to the feeling I got reading that scene..I thought it was well done.)

Favorite Parts: I'm not sure....I actually really enjoyed the Grawp scene lol..the Ministry was great...I LOVED Dumbledore's escape...and the Dumbledore Army stuff was pretty good. (Oh and the Abeforthe scene is just classic...only true book fans will get that one)

I think one weakness of the film was I think it did rely on a majority of people have read the books already. Like the scene in Umbridge's office..where the heck did Neville come from? lol

One thing the film got right though was pacing. You never get bored and that was one thing I was worried about (especially since the majority of the book is talking). I loved the use of the Daily Prophet...such a good idea..especially in the scope of this story...and I don't want to say here but there's something the camera does when Harry is chasing Bella that I thought was so awesome and glad to see it finally in a HP film

Strengths:

Dudley was tripped? I dont remember that in the book. Also, did you notice that in the overpass they were under or where ever they were in that scene, it had lighting? I thougt it was supposed to be dark.:shrug:


Well if it was completley dark we wouldn't be able to see the actors lol. The lighting isn't that bad though...u can tell it's dark and once the dementors get there you're so focused on them you don't really notice it lol

That's an odd day to have a release on. Any idea as to why it's being released on the 11th? I always like seeing HP movies on opening day, or at least opening weekend. If I don't see it that Friday, I just go on Saturday. I guess I'll inform my mother of its coming out this Wednesday. This will be a bit disheartening, though. This will be the first HP movie, where I'm not going with my best friend. We had a bad argument, and went our separate ways.

I agree. Thanks to the new release date (the 11th) I have to wait an extra 2 days to see the movie. (normally I see the movies on the saturday after they come out. )

I thought it was excellent. It took the core of the story and ran with it. The cuts that were made..you really didn't miss..because they made up for it in some kind of way (Like the St. Mungo's scene for instance....the scene where Neville talks about his parents is just as sweet and close to the feeling I got reading that scene..I thought it was well done.)That's great to hear!! I'm glad they're keeping that scene. You just can't help but feel sorry for Neville and want to hug him and stuff. Out of curiosity, though, for comic relief, did the kids run into Lockhart? ^^

That's an odd day to have a release on. Any idea as to why it's being released on the 11th? I always like seeing HP movies on opening day, or at least opening weekend. If I don't see it that Friday, I just go on Saturday. I guess I'll inform my mother of its coming out this Wednesday. This will be a bit disheartening, though. This will be the first HP movie, where I'm not going with my best friend. We had a bad argument, and went our separate ways.

So they can get more ticket sales in which they can possibly kick Transformers out of number 1. Alot of companies are doing that this year...release a movie a few days early and you get more ticket sales instead of just 2 days on the weekend

That's great to hear!! I'm glad they're keeping that scene. You just can't help but feel sorry for Neville and want to hug him and stuff. Out of curiosity, though, for comic relief, did the kids run into Lockhart? ^^

I heard they cut Lockhart out :/

That's great to hear!! I'm glad they're keeping that scene. You just can't help but feel sorry for Neville and want to hug him and stuff. Out of curiosity, though, for comic relief, did the kids run into Lockhart? ^^

Wait..I think you misread me lol. They cut St. Mungo's..but I said you didn't miss it because there is a scene in there that makes you feel just like you do when you read it. It would've been cool to see it though...but Neville talls Harry about his parents after Bella breaks out of Azkaban and it's a really sweet scene. I was just saying that the things they cut out..they somehow made up for it in some other way. Sorry to get your hopes up (Don't hate me forever)

I heard they cut Lockhart out :/Well, it's not too surprising. I wasn't really expecting him to bet here since he really wasn't important to the plot or anything. He was just there for comedy relief, mostly, and I guess to show how strong his memory charms are.

Is Azkaban that triangle-shaped place shown on the trailers?

Well, it's not too surprising. I wasn't really expecting him to bet here since he really wasn't important to the plot or anything. He was just there for comedy relief, mostly, and I guess to show how strong his memory charms are.

I think it would have been a comic relief since the movie is so dark. But your right, he wasent that important. :)

Is Azkaban that triangle-shaped place shown on the trailers?

Yep, because you can see Bellatrix escaping from there. (she wearing the same outfit that Sirius was wearing from the 3rd movie)

Wait..I think you misread me lol. They cut St. Mungo's..but I said you didn't miss it because there is a scene in there that makes you feel just like you do when you read it. It would've been cool to see it though...but Neville talls Harry about his parents after Bella breaks out of Azkaban and it's a really sweet scene. I was just saying that the things they cut out..they somehow made up for it in some other way. Sorry to get your hopes up (Don't hate me forever)Aww...I did misread. Oh well...can't have everything. *Cries* How dare they deprive this Neville fan of a great Neville scene. =P In a way, though, I'm not entirely surprised. For GoF, Dumbledore didn't even really get into the stuff dealing with the Longbottoms or of his telling Harry not to let anyone know of Neville's parents' situation and stuff. There wasn't much focus on them, unlike the book (compared to the movie), so it would've been out of place (I guess), to show that scene with Neville in OotP at St. Mungo's.

I think Dudley slipped on the ice...I don't think Dementors can trip people lol. But yes everything else is correct.

Well the clip went quite fast, i must not have seen it properly then, it did seem quite odd. also on this part, how does harry get out of being pushed up against the wall by the neck, bit of a sticky situation isnt it? this doesnt seem like dementor behaviour to me... also, on the subject of dementors, does umbridge tell harry it was her that set the dementors on him at the end?

Aww...I did misread. Oh well...can't have everything. *Cries* How dare they deprive this Neville fan of a great Neville scene. =P In a way, though, I'm not entirely surprised. For GoF, Dumbledore didn't even really get into the stuff dealing with the Longbottoms or of his telling Harry not to let anyone know of Neville's parents' situation and stuff. There wasn't much focus on them, unlike the book (compared to the movie), so it would've been out of place (I guess), to show that scene with Neville in OotP at St. Mungo's.

Awww don't worry..there are a few great Neville scenes in the film. It's funny thinking back on the first movie and how much Neville has grown really (He REALLY changes once Bella breaks out) He has some nice moments in the film..so don't worry :)

Well the clip went quite fast, i must not have seen it properly then, it did seem quite odd. also on this part, how does harry get out of being pushed up against the wall by the neck, bit of a sticky situation isnt it? this doesnt seem like dementor behaviour to me... also, on the subject of dementors, does umbridge tell harry it was her that set the dementors on him at the end?

Well once Dudley is on the ground that one Dementor starts doing the soul suck on him and the one who has Harry pinned to the wall does the soul suck on Harry. I think Harry like jabs his wand in the Dementors eye socket and it drops him.

And to the Umbridge question no, I don't remember her saying that.

OK, I have an incredibly dorky question for you earlybirds out there :)

There were two vomiting scenes in the book (Dudly in the entryway, and Harry after the dream). Do they show that on screen?

I need to know when to close my eyes, and whether or not to eat the popcorn :p

Told you it was a dorky question!

OK, I have an incredibly dorky question for you earlybirds out there :)

There were two vomiting scenes in the book (Dudly in the entryway, and Harry after the dream). Do they show that on screen?

I need to know when to close my eyes, and whether or not to eat the popcorn :p

Told you it was a dorky question!

LOL...only one..and I think that's Dudley when he's back home. Then again he really doesn't make the sound if I remember, he's just over the bucket lol.

Thanks Phrozenone :) I can't stand watching people throw up, so I really needed the warning!

LOL...only one..and I think that's Dudley when he's back home. Then again he really doesn't make the sound if I remember, he's just over the bucket lol.

One time I was on the internet I could have sworn I saw a picture of Dudley throwing up in a flower pot. I dont know, maybe it was something else.

Can someone answer this? In the game, after Harry pushes Voldemort out of his mind, Harry says to Voldemort that he feels sorry for him. Please tell me that they don't have Harry say that in the movie, because I don't think that Harry would say that.

One time I was on the internet I could have sworn I saw a picture of Dudley throwing up in a flower pot. I dont know, maybe it was something else.


Yeah that's the scene..but I don't remember him actually throwing up...he just had his head in it lol.

Can someone answer this? In the game, after Harry pushes Voldemort out of his mind, Harry says to Voldemort that he feels sorry for him. Please tell me that they don't have Harry say that in the movie, because I don't think that Harry would say that.

Yeah he says it..but they way it's done is pretty well (It goes with everything that's going around...and he says more than that..but it's the last thing he says yes) Don't worry...it's not as cheesy as you'd think lol

Yeah that's the scene..but I don't remember him actually throwing up...he just had his head in it lol.

Got it:tu:

Poor Dudley :lol:

Hey everybody! My name is Nick Maudlin and I work at a movie theater. My manager, a good friend of mine, set up a private screening for me earlier this morning. I'm also going to get to see it again this evening. I planned on creating my own thread for questions, but since it appears I'm not the only earlybird, I'll simply continue on with the questions here. So, ask away! :)

:welcome: Hi NickMaudlin! Extendable ears! what do they look like?

I agree. Thanks to the new release date (the 11th) I have to wait an extra 2 days to see the movie. (normally I see the movies on the saturday after they come out. )

Wait. So, you are going to see it next Monday? If you were going to watch it on Saturday anyway, why is the fact that it's being released early causing you to wait two extra days to go see it?

:welcome: Hi NickMaudlin! Extendable ears! what do they look like?

It basically just looks like an ear on a string. Fred and George lower it from the top of the stairs and it moves up against the door. There's a funny part where Crookshanks actually rips it off the string and carries it away.

i like how the whole bellatrix-escaping thing looks!

i saw it last night. it was good, it looked amazing, but it felt rushed. though, i guess it had to be since OotP is the longest book. i wish they's shown more of Sirius.

i think it may have been confusing had you not read the book. (three times)

i think it may have been confusing had you not read the book. (three times)

OK. Just to extend on my earlier post, there are some things I want to say about the movie right off the bat. I noticed some VERY interesting things in the movie that could very easily have implications in the final book. It's just speculation of course, but if you're interested go ahead and highlight the text below.

The 1st thing that caught my attention was near the end in the hall of prophecy. Lucious is trying to convince Harry to hand over the prophecy like in the book. His exact dialogue sounded something like this:

"You've waited fourteen years to discover the truth about your connection to the Dark Lord. Haven't you ever wondered why he attacked you that night? Don't you want to know the truth about that scar?"

If that's not implying that Harry is a horcrux and Lucious knows it, then I don't know why it would have been worded that way....Very interesting...

The 2nd thing to jump out was at the very end when Harry is talking to Luna on the last day about people stealing her belongings. He says something along the lines of:

"I just can't believe I'll never see him again."

and Luna gives a slight smile before saying:

"Well, you never know. Things have a way of coming back when you least expect it."

Then she looks up and sees her shoes hanging above the doorway. Could they possibly be implying that Sirius will return somehow? If the movies are to be taken as canon then I'm insanely hyped for Deathly Hallows now!

Okay! Sorry, that was longer than I intended it to be. On a spoiler free note. I absolutely loved the movie! It's so incredibly dark for a Harry Potter film! It did seem a little rushed, but I thought the same of GoF. It's tough to cram so much story into 2 and a half hours. Anyway, continue to ask questions or ask me to describe certain scenes or whatever you'd like. I'll leave you with my new favorite dialogue from the Harry Potter movies.

The centuars are attacking Umbridge and just before they carry her away she turns to Harry to beg.

"Please Harry, tell them I mean them no harm."

Harry looks her in the face and says:

"Sorry, Professor. I must not tell lies."

He runs off with Hermione and Ron.

^

BWAH!!! Best way to redo the scene, AND make it relevant for the film. I love it!!!

OK. Just to extend on my earlier post, there are some things I want to say about the movie right off the bat. I noticed some VERY interesting things in the movie that could very easily have implications in the final book. It's just speculation of course, but if you're interested go ahead and highlight the text below.

The 1st thing that caught my attention was near the end in the hall of prophecy. Lucious is trying to convince Harry to hand over the prophecy like in the book. His exact dialogue sounded something like this:

"You've waited fourteen years to discover the truth about your connection to the Dark Lord. Haven't you ever wondered why he attacked you that night? Don't you want to know the truth about that scar?"

If that's not implying that Harry is a horcrux and Lucious knows it, then I don't know why it would have been worded that way....Very interesting...

The 2nd thing to jump out was at the very end when Harry is talking to Luna on the last day about people stealing her belongings. He says something along the lines of:

"I just can't believe I'll never see him again."

and Luna gives a slight smile before saying:

"Well, you never know. Things have a way of coming back when you least expect it."

Then she looks up and sees her shoes hanging above the doorway. Could they possibly be implying that Sirius will return somehow? If the movies are to be taken as canon then I'm insanely hyped for Deathly Hallows now!

Okay! Sorry, that was longer than I intended it to be. On a spoiler free note. I absolutely loved the movie! It's so incredibly dark for a Harry Potter film! It did seem a little rushed, but I thought the same of GoF. It's tough to cram so much story into 2 and a half hours. Anyway, continue to ask questions or ask me to describe certain scenes or whatever you'd like. I'll leave you with my new favorite dialogue from the Harry Potter movies.

The centuars are attacking Umbridge and just before they carry her away she turns to Harry to beg.

"Please Harry, tell them I mean them no harm."

Harry looks her in the face and says:

"Sorry, Professor. I must not tell lies."

He runs off with Hermione and Ron.

Since i just found out how to do the spoiler thing, and to save some people some grief

Harry is not a horcrux. Voldemort went there to kill him, he didnt know he would loose his powers like he did. Why would he make a horcux out of someone hes going to kill? Thats counterproductive, and even Voldemort isnt stupid enough to do it.

And with sirius getting AK'ed, odds are hes not coming back.

im sorry, but some of those theories are just "omg some one said somthing that might imply that its possibly maybe gunna turn out this way so it must be true"

Okay! Sorry, that was longer than I intended it to be. On a spoiler free note. I absolutely loved the movie! It's so incredibly dark for a Harry Potter film! It did seem a little rushed, but I thought the same of GoF. It's tough to cram so much story into 2 and a half hours. Anyway, continue to ask questions or ask me to describe certain scenes or whatever you'd like. I'll leave you with my new favorite dialogue from the Harry Potter movies.



There's a fine line between trying to fit an 800-page book into two and a half hours and rushing it. One of the things I noticed about GoF was the terrible scene transition, even I, who consider GoF my second-favorite, felt a little confused at it.

Anyway, that is some great dialogue (even moreso when compared with the godawful dialogue in GoF. I know it seems sometimes I can't make a post in MS without sneaking in at least one bash of GoF..). Going to see this on Wednesday at the IMAX, can't wait.

Since i just found out how to do the spoiler thing, and to save some people some grief

Harry is not a horcrux. Voldemort went there to kill him, he didnt know he would loose his powers like he did. Why would he make a horcux out of someone hes going to kill? Thats counterproductive, and even Voldemort isnt stupid enough to do it.

And with sirius getting AK'ed, odds are hes not coming back.

im sorry, but some of those theories are just "omg some one said somthing that might imply that its possibly maybe gunna turn out this way so it must be true"

Well, yes, I certainly didn't mean to imply that what I was saying was anything more than speculation. Honestly, we have far too little information (and far too much bias) to find any hard evidence of these theories at all. We don't really know Voldemort's intentions when he raided Godric's Hallow, nor do we truly know all the mysteries of the veil. There's no way of knowing what will happen next cause Jo could add so many new possibilities to her world. Absolutely anything is possible in Deathly Hallows.

Well, yes, I certainly didn't mean to imply that what I was saying was anything more than speculation. Honestly, we have far too little information (and far too much bias) to find any hard evidence of these theories at all. We don't really know Voldemort's intentions when he raided Godric's Hallow, nor do we truly know all the mysteries of the veil. There's no way of knowing what will happen next cause Jo could add so many new possibilities to her world. Absolutely anything is possible in Deathly Hallows.

Not anything, close to anything. but not anything.

Reminder to be polite and respectful when posting. We all have our own unique ideas and speculations, to which we are entitled.

Let's get this discussion back on topic: "So, who has seen OotP?"

There's a fine line between trying to fit an 800-page book into two and a half hours and rushing it. One of the things I noticed about GoF was the terrible scene transition, even I, who consider GoF my second-favorite, felt a little confused at it.

Anyway, that is some great dialogue (even moreso when compared with the godawful dialogue in GoF. I know it seems sometimes I can't make a post in MS without sneaking in at least one bash of GoF..). Going to see this on Wednesday at the IMAX, can't wait.

I understand. I mean I understood everything that was happening, it was just that everything just happens so fast. I was thinking "I can't believe they're already at the Hog's Head scene. I feel like I just sat down." But I honestly think that's mostly because I was so into the movie, that time kinda flew by.

I promise you won't be disappointed. It's already my favorite Harry Potter movie so far. They do an amazing job of making you really understand what Harry's feeling.

Somebody all ready asked this, but this is driving me crazy, so I'll ask again: Does Umbridge reveal that she set the Dementors on Harry?

Sounds like a better movie than the last! I'm excited to see it, and from the sounds of it the cuts they did weren't too bad/ were done well. Cheers!

Somebody all ready asked this, but this is driving me crazy, so I'll ask again: Does Umbridge reveal that she set the Dementors on Harry?

No. : ( Unfortunately, she never reveals that.

No. : ( Unfortunately, she never reveals that.

A little part of me just died inside. :lol: That kind of kills the whole point of the plot-line. It would have been so easy to include. Just one FREAKING LINE! :grumble:

P.S. If your question has already been asked but wasn't answered, feel free to repeat it. I'm on here constantly and I intend to reply to every single question asked as thuroughly as I can.

A little part of me just died inside. :lol: That kind of kills the whole point of the plot-line. It would have been so easy to include. Just one FREAKING LINE! :grumble:

Yeah, they really should have. : ( It would've been pretty simple. Well, I'm seeing it again tonight. Hopefully, she did say it and I just overlooked it. I'll let you know.

Yeah. Hopefully. What was the snake attack like?

In any of the flashbacks to the previous movies, do we see Richard Harris's Dumbledore in any of these flashbacks?

wow. i just read all the posts an i am so hyped!

its sound excellent!

i've seen it thanks to myspace
and if you read the books, it probably wont be as good.

What was the snake attack like?
Fairly tense. There was blood!

In any of the flashbacks to the previous movies, do we see Richard Harris's Dumbledore in any of these flashbacks?
Not that I recall. Most of the flasbacks are of Harry, Ron and Hermione. The Mirror of Erised makes an appearance too.

Unfortunately, she never reveals that.WHAT???? :no::grumble::td: Grrrr. But...UGH!!!!
It makes her so much more evil!!!!

It makes her so much more evil!!!!
Characters have to be believable, though.

Characters have to be believable, though.So it isn't believeable that Umbridge could have sent the dementors? From what I heard, Umbridge is made out to be really bad. (Which is good, because she is evil.)

Oh, I think you answered this before but I hope you don't mind answering this again: If someone has not read the book, will they be able to understand the movie's plot?

So it isn't believeable that Umbridge could have sent the dementors? From what I heard, Umbridge is made out to be really bad. (Which is good, because she is evil.)
No. My point is characters aren't uni-dimensional. You can't just have a character constantly doing evil things because it's not realistic. The point about Umbridge's nastiness is very well made, but it's not over the top. They could have made her a pathetic caricature (yes, I sent the Dementors after you! And I'm going to attack Hagrid and McGonagall!! And I'm good friends with Lucius Malfoy!!), but that wouldn't have worked.

If someone has not read the book, will they be able to understand the movie's plot?
Mmm, probably not. Why would anyone who hasn't read the books want to suddenly jump on board the bandwagon at the fifth film?

No. My point is characters aren't uni-dimensional. You can't just have a character constantly doing evil things because it's not realistic. The point about Umbridge's nastiness is very well made, but it's not over the top. They could have made her a pathetic caricature (yes, I sent the Dementors after you! And I'm going to attack Hagrid and McGonagall!! And I'm good friends with Lucius Malfoy!!), but that wouldn't have worked.I see your point. Can't have too much of a good thing, or in this case, a bad thing.

Mmm, probably not. Why would anyone who hasn't read the books want to suddenly jump on board the bandwagon at the fifth film?

but the thousands and thousands of people who've seen the previous films but haven't read the books. Will they understand it? That's one of the things I've been worried about from reading that Goldenberg interview. Was the movie too dense and packed with detail, or was it at an okay and easily digestable level?

I see your point. Can't have too much of a good thing, or in this case, a bad thing.
I liked this film a lot because of its balanced characterisations. Everyone is flawed, but no one comes off as cartoon-ish. Except the Dursleys. Goodness, I wish someone would fix that family. They just over act to the point of absurdity. :rolleyes:

but the thousands and thousands of people who've seen the previous films but haven't read the books. Will they understand it?
I cannot possibly speak for "thousands and thousands" of people. I have read the books. I understood it.

I cannot possibly speak for "thousands and thousands" of people. I have read the books. I understood it.To answer the question of if non-readers will understand the movie, I would agree with rotsipots. Even though I haven't seen the movie, I think that it may go over well with some members of the audience, and others may be baffled. I think that non-readers may understand, because even though they divert from the books, they normally make it clear what is going on. Like in GoF. They made it clear that Harry was going to do something for some sort of contest. Probably the same for OotP. They probably will focus on that Umbridge is denying them magic, and they want to rebel.

Mmm, probably not. Why would anyone who hasn't read the books want to suddenly jump on board the bandwagon at the fifth film?

Ah, okay. Well, I am dragging my friends with me because I don't want to watch the movie alone, and they're not HP fans, so I was just wondering. ;) Thanks.

Hmm do we see much of Draco in this movie? And how does the movie end? I mean where are the trio?

Hmm do we see much of Draco in this movie? And how does the movie end? I mean where are the trio?
Not much of Draco, no. Felton still over acts a bit -- he doesn't give Malfoy any complexity ... just a lot of sneering. I honestly don't know if he can pull off HBP.

The movie ends well for once. If I remember correctly, the trio are getting back on the Hogwarts Express. No cheesiness, though. Or, at least, a must less intense cheesy moment.

I cannot possibly speak for "thousands and thousands" of people. I have read the books. I understood it.

Er, I'm sorry if I came off as rude or something, I didn't mean too.

I just want to know if there is anything like Goblet of Fire's sort of glossing over of Priori Incantatum. Is everything in the film given some explanation? You don't have to be a non-reader to have noticed any ommisions like that.

Not much of Draco, no. Felton still over acts a bit -- he doesn't give Malfoy any complexity ... just a lot of sneering. I honestly don't know if he can pull off HBP.

The movie ends well for once. If I remember correctly, the trio are getting back on the Hogwarts Express. No cheesiness, though. Or, at least, a must less intense cheesy moment.

I was wondering about Draco too. Although Rickman and Felton ARE Snape and Malfoy to me, they've been given such a...reduced role that I wonder how it'll look realistic when they become the most important characters in HBP.

Is everything in the film given some explanation?
It's really hard for me to remember, because I don't need explanations. I was never confused at any point. Heh heh.

Umm, I was with a friend of mine who didn't remember the book all that well and she understood what was going on. She enjoyed herself. I suppose non-readers will have a few more questions. I suppose the only confusing part might be the whole prophesy thing? Maybe?

You all are so lucky to have already seen the movie! But I just got my tickets - I'm going to the midnight show tomorrow night! :D

I am curious though - I asked this on the discussion thread, but I only got a partial answer. I was wondering about the scene with Grawp - I know what Ron and Hermione do there, but what about Harry? Nobody has mentioned him at all.

I was wondering about Draco too. Although Rickman and Felton ARE Snape and Malfoy to me, they've been given such a...reduced role that I wonder how it'll look realistic when they become the most important characters in HBP.

Well, when it comes down to it, it will all depend on how the HBP movie is made. If they choose to make the movies revolve *almost entirely* around Harry, there will still likely be less scenes shown of Draco. Even the scene with Draco and Snape in the bathroom could be shortened to "Draco and Snape in Snape's potions cupboard" like they did with Karkarov's scene with Snape.

And Harry won't be casting Sectumsempra on Draco, since that would be a bad thing to show Harry do, even if it is integral to the storyline in some way. I mean, let's face it: something like that would drive the movie rating straight to R, and they *do* want to keep the movies at PG-13...

And Harry won't be casting Sectumsempra on Draco, since that would be a bad thing to show Harry do, even if it is integral to the storyline in some way. I mean, let's face it: something like that would drive the movie rating straight to R, and they *do* want to keep the movies at PG-13...Right. He would probably just cast levicorpus...Snape would have the same mad effect. Even though I would look foward to Malfoy bleeding almost to death, that would give it an R rating.

I can't beleive that no one has asked this...but in what context is voldemort in a suit, and does it work?

I can't beleive that no one has asked this...but in what context is voldemort in a suit, and does it work?I do believe that this has been answered. I think that it was in one of Harry's dreams, but I haven't seen the movie yet, so you should probably ignore me! :lol:

I can't beleive that no one has asked this...but in what context is voldemort in a suit, and does it work?

Harry is hallucinating, thinking he is seeing Voldemort in various places.

I haven't even seen the movie yet and I figured that out. :)

I can't beleive that no one has asked this...but in what context is voldemort in a suit, and does it work?

:wow: how did I forget that?

Also, I'm presuming Aberforth is barely seen?

Also, I'm presuming Aberforth is barely seen?
Aberforth is so darn cool!!

But yes, he's hardly seen. There is a very funny moment that only fans will get. I laughed.

Aberforth is so darn cool!!

But yes, he's hardly seen. There is a very funny moment that only fans will get. I laughed.

Does it have to do with goats? :D

Just got back from the preview. I have to say, it was totally AWESOME.

Harry is hallucinating, thinking he is seeing Voldemort in various places.

I haven't even seen the movie yet and I figured that out. :)

Almost! He's having a dream.


Am I allowed to post what I thought if it's in spoiler tags?

Does it have to do with goats? :D
:whistle:

Yeah. Hopefully. What was the snake attack like?

It was very quick, choppy, and disjointed like a dream would be. And the way the camea moved made you actually feel like you were looking through the eyes of a snake. When Nagini is actually attacking the camera shoots towards Mr. Weasley in very quick fluid movements just like an actual snake attacking prey. I was actually incredibly impressed with this part.Mr. Weasley's bloody face will break your heart though...

It was very quick, choppy, and disjointed like a dream would be. And the way the camea moved made you actually feel like you were looking through the eyes of a snake. When Nagini is actually attacking the camera shoots towards Mr. Weasley in very quick fluid movements just like an actual snake attacking prey. I was actually incredibly impressed with this part.Mr. Weasley's bloody face will break your heart though...


Oh, I wanted to look away when he started getting bitten repeatedly. I felt so bad for him, it looked really painful. So bloody....poor Arthur.

In any of the flashbacks to the previous movies, do we see Richard Harris's Dumbledore in any of these flashbacks?

I don't recall seing him. The clips were so quick though, I suppose I could've missed it. The ony flashback that I actually remember being from a previous movie is a very young Harry looking at his parents in the Mirror of Erised when Snape walks up behind him and gets on him for not sheilding his mind.

You all are so lucky to have already seen the movie! But I just got my tickets - I'm going to the midnight show tomorrow night! :D

I am curious though - I asked this on the discussion thread, but I only got a partial answer. I was wondering about the scene with Grawp - I know what Ron and Hermione do there, but what about Harry? Nobody has mentioned him at all.

I am the same way..4 of my friends and myself all bought tickets 30 min. away, and bought 9 others for our friends, and we are going to the midnight showing (my first one)!

I am trying to avoid spoilers though so I get some surprises in the movie! :)

Oh, I think you answered this before but I hope you don't mind answering this again: If someone has not read the book, will they be able to understand the movie's plot?

The plot is in fact more complex than the previous films. I think they do an effective job of getting the point across to the audience. They don't really dwell on anything for long though. The pace is very fast. I think most people will understand it, but they'll probably get a clearer idea the second time through.

I just got back from seeing it and I am very disappointed. I mean as avid harry potters fans how can yall stick up for this movie. I want to know how they made easily the best book of the series, so far, quite lame. Don't get me wrong...it was ok, but I was expecting so much more.

order from best to worst:
1) PoA
2) GoF
3) SS
4) OotP
5) CoS

I just got back from seeing it and I am very disappointed. I mean as avid harry potters fans how can yall stick up for this movie. I want to know how they made easily the best book of the series, so far, quite lame. Don't get me wrong...it was ok, but I was expecting so much more.

order from best to worst:
1) PoA
2) GoF
3) SS
4) OotP
5) CoS

As I said in a previous post, you cannot go in expecting it to be the book on film. You have to realize that to make it work as a film there have to liberties taken with the medium of which you are working to make it effective. As a member of the audience it is up to you to differentiate between the book and movie as two separate entities.

I have the ability to do so so that is why I can "stick up for it."

P.S. - OoTP was not the best book of the series thus far. :no:





oh and btw.....just imho

1) GoF
2) CoS
3) OoTP
4) PoA
5) SS

I just got back from seeing it and I am very disappointed. I mean as avid harry potters fans how can yall stick up for this movie. I want to know how they made easily the best book of the series, so far, quite lame. Don't get me wrong...it was ok, but I was expecting so much more.

order from best to worst:
1) PoA
2) GoF
3) SS
4) OotP
5) CoS

I really don't see how it could be worse than SS. I don't really see how it could be worse than any of the others movies. They were all so badly acted and cheesy. This one actually seems somewhat intelligent. And Imelda Staunton has been getting rave reviews. Some go as far to say that she should get an Oscar nomination. :relax:

But I haven't seen it yet, so I guess I can't judge. I really hope the movie is being misunderstood. And if not, there's still the book to look forward to.

I thought the movie portrayed the book really well. I have to say, I was impressed. Although many more 'amusing' parts of the book were taken out, e.g:

- When the Weasley twins create the swamp to get back at Umbridge (although the fireworks were really good)
- The Quibbler Interview

... I thought the film 'matured' really well (much like the books) and that the overall theme and plot of the original book was conveyed effectively, especially seeing as they squeezed it into 2hrs 20mins (it definitely didn't feel like that long).

I honestly thought after seeing it that it would've been confusing for those in the cinema who hadn't read the book, but it appears I was wrong! Two people I went with were in that situation and although they had a couple of questions when we came out, they found it really enjoyable.

Amazing. Amazing. I saw it this evening at an invite-only screening...all I can say is amazing. Actually, I typed up a whole novel into my LiveJournal, but it's so LONG I doubt you would want me to paste it all here. A tiny note...

Every moment with Sirius is freaking fantastic. FANTASTIC. One of the top five moments of the film HAD to be when Sirius punched Lucius in the face. BRILLIANT. Another top five moment? "I'm sorry, Professor. I must not tell lies." A GREAT add-in. Everyone, myself included, cheered like mad at that part.

I'm still in shock. SO good. I will be seeing it at the midnight showing tomorrow night...here's hoping it'll finally sink in. :|

Actually, there was only one thing cut that depressed me...
Where was Harry's fit of rage in Dumbledore's office? That was BY FAR the best part and it was cut out. That was the only thing that got to me. Generally when I go to the films I firmly tell myself that it is NOT really an extension of the books, it is a totally different thing....but I was still rather sad they took that scene out.

Actually, there was only one thing cut that depressed me...
Where was Harry's fit of rage in Dumbledore's office? That was BY FAR the best part and it was cut out. That was the only thing that got to me. Generally when I go to the films I firmly tell myself that it is NOT really an extension of the books, it is a totally different thing....but I was still rather sad they took that scene out.
He did scream "LOOK AT ME!!" at the old codger. He did have his moments of rage.

All in all, though, I think they left a lot of the angst out because it made Harry so unlikeable.

I'm liking the sound of this so far. I'm glad they cut out alot of the novel. It makes it more accessible for non-fans. I'll actually be able to have an intelligent Harry Potter discussion with members of my family. They wont read the books, but ARE interested in the story and I think a streamlined Order of the Phoenix would be perfect for them because the government dynamic is intriguing on its own.

Actually, there was only one thing cut that depressed me...
Where was Harry's fit of rage in Dumbledore's office? That was BY FAR the best part and it was cut out. That was the only thing that got to me. Generally when I go to the films I firmly tell myself that it is NOT really an extension of the books, it is a totally different thing....but I was still rather sad they took that scene out.

They did have that scene! And yes that was one of theee highlights of how good his acting got.. good :D