The Stargate Universe

This thread is to talk about the movie, series etc. involving Stargate.

That are
Stargate - The Movie (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0111282/)
Stargate - SG 1 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118480/)
Stargate Atlantis (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0374455/) (spin-off of SG 1)
Stargate Infinity (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Infinity) (cartoon series)
Stargate Universe (new spin-off which will start next year)This year in March ended the 10th and final season of Stargate SG1, what means that it is (was) the longest running Sci-Fi series in the USA.

Atlantis is still running at the moment and two new movies are planned.

Any other people here who like the series?

Stargate (the movie) is one of my ALL TIME favorite movies. As for the SG-1 series it was good until Richard Dean Anderson left. Atlantis is ok but just doesn't have the pull for me like SG-1 did. I like the Wraiths though.
Teal'c should never have grown out his hair. He looked...well, dumb with hair.

I love the Stargate series (with the exception of Atlantis -- no offense to fans of that show, it just isn't as good) :clap: :love:! I saw the movie and the series, Stargate Sg-1, both of them have good acting and humor and the costuming was pretty good as well.

Here's another Stargate fan! Interestingly, my least favorite incarnation of the universe (that I have seen) is the original movie, but I love SG-1 and think that Atlantis is pretty good overall--Ronan and Teyla kick butt, the Wraith are awesome villians, and Rodney's always good for a laugh. I'll acknowledge Weir and Sheppard are kinda stock characters, but they're okay, and I've got high hopes for the addition of Samantha Carter to Atlantis this season. I have never seen the cartoon, so I can't comment about it at all.

I don't like Atlantis much either, this whole new technology and Wraith are weird. The only people I like are McKay and Sheppard, those are at least funny. Weir isn't bad either.

But still nothing is better than SG 1. Such a shame that O'Neill left he was the best with his funny and sarcastic attitude, followed by Daniel. I love the series for their humor. There was a lot to laugh.

I don't like Atlantis much either, this whole new technology and Wraith are weird. The only people I like are McKay and Sheppard, those are at least funny. Weir isn't bad either.

I love Atlantis! I'm so excited to see how the how season 4 goes with the addition of Colonel Carter.

I really liked the original Stargate movie, but something that always bothered me when it was made into a TV show was the character of O'Neill. I like the TV O'Neill, but wasn't the character much darker in the movie? I don't understand why they changed that.

I love Atlantis! I'm so excited to see how the how season 4 goes with the addition of Colonel Carter.

I really liked the original Stargate movie, but something that always bothered me when it was made into a TV show was the character of O'Neill. I like the TV O'Neill, but wasn't the character much darker in the movie? I don't understand why they changed that.
I just imagined an O'Neill like in the movie during all the episodes ... horrible thought.

Russel played it OK, but I definitely prefer the funny O'Neill here.

I just imagined an O'Neill like in the movie during all the episodes ... horrible thought.

Russel played it OK, but I definitely prefer the funny O'Neill here.

I think Richard Dean Anderson's O'Neill plays much better for TV - and he's great. But as for the O'Neill in the movie (if I'm remembering it correctly) his son had accidentally shot and killed himself playing around with a gun in the house. His marriage was falling apart, he was really depressed - possibly suicidal - when getting the Stargate assignment. I admit I haven't watched too many SG1 episodes, but is any of that addressed in the series?

I think Richard Dean Anderson's O'Neill plays much better for TV - and he's great. But as for the O'Neill in the movie (if I'm remembering it correctly) his son had accidentally shot and killed himself playing around with a gun in the house. His marriage was falling apart, he was really depressed - possibly suicidal - when getting the Stargate assignment. I admit I haven't watched too many SG1 episodes, but is any of that addressed in the series?
I don't remember what was mentioned years ago, but his son definitely appeared in the series too, just another name. I think he was dead too there.

Yay!! Stargate fans! :D I love SG-1, its probably my favourite show. I didn't really like the movie that much, but the characters in SG-1 are fabulous. I was really disappointed when RDA left the show at the end of season 8, they managed to hold the show together but I really liked the original group from seasons 1-8. I think Atlantis is good, not great, but it still works. I don't like the addition of Carter to Atlantis, I love her but I really think she just belongs on SG-1. :lol:

What do you think of the whole substitutes of the main characters? Like Jonas for Daniel or Mitchell for O'Neill?

I liked Jonas so much, he was a great addition and so naive at times. Cameron got better and better, but still Jack can't be replaced that easily.

I liked Jonas, overall. He wasn't a Daniel clone, which I think would have been a mistake had they gone that route. That's probably why I could accept him--he served some of the same function as Daniel ("hey, here's an inscription in ancient/Go'auld/obscure-ese, and it tells all about how we're going to solve the conflict in this episode.") but he had his own personality, his own outlook on life, and a certain appealing "I'm visiting other planets and having adventures, how cool is that!" attitude. I'll admit I was less than thrilled with the whole idea of making Jonas into some kind of advanced variety of human with superior skills, but I guess it was necessary to explain why he could assimilate himself so easily into SG-1. Plus, it doesn't hurt that Corin Nemec is easy on the eyes ;).

As for Mitchell, here's a little harder of a substitution--he's a little more O'Neill-y at times, like they're trying to make the audience believe that this is still O'Neill, just younger and with a southern accent. The problem with that is that O'Neill was just such a fantastic character, there can be no duplication! When he's allowed to be Cam Mitchell more than O'Neill v.2, I like him better. Overall, I still liked SG-1 when Cam came on board, but I definitely prefer O'Neill in the role as team leader. (Of course, Ben Browder is also nice to look at, so that helps the overall acceptance of Cam, but then Richard Dean Anderson was very handsome in an older-guy kind of way, so I guess that's a draw. :))

I am a Stargate nerd. That being said, I don't think it's particularly good. I just like it. ;) I like O'Neill, but I must say that my favorite season by far was season 10, when Vala and Cam are there, partly because I'm also a fan of Farscape, but Vala just rocks on her own. Ba'al is the best villain, and he does most of his good stuff in that last season (except for one of his best lines, of course: "I am a god. Gods are all-knowing.") I'm really looking forward to the TV-movies. Atlantis is held up almost entirely by Rodney, although season 4 looks promising.

I loved SG1. Atlantis is okay, but not as good IMO.

I really liked the original Stargate movie, but something that always bothered me when it was made into a TV show was the character of O'Neill. I like the TV O'Neill, but wasn't the character much darker in the movie? I don't understand why they changed that.

In one of the Special Features for the series where there was a featurette on O'Neill/Richard Dean Anderson, he acknowledged that there was a major difference in the way that he and Kurt Russel played the character. The way that he reasoned it out for himself was that after being such a hard character in the movie, and being in such a hard place because his son had recently died, O'Neill sort or made a conscious effort not to go back to that dark place, but to try to get on with living. That's why he jokes so much, especially when it's innapropriate.
I don't think that made much sense :huh:

OH MY GOD, I love Stargate SG-1, I got into it one time after school (it comes on when I get home from school...well duh) and I loved it, so I contnued to watch it, it was re-runs though, halfway through the 1st or 2nd season, now I want to get all the seasons on DVD if I can find them, Thank-you for reminding me:)

I saw the movie a couple of months ago, and have slowly worked my way through the first season. I love this series. It is on par with my other favorite series, 24.

I just finished season one this afternoon. I can't wait to get season 2, and can't wait to get all of the DVD's for this.

I definetely think that RDA is a much better Colonel O'Neill than Kurt Russell. I just liked the way he played the character better.

Haven't really seen Atlantis. I caught 10 minutes this afternoon, and couldn't really get into it. I'll have to watch it when I get there, and see what I think of it then.

There don't seem to be many fans of the Stargate universe here but I'm one i just love the way they mix our history with life out there! I also love the humour, some of the lines between Jack/Teal'c, Jack/Daniel were soo funny!! I don't find Atlantis as good it's got potential but could do with more humour. I know Rodney's good but it might change now trhat Sam's gone there asd the leader! Never watched the cartoon series, but am looking forward to the 2SG1 movies being relased on DVD in the UK!

OMG!! I love Stargate!! It has to be the best show ever!! :D
I had watched SG1 before the movie so i thought RDA was way better than whoever did the other one - no offence.
Vala has to be my totally favorite character!! She is SO funny!! (even though shes in it for like, 1 season and a bit, but still!)
Ooh! And Daniel, Cam, (Jonas wasn't bad either :love: but, i meen, what happened to him???)Ohh! and John from Atlantis!!
okay...just had to say that...

I just saw an episode of it (SG-1) recently.... it was pretty funny... especially the ending. Teal'C was planning on seeing a play, and he definitely wasn't expecting The Vagina Monlogues :rotfl:. That part of the episode had me cracking up :lol:.

The character-driven episodes are the best of the Stargate franchise. Unfortunately, the producers often see it differently, and think what we're really after is an 'epic' space battles, which can't be achieved simply through the addition of a choir of angels.

I thought Atlantis actually had more potential because it was not as tied to the so-called "Stargate mythology". Unfortunately the wraith are a pretty meager enemy, and the ancients have to be the least interesting alien race in science fiction history--And they do tend to focus on both of these groups quite much on the show, but never really seem to add any depth to them.

Did anyone think Atlantis was getting a lot better toward the end of season 4? It was like they had totally changed their directing style. At season 5, though, everything went back to normal, in my opinion.

I just saw (part of) the Stargate Movie, The Ark of Truth... and it was BAD. The acting was phoned in and the plot/storyline was just terrible.

For any other fellow Stargate fans out there... AVOID this movie, it's a mockery (at least in my opinion) of the Stargate franchise.

Seasons 1-8 of SG1 were the best years IMO. I could never really like Mitchell and I drifted away from SG1 after he came in. Atlantis was okay, but it never really found it's feet and it felt like too many of the storylines had been done before.
Stargate Universe looks interesting... but the characters seem cliched from what I have read of them.

yea atlantis did start out with a bang but i felt like a lot of episodes in the first season were redos of things we had seen in sg-1 when they finally started branching out it gots better. but right around the time carson beckett was killed things got dicey for atlantis. but they started picking it back up in season 4 and im so glad they brought beckett back even if it is just from time to time.

As for ark of truth, i agree a little disappointing but it was still a decent movie. I think continuum was quite a bit better partly due to the return of jack o'neill. and i agree seasons 1-8 of sg-1 were probably the best with maybe the exception of i think season 5 where daniel ascended and then later came back with no memory. Daniel should have never gone away, Jonas quinn although a decent character was by no means a replacement for Daniel.

I found the coolest Stargate smilies:

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-stargate001.gif (http://www.thescifiworld.net/smilies.htm)

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-stargate003.gif (http://www.thescifiworld.net/smilies.htm)

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-stargate011.gif (http://www.thescifiworld.net/smilies.htm)

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-stargate018.gif (http://www.thescifiworld.net/smilies.htm)

*is pleased with self* :D

Haha i love the smilies....

Anyone watch the series finale for atlantis? I expected a little more from them than the standard wraith total domination scheme but i think overall it was a fairly good wrap up to the series. Now here's hoping the atlantis movies are decent.

I love Atlantis! I'm so excited to see how the how season 4 goes with the addition of Colonel Carter.

I really liked the original Stargate movie, but something that always bothered me when it was made into a TV show was the character of O'Neill. I like the TV O'Neill, but wasn't the character much darker in the movie? I don't understand why they changed that.

Richard Dean Anderson wouldn't do it unless he could inject some of his humor into it.

I love Atlantis! I'm so excited to see how the how season 4 goes with the addition of Colonel Carter.

I really liked the original Stargate movie, but something that always bothered me when it was made into a TV show was the character of O'Neill. I like the TV O'Neill, but wasn't the character much darker in the movie? I don't understand why they changed that.

Richard Dean Anderson wouldn't do it unless he could inject some of his humor into it.

That and if you remember there is quite a bit of time in between the movie and the series. In the movie that O'neill was the guy grieving the death of his son and upset about losing his wife because of it, he blamed himself for the whole thing (although im not sure this was explained in the movie, but was later in the series) The oneill in the series has had quite a bit of time to heal and move on (not sure how much time passed but enough for a group of soldiers to be sitting in a room playing cards guarding a rather large object under a sheet and not know what it was.) Point being the character has evolved from the time the movie took place to the time the series started. And even at the beginning of the series Jack O'neill is quite cynical if you remember, he continually spouts the im not coming im retired line.

That and if you remember there is quite a bit of time in between the movie and the series. In the movie that O'neill was the guy grieving the death of his son and upset about losing his wife because of it, he blamed himself for the whole thing (although im not sure this was explained in the movie, but was later in the series) The oneill in the series has had quite a bit of time to heal and move on (not sure how much time passed but enough for a group of soldiers to be sitting in a room playing cards guarding a rather large object under a sheet and not know what it was.) Point being the character has evolved from the time the movie took place to the time the series started. And even at the beginning of the series Jack O'neill is quite cynical if you remember, he continually spouts the im not coming im retired line.

He didn't lose his wife she left him because of charlie shooting himself with O'Neill's gun, but she still talks to him.And there's a year between the movie and the series.

He didn't lose his wife she left him because of charlie shooting himself with O'Neill's gun, but she still talks to him.And there's a year between the movie and the series.


yes thats what i meant by lost his wife. She didnt die but she didnt really want to have anything to do with him either.

Did anyone see Michael Shanks on Burn Notice? on USA? He was sooo good as Victor, the crazy evil burned spy. loved it.

http://www.michaelshanks-online.com/images/bnotice/bn206_054.jpg

aww i dont watch burn notice but i like michael shanks... rumor has it he may appear on the pilot of stargate universe, but i havent heard a whole lot about the show yet... I wish they woulda just continued atlantis and skipped the new series, however the new idea has some potential im just hoping they find decent actors and crank up the creativity.

aww i dont watch burn notice but i like michael shanks... rumor has it he may appear on the pilot of stargate universe, but i havent heard a whole lot about the show yet... I wish they woulda just continued atlantis and skipped the new series, however the new idea has some potential im just hoping they find decent actors and crank up the creativity.
Agreed. That's why I avoided Atlantis (no offense to any fans of it). I just didn't think it was that well acted. But I did like the head guy from it (the actor from Star Trek: Voyager who played The Doctor :D).

Agreed. That's why I avoided Atlantis (no offense to any fans of it). I just didn't think it was that well acted. But I did like the head guy from it (the actor from Star Trek: Voyager who played The Doctor :D).

you talking about the guy who plays woolsey? i really hated his charater at first, well because you are supposed to hate the guy, but he started to grow on me as time went on, then he just turned into a weak character, but i like the actor.

you talking about the guy who plays woolsey? i really hated his charater at first, well because you are supposed to hate the guy, but he started to grow on me as time went on, then he just turned into a weak character, but i like the actor.
Maybe. Well that stinks... I hate when writers go and make characters that way.

Woolsey wasn't that bad, and believe me that's hard for me to say, I'll never forgive him for the events of the "Shroud" but like he says in the second episode, he lives his life by a set of rules, if he doesn't have those what does he have? of course John has a witty reply. "Welcome to Atlantis." :lol:

Woolsey wasn't that bad, and believe me that's hard for me to say, I'll never forgive him for the events of the "Shroud" but like he says in the second episode, he lives his life by a set of rules, if he doesn't have those what does he have? of course John has a witty reply. "Welcome to Atlantis." :lol:
Ah I see -- guess I'll have to check it out sometime then. Just for him though :p ;).

But other than that though, I've been rather burnt out by Stargate... I'm no longer nearly as much of a fan as I used to be. I started being a fan, once the X-Files was winding down.

I totally get that. and its cool you grow out of things, like for awhile I grew out of HP til I came back here and started talking to fans again.

Woolsey wasn't that bad, and believe me that's hard for me to say, I'll never forgive him for the events of the "Shroud" but like he says in the second episode, he lives his life by a set of rules, if he doesn't have those what does he have? of course John has a witty reply. "Welcome to Atlantis." :lol:

haha gotta love john and his sarcasm, at times he really gives O'neill (with two l's :p ) a run for his money :p

I totally get that. and its cool you grow out of things, like for awhile I grew out of HP til I came back here and started talking to fans again.
Yep so true there... for me -- I haven't grown out of HP... and I still have fun on here :).

But for Stargate... not so much burnout as just downright disappointment. I had expected so much more from the actors themselves... it was just really sad.

But I had the reverse happen with the last X-Files movie -- the actors did a really good job there and I couldn't be prouder of them :).

Yep so true there... for me -- I haven't grown out of HP... and I still have fun on here :).

But for Stargate... not so much burnout as just downright disappointment. I had expected so much more from the actors themselves... it was just really sad.

But I had the reverse happen with the last X-Files movie -- the actors did a really good job there and I couldn't be prouder of them :).

actually i was looking at the cast for stagate universe and they have some pretty decently big names they are bringing in for this. Im a bit shocked cause they usually go for the no names. Granted big names dont necessarily mean a good show, but ill probably tune in to see what its all about. But i wont hold out and expect something spectacular.

actually i was looking at the cast for stagate universe and they have some pretty decently big names they are bringing in for this. Im a bit shocked cause they usually go for the no names. Granted big names dont necessarily mean a good show, but ill probably tune in to see what its all about. But i wont hold out and expect something spectacular.
That's nice to know... but I wouldn't expect anything though. It's best not to hold out for that.

Sci-fi has the sneak peek at Universe that played during Battlestar.

http://www.scifi.com/universe/

I'm looking forward to seeing Robert Carlyle, he's one of my favourite actors.

As far as Atlantis goes, I've never found it nearly as engaging as SG1.

I saw the sneak peak for Universe during the series finale of Battlestar Galactica and I may tune in. I just hope I can stomach it, unlike SG-1 and Atlantis.

I'm looking forward to seeing Robert Carlyle, he's one of my favourite actors.

As far as Atlantis goes, I've never found it nearly as engaging as SG1.

I like both show, SG-1 little more, you know 51% / 49%. I hope SGU can live up to it. I will be tuning in. It a little off topic, but I hope Sanctuary (amanda tapping's show) will have the 10 o' clock spot again.

I saw the sneak peak for Universe during the series finale of Battlestar Galactica and I may tune in. I just hope I can stomach it, unlike SG-1 and Atlantis.

Why don't you like SG1 or Atlantis?

Why don't you like SG1 or Atlantis?
I've only seen ten episodes of each, the first ten episodes. I found it boring. Usually if a show doesn't grab me in the pilot episode + a few more, I don't give it a chance. But I went out of my way for SG-1 and Atlantis. After watching the first ten episodes for each show, I wasn't hooked.

I've only seen ten episodes of each, the first ten episodes. I found it boring. Usually if a show doesn't grab me in the pilot episode + a few more, I don't give it a chance. But I went out of my way for SG-1 and Atlantis. After watching the first ten episodes for each show, I wasn't hooked.

I'm sorry but you can't judge shows like these in 10 shows, first seasons maybe, but the first few episodes are about trying to find out what the show is gonna be, who the character are. later seasons of both get really good.

I'm sorry but you can't judge shows like these in 10 shows, first seasons maybe, but the first few episodes are about trying to find out what the show is gonna be, who the character are. later seasons of both get really good.
Says who? Who says I can't do that? I found the twenty episodes I watched to be boring.

that's fine, but you've missed some of the best episodes.

I've only seen ten episodes of each, the first ten episodes. I found it boring. Usually if a show doesn't grab me in the pilot episode + a few more, I don't give it a chance. But I went out of my way for SG-1 and Atlantis. After watching the first ten episodes for each show, I wasn't hooked.

Fair enough :) Are you a SciFi fan?

Fair enough :) Are you a SciFi fan?
Somewhat. I prefer serious, dark science fiction, like the Battlestar Galactica re-imagining.

Druid, what's you favorite episode of SG-1?

I love Window of Opportunity for it's humour.

I also like The Torment of Tantalus, The Fifth Race, Meridian, The Nox, 1969, A Hundred Days, The Tok'ra.

As you can see, most of them are from the earlier seasons :) What about you?

1969 is up there, Window of Opportunity is timeless, Fallen, Threads, for Daniel yumminess :D Abyss, Lifeboat, The Shroud, Wormhole X-treme, 200. I like a bit of every season.

1969 is up there, Window of Opportunity is timeless, Fallen, Threads, for Daniel yumminess :D Abyss, Lifeboat, The Shroud, Wormhole X-treme, 200. I like a bit of every season.

I forgot about Lifeboat, that's a great episode :tu:

And Wormhole X-treme is hilarious :lol:

Lifeboat is the episode I fell in love with Michael Shanks. I mean 1 or 2 voices in the head and being them forward is hard, but he did 7! my word. That's acting. :tu:

I'm looking forward to seeing Robert Carlyle, he's one of my favourite actors.

As far as Atlantis goes, I've never found it nearly as engaging as SG1.

yes when he was on the 24 movie he was awesome i think he will be good for a stargate show.

Yes atlantis in the beginning seemed a lot like redone episodes of sg1 with different actors at times but it definitely evolved into something much better. I just hope SGU comes up with a good villian, thats usually what makes or breaks the show.

As for Sg-1 wow its so hard to choose my favorite episodes.... I own them all, but i think a couple of my favorites (and im forgetting episode names) are what i like to call the fruitloops episode (cause he's always eating fruitloops), where jack is caught in a time loop (kinda like groundhog day) and by the end of the espisode he stops caring about getting in trouble and kisses carter.

My other favorite is the one where Michael Welch (the same actor who plays Mike newton in trilight) plays the younger cloned version of O'neill, OMG he did an amazing job mimicking jack's sarcasm and mannerisms, so funny.

As for Sg-1 wow its so hard to choose my favorite episodes.... I own them all, but i think a couple of my favorites (and im forgetting episode names) are what i like to call the fruitloops episode (cause he's always eating fruitloops), where jack is caught in a time loop (kinda like groundhog day) and by the end of the espisode he stops caring about getting in trouble and kisses carter.


That one is Window of Opportunity. I love when Jack plays golf through the stargate :lol:

That one is Window of Opportunity. I love when Jack plays golf through the stargate :lol:

haha yes definitely one of the classic jack moments.... oo there are so many

I think one of my favorite daniel moments was when they were in the russian sub and he makes some kind of comment about the only thing the swiss make well is watches and then he continues with man now im starting to sound like jack. ahh its so wonderful when jacks sarcasm rubs off on everyone else.

That's Small Victories, right?

ok, what is your favorite Atlantis episode?

actually it was an episode in season 4 called watgergate
here's the exact quote....
Dr. Svetlana Markov: If you're implying that everything Russian-made is of poor quality, actually, the sub is Swiss.
Daniel: So it occasionally catches fire but they keep perfect time?
[pause]
Daniel: Sorry. I think I've been hanging around Jack O'Neill too much.

hmm even tougher call, i think Sateda was probably one of my more favorite episodes, but i also really liked the pilot and i think season 3 was probably the best season. Oh and any episode where shephard names a wraith, "ok we will just call you steve" Ahh classic... how about you whats your favorite?

I know I'm in the minority, but I wasn't a Weir fan, so when Carter took over I was so happy, Tabula Rasa was a good one, plus I just love saying it. :lol: Trio was funny, and the relationship that starts between Keller and McKay.

I know I'm in the minority, but I wasn't a Weir fan, so when Carter took over I was so happy, Tabula Rasa was a good one, plus I just love saying it. :lol: Trio was funny, and the relationship that starts between Keller and McKay.

yea i was kinda indifferent to weir i was a little sad to see her go but i think i like carter in charge much better. Mckay is probably one of the best stargate characters, arrogant, sarcastic, smart, funny and nerdy all rolled into one. Ill miss his interactions with others esp carter and john. And i liked keller but im sorry i was so unbelievably upset when they killed off dr. beckett, im glad they found a way to bring him back from time to time, even if it was a bit contrived.

Yeah seeing Beckett go was sad, I thought bringing him back as a clone was a really cool idea.

My favorite episode is The Fifth Race. Once I get season two, I'm watching that first.
I also love the first episode of season two. Bra'tac is talking about going down to blow something up, and O'neill just drops a grenade.

I can't wait for SGU. At least I'll get to watch it while its going on. Didn't feel like watching Atlantis, since I'm still slowly working through SG1. I'm about halfway through season 7 right now.

My favorite episode is The Fifth Race. Once I get season two, I'm watching that first.
I also love the first episode of season two. Bra'tac is talking about going down to blow something up, and O'neill just drops a grenade.

I can't wait for SGU. At least I'll get to watch it while its going on. Didn't feel like watching Atlantis, since I'm still slowly working through SG1. I'm about halfway through season 7 right now.

I did that too.

This is a question I got from one of the other threads, If you could have any prop from Stargate what would you want?

I want the Stargate. Don't know where I'd put it. It would look cool somewhere.

I think everyone wants the gate. hahaha. In addition to the gate 'cause I'd love to have it too, I'd want a staff weapon, a real working zat (one that pops up and opens the end) and maybe the crystal skull.

I wouldn't mind a death glider. It would be fun to get around in that.

oo tough call so many fun toys, definitely would love a working star gate, Zat guns are the best for sure, and the f 302's are really sweet, a sodan cloaking device might be fun to play with.

You know, what I want is to hit golf balls through the Stargate. Take that Tiger!

You know, what I want is to hit golf balls through the Stargate. Take that Tiger!

haha like jack?? that was a funny episode.... Id actually like to travel through it and see new worlds meet new species... although im not sure im up for meeting the hostile ones :p i hope in stargate universe we get to meet the long anticipated and somewhat jokefied (yea its a word i swear :p ) furlings.....

SG-1 already met them. season 10 episode 200.

SG-1 already met them. season 10 episode 200.

hrm why do i not remember that... how'd the fit in again?

I think everyone wants the gate. hahaha. In addition to the gate 'cause I'd love to have it too, I'd want a staff weapon, a real working zat (one that pops up and opens the end) and maybe the crystal skull.
Heck yea I'd want a Stargate... it would be awesome -- but a staff weapon would be cool as well ;) :).

hrm why do i not remember that... how'd the fit in again?

It was a bit of a joke, the put it in as part of the "previously on" bit.

It was a bit of a joke, the put it in as part of the "previously on" bit.

right, i dont count that, i assumed that was a complete joke and making fun of the fact that we had never met them, i thought those were wormhole extreme's interpretation of the furlings, not the actual race.... So i dont consider that actually meeting them.

I just found out that they are showing both Stargate movies on SciFi. I plan on missing The Ark of Truth... but I might check out Continuum -- just for the heck of it...

You bring up another question, Fawks.

Which movie is better?

Stargate (the Orginal)
Stagate: Ark of Truth
Stargate: Continuum

and there is serious talk of a two movies(SG-1 and an Atlantis one), so what you have to have in that movie to make it the best movie ever.

Well I really can't say which one I like the best since the only one Ive seen from start to end is the original movie but I have to say I probably like that movie even over the whole series. Don't get me wrong, I love the series but I really loved how it got into the Egyptian mythology. I think as the series went on much of the history got degraded and the show people much more character driven rather then plot and as previously mentioned the mythology. From what I understand, the newer movies are much like long episodes pretty much.

Please, dont take it that I dont, or wouldn't care for them because I know I would. I just like the original concept better.

You bring up another question, Fawks.

Which movie is better?

Stargate (the Orginal)
Stagate: Ark of Truth
Stargate: Continuum

and there is serious talk of a two movies(SG-1 and an Atlantis one), so what you have to have in that movie to make it the best movie ever.
Personally I liked the original Stargate movie the best. It had some good acting in it. The Ark of Truth -- at least in my opinion did not. The only good acting that I saw in it was from the secondary actors. It just looked like the main ones didn't even want to even try to act. It was a big disappointment :sigh:.

Better acting for one thing -- along with a better storyline and better writing. Those were the three big things that I noticed that were missing from the Ark of Truth. At first it seemed interesting... with the bad guys and what not... but as it went on -- I got less interested... and honestly did NOT care about the characters one bit. This coming from someone who gave a dang back in the day -- it was really a real come down for me.

It will take a miracle to give it a chance again -- and only working on those three things would help in that area.

I haven't seen Ark of Truth or Continuum, and I don't think that I will either.

I dont think you can beat the original, but if you are talking true series movies, then id say continuum. I was never into the whole Ori plotline to me thats where the show kinda went down hill, you had the ultimate enemy that seemed impossible to beat, the Go'auld and then you start finally finding their weakness and using it against them and then oh wait we dont have an enemy anymore so we need something more daunting enter the ori who control everything and feed off the number of followers they have... it just seemed a bit contrived to me, not to mention a bit similar to the go'auld in concept. But i did enjoy the mixing in of arthurian legend, but i missed the mythology end that stargate was originally built around.

I dont think you can beat the original, but if you are talking true series movies, then id say continuum. I was never into the whole Ori plotline to me thats where the show kinda went down hill, you had the ultimate enemy that seemed impossible to beat, the Go'auld and then you start finally finding their weakness and using it against them and then oh wait we dont have an enemy anymore so we need something more daunting enter the ori who control everything and feed off the number of followers they have... it just seemed a bit contrived to me, not to mention a bit similar to the go'auld in concept. But i did enjoy the mixing in of arthurian legend, but i missed the mythology end that stargate was originally built around.
Ah I see. Hmm... then I guess I'll check it out then. But I won't have any real high expectations for it though. Not a really big fan of contrived stuff myself.

Ah I see. Hmm... then I guess I'll check it out then. But I won't have any real high expectations for it though. Not a really big fan of contrived stuff myself.

yes if you go in with few expectations then you wont be disappointed, but continuum was more of the old gang chasing go'auld so it is definitely worth a look.

yes if you go in with few expectations then you wont be disappointed, but continuum was more of the old gang chasing go'auld so it is definitely worth a look.
Awesome, gotta love that :). Anything but that other one -- *shudders*. Even the jokes weren't funny... :whistle:

And that's basically what I did with I Want to Believe... few expectations, and then I came out smiling :).

I guess that's the best thing to do sometimes.

*shakes head* you guys are nuts. :lol: I loved AoT. I thought it had all the things that Stargate great but with the new enemy. I loved the going into enemy territory, the replicators I could have done without. but seeing the defeat of the Ori, was great. Now Continuum was a little dissapointing but still a good old SG-1 story. The scene with all the system lords, was so cool. It was great to see Qutesh in action too, they was always talk on the series about it but to see it was fun.

*shakes head* you guys are nuts. :lol: I loved AoT. I thought it had all the things that Stargate great but with the new enemy. I loved the going into enemy territory, the replicators I could have done without. but seeing the defeat of the Ori, was great. Now Continuum was a little dissapointing but still a good old SG-1 story. The scene with all the system lords, was so cool. It was great to see Qutesh in action too, they was always talk on the series about it but to see it was fun.
:lol: Hey now... to each their own ya' know :p. I just couldn't get into it. The new enemy seemed to be interesting... but the acting overall just made the experience not really worth it to me.

I was joking, everyone has a valid opinion, while some parts to lag, its still a good movie, to me anyway, but the pest part is listening to the audio tracks (yes I know I'm weird) The spanish one is the best the woman they got to do the voice-over for Claudia.

I was joking, everyone has a valid opinion, while some parts to lag, its still a good movie, to me anyway, but the pest part is listening to the audio tracks (yes I know I'm weird) The spanish one is the best the woman they got to do the voice-over for Claudia.
Ah I see... thanks for clearing that up :). Well that's cool -- I'm glad that you enjoyed it. I wish that I could have too... but I just couldn't... it just really disappointed me...

Edit: I just watched some of Stargate: Continuum... it's pretty good so far. The acting is much better and the storyline is pretty interesting...

There is serious talk of a two movies(an SG-1 and an Atlantis one), so what you have to have in that movie to make it the best movie ever?

1) Cool bad buy
2) Way cool ships
3) Better acting
4) Great storyline
5) More Bad guys
6) the team working together, not off on 2 different things

There is serious talk of a two movies(an SG-1 and an Atlantis one), so what you have to have in that movie to make it the best movie ever?

1) Cool bad buy
2) Way cool ships
3) Better acting
4) Great storyline
5) More Bad guys
6) the team working together, not off on 2 different things

I would have to agree with all those,

for sg1 - you have to have carter, oneill, daniel, teal'c, and possibly vala. lots of sarcasm and funny moments, and lots of shocking battles and wow how are they ever going to get out of this moments.

for atlantis - must have characters teyla, dr. beckett, shephard, rodney, ronan, keller and maybe woolsey. I really wish theyd go back to Lt. Aiden Ford's story where he was ramping up on the wraith drug, and ran off again. I think thatd make for a fun movie, running into him and maybe trying to save him, or work with him again who knows.

I would have to agree with all those,

for sg1 - you have to have carter, oneill, daniel, teal'c, and possibly vala. lots of sarcasm and funny moments, and lots of shocking battles and wow how are they ever going to get out of this moments.

for atlantis - must have characters teyla, dr. beckett, shephard, rodney, ronan, keller and maybe woolsey. I really wish theyd go back to Lt. Aiden Ford's story where he was ramping up on the wraith drug, and ran off again. I think thatd make for a fun movie, running into him and maybe trying to save him, or work with him again who knows.
Definite agree there about sg1. All of that would be just great.

There is serious talk of a two movies(an SG-1 and an Atlantis one), so what you have to have in that movie to make it the best movie ever?

1) Cool bad buy
2) Way cool ships
3) Better acting
4) Great storyline
5) More Bad guys
6) the team working together, not off on 2 different things
I agree with all of the above :). All of that would be nice to see in any future Stargate movies. And would most certainly help to bring in a bigger audience.

For an SG-1 movie, you have to have RDA in it in a big way.

I really don't understand why a lot of people didn't enjoy season 9 of SG-1. I honestly think the Ori are kinda cool bad guys. And I really thought Ben Browder was excellant as Cam Mitchell, and he was a decent replacement for RDA.

I still have season 10 to watch of SG-1, but have started season 1 of Atlantis. So far it is really good. "I'm thinking of a turkey sandwich". That was awesome!:lol:

As far as movies go, I thought Continuum was the best of the three. I like the original, but really thought the series was so much better than it. AoT I'm not too sure on, since I watched it before getting to season 9.

AoT I'm not too sure on, since I watched it before getting to season 9.

For Shame!! :lol: just kidding. I was watching season 9 and season 2 (atlantis) when I got into the show. so I can't say anthing to spoiling yourself, but yeah it does help to watch 9 & 10 before AoT, but there is that special feature on the DVD, that shows all the important stuff that's happened.

For an SG-1 movie, you have to have RDA in it in a big way.

I really don't understand why a lot of people didn't enjoy season 9 of SG-1. I honestly think the Ori are kinda cool bad guys. And I really thought Ben Browder was excellant as Cam Mitchell, and he was a decent replacement for RDA.

I still have season 10 to watch of SG-1, but have started season 1 of Atlantis. So far it is really good. "I'm thinking of a turkey sandwich". That was awesome!:lol:

As far as movies go, I thought Continuum was the best of the three. I like the original, but really thought the series was so much better than it. AoT I'm not too sure on, since I watched it before getting to season 9.
Yep you do.

Ah...

There's a third one? I haven't seen it yet... I've only seen parts of Continuum myself... but it's certainly better than the Ark of Truth... thank god.

Agreed there. The series beats the movies by a mile.

I dont think the third one has come out yet and i think its centered around atlantis not Sg-1 but i could be wrong.

I dont think the third one has come out yet and i think its centered around atlantis not Sg-1 but i could be wrong.
Ah I see... well if it hasn't come out yet... then I hope for any Atlantis fans out there -- that it'll be a good movie.

Ah I see... well if it hasn't come out yet... then I hope for any Atlantis fans out there -- that it'll be a good movie.

As far as I can tell, the Stargate Atlantis movie is tentatively titled "Extinction", though that is unofficial information from what I understand. But the producers have announced that they have completed the script for the movie and should begin production very soon. Can't wait. :D

I am fairly certain they are working on ideas for another SG-1 movie as well, though I have no idea how far along they are with it.

I was including the first Stargate in the movie discussion. My bad.

It is true that the working title for an Atlantis movie is Extinction. I know they are also trying to come up with an SG-1 movie as well. From what I've read, it is going to be more on Jack O'Neill, which should be loads of fun!

I was including the first Stargate in the movie discussion. My bad.

It is true that the working title for an Atlantis movie is Extinction. I know they are also trying to come up with an SG-1 movie as well. From what I've read, it is going to be more on Jack O'Neill, which should be loads of fun!
Ah :lol:...

Interesting... well that would be good. Just as long as the actors are there -- if you know what I mean :whistle: -- and not just phoning in their parts. I really hate to see that in movies. It tends to take me out of the film itself. Makes the experience one not really worth going through.

Has anyone seen the Universe trailer that showed at Comic-con last week? I think it looks very promising. What do you all think?

wow i was so excited after the trailer i saw on SYFY a couple of weeks back now seeing the comic con trailer i cant contain my excitement AHHH is it October yet??? I find it interesting that stargate universe is being taken in a much darker direction but i think it will be an amazing ride... they appear to have a great cast. Lost of television favorites, mixed with some interesting new people. Should be a very entertaining show

Has anyone seen the Universe trailer that showed at Comic-con last week? I think it looks very promising. What do you all think?
No I haven't... do you have a link to it -- if it's on Youtube or something? I'd like to catch it -- just for the heck of it...

No I haven't... do you have a link to it -- if it's on Youtube or something? I'd like to catch it -- just for the heck of it...

Here is the one i watched http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbBhvpFqUoo

Here is the one i watched http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbBhvpFqUoo
Thanks Space :). *takes time to watch it*

I just saw it -- it looks like it'll be pretty interesting...

Michael Shanks does an interview and talks more Universe

During the recent Creation Entertainment Stargate convention in Chicago, the good folks at Gateworld.net had a chance to catch up with Michael. The full interview will be posted in the near future, however, in an excerpt now up on the website Michael discusses the new entry to the Stargate franchise, Stargate Universe - specifically, sharing his view on fan reaction to the series...

"I've never seen so many knives being sharpened for a show being aired, especially by the fans of the franchise, as I've seen over this past year when it came to Universe... I've also seen a lot of love for it. ... But I'm just kind of surprised at the waiting-in-the-wings tension that is almost desirous for this thing to fall on its face. And I think that's a mistake."

... a few insider hints on what he perceives the show will have to offer Stargate fans...

"I think that one of things that people should respect about this show is that what they've always felt about the Stargate universe is that they love the characters. They want to know the characters more. This show is going to allow you to do that. More so than we had the opportunities in doing it in our series."

... and a suggestion for potential viewers:

"I think the most important thing is watch the show. he said. Judge from what you see. ... They have some amazing actors led by the profoundly amazing Robert Carlyle, who I couldn't say enough about. I think it's worth a look. I think you’re going to be pleasantly surprised."

To read the interview excerpt, go to the Gateworld website, and stay tuned to the site in the near future for the full interview.

I couldnt agree with Michael Shanks words more! Im not sure i understand why they are hitting this series so hard, and creating such wait and see tension, but i expect it to be interesting in its own right. And I think Robert Carlyle is a very good actor and im sure he will help make the show wonderful :) I just hope we will finally get some originality since we are leaving our universe/galaxy far far behind.

I couldnt agree with Michael Shanks words more! Im not sure i understand why they are hitting this series so hard, and creating such wait and see tension, but i expect it to be interesting in its own right. And I think Robert Carlyle is a very good actor and im sure he will help make the show wonderful :) I just hope we will finally get some originality since we are leaving our universe/galaxy far far behind.

I think it lies with how Atlantis was treated, if they ran SGA and SGU together, like they did with SG1 and SGA it might not be so mobbish.

I saw a 5 minute preview and the battle that was shown looked like a Battlestar Galactica ripoff; the shaky cam and the enemy aircraft looked similar to a Cylon Raider.

I think it lies with how Atlantis was treated, if they ran SGA and SGU together, like they did with SG1 and SGA it might not be so mobbish.

true and i think it doesnt help that a lot of the atlantis episodes started to become reminiscent of some of the SG-1 episodes. There was a good chunk of a season there where is went wait ive seen this before. But I think the fact that SGU has the ability to present a new and different angle is also adding to the mobbishness, its a fan favorite with a new and interesting twist, not to mention a very recognizable cast in many cases.

4 More Days! everyone got their Tivo set? I got to watching the clips on syfy.com, and I'm beginning to get excited for SGU.

4 More Days! everyone got their Tivo set? I got to watching the clips on syfy.com, and I'm beginning to get excited for SGU.

I know its soooo soon im so excited... i dont think ill get to watch it on friday though... i have family coming in town :grumble: Hopefully ill get to watch by the end of the weekend, if not i might go insane.

4 More Days! everyone got their Tivo set? I got to watching the clips on syfy.com, and I'm beginning to get excited for SGU.
Nope... since I don't have it :lol:. But I am planning on checking it out though, since it looks like it's going to be interesting.

I'm hoping that I'm right about it as well... since it would be a shame if it didn't turn out to be that good. I really hate when shows turn out to not be as good as they appeared to be.

Nope... since I don't have it :lol:. But I am planning on checking it out though, since it looks like it's going to be interesting.

I'm hoping that I'm right about it as well... since it would be a shame if it didn't turn out to be that good. I really hate when shows turn out to not be as good as they appeared to be.

I don't have one either. :lol: I just assumed most people do. that or DVR's.

I'm cautiously optimistic about it. I will watch at least the season premiere and episode 6 I think it is, where michael shanks makes an appearance. :relax:

I don't have one either. :lol: I just assumed most people do. that or DVR's.

I'm cautiously optimistic about it. I will watch at least the season premiere and episode 6 I think it is, where michael shanks makes an appearance. :relax:
Ah :lol: I see.

That's pretty much me as well. I'll go and watch it with an open mind, but overall -- I'm rather jaded over Stargate as of late. After that excuse of a movie (The Ark of Truth).

Awesome. I like his character (Daniel) that he played in SG-1.

So I saw the series premiere last night and I did not like it at all. In fact, I would say it was retarded.

I still cannot get past how an MIT dropout, who is extremely annoying by the way, solved a mathematical equation embedded in a video game. He would not learn advanced mathematics as an undergraduate. The military even recruited him! I do not like the Star Trek ripoff with beaming to ships. The sex scene in the episode feels to me like an attempt to grab the Battlestar Galactica reboot fans.

The entire plot of the episode is stupid. The inhabitants of the ancient aircraft would not begin to feel the effects of oxygen loss so quickly. I also hate that stupid woman who would risk the lives of everyone on board the ship just to let her father live a little while longer. Such a theme also feels like a ripoff of the Battlestar Galactica reboot, in which SGU tackles a controversial issue (I haven't seen all of SG-1 or SG Atlantis so those shows may have tackled controversial issues. If they did, please correct me).

I will watch a few more episodes before I make my decision on whether or not I should stop watching the show.

I still cannot get past how an MIT dropout, who is extremely annoying by the way, solved a mathematical equation embedded in a video game. He would not learn advanced mathematics as an undergraduate. The military even recruited him! I do not like the Star Trek ripoff with beaming to ships. The sex scene in the episode feels to me like an attempt to grab the Battlestar Galactica reboot fans.


There are geniuses that don't need schooling. While the beaming is a star trek staple, SG-1 and SGA have been doing as well, thanks to an alliance with a race of beings SG-1 met in season 2.


The entire plot of the episode is stupid. The inhabitants of the ancient aircraft would not begin to feel the effects of oxygen loss so quickly. I also hate that stupid woman who would risk the lives of everyone on board the ship just to let her father live a little while longer. Such a theme also feels like a ripoff of the Battlestar Galactica reboot, in which SGU tackles a controversial issue (I haven't seen all of SG-1 or SG Atlantis so those shows may have tackled controversial issues. If they did, please correct me).


If there isn't a lot of oxygen in an area, you would, you can feel the effects after holding your breath for a few minutes. in regards to Chole (stupid girl) you would be a-okay if you family member, the only person on the ship you knew, sacrificed themselves?

and yes SG-1 and SGA did tackle a number of controversial issues. BSG wasn't the only cutting edge, risky show out there.

So I saw the series premiere last night and I did not like it at all. In fact, I would say it was retarded.

I still cannot get past how an MIT dropout, who is extremely annoying by the way, solved a mathematical equation embedded in a video game. He would not learn advanced mathematics as an undergraduate. The military even recruited him! I do not like the Star Trek ripoff with beaming to ships. The sex scene in the episode feels to me like an attempt to grab the Battlestar Galactica reboot fans.

The entire plot of the episode is stupid. The inhabitants of the ancient aircraft would not begin to feel the effects of oxygen loss so quickly. I also hate that stupid woman who would risk the lives of everyone on board the ship just to let her father live a little while longer. Such a theme also feels like a ripoff of the Battlestar Galactica reboot, in which SGU tackles a controversial issue (I haven't seen all of SG-1 or SG Atlantis so those shows may have tackled controversial issues. If they did, please correct me).

I will watch a few more episodes before I make my decision on whether or not I should stop watching the show.
Agreed. I couldn't stand it. And as for the sex scene... :eeep: is all I can say there. A definite :no: from me. It was rather sexist. And it turned me away from watching the rest of the show itself.

There are geniuses that don't need schooling.
Even a genius wouldn’t be able to solve an equation in the ancient language without schooling. The logical thing to do would to have had mathematicians and scientists familiar with the ancient language try and solve it. But instead it was put in a video game so some gamer can solve it.

While the beaming is a star trek staple, SG-1 and SGA have been doing as well, thanks to an alliance with a race of beings SG-1 met in season 2.
This still doesn't excuse the blatant ripoff. I would say the same thing if I had made it to the second season of SG-1 (ps I only made it to episode ten of season one).

If there isn't a lot of oxygen in an area, you would, you can feel the effects after holding your breath for a few minutes.
Except that isn’t shown. But you're still correct.

in regards to Chole (stupid girl) you would be a-okay if you family member, the only person on the ship you knew, sacrificed themselves?
I would be upset, yes. But would I try and stop him or her, knowing they will be dead within the hour anyway, and risk the lives of everyone aboard the ship just so I can be with them for a little while longer? No, I would not. That type of irrationality gets people killed. Oh, and it’s selfish.

and yes SG-1 and SGA did tackle a number of controversial issues. BSG wasn't the only cutting edge, risky show out there.
Thanks for the correction.

Agreed. I couldn't stand it. And as for the sex scene... :eeep: is all I can say there. A definite :no: from me. It was rather sexist. And it turned me away from watching the rest of the show itself.
I'm not sure how it was sexist.

hmm im not sure what to make of this, i was very excited in the first 5-10 minutes the show opening was very well done, but then the flash backs started getting a bit confusing with the back and forth. I spent a lot of the episode wondering where they are going with this show and even after the preview im still not 100% sure what to expect.

SGU definitely didnt have the explosive opening that both SG-1 and atlantis had, where they immediately encountered some nasty enemy. This is different as i think the enemy for them atleast for a while is each other. They clearly are hindering themselves and until they find a serious over arcing problem to bring them together they wont come together and it looks like we might see the group split (based on what i saw in the preview).

But this pilot did have the token person who dies in the first episode, which this time was the senator. Boy is his daughter going to be annoying and hold a grudge for a while. i think thats part of the problem, none of the characters really grabbed me in the first episode, the arent very distinctive yet. And im said cause there is a serious lack of sarcastic guy that helped float sg-1 and atlantis, everyone is way to darn serious and not in a good way in an annoying way.

So im still on the fence as id like to see more action and less fighting amongst themselves, and some better defined characters. If i wanted to see people fight among themselves id check back into life instead of watching a tv show. but it was fun to see o'neill (with two l's) and carter (with her brown sanctuary hair :p ) and daniel (even if it was in an instruction video)

I liked it, and can't wait for more. I really like the darker tone to this show.

I haven't watch it, but regarding the beaming. That was done right from the beginning, with the "ring transporters", wasn't it?

I liked it, and can't wait for more. I really like the darker tone to this show.
If the series goes grimdark then I will probably continue to watch it. I prefer dark science fiction.

I like that its dark, there just isnt enough action and/or sarcasm to maintain my level of interest, the show is missing something and i havent 100% figured it out yet, but ill continue to watch for a while i know it can sometimes take some time for a new show, especially one thats a 2nd spinoff, to find its stride. I think the off ship travel to a new planet next week will help a bit. That and theres a lot of characters in general and it wasnt always clear what their purpose will be so once they flush that out it might help as well.

I'm not sure how it was sexist.
It was just the way that they presented the scene itself that seemed that way to me. Just the traditional stereotypes. I've seen other sex scenes in other tv shows (like in Law and Order SVU) that were more tastefully done.

I haven't watch it, but regarding the beaming. That was done right from the beginning, with the "ring transporters", wasn't it?

oh yeah. but there's Goa'uld and Ori ring transpoting and asgard beaming. JLT had a problem with the asgard beaming.


SGU definitely didnt have the explosive opening that both SG-1 and atlantis had, where they immediately encountered some nasty enemy. This is different as i think the enemy for them atleast for a while is each other. They clearly are hindering themselves and until they find a serious over arcing problem to bring them together they wont come together and it looks like we might see the group split (based on what i saw in the preview).

I don't know about you but I wouldn't call 'Children of the Gods; or 'Rising' explosive. Brad and Robert (exc producers) were going for a different angle with this show, rather than create an enemy, its more about how this group of clearly wrong people work together to survive.

I don't know about you but I wouldn't call 'Children of the Gods; or 'Rising' explosive. Brad and Robert (exc producers) were going for a different angle with this show, rather than create an enemy, its more about how this group of clearly wrong people work together to survive.

Explosive from the standpoint that there was action and fighting and a sense that they had met a nearly impossibly enemy, and there was mystery they were chasing an issue, they got attacked in both cases.

I think its going to take longer for me to wrap my head around this one cause the enemy is each other and their lack of cohesion not an actual person or creature. but if they just continue to stand around and talk most the time and not actually do something interesting, like go exploring or find new life or find new technology or something outside of that ship this show is going to be quite boring. But i see from the previews that they will go off world so im hoping that helps.

Maybe i just need to rewatch the premiere take a second look :p

so Air part 3, I think I'm beginning to dislike Greer, this mad at the world bit is getting a bit tiring. and space you right, the splitting up starting to happen already. geesh. my favorite though I can tell is gonna be Eli, the reference to 'Planet of the Apes' was great.

my favorite though I can tell is gonna be Eli, the reference to 'Planet of the Apes' was great.
I absolutely hate Eli. He's an idiot and extremely annoying. I don't think his reference to "Planet of the Apes" was funny at all. The delivery was really poor.

Anyway, "Air Part III" was decent but it did have its faults. That stupid woman, Chloe, leaked sensitive information to her stupid mother. I hate Chloe as well.

The moment the recon team saw that the world they were on was a desert wasteland, they should have sent Eli back because he would have slowed them down. Guess what. He did.

The acting is really freaking bad too. I actually laughed out loud when Chloe's mother "cried".

Because I think episode two is better than the premiere, I'll watch SGU next week.

I absolutely hate Eli. He's an idiot and extremely annoying. I don't think his reference to "Planet of the Apes" was funny at all. The delivery was really poor.

Anyway, "Air Part III" was decent but it did have its faults. That stupid woman, Chloe, leaked sensitive information to her stupid mother. I hate Chloe as well.

The moment the recon team saw that the world they were on was a desert wasteland, they should have sent Eli back because he would have slowed them down. Guess what. He did.

The acting is really freaking bad too. I actually laughed out loud when Chloe's mother "cried".

Because I think episode two is better than the premiere, I'll watch SGU next week.


can I ask you a question? why continue to watch the show, only to bag on it later? If it was decent what was a decent part? anything about it you liked?

In the case of Chole telling her mother what happened, she had permission from O'Neill, and there have been occasions where civilians were let in about the stargate and some of their missions. like Carter's father.

can I ask you a question? why continue to watch the show, only to bag on it later? If it was decent what was a decent part? anything about it you liked?
Why can't I criticize the things that bother me? If you look at my posting history in the Battlestar Galactica thread you'll see that I did the same thing, and I think nBSG is one of the best television shows of the decade. Anyway, one good thing is that the episode had a bit of real science in it. The music is pretty good as well though I disagree with the song choice at the end of the episode. It's very cliche.

In the case of Chole telling her mother what happened, she had permission from O'Neill, and there have been occasions where civilians were let in about the stargate and some of their missions. like Carter's father.
O'Neill did not give Chloe permission to speak about the incident. He simply said she will be escorted to see her mother and he asked her to give her mother his condolences. As for those citizens who were told about the Stargate program and its missions, they were probably cleared.

episode 2 was miles better than the premiere, I think im really going to like eli as well he's stealing the show him and the young lieutenant as well cant remember his name the one who found the lime. chloe is kinda annoying but i think she's supposed to be that way atleast for the beggining, im still trying to figure out everyone's roles. I love how they didnt mention those two people that went through the gate, are they just assumed dead or what? they kinda just didnt exist once they went through the event horizon. I cant wait to find out why everyone hates rush so much, but i have a feeling itll be a while before we learn this information. I also like the incorporation of the communication stones and how people on earth can still communicate and see the ship they are on... how long before they bring in experts from earth to help them fix the ship? I wonder if the one person per stone thing still is true or if those have been modified... if so then they wasted a stone on chloe.

Some news SGU got renewed not only that they got 20 episodes. the article includes an interview with Robert Cooper (co creator & producer)

http://www.thrfeed.com/2009/12/syfy-renews-stargate-universe-sanctuary-season-second-.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+live_feed+%28The+Hollywood+Re porter+-+The+Live+Feed%29

just wondering if there are any Stargate fans out there and if they have seen the new SGU.

I've only seen one episode of it -- and so far I'm not a fan. Not really my cup of tea this time around.

I've been watching, it comes back soon yes? It looks like it might be better the second time around.

I am not a huge stargate fan, but i have seen a lot of the original series and a few episodes of Atlantis. I have watched all the episodes so far of Stargate Universe. I am still not sure about it. I don't actually like any of the characters which, i think, could be a problem for the show. I sort of think it is necessary that the audiance care whether or not the characters die. I think i kept watching it because i kept thinking it had to get better. We will see.

just wanted your opinion on the old SG's compared to the new one, which i think its to soap opera but still a good series not as good as SG1 though :P

SG1 is by far my favorite you cant beat richard dean anderson and his sarcasm but atlantis was fairly comparable i think it ended too soon. SGU is no where near the level of either of its predecessors, its got a lot of work ahead of it if its going to compete. I think its too different right now and not in a good way, so viewers are losing interest.

SG1 is by far my favorite you cant beat richard dean anderson and his sarcasm but atlantis was fairly comparable i think it ended too soon. SGU is no where near the level of either of its predecessors, its got a lot of work ahead of it if its going to compete. I think its too different right now and not in a good way, so viewers are losing interest.
Agreed, he was part of the heart of the show, and part of the reason I really liked it back when it was on the air (SG1 that is).

I keep thinking that they have to make the characters more likable. I mean the most likable character is the big young guy who is good with numbers and he is sort of annoying. It may be there are too many characters, so we haven't really gotten to know any of them that well. I don't know. It isn't working in my opinion.

I do know that i feel like they could all die and i wouldn't care. As a matter of fact, i think the world might be better off if the ship just blew up. I am not sure if that is a good thing.

I know what you mean. I really want to like the characters but i cant. I think you are right about the too many characters, its been half a season and i cant remember half their names. There's potential for good characters but they either have really obnoxious qualities, or we dont know enough about them, and the communication stone thing is not working. It is good in theory but in reality, i think it makes the show more confusing and less connected.

And then there's rush he should be the sarcastic smart guy, but instead he's stubborn a complete pain in the neck and way too mysterious (and none of it in a good way at all), if they dont do something with him soon im going to get really annoyed with his character.

Most the characters have a lot of potential, they just havent gotten there yet.

I used to be a big SG1 fan, but the series started to lose me around S8. The show lost it's edge without the Jack/Daniel and Jack/Sam interaction, IMO.
I gave Atlantis a go, but too many of the earlier plotlines were rehashes of SG1 episodes and I lost interest. I haven't really bothered with SGU at all.

Yeah, i agree there is a lot of potential there. I also agree that i want to like the characters, but there are so many and almost everything we know about them seems to be bad qualities. I wouldn't want to be trapped on a boat with these people.

The thing is that is what is interesting about the show. They are all trapped and sort of trying to figure out how to live together and survive, but really the characters are too unlikable in my opinion. There really should be at least one character that you can sort of pull for, but everything we know about these characters makes you think they are not very good people. They need to bring on more character development, so maybe i can end up liking the characters more.

Also, yeah, i don't know how i feel about the communication stones either. It is a very bizarre way of having them communicate with the command on earth. Also them going off and have sex with their spouses or getting drunk while in someone else's body is very weird.

Ok only took about half a starter season but i think this show is finally getting on track. The season opener friday night was far far better than anything thus far. They still have a ways to go but im finally not hating every single character and im seeing where the plot is developing and heading, and im looking forward to next week. Im glad they brought rush back in but not immediately, and im glad it didnt seem overly convenient, they did a great job with his return, and I interested to see how the military vs nonmilitary battle develops and heats up. Finally looking forward to next week's episode.

I used to be a big SG1 fan, but the series started to lose me around S8. The show lost it's edge without the Jack/Daniel and Jack/Sam interaction, IMO.
I gave Atlantis a go, but too many of the earlier plotlines were rehashes of SG1 episodes and I lost interest. I haven't really bothered with SGU at all.
Agreed there. It just wasn't the same show without those characters. Rather lackluster in a way. And too bad too, since I really liked the show for the most part...

Okay so i just watched the last few new episodes of this and i liked the one where the civilians took over the ship. That was pretty interesting. I think they have improved slightly the likability of the characters. They still need to keep working on that a little bit more.

I am glad they didn't use the communication stones because that was getting ridiculous. We can hope that those will somehow become not part of the show because without them the last few new episodes were a lot more interesting.

They still need to work a little more on making me not hate the characters, but i definitely saw some improvement and i still see potential, so for now, i will keep catching up on this show.

I agree I think its better without the communication stones, but i wouldnt mind a minimal side plot with them once in a while. The characters are definitely a bit more likeable and I think its because there is real conflict now and a common enemy off and on. Real disagreements but realizing that they still need to work together as a team despite that.

I liked the planet they visited in this weeks episode and the conflict it created, i wonder if we will hear more about it at a later point or if its just over and done with. I think thats part of what makes this show so difficult is that the only consistency is the ship and the characters, you cant go back to places you've been you are always running into new situations and new enemies, it can be a source of strength for the show, but as of right now the crew is tired of the ship so it makes us tired of the ship, they need to find something interesting on the ship. And they need to develop the characters further.

I agree I think its better without the communication stones, but i wouldnt mind a minimal side plot with them once in a while. The characters are definitely a bit more likeable and I think its because there is real conflict now and a common enemy off and on. Real disagreements but realizing that they still need to work together as a team despite that.

Yeah, i wouldn't mind if they used the communication stones very rarely, but i did not like how they were sending people back and there was this tug of war between the people on earth messing with things on the ship while the people on the ship were in their bodies on earth. I also thought it was utterly ridiculous for them to be having sex with their spouses in another persons body especially when the connection could end at any moment. Even if it was a good connection it was all very strange.

I liked the planet they visited in this weeks episode and the conflict it created, i wonder if we will hear more about it at a later point or if its just over and done with. I think thats part of what makes this show so difficult is that the only consistency is the ship and the characters, you cant go back to places you've been you are always running into new situations and new enemies, it can be a source of strength for the show, but as of right now the crew is tired of the ship so it makes us tired of the ship, they need to find something interesting on the ship. And they need to develop the characters further.

I am thinking they might bring that planet back into the show or at least the species that created it and maybe the people they left. I think they could do more with the ship then just showing the gate room and the mess room and the bridge room. They don't even really know what is going on on the ship. I do think the show could be interesting if they were cut off and have to learn to live together.

I liked that the general realized he made a mistake in leaving that one guy behind. I thought it was interesting that Chloe sided with the civilians and that the LT wanted to stay on the planet. I also think the woman who is the leader of the civilians became more interesting in that episode as well. There was definitely a better start with character development.

I did enjoy the last two eps the best so far and if they continue where they have started with this little bit of character development maybe the show could be worth it in the end. We will see.

So the season premiere was about a week ago now, did anyone watch? I think they might finally be starting to find their stride with this show... only took a season.... but i did struggle with the opener a bit i feel like there was so much i had forgotten, i think i need to go back and watch the first season again....

Im really sad they wrote out TJ's baby that was lame. I think it would have made things more interesting but i can see how it would have gotten in the way. I wonder where they are going to take this season, should be interesting.

Stargate Universe has gotten canceled.

the news itself (http://www.deadline.com/2010/12/syfy-cancels-stargate-universe/)

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After weeks of speculation, Syfy just announced that it won't renew Stargate Universe for a third season, putting an end (for now) to the long-running Stargate franchise on the network. The upcoming 10 episodes of Stargate Universe's second season, which will air in the spring, will be the series' last.

*snip*

yes sad that is the end of the stargate era for now. there is a fb group for saving SGU but im not sure it will make any difference. Its a shame cause they were finally starting to find their stride only took a season and a half......

yes sad that is the end of the stargate era for now. there is a fb group for saving SGU but im not sure it will make any difference. Its a shame cause they were finally starting to find their stride only took a season and a half......
Yep. Wow that's cool. Well good luck there... since a lot of shows these days don't really get a second chance. The only one that I can think of that did was Friday Night Lights.

Behind the Mythology of Stargate SG-1 just re-aired here and I was wondering which of the various mythologies people found themselves enjoying most in the show. Additionally, which aliens were favourites?

The Asgard were probably my favourite race and even though I love the traditional Egyptian Goa'uld, it was interesting to see the deities of other cultures represented, e.g. - Cronus, Nirrti, Ba'al, Yu, etc. I've always had a tremendous soft spot for the Nox, too. :D

I'd lost pretty much all interest by the time they brought in the Arthurian and Holy Grail mythology. Not because they interest me any less but because by that time I felt the show had well and truly jumped the shark.

I always loved the egyptian myth centered behind the go'uld, the asgard were fun, but nothing beat the go'uld conflict!

I always loved the egyptian myth centered behind the go'uld, the asgard were fun, but nothing beat the go'uld conflict!
Same here. That was pretty much the peak of the show itself in terms of plot line and drama.

I've seen the original and both SG1 and Atlantis over and over. And I love both. For different reasons. I tried watching SGU but didn't like it (no scary aliens in the first episode).

I told my older brother this after seeing Thor. "You know every time that someone mentioned Thor and Asgard, I couldn't help but picture the little grey alien who was the commander and chief of the Asgard fleet." I literally couldn't help it. Seen too much SG1 (a photo slide show of Daniel Jackson is my computer's screen saver on my home pc).

Goulad, Wraith, or Ori. It's a hard choice to determine which bad guy is the worse.

Thor. :love:

The Goa'uld are undoubtedly my favourite long serving villain in the series - who else could pull off eye-liner and golden jewellery with such panache - but they were so ridiculously over the top with their theatrics that I really couldn't take them seriously most of the time. That said, they allowed a lot of fun storylines and brilliant one-liners from Jack. The Wraith were infinitely more terrifying to me. *shudders*

I've seen the original and both SG1 and Atlantis over and over. And I love both. For different reasons. I tried watching SGU but didn't like it (no scary aliens in the first episode).

I think this is exactly why people struggled so much with SGU in the beginning there was no common enemy or huge struggle for the inhabitants of Destiny to rally around so they tried to find one in their midst which just created bickering. I liked SGU so much better when they got to the episodes about the alternate them and traveling back in time and creating a colony... that to me was much more what stargate was all about exploration and aliens, and new challenges not bickering about who should run the ship and make decisions.


I told my older brother this after seeing Thor. "You know every time that someone mentioned Thor and Asgard, I couldn't help but picture the little grey alien who was the commander and chief of the Asgard fleet." I literally couldn't help it. Seen too much SG1 (a photo slide show of Daniel Jackson is my computer's screen saver on my home pc).

Goulad, Wraith, or Ori. It's a hard choice to determine which bad guy is the worse.

I kinda thought the same thing when i was watching thor, where's the hammer that eats go'ulds... :p

And after the go'ulds id say the wraith were a close second, i mean how do you combat an alien race that eats people to survive? Its the next worst thing to inhabiting people against their will and having them live with the torture the go'uld did. Just outright killing them as food. The ori i never really got. i just thought it was too far out there and kinda took things off the deep end, but i did enjoy the arthur tie ins there.