What character has redeemed themself in your eyes for you?

ok, there must have been characters you totally hated but after reading DH, has it changed your feelings towards that character and redeemed him/herself to you? If so, which ones?

i know Kreacher has for me, and probably Snape but thats it. :tu:

For me too, Kreacher and Snape have redeemed.

I mean, I never liked Kreacher, because of how Harry and Sirius were feeling about him. But after I read that part when Kreacher was making food for Harry, Ron and Hermione, clearly with a changed attitude towards them, and in the end when he was battling at Hogwarts, I felt somewhat proud of him.

Snape...well, I always saw him through the Harry filter, at least until the memory in OotP. After HBP I was sure he was not what Harry believed him to be -- yet I was one of those people who needed to see clear, black ink on white paper, that I was right. After reading DH, he is now my favourite character.

Oh, and I also feel that Lucius redeemed in my eyes, because the only thing he was caring about in the forest was Draco's life.

I'd also say it was the Malfoys. People have called their behaviour cheap, too cowardly for proper villains, but I know what it feels like to have children. Parents will do strange things when their children are in danger.

I think the greatest redemption, even more than Kreacher's or Snapes (of whose allegiances I'd been pretty sure from the end of the fist book onwards), was Dudley's. I liked how his change of heart was handled, just a few words that weren't an actual abuse, and that was it.

Percy didn't redeem himself for me, for some reason. I'd have liked some actual crucial moment for him to realize how much of an idiot he'd made of himself. In the end, he remained as much a turncoat as ever.

Two:

1.) Ron- I like Ron, he's the heart and humor of the three, but since book 4 he's been a moody little cuss and has seemed on the verge of dropping off the back with every chapter. In DH he literally did leave, but he also came back in a big way. Sometimes the heart gets weak, but in its weakness, in realizing or accepting its weakness, there is true strength.

2.) Snape- easy one. I really hate "gotcha" style endings, ("Yeah, he was a jerk, but he loved puppies and did arts'n'crafts with old people on Sundays.") but in the end I really enjoyed watching Snape do his little minuet with the devil. I'm looking forward to rereading the series and relishing every bit of snark all over again.

Well, there is Percy for a start. I really used to hate him sometimes! :D
Then, there are Draco Malfoy and his mother...I knew about Snape for quite some time, so that one doesn't count.. and the thing about Kreacher still seems too rushed to me to feel realistic.
Dudley sounded plausible, though. Well, I couldn't say he's quite redeeemed, but definitely much better ! Young people always leave so much more space for hope then older ones do :)

I hold grudges too long so I cant really see Snape redeemed for me yet. I still think he is a twit. Just not a purely evil one anymore.
Kreacher I forgive though. I felt sorry for all he'd been through.

I think I'm still a bit annoyed at Dumbledore. I was so attached to the idea of him being 100% wise, noble and good, that I'm not quite ready to give it up and realise that he also had his faults.

oh its just gotta be Snape, i hated him through the whole of all the books, right until i found out the truth, when i go back and read than all again, i wont think the same about him now :)

Kreacher has, because I thought he would always be an evil little runt, but it turned out he wasn't, and all it took was a few kind words from his master... even though I feel that he turned good a little too quickly.

And Snape, I thought he too was evil through and through, but he was actually a misguided person, who lost someone he loved to someone he hated.

i dont know why, but i never liked Ron. but after reading this book and him saving harry and destroying the locket, he redeemed himself big time in my eyes.

i see a lot of people talking about the malfoys redeeming themselves, but i dont think they did, they just kind of gave up on voldemort. i think if they had it their way every muggle born would still be persecuted.

i see a lot of people talking about the malfoys redeeming themselves, but i dont think they did, they just kind of gave up on voldemort. i think if they had it their way every muggle born would still be persecuted.

i see a lot of people talking about the malfoys redeeming themselves, but i dont think they did, they just kind of gave up on voldemort. i think if they had it their way every muggle born would still be persecuted.

for me it was Percy, it just gave a really nice boost, where it was needed..

Kreacher too, he became a really cool elf.. me wants ^^

Definitely Kreacher - I never liked him, mostly for the reasons that Harry and Sirius didn't, but also because he was nasty to the only person who was kind to him (Hermione). However, after his story about Voldemort trying to kill him, as well as seeing him making dinner for the Trio and yelling "Fight for my master," I really like the little guy.

Percy, definitely - he definitely was a twit throughout the last few books, but I think he redeemed himself by coming to his family's aid in the end, and his reaction to Fred's death was just heartbreaking.

And now we come to the big one - Snape. Yes, I guess he was redeemed. He was immensely brave and he knew the power of love. However, I still don't like him, basically because he's not a nice person. I still remember how he used to enjoy tormenting Neville in potions class, and how he made fun of Malfoy's teeth when Malfoy hexed her. So in short, I guess he is redeemed - and Harry certainly forgave him - but I still don't like him as a person.

I think that there are a few... Kreacher and Snape being the most obvious..... and I think that Narcissa did at the end, even if it was for selfish reasons at least she changed her way of thinking!
Draco definately did not redeem himself. Even at the very end he, Crabbe and Goyle were trying to capture Harry! Draco didnt have to be there with them did he?

I would say "Percy", but I always felt that both sides were "wrong", so he's out. I would say Snape...but I never felt that he was a "bad guy", and that there was more to his killing Dumbledore than he let on.

I'd have to go with Dudley and Kreacher.

I'd say Snape, definitely. Kreacher I always felt sorry for....and oh yes, Grindelwald, in trying to lie to Voldemort at the very end.

Narcissa Malfoy.

I don't really hate any characters, but these are the ones I've done a turnaround on...

Percy. Yay Percy! I was so sad when he became a jerk in OotP (because Weasleys = love), so it was really nice to see the family back together. For a while D:

Augusta Longbottom. Finally, she gets a clue!

For me it was the Malfoys and Snape. The scene where Narcissa and Lucius are running through the battle scene searching for their son, not even looking at the chaos around them, was for me one of the most moving parts of the book. And Snape, well, isn't he just fabby!

Kreacher, Snape, Narcissa, Percy, KIND OF Draco (though I really don't think he's changed much..I think he didn't sell out the trio for selfish reasons), probably more...there was a whole lot of redemption.

O.K. I know that I am prob. supposed to say Snape, but really... he didn't... I still think that Snape was someone who sided with himself. If it was in his best interests... then he did it... if not... he didn't bother. So no he hasn't been redeemed in my eyes, but yes def. Kreacher....
I'd say that I thought Kreacher really rather wonderful after he finally had someone treat him right. After the trio didn't return to the house that night... I was really rather worried about Kreacher. I mean... no telling what he was made to go through. I honestly worried about him throughout the rest of the book until finally he was mentioned several chapters later. I kept thinking... man..... why don't they try to at least find out if he is o.k. They would have... had it been Dobby.... I mean really... Kreacher was Harry's house-elf and they could have called him. I mean really wait a day or so and your safe from the idea of someone coming along on his shirt tale. Geezzzz... anyway, I really was glad to read that he was able to change clothes and actually be clean.
Draco never was really redeemed in my eyes... I mean really... clear up through the final battle he remained quite the brat...
Granted he stopped trying to kill Harry after Harry saved his life---- yeahhhhh saved his life from a fire that was started by one of Malfoy's friends who was trying to help Malfoy kill Harry, Hermione and Ron. Ummmm... sorry, but allowing someone to save your Life from something that you started while trying to kill said person... doesn't redeem them.... I mean really that's called self-preservation. Draco's mother on the other hand... mostly I think that she (though-out the book) was more concerned for her son then trying to worry about where her alliegence lay. Granted J.K.R. said that she shared many of the same views as her husband, but again... that could be chalked up to simple.... (before Draco) being young and STUPID and (after Draco) self-preservation for herself, her child and her husband.
IMO she told Voldemort the lie so that she could go up to the castle and save her son... Had Draco not been in the castle and Harry had said so... well then she prob. would not have lied.
Anyway, just my take on things... oh... and um.... no nothing could ever redeem Draco's father.... I mean really... we have been shown from the very beginning that he is not about anything else besides SELF Preservation.... and people like him tend to go with whatever they think is in there own best interest.

I would say Percy for sure. He came back and fought alongside his family. Kreacher definietly, he helped Harry, fought for Harry, and actually showed the trio compassion. Also I would say Snape, even though I think everyone knew Snape was good.

Actually, it was Dumbledore for me. I know that he was never bad, but like Harry, I was always frustrated with him! I really enjoyed the chapters about Dumbledore's youth because they exposed another side of him. It showed that he wasn't by any means perfect and that he had flaws. This really redeemed him in my eyes because it showed how his true concern was for Harry and hoped that he didn't make any of the same mistakes that he did in his youth.

For me, it's Ron. I see the only values he add in the first 6 books are the comic relief he provides and being there as Harry's loyal sidekick. His courageous act in saving Harry finally proved him worthy to be in Gryffindor!

Not Draco, in my eyes, certainly. Harry pretty much had the measure of him in HBP -- he felt even then (at the end) that Draco would have dropped his wand and not killed Dumbledore and that he seemed to sincerely be terrified of Voldemort and what he'd do to his family. But this does not mean that Draco redeemed himself in any way. He still had is heiney saved by Harry and Company twice, and continued to be a self-serving punk.

Lupin redeemed himself in DH even as he disappointed me in the same book. I considered him an unworthy father and a rotten husband -- and then he redeemed himself by coming homw, making amends and stepping up to the plate.

Most diffinately Kreature and Snape, I was pleased to see Percy come to his senses and his reaction to Fred's death was so sad, only I'm still not sure he can be trusted. Dudley'sturn arround needs a bit more convincing to me.
The Malfoys didn't really change that much as I can see Yes they care about each other more then anything else but I still feel they're conceited and selfish

I found myself unexpectedly sympathetic with Narcissa and Lucius. True, they're not the best people in the world--they got in too deep with Voldemort and Lucius in particularly facilitated alot of heinous deeds. But at the end of the day, they were purely concerned with Draco's safety. Not exactly redemption, but I don't loathe them anymore.

I found Percy's comeback to be incredibly forced.

Kreacher. Dudley.

I've come to truly dislike Draco Malfoy.

I have renewed respect for his parents too though, who proved they could love..

I never liked Snape, although I thought that he might be good. I didn't think I would be able to forgive him for being so mean to Harry, Sirius, Remus etc. but well... I think he redeemed himself. I still don't think that he was the most fantastic man in the world but I can accept him now and I think he was quite brave.

Kreacher, of course... he didn't just help Harry to find the locket, he also behaved very nice to the trio and fought for Harry's side in the final battle.

Percy, well.... I always thought he was going to return. I can forgive him for being such an idiot. He was just stupid, not mean or cruel.

Draco on the other hand, no chance that I would forgive him! Right, maybe he wasn't a killer but he was a real coward which may be just as bad when people like Voldemort and Bellatrix are around. Same with Lucius. I' a bit divided about Narcissa, she really helped Harry but you know... she's just as cowardly as her husband and son. Though if there was one Malfoy who redeemed her/himself it was undoubtedly Narcissa.

The only 2 for me were kreacher and Dudley, who realized their faults and made amends.

As far as Snape and the Malfoys, i think they are in the same boat. Yes Snapes actions were brave but the fact he loved Lilly didn't make up for him being an A** to harry for 6 years. Snape still held to much hate to be redeemed. The Malfoys were too selfish for their actions to be genuine-

There were tons! I couldn't believe it!

First of all, Snape, of course. Before reading the book, I thought that Snape was working with Dumbledore, but I still hated him. He infuriated me constantly because of the way he treated Harry. Then I read the Prince's Tale chapter and suddenly, I stopped hating him. I still don't overly like him, but when I realized how much he loved Lily and how he never, ever stopped loving her, he no longer angered me. I also gained respect for him because of the way he stayed loyal to Dumbledore the entire time even though it was really hard.

I have similar feelings for Draco Malfoy. I hated him even more than Snape. I still don't like him, but I don't hate him anymore. During the chapter at the Malfoy Manor, he could have told everybody that it was Harry, Ron and Hermione, but he didn't. Also, the way he hated being a Death Eater made me feel kind of bad for him. I know it was his choice, but still...

Percy and Kreacher also redeemed themselves in my eyes. Kreacher's story was really well done. When Percy was crying over Fred's dead body, I stopped disliking him immediately.

Snape Kreacher Narcissa and Draco.

I dont see why anyone is so convinced snape is evile because he was "mean" to harry. Mean is a long way from evil. And you have to admit...some of Snapes insults to Harry were HILARIOUS!!

there was plenty of redemption really wasnt there?

First of the biggie Snape - need anything even be said.

Kreacher obviously,

Regulus, he did try and destroy a Horcrux, lets not forget that folks!

two Weasley redemptions. Ron and Percy, both for returning.

Dudley - finally saw the light.

Lupin - was really behaving terribly at the start of DH but he got his act together.

Narcissa Malfoy - the only Malfoy I wil grant this too. Maybe for selfish reasons but she didnt give Harry away. Lucius didnt actually do anything redeeming. Draco, maybe... I think he was just led by bad parenting and wasnt all that bad himself.

The biggie for me was Harry himself. In my opinion, Harry has been quite conceited in recent books, I was starting to seriously go off his character but I think JK caught this in time. When Hermione walked in on him reading Lilys letter, for example, I expected him to go off in a strop of embarassment, but he was quite grown up about it.

He changed back into a decent person, for me, in DH.

The obvious ones to me were Kreacher & Dudley. I didn't see either of those changes coming. I thought Kreacher was just naturally a nasty piece of work, but it was nice to see that he was that way because of how he had been treated. I absolutely loved the bit where he belted Mundungus with the frying pan - "Once more, Mr Harry, just for luck!"

I was very pleased and moved when Dudley showed himself grateful to Harry - a big changeround for someone who had been so totally spoiled and who had been taught all his life that Harry was useless. I was a bit sorry we saw so little of the new, improved Dudley.

I'd never liked Percy much even before he abandoned the family - a boring prat - but he did redeem himself in my eyes through his reaction to Fred's death, especially when you remember Fred was the person who had done most of the tormenting him - but was also the first to welcome him back.

I couldn't see any good in the Malfoys before this but I was surprised at Lucius putting his son first, so I like him a bit more now. Narcissa came good I thought.

As for Snape, I'd seen him as a good guy and the reasons he killed Dumbledore were the ones I thought, so no surprises there. I still thought he was an unpleasant character though, particularly to Neville who he had no reason to dislike, and I can't say his love for Lily redeemed him in my eyes as he never became a nice person.

Oh yeah, I forgot Dudley.

I was sooooo convinced that Snape was on Voldemort's side that his was the greatest redemption to me.
I loved the way Kreacher came to accept Harry - see how powerful is the power of love? Not that Harry loved Kreacher, but treating him with consideration and kindly made all the difference.
And Narcissa, she proved to be more a mother than a Death Eater, dragging her husband with her to "redemption".
Dudley and Percy, I really rather expected this. I cried tears of emotion when Percy turned up at the tunnel.

Snape, obviously, especially when he told Phineas Nigellus not to use the word 'mudblood'. I ended up almost loving Kreacher, and the Malfoys kind of redeemed themselves in some way. I mean, they are cowards, but not so evil after all. Dudley too, even though it was such a short moment. It was a bit late to thank Harry after too years, but it's better than nothing.

Making it short:

Lupin - turned from arse to decent, when he stopped running from responsibility. Family comes first.
Narcissa- she may have shared her husbands views but she was no Death Eater, and she did love her son and husband above all. She saved Harry.
Lucius - his love for his son made him risk his own life to find him. He was without his wand and running wandless through a battlefield with nothing to protect himself from physical harm. He cared more for his son's safety than his own. That redeemd him, at least, slighty in my eyes. Not that many would dare run through a battlefield without weapons of some sort.
Kreacher - he was a very unpleasant creature, but he actually did good, in the end.

I'm sure there are more but their names escapes me for the moment.

Kreacher certainly redeemed himself. I never liked him but he was so lovable after Harry won him over. Dudley surprised me. I never expected to thank Harry like that, to want Harry to go with them. I was hoping Petunia would redeem herself, but she didn't, which was very disappointing.

I was already in the Malfoy and Snape are good camp so they didn't really redeemed themselves, but it was gratifying to see that I had been right for the most part.

Ah, yes, I was surprised about Dudleys reaction as well.

Snape- easy one. I really hate "gotcha" style endings, ("Yeah, he was a jerk, but he loved puppies and did arts'n'crafts with old people on Sundays.") but in the end I really enjoyed watching Snape do his little minuet with the devil. I'm looking forward to rereading the series and relishing every bit of snark all over again.

I agree with you on Snape, and I have to say that since I never believed he was truly bad in the first place, it made it that much more enjoyable to watch him snarking around like an overgrown bat. I always loved Snape's sense of sarcasm and his cutting remarks.

I think Mrs. Weasley really redeemed herself in the final book, as well - she proved she wasn't just a worry-warting fussbudget - she could kick the nargles out of anyone who threatened her kids! WOOT WOOT WOOT!!!

Snape is also obviously the big one for me - the teacher I most hated through the series, and even more after Dumbledore's death, but to realise he was on Dumbledores side all along and really did care for Harry in the end, he just had a big turnaround in my eyes! :)

Dudley - this child just kept getting on my nerves more and more, but his last minute concern for Harry really did quite shock me, and it's raised up my likeability level for him more slightly and it's higher than Vernon and Petunia's scale.

Dumbeldore - this is a weird choice I know, but I turned on him then back around again in the DH book alone, his biography made him appear as quite selfish and that letter proof thing kinda changed my mind about him, but then a few odd chapters later, he came back and showed his apologies and kindness through Harry once more.

Kreacher (loved Kreacher - and I really never expected to ever say that), Snape (I thought he would turn out good, though, and would have been bitterly disappointed if he hadn't), and Dudley (I really wanted to see Harry reunite briefly with the Dursley's at the end, maybe to see them back to Privet Drive.)

I felt surprising sympathy for all of the Malfoys in this book - and I had really wanted Lucious to die an excruciating, horrible death in this book. But I wouldn't call them redeemed - familial love may have caused them to act, but they were still selfish and cowardly (except Narcissa - Voldemort probably would have killed her for covering for Harry if he'd had the opportunity.)

And a really mean, petty part of me was happy Draco's hairline is receding, since Lucious is all about the hair.:p

Snape, Draco and Narcissia (Lucius was always good in my eyes!!:p)

I can honestly say I loved how all the characters were written before, during, and after DH. JK has an amazing knack for writing in-character and yet developing the characters steadily. All the changes the characters go through make perfect sense based on their circumstances. My only beef might be Ginny. Just shy of being of age and she's denied her chance to shine. We know she's probably the most gifted of the bunch, yet she's kept down. I really didn't see Ginny allowing that to happen because she's always seemed to firey to me. She did allow herself to be the only one not present at the table in OotP, but she was much younger then (2 years makes a big difference at that age, especially in such hard times). She just seemed so much more grown up at the end of HBP to me. I thought she's insist on going with Harry. Still, maybe it speaks to her maturity that she's picking her battles. Maybe she's willing to put her own pride aside to bow to the wisdom of her parents and the wishes of Harry, knowing that her being a little more safe will give them the peace of mind to do what they must. Ok, I talked myself through that one. No beefs here. :)

Definaly Kretcher, he suprised me the most out of everyone! Snape i never really knew where his loyalties were although i never really trusted him. He sort of redeems himself except he only did it because of Lily i wish he would have had something else that he used in order to bind himself to Dumbledores side, or more Lilys side then anything.

Definaly Kretcher, he suprised me the most out of everyone! Snape i never really knew where his loyalties were although i never really trusted him. He sort of redeems himself except he only did it because of Lily i wish he would have had something else that he used in order to bind himself to Dumbledores side, or more Lilys side then anything.

ooo i forgot about kretcher, then again i never had any beef with him as i wasn't that keen on sirius anyway

Well Snape redeemed himself for me in Book 6 (mainly in Spinner's End - was impressed with how well he handled himself and at the end - was a militant member of 'Snape-is-Good' camp)

In Deathly Hallows I'd have to say

Kreacher - although I never hated him that much (especially considering the role he played in Sirius's death), I didn't expect to like him as much as I do now

Percy - I loved him at the end, there were moments when he wasn't an *** before (jumping around like an idiot when they won the Quidditch Cup, and splashing out into the water to meet Harry and Ron after the Second Task), but they were all pre-OotP so it was nice to see a better side again (although I like how he was still pompous)

Molly - good to see her do a non-household spell

Lucius Malfoy - knew Narcissa valued Draco more than Voldemorte but never expected Lucius to care that much about his son

However, randomly enough, if there was ever a character who put themselves well an truly out of reach of any sort of redemption in my eyes was Albus Dumbledore, mainly in his treatment of Snape (especially they part where he tried to trick him into inheriting the Elder Wand, didn't warn him that bu killing him he would end up being it's master (or at least look like he was) and that whoever posessed it (or looked like they were the one to possess it) would have a large target painted on their back and then finally with that 'poor Severus' line which such sounded horrifically glib and horrendous and reminded me horribly of how Cornelius Fudge casually threw out how Sirius was actually innocent to the Muggle Primeminister... hmph so yeh, Albus is off the Christmas card list this year :)

I found Percy's comeback to be incredibly forced.

Yeah I agree. Not only forced but random! All of a sudden he was at Hogwarts and ready to fight? :lol: Maybe a little more could have been explained about good ole Percy.

Yeah I agree. Not only forced but random! All of a sudden he was at Hogwarts and ready to fight? :lol: Maybe a little more could have been explained about good ole Percy.

i didn't know how to feel when percy came back and i still haven't made my mind up. i think i'm still brooding about how annoying he was

For me, it was Snape, Kreacher, Draco, Narcissa, and Dudley.

I always knew that there was more to Snape than JKR was telling us. I refused point blank to see him as an enemy until I knew it for sure.

Kreacher was obviously very caring once someone did something to make him happy. As much as I hate to be rude to Sirius, he was rather rude to Kreacher and so Kreacher could never love him. Harry was nice to him, and I believe we finally saw the real Kreacher in DH.

Draco was reluctant, however much he insisted he hated Harry, to give Harry away. He wasn't meant to be a Death Eater, and I believe his true colors show in DH.

Narcissa didn't seem to care much about Voldemort in DH, as long as Draco was safe. I admire her for her courage, lying to Voldemort and all.

Dudley showed acts of kindness to Harry in DH. I think he had a change of heart in this book. He finally shows a bit of remorse after all he's done to Harry. It almost made me cry when I read that part!

Certainly Kreacher and Dudley: while Narcissa, Snape, Draco, Lucius, and others all did wonderful things that showed their true natures, I think there were enough clues in the other books that they did have those natures that I never really gave up on them. Narcissa in particular has showed throughout all of the books that her primary motivation has been her son, and I think Lucius as well to a certain extent. One wonders if Draco was simply all their hope and promise, as it's already stated that the older wizarding families are dying out. Draco is Narcissa and Lucius's only child, and they are not likely to have another: if he fails in some way or dies, they will never have another chance, and I think that's why they pushed him so hard. Snape, too, demonstrated caring even outside of his love for Lily, in his gentleness to Narcissa, which was utterly not required.

But Kreacher! Foul-mouthed, hateful Kreacher, whose ambition was to end up a severed head on a plaque just like his mother, I still could find no forgiveness for until we realize just how very, very loyal he was, and why, and that when approached right, he, too, could have his own personal redemption. It may not have been Hermione's wished-for independence, but he grows significantly and demonstrates fascinating depths in the last book-as does Dudley, who is uncomfortable going to safety and leaving Harry behind, when Harry refused to do such a thing during the Dementor attack. I would certainly have looked forward to seeing more there-I wonder if Dudley's example of becoming a better person slowly might change Petunia? She and Lily loved each other once, and there must have been some genuine affection there for a reason.

Kreacher, for sure. He made me quite angry, especially in OotP. But after seeing him taking care of Grimmauld Place and cooking meals and leading the House Elves, I had a change of heart. It's just too bad Sirius and Harry couldn't have been nicer to him sooner.

Dudley, too. He's still not a favorite of mine, but it was nice to see him not beat up on Harry for once.

And I suppose the Malfoys as well. Especially Narcissa. She was always so snobbish, which irritated me. But I felt bad seeing how worried she and Lucius were about Draco, and of course it was pretty awesome when Narcissa told Voldemort that Harry was dead.

I would say Snape, but I always liked him. :)

I think Kreacher redeemed himself. I never really liked Kreacher all too much, but I do now. When I read the few chapters when they were at Grimmauld Place, I was smiling to whole time for some reason... Kreacher making them food and wishing them luck... then fighting against Voldemort... so great.

Then there's Snape. I have always liked Snape and he has always been a favourite character of mine. I always knew he was good, and DH confirmed that for me. I still stand by my opinion that Snape's death was bad... in terms of the way he died... a man that talented and great should have taken a few Death Eaters and Voldemorts arm if he could of managed a good Sectumsempra!

... Kreacher, and Dudley =)

... I was so sad when they couldn't go back to see Kreacher after the ministry of Magic raid.. =(

Percy, Kreacher, and Snape. I was definitely expecting Snape to be redeemed in this book as well as thinking Percy had a good chance at redemption too, but I never expected Kreacher to be redeemed.

Defintely Kreacher and Snape, and also a bit for Draco. He is just so defenceless and weak that you somehow feel sorry for him. What's more, in the end, he was supposed to be a rather good looking kid turned bald man, you got to feel sorry for the guy.

Definately Kreacher and Percy. I never doubted where Snape's loyalties lie and the Malfoy's still only did what was best for them. After seeing what Kreacher went through in the cave with Voldemort, I give him props. All he wanted was a little kindness from his master and Bellatrix and Narcissa gave it to him not Sirius. Why should he be loyal to him? Besides, I just can't hold a grudge when his line about hitting Dung again with a pot for luck was just so funny. :lol: Percy more because it was a family rift. I connect with the idea of an estranged family reuniting. It's touching to me that Percy was able to put aside his pride and they forgave him so easily. Sometimes it is hardest to admit you're wrong to the one's who know and love you. Anyone willing to own up to his mistakes like that is a true Gryffindor to me (even if he is pompous).

Dudley, Kreacher, Percy, Snape, the Malfoys, and Aberforth(who turned out to be a pretty awesome character).

I found Percy's comeback to be incredibly forced.I agree it was forced, but at the same time he did finally see the light about the Ministry and the fact that what his entire family had been saying all along was correct.

I think Dudley also redeemed himself. Dare I say he may in time grow to be better person despite his parents? :scared:

Kreacher and Snape for me too.
But also Narcissa Malfoy. She lied about Harry being dead, risking her own life just to find out if her son was still alive. She might have saved Harry's life.

ya, a couple people said this already but the name that jumps to mind for me was Narcissa Malfoy for basically defying Voldemort to help Harry, and Dobby for sacrificing himself to save Harry, if you think that he was an anoying little prat who almost killed Harry trying to save him in COS,(don't get me mistaken, I love Dobby, but his actions in COS really ****** me off, especially with Petunia's cake)

For me, Kreacher ( I lived some of his lines on the book) and Snape. Regarding Percy, I'm not shure, he came back only when there was not room for him to remain in the Ministry, may be after the scene with Fred, but I still don't like him for what he put Molly's to. He could change his mind long before. Finally, the Malfoys are still far from redemption for me, even Narcisa, since their change ocurred only because they were worried about Draco. So in Percy's and Malfoy's case, I believed that they acted in some selfish way.

Snape...well, I always saw him through the Harry filter, at least until the memory in OotP. After HBP I was sure he was not what Harry believed him to be -- yet I was one of those people who needed to see clear, black ink on white paper, that I was right.

1. Snape - I definately needed to see it in black ink on white paper. I always saw Snape through Harry's eyes. In my mind there was no room for any other view. Then in OotP I begin to think "Well maybe he isn't all that bad. He could just be misunderstood." But then he killed Dumbledore in HBP and that sealed it for him. After that I wanted to hate him. He was so hateful to Harry and then to go an kill Dumbledore...it was just easier to hate him, then to see that he was backed into a corner with no way out. After reading Snape's memories I was crying so hard. I felt so sorry for Snape. He was bound to protect the child of the woman he loved and the man that he hated. :sad:



I think I'm still a bit annoyed at Dumbledore. I was so attached to the idea of him being 100% wise, noble and good, that I'm not quite ready to give it up and realise that he also had his faults.

2. Dumbledore - Dumbledore only made my feelings for Snape worse. Dumbledore was supposed to be wise and noble and good with no flaws. Come to find out he was just as flawed as the rest of us.


3. Kreacher - All you need is love! :)


4. Dudley - Who would have thought that after all these years Dudley was capable of saying something nice to Harry?
"I don't think you're a waste of space." :wow:

Kreacher, Snape and Harry. I say Harry because at the end of book six, I wanted him to just die and get it over with, not because of anything he had done but it was just his attitude that made it like "well, Harry, if you're going to go about feeling so sorry for yourself then just go kill Voldemort and die and leave the rest of the world to be happy for once." but as Harry matured in this book he finally gave up his "poor-Harry" attitude and did something good for the sake of good and for the sake of nobility and not just because he figured no one else would get around to it. Before I started reading DH, I thought to myself, as long as Harry dies heorically I won't be that bummed, I mean the guy's got nothing to live for and all he does is mope around whinning so why not just give him a purple heart and nice memorial and let life go on, but as I read I just thought that Harry had finally grown up and faced the music and learned to laugh in the face of death, and by the time I read the chapter where he finds out he has to die, I was like "NO!! Harry don't die!! YOu deserve to live!! LIVE HARRY LIVE!!!" So I think that Harry was actually one of the biggest redemtions for me in DH.

Who HAS Redeemed Themselves
Severus Snape - I was a skeptic when some people said, "No, no, he really is good, despite killing the greatest wizard alive", but I guess I was dead wrong

Peter Pettigrew - I knew he would repay his life dept to Harry, but I thought he would lay his life in a way different than killing himself

Percy Weasley - Honesty, I expected he'd be a Death Eater!

Who DID NOT
Kreacher - Not redeemed himself. He is a house-elf, and if his master is nice, he'll be nice in return. It is his duty to wizardkind.

Xenophilius Lovegood - I felt betrayed, because I thought he was not such a coward!

Rita Skeeter - Lousy SOB... Making profit off someone's death!! Mocking Dumblydoor!

the malfoys i wanted her to show them more peacful now, but i gues she did with the trin scene so i say malfoy

Kreacher. I know that his behavior in the last books was mainly due to his mistreatment by Sirius, but IMO he definately redeemed himself. He easily forgave Harry once Harry showed him proper respect and even lead the elf attack on Voldemort. :p

Kreacher, definitely. And Snape, to some extent.

I forgot to mention.....Percy! That scene where he returns was just brilliant, I was all but cheering when I read it :)

Molly Weasley who I hadn't forgiven since OOTP for her behavior with Sirius (which I know I am the only one in the world she peeved off, but hey what can I say, I thought her nose was far too in the Harry cake when his godfather had every right to make decisions for him).

But when she killed Bella (which by the way was a huge farce, but let's go with it anyway) she took out the woman who made Sirius tumble into the drapery, and in that moment she redeemed herself in my personal eyes for her poor behavior in OOTP.

I actually loved how redemption became quite a dominant theme in DH. For me, the story of Snape's redemption was the most impressing one (besides, I'm a sucker for "redemption through love" stories), but also Kreacher and Percy have redeemed themselves in my eyes. Although I have never liked Percy, I thought it was a great scene when he joined the battle. Of the Malfoy's, I think Narcissa has been partly redeemed, Draco not so much through his actions, but the fact that Dumbledore wanted to save his soul indicates to me that there may be hope for him after all...

Yes many a person will be happy with Snape's redemption, but personally, I still think he wasn't all that great in the end. Most of his motives were selfish and, after 6 books, his actions in the 7th just didn't make me want to forgive him... Personally I would have to say Narcissa Malfoy rose above and beyond, and her actions in the forest were brilliant (great chapter that). Other than that, Kreacher, it's amazing what a little listening will do....

Well I'm just going to name the most obvious one and say Percy (other then Snape Of course)! He was simply adorable when he finally came back and his reaction to Fred's death was sooo moving!

Percy definitely redeemed himself in my eyes. Narcissa Malfoy is the only Malfoy who really redeemed herself in my opinion. Draco was cowardly as ever in the Room of Requirements and Lucius...well he doesn't strike me as a reformer.

Kreacher was redeemed but he is a house elf and could easily fall into the same type of traps that Narcissa and Bellatrix set for him. He is kind to anyone who treats him well.

Snape...I know he is good and i know he loved Lily. He is redeemed in that sense. But he is not fully redeemed in my eyes because he could have done things so differently and so much better. He never should have treated LIly the way he did and he shouldn't have treated Harry poorly either. I guess i can forgive him for being a DE since he turned spy at great personal risk but he would have seen James and Harry dead as long as Lily was safe and I don't think that shows much respect for human life at all. I also think his choice to keep his loev for Lily secret was slightly twisted as well. He is on the good side but i don't think he is a good guy.

Snape had reddemed himself long ago (for me).

Kreacher, Percy, Dudley and Gellert Grindelwald redeemed in the last book...

1. Snape - for obvious reasons. I always saw him as a jerk earlier, but now when I am re-reading the series after DH i can't help but liking him and maybe even pitying him.

2. Draco - I thought I would never say this because I hated Draco, but I cant help but thinking he redeemed himself even though he never did anything redeeming. Its more that he didnt like what was happening deep inside himself and was only doing it for his family.

3. Percy - Only Weasley that I never took a liking for, but at the end of DH he made it into my good books.

4. Kreacher - After the scenes in Grimauld Place I couldn't help thinking about what was happening to Kreacher when the trio left. Its good to know all he needed was some love. Kind of shows that everyone has some good inside them. (cept voldy)

Kreacher.

Honestly, I loved Severus from the beginning. I guess I'm a sucker for the seemingly bad guys. Therefor, no redemption needed.

Kreacher gets my number one vote. He was awesome in the end. That will show you how far a little kidness will get you. :tu:

Malfoy's not so much. In the end they were still lookong out for themselves really. I can't bring myself to think they were truely redeemed.

Wow, I'm just realizing that I really hold a grudge.

Snape is not redeemed for me.

Yes, he didn't murder Dumbledore, but his list of negatives is still really long.
He ran to Voldemort and told him about the prophecy basically setting all of this in motion. He was horrible, horrible, horrible to Harry and Hermione all throughout school. He was self serving and power hungry and frankly there isn't much he could have done to redeem himself in my eyes.

Kreacher is not fully redeemed for me either.

He set Harry up to almost be killed at the ministry. Then basically sent Sirius to his death. Yes, he's much better to Harry and even to Hermione in DH but I guess I just don't forgive as easily as others do.

Percy was redeemed for me. He was an idiot but his reappearance and apology, as well as his reaction to Fred's death made me feel for him.

How about Neville? He began as the clutzy, forgetful near-Squib in SS. In OotP, he shows he has some aptitude, but in DH he truly shines. He becomes a true leader, not a follower. He is the only one who has the talent to truly control the Room of Requirement. He is the one who takes torture and then shrugs it off. Then, while face to face with Voldemort, with a flaming hat on his head, he pulls Gryffindor's sword out and beheads Nagini! And of course, to bring it full circle, the stereotypical dunce at the beginning ends up doing what? Teaching at Hogwarts! I love it!

Most definitely Snape!! even though I believed all along that he was truly on Dumbledore's side,I still hated him! But his love for Lily was just touching and incredibly depressing since he'd never get her..
Oh and of course Kreacher;I thought he was a double-crossing toerag but it was just the way he had been treated..
And Malfoy also in some way.

Narcissa Malfoy to me, for lying about Harry.

First off, Snape, definitely. But then again, i always knew he was good. He was awesome, spying on Voldemort and all.

Next off, Kreacher. I never saw him as evil, but really flawed, but he was a lot better this book.

I was really happy that Kreacher seemed to be enjoying serving a master again, but i didn't like the centaurs after the way they treated Firenze and i was glad they welcomed him back with the herd.

Some characters like:

Snape
Narcissa
Kreacher

However, I was upset that Pettigrew didn't redeem himself. The hand killed him. He didn't have an act of bravery that I wanted to see from him so that he could redeem himself.

Kreacher and the centuars. I never believed Snape was evil...and I don't think that Narcissa would have done anything other then lie about Harry being dead...she didn't want anything to happen to Draco....and her family was already on close watch by Moldy and the other Death Eaters. One person though...that got a slight redemption in my eyes....was Lucius...I always knew he was a pansy...but, still.

Oh, and Bellatrix redeemed herself once she died.

Definitely Kreacher. Who knew that all you had to do was be a little nice to him.

Draco and Kreacher

I always knew Snape was good.

I think mostly Snape. Although i still don't think he should have treated Harry so badly all these years there was no excuse in my opinion.

Also Percy i was so happy when he saw sense.

I always felt kind of sorry for Kreacher (well actually all house elves) and when he turned 'good' it felt so good (partly because Hermione had been right all along) an i was so happy because it was like Kreacher was happier being a nicer, kinder house elf.

Kreacher, Ron and Mrs Weasley. They all annoyed me before but I loved all of them in DH :tu:

Oh, I forgot about Percy. I was so happy he turned back around!

Kreacher and Narcissa. And maybe Percy. Still not entirely sure about him yet though.

I would say Snape did, it finally made sense everything he did in the previous books and his attitude towards Harry. I was sooo sad after Harry looked into the pensieve, Snape dying :(

Percy and Kreacher, but no one else. I didn't expect them to turn out alright. Draco and his parents I suspected to turn from Voldemort, I don't think they have really done enough though to redeem themselves.

Oh and Peter Pettigrew's hand has redeemed itself, not Pettigrew himself.

Definitely Draco. Snape...yeah...maybe...tragic hero of the series, and Kreacher. But I like Draco's redemption better than Snape's. Why? Simple reason: Draco and Harry were childhood enemies. It's pretty hard to redeem yourself to your once-enemy, and that is like soo killing your pride. Snape, however, did everything for Lily, and we know he loved Lily. So I think Draco's redemption was much more pure and I really commend him. And I loved the fact that he lives :)

Dudders, he finally stood up to his parents and thanked Harry :)
Percy and Narcissa redeemed themselves in my eyes, too. And Snape didn't need to be redeemed cause I always knew he was good!

Peeves for his lulzy song at the end.

I totally forgot Dudley, of course he redeemed himself too, it was quite touching.

Not Snape..loved and trusted him from the start....
Probably Kreacher...never knew he had that side to him too

Narcissa too!!!!

Narcissa too!!!!

My points of view and feelings towards several characters definitely changed. I didn't like Snape and I still am not a fan of him although I recognize he was a very interesting & intriguing character - but now I feel a lot of sadness and pity for him. And he probably was one of the bravest character in the whole serie as Harry himself says in the Epilogue. It's incredible how his love for Lily conditionned (sp ?) his whole life. It's sad how he had to be under 'constant vigilance' as Mad-Eye would say, not betraying the fact he was a spy on Dumbledore's account. He had such a tragic life, living in fear, mourning the death of Lily his whole life - his only love - and not even being able to keep on cherisihing (sp ?) Lily through Harry which he really didn't like, obviously. And then he learnt that the purpose of his job as a spy - that is to say protecting Harry - wasn't even that meaningful since Harry was - he thought - to be sacrified. Really, poor Severus Snape, all the sadness and awful things he had to endure are heartbreaking :no:

I feel sorry also for the Malfoy. I always knew Narcissa wasn't really of them (Death Eaters I mean), she seemed to close her eyes on all they were doing rather than applauding them & following (or leading, as her sister Bellatrix). Yes, I always felt she was different. Probably because above all, she was a mother. And it's what saved her family, the fact she didn't care about power as the others, the fact she cared more about her family. They seem to have been puppets in Voldemort's hands and that's very sad. They paid a heavy price.

I liked Kreacher in this book. I loved how he fought during the battle, leading all the House Elves. I love how he was faithful to Regulus, even all those years after. Such an allegiance is so powerful. Even though he still was his vicious and mean self at times, he definitely redeemed itself in my eyes. I even felt some affection for him, not as much as I felt for Dobby, but I did really like him.

I was really interested by the posts of persons quoting Percy. What he did was great, coming back to his family, eventually realizing his mistakes. But personally I don't feel like he really redeemed himself. In the facts yes he probably did, but I don't like the way it happened, all in a rush. That lacked of credibility for me. I wish it had happened differently and not in the middle of the fight, but way before. Then, I would have felt he really had redeemed himself for me. But yes, I am glad he eventually came back to his good sense ! :p

As for Dudley, the scene was definitely cute in my opinion. He sounded so different, so much more mature. I loved it. Yeah I definitely like him better now !

Dudley – Who would have expected after all these years of bullying, he actually didn’t see Harry as a waste of space and knew gratitude. This is definitely one book where all the kids have finally matured – even the unpleasant ones :tu: (well, maybe except Malfroy :no:).


Kreacher – I never know his loyalty to Regular is rooted so deeply. He is just so lovable with his ‘just for luck’ excuse and to think I find him disgusting previously and thought that he will betray Harry when the latter returned to Grimmauld Place.


And to add a note on Snape, no, Snape never redeemed himself in my eyes… doesn’t need to. I always believe he’s good ever since Quirrel said that Snape has been using a countercurse to save Harry during the Quidditch match in the first book and I still believed so after he killed Dumbledore. However, gotta admit that my faith in him starts to waver when Lupin said that George’s ‘saintness’ was due to Snape’s curse. I am so glad that was an accident and he turned out to be a man of promise after all. :clap:

I thought Percy's redemption was the best. It was wonderfull that he finally realized his mistakes, realized that the MoM wasn't as utopian as he blindly believed it was. I thought the timing of his return was perfect too-It gave everyone more courage (I think).

Kreacher's redemption I thought was a little too easy. I thought it reallly weird and out of character- but then again, we had never seen any Kreacher besides the grumpy, hostile, and racist one!

Rufus Scrimgeour, he showed that he really cared what happened to Harry, but he approached the matter badly.

Dudley who showed he is capable of love.

I totally forgot Dudley, of course he redeemed himself too, it was quite touching.

I did too! He did redeem himself. Poor old Dudders. He actually did have a heart.

How about Lord Voldemort? :D

Technically he killed the most evil wizard in history. True it was by accident but he still did it :D

Seriously Kreacher, Dudley, Snape, and maybe Narcissa redeemed themselves. I hope I`m not forgetting anyone

Dudley – Who would have expected after all these years of bullying, he actually didn’t see Harry as a waste of space and knew gratitude. This is definitely one book where all the kids have finally matured – even the unpleasant ones :tu: (well, maybe except Malfroy :no:).


I completely forgot about Dudley! Bless him for making Harry a cup of tea. :D But seriously, yes, I was glad Dudley could see the error of his ways and almost thank Harry for saving his life.

I completely forgot about Dudley! Bless him for making Harry a cup of tea. :D But seriously, yes, I was glad Dudley could see the error of his ways and almost thank Harry for saving his life.

Oh wow I forgot about Dudley too! He did almost redeem himself, but he will grow up and be a better person than his parents at least.

SNAPE!!! omg I hated that man, but I think now that we've seen his memories, etc., he's definately redeemed himself.

Also, Kreacher. Cause he turned out to be more than a little awesome.

Narcissa--THiS was the ice queen that Harry almost picked a fight with in HBP? Yes, I read Spinner's End, but Narcissa didn't have to turn on Voldemort and help Harry, and she did.

For me, the character who redeemed himself most was Percy. Maybe not totally by the end of DH, but he was definitely on his way.

Kreacher and Snape, I didn't like them at all in the previous books but in DH they both turned out to be nice:)

Snape , Percy and the Malfoys (any) were hated more at the end then when we first meet them. Kreacher is possible, but his miraculous turnabout was just cheesy. Dumbledore had been redeemed earlier in the series (yes I did not like him after the first couple of books). That leaves Dudley, who would have thunk it.

Kreacher and of course snape. I hated keacher for what he did to sirius but he great in DH. Snape, well i wanted him to be on the good side, but i just couldnt see him being ater HBP, but it turned out he was!!!! I was so glad, and he cared for harry all along. yay.

Percy because he really saw the wrong of his ways and was forgiven by his family. The way he clung for Fred's body said a lot.

Percy because he really saw the wrong of his ways and was forgiven by his family. The way he clung for Fred's body said a lot.I think also because he came back and immediately admitted what he'd done wrong. Percy didn't try to make excuses or justifications - he knew what he'd done and he wanted to make up for it.

I think also because he came back and immediately admitted what he'd done wrong. Percy didn't try to make excuses or justifications - he knew what he'd done and he wanted to make up for it.

Yeah, that's what I meant. But you said it in so much more detail. :love:

Yeah, that's what I meant. But you said it in so much more detail. :lol:
I also like that he kept his character. He definitely redeemed himself and started fighting for the right side, and rejoined his family, but I was happy to see in the epilogue that he was still his incredibly annoying self.

Snape's probably the one who surprises me most because he definitely did NOT redeem himself to me, despite the fact that I was positive he would before the book. I dislike his character more now than I ever have before...

Anyways, for people who did redeem themselves to me:
-Kreacher
-Scrimgeour
-Percy
-Dumbledore (it's not that I didn't like him, it's just that his history made me like him so much more in understanding some of the choices he made in terms of Harry that I didn't completely agree with)
-DUDLEY! FTW! My gosh I loved his (puny) part in DH! :D
-Petunia
-Narcissa (and Draco, but he didn't really have to redeem himself to me XD)

Yup, long list XD

Charcters that redeemed themselves:

SNAPE - Honestly, I've been a hardcore believer that Snape was good from the very first book (a Lily/Snape shipper since OtoP). I invested a lot of hope in him, and I was partially convinced by a really random piece of information...which was, during an interview, or a maybe info on her site, I came across the fact one of JKR's favorite books was Wuthering Heights (Snape reminded me so much of Healthcliff!) BUT then Deathly Hallows made me doubt myself! First the killing of a fellow school teacher, then George's ear, then all those terrible things that happened at Hogwarts. JKR almost made me very unhappy! Of course, JKR style, all was revealed at the very end.

Kreacher - I have to admit, I pretty much hated him and partially blamed him for misleading Harry to the Department of Mysteries and thus Sirius's death in OotP. But his loyality to his old master Regulus's wishes was really sweet and an unexpected twist that I liked.

The Malfoy Family - I began to see Narcissa differently in HBP, but DH really seemed to redeem Draco and Lucius for me. They set themselves apart in this book from the other Death Eaters. Although I don't think they proved that they are 'good' people, they definetly made me feel as though they weren't 'bad'. Instead of being ruthless killers, they turned out to be just a family caught up in war.

Dudley - I was just as shocked as Harry at his gratitude toward him. But I was quite disappointed when Petunia, Lily's own sister, didn't have anything significant to say to Harry in their goodbye's. Petunia and Vernon = not redeemed in my book.

Dudley - I was just as shocked as Harry at his gratitude toward him. But I was quite disappointed when Petunia, Lily's own sister, didn't have anything significant to say to Harry in their goodbye's. Petunia and Vernon = not redeemed in my book.

Yeah, I was disappointed in that too... wished Petunia had said something. But I still feel she was redeemed to me because of Snape's recollections of her, and being able to see exactly how far her jealousy went. I was honestly surprised to find out she had written to Dumbledore to ask to go to Hogwarts. Guess for me the redemption lies in her innocence as a child being set apart from a talent of her sister's because of genetics.

Vernon... Vernon gets know redemption from me whatsoever. He was always horrible to Harry and he couldn't wait to see the last of him. All 'cause of his own prejudice.

i can't believe i forgot percy! he totally redeemed himself! i was SO happy when he showed up, you would not believe it. the first time i read it i wanted to jump up and down, but it was 4 in the morning and i was at my aunt's house.

Oh, not many. I still hate Snape. I always knew he'd be working for the Order, but he's still a right foul *******. Kreacher... eh. I'm still not quite sure what I think of him. I always knew Percy would come back...

Lucius! He's redeemed himself (somewhat) in my eyes. We were discussing whether or not he loved Draco at one of my HP meetings, and I tended to be on the side that he didn't. Boy, was I wrong!

Dudley and Petunia: Sure, I guess. I honestly don't really care about them either way.

Draco: I dunno. I was right about him. I said that he wouldn't really help Harry, but he'd stay with Voldemort because he doesn't have a choice. He still would be far from being a good DE, though. So he's how I expected. Not exactly redeemed.

You know, Tonks sort of fits it for me. I liked her in OotP, but hated her in HBP. She was all whiny over a boy not dating her to the point where she was losing her powers! That just disgusted me. But she was more fun again in this book.

Oh, and Remus! Not that I ever hated Remus! He's my favorite character! But I'm just glad he wasn't happy with Tonks. I know it sounds horrible, and it is because I feel this way for selfish reasons. It saves me from having to be very stubborn and feel like a jerk, or giving up and wanting Remus to be happy. I ship Remus and someone else, so I was not happy when he got together with Tonks. And if he'd been happy with her, I'd feel guilty and be forced to think, "Well, at least he's happy." But he wasn't happy. The only time he ever seemed happy about the relationship was about the baby. And everyone has to love their children no matter who the parents. So I was spared and I can still ship Remus with someone else. And he's redeemed by the fact that he didn't fall for the cheap younger girl.

Dudley, almost entirely. Kreacher, ditto. Percy....it's hard not to love the moment when he tumbles into the Room of Requirement. And oh yes, Snape.

In my eyes, Dumbledore has completely redeemed himself - as a person, wizard and a man, with all his flaws and brilliance. I am glad he didn't turn out to be an old fool, trusting Snape only because he deserved 'a second chance'. Thank God for that.

Speaking of Snape, he certainly redeemed himself as well, there's not doubt about that. Probably everyone feels that way, because that IS the point of this book.

PERCY, MY DARLING!! I was waiting for that moment throughout the whole book! That's the part I cried the hardest, I swear...

Kreacher, indeed! I was so happy to see he wasn't such a monster after all.

Oh and Dudley. Man, I was so happy to see his transfiguration into a being with feeeeelings.

Then, I'd say Narcissa Malfoy... Because she's proved that after all, the family means the most to her. Who cares about power and Voldemort's orders when she's got a son to think about?

About Draco, I think he redeemed himself in HBP and then went kind of flat in DH.

Snape! He is my hero after all :) . I absolutely hated him for 6 books and 500 or so pages but then I saw the true Snape.

Kreacher. I never expected him to be a 'good' type. I feel good for Kreacher, because all he needed was love.

Percy. I pretty much saw this one but it is good that he has come back to his family and admitted he was wrong in the past.

Also, Neville has become a total hero.

There were so many people...

Definately Snape (because I somewhat doubted his loyalties at times but now I feel even more sorry for him).
Kreacher (Hermione was right! A little kindness goes a long way!)
Percy, Dudley, and all the Malfoys (All though, I always loved Draco and Narcissa! They were never evil!)

Percy. I actually hated him for what he had done to his family, and before DH I was hoping he'd die a gruesome death - maybe alongside Scrimgeour and Umbridge. So I was surprised at how happy I was when he turned up; it was brilliantly done.

I love Kreacher now, though I don't think he could ever be dubbed "Good" or "evil" because, like Hermione said, he served those who were nice to him, regardless of their goodness or evilness, which meant he did some pretty horrible things and inherited prejudices (Mudbloods, etc), and yet as soon as good people were nice to him, he served them faithfully, undoing evil he had contributed to.

Narcissa, Draco and, to a certain extent, Lucius. Narcissa, because she was never really all that comfortable with the Dark Lord's methods (The first chapter demonstrates that). Draco, because he was clearly just raised wrongly, but was good at heart. I loved the way he acknowledged Harry, Ginny, Ron and Hermione in *** epilogue.

Dudley: In his own way, he said sorry to Harry for everything that he has done to him in the past.
Snape: Before I read book 7 I though Snape was the bad guy. After reading book 7, I was crying after Harry saw Snape's memory. It was so sad.
Kreacher: He helped Harry, Ron and Hermione alot in this book.

Snape did, Kreacher did more than in my wildest dreams, when percy starts making jokes in the middle of battle is one of my favourite parts of the book. After that it becomes a bit less clean cut. Draco is scared, but he still tries to capture Harry doesn't he? For me, he isn't fully forgiven, and definitely not as much as his parents, as they showed that all they cared about was their son in the enbd, drawing huge contrasts with bellatrix, who claims that she would willingly give her children to the dark lord. i think with them its a case similar to the one in the OoTP, where Harry is told that Umbridge is evil but not a death eater. So the malfoys as a whole aren't evil, but they sure as hell aren't nice people either. So not forgiven, but tolerated nonetheless. In my eyes. Additionally, Rowling seems to prize love so highly in her books, so to see the love they have for their child is something that JK probably felt was pretty significant

Percy - I was pretty sure he would turn back, but I didn't expect to "forgive" him. After reading DH though, I was pretty satisfied the way he returned to fight, and it was mostly his reaction to Fred's death that "got" me.

Kreacher - How cute was he? :D I really enjoyed all the scenes with him - he was so helpful and loyal. If only Sirius had treated him nicely...

Dudley - He actually shocked me a whole lot. I was expecting more for his mother to redeem herself, but I was glad to see Big D leave his bullying years behind.

Draco and Snape - Well, my views of them didn't change because I always believed both of them were "good" as in the sense they weren't total DEs.

I expected more from Peter Pettigrew though..

I expected more from Peter Pettigrew though..

True... I completely forgot about him actually xD;; But yeah, him, like Draco, I was expecting to do something directly helping Harry over Voldemort, rather than, in Peter's case, not purposefully, consciously, helping him. But admittedly, Voldemort's words to Peter when he gives him his hand now seem like a billboard exclaiming Peter's future xD Never let his loyalty waver again... Pfft. Wormtail should have listened XD

Snape- I've always hated Snape always but it got even worse in Deathly Hallows! He was so evil to me, I was like "Oh you evil little greasy-haired git!" The whole time. Then "The Prince's Tale" I was sobbing my heart out with guilt. Snape was good this whole time, I felt so horrible accusing him of being an evil, backstabbing, two-faced git. But now he is one of my favorite characters he redeemed himself very well thanks to his love for Lily.

A lot of characters actually redeemed themselves in my eyes throughout the Deathly Hallows. Here are the characters and why I found them redeemed:


Kreacher-I always used to dislike that house elf very much, but he changed in DH. He became friendlier, and got along with Harry, and even treated Hermione, who wasn't a pureblood with respect. And also he helped out at the final battle at Hogwarts against Voldemort which was amazing
Percy- I always hoped that Percy would come back to his family, and when he did I was very happy. The Weasleys are a very tight knit family, and I am glad that Percy and hs family are on good terms again
Snape- I always thought he was good, and DH just confirmed that for me. His story was heartbreaking and also redeemed him in my eyes. Although a lot of his good deeds came out of his love for Lily Evans Potter, it still showed that Snape had a great heart, and that he thought the world of somebody, and I believe he cared for Dumbledore as well.
Narcissa-I always thought she was foul and a snob. But in HBP, and throughout DH I found her to be very concerned about her family, including her husband and her son, whom she loves very much. Also, she could have gotten killed for lying to Voldemort that Harry Potter was dead, but she did, so that she could see her son again
Ginny- I enjoyed her character a lot more in book 7, I thought it resembled more the way her character was in OOtP, while she still had a strong personality, she was very accepting of Harry plans, and also did her part in the war as well

The Malfoys--mainly Draco and Narcissa, but Lucius was OK as well. Granted, they were acting in their own self-interests and are still raciest (er... bloodiest? Yum...), but they their self-interests were about their love for one another.

Kreature and Dobby--Before this book, I found House-Elves in general to be annoying. It was really nice to see Kreature get some character development, and to see them both become truly heroic. ("Perhaps one more, Master Harry, for luck?")

Dudley and Petunia--I really like the chapter in which they all say goodbye. Both of them have come a long way as characters since the first book. ("Harry had to suppress the urge to threaten him with magic" :lol: )

Kreacher! He was so horrible in the last two books, and in this one it almost made me cry when he was making that steak and kidney pudding and they couldn't come back to Grimmauld Place :(

Kreacher for me too :D The thought of him sitting there with only that steak and kidney pie for company... *sniff* And as for turning pint sized warrior - awesome!

Percy! What a redemption :D His return was one of my favourite moments in the book.

And Dudley ... aw. Just aw. Very sweet, very unexpected.

The Malfoys ... meh. Other than Naricssa, who showed a depth of care for her son I didn't think she possessed, I didn't think that they particularly deserved redemption. Maybe I'm just too hard-hearted...

Snape didn't redeem himself for me ... he didn't have to ;)

Kreacher: I always knew he had some good in him and I am glad we saw it.

Dudley: I was really happy on what he said to Harry. But what ever happend to the Dursleys?

Percy: I am happy that he returned to his family. But it was qite sad that he saw Fred die.

Dumbledore: Since GoF, I started getting really annoyed by Dumbledore and on how he's acting. He didn't have enough faith in Harry and that was why I got annoyed by him. In DH, I got mad Dumbledore, and started questioning him but after reading King's Cross chapter, I wasn't mad at him or anything like that. I know it's a bit weird.

kreacher definately. he changed a lot, his past was tragic.
also percy, finally he realised what a prat he was being!!!! his reaction to fred's death was so hearbreaking.
dudley: that was terrifying :lol: i realy didn't expect it, i was like ''huh?'' but i am glad that he acted like that. we did get a reaction from the dementor attack, it was nice to see him so warm towards harry, how he was so almost terrified that harry wasn't coming with them.
the malfoys- a bit. well, they weren't really on a side, but seeing the malfoys suffer was a bit mean, but then i was glad that something went wrong for them. hey finaly realised their yalies almost.

For me it has to be Snape and kreacher but Snape more than Kreacher

For me, it's Snape.
I'm not gunna lie,
I still think he's a total a** hole for the way he treated Harry.
But after finding out the whole story,
It sort of made me feel bad for him a little.
It's kind of a love-hate kinda feeling now,
Rather than just full-on hate like it used to be.
Xp
At least there was some improvement. :]

I always knew that there was something going on with Snape... he was a misunderstood character...

but the one who really redeemed themselves for me was NArcissa, because she in a way saved harry's life.

Kreacher for me too. I did not like him at all in the previous books. I didn't just not like his character but I found him very annoying to actually read about. I loved him in Deathly Hallows and will probably change my feelings about him when I reread OOTP and HBP.

Other characters like Snape and Draco I knew were going to be redeemed so there was never any real change in my opinion for them to redeem themselves.

Cheers :tu:

Dudley: I was really happy on what he said to Harry. But what ever happend to the Dursleys?

I really want to hear the Adventures of Vernon, Petunia, Dudley, Daedalus, and Hestia. That sounds really funny to me. :)

It was Snape all the way. He cared for Harry. So sweet!
And Draco. The fact that he couldn't kill Dumbledore. I think Draco would be good if it wasn't for his father. And the fact that Voldy was gonna kill him if he didn't do what he said.:whistle:

For me, it's Snape.
I'm not gunna lie,
I still think he's a total a** hole for the way he treated Harry.
But after finding out the whole story,
It sort of made me feel bad for him a little.
It's kind of a love-hate kinda feeling now,
Rather than just full-on hate like it used to be.
Xp
At least there was some improvement. :]

I totally agree..besides the fact i DONT think he is an a**hole.. Snape really had a hard life and he never got to have a happy ending like some others..

Well, for me it was Snape first of all, I just couldn't believe it :wow:
Also Kreacher, it was so sweet when he stormed out of the castle shouting to defend his Master, that was wonderful... I also felt bad for him when he had that prepared dinner sitting in the table waiting for the trio when they couldn't return after retrieving the locke from Umbridge :no:
Also, I think Percy redeemed himself, although he took quite a while, and I felt really sad for him when Fred died, I sor of think he felt rather responsible because he didn't spend as much time with his family as he should.
And last, maybe a little surprising, but Narcissa Malfoy redeemed herself when she told Voldemort Harry was dead after the first time he "killed" him; Harry saving Malfoy in the RoR saved him afterwards through Malfoy's mom, I loved that example of Karma :tu:

:sad: I would have to say Snape. I had alot of anger towards him all the way to the end and then I felt like a ***** for never giving him a chance. My mother was always saying " he is a good man and I have faith in him". She was right.

Snape all the way!! He's the big hero now for me. Kreacher has redeemed in my eyes, too. Dudley and Draco so and so (i expected Draco to turn definitely to Harry's side); Narcissa so and so too, but i have to admit she saved Harry, although she did it for her convenience.

Obviously Snape. I had been on the sidelines for a long while wondering if he was good or bad and 550 pages into the book I was wondering when is the revelation of his true loyalties going to come out...and when it did...I was relieved. Everything that had come to pass was now okay just because Snape was a truly reformed man.

Kreacher is another character I was absolutely trilled to see a change with. The fact that he not only had come to fight in Harry's honor but lead the other house elves with him in the battle was a delightful moment...the kind that makes you laugh and cry at the same time.

Narcissa Malfoy. Now even though I dont hate her this was a bit of let down...I know that sounds kinda wierd. I was hoping DRACO would be reformed completely. But instead it was his mother who surprised me. I like that it was her who was willing to take any risk, do anything, even help spare Harry to save her son. She is a mother first and that is what I like about her and it is what I like knowing about her even if nothing else is good about the woman.

This person has probably been used a lot, but Snape. I always thought, "Oh, what an evil, slimy haired git." But now that I think about it, Snape lived a harsh life, loving Lily and her marrying the man he loathes. I always thought he was a traitor to Dumbledore, but he was a traitor to Voldemort.

Another person would have to be Narcissa. You would think she'd do anything to please the Dark Lord, but she decides to save her son and Harry (sort of... in a way) instead. I thought she slightly redeemed herself for that.

Kreacher really redeemed himself in my eyes for a lot of reasons. I liked how he tried so hard to destroy Regulus's locket and even kept it in his cupboard along with the other treasures. I liked how his attitude changed to Harry and how much nicer he became, even to Hermione!

Snape also redeemed himself in my eyes. I liked getting to know his back-story and why he did what he did. I don't think he was perfect, none of the characters are, but I did respect him a lot more for all that he did to keep Lily's son alive.

The Malfoy family, especially Narcissa, really redeemed themselves. I loved how she tried so hard to keep Draco alive and her family together. I like how Draco wasn't able to kill anyone. Lucius Malfoy always seemed like a pretty harsh father so it was nice to see how much he cared for Draco. My favorite scene of them was at the end of the battle, when Narcissa and Lucius were running around screaming for Draco.

I am not too sure about the Malfoy's redeeming themselves, maybe Narcissa as she did risk her life for her son but not Lucius or Draco. The only redeeming quality that I can see in Draco throughout the 7 books is that he wasn't the cold blooded murderer his father most probably was but that's not really saying much as he did try (and almost succeeded) twice. In fact he really does come across very cowardly in DH.

I am not too sure about the Malfoy's redeeming themselves, maybe Narcissa as she did risk her life for her son but not Lucius or Draco. The only redeeming quality that I can see in Draco throughout the 7 books is that he wasn't the cold blooded murderer his father most probably was but that's not really saying much as he did try (and almost succeeded) twice. In fact he really does come across very cowardly in DH.
I think Draco redeemed himself more than Narcissa actually. With Narcissa, the problem was never that she didn't care about her son, the problem was that she cared about her family at the expense of everyone else. So in that sense, she never redeemed herself as all she did was for Draco. She was neutral during the war and only stopped supporting Voldemort because he threatened Draco. Draco on the other hand, was never a killer, as Dumbledore said. He was raised by a family who expected him to be one and to enjoy the dark arts but that was never his personality. He was a bit nasty as a child and a bully but that was all. His nod to Harry in the Epilogue shows that he is now over their rivalry, IMO.

I think Draco redeemed himself more than Narcissa actually. With Narcissa, the problem was never that she didn't care about her son, the problem was that she cared about her family at the expense of everyone else. So in that sense, she never redeemed herself as all she did was for Draco. She was neutral during the war and only stopped supporting Voldemort because he threatened Draco. Draco on the other hand, was never a killer, as Dumbledore said. He was raised by a family who expected him to be one and to enjoy the dark arts but that was never his personality. He was a bit nasty as a child and a bully but that was all. His nod to Harry in the Epilogue shows that he is now over their rivalry, IMO.

In a sense you're right about Narcissa but the same logic could be applied to all 3 Malfoys, even Draco. I see no evidence which suggests that Draco's family expected him to a be a killer, in fact all evidence suggests otherwise. Narcissa did not like the mission Draco was entrusted with. We don't know what Lucius thought but I can't imagine him being pleased either. They brought him up with the beliefs they themselves were brought up with but to say they wanted him to be a murderer is just not true.

Another thing that stands out is Draco initially seemed proud and happy to be given the responsibility. He seemed to think it was an honour. It was only when he was failing miserably that he became a wimpy coward. And like I said he might not be a cold blooded murderer but that simply doesn't excuse the fact they he nearly killed 2 students at Hogwarts, used unforgivables and tried to crucio Harry.

Even in DH he is completely out for himself. He could not have cared less if Harry lived or died as long as he and his family were safe and that goes for both Narcissa and Lucius. We see both of them being very exited when they realise they got Harry in Malfoy Manor.

What I am saying is all 3 acted in a very Slytherin way but it was Narcissa who risked the most which saved Harry's life. Of course if Harry dying meant Draco safety then she would've happily sacrificed Harry.

I think only Draco. I have the same opinion about all the other characters that I had before reading the seventh book. (Rather, in some cases it even got worse and not only about bad characters.)


Molly Weasley who I hadn't forgiven since OOTP for her behavior with Sirius (which I know I am the only one in the world she peeved off, but hey what can I say, I thought her nose was far too in the Harry cake when his godfather had every right to make decisions for him).

But when she killed Bella (which by the way was a huge farce, but let's go with it anyway) she took out the woman who made Sirius tumble into the drapery, and in that moment she redeemed herself in my personal eyes for her poor behavior in OOTP.

I hadn’t thought of that! Good point. Although I don’t think Molly has killed Bellatrix also to avenge Sirius, but only to protect Ginny.

I don't think that Draco redeemed himself; right up until the end he was desperately trying to protect his family the wrong way by harming others. Granted, Draco had no idea that his mother essentially made a deal with Harry in the forest as it would allow her a chance to save Draco, or that Harry had given himself up to die at Voldemort's hand. Perhaps his views changed after learning this as I'm guessing Narcissa may have shared that with him so Draco would understand how much she loved him. Regardless, I think Draco's bullying and phony bravado was always an attempt to live up to his father's expectations, and in HBP onward just desparation to keep himself and his family safe. So I don't think Draco redeemed himself at all by the end of the series, but possibly came to terms with reality as he got older.

I think the only character that truly redeemed themselves was Percy. Percy was blinded by ambition; but when confronted with enough evidence that he was on the wrong side he re-evaluated the choices he had made, and devised a strategy to get out at the first opportunity. He actually recognized his mistakes, owned them and righted himself.

I have trouble saying that Snape has fully redeemed himself. I don't know, I know he was, overall, a good guy the whole time, but that doesn't change the fact that he was rather mean to his students (bar the Slytherins). I think they down play this a bit in the movies, so when I did read the books I was really surprised by how much worse he was in the books.

I think only 2 characters fully redeemed themselves.

Percy is one of them. I think he knew he was in the wrong for some time but as soon as he realised there was going to be war he came back. Made no excuses for his behaviour and issues a very good apology and fights like the Gryffindor he is.

Kreacher. I was surprised by this one. Not only did he improve his behavior tenfold but he stopped using the foul words, becomes loyal to Harry and leads the house elves in the battle. I did not expect that from a house elf.

You could also include Regulus Black I suppose. He changed his views and died trying to bring down Voldemort.

Snape I don't think fully redeemed himself. A part of it maybe down to the fact that I never hated Snape's character but rather found it quite interesting and fascinating even after he killed Dumbledore. The fact that he was on the good side and risked his life on a daily basis does not really excuse his behaviour to his students as RikuStark said.

Draco is perhaps the only character to come out worse in my opinion. He has many chances throughout the last 2 books to redeem himself but every single time he makes the wrong choice. He has no conviction either way and behaved like a real coward. Even Crabbe showed more conviction than Draco did.

I guess for me the character would be Dobby. I did not hate him (as in think he was evil and wish he would die) but I hated to read about him. I found him quite annoying.

Not after DH. He was great, when he rescued Harry and his friends from Malfoy Manor, and was killed by Bella... :sad:

Snape. I couldn't stand him until the Prince's Tale. And the way he was killed, so cold-hearted by Voldermort.

There are two characters that I find redeemed themselves in my eyes. Snape (as everyone says) because I thought he was just a cruel and heartless person from the way he treated all the houses except his own, until as said above, in the Prince's Tale. When I read the Prince's Tale, I realized that Snape isn't as cruel as he seems, and was totally misunderstood.
And Percy. I didn't think he was going to go back to his family in the 7th book, but when he showed up for the battle, I had smiled and actually said out loud "Go Percy". Yes, he had completely abandoned his family, but in the end he came back, and fought on the same side as his family.

Regulus,Snape and kreacher.

I wouldn't really put the dursley's and Malfoy's in the redemption catagory. I doubt the Malfoy's changed that much from book 1 to book 7. Just because you're quite as evil as I first thought doesn't mean you still aren't. they were mostly saving their own backsides.

The Dursley's are slightly more redeeming, since they could have tossed harry out often, but still treated him badly.

Definitely Narcissa..she saved Harrys life in the forbidden forest.

That's probably one of the few redeemable things about her, though. Narcissa still supported Lucius and Death Eaters. She's the one who went to Snape and got him in the Unbreakable Vow. She only cares for Draco no one else. I still hated that confrontation she had with Harry regarding Sirius in Half Blood Prince after Draco insulted Hermione. She saved Harry in the end only because of Draco. She does redeem herself but its not all that.

Snape, Kreacher, Narcissa (however not the rest of her family), and Percy.

Snape, because he proved to be a great person, who risked his life everyday, and loved Harry's mom ever since he met her.

Kreacher, because he got a lot nicer to the trio, started treating them well, and fought in the battle of Hogwarts.

Narcissa, because she save Harry's life, and proved that her one motive was to save her son, like any good parent (particularly mother) should too.

Percy, becuase he admitted he was stupid, and blind and fought with his family. He also put the last smile Fred would ever have on his face.

There was actually one character who I had always loved, until the seventh book: and that was Dumbledore. I felt like he was setting Harry up, he wasn't honest, and he didn't help Harry enough.

Snape, because he proved to be a great person, who risked his life everyday, and loved Harry's mom ever since he met her.
Personally, I don't think Snape redeemed himself. Courage aside, he remained bitter and negative; he hated Harry for no discernible reason -- whether it was that he lived and Lily didn't, or that Harry resembled James, it's not the mark of a redeemed character.

Narcissa, because she save Harry's life, and proved that her one motive was to save her son, like any good parent (particularly mother) should too.
I'm not sure we can credit Narcissa with saving Harry's life, because if Draco hadn't still been alive I think she would have betrayed Harry. I think no one can question that Narcissa loved Draco and was protective of him from the beginning; but she had no concern at all for Harry, and remained a supporter of DE's and Lucius's agenda. So in my view, I don't think Narcissa redeemed herself.

Personally, I don't think Snape redeemed himself. Courage aside, he remained bitter and negative; he hated Harry for no discernible reason -- whether it was that he lived and Lily didn't, or that Harry resembled James, it's not the mark of a redeemed character.



Agree with this. Throughout the books he was always on the good side so him turning out to be on the good side in the end was no redemption. Redemption in Snape's case would've been having some kind of reason that could justify his behavior against Harry and the Gryffindor's in general and there's none other than extreme bitterness on his part. And while I like Snape's character, it's hard to feel sorry or sympathize with him as everything wrong in his life was of his own doing.

Dudley redeemed himself in my eyes. He actually kind of stood up for Harry, and admitted that he was thankful for Harry saving his life. I was disappointed that there wasn't anything between Petunia and Harry, even just a word between them more than 'good-bye.' I never cared for Vernon, and I knew even in the first book that they would always each other. Petunia was Lily's sister though. She did love Lily at one time, and even if she never wanted the magic or Harry in her home, he was her nephew. She probably knew what he was going out to do. However, I guess resentment and jealousy never go away for some people.

A lot of people think Wormtail redeemed himself, but I still don't. Harry had to remind him that they had a wizards bond. If Harry hadn't reminded him, even if there was regret there he would have killed Ron and Harry anyway. He was still just a coward in the end.

Snape did as well, but I still don't agree with Harry naming his son after him. I can understand Albus, even if that's an odd name but it's understandable. He was a mentor to Harry.

Kreacher for sure.