Everyone's Patronuses

But wasn't Ron too close to see it properly? Anyway Ron was most likely not too clued up on patronuses at that stage and neither were Harry or Hermione.

Lupin's patronus could possibly have changed after he fell in love with Tonks - her's did when she fell in love with Lupin. So he could have ended up with a chameleon but started out with something else I suppose. Dove's might be a symbol of peace but are in fact a species of pigeon and can be quite vicious fighters apparently. Anyway perhaps Lupin saw or read the Wizard of Oz and liked the cowardly lion from that Haha!

Maybe if he had a dog it could be a collie dog? I really can't think what his might have been at all.
Seems like everyone's casting around for an answer as well. Considering that Lupin felt sort of isolated, maybe an animal that's a bit of a loner?

A Loner like a Fox perhaps or one of the big cats - not lions. Wolves hunt in packs but foxes don't.

A fox implies cunning though, and Lupin doesn't strike me as cunning enough for his patronus to be affected by it.

What about a leopard. They're notoriously solitary and hard to find.

A fox implies cunning though, and Lupin doesn't strike me as cunning enough for his patronus to be affected by it.
I agree i had proposed a tiger...but then i thought ...without bashing any cat lovers...cats do give the impression of selfness and egocentrism...so i am having trouble seeing his patronus take the shape of any member of the cat family...and i don't mean to offend anyone knowing how passionate people can be about cats...:p

Why not a wolf? Wolves are loyal to their packs and very caring for their cubs, which fits Lupin in general. I know it seems too obvious or unpossible because he is a werewolf, but it does fit his personality.

Why not a wolf? Wolves are loyal to their packs and very caring for their cubs, which fits Lupin in general. I know it seems too obvious or unpossible because he is a werewolf, but it does fit his personality.
because he hates being a wolf,and ...it would be sad for him as i see that his happy thought produces a wolf...or so they say...

This was my first option by the way...but somehow i do see the other people´s point of view as logical...

I can see that point but... Well then why did Tonks' patronus change into a wolf? If Lupin hated being a wolf so much, then why would her patronus reflect that? I think that her patronus was the same as Lupin's in OotP, which would mean his was a wolf.

Good point - so how about a rogue wolf - one that won't hunt with the pack but will protect his cubs????

If not a leopard,cheetah, panther or even tiger. What's that saying about Leopards and changing their spots????

Now Platypus are solitary animals who don't really hunt anything but protect their own. I believe someone migjht have suggested this much earlier - if my ancient memory serves me correctly.

because he hates being a wolf,and ...it would be sad for him as i see that his happy thought produces a wolf...or so they say...

This was my first option by the way...but somehow i do see the other people´s point of view as logical...

True, Lupin does hate transforming into a wolf. Which is why I originally rejected it. That being said, it's a part of himself that overshadows his whole life. So logically, that could actually be his patronus. As far as Tonks' patronus, I don't think it was a regular wolf but perhaps a werewolf - Harry described it as "immense" after all.

Alright I'm not sure if these people's patronuses have been discussed yet, but I'll just throw 'em out there. What was Dumbeldore's patronus? What is McGonagel's patronus? Is it possible that Sirius' patrouns wasn't a dog, but perhaps a diffrent kind of animal?

Alright I'm not sure if these people's patronuses have been discussed yet, but I'll just throw 'em out there. What was Dumbeldore's patronus? What is McGonagel's patronus? Is it possible that Sirius' patrouns wasn't a dog, but perhaps a diffrent kind of animal?Dumbledore's Patronus was a phoenix, as we saw when he cast it in GoF and when Harry said it in DH. McGonagall's was a cat. She cast one to alert the other Heads of Houses before the Battle of Hogwarts. As for Sirius', I don't know, but I think it would be a dog. Someone else may know for sure, though. :)

Dumbledore's Patronus was a phoenix, as we saw when he cast it in GoF and when Harry said it in DH. McGonagall's was a cat. She cast one to alert the other Heads of Houses before the Battle of Hogwarts. As for Sirius', I don't know, but I think it would be a dog. Someone else may know for sure, though. :)
My gosh!!! I have the memory of my little dog Zoe(trust me he doesn't remember anything). I can't believe I forgot what they're patronuses are. Sorry everyone.

Apparently your patronus takes the form of your animagus if you are one.

If you read back through the posts you'll find Minerva, Albus and Sirius have already been discussed and there you'll find your answers.

So logically, that could actually be his patronus. As far as Tonks' patronus, I don't think it was a regular wolf but perhaps a werewolf - Harry described it as "immense" after all.
The more that i think of animals that would fit him ,the more i think his is a wolf...besides ...he hated being a were wolf...i don´t think he had anything against normal regular wolves...

He was a memeber of the order that meant he did hunt ...only that his hunting was a solitary one...

Maybe if he had a dog it could be a collie dog? I really can't think what his might have been at all.
I thought of that as well. :) When I thought about Lupin's characteristics: compassion, friendliness, gentleness, and loyalty; I must admit that the word "Lassie" flashed through my head. :blush: :blush: :blush:

I'm not saying it's perfect for Remus, but it seems to fit him adequately. :) But I am always open to more sugggestions!! :D

Apparently your patronus takes the form of your animagus if you are one.
That's right :):
There are also some facts supporting the fact that if a wizard is an Animagus and can summon a corporeal Patronus, they may be the same (i.e. Minerva McGonagall and James Potter).
We've seen a couple of cases that support this, but it may not be like this for every Animagus. :)

Dumbledore's Patronus was a phoenix, as we saw when he cast it in GoF and when Harry said it in DH. McGonagall's was a cat. She cast one to alert the other Heads of Houses before the Battle of Hogwarts. As for Sirius', I don't know, but I think it would be a dog. Someone else may know for sure, though. :)
Actually, McGonagall doesn't cast one, but three Patronuses to summon the other Heads of Houses. I don't know why, but I even remember five cats streaking out in every direction - but I must be mistaken.

Your other question has been answered upthread and here:

Apparently your patronus takes the form of your animagus if you are one.

If you read back through the posts you'll find Minerva, Albus and Sirius have already been discussed and there you'll find your answers.
Yes, I'm finding these long threads tend to go around in circles with people asking the same questions and getting answered time and time again, then someone else comes in and asks yet the same question - or makes the same arguments that get responded to a dozen times already (like the one about the Hogwarts Common Room, I've seen one argument put forward and proven invalid at least half a dozen times, but other people keep coming up with it constantly.) I guess it takes getting used to. :shrug:

Yes it's a bit like going round and round in a maze, lol!

Apparently your patronus takes the form of your animagus if you are one.

If you read back through the posts you'll find Minerva, Albus and Sirius have already been discussed and there you'll find your answers.
Albus is not an Animagus, though. The Phoenix is his very special "pet" - but your Patronus doesn't usually take your pet's form, or Harry's would be an owl, Hermione's a cat and Ron's (poor Ron!) a rat - or later a tiny owl.

This has been suggested before, but if (a big IF) Voldemort could produce a Patronus, would it take Nagini's form?

Yes it's a bit like going round and round in a maze, lol!
Please don't remind me of mazes... I'm girding myself up to do the Third Task. :scared:

Good luck with your Third Task whatever it is. May I ask what it is all about? (pretty please)

I thought of that as well. When I thought about Lupin's characteristics: compassion, friendliness, gentleness, and loyalty; I must admit that the word "Lassie" flashed through my head.

I'm not saying it's perfect for Remus, but it seems to fit him adequately. But I am always open to more suggestions!!
I like the idea of a dog ,specially one like lassie ...but another dog patronus int he marauders group....no i don't think so...
I have decided to stick with my idea of a wolf...he didn't hate wolves ,just werewolves...

Funny how we never saw it...only the silver light...we should have seen the dementors of lupin ...he did face the dementors several times in the books...

I like the idea of a dog ,specially one like lassie ...but another dog patronus int he marauders group....no i don't think so...
I have decided to stick with my idea of a wolf...he didn't hate wolves ,just werewolves...

Funny how we never saw it...only the silver light...we should have seen the dementors of lupin ...he did face the dementors several times in the books...

I like Lupin's patronus being a wolf as well.

I think if we tried, we could get a dog to be everyone's patronus, and it just doesnt seem fitting for another dog patronus.

think if we tried, we could get a dog to be everyone's patronus, and it just doesn't seem fitting for another dog patronus.
I agree everyone...on the good side was so loyal and such good friends they could all be dogs....Even magnonagall....(dog lover here obviously)
:drool:but it cant be so...so lets give the other animals a chance....;)

I like Lupin's patronus being a wolf as well.Besides the obvious part that he was a werewolf, I actually didn't see Lupin as a wolf-like person at all. In real life he was usually gentle and caring, and even when he was fighting in battle he never really brought out the true ferocity of a wolf that Greyback always exhibited. I don't know, I see Lupin as more of a lion, which someone suggested a few pages back. He had his weak moments, like in the GP basement scene in DH, but I think he was really very courageous underneath.

Besides the obvious part that he was a werewolf, I actually didn't see Lupin as a wolf-like person at all. In real life he was usually gentle and caring, and even when he was fighting in battle he never really brought out the true ferocity of a wolf that Greyback always exhibited. I don't know, I see Lupin as more of a lion, which someone suggested a few pages back. He had his weak moments, like in the GP basement scene in DH, but I think he was really very courageous underneath.
But lions are so selfish...i dont see lupin like that...actually i dont see lupin as any member of the cat family...

A wolf is fierce but with his own kind he is a good friend...he is loyal to the pack ...he fights to protect his territory....

But lions are so selfish...i dont see lupin like that...actually i dont see lupin as any member of the cat family...

A wolf is fierce but with his own kind he is a good friend...he is loyal to the pack ...he fights to protect his territory....

I agree. Wolves are loyal to their pack and do whatever it takes to protect their cubs and family. I think this is very fitting to Lupin.

Well there is the expression 'lone wolf' which might suit Lupin. He was a loner in as far as his work for the order went but as a wolf would have been very protective of his female partner and her cubs (Tonks and Teddy Remus). Very fitting and when you think about it very different from a werewolf. I mean can you imagine Fenrir behaving even remotely like that?

Well there is the expression 'lone wolf' which might suit Lupin. He was a loner in as far as his work for the order went but as a wolf would have been very protective of his female partner and her cubs (Tonks and Teddy Remus). Very fitting and when you think about it very different from a werewolf. I mean can you imagine Fenrir behaving even remotely like that?

Well said! A wolf is not the same thing as a werewolf, and although Lupin hates being a werewolf, it doesnt mean his Patronus could not be a wolf, which fits his personality, at least IMO

I think there's a good chance his patronus is a wolf, however I seriously doubt it'd be a werewolf. A patronus is supposed to be inspired by one's happiest memory, and Remus certainly didn't like being a werewolf. However he did say that when the rest of the marauders became animagus being a werewolf became the best times of his life... Hmm... I'd say a wolf patronus..

I think there's a good chance his patronus is a wolf, however I seriously doubt it'd be a werewolf. A patronus is supposed to be inspired by one's happiest memory, and Remus certainly didn't like being a werewolf. However he did say that when the rest of the marauders became animagus being a werewolf became the best times of his life... Hmm... I'd say a wolf patronus..
I would agree. Especially as Tonks' becomes something that very much looks like a dog or wolf when she falls for Remus. :)

Well said! A wolf is not the same thing as a werewolf, and although Lupin hates being a werewolf, it doesnt mean his Patronus could not be a wolf, which fits his personality, at least IMO
Thats what i have been saying all along.... a werewolf is what bothers Lupin ,not a wolf ...

and a wolf woud fit both his personality...IMO ...and i agree with inkling it inlcudes the loner part and would also fit his furry little problem...

I don't see Remus as having a owl for a patronus, he wasn't the typical definition of wise (we had Dumbledore for that) and yet I dont see him as a wearwolf either, yes patronuses tend to capture the essence of the person inside or else a loved one but Remus detested the fact he wasn't "whole". Remus patronus would show bravery but a lion I think is too strong, Remus was kind and gentle too and underlines the Gryffindor a little too much for me. A kind, gental, brave animal? I dog is far too cliche for a character like Remus (or maybe thats just the fact I like him too much to be too cliche?) A Thestral :lol:?
Thats another point, why are all the patronuses of animals only found in the Muggle world???

Get back to me on this one I have to have a big think!!!:argh:

I would agree. Especially as Tonks' becomes something that very much looks like a dog or wolf when she falls for Remus.
yes this is what makes me thinkhe had a wolf too...Snape had a doe for lily...
so ...can we infer that tonks had a wolf for Remus ,cause his was a wolf?
I would say yes...

yes this is what makes me thinkhe had a wolf too...Snape had a doe for lily...
so ...can we infer that tonks had a wolf for Remus ,cause his was a wolf?
I would say yes...

That could be the case, but Tonks' patronus could just be reflecting the werewolf that Remus was instead of his own patronus. But I think there is a big possiblity that you're right. Tonks would have probably seen Remus' patronus whilst in the Order, and hers may have adapted to his.

That could be the case, but Tonks' patronus could just be reflecting the werewolf that Remus was instead of his own patronus. But I think there is a big possibility that you're right. Tonks would have probably seen Remus' patronus whilst in the Order, and hers may have adapted to his.
Well it sound logical to me...
i hate it that of all the characters ,the one who taught harry how to perform the patronus charm...and we didn't get to see his...:grumble:

I never understood though why Lily's was a doe and why Hermiones is a otter.

Lily's was a doe because James' was a stag.

Hermione's was an otter for a couple of reasons maybe both related to the Weasleys. One an otter is similar genus to the weasel and two the Weasleys lived near the village of Ottery St Catchpole along the Otter River in Devon UK (not a real villiage BTW - just one Jo made up).

Hope that explains things for you.

Lily's was a doe because James' was a stag.

Hermione's was an otter for a couple of reasons maybe both related to the Weasleys. One an otter is similar genus to the weasel and two the Weasleys lived near the village of Ottery St Catchpole along the Otter River in Devon UK (not a real villiage BTW - just one Jo made up).

Hope that explains things for you.

JKR gave Hermione the otter for her patronus, because it's one of JKR's favorite animals. Here's the quote:
class 14: If you were a animagus which animal would you be? and why?

JK Rowling replies -> I gave Hermione my idea animagus, because it's my favourite animal. You'll find the answer in the Room of Requirement, Order of the Phoenix!

So - remind me - what is in the room of requirement in OOTP? I read somewhere else that JK also gave the others reasons as a reason why Hermione would want an otter for a patronus since her reason for it being her favorite animal would require her to give a feasible reason to her inquisitive readers Hermione's patronus. These reasons seems more likely to the readers than the reason of it being her favorite animal since the readers want a rational book related reason for her partonus .

So - remind me - what is in the room of requirement in OOTP? I read somewhere else that JK also gave the others reasons as a reason why Hermione would want an otter for a patronus since her reason for it being her favorite animal would require her to give a feasible reason to her inquisitive readers Hermione's patronus. These reasons seems more likely to the readers than the reason of it being her favorite animal since the readers want a rational book related reason for her partonus .
I did a search of JKR's interviews/chats, and found only the reference I quoted. If there are other comments JKR made on Hermione's patronus, I've never seen them, and they don't appear to be in Accio Quote either.

So - remind me - what is in the room of requirement in OOTP? I read somewhere else that JK also gave the others reasons as a reason why Hermione would want an otter for a patronus since her reason for it being her favorite animal would require her to give a feasible reason to her inquisitive readers Hermione's patronus. These reasons seems more likely to the readers than the reason of it being her favorite animal since the readers want a rational book related reason for her partonus .

I read somewhere that JKR based Hermione's character off of herself. Since JKR said that her favorite animal was an otter, and that's what patronus she gave Hermione, I'm guessing there's some kind of connection there...

Ah but - she can't give that as the reason in the books so she made the Weasleys live near a place with Otter in it's name and perhaps that where she go their surname from seeing Otters seems like a water based type of weasel. This gives Hermione a feasible reason for a having an otter as patronus instead of say and owl or other animal that could SEEM wise and studious.

Well there is the expression 'lone wolf' which might suit Lupin. He was a loner in as far as his work for the order went but as a wolf would have been very protective of his female partner and her cubs (Tonks and Teddy Remus).

The thing with Lupin though, is that he always wanted to be accepted. He wanted to belong and to be liked. He wasn't a lone wolf by choice.

I like the idea of a dog for Lupin. For me a wolf is a little bit close to home. What about a Siberian Husky? They look a lot like wolves.

What about a Siberian Husky? They look a lot like wolves.
hehe...good one...but it would still be yet another dog...I am sorry mad druid i am sticking with wolf ....although yours is a very good idea...:tu:

Does anyone have an idea what Flitwick's patronus might be? I can't really think of any animal suitable for him.

The thing with Lupin though, is that he always wanted to be accepted. He wanted to belong and to be liked. He wasn't a lone wolf by choice.

I like the idea of a dog for Lupin. For me a wolf is a little bit close to home. What about a Siberian Husky? They look a lot like wolves.

I think a dog has been proposed for as a possiblity for every character. :lol: I still think a wolf is fitting to his personality.

As for Flitwick. Possibly an owl? Although that isnt really fitting to his personality. Hmm...

Does anyone have an idea what Flitwick's patronus might be? I can't really think of any animal suitable for him.
i have to go to work right now...ill give it some thought and get back to you in the afternoon...maybe something big...to show the greatness of his ability in counter part with his size...

i have to go to work right now...ill give it some thought and get back to you in the afternoon...maybe something big...to show the greatness of his ability in counter part with his size...

Something big? Interesting idea.

I think it should be an animal that can be depended on but it needs more then that... :hmm:

Something big? Interesting idea.

I think it should be an animal that can be depended on but it needs more then that...
i was thinking about an elephant...Elephants cry, play, have incredible memories, and laugh!
Elephants are sensitive fellow animals where if a baby complains, the entire family will rumble and go over to touch and caress it.

But it doesnt convince me...

A few of my thoughts (sorry if I repeat myself)...

Neville Longbottom: a lion
Hannah Abbott/Longbottom: a lioness
Katie Bell: an antelope
Regulus Black: a house-elf
Lavender Brown: a toucan
Millicent Bulstrode: a black widow
Penelope Clearwater: a mermaid
Michael Corner: a yeti
Fleur Delacour/Weasley: a butterfly
Cedric Diggory: a unicorn
Marcus Flint: a troll
Godric Gryffindor: a lion
Helga Hufflepuff: a badger
Angelina Johnson/Weasley: an iguana
Lee Jordan: a tarantula
Viktor Krum: an eagle
Remus Lupin: a banshee
(just a wierd feeling I got)
Draco Malfoy: a dragon
Cormac McLaggen: a liarbird
Theodore Nott: a serpent
Pansy Parkinson: a rat
Padma & Parvati Patil: starlings
Molly Prewett/Weasley I: a seagull
James Potter II: a fox
Lily Potter II: a doe
Quirinus Quirrell: a crow
Rowena Ravenclaw: a raven
Salazar Slytherin: a serpent
Alicia Spinnet: a zebra
Dean Thomas: a leopard

:hmm:Remus Lupin: a banshee
(just a wierd feeling I got):hmm:

A few of my thoughts (sorry if I repeat myself)...

Regulus Black: a house-elf
Penelope Clearwater: a mermaid


Can Patronuses be part-humans? Or can they only be animals?

A few of my thoughts (sorry if I repeat myself)...

Neville Longbottom: a lion
Hannah Abbott/Longbottom: a lioness
Katie Bell: an antelope
Regulus Black: a house-elf
Lavender Brown: a toucan
Millicent Bulstrode: a black widow
Penelope Clearwater: a mermaid
Michael Corner: a yeti
Fleur Delacour/Weasley: a butterfly
Cedric Diggory: a unicorn
Marcus Flint: a troll
Godric Gryffindor: a lion
Helga Hufflepuff: a badger
Angelina Johnson/Weasley: an iguana
Lee Jordan: a tarantula
Viktor Krum: an eagle
Remus Lupin: a banshee
(just a wierd feeling I got)
Draco Malfoy: a dragon
Cormac McLaggen: a liarbird
Theodore Nott: a serpent
Pansy Parkinson: a rat
Padma & Parvati Patil: starlings
Molly Prewett/Weasley I: a seagull
James Potter II: a fox
Lily Potter II: a doe
Quirinus Quirrell: a crow
Rowena Ravenclaw: a raven
Salazar Slytherin: a serpent
Alicia Spinnet: a zebra
Dean Thomas: a leopard
Erm... what are your reasons behind these?

A few of my thoughts (sorry if I repeat myself)...

Neville Longbottom: a lion
Hannah Abbott/Longbottom: a lioness
Millicent Bulstrode: a black widow
Fleur Delacour/Weasley: a butterfly
Godric Gryffindor: a lion
Helga Hufflepuff: a badger
Lily Potter II: a doe
Salazar Slytherin: a serpent


These ones I can find possible.

Katie Bell: an antelope
Regulus Black: a house-elf
Lavender Brown: a toucan
Penelope Clearwater: a mermaid
Michael Corner: a yeti
Cedric Diggory: a unicorn
Marcus Flint: a troll
Angelina Johnson/Weasley: an iguana
Lee Jordan: a tarantula
Viktor Krum: an eagle
Remus Lupin: a banshee
(just a wierd feeling I got)
Draco Malfoy: a dragon
Cormac McLaggen: a liarbird
Theodore Nott: a serpent
Pansy Parkinson: a rat
Padma & Parvati Patil: starlings
Molly Prewett/Weasley I: a seagull
James Potter II: a fox
Quirinus Quirrell: a crow
Rowena Ravenclaw: a raven
Alicia Spinnet: a zebra
Dean Thomas: a leopard

These I would really love to see an explanation for. I really cant associate them with the mentioned people though.

And as for Flitwick being an elephant, I dont think so. Elephants always strike me as somewhat slow and unintelligent, which Flitwick isnt. I dont know what would really suit him though.

And as for Flitwick being an elephant, I dont think so. Elephants always strike me as somewhat slow and unintelligent, which Flitwick isnt. I dont know what would really suit him though.
i dont think it suits him either...still thinking...

Forlong...your list is um ...unusual ...do elaborate on why you have given those to the characters so we might be able to agree and disagree with you....;)

Well, what do we know about Flitwick:

- He's Head of Ravenclaw
- Treated Umbridge like a guest when she sat in on his class in OotP
- Was a duelling champion
- Likes decorating with live fairies :lol:
- Bursts into tears when Ginny is taken into the Chamber of Secrets

So he's intelligent, polite, emotional and an accomplished wizard.

Nope I've got nothing :p

Maybe a dolphin? I know it seems somewhat girly, but that could fit his emotional side. And dolphins are definitely intelligent and gentle which fits to Flitwick's personality. Thoughts?

Maybe a dolphin? I know it seems somewhat girly, but that could fit his emotional side. And dolphins are definitely intelligent and gentle which fits to Flitwick's personality. Thoughts?
mmmm...that one would look cool as a patronus...and its smart fits the ravenclaw trait...

Well if you want something opposite in size who is also intelligent - how about a whale of some sort. But I also think a magpie who likes to duel anyone who threatens his nest but also likes bright baubles - thinking of Flitwick decorating the Xmas tree here and levitating feathers which magpies have since they are a clever bird.

But I also think a magpie who likes to duel anyone who threatens his nest but also likes bright baubles - thinking of Flitwick decorating the Xmas tree here and levitating feathers which magpies have since they are a clever bird.

I was thinking of a Bower Bird but a Magpie would be good!

And as for Flitwick being an elephant, I dont think so. Elephants always strike me as somewhat slow and unintelligent, which Flitwick isnt. I dont know what would really suit him though.

Actually, elephants are one the most intelligent mammals, up there with dolphins. I like the irony of Flitwick having an elephant patronus. :lol:

I was thinking of a Bower Bird but a Magpie would be good!

Yes a magpie seems fiting to Flitwick as well.

Actually, elephants are one the most intelligent mammals, up there with dolphins. I like the irony of Flitwick having an elephant patronus. :lol:

Its just my perception of elephants :) And and elephant would definitely be ironic for Flitwick. I did however, suggest a dolphin.

Actually, elephants are one the most intelligent mammals, up there with dolphins. I like the irony of Flitwick having an elephant patronus.
thats why i was thinking around those lines...it would be ironic for him to have a big patronus ...but i dont like much the idea of the elephant...

Yeah I actually really like the idea of Flitwick and an Elephant. Really just seeing him next to an Elephant would be a good laugh.

Yeah I actually really like the idea of Flitwick and an Elephant. Really just seeing him next to an Elephant would be a good laugh.
The problem is there's no canon to support him being like an elephant. :shrug: I agree with Giuls, I see him as more of a magpie maybe. I don't really know. We haven't seen too much of him, so we can't be sure on anything.

A magpie?
ignorant about this bird--is he really smart...why a magpie?

The problem is there's no canon to support him being like an elephant. :shrug: I agree with Giuls, I see him as more of a magpie maybe. I don't really know. We haven't seen too much of him, so we can't be sure on anything. I'd say Mundungus Fletcher would be a magpie before Flitwick, by traits. Is there canon that Flitwick is a chatty collector?

I could see him having an elephant. A good memory, a careful kind sort of animal. Maybe a dolphin, since he's intelligent and shows a bit of a playful streak.

As I said before if you don't like an elephant for him them why not a whale of some sort as they are intelligent mammals too.

I suggested magpie because they are clever and quick and like baubles.

I suppose Mundungus could be a magpie for similar reasons but a really dishonest bird like the cuckoo who makes use of other birds nests or a squirrel who hoards nuts etc could suit him too. Or just a pest of a bird - a starling for Mundungus. We are probably completely off track here and with luck Jo will set us straight in The Scottish Book.

As I said before if you don't like an elephant for him them why not a whale of some sort as they are intelligent mammals too.

I suggested magpie because they are clever and quick and like baubles.

I suppose Mundungus could be a magpie for similar reasons but a really dishonest bird like the cuckoo who makes use of other birds nests or a squirrel who hoards nuts etc could suit him too. Or just a pest of a bird - a starling for Mundungus. We are probably completely off track here and with luck Jo will set us straight in The Scottish Book.
hehe its fun to discuss...

To be honest inkling i dont like the magpie cause its only a collector...i really liked the dolphin idea...
and i liked the contrast and irony of the elephant ...but not how it suited his abilities...

I guess a magpie isnt too fitting to Flitwick's personality afterall, but it does remind me somewhat of Slughorn's character.

but it does remind me somewhat of Slughorn's character.
due to the collecting of things?...yeah....I can see your connection there...

No too energetic for Slughorn but magpies are playful too. Dolphins are good but if as some suggested he had a patronus that was the complete opposite in his size then a whale could be good as they are playful as well and intelligient. However imagine a patronus the size of an elephant or whale appearing - it could take up rather too much room eh what! But given that the patronus is a charm and that was Flitwick's area of teaching - whatever his patronus was would be really good.

However imagine a patronus the size of an elephant or whale appearing - it could take up rather too much room eh what! Bu given that the patronus is a charm and that was Flitwick's area of teaching - whatever his patronus was would be really good.
I would love it if it turns out something as opposite to his size...it would show how size doesn't matter ...skill is what really counts..

No too energetic for Slughorn but magpies are playful too. Dolphins are good but if as some suggested he had a patronus that was the complete opposite in his size then a whale could be good as they are playful as well and intelligient. However imagine a patronus the size of an elephant or whale appearing - it could take up rather too much room eh what! Bu given that the patronus is a charm and that was Flitwick's area of teaching - whatever his patronus was would be really good.

But are patronus's actual size? I always imagined them more proportionally sized, but not life sized. (i.e. A horse would be large than a dog, etc.) I think that would be a bit of an inconvienience to those with larger patronuses if they are actually life size.

I think that if Hagrid was to have a Patronus it would be a Dragon as he always wanted one.

Also, Jo stated that Snape was the only Death Eater that could produce a Patronus. According to her this is 'because a Patronus is used against things that the Death Eaters generally generate, or fight alongside. They would not need Patronuses' (found on wikipedia)

From the books and the movies we find out the following patronuses:
Harry: Stag
Hermione: Sea Otter
Ron: Jack Russell Terrior
Lily and Snape: Doe
Dumbledore: Pheonix
Aberforth: Goat
McGonnegal: Tabby Cat
Umbridge: Cat
Mr. Weasley: Weasel
Kingsley: Lynx
Ginny: Horse (which is interesting as a female donkey is known as a Jenny)
Luna: Hare
Ernie: Boar
Seamus: Fox
Tonks: Werewolf
Cho: Swan

I think that if Hagrid was to have a Patronus it would be a Dragon as he always wanted one.
Awwww...a dragon for hagrid...but him being so noble it would have to be puff the magic dragon...or that green one...Elliot ...from disney...

Who who would have a sloth, pig, donkey, llama or camel? I love all those animals - well not so much camels. I notice nobody had a duck or a goose either or a hedgehog. Going a bit Beatrix Potter here.....

If Dudley had a patronus,he would be the pig...IMO

I think Fred and George would have raccoons as their patronuses; they get into everything!

I think Fred and George would have raccoons as their patronuses; they get into everything!

Racoons!! That's hysterical and ABSOLUTELY true. That would fit them just fine!:lol:

That or hyenas.....that laughed at everything even when they got seriously injured...even Fred died with a smile on his face....fitting (though very sad)

Then Percy should be a badger.

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Percy ...inkiling what had we said Percy should be?...it was one animal who was arrogant...a badger is loyal according to Hufflepuf and lets face it ...Percy was a bit of a traitor there...

But are patronus's actual size? I always imagined them more proportionally sized, but not life sized. (i.e. A horse would be large than a dog, etc.) I think that would be a bit of an inconvienience to those with larger patronuses if they are actually life size.
I'm not sure whether they're actual size or not, but I don't think they're corporeal anyway. So even if they were really big they wouldn't be a huge inconvenience or anything. It is kind of amusing to think of a tiny little elephant charging after you though :lol:

Well he was a bit of goose wasn't he.....
Apparently geese make good watch 'dogs' - watch geese and are quite officious in seeing trespassers off property. they are comical animals though they don't seem to think so. Mmmm I can see Percy as having a goose patronus. I hope all will be revealed by Jo in her Scottish Book but meanwhile we can have fun speculating.

I'm not sure whether they're actual size or not, but I don't think they're corporeal anyway. So even if they were really big they wouldn't be a huge inconvenience or anything. It is kind of amusing to think of a tiny little elephant charging after you though :lol:

Arent they described as corporeal in the books? I mean obviously they arent solid animals, but they do still take up some space. Or at least I would assume so?

Well he was a bit of goose wasn't he.....
Apparently geese make good watch 'dogs' - watch geese and are quite officious in seeing trespasses off property. they are comical animals though they don't seem to think so. Mmmm I can see Percy as having a goose patronus. I hope all will be revealed by Jo in her Scottish Book but meanwhile we can have fun speculating.
I think a goose would be perfect for Percy!

And I used to see Neville as a Penguin, you know, awkward but absolutely trustworthy. (As you can guess, I saw "March of the Penguins") :)

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Erm... Actually, what IS Neville's Patronus? :hmm:

Erm... Actually, what IS Neville's Patronus? :hmm:

We are never given Nevillel's patronus. I think the most favoured possiblity so far has been a lion due to his obvious bravery.

Can Patronuses be part-humans? Or can they only be animals?

They have to be animals, as far as we know. JKR describes it as a "kind of spirit guardian". I think in many older cultures, a spirit guardian/guide is normally an animal.

We are never given Nevillel's patronus. I think the most favoured possiblity so far has been a lion due to his obvious bravery.
I don't see Neville as I lion at all, despite his bravery. I'll stick to my Penguin idea.

Now Scrimgeour, what with his mane of hair, and also his courage (he died under torture rather than betray Harry, though Harry had been very rude and unhelpful to him) may have had Lion Patronus. IMHO. :)

We are never given Nevillel's patronus. I think the most favoured possiblity so far has been a lion due to his obvious bravery.
That doesn't seem to fit Neville's personality, to me anyway. Neville is a gentler soul, I see him with a more calm patronus.

That doesn't seem to fit Neville's personality, to me anyway. Neville is a gentler soul, I see him with a more calm patronus.

Yes, good point. He is also more cautious and hesitant, but in the end, he will fight for what is right/necessary. So what sort of animal represents this?

Not all lions are brave and most are lazy - letting the lionesses do all the work.

Now Neville hmmm that's a new challenge for us all should be a herbivore though seeing he likes plants and all. Maybe a bull will act when aggravated - like Neville was at Hogwarts in DH? I dunno but I'm sure someone will come up with an appropriate patronus for him.

Yes, good point. He is also more cautious and hesitant, but in the end, he will fight for what is right/necessary. So what sort of animal represents this?
Hmmm. Neville is steady, reliable, supportive, perseveres. Guess I need to be more informed on the members of the animal kingdom!

Not all lions are brave and most are lazy - letting the lionesses do all the work.
Good point, that's most all lions, except for rare loners/rogue groups with only males -- they have to hunt if there's no one else around. The lionness hunts, the male lion shows up to eat.

Arent they described as corporeal in the books? I mean obviously they arent solid animals, but they do still take up some space. Or at least I would assume so?
sorry, used the wrong word. I mean they aren't a physical, tangible sort of thing I don't think. I mean when conjured only partially they form a sort of shapeless silvery mist. They're used to fight magic and the misty forms of dementors so I was always under the impression that they were pure magic in a recognizable form. If they could actually perform a physical attack wouldn't they be used for that against other wizards? I mean they can scare people off and protect their people from spells perhaps but I don't think much more than that.
I meant they aren't gonna be knocking people over or anything like that.

Oh and I got the answer to the other question about how big your patronus can be. "Andros the Invincible is alleged to have been the only wizard known to have produced a Patronus the size of a giant." So I guess that means that everybody elses is considerably smaller than that.

That doesn't seem to fit Neville's personality, to me anyway. Neville is a gentler soul, I see him with a more calm patronus.
So what do y'all think of my Penguin idea? I think it fits him perfectly. He was so awkward at first, then came into his own when the time came to do so. Just like the Penguin parents defending their young, or their colony.
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My daughter sees Neville as a bear of some sort either a brown bear or polar bear but I suggested perhaps an Andean Spectacled Bear the last of the short-faced bear species. They are mostly herbivores but are on occasions carnivores (small animals only). They are timid bears which suited Neville at first on some occasions.

So what do y'all think of my Penguin idea? I think it fits him perfectly. He was so awkward at first, then came into his own when the time came to do so. Just like the Penguin parents defending their young, or their colony.
A penguin?they do help the mother take care of the pigeon...i can see Neville being a wonderful parent ,as far as that i like the penguin...let me research about how brave they are and i get back to you...:p

Now about Percy being a goose...:lol::lol:

I know that he is a Gryffindor, but I quite like the idea of Neville's patronus being a badger. JK said in an interview that Neville was almost sorted into Hufflepuff.

Badgers can be very fierce and are capable of fighting off much larger animals. Neville is a very down to earth and stable character and badgers also strike me as thus.

I know that he is a Gryffindor, but I quite like the idea of Neville's patronus being a badger. JK said in an interview that Neville was almost sorted into Hufflepuff.

Badgers can be very fierce and are capable of fighting off much larger animals. Neville is a very down to earth and stable character and badgers also strike me as thus.
MadDruid ...if when you suggested the badger you were talking about Neville...i don't disagree...Percy was the one who didn't strike me as a badger...now Neville...why not...i like it...of all Neville was very loyal...very,very loyal ...so why not his patronus be the same as the animal which represents the Hufflepuff house that is known for their loyalty...

sorry, used the wrong word. I mean they aren't a physical, tangible sort of thing I don't think. I mean when conjured only partially they form a sort of shapeless silvery mist. They're used to fight magic and the misty forms of dementors so I was always under the impression that they were pure magic in a recognizable form. If they could actually perform a physical attack wouldn't they be used for that against other wizards? I mean they can scare people off and protect their people from spells perhaps but I don't think much more than that.
I meant they aren't gonna be knocking people over or anything like that.

Okay, I see what you are saying. Makes sense to me. Still it would be an awesome sight to have an actual sized elephant patrouns running around. :lol:

Oh and I got the answer to the other question about how big your patronus can be. "Andros the Invincible is alleged to have been the only wizard known to have produced a Patronus the size of a giant." So I guess that means that everybody elses is considerably smaller than that.

So if his patronus was a giant, does that mean that some patronuses can be mythical creatures? I thought we'd established they could only be normal creatures, but if his was a giant, that would be somewhat contradicotry, and also open up many possilbities.


My daughter sees Neville as a bear of some sort either a brown bear or polar bear but I suggested perhaps an Andean Spectacled Bear the last of the short-faced bear species. They are mostly herbivores but are on occasions carnivores (small animals only). They are timid bears which suited Neville at first on some occasions.

Yes a bear I can see. I do like the idea of the Andean Spectacled Bear, or maybe even a panda? Panda's are quite cautious and easy-going, but also protective and loyal.

I know that he is a Gryffindor, but I quite like the idea of Neville's patronus being a badger. JK said in an interview that Neville was almost sorted into Hufflepuff.

Badgers can be very fierce and are capable of fighting off much larger animals. Neville is a very down to earth and stable character and badgers also strike me as thus.

And a badger I do find an excellent idea as well. Neville is indeed very loyal and fierce and brave when the need arises. I like both of the suggestions made. I think they do suit him better than a lion personality wise.

And as for Flitwick being an elephant, I dont think so. Elephants always strike me as somewhat slow and unintelligent, which Flitwick isnt. I dont know what would really suit him though.

I am not sure an elephant suits Flitwick either but elephants are quite the reverse of unintelligent. They have a memory that goes back for decades, they can remember people that have hurt them lets say 25 years ago. A matriarch has maps of huge areas in her head where she can find food and drink. They are also very social and if they see an elephant corpse they are know to stand by it for some time, softly touch it with their slurfs (to see who it was) and sort of pay their respects.

I like the bear idea although I can't help thinking about Winnie the Pooh :lol:

Pandas also have spectacle like markings around their eyes so I guess either would suffice but aI like to think of Neville as being a rather unknown and rare species. Pandas are rare but liking the limelight. Andean Bears are relatively unknown compared to Pandas even though they have similar personalities and are both quite rare. (Unless of course you are talking about the Red Panda) which is less rare and found in many Zoos)

Oh! this seems to have turned into a Zoological lecture - sorry. Will try not to do it again even if Neville's patronus does deserve it.

BTW Pooh was a bear of very little brain - so not Pooh Bear for Neville (unless we are talking about the evolution of patronuses???) Just joking....

So if his patronus was a giant, does that mean that some patronuses can be mythical creatures? I thought we'd established they could only be normal creatures, but if his was a giant, that would be somewhat contradicotry, and also open up many possilbities.
It actually just said that it was the size of a giant, not an actual giant. I have no clue if a patronus can be a human type form, I doubt it, but we know that they can be mythical creatures. Dumbledore's was a phoenix.

It actually just said that it was the size of a giant, not an actual giant. I have no clue if a patronus can be a human type form, I doubt it, but we know that they can be mythical creatures. Dumbledore's was a phoenix.

Ah, I was a bit confused by that. I cant imagine why he would need to produce a patronus that large though? You're right, I dont think they can be human forms, just animals, although mythical creatures dont seem to be common.

People wanted me to elaborate on my list so...

Neville Longbottom: a lion
Hannah Abbott/Longbottom: a lioness
No one disagrees with me there.

Katie Bell: an antelope
Antelopes are quick and cautious.

Regulus Black: a house-elf
Regulus loved house-elves. Come on.

Lavender Brown: a toucan
Toucans are loud and brightly colored. It just feels right to me.

Millicent Bulstrode: a black widow
I don't think I even need to say any more here.

Penelope Clearwater: a mermaid
Just seems a bit ironic with her name.

Michael Corner: a yeti
Blame the guy who played him in the movie. He ruined my mental picture of the guy.

Fleur Delacour/Weasley: a butterfly
Both are beautiful.

Cedric Diggory: a unicorn
His wand core is a unicorn. And it puts more trauma into his death, I think.

Marcus Flint: a troll
He looks like he's part troll.

Godric Gryffindor: a lion
Helga Hufflepuff: a badger
Rowena Ravenclaw: a raven
Salazar Slytherin: a serpent
These are the symbols of their houses.

Angelina Johnson/Weasley: an iguana
Iguanas are just cool. And they hold on tight to treebranches.

Lee Jordan: a tarantula
Both are cool and a little creapy at different times.

Viktor Krum: an eagle
His nose reminds me of an eagle.

Remus Lupin: a banshee
I don't know why, this just seemed like the right thing to me.

Draco Malfoy: a ferret
I changed it from dragon to ferret. I think we all will enjoy that thought.

Cormac McLaggen: a liarbird
He just won't shut his mouth.

Theodore Nott: a serpent
Pansy Parkinson: a rat
You know, I didn't put a lot of thought into these. Maybe I can do better.

Padma & Parvati Patil: starlings
I saw a picture of a starling and thought, "That's perfect for the Patil twins!"

Molly Prewett/Weasley I: a seagull
She's uptight and sometimes talkes to much.

James Potter II: a fox
From what Rowling has said, he's chief mischief-maker at Hogwarts. And foxes are renoun as tricksters.

Lily Potter II: a doe
Thought it would be cute if she had the same patronus as her namesake.

Quirinus Quirrell: a crow
Alicia Spinnet: a zebra
Not sure why I picked these. I'll have to put some thought into them...

Dean Thomas: a leopard
Hmmmmmm. I get back to this one.

Neville Longbottom: a lion
Hannah Abbott/Longbottom: a lioness
No one disagrees with me there
I do...and others too...you see the male lion is a bit of a lazy cat...he eats what the lioness has caught and then he sleeps all day...of course he will defend his mates but....he isn't much like Neville...

for Neville,most of us like the Badger and some like a penguin....which reminds me ...i still have to discuss that....Millicent Bulstrode: a black widow
I don't think I even need to say any more here.

I agee....
Dean Thomas: a leopard
Hmmmmmm. I get back to this one.

Wasn't dean Thomas a fox....I think this one we did know what it was....
James Potter II: a fox
From what Rowling has said, he's chief mischief-maker at Hogwarts. And foxes are renown as tricksters.

James had a stag like Harry....:p
Pansy Parkinson: a rat:lol::lol::lol::lol:

Lee Jordan is creepy? :scared: really?

I wouldn't say the Regulus Black loved houselves. He just had less of a prejudice than others and used it to his advantage.

The Patil twins are very different so I doubt they'd be the same thing. And starlings are really ratty birds...can't agree on that one.

I don't think you're being fair to poor Molly either. She's very kind and loving and defends her family above anything. Saying that her primary characteristics that would define her patronus are that she's "uptight and sometimes talks to much" is going a bit far I think. You could say the same about Hermione and McGonagall and McClaggen as well.

I don't think you're being fair to poor Molly either
Molly a seagull?
why?
Molly is like a lioness,she is loving and caring but don't mess with her cubs.

Molly a seagull?
why?
Molly is like a lioness,she is loving and caring but don't mess with her cubs.

I totally agree with that statement. I think that the Patil twins would seperate Patronuses though, even if they are identical. :)

I think that the Patil twins would separate Patronuses though, even if they are identical.
Yes me too,even Fred and George ,who are soooooo alike,and are even in the same house ,strike me as having different Patronuses.
There fore the Patil twins strike me as having different Patronuses as well.

What they are,i don't know,I don't think i know their character as well as to decide or even speculate what patronus would fit them best.

Yes me too,even Fred and George ,who are soooooo alike,and are even in the same house ,strike me as having different Patronuses.
There fore the Patil twins strike me as having different Patronuses as well.

What they are,i don't know,I don't think i know their character as well as to decide or even speculate what patronus would fit them best.

On that note, for some reason it just popped into my head that Fred's Patronus would have to be a really friendly looking dog.

On that note, for some reason it just popped into my head that Fred's Patronus would have to be a really friendly looking dog.
I am afaid i disagree with you...I definetly dont like too many dogs for patronuses...two are already enough.(Sirius and Ron)

I personally see Fred´s patronus as a racoon .
And George like a chimpanzee,both very mischievous animals.

I can't see Molly as a lioness, to me that's more like Narcissa. I see Molly as a vixen, a female fox, who's wise, a good den mother, like Molly, but is no one to mess with.

How about a ram for Percy, he's always butting heads with someone.

For Draco, how about an eagle or a hawk - a bird of prey.
Crabbe and Goyle could be brown bears, large and easily roused to fight.

Fred and George could be dolphins - playful, but very smart.

Bellatrix - a panther, who sneaks up and attacks mercilessly.

Sirius - a panda or koala, cuddly and handsome, but will defend his own territory (animagus forms and patronuses don't have to be the same)

Filch - a jackal, who is a scavenger

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I can't see Molly as a lioness, to me that's more like Narcissa. I see Molly as a vixen, a female fox, who's wise, a good den mother, like Molly, but is no one to mess with.

How about a ram for Percy, he's always butting heads with someone.

For Draco, how about an eagle or a hawk - a bird of prey.
Crabbe and Goyle could be brown bears, large and easily roused to fight.

Fred and George could be dolphins - playful, but very smart.

Bellatrix - a panther, who sneaks up and attacks mercilessly.

Sirius - a panda or koala, cuddly and handsome, but will defend his own territory (animagus forms and patronuses don't have to be the same)

Filch - a jackal, who is a scavenger

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I see either Crabbe or Goyle as monkeys with their hands stuck in a hole because they can't figure out they have to let go of what's in their hands to get them out. Once again I disagree with twins having the same Patronuses, although I like the idea of George being a dolphin. Ram for Percy: Awesome. :lol: I imagine Umbridge being a sort of OCD spider for some reason. Maybe because she always wants order but is still poisonous (in her own way).

Fred and George could be dolphins - playful, but very smart.
this one is a good idea too.:tu:

Someone mentioned before what they thought the next generation's Patronuses would be. Remember, James is only twelve, Albus Severus is eleven, and Lily is nine. Unless James was even more talented than his father, then none of them would be able to produce Patronuses at this point. :)

Someone mentioned before what they thought the next generation's Patronuses would be. Remember, James is only twelve, Albus Severus is eleven, and Lily is nine. Unless James was even more talented than his father, then none of them would be able to produce Patronuses at this point.
Agree and besides,we dont know much about their personalities,only very general hints.like Rose was smart like her mother and that James had inherited abit from James grandpa and his uncles Fred and George.

To emphasize Molly's positive attributes, I would agree with lioness or mama bear.

Vixen can have a bit of a connotation of being sultry, even wanton. Perhaps that would suit Celestina, the Singing Sorceress?

I would think of billy goat for Percy before a ram.

Definitely not a starling for either of the Patils, please. Starlings are awful!

How about an albatross for Trelawney? I think that would be suitable irony for the way her predictions hang around the necks of some of her students.

I was thinking of old stories of folding origami cranes as a petition for a miracle. I don't immediately think of any of the characters as having a devout belief in miracles, per se. Perhaps as an appreciation of the wonders of the world, or its lanky, graceful flight as a contrast to stature of the caster. In either case, Flitwick or Hagrid might suit.

Dennis Creevey - giant squid?

Do you think Fleur's Patronus would be a Veela? Or some sort of animal?

Dennis Creevey - giant squid?
:lol:

besides him being thrilled about falling in the lake,i don't see what traits he would share with the giant Squid.
Do elaborate,so i can agree or disagree with you..
besides I don't think we know much about Denis to try to speculate what his patronus would be.
you think Fleur's Patronus would be a Veela? Or some sort of animal?
I see Fleur as a unicorn.She is very strong but also very beautiful.

Do you think Fleur's Patronus would be a Veela? Or some sort of animal?

I'm one to believe that Fleur's patronus would be a butterfly. Such a delicate and beautiful creature is very fitting to Fleur and her personality.

And I love the idea of Molly being the mama bear type. She is very protective of her family, and we get a very good taste of this during her battle with Bellatrix.

Another question. Besides his last name, what qualities does Arthur actually share with a Weasel? I dont think he is sly or cunning in any way like a weasel.

I'm one to believe that Fleur's patronus would be a butterfly. Such a delicate and beautiful creature is very fitting to Fleur and her personality.
Hey ,this one is very fitting too.I like that idea too.

And about Arthur,weasels are active both day and night,the coat of the weasel is reddish brown and its a hunter..
.Arthur hunts for wizards who are having missuse of muggle artifacts?

Another question. Besides his last name, what qualities does Arthur actually share with a Weasel? I dont think he is sly or cunning in any way like a weasel.

That's pretty baffling. :drool: I would guess that Arthur must be cunning in his own way. He must have to do some quick thinking sometimes being in the Misuse of Muggle Artifacts office. Maybe it's because he is sly in his work for the Order? I'm pretty lost on this. I'm not really sure what qualities a weasel has.:err:

:lol:

besides him being thrilled about falling in the lake,i don't see what traits he would share with the giant Squid.
Do elaborate,so i can agree or disagree with you..
besides I don't think we know much about Denis to try to speculate what his patronus would be.


Oh, just that it must have made such an impression on Dennis on his first night at Hogwarts. Happy memory, squid saved his live, great associative value in a protective charm, goes along well with the size contrast some folks were suggesting for Flitwick, etc...

He and his brother were definitely of the 'the magical world is so cool!' school. I imagine him throwing himself into magical creatures and/or herbology classes with the greatest of passion, even moreso than their other courses (other than Dumbledore's Army)

Oh, just that it must have made such an impression on Dennis on his first night at Hogwarts. Happy memory, squid saved his live, great associative value in a protective charm, goes along well with the size contrast some folks were suggesting for Flitwick, etc...

He and his brother were definitely of the 'the magical world is so cool!' school. I imagine him throwing himself into magical creatures and/or Herbology classes with the greatest of passion, even moreso than their other courses (other than Dumbledore Army)
I definitely like your idea.
I repeat we don't know much about his character ,but i agree with your view...so why not?

Regulus Black: a house-elf
Regulus loved house-elves. Come on.

Penelope Clearwater: a mermaid
Just seems a bit ironic with her name.

Marcus Flint: a troll
He looks like he's part troll.

I don't think those (house-elf, mermaid, troll) are possible, because they're not animals.

Also, I don't see Cedric's patronus as a unicorn at all. I think that a unicorn fits Fleur very well, though.

Also, I don't see Cedric's patronus as a unicorn at all. I think that a unicorn fits Fleur very well, though.
I agree. :) Unicorns strike me as very proud creatures, and IMO Cedric was too humble to have a unicorn patronus. He was popular at Hogwarts, but he didn't treat anyone else as an inferior. I also always thought of him as being very loyal and hard-working too. He also proved his fairness in GoF when he insisted that Harry take the Triwizard Cup, and then they took it together. Cedric was an admirable person; a true Hufflepuff. So maybe the Hufflepuff badger would fit him well...? Although I seem to recall that a badger was suggested for someone else in this thread, but I can't remember who. :hmm:

I agree. :) Unicorns strike me as very proud creatures, and IMO Cedric was too humble to have a unicorn patronus. He was popular at Hogwarts, but he didn't treat anyone else as an inferior. I also always thought of him as being very loyal and hard-working too. He also proved his fairness in GoF when he insisted that Harry take the Triwizard Cup, and then they took it together. Cedric was an admirable person; a true Hufflepuff. So maybe the Hufflepuff badger would fit him well...? Although I seem to recall that a badger was suggested for someone else in this thread, but I can't remember who. :hmm:

I don't see Unicorns as extremely proud, at least not like Hippogriffs. So maybe Malfoy's Patronus should have (ironically) been a Hippogriff. :p

I don't see Unicorns as extremely proud, at least not like Hippogriffs. So maybe Malfoy's Patronus should have (ironically) been a Hippogriff. :p
Oooh, I could see that. Or maybe an eagle/hawk type thing? Sorry, I'm not too good with birds, but you know what I mean.

I see Fleur as a Fox, very fierce and brave but also well groomed ect. The twins' I could see as ferrets maybe? Charlie has a dragon I think, and Bill a rougher, more ragged Fox then Fleurs. Percy has a pompous but comical Owl?

Oooh, I could see that. Or maybe an eagle/hawk type thing? Sorry, I'm not too good with birds, but you know what I mean.

I see Fleur as a Fox, very fierce and brave but also well groomed ect. The twins' I could see as ferrets maybe? Charlie has a dragon I think, and Bill a rougher, more ragged Fox then Fleurs. Percy has a pompous but comical Owl?

I love every single idea in your post. Especially Percy's pompous owl. :lol: I love the idea of Fleur as a very beautiful looking fox, it seems to suit her.

I love every single idea in your post. Especially Percy's pompous owl. :lol: I love the idea of Fleur as a very beautiful looking fox, it seems to suit her.

I know, the owl was just SO Percy! I think a female fox (vixen?), especially the silvery patronus one, would just be so Fleur, feisty, but still a bit sexy :lol:. What do you think about Tonk's pre-Remus?

see Fleur as a Fox, very fierce and brave but also well groomed ect
I like hers as a unicorn,or a butterfly ,someone suggested this and I liked it due to the way she moves,like she is flying.

What do you think about Tonk's pre-Remus?
A chamaleon that can change the color of his skin for camouflage.Fits the metamorphagus part.

I like hers as a unicorn,or a butterfly ,someone suggested this and I liked it due to the way she moves,like she is flying.


A chamaleon that can change the color of his skin for camouflage.Fits the metamorphagus part.

Yeah, she does move with that sort of fluid grace, but I don't see her bravery coming thorugh in it. That's a great idea for Tonks! I could also see her with a large golden retreiver like dog.

Yeah, she does move with that sort of fluid grace, but I don't see her bravery coming thorugh in it.
Me neither,but i thought it was a nice idea.IMO, hers is a unicorn.
I dont see her as a dog,because we already have two dogs ,and that IMO,is enough.I think if we put our mind into it,like someone else said,we could easily find all the good side matching with dogs,cause they are all so loyal and good.
So I like to try to find other creatures that would match with other characteristics and not only how loyal or friendly they were.

Me neither,but i thought it was a nice idea.IMO, hers is a unicorn.
I dont see her as a dog,because we already have two dogs ,and that IMO,is enough.I think if we put our mind into it,like someone else said,we could easily find all the good side matching with dogs,cause they are all so loyal and good.
So I like to try to find other creatures that would match with other characteristics and not only how loyal or friendly they were.

I actually don't see that many of the good side as dogs (but I'm more of a cat person), but I picked that particular one for Tonks because of it's bounciness and playful side, whilst being lovable, clumsy and friendly. That's just my thoughts though, and I'm sure other animals would do as well, perhaps a tiger cub? That would still show her playful side, but also the brave auror.

I actually don't see that many of the good side as dogs (but I'm more of a cat person), but I picked that particular one for Tonks because of it's bounciness and playful side, whilst being lovable, clumsy and friendly. That's just my thoughts though, and I'm sure other animals would do as well, perhaps a tiger cub? That would still show her playful side, but also the brave auror.
hehe,you see, I said that becuase if you read the thread ,you will be amazed how many prople end up suggesting dogs for almost all characters.

hehe,you see, I said that becuase if you read the thread ,you will be amazed how many prople end up suggesting dogs for almost all characters.

Really? :lol: I read a couple of pages, but it was to long to read all of!

I don't see Unicorns as extremely proud, at least not like Hippogriffs. So maybe Malfoy's Patronus should have (ironically) been a Hippogriff. :p
Sorry...they just seem proud somehow...but now that I really think about it, they aren't! :D I just checked in GoF when Professir Grubbly-Plank teaches the lesson on unicorns, and the unicorn didn't seem prideful at all. So I guess a unicorn wouldn't be half-bad for Cedric. Like unicorns, Cedric is supposed to be very good-looking (:eyebrows:), but he doesn't get snobby about it; he doesn't go with the "popular people" and ignore everyone else. He makes friends with everyone.

I can see how Cedric can be related to a unicorn, but I still think that a Hufflepuff badger would fit him better. But it's JMO. :)

Really? I read a couple of pages, but it was to long to read all of!
I know,it too much to read the whole thread ,let me summarize,so far people have suggested a dog for Lupin,a dog for Neville,a dog for Fred and George,a dog for Hagrid, a dog for Bill,and then you ,a dog for Tonks.so I got to think ...no more dogs!!!:lol::lol:

Ok here's what I think everyone's patronuses are and were:

Neville Longbottom-Pigion(not sure why, but it just came to mind)
Sirius Black-Dog
Menerva McGonagal-Cat
Albus Dumbeldore-Phenoex
Harry Potter-Stag
Ginny Weasly-Doe
Lily Potter-Doe
James Potter-Stag
Severus Snape-Doe
Remus Lupin-Lion
Fred and George Weasley-Weasel
Bill Weasley-A ruff looking fox
Fluer Delacor-Fox
Percy Weasley-An owl kind of like the one that the weasleys used to have. The one that kept running into things.
Rubeus Hagrid-Hypogriff
Nymphodora Tonks-Wolf
Teddy Lupin-Wolf
Ron Weasley-Bull Dog
Hermione Granger-Otter
"Mad-Eye" Moody-Still working on that one.

Does anyone have any idea what Mad-Eye's was?

Ok here's what I think everyone's patronuses are and were:

Neville Longbottom-Pigion(not sure why, but it just came to mind)
Sirius Black-Dog
Menerva McGonagal-Cat
Albus Dumbeldore-Phenoex
Harry Potter-Stag
Ginny Weasly-Doe
Lily Potter-Doe
James Potter-Stag
Severus Snape-Doe
Remus Lupin-Lion
Fred and George Weasley-Weasel
Bill Weasley-A ruff looking fox
Fluer Delacor-Fox
Percy Weasley-An owl kind of like the one that the weasleys used to have. The one that kept running into things.
Rubeus Hagrid-Hypogriff
Nymphodora Tonks-Wolf
Teddy Lupin-Wolf
Ron Weasley-Bull Dog
Hermione Granger-Otter
"Mad-Eye" Moody-Still working on that one.

Does anyone have any idea what Mad-Eye's was?

I think the name of the Weasley's owl was Errol:) hope that helps. But as to Mad Eye I really don't have a clue, but I think the rest of your are good!

Ginny Weasley-Doe
Hey ,I think hers became a doe too.Although some people disagree.I like to believe that just like Lily´s,hers became a doe too.Does anyone have any idea what Mad-Eye's was?

confesses to be clue less.
Good one Pure blood!!!

Ok here's what I think everyone's patronuses are and were:

Neville Longbottom-Pigion(not sure why, but it just came to mind)
Sirius Black-Dog
Menerva McGonagal-Cat
Albus Dumbeldore-Phenoex
Harry Potter-Stag
Ginny Weasly-Doe
Lily Potter-Doe
James Potter-Stag
Severus Snape-Doe
Remus Lupin-Lion
Fred and George Weasley-Weasel
Bill Weasley-A ruff looking fox
Fluer Delacor-Fox
Percy Weasley-An owl kind of like the one that the weasleys used to have. The one that kept running into things.
Rubeus Hagrid-Hypogriff
Nymphodora Tonks-Wolf
Teddy Lupin-Wolf
Ron Weasley-Bull Dog
Hermione Granger-Otter
"Mad-Eye" Moody-Still working on that one.

Does anyone have any idea what Mad-Eye's was?

Mad-Eye's should be an animal with several eyes, for obvious reasons.

GrangerHermione: I liked what you said about Cedric. I thought his all around friend making quality was potrayed especially well in the movie. I just call to mind the scene where he was surrounded by friends with Potter Stinks badges. He tells Harry he asked them not to wear them, and I think he was definitely telling the truth there.

Perhaps Mad-Eye's was a spider than? Wow to think he was torturing the creature that his patronus might have turned out to be. Creepy!!

Perhaps Mad-Eye's was a spider than? Wow to think he was torturing the creature that his patronus might have turned out to be. Creepy!!
No ,I dont see Moody sharing traits with a spider.:no:
They are great catching bugs ,but no ,I dont know what it would be ,but definetly ,not a spider,

Perhaps Mad-Eye's was a spider than? Wow to think he was torturing the creature that his patronus might have turned out to be. Creepy!!

It was Crouch using Polyjuice that tortured the spider not Moody. I know Crouch said Dumbledore gave him permission to show fourth years the Unforgivable Curses, but do you think that he was making that up like when he said Dumbledore had given him orders to search snape's office?

I know,it too much to read the whole thread ,let me summarize,so far people have suggested a dog for Lupin,a dog for Neville,a dog for Fred and George,a dog for Hagrid, a dog for Bill,and then you ,a dog for Tonks.so I got to think ...no more dogs!!!:lol::lol:
:lol: Okay, I didn't even realise! I actually like the tiger cub idea better now, it's just something a bit different, but still suits her.

Okay, I didn't even realise! I actually like the tiger cub idea better now, it's just something a bit different, but still suits her.
I dont see her as a tiger,cub or not...but i do see your point,about the playfulness,I will have to think hers more.

Mad-Eye's should be an animal with several eyes, for obvious reasons

I dont think so. I think that May-Eye was able to cast a Patronus long before he lost his eye. Obviously he is a fierce and very brave person. He also seems to be a stickler for details and such since he follows plans so well. No ideas so far though.


Also, I really dont like the idea of Ginny's patronus changing to reflect Harry's. I think she is too free-willed for it to do that. Also, I really hope that their children have unique patronuses that fit their own personalities.

I really don't see Mad-Eye as a spider. :shrug: I think Mad-Eye's patronus would be something really tough and firece. A tiger, maybe...?

The reason I think Neville's is a lion is because it's a symbol of bravery. I know lions are actually very lazy, but James Potter's was a stag and he doesn't have actually stag qualities.

Okay, referming some of my thoughts, and changing a few as well:
Ludo Bagman~a snunk
There might be a better animal for it, but that seems quite a bit like him.
Amelia Bones~a crane
She's calm and careful, at least that's what I think.
Barty Crouch Sr.~a hyppogriff
He's prood to the point of insanity.
Mundungus Fletcher~a fly
His more often a pest than a help.
Olympe Maxime~a winged hourse
Feels like the right thing to me.
Quirinus Quirrell~a crow
They are cunning and a little tricksy.
Fred and George Weasley~foxes
I still hold to that, and that their patronuses are the same. You guys are probably right about a Patil twins having different ones though.
Percy Weasley~a ram
I liked this one.

I'm trying to think about a better animal for Molly Weasley.

I really don't see Mad-Eye as a spider. :shrug: I think Mad-Eye's patronus would be something really tough and firece. A tiger, maybe...?

I like that idea. It definitely suits him. Also, I got the idea that Mad-Eye likes spending time alone calculating ideas and plans. And he's fierce in battle, so a tiger seems very fitting. :)

I really don't see Mad-Eye as a spider. :shrug: I think Mad-Eye's patronus would be something really tough and firece. A tiger, maybe...?

I can't imagine Mad-Eye as a spider either. A tiger is possible, but I - for some reason - imagine a bear for Mad-Eye. Maybe it's because he has grizzled dark gray hair. :p

The bear was thought to possess diplomacy equal to its great strength and it is the emblem of ferocity in the protection of kindred. A bear is also a symbol of healing and personal health, strength and bravery. Bears are often in the arms of names that sound somewhat like the animal such as Baring and Barnes. The bear is usually muzzled but not always. Bears’ paws are also often found as crests or symbols on shields.

It's also considered a maternal animal, so that doesn't match Mad-Eye well. . . .

A fox would be great, too, IMO.

Overwhelmingly, cultural consensus on fox animal symbolism deals with:


cunning
strategy
quick-thinking
adaptability
cleverness
wisdom


Any ideas about what Tonks was before her Patronus changed? I like chameleon. :D

The reason I think Neville's is a lion is because it's a symbol of bravery. I know lions are actually very lazy, but James Potter's was a stag and he doesn't have actually stag qualities..

James doesn't have any stag qualities? :huh: I beg to differ.

Stag - Pride, independence, purification.

In addition, the stag's enemy is the serpent. Serpent = Voldemort, anyone . . . ?

I can't imagine Mad-Eye as a spider either. A tiger is possible, but I - for some reason - imagine a bear for Mad-Eye. Maybe it's because he has grizzled dark gray hair. :p

The bear was thought to possess diplomacy equal to its great strength and it is the emblem of ferocity in the protection of kindred. A bear is also a symbol of healing and personal health, strength and bravery. Bears are often in the arms of names that sound somewhat like the animal such as Baring and Barnes. The bear is usually muzzled but not always. Bears’ paws are also often found as crests or symbols on shields.

It's also considered a maternal animal, so that doesn't match Mad-Eye well. . . .

A fox would be great, too, IMO.

Overwhelmingly, cultural consensus on fox animal symbolism deals with:


cunning
strategy
quick-thinking
adaptability
cleverness
wisdom


Any ideas about what Tonks was before her Patronus changed? I like chameleon. :D



James doesn't have any stag qualities? :huh: I beg to differ.

Stag - Pride, independence, purification.

In addition, the stag's enemy is the serpent. Serpent = Voldemort, anyone . . . ?

We only know that James's Animagus form is a stag, right, and that Harry's Patronus is a stag as well. I think that Harry's Patronus is a stag mainly because of the qualities a stag symbolizes (except pride), much more than the obvious connection to James.

We only know that James's Animagus form is a stag, right, and that Harry's Patronus is a stag as well. I think that Harry's Patronus is a stag mainly because of the qualities a stag symbolizes (except pride), much more than the obvious connection to James.

I actually do think Harry had arrogance (another trait associated with stags), and JKR thinks so too. But Harry's Patronus is James because James is his "protector." Dumbledore even said that Prongs rode again in the end of PoA. It's pretty clear in the books that Harry's patronus took the stag form because his father was a stag. It would make sense, too, because that means that both Lily and James protected Harry in some way; for Lily was her sacrifice that protected Harry and for James it was his stag form.

I actually do think Harry had arrogance (another trait associated with stags), and JKR thinks so too. But Harry's Patronus is James because James is his "protector." Dumbledore even said that Prongs rode again in the end of PoA. It's pretty clear in the books that Harry's patronus took the stag form because his father was a stag. It would make sense, too, because that means that both Lily and James protected Harry in some way; for Lily was her sacrifice that protected Harry and for James it was his stag form.

I guess he probably did have arrogance, but not anywhere near what James had.

Any ideas about what Tonks was before her Patronus changed? I like chameleon.
The more I think about it,the chameleon is what fits best.Because of her metamorphagus qualities.

Now about Moody´s patronus,I do see him as a tiger due to the fact that he was in a way a loner.Tigers like loneliness, they don't live in groups.There is also the fact that they are great hunters,like Moody.They have a nose for preys,like all cat family members and they have good strategies for hunting,so it all fits Moody perfectly.
His hair is gray ,well there are white tigers,so I don't see the color of his hair being a problem here,IMO.

The more I think about it,the chameleon is what fits best.Because of her metamorphagus qualities.

Now about Moody´s patronus,I do see him as a tiger due to the fact that he was in a way a loner.Tigers like loneliness, they don't live in groups.There is also the fact that they are great hunters,like Moody.They have a nose for preys,like all cat family members and they have good strategies for hunting,so it all fits Moody perfectly.
His hair is gray ,well there are white tigers,so I don't see the color of his hair being a problem here,IMO.

I sort of like the idea of a tiger, but Moody doesn't seem like a complete loner. He can work well with others (to an extent) and is also extremely cautious. ("Don't put your wand there. Better wizards than you have lost buttocks because their wand ignited in their back pockets.")

I love the idea of Tonks' patronus, beatifically!! It completely satisfies the Metamorphmagus that she is, and I really can't think of anything better than that. :D

Thank you LoonyMagic! :D

I was looking around at a site that lists animal symbolism, and I fell across one that reminds me of Moody. I like the tiger idea as well, but I think this can also be a Patronus of his.

Wolverine- Revenge, Understanding Aggression, Protection Against Attackers, Multilevel Protection, Standing your Ground, Fierceness

I don't know about revenge, but all the other qualities remind me of Moody. :)

Thank you LoonyMagic! :D

I was looking around at a site that lists animal symbolism, and I fell across one that reminds me of Moody. I like the tiger idea as well, but I think this can also be a Patronus of his.

Wolverine- Revenge, Understanding Aggression, Protection Against Attackers, Multilevel Protection, Standing your Ground, Fierceness

I don't know about revenge, but all the other qualities remind me of Moody. :)


I agree with that more than a tiger. A wolverine just seems more Moodyish.

I like that idea. It definitely suits him. Also, I got the idea that Mad-Eye likes spending time alone calculating ideas and plans. And he's fierce in battle, so a tiger seems very fitting. :)
Thanks! :)



I was looking around at a site that lists animal symbolism, and I fell across one that reminds me of Moody. I like the tiger idea as well, but I think this can also be a Patronus of his.

Wolverine- Revenge, Understanding Aggression, Protection Against Attackers, Multilevel Protection, Standing your Ground, Fierceness

I don't know about revenge, but all the other qualities remind me of Moody. :)

Ooh, I like that idea, too! :tu: Those characteristics that you pointed out really seem to fit Moody. :agree: Great idea, beatifically!

Ron' patronus was a Jack Russell Terrier and not a bulldog as was suggested earlier.

Male bears are not really maternal Madeye could have had a male bear as his patronus. Since he was a solitary person a Tiger or other big solitary cat would suffice.

I really like the idea of a bear for Moody. Tough, battle worn and scarred.

I don't really know about Moody. I personally like the idea of a wolverine, but most of the other animals seemed to also symbolize Moody fairly well.
I know Hagrid can't (as of DH) make a Patronus, but if he could, what would it be? (Besides a giant :))

does george and fred would have same patronuses since they are twins??
i want may patronus to be a turtle.. hehe

does george and fred would have same patronuses since they are twins??
i want may patronus to be a turtle.. hehe

I don't think twins would have the same Patronus; they are only identical in appearance, not in personality. The Patil twins aren't in the same house so just because twins are identical doesn't necessarily mean they have to be exactly the same person.

I don't think twins would have the same Patronus; they are only identical in appearance, not in personality. The Patil twins aren't in the same house so just because twins are identical doesn't necessarily mean they have to be exactly the same person.

I agree. :) Their physical similarities doesn't mean they were that similar in personality. They did have a lot in common, but I saw some distinctions with who they were. Fred is the more humorous one and ends up being the more reckless and cruel (for lack of a better word) one of the Weasley twins. George is more sensible and a lot softer than Fred is. George was the one who immediately went to hug Mrs. Weasley after Arthur was attacked and he was the one that told Fred not to bribe/blackmail (forgot which one it was :whistle:) Ludo Bagman. I think that, because of the distinctions in their personality, they would likely get different animals as their Patronus.

I don't think twins would have the same Patronus; they are only identical in appearance, not in personality. The Patil twins aren't in the same house so just because twins are identical doesn't necessarily mean they have to be exactly the same person.


I dont think twins would necessrily have the same patronuses, but depending on their closeness and how similar their personalities were, it could be a possiblity. Fred and George would be good candidates for matching patronuses IMO. I think although they do have distinct personalities, they share such a close bond and are so important to eachother that their patronuses would just naturally reflect eachother.

A lot of you don't seem to know that chameleons do not change color as camouflage. The color changing is actually for comunication. Common mistake. Octopuses change color for camouflage though.

James doesn't have any stag qualities? :huh: I beg to differ.

Stag - Pride, independence, purification.

In addition, the stag's enemy is the serpent. Serpent = Voldemort, anyone . . . ?

I was talking about the qualities of the actual animal, not the symbolism.

The serpent the enemy of the stag? :hmm: That makes no sense to me.

A lot of you don't seem to know that chameleons do not change color as camouflage. The color changing is actually for comunication. Common mistake. Octopuses change color for camouflage though.



I was talking about the qualities of the actual animal, not the symbolism.

The serpent the enemy of the stag? :hmm: That makes no sense to me.

Hmm...Tonks doesn't happen to strike me as an octopus...
The serpent is the enemy of many animals, mainly because of religious ties (in certain cultures) with the serpent being the sign of the devil.

A lot of you don't seem to know that chameleons do not change color as camouflage. The color changing is actually for comunication. Common mistake. Octopuses change color for camouflage though.
well ,I didnt know that ,thankyou.:tu:
The thing is however, they do change color ,like Tonks does.
So I still find a chamaleon fitting for her.
I found this bit on wiki.
Different chameleon species are able to change different colors which can include pink, blue, red, orange, green, black, brown and yellow. Chameleons are naturally coloured for their surroundings as a camouflage. However, recent research has indicated that Chameleons may use colour changes as a method of communication, including to make themselves more attractive to potential mates.

All that info,strikes me as Tonks.:p

The serpent is the enemy of many animals, mainly because of religious ties with the serpent being the sign of the devil.
Only for Westerners, I guess mostly Christians. In Asia serpents can be good or bad. They are often magical animals and appear in many legends. To born on the Year of the Serpent is supposed to be auspicious.

Of course HP is set in England, so serpents are bad, Nagini is evil, and Voldemort looks more and more like a snake as he grows in Dark Powers - but please don't generalize "religious ties with the serpent being the sign of the devil". :)

well ,I didnt know that ,thankyou.:tu:
The thing is however, they do change color ,like Tonks does.
So I still find a chamaleon fitting for her.
I found this bit on wiki.
Different chameleon species are able to change different colors which can include pink, blue, red, orange, green, black, brown and yellow. Chameleons are naturally coloured for their surroundings as a camouflage. However, recent research has indicated that Chameleons may use colour changes as a method of communication, including to make themselves more attractive to potential mates.

All that info,strikes me as Tonks.:p
I didn't know that about chameleons either. One learns something every day. :)

I think a chameleon would be very fitting for Tonks as she's a MetamorphMagus. :)

Only for Westerners, I guess mostly Christians. In Asia serpents can be good or bad. They are often magical animals and appear in many legends. To born on the Year of the Serpent is supposed to be auspicious.

Of course HP is set in England, so serpents are bad, Nagini is evil, and Voldemort looks more and more like a snake as he grows in Dark Powers - but please don't generalize "religious ties with the serpent being the sign of the devil". :)




Sorry about that. It also goes in with Judaism too, by the way, but I'll go ahead and edit that post.

If I had a patronus, it would probably be a doe or a piglet. LOL.

I dont think twins would necessrily have the same patronuses, but depending on their closeness and how similar their personalities were, it could be a possiblity. Fred and George would be good candidates for matching patronuses IMO. I think although they do have distinct personalities, they share such a close bond and are so important to eachother that their patronuses would just naturally reflect eachother.

I agree on the matching patronuses.

However if they didn't have the same I like to think that the patronus of George changed shape and turned into the former patronus of Fred.

I agree on the matching patronuses.

However if they didn't have the same I like to think that the patronus of George changed shape and turned into the former patronus of Fred.

Definitely. If they werent the same, I'm almost sure that George's would have taken the shape of Fred's. It would have been a fitting tribute.

Definitely. If they werent the same, I'm almost sure that George's would have taken the shape of Fred's. It would have been a fitting tribute.
I agree. :) After all, Fred was a part of George. It would make sense for his patronus to change like that.

I agree on the matching patronuses.

However if they didn't have the same I like to think that the patronus of George changed shape and turned into the former patronus of Fred.

I really like that idea and it got me thinking that if James and Lily had lived, would Harry's Patronus still have been a stag? Because I think most of us are agreed that the main reason that it is a stag is due to the connection that he seeks to have had with James.

I really like that idea and it got me thinking that if James and Lily had lived, would Harry's Patronus still have been a stag? Because I think most of us are agreed that the main reason that it is a stag is due to the connection that he seeks to have had with James.

I think it would have. I think that if Harry had the connection with his father, even though he was dead, then he would almost certainly share a similar connection had James been alive.

I was talking about the qualities of the actual animal, not the symbolism.

Ooh, okay, I understand now. :)

The serpent the enemy of the stag? :hmm: That makes no sense to me.

Well, the stag is considered to be the symbol of Christ. The serpent is also looked at as the devil, so it would make sense that serpents would be the stag's enemy. Of course, not all cultures view the animals in this way, but it made a lot of sense when comparing it to the HP series.

to me, I used to think of Fred and George's patronuses as both being foxes... because foxes are clever and tricky (and sometimes red-furred)... but now, while I still think Fred's would be a Fox, I think that George's would be a cat... like the Cheshire cat from Alice in Wonderland...
and as for whether or not George's would change after DH... definitely. it might not be exactly the same as Fred's, but it'd be pretty close.

Fred and George's patronus : Blast-ended skrewts or maybe nifflers...Am not Sirius!:lol:

Fred and George's patronus : Blast-ended skrewts or maybe nifflers...Am not Sirius!:lol:

nonononono!! they would totally be crumple horned snorkacks!!!! :lol:

Do you think Fred & George's patronus''s could have been the same?

Do you think Fred & George's patronus''s could have been the same?

:lol: I can so see that happening. I want to say that they might have had some kind of dog or something. Now in George's case, and I am replying to what others have said, maybe his patronus is Fred. Fred was a huge part of his life. (well duh, they are twins) Now that would be cool.

I believe I read somewhere in some interview Rowling gave that each Patronus is unique to the individual. McGonagall and Umbridge both had cat Patronuses, but they would be different breeds. Sirius and Ron would both have dog Patronuses, but Sirius's would be a big dog and Ron's is a Jack Russell Terrier (I'm not sure we know Sirius's Patronus). Did anyone else hear this?

I kinda thought your Patronus was also your Animagus form (if you were an Animagus). James' Patronus and his Animagus form were stags. Sirius's Patronus would be a big black dog just like Padfoot. Makes sense to me.

I'm totally convinced the Twins had the same animal as Patronuses. Fox would be a good guess. Or some mischievous, playful animal.

What is Mr. Weasly's Patronus?
A weasel, I believe.

What are Fred and George Weasly's Patronuses?
No idea, probably little pesty monkeys.

What is Draco Malfoy's Patronus?
A ferret, obviously! :rolleyes:

Name anyone's Patronus, including yours! Thanks!
Mine would probably be a bloodhound (My favourite dog), or a weasel sort of animal.

Ron the Terrier. Hermione the Otter. Luna the Hare. Ginny the Horse..... I think that Patronuses and the people they correspond to is one of the most interesting elements of the series. However, given the number of characters, we are shown relatively few patronuses from different people. So this thread is to discuss what form the patronuses (or would it be patroni?) of some other characters would take. Draco, Moody, Lupin, Molly, Fred/George, Bill, Percy, Neville, Lucius, Narcissa, Bellatrix, Fleur, Cedric, Flitwick, Krum, Tonks' before it changed, Voldemort himself......the list goes on!!
I think that Lucius' would probably be a peacock, Neville's a lion, Draco's a ferret :p, and Voldemort's undoubtedly a snake. Apart from that I don't really know. Ideas?

I don't think Voldemort could ever truly produce a Patronus. He has no reason to avoid dementors, as he has an affinity for them. And besides, is there seriously a truly positive memory in his life that he could use to create one? He spent his entire life terrorizing people. There's nothing but death and destruction in his memories. Even the memory of being accepted to Hogwarts is marred by how Dumbledore puts him in his place. :D

The Marauders probably all produced patronuses mirroring their animagus forms, with Remus's being a regular wolf. Possibly, his biggest desire, short of being rid of his lycanthropy, would be to be a benign wolf that was not a bloodthirsty beast.

Moody's would be something like a tiger or a rhinoceros. Something big, and deadly, and tough.

Moody's would be something like a tiger or a rhinoceros. Something big, and deadly, and tough.

Yeah - I think his would be a bear or a really big dog

Do you think Fred & George would have the same Patronus?:hmm:

I thought Death Eaters didn't have any... Hmm, i wondered if i just imagined that tho... :hmm:

I could see Fleur having a graceful Persian cat or similar!

Cedric's Patronus would be something strong and loyal- maybe a German Shepherd?

And why do you think that Hermione's was an otter, or Ginny's a horse, or Ron a terrier? How do their personalities reflect on their Patronus?

Ron is funny- A terrier is a generally funny animal
Ginny is tough and beautiful- A horse is one of the strongest animals and one of the most beautiful.
I can't think of why Hermione's Patronus is an otter though- I really can't think of how her personality is similar to an otters
Any suggestions?

I think JK Rowling mentioned she loves otters and Hermione is supposed to be the character she's closest to.

Plus, Ron and his family live in a place called Ottery St. Catchpole... There might be a link there too. ;)

Do you think Fred & George would have the same Patronus?

Yes - that would be really funny! They are so alike and speak in sync. I think they would have a pair of weasels like their dad! (or hyenas - they travel in packs right?)

Yeah, sth smallish and cheeky. :lol:

I think Percy's patronus would be an owl. Owls are traditionally seen as quite bookish and proper, which reminds me of Percy

Cho's is a swan...
And Umbridge & McGonagall both have a cat...

Mc Gonnagal's is an egyptian cat, Molly's would be a hen, Draco's would be a ferret :lol:

Some ones I remember:

Arthur Weasley: Weasel
Kingsley Shacklebolt: Lynx
Seamus Finnigan: Fox
Umbridge and McGonagal: both cats