Ginny Weasley

Did anyone else notice how much time JK spent developing Ginny's character in OotP? And that look Ron gave Harry at the end when he told Ginny to fnd someone better....this could be interesting.

Ginny is great, i can't believe how sassy and confident she is now! You're right, she's definitly undergone some serious character development.

I laughed out loud when it was revealed she had a boyfriend and she was seeker.

I'm still not sure about Harry/Ginny though...

I loved how she brought Ginny out more in this book. She had a boyfriend! I was so surprised...and she got the seeker position, which is very hard. So I liked that.

Yes, I do belive Ginny did alot to show Harry that he deep down might like her.?????? They would make a cute couple! Ginny was the seeker after harry got banned. Andhe said that bit at the end of OoTP I would like for the to date it would be cool! But i really think Harry as figured out that ginny is A nice person and dosnt want to use him to talk about Cedric phewwe stupid Cho! Hermione and harry or Ginny and harry thats only ones i want together!

Yes, I do belive Ginny did alot to show Harry that he deep down might like her.?????? They would make a cute couple! Ginny was the seeker after harry got banned. And she said that bit at the end of OoTP I would like for them to date it would be cool! But i really think Harry as figured out that ginny is A nice person and might be his kinda girl?? and she dosnt want to use him to talk about Cedric phewwe stupid Cho! Hermione and harry or Ginny and harry thats only ones i want together!

She definetly has the same nuaghty streak as Fred and George! I was absolutely thrilled with her newfound confidence!

Harry better get un-banned, and soon! He and Ginny will be on the same team again...good times. What was up with her and Dean Thomas, though?!? She really gets areound quickly...and she's dating all guys who are older than her!

I always liked Ginny. I like her even more now that she is her own person.

She hisses like a cat, she calls Harry on his b.s. She idolizes Tonks! She emmulates the twins. She catches snitches. She has a batwing bogey hex that'll make you think twice about messing with her! She eats chocloate in the library.

The girl is awesome. She might be a little too good for Harry.

Naw.

JKR did a 360 on Ginny and I hated that. It was soo contrived - all of a sudden Ginny became this super cool and tough character. Oh and wow, she's also good at hexing, stole brooms from fred and george and we find all these about her from other people! It's as if JKR had realized how much she'd neglected Ginny and she's trying to make up by dumping information on us in one book. Sorry, didn't work for me. It was completely unconvincing. I didnt care for Ginny, now I hate her.

I loved it! Ginny and Neville both rocked out in this book!

I would love to see the two of them end up together!

lol, chalice! I totally agree! That whole calling Harry on his ** even adds to it...

Originally posted by eternalcircle (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=388557#post388557))
I didnt care for Ginny, now I hate her.


Did you used to be a Cho fan, or something? ;D

There was never anything wrong with Ginny in the first place. The books are all from Harry's perspective, and everyone was always saying how weird Ginny acted around him. She probably just got used to having him around. There a big difference in the maturity levels of an 11-year old and a 14-year old. Besides, who here hasn't acted like a total idiot around someone they've liked? Sometimes you get so goofy, it's like you're a different person, and I think that's the point with Ginny.

I think it's unrealistic that she changed that much so quickly. It was quite clear, that J.K. would make her into that super-girl, even more popular and perfect than cho was. But it was a bit too much.

Harry and Ginny, I hope not, everything would become so "hollywood" like. I never liked Ginny, to be honest. First her admiration for Harry, just becaues he is famous and now she develops this gigantic ego: "should I have d.t. instead", as if she can have everyone.

But I think a lot of girls in here can identify with her, maybe because they're her age or something like that.....

"hollywood"? I always thought the Harry-Cho thing was like that...I really like Ginny now ever more....I mean, she kicks butt, shes obviously pretty, she plays quidditch, she doesnt act like a blubbering fool around Harry anymore, she makes complete sense...one question though...WHat was up with Luna Lovegood?

Ginny obviosly is made from the same stuff as Fred and George maybe not as potent though
She seems to have made a friend in Luna though doesnt she... abou time to, and she had a boyfriend... no two! if you count Dean Thomas and their in Rons year... wonder how Ron feels his little sister going out with his mates
Wonder what would happen if she went out with Harry!?

yeah, I think the fact that Ginny's going out with his friends irks him a bit...how would he feel if Ginny and Harry got together and he dumped her or something? man, that would seriously suck...

Sorry bout double posting mu comp was tweakin out! any ways i dono mabye rom would like harry to go out with ginny ron would know that harry would treat her good. But that would be wierd if i had a sister and my best friend was dating her. But i dont have a sister so no worries lol!

:bow: GINNY WEASLEY :bow:

man, kosmic, everytime I look at your signiture I want to cry again.....:'( If Harry does go out with Ginny he BETTER treat her good (but no doubts there, right?)

Originally posted by chochang2021 (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=388607#post388607))
I think it's unrealistic that she changed that much so quickly.


I don't think she changed at all. We never knew too much about Ginny, which left her open to be developed the way JK wanted. I think that's why I've liked Ginny, she's been open to interpretation. In the last three books I remember having almost no say in anything. To me it always seemed that she had a bit of an extroverted personality by the way the other Weasleys talked about her. I also enjoyed the relationship she had with Fred and George. I always assumed she was closer to Ron, but I guess not.

I'm not that keen on Harry-Ginny romance. I like Ginny as a close friend of Harry's but not as a girlfriend. Ginny simply likes him from the start becuse he's "The Harry Potter" Sorry, but that's no better than Cho's liking Harry.
It was nice seeing Ginny finally coming out of her shell in front of Harry. Nicking F&G's brooms from the age 6, becoming Seeker, creating a scene so Harry could use the fireplace...she's cool.

As a FRIEND~!

hmm...I could go with the whole friend thing....and god, I dislike Cho so much now! She completely used Harry, just to have someone to talk to or whatever.

Avid H/G Shipper.. way too much food for thought here!

EDIT: Hate Cho more than ever, that's saying something. Evil *****.

I can't wait to see Ginny's character in the next book. I like the way she's developing - she's more outspoken around Harry, especially now that she's look at her other options :D

I must admit that I was impressed with how Ginny developed in this book. I was never a fan of hers (I always thought that she was something of a damsel-in-distress, if you know what I mean), but she has improved in some areas, seems to be stronger now and I like her for it. Quite a surprise when she snapped at Harry about talking to her about being posessed by Voldemort! Put him in his place, she did.

Until this book, I had no opinion on who Harry should end up with. The only thing for sure was that I didn't think he should be with Cho(I didn't hate her or anything, don't get me wrong, I jsut thought they should be friends).

Now, after reading this, my opinion has changed alot. I'm all for a H/G relationship. Cho seemed a bit whiney in this book (okay, so she had her reasons to cry, I admit, but come on. You don't start crying over your dead boyfriend on a date -.-). I wouldn't mind seeing more Cho, as long as they're only friends.

I really liked how Ginny is turning out. Shes got a little Fred and George in her, but shes still her own person. The only thing I didn't really like about her, is she went from one crush to another just like that. Which, I suppose, is normal for a teenage girl(me being one myself, though i'm not "boy crazy" so that might be why I found it slightly offensive[thats not quite the right word i'm looking for, but you get my point]) I hope that Ginny and Harry will develope a greater relationship as friends first, then move on from there. And I think this very well could happen with Hermine and Ron both being prefect. Harry spends time with Ginny instead of them when they're on duty (sitting with her on the train for example)

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Originally posted by Pigwidgeon
I don't think she changed at all.

Have you forgotten "chamber of secrets"? Where she wrote all the insecure things into her "diary"? And now, look at her, she acts as if she had never been a shy, insecure, little girl, but more like a tomboy.

BTW, I love Coldplay! ;)

Originally posted by Silver Phoenix (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=389489#post389489))

The only thing I didn't really like about her, is she went from one crush to another just like that.

Yeah, I agree. She seemed so indifferent about the whole boyfriend thing...like she was just going out with them to have one. But other than that, she rocks!:cool:

BTW, I love Coldplay, too!

I don't think Ginny has necessarily done a 180.

What has done a 180 is Harry's perception of Ginny. Aside from the first year unpleasantness, Ginny has never acted like a damsel. She has acted like a nervous little twit with a Grand Canyon sized crush, but she hasn't been sitting around waiting to be rescued either.

Ginny has come into her own because the crush is over. Because she doesn't blush, stammer and trip over herself around him any more, Harry is able to see the rocking babe she is now and probably always was deep down.

Ginny has had 3 years to come to terms with her victimization at the hands of Riddle and it does sound like she has done the work. She has knowledge, she has skill, and even her own brothers acknowledge that she has power.

I am glad this is the road that JKR took with Ginny. She could have made her other worldly and damselseque. Made her a tormented, dark character that goes running thourgh the forbidden forrest in a night gown for no good reason, before turning into pure energy!

Sorry, too much fan fiction.

I also like the friendship between Hermione and Ginny. It is nice to see that Hermione has a girl friend.

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Ginny is powerful beause Lord V gave her the power

when she encountered Tom Riddle in 2nd year Ginny got some of his power , in order for Ginny to do what Tom asked of her he gave her some of his powers so she can set off the Basilisk on the 2nd year victims .


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I like the way Ginny's turned out. I don't necessarily think it's unrealistic. When I was 11 and 12, I was really insecure, too. I would stammer around my crushes and all that jazz. But then I grew up. By the time I was 14 or 15, I didn't really care as much anymore, and now I'm almost 18 and I could care less. *lol*

Like some other people, the only thing I had a problem with was Ginny's quick change in boys. Hmm. I do like how she's become mischeivous, though. ;) It's neat.

The only thing I didn't really like about her, is she went from one crush to another just like that.

I think she was pulling Ron's buttons. I mean she knew what his reaction would be. She said to Hermione and I wouldn't doubt that Hermione told her how Ron reacted when she told him that she was dating Michael. Granted she could be serious but somehow and giving Ginny ability to be like Fred and George in some occassions I wouldn't doubt if she was pulling Ron's buttons.

The girl is awesome. She might be a little too good for Harry.

:p Nah! They are perfect!

Harry better get un-banned, and soon! He and Ginny will be on the same team again...good times.

Well she did tell him that next year she was going to apply for chaser because she like much more goal scoring than seeking. She was right the banned was because of idiot Umbridge. I hope next year McGonagall puts Harry back on the team as she gave them points in the end. We need to win and it seems like Harry tends to like Girls and sports, not something that I'm personally fond off but he seems to be atracted to that type.

Gily Ann

I too love the change in Ginny . Definately very F&G like

I'm not convinced by the sudden change in Ginny's character- it's too contrived, It seems almost as if JK looked at her future plans and realised Ginny featured so suddenly had to invent an entirely new Ginny. I found this book quite boring in places though, feeling that JK wasn't so much telling and maintaining interest in one story (which with me she failed to do) as just telling little snippet adventures and not quite succeeding at linking them together in the end.

Aah, but there is something important which must happen in Book 6. When Harry goes to the burrow, or the Order's house, he is taken aside by Arthur Weasley and given 'the speech.' Actually 2 combined - the 'dating my daughter' speech and the 'facts of life' speech. After all, who's going to fill Harry in - Dursley? - yeah, right; Ron? - as if; Hagrid? - can't see that happening; Snape? - eeewwww; DD? - he's kind of busy for that. Sirius would have been excellent, despite his bachelorhood, but that's not an option now. That leaves Arthur Weasley explaining sex and relationships - come on, JKR, we need some lightening up after OOTP - give us 'the speech' by Arthur Weasley! HeeHeeHee!

I just loved Ginny in this book. She kicked booty. Finally after two books we start to see her real personality. She is funny, mischeivous and brave. I also like how she talked to Harry about Tom and the possesion thing and told him he was being stupid. She is becoming her own person rather than Ron's little sister. think that in a lot of peoples eyes she really redeemed herself. Bravo for her.

Alot of people are saying shes totally changed. And I agree that she has. But I think we all have to remeber that she never talked to Harry before, because of her crush. And since this is from Harry point of veiw, then of course we wouldn't know about her. So se may not have changed, this may be how she always was, we just never got to see it cause she was around Harry when we did see her. Ron says himself (not sure which book it was o.0 2nd maybe?) that she usually talks alot, so it was odd for her to not be talking.

Ginny was awesome in this book. She really seems to be taking after Fred and George.

I don't think her personality has changed, she's always been just as cool as she in now, but because we see everything from Harry's perspective, and all he's seen of her is that she acts stupid around him because of her crush. Now that she gotten over her crush, she's able to talk to Harry normally, he (and we) can see what a cool person she really is.

Anyone else notice how often she's desribed as cat-like? Could this mean something for future books?

I never picked up on her being 'catlike' in description. Maybe she becomes an animagus and she is a cat. That would be nice. She could tell off Mrs. Norris but would probably have to run from Crookshanks.

Yeah, I don't have the book with me now, but in one part she makes a noise "like an angry cat", in another she's curled up like a cat on the chair, and her hair is described as a "mane". I think there are others, too.

I was thinking of the animagus idea, too.

I think, since Fred, George, and Lee have left, Ginny with be the new troublemaker of the family :lol: (but not get caught as often as the twins did....). I really love the way she was developed, though, and I really like the idea of her becoming an animagi, since it says that the trio won't, her being one would be just as good....

Originally posted by eternalcircle (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=388557#post388557))
JKR did a 360 on Ginny and I hated that. It was soo contrived - all of a sudden Ginny became this super cool and tough character.

I don't know eternalcircle....I'm not sure that Ginny was a "360". I've always secretly thought that Ginny was a strong and cool character. (Who wouldn't be, after being Fred and George's little sister?)

But like someone else said, the books are written from Harry's perspective, and I think that Ginny has always been a little intimidated because she's liked Harry. So, like a normal young girl, she avoided him, rather than talking to him. Now, she's more comfortable, because she's not after him.

On the Seeker front, don't you think that the Weasley's would have played Quidditch in their back yard? They'd have to have a Seeker with Charlie being gone...and Ginny is the lightest and the speediest. Makes sense to me.

I was happy that Ginny grew up and became this great character that is not just a girl Creevy. It was really nice to see her as her own person and see her personaility. And I'm glad Fred and George rubbed off on her. Looks like it did some good. :p

So if the books are all written from Harry's perspective, he's obviously noticing her more! YES! And yeah, majo, I did notice that cat-like thing. It was pretty subtle, but it could definately become huge!

Originally posted by chochang2021 (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=388607#post388607))
I think it's unrealistic that she changed that much so quickly. It was quite clear, that J.K. would make her into that super-girl, even more popular and perfect than cho was. But it was a bit too much.

Harry and Ginny, I hope not, everything would become so "hollywood" like. I never liked Ginny, to be honest. First her admiration for Harry, just becaues he is famous and now she develops this gigantic ego: "should I have d.t. instead", as if she can have everyone.

But I think a lot of girls in here can identify with her, maybe because they're her age or something like that.....
It could be that was how she was at home but she was so self conscious and insecure around Harry that she clammed up. Now that she's relaxed around Harry her true colors are showing.:cool: :coolblue:

Thank god she's relaxed! I don't know how much I could stand that innocent blushing Ginny with a school-age crush. But now she kicks butt majorly, and she's not a complete bookie like Hermione!

There's also the idea that she is four years older than when we were introduced to her. She also gave Harry some good advice when he thought he had somehow hurt Mr. Weasley. The discussion about whether he was possessed by Voldemort was particularly enlightening.

I liked Ginny a lot in this book and I think her change in character is believable if we take it to mean that she just hadn't shown her personality to Harry because of her awkward puppy love crush on him. Definetly a step in the right direction.

I love Ginny and I have routed for a Ginny/Harry union since the first book. I love that she had a girly crush on Harry. I also thought it was totally believable about her seemingly sudden character development. This is the kind of stuff that happens to people- they grow up overnight and you see them in a whole new light. I think a lot of people were holding on to the young mute vulnerable Ginny from books one and two and so was Harry(only Hermione noticed)- Ginny had to telly Harry that she was older than he thought of her. I was thrilled too that Ginny is dating other people. This has now given an opening for a more mature relationship later on in books 6 and 7- it wouldn't be a silly crush anymore but a romance developed out of friendship. I never thought Harry should be with Hermione- I always though Ginny, and I like it even better now that she is such a stronger character- not just the little girl (sister) hanging in the background. Even Ron has to think of her as a person nowwith the DA and playing quidditch.

At first it was hard for me to imagine her at 14 and being so independant, I just keep picturing the cute little girl from the movies in my head. Now I see her as a confident 14 year old. Though that is still little to me...well, I am proud of the way she turned out, and she has come out of her shell after getting over Harry!

Could I please just point out that changing a boyfriend once between september and july - 11 months!!! - is NOT boy-crazy/ flirtatious/ *going out with someone for the sake of it*???? For all we know, she and Michael broke up just before the christmas holidays, and with all the stuff about Mr Weasley, Ron and Harry never found out; and she only just got with Dean before they went to the Ministry!

Ginny ROCKS!

Originally posted by miri (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=411728#post411728))
Could I please just point out that changing a boyfriend once between september and july - 11 months!!! - is NOT boy-crazy/ flirtatious/ *going out with someone for the sake of it*???? For all we know, she and Michael broke up just before the christmas holidays, and with all the stuff about Mr Weasley, Ron and Harry never found out; and she only just got with Dean before they went to the Ministry!

Ginny ROCKS!
Ginny said they broke up after the Gryffindor/Ravenclaw Quidditch match.

LOL yeah! I think maybe Ron would preffer if Harry went, and dated Ginny, instead of Dean LOL

I think that sometimes a person changes because of a situation they are in that gives them reason to turn their life around. I am an entirely different person than I was six years ago, and it all had to do with the birth of my daughter.
I would certainly call Ginny's adventure with Tom Riddle a life changing situation.
Sometimes it takes a little time for the complete turnaround. I think Ginny is great!!!

Originally posted by eternalcircle (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=388557#post388557))
JKR did a 360 on Ginny and I hated that. It was soo contrived - all of a sudden Ginny became this super cool and tough character. Sorry, didn't work for me. It was completely unconvincing. I didnt care for Ginny, now I hate her.


Oh i dunno... i look back on my school days - argh so far away.... and i changed a LOT between the 2nd and 4th year - and by the 6th year i was even more different. No one really liked me lower down the school cos i had a weird sense of humour - in the 6th form people thought i was funny!

MinnyMoo

I don't agree with Mr. Ollivander,Ginny's inner strength and power looks to me to be completely her own.She's come a VERY long way from the little girl who begged to be let onto the Hogwarts Express a year early in PS,and who sent(I presume) that silly singing Valentine to Harry.And I was right in my theory:there IS a lot more to Ginny than meets the eye(broom shed...I'm not surprised).And she's finally proved that she does,after all,share DNA with the twins.I wouldn't be surprised if she turns out to be a worthy trouble-making successor to them,though that may be a bit much to expect so soon.

Ginny was great in this book. I think she and Harry will wind up together. I hope so anyway....
I bet she getts seeker in book six!

I hope they don't. I for some reason hate the thought of Harry and Ginny pairing up. It just does not seem right to me.

I think it's about time that Ginny played something more than a shy little girl who hides from everyone. I liked her development. It was boring to see Harry see her as his best friend's little sister. At least now, she has some status within "the group". I'm still questioning the part where Ginny says she's chosen Dean Thomas, whether she said that to annoy Ron or if she really likes him. It sounds to me that Ginny picked up on the fact that Ron was uncomfortable with her having a boyfriend and just said it to irritate him more. Sounds like something the twins would do if they were in Ginny's position.

A little off topic from books five, but the first time I read book one, I got the feeling that Ginny wasn't just a year younger than Ron. The way she was crying, chasing after the train and Mrs Weasley telling her she was too young to go to Hogwarts, I got the feeling she was like a six year old. It surprised me when I read the second book to discover that she was only a year younger.

All in all, I'd say it was a great improvement on the part of her character.

I thought the same thing as you. I pictured her as very young around 6 or 7. It just didn't seem right for her to be 10. But I too believe that the character change for Ginny was awesome. I loved how she is acting more and more like the twins. It's like they aren't really gone after all.

Silver Pheonix and Majo,

I definetly agree.

Ginny did NOT change personalities. She's always been like that, and JKR left clues. The first time we saw her she didn't shut up, and after that she was around Harry so we didn't get to see the real her.

I think people who found it unconvincing probably misguidely judged her as a helpless silly little girl, just like Tom Riddle did. :p It shouldn't take a powerful 16 year old evil wizard a whole year to completely possess a "silly little girl". Read between the lines! ;)

I agree with Ginny being misjudged but I think part of it was the way JKR had Harry see her. I mean when she came out and said maybe he'd want to talk to her b/c she had been possessed by V I think it really hit Harry then that other people are affected by what is goin on, not just him. A very typical teenager idea- that the world affects only them and since harry is being force to grow up very fast I thought this was very appropriate for the characters.

I love Ginny's personality.
And I don't think Ginny has changed. I think Ginny have always been that way, but we just didn't know because Harry didn't. We couldn't know it because J.K. shows us only what Harry knows in the books, could we?

I do think Ginny has changed, but not in an unrealistic way. I mean, are you the same person that you were a year ago? Two? Three?
And I think Ginny is going out with these guys not only to annoy Ron, but maybe to make another certain Gryffindor jealous....

Yes, if you're really reading between the lines of the first four books, you'll notice that Ginny didn't change. She was just left out in the first four that's why some may people think that she changed. The thing that just changed in her personality IMO is her shyness when HArry is around. She overcame that and is surprisingly over Harry. I still think that she still has feelings for him though. You can't just drop a big crush with just a flash anyway.

Nevertheless, Ginny ROCKS! I just loved the fact that JK developed her character so well. I expect we will discover more things about her. I also think she will play a bigger role in future books. I loved her before and I just love her more!

I do not think Ginny dropped Harry in just a flash. Remember, it has been months over a year in fact.

I would take what Hermione said about Ginny's interest in Harry with a a grain of salt, given that she's shown signs of interest in Harry herself.

Ginny is my favorite character now. I agree with everyone who said that she didn't change at all. She reminds me of myself now, it takes certain people and situations to bring out someone's true personality and I think Ginny got to that point in book five.

I'm really hoping that Harry and Ginny get together, I really, really, really do!!!!
And I like the fact that she's managed to one-up all her brothers by pulling the wool over their eyes... they had no idea waht she was capable of and she's capable of a lot!!! Seeking, hexing, I think she's got a great future in the books.
This is a bit off topic- but now everyone in the Weasley family has won the Gryffindor cup!!!! (I'm assuming Bill did, but I can't be sure, and, of course the legendary Charlie Weasley!!) Well, except for the Git Also Known As Percy, but he doesn't count.

Well Mutant for Hire, that makes for some interesting drama doesn't it?

I most sincerely hope Harry and Ginny do not get together. That would really kill it for me.

I loved how she brought Ginny out more in this book. She had a boyfriend! I was so surprised...and she got the seeker position, which is very hard. So I liked that.

exactly how i feel. although, i think harry'll be unbanned soon so she's pretty cut when it comes to quidditch :p

Ginny didnt change from one day to another. Ginny was ALWAYS like that, but NEVER showed it becuz she had her hopes up on Harry. I would like to remind you to re-read one specific part of the book 5... When Hermione tells Harry Ginny "gave up on him, not that she doesnt LIKE him of course".
The way they used the "like" word means something.
Cho seemed like a nice girl, but God, she cried TOO much. And Harry didn't have many things in common with her, as we could see in the whole book. If it hadn't been for Cedric's death, Cho would still be with him,she would have not dated Harry.

exactly how i feel. although, i think harry'll be unbanned soon so she's pretty cut when it comes to quidditch :p

Ginny said that she wanted to be a chaser and since Angelina and Alicia are leaving, she'll probably be a chaser and give Harry back his seeker position.

Anyhoo, Ginny was indeed a great highlight of the book. I thought she matured very well and can definitely see her becoming a formidable witch. I was a little disappointed in the MoM scene, though. I think she would have faired better had she not twisted or broken her ankle.

I wonder, when she was being possessed by Tom, did she learn any of the spells he probably taught her. I mean, he was controlling her for a year so he must have taught her some form of dark magic. I can't wait to see her grow in the next books and believe she will make a great match for Harry.

H/G all the way. :agree:

I definately like this Ginny way better than the Ginny in the other books. She is much more outspoken in this book and really liked it when she put Harry in his place.

Oh do forgive for not reading the entire thing!

I LOVED GINNY! I know she and Harry will make a great couple and I love the way she was portrait.

Gily Ann

Oh do forgive for not reading the entire thing!

I LOVED GINNY! I know she and Harry will make a great couple and I love the way she was portrait.

Gily Ann

Hey Gily Ann! I just noticed you were here!
lol I assume your the same Gily Ann from Requiem, I'm Charm your own cheese there, which you might of guessed from this user name. :p

It's good that we a lot of his here to support Ginny...hehehe. :clap:

I've come to like Ginny more.! I haven't read OotP again yet, but I will. She really developed in OotP. And I agree she did develop in a realistic way.! :D She's 14yrs and trying to come into her own as a person and becoming more independent.

I wonder though is she really dating guys to make Harry jealous... As someone said... Well they said it indirectly "....not only make Ron jealous, but also a certain other Gryffindor.". Didn't she say she was over him? Well then again she may not be, but it really seems like it. She's not so afraid to be around him or emberassed.

Peven if she does I don't think Harry does. Though I bet he will next book... Why? Because its always happened to me with guys that I like that when I like them they don't like me and when they like me I don't like them. So that very well may happen.

Not only that, but do you have ANY idea how jealous Ron would get? He gets mad with other guys, but Harry is his best bud, he'd react like he was raping her or something(well not quite as much...). But I don't think Harry would want to hurt Ron. Maybe Harry wouldn't even be aware of it.

Actually I bet Ron just may not say anything and glare at him and ignore him and Harry would be like "Huh? What's up his butt?" lol... Just some possible scenarios.!

So the whole Ginny/Harry thing, as much as I've alway hoped it would happen, is very unlikely.

With that topic over.... I KNOW Ginny will grow even MORE in the next books. Why? Because she wouldn't have grown so much in OotP if she wasn't going to continue to grow in the next books. She's obviously going to because a very relevant character. Esp. as one of The Six. I actually have a thread on that if you want to check it. :p

http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=12553

So yeah... I really can't wait to see more of Ginny, and I do think Harry will take notice of her next book. We'll just have to wait and see where it go's.! :D

I was really impressed and pleased with Ginny, too. I don't really feel that she changed much, or that JKR altered her personality. She's just growing up a bit, and we're getting to see more of her as she finds herself gaining confidence. I'm so glad to see her character developing. I think this could be good for Hermione; she seems to have taken a shine to her and I think perhaps Hermione will soon find herself in need of a good girl friend to chat with about boy problems...

I agree with those that believe Ginny grew in a normal way any girl would, and mature over her formidable years. She had to pick up some wit from the twins, and her other brothers talent at magic. I to agree she will be a chaser next year. Also, is an avid believer in a harry/ginny relationship. (which of course would leave luna for neville ;) not that i am bias)

I really got the feeling that the Harry/Ginny ship had lost its last anchor to windward. Ginny might still care about him but she's repressing it. And Harry's too busy with Hermione and Cho to notice her much. She did mature normally, and she has quite a bit of the twins' flavor to her, doesn't she?:D That's cool.

Ginny might still care about him but she's repressing it.

I agree. But I don't think that it's not so much as she is repressing her feelings for herself as it is for Harry. Even if she still likes him, she probably has thought over that he won't really want to be in any type of relationship with anyone who had Voldemort to worry about and and Cedric's death on his mind, without having to think of some silly girl having a crush on him (unlike some other girl who liked Harry :grumble:).

Anyway, I don't think that Ginny's maturity has changed unrealistically at all, and people who say that have obviously never been a thirteen-year-old girl. It's very normal to have changes in personality (as *drastic* as Ginny's may seemed to have been), especially after you've had the --one crush to crush them all-- crush.

Hey Gily Ann! I just noticed you were here!
lol I assume your the same Gily Ann from Requiem, I'm Charm your own cheese there, which you might of guessed from this user name. :p

It's good that we a lot of his here to support Ginny...hehehe. :clap:

Hey! Good to see you!

About the whole given up vs. gotten over. Here goes my best theory based on the books.

Last year when Ginny heard that Harry liked Cho it was an emotional battleground for Ginny. She has loved Harry (This according to the quote from JKR that she is languinshin in love) since the chamber. So having her known that he liked someone else she decided to try to go on with her love. Thinking that Harry will never liked her :lol: :rolleyes:.

So she got toguether with Michael Corner and started going out with him. Problem is that she still likes Harry because she showed signs all over the book to be more concernfor Harry than for her own boyfriend. Even Hermione hinted at that twice.

Gily Ann

Ginny has always been my fave character from the start. I'm so glad that we've seen more of her in book 5. She rox! Harry noticed her more too :D I believe that Ginny's role in the remaining books will be even bigger. Just like in the Quidditch Cup match she may even catch the snitch :cough: Harry

Both Ginny AND Neville have developed in book 5. I love the new Ginny, she's much more outgoing and sure of herself. It WAS a sudden change, but it was a good one. I like this Ginny better than the meek little Ginny in the previous books. And I'm starting to respect Neville a bit more, after seeing his brave side. Is there potential for Ginny/Neville in the later books?

It's been advanced, but it seems forced. We'll have to wait to see how Neville develops. I think Ginny would like new Neville if she gave him a shot.

Gilly Ann.....where did Hermione hint that Ginny cared more about Harry than Michael? OMG TELL ME lol.

Is there potential for Ginny/Neville in the later books?

No, not really. It's more like a fanfiction thing than real. Specially since Neville is interested on Hermione.

where did Hermione hint that Ginny cared more about Harry than Michael?

Sorry should have clarified better. Horrible used of words I was in a hurry. What Hermione hinted was that Ginny still liked Harry.

First when she said that Ginny gave up on Harry. Then she proceed to say that she still liked him. Ginny and Harry already had some interactions and they were friends so there was no need to clarify that she still liked him. We know and Harry knows that she doesn't hate him.

Then on xmas when they were sorting the whole possession thing Hermione said:

'Well, you have!' she said. 'And you won't look at any of us!'

'It's you lot who won't look at me!' said Harry angrily.

'Maybe you're taking it in turns to look, and keep missing each other,' suggested Hermione, the corners of her mouth twitching.

Hermione is suggesting and teasing Harry and Ginny saying that they are avoiding looking at each other because both are attracted to each other. :lol: :eyebrows: Something she has notice, perhaps? :agree: :whistle: Perhaps foreshadowing? :elaugh:

Gily Ann

omg you are totally right.....I seriously have always liked Ginny for Harry best. I think book 6 will bring a lot of "surprises" lol. Just the fact that they have so much in common, and still have their own personalities. Plus, Harry and Ginny seem to be getting closer now.

yes! i've noticed that too. and now that ginny has given up her giggling fits around harry maybe he'll start to notice her.( guys always notice when they are no longer being swooned over)

Yes the giggling and the eye contacts always call for attention. lol.

I bet Ginny's really pretty...

I bet Ginny's really pretty...
The question is, how long will it take Harry to notice? I mean he was in Hermione's company all the time and he didn't get a clue until book four...

The question is, how long will it take Harry to notice? I mean he was in Hermione's company all the time and he didn't get a clue until book four...

Oh but he already does Mutant. You see Harry has given more pretty adjectives to Ginny than to any other character in the book. Even more than to the Semigoddess Cho. Now that Harry and Ginny have Quidditch toguether and take DA also. Things will pick up speed. Harry was simply not interested in Hermione(He thinks she is pretty but is not atracted to her). Now he knows that girls are girls. Harry was already very impressed by the way Ginny was flying. I have no doubt in my mind that it was because of that jkr didn't let us see when Ginny caught the Snitch under Cho's nose.

Gily Ann

With her long-overdue character development in this story,Ginny has become (arguably) the strongest female character in the series,aside from Hermione-something I said on the review thread,too-and therefore the only plausible love interest for him apart from Hermione,who I think is very platonic with Harry anyway.And Ginny hasn't given up on Harry-it sounds to me like she went out with Michael mainly because she realized Harry wasn't available or interested in her that way just then.About Dean-I think she said that to annoy Ron-she must've known it would.Anyway,boyfriend or not,I like the way her character development is happening,and I really hope we get to see more of her,especially as a friend to Hermione and Harry.

I just love Harry and Ginny.....I just don't know where he mentions any adjective for Ginny at all...Gilly Ann reads way too good lol.

I like the new Ginny and the new Neville, which is why I think that their simultaneous transformation is probably not a coincidence--they're destined to be lovers, I suppose.

I also don't think that the introduction of Luna Lovegood is a coincidence either. She was given a whole chapter named after her and she and Harry had a nice moment together before the final chapter. The Ginny and Harry senerio or possibility is dropping fast.

Not only that the possibility of Harry and Ginny is dropping, I think Harry's possibilities are dropping in general, since he blew it with Cho and Parvatti, so as I see it, Hermione is his only choice, because I think Luna and Ron will eventually hook up.

Is it just me or is Ginny really annoying? I can't stand her.

Tarot--That would be so cool. And Luna could drag Ron all over the place looking for fictitious beings. Ha. It'd be like the reverse of his parents' relationship where the mother is stable and fairly down to earth and the father lets his pet obsession run his life. Now that is REALLY like Arthur and Molly.

Harry does seem to be narrowing his options, but he seems to be directed towards something much finer and in all ways better than the ones the gave up.

Is it just me or is Ginny really annoying? I can't stand her.

Its just you.

I just love Harry and Ginny.....I just don't know where he mentions any adjective for Ginny at all...Gilly Ann reads way too good lol.

Look on the descriptions she gives her. He has given her more nice adjectives to her than to the semi-godess Cho. Harry's adjectives towards Ginny have always been very descriptives and very colorful. Even on Order of Phoenix his adjectives were nice. Her long mane of red hair, the descriptions of her actions are all very colorfull.

Plus Ginny is also the person that aside from Sirius is able to stop him from being in his self-pity mood and concentrate in the problem.

Overall Ginny has proven to be all that I said she would be and JKR foreshsadow in book 1-4.

Gily Ann

Is it just me or is Ginny really annoying? I can't stand her.

ITS JUST YOU.... :p

lol, no I think Ginny's *GREAT*.! I didn't care for her much till this book, I liked her in the second book, but then she was somewhat put on the shelf till book 5.! Go Ginny!!!

Yeah, I know!!! Harry had alot of adjectives to describe Ginny... Did you here about the rumour that she's an animagi secretly? You know been practicing... We know she's a sneak(Sneaking around practicing quidditch, sneaking around with boys.), and there were all those "catlike" references... I'm sure they were'nt coincidences... If she's not an animagi already, I bet she's working on being one and her animagi form will be a cat. It would be very helpful.! If not well.. Then I'm sure the cat thing will have some other significance.! :D

:) She must be to get all those guys!

Nah, I bet she is pretty. The Weasleys haven't had a problem with looks, have they? I mean Charlie and Bill are described as good looking (as Fleur well knows) so I bet those good genes got passed on. Doesn't seem like Ron got em, though, he isn't described as anything but lanky and freckly. :sigh: Oh well.

"Bill transferred back here to do work for the Order, but...there are compensations" :elaugh::rotfl: Yeah, the Weasleys generally have good looks. Oh well. Can't wait to see what Ginny does for an encore

To be honest, I think that it's great that the character of Ginny has come in to play in OOTP.
Firstly, we didn't really know anything about her, and as pointed out - the books are written from Harry's point of view. In Ginny's first year - COS - she had her insecurities - which all people do - especially starting out in a new school, trying to fit and making friends. Everyone goes through this in their life...In OOTP - JKR has has brought the character into focus...Ginny has spent a couple of years now at Hogwarts and during this time, she of course has developed her confidence and made friends...JKR showed us how Ginny's character has matured over time and I am certain that her silly-little-girl crush for Harry is gone.

Come on, I'm sure everyone in their life has had one of those little crushes..and made a total fool of themselves in front of them...and then as you get older and remember it...you just laugh to yourself and think - remember the time I had a crush on...!!!!

As for a Harry and Ginny romance, I don't think that it will happen...Harry is like a part of the Weasley family and I think Harry is impressed at how much Ginny has grown up and how there is so much untapped talent in her. I think that he respects her and sees her as a little sister...I think the romance is heading more towards Harry and Hermione and Ginny and Neville.

Ginny and Neville would be great, but I don't remember them doing much together in OotP Who was she paired with during the attack? Luna was with Ron. Was that Neville who had to support her out or was Luna doing doble-duty on the Weasleys?

I don't know about you, but this whole Dumbledore's Army thing has me thinking. There's just been too much build up, character development wise, between Ginny and Neville for their good fortunes to last very long.

Ginny went from being the shy, starstruck little little girl into being more or about as courageous as Hermione. Neville went from being an incompetent oaf into being more on the ball than Ron. Don't get me wrong, I like the developments, but somehow I think we are all being setup for another tragedy down the line.

The r/h/hr friendship is probably etched in stone, so I could easily see Ginny or Neville sacrificing themselves for another in Dumbledore's Army. The fact that Ginny has a history of infatuation with Harry could be her downfall if JR wanted to bring a tragedy to the team's heroic image.

The same goes for Neville. I could easily see him dueling with Bellatrix and killing her and himself in a blaze of glory to protect his friends in DA. Somehow, I don't think that DA is going to come out of the series sqeaky clean.

I don't know if anyone's pointed this out already but the major change in Harry and Ginny has been the comfort level in their interactions-there wasn't much of one before.I have no idea whether the library incident was him really opening up to her or if he would've just spilled to anyone who happened to be there and she caught him off guard.If there is to be any deeper sort of connection between the two of them,even of friendship,it's imperative that he stop seeing her as Ron's baby sister alone-she doesn't need YET ANOTHER person in her life babying her-I suspect that's why she and Hermione are such good friends.How much time will it take for Harry to realize that she's not only a good Quidditch player -and he likes those- but a highly skilled,intelligent witch (Scourgifying Spell,anyone?) with a strong sense of mischief (more,I think, than Ron or Hermione) making her possibly lots of fun to hang out with?Whatever happens,I hope we see more of her-she's really turned out awesome!Talk about appearances being deceptive.

No!!!! No!!!!! IT'S SO VERY OBVIOUS GINNY+HARRY WILL BECOME A COUPLE AND RON + HERMIONE OF COURSE!!!!

You know, until this book, I didn't have a favorite character. After a couple of posts, I realized that Ginny is my favorite. I think that while we've had some hints at how strong Ginny is magically, we don't know the half of it.

I like the idea that she's working on or has succeeded in becoming an animagi. There were many, many cat-like references to Ginny, throughout the book.

I shouted with glee when she explained to Harry how she'd learned to fly. Ginny is someone I would have been friends with in school... Maybe being the only sister, and the youngest Weasley isn't all bad after all.

As for the potential romance, I try to pretend that doesn't really matter to me, but I do think that Ginny understand Harry better than any other gal ever can. Of course, no one but Ron's best bud would be good enough for his little sister, so I'm certain that's what his look at the end of the book was all about..

I dont think theres ANY way of Harry and Hermione...Honestly *lol* theyre both only friends, and Hermione seems to like Ron....even JK says it....and she writes the book so wed have to listen to her points every once in a while. As for H/G I still think theres a better chance...

I've always been a big Ginny fan (maybe because i read mostly D/G fanfics) so its great to finally see another developed female character besides Hermione.


Call it crazy but my family and I are getting a brand new puppy in a few days and we're naming her Ginny, after (of course) my favorite Harry Potter character.

I want to first say WELCOME LADY LUNA TO THE COSFORUMS!!!!!!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

And now... Ginny, yes, she's fast becoming one of my favorite characters, I didn't care much for her until this book. However if truth be told I always hoping for a Ginny/Harry romance... But I dunno if it will happen... I mean I think Ron would get really jealous... lol He gets so jealous with other guys and he's so protective. Even if he think Harry is the best choice, I think once it happens he'll still be jealous. :p

But yeah, I *Love* the idea of Ginny secretly learning to be a an animagi, its very possible. Considering what we've learned of her in book 5. :D I think it would be a *GREAT* twist.! :p

Personally, I think Ron is working the Harry-Ginny connection. Yes, he's jealous of anyone else that takes up Harry's time, and sure, he and his brothers are protective of Ginny, but with the exception of Percy the Git, I think the other boys think of Harry as a brother.

Remember the look on the train at the end of OotP? Ron gave Harry a look when he said that Ginny could do better in the boyfriend department...

All I can say is Ginny you go girl! I have always been a supporter of Ginny and a H/G shipper. Now I am more convienced shes the right girl for Harry. Yes at first Ginny liked Harry becasue he was famous Harry Potter, but if you re-read book one that was why Herminoe was frist drawn to him and Ron on the train. The things is what has changed now after five years?

It is here we see the people they will become begin to emerge(as in the case with most tennagers 13-17 a persons real personality only begins to emerge) if you recall in the last few books anytime it came real danger Ron wet his pants nearly from fear, this time it was a bit different. Same with Ginny and Herminoe. Herminone in my opinion still has a bit of the like a person becasue they are famous thing. I mean if you look she dates the one guy whos probably more famous then Harry when she shows signs of not liking him as a girlfirend. Yes she and Harry are firends but she jumps in and acts more like a manager than someone in love. Her attaraction to Harry is obivous but I dont think theres much of a chance there. I dont know i feel like when she and Harry are together she likes to display they are best firends. Not intentionally on her part but I think this fame thing is there, and it will be a problem.

Ginny yes it started as that, but now you really see should care less about the fame and more about Harry as a person. To me that is an important evolution. She was willing to go to the wall for him and for Sirus which gives her a leg up over Herminone in the end. As far as all this why are we seening this change now? Well we have not seen much of Ginny in essence because she has not been hanging around with Harry much. All he did was really hang around with R/H with them being made perfects we see him interacting with others more. I mean to behonest she never really did much with Neville but look at him now. We must always take in that she is writing from Harry's eyes and he is not all seeing.

Now Cho I think she is a :censored:( long line of profanities). She used Harry and should not ever even be considered as a possiblity from here on out. What a witch! And I do not mean the magical kind!!!!

Phionex, that's an interesting point. Hermione is a good friend to Harry and to Ron, but she's bossy at times, and the Viktor Krumm/fame angle is interesting. I'm trying very hard not to get too interested in the romances, but...

ginnycould be very important she is a good character

whooh

ginny is one of my favorite characters

Looking over all of Ginny's appearances in book five, I am struck by what seems an interesting fact: all of them could have easily have been written out of the book with almost no impact. Before people leap to any conclusions, let me say that I do not consider this insignficant, and in fact can go to the opposite conclusion, that JKR deliberately included Ginny in these scenes. JKR is too good of a writer not to do things like include a character when it is unnecessary without a specific reason, so presumably she had a specific reason to do so.

First is Ginny's initial entrance where she reveals herself as a fellow conspirator against the adults, testing the kitchen door with dungbombs and unblushingly blaming the results on Crookshanks. Her role there could easily have been done by Fred or George, and in some ways would have been more natural coming from them. Instead Ginny gets the opportunity to show off her own abiltiies there.

Ginny need not have been in the train ride up. Harry and Neville could have stumbled into Luna's compartment all by themselves, given that there's no room anywhere else. Admittedly KR did this so she could gather up the sextet for the first time, so I don't consider it a scene that focused on Ginny in particular.

Ginny becoming the Gryffindor Seeker wasn't particularly necessary to the plot. An incompetant Seeker, to replace the incompetant Beaters could have been done to put more pressure on Ron and highlight his abilities. Instead, JKR put Ginny on the team and made her competant as a Seeker. Again, JKR is deliberately bringing Ginny into the books, and a lot of her casual appearnces in the book are linked to her being on the Quidditch team in addition to Ron. JKR wanted to have Ginny having more appearances, and needed a way to justify it along with having the Weasley kids at the Order of the Phoenix headquarters.

As I've commented in another thread. the scene at 12 Grimmauld place about Harry's possession could have been written without Ginny. JKR could have just done it with the trio talking, which in many ways would have been more normal for how they would deal with things. Instead, Ginny is included and goes into her arguments ahead of everyone else, including Hermione. Harry's mood does not go from negative to positive until after Ginny has spoken. Hermione and Ron's words are also comforting, but they are merely reinforcing the positive mood that Ginny has created there, keeping Harry from backsliding. JKR uses this scene to give Ginny a more prominant position of the secondary characters outside of Ron and Hermione and to remind people of something significant that happened to Ginny in book two.

The scene where Ginny and Harry were chatting about the future of the Quidditch team and her own plans there wasn't really necessary to the plot either. It could have been cut making a monster book slightly smaller. Instead I think it was done just to show that Harry and Ginny can talk now and get along reasonably well, having compatible interests. And to set up Harry and Ginny being on the team together next year, forestalling debates that Ginny would not choose to give up the Seeker position. It also might have made Harry a little more inclined to talk to her in the library later on.

The library scene again was totally unnecessary. Detractors have pointed out that the only thing that Ginny did was pass word to Fred and George. Harry did all the planning on his end and Fred and George did all the planning on their end. Again, JKR could have simply written this scene, much more shortly and compactly with Harry coming up with the plan on his own and going to Fred and George directly. In some ways that would have flowed a lot more simply. Instead, JKR deliberately wedged a Harry/Ginny scene in here. Harry is too sunk into depression to even think of a way to do it. Ginny breaks through his hopelessness and gives him the hope to start focusing on finding a solution. She helps him help himself, and scores points as being someone that Harry can turn to for help. That is the reason that JKR wrote the scene that way, to give her a chance to break Harry's despair and establish herself as helpful.

Later on, it's not just Ginny again but the sextet in operation, however it is interesting that Ginny doesn't use the same arguments as the other new additions to the group. Her argument for going in is ironically more of the same one that Harry himself uses, that she cares about Sirius a lot. It does a lot to establish herself as being a lot like Harry in some ways. It's also another opportunity for her to show that she doesn't rattle even when Harry is yelling at her and even Ron is trying to push her off.

Yes, JKR did not give Ginny the scene going into the centaur forest, but if she had, then all of Hermione's fans would be arguing that Ginny was incompetant because that incident nearly got Harry and his companion killed. The fact of the matter is that it demonstrated that Hermione isn't all that good in some areas. She messed up at the end, offending the centaurs and only Grawp's presence saved her.

As for Hermione heading off with Harry and Neville, the thing to remember is that whoever went with Harry and Neville was going to be taken out because the main point of that sequence was to have Harry and Neville with the prophecy, a bit of dramatic foreshadowing for the revelations at the end of the book. As it so happens, Ginny is one of the ones who holds out the longest. In fact she's the last one to be taken down of the four who went down. And she was struggling with a broken ankle caused by friendly fire (Luna blowing up the planet).

And in more than one place in the book, when Harry, Ginny and Hermione are together and something amusing happens, it's Ginny that Harry makes eye contact with, trading an amusing look, not Hermione. Now I am not taking this for a romantic gesture in this instance, but it does indicate to me that the two of them can be on the same wavelength.

Then there is also the fact that Ginny gets even more page space because she gets talked about a lot more in this book than she does in previous efforts. Fred and George indicate that she's powerful, and these are two guys who turned a whole school corridor into a swamp and bogged down a whole school with fireworks. Hermione indicates that Ginny has been dating someone and later on makes an observation about what Ginny used to do in her childhood. There's a lot of fleshing out of Ginny's personality as well as her abilities here. Why is Ginny's dating history dragged into the discussion, and why at the end of book five, is Ginny's ex seeing Harry's ex? My personal feeling is that it is to set up some interesting scenes in book six, as well as the Gryffindor/Ravenclaw match.

Neither Neville or Luna got much page space before the raid on the Department of Mysteries, certainly not the development that Ginny got, though Ginny didn't get the zinger of the development that Neville got at the very end, or Harry and Luna's conversation at the end about death, which I tend to view as foreshadowing for Luna's role in future books as an expert on the mysteries (if such a thing can exist). Ginny was really fleshed out as a person, in scenes that JKR could have technically written much more tighter and with much greater precedent without her. So why did JKR put Ginny in? Because the point of Ginny's presence was to establish her there.

JKR has stated that book five was so long because she had to stick things in so that what would happen in books six and seven wouldn't be suddenly appearing out of nowhere. Given that JKR deliberately was including Ginny in places and refering to her in places, it is clear to me that JKR is definitely positioning Ginny for a more prominent part in the series. And the sorts of scenes that Ginny is having with Harry, demonstrating her abilities as a conspirator, lightening his mood on two occasions, being someone there for Harry to talk to about Quidditch or anything else that is bothering him.

well she is going down the "Fred and George" root which i love the idea of it soudsn liek so much

Mutant for Hire,I expect you're used to hearing this,but THAT WAS BRILLIANT!I'd composed a post along pretty much the same lines so I'll just put the gist here:I have questions to ask-WHY has she been given the additional fleshing out,if the purpose of it isn't for her to play a more important role vis-a-vis Harry,later in the series?Why did JKR make her the new Gryffindor Seeker-one good enough to impress even Harry?Why was she the one to suggest Dumbledore's Army as the DA's full form after Cho-of all people-thought of the Defence Association?Why'd Harry open up to her in the library at all?And why did the boyfriend she dumped go out with-of all people again-Cho Chang?I've said before that Hermione and Ginny are the only female characters who've been developed enough to be set up as love interests to Harry,and now it looks like Harry'd need a girlfriend who's a little more rebellious and has more of a sense of mischief than Hermione's shown so far (and she's my favourite character,she could very well have more hidden depths to her than we know of)-someone who won't be a pushover,who's a powerful witch in her own right,isn't attracted to him because of,or intimidated by,his celebrity status-someone who likes Harry,not the Boy Who Lived,someone who knows what's going on in his life (Ginny pretty much does),who's loyal to him,and Ginny and Hermione are the only girls who fit that bill,but-I reiterate-Harry needs someone with a well-developed sense of mischief who understands,and isn't threatened by,his relationship with Hermione-something Cho failed miserably to do.And I couldn't help but notice,Ginny's quite similar to teenage Lily Evans,apart from being redheaded,both didn't hesitate to tell off James and Harry-under completely different circumstances-for being prats,and they both seem to be pretty good at hiding crushes-I don't think Ginny's over Harry yet.Ok,does this belong in the romance thread?

Ginny is evolving into a strong character, and evidently, a strong witch. Mutant for Hire made a wonderful case for the development of Ginny. JKR didn't set out to make OotP a big, fat, heavy book, so those scenes are there for at least one reason. As Mutant for Hire pointed out, one reason was so that we could learn more about Ginny. I also think that some of the scenes may have deeper meanings, although exactly what, I don't know. Maybe it's a hint about a Ginny-Harry romance, or maybe there will be unexplained pranks, and we'll know Ms. Weasley is behind them. Ginny became my favorite character in this book, and I look forward to seeing more of her in the next two.

I'd love to see her hit Harry with a Bat-Bogey Hex :lol: the next time he behaves like a prat.Maybe that'll really make him see her as an equal-something he has trouble doing,esp. since she's not only a year junior to him,but also his best friend's youngest sibling and only sister.

That would be hilarious, Drusilla. It would sure show Harry. I mean, every bit of impressive magic that she's probably done has never been witnessed by Harry so he wouldn't know how good she actually is and can be.

Finally, a thread on Ginny Weasley! I haven't read all the posts yet but I am so excited I just had to post right away.

Did anyone else notice how much time JK spent developing Ginny's character in OotP? And that look Ron gave Harry at the end when he told Ginny to fnd someone better....this could be interesting.Ron seems to be droping a major hint to Harry. Which it look's like Harry doesn't get. I like that Ron is being a little protective of Ginny. He doesn't want Ginny to end up with someone bad. Which is really sweet!

Luthien(or Alisha)

Ginny doesn't use the same arguments as the other new additions to the group. Her argument for going in is ironically more of the same one that Harry himself uses, that she cares about Sirius a lot. It does a lot to establish herself as being a lot like Harry in some ways. It's also another opportunity for her to show that she doesn't rattle even when Harry is yelling at her and even Ron is trying to push her off.


And in more than one place in the book, when Harry, Ginny and Hermione are together and something amusing happens, it's Ginny that Harry makes eye contact with, trading an amusing look, not Hermione. Now I am not taking this for a romantic gesture in this instance, but it does indicate to me that the two of them can be on the same wavelength.

Exactly! Perfectly said!

Ginny and Harry seem to be on the same wavelength. I like the part where they share a look when Hermione bit back her remark to Luna in the hospital wing. It's like they were both thinking the same thing.

She strikes me as a feminine version of Fred and George's personality but with more purpose to the use of her skills and her common sense.

Her character development was massive. As massive as Harry's and Neville's but throughout the previous books you will already see glimpses of Ginny and Neville's stengths. So I wasn't really surprised, just happy to see her get more airtime.

I think Ginny will always have a special place in her heart for Harry. I just hope Harry realizes how perfect Ginny is for him before someone else snags her.

I think Ginny will always have a special place in her heart for Harry. I just hope Harry realizes how perfect Ginny is for him before someone else snags her.

Exactly, First loves die hard, yknow? I think if Ginny had the chance, she'd jump back on the Harry boat pretty fast :)

What about the time in PoA when Percy was showing off to Penelope Clearwater at the station and Harry caught Ginny's eye to s****** at him?Again,why Ginny?Why not Ron or the twins?Funny,the signs seem to be there but I don't want to read them because I know I'll be terribly disappointed if I allow myself to hope and it doesn't work out.

Ron seems to be droping a major hint to Harry. Which it look's like Harry doesn't get. I like that Ron is being a little protective of Ginny. He doesn't want Ginny to end up with someone bad. Which is really sweet!

Luthien(or Alisha)

Yeah, I think everyone got what Ron meant except Harry :) Ginny's love for Harry was at first sight, if we can say that. He noticed her interest at platform 9 3/4, his first time there. When she was kidnaped Harry didn't think a second about going to CoS and helping her.

I think Ginny is pretty - she had two different boyfriends this year and this is stunt Cho wouldn't be shamed of. But she seems not to care much about those Michael Corner, and I think she didn't conquer her affection to Harry, but she is more mature now and don't act like a kid, blushing everytime he is near. And I think Harry has the same feelings for her as for Hermione. And if something happened, he would realise who is more important for him.

And I love the way Ron acts his older-brother role. The way he was dead nervous when she was kidnapped and he is taken aback when he realised she is dating.
I always wanted to have older brother. Awhhh....

I think we all know that Ginny still likes Harry. But I like that she doesn't let her crush on Harry run her life. And is more mature, and outgoing then she was in the the first four books. Which just makes her so cool!

QUOTE]And I love the way Ron acts his older-brother role. The way he was dead nervous when she was kidnapped and he is taken aback when he realised she is dating.
I always wanted to have older brother. Awhhh....[/QUOTE]



Oh yes! I love Ron's Big-Brother role! I've always wanted a older brother too! I've got four sisters. And I've always dreamed of having an older brother.

I think eventually, Harry will have to notice Ginny.....by the way, I also love the eye contacts lol.

Exactly, First loves die hard, yknow? I think if Ginny had the chance, she'd jump back on the Harry boat pretty fast :)

I think she never lost the love she had for Harry. I think that given the clues that JKR has left. Ginny is perhaps angry at her own feelins and has lost all hope that Harry will ever like her. After the unexpected task and upon Ginny learning that Harry was after Cho. Ginny must have been devasted and decided to pick up the pieces and do her best at forget that Harry existed. But OoP proved that she didn't exactly lost her interest. It's still there is just being asleep waiting for Harry to wake it up. ;)

I think jkr wanted for Harry to earn Ginny. I mean if Ginny wouldn't have given up on Harry. Many people said that she was going to be as his feet upon Harry's first call. Well now if Harry wants Ginny. He will have to earn her love. Is not going to be handed to him because it was done and he never acknoledge it. So now is time that if he wants Ginny he sweats off a bit for it.

Gily Ann

I think we all know that Ginny still likes Harry. But I like that she doesn't let her crush on Harry run her life. And is more mature, and outgoing then she was in the the first four books. Which just makes her so cool!


Yes, that is so cool.

Yes, and I think Ginny wasn't angry about her Michael-Corner-boyfriend dating Cho, because it means Cho is not any more dating Harry.

Yes, and I think Ginny wasn't angry about her Michael-Corner-boyfriend dating Cho, because it means Cho is not any more dating Harry.
I think it was a bit of an ego hurt as well-she gave every indication that Michael's going out with Cho didn't hurt her emotionally at all,but it must have hurt at least a little,just from an ego point of view.

I totally agree with you. Even on CoS Ginny wasn't well developed and all the books after that her character grew really strong. She's great. She has a great personality and seems to be like part of the group (group=HP, RW, and HG). In the beginning i disliked her but now hav grown to love her character and i accept her as one of the main characters.

The trouble is,Harry sometimes seems to just forget her existence altogether-like he did at the time of the Yule Ball-he just didn't think of Ginny at all,or that she'd have been more than willing to go with him.And in Phoenix,when he was trying to make up his mind about whether to talk to Sirius or not,he thought of the twins and their diversion,but never of Ginny-who was the one to help set it up.A few more shockers like the one about Ginny being his replacement as Gryffindor Seeker might do Harry good.That said,Ginny's turning out to be enormously likable and I definitely want to see more of her in books 6 and 7.

I think she never lost the love she had for Harry. I think that given the clues that JKR has left. Ginny is perhaps angry at her own feelins and has lost all hope that Harry will ever like her. After the unexpected task and upon Ginny learning that Harry was after Cho. Ginny must have been devasted and decided to pick up the pieces and do her best at forget that Harry existed. But OoP proved that she didn't exactly lost her interest. It's still there is just being asleep waiting for Harry to wake it up. ;)

I think jkr wanted for Harry to earn Ginny. I mean if Ginny wouldn't have given up on Harry. Many people said that she was going to be as his feet upon Harry's first call. Well now if Harry wants Ginny. He will have to earn her love. Is not going to be handed to him because it was done and he never acknoledge it. So now is time that if he wants Ginny he sweats off a bit for it.

Gily Ann
I think that Ginny had a crush on Harry and it died. Ginny became friends with Harry. Then she fell in love with him with their friendship as a solid base. It is a much more mature lasting love that blossoms out of friendship

I don't think Ginny really changed, I think she "gave up on Harry" and expressed some confidence around him. I personally think that there were hints in the book about her true character when Harry wasn't around.....we got little clues in Books 1-4 and the Ginny we got in Book 5 was exactly the Ginny I pictured from the information we had. How many times in the books did it mention how Ginny giggled at Fred and Georges antics, at Bill and Charlie, or at the smaller things? She's lighthearted, as we saw in Book 5. She also seems to be caring, she even asked the twins not to tease Percy, she was extremely remorseful over the Chamber of Secrets, she went to the ball with Neville, and she was worried about the Seeker who got ploughed at the World Cup. She's also smart, spunky, and fun from what we've seen. And it my belief that she'll get Harry eventually. They would make a great couple, similar talents and likes, she can put him in his place when he needs it or be caring when necessary, and she can understand the evil that is Voldemort better than most other people. There's serious potential in their role on the Quidditch Team together, and now that they have had genuine conversations and hanging out time, I think Harry will be hard pressed not to notice her in the next two years.

i think tt ginny really improve alot. from little cute ginny to a serius one.she really has the skills to be a seeker and pheew she has a boyfriend too.well maybe ginny likes harry and who knows maybe harry has 3 choices in his mind

Yes at first Ginny liked Harry becasue he was famous Harry Potter, but if you re-read book one that was why Herminoe was frist drawn to him and Ron on the train. The things is what has changed now after five years?

Herminone in my opinion still has a bit of the like a person becasue they are famous thing. I mean if you look she dates the one guy whos probably more famous then Harry when she shows signs of not liking him as a girlfirend. Yes she and Harry are firends but she jumps in and acts more like a manager than someone in love. Her attaraction to Harry is obivous but I dont think theres much of a chance there. I dont know i feel like when she and Harry are together she likes to display they are best firends. Not intentionally on her part but I think this fame thing is there, and it will be a problem.

Ginny yes it started as that, but now you really see should care less about the fame and more about Harry as a person. To me that is an important evolution. She was willing to go to the wall for him and for Sirus which gives her a leg up over Herminone in the end.


I have to disagree with you about Hermione and the so-called fame attraction you say she has.It's true that she (like every other student at Hogwarts-including Ginny,and quite a few wizards outside it too) first knew Harry as the Boy Who Lived,but by the time they became friends,she'd quite clearly (to me,at least) started seeing him as Harry ,and that's the way it's been ever since.If she were really Harry's friend partly or only because of his fame,would she have stood by him over their fifth year,at a time when almost the entire wizarding world believed he was deranged and lying?
As for Viktor Krum,if you'll remember the relevant parts of GoF,Hermione wasn't the one making a huge fuss over him when he arrived,or even at the Quidditch World Cup-that was Ron.She liked him,I think,not for being a celebrity,but for being an otherwise normal person who had a lot of nonsense to deal with because he was famous (like Harry in a lot of ways) and appreciated that part.It wasn't ever the fame,for her.And I don't think Ginny's as starstruck by Harry as she was at first,either.She's grown up,and It's wonderful to get to know the real Ginny at long last.She can't take Hermione's place in Harry's life,but I hope she'll have her own,even if they don't date.

It's been wonderful to see Ginny grow up and come into her own-something that,in my opinion,was long overdue.It's also been good to see Harry take just a little bit more notice of her,and occasionally even respect her (Quidditch and chocolate,anyone?).Whether she dates Harry shouldn't matter,but it'd be good to see more of her in the next two books,as more than just Ron's little sister and the baby of the Weasley family.I'd wouldn't say no to seeing her in the role of confidante to Hermione,and occasional voice of reason to Harry.And yes,it's great to see her getting some hard-earned respect from Fred and George-I can't wait to see a Bat-Bogey Hex in operation!

I always felt that Ginny was going to turn out like this. It is the difference between being 9-10 when Harry first meets her to 11 when he rescues her from the Basalisk to 14 when she finally gives up having a crush on him. I think that JK laid the grounds in this book for them to have a relationship. It couldn't have gone anywhere until after she got over her crush and they could meet each other on equal grounds.

I don't think that it is a coincidence that she looks like his mother. I also think that JK is really heavily laying the ground for Harry to be another son to Molly and Arthur. I also think that just because she says it will be Dean Thomas doesn't mean that it will be. She could just be jerking Ron's chain.

I really like Ginny now after book 5. I really didn't care for her in book 2. Seems that now she's grown up into a young woman who has her own life with kids her own age, but still friends w/ hermione and harry and well ron's her brother, but you get what i mean. I think it would be cute to see Ginny and harry together, i think she just has a crush on him. She's not going to waste time thinking about him all the time, it's just one of those things that are i guess always there underneath. hmph.

I dont think Harry and Ginny will work out.. Although they would look pretty darn cute together ;)..

I think that the development of Ginny's character in HP was a stroke of genius by JKR. Her confidence and determination is wonderful, especially considering her shyness in the beginning.

I'm hoping Ginny and Harry will get together. It would be sooooo cute!

I agree. Rowling hinted in interviews that she would "introduce" a new love interest for Harry in Book 5, and I think having it be Ginny (obv. not a new character) is just the kind of twist she likes to pull. Not to mention that her name is a variant of Guinevere, which at least suggests that she could be a love interest for our hero.

In any case, I was really happy to have her and Luna get fleshed out in 5. *dying for book 6 to come out*!!!!!

I didn't read all the posts in this thread, so I apologize if someone already brought this up.

Do you think Ginny is an animagus? In OOTP JKR mentions at least twice the G is "curled up on the chair" at Sirius' house and "curled up on the bed" at the hospital.
Do you think she will be able to transform into a cat and she hasn't told anyone or doesn't know it?
And isn't it intersting that she plays with crookshanks, a cat with red hair?

There's an interesting argument in the Divinations Ginny thread (Ginny/Genevra and the "Sister Savior" Fairy Tale) ... I'd post a link to it here, but I don't know how. :sad: I can't remember who, but someone has an excellent post, comparing the scene with Ginny and Harry in CoS to traditional romantic fairy tales/folklore. (Hero kills dragon and rescues maiden ... very romantic!)

I love the idea of Ginny/cat, Ramones (great band, btw)! Perhaps Ginny's character is merely supposed to be "catlike" (mysterious, clever, agile). Nevertheless, remember the scene in book 1 or 2 where Ginny asks her mom where her jumper is and her mom says -- "it's on the cat, dear" (or something to that efect)? Ginny's been practicing quiddich on her brothers' brooms in secret ... who knows what she's managed to figure out on her own?

Thrilling!

I love Ginny... and I just want to see her happy and appreciated, and I would love to see more of her in books 6 and 7...

It is interesting how she brought Ginny back to the fifth book in the Harry Potter series. Do you think there are clus for her to becoming a seeker and having her boyfriend revealed in this book?

I like Ginny alot! I believe she has matured big time. She's no longer the silly girl in SS and CoS, but a budding young lady!

It's entirely possible Harry is going to need someone that understands what Voldemort is all about, plus a female touch. Ginny can provide both. ;)

Yeah... I'm an H/G shipper. How could you tell??

i think ginny's prominence in OoTP is great because it goes to reinforce how talented the weasley's are. i agree with hagrid442, ginny will be a powerful resource in the future as she knows more about LV than most, she was 'the girl who lived' lol

It was indeed very nice to know that, as a rule, Ginny is not the "damsel in distress" type most of the time.
However, she does appear to have become somewhat Slytherin-ish after Tom Riddle possessed her. Then again, Hermione and the twins Fred and George say that she has always been a bit wild.
Maybe that's why Voldemort couldn't take full control over her until nearly a year had passed? :)

Before OotP, I confess I didn't give much thought to Ginny. But in OotP I believe she really developed into a great character. Ginny has many qualities of her her older brothers, yet she's her own unique person. I really love the fact that she is a strong character, a bit stubborn, and willing to stand up to people when necessary. I also liked how she and Hermione seemed to be friendly with each other during GoF and OotP. I am looking forward to seeing more of Ginny in books six and seven.

She is probably going to be important in upcoming books as JKR changed her and made her important. She wasn't really important in the beginning, well in the CoS ofcourse, but she wasn't discussed that much in PoA and GoF; it was like she was laying low.

I agree with almost all of the postings up here, Ginny is maturing into a great character. She has the potential to be very useful in the next two books.(that makes me sad next two books...there are only two left! AHH!) And JKR points that fact out in the fifth book in adding the three other main characters, or rather making them bigger with the whole experience in the Department of Mysteries, making the trio into six. I think that all of them will combine thier efforts in future books.

What you have to remember is that Ginny has always been spunky and firey. We just haven't gotten to see it because she always clammed up around Harry. If you remember, Ron says something along the lines of, "She never shut up, normally" in CoS.

It's not that Ginny just blossomed into a girl with a spitfire personality. She's always had that kind of personality. She had to give up on her crush on Harry in order for us to see her clearly. :)

I loved it how she made Ginny one of the main characters.

I like it how, in a way, JK is comparing Hermione's and Ginny's crushes in CoS. They behave a lot alike around the objects of their affections, they both send valentines even. Jk was hiding the fact because she was leaving it as a clue that there was more to Ginny, just like there was more to Hermione than her crush on Lockhart. The only problem is Jk did it a little too well hidden and I only realised it now!

Good observation,rowansjet-I'm surprised we didn't spot the link earlier.I suppose no one really noticed,because Hermione's crush on Lockhart was only hinted at through the whole of CoS and we know there's more to her than that-the first thing you think of when you read Hermione's character isn't her crush on Lockhart ,while Ginny's crush on Harry was,for all intents and purposes,the thing that (besides the fact that she's a Weasley) defined her for us-Ron's little sister who has a crush on Harry.I'm glad that isn't the case anymore,though-that singing Valentine really did make me wince.

I've always liked Ginny and was glad there was more of her in OotP. I don't think she's changed that much, I mean everyone changes abit over the years but you still keep your basic personality. Hermione and Ginny have been friends for quite some time and I don't think they would have gotten along so well if she was shy and giggley-headed all the time. Also Hermione and Ron didn't seemed surprised over the way she acted in OotP, so she must have always been like that when Harry wasn't around. Speaking of Harry, I don't think there's much chance for him and Ginny as he stated more then once that she wasn't somebody he admired or gave much credit too.

Ok, I've just come to this post, but I think that Ginny and Harry might have a chance. Also, it would give to a good love plot. Sure Ron now wants Ginny to go out with Harry, but being protective and a teenager, he'd probably feel differently if it really happened. Like I'm sure he'd wig out if he saw those two snogging (kissing). Ok, now that I'm getting into this love thing, I'm going over to the "Who's going to fall in love with who" board, bye!

Sorry if I'm a little off subject.

See,even if he doesn't go out with her or fall in love with her or anything,it'll still be brilliant to see Ginny get more page space because she's a character who's really come into her own over the course of OotP.It's rather funny,thinking of Ron's reaction to Ginny dating anyone at all-though there's no real evidence to indicate that Harry and Ginny will get together at any point in the future,so it'd probably be better not to dwell on that point here-there's a thread for that,and it's the Love Thread.

It's really great how she's developed, and shes really fun to read about. I like the way she mirrors some of the Fred and George-isms. Also she has some Molly looks down too. Shes a true Weasley.

Yup, and Ginny also changed a lot

Ginny's such a great character and she's matured quite a bit....she reminds me more and more of the twins everytime I read the books...especially in OotP...somebody said it in another thread...I can't remeber who it was or which thread it was
but Ginny has become "Hot property"...she building up a list of guys she's dated and she's only 14!
Anyway, she's responsible for some of the best one liners in the book..next to Fred and George...
"The thing about growing up with Fred and George is that you start to think anything's possible if you've got the nerve."
Brilliant!

Ginny's such a great character and she's matured quite a bit....she reminds me more and more of the twins everytime I read the books...especially in OotP...somebody said it in another thread...I can't remeber who it was or which thread it was
but Ginny has become "Hot property"...she building up a list of guys she's dated and she's only 14!
Anyway, she's responsible for some of the best one liners in the book..next to Fred and George...
"The thing about growing up with Fred and George is that you start to think anything's possible if you've got the nerve."
Brilliant!

Ginny has grown up quite alot considering that she was already dating 2 boys at once at her age. She's going to end up being like Fred and George when she gets older.

JKR did a 360 on Ginny and I hated that. It was soo contrived - all of a sudden Ginny became this super cool and tough character. Oh and wow, she's also good at hexing, stole brooms from fred and george and we find all these about her from other people! It's as if JKR had realized how much she'd neglected Ginny and she's trying to make up by dumping information on us in one book. Sorry, didn't work for me. It was completely unconvincing. I didnt care for Ginny, now I hate her.

I don't agree with that at all. Ginny's been like that all along but Harry just never got to see it before. Now she's over him/ given up on him, he has.

I love Ginny she is so cool. I love the way she doesn't talk about how Tom was to her she is not living off of the thought that she almost killed all her friends because of Tom. But she is still willing to talk about it. Because of Tom her Mishievious side was held back by Tom but it was always there. I love how she can lie to people and no one notices she is lying.

Plus her brother is HOT! (by that i mean Ron)

If Ginny did a 360°, wouldn't she have not changed at all? lol Maybe 180° ;) Either way, I liked her. She was funny when she was scared of Harry, now she's all sassy and stuff! lol I really don't think this is the case myself... but maybe she is overcompensating? Maybe she still feels for Harry and is showing off by being with all different people, and by being extra-confident around him.

Ginny has become "Hot property"...she building up a list of guys she's dated and she's only 14!


Hey, we don't even know if she was actually going out with Dean Thomas or if she said that just to annoy Ron ( I'm sure Hermione told her just how Ron reacted to the news that his little sister was dating ). And as for "hot property"-Hermione was going out with someone when she was fourteen, so it's really silly to say things like "Ginny's a flirt"-there isn't any evidence to prove that. I agree totally with the rest of your post, though, Kelfa , even if you were quoting someone else in the part that I disagreed with.
One thing I'd like to know about Ginny is how she relates to each of her brothers. We know Ron's very protective of her ( witness the aforementioned reaction to the news that she's dating ) and she seems quite close to him, too ( Yule Ball rejection by Fleur- even if she did find it funny, she tried not to hurt his feelings by making that obvious ).We know that she practically hero-worships Bill and his opinion matters a lot to her ( CoS- she'd wanted to come to Hogwarts "ever since Bill came" and OotP-she treated his opinion of Snape like it was the final word on the subject ). We know, after OotP, that she's proved she shares a gene pool with the twins, and that they ended up being something of an inspiration to her. Her relationships with Charlie and Percy are the ones that haven't been given as much page space so far as the others, though I suspect that Percy's just as sanctimonious ( yet occasionally caring ) with her as we've seen him be with Ron, and she's probably just as fond of Charlie as she is of Bill.
All right, I'm rambling.

We know that she practically hero-worships Bill and his opinion matters a lot to her ( CoS- she'd wanted to come to Hogwarts "ever since Bill came" and OotP-she treated his opinion of Snape like it was the final word on the subject ). We know, after OotP, that she's proved she shares a gene pool with the twins, and that they ended up being something of an inspiration to her.

I think of Ginny as a mix of the Weasley brothers.
She likes Bill very much (we don't know him very well, I don't know if they are similar). I'm sure she's a good Quidditch player like Charlie, Fred and George.
And she definitely is a bit rebellious like Fred and George.

I never cared for Ginny very much, we never saw her and as mentioned before, we only know her for her crush on Harry.
Maybe she was always like this, but Jo never found the room to develop her character. I have to admit that I like her a lot more now.

i think that hemione has really helped ginny develop. she is ginny's confidant about harry and stealing the george and fred's broomsticks. though in the newer books ginny speaks up and stuns us with her wit, hermione helps to push ginny's newfound character. i think that ginny and harry will definately get together. it just seems right.

:welcome: to the boards, bottleneckgreen ! I think Hermione'd be a brilliant friend to anyone (except maybe Pansy Parkinson :lol: ) and in a way, Ginny is probably the only girl at Hogwarts she seems to be close to-she was definitely the only person to whom Hermione divulged the identity of her Yule Ball date, for one thing.
About Ginny and Hermione- I think they're good friends, Ginny's told her things about herself that no one else knew (broom shed spunkiness, anyone?) and it looks like each is much-needed source of female companionship for the other- Parvati and Lavender don't seem like they'd ever be Hermione's best friends, Luna Lovegood is in another house, and I'm sure they got tired of all the boyishness around them sometimes- six brothers, two male best friends-I think they'd be grateful for each other's company sometimes, even if they do care a lot about the Weasley brothers and Harry.

I like Ginny as a character. She's not as extreme as Hermione with school, but she's not like her brother Ron *cough* lazy *cough* and I'm happy that she's kind of a part of the trio, but not too much, which is good. The trio has a bond that started before she went to Hogwarts, so she shouldn't always be hanging out with them. Also this might give the chance for Harry and her to get together, since they haven't yet formed a best friend relationship, so there would be no "weird" moments. I'm not making any sense am I?

Question: Do you think she stills loves Harry deep in side or is she over him for good?
And as this is not the love site I am not shipping. I am only talking about Ginny's feelings here. Not about Harry's feelings.

Other thought: I think Ginny's character is meant, among other things to contrast hermione's character.
Ginny is boyish, she is a rebel, she likes to take risks without questioning, she likes to play jokes. She is quite interesting and lovely.
I like how fiercely she is and how strongly she defends her ideas. In COS she defends Harry in front of Mr. Malfoy.
In OOTp she defends Neville in front of his low self-esteem.

What do you think made her fell in love with harry in the first place? If you think that she was really in love and it wasn't just a teenager crush.

Yup it looked like JKR was gearing to Harry Ginny couple

Question: Do you think she stills loves Harry deep in side or is she over him for good?
And as this is not the love site I am not shipping. I am only talking about Ginny's feelings here. Not about Harry's feelings.


I think initially it was a schoolgirl crush, but I think it has/will develop into something deeper. I don't think she's "over" Harry. As Hermione says, Ginny has "given up" on Harry. That is an important distinction in my opinion.

I never cared for Ginny very much, we never saw her and as mentioned before, we only know her for her crush on Harry.
Maybe she was always like this, but Jo never found the room to develop her character. I have to admit that I like her a lot more now.

I don't think it's that JKR didn't have room to develop her character, I think that Ginny has purposefully been kept on the back burner for a while (except in CoS when she played a little bit of a larger role.)

And I don't think that Ginny's personality has changed. We have to remember that we are reading these stories from Harry's point of view. Ginny was always quiet around harry because of her crush on him, but even ron says something like, "You don't know how weird this is for her, she never shuts up normally." I think that Ginny is maturing and is able to speak in front of Harry, so we finally get to see her true personality. Think about it: she's been sneaking the boys' brooms out of the broomshed for years... so she's always been a little daring, a little "fred & george." :) I have to say she's one of my favorite characters.

gottalovelupin ,you're right, this could be a borderline LT post but as a former Chocolatier who still likes Ginny a lot,I'll do my best:
I think the wording is something to be taken note of: Hermione said Ginny had given up on Harry, not that she'd got over him. If this means Ginny is still subconsciously interested in Harry, it could do two things- not that I'm saying it will
1) Indicate Ginny's continued non-platonic interest in Harry
2) Sink the Harry/Hermione pairing, because of who the information came from- if Hermione was actually interested in Harry that way, why wouldn't she just tell Harry Ginny'd got over him?

I think Ginny's initial infatuation with Harry had its origins in hero-worship, that much at least is clear enough from the first time we see her at King's Cross as a little girl, asking to get on the train to see him. But it probably became a bigger, much more long-lasting crush after she actually got to know what he was really like- thanks, I think, in part to Ron and to Harry's stay at the Burrow in the summer of their second year.
Hope that helped.

I think Ginny has become a great character. I wouldn't be supprised if her and Harry got together in one of the last two books. I have a feeling after the Cho thing went away Harry might be thinking a little more about Ginny, and we all know Ginny still has a little bit of a crush still going on.

i'd like to see ginny and harry together but i really think that it'll be luna. when i first read OotP i thought her personality came out of nowhere but after rereading the others i noticed how much you see her always hanging around fred and george or hermionie and that she does stand up for herself, so i think she's always been like that, we just hadn't the chance to see it.

I didn't really notice the developing of ginny's character but it's obvious that Ron want's Harry to get together with Ginny.

I actually think Ginny does like Harry, but Harry so far hasent really showed any signsof likeing her. Im sure if Harry started to like her that mabe they would go out. What would Ron say. lol. Mabe as the next two books they will hook up, but if they dont thats ok to. It is his best friends sister after all.

Well, I didn't want to get into the discussion: who will pair up with whom.
My question wasn't if Ginny will remain with harry, cause this is not the subject of this thread. And we already have 30 versions of Who will fall in love with whom.

I thought this may be considered an All about Ginny Weasley thread and i thought that we could talk about her, among other things about her, and only her feelings fpr Harry.
I didn't ask abput Harry's feelings.

oh, well i guess no one will be interested in talking about ginny.I should give up!

Question: Do you think she stills loves Harry deep in side or is she over him for good?
I think she still has feelings for Harry. She gave up on the thought that he won't notice her that way and didn't sit around to pined for him, but noticed that she never gave up with him. She ride with him in the train for Hogwarts and not with her then boyfriend Michael because Ron and Hermione has a prefect duties and Harry will be alone. She seeked him out in the library because she knew that he was feeling down and she comforted him and gave him hope. She talked about her possession (which I think is a sore subject for her ) so that Harry can have a peace of mind that he's not being possessed.


Other thought: I think Ginny's character is meant, among other things to contrast hermione's character.
I disagree on this one. Luna is the contrast to Hermione's character. Ginny, on the other hand, is the contrast to Cho's character. Notice how many time they were compared in OOTP?

Ginny is boyish, she is a rebel, she likes to take risks without questioning, she likes to play jokes. She is quite interesting and lovely.
That she is. She's a very interesting character. She continuosly suprised Harry and yet she's still an enigma. The other's role in the series are quite defined but Ginny's still shrouded in mystery.

I like how fiercely she is and how strongly she defends her ideas. In COS she defends Harry in front of Mr. Malfoy.
In OOTp she defends Neville in front of his low self-esteem.
She has a way with people too. She's friends with Luna (whom everyone thinks is loony), she brought in "new" people into Harry's life. She gets along with almost everybody.

I think she still has feelings for Harry. She gave up on the thought that he won't notice her that way and didn't sit around to pined for him, but noticed that she never gave up with him. Per Hermione: Ginny used to fancy Harry and gave up on him months ago. On the other hand, I could really care less if she still indeed has feelings for Harry, but the fact that Harry never encouraged her crush on him says a lot that he sees her only as Ron's little sister.


She ride with him in the train for Hogwarts and not with her then boyfriend Michael because Ron and Hermione has a prefect duties and Harry will be alone. I'm under the impression that Ginny got together with Michael as soon as the school year started. It was never implied that she started dating Michael in GoF. Hence, obviously, she would sit with her circle of friends on the way to Hogwarts.

She seeked him out in the library because she knew that he was feeling down and she comforted him and gave him hope. How so? How did she know he was feeling down? She didn't even know this until she sees him slightly perturbed in the library. She went to look for him to give him her mom, Molly's, chocolate snitches for Harry.

She talked about her possession (which I think is a sore subject for her ) so that Harry can have a peace of mind that he's not being possessed. It wasn't only her effort to give Harry this peace of mind. Hermione instigated the idea of getting Harry out of his self-imprisonment in Grimmauld. Ginny merely gave the supporting role on this bit. She didn't have enough concern for him to get him of out his isolation in the first place.

I disagree on this one. Luna is the contrast to Hermione's character. Ginny, on the other hand, is the contrast to Cho's character. Notice how many time they were compared in OOTP? The only comparison between Ginny and Cho is Quidditch and nothing else. And I don't think this comparison is any good to use to support a H/G pairing considering Cho is jealous of Hermione, not Ginny. I don't think Cho even cares an iota as to who Ginny is.

That she is. She's a very interesting character. She continuosly suprised Harry and yet she's still an enigma. The other's role in the series are quite defined but Ginny's still shrouded in mystery. Everyone's role in the series is shrouded in mystery, not just Ginny's. Tell me who exactly has a defined role.

She has a way with people too. She's friends with Luna (whom everyone thinks is loony), she brought in "new" people into Harry's life. She gets along with almost everybody. Ginny bringing Luna to Harry is not exactly indicative of the " new people" you are talking about. What about Hermione's effort of mulling the idea for Harry's Dumbledore's Army? Wasn't she the one who brought him people, and let alone people from and outside of the Gryffindor House?

In IMHO, Ginny will certainly play her biggest role toward the ending of the series, but I don't think it will overshadow Hermione, Ron, and even Neville's roles in the future. Even Luna at the moment seems to have more of an influence in Harry than Ginny does. She's become the female version of Fred and George and really, it's nice to see a comic relief coming from a female this time around. I believe that her giving up on her star-struck-to-hero-Harry crush is a nice evolution. It meant Ginny is becoming her own person, starting to become known not as the youngest Weasley who had a huge crush on the Boy-Who-Lived, but the real Ginny Weasley known for her own distinctive bona fide role in the series.

I was rather surprised at just how much Ginny came out of her shell in OotP. It was great. It was interestingto see how much she acted like Fred and George (you know, that mischievous streak). It looks like she is going to follow in their footsteps more than any of her other brothers.

Maybe this has been noted already in earlier pages, but I was fascinated by the fact that Hermione and Ginny seemed to become very good friends in OotP. Ginny is the only girl (according to my memory) that we see Hermione talk to a lot....as if they were really good friends. She talks to other girls, but she seems to actually be friends with Ginny. What does everyone else think about this friendship? Why has this one come to the forefront? After all, Ginny could have always been "Ron's little sister".

Ginny Weasly happens to be my favorite character. I like the way that JK makes her a very powerful femenine role in the stories. Besides from Hermione, she is the only girl that really stands out in the plot. She has come from being a shy girl with a crush, to a fighter in Harry's Army against Voldemort. She is very girly (from her romantic hookups) but yet has the guts to stand up to Harry and Ron. She treats them like equals, and only Hermione seems to do that (of people their age) she now isn't embarrassed or shy as she used to be. I believe that she will have a very important role in the upcoming books, even as a secondary character. Her resemblance to Fred and George is true, however she uses her wits for more useful purposes than just causing mischieve. I don't know if she will end up with Harry or not but she certainly seems to be at his level.

The only comparison between Ginny and Cho is Quidditch and nothing else. And I don't think this comparison is any good to use to support a H/G pairing considering Cho is jealous of Hermione, not Ginny. I don't think Cho even cares an iota as to who Ginny is.

Mmm, I got that impression from OotP as well. I don't think Cho can be compared to Ginny in any way really, except that Harry sees more sense in Ginny and Hermione (I'm not going to wave a flag for a ship for either!) than in Cho. To me, Ginny seems more mature and grounded than Cho, or at least more sensible. Though, Cho does have her reasons I suppose.

I think Ginny is definately coming into her character well, and I think she will play an important part in the last two books, as much as Luna, Neville will also. But for different reasons...

As for Ginny and Hermione's relationship...I think its actually quite a normal development. They were friends in GoF, and b/c they are the only girls when the weasley's and co are staying together, I fu=ind it quite a normal development. Also a natural development, cause they both know about the Order and co, and are in the same boat...

As the only red-headed girl anywhere NEAR Harry's age, Ginny definitely needs to hook up with one of the main characters. As she can't really hook up with her own brother and I don't think she swings towards Hermione (although that might make an interesting fanfic), Harry's really it. Unless Harry and Hermione go together.

Err....why does the fact that Ginny has red hair indicate that she should hook up with one of the main characters? :huh:

I was just about to ask the same thing. I'm not really sure what the point of that is.

Because red-haired girls are the best girls. Except perhaps intelligent, courageous ones. ^.^

Per Hermione: Ginny used to fancy Harry and gave up on him months ago. On the other hand, I could really care less if she still indeed has feelings for Harry, but the fact that Harry never encouraged her crush on him says a lot that he sees her only as Ron's little sister.
So what's your point? I'm answering the question asked by gottalovelupin if I think if Ginny still has feelings for Harry. :huh:


I'm under the impression that Ginny got together with Michael as soon as the school year started. It was never implied that she started dating Michael in GoF. Hence, obviously, she would sit with her circle of friends on the way to Hogwarts.
Not quite. As Hermione said they met at the Yule Ball and got together at the end of last year, Ginny's going out with Michael before school starts.

How so? How did she know he was feeling down? She didn't even know this until she sees him slightly perturbed in the library. She went to look for him to give him her mom, Molly's, chocolate snitches for Harry.
Yes she did! She said that Harry seemed to be really down lately and told him if she only talked to Cho and you know the rest, I'm sure.

It wasn't only her effort to give Harry this peace of mind. Hermione instigated the idea of getting Harry out of his self-imprisonment in Grimmauld. Ginny merely gave the supporting role on this bit. She didn't have enough concern for him to get him of out his isolation in the first place.
Whatever. The fact that it was after Ginny's word which lightens his heart not when Hermione made him come out that matters.

The only comparison between Ginny and Cho is Quidditch and nothing else.
Let's see: naming of the DA, Quidditch Cup match-up, doing well in disarming spell and most importantly, Cho getting Ginny's cast-off.

And I don't think this comparison is any good to use to support a H/G pairing considering Cho is jealous of Hermione, not Ginny. I don't think Cho even cares an iota as to who Ginny is.
Who cares if Cho is jealous of Hermione. Harry just laugh off the idea :rotfl: . Who cares if Cho doesn't care about Ginny, Cho's not important to the series.

Everyone's role in the series is shrouded in mystery, not just Ginny's. Tell me who exactly has a defined role.
Ron/Hermione- pillar of support for Harry. Neville, Harry's twin in Prophecy, Luna, guide for the mystical things, Dumbledore, the mentor need I go on?

Ginny bringing Luna to Harry is not exactly indicative of the " new people" you are talking about.
Excuse me? Wasn't Luna made an impact in the story and actually accompanied Harry and the others to the DoM?

What about Hermione's effort of mulling the idea for Harry's Dumbledore's Army? Wasn't she the one who brought him people, and let alone people from and outside of the Gryffindor House?
So what's your point? I'm not comparing Hermione and Ginny. Might I add that the DA was not Hermione's sole idea too.

In IMHO, Ginny will certainly play her biggest role toward the ending of the series, but I don't think it will overshadow Hermione, Ron, and even Neville's roles in the future.
LOL! We'll see.

Maybe this has been noted already in earlier pages, but I was fascinated by the fact that Hermione and Ginny seemed to become very good friends in OotP.

It wasn't just in OOTP, though. Hermione put a comforting arm round Ginny after the Dementors visited the train in POA, and they discussed their Yule Ball dates in GOF.

Does Ginny still have a romantic interest in Harry? I can't tell, personally; if she does, it's a more mature sort than her previous hero-worship. I think Ginny's experience with Voldemort in COS makes her an important source of support for Harry, and it would be a shame if too many raging hormones got in the way.

godrics_ Heiress,
my dear this is not the love thread.
We aren't here to discuss if Ginny will pair up with harry.
We are here to discuss about Ginny.
This means, to talk about all kind of things in regard to this girl. Among these things there are also her, and only her feelings for Harry.
We are not talking about Harry's feelings for her and we are not talking about whether they will get together or not.

I repeat, we are here to talk about Ginny. About Ginny's actions, about Ginny's feelings, about Ginny's ideas.
If you can't care less about her or about her feelings, please feel free to not post on this thread.

i posted on the love thread. I just want to talk about Ginny now, cause I really like her and I need to find out what people think about her- people who are not a H/Hr shipper, cause they hate her for no reason-

Is it possible to do this?


Ginny has really come in front in OOTp. I really wonder why JKR did this, which are her plans with Ginny.

But she was quite a lovely presence in OOTP. I like how she is described as being a female equivalent of the twins.
Their: " He got out, he got out! " it's just hilarious

And so is the fact that she used to steel their brooms and practice on them.
this last fact proves that Ginny, as JKR said, has always been like this: a little boyish, with a lot of personality, fierceless. it's just that her crush for Harry didn't alowed us to see these aspects, which is a pitty.

I love how the twins are impressed by her. I think it can't be too easy to be the smallest child of such a big family and moreover to be the only girl. Yes, she is probably very well taken care of, but in the same time she probably has to fight against too much protectiveness from all her brothers and against the label her family put on her: our little sister or our little girl.
I think everyone in that family treat her like this: like a small, sweet child who needs protection and being taken care of.
for a person so independent as Ginny it can't be too easy. she must have been trying really hard to find and affirm her own identity.

She is not only the little sister. she is much more than this: she is a very inteligent girl, she is a very good witch- I like how Ron is impressed by the hex she performed on Malfoy- she is a very good quidditch player- I like how the twins are impressed by her- she is mischief and she is very brave and fights for justice.

I like how she defends Neville and Harry. In a way, she is very much like Hr. Defending the ones who don't protect themselves either because they can't or because they don't know how do it.
Hermione fights for the elf's liberty- although they haven't asked for it- and Ginny sticks to Luna-who is considered weird- and for Neville- who is considered useless.

I like the fact that she doesn't have prejudices against people and get along very well with a lot of people.

Ginny has become an extremely strong female. I wonder if she only developed this in the last book, or if she was like that before and we just weren't allowed to see it? I'm rather inclined to think that she grew up a bit and simply became comfortable with herself. She does not seem to came whether she is popular or not. She hangs out with a lot of people who are considered nutters....like Luna. Ginny simply does whatever she wants and seems much happier than she has in past books.

Yeah.....I really like the fact that she is so similar to the twins (in some ways). Makes her that much more interesting.