All about Remus Lupin

I know this is a bit late, but I found the part where Harry mistakes Remus for Sirius. It's on page 669 in the American version of OotP (in the chapter called "Career Advice"):

"Feeling rather sick and as though he was wearing an exceptionally hot muffler around his head, Harry opened his eyes to find that he was looking up out of the kitchen fireplace at the long, wooken table, where a man sat poring over a piece of parchment.
"Sirius?"
The man jumped and looked around. It was not Sirius, but Lupin."

I'm not really sure of its significance. Much of what J.K. Rowling writes cannot be disregarded because she obviously loves to shed new light on previous ideas that seemed trivial at the time. Maybe it is a kind of symbolism/foreshadowing that Remus will replace Sirius as Harry's father figure. Then again, it could just be a simple case of mistaken identity on Harry's part.

That article was very interesting, but I still find it hard to believe that Remus is the cold, manipulative character that the author of that article makes him out to be. Though I guess his personality is open for a lot of debate since he hardly ever shows his true feelings in the books.

Originally posted by mel (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=476622#post476622))
I don't think JKR will kill him though, because Marauder killing has already been done, twice. It'll be cliche if she kills Moony, right? Right? :sorry:


Yes... yes it has become.... cliche.

Ahem. Really, he's isn't going to die, but I guess all the codsmacking talk has become something regular to the Lupin fan genre (anyone who's visted this thread at least). That image is brilliant, by the way... do you mind if I steal it? :D

I wonder what he said to the werewolf in Mr. Weasley's room at St. Mungo's.

I have a half-baked theory that somehow Lupin is going to recruit dozens of werewoves into the Order, and he will somehow lead all of the werewolves into rebellion against Umbridge and her half-breed decrees so that he can finally get a job.. but of course, Remus himself won't need one, he'll be rich from the thousands of Galleons Sirius left him. ...Oh yeah, and then he'll find a cure for werewolf-ism.. and become Minister of Magic and... Wait, what was I talking about? (trying to bring up this thread so it doesn't get lost and forgotten is a real poo to your brain)...

Anyway, I think that he'll somehow try and work against all those decrees that make it impossible for werewolves to get a job. Any thoughts? :p

Yay Finally I post something that sparks debate.

Lol congrats Lupin's Ladee^-^ thats something I've not managed to achieve in any of the forums I've visited - Im just too easily swayed by other people's good arguments^-^;

I would def like to know why Lupin thought it was OK that Sirius, Lilly, and James thought he was the spy.

Well werewolves are associated with the dark side aren't they? he'd be the obvious one to assume went bad...but I'm thinking that they all suspected each other so it wasn't anything personal...at least I hope not...although syaing that- how could anyone suspect lovely Lupin of doing anything bad *grins*
Anywho I agree with Puffskein and Lestrange- Lupin would forgive them for thinking bad of him..because he loves them all too much not to.


Lupin is one of my favorite characters, if not my most favorite character. I don't really "fancy" him, I mean he's a lot like my dad so that would be a bit weird. But he does fit in with many of my ideas of what the ideal man should be. And like someone else on this thread mentioned, his character is extremely sympathetic. You can't help but love the guy!

ah you've hit the spot Mel^-^ my sentiments exactly....except, well he is nothing at all like my dad....:sigh:

and I love the cod-smack smilie mind if I use it on my sig? ^-^..oh and how do you get it?...there is a one similar on another forum which is just :codsmack: but that isnt working here...

Maybe it is a kind of symbolism/foreshadowing that Remus will replace Sirius as Harry's father figure.

good point scarlet tears! I was thinking the same thing..it'd be interetsing if it turns out to be true ne?

I have a half-baked theory that somehow Lupin is going to recruit dozens of werewoves into the Order, and he will somehow lead all of the werewolves into rebellion against Umbridge and her half-breed decrees so that he can finally get a job.. but of course, Remus himself won't need one, he'll be rich from the thousands of Galleons Sirius left him. ...Oh yeah, and then he'll find a cure for werewolf-ism.. and become Minister of Magic and...

Brillient Lestrange- :clappy: I love it!
If you just take out the bit about Sirius' galleons and the werewolf cure..oh and the minister of magic thing, I think you could be onto something....
maybe dumbledore has put Lupin in charge of a 'order' mission after all! :D

Wait, what was I talking about? (trying to bring up this thread so it doesn't get lost and forgotten is a real poo to your brain)...

what are you tlaking about! lol I'm havinga nightmare to keep us as it is :p jk the more lupin stuff the better!! shame about annoying time zones which mean Im asleep when most of the posts are happening...I have a right old search for the thread in the morning...

^-^v

(can you tell I'm hyper at just figuring out how to quote properly?)

Originally posted by Lestrange (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=476715#post476715))
That image is brilliant, by the way... do you mind if I steal it? :D
I don't mind because I stole it myself from someone who stole it from someone else. :D I got it from this page (http://www.simonsgroup.com/siteimages/s/smilies.html), which has a bunch of fantastic smilies on it. The fish-smacking one seemed so pertinent to this thread I just had to use it. I put it on here using the [img] code, aeterna_kai. :)

I have a half-baked theory that somehow Lupin is going to recruit dozens of werewoves into the Order, and he will somehow lead all of the werewolves into rebellion against Umbridge and her half-breed decrees so that he can finally get a job.. but of course, Remus himself won't need one, he'll be rich from the thousands of Galleons Sirius left him. ...Oh yeah, and then he'll find a cure for werewolf-ism.. and become Minister of Magic and... Wait, what was I talking about?
Seriously, I think Lupin could have a series to himself.

Anyway, I think that he'll somehow try and work against all those decrees that make it impossible for werewolves to get a job. Any thoughts?
Lupin doesn't seem the type to lead political movements, you know? And seeing as these stories are about Harry Potter's 7 years at Hogwarts, even if he did found a S.P.W.W., we wouldn't know about it. :sigh:

i love love love lupin! That said, I did not catch his reaction to sirius (sniff sniff) the first time around, but the second time I read it, I bawled my eyes out. I forgot poor lupin has just lost his last really good (school) friend. My big fear now is now that we all no longer have sirius(sniff sniff) I know at least I will become even more attached to lupin and I would imagine so will harry. This in itself is not a bad thing but I fear lupin will not survive this series (wormtail has a SILVER hand). Poor harry, poor lupin, poor us!

Lol, aeterna_kai, I love "The Big Squishy Group Hugs For Lupin Society" in your signature! Hmmm...TBSGHFLS is a strange acronym, though. Oh well! *squishes into the group hug* :grouphug:

Don't worry, moon781. Remus will live. The Cod Squad will make sure of it!

Originally posted by aeterna_kai (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=476667#post476667))

Ah thankies Loopy-san!^-^



Is that me? I have a nickname?! YAY!:D And no problemo, Aeterna.:) It's a little odd that Ms. Rowling would reveal that big a part of the plot, but she must have sensed the animosity from the Lupin lovers...;)

"The Big Squishy Group Hugs For Lupin Society":grouphug:

I LOVE it! I'm putting that in my siggy straight away, if that's all right. Three members and counting, if I'm not mistaken!:)

Wow mel, that page has some pretty awesome smilies! http://www.simonsgroup.com/siteimages/s/troutslap.gif Hehe, mind if I join the Cod Squad? The only body of water that I live near (sort of) is Lake Michigan, but I'm sure one could find some nice, big, smelly fish there!

I am also really curious as to Remus' reaction to the prank Sirius pulled in their seventh year. I mean, if he had bitten Snape, he probably would have been in a lot of trouble with the Ministry. Come to think of it, I wonder if the Ministry even knew about what Dumbledore was doing. I'm sure he would be in a lot of trouble himself, if that were the case.

Just out of curiosity, where does it say that Remus was thought to initially be a traitor...?

In PoA, Sirius tells Lupin that he didn't tell him Peter was secret keeper because he though Lupin was the spy.

But I never thought of how Lupin reacted to Sirius' prank. He was probably very angry, but I think he expected something like this from Sirius so I don't think he was surprised.

Poor guy, I feel so sorry for him, it's not his fault he's a werewolf. I wonder how he gets food and clothes if he doesn't have a job? Did he perhaps borrow money from Sirius?

"The Big Squishy Group Hugs For Lupin Society" :grouphug:

Is there some free space for me?

:D I'm glad you all like the new society!! Lol Of course its oki Loopy! (ah yes you do have a nickname now lol oh and hey so do I ;) ) and plenty of room for ya Insomnia!
Squish in squish in...lol i love the word squish...:)

Lol yeah it would make quite a complex acronym wouldn't it...but writing it out infull is better anywho *squish*
Are you joining in the society too scarlet tears?



It's a little odd that Ms. Rowling would reveal that big a part of the plot, but she must have sensed the animosity from the Lupin lovers

Lol thats she probably did!..I mean you can see all the unhappy fans at Sirius' death can't you?...she wouldn't want twice that would she?...I'm going for a 'nah' on that one..Lupin will be just fine *smiles hopefully*

Thankies Mel! Those smilies are great!!!:D


Seriously, I think Lupin could have a series to himself.

...I can dream:o

hehe

oh and vicky girl4 thats a good point...I mean in the end of gof dumbledore tells Sirius to lie low at Lupin's for a while...
where does the guy live? Surely he'd have trouble affording somewhere wouldn't he?...it couldn't have been very nice if he then moved into 12 grimmauld place with sirius at the least ne?
maybe his parents left him some money or something....I wonder if they're even dead?

I wonder if he'd have a brother that would be introduce to us in the next book.

Yeah,i want to know where he lives too.It's kind of mysterious. There's not much in the books about his private life. But wherever he lives, it must be quite isolated, near a forest or maybe covered by trees ...in case it's time of the month again .. :)

Lupin rules!! i know a lot of people will get mad at him for not standing up to James and Sirius. i think he should have, but consider, he finally has gotten friends and wants to keep them. A sort of similar situation has happened to me before. A girl on my soccer team was calling one of my friends "trailer park trash" and it made me really mad. But i was afraid to stand up to the girl. Now i really really wish i did stand up to her, and if it happens again i will! So i can see where Lupin was coming from. And btw, do u mind if i join the group hug and become a member of the "The Big Squishy Group Hugs For Lupin Society" ?????????? =)

And btw, do u mind if i join the group hug and become a member of the "The Big Squishy Group Hugs For Lupin Society" ?????????? =)

ah of course I don't mind!! hehe *drags sadie into the group hug* :grouphug:

hehe I think i've started something here ne?

*hugs Lupin*

I've just started re-reading the firts book...and I'd totally forgotten that hagrid mentions meeting Sirius when he went for Harry :sigh: and to think a few hours later..Sirus would be in azkaban and wormtail hiding in the swears...and Moony? Boy i wish we knew what happened to Lupin! I wonder if he was questioned or anything!!

Are you joining in the society too scarlet tears?

If it's all right with you guys, I'd love to!

Yup yup of course^-^

*bounces off to change the member numbers again*

I'm sure I'll get board of adding to it eventually but its nice to see how many people support Lupin at mugglenet... isnt it?.. :smile: or am I being st00pid?:sorry:

*drags thread from the bowels of the Order of Phoenix Section*

I hope he doesn't have a brother.

If his name turned out to be Romulus, like in the mythology where --Remus is killed by his brother Romulus--, I'd probably go clinically insane and throw my book into a garbage disposal. Anyway, I don't think that he has any family that's still alive, that's part of why he so lonely and poor. I mean, I doubt that his parents would have disowned him, since they were extremely happy that he got into Hogwarts, they didn't want to lock him away from society or anything.

Heh, I bet he had one of those over-protective mothers (like Molly) that spoils the kid rotten. Remember how he once gave the excuse that his mother was 'sick' when he went to transform? I bet no one saw it in the least bit strange that he would go and visit his mommy. How cute. :p

Thanx a ton!!! *bounces* i'll put my membership in my siggy next time i'm on!!! =)

*piles on somemore Post-wood to keep the Lupin Thread Burning*

That would be awful...if he did have a brother named Romulus *cries* Poor Lupin has enough enemies as it is!..we could always send the cod squad after Romulus :bite: hehe


Heh, I bet he had one of those over-protective mothers (like Molly) that spoils the kid rotten. Remember how he once gave the excuse that his mother was 'sick' when he went to transform? I bet no one saw it in the least bit strange that he would go and visit his mommy. How cute.

ah Lolololol! yeah that would be funny^-^ aww can't you just imagine Mrs Lupin on the first day of school trying to smarten ickle Remus up-getting out the tissues to clean his face and trying to flatten his hair *grins*...although I imagine Remus would have always looked rather presentable back in the day...he must miss his parents a lot...oh woe is he-the poor guy; I just relaised he must have lost them too!:sigh:

ps- Lestrange how do you get those lovely neon colours for text in your sig! I'm useless with code - but it looks so pretty *eyes sparkle* hehe

Ooh good question about where he lives... Is that where he was during Goblet of Fire? What was he doing during that time anyway? And what exactly is he doing for the Order?

I see him more as an only child for some reason... probably because he seems so lonely. I really wonder what happened to his parents though. Were they killed? Did he accidently kill them? God that would be awful.

A note about using the smilies: the guy who hosts the smilies page will know if too much bandwidth is being sucked away by this forum, he's a computer whiz. Every time the image shows up using his address, it uses his bandwidth. So if we really want to start using these smilies, I suggest we start a smilies thread somewhere here so that CoS can host them. That way we won't find that he has blocked us from using them one day...

Also, I think we should put a link back to this thread in the Cod Squad signatures, so people will know what it's about and how to join. Here's an idea! We could start a Cod Squad information thread somewhere and host the codsmack smilie from there! What do you think?

*nods* he was at his home wherever that may be during the goblet of fire...
ya know it would have been nice to see him turn up for harry's final task with Sirius- you know when the families of the champions were allowed to spectate?
Sirius was there in animagus form...I wonder why Lupin didn't come with...maybe it was a full moon.

I really wonder what happened to his parents though. Were they killed? Did he accidently kill them?

Oh that really would be bad...but I think if he had done that Lupin may be just a little less...erm mentally stable..heh...than he is now. He's got to be surviving somehow- perhaps one of his parents is still alive...Lupin can't work afterall hum it'd be interesting to meet Mr and/or Mrs Lupin wouldn't it?

Do you reckon Remus will ever find his own Mrs Lupin?...I mean hes such a great guy...he deserves a wife^-^ hehe...maybe a wolf animagus ne?

I suggest we start a smilies thread somewhere here so that CoS can host them. That way we won't find that he has blocked us from using them one day...

thats a good idea- but erm..how do we do it? ^-^;



Also, I think we should put a link back to this thread in the Cod Squad signatures, so people will know what it's about and how to join. Here's an idea! We could start a Cod Squad information thread somewhere and host the codsmack smilie from there! What do you think?

I think thats a brilliant idea!! :clappy: but again- haven't the foggiest how to do it!
It'd be good to do the same for the 'big squishy group hugs for lupin society' also..but link the other thread-the remus lupin appreciation thread for that one!

Originally posted by mel (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=479068#post479068))
Also, I think we should put a link back to this thread in the Cod Squad signatures, so people will know what it's about and how to join. Here's an idea! We could start a Cod Squad information thread somewhere and host the codsmack smilie from there! What do you think?


Lol, I don't know, I didn't start the Cod Squad.. It actually all started when Cat said that she would hit J.K. with a oversized Cod if anything happened to Lupin, we might have to ask her. I also haven't the foggiest on how to have CoS forums host the smilie. Anyway, we haven't been using it that much, have we? We don't need our own thread, we have this one. :D

aeterna_kai, I tried to pm you twice about the signature thing, but it's not working (well, on my side it isn't). Go here: Signature Testing Thread (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9735) and it'll say stuff on the first page about the sparkly stuff.

I don't think that Remus killed his parents, that would be *so* sad, even for him. I think that they just died. I still see him as a momma's boy, though. :p

Well, we could host the image on this thread then... I'll do it by attaching the image to this post. Then right click on this image, choose Properties, then copy the URL (EDIT: I've added it below) and use that between the [img] tags. I wouldn't be worried if it was just on one or two posts, but if it is on people's signatures it will show up every time someone views any post you've ever made. :) That would add up to a lot.

EDIT:
here is the new, CoS-hosted URL - http://www.cosforums.com/attachment.php?postid=479313
:D

Very neat, thanks a bunch mel!:)

Oh man, if Lupin ended up killing his own parents... That would just be awful! He already has a lot of trouble living with his sense of guilt, I think something horrible like that would have pushed him over the edge...

[i]originally posted by Aeterna Kai:

Do you reckon Remus will ever find his own Mrs Lupin?...I mean hes such a great guy...he deserves a wife^-^ hehe...maybe a wolf animagus ne? [i]

Well, there's no question he deserves it!:D But I think that Ms. Rowling may have it written in stone that his character is just not allowed to be happy... I mean, killing off his two best friends, getting him sacked and exposed as a werewolf... she seems to have it in for dear ol Remus.:'( Life is just too unfair to him!

*Hugs Lupin. Lupin gasps for air...*:P

Thankies Mel! I've changed the img address all user friendly now^-^



Originally posted by Loopy4Lupin (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=479443#post479443))

Well, there's no question he deserves it!:D But I think that Ms. Rowling may have it written in stone that his character is just not allowed to be happy... I mean, killing off his two best friends, getting him sacked and exposed as a werewolf... she seems to have it in for dear ol Remus.:'( Life is just too unfair to him!


Lol I think you could be right!...ya know they say you hurt the ones you love...Lupin must really be her near to favourestest character in the world considering all shes put the guy through...I'm amazed he still actually manages to smile sometimes..I mean at least sirius had an outlet for all his misery-he just beats up on snape or yelled at kreacher...but poor Lupin was much too nice for that hum...
I seriously think its a miricle lupin's lastest this long...sanity wise of course.

*Hugs Lupin. Lupin gasps for air...*:P

Lol yes now do be gentle Loopy-we wouldn't wanna suffacate the poor werewolf ^-^;;

Awww..if only Lupin were real...he'd sure have a lot of friends then!

Ooohh...I wanna squish Lupin too!!

Ah then squish away Summergrl! :grouphug:

hehe

ah if only Lupin were real...:sigh:
Lol

its so bizzare...I jus can't imagine lupin as being the same age as my dad *shakes head* its just weird!...hum...keep seeing him as a cute teenage Remus...:o

gack!...oki no more harry potter for me for a while... *blinks*

lupin must live lol on the cod squad i am counting on you guys lol

and i love the idea of the squishy group hugs society so clever so cute

Originally posted by moon781 (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=479589#post479589))

and i love the idea of the squishy group hugs society so clever so cute


Yeah, it's so cute!:D I said something about cuddly lupin needing a hug, and Aterena got the great idea of making a group! You can join too, if you like. Just put it in your siggy!:)

Always room for more on the Lupin group hug... just don't suffocate the guy!;)

I seriously think its a miricle lupin's lastest this long...sanity wise of course.

I really admire Lupin for that exact reason. Remus has been through so much suffering during his relatively short life that I can hardly imagine how hard it must have been for him. He has had to undergo the painful transformation of becoming a werewolf since he was very young, and as an adult he has difficulty finding a job because of what he is. Later he had to endure the loss of his best friend to Voldemort. On top of that, he was led to believe that his other best friend, Sirius, had been responsible for James' death, and that Sirius was working for Voldemort. Then he (supposedly) lost his last best friend, Peter, to Sirius, and he was left alone for thirteen years. Finally, in PoA when he discovered that Sirius was not on Voldemort's side, and that Peter (who was still alive) had been the real traitor, Wormtail was able to escape because he hadn't taken his potion, and Sirius' name was never cleared. Now, Bellatrix has claimed the life of his only remaining childhood friend, and he is left only with the mere memories of those happier times in school.

How Remus' tortured soul has remained sane throughout this painful endeavor is a question we may never know the answer to. Not only that, but he has maintained the same strength of character that helped him through this terrible time and managed to retain his optimistic nature. He is a kind, gentle, compassionate person who deserves so much more than what life has handed to him.

Yup yup of course^-^

Thank you so much aeterna_kai! *squish* :grouphug:

Scarlet Tears, nice post. I sometimes wonder wether Lupin will just crack and just go on a rampage at the injustice that's been done to him, as well as to his loved ones....Poor guy.

He is a kind, gentle, compassionate person who deserves so much more than what life has handed to him.

How true :( I really don't see what's in store for him in the future as well. Think Wormtail will be involved? Not just the theory that his silver hand will kill him, but more along the terms that Lupin will kill Wormtail. As the last of the Marauders, something has to happen to him or be done by him that is quite significant. But as to what....I just don't know.

I love Lupin!

I Love Lupin!!

I LOVE LUPIN!!!

Ok, this is a rather pointless post but I can't help it. I want to join The Big Squishy Group Hugs For Lupin Society. He's a guy who deserves lots of hugs.

My heart will break if JK decides to off him in the future books. Did I mention that I love Lupin?

Scarlet Tears, I'd say that he still has friends. He still has the rest of the Order afterall, Tonks, Dumbledore etc... And if they're not around, he can always cry on Snape's shoulder. They can sob together (I know, Snape hated Sirius, but now he has no one to fight with-- now thats a terrible loss ;)). I hope that in the next book Harry and Lupin sob together in a room, or something. I really want to see him show a little more emotion than he does.

By the way, mel, thanks for fixing the image for us. I changed mine, so now it's all user-friendly and I won't get attacked in the night by some mad computer geek (I mean that in the nicest way possible, of course..:scared: ).

I would just like to say I LOVE Lupin! yay!
With that out of the way..
I do think that Lupin will become Harry's confidant.... I mean, Sirius's most important role was being a shoulder for Harry to lean on. Without someone like that, I think he would totally crack. Also, I totally feel for Lupin. What makes me most sad is thinking of him living for those 13 years thinking that Sirius killed James and Peter. Man, that must have been horrible. But, I have to say that even though I know he was absolutly crushed by Sirius's death, I think he probably accepted it. I mean, the whole Order joined knowing that they could all die any minute of any day, and I think that he would be the kind of person that could mourn, and yet accept that Sirius died the way he wanted to. I'm not saying that I don't think Lupin was upset. I'm sure he was. But I also think he knew the possibilities when he joined the Order.

I also want to know what he's doing for the Order! It seems to me he's doing some really important stuff!

Also, I'd like to comment on the Umbridge thing, when Sirius said "You should hear Lupin talk about her" (not exact quote). To me, I think this means that Lupin totally has the capacity to bust up on people that tick him off. He's the kind of person that's nice, and warm, and fuzzy to everyone.......until you make him mad......LOL. I would really like him to be that way. It's always the nice quite ones that surprise you!

Well, I feel like I had something else to say, but forgot it! Ah well, I'll edit later......

Originally posted by Lupinsgrl (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=479896#post479896))
Also, I'd like to comment on the Umbridge thing, when Sirius said "You should hear Lupin talk about her" (not exact quote). To me, I think this means that Lupin totally has the capacity to bust up on people that tick him off. He's the kind of person that's nice, and warm, and fuzzy to everyone.......until you make him mad......LOL. I would really like him to be that way. It's always the nice quite ones that surprise you!


I'd love to hear Lupin rant and rave about her. I think that since Sirius was such a good friend to Remus, that he totally felt comfortable yelling and being angry and non-pleasent with Sirius. Plus, the way Sirius acted was practically contagious. Speaking of seeing him mad, I'd like to see him duel. He didn't in the Department of Mysteries scene, did he?

Originally posted by Lestrange (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=479178#post479178))
Lol, I don't know, I didn't start the Cod Squad.. It actually all started when Cat said that she would hit J.K. with a oversized Cod if anything happened to Lupin, we might have to ask her.


Good grief, I've started a movement. Sure, do whatever it is you want to do. But I'm only in it for the joy of the slap of the fish.

***

I know it's morbid, but I wonder if we'll ever find out whether Lupin has ever killed somebody while in wolf form? Or if he's ever cursed some other poor sod with a bite from his Big Bad Wolf teeth?

I now have this tremendulosly huge goofy grin stuck on my face..a bit like this: :D

hehe Its so lovely to see loads of people liking Lupin isn't it!!
*smiles*

and of course gyrffindorkeeper - join in join in!

you too Moon!

^-^Theres no need to ask really everyone is welcome! as Loopy said- just add it to your sig!..oh and let me know you've *squished* your way in so i can add to member numbers!

Yeah, it's so cute! I said something about cuddly lupin needing a hug, and Aterena got the great idea of making a group!

lol aha true true- so then Im not completely responsible if lupin lovers suffacate the poor thing since it was partly your idea as well Loopy! *yey*

Lol the weird thing is in the other thread- 'all about remus lupin' we're all talking very seriously and rather morbid like...and in here its just mad squishy hugs bouncing everywhere!

...so in honour of continuing the pointless joy...when do you think Lupin's birthday is?...he seems like a Libra to me..so I'm guessing between 23rd september to 23rd october....^-^

How many Lupin Societies are now? I'd like to join one of them...

Poor Lupin. He lost James so many years ago and now Sirius. Who will be his best friend now? Harry? Mad Eye Moody? Tonks?

I don't know, about that, but I know that I feel very much sorry for him (and Harry, as well)... Poor, Moony... *sniffs*

I find it highly doubtful. The only times he was near poeple to bite he either had the Marauders around him (school), or he basically followed his bait right into the Forbidden Forest (PoA--He goes after the kids and ends up in the Forest without prey). Otherwise, he's shunned.

When I got to the bit about the werewolf in the hospital I thought, "OMIGOD! HE HASN'T BITTEN SOMEONE HAS HE?!"

I love that Big Squishy Group Hug Society idea. He really needs one!

From a literary-analyst's perspective, Lupin is one of JKR's greatest creations because he is drawn with immense subtlety. There's nothing cartoonish or melodramatic about him. He doesn't show his feelings by shouting and weeping, but with small changes in his face and voice. (McGonagall is a subtle character too, but her emotions seem to be simpler.)

Some examples:
- His movement to grip Harry's arm when talking about Dementors.
- His strange voice when Harry heard James
- The suppressed emotion in his voice when talking to Sirius
- The famous odd shiver when he admits he's a werewolf
- The hardened face and self-disgust in his voice when explaining why he didn't tell Dumbledore about Sirius
- He looked very concerned when Harry was talking in the fire
- The pain in his voice after Sirius died
- All his slight frowns (which I find kinda cute)

So Lupin isn't cold-blooded or unfeeling, he's SUBTLE. And I, for one, like him that way.

Originally posted by Lupinsgrl (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=479896#post479896))
Also, I'd like to comment on the Umbridge thing, when Sirius said "You should hear Lupin talk about her" (not exact quote). To me, I think this means that Lupin totally has the capacity to bust up on people that tick him off.
That's a really good point Lupinsgrl. After all, we are seeing this from Harry's point of view, we don't know really know what Lupin is like when its just him and Sirius alone, being old pals. Well, we do know a little bit, from the Penseive... I don't think he would rant/rave/yell though. He craves acceptance, and yelling is the last way he thinks he can get it. Letting himself go like that would mean he has the confidence that people will accept whatever comes out, and I don't think he has that confidence. That's why he is always calm, agreeable, and passive, because that's his safest bet.

But perhaps with Sirius, with all his friend has done for him, Lupin knows him and trusts him enough to be completely open around him. Which would make Sirius's death even sadder, because I don't know if there is anyone else alive Lupin could be himself around. He doesn't have an outlet. I don't think Harry will take Sirius's place in that, because Lupin feels a certain responsibility for him, and Harry is just a child. Lupin's not like Sirius, he doesn't hope that Harry will be the new James. I think Lupin might become a sort of mentor to Harry. A role model.

Originally posted by Cat (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=480026#post480026))
I know it's morbid, but I wonder if we'll ever find out whether Lupin has ever killed somebody while in wolf form? Or if he's ever cursed some other poor sod with a bite from his Big Bad Wolf teeth?
Perhaps. He was bitten when he was very young, before he came to school, so he didn't always have the Marauders to guard him, jordmundt. And what about the first time he transformed? Was anyone expecting it? Was he (and his parents) prepared? We don't know. He may have done some horrible things.

I am glad J.K brought him back...I was upset when he wasnt in book four. im re-reading ootp and just passed the part where Lupin and the others come to get harry and he just shaked Harry's hand and asks how he is. he does the same at the end and says he'll see him soon or something and I think pats his back or something like that....he is a shy kind of character with reason since he has been looked at his whole life for being a werewolf but I wish he'd just grab Harry and hug him lol him just not shake his hand or pat his back.

Also, I'd like to comment on the Umbridge thing, when Sirius said "You should hear Lupin talk about her" (not exact quote). To me, I think this means that Lupin totally has the capacity to bust up on people that tick him off. He's the kind of person that's nice, and warm, and fuzzy to everyone.......until you make him mad......

Good point Lupingrl! It would have been lovely to see more of that side of Lupin - and good addition to the point Mel - i don't imagine he'd rant, rave and yell either...as Puffskein said, Lupin is much more subtle than that...I do imagine a few dark looks and curses towards Umbridge but nothing like what Sirius for example would do...i.e. yell loudly at the topof his voice to everyone who would listen just how much he despises Umbridge^-^

Its nice to think that at least with Sirius ( and before james and peter too) he could just be a little bit more relaxed...I still don't think he was entirely unsubtle and brash with them mind...there would still have been a part of himself he kept back. But i don't think..especially in adult -life mainly in book 5 that Lupin held back much from Sirius.

Lestrange: He did duel in the final battle in ootp, we just don't get much detail...it says all of the order were reigning spells down on the death eaters...and then just as Malfoy was going to attack harry- Lupin jumped down in between them...I'm guessing Lupin and Malfoy then fought it out, but we're not really told.

it'd be nice to see him in a real duel^-^ as long as he wins it!

actually...i hope that little scene wans't foreshadowing anything...a few seconds before hand sirius had just steped in to save harry and then he died...sirius and lupin were the only two to protect harry like that while in the death room.

Great points on Lupin's subtley btw puffskein!.. I love him that way also - its a huge part of his character..and because he is so self restrained it makes him more lovable..and huggable-although I can quite imagine Lupin beging rather uncomfortable in a big squishy group hug he doesnt seem the type who is used to be close to others(making his hug with sirius in poa all the more cute)...I think we can squish any uncomfortabl-ness out of him eventually tho^-^

Because of the subtley you really have to watch him closely incase you miss something.

Lupin knows him and trusts him enough to be completely open around him. Which would make Sirius's death even sadder, because I don't know if there is anyone else alive Lupin could be himself around. He doesn't have an outlet.

that does indeed make Sirius' death even worse for Lupin...even if he does have other friends, the ones he was closest to have all gone...I imagine Lupin is going to be feeling quite lonely in future books...which may perhaps be an insentive for him to be closer to harry...not, as you said mel in order to make harry the new james, but instead to form another relationship in which he can at least be a little bit of himself.

I don't imagine Lupin will have taken a bite out of anyone else...i just think that if he had he wouldn't be quite as calm as he is in the books...something like that is possibly more tramatic than anything else - to kill someone or curse them like that I mean.

I would love to see Lupin, just once go wild and just let it all out - I know whats it like to be so reserved that no matter how much you wanna just give someone a hug or let off some steam you can't - its so frustrating.
But at the same as im wishing Lupin would be a little more out going...I wouldn't change him for anything; his subtly makes him more interesting and adorable really^-^

-btw I love the piccie of Lupin you have in your sig Gaurdian angel!

Originally posted by mel (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=480732#post480732))
After all, we are seeing this from Harry's point of view, we don't know really know what Lupin is like when its just him and Sirius alone, being old pals. Well, we do know a little bit, from the Penseive... I don't think he would rant/rave/yell though.


I'd like to see him like that, though. Just once (which is what I meant to say in my last post, but eh, whatever...). Just see him let it all out. I mean, he deserves to. He can't get a job because of something that he can't control, the one job that he did get, he resigned from because he knew that people would hate him for being a werewolf. His best friends from childhood, well, two are dead and one is a traitor, I mean the list goes on.

I just want to see him participate in a little emotional-free-for-all, for once. I mean, it's not like he isn't justified in doing so. *sigh* But I suppose it'd be against his character, wouldn't it?

:lol: I guess it's just the way I imagine Sirius saying that (You should hear Remus talk about her). Like, it was unusual for Sirius to see Lupin that P.O.'ed. ...I'd like to see him let out some of his anger on Mrs. Black, maybe.

Hey, here's a thought: Maybe any repressed anger that he might have is let out when he transforms once a month, like indirectly maybe.

Originally posted by aeterna_kai (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=480967#post480967))
I imagine Lupin is going to be feeling quite lonely in future books...which may perhaps be an insentive for him to be closer to harry...not, as you said mel in order to make harry the new james, but instead to form another relationship in which he can at least be a little bit of himself.
I think this indeed could happen, but not while Harry is young. When he becomes an adult I think their relationship can be closer (or at least a different kind of closeness, where they are on the same level), because I think then Harry will be in control of his anger and more mature, and then I think Lupin can have an egalitarian relationship with him.

Well, I don't know, maybe they will now. I guess I have a hard time seeing Lupin come down to Harry's level, like Sirius did. You know what I mean? I'm not sure I'm explaining this right. :shrug: It's like, right now Harry is a child, so Lupin has to be the adult. When they are both adults, Lupin won't have to do that, he can just be himself. Harry will be able to be on his own, an individual, and they will view each other as peers.

Originally posted by Lestrange (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=481047#post481047))
Hey, here's a thought: Maybe any repressed anger that he might have is let out when he transforms once a month, like indirectly maybe.
Yeah... but I bet it would make him feel guilty for wanting to hurt people, or for getting any type of satisfaction from being in that form. You know who Lupin reminds me of? Angel from Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Anyone here ever watch that show?

can I join the The Big Squishy Group Hugs For Lupin Society"?:'(

Originally posted by Mander (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=481237#post481237))
can I join the The Big Squishy Group Hugs For Lupin Society"?:'(


it's not up to me, but i'm pretty sure they'll say yes so don't fret or anything!;)
it's nice to see a lot of Moony fans!!:clappy:

Originally posted by Mander (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=481237#post481237))
can I join the The Big Squishy Group Hugs For Lupin Society"?:'(


*pulls Mander into the group hug* :grouphug:

ah don't cry! squish!

^-^v

yeah I'd like to see Lupin just blow a gasket once^-^, it'd be an interesting experience..although completely out of character!

I think you're probably right about him blowing off steam in werewolf form tho lestrange.

I guess it's just the way I imagine Sirius saying that (You should hear Remus talk about her). Like, it was unusual for Sirius to see Lupin that P.O.'ed.

*grins* that just sounds funny..can you imagine Sirius' reaction if Lupin really got mad?...knowing Sirius he'd probably start laughing or something...but hey if hermione can slap draco accross the face maybe there is still hope for Lupin ne?

I guess I have a hard time seeing Lupin come down to Harry's level, like Sirius did.

yeah I see what you mean Mel...and I think thats the only barrier for lupin and harry's further friendship etc..so once harry is older it would be easier^-^

and yup I definately see the Angel form buffy/ Lupin parrallels!

I have often wondered about the whole "gap" between Harry and Lupin that Mel talks about. It seems like he wants to get closer to Harry, but at the same time feels like it's kind of his duty to be the "adult." But I kind of thought that it was because he didn't want to encroach on Sirius's and Harry's realtionship. Maybe this will change, although I see it as a kind of difficult transition for Lupin. I think that Harry really needs Lupin to be there on an emotional level, and I think Lupin will rise to the occasion. I remember when I first found out about Sirius's death, the first thing I said (through sobs. lol) was I hope Lupin takes care of him.

But I have a questions that's been bugging me. How will Harry refer to Lupin now? I know he called him "Professor" in the beginning of book 5, but he's going to be more than a teacher! And he's not really his teacher anymore..... Any thoughts?

That's a good question. Do you think he'll call him "Remus"? He's been refered to as Lupin as so long, it would be a little awkward hearing Harry call him that. But he calls DD Dumbledore so I guess it wouldn't be that weird for him to call Lupin by his last name.

I want Lupin to take care of Harry too, but I think it will be tricky to write without seeming out of character or forced. I'm sure JKR will do it. I'm sure she knows a lot of people want Lupin to step in too, which makes me wonder if she will do something else, just to surprise us.

Scarlet Tears, I'd say that he still has friends. He still has the rest of the Order afterall, Tonks, Dumbledore etc... And if they're not around, he can always cry on Snape's shoulder. They can sob together (I know, Snape hated Sirius, but now he has no one to fight with-- now thats a terrible loss ).

Of course Remus has friends, I was just referring to the friends from his school days with the Marauders. Sorry if I didn't make that clear! :o

Lol, I have trouble imagining him crying on Snape's shoulder. For some reason, Snape just doesn't come across as a warm, fuzzy, cry-on-my-shoulder kind of guy, but maybe that's just my impression! ;)

I agree with what you said, mel, about Remus having trouble coming down to Harry's level. I mean, he seemed to be the more "mature" one in his group of friends (at least from what we saw in the Pensieve), and I just can't imagine that he would encourage Harry to do something that would put his safety at risk. Sirius had more trouble with that because, as Molly I believe pointed out, he saw so much of James in Harry that he can't help but want to go back to his days at Hogwarts. Remus, on the other hand, understands that James and Harry are two different people, and that as the adult he must watch out for Harry's well-being.

Although I'm terribly sad about Sirius' death, the one good thing that may come about as a result is a growth in the bond between Harry and Remus. I think that if Remus is willing to step up and become a father figure for Harry, he will prove to be a wonderful role model for him.

Originally posted by Cat (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=388791#post388791))
Lupin should become a councillor for werewolves or something. He'd make a great councillor.

I couldn't agree more with you. he's so peacefull and nice.

You read my thoughts Scarlet Tears, I'm grieved about sirius.. who isn't. but perhaps, Harry will become beter friends with Lupin.

ehhh...me-wants-6th-book:banghead:

...so in honour of continuing the pointless joy...when do you think Lupin's birthday is?...he seems like a Libra to me..so I'm guessing between 23rd september to 23rd october....^-^

Hmmm... October 16 sounds good to me (wonder why! lol :D) I wish J.K. Rowling would give us more of the characters' birthdays, then we could have huge celebrations all the time!

I would love to see Lupin, just once go wild and just let it all out - I know whats it like to be so reserved that no matter how much you wanna just give someone a hug or let off some steam you can't - its so frustrating.

I know, I feel the same way. It amazes me how Remus can be so calm all the time, even during the scene with Peter in the Shrieking Shack and when Sirius died. Lestrange mentioned in the other Lupin thread that maybe his anger comes out when he changes into a werewolf every full moon, which seems like a plausible theory.

Yay Moony fans! 13 members in the Big Squishy Group Hugs for Lupin Society? Eeek! The first one of us to leave will be the next one to die :scared: (sorry, Trelawney seems to have invaded my mind at that moment!)

Hey all my Lupin-lovers...I've been reading this fan fic "The Sin of Lycaos" that is focused on Lupin during Harry's 4th year w/ the Triwizard Tourney and everything. It's very dark and at times morbid...it has A LOT to do w/ werewolf rights and discrimination. Lupin is beyond tragic in this story. But I recommend it b/c it is VERY VERY well written...reminds me quite a bit of "Crime and Punishment."

It involves Lupin getting drunk during a full moon and biting an innocent little girl, and after she becomes his pup. The writing is amazing like I said, and it is VERY long, and has a sequel ("Wolf By Ears") which I have started to read, which takes place immediately after the first story. It portrays all the characters thoughts very well, very fitting w/ J.K.'s portrayels thus far. The ending of the first story is bound to make you cry. I recommend reading it very slowly. Harry is barely in it at all, and the parts where he is fits 100% w/ what is written in the 4th book...you'll see what I mean.

And I am saying right now...you will HATE the ministry as portrayed here.

http://www.schnoogle.com/authorLinks/D_M_P/

and for a bit of Lupin/marauder-lite which you will need after this story, check out "Marauder's Stories" in the Library here in the CoS forums.

Just helpin' out my fellow Lupin fans to get more Lupinness (it's not a word, but it should be)

Originally posted by mel (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=481048#post481048))
Yeah... but I bet it would make him feel guilty for wanting to hurt people, or for getting any type of satisfaction from being in that form.


I mean subconciously, though. Like the reason why he doesn't explode is because once a month he becomes a horrible beast that seeks flesh, you know, it's not like he enjoys attacking, or saves his rage for the full moon or something. I definetly don't think he'd get any satisfation from it all, I was just saying that.. um, well this is a strange example, so bear with me.

Okies, here goes, um, you know how some people force themselves to be a certain way? And bottle up the way that they would normally react? Well, one day, that person may gradually find a way to let loose, subconciously, they have different personalities, and they pretty much become, well, schitzopherinic to let their emotions out.

Now, I'm not saying that Remus has split personalites, but that's kinda what being a werewolf is, it's a whole other side to that's completely horrible and evil, different from your personality. That's (er, sort of) the point that I was making. Eh, just a strange comparison that I thought of. :)

Scarlet Tears, it's okay I just really wanted to stick in that bit about crying on Snape's shoulder. I think that it's backlash from hanging out in the Snape threads too long. :D

Emily Rose may have a point about VL targetting those close to Harry. James, Lily, and Sirius were all important in Harry's eyes. Right now he may not see Remus as being important to him let alone a father figure.

My hope is that Remus will recogize this pattern and keep his distance as he has been so far. If he doesn't become too close to Harry he has a better chance of protecting him and being there for him when this Second War is over.

I dont know, I mean about Lupin bottling his emotions and eventually changing his personality.

He is what? 40ish right now? He has had to be a "grown up" for most of his life, dealing with the emotions that come out due to the whole werewolf thing, and then later on with James and Siruis acting so imature. He strikes me as an old soul, someone who is not quick to judge, very level headed, you know? I cant see him being able to bottle his emotions for so many years and still be relitively the same person he was at Hogwarts.

And it is not like he hasent dealt with loss before, i.e. 15 years ago when he thought that two of his best friends were killed because of the third. He did not do anything irrational then, and i dont see him doing anythying like that now.

And in the third book, where he was talking about the transformations that he went through every month, he said something about when Siruis and James were with him as animagus, his mind became less wolf like. He started to think more human like. And from what I remember about Fantastical Beasts, werewolves seek out humans to kill because it's their nature in that state. I dont know if he could use this as a means of letting go of his anger because it seems like he cant control his emotions in that state. And when he could (taking the potion that Snape makes for him) he curled up in his office like a nice dog.

Personally, I dont think that Lupin is one to lash out with his anger because it is just not his personality. He is just to rational to let the heat of the moment controle him.

Originally posted by silvermoon (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=482414#post482414))
I dont know, I mean about Lupin bottling his emotions and eventually changing his personality.


Um, silvermoon, apparently you misunderstood me. I never said that Lupin's personality would change because of his loss or being a werewolf (I mean, he's been on for quite a while now...). Hmm. I suppose I used a bad comparison for my post. I guess I'll have to change it.

What I really meant is that being a werewolf is kind of like the anger in his personality, the evil in it, and because he is able to be uncontrolled for a one full moon once a month, he's never angry.

Originally posted by Lestrange (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=482463#post482463))
being a werewolf is kind of like the anger his his personality, the evil in it, and because he is able to be uncontrolled for a one full moon once a month, he's never angry.


That's interesting. It makes sense to me. During those moments when Lupin has no control over his emotions or actions he lets all of the anger he may feel (from the death of Sirius? or whatever he may be angry about) out. That could explain his "passive-ness" sometimes. That could be a neat side effect of being a werewolf.

Did anyone notice that Lupin was reading a letter and had a worried look on his face when Harry came up to speak to Sirius in the kitchen fireplace, about his mother. What could have happened which would make Lupin pose a gloomy expression?

I just reread PoA and remembered how much Lupin rules! Harry really owes him a lot showing how to do the Patronus. Is Snape still making his potion? I don't remember any mention of it come to think of it...

Oooo. I wanna join "The Big Squishy Group Hugs For Lupin Society" :D
Lupin's now my favourite character now that Sirius is gone :'( (although Padfoot will always have a special place in my heart :crush: )

:grouphug: This is for you Moony!

I just reread PoA and remembered how much Lupin rules! Harry really owes him a lot showing how to do the Patronus. Is Snape still making his potion? I don't remember any mention of it come to think of it...

Yes, Severus is still making him his potion. And now when they are both in the Order they can meet each other (I don't say they want to... :))and Sev can give Remus the potion, etc... There aren't many wizards who can make this potion after all, so...

As much as I would love to see it happening, I'm not to sure Lupin will become closer to harry..not as close as we would all like at least - partly because of his nature; it would take lupin a long time to adjust to having a completely different role towards harry and also- it would be more dangerous for the both of them if they did.
I do see Harry turning to Lupin more for support, but not to the extent he did to Sirius...I don't know why but I think maybe Mcgonagal will actually become closer to harry- or dumbledore himself will take over Sirius' role.
Unless of course Lupin takes over teaching again then maybe.

But i don't like my theory- so i think I'll go along with you guys and say Lupin will get closer to harry and be an excellent mentor and or father figure!:D
besides...we all know that Lupin cares deeply for harry - when sirius and molly were arguing over him and Lupin told molly off saying she wasn't the only one who cared about harry...and then his concern and near outrage when harry told them snape had stopped the occlumency lessons *grins* so cute

" I'm coming up there to have a word with Snape!" said Sirius forcefully, and he actually made a move to stand up, but Lupin wrenched him back down again.
"If anyone's going to tell snape it will be me!" he said firmly

I can't imagine Harry calling Lupin, Remus it would be weird^-^ hehe, I think he'll probably just drop the professor bit...don't see why he'd have continued to use it after they left hogwarts anywho *shrugs*
Imagine if harry called him Moony! ;)

What could have happened which would make Lupin pose a gloomy expression?

-It didn't say the Lupin's expression was gloomy^-^; or not in my edition at least. Though I did wonder about the parchment he was 'pouring' over! I'm betting it was some work for the order...maybe a progress report or something?

ah that scene is so adorable^-^ Sirius and Lupin, the concerned 'parentals' and then all that lovely reminicence :sigh: bless them both!

Lol Oct 16th wouldn't happen to be your birthday now would it Scarlet tears? ;)
lol don't blame you mind...probably the reason Lupin seems like a libra to me..is because I'm one too ^-^; - 27th september!

13 members in the Big Squishy Group Hugs for Lupin Society? Eeek! The first one of us to leave will be the next one to die

Lol! I thought the exact same thing when I put that down!
Luckily we now have 14 so we're safe! - welcome to the squishy hug Kosmic^-^

summergrl- thankies for the link!^-^ I'll start reading that asap...don't know if I can handle more tradgey for poor Lupin mind you...:sigh:

Hehe! I just saved you all from being an unlucky thirteen :D
Aren't I good :angel:

Originally posted by aeterna_kai (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=480981#post480981))

-btw I love the piccie of Lupin you have in your sig Gaurdian angel!


Thanks! :D

Mind if I squish in? :grouphug:

Lol at the whole Cod Sqaud thingy! Who's idea was that? HILARIOUS! *gets wet kipper out at the ready* Can I join that too?

Aww I feel all fluffy inside knowing Moony has all these fans it's just so great to see...*wipes tear from eye*

Lol. I wonder what Remus would say about all his fans?

can I join too??:D :D

ooh, thanx for the link, summergrl5 !!! i'll check it out asap =)

Eeeek! the group hug smilie has gone how do we give Moony big squishy hugs now.
I guess this will have to do

I think Harry will get a little closer to Lupin, but I doubt that he will consider him a father/brother figure, like he did Sirius. Lupin's a great, sweet guy, but I just can't see him becoming Harry's mentor. I see Harry turning to the Weasleys for guidance and such.

yey more members!^-^ squish away^.~

...shame the group hug smilie has vanished!..Do you reckon Umbridge is behind it?...stamping down on hugs for werewolfs now too, bad enough she took away their rights *mutters*

^-^maybe it's just with the change in forum structure/design the smilies seem to have changed - nice hug piccie tho Kosmic!

I read through the first story left by summergrl. It was a very good story over all, but hum, just didn't real like Lupin..maybe because I just couldn't see him as being a bible reading - theif o.0;
still the idea of him having a pup is very very cute:)

something it did point out to me though...why didn't harry keep in touch with Lupin like he did with Sirius in book 4?
poor Lupin was all forgotten about :sad:

Harry will need Lupin now and Lupin will need Harry. They have both had a great loss and the only way they will be able to survive is... becoming closer.

I agree that Harry will become closer to Lupin as he is the last remaining reminder of his father. I also think to an extent Lupin will be one of the individuals that gets Harry physically ready to stand against Voldemort.

But we all know Harry'll be with Lupin much more than he was before in the 6th book... :) That's something too, isn't it?

It's not necessary, but I wonder if we'll see another werewolf in the series (other than the one who was in hospital with Mr Weasley - or maybe him again!). If we do, I'd personally rather it be a horrible, bitter, aggressive one. We can't have people like Hermione going around thinking that all werewolves must be nice. The problem with Hermione is that she doesn't give the downtrodden the right to be utter b*stards. Look at Kreacher!

I would love to see Lupin, just once go wild and just let it all out

Yeah, me too. I want to see him go wild and let it all out on Snape. I want 'go wild' to involve the tearing of jugular veins.

Nah, I like Snape to much.

But I would like to see Professor Lupin yell at somebody. It wouldn't change his character, it would merely add to it.

Yeah, me too. I want to see him go wild and let it all out on Snape. I want 'go wild' to involve the tearing of jugular veins.

Nah, I like Snape to much.

But I would like to see Professor Lupin yell at somebody. It wouldn't change his character, it would merely add to it.

Yey! Lupin going wild would be cool. Imagine all the things that have happened to him and it al coming out at once. They should set him on Bellatrix :elaugh:

They should set him on Bellatrix :elaugh:

THAT would be great. i'd love to see that :censored: get what she deserves!

Yeah gaurdian angel- that is a little ray of light^-^ more Lupin!


THAT would be great. i'd love to see that :censored: get what she deserves!


I couldn't agree more, just lock up that evil :censored: with remus on a full moon, and we'd all be the better for it!..except maybe remus, who may feel slightly guilty about eating someone...maybe...


quick rant: ...man are the forums being annoying this evening....

I also think to an extent Lupin will be one of the individuals that gets Harry physically ready to stand against Voldemort.

Most certainly Picko! I image harry will be getting a lot of extra training in the next two books...
I find it hard to swall that a death eater used the jelly leg curse in book 5 mind you...so maybe harry could defeat voldie with little extra work; but something tells me voldemort is going to put forth a more difficult challang e than jelly legs....so Lupin or moody seem to be the perfect people to help harry along; unless dumbledore does it himself this time.

It's not necessary, but I wonder if we'll see another werewolf in the series (other than the one who was in hospital with Mr Weasley - or maybe him again!). If we do, I'd personally rather it be a horrible, bitter, aggressive one. We can't have people like Hermione going around thinking that all werewolves must be nice. The problem with Hermione is that she doesn't give the downtrodden the right to be utter b*stards. Look at Kreacher

Good point Cat - Hermione's constant defense of all magical creatures is the one thing that really grates on me about her...
of course I wouldn't mind another nice and friendly werewolf- female to come along also.... ^-^
If Remus is working to get the support of the werewolf community against voldemort perhaps we will be seeing more of them in the next books!

Aww I feel all fluffy inside knowing Moony has all these fans it's just so great to see...*wipes tear from eye*

Lol. I wonder what Remus would say about all his fans?

hehe good question! I wonder how our fav werewolf would react if he knew so many people adore him!^-^
probably smile charmingly and blush ^-^;
aww bless 'im

I also think to an extent Lupin will be one of the individuals that gets Harry physically ready to stand against Voldemort.

That's a very good point, Picko. I mean, Harry is going to need all the help that he can get for the final battle against Voldemort, and Remus would be a wonderful source of guidance and information. I loved how he taught Harry the Patronous charm in PoA, and his lessons ended up being very successful. I wonder what other tricks Moony has up his sleeve... ;)

Hows that for Remus Lupin :p

http://www.3dlinks.com/images/gallery/ACF9F20.jpg

I agree that Harry will become closer to Lupin as he is the last remaining reminder of his father. I also think to an extent Lupin will be one of the individuals that gets Harry physically ready to stand against Voldemort.
Piko: I agree a lot with what you just said. I just want to point out one thing--Lupin is not only a reminder of his dead father, but of Sirius as well. It makes me wonder whether Harry will cling closer to Lupin because of this or keep him at a distance because he is upset, thinks he might lose him too, doesn't want to think about the deaths. I think despite whatever direction he takes initially, though, he'll end up close to Lupin the the end.

Fredrocksmysocks:
Yeah, i think you make a good point. Another thing is -- rowling said that lupin will play a big role in 6, didn't she? I mean, it's kinda ambiguous whether it's a big role as an emotional support for harry, or more of a role in the Order, but i think it'll be the former -- i mean, lupin's no more valuable to the order than anyone else there... (though it might be nice if we saw him bring more werewolves to the order)

But anyway - i think mainly of Harry needing Lupin... what about Lupin needing harry? Someone mentioned something like that earlier...

Personally, i don't see that it'll be painful for Lupin to be closer to harry now that sirius is gone... lupin's shown signs of wanting a closer relationship with harry in the past (like wanting to grip his shoulder in PoA).

But i think in the end, lupin will make a good sort of parent figure to harry.

Lupin probably feels as one of James' best friends (and esp. in PoA with Black being 'guilty', that it is his duty to watch over him and protect him. But even more than his duty, I think he probably wants to be there for him, and to take care of him and see him grow into a real man, because he is James' son and in a way it would be like, not only having his best friend back, but honoring his memory by watching over Harry. Harry reminds Lupin so much of James--how could Lupin not want to be a part of his life, and esp. now that all of this friends are gone, and Harry is the only thing he has left of them. I absolutly think that on that level, Lupin needs Harry. Poor guy has had all his friends killed, of course he needs someone.

Yeah, i think yu've pretty much hit the nail on the head, Fred.

:sad:

I can't wait to see more of Lupin.... :sad: :sad:

Hi! I'm kind of new in this thread... I was here in the early days, but got so preoccupied with Snape I forgot about one of my dearest characters - Lupin.

Poor Remus. He seems like the type of person who is caring, kind, considerate and all his life he has had nothing but trouble. He's an interesting character, too. Why wasn't he showing obvious effects of Sirius's death? Was it because he felt he had to uphold a brave face for Harry, because it hadn't sunk in yet... or the fact he had already lost Sirius before when he though Sirius was a betrayer and murderer?

Loz,i've been wondering about it too.It's really difficult to explain. But i remember Lupin said to Harry that :"There's nothing you can do...Harry...nothing ...He's gone ..." He didn't say that he died. It's again about the veil.Because we know nothing about it,it's hard to understand the emotions of all the other members,included Lupin after Sirius's death.
Or maybe,Lupin had suffered too many losses in his life, he knew that life would have gone on anyway and it'd be better not to be so miserable about the death.

He had to do it. How do you think Harry would feel to see that Lupin is sad as well? It would make him even more down in dumps, that he already was. Lupin was really brave to do that...

Maybe he knows something that we don't. I mean I think it's a bit odd that he wasn't overly upset over Sirius's death. Maybe he knows of some way in which he can contact Sirius. I don't know, I think there is something more to ol' Remus that we just don't know yet, he's a very deep character!

Veritaserum

Why wasn't he showing obvious effects of Sirius's death? Was it because he felt he had to uphold a brave face for Harry, because it hadn't sunk in yet... or the fact he had already lost Sirius before when he though Sirius was a betrayer and murderer?
Well, it says in the book that he spoke "as though every word was causing him pain". I guess everyone just has a different way of showing their grief. Lupin knew Sirius was gone - i guess he was in shock. But i'm sure he was still upset about it, and i think you're partly right in saying he was trying to put a brave face on.

. I mean I think it's a bit odd that he wasn't overly upset over Sirius's death. Maybe he knows of some way in which he can contact Sirius.
Again, i think there's too little to go by to deduce that Lupin wasn't overly upset. Also, i seriously doubt there's a way for him to contact sirius because (a) we know he's definately dead and (b) Rowling's a Christian, and anything to do with contacting the dead is supposedly evil. Also, DD says in 4 that "no spell can reawaken the dead", which isn't quite the same thing... but still..

I couldn't agree more, just lock up that evil :censored: with remus on a full moon, and we'd all be the better for it!..except maybe remus, who may feel slightly guilty about eating someone...maybe...

After all that :censored: is the reason that Lupin is the only alive Marauder left (wormtail doesn't count). :sad: Poor Lupin...

Lupin seemed as upset as you'd expect him to be. He's not a hormonal and very distressed teenage boy, like Harry. But he was clearly very hurt. Very quietly hurt. The main thing to do at that moment was not cry, but stop Harry from doing the stupid thing, namely follow Sirius.

Remember, he still seemed shaken when they went to meet Harry at the end.

They should set him on Bellatrix :elaugh:

Ha! Yes!

'Nice doggie. Nice doggie! Down boy!!!! Arrrgggggggghhhhhburblewurblerrrggggghhhhhhhh!!!!' .

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This thread is like the Headquarters of Obsessive Werewolf Lovers - H.O.W.L.

Better than S.P.E.W, anyway.

Ha! Yes!

This thread is like the Headquarters of Obsessive Werewolf Lovers - H.O.W.L.

Better than S.P.E.W, anyway.

ah Cat thats a great idea! H.O.W.L I love it!!
We could put that as a link to this thread in our sig so peeps would know where to join the group hug! (if only i knew how to do it of course!)but blagh! Its still a great idea..much much better than spew!

Cat--H.O.W.L., i luv it!!! that's great!


We could put that as a link to this thread in our sig so peeps would know where to join the group hug! (if only i knew how to do it of course!)but blagh! Its still a great idea..much much better than spew!
That is a good idea! We should! But i don't know how to either..eeh

You have a point, Cat. Plus, we were only seeing things from Harry's perspective and he was a bit preoccupied to notice Lupin's sorrow, wasn't he?

Lupin seemed as upset as you'd expect him to be. He's not a hormonal and very distressed teenage boy, like Harry. But he was clearly very hurt. Very quietly hurt. The main thing to do at that moment was not cry, but stop Harry from doing the stupid thing, namely follow Sirius.

Remember, he still seemed shaken when they went to meet Harry at the end.

That's exactly right. As much as he wanted to feel the pain outright for himself, he still took Harry's best interests to heart and put them out front instead. When Sirius died, he took the profile of still being the steady, understanding guy he usually is, so as to provide Harry with what he needed at the moment. STrength, courage, and an understanding/pitying tone. But I have no doubt that Lupin wanted to vent some sort of frustration, anger, or anguish, except that being the prioritized person he is, he helped out a person whom needed it more then himself....Harry.

I think cat's right- Lupin's reaction to Sirius' death...was a very Lupin type reaction...can you really imagine the calm, cool and collected Remus Lupin bawlling his eyes out, beating at his chest and running off after Sirius?
Lupin- as has already been suggested is a very very subtle character - his emotions are quite well hidden and to see them you need to pay close attention - the pale face and pain in his voice may not seem much, but it speaks volumes about his character.
He probably had a break down when he got back home that night. :frown:

-and Loz thats right, I didn't think of that, since we're seeing things form harry's pov..Lupin's reaction would have went slightly unnoticed.

good point fred and seerius! I think Lupin will need Harry...but whether he can break down his walls enough to get close to harryis another matter entirely. I'd love to see it, but I'm still not sure how JK will work it yet.
Lupin does need someone though! *female werewolves!* hehe ^-^

I agree theres more to Remus than meets the eye, but Im pretty sure he doesn't know how to contact the afterlife...
a cheering thought as far as Sirius is concerned however - Dumbledore in book one tells us that death to the ordered mind is simply the next adventure...I think Sirius is just fine; and Lupin knows this too.

*pats Kerbox's wolfie on the head* nice wolf, heh, nice wolfie...

-(gaurdian angel -i've loved the last 2 pics on your sig too! do you draw them yourself or r they from a website?)

This thread is like the Headquarters of Obsessive Werewolf Lovers - H.O.W.L.

Cat, you're a genius! :D

Lol, I'd love to see Remus set loose on Bellatrix. And Umbridge, for that matter. It would serve her right for making it so difficult for werewolves to find a job. Ah, poetic justice!

'Nice doggie. Nice doggie! Down boy!!!! Arrrgggggggghhhhhburblewurblerrrggggghhhhhhhh!!!!' .

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This thread is like the Headquarters of Obsessive Werewolf Lovers - H.O.W.L.


HeHe! :rotfl:


HOWL - I love it, Does any one know how do a link in a siggie?

And Umbridge, for that matter. It would serve her right for making it so difficult for werewolves to find a job. Ah, poetic justice!

That would be great! i would luv for Lupin to give Umbridge a bite and see how she copes with her own anti-werewolf laws!

Umbridge should be sacked. Lupin has to live so terribly JUST because of her... that scum!

Umbridge should be sacked. Lupin has to live so terribly JUST because of her... that scum!

*rants* i wonder what makes Umbridge hate werewolves so much!! She is awful! It's not like Lupin asked to be a werewolf and she makes all these anti-werewolf laws that punish him! i hope one day she has to live by all the unjust laws she set up. :grumble: i could go on and on about that :censored:!!

aeterna kai - Nope, I don't do them myself, cause I don't have a scanner... I search the web and find what I need. :)

And, since I've got a thousand PMs today asking who the people in my sig are, I'll just say it here. The back one is Sirius and the blonde one is Remus. :D

Re: Kerbox's Robo-Remus
BWAhaha! :rotfl: That's hilarious! I found some pretty amazing Lupin art myself on this page (http://www.gryffindortower.net/Gallery/LisaRourke/lisarourke.htm). It has a bunch of drawings of the Harry Potter characters as adults, including some of Moony. I think they're great, except for the fact that they are all extremely handsome, and I imagined the characters looking more, well, "normal." ;) Tell me what you think!

I just want to point out one thing--Lupin is not only a reminder of his dead father, but of Sirius as well. It makes me wonder whether Harry will cling closer to Lupin because of this or keep him at a distance because he is upset, thinks he might lose him too, doesn't want to think about the deaths.
:sigh: It would be completely within Harry's character to do that too. He often pushes people away with his anger when he is in pain. I would hate to see him do that with Lupin.

Lupin probably feels as one of James' best friends (and esp. in PoA with Black being 'guilty', that it is his duty to watch over him and protect him. But even more than his duty, I think he probably wants to be there for him, and to take care of him and see him grow into a real man, because he is James' son and in a way it would be like, not only having his best friend back, but honoring his memory by watching over Harry.
YES! I totally agree. I don't think he will replace Sirius, but I think he will take on a larger role in Harry's life for those reasons.

Re: Lupin's reaction to Sirius
Maybe it's just me, but I don't see Lupin as the kind of guy to start bawling openly... I agree with seerius, everyone deals with grief in their own way. Harry does it by smashing up Dumbledore's office, then bottling it up and refusing to speak of it. I can see Lupin shedding some tears on his own, but he was really most open with his feelings with Sirius and now that he's gone... well, who is he going to go to? He may not have cried in front of Sirius either. But I think he was also being strong for Harry. I also agree that we need to know more about the veil in order to understand his and the others' reactions to Sirius's death.

*nods* I thought that was who they were gaurdian Angel! Its such a cute lil picture! Bless^-^

Thankies for the link too Mel! Those portraits were amazing! Very very talented artist! I adore the winter lupin one, its not exactly as I'd imagined him, but it came very close!

I couldn't agree more! Maybe not Lupin though because he'd feel bad..but any other werewolf without morals would do..just give that darn woman a bite and see her suffer her own consequences.... :elaugh:

and -Ah just thought I'd let you know how to get a link in your siggy^-^ I managed it..and that will tell you its incredibly simple^-^;;

All you need to do is copy the address for the forum, then go to 'user cp' at the top.
Clcik on the signature link once in there and then choose the 'link' icon(the world with the paper clip) and type away!

Its just like inserting a link into a post..must be a new feature of the v3 boards.

ah well- toodles^-^v

i agree i love lupin! he definatrly has a bigger part to play before the end.

with this theory that everyone seems to have about wormtail killing lupin with his silver hand, lets not forget that wormtail owes harry alot for saving his life so perhaps harry could save lupin??

maybe im just being hopefull.......

I hope that with Sirius gone, Harry is able to get closer to his father's last remianing friend. I would love to see Lupin more in the next book. I don't want him to try to replace Sirius, but it would be great for Harry to have someone who knew his parents well around more.

and -Ah just thought I'd let you know how to get a link in your siggy^-^ I managed it..and that will tell you its incredibly simple^-^;;

All you need to do is copy the address for the forum, then go to 'user cp' at the top.
Clcik on the signature link once in there and then choose the 'link' icon(the world with the paper clip) and type away!

Its just like inserting a link into a post..must be a new feature of the v3 boards.

ah well- toodles^-^v


Ooh i will put a link like yours in my siggy then! Lupin luvers unite! Thanx for figuring it out! :tu:

Oh good, thanks aeterna kai! I'll put it in my sig right away!

I sure hope you're right, LunaRocks. By the way, :welcome: to the boards!

ah no problem^-^ I have waay too much time on my hands right now^.~

I'd like to hope Lunarocks- that if it came down to a battle between Lupin and Wormtail, that Lupin could kick his sorry :censored: into the next full moon...but just incase that sneaky evil rat worms his way out of it...there is always the hope that harry can save our dear wolfie from imminent danger by using his little trump card with old wormtail!

^-^ :welcome:

i would be sooo devastated if Wormtail killed Lupin with that silver hand of his. This is probably a stupid question, but where did people get that theory from anyways? ...just wondering. if there if ever a fight between Wormtail and Lupin i hope Lupin will kick Wormtail's sorry :censored:!

Do you think there's a possibility that before Remus kills Wormtail he'll say something like...
"Everybody loves me, nobody hates me I think I'll got and eat Worm-tail?"
...just a thought

Do you think there's a possibility that before Remus kills Wormtail he'll say something like...
"Everybody loves me, nobody hates me I think I'll got and eat Worm-tail?"
...just a thought

i doubt he'd say just that, but that is a funny idea, LOL!!:rotfl:

Harry should become closer with Lupin - he's Harry's only link to his parents. Whenever I think that, however, I also start to think that Dumbledore would be a link too. But while Dumbledore could probably tell Harry some pretty interesting stories about his father, it wouldn't be the same as Lupin discussing James with Harry. With everyone gone but Lupin and Peter, I'm hoping Harry turns to Lupin now.

Lupin- as has already been suggested is a very very subtle character - his emotions are quite well hidden and to see them you need to pay close attention - the pale face and pain in his voice may not seem much, but it speaks volumes about his character.
He probably had a break down when he got back home that night.

That is an excellent point. Remus is not one to become overwhelmed by emotion, even in the most intense situations, but the fact that he is so careful about showing his feelings really demonstrates what a calm and reserved person he really is. Still, it must have taken a lot of strength for him to hide the pain of watching Sirius die in order to protect Harry. Just imagining what utter anguish he must have been going through at that moment really breaks my heart.

Hey guys! May I join HOWL? I really like the idea! lol. Yeah I want Lupin to have a final fight between himself and Bellatrix. THE ONE WHO KILLED (are spoilers allowed?) SIRIUS! I really want his death avenged by no one but Lupin. I think Peter will see the error in his ways.

You know I had this funny vision. Say Sirius wasn;t dead but the Aurors got him and they're like about 20 of them holding on to Sirius and Fudge in the middle and then all of a sudden Voldie comes out with Peter and says Sirius was never on his side and Sirius wenches free and points at all of them sayinh 'SEE! I TOLD YOU AND YOU AND YOU ...' and keeps going. Just a vision I saw ... silly me.

Yeah, he probably did hold himself in until he could grieve in private. Plus, Harry was still in danger and that took precedence for him over a situation he couldn't change.

I like this thread! I've loved Lupin since the first time I read PoA. He was a favorite even before they got off the train. I missed not seeing him in GoF, but was glad he was back in OotP.

After the first time I read OotP I got to thinking about Lupin and other werewolves. I had an idea of how their "condition" could be better dealt with.
Since they know that they only transform during the fool moon, and we always know when the moon will be full, it's completely predictable. Therefore, why doesn't the MoM provide someplace that werewolves can go during the full moon phase to protect them and others. They could have a place where each werewolf would be in a seperate room, were there's nothing they could hurt their selves on or with. The room could have magic reinforcements to keep them from being able to get out until after the moon is no longer full. They should have people keeping watch on them while they are there, provide food and water during the day. The werewolves would have to show up at the facility before dusk on the first day of the full moon. They would also probably have to be registered like an animagus. I know it sounds a bit like prison, I'm actually thinking more of a hospital type environment. Maybe overseen by St Mungo's. At least with a set up like this, a werewolf would be able to lead a fairly normal life and other people wouldn't have to be afraid of them.

Love the idea for H.O.W.L., very clever!

Remus Lupin is such a cool character~
He knows a lot, but he stays quiet~

"he that knows and knows that he knows-cleave to him"~~~~

I hope that Harry does spend more time with Lupin because some people are suggesting Harry's in danger of becoming bitter and twisted like Snape. Lupin could be a good influence in preventing that, since he's got plenty of reasons to be bitter and isn't.

LOL Puffskein :D That was me who suggested that, wasn't it?

I do think that Lupin must start to really take care of Harry. He could never fill the void Sirius has left, but I think he'll be a brilliant role model to our Hero, and he'll also find a catharsis of his own emotions in helping Harry through his. Of course, they're both male, so they may not say anything to each other and just repress their emotions. I want Lupin to be the DADA teacher again... he was the only good one!

I want Lupin to be the DADA teacher again... he was the only good one!
Yeah... i wish... but lupin's way too busy with the order, there are more important things than teaching now... :(

Apart from the scene in the fireplace - harry never talks to lupin about james, tho... lupin seems to have held back there, it'll be interesting to see the barriers between them broken down in 6 - i don't think there's any doubt that harry and lupin will come close eventually, tho it's hard to say how long that'll take.

I want to know what Lupin did for the order that was so secret. Maybe he talked to other werewolfs talking them into biting Voldemort?

sophieke - what does that sentence mean in your sig? I figured it was French, but... :)

I love H.O.W.L.!! We rock!

I have always loved Lupin. Ever since we met him in PoA, I knew he was one of my favorite characters. He is just really kind and understanding, and gentle too. Like everyone said, he isn't perfect, but I definitely think he is great. I also hope he takes Harry under his wing.

Oooo I want to join the hugs for Lupin and H.O.W.L. group!!! But how do I? Help! :frown:

I know that Lupin will never be able to replace Sirius in Harry's heart, which is completely understandable, but I am so looking forward to see how Lupin and Harry became closer than they were before. It will certainly be a great thing to read about. :)

Now something complteley different - do you think that Lupin maybe has some friends , werevolves, who he can talk to about his transfiguration? I don't know how I thought of it, the question simply banged me... I thought that maybe there is a Society where they discuss it and try to find some other ways of transfiguration.. less painful, or something.

Comments?

There probably is. I mean he went over and talked to the werewolf in OOTP, maybe, at least he'll make friends with him?

When did he talk to a werewolf? I don't remember it... I thought we only saw a werewolf in hospital in Mr. Wasley's room... *confused*

Just write in your sig (like I and the rest of us did) !! Wheeeee :)

Werewolf eyes:
You know I had this funny vision. Say Sirius wasn;t dead but the Aurors got him and they're like about 20 of them holding on to Sirius and Fudge in the middle and then all of a sudden Voldie comes out with Peter and says Sirius was never on his side and Sirius wenches free and points at all of them sayinh 'SEE! I TOLD YOU AND YOU AND YOU ...' and keeps going. Just a vision I saw ... silly me.

ah that would have been so amusing!!!^-^ I can imagine Lupin standing in the background just shaking his head, with a huge grin on his face. hehe ah, darn that Bellatrix!

Raven Lady - I love the idea of a special place for werewolves on the full moon...maybe somehting like that will happen- maybe Lupin will open a refuge for them after the war?
I think wizardsat the moment are too prejudice against werewolves to bother helping them out like that though.

And yup - If anyone wants to join in H.O.W.L (headquarters of obsessive werewolf lovers), and the big squishy group hugs for lupin or even the cod squad just write it in your sig (by going to user cp)
^-^ :welcome:

When did he talk to a werewolf? I don't remember it... I thought we only saw a werewolf in hospital in Mr. Wasley's room...

That was the werewolf he talked to....Mrs weasley was about to blow a gasket and lupin wandered over to the werewolf to have a chat^-^
bless lil Lupinkins!

I'd like to think that maybe there is a werewolf society somewhere, they could use the help*gets a funny image of remus standing on a podieum saying: 'my name is Remus Lupin, I am 40 years old and I am a werewolf.' * :lol:

I do think that Lupin must start to really take care of Harry. He could never fill the void Sirius has left, but I think he'll be a brilliant role model to our Hero, and he'll also find a catharsis of his own emotions in helping Harry through his.

I do hope so Loz...Gak I do not want harry turning into Snape :scared:

it'll be interesting to see the barriers between them broken down in 6

It certainly would be seerius! I wonder which of them will have inherited 12 grimmauld place...or even if we'll be seeing the headquarters again. I wonder if either Lupin or Harry could bare to live there now sirius is gone...

[quote]There probably is. I mean he went over and talked to the werewolf in OOTP, maybe, at least he'll make friends with him?[quote]

I can see that happening, it would be consistant with Lupin's character and would add a different and welcome addition to the story.

It's not necessary, but I wonder if we'll see another werewolf in the series (other than the one who was in hospital with Mr Weasley - or maybe him again!). If we do, I'd personally rather it be a horrible, bitter, aggressive one. We can't have people like Hermione going around thinking that all werewolves must be nice. The problem with Hermione is that she doesn't give the downtrodden the right to be utter b*stards. Look at Kreacher!

I have a little pet theory that most werewolves are bitter and aggressive because society treats them as subhuman and untrustworthy. In the end they can't even convince themselves of their own humanity. We might meet a werewolf who's just like Kreacher - a nasty piece of work made treacherous by wizards. The lesson everyone has to learn from Kreacher is that (while the downtrodden do have the right to be bad) however unpleasant a person or creature may be, you have to treat them well if you want to keep them on your side.

[FONT=franklin gothic mediumI love the thought of Lupin being the closet thing Harry's got to a father. :agree: and i do agree that Harry see's Mrs.Wealsey as the closet thing to a mother. But there is also Dumbledore to consider!

Which leads me to think it would really terrorize Harry if anything happened to Lupin. I personally feel that aside from Harry Lupin is one of my favourite characters as it like that whole racism thing. But apart from that whole werewolf thing (which is wicked by the way) :eyebrows:. But I think JK has somehintg really big in store for Lupin![/FONT]

I have a little pet theory that most werewolves are bitter and aggressive because society treats them as subhuman and untrustworthy. In the end they can't even convince themselves of their own humanity. We might meet a werewolf who's just like Kreacher - a nasty piece of work made treacherous by wizards. The lesson everyone has to learn from Kreacher is that (while the downtrodden do have the right to be bad) however unpleasant a person or creature may be, you have to treat them well if you want to keep them on your side.

I can so imagine that, especially the "In the end they can't even convince themselves of their own humanity" part. It's a bit like on Buffy when Oz is telling Willow what it feels like when he transforms, how he touches something so deep and powerful, something completely beyond him, and it scares him. I know that there are probably differences between Joss' werewolves and Jo's werewolves, but I can imagine Remus feeling the same way; what it's like to completely lose control of your senses and develop a completely new mindset, the mindset of what is basically a monster (Don't get me wrong, I love the guy. I know Lupin's not the monster, it's the werewolf that's the dangerous part).

Also, imagine what it's like to hear people talking about werewolves with such fear and hatred, no matter how good a person you are you can't control yourself once you're gone, and I imagine that if a a werewolf didn't have as much friendly support as what Lupin has, he could become incredibly bitter and angry, if only to cover up some secret shame he might feel. (Again, I don't think on the most part that they need to feel shame, but I can imagine that they do).

Ah, i'd give Puffskein and Drella:clappy: if I could^-^;

heh - those were very good points. Remus could so easily have turned into a worse version of snape himself when you think about it...thankfully he managed to control his bitter, angry side - it would be interesting if something in him just fliped and he did blow a gasket about all of the hardship, but I doubt he would, unless someone else was controlling his mind...hum.

"In the end they can't even convince themselves of their own humanity"

is such a tragic idea..that anyone would be reduced to such is awful...Im glad that Remus has..or had people around him who cared enough about him to make sure that never happened.

I also like somehting cat mentioned in another thread...about the tragedy of Remus Lupin is that he is alive.
very true, and a very sad thought.

is it just me or is this post a bit jumbled :shrug:

Pardon me if someone posted this already ---


If Remus survives till the end, will he get married or something like that? I mean, Tonks would be my guess, though she is much younger than him.. What do you guys think?

Pardon me if someone posted this already ---


If Remus survives till the end, will he get married or something like that? I mean, Tonks would be my guess, though she is much younger than him.. What do you guys think?

If he survives to the end, I'd love to see Remus get married^-^ But I highly, highly doubt that it would be tonks! :no:

But maybe a nice werewolf female... :eyebrows: aww can you imagine the children! :D

Hehe, Lupin and Tonks. Seems lovely to me! :)

I am not sure if he'll get married, dough, we haven't seen any of wedding so far in the books. We kno that people are married, but we didn't see them marrying... Seems like it's not JKR's style.

As for me, I'd love to see a romance between some of the older characters. We haven't seen it yet, if we don't count Hagrid and Olympe.

On a sort of related note, if a werewolf and a none-werewolf had a baby, would it definately be a werewolf, or would it sort of work out like human genetics, as in there's a 50-50 chance either way? Or maybe a werewolf wouldn't be able to reproduce? Just interested.

i'm gonna throw a tantrum if lupin either dies or ends up alone... i mean, the guy has been through enough, hasn't he?

maybe they'll make a cure for werewolf bites... *crosses fingers*


EDIT: I think it works like genes. You can get it, and then maybe you can't.

On a sort of related note, if a werewolf and a none-werewolf had a baby, would it definately be a werewolf, or would it sort of work out like human genetics, as in there's a 50-50 chance either way? Or maybe a werewolf wouldn't be able to reproduce? Just interested.

Hum I'm not sure - it is contagous so i guess there would be a 50 % chance of the child being a werewolf also. :shrug:
something tells me lupin wouldn't risk it...I wouldlove to see him happy in the end though- whatever happiness is for him.

Yeah, aeterna - I think that Lupin wouldn't take risks as well... He's always so cautious!

Remus, a father?? Cuteness all around!! ^.^

Well, if he doesn't wanna risk it, then I guess the only other option is to adopt.

I would love for Harry to think of him as a father now that Sirius is gone

Remus would be able to adopt him only when Voldemort is defeated. What the purpose of adopting him when Harry needs to stay at Dursley's...

that's why i'm crossing my fingers for lupin to survive the series. i mean, sirius' death was enough, but if remus dies also, wah!

I would love for Harry to think of him as a father now that Sirius is gone

God me too, but I'm not so sure he will. First his parents were killed, then Sirius, and he saw how vulnerable the Weaslys are to attack after Arthur got hurt, I've got a feeling that Harry is going to be more careful about looking up to people too much and relying on them from now on. Which is a shame for Remus because I think he'd make such a fantastic father figure, maybe he still will be, just for someone else.

i'm re-reading POA just so i can look closely at how remus acts. he sure is a sweetheart, i mean he always has great advice and he wanted to help harry in any way he could. GREAT father figure. sirius was great too but i kinda saw him more of a brother than a father, hermione's "reckless" can identify sirius, but he sometimes had great advice as well, still more like a brother to harry than a father

aww I'd love to see remus as a daddy - he'd make such a great father :agree: aww *has a cute mental image of remus being a proud dad* how I'dlove to see that!

If harry lives...and marries and has a child himself- I would love remus to be the godfather:) though it would probably be ron......

ah I don't care I just wanna see Remus with a baby! :D

yea, i mean, AWWW!!!!


I really hope Remus will play a bigger role in the next books. come on, JK, he's your fav character apart from the trio. (same for me)

Yay! More members!! =) We luv Lupin!

Remus will play bigger role in book 7, JKR told us... but what about the book 6? He has to have big role there, as well!!

really? oh thank god, i hope it's not sacrificing himself in any way..

Remus will play bigger role in book 7, JKR told us... but what about the book 6? He has to have big role there, as well!!

You neverknow..Remus may completely disappear in book 6 like he did in book 4!..God I hope not! I'd be very annoyed with JK if she did that!...anywho, was it in an interview or something where JK said this? If so do u know where i can find it?

Sometimes I think Harry forgets that Lupin was also his fathers friend. I just find that odd. If you found 2 men who knew both your parents very well wouldn't you want to find out as much as possible from them. When harry goes to speak with Sirius about what he sees in the pensive, he tells Lupin he wants to talk to Sirius. Doesn't harry remember that Lupin was there 2. I feel really bad for Lupin, it seems he is forgotten.

Sometimes I think Harry forgets that Lupin was also his fathers friend. I just find that odd. If you found 2 men who knew both your parents very well wouldn't you want to find out as much as possible from them. When harry goes to speak with Sirius about what he sees in the pensive, he tells Lupin he wants to talk to Sirius. Doesn't harry remember that Lupin was there 2. I feel really bad for Lupin, it seems he is forgotten.

I couldn't agree more! Harry forgot all about lupin in book four too..and Lupin has done more for him than Sirius too. Its not fair on the poor guy, he gets no praise or appreciation for what he does in the books :frown:
again the fact he doesnt complain about it - makes him even more special.

Sometimes I think Harry forgets that Lupin was also his fathers friend. I just find that odd. If you found 2 men who knew both your parents very well wouldn't you want to find out as much as possible from them. When harry goes to speak with Sirius about what he sees in the pensive, he tells Lupin he wants to talk to Sirius. Doesn't harry remember that Lupin was there 2. I feel really bad for Lupin, it seems he is forgotten.

Harry forgets a lot of things.

Sometimes I just don't understand him. If I were him I'd be raiding every pensive in the country and asking every person I loved about my parents! However, I believe, because Harry isn't coming to him, Lupin will come to Harry. Lupin, of all people, knows a lot of what Harry is going through, mainly because he himself is going through it as well. Lupin is to me, the right kind of person to give Harry the solace and tranquility that he so dearly needs to understand. And maybe, at the same time, Harry can do the same for lupin.

Yeah I don't get why Harry didn't try and see mor eof his parents in a pensive...or for that matter why someone like dumbledore didn't let him. Unless of course it was because 'it doesnt do to dwell on dreams' - like with the mirror of erised...shame ebcause I really wanna see more of the old marauders in action! Or maybe some of the htings they got up to at james and lilly's wedding- i cant for a second imagine that they'd have behaved at that!

ecthelion- i liked what you said about Lupin

Lupin will come to Harry. Lupin, of all people, knows a lot of what Harry is going through, mainly because he himself is going through it as well. Lupin is to me, the right kind of person to give Harry the solace and tranquility that he so dearly needs to understand

lupin and the word solace seem to fit together so nicely.

i'm sure JK will make Harry see or hear more bout the marauders, it just doesn't seem fair for him to not know much bout his parents...

as for harry forgetting about remus, i would have screamed at harry for doing that. remus was a very big help for him in many cases... go on harry, lupin is a great person, and he is the last person left who can tell him bout james and lily. i'm not counting pettigrew, in my book, he is an official ex-Marauder and the little git will get what he deserves later, i hope

I so agree about Harry forgetting about a lot of things. Lupin is one of them.

Why didn't Harry contact Lupin whenever he could? He said himself that Lupin was the best teacher he had ever had, but why didn't he see him as his father's friend?

that is yet to develop!!!

I hope that Harry does spend more time with Lupin because some people are suggesting Harry's in danger of becoming bitter and twisted like Snape. Lupin could be a good influence in preventing that, since he's got plenty of reasons to be bitter and isn't.
I think he'll be a brilliant role model to our Hero, and he'll also find a catharsis of his own emotions in helping Harry through his.
I wholeheartedly agree with both of these points. Well said!

I have a little pet theory that most werewolves are bitter and aggressive because society treats them as subhuman and untrustworthy. In the end they can't even convince themselves of their own humanity.
Yes, I have no doubt of this. But I think there are probably many like Lupin too. When werewolves transform, they become vicious, aggressive, lethal monsters that have no control over themselves. They are a turmoil of extreme emotion. So when they transform back into human, they may feel that they have to balance themselves (or perhaps rebel against that part of themselves) by being calm, stable, and in control. By doing that, they can feel more human. The werewolf may be a part of them, but they define themselves by their human form as much as possible in order to cope with the pain and shame. I see it as two opposite poles residing in the same body: their human form is the opposite of their werewolf form.

Also, I think MWPP were essential in keeping him in touch with his humanity. Lupin might have turned out very differently if they had not been there for him. Becoming animagi was such a show of solidarity and acceptance... :sad:

Anyway, I have a question. Why are werewolves considered "half-breeds"? Before they are bitten, they are fully human. I would think a bite wouldn't change the genetic makeup of the person, would it? I always thought of it as more of a virus/disease, but not in the genes...

Just had another thought - do you think Lupin will become more withdrawn because of Sirius's death? I mean there was always a kind of sadness about him, I wonder if it will be amplified now. Many people are suggesting that Harry will be more careful in who he chooses to care about, so he won't get hurt if he loses them. Do you think Lupin could do the same? Maybe that's why JKR says he will have a bigger role in book 7 rather than book 6, because it will take him a while to come around and get closer to Harry, and the same for Harry to Lupin. Or he could disappear again. :sigh:

Sometimes I think Harry forgets that Lupin was also his fathers friend. I just find that odd.
I've wondered about that too. Actually, I've always wondered why Harry took more to Sirius than Lupin. After all, he spent a year being taught by Lupin and believing that Sirius was a homicidal maniac out to get him. Quick change of heart... :grumble:

Just had another thought - do you think Lupin will become more withdrawn because of Sirius's death? I mean there was always a kind of sadness about him, I wonder if it will be amplified now. Many people are suggesting that Harry will be more careful in who he chooses to care about, so he won't get hurt if he loses them. Do you think Lupin could do the same? Maybe that's why JKR says he will have a bigger role in book 7 rather than book 6, because it will take him a while to come around and get closer to Harry, and the same for Harry to Lupin. Or he could disappear again. :sigh:

I've wondered about that too. Actually, I've always wondered why Harry took more to Sirius than Lupin. After all, he spent a year being taught by Lupin and believing that Sirius was a homicidal maniac out to get him. Quick change of heart... :grumble:

:grumble: indeed. I've wondered the same thing-I just don't understand why Harry suddenly switched to Sirius and ignored Remus -it makes no sense! Remus deserves better!

Interetsing point about Lupin perhaps becoming more withdrawn because of Sirius' death - it could very well happen. But I'm not sure that the rest of the order would allow him to sink too far and he did come to see harry off at the end-so unless it happens slowly during the next book lupin should be okay. I think Dumbledore looks out for Lupin like he looks out for harry - obviously dumbledore is more concerned about harry right now, but if he went to all that effort for Remus way abck - i think the wolf has a special place in dumbledore's heart...and im sure Molly will make sure he's okay too! After the marauders I think the order is the next best thing to happen to Lupin.

codsmack?! lol *falls to the floor*

Is it my imagination or is something askew on this page?

A couple of thoughts about Lupin and fan artists/writers -
Why do so many people conveniently forget that Professor Lupin is going grey?
Why do so many people give him mad eye colours? What's wrong with blue or brown or green?

Is it my imagination or is something askew on this page?

A couple of thoughts about Lupin and fan artists/writers -
Why do so many people conveniently forget that Professor Lupin is going grey?
Why do so many people give him mad eye colours? What's wrong with blue or brown or green?

its not your imagination Cat...something is very much askew with this page..and a few other pages in the forums too :shrug:

I don't get the forgetting the grey bit-JK reminds us of that plenty doesn't she?^-^ as for the eye colours...I am rather partial to Lupin having a hazel/amber colour myself- it just seems rather cute :)
I wouldn't go madder than that tho...violent pink or something would be rather freakish.

I think it's because his eye colour isn't specified. The fans think 'Yeah, let's go nuts!' and give him maroon eyes with purple polka-dots or whatever.

Hazel isn't that weird!

I think it's because his eye colour isn't specified. The fans think 'Yeah, let's go nuts!' and give him maroon eyes with purple polka-dots or whatever.

Hazel isn't that weird!


Lol I didn't say hazel was - hazel is a very nice, normal yet pretty colour for eyes! quite perfect for Lupin really, who isn't normal ordinary brown, but a little bit specail^-^...violent pink...or maroon with polka dots is what i'd call weird :lol: and i agree when fans get free reign on things...the situation can become rather insane can't it^.^;

ooo! I always thought of Moony having hazel/amber colour eyes

The reason why I think that Harry became closer to Sirius rather than Remus is firstly because Lupin was his teacher and so as much as he admired and respected him he could never feel as relaxed around him as he could with Sirius. Notice in GOF and OOP he still calls him proffessor "Lupin" He is not on first name terms, as with Sirius.

I dont think harry forgot about him atall i just think that he didnt feel that he could contct him and ask him for advice etc out of the blue because he still considered the relationship between them to be primarily teacher-pupil.

Also I think that Harry felt that he could relate to Sirius more than anyone else. Lily and James's deaths completely ruined Harry and Sirius's lives and i think that from the moment that Harry realised Sirius was innocent in the shrieking shack, there was a kind of understanding between him and Sirius that resulted in an exceptionaly deep bond. They also both have very similar temprements wheras Lupin is alot more cautious, more like Hermione.

I think that Harry will become closer to Lupin, especially as he will be remembering him as a "teacher" less and less and more as a friend. I dont think Lupin can ever replace Sirius though and i dont want him to, Sirius was just one in a million to Harry.

I think that Harry will become closer to Lupin, especially as he will be remembering him as a "teacher" less and less and more as a friend. I dont think Lupin can ever replace Sirius though and i dont want him to, Sirius was just one in a million to Harry.

Exactly! That's what I am saying as well... :) Sirius cannot be replaced, but Lupin can be closer to Harry... and most likely will be.

I would like to join
"The Big Squishy Group Hugs For Lupin Society"

Lupin is one of my favorites together with Sirius. He seems so caring and now with Sirius gone I hope that he will get closer and play a bigger part in Harry's life.
I feel so sorry for Lupin, all his best friends are now dead. I therefore hope that he and Harry will bond together over these events.

Welcome Girl! just add it to your siggie

The reason why I think that Harry became
I think that Harry will become closer to Lupin, especially as he will be remembering him as a "teacher" less and less and more as a friend. I dont think Lupin can ever replace Sirius though and i dont want him to, Sirius was just one in a million to Harry.

Great post Andromeda- that all makes perfect sense! i agree with the sentiments put forward entirely :tu: (oo didn't that sound posh :p )

This is completely sadistic. How do all expect me to keep up with this thread and the Snivellus Snape thread? ;)

Although it would be nice, I just can't see Lupin being with anyone. Sometime I just think that he's doomed to walk the planet alone, I just see it as part of his character. I don't think that he would want someone to be with him, because he'd probably be afraid of accidently attacking them on a full moon or something (look how he resigned in Prisoner of Azkaban, and he didn't even hurt anything!). Especially if being a werewolf is somehow genetic, he'd never want to bring something to this world that'd have his same curse.... Although, I like the idea of Lupin and kids very much, he'd make a really great father, and he'd probably just spoil the little kid rotten. :p

Also, I like the idea of most werewolves just being completely bitter and resenting the world. Perhaps we'll meet a werewolf who is as bitter and angry as Snape?

I don't think that Harry has asked so many questions about his parents because of the "Don't ask questions!" notion that has been drummed into his mind, but I guess that he's slowly growing out of it. Lupin and Sirius didn't seem to mind reminiscing about James, maybe Harry will take notice of that and start asking some questions about his parents.

aeterna_kai, I'd say that none us of have a doubt that what went on at Lily and James's wedding was simply what goes on at any standard wedding: Sirius got p--- drunk and started hitting on anything with legs. Poor Remus got stuck chasing after him the rest of afternoon in case he did any dodgy magic. ;)

This is completely sadistic. How do all expect me to keep up with this thread and the Snivellus Snape thread? ;)

aeterna_kai, I'd say that none of have a doubt that what went on at Lily and James's wedding was simply what goes on at any standard wedding: Sirius got p--- drunk and started hitting on anything with legs. Poor Remus got stuck chasing after him the rest of afternoon in case he did any dodgy magic. ;)

pah you should have more dedication to poor old Remus lestrange :p shame on you!

he would make a great father- def spoil the kid rotton!..

:rotfl: at the wedding - hehe I can quite imagine that sinario! It was probably peter who got him drunk in the first place...wonder if anything happened with the chiefbridesmaid....do u reckon there were many muggles there considering lily was muggle born?...wait im off topic arent i? ^-^;

it'd be funny to see remus drunk tho wouldnt it?

I like the idea of most werewolves just being completely bitter and resenting the world. Perhaps we'll meet a werewolf who is as bitter and angry and Snape?

snape? *blinks*

Ah-ha! In the beginning there was an argument and now we're hugging and howling... Ironic isn't it? Oh hey... can I join both HOWL and Big Squishy hugs for Luypin Society? huh? Huh?

Yes, of course. (Like I found them...:)) No, really, just put them in your sig... :D

snape? *blinks*

Lol, that was a typo, I meant bitter and angry as Snape. :blush:

I do need to have a little more dedication to Remus, though. I've only just found out about "The Remus Lupin Appreciation Thread"! *hangs head in shame*. Anyway, I was just about to post in there.

It'd be funny to see Remus drunk, though. :lol:

Yes, of course. (Like I found them...:)) No, really, just put them in your sig... :D

I was the second member of 'Big Squishy Hug For Lupin Society'. Yeah, the group is universal, she can join. :D

I have to confess: I've only just found out about this thread from aeterna_kai's signature, but I assure you that I lurve Lupin as much as the next Squishy Group Hugs member. :agree:

From attacking people with fish, to big squishy group hugs, to howling. *sigh* Remus luvin' has gone a long way... Does anyone have any insane ideas on what they would do if Remus died/turned traitor? I came up with one yesterday:

Seriously now, if you point to me some reasonable evidence that Lupin is indeed a traitor and he in fact, does become one, I'll enclose myself in a box and ship myself to where J.K. lives, and when she opens the package, I'll leap out attack her with the corpse of Napoleon Bonaparte. Really.

Seriously now, if you point to me some reasonable evidence that Lupin is indeed a traitor and he in fact, does become one, I'll enclose myself in a box and ship myself to where J.K. lives, and when she opens the package, I'll leap out attack her with the corpse of Napoleon Bonaparte. Really.

Hehe! that is so funny. Maybe we could all get in a really big box and really scare her :D
No way could Moony turn traitor, he's just to nice. He wouldn't even know how

Eik I agree with Lestrange, it's hard to keep up with both Snape and this thread!

I see Lupin playing more of an active role, Harry's all Lupin has left now of the marauders. I don't think he'll compare Harry to James like Sirius did though.

I think that Harry quickly attached himself to Sirius and not to Lupin because he knew of Sirius's friendship with his dad before he knew that Lupin was his dad's friend also. He had more time for that to gel in his brain before he found out that he was also his godfather. Also, his first relationship with Lupin was as teacher/student.

Mostly though, I think Harry bonded quickly with Sirius because theirs is an 'official' relationship. Harry doesn't really belong to the Dursley family. Much as he likes the Weasley's, he's not one. Dumbledore and McGonagall are great and all, but there is a distant built in there with their positions.

Sirius was chosen by Harry's parents to be his godfather. A godfather is an 'official' relationship. A godfather isn't just a friend or mentor, although he is also both those things. Sirius being Harry's godfather meant he belonged to Harry.

I'm probably not making sense. I'm a little bleery after reading the eight pages of this thread!

Another point, although it hasn't been mentioned recently in this thread. Remus and James couldn't have switched bodies. Would James have let his best friend rot in Azkaban, or would he go to Dumbledore and others and let them know about the switch in secret keepers? Duh, he would have told and tried to clear Sirius. At the VERY least, when he was teaching at Hogwarts during PoA, he would have told Dumbledore that Harry was not in any danger from Black. Course, there's also the clear difference in their personalities as others have mentioned that negates the switching theory.

From attacking people with fish, to big squishy group hugs, to howling. *sigh* Remus luvin' has gone a long way... Does anyone have any insane ideas on what they would do if Remus died/turned traitor? I came up with one yesterday:
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I've already said what I'll do if he dies. I will personally attack Ms Rowling with a large fish.

I think I started a movement with that thought.

If he turned traitor I'd be surprised, but I wouldn't mind. I'd still like the character. Hey, I like Peter Pettigrew! (Only as a character, though. I'd get another fish for him if he was a real man.)

From attacking people with fish, to big squishy group hugs, to howling. *sigh* Remus luvin' has gone a long way

:agree: very very true lestrange ah the wonders of Lupin :blush:
hehe , hes a special kind of guy isnt he? hehe

and yey- 2 more members *bounces off to add more numbers*

*bounces back to finish her post first*

I don't know what I'd do if JK did something nasty to Lupin...I mean yes being a member of the Cod Squad ( a movement started by Cat ^-^) it would very well involve fish... :whistle:

but hum...maybe i'd just mail loads of fish to jk's house...stuff them in places she'd never find them ya know, like in the curtain lining... :lol:
she'd have a bad smell for life - its a start at revenge...of course then i'd feel bad-she did invent lupin for us in the first place didnt she? :sigh:

i love Lupin. I'll appreciate Remus. Werewolf's rock!!!

:no:
I do need to have a little more dedication to Remus, though. I've only just found out about "The Remus Lupin Appreciation Thread"! *hangs head in shame*. Anyway, I was just about to post in there.

tsk you should be ashamed of urself! :lol: well i forgive you since u did post over at the lupin appreciation thread...are u sure u've never been there b4?...my head is spinning with all of these lupin threads...i swear they are the only reason i ever made it to second year!

Sirius was chosen by Harry's parents to be his godfather. A godfather is an 'official' relationship. A godfather isn't just a friend or mentor, although he is also both those things. Sirius being Harry's godfather meant he belonged to Harry.

ah, first I must applaude you for reading all 8 pages of this thread! :tu: ^-^; a feet i would never had managed should i have joined in with the lupin bandwagan later than the 3rd page^-^ you should join some of the lupin societies RedCape!
secondly- good point on Sirius belonging to harry..it does make sense...and i do take the point of lupin initally being in a teacher student relationship with harry...harry was aware that lupin knew his father before sirius....but n/m that...hopefully harry will come to see lupin as lessof a teacher and more of an honoury uncle figure

EY! No way Lupin is gonna be a traitor ... JK already took Sirius away and If she takes Lupin, I will hunt her down and gut her like a fish and swear that I'll never buy any of her books again. I'll just add HOWL to my sig later ...

This is completely sadistic. How do all expect me to keep up with this thread and the Snivellus Snape thread?

Lol, I guess I understand how you feel! I've been away all day, and I come back and you all have finished two more pages of posts! And not only that, but I miss talking with everyone on the forums when I'm gone, since I love all of you so much!

Anyway, I completely agree with what you said, Lestrange, about Remus being "doomed to walk the planet alone." As much as I'd like for him to find someone to share his life with, I see him as more of a person who is content with solitude and independence. And he definitely wouldn't want to risk putting anyone else in danger. Plus, what would become of those of us who are madly in love with Remus? :blush:

As for the questions about how contagious lycanthropy is, I did a little bit of research and found some interesting, as well as conflicting information. On one site (http://www.playspoon.com/twi/howto.html) I found a convenient list of ways to become a werewolf, which does include heredity. I'm not too sure as to the reliability of the site, but it was all the information I could find on that subject at the moment.