Fairygdmther
August 14th, 2007, 1:41 am
As fascinating a world a Jo has created, it seems like the wizard world is a scarier place to live in. There are magical creatures, terrible and powerful spells, dementors, etc. What do you think?
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Muggle world or wizard world - which is scarier?Fairygdmther August 14th, 2007, 1:41 am As fascinating a world a Jo has created, it seems like the wizard world is a scarier place to live in. There are magical creatures, terrible and powerful spells, dementors, etc. What do you think? FGM BelleSnowyOwl August 14th, 2007, 3:06 am Well, I'm sure many people in the wizarding world would find having to do chores by hand scarier than being attacked by a dragon. ;) But yes, Jo’s world does seem quite frightening at times. It’s almost as though you have to work harder to keep yourself safe in times of war, because there are so many ways to attack. EBJ23 August 14th, 2007, 3:18 am I think that the wizard world is definently scarier. In the magic world, almost anything can happen and that unpredictability can be scary. DCON79 August 14th, 2007, 3:30 am I don't know. In our world people can go on a shooting spree and kill innocent students for no reason. We've never seen the equivalent of a muggle school shooting at Hogwarts, although its possible it has happened. Not to mention all the other sick stuff people do to each other in our world, its pretty scarry. BelleSnowyOwl August 14th, 2007, 3:33 am Not to mention all the other sick stuff people do to each other in our world, its pretty scarry. Well, look at the death eaters - they enjoyed killing and torturing people. DCON79 August 14th, 2007, 3:40 am Well, look at the death eaters - they enjoyed killing and torturing people. Exactly, we've got the equivalent of Death Eaters walking around all over the place. Racists and serial killers and worse. Plus all of the dictators that have caused the deaths of millions of people, like Voldemort. I don't mean to be Debbie Downer but the muggle world needs a little more credit for some of the stuff that happens in it. DobbyFTW August 14th, 2007, 3:40 am yea the wizard world is scary in some spots but I think that the muggle world (aka our world today) is the scariest thing ever. stunnedtina August 14th, 2007, 3:44 am I don't know, you could argue either way on this one. Me, I see our world as far more frightening than the wizarding world that JK Rowling created. Yes there are frightening things that happen in the wizarding world but it seems that death and the distruction doesn't happen as it does here in our world as often. I mean mass murder...we've heard of 2 reigns of power of Voldemort's and the mass killing thereof. We've heard of Grendewald...don't know the death toll there or what terrible things that he did. Aside from those we I wonder if there are othe mass murder type situations. I mean of course I'm sure that there are or have been in history on the magic world but I wonder if it's an equalvalent of our mass murders that have taken place in the last 200 years in our world. And you can even go further back than that. I don't know...I'd say our world is more frightening by a conciderable amount. harryismyhero17 August 14th, 2007, 3:48 am well in reality both worlds are extreamly the same we just have different names for everything. For example: Voldemort in a way was just like an evil dictator...just like Hitler. Death Eaters are just like serial killers. in my opinion Jo has basically taken things from our world and put them into hers under a different name- kind of like an alias. Some people may fear these things more in her world because they have been given a title which may give them power and they might therefore seem more threatening and scary. there are many deranged people who kill for fun in the 'muggle world', but we don't have a special title for them. they are scary but they could be scarier if we walked around calling them 'death eaters'. i don't know if this will make sense to anyone. let me know if it does though :) HPGramp August 14th, 2007, 6:44 am The magical world does not have prime time network television so it is obvious that the muggle world is the scariest. irishmonkey August 14th, 2007, 7:41 am in my opinion, they are both equally scary. EllieSnowmantle August 14th, 2007, 11:01 am well in reality both worlds are extreamly the same we just have different names for everything. For example: Voldemort in a way was just like an evil dictator...just like Hitler. Death Eaters are just like serial killers. in my opinion Jo has basically taken things from our world and put them into hers under a different name- kind of like an alias. Some people may fear these things more in her world because they have been given a title which may give them power and they might therefore seem more threatening and scary. there are many deranged people who kill for fun in the 'muggle world', but we don't have a special title for them. they are scary but they could be scarier if we walked around calling them 'death eaters'. i don't know if this will make sense to anyone. let me know if it does though :) Yeah I understand what you mean that the wizarding world does appear scarier especially because of the labels given to different sets of people. In the muggle world because there are so many different types of "baddies" no-one's entirely sure what to name them, and they're scattered around, everywhere, everyday a crime is commited but you don't feel immensly scared because you didn't know of their status beforehand. At first I would've said the wizarding world was more dangerous because all sorts of spells can do things to you - but there are muggle weaponary that exist too... * Stupefy ( Muggle Tranquiliser dart) eh... * Avada Kedavra (Gunshot straight to heart, or head - no chance of survival) *Sectumsempra (Dagger/Knife) *These are a few examples.... All sorts of muggle things are sorta changed around somehow to suit magic life, like with spells and methods of attack. Muggles and Wizards/Witches are all humans, just with their own methods of destruction. Iqen August 14th, 2007, 12:04 pm There is no scarier world. It's the people who may make the world scary, not the creatures in it. There is a lot of scary beings in the wizarding world that are non-existant in the muggle world, but they're under control and don't just roam around (and if they do, there's a wand to the wizard's/witch's advantage). A place isn't scary when one is used to it. If a muggle starts suddenly living in the wizarding world, then it may seem scary for him. Spells may seem scary. But look what the muggle world has turned out to be. At least it takes focus to perform a strong spell that may damage the bearer, but it's very easy to pull a trigger. Draco_4Ever August 14th, 2007, 12:07 pm I'd say the wizarding world is scarier. Voldemort, strange creatures, dangerous spells, Death-Eaters...:eeep: Grimmodr August 14th, 2007, 2:50 pm I think our world is more scary, with all the bad stuff that I hear on the news. However the magical world has scary aspects too, Voldemort torturing and killing strange beasts and the like but these are all fantasy so in my mind they have an alluring affect which makes me want to no more about them if that makes sense:) eatus_Benevol1 September 5th, 2007, 4:40 am I remember while reading the books - consciously thinking how it would be scarier/harder to live in the magical world. I would have probably had anxiety attacks if I had to attend Hogwarts - students using wands behind your back to jinx you and the way the professors just took it in stride that the venenous flesh eating plants and irreversible spells were being learned/handled by children. Much more scarier than lions and tigers and bears, oh my. Wright1771 September 6th, 2007, 9:08 am Wizards do live in a 'strange world', but they're lucky....they only had one 'crackpot' trying to take over.......look at how many 'crackpots' are trying to take over ours! Adritha September 6th, 2007, 9:51 am The magical world is much more immediate because of wands. One incantation or wave and anyone who wasn't properly protected can be affected; everyone is carrying the perfect weapon all the time, so they must all learn to defend themselves. "Constant vigilance", and Harry's warning for his son not to duel until he's learned how - those aren't empty words, they're very stark reminders of the incredible dangers faced every day by magical folk. Harry's inherited Hallow was the only thing a wizard can use to "cheat Death": the invisibility cloak, the one that simply removes one from the position of target. Not the Elder wand, but the cloak. Not power, but protection. Our mundane world has its fair share of maniacs big and small, bullies, power-hungry and prejudice-riddled people, but at least not all eleven-year-old muggles are handed a universal weapon on their birthday. Our world is easier to live in because we don't have to face that sort of power in ourselves, and most of us never have to wonder whether they're good people, never mind how far is too far . The scariest thing about the wizard world, to me at least, is the casual attitude towards jinxes. Physical pain and humiliation are considered perfectly normal retributions for minor offenses, and everyone takes justice in their own hands. That being said, I wouldn't mind discovering I have some previously unsuspected magical abilities of my own. *cough cough* mrchee September 6th, 2007, 9:55 am Wizards aint got neutron bombs Fairygdmther September 6th, 2007, 11:44 pm No, no neutron bombs in the wizard world, but we muggles don't have to deal with dementors either - good thing, we can't make corporeal patronuses to drive them away. FGM Leon_Lionheart September 6th, 2007, 11:49 pm The magical world is much more immediate because of wands. One incantation or wave and anyone who wasn't properly protected can be affected; everyone is carrying the perfect weapon all the time, so they must all learn to defend themselves. "Constant vigilance", and Harry's warning for his son not to duel until he's learned how - those aren't empty words, they're very stark reminders of the incredible dangers faced every day by magical folk. Harry's inherited Hallow was the only thing a wizard can use to "cheat Death": the invisibility cloak, the one that simply removes one from the position of target. Not the Elder wand, but the cloak. Not power, but protection. Our mundane world has its fair share of maniacs big and small, bullies, power-hungry and prejudice-riddled people, but at least not all eleven-year-old muggles are handed a universal weapon on their birthday. Our world is easier to live in because we don't have to face that sort of power in ourselves, and most of us never have to wonder whether they're good people, never mind how far is too far . The scariest thing about the wizard world, to me at least, is the casual attitude towards jinxes. Physical pain and humiliation are considered perfectly normal retributions for minor offenses, and everyone takes justice in their own hands. That being said, I wouldn't mind discovering I have some previously unsuspected magical abilities of my own. *cough cough* I echo your post to the very last asterisk. Nmyphadora September 7th, 2007, 12:00 am Muggle world is scarrier than Wizarding because Wizarding isn't real and the muggle world is. Our world, the real world at the presant time is so scarry that it is great to escape to the books and other worlds where we feel familar and not so afriad. The Wizarding world or Narnia or some other relm would be alot more funner to live in then our muggle world right now. That's the truth Alucinor99 September 7th, 2007, 12:03 am I think the Wizard world is more safe in terms of defense, because it is not about physical strength, it is more about intellect, using wands to protect yourself is a much better way, because in the Muggle world, if you are attacked by someone much larger and they have a weapon, you don't have a way to defend yourself. If you are being attacked using a wand, you have a better chance of defending yourself because even if you are not the most trained, you know how to fire spells to give enough time to protect yourself, or get away. This is just one small aspect of it though. I believe in the personal defense category, the muggle world is less safe, in the wizard world I think there is more equal footing in this regard, AptPupil September 7th, 2007, 12:05 am The Muggle world no question. The difference between our world and her imaginary one is that hers is full of big, black and white evil that strikes me as sort of comical and imagined, whereas our world is full of a bit of the large scale evil and a heck of alot of small scale, grey evil. Not to say that there aren't grey areas in HP, but not alot of them. The effect is sort of a cartoonish line between good and evil, which is typical of this kind of book and doesn't have to be a negative thing at all. So I would take HP's whimsical evil over our brand of real world evil any day. magic_is_might September 7th, 2007, 2:30 am I think you can't really compare the two worlds. They both have their equivelents. Like in the magical worlds, you have dementors where they suck out all your happiness then your soul. In the muggle world, the equivelant is school. Same effect (joke btw...). But it really depends, and it's had for me to describe, but i think that the muggle world has horrors that the wizards can't even comprehend (i know right now your like 'what?') and vice versa. MoonStarRaven September 7th, 2007, 5:20 am I don’t know about the magical word as a whole but I would think that the schools at least would be scarier. The issues of child safety seems to be of far less concern than at a muggle school. What with all the things that happens to the students. Magical attacks from other students, getting hit by bludgers, dangerous creatures, having potions blow up in your face. I once saw a woman’s (whose little boy was in the same class as my daughter )throw a fit and threaten to sue because her son got a splinter climbing the wooden play equipment at recess. I can just imagine her reaction to "Your son is in the medical ward because he sprouted tentacles from his face after a faulty cauldron melted.’ :lol: Not to mention that their seems to be no teacher accountability. I can’t see someone like Snape ever being aloud to teach at a muggle school for very long. Maybe magical parents just except that it’s an inherently dangerous situation, but I can’t see parents of muggle borns taking it so nonchalantly. As for the two worlds in general, granted there is a lot of horrible things that people can and have done to each other. There are far more and worst things that magical people can do to each other. That being said I wouldn’t mind being able to make the dishes wash themselves. ;) Hes September 7th, 2007, 10:15 am Muggle world no doubt about it. In the magical world the dangers are pretty much things one can control more or less. They are very visible and wizards are capable of protecting themselves in a way muggles can't. Both worlds have their scary sides, but I think that there is more hate and war in the muggle world. Even if you can compare Voldemort's regime with dictatorial regimes, it was still on a smaller scale. KOTMods September 7th, 2007, 10:19 pm I'm not sure which is scarier. They are both highly dangerous worlds to be honest. In the Muggle world you hear of shootings and stabbings and murders all the time...Like the dissapearance of Madeleine McCann in May, and that poor Rhys Jones that got shot a few weeks ago. It's a highly dangerous place to live in + yobs are constantly walking down the street waiting for someone to be stabbed or mugged. That makes me in particular weary of just walking down the road incase I get attacked by a bunch of hoodies. It's a scary place to live in + I think that it's gone too far now people are scared to go out of their own home. There are alot of people that do these things, as they are regular occurances. But in the Wizarding world, you don't hear of loads of people doing it. Well, you have Voldemort and his followers but they're just a bunch of low lifes working together to bring down innocence, but you don't hear of random wizards going round Avada Kedavra-ing people they see in the streets, and that's the difference between the wizarding world and the muggle world. Late at night in the Wizard world i'm sure you'd feel safe if you met anyone other than Voldemort and his posse, and that's different to the place we live in. You hear of Voldemort doing all these disgusting things and it just makes you think that there are people like that out there, and when you walk down the street you meet a milder version of Voldemort. Although, Wizards are always carrying their weapon. They go around carrying their wands wherever they go, and that's the instrument that produces the 3 Unforgiveable Curses...That must be a weird thought to have. Personally, I think if you live in the Muggle world, you're far more at risk than if you live in the Wizarding world. Because also, Wizards have better means of protecting themselves. They have their wands with them all the time and if they get a Jinx or a Curse cast at them then they can use protective spells and get out of that situation quick. But in our world, when we're caught off guard walking up the street then you've shot it, there's no chance then. We have War aswell, and world hunger. And that's an awful thought. Obviously there's the war between Harry and Voldemort but I don't think that's to the extreme that our Wars' go to. People are fighting for their country here, and there's no need for it...People ought to just live and let live. DeathlyH September 7th, 2007, 10:37 pm Hmm, tough choice. I don't know... But I'm going with Muggle. Here, we have some seriously scary things. I think the main difference is the weapons. Here, we have atomic bombs. They kill hundreds of people at once. With wizards, Voldemort takes it one at a time.... PLus, you can protect yourself, with a Shield Charm. Here, there's no stopping it. CleanSweepSeven September 8th, 2007, 3:18 am The wizarding world may seem scarier, but let's remember that we are seeing it during the time of Voldemort, during the time of war. Also, Harry's life is a lot scarier than other wizards during this time. He's faced Voldemort many times, and Dementors affect him more than the average person. The Order is also certainly in more danger than the common wizard. Even members of the DA only had to fight directly once. Maybe the worlds themselves are equal, but the Wizarding World seems scarier through Harry's eyes. DancingMaenid September 8th, 2007, 3:28 am I think it's kind of relative, actually. The wizarding world would definitely be scary for a lot of us because we're muggles. But wizards and witches have abilities that help them defend themselves against risks in the wizarding world, just like muggles are sometimes able to defend themselves against muggle dangers. cybobbie September 8th, 2007, 4:08 am I think that both worlds are scary in their own ways since they are too different. I agree with some posts that the wizard world in some ways seems more secure because of the forms of defence that wizards can use. In the real world we usually have to depend on others to secure us from crimes and harm. If I could choose, I would prefer the menaces of the wizarding world, since nowadays we live in a world with so many crimes, so many wars and civil wars, and sometimes we live in countries, like mine, where is really dificult to see justice prevailing. So considering the forms of menaces and dangers, the forms to control them, the ways that one have to defend himself, I believe that the wizarding world is less dangerous and scarier. whitney2243 September 8th, 2007, 4:10 am i think there about equal because yes there are wizrds and spells and creatures but thats what all of the people are and can do and our world is the same like we all have access to weapons and things so weapons and spells are like equal therefore making our worlds basically equal. cybobbie September 8th, 2007, 4:43 am i think there about equal because yes there are wizrds and spells and creatures but thats what all of the people are and can do and our world is the same like we all have access to weapons and things so weapons and spells are like equal therefore making our worlds basically equal. Sorry but I have to desagree, since all wizards are entitled to use wands and receive training at school to use them, being able to use it outside school after 17, while not all the muggles are alowed to use weapons or to receive training on how to use weapons, at least not in all countries. In mine, for instance, you can't have one just for self defence, even if you know how to use one, so you depend on the police force to defend yourself. However I'm not saying that I believe that the wands and the weapons are the way to make both worlds secure. What I really believe is in justice. A good justice system have more power in controling the violence than any weapon. |