Miscellaneous Actor Speculation v4

Cho could be Marietta. It would make her part bigger in Film 5. Katie Leung was a real find.



Oooh, good idea! That would make a greater impact on Harry & Cho's relationship than just quarrelling at Mme. Pettifoot's, and her siding with Marietta. The relationship would be over, over, over if Cho was the one who told Umbridge.

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This is Rachel and yes she does sorta have that weird vibe about her lol but is she england?because i know somewhere JK said that she didnt want any Americans in the movies.

I think she looks like Hermoine or rather Hermoine the way she should have looke with big front teeth. I dont know if she is english. She looks it.

Just checked. She is English. Lived in London till the age of 8. Now lives in Surrey (County south of London). She starred in Peter Pan as Wendy I think. Her first acting role.

I dont think she is a suitable Luna. Again she is too good looking (Like Emma). We need one with more plain looks I think and bigger eyes possibly.

This girl by far looks like the best bet...the one way though they could mess this up is by casting someone who is weird in a hyperactive sort of way instead of the calm, dreamy Luna way...
Btw this girl reminds me of the boy they put as Colin Creevey.

:lol: now that i look at it she does. I knew she looked familar. maybe their related.....:shrug:

They are casting an unknown and last I heard they were down to four choices...

an actor with a natural, wild beauty, but a really flat voice. that'd prolly do it. it'll be hard to find a kid with that kind of natural beauty tho at that age.

Lavender has been in both PoA and GoF, but was uncredited in the latter of the two...

Cho could be Marietta. It would make her part bigger in Film 5. Katie Leung was a real find.
That sounds like a great idea, and it would make the harry and Cho break up very obvious.
Ian McKellan might like doing Aberforth, since Aberforth's a real crazy version of Dumbledore, totally off the wall. It could be really fun. Especially if the part gets bigger toward the end. I agree, pretty small part now.
Somehow I don't think Ian McKellan would be interested, I think I've read somewhere that he's done his fair share of wizards in movies, but it would be great if he did though.

Madam Bones (good for Judy Dench). Great if we could actually SEE the duel in Book 6 with her. I wonder if Christopher Columbus' daughter will return as Susan Bones?
I initually thought Judy Dench would have been really good for Umbridge, but if Imelda Staunton is doing that, I'm not complaining, and it would be great to see Dame Judy as Madame Bones, however it's such a minor role, I'm sure they'll use someone unknown. Re Susan Bones, I'm sure I saw the same girl from PS in GoF, only briefly, so I would assume that they are still using her (but hey I could be wrong). I'm curious if they are going to make her have a speaking part though, because I assume she's American, and we all know the policy...

On another note, I know I praised Joely Richardson as Narcissa only a few posts ago, and I'm still for her, but I also had a bit of a brain storm, and thought of someone else for that role as well, Hermione Norris, from Cold Feet, Berkeley Park and Wire in the Blood, just to name a few British TV-series she's done. She'd be the right age, and can look really cold and icy if you know what I mean.

Hermione Norris

With such a name, she could only fit in Harry Potter universe...;)

they should go for an unknown, cuz if you notice, all of the adults are really talented stars that people like, and the kids are all unknowns.
Well, that's not absolutely true. Tom Felton was a child actor way before the HP movies. he was in a version of Anna and the King, and also in a movie of "The Borrowers." But other than that I guess you're right, all of the other kids were unknowns...

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Dakota Fanning looks a lot more like I imagined Luna. But she's too young, in Harry's 5th year, Luna starts her 4th. And this girl defeniatly doesn't look 14 at the moment.

How about Christina Aguilera?
I know I know she's not an actress and definately not a teenager.
But when i was readin Ootp for the first time and when JK was describing luna's appearance, a distinct picture of Christina came drifting into my mind.
Dirty blond hair
very thin and pale eyebrows
And a permanant shocked look

Can u see now......

Raechel McAdams is a bit too old, but she looks like an older Luna.
Rachel Hurd Wood is PERFECT. But alack alay they're choosing a new face.
I like Jenna Boyd, but she's too young.

I want it to be someone that isn't an actress yet but if I did want to have a famed actress to play it, why not Hilary Duff.. I mean, I like her.. She can make a cool but not actually perfect Luna..

tonks - Kiera knightsley
bellatrix - catherine zeta jones

I don't want to sound offensive but there is no way I want Christina Aguilera or Hilary Duff or any of those 'teen' princesses [current or former] on the set of these movies. This is not some stereotypical American teen romance, it's distinctly British, and casting people like Hilary Duff who project the image of a clean-cut 'all american' teen sweetheart, would overshadow that completely.

I don't want to sound offensive but there is no way I want Christina Aguilera or Hilary Duff or any of those 'teen' princesses [current or former] on the set of these movies. This is not some stereotypical American teen romance, it's distinctly British, and casting people like Hilary Duff who project the image of a clean-cut 'all american' teen sweetheart, would overshadow that completely.

That's not offensive. I think that's just good sense. NO WAY could either of them be Luna, it would just be oh-so-wrong and I would have to cry alot if it ever happened, Luna is one of my favourite characters in the series.

I don't want to sound offensive but there is no way I want Christina Aguilera or Hilary Duff or any of those 'teen' princesses [current or former] on the set of these movies. This is not some stereotypical American teen romance, it's distinctly British, and casting people like Hilary Duff who project the image of a clean-cut 'all american' teen sweetheart, would overshadow that completely.

I agree, and I think it's pretty safe to say they won't be in any Harry Potter movies any time soon. Hilary Duff should stick to the teen dream movies and Christina should stick singing or whatever it is she does nowadays.

Anyways, I think it's great that they're casting unknowns, then it doesn't turn into something where people are going to see just because so-and-so's in it (though there are some pretty big names in it already- Ralph Fiennes, Alan Rickman, Maggie Smith, and then the kids now too).

Whoever said that Cho could take Marietta's role, I think that's a great idea. It would expand her role and make it so the whole audience (the ones that don't read the books) would know that Cho and Harry are done forever.

Guys, just because LOTR and Harry Potter are more or less in the same genre, doesn't mean that the whole cast of LOTR needs to show up in the HP films. Be original, please.

Cho could be Marietta. It would make her part bigger in Film 5. Katie Leung was a real find.
That's a great idea! It would help expand on Cho's character without altering canon too much. I really like Katie Leung and she really ought to play a bigger part in OotP.

This is what i think (agreeing with most of what has already been said, or not!)


Bill Nighy as Mundungus (I laughed when i read this as a suggestion earlier. I can really picture him in this role!)

Bob Hoskins as Slughorn (This is one of the only ones out of the very many suggestions that were made that i was convinced by. Others *look* like him, but... not enough)

Stuart Townsent as Firenze (He even *looks* like a centour should! His voice would really give that aloofness characteristic centours have aswell)

Colin Salmon as Kingsley (No Doubt!)


Finding the right Narcissa and Bellatrix would be tough. I like a few of the suggestions that were made, but i just cant say 'Yes, thats the one!'
Tonks and Luna i believe should be a new face. Both are quite young.
Cho was a find. And so was Oliva. I know Alan Rickman knew Sean from working on 'The Winter guest', but he was still unknown.

Also, does anyone have any idea on who would or should play Neville's grandmother?

Well... since it's rumoured that Tonks is going to be played by laura fraser, I did something to try to convince me of that:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/Mary_Lupin/tonksbyme.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/Mary_Lupin/tonksanimation.gif
And, as the French say: voi la! lol Now, I love the idea of laura being Tonks.

Brilliant idea, the Cho-replace-Marietta. Very clever, won't be surprised if they planned that.

I am so excited for the knowledge that they shall announce Luna, Shacklebolt, and Tonks sometime in January. I'm ready to know, now!

Apparently, Tonks is an unknown.....am i right?

Let's see: for Scrimgeour, let's use Brian Connolly. For Tonks, Posh Spice...don't ask... For Umbridge, Terry Jones (of Monty Python - he was always playing British women)... For the othe rminister, heck, I say Tony Blair!

I would cast myself in the role of Kingsley Shacklebolt - just gotta shave my head and lose my Hawaiian accent, brah!

Well... since it's rumoured that Tonks is going to be played by laura fraser, I did something to try to convince me of that:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/Mary_Lupin/tonksbyme.jpg
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/Mary_Lupin/tonksanimation.gif
And, as the French say: voi la! lol Now, I love the idea of laura being Tonks.

I can almost see that. I mean, she isn't going to be just as a picture, but she does look almost Tonks-esque. She'd be good I think.

Hey.

What's everyone think about Judi Dench as Neville's grandmother?

She was in that film with Maggie Smith this year...

I think the obvious choice for Narcissa is Tilda Swinton. Just look at her acting as the white witch in Narnia! She is british, pale enough, and a fantastic actress.

Bob Hoskins as Slughorn. Or Jim Broadbent.

Kate Winslet for Tonks.

As Bellatrix, Charlotte Chatton (Titanic), she's from London.

Neville's Grandmother: Rosemary Harris.

I also absolutely crave for Jeremy Irons to be cast (preferrably as a Death Eater, but he would work as Scrimgeour)

You know, i think Laura Fraser might be able to pull of the role as Tonks...

She looks young enough, which was my fear. Lupin (David) looks, well he is, younger than Alan Rickman and Gary Oldman. I was afriad that they might get a Tonks that almost looks his age... I remember crying so hard at that situation in the sixth book. I wouldn't be happy if they ruined it

Rosemary Harris is another good choice for Neville's grandmother. I do admit that iv only seen her in Blow Dry (not a fan of spiderman). Then again, iv only seen a few of Judi Dench's films aswell...

I havn't seen Narnia yet, and actually really wasn't planning to. I have seen Constantine though, and even though i thought the movie itself was **** (i really didn't like the plot) i would never blame a **** plot on the actor/actress itself... maybe i should just go see Narnia...
She needs to soften her features. She's very sharp, isn't she? Or would that work better portraying Narcissa? Hmmm....

I still cant see anyone as Bellatrix. I think i'll recap on the earlier suggestions... try and picture one with mattered hair like Sirius's....

Oh, I have another tricky role to cast: Fenrir Greyback!

Also remember that JKR portrayed Narcissa to be as pale as "a drowned person". Tilda would be great!

I saw someone suggesting Christopher Lee as Phineas Nigellus. That's a stroke of genius!

What about Alfred Molina as Scrimgeour?

I think, and I think I got this idea from Entertainment Weekly, that Daniel Day Lewis would be the PERFECT Fenrir.

And Professor Moody- I love the Christopher Lee as Phineas.

tilda swinton won't do it, cos she's been in chronicles of narnia. it's like the same reason ian mckellen won't do it. they're too well known for something too similar. i love jeremy irons!!! e's such a good actor, i think he'd be good as either greyback or scrimgeour.

What's everyone think about Judi Dench as Neville's grandmother?
I think that'd be great, I like Judi Dench. I think she could definitely pull it off. Plus she's really nice and I'd just like to see her in a Harry Potter film at all.

tilda swinton won't do it, cos she's been in chronicles of narnia. it's like the same reason ian mckellen won't do it. they're too well known for something too similar. i love jeremy irons!!! e's such a good actor, i think he'd be good as either greyback or scrimgeour.

Wow! I love Jeremy Irons and he would be perfect and really scary as Greyback! :tu:

Well... since it's rumoured that Tonks is going to be played by laura fraser, I did something to try to convince me of that:
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y205/Mary_Lupin/tonksanimation.gif
I love the idea of laura being Tonks.
That picture does look almost exactly like the Tonks I think of when I read her name. Laura Fraser definitely could pull off the look of Tonks. However, her voice is another thing. I never thought of Tonks having that Scottish voice that Laura has. However, she would definitely be my choice for Tonks. I loved her in A Knight's Tale, which is the only movie that I have seen her in.

For Greyback, I can see Rufus Sewell. He can easily pull off that evil feel.
What's everyone think about Judi Dench as Neville's grandmother?
Actually, I bet that Neville's grandmother will probably be cut out of the movies altogether.

I love the Christopher Lee as Phineas.

Although I love Christopher Lee, I must admit, I couldn't see him as Phineas, I still think that role would be played perfectly by Tim Curry:agree: :tu:

Can you post pictures? I'm sorry I can't always visualize who you're talking about !

Unfortunately I'm rather computer illiterate so I have no idea how to post pictures, but Christopher Lee was Saruman in 'The Lord of the Rings' an d Tim Curry is most famous for his role in 'The Rocky Horror Picture Show', however he has played in many other movies, my favourite after 'Rocky Horror' would have to be 'Clue'.

Try going in on IMDB.com, they usually have a picture of the various actors, that's what I do when I can't remember who we're talking about

I can't think what her name, or even character name, is, but for Umbridge the judge who appears in The Practice and Ally McBeal, quite short, short grey hair, talks with a slight lisp. Each time I see her I automatically picture Umbridge and also when I read OotP I picture this lady.

Man, if they got Catherine Zeta Jones to play Bellatrix, I'd be in the theater over and over and over....:drool:

I like the idea of Kelly MacDonald as Tonks. She was wonderful in Trainspotting and Gosford Park.

Bob Hoskins would also be great as Slughorn.

Who do you guys think will play Kingsley Shaklebolt

Who do you guys think will play Kingsley Shaklebolt

Colin Salmon. I can't see any other actor playing Kingsley. ;)

The New York Times reported today that Dan Radcliffe got about $14.4 million for OotP. I bet Emma and Rupert get close to that. I wonder if Warner Bros. will keep them around for 6 & 7 when they have to shell out that kind of cash?

(Remember what happened to the guy that played Tank in "The Matrix"? He asked for more money and they replaced him for the sequels.)

It would be nice to see new faces, I must say. But they must act, for that matter, yes?

For some reason, I feel Angelina Jolie should play Narcissa or Bellatrix. I know, I know, not British, but come on! I had this feeling it would work if they gave it a try.

I think I might just be mental though.

...Or Nicole Kidman.... -hides from the evil posts-

See Angelina in her blonde-ness:
http://ambitious.deep-ice.com/images/narcissa.jpg

Who do you guys think will play Kingsley Shaklebolt

I would love to see Seal in that role, I just think he suits Kingsley:tu:

The New York Times reported today that Dan Radcliffe got about $14.4 million for OotP. I bet Emma and Rupert get close to that. I wonder if Warner Bros. will keep them around for 6 & 7 when they have to shell out that kind of cash?

(Remember what happened to the guy that played Tank in "The Matrix"? He asked for more money and they replaced him for the sequels.)

Look at how much they were willing to pay the Friends cast - they were making money off them so why shouldn't the cast get some of the rewards too?

Also, don't always believe what you read in the newspapers. I used Friends as an example - and even in that case although they were paid a lot they certainly didn't get the amount that was quoted in some papers.

I just rented Charlie and the Chocolate Factory; why oh why didn't they start the Harry Potter movies three years later? Freddie Highmore (Charlie) would have made an outstanding Harry! For one thing, he can act - Daniel Radcliffe didn't get the hang of acting until GoF - and for another, he just looks more the part of Harry. The gluttonous German kid would have made a really good Dudley, too.

I can't see Angelina Jolie playing Bellatrix. I always picture Lara Flynn Boyle. It's too bad she isn't British.

Christopher Lee would make a great Phineas. I love the idea of Tilda as Narcissa. But it's kind of a small role for her...

Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje would make a great Kingsley, I hadn't thought of him before. I feel kind of bad for Adewale, though - he's always going to be typecast.

Christopher Lee would make a perfect Phineas. However, I think that Phineas may be cut out of the movies until he plays a more important role. If he plays a bigger role in book 7, then they should just introduce him in the seventh movie.

I like the idea of Mark Addy as Slughorn. Yes, he is quite young for Slughorn, however he looks and sounds like the Slughorn I picture - just age him a tad.

I still stand by Laura Fraser for Tonks.

I still stand by Laura Fraser for Tonks.

Me too: :tu:
She's just perfect!
I hope it's not only a rumour...

I'm really desperate for Ade Edmondson to play Mundungus! I think he's perfect. Even if he's not Mundungus, i'll be happy for him to just show up somewhere. I love him.
Tonks is the one im really hoping they cast perfectly. I love her character. I have no idea who i'd like to see play her though.
I think Joanna Lumley would be great as Sirius' mum

Has any word been said about the teenage Marauder possibles? Or teenage Lily and Snape? I've been dying for this scene ever since OotP came out, and I hope they cast wonderful actors (or in the case of teenage Lily, actress) for them all.

Any word on Luna?
I think that very short actress is the one from The Year of Living Dangerously, Linda Hunt ???
Imelda Staunton is my first pick, but she'd do it well too.

Any word on Luna?
I think that very short actress is the one from The Year of Living Dangerously, Linda Hunt ???
Imelda Staunton is my first pick, but she'd do it well too.

You mean Umbridge? I REALLY doubt that Imelda Staunton could possibly pull off Luna's role, since she is 49 years old, and Luna is 15 in OotP...:D

BTW, Imelda is officially confirmed as Umbridge anyway (there is a thread).

Has any one heard the rumor that Liam Neeson will play Rufus Scrimgeour in HBP? In his wikipedia profile he's listed as having the part. Wiki is not always reliable, but could there be some truth to it?

Has any one heard the rumor that Liam Neeson will play Rufus Scrimgeour in HBP? In his wikipedia profile he's listed as having the part. Wiki is not always reliable, but could there be some truth to it?

Wishful thinking on someone's part. I could change his profile & say he's playing Luna. :lol:

I'm trying to imagine a Slughorn, and i have absolutely no idea who could pull him off. I keep seeing David Jason :p But i doubt that.
Helena Bonham Carter was my first Trelawny choice, i hope she gets in a movie!
My sister just told me about the Bill Bailey as Mundungus rumour :grumble: I don't like that man very much. Ade Edmondson please!

I always imagined Umbridge looking like the fat nanny off "The super nanny"

Wishful thinking on someone's part. I could change his profile & say he's playing Luna. :lol:

ROFLMAO!

No, no, you got it all wrong. He plays the voice of Luna's lion hat...:lol:

Brian Cox (Evil greek king Agamemnon in Troy) could do Slughorn.

Oh, and Peter O'Toole (Nice king Priam in Troy) looks more like I picture Dumbledore than Michael Gambon does. (Aberforth?)

Brian Cox (Evil greek king Agamemnon in Troy) could do Slughorn.

Oh, and Peter O'Toole (Nice king Priam in Troy) looks more like I picture Dumbledore than Michael Gambon does. (Aberforth?)

Ah yes, Brian Cox! I think he could actually be quite a successful Slughorn.
I read somewhere that as well as thinking of casting Richard Harris, they thought about Peter O'Toole? I love Peter O'Toole i think he's a great actor.

I hope that Liz Hurley is not cast in a role, i personally don't think she is that good an actress. She has a great aura about her though.

I would love Rowan Atkinson to play Phinias Nigellus, he could make him really negitive and cynical which would be really cool. He also looks a bit like the Lexicon interpritation of Phinias.

I love the idea of Tilda as Narcissa. But it's kind of a small role for her...

I love that idea. Tilda Swinton is one of my favourite actresses - she'd be perfect as the cool and regal Narcissa.

I'm trying to imagine a Slughorn, and i have absolutely no idea who could pull him off

Jim Broadbent of Moulin Rouge/Bridget Jones' Diary etc would make a perfect Slughorn :)

Is Jack Davenport too old to play Bill? He's dreamy! :love:

I love that idea. Tilda Swinton is one of my favourite actresses - she'd be perfect as the cool and regal Narcissa.

Wow, I completely agree. She did wonderfully as the White Witch in The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe movie. Yes, yes, yes! The perfect Narcissa Malfoy. She's shown she can pull off that regal, nose-turned-up air that makes Narcissa Malfoy who she is. I'd love to see how she could work alongside Tom with the Malkin's scene in HBP, if they leave it in. :) Wow, this is the first time I've read something on this board and gone, "YES THAT ACTOR IS PERFECT!" Good job. :P

Tilda Swinton - I agree, she would be perfect as Narcissa

hmm..Nicole Kidman ( that would be interesting, Dan wouldn't function as he is in love with her( I think) :lol:

I have always pictured Catherine Zeta-Jones as Bellatrix (I always pictured bellatrix as pretty but they can make any actor look like well ****)I think she is perfect...she's got this evil look about her in movies :lol:

Rowan Atkinson to play Phinias Nigellus.:lol: :lol: :lol:
:tu: :tu: Great :tu: :tu:

Lavender Brown
Lavender Brown
Lavender Brown

I think Lavender Brown is already cast. When Ginny leads Ron back into the Gryffindor common room after he asks Fleur to go to the dance with him, there is a girl Ron's age on her other side. I'm thinking that's Lavender.

Hannah Abbott
Hannah Abbott

Was in multiple scenes:wearing the Potter Sucks badge & sneering at Harry in the courtyard (Harry: let me pass!) With Cedric supporters at final challenge other places usually with Cedric or Hufflepuffs.So she's still playing Hannah Abbott (ie not just an extra).

Angelina, Gryffindor Quiddich Team Member
Angelina, Gryffindor Quiddich Team Member
Angelina, Gryffindor Quiddich Team Member

Angelina was in tons of shots with Hermione, not just the Fred (or George) asks to ball scene:Hermione in Gryffindor Common Room after first task ("Boys") at end in courtyard when Krum hands Hermione his address othersSo I'm thinking that Angelina will be back (she's Captain in 5th year). I thought she was great!

Any other candidates for Kinsley Shacklebolt.

Angelina is confirmed to return & Fred & George - Yippee !!!! Kiera Hamilton is her name.

I meant Lavender Brown was the girl on RON'S other side in the common room after he asked Fleur to the dance.

Anyone know anything about David Thewlis and Brendan Gleeson returning?

A personal favourtie of mine is Claudia Black (http://scifi.punt.nl/upload/tv/stargate_claudia_black.gif) for Narcissa. She has a kind of dark appeal to her.

Maybe Miranda Otto (http://film.onet.pl/_i/plotki/duze/m/miranda_otto_1.jpg) for Tonks. A couple of wigs may be needed though.

Hehe, just noticed their both Australian. Coincedence. =p

Do you not think Claudia Black :drool: would make a good Bellatrix. I think Tonks is allready cast.

I'd love to see Robbie Gee from Snatch and Underworld (I think that's his name) as Shacklebolt.

I could see Kelly McDonald as Tonks. David Yates has directed her before in State of Play.

I'd love Bob Hoskins as Slughorn.

There is a casting call for the part of Luna Lovegood !

http://www.hpana.com/news.19225.html

If some of you are interested, well...go for it!You must be from Uk or Ireland!

Tonks: Rachel Weisz (or one unknown actress) - Rachel has the vibe of bravery and love for life just like Tonks
Bellatrix: Elizabeth Hurley (All the time I read about Bella, I picture her a crazy, but sexy woman... Liz Hurley just is perfect for the job)
Narcissa: Helena B. Carter or Joanna Lumley
Slughorn: Christopher Lee (He would in all the three movie histories: star wars, HP and LoTR)
Scrimgeour: Simon Callow

My comments: I can't see Judi Dench doing anything in HP, there is no character she would fit in (she is a great actress). Hugh Grant... what a joke??? I don't like him.

I'd love to see Robbie Gee from Snatch and Underworld (I think that's his name) as Shacklebolt.Great :tu: :tu: :tu:

There was a well known actor, he played the evil Police Commissioner in NOBLE HOUSE with Pierce Brosnan, who was at the World Cup of Quiddich in GOF when they arrived at the campsite. I was wondering if he'd be SCRIMEGEOUR...

I heard Miranda will not return. Too expensive probably. They need to prune it down in terms of the characters and improve the intensity of the story. OOP is psychological drama, & horror, not so much action. Also, more kids, more ensemble work.

Slughorn: Christopher Lee (He would in all the three movie histories: star wars, HP and LoTR)
Cool
Hugh Grant... what a joke??? I don't like him.
I think he'd be great as the Muggle Prime Minister, considering it's a brief role and he's already played a British Prime Minister. It would be delicious !

There is a casting call for the part of Luna Lovegood !
Darn it - why am I forty one and from California? I would be a great Luna!

Hogwarts

I was wondering if it was at all related to Miss Piggy and Kermit the Frog.
Hog + (what do you get from frogs or toads?) Warts.

Cissa- Joely Richardson
Bella- Helena Bonham-Carter

Kelly Macdonald for SOMETHING, I love her so much. She's like 30 so she might be too old for Tonks, but she'd be great. Irish. I like the Irish.

Hugh Grant for the other Minister.

Christopher Lee for Scrimgeour

... can't think of any more...

i've been looking through this thread and i have a question. i know that only british people are supposed to play the roles, but there have been names like catherine zeta-jones and nicole kidman bandied about. So i'm wondering if it's all british controlled countries? or the uk? so britain is a go ... what about scotland? whales? australia? new zealand? canada? northern ireland? help please!

Kelly MacDonald is Scottish!

I think james Grint(Rupert(Ron)Grint's brother) would make an awesome student, but maybe that's because i think he;s hot! lol ;)

i've been looking through this thread and i have a question. i know that only british people are supposed to play the roles, but there have been names like catherine zeta-jones and nicole kidman bandied about. So i'm wondering if it's all british controlled countries? or the uk? so britain is a go ... what about scotland? whales? australia? new zealand? canada? northern ireland? help please!

That's only the UK.
Scotland, Ireland and Wales are ok, because they are Britain.
So, Catherine Zeta-Jones (who is Welsh) could be in an HP movie.
As for Australia, New Zealand or Canada... it can't be. So, there's no chance that Nicole Kidman will ever get a part in HP movies.

Actually Tilda Swinton in a black wig could be a great Bellatrix...

Kate Beckinsale as Bella?

That's only the UK.
Scotland, Ireland and Wales are ok, because they are Britain.
So, Catherine Zeta-Jones (who is Welsh) could be in an HP movie.
As for Australia, New Zealand or Canada... it can't be. So, there's no chance that Nicole Kidman will ever get a part in HP movies.
Thanks!!!:D

Joely Richardson for Narcissa...
http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:SNgup11oVkVuUM:images.tvnz.co.nz/tvnz_images/tv2/programmes/nip_tuck/joely_richardson_d.jpg

... and Anna Chancellor for Bellatrix!!
http://images.google.co.uk/images?q=tbn:TN7ZpCHmNLWDKM:www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/images/bank/programmes_tv/drama/spooks/300juliet.jpg
A Quick lesson in Britishness...
UK = United Kingdom, is comprised of England, Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland and the Shetland and Orkney Islands (although these are technically part of Scotland). Also referred to as Great Britain or just plain old Britain. We are governed by Parliament seated in London (England) and the Queen is our Head of State. Kelly MacDonald is Scottish - a good rule of thumb for the uninitiated - Mac is Scottish and O' prefixes are Irish - although Mc can be either...:lol:

New Zealand, Australia, Canada et all are part of the British Commonwealth - the remnants of the British Empire (parts of America were part of this but acheived independance in that little skirmish you all like to remember in July..) which mostly doesn't mean anything anymore except that they can have our Queen on their money and stamps and our flag appears on some of theirs. Oh - and they can compete in the Commonwealth Games (like a mini Olympics)

JK Rowling is using the success of her creations to assist the ailing British Film Industry - hence the British only rule. The story is set in Britain about British people after all. Plenty still going on in America so don't get your knickers all twisty like!:p Remember when all this started and Warner wanted Haley Joel Osmont???:lol: some really good British actors here (or is it just because I love this version of P&P the best?)..Pride and Predjudice (http://www.geocities.com/**2sjh/thecast.htm) (if it won't work then replace the two ** with the letters b s, I can't seem to make it link - i think the problem is that the mods have made this acronym illegal so it is messing with this particular link!)

I know an actor who would be perfect to play Fenrir Greyback... Jack Nicholson (ok, so he's not British... I don't know of any good British actors to play the part)... the way he acted in The Shining just creeped me out... :scared:

I really llike the idea of Chirstopher Lee as Rufus Scrimgeour. He has that whole dirty secert look to him. Like i could get my hands dirty if i want to in your blood. Well maybe not that violently but he would be great to hate.
Oh Antonio David Lyons would be a great Kingsley. i Know hes dont british but he had a great accent in Hotel Rwanda. or maybe Don Cheadle.:D

Kelly MacDonald is Scottish!

You're right, why did I say Irish? I think I actually knew that, too! Whatever, much love for all Brits/Irish.

How about Cynthia Nixon as Narcissa? Too bad she's American, she looks so much like how I pictured Narcissa. Tilda Swinton would also make a nice Narcissa.

Christopher Lee would be an awesome Scrimgeour. Hell, he could play any part he wanted to in the Harry Potter movies. I'd like to see him play Dumbledore, but that's never going to happen.

Do you not think Claudia Black would make a good Bellatrix. I think Tonks is allready cast.

Claudia Black would be a rather...pointy...Bellatrix. But I guess that makes sense, she would have just gotten out of jail.

Joanna Lumley as Bellatrix? Interesting....

I like the idea of Rachel Weisz as Tonks. It's just that I pictured Tonks as being in her early twenties. But Rachel is still pretty young.

About Luna's casting : still 400 girls on the race !

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4620000/newsid_4620300/4620392.stm

I'd really like Jack Black to play Slughorn, pitty he's American (I think?)

Joanna Lumley as Bellatrix? Interesting.....
Is this the Absolutely Fabulous chick?

What about Elijah Wood as James Potter?

I think Tilda Swinton for Narcissa
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and Helen McCrory for Bella!
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Is this the Absolutely Fabulous chick?

What about Elijah Wood as James Potter?

I would like Elijah Wood as James Potter. He looks like Daniel Radcliffe!

I would like Elijah Wood as James Potter. He looks like Daniel Radcliffe!

That would be a RIOT, especially with Dan doing all his Elijah-impersonation autograph signing! :lol:

Elijah Wood for James Potter !:D :D :D
And Elijah would get to be in 2 of 3 major episodic epics of our time (missed Star Wars).:tu: :tu: :tu:

I know an actor who would be perfect to play Fenrir Greyback... Jack Nicholson (ok, so he's not British... I don't know of any good British actors to play the part)... the way he acted in The Shining just creeped me out... :scared:
I think there are plenty of scruffy, mean-looking, great actors in Britian. Don't sell yourselves short! :lol:

Talking about who would be a good James, i dont know about you but this his how i imagine him!

29382:drool: (Justin Chatwin) he is in War of the Worlds(Robbie)

29383- is'nt he cute!!!!:love:

i know he's Canadian, but couldnt JK stretch the all Brits cast a wee bit!!!

I just stumbled accross this actress' picture on imdb.com and thought she'd be good for the part of Tonks... Tell me what you think! I've never seen her act though, but she's British

Oh, her name's Sarah-Jane Potts... does anyone know her?

I just stumbled accross this actress' picture on imdb.com and thought she'd be good for the part of Tonks... Tell me what you think! I've never seen her act though, but she's British

Oh, her name's Sarah-Jane Potts... does anyone know her?

She looks a bit to scary to play Tonks (although maybe thats just the picture), I'd say she'd make a better Bellatrix.

I agree with unconvinced. Also, Tilda Swinton would be a little too skinny for Narcissa. But that's just my opinion...


Zoe....

Cate Blanchett could play Narcissa, with Elijah Wood playing James Potter, making them both official fantasy film sluts :lol:

Charles Dance for Scrimgeour. Support:

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Also, Tilda Swinton would be a little too skinny for Narcissa
True, but is'nt Cissi supposed to look a bit under the weather, cause her hubby is in jail, and beloved son at the whim of a madman?!

I just stumbled accross this actress' picture on imdb.com and thought she'd be good for the part of Tonks... Tell me what you think! I've never seen her act though, but she's British

Oh, her name's Sarah-Jane Potts... does anyone know her?
I could see her as Tonks, ya it works.

Ok, this might sound odd, in away, but... wouldn't Famke Janssen make a pretty good Bellatrix? I know she's not British, and is bit young for the part, but it's just an opinion.
See pic:
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there is a woman named ann-marie duff, i know her from a masterpiece theatre thing about Elizabeth I. in parts she has this kind of maniachal (sp?) laugh and i could really see her as one of the lestrange sisters (bella or cissy). does anyone else know any of her work, and do you think i'm crazy or do you also think she could fit as one of those gals?

Talking about who would be a good James, i dont know about you but this his how i imagine him!

29382:drool: (Justin Chatwin) he is in War of the Worlds(Robbie)

29383- is'nt he cute!!!!:love:

i know he's Canadian, but couldnt JK stretch the all Brits cast a wee bit!!!
Wow, he's CUTE! I could definitely see him playing the part of young James Potter, though I don't know who he is.

i have a question (hmm it seems like i have a lot of those), does an actor or actress from a non-british country count if they are married to a british person and live in britain? (sort of like gwenyth paltrow and chris martin ... but probably with someone who has been married longer and living in britain longer, they were just the first couple i could think of)

Tis a good question sharks.

I would assume that it would be ok. But then again, who knows?

i have a question (hmm it seems like i have a lot of those), does an actor or actress from a non-british country count if they are married to a british person and live in britain? (sort of like gwenyth paltrow and chris martin ... but probably with someone who has been married longer and living in britain longer, they were just the first couple i could think of)

I wouldn't think so...that would mean that parts would be open for anyone who happened to be married to a Brit or live there, like Michel Douglas or, ye Gods, Madonna.

I wouldn´t object to Gwyneth though. She was pretty good as british in "Sliding Doors". Besides, shes ok, ugly though...:love:

29425- Ann-Marie Duff
this is the only pic i could find, she is the girl of course!
She plays the main girl part in a comedy series called Shameless on Channel 4 in the UK!
Good pick!I think she would make a good Cissi, cause of her blonde hair!

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I can't believe no one has suggested David Warner for Rufus Scrimgeour! I had been thinking he'd have made a great Dumbledore, but when I read the description of Scrimgeour in Book 6, David Warner immediately came to mind, and I imagined him in the part throughout the rest of the book. He seems so perfect, I had the impression JKR was thinking of him when she created the character.

As for Christopher Lee, I think he'd make a great Phineas Nigellus too. Definitely not Slughorn--isn't he described as being short and round? Christopher Lee is 6'5"!

On the other hand, I don't know how tall he is, but I think Bob Hoskins would be perfect. (Jim Broadbent is great, but isn't he kind of tall and lanky too?)

I love the idea of Cate Blanchett as Narcissa too--too bad she's not British!

Terry Jones as Umbridge???? I doubt it, but the thought of it gave me a great laugh!

Somebody talked about the Marauders' sons playing them in the flashbacks ... Timothy Spall's son Rafe would be perfect since he's an actor too!

I agree with having Ralph Fiennes play Voldemort at the job interview. Of course, that film's a few years off, and Ralph's not getting any younger! But I hate the idea of him not being in the sixth film!

Finally, I'd love to see Michael Sheen play a role, but I'm not sure which one. (Lots of possibilities, though. He's a very versatile actor.) Any thoughts?

are lupin and sirius and molly and arthur signed on for OotP? i hope they are.
I never knew gary oldman was british, i thought he was american, oops!

i really like jim broadbent. i also like billy boyd (Pipin from LotR, i think he's british?). I wish i knew more british actors and actresses. in my apartment i dont get cable so i get no movie channels or BBC. the only way i get british stuff is from the movie rental place or if i watch Masterpiece Theatre. Which actually i just watched a MT and now really like Ann-Marie Duff.

i'm afraid i'm not too helpfull huh?

Wow, he's CUTE! I could definitely see him playing the part of young James Potter, though I don't know who he is.

Do you think so ? He is at the oposite of how i pictured James Potter (too fat, isn't he ?) . Well it's my opinion; but the only common point between both of them is the hair color wich is not that important ...

These are the actors I really want to see play these roles - I'm not too fussed about any of the other characters.

Bellatrix Lestrange - Helen McCrory. If that rumour turns out to be correct, I'll be very happy - I'd never heard of her until Messiah IV, but she was fantastic in that.

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Dolores Umbridge - Annette Badland. Played Margaret the Slitheen in Doctor Who. She's just perfect at that fale-sweetness hiding an evil core.

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Horace Slughorn - Bob Hoskins

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I dont think Molly will come back. It killed me that she wasnt in GoF.

While Emma Watson has made the part of Hermione her own it's a pity that Rebecca Ryan didn't get a shot.

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i have found the ultimate teenage Tom Marvolo Riddle.

http://www.geocities.com/meethzoonks/76.jpg

introducing, 20-year-old Londoner, Tom Sturridge.

i saw him on Being Julia and the minute he came on screen, i was practically on my toes shouting 'Tom Riddle! Tom Riddle!'. and they even share names. i say it's a match made in Tommy Heaven.

http://www.geocities.com/meethzoonks/57.jpg

see those eyes, glancing sideways? it's Tom Riddle's Glare o' Death (TM), i tell you, he has it in his veins!

I thought the exact same thing! The guy who played Tom was pretty good, though.

Maybe Tom Sturridge could play James, because he looks sort of sweet/and wicked!

Wow, meethz, he does look like he would be a great Tom. He's very handsome as Tom should be. He might work as James, though they probably will just get an unknown to act him or something.

Tom Sturridge play James? hmm. could be. but I'm still rooting Tom for Tom! xD and *oh*, I have a bad, bad feeling those damn movie people might cut off Snape's flashback scene. if you think about it, that scene could easily be replaced with something else.

I dont think Molly will come back. It killed me that she wasnt in GoF.
She's coming back, It's confirmed on Veritaserum and Mugglenet I think. Also, Percy is signed. So there will be the Weasleys. How could you do OOP without the ever-present Weasley family?

But it's Imelda Staunton for Umbridge.

I like Chris Coulson, the original Riddle for the continuing young Riddle. Then they'll need a middle aged Riddle/Original Voldie, but I guess Fiennes can do that.

will Bill Weasley be present?

Hey got a great one for a woman who could play Lily, even though she might be a bit old!

29526 her name is Kelly Reilly and she played one of the Bingley sisters in the new Pride and Prejudice film.


29527 again,

29528 there she is with our own Barty Crouch jr(David Tennant)

she doesnt look old at all!!! i hated the way they portrayed james and lily in PS, they looked like they were really uppity and strict.

i hated the way they portrayed james and lily in PS, they looked like they were really uppity and strict.

You got that from how they stood behind Harry and looked lovingly at him through the mirror?! :lol:

I thought they looked perfect. Strait-laced, yes, but we know that Lily was. They didn't look too formal, but they looked incredibly warm. They couldn't exactly be portrayed as fun, jokey people in such an emotional scene.

She's coming back, It's confirmed on Veritaserum and Mugglenet I think. Also, Percy is signed. So there will be the Weasleys. How could you do OOP without the every present Weasley family?

But it's Imelda Staunton for Umbridge.

I like Chris Coulson, the original Riddle for the continuing young Riddle. Then they'll need a middle aged Riddle/Original Voldie, but I guess Fiennes can do that.

I'm thrilled that Mrs.Weasley will be back, she was fantastic. :tu: And am also really glad about Percy coming back too, he was great.

I hope they do get Chris to come back to play a younger Voldemort, I did like him.

You got that from how they stood behind Harry and looked lovingly at him through the mirror?!

I thought they looked perfect. Strait-laced, yes, but we know that Lily was. They didn't look too formal, but they looked incredibly warm. They couldn't exactly be portrayed as fun, jokey people in such an emotional scene.

I didn't think that James and Lily looked too strict or anything before, I thought they did a good job. They looked very loving in the Mirror scene and the pictures of them were super. I did think they looked a little old, particularly James, but that was no biggie.

I think I've found Tonks! See my sig. Lisa Coleman. Absolutely Perfect!

I see just "fortune city anti-steal images"

I think I've found Tonks! See my sig. Lisa Coleman. Absolutely Perfect!

Are you hot-linking that picture? It's not a nice thing to do, and that ^^ tends to happen.

Are you hot-linking that picture? It's not a nice thing to do, and that ^^ tends to happen.

I don't know what hot-linking is, OR why it's not a nice thing to do. In order to illustrate my point about this actress being ideal (IMO) for the part of Tonks, I copied a picture from her website. That's all. Kingwidget helped me, so I really don't think I've crossed an etiquette line here. Can anyone actually see it?

29425- Ann-Marie Duff
this is the only pic i could find, she is the girl of course!
She plays the main girl part in a comedy series called Shameless on Channel 4 in the UK!
Good pick!I think she would make a good Cissi, cause of her blonde hair!
She's unfortunately too young to play Narcissa. I know she's beautiful in that kind of cold way, and I love the series Shameless myself, currently it's re-peating in Oz and I'm up every Monday night not to miss it, but Fiona is just too young to be Draco's mother.

I'm still for either Joely Richardson or Hermione Norris for the role as Narcissa.

I don't know what hot-linking is, OR why it's not a nice thing to do. In order to illustrate my point about this actress being ideal (IMO) for the part of Tonks, I copied a picture from her website. That's all. Kingwidget helped me, so I really don't think I've crossed an etiquette line here. Can anyone actually see it?

Perhaps they have anti-copying on their pictures :( What a pity. Try pressing "print screen" when you're on that website, then paste in paint or some other program like this, then cut the screenshot down to the picture of the lady. I'll try and look her up on imdb, because I'm curious now :lol:

It is said that they have finaaly had the first read. Does it means that everyone is cast ? What about Luna ? Please if anyone know, let's share the news !

I don't know what hot-linking is, OR why it's not a nice thing to do. In order to illustrate my point about this actress being ideal (IMO) for the part of Tonks, I copied a picture from her website. That's all. Kingwidget helped me, so I really don't think I've crossed an etiquette line here. Can anyone actually see it?
I can't see it, if you wanted to know.

I can see it! Oh, I'll find the web page address. You'll be impressed, honest!

Is Kingsley Shakelbolt gonna be in the movie?

Who should play his part?

I think I've found Tonks! See my sig. Lisa Coleman. Absolutely Perfect!

What??? She's 38 years old! How could she play Tonks? :? And I definately picture Tonks a little prettier than that, sorry... :blush:
Anyway, isn't Tonks already casted? Isn't Laura fraser going to play her?
Was that only a rumour? :( Please, tell me that wasn't just a rumour! :(

Is Kingsley Shakelbolt gonna be in the movie?

Who should play his part?

My vote goes for Colin salmon. ;)

What??? She's 38 years old! How could she play Tonks?

Shirley Henderson (Myrtle) is 39.

About Lily & James. I thought it was interesting in Movie 1 that Lily had long reddish hair & was in a black turtleneck, then when Harry got to platform 9-10, the conductor was talking to a woman with long curly reddish hair in a black turtleneck holding a girl in her arms. I always wondered if this was 2 time lines crossing.

About Lily & James. I thought it was interesting in Movie 1 that Lily had long reddish hair & was in a black turtleneck, then when Harry got to platform 9-10, the conductor was talking to a woman with long curly reddish hair in a black turtleneck holding a girl in her arms. I always wondered if this was 2 time lines crossing.

That was Chris Columbus' wife!

That was Chris Columbus' wife!
I heard about that! She has two parts in the movie, you think they would change her clothes.:)

What??? She's 38 years old! How could she play Tonks? :? And I definately picture Tonks a little prettier than that, sorry...

As was pointed out above, the actress playing the ghostly SCHOOLGIRL is 39. Lisa Coleman may be 38, but she certainly doesn't look it. And I don't think that Tonks should be some pretty-pretty cutesy girlie type anyway. She's socially flawed in several ways (good). For example, she goes about in public with, "bubble gum pink hair". In Britain, this is a sign of someone with serious self-esteem issues, as they are not only 28 years out of date fashion-wise, but are trying to draw attention to themselves with an extremely cheap and simple gimmick. Tonks is an Auror. She didn't become one straight from school. With any Senior Defence Organisation, you have to undergo years of rigorous training. I think 38-looking-30 is about right. Also, she has to battle for the attention of a scruffy, poor, part-time werewolf. Does that say above-average attractive to you?


Anyway, isn't Tonks already casted?

Cast.

That was Chris Columbus' wife!
:O Really? That's cool, I didn't know that!

I heard about that! She has two parts in the movie, you think they would change her clothes.:)

I didn't know that. What was her other part?

I kind of miss his daughter, I thought she did very well in her part in the first two movies. She made a great Susan Bones.

As was pointed out above, the actress playing the ghostly SCHOOLGIRL is 39. Lisa Coleman may be 38, but she certainly doesn't look it.

Sorry, but I totally disagree...

And I don't think that Tonks should be some pretty-pretty cutesy girlie type anyway.I never said that, did I? I don't think that either, but she's supposed to be "Ok-looking", remeber? ;)

She's socially flawed in several ways (good). For example, she goes about in public with, "bubble gum pink hair".

So what? She's a metamorphmagus, she's always changing. She can change. If I were a metamorphmagus, I would try every kind of hairstyles, that's almost every women's dream!


In Britain, this is a sign of someone with serious self-esteem issues
I don't think Tonks has self-esteem issues at all. Her only problem is to be clumsy, but apart from that I thing she's even very secure of herself.


Tonks is an Auror. She didn't become one straight from school.
No. As McGonnagal once said, it takes two years of training after Hogwarts for one to become an Auror. So, if Tonks got ou of Hogwarts... say... when she was 18, she spent 2 years training to become an Auror. That makes 20 years old. In book 5, she tells Harry that she has been an Auror for a year... So, in book 5 she was 21 years old!

Also, she has to battle for the attention of a scruffy, poor, part-time werewolf. Does that say above-average attractive to you?
If I knew a guy like Lupin, believe me, I wouldn't care if he was ugly, poor, a werewolf or anything. I would definately fall in love with him. He's fantastic, he's a great person, loving, caring, calm, bright, with a delicious sense of humour, with a huge heart, he's brave and is always worried about people feeling good... What would a woman want more from a man?


Cast.

Thanks for correcting me. As you should have seen in my location, I'm not an English-speaker and it's always pleasent when people help other people. Thanks... You'll probably find lots of mistakes in this post too.

But I'll repeat my question: Isn't Tonks already cast?

Mary Lupin, the casting of Tonks has most likely already been determined however the people in charge haven't disclosed who it's going to be yet. The Laura Fraser thing was just a rumour, but unlike the Elizabeth Hurley one, it was never disproved, so it's still up in the air. Well, at least, I'm pretty sure that it hasn't been shot down by WB representatives.

Kelly Reilly as a younger Lily might be good, but I'd really like to see some young, genuine unknowns get the role, you need to know that the marauders and lily and Snape in the pensieve were all young 14-15 year old kids. I have a feeling that the only reason I'd like to see Kelly Reilly in the films is because she's a pretty looking, young, redhead and I'm not too familiar with any other actors in the Brit film industry with those features.

The actress playing Tonks was said to be "an unknown", as far as I remember. So I don't think Laura Fraser got the part, she is not really an unknown actress...

2 casting updates! (at last)

-Kingsley Shacklebolt: George Harris
-Young James Potter :Robbie Jarvis

link here (http://www.cosforums.com/link here)

Any pics of Robbie Jarvis surface yet?

Any pics of Robbie Jarvis surface yet?

There is one on the George Harris thread.

Where is my posting? I had something to say here, about the wisdom of casting ordinary-looking people, but it's gone!

Not soviet censorship, surely?

Well this must mean that Snape's worst memory is going to be in the film but what I want to know is whether anyone has been cast for young Severus. I can not think of someone who would play young Severus and match Alan Rickman's performance though I guess the actor does not need to act exactly like him in that memory as he is going to be only 15.

Does any one know whether the young Severus has been cast for and if not who do you think will suit the part?

CBBC Newsround today reports that Warner Bros. has cast the roles of Kingsley Shacklebolt and young James Potter for the Order of the Phoenix movie. George Harris (The Interpreter, Raiders of the Lost Ark) will play the Ministry Auror and teenager Robbie Jarvis will play the young James Potter whom Harry sees in "Snape's Worst Memory."

From Mugglenet. i dont like it personally i think there are better actors out ther for Kingsley

Does any one know whether the young Severus has been cast for and if not who do you think will suit the part?

Good point, we haven't heard anything about it :huh: In my opinion it's far more important to cast a young Severus exactly right than a young James. Perhaps they are still looking?

I heard about that! She has two parts in the movie, you think they would change her clothes.:)
What? CC's wife played Lily and that woman at the train station? It was the same person?

I really want Chris back for Movie 6.

Good point, we haven't heard anything about it :huh: In my opinion it's far more important to cast a young Severus exactly right than a young James. Perhaps they are still looking?
Well maybe not a star, so no big info. But Severus is sort of extreme physically, the side parted hair, the greasyness, the black jesuit robes. I'm thinking that whoever could be stylized to have a resemblance.

I kind of miss his daughter, I thought she did very well in her part in the first two movies. She made a great Susan Bones.
She was in a lot of shots as fellow student -- like Hannah Abbott. I really home she comes back too.

I really want Chris back for Movie 6.


Well maybe not a star, so no big info. But Severus is sort of extreme physically, the side parted hair, the greasyness, the black jesuit robes. I'm thinking that whoever could be stylized to have a resemblance.Well there is someone who springs to mind and he was Sky High (not a great film but the boy in the picture below could be made to look like a Young Severus with a bit of make up and black byed hair). Good point, we haven't heard anything about it In my opinion it's far more important to cast a young Severus exactly right than a young James. Perhaps they are still looking? True and they might have to look for more than one young Snape if they include the Snape that was hiding when that man was shouting at what might have been E. Prince.

I don't like who they chose for Kingsley. I always thought that they would chose someone younger and a bit better looking. And about who they picked for young James... I really don't mind, the guy could pull it off with a bit of touch from the makeup department. I really want them to hurry up and give us the entire list of the cast... Argh! I hate this, the suspense is killing me!!!

George Harris II for Kingsley Shaklebolt. He looks OK, he's from the West Indies. Got a long filmography including Black Hawk Down. Probably inexpensive.

Who is Robbie Jarvis? (cast as James Potter).

What? CC's wife played Lily and that woman at the train station? It was the same person?



Geraldine Somerville (Jane "Panhandle" Penhaligon in "Cracker") was Lily Potter throughout. Is she the wife of Christopher Columbus? I didn't know that.

It has always been of interest to me that a RADA trained actress was chosen to stand in a mirror/photograph and wave. It seemed excessive. The presence of G. Somerville has convinced me that Lily may have an actual 'living' presence* in Book 7, (I thought it was going to be 5, then 6.....), or what's the point in such a fine actress silently playing her?

*Yes, I know Lily's dead, but some sort of resurrection is called for, surely?

I really want Chris back for Movie 6.

Columbus will never be allowed near Harry Potter again. He is blamed for taking a franchise that should have had Spiderman numbers and reducing it to mere blockbuster numbers.

Evidently, they have cast Magorian (http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4670000/newsid_4671400/4671410.stm). If he is who I think he is, then he is a fine actor. However, this decision is very stupid: there is no need for the centaurs in the OotP movie. I am worried that we are seeing shades of Columbus again: i.e, random Potterverse details with no sense of story or plot.

Don't they need the centaurs to get rid of Umbridge?

Oh, so Magorian (and other centaurs and certainly Firenze too) joins Grawp, Lockhart, Quidditch team and Marauders in OotP movie! :D

Looks like we can expect OotP being an epic story instead of a play containing MoM scene and brief verbal (by Hermione of course) introduction. [/sarcasm]

The guy looks perfect for the role, imo. He's so... elvish. Compared to that troll horse-thing dummy from PS, he looks BRILLIANT.

As for Kingsley, I already like Harris. He's black and bald and, as I heard, a good actor and that's all I need to see in the movie.

If the picture of Robbie Jarvis is really Robbie, then my old issues with how tall actors are, are surfacing again. But he looks his part, so it's OK, I guess.

Don't they need the centaurs to get rid of Umbridge?

No. A good adaptation would get rid of Umbridge in any one of a number of ways.


Oh, so Magorian (and other centaurs and certainly Firenze too) joins Grawp, Lockhart, Quidditch team and Marauders in OotP movie!

There has been no word that Branagh will return, and I really doubt that he would do a cameo like this. I have not heard anywhere that the Quidditch team is being cast: the young lady who played Angelina Johnson in GoF had not been asked to return as of November.

But, yeah, it is looking bad: it might be back to a costumed reading of the book rather than a real movie. I thought that they had learned their lesson after the first two movies that audiences won't tolerate pointless Potterverse trivia.......

But, yeah, it is looking bad: it might be back to a costumed reading of the book rather than a real movie. I thought that they had learned their lesson after the first two movies that audiences won't tolerate pointless Potterverse trivia.......

But then, if they're only going off the money generated by them, those two have earned the most :(

But, yeah, it is looking bad: it might be back to a costumed reading of the book rather than a real movie. I thought that they had learned their lesson after the first two movies that audiences won't tolerate pointless Potterverse trivia.......

Would WB let them, though? Kong has just bombed due to excess length, and we know from the changes they made post-COS that they're aware of their failings. I can't really believe they'd willingly go back in that direction, or that the new direction and screenwriter would be that tremendously stupid.

I'm just going to assume they have their reasons... (on the plus side, no news of a Mundungus or Mrs. Figg casting, Tonks and Kingsley are minor characters, Quidditch is out and according to HPFU.co.uk, Luna isn't really all that big a role).

Maybe they want to put in some extra action seqeunces or fancy SFX?

*scratches chin*

But then, if they're only going off the money generated by them, those two have earned the most :( That's because those were the first (and I thought GOF had already surpassed CoS?). And PoA and GOF might have done much better too if PS and CoS weren't so bad. I know a lot of people who decided not to go watch any more Harry Potter movies after they saw the first one, it was pretty bad. I also watched the first movie long before I read the books, just to see what the fuss was all about, and I certainly wasn't impressed. I eventually read the books (and did get what the fuss was about lol) but my opinion of the first (and second movie) still stands.


As for the centaurs, I'll wait and see. There's many ways to make the same thing work. I sure wouldn't mind if they weren't in, but who knows, it might be done decently and I'll like it.

Would WB let them, though? Kong has just bombed due to excess length, and we know from the changes they made post-COS that they're aware of their failings.

This is all true. (Well, Kong did not exactly bomb - it cleared over $200M in the States and will probably make ~$220M - but it was expected to make $300M, which means that New LIne has to explain to the shareholders where that $80M they were promised went.)


I'm just going to assume they have their reasons... (on the plus side, no news of a Mundungus or Mrs. Figg casting, Tonks and Kingsley are minor characters, Quidditch is out and according to HPFU.co.uk, Luna isn't really all that big a role).

Maybe they want to put in some extra action seqeunces or fancy SFX?

The other thing to keep in mind is that they will not necessarily use all of the scenes that they film. Still, the centaurs are a big investment: that is a lot of CGI, and it won't be left on the cutting room floor.

It can still work with the centaurs. Who knows, perhaps they will adapt them to have a bigger role: e.g., become more active in the prophecy, etc. Perhaps they will have it be one of the centaurs who made the original prophecy: that would be visually more interesting than Trelawney!

I think that perhaps I have the OotP: Book to Film screenplay too thoroughly stuck in my mind!

Actually, the first two movies did not sell more tickets than last two.

Actually, the first two movies did not sell more tickets than last two.

Have a look here (http://www.imdb.com/boxoffice/alltimegross?region=world-wide).

Anyway, my point was that unfortunately, if the film makers are only interested in profits, then they may not be willing to avoid the traps that Columbus ran into - therefore casting parts that may not even be needed, like the centaurs. Although I would quite like to see a centaur-traumatised Umbridge :evil:

Any word on young Snape yet?

You have a look here (http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/world/)
For IMDB was never known for accuracy.
And anyway SofiaR replied brilliantly.

You have a look here

My browser won't load it for some reason :( But there are a lot of different statistics out there - I think I followed a link from Mugglenet a few weeks back that I got my original statement from. Oh well.

And PoA and GOF might have done much better too if PS and CoS weren't so bad

Oh, completely. Some of my non-HP reading friends refused to go and see the other films. I'm very much debating whether or not to see OOTP myself, especially since two of the choices I saw for their choice of Luna - whom, while I don't like her, should at least look the part - look completely different to anything I have ever imagined. Also I was looking forward to seeing Kenneth Branagh again :lol: I know his part in OOTP is not really required for the film, but it would've been nice to have seen him. I wonder if they'll cut the entire hospital sequence? Surely we would have heard about castings for the Longbottoms by now if not?

This is all true. (Well, Kong did not exactly bomb - it cleared over $200M in the States and will probably make ~$220M - but it was expected to make $300M, which means that New LIne has to explain to the shareholders where that $80M they were promised went.)


Well, compared to what was expected ("Titanic with Gorillas!" was Empire magazines line), it failed badly. For what it cost to make, as well.



It can still work with the centaurs. Who knows, perhaps they will adapt them to have a bigger role: e.g., become more active in the prophecy, etc. Perhaps they will have it be one of the centaurs who made the original prophecy: that would be visually more interesting than Trelawney!


I suppose they'd want some dragon/fantasy animal equivalent.

There has been no word that Branagh will return, and I really doubt that he would do a cameo like this. I have not heard anywhere that the Quidditch team is being cast: the young lady who played Angelina Johnson in GoF had not been asked to return as of November.But they want Branagh to return, as Lockart is to appear in the movie, and Tiana Benjamin said she will be in OotP.

I'm very much debating whether or not to see OOTP myself, especially since two of the choices I saw for their choice of Luna - whom, while I don't like her, should at least look the part - look completely different to anything I have ever imagined.Same with me, but those girls are only two of 400 chosen girls and as I heard, all kinds of girls were chosen then - blackhaired, black, whatever.

I suspect that they may chose prophecies as a main theme in the movie. The prophecy/weapon is a reason of everything what happened both in book five and in the whole series. Thus Trelawney (I hope she'll reprise her role), Firenze (most probably), Harry's dreams, Neville's backstory, Grawp as an example of prophecy failed because of brotherly love ("Tell Hagrid it isn't working" - and it works at the end of HBP). I like it that they may not be heading towards putting every page in the movie, but concentrating on the main plot using so many smaller plots in logical way.

For Tonks, I am leaning towards Rachel Weisz. I can picture her with bubble gum pink hair. And her she's young and her face seems similar to how I pictured Tonks.

For Tonks, I am leaning towards Rachel Weisz. I can picture her with bubble gum pink hair. And her she's young and her face seems similar to how I pictured Tonks.
i immediately pictured her in the mummy and in the constant gardner and thought you were nuts. But then i remembered her in About a Boy where she is wearing more contemporary clothing and I think you are on to something. I could see Rachel with pink hair and Tonks' type of clothes. But I wonder if now that she is getting critical recognition she wouldn't want to do it (though i must say if people like maggie smith, gambon, and branagh can "stoop" to doing a harry potter film, why not rachel?).

Rachel Weisz will definitely not be cast in the role of Tonks because she's pregnant! Due in June I think, so she'll probably be taking some time off to take care of the newborn. :D

And I don't know about the screenplay, I suppose we don't really know enough about the film to judge it on its casting choices alone. We should really wait for confirmations instead. Not to mention that while they might shoot the scenes, it doesn't necessarily mean it will survive the editing room.

Lockheart is going to be in the movie? Was that confirmed?

And Firenze will be in it?! Ugh....we really don't need the Trelawny/Firenze stuff.

Rachel Weisz will definitely not be cast in the role of Tonks because she's pregnant! Due in June I think, so she'll probably be taking some time off to take care of the newborn. :D
oh duh. thanks galligaskins, i totally forgot about that! :D

Actually, the first two movies did not sell more tickets than last two.

I do not have ticket sales estimates from around the world, but in North America, the approximate numbers look like this:

PSS: 55.1M
CoS: 45.1M
GoF: 45.1M
PoA: 40.2M

Of course, PoA had the disadvantage of being a June movie: thus, it did not get the huge Thanksgiving boost in its 2nd or 3rd weekend, and then it did not get the big Christmas boosts. Also, it was run out of the theater more quickly because movie turnover rates are much quicker in the summer.

(This is all documented on the GoF box office thread, by the way.)


But they want Branagh to return, as Lockart is to appear in the movie, and Tiana Benjamin said she will be in OotP.

When Benjamin she say that? At the GoF premiere, she said that she'd be willing to return, but that she had not been signed to do so yet.

As for their wanting Branagh to return, the number of things that people want Branagh to do is far greater than the number of things that he does. He's in demand on the worst of occasions.


I suspect that they may chose prophecies as a main theme in the movie. The prophecy/weapon is a reason of everything what happened both in book five and in the whole series.

That would be unfortunate, as the story is not about prophecies. It is about isolation, and how choosing to isolate oneself from others, although sometimes easy to do, can lead to disastrous consequences.


Lockheart is going to be in the movie? Was that confirmed?

Lockhart was in the first draft, according to the movies producer. There has been no confirmation that Branagh is returning. We probably would have heard from him (or his publicists) if he were.

And Firenze will be in it?! Ugh....we really don't need the Trelawny/Firenze stuff.

There is no indication that Emma Thompson is returning, either. Given the caliber of both of their names, we probably would have heard by now.


I'm very much debating whether or not to see OOTP myself, especially since two of the choices I saw for their choice of Luna - whom, while I don't like her, should at least look the part - look completely different to anything I have ever imagined.

Er, so? Surely that is not a criterion for seeing a movie!


Also I was looking forward to seeing Kenneth Branagh again :lol: I know his part in OOTP is not really required for the film, but it would've been nice to have seen him. I wonder if they'll cut the entire hospital sequence? Surely we would have heard about castings for the Longbottoms by now if not?

No, we would not have. Those would be such small roles that we probably won't learn who plays them until late.

However, if they have Lockhart in the initial draft, then they must have the hospital sequence.


As for Branagh, I'm sure that he has some other big project in which you can see him! Of course, he's meticulous and very choosy, so, it might be a little bit of a wait.

Columbus will never be allowed near Harry Potter again. He is blamed for taking a franchise that should have had Spiderman numbers and reducing it to mere blockbuster numbers..
Where are you getting your numbers? SS & COS made billions. More than Spiderman. POA almost sunk the ship. Columbus knew what he was doing.

Also, they don't time value the money. $1B 5 years ago is more than $1B today.
1. Titanic (1997) $1,835,300,000
2. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) $1,129,219,252
3. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (2001) $968,600,000
4. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999) $922,379,000
5. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) $921,600,000
6. Jurassic Park (1993) $919,700,000
7. Shrek 2 (2004) $880,871,036
8. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002) $866,300,000
9. Finding Nemo (2003) $865,000,000
10. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) $860,700,000
11. Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2005) $848,462,555
12. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (2005) $821,301,035
13. Independence Day (1996) $811,200,000
14. Spider-Man (2002) $806,700,000
15. Star Wars (1977) $797,900,000
16. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004) $789,458,727
17. Spider-Man 2 (2004) $783,577,893
18. The Lion King (1994) $783,400,000
19. E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982) $756,700,000
20. The Matrix Reloaded (2003) $735,600,000
21. Forrest Gump (1994) $679,400,000
22. The Sixth Sense (1999) $661,500,000
23. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003) $653,200,000
24. Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones (2002) $648,200,000
25. The Incredibles (2004) $624,037,578
26. The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997) $614,300,000
27. The Passion of the Christ (2004) $604,370,943
28. War of the Worlds (2005) $591,377,056
29. Men in Black (1997) $587,200,000
30. Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983) $572,700,000
31. Armageddon (1998) $554,600,000
32. Mission: Impossible II (2000) $545,300,000
33. Home Alone (1990) $533,800,000
34. Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) $533,800,000
35. Monsters, Inc. (2001) $528,900,000
36. The Day After Tomorrow (2004) $527,939,919
37. Ghost (1990) $517,600,000
38. Terminator 2: Judgment Day (1991) $516,800,000
39. The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (2005) $504,669,000
40. Aladdin (1992) $501,900,000
41. Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989) $494,800,000
42. Twister (1996) $494,700,000
43. Toy Story 2 (1999) $485,700,000
44. Troy (2004) $481,228,348
45. Saving Private Ryan (1998) $479,300,000
46. Charlie and the Chocolate Factory (2005) $471,856,431
47. Jaws (1975) $470,600,000
48. Pretty Woman (1990) $463,400,000
49. Bruce Almighty (2003) $458,900,000
50. The Matrix (1999) $456,300,000
51. Gladiator (2000) $456,200,000
52. Shrek (2001) $455,100,000
53. Mission: Impossible (1996) $452,500,000
54. King Kong (2005) $451,160,170
55. Pearl Harbor (2001) $450,400,000
56. Ocean's Eleven (2001) $444,200,000
57. The Last Samurai (2003) $435,400,000
58. Tarzan (1999) $435,200,000
59. Meet the Fockers (2004) $432,667,575
60. Mr. & Mrs. Smith (2005) $427,936,103
61. Men in Black II (2002) $425,600,000
62. Die Another Day (2002) $424,700,000
63. Dances with Wolves (1990) $424,200,000
64. The Matrix Revolutions (2003) $424,000,000
65. Cast Away (2000) $424,000,000
66. Mrs. Doubtfire (1993) $423,200,000
67. The Mummy Returns (2001) $418,700,000
68. Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (2003) $418,200,000
69. The Mummy (1999) $413,300,000
70. Batman (1989) $413,200,000
71. Rain Man (1988) $412,800,000
72. The Bodyguard (1992) $410,900,000
73. Signs (2002) $407,900,000
74. Madagascar (2005) $406,800,000
75. X2 (2003) $406,400,000
76. Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves (1991) $390,500,000
77. Gone with the Wind (1939) $390,500,000
78. Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) $383,900,000
79. Grease (1978) $379,800,000
80. Ice Age (2002) $378,300,000
81. Beauty and the Beast (1991) $378,300,000
82. Godzilla (1998) $375,800,000
83. What Women Want (2000) $370,800,000
84. The Fugitive (1993) $368,700,000
85. Hitch (2005) $367,600,000
86. True Lies (1994) $365,200,000
87. Die Hard: With a Vengeance (1995) $365,000,000
88. Notting Hill (1999) $363,000,000
89. Jurassic Park III (2001) $362,900,000
90. There's Something About Mary (1998) $360,000,000
91. Planet of the Apes (2001) $358,900,000
92. The Flintstones (1994) $358,500,000
93. Toy Story (1995) $358,100,000
94. Minority Report (2002) $358,000,000
95. A Bug's Life (1998) $357,900,000
96. The Exorcist (1973) $357,500,000
97. My Big Fat Greek Wedding (2002) $356,500,000
98. Basic Instinct (1992) $352,700,000
99. Batman Begins (2005) $352,000,000
100. The World Is Not Enough (1999) $352,000,000
101. GoldenEye (1995) $351,500,000
102. Ocean's Twelve (2004) $351,331,634
103. Back to the Future (1985) $350,600,000
104. Se7en (1995) $350,100,000
105. Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988) $349,200,000
106. Hannibal (2001) $349,200,000
107. Deep Impact (1998) $348,600,000
108. Dinosaur (2000) $347,800,000
109. Pocahontas (1995) $347,100,000
110. Tomorrow Never Dies (1997) $346,600,000
111. Top Gun (1986) $344,800,000
112. I, Robot (2004) $342,795,350
113. How the Grinch Stole Christmas (2000) $340,400,000
114. National Treasure (2004) $337,605,002
115. Catch Me If You Can (2002) $337,400,000
116. American Beauty (1999) $336,000,000
117. Batman Forever (1995) $335,000,000
118. Apollo 13 (1995) $334,100,000
119. Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984) $333,000,000
120. Back to the Future Part II (1989) $332,000,000
121. The Rock (1996) $330,500,000
122. Fantastic Four (2005) $329,295,569
123. Rush Hour 2 (2001) $329,100,000
124. Crocodile Dundee (1986) $328,000,000
125. The Perfect Storm (2000) $327,000,000
126. The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1996) $325,500,000
127. Schindler's List (1993) $321,200,000
128. The Mask (1994) $320,900,000
129. Fatal Attraction (1987) $320,100,000
130. Lethal Weapon 3 (1992) $319,700,000
131. Beverly Hills Cop (1984) $316,400,000
132. Air Force One (1997) $315,000,000
133. As Good as It Gets (1997) $313,300,000
134. A Beautiful Mind (2001) $312,100,000
135. Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me (1999) $309,600,000
136. Ransom (1996) $308,700,000
137. Runaway Bride (1999) $307,900,000
138. Chicago (2002) $306,400,000
139. Liar Liar (1997) $306,300,000
140. Shark Tale (2004) $306,162,022
141. 101 Dalmatians (1996) $304,200,000
142. Mulan (1998) $303,500,000
143. Hook (1991) $300,800,000
144. Rambo: First Blood Part II (1985) $300,400,000
145. Rocky IV (1985) $300,400,000
146. Beverly Hills Cop II (1987) $300,000,000
147. Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977) $300,000,000
148. Stuart Little (1999) $297,600,000
149. Look Who's Talking (1989) $297,100,000
150. Meet the Parents (2000) $295,500,000
151. X-Men (2000) $294,100,000
152. Ghost Busters (1984) $291,600,000
153. Doctor Dolittle (1998) $290,100,000
154. Superman (1978) $289,400,000
155. Shakespeare in Love (1998) $289,100,000
156. Austin Powers in Goldmember (2002) $289,000,000
157. Coming to America (1988) $288,800,000
158. My Best Friend's Wedding (1997) $286,900,000
159. Saturday Night Fever (1977) $285,400,000
160. Lethal Weapon 4 (1998) $284,700,000
161. Speed (1994) $283,200,000
162. Batman Returns (1992) $282,800,000
163. Wedding Crashers (2005) $282,718,368
164. Casper (1995) $282,300,000
165. Home Alone 2: Lost in New York (1992) $279,600,000
166. American Pie 2 (2001) $276,400,000
167. What Lies Beneath (2000) $275,500,000
168. Van Helsing (2004) $275,025,245
169. The Polar Express (2004) $274,871,234
170. Jerry Maguire (1996) $273,600,000
171. The Silence of the Lambs (1991) $272,700,000
172. The Bourne Supremacy (2004) $272,549,130
173. The Nutty Professor (1996) $269,300,000
174. The Green Mile (1999) $268,700,000
175. Bambi (1942) $268,000,000
176. Scooby-Doo (2002) $267,600,000
177. xXx (2002) $267,200,000
178. Indecent Proposal (1993) $266,600,000
179. Jumanji (1995) $264,600,000
180. The Fifth Element (1997) $263,600,000
181. Lilo & Stitch (2002) $262,700,000
182. The Firm (1993) $262,300,000
183. Bad Boys II (2003) $261,900,000
184. Total Recall (1990) $261,400,000
185. Scary Movie (2000) $259,900,000
186. Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi (2001) $259,200,000
187. Charlie's Angels (2000) $258,500,000
188. The Full Monty (1997) $256,900,000
189. Erin Brockovich (2000) $256,500,000
190. The Village (2004) $255,395,633
191. Waterworld (1995) $255,200,000
192. Cliffhanger (1993) $255,000,000
193. Bridget Jones's Diary (2001) $254,400,000
194. Charlie's Angels: Full Throttle (2003) $252,500,000
195. Lara Croft: Tomb Raider (2001) $251,600,000
196. You've Got Mail (1998) $250,700,000
197. Hercules (1997) $250,600,000
198. The Truman Show (1998) $249,200,000
199. Babe (1995) $249,000,000
200. Unbreakable (2000) $248,900,000
201. Dumb & Dumber (1994) $246,200,000
202. Robots (2005) $245,600,000
203. Rush Hour (1998) $245,200,000
204. Enemy of the State (1998) $245,100,000
205. The Godfather (1972) $244,900,000
206. Four Weddings and a Funeral (1994) $244,100,000
207. Back to the Future Part III (1990) $243,700,000
208. 8 Mile (2002) $242,300,000
209. Hulk (2003) $241,700,000
210. Face/Off (1997) $241,600,000
211. The Blair Witch Project (1999) $240,500,000
212. 'Crocodile' Dundee II (1988) $239,600,000
213. Out of Africa (1985) $239,500,000
214. Love Actually (2003) $239,200,000
215. Die Hard 2 (1990) $237,700,000
216. A Few Good Men (1992) $237,300,000
217. Batman & Robin (1997) $237,200,000
218. Dead Poets Society (1989) $235,900,000
219. Eraser (1996) $234,400,000
220. 2 Fast 2 Furious (2003) $234,400,000
221. Big Daddy (1999) $233,500,000
222. The Mask of Zorro (1998) $233,400,000
223. Bean (1997) $232,000,000
224. Hauru no ugoku shiro (2004) $231,710,455
225. The English Patient (1996) $231,700,000
226. Sister Act (1992) $231,600,000
227. American Wedding (2003) $230,700,000
228. Gone in Sixty Seconds (2000) $230,500,000
229. The Ring (2002) $230,100,000
230. Artificial Intelligence: AI (2001) $230,000,000
231. Constantine (2005) $229,500,000
232. Vita è bella, La (1997) $228,900,000
233. Bridget Jones: The Edge of Reason (2004) $228,203,020
234. Sleepless in Seattle (1993) $227,900,000
235. Something's Gotta Give (2003) $227,500,000
236. Lethal Weapon 2 (1989) $227,300,000
237. Brother Bear (2003) $226,029,248
238. Good Will Hunting (1997) $225,800,000
239. Space Jam (1996) $225,400,000
240. One Hundred and One Dalmatians (1961) $224,000,000
241. Con Air (1997) $223,100,000
242. Honey, I Shrunk the Kids (1989) $222,700,000
243. The Little Mermaid (1989) $222,300,000
244. Presumed Innocent (1990) $221,300,000
245. Interview with the Vampire: The Vampire Chronicles (1994) $221,300,000
246. Fahrenheit 9/11 (2004) $220,078,393
247. Elf (2003) $219,700,000
248. The Prince of Egypt (1998) $218,400,000
249. The Terminal (2004) $217,845,279
250. Wild Wild West (1999) $217,700,000
251. Twins (1988) $216,600,000
252. Ghostbusters II (1989) $215,400,000
253. The Patriot (2000) $215,300,000
254. The Bourne Identity (2002) $213,500,000
255. Pulp Fiction (1994) $212,900,000
256. Vertical Limit (2000) $212,300,000
257. Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls (1995) $212,300,000
258. Disclosure (1994) $212,000,000
259. Entrapment (1999) $211,700,000
260. Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World (2003) $210,326,386
261. The Others (2001) $209,700,000
262. End of Days (1999) $209,300,000
263. Wo hu cang long (2000) $209,000,000
264. Jaws 2 (1978) $208,900,000
265. Red Dragon (2002) $208,600,000
266. Kingdom of Heaven (2005) $208,300,000
267. Collateral (2004) $208,003,492
268. Clear and Present Danger (1994) $207,500,000
269. Million Dollar Baby (2004) $207,400,000
270. Miss Congeniality (2000) $207,000,000
271. The Jungle Book (1967) $205,800,000
272. JFK (1991) $205,400,000
273. Traffic (2000) $204,800,000
274. Braveheart (1995) $204,000,000
275. Moonraker (1979) $202,700,000
276. Sleepy Hollow (1999) $202,000,000
277. Kindergarten Cop (1990) $202,000,000
278. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1990) $201,900,000
279. American Pie (1999) $201,700,000
280. Philadelphia (1993) $201,300,000
281. Vanilla Sky (2001) $201,000,000

Last update: 1 February 2006

And Firenze will be in it?! Ugh....we really don't need the Trelawny/Firenze stuff.

I have no idea why they decided to keep the Centaurs in the film. Is it really necessary to waste time on subplots like that? Well, I could accept it if the Centaurs are in because they want them to attack Umbridge, but then why is Grawp in it? I had assumed that the reason Grawp is included is that they are going to use him to attack Umbridge. Why are they keeping both Grawp and the Centaurs in?

I’m hoping against hope that the filmmakers have changed their mind and are not going to include Grawp after all… but I’m not feeling very optimistic.

Official cast updates:

-Imelda Staunton confirmed as Umbridge
-Helen McCrory is Bellatrix
-Evanna Lynch chosen for Luna Lovegood

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4670000/newsid_4672700/4672798.stm

-Helen McCrory is Bellatrix

I think that's an excellent choice :agree: She definitely looks the part in everything I've ever seen her in.

As a Harry Potter puritan I would love to see Centaurs in the film.
As someone who thoroughly enjoyed GoF, I think that it would be a shame to start detracting from the main theme of the film with unnecessary details.

Helen McCrory was mooted months ago, I'm glad she is confirmed.

..... still waiting for pictures of Young James and Luna.

I see the article on CBBC has been updated to include Natalia Tena (About a Boy) as Tonks.
Kathryn Hunter is named also: Mrs Figg, maybe?

I can't believe they're keep in Mrs. Figg. It already sounds like a bloated adaptation to me.

I have no idea why they decided to keep the Centaurs in the film. Is it really necessary to waste time on subplots like that? Well, I could accept it if the Centaurs are in because they want them to attack Umbridge, but then why is Grawp in it? I had assumed that the reason Grawp is included is that they are going to use him to attack Umbridge. Why are they keeping both Grawp and the Centaurs in?

I’m hoping against hope that the filmmakers have changed their mind and are not going to include Grawp after all… but I’m not feeling very optimistic.

Nor am I.


There is no indication that Emma Thompson is returning, either. Given the caliber of both of their names, we probably would have heard by now.

Regardless of Thompson returning or not, they would probably cast someone else, no?


MAJOR EDIT HERE: Ok, I got a bit carried away. I failed to see it was a differen't Centaur cast (Magorian), not Firenze. Nevermind!

I have no idea why they decided to keep the Centaurs in the film. Is it really necessary to waste time on subplots like that? Well, I could accept it if the Centaurs are in because they want them to attack Umbridge, but then why is Grawp in it? I had assumed that the reason Grawp is included is that they are going to use him to attack Umbridge. Why are they keeping both Grawp and the Centaurs in? .

Going back to the interview with Rowling and Kloves on the PS DVD (I think) if it's in it has some ultimate significance.

Going back to the interview with Rowling and Kloves on the PS DVD (I think) if it's in it has some ultimate significance.

They abandoned this strategy after it so badly backfired with PSS. The centaur scene there was one of the ones criticized as a tack-on to emulate the book without serving plot or story. (If you recall, the entire bloated and poorly done scene made a single point: Voldemort was after the stone; a decent adaptation would have found a way to do that as part of another scene.)

If the Centaurs are important in book VII, then movie VII has to establish that from scratch regardless of what OotP does. People are not going to remember throwaway scenes from a three-year old movie: except, perhaps, as a reason to not see the current HP film. Remember, PSS drove away one fifth of the HP audience, never to return. Things like centaurs were among the reasons why.


Still, this is a little off-topic. I think that most of us agree that they are making bad choices with the characters that they kept. The concern here should be, did they make the best of their bad choices?

We obviously have nothing on which to judge the girl playing Luna. If I remember the actress playing Tonks in "About a Boy," then there was not much to judge from her part. She does not have a huge track-record, but perhaps a no-name rather than another famous British face (e.g., Winslet) will work well here. The actress playing Umbridge is well-known and respected. So, they seem to be doing a pretty decent job.

I can't believe they're keep in Mrs. Figg. It already sounds like a bloated adaptation to me.
Bad screenwriter and director can screw up everything. With so many subplots evidently staying in this movies, we can expect either bloated adaptation by dumb hollywood filmmakers or logically and cleverly constructed epic story. I will never accept that opinion that you have to cut 80% of stuff to concentrate on important plots. Every baboon can do that. And because I believe that there's no return to 'Harry Potter and Home Alone' anymore, hopefully climatic details that created the success of the books can appear in the movies not distracting from what is vital to the story.

And I believe they will make prophecies the main theme of the movie.

I have read on Wikipedia.com that Coletrain may not return as Hagrid, what is going on?

Bad screenwriter and director can screw up everything. With so many subplots evidently staying in this movies, we can expect either bloated adaptation by dumb hollywood filmmakers or logically and cleverly constructed epic story.

Epic stories don't usually have this many subtle sub-plots. Harry Potter is far from epic, after all: it is very character drivien.


I will never accept that opinion that you have to cut 80% of stuff to concentrate on important plots. Every baboon can do that.

Baboons are monkeys, and not even as intelligent as apes. Yet to ape something is to mimic it. So, at best the baboons would ape the book, and it would take a bright one to do that.

And that is all Columbus could do. Moreover, adapting a story from the written medium to the stage or film medium really does take some skill: one has to identify exactly what is important to the plots and story, and what is just narrative "fun." It is little different from writing an essay in a college lit class: the two page essay that provides a lot of details from the book almost always gets a lower grade than the two paragraph essay telling the prof what the key plot elements were and what the story meant. A baboon might provide pages of what happened, but it takes someone who understands the story to succinctly summarize it.

The casting is relevant here: too many unneeded characters will distract the audience from the important plot and thematic elements. It robs them of any chance of developing the characters well enough so that the audience can remember them if they appear in future scenes of the same movie. Casting is certainly a case where less is more, at least for Harry Potter.


And I believe they will make prophecies the main theme of the movie.

That would be very unfortunate. Order is not a story about prophecy. Prophecy has nothing to do with the B-plot (Umbridge vs. Harry) or C-plot (Harry+Cho), and it is only a plot-element of the A-plot (Voldemort vs. Harry). The entire concept of prophecy does not appear until the very end, during the denouement.

However, comments from Yates & Goldenberg suggest that they are a bit closer to the story than this: they have talked about emphasizing Harry's anger and frustration, both of which are central to the actual story is.

Of course, the casting is a bit of a tip-off here. On one hand, they are including the centaurs, who could be used for this. On the other hand, there is no indication that Emma Thompson is returning, which suggests that Trelawney was cut. Given that the centaurs have other purposes, the casting suggests that prophecy will be just a plot element, as it is in the book.


I have read on Wikipedia.com that Coletrain may not return as Hagrid, what is going on?

Coltrane has been rumored to be less than enthralled with the part for a while. However, he is (after Dumbledore) perhaps the easiest character to replace without anybody noticing: the actor playing the part is so buried under prosthetics, makeup and hair that the face cannot really be seen, and the voice is so affected that any good actor would be able to affect it. One might notice the difference if one watched the movies back-to-back, but 95% of the audience will not have seen Hagrid in 18 months. It would be like Dumbledore, where the vast majority of the audience did not even notice the switch.

CBBC reports Luna Lovegood role has been cast (http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4670000/newsid_4672700/4672798.stm). Looks like they did pretty well with this casting, as she definitely has 'Luna eyes' and blonde hair.

Baboons are monkeys, and not even as intelligent as apes. Yet to ape something is to mimic it. So, at best the baboons would ape the book, and it would take a bright one to do that.Should I make myself clearer? If you have a vast book and want to translate it into compact movie, you:

1) use your intelligence to make the plot clear not losing all the details that create the atmosphere in process
2) cut everything except for the last scene and short introduction

And for me, it looks like the award-winning filmmaker (http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=163005) is heading towards the former, while cutting what you can't deal with is the easiest, dumbest way to achieve the goal.

Or just replace 'baboon' for 'troll' in my original post.

And that is all Columbus could do. Moreover, adapting a story from the written medium to the stage or film medium really does take some skill: one has to identify exactly what is important to the plots and story, and what is just narrative "fun."What Columbus did was replacing the details that create the mood of the books for hollywood fireworks that he called 'magic'. He could cut all scenes except for running in the pipes and it would still be lousy movie.

It is little different from writing an essay in a college lit class: the two page essay that provides a lot of details from the book almost always gets a lower grade than the two paragraph essay telling the prof what the key plot elements were and what the story meant. A baboon might provide pages of what happened, but it takes someone who understands the story to succinctly summarize it.A baboon would write a good summary. But they're not going to stick it to the screens I'm affraid, because it would cover the characters and scenes.

The casting is relevant here: too many unneeded characters will distract the audience from the important plot and thematic elements. It robs them of any chance of developing the characters well enough so that the audience can remember them if they appear in future scenes of the same movie. Casting is certainly a case where less is more, at least for Harry Potter.Did Fat Lady need a development? Or the Weird Sisters? Or Marauders for that matter?

That would be very unfortunate. Order is not a story about prophecy.Dunno which OotP you've read, but in my copy Harry leaves Dursleys to be protected (because of his fate Dumbledore knows), the prophecy/weapon is mentioned in one of the first chapters, the trio wants to solve it's mistery for the whole book, Harry hears about it in his dreams, which are also about trying to retrieve it from MoM. The final battle is all about the prophecy Harry holds in his hand, DE try to take from him, Voldy is mad when it crashes and tries to kill the hero. The final conversatin shows the prophecy, Neville's involvement (Voldemort's blood issues and another puzzle in Neville's backstory, apart from the St Mungo's scene) and Harry's fate which led him since book/movie one.

Firenze and centaurs are propheteers, who 'know' Harry's fate too. They should say it in movie one, but whatever, there were more important things in that one apparently. There was a prophecy made about Grawp too, and at the end of OotP and in HBP it proves to be wrong, which gives hope that the first prophecy will fail too. I"m sure that's what they keep him and Hagrid's story for.

Prophecy has nothing to do with the B-plot (Umbridge vs. Harry) or C-plot (Harry+Cho), and it is only a plot-element of the A-plot (Voldemort vs. Harry). The entire concept of prophecy does not appear until the very end, during the denouement.Unless you want to hint at the beginning (Hermione could do that) that non-existing Voldemort vs. Harry confrontation at the end, the prophecy keeps most of the plots together. Or would, if constructed well.

However, comments from Yates & Goldenberg suggest that they are a bit closer to the story than this: they have talked about emphasizing Harry's anger and frustration, both of which are central to the actual story is.I don't remember that one, but I know two other comments by filmmakers.

Heyman at the NYC premiere said Dan liked the script which emphasized Harry taking things in his hands and becoming some kind of a leader.

Official press announcement (http://www.prnewswire.co.uk/cgi/news/release?id=163005) states that:
In Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Harry returns for his fifth year of study at Hogwarts and discovers that much of the wizarding community is in denial about the teenager's recent encounter with the evil Lord Voldemort, preferring to turn a blind eye to the news that Voldemort has returned. Fearing that Hogwarts' venerable Headmaster, Albus Dumbledore, is lying about Voldemort's return in order to undermine his power and take his job, the Minister for Magic, Cornelius Fudge, appoints a new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher to keep watch over Dumbledore and the Hogwarts students. But Professor Dolores Umbridge's Ministry-approved course of defensive magic leaves the young wizards woefully unprepared to defend themselves against the dark forces threatening them and the entire wizarding community, so at the prompting of his friends Hermione and Ron, Harry takes matters into his own hands. Meeting secretly with a small group of students who name themselves "Dumbledore's Army," Harry teaches them how to defend themselves against the Dark Arts, preparing the courageous young wizards for the extraordinary battle that lies ahead.I've said it long time ago in the OotP thread that DA meetings will be the "meat" of the movie - as an effect of Umbredge's presence, important part of Harry's character development, place of his first kiss, place of development of all Rescue Mission members, preparation for the final MoM sequence, and generally showing school life in their fifth year, friendship, learning, romance, creating bonds, growing up, taking responsibility. I was bashed/ignored. Oh well.

Of course, the casting is a bit of a tip-off here. On one hand, they are including the centaurs, who could be used for this. On the other hand, there is no indication that Emma Thompson is returning, which suggests that Trelawney was cut. Given that the centaurs have other purposes, the casting suggests that prophecy will be just a plot element, as it is in the book.They may use Ms Figg instead of Trelawney. The less charcters the better [/sarcasm]

Coltrane has been rumored to be less than enthralled with the part for a while. However, he is (after Dumbledore) perhaps the easiest character to replace without anybody noticing: the actor playing the part is so buried under prosthetics, makeup and hair that the face cannot really be seen, and the voice is so affected that any good actor would be able to affect it. One might notice the difference if one watched the movies back-to-back, but 95% of the audience will not have seen Hagrid in 18 months. It would be like Dumbledore, where the vast majority of the audience did not even notice the switch.
I agree, he can be replaced. But it would be a shame and I'm sure WB will do its best to keep him. I'd wait for an official confirmation, but I'm sure that IF he was to be replaced, it would be much bigger information than keeping him, so no news is a good news, imo.

Fewer.

And perhaps this should all be said in the other thread? This is a casting speculation thread after all.

It should be said in OotP movie thread, but that thread is concentrated on a fanmade script I'm not familiar with and which is not compatible with casting news. The most in-touch with the news thread is... this one.

I've heard that HP4U posted that Luna's role is not really that big, and they often have information from WB insiders. That would also make sense after Krum and Fleur's role in GoF, which were close to nonexistand.

A baboon would write a good summary. But they're not going to stick it to the screens I'm affraid, because it would cover the characters and scenes.

Baboons don't get very good grades in English courses, and I've met a few literature PhD's: all of them were hominids.

Writing a good summary is not easy: it takes a thorough understanding of the story. Ditto for casting characters: if you don't need to include characters in your summary of thematic or plot elements, then they don't need to be in a movie.

That is how this is pertinent to casting: it seems that they are casting roles that don't need to be filled.


Dunno which OotP you've read, but in my copy Harry leaves Dursleys to be protected (because of his fate Dumbledore knows), the prophecy/weapon is mentioned in one of the first chapters, the trio wants to solve it's mistery for the whole book,

I read the OotP that is about isolation, the choices the create it, and the choices that arise from feeling isolated. Yes, there is a prophecy in the story: but that does not make OotP a story about prophecy anymore than OotP is about (say) Quidditch or SPEW or failed first romances. A story about prophecy would have prophecy as the uniting theme of the different plots: instead, a prophecy turns out to be the unknown "holy grail" for which the bad guy is searching. Whereas the plot-lines involving Umbridge, Cho, Hagrid & Grawp, even Ron & Quidditch, all focus on the isolation of individuals, prophecy never applies to any of them.


There was a prophecy made about Grawp too, and at the end of OotP and in HBP it proves to be wrong, which gives hope that the first prophecy will fail too. I"m sure that's what they keep him and Hagrid's story for.

There was no prophecy about Grawp. Grawp can serve two purposes. One, he serves the story about isolation, as it is Grawp that puts the barrier between Harry and Hagrid (especially with Hagrid refusing to confide in Harry). Two, he helps get rid of Umbridge.

Who is playing Grawp under the CGI? Any chance for Andy Serkis?

I agree, he can be replaced. But it would be a shame and I'm sure WB will do its best to keep him. I'd wait for an official confirmation, but I'm sure that IF he was to be replaced, it would be much bigger information than keeping him, so no news is a good news, imo.

Nothing concrete has been said at all, which suggests that nothing has been decided. Coltrane's publicists would get out the word quickly enough.


It should be said in OotP movie thread, but that thread is concentrated on a fanmade script I'm not familiar with and which is not compatible with casting news. The most in-touch with the news thread is... this one.

That thread is an academic exercise about what the movie should do, not what it will do!


I've heard that HP4U posted that Luna's role is not really that big, and they often have information from WB insiders. That would also make sense after Krum and Fleur's role in GoF, which were close to nonexistand.

That is an apples & oranges comparison. Krum & Fleur both are quaternary characters in GoF story. They get almost no development and really are just plot elements.

Luna is a tertiary character that borders on becoming a secondary one. Her character interactions with Harry are very important. Indeed, the true denouement of the story is the conversation between Harry and Luna at the end: that is the incident that shatters Harry's self-erected walls of isolation and make him truly empathize with someone else for the first time in the story. Harry never has anything close to that level of interaction with Fleur or Krum.


Of course, there will not be much room to do too much with her: Cho also has a larger role in OotP, and Ron & Hermione (although necessarily reduced) are still there. Ginny's role also is appreciable. Still, Luna should be a prominent tertiary character, on par with Ginny.



And perhaps this should all be said in the other thread? This is a casting speculation thread after all.

The topics are inexorably intertwined. Who they cast for a particular role is one side of the coin. Why they cast the role is the other. Overcasting is a symptom of not having a clear grasp of the story. As I wrote above, it is no different from grading a essay in literature (or sciences): a plethora of details often is just a mask for failing to recognize the meaning of the deatils. I am worried that we are seeing that here.

I might be alone in this, but if Coltrane left, I wouldn't feel too bad. If he's not dedicated to the part or the story, then I'd rather have someone who is.

I like Hagrid / Coltrane a lot - to me he's spot on, and he just got knighted for his place in kids hearts. I'm thinking it's a ploy to up his price.

Columbus paced the films he did for kids. I've watched it like 12,000 times, and I still enjoy it. I also think he created the family atmosphere on the set that so many have referred to. I cannot allow people to diss Columbus !!! And I don't notice any lack of audience for the Harry Potter movies.

I have to check out these new castings.

IF they are keeping the Centaurs and Grawp it leads me to believe that we will have a war of the worlds book 7 with every magical creature involved in a full scale war on the Ministry - while Harry frantically seeks the horcruxes.

I agree with Wimsey that over-casting a part can be a sign they don't understand the character, and hope the star will figure it out. Although I loved Branaugh and Thompson in their roles ! So I'm happy if they go with quality, lesser known actors.

Luna is a tertiary character that borders on becoming a secondary one. :upset: Sounded like my epitath there for a sec.

Her character interactions with Harry are very important. Indeed, the true denouement of the story is the conversation between Harry and Luna at the end: that is the incident that shatters Harry's self-erected walls of isolation and make him truly empathize with someone else for the first time in the story. Harry never has anything close to that level of interaction with Fleur or Krum.

Of course, there will not be much room to do too much with her: Cho also has a larger role in OotP, and Ron & Hermione (although necessarily reduced) are still there. Ginny's role also is appreciable. Still, Luna should be a prominent tertiary character, on par with Ginny. *phew* Yes I agree. To me she's like a rudder on a ship, she keeps that book on line spiritually. :tu: :tu: :tu:

Baboons don't get very good grades in English courses, and I've met a few literature PhD's: all of them were hominids.I got lost. What were we talking about?

Writing a good summary is not easy: it takes a thorough understanding of the story. Ditto for casting characters: if you don't need to include characters in your summary of thematic or plot elements, then they don't need to be in a movie.

That is how this is pertinent to casting: it seems that they are casting roles that don't need to be filled.I see a movie as a sequence of pictures, not lines. The fact that Frank Bryce appears on screen doesn't mean his name has to be mentioned, his backstory explained; his place in the story is defined by two words: "Bloody kids". He was there to introduce Barty Crouch and Voldy's plan and to start the movie from muggle PoV.

I know Dementor scene in OotP would work without Mrs Figg, but maybe they want to keep Harry's hearing, introduce Umbridge and why she teaches like she does, to show Percy's attitude towards his family and Harry's revelation. Using women who witnessed dementors' attack is the easiest way to explained how Harry got off. She lives near Harry and works for Dumble.

I read the OotP that is about isolation, the choices the create it, and the choices that arise from feeling isolated.Of course it is. But you need scenes and characters to portray it. You can't write a summary: this movie is about isolation. You need hearing, Percy, Seamus, Umbridge and Hermione reading Daily Prophet to show how Harry is treated lately and Sirius to show why he made his choice. DA to show his character changing. And the weapon/prophecy to make it run in the right direction.

Yes, there is a prophecy in the story: but that does not make OotP a story about prophecy anymore than OotP is about (say) Quidditch or SPEW or failed first romances.Yes it does (reasons above). Failed first romance of Harry was in GoF and will be in OotP, Hermione's was in GoF, Ron's will be in HBP for sure. They're not connected with the prophecy, but they're quite a bit part of Harry's life and anyway, there has to be romance in every movie. (Well, maybe not, but I can't see WB cutting it.) And anyway (MTV (http://www.mtv.com/movies/news/articles/1523096/story.jhtml))Radcliffe prepared for "Phoenix" by meeting with a bereavement counselor so he could understand survivor's guilt, since his two main relationships in this film — with his godfather Sirius Black and new girlfriend Cho Chang — are grounded in a mutual need to bond with another person after a great, shared loss.What's happening around Harry - people dying because they happened to stand between him and LV, has a great impact on different parts of Harry's life. Harry is a scary boyfriend. One or two (canon) chats with Cho about Cedric, one question why Cedric had to die, one line about Harry realisisng he's a Marked Man and we have more than enough to connect romance to Harry's fate/prophecy in the end.

There was no prophecy about Grawp. Grawp can serve two purposes. One, he serves the story about isolation, as it is Grawp that puts the barrier between Harry and Hagrid (especially with Hagrid refusing to confide in Harry). Two, he helps get rid of Umbridge.I can't see Grawp in the story about "isolation". Hagrid is on Hary's side. Finding his brother won't serve as reason to isolate with Harry - why would it?

He does help to get rid of Umbridge - but that just 10 seconds of mayhem in the wood, there has to be other reason to introduce him in the first place. Like:
1. They want to introduce giants (maybe JK wants to have them in book/movie 7).
2. They think it's cool to have Godzilla in the movie.
3. The prophecy about Grawp will play bigger role later (I've already mentioned it!)

After one of Divination lessons, Firenze calls Harry and tells him to pass the message for Hagrid - "It's not working." But Hagrid loves Grawp and won't ever give up. At the end of OotP Grawp looks at Harry and Hermione and asks where Hagrid was. At the end of HBP we see him fully clothed at DD's funeral.

There was one more prophecy made by centaurs - in PS Firenze saves Harry from Quirrel. Other centaurs said he intervened in the fate. Later Firenze said that he wished Harry best and hoped the prophecy is wrong.

That thread is an academic exercise about what the movie should do, not what it will do!Thank you. That's all I wanted to hear. (Minus the academic part, as I'm not familiar with "academic" fanscripts and anyway, it's hard to have in high regard something that constantly proves to be different than what WB is doing).

it's hard to have in high regard something that constantly proves to be different than what WB is doing). I don't think there's anything wrong with that, it's fun to work on a project like that :) Just because it's not the real thing , doesn't mean that there aren't some valid and interesting ideas.

However, the fact that even fans can work on a script should show pretty well how there is no absolute right or wrong way to make an adaptation, there are no absolute truths - and that there are indeed tons of ways of making a good work. I think some people are failing to see this and that's why the outcry (quite exagerated in my opinion) about the inclusion of some characters. How can we be so quick to point huge failures and mistakes if 1)we haven't seen the script 2)we haven't seen the movie! LOL!

We should be a little more tolerant and instead of only saying "X character should be ditched because they should be able to cut it by doing ______" (and really, we can actually cut pretty much everything if we wish!), they should also try to understand why the reason given character is being included. For example, I've read suggestions that Rita Skeeter should not have been in GOF because she was "unnecessary". I really disagree because she was the perfect way to work the "famous-Harry" angle. Anyway, guess what: she was there, Miranda Richardson gave a brilliant performance and from what I could tell by talking with friends, she very much stood out and people loved her. Could you do without her? Maybe, like I said, we can dispose of almost everything if we wish. Was it a mistake to have her? Absolutely not. It works the same way with other characters and parts of the movie.

Columbus paced the films he did for kids. I've watched it like 12,000 times, and I still enjoy it. I also think he created the family atmosphere on the set that so many have referred to. I cannot allow people to diss Columbus !!! And I don't notice any lack of audience for the Harry Potter movies.


Thank you! I get so tired of all the high-horses people get on, saying how much better 3 and 4 were. I thought Columbus did an excellent job introducing people to the Harry Potter world, and still (after, like you, the 12,000th time) get a smile on my face when Harry picks up his wand for the first time, and walks into the great hall for the first time. No, it's not "art," but it's an adaptation of a children's book, so why should it be? I still don't understand why there is so much Mexican culture in a movie about British schoolchildren...

I love that the luna pic seems to be:a rabid HP fan have been touched by illness at an early age - the shadow of suffering that so marks her character

You know, it's good that our Luna is a fan of HP, because it might just help her portrait her character better. I think they dyed her hair too blond... she almost looks like Draco's little sister! But I guess we really need to see other pics and wait till we see her act, to really judge her. :)

The Daily Record (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/news/tm_objectid=16664789%26method=full%26siteid=66633-name_page.html) reports that young Lily Potter has been cast. She will be played by 17-year old Susie Shinner. The article also says that Robbie Jarvis, who will play James Potter, is 19 years old.

Unfortunately, there's no picture of her.