All about Remus Lupin

I hope J.K. Rowling doesn't make Remus a traitor, but I highly doubt she will. For one thing, Lupin is one of her favorite characters, so she probably wouldn't want everyone to start hating him. Also, Lupin is a very honest and sensible person, and he would never want to hurt the son of one of his very dearest friends, nor anyone else for that matter.

If she does make him into a traitor, however, I'm sure I could think of something perfectly evil to do to her... :evil: But then again, like Cat, I would still appreciate him as a character.

Oh I couldn't read all the thread, so please forgive my ignorance, there are only so many cute Remusy things you can cope with in one thread at a time, and frankly by the time you metioned him being a father, I was on the floor.^_^


Well, firstly and not wishing to sound all know it all, but Godfather is nothing more than a spirtual thing in Britain it gives you no rights. But if I remember rightly Sirius was not just Harry's godfather but his guardian, that is different, that gives Sirius all the legal rights his parents would have had. In all legal matters, Harry would be akin to Sirius's son, it is Sirius even in the position he is in, that would have the final say in Harry's welfare. Unless Harry was also left under the guardianship of DD as well.

As for Harry getting closer to Remus give him time, Harry still thinks of Remus as his professor as some one said and with Sirius around he had no reason to look else where for a role model and confident. With Sirius gone he only has Remus to turn to, to know about his parents and about Sirius. Remus wont push himself forward for the role and will take a different manner then Sirius did if he does, but I think he will become closer to Harry.

Remus showed by turning up at the station, cleverly with other people, that he is prepared to take on that role in Harry's life, but he is shrewd enough to wait. Harry will have to go to Remus when he is ready, had Remus tried to befriend Harry more at this stage he would have looked like he was trying to take Sirius's place and lost Harry perhaps for good.

As for Remus finding someone to love him and look beyond his condition, why not, women are more willing to look beyond such things and he would be a pretty good catch, kind, considerate, intelligent, humours, would make a good father and he has a pretty good grasp on what its like to lose it once a month, sounds like an ideal partner if you ask me.

Remus Lupin has been my favourite character since I first read PoA when it was released.

While I think Remus has a very cold a calculating side,which he showed in the shreiking shack with his matter of fact manner in which he was prepared to kill Wormtail.

However, he would not really make it as a tratior, it would be expected that a werewolf become one of Voldermorts men, and the last thing Remus would want is to play up to the sterotype of werewolves, when he has fought that all his life. So no I don't think Remus Lupin would become a traitor.

Thanks for allowing me a view, like your thread.

This is completely sadistic. How do all expect me to keep up with this thread and the Snivellus Snape thread? ;)

I agree! Well, actually I don't read the Snape thread, but this one is pretty long! I haven't been to this thread in a while (sorry! I'm back now!) and I just spent over an hour reading through the posts. Glad to see that the focus has shifted from talking about Lupin dying though. ^_^ I don't have time to reply to everything that I want to, but I'll do as much as I can before I start falling asleep.

Horray! The Cod Squad is still going strong! Lestrange, I had to cover my mouth to muffle my laughter when I saw your siggy! It's great! :lol: I will have to put some Cod Squad support in my siggy too. :D

...and I'll have to join the Big Squishy Group Hug for Lupin Society too! If it wasn't 12:40 in the morning I'd do it now.

I'd love to see another werewolf! I like the idea of a bitter resentful one. "In the end they can't even convince themselves of their own humanity." - That's a wonderful theory Puffskein!

Lupin as a daddy! Oh, that's so cute! He should find himself a nice female werewolf. It'd be perfect! They'd never be a threat to each other because they would be human at the same time, and wolves at the same time. Though I don't know if they would have kids. Either the baby would be a werewolf (baby werewolf? would it transform into a pup? That'd be so cute!), or if it was a normal human, then it'd be at risk every full moon. :(

Gabriel
he has a pretty good grasp on what its like to lose it once a month, sounds like an ideal partner if you ask me.
lol. ah, that's great. ^_^

despite that he is the last marauder left..he can't be a traitor...

Gabriel,
Beaut post :)

Well, firstly and not wishing to sound all know it all, but Godfather is nothing more than a spirtual thing in Britain it gives you no rights.
Unless i'm mistaken, a godfather is just a spiritual thing -- unless your parents die. Then the godfather becomes your guardian. So legally, Sirius should've been harry's guardian from birth, except he was convicted as a murderer :(

As for Harry getting closer to Remus give him time, Harry still thinks of Remus as his professor as some one said and with Sirius around he had no reason to look else where for a role model and confident. With Sirius gone he only has Remus to turn to, to know about his parents and about Sirius. Remus wont push himself forward for the role and will take a different manner then Sirius did if he does, but I think he will become closer to Harry.
Yeah, good point, i agree. One more thing, tho - remember, REmus was there when harry talked to sirius in the fireplace. I think that's a nice sort of overlapping bit between them, that may prove to be important.

Unless i'm mistaken, a godfather is just a spiritual thing -- unless your parents die. Then the godfather becomes your guardian. So legally, Sirius should've been harry's guardian from birth, except he was convicted as a murderer

Yeah, I think you're right. Godfathers (or Godmothers) are supposed to be guardian's when children's parents die.

I'd like to see Remus with a partner, but I can't see him putting someone at risk by making advances, and I think if someone put the moves on him he'd back away bewildered.

Yeah, i'm with you on that one, Loz. But Lupin's now so horribly alone... it's like, he got back one of his best friends after 13 years... only to have him killed again, it's too mean!

I can't see him finding a female interest now... i mean, if a woman *truly* fell in, i reckon she'd resist his attempts to be pushed away, and it'd be possible for her, in the end, to come close to him... but i can't see Rowling writing a romance into Lupin's life... quite apart from everything, i reckon it could take away from the main plot, a bit.

I am almost positive that Lupin won't take risks. If he finds a girl (I hope he will) he won't have children with her. I am completely sure in that.

As for the questions about how contagious lycanthropy is, I did a little bit of research and found some interesting, as well as conflicting information. On one site (http://www.playspoon.com/twi/howto.html) I found a convenient list of ways to become a werewolf, which does include heredity. I'm not too sure as to the reliability of the site, but it was all the information I could find on that subject at the moment.

Here's a quote from Fantastic Beats and Where to Find Them: "Humans turn into werewolves only when bitten." So Lupin's children would be normal.

Back to my other point: The business with Kreacher shows that society has to accept some of the responsibility when the downtrodden go bad. JKR might continue this theme with other creatures such as werewolves. I imagine that Lupin wouldn't be a very nice person at all if Dumbledore hadn't let him into Hogwarts and if he hadn't found tolerant friends. I think he's been pretty lucky for a werewolf.

I expect Remus was as prepared as he could possibly be, but it will have hurt him grieviously. All of the order seem to accept the deaths for them and the others, and they seem to have come to terms with it, and know they will meet again.

However, we will never be able to meet dead characters again.

Has JK said we can never again see dead characters??? she just said they couldn't come back to life, not that they would never be seen again...I think there is more to that veil that harry and luna heard people talking behind...it's like a portal-to-the-underworld kinda thing

I think there is more to that veil that harry and luna heard people talking behind...it's like a portal-to-the-underworld kinda thing

As i said somewhere else, i really really doubt that there's any means of communicating with the dead. For one, i think it takes away from the dead being dead. But more significantly, i think, Rowling's a Christian -- and while ppl argue that HP books are non-christian. I disagree - there is nothing in HP, IMO, that goes against Christianity. But communicating with the dead certainly does - that's evil, by the Christian teachings -- and tho Christianity says it's possible, it's evil - which means that if this happens, it will be done by V's followers or Voldie himself. But i think not - as a Christian, i think Rowling will leave this touchy topic alone.

Here's a quote from Fantastic Beats and Where to Find Them: "Humans turn into werewolves only when bitten." So Lupin's children would be normal.


Oh, it means that there's still hope for our Lupin! I am honestly thirlled with this news.

I'm not sure about the heredity issue. According to that book, Lupin's children wouldn't be werewolves, but we don't know how the lycantrophy is transferred when bitten. Is it some sort of posion, or what? If it's a gene, his children COULD be werewolves as that gene could be transferred into their ADN, but I highly doubt the lycantrophy works that way.

Whatever it is, i can't see lupin having children, for reasons above.

But, for the sake of this discussion:
If the books says that a "human" does not become a werewolf unless receiving the bite, under that definition of "human" (which i think pretty disgusting), someone could be born a werewolf, not a human.

In my opinion, I think Lupin will become more and more of a 'father' character to Harry.

Anyway, I can't actually see a reason that would make JKR write about Lupin having children. As we already discussed it, it is quite possible that if Lupin survives, and if Harry survives, after definite fall of Voldemort, he'll have custody over him. That would be the time when Harry would be finally Durselys-free.

If the books says that a "human" does not become a werewolf unless receiving the bite, under that definition of "human" (which i think pretty disgusting), someone could be born a werewolf, not a human.

Oh, now your making my head hurt! Would a baby be considered a human if it's born a werewolf? I guess... not... hmm... very confused.

But I'm guessing that the author of Fantastic Beasts didn't get into the technical stuff - so if Lupin had a child he/she would be a normal human, based on the quote. (Humans turn into werewolves only when bitten.) But I don't think he'd have kids. It'd be dangerous for the child.

Well I also agree with the fact that Lupin won't have children. He has spent most of his life alone, why would he want to have children? Doesn't make sense at all, I don't see it coming.

a couple of questions, 1) now that Lupin is basically the only Marauder left, how do you think his attittude will change? 2) If, in the final battle, (I'm seeing a big adversary pair-up battle scene, before Harry and Voldie get separated) Lupin and Peter meet up? We all know Remus will kick Peter's *** but would he actually kill him? 3) Can I be a squeezer?

this thread is great! I want to join the The Big Squishy Group Hugs For Lupin Society too. ^_^

and he won't be a traitor! but I do think that he will meet up with Peter again Chrissy_Weasley. I don't think that Remus would kill Peter though. I think that maybe Peter will save Harry's life in the end. After all, Harry saved his life before. How Remus would fit in this theory I don't know.

Okay, now I have another question... What is the Cod squad?

Okay, now I have another question... What is the Cod squad?

we attack JK with cod fish if she kills Lupin. It was started at this thread (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=11322) but I think you can just add it to your siggy if you want to join. ^_^

a couple of questions, 1) now that Lupin is basically the only Marauder left, how do you think his attittude will change? 2) If, in the final battle, (I'm seeing a big adversary pair-up battle scene, before Harry and Voldie get separated) Lupin and Peter meet up? We all know Remus will kick Peter's *** but would he actually kill him? 3) Can I be a squeezer?

1- I think he will probably stay pretty much the same - in a sense he has already suffered the loss of his fellow marauders before hand...so it'll be a similar experience for him. The only change I can imagine is that he becomes more withdrawn and we see very little of him in book 6...which i really hope will not occur. His attitude towards harry will likely change in someway shape or form however.

2- I think if lupin had the chance he would kill peter...he was about to in poa. I'm not sure however, if he will be given the oppertunity. i do think they will fight etc, but i think harry might stop them from killing each other...putting wormatil doubly in harry's debt perhaps.

3- sure ya can^-^ just add it to ur sig! Same goes to you wolfie!

wolfie's right gryffindor seaker - you cna just add it to ur sig noproblem:)

love the sig picture btw wolfie- brilliant!

Lol, I guess I understand how you feel! I've been away all day, and I come back and you all have finished two more pages of posts! And not only that, but I miss talking with everyone on the forums when I'm gone, since I love all of you so much!

Lol I'm afriad to imagine everything I'll have to catch up on...I'm going on holiday to canada on friday for a week... :scared: hehe

aww i love you too scarlet chan! :) hehe

Anyway, I completely agree with what you said, Lestrange, about Remus being "doomed to walk the planet alone." As much as I'd like for him to find someone to share his life with, I see him as more of a person who is content with solitude and independence. And he definitely wouldn't want to risk putting anyone else in danger. Plus, what would become of those of us who are madly in love with Remus?
Couldn't agree more...
I'd love to see daddy Lupin and husband Lupin or even Boyfriend Lupin...but if JK wrote about that it owuld likely just detract away from the story- there isnt going to be enough room for it in the next two books sadly. We wont see it - but its still fun to imagine and yap about ne?

great post gabriel! I definately agree with the last two paragraphs! The bit about Lupin turning up at the station was very good...everything that man does he does subtly so having others with him made perfect sense! oh and he'd definately be a good catch ;) hehe
*nods* I agree about the fireplace also Seerius! That was so sweet how they both helped harry out. It was lupin who in fact spoke to him first^-^ aww cutie!

Anyway, I can't actually see a reason that would make JKR write about Lupin having children. As we already discussed it, it is quite possible that if Lupin survives, and if Harry survives, after definite fall of Voldemort, he'll have custody over him. That would be the time when Harry would be finally Durselys-free.

another good point gaurdian - if lupin is going to get anywhere near 'having children' in the books it would be harry^-^ that would make a nice happy ending wouldn't it?
-probably wont happen then.

Here's a quote from Fantastic Beats and Where to Find Them: "Humans turn into werewolves only when bitten." So Lupin's children would be normal.

I'm very greatful to hear that! And coming from J.K. Rowling herself, it is sure to be the most reliable source of information possible!

Lol I'm afriad to imagine everything I'll have to catch up on...I'm going on holiday to canada on friday for a week... hehe

Wow, that is scary! Lol, I guess we'll have to try not to make too many posts for you to go through!

Oh, now your making my head hurt! Would a baby be considered a human if it's born a werewolf? I guess... not... hmm... very confused.

Well, considering the fact that not even adult werewolves like Remus are considered fully human, my guess would be that the child wouldn't be either. :( That is, if it is at all possible to be born a werewolf.

*slaps forehead* I am just now getting to this thread! I don't have time to read all six pages, so this is all I'm gonna say:

I heart Lupin. He's my fave character. For more musings, see the All About Lupin (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=11322) thread. Oh, and can I be a member of all the clubs? H.O.W.L., Squishy Hugs, etc? I'm already a member of the Cod Squad (I'm bringing the swordfish :elaugh:)

Showing my appreciating a little late though, aren't I? :sigh:

Just add them to you siggie Mel

Showing my appreciating a little late though, aren't I?

Don' worry, Mel, we know you appreciate Lupin! Lol, before I realized there were two different threads about Remus, I was so confused! One day I would come to this one and post, and the next day I would go to the other one and be like, "I was so sure I posted something here yesterday, and how in the world did we change topics so quickly?" Lol, not too quick, am I?

1) Now that Lupin is basically the only Marauder left, how do you think his attittude will change?
I don't think Remus' attitude will change drastically, since, as Aeterna Kai mentioned, he has already pretty much been through the same thing before (although the roles between Sirius and Peter were basically switched). Remus is a strong person, and has proved himself capable of suffering numerous times in the past. I just hope he will find more reasons to be happy in the future.

2) If, in the final battle, (I'm seeing a big adversary pair-up battle scene, before Harry and Voldie get separated) Lupin and Peter meet up, what will happen? I would love to see Remus take on the little rat, but I think Harry's insistance that James would not have wanted him or Sirius to become murderers probably struck Lupin as a more reasonable solution. Although Sirius did say that if he tried to escape after they captured him, they would gladly kill him...

Although it would be nice, I just can't see Lupin being with anyone. Sometime I just think that he's doomed to walk the planet alone, I just it as part of his character. I don't think that he would want someone to be with him, because he'd probably be afraid of accidently attacking them on a full moon or something (look how he resigned in Prisoner of Azkaban, and he didn't even hurt anything!).
I agree with you there. It would seem a bit out of character for him to suddenly be open and confident enough to share himself completely with someone. At the very least it would take a long time.

BTW, I love your Cod Squad: Killer Whale siggy! :rotfl:

it'd be funny to see remus drunk tho wouldnt it?
I think it would be very revealing, which is why I would love to see it.

Helhorns, where did you get those pics of Gary Oldman as Sirius for your sig????

As for Remus finding someone to love him and look beyond his condition, why not, women are more willing to look beyond such things and he would be a pretty good catch, kind, considerate, intelligent, humours, would make a good father and he has a pretty good grasp on what its like to lose it once a month, sounds like an ideal partner if you ask me.
I don't think the problem would be finding a woman who would except him (look at all the HP fans who are madly in love with him ;)). I think it would be Lupin having trouble letting someone get that close to him, both physically (because of his condition being dangerous to her) and emotionally (he is quite introverted).

it is quite possible that if Lupin survives, and if Harry survives, after definite fall of Voldemort, he'll have custody over him.
Well, at the end of the books, Harry would be "of age" right? Well, given the type of person Harry is, I would think he would then move out on his own. I think he would certainly be able to take care of himself. The main reason most kids live with their parents for a while after grade school is because they don't have enough money to move out, and that wouldn't be a problem for Harry. Plus, moving in with Lupin would have... monthly problems. :scared: And this all depends on whether Harry and Lupin survive, and if JKR chooses to elaborate on the kind of life Harry lives after school.

Re: what would happen if Lupin had kids...
I haven't read Fantastic Beasts, but like I said earlier in this thread, I've never really considered werewolfism genetic. They are called half-breeds, but weren't they born human? I think of werewolfism as more of a disease or virus. Something that turns you into a monstrous wolf at full moon, but once that passes, you are fully human again. If this is true, then werewolfism can only be passed on from the mother (since the baby is carried in her diseased womb). But if a surrogate mother was used (placing the embryo in a non-werewolf), the baby would not be a werewolf. However, I have no idea if this is true. It simply makes more sense to me. :)

May I please join Big Squishy Hugs for Lupin Society? What a cute name!

Remus has to be my favorite character of all time in the HP series, mainly becuase I can relate to him so well! We're both shy, bookish, sweet...and of course, we have flaws. It's not really his fault though, who wouldn't want friends if eveyone disliked you? Remus didn't really stand up for himself or anyone becuase he didn't want to lose what little he had. I would probably do the same thing if I were in his situation!

Lol don't worry about it Mel appreciation can never be too late;) - I get mega confizzled between all the lupin threads too...actually haven't I already made you a member of squishy hugs? Maybe I just added you to our numbers without thinking, or maybe not...hum ah well I'll add another one for good measure^-^

Nurika of course you can - just put 'em in your sig:)
I think one of the reasons i like Lupin is for the same reason as you^-^

There are undoubtable a lot of lupins out there - i guess this is an appreciation not only for lupin- but for all lupinlike people out there who need some appreciation ;) hehe

i have missed so much on here! Well, anyways, let me say i really really highly doubt Lupin will turn traitor because it is just not him! And he hates traitors, like in PoA when he was about to kill Wormtail. i am so glad more people are coming to this thread! *bounces* yay!

Helhorns, where did you get those pics of Gary Oldman as Sirius for your sig????

someone still has that picture? i completely missed seeing it!


I don't think the problem would be finding a woman who would except him (look at all the HP fans who are madly in love with him ;)). I think it would be Lupin having trouble letting someone get that close to him, both physically (because of his condition being dangerous to her) and emotionally (he is quite introverted).

Very very true Mel, that is definately a good point on Remus character...lord knows I understand only too well that part of Remus' pain. :shrug:

Lupin, Lupin, Lupin,
Hes definetly my fav character now. Now that Sirius is gone. Hes like, the pure good, you can never expect something evil from him. I find it ironis though, that somone this good is a warewolf, a something evil and something that people are mostly scared of. Hes a great character though. I hope we see more of him!!!!
Props Remus!

Very very true Mel, that is definately a good point on Remus character...lord knows I understand only too well that part of Remus' pain. :shrug:
Same here. I have some trust issues. :rolleyes: I'm also an introvert. I guess that's why I identify a lot with Lupin as well! Except I'm not nearly as mature. :p

:blush: Thank you to all who praised my post, humbled indeed.

A couple of points since then, one about the Godfather Guardian thing, Sirius was and is Harry's Godfather and Guardian, he tells Harry he was made his Guardian by Harry's parents before they died, so it is legally binding and unless someone goes to court to change it, it wouldn't matter that Sirius was a an alledged murderer(note alledge, no trail, no verdict)this is the law as it stands in Britain or a summing up of it anyway.


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One interesting feature of this brief history of Godparents is that there is no mention of the legal role. One of the most widespread myths is that the Godparents become the legal guardians of the child if its parents die. It is worth being clear about this: Godparents never had any legal responsibility for the child. The law surrounding guardians is interesting. Traditionally the child was the father’s property, and so it was the father who decided all the issues relating to the child’s upbringing. If the child’s father was dead or absent, then it was the duty of the parish to care for the child. From a legal point of view, it was in 1891 that the child’s moral welfare was first considered (The Custody of Children Act). The mothers had to wait another 34 years for their rights were acknowledged. It was only in a Parliamentary Act of 1925 that they were granted legal rights of access.

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As for Remus becomeing a parent, :clap: there is no possible way that he would pass on his condition to his children through his DNA, Remus was born a human being his DNA was written when mytosis took place as a human and it could not be altered by his being bitten by a werewolf. The condition of lycanthropy is a mythical one, or a mental one if you want a non mythical use. So it is only present in the person and not hereditary in Remus's genes. As the werewolfism is carried in a bite in the form of blood invasion, then as child in the womb carries only fetal or its mothers blood, it is unlikely that Remus could pass on his condition this way either.

There is some thought that like the story of Dracula. the Werewolf myths were told as metaphorphic stories that they were used to expalin the sexual repression and hormonal behaviour of women.The bite of a werewolf being the same type of curse that Eve recieved for her wanton behaviour in the garden of Eden and nothing could be worse then being an out of control like a women if you were a man.

Remus Lupin certainly comes across as a very balanced character, with not only his representation of racism but of feminty and how hard it is to understand women.(if your male that is :whistle: )

As to whether Remus would let someone close to him, yes eventually he would, he let Sirius, James and Peter become his friend, so given the right circumstance and someone he trusted as much as one can be trusted, he would give his heart to someone. After all falling in love is hardly a switch you turn on or off, so Rmeus falling in love may well be out of his hands and that love begining reciprocrated has already been established (Ladies form an orderly queue to the right).Jk said herself he likes to be liked, so he would certainly like to be loved, what ever his head tells him, his heart must long for someone. Also Remus is older, he has more control over his condition as well as the wolfsbane potion.

So I say yes Remus could and should fall in love :clap: and be given a chance of happiness and being a father if he so wishes, with out him moving to far away from the Remus we know from canon at present. Maybe someone has come into his life, but then I am a member of the SS.Wotcher Wolfie ship, so I would think that. :clap:

Ok you can throw rotten fruit now, have finished my know all Hermione momment.

:blush: Thank you to all who praised my post, humbled indeed.

Ok you can throw rotten fruit now, have finished my know all Hermione momment.

Your analyzing is indeed praise-worthy! I wont throw fruit at you, but I can't stop others.! :p Anyways you defintely said 1,000,000x's more than I could say.!

Hey I don't see why Remus should have a woman in his life. I wonder who it could be? *wink* lol Anyways I want to see more Remus and that would VERY interesting indeed.! :D

I've grown rather fond of him.! He's my fav Marauder. And you know I think he's sexy. In an odd sort of way. Ya know he's the stron silent type. hehe :D He's smart too.! And he's a werewolf(dangerous yes, but still cool). So yeah.!

Cool, Thanks rons-lover, I tend to say millions more than most people(most of it rubbish, hey but its well thought through rubbish) I don't get out much! Life wanted for HP obsessive!^_^

I :agree: with all you said, especially the sexy dangerous bit that's Remus. :angel:

No one will mind if I join HOWL, and Big Squishy Group Hugs for Lupin and the Cod Squad, will they?

I love Lupin! He is my favorite character after Sirius. If anyone asks Book 5 never happened and Sirius is still alive.

By the way does anyone know what WTAS, SSAS, and the RKEBNMWOPT club are? I've seen them on some people's sigs.

I've grown rather fond of him.! He's my fav Marauder. And you know I think he's sexy. In an odd sort of way. Ya know he's the stron silent type. hehe He's smart too.! And he's a werewolf(dangerous yes, but still cool). So yeah.!

Intelligent, charming, and a bit dangerous. Yep, that would definitely be considered sexy in my book!

As for Remus becomeing a parent, there is no possible way that he would pass on his condition to his children through his DNA, Remus was born a human being his DNA was written when mytosis took place as a human and it could not be altered by his being bitten by a werewolf.

I understand that a person's DNA is already written before they are even born, and although it is a mythological condition, it would seem that some sort of alteration in a person's genetic makeup would take place when a human becomes a wolf. Afterall, scientists are able to genetically engineer organisms by inserting the gene of one species into an entirely different species, in effect altering the subject's genetic makeup. Since when a human is bitten by a werewolf, he or she changes into an entirely different species every full moon, is it possible that a werewolf bite does something similar? And if so, could that change be passed on to the offspring?

I understand that a person's DNA is already written before they are even born, and although it is a mythological condition, it would seem that some sort of alteration in a person's genetic makeup would take place when a human becomes a wolf. Afterall, scientists are able to genetically engineer organisms by inserting the gene of one species into an entirely different species, in effect altering the subject's genetic makeup. Since when a human is bitten by a werewolf, he or she changes into an entirely different species every full moon, is it possible that a werewolf bite does something similar? And if so, could that change be passed on to the offspring?

Perhaps this is why Lupin has refrained from involving himself in a relationship.

Christine,

WTAS = Weasley Twins Appreciation Society and SSAS = Severus Snape Appreciation Society
No idea what RKEBNMWOPT stands for. I think I've seen it around before but I'm still quite the newbie.

Jennifer

Intelligent, charming, and a bit dangerous. Yep, that would definitely be considered sexy in my book!

NoOooOoo! This will not become a Snape thread. *stamps on idea of Remus ever being considered more than a nice, wholesome fellow*

Okies, now that I've done that: First-- wolfie, I love your sig, that's a really great picture of a fish, I usually just took mine from other websites, slowly consuming their bandwith. :whistle:

I think that werewolf-ism is passed down in families, I mean apparantly there seem to be a lot more werewolves other than Remus (they always seem to mention them in the books, vaguely), maybe some of them are just passed down from family to family? That could be a part of the curse, you can't get close to anyone emotionally/physically because you'd be passing down your conditon, your curse to your children. It'd be horrible, probably the goals of every single parent is to give your kids a better life than you had yourself, wouldn't that be just terrible to watch them go through that?

Or at least, I'd like to think all that horrible stuff. I don't want to see Remus with anyone, really, and I'm sticking by that. Part of his character is that he's so very sweet and so very sad at the same time... Of course he deserves to be happy and I'd wish him nothing more than a wife and nine children living in a manor deep in the country if he'd want to get married, but do you all honestly think that he'd want to? It would seem unrealistic for someone like him to ever be close enough to someone to love them. It's probably just me not wanting to share him, though.

And what's with all this Tonks/Lupin shipping? I mean the first time I read Order of the Phoenix it was early in the morning and I was hopped up on coffee, so naturally I'd be picking up every typical delusional shipper heart vibe, but the second time I read the book, I thought "What in the bejesus was I thinking? Tonks and Lupin?" I mean, I don't want to sound rude, being a former shipper myself, but why Tonks and Lupin?

I truly shudder at the thought.

Okay, I think--and this is purely speculation that the Tonks/Lupin ship was born because her eagerness, clumsiness, spunkiness, and joie de vive just seemed to mesh well with his quiet, reserved, mellow manner. They don't directly interact with one another much, but they two personalities seem to mesh and block out other things, even when there's somebody highly exciting and excitable like Moody around (which is actually nice because if we had to listen to Mad-Eye's paranoia having free rein in every scene he's in, it would get old fast). It's kind of a similar vibe to the one you get off Arabella Figg and Mundungus Fletcher.

I don't think being a werewolf is hereditary in the usual sense. However, I do think it is quite possible that Remus was bitten by a relative, maybe even a parent (check out his last name). Plus he was "very small" when he received the bite and he doesn't strike me as the type of kid to go wandering off at night.

Hello to everyone at H.O.W.L.
for info on the RKEBNMWOP club PM Guardian Angel or me. It's a secret! :D

Thanks Kosmic! :)

Whoever wants to know what RKEBNMWOPT has to PM me or Loz or Kosmic or GryffindorSeeker... whoever you see that has in in their sigs! :D

It's a top secret so we mustn't spread it around the boards...

Lol I'm afriad to imagine everything I'll have to catch up on...I'm going on holiday to canada on friday for a week... :scared: hehe

Don't go! ... Oh, I mean - have a great time! :D Tell us all about it when you come back!


another good point gaurdian - if lupin is going to get anywhere near 'having children' in the books it would be harry^-^ that would make a nice happy ending wouldn't it?
-probably wont happen then.

But if it does... which I doubt... it could only be at the very end of book 7. But I don't know, I think the end will be pretty sad...

But if it does... which I doubt... it could only be at the very end of book 7. But I don't know, I think the end will be pretty sad...
Eh, i just don't get why ppl are so intent on the Lupin having kids thing... hehe..

But i agree, i think the ending will be sad -- even if Harry conquers Voldie in the end... there's just so much bad that can happen... what with sirius and harry's parents dead... and, i mean - i dont think lupin would let harry live with him, it's too much of a risk. It's too mean... :(

Whichever way you look at it, i don't think the ending can be happy, even the happiest possible ending would have a bitter taste in it because james, lily, and sirius are gone...

He he he! My first message on this forum...I've just joined but I've been reading this thread for months because I LOVE LUPIN!!!! Anyway. Now I've got that out of my system...
I agree with what you said about the ending not being happy even if Lupin lives- he's been through so much that he can hardly just wander off and have a normal life, and the same applies to Harry. Like LOTR, there's going to be a kind of bittersweetness about the ending whatever happens.
Can I join Codsmack and the Lupin-squishy-group-hug-group-thing? This is the right thread, isn't it?

Hey, first post? :welcome:
Anyway, yup, this is certainly the place for lupin drooling :D

ooooh, good. I will be drooling here a lot then.

Oho, :welcome: new flash...!! I mean - New Lupin Lover... :D

Same here. I have some trust issues. I'm also an introvert. I guess that's why I identify a lot with Lupin as well! Except I'm not nearly as mature.

ah Mel we'll get past the introversion and other issues eventually I'm sure^-^ sadly I am as mature as Remus...which blocks out the whole spontanious, let yourself go thing...shame really.

another great post gabriel!! :clap: clappies are back! :D
though Im not with the whole lupin tonks cruise liner...^-^;

I've grown rather fond of him.! He's my fav Marauder. And you know I think he's sexy. In an odd sort of way. Ya know he's the stron silent type. hehe He's smart too.! And he's a werewolf(dangerous yes, but still cool). So yeah.!

:blush: ah Lupin, Lupin, Lupin....

There is nothing to squish out Lestrange...never in a million years would this turn into a snape thread :grumble: ...Lupin is wholesome...tis just once a month he gets a lil bit wild :agree:

Don't go! ... Oh, I mean - have a great time! Tell us all about it when you come back!

^-^ lol thankies gaurdian! I will do...although I ama litte more worried today...I was away for one night and this thread already hit the 10 page mark!
Do you think we'll ever beat the shipper pages...they're on 30 already^-^; actually I don't mind about that-but I do think we shouldget ahead of the snape appreciation thread :elaugh: hehe

Whichever way you look at it, i don't think the ending can be happy, even the happiest possible ending would have a bitter taste in it because james, lily, and sirius are gone...

ah too true- it is looking that way isn't it. But you never know - JK can turn it all around with her writting genious Im sure..if she wants to that is...I hope it doesn't have a bitter sweet ending like LOTR...I didn't care much for that ending myself...

:welcome: loony4moony! Of course you can join in those things- just add em to your sig:) yup yup lot sof lupin drooling going on here! :agree:

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Just showing people how much I looove this smiley!

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Since, I've done that, I'd like to say one more thing... If JKR is as loony as I am she'll write a chapter where Lupin and Harry decide to go to some weird old witch who will find a way fro them to contact Sirius and James... :D

welcome to the thread Christine! Of course you may join those groups! I'll add ya number to the members :D

ah and I also know what RKEBNMWOPT stands for^-^
(Sorry for not getting back to you about that Gaurdian!!) but
I don't fully agree with it anywho so tis not in my sig; but don't worry your secret is safe with me^-^

Since, I've done that, I'd like to say one more thing... If JKR is as loony as I am she'll write a chapter where Lupin and Harry decide to go to some weird old witch who will find a way fro them to contact Sirius and James... :D

tehe that would be classic! I'd love to see that! :clap:

and as for my last comment on getting ahead of the snape thread...i take it back- i just had a quick look out of curiosity and well there is no way in hell we're going to get this past 65....

Ah, aeterna... it isn't that black after all...

*lowers her voice* Psst - I know what we could do...Maybe we should ask Moderators to merge the Remus Lupin Appreciation Thread with this one... we'd get more pages at once... But quiet the Snape Sevages mustn't hear us... *raises the tone in her voice* Good to see ya, then there mate. :D

Ah, aeterna... it isn't that black after all...

*lowers her voice* Psst - I know what we could do...Maybe we should ask Moderators to merge the Remus Lupin Appreciation Thread with this one... we'd get more pages at once... But quiet the Snape Sevages mustn't hear us... *raises the tone in her voice* Good to see ya, then there mate. :D

Ah, great to see you too mate^-^
*lowers her voice to a whisper*
great idea! also less confizzling too keep up with!
*raises her voice again*
hum..where'd I put my sandwich.... :whistle:
*lowers her voice*
but Garudian...aren't you a snape sevage too? I saw your posts in that thread
*blinks innocently* :angel:

maybe we should have a poll^-^ its nice having lots of remus thread too...but one would be easier.

Eh, i just don't get why ppl are so intent on the Lupin having kids thing... hehe..

But i agree, i think the ending will be sad -- even if Harry conquers Voldie in the end... there's just so much bad that can happen... what with sirius and harry's parents dead... and, i mean - i dont think lupin would let harry live with him, it's too much of a risk. It's too mean... :(


But after Harry graduates, he will no longer need a gaurdian. I think of Lupin's role, not as a father figure, not as another Sirius, but more as a sympathetic, understanding friend. I hope we see more of him in future books and we probably will- his role in the Order is bound to have grown, and maybe this will be a device to show us more about his past, etc. :: Crosses fingers and hopes JK's muses heard that ::

Ah, aeterna such lovely day today..

*lowers her voice* Yeah, I go there as well, but I want to see this thread growing... *raises her voice*

Not such a good day after all... It is raining...

Ah, aeterna such lovely day today..

*lowers her voice* Yeah, I go there as well, but I want to see this thread growing... *raises her voice*

Not such a good day after all... It is raining...

*in quiet voice*

okies I concur^-^ (love using big words when im sleepy) ah we should see about it them...the lupin threads r gunna get confusing at first though, with all of our posts getting muddled up-but it'd be worth it in the long run:)

*spekaing normally again*

yeah it slooking pretty bleak here too...and even worse I have to go and wash up...be back soon! :shrug:

That's okay, aeterna... :) I don't even wanna imagine what horrible things would happen if you'd say something about RKEBNMWOPT in some of the threads... :scared:

That's okay, aeterna... :) I don't even wanna imagine what horrible things would happen if you'd say something about RKEBNMWOPT in some of the threads... :scared:

I know :( some people can be so cruel :sad:
its not that i don't agree...kind of..just the last two books have kinda put me off it...if you get my meaning^-^; lol i feel like harry trying to write a secret letter to snuffles :lol:

anywho what thread is this again* blinks* ah Lupin...yes^-^

*hugs Lupin*
havent done that in a while - he was looking like he could bretah too easily again...needs more squishing me thinks!

What do you think lupin got in his owls?

WHAT??? Remus? Traitor? How DARE you suggest such a thing! Blasphemer!



What do you think lupin got in his owls?

12 Outstanding's. Obviously.

12 Outstanding's. Obviously.

No he wasn't very good at potions was he that's why Snape was making him the wolfsbane

No he wasn't very good at potions was he that's why Snape was making him the wolfsbane

*nods* hum and if he took divination....

actually don't know whether remus would have opted for that...probably went for arithmancy like hermione.

on another slightly related note...james and sirius in divination :whistle:

Oh ... most definetly an OWL in DADA ... lol names five distingguished marks of a werewolf ... he;s sitting in my chair,wearing my clothes and his name is Remes Lupin ... lol that was a killer! Poor Fella.

Oh ... most definetly an OWL in DADA ... lol names five distingguished marks of a werewolf ... he;s sitting in my chair,wearing my clothes and his name is Remes Lupin ... lol that was a killer! Poor Fella.


I know! That was so hilarious! But I feel sad for him at the same time. To be burdened with such a terrible fate.

It's possible, he could have good at potions, but the Wolfsbane came after he took the O.W.L, so perhaps it was new and more complex, and he didn't know how to make it? Snape would have to know since he teaches the subject for a living. I'm not sure on that one, but I bet he did great on all his O.W.L.'s anyway.

It must be awful to have the person who helps you live better be your enemy. Poor Lupin!

Okay okay...Maybe not 12 I was just being enthused! I'm sure he got good grades though him being Study-boy-book-person and all that jazz.

I'm sure he did really well in them- maybe he did get 12^-^ you never know...but it does depend what subjects he took.
Even the best wizards aren't too great at wolfsbane...he said he wans't very good at potions, but still this is lupin- very modest man:)


ah and I agree...it mustn't be very pleaent for him to acept help form snape...though i think its probably worse on snape than lupin :lol:

In POA he says to Harry
"I have never been much of a potion brewer and this ones particularly complex"
When Snape brings him the potion whil he's talking to Harry (Pg 118 UK version

Maybe he passed potions but just didn't get a great mark. He probably knew all the theory but wasn't so good at actually making them

LOL - James and SIrius in divination. And you thought Harry and Ron were bad in that class

I loved how Lupin was able to laugh at himself with that OWL queston

Oh ... most definetly an OWL in DADA ... lol names five distingguished marks of a werewolf ... he;s sitting in my chair,wearing my clothes and his name is Remes Lupin ... lol that was a killer! Poor Fella.

Oh I forgot to reply to this^-^ so many posts so many different subjects my heads spinning!

anywho _ i really loved that bit - it wa snice to see Lupin pulling a funny^-^ having him lighten up a bit ne? Bless him hehe

He probably did get a good O.W.L score, but just studied really hard like you all said. He seems like that kind of hard-working person.

Yep, Lupin can make fun of himself, and has a great sense of humor. He's a great person! =D

Haha! James and Sirius in Divination!? That would be the funniest thing in the world? And Harry and Ron are bad...

Can you imagine Remus giving a crystal ball reading to Trelawney?
"Now, I don't want to alam you Sybil but there seems to be a huge Praying Mantis after you..." he looks up and realises everything shes wearing is green and glittery..."Ah."

Squish! I'm here agaian... :)

I think that Wolfsbane potion was very complicated to be brewed... or did Lupin say that he was bad at potions?

Can you imagine Remus giving a crystal ball reading to Trelawney?
"Now, I don't want to alam you Sybil but there seems to be a huge Praying Mantis after you..." he looks up and realises everything shes wearing is green and glittery..."Ah."

and we wondered why Remus was afriad of trelawney and her crystal ball...well actually trelawney wouldnt have been teaching when they were at school...she only joined 16 yrs ago...but im sure the last divinations teacher was just as bad.

Maybe remus had a bad experience one lesson...

Gosh everyone is posting so much it took me a bit to catch up, lol. Hey Guardian Angel is it ok if i PM you about what the RKEBNMWOPT club is cuz i'm curious..and i won't tell anybody! OK about the O.W.L.s i'm sure Lupin did extremely well! and even if he is not so good at potions, he would have still gotten a good grade on it anyway! he might have made himself seem worse at potions than he really is--being his modest self lol.

Sure SadieBee! Be my guest! :D

PM me about the RKEBNMWOPT club if you like I'll tell you

editted to add: Dang! she beat me to it

Muahaha - I'm one evil and very fast girl ! :D

No, really, the next one who wants to know about RK...(you know the rest) club he's all yours, Kosmic! :D

lol i feel luved!! sorry Kosmic but i sent it before i read your post, otherwise i would have sent it to both of you lol

Well we don't expect everyone to get sraight 'O's (except maybe Hermy and James and Sirius. but its great that Lupin is a kidder and sees no down side of being a werewolf ... well maybe sometimes but that's what makes him fun!

ah Mel we'll get past the introversion and other issues eventually I'm sure^-^ sadly I am as mature as Remus...which blocks out the whole spontanious, let yourself go thing...shame really.

I'm glad to see that there are more introverts around :) Everyone I know says I'm too shy and quiet and that I should just let myself go wild sometimes, but sadly my self control won't hear of it! Oh well.

Hmmm, it actually is a lovely day here...
*lowers voice to a whisper*
I like the idea of merging the two Remus threads, aeterna and guardian angel. That would make 17 pages of Lupiny goodness :D (I guess that is still nowhere near 65, but oh well) Anyone know a mod we could ask?
*Raises voice back to normal*
...um...yeah...lovely day :whistle:

I'm glad to see that there are more introverts around :) Everyone I know says I'm too shy and quiet and that I should just let myself go wild sometimes, but sadly my self control won't hear of it! Oh well.

^-^yeah big ditto for that one. My mam keeps telling me to drink alcohol (not get drunk mind you..)when i go out so I'll loosen up :lol:
I normally get pretty happy on cola though...


Hmmm, it actually is a lovely day here...
*lowers voice to a whisper*
I like the idea of merging the two Remus threads, aeterna and guardian angel. That would make 17 pages of Lupiny goodness :D (I guess that is still nowhere near 65, but oh well) Anyone know a mod we could ask?
*Raises voice back to normal*
...um...yeah...lovely day :whistle:

^-^ *whispers*
yes 17 would be better...maybe they'll get tired of snape soon and we can catch up...Im sure the marauders would be able to think of a away to slow snape down...darn being a muggle. sadly don't know any mods personaly...

*normal voice reappears*
ah yes :whistle: what was i saying...

oh ahum Lupin :drool:

As I was saying... Hem, Hem...

*lowers her voice* We're naughty Lupin lover girls *raises her voice*

So, I just go down the street and see a cat with five legs... Crazy world we live in, really...

No probs Sadie and Gaurdian. Just trying to be helpful :D

Aww! We is neglacting poor Remmy cuz we is too busy yacking about Sirius and stag's in the other threads

We love you to Moony!

As I was saying... Hem, Hem...

*lowers her voice* We're naughty Lupin lover girls *raises her voice*

So, I just go down the street and see a cat with five legs... Crazy world we live in, really...

*whispers*
:lol: hehe I think you may have another society on your hands with that one gaurdian! N.L.L.G :clap: ( a secret society of course :p )

oh the joy lupin brings us...


ya know if the two threads were combined, we might actually be able to talk about lupin once in a while...

*yells*
a cat with 5 legs? pah! thats nothing...i saw a multi coloured elephant the other week.

can you just imagine what lupin would do if a whole buch of fan girls just turne dup at his house one day?...imagining of course that he has a house...we should write to JK about this stuff...she'd loveit!

I am joining, I am joining!!

*holds up her REMUS pennant*

No probs Sadie and Gaurdian. Just trying to be helpful :D

Aww! We is neglacting poor Remmy cuz we is too busy yacking about Sirius and stag's in the other threads

We love you to Moony!

*gasp* remus' is feeling neglected!

*drags all 28 members into a big squishy suffacating lupin group hug*
I'm sure he feels lots better now:)

make that 29^-^ :welcome:

Hi Sinead! Welcome to our wacky world. Big squishy hug for you
*Big squishy group hug for all* especially Moony

Ooooh didn't mean to neglect Remus...
*hugs Remus*
sorry
*hugs Remus again*

oh the joy lupin brings us...




Whats the big attraction with Lupin. i always thought he was showed no emotion. or is this just a girl thing. :eyebrows:

Whats the big attraction with Lupin. i always thought he was showed no emotion. or is this just a girl thing. :eyebrows:

:lol: I hope I'm not that shallow^-^

yes its true Lupin shows *little* emotion..but thats a good quality well not exactly good, but interesting, he is intelligent, gentle, caring and subtle..his subtley is amazing!
There are so many great lupin moments-as you will have noted if you'd read through the thread.
he is a very deep and interetsing character....

thats why he brings us joy...not just because we think he's cute.

:lol: I hope I'm not that shallow^-^

yes its true Lupin shows *little* emotion..but thats a good quality well not exactly good, but interesting, he is intelligent, gentle, caring and subtle..his subtley is amazing!
There are so many great lupin moments-as you will have noted if you'd read through the thread.
he is a very deep and interetsing character....

thats why he brings us joy...not just because we think he's cute.

your right i should have read the thread but ther are so many posts... lol :elaugh:

No, but i do see you point he has got a lot of qualities.

:lol: I hope I'm not that shallow^-^

yes its true Lupin shows *little* emotion..but thats a good quality well not exactly good, but interesting, he is intelligent, gentle, caring and subtle..his subtley is amazing!
There are so many great lupin moments-as you will have noted if you'd read through the thread.
he is a very deep and interetsing character....

thats why he brings us joy...not just because we think he's cute.

Bingo. I might add he is also kind, reasonable, tragic, misunderstood, understanding, tolerant... need I go on? :)

Just thinking about the bit in POA where Snape finds the Marauders map and asks Lupin about it and he is so convincing that he knows nothing about it. Hehe! Naughty Moony lying to Snape. It just shows how cool Lupin is

Bingo. I might add he is also kind, reasonable, tragic, misunderstood, understanding, tolerant... need I go on? :)

please do^-^ the more Lupin priase the better!! :) hehe

your right i should have read the thread but ther are so many posts... lol

I know^-^ I'd be amazed if anyone read through all of them now, but its nice to have new posters in here Hamish :clap:

I know^-^ I'd be amazed if anyone read through all of them now, but its nice to have new posters in here Hamish :clap:

Thanx, do you not have a mix of people writing posts, or is it just you die hard lupin fans?

Thanx, do you not have a mix of people writing posts, or is it just you die hard lupin fans?

Kind of both^-^ Theres a bunch of core people here all the time...well actually we'r ein all of the lupin/sirius/marauder threads and then there are some peeps who post every so often!

it has been a little quiet in here today though..the main madness is over at the marauder appreciation thread right now^-^

I can't wait to see that part... I've always hated Snape (till book 5... Seems like my heart's too fragile sometimes...) but remember when Snape becomes a fool on the end of POA? Great!! Snapey was very annoying in that book...

I know I was starting to *forces the word out threw gritted teeth* 'like' snape a bit in book 5 but now I'm reading POA again and i'm like grrr!!

Just thinking about the bit in POA where Snape finds the Marauders map and asks Lupin about it and he is so convincing that he knows nothing about it. Hehe! Naughty Moony lying to Snape. It just shows how cool Lupin is

:lol: I'm going to laugh myself stupid at that part of the movie [if they keep it]. I was dissapointed that Harry didn't laugh at the insults, I would have done, regardless of the company. :elaugh:

Ok just had to hot foot it over here to give Moony a big hug after seeing aeterna's piccie of him on the Marauder's thread.
*squeezes Moony so tight he thinks he's going to burst*

can you just imagine what lupin would do if a whole buch of fan girls just turne dup at his house one day?...imagining of course that he has a house...we should write to JK about this stuff...she'd loveit!

Since Dumbledore told Sirius at the end of GoF to "lie low at Lupin's for a while," I guess it's safe to assume that he does have a house. I wonder where he lives... I would imagine that he would live in a secluded place in a forest or on a mountain so he wouldn't pose a threat to anyone when he turned into a werewolf.

Hehe, it would be hilarious if all of us Lupin fans showed up at his house one day, and when he answered the door we all shouted, "Big squishy group hugs for Lupin!" and dove on top of him in a big mess of hugs! :D

:welcome: Hamish D, to the world of Lupin Lovers, where both die hard fans and other admirers are always welcome! :)

Actually I'll add that the chaos is in the all about snivellus Snape thread. it's wrong, very wrong our discussion.

I love lupin just as much, I told JKR that.

Since Dumbledore told Sirius at the end of GoF to "lie low at Lupin's for a while," I guess it's safe to assume that he does have a house. I wonder where he lives... I would imagine that he would live in a secluded place in a forest or on a mountain so he wouldn't pose a threat to anyone when he turned into a werewolf.


I always pictured him living in a really cheap, run down apartment, as paid work was so hard to come by. I wonder what he does at the full moon - maybe there are places for Werewolf transformations? I also wonder what his parents did when he was little. They must have had to lock him up or bind him somehow. :frown:

Lupin. What more can you say! I feel so bad for him. His life has been filled with drama. He was bitten by a wolf when he was a kid, he has be shunned most of his life by everyone but a few dear and loyal people. He had to deal with James' death 15 years ago, now he has to deal with the death of his other best freind Sirius. And on top of that "he who must not be named" is back in action. What more is JKR going to put this more man through? Lupin and Sirius were my favorite chars, now I am down to one. I am scared to become attached to another char! If anything happens to Lupin it is going to be war!!!

I do think we shouldget ahead of the snape appreciation thread :elaugh: hehe
mwaha, yes I hope so too :evil: :scared: :angel:
Psst - I know what we could do...Maybe we should ask Moderators to merge the Remus Lupin Appreciation Thread with this one
I think it's a great idea! It makes sense too, since the purpose of both threads is the same. (even though we are suggesting it for our own purposes :elaugh:)

Lupin! :drool: *offers him a towel*

Hehe, it would be hilarious if all of us Lupin fans showed up at his house one day, and when he answered the door we all shouted, "Big squishy group hugs for Lupin!" and dove on top of him in a big mess of hugs!
:rotfl: I'm there!

*ahem* :whistle: Perhaps we should be getting back to actual discussion? :D

Lupin. What more can you say! I feel so bad for him. His life has been filled with drama. He was bitten by a wolf when he was a kid, he has be shunned most of his life by everyone but a few dear and loyal people. He had to deal with James' death 15 years ago, now he has to deal with the death of his other best freind Sirius. And on top of that "he who must not be named" is back in action. What more is JKR going to put this more man through? Lupin and Sirius were my favorite chars, now I am down to one. I am scared to become attached to another char! If anything happens to Lupin it is going to be war!!!

Bravo! :clap:

Yes, poor Moony does have a lot on his mind. Hey, he almost has as many tradgies in his life as Harry does! Werewolf, three best friends- two dead, one evil...not to mention the only one who can make his life better by creating the Wolfsbane potion is his childhood enemy! Poor guy. And if JKR kills him off....*gives menacing look to an innocent passerby.* He has to be my favorite character, so kind, so of course, his life is awful because of that.

I'm beginning to think JKR really is a ruthless killer! Poor Lupin's life is so miserable. =(

Lol, mind if I join you, Kosmic? I just saw her picture too! Oh, and I guess I should PM you about RKEBNMWOPT, since I'm kind of curious :)

Ooh, I just loved that scene in PoA! Remus' insult makes me laugh so hard, and he was so convincing when Snape called him into his office that even Harry was fooled! And then later when Harry asks if he knew Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot, and Prongs, he casually answers, "We've met." Moony is such a great guy!

And if JKR kills him off....*gives menacing look to an innocent passerby.*

*Hands Nurika a giant cod*

You should join the Cod Squad! We are prepared to attack J.K. Rowling with a bunch of smelly fish if she kills our dear Remus! Just put it in your siggy :D

Oh, can I join too? :)

Why are we accusing JK of being a ruthless killer of someone who isn't even dead yet. I think we should give her the benefit of the doubt until Lupin is actually in a life or death situation.

You mea until Lupin doesn't escape one, yes? He's already been in a couple and come out relatively unscathed (if unemployed). I think this is a double reaction. First, Sirius died rather abruptly and (for most of us) unexpectedly. Second, the instrument of Lupin's demise already appears to be in place, Pettigrew's silver hand. And we know Pettigrew won't have any qualms about using it. :grumble:

Yeah I was always curious about RKEBNMWOPT but oh well. Ummm......I'm not sure what to do but I want to join. So just tell me what to put in my siggy.

First, Sirius died rather abruptly and (for most of us) unexpectedly. Second, the instrument of Lupin's demise already appears to be in place, Pettigrew's silver hand. And we know Pettigrew won't have any qualms about using it. :grumble:
I agree. Pettigrew has his silver hand, why Did Voldemort HAVE to give him a silver hand? Gee, I wonder! Unless this is another one of JKR tricks to lead you to believe that Pettigrew is going to kill Lupin but it doesn't happen.

J.K. does have a tendency to lead us astray when it comes to predictions on future books. I do believe and hope that this is one of those times.

Hey, first post? :welcome:
Anyway, yup, this is certainly the place for lupin drooling :D

Stands in the corner and drools all over Lupin.
:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

You have to PM me or Guardian angel or someone who has it in their sig to find out heirofslytherin

LOL "We've met" Moony you are just too cool! *big hug*

In the book when Mrs. Weasly was crying about the boggart and people dying i think that Remus made it clear that the Order was prepaired for losses and since they know how people died the last time the Order was around I'm sure he's used to losing people that he is close to...

Yey, I'm in the Cod Squad! *grabs fish* Right, I'm READY FOR COMBAT!
Anyway.
:birthday: to JKR and Harry, btw.
Is anyone else really worried about how Lupin is going to be portrayed in the 3rd movie? He's such an engimatic, subtle character that I'm wondering if a kids movie is going to capture him properly. The pictures we've seen of him so far don't look too promising...
I thought the bit when he comforts Mrs Weasley is so sweet, it just shows how he's always there for people and knows how do deal with things. He's been through so much, and yet he has this aura of quiet authority and niceness. :angel:

Yey, I'm in the Cod Squad! *grabs fish* Right, I'm READY FOR COMBAT!
Anyway.
:birthday: to JKR and Harry, btw.
Is anyone else really worried about how Lupin is going to be portrayed in the 3rd movie? He's such an engimatic, subtle character that I'm wondering if a kids movie is going to capture him properly. The pictures we've seen of him so far don't look too promising...
I thought the bit when he comforts Mrs Weasley is so sweet, it just shows how he's always there for people and knows how do deal with things. He's been through so much, and yet he has this aura of quiet authority and niceness. :angel:

i had the same thought. i think he is going to be portrayed really poorly.
i am thinking the same about sirius. also loony4moony i agree the scottish are so cool. but haggis is not all that it is cracked up to be.

Eheheh ... hem hem ... what would remus say to his fans ...

I am so glad to have people like you all over the world root for me. I am really glad that I am no longer shunted aside like I used to before I met James. And It's really great to know that people from all over know who I am and I would love to meet all of you one day.

*Looks uneaily around?* Well worth a shot isn't it? lol I'd love to see Remus agaisnt Bellatrix AND Peter and finish them both ... that'd be great.

especially bellatrix.i dont think he is going to kill peter.childhood memories....(that evil traitor...)

Moony has so got to get Bellatrix! She is Evil! She must die! :rasp:

There you go Werewolf_eyes as promised in the Sirius thread, a nice David Thewliss piccie.

edited to add: Doh! forgot the picture

Cor Blimey Guv'na! I didn't realise Thewlis was THAT good looking... wow. :drool:

Yeah. He's well nice. Just most of the films he's been in he doesn't look that hot but he is really :drool: and in the muggle media forum people are saying he's not good looking enough to be Lupin

I agree. Pettigrew has his silver hand, why Did Voldemort HAVE to give him a silver hand? Gee, I wonder! Unless this is another one of JKR tricks to lead you to believe that Pettigrew is going to kill Lupin but it doesn't happen.

But is a werewolf vulnerable to silver colored objects or only pure silver? I think Pettigrew's hand is the former, I may be wrong.

FlarbyGarby, your signature's making me laugh out loud! It's great!

Oi, this is a Lupin thread, not a Thewlis thread! But, incidentally, is that a picture from Divorcing Jack? Great film. Darkly funny.

Thanks Cat! :D
Yeah so back onto Moony. Or Dreamy Reamy, as he has been dubbed by me. Do you think they'll ever find a cure for his werewolfness? I'd love for him to have a happy ending. A Werewolf cure is discovered, he takes it, he is cured, and becomes DADA teacher again, without the risk of biting the odd student? Aww that would be so lovely. But knowing JK that will never happen... :shrug:

Hehe! Dreamy Reamy! that's cool! Would love to see hime cured but it's unlikely I think

Thanks Cat! :D
Yeah so back onto Moony. Or Dreamy Reamy, as he has been dubbed by me. Do you think they'll ever find a cure for his werewolfness? I'd love for him to have a happy ending. A Werewolf cure is discovered, he takes it, he is cured, and becomes DADA teacher again, without the risk of biting the odd student? Aww that would be so lovely. But knowing JK that will never happen... :shrug:

that would be nice but...*sigh*. i really wish they could have kept on our luvely Moony as DADA teacher cuz he was just awesome. if i was at Hogwarts my favorite class would have been DADA when he was teacher.

Thanks Cat! :D
Yeah so back onto Moony. Or Dreamy Reamy, as he has been dubbed by me. Do you think they'll ever find a cure for his werewolfness? I'd love for him to have a happy ending. A Werewolf cure is discovered, he takes it, he is cured, and becomes DADA teacher again, without the risk of biting the odd student? Aww that would be so lovely. But knowing JK that will never happen...


No. I'm going to be snarled at by many people now, but I don't want him to be cured. He's Lupin the werewolf. That's partly what makes his character so interesting.

Besides, he'd be getting away without being taught a lesson if he merely gets cured. He needs to come to terms with who he is. He needs to accept that it doesn't matter whether students' parents are afraid of him. Then he needs to get his job back at Hogwarts :D

Being a werewolf could be a bonus if he can get used to it. Well, if he can get used to it AND can be supplied with the Wolffsbane Potion every time.

No. I'm going to be snarled at by many people now, but I don't want him to be cured. He's Lupin the werewolf. That's partly what makes his character so interesting.

Besides, he'd be getting away without being taught a lesson if he merely gets cured. He needs to come to terms with who he is. He needs to accept that it doesn't matter whether students' parents are afraid of him. Then he needs to get his job back at Hogwarts :D

Being a werewolf could be a bonus if he can get used to it. Well, if he can get used to it AND can be supplied with the Wolffsbane Potion every time.


you've got good points. i didn't think of that. But i agree he does needs to get back his job at Hogwarts!

No. I'm going to be snarled at by many people now, but I don't want him to be cured. He's Lupin the werewolf. That's partly what makes his character so interesting.

Besides, he'd be getting away without being taught a lesson if he merely gets cured. He needs to come to terms with who he is. He needs to accept that it doesn't matter whether students' parents are afraid of him. Then he needs to get his job back at Hogwarts :D

Being a werewolf could be a bonus if he can get used to it. Well, if he can get used to it AND can be supplied with the Wolffsbane Potion every time.

Actually, that's a really good point. [You shouldn't be *snarled* at for it]
He's always been ashamed of who is he, and I felt sorry for him becuase of that, that's why I wanted him to be cured. But, you're absolutely right.
Remus relies too much on what other people think of him, and because he's a werewolf it's not usually good. He does need to come to terms with who he is.
But, saying that, I think people in the Wizarding community need to realise that there is no such thing as a stereotypical werewolf, and that the wolf doesn't controll the man(/woman).

But is a werewolf vulnerable to silver colored objects or only pure silver? I think Pettigrew's hand is the former, I may be wrong.
Honestly, I am not to sure. I just was wondering why JKR had to make Peter's hand silver, not any other color. It seems live his hand is silver for a reason.

I think the werewolves are vulnerable to any kind of silver, and if I'm not mistaken Wormtail's hand is made of pure silver. I feared the death of Lupin in OotP, thankfully it didn't happen, but who knows what will happen in the next books. Maybe the hand will hurt him badly but not exactly kill him... let's hope so.

Good point Cat! but there should be something done so the wizarding community accepts werewolfs for what they are. Maybe Moony could do a big marketing campaign or something :D
Equal rights for werewolfs or something.
Either that or he should say stuff you I'm going back to Hogwarts as the DADA professor and if you don't like it tough!

Either that or he should say stuff you I'm going back to Hogwarts as the DADA professor and if you don't like it tough!

And we'd be behind him all the way! (not to mention Dumbledore) :agree: He's been the best DADA teacher yet and you'd think the parents would realise he didn't hurt anybody while he was teacher. *sigh* poor Moony. it is a bother to worry about what people think all the time.

:rotfl: FlarbyGarby, I was wondering when you would finish that siggy, and it looks great!

Remus relies too much on what other people think of him, and because he's a werewolf it's not usually good. He does need to come to terms with who he is.

That is an excellent point. Personally, I believe that if Remus finally accepts the fact that because of what he is, not everyone he meets will fully trust him, he will find himself less desperate for others to like him. Even muggles and normal wizards have trouble with this concept. Yet if one comes to terms with who they are, no matter what the circumstances, he or she will not have to worry about other people's opinions because they no longer need approval from anyone other than themselves. The irony of this situation is that once a person achieves this state of self-acceptance, others will admire their confidence and attitude, thereby becoming more attracted to that person. To put it briefly, love yourself, and others are likely to follow.

To put it briefly, love yourself, and others are likely to follow.

That's beautiful.

Before Sirius died I thought that Lupin was a goner, unfortunately. Now he's probably safe... killing off one of Harry's last links to his parents? That borders on inhumanity. Wormtail's hand does strike a cord though... I guess we'll see eventually .

He should also remember that for the seven years he was at Hogwarts he never bit anyone (well i assume he didn't) so there's no more risk now if he were to go back as DADA professor as there was then. In fact there should be less cuz of the wolfsbane potion and no Sirius to lure Snape to him

Everyone chant "Moony for DADA! Moony for DADA!"

Moony for DADA! Moony for DADA!
lol

:clap: to you all - great posts everyone^-^

love dreamy reamy flarby^-^

I don't think lupin will get a cure- his werewolfiness distinguishes him from everyone else...make shim special...and I agree he needs to learn to love himself for who he is.

It'd be great if he made a come back at hogwarts^-^ aww reamy.... :love:

lovely david thelwis piccie btw...he looks ncie enough to be remus in that picture at least, dont care much for the poa pic we've got of him so far tho...

great work on the sig too flarby!

In the book when Mrs. Weasly was crying about the boggart and people dying i think that Remus made it clear that the Order was prepaired for losses and since they know how people died the last time the Order was around I'm sure he's used to losing people that he is close to...
I don't think one can ever get used to losing a loved one. Each time it's as fresh and horrible as the last. You simply develop ways to cope and grieve, which is still a painful process and is still a kind of suffering.

However, I think it's true that the members of the Order are prepared for death, so they can skip over the shock and anger phase and go straight to the sadness. :(

Is anyone else really worried about how Lupin is going to be portrayed in the 3rd movie? The pictures we've seen of him so far don't look too promising...
Our first glimpse of David Thewlis as Lupin (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/images/2003/07/shack.jpg) (Thanks to TLC and Newsweek). I agree that it does not look promising. :( The hair and the clothes are nothing like they should be IMO. The hair should longer and grayer, the clothes should be shabbier. I also don't like the way he seems to be cowering in a corner. And the ugly expression on his face?! That's not the demeanor of our Lupin!! :no:

Granted, this is not a very good picture of him as he is in the background, so I'm going to wait until more pictures come out before I really start to worry. I am generally excited about the direction PoA is taking. :)

Hi everyone -- I'm new to the Lupin thread, and I haven't been able to go through all 11 pages yet, but I wanted to ask...
Why isn't Lupin in the picture Moody shows Harry? The one of the Order? All of the other Marauders are there. Did I just miss his name? (I don't have my book, so I can't check on this).
If I'm right, and he isn't pictured, do you think it could mean something?
Just a thought....

Oh, and I must say that (even though this is way back on like, page 2) the theory about Lupin being James is full of huge, gaping holes. It isn't true, in my opinion.

Edit: About the sliver thing...in legend, werewolves were only able to be killed by bullets made of pure silver. I don't think that, originally, a werewolf would snuff it after eating a bit of silver or something. But that doesn't mean that JKR doesn't have something in store for that hand of Wormtail's. :scared:

I think he was mentioned in the picture... or maybe I'm paranoic. Can anyone confirm that?

And you shouldn't judge Thewlis for just that picture. But I'm not going to discuss this, not in this forum...

Our first glimpse of David Thewlis as Lupin (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/images/2003/07/shack.jpg) (Thanks to TLC and Newsweek). I agree that it does not look promising. :( The hair and the clothes are nothing like they should be IMO. The hair should longer and grayer, the clothes should be shabbier. I also don't like the way he seems to be cowering in a corner. And the ugly expression on his face?! That's not the demeanor of our Lupin!! :no:

Granted, this is not a very good picture of him as he is in the background, so I'm going to wait until more pictures come out before I really start to worry. I am generally excited about the direction PoA is taking. :)

ditto-ing that. i also thought Lupin's hair should be lighter...he has light brown hair... :no: that picture did not look good at all...he looks mroe like my idea of wormtial cowering in front of voldemort...but as you say its only one picture,and a blurry one at that, so there is still hope.
I think there is a huge possibility that lupin's character will be messed up in poa, such subtly is difficult to display in film, I just hope its not too bad.

Welcome :welcome: mad I moody^-^

and to answer your question...Lupin was mentioned - just after the longbottoms^-^

I think there is a huge possibility that lupin's character will be messed up in poa, such subtly is difficult to display in film, I just hope its not too bad.

Eh, I don't plan on seeing it anyway...

That's beautiful.

Aww, thanks Flarby! :blush:

*Joins chant*
Moony for DADA! Moony for DADA!

:clap: to you all - great posts everyone^-^

love dreamy reamy flarby^-^

I don't think lupin will get a cure- his werewolfiness distinguishes him from everyone else...make shim special...and I agree he needs to learn to love himself for who he is.

It'd be great if he made a come back at hogwarts^-^ aww reamy.... :love:

lovely david thelwis piccie btw...he looks ncie enough to be remus in that picture at least, dont care much for the poa pic we've got of him so far tho...

great work on the sig too flarby!
Yeah, it would be great if he came back. Fat chance of that happening though, unfortunatly. Oh, Darn! I was just looking fot the sigh smily... grrrr... it's gone. :rasp:

Moony for dada? You want him to be your sugar daddy?... *looks confused*... *narrows eyes* ... What?
OH! Defense Against the Dark Arts... :blush: Me and my dirty mind

I'm really worried about seeing the movie because I have this fantastic idea of Lupin's appearance and personality in my head, and I don't want it to be mixed up with the way he is portrayed in the film.

and to answer your question...Lupin was mentioned - just after the longbottoms^-^

Yep, on page 174 of the US version (Chapter 9, anyway) Moody says, "And there's Lupin, obviously." I guess that is pretty easy to miss, though, because it's just four words!

"And there's Lupin, obviously."
I wonder why it's "obviously" for Lupin, and not for Sirius, or Harry's own parents, or Mad Eye himself (he sticks out a bit hehe)? Maybe he looks exactly the same as he does now? I don't know, maybe it's not important, but it made me wonder...

In OOTP it was fairly clear that he was handling silver goblets without harm. Remember, fiction authors don't have to go along with every bit of the myths/films.

I hope this thread doesn't turn into another hotbed of bizarre sex fantasies. For some reason I screw up inside when people try to make Lupin out as a sex god. He looks worn out, poor guy! And part of the point of his character is that he's nothing like Lockhart - I didn't notice anyone outlining Lupin's lessons in little hearts! But then I find sex gods a bit scary, myself. I prefer the sweet and cuddly type, which is what I think Lupin is.

Please read my story "Ill Met By Moonlight" in the Library! It's all about Lupin's childhood!

I hope this thread doesn't turn into another hotbed of bizarre sex fantasies. For some reason I screw up inside when people try to make Lupin out as a sex god.
I agree, I don't see him that way and I wouldn't want this be a sex fantasy thing either. I know this is going to sound weird (after all, Lupin is not real, and fantasies are harmless), but I would almost see it as a rape of his character, violating something innocent and good with selfish projections of one's own desires and fantasies. It's a pretty extreme comparison, but I have a similar reaction to both.

So no Lupin rape please. :angel:

Poor Remus - he's had such a rotten life - PLEASE JK, give the guy a break!

Ah, aeterna kai...thanks! I must have just glossed right over it, since Moody makes such a big deal out of the Longbottoms. Oh, well...I'm glad he's there. I didn't want to think about what it might mean if he wasn't!

Naughty Flarby! Anyhoo, Reamy wouldn't be that much older than I am *kosmic feels her age* my bestfriends boyfriend is about the age the Marauders would be Eeeek! that's scary

Dreamy Reamy?! That's a cool nickname! Ah...Dreamy Reamy... *sighs*

Yes, I would really like to see our Dreamy Reamy improve as a character (not that he isn't already a wonderful one!). He needs to realize the only person who is going to make him a better person is himself. He relys on what other people say about him, and his self-esteem isn't the greatest because of that. He needs to stand up for himself and realize that only one person's opinion matters- his own. Once he accepts himself for who he is, then the next step begins.

If he can stand up for himself, he should do it for others as well. Speak up, Lupin! Make a werewolf campaign or something. Make a difference by helping people realize that werewolves aren't all bad! Stop yhe stereotypes and then not only will he feel good inside, but other people will respect for what he is doing, and that will make him feel really good!

*still sighing over Dreamy Reamy* =P

I think Reamy's only flaw is that he doesn't voice his opinions. He won't speak out about being a werewolf and he wouldn't say anything to James and Sirius when he didn't agree with their pranks.

Speak your mind Moony we want to hear what you've got to say! :D

Dreamy Reamy?! That's a cool nickname! Ah...Dreamy Reamy...

Ahh... another person to put on my 'Devoted Fan' list.

What do you think Reamy's thoughts would be on the ever rising and falling of the stock market? The current situation with global warming? And the price of a pint of milk? [- which I think is alarming. 45p at my local store! Outrageous!] Also his thoughts on the meaning of life would be good... Very enlightening to hear what he has to say, I must convey.

I'm sure he would be outraged at paying 45p for a pint of milk! :D What is it unicorn milk?

Unicorn's Milk? At a mere 45p? Where have you been shopping?
Errm... I seem to be drifting off topic...
*grabs oars and starts paddling back on topic*
Dreamy Reamy... What a nice bloke... Err yes.

Sorry been down knockturn alley buying that fake unicorn milk again :D
And the conversation on here actually got semi sensible for couple of posts or so (well relative to most of the others)

Back in a minute I need coffee!

Poor Remus - he's had such a rotten life - PLEASE JK, give the guy a break!

i hope so to but i have a bad feeling about him. i dont think hes evil or anything but its not going to get any easier for him. hes had a hard life and i think it will improve. :upset:

on the other hand he could be the exception, and get through the second war and the seventh book and his life will change dramaticly for the better. i say this because it is likely its going to get worse for a lot of the characters. i believe harry will die in the end, along with DD and a weasly. these losses will efect everybody's life for the worse.

He looks worn out, poor guy! And part of the point of his character is that he's nothing like Lockhart - I didn't notice anyone outlining Lupin's lessons in little hearts! But then I find sex gods a bit scary, myself. I prefer the sweet and cuddly type, which is what I think Lupin is.


Which is precicsely the reason I find him attractive. :love:

truth betold i dont think lupin will become as big as a figure as Sirius was. this because Sirius was his god father and Lupin wasnt that much in Harry's life. They probably will become closer but nothing compared to the friendship between sirius and harry. Also sirius's death i dont think will wash him away forever, it isnt the last of him thats for sure. Sirius is too big of a character to be swept away from the books forever. And the new director of harry potter and the PoA looks like hes doin a great job. but is the wardrobe a little too laid back?

truth betold i dont think lupin will become as big as a figure as Sirius was. this because Sirius was his god father and Lupin wasnt that much in Harry's life. They probably will become closer but nothing compared to the friendship between sirius and harry. Also sirius's death i dont think will wash him away forever, it isnt the last of him thats for sure. Sirius is too big of a character to be swept away from the books forever. And the new director of harry potter and the PoA looks like hes doin a great job. but is the wardrobe a little too laid back?

Interesting idea there. I don't believe I've heard it before. But your treading on dangerous waters there. After all, Lupin is the last of the Marauder's on the good side. The last person whom really knew james well in his inner circle. That has to become important at one point.

Secondly, you may have dismissed the importance of what just happened....Sirius' death. Lupin's friend, and Harry's benefactor. Somebody has to comfort Harry, and it is my highest hope and suspition that it will be Lupin. He is a person whom knew Sirius well, loved him, and he also has a knack for getting peopel to understand things better in an all-compassing comforting way. Harry is going to need lupin.

Thirdly, he's a werewolf. I know this sounds horribly obvious but it really is. Things is, we really haven't seen much of this other side of him besides the fiasco at the end of the third book. The multitude of theories of Peter's silver hand and the Werewolve's vulnerability too it, though maybe not true, may come to play.

In the end, I'd say that Lupin is going to become more of a factor then ever. He holds some of the qualities that are going to become invaluable to Harry, and the order as well. He has a personality that cannot be disdained or brushed aside, he is the last of the good maruader's and is bound to play a vital role in these series.

By the way, :welcome: to the boards Tee Time! (little late I know, but I've never replied to you before.)

And we can't underestimate the fact that JKR:birthday: says she loves Lupin and he is her favorite character beyond the trio.
I would hope to see the bond between Harry and Lupin grow stronger. It won't be like the relationship Harry had with Sirius, because Lupin is a very different man. He's deeper, more soulful and for all he's a werewolf, exudes less animal magnetism. A most remarkable wizard.

In the end, I'd say that Lupin is going to become more of a factor then ever. He holds some of the qualities that are going to become invaluable to Harry, and the order as well. He has a personality that cannot be disdained or brushed aside, he is the last of the good maruader's and is bound to play a vital role in these series.


Oh, I hope so... more Remus!

Ahhh. Moony is my favorite character!!

I felt really bad, because in the third book, while he was explaining everything the the Shrieking Shack, he said that when he went to Hogwarts, he "finally had friends" and now, they're like gone.

I just really hope that nothing else really bad happens to him!! Especially if he dies or something... unless it's like he's trying to save Harry, because then he'll be a SUPERDUPERHERO saving the world! Okay, I'm getting off track here... but still. He doesn't even have human rights, because remember, stinky Umbridge hates half-breeds, so she cut off all of the werewolves rights and stuff!!!

An interesting thought - Remus has been helping not just Harry , but Neville also. Think about book three and Neville with the boggart; then in book five - at the MOM - he addressed himself to Neville when asking about 'the others' - does Remus know about the prophesy, and is trying to look out for Neville as well as Harry???

Ahh... another person to put on my 'Devoted Fan' list.

What do you think Reamy's thoughts would be on the ever rising and falling of the stock market? The current situation with global warming? And the price of a pint of milk? [- which I think is alarming. 45p at my local store! Outrageous!] Also his thoughts on the meaning of life would be good... Very enlightening to hear what he has to say, I must convey.

You bet I'm a devoted fan! *grins* See, I've even got it in my profile! *points*

I would just like to hear Dreamy Reamy's thoughts on everything, as he is a very interesting person.



truth betold i dont think lupin will become as big as a figure as Sirius was. this because Sirius was his god father and Lupin wasnt that much in Harry's life. They probably will become closer but nothing compared to the friendship between sirius and harry. Also sirius's death i dont think will wash him away forever, it isnt the last of him thats for sure. Sirius is too big of a character to be swept away from the books forever. And the new director of harry potter and the PoA looks like hes doin a great job. but is the wardrobe a little too laid back?


I do agree with you on a few points. Sirius isn't gone forever, and it won't wash away Harry forever. He will come back, probably as a portrait, through the veil, hey, just look at plenty of theory threads around you to forulate your favorite theory on how he'll return.

However, Harry isn't ever going to see Sirius alive again, because he is dead. He may see him in other forms, but not in the same way as he did before, therefore, things will be different.

Also, I agree that Harry will never have the same relationship with Lupin as he did with Sirius. Sirius was his legal Godfather, and his dad's best friend. Although Lupin is a very kind person, a fatherly figure, and one of James's friends, it's a different situation. They aren't the same people, and they won't ever the same relationship.

However, even with Harry possibly (and very likely) communicating with Sirius, he'll still want some comfort while he's greiving over his death. Who better to turn to than someone who loved Sirius very much like he did, and is greiving over his death as well. They will lean on each other while coping through his death before they are able to 'talk' to him and possibly after.

Harry's fifth year has proved that, well, he can get angry. Stress, teenage anger, Cedric's death, no one believing his story, and Voldemort's emotions are tumbling through his body. Although some of it has lifted, an equal, if not greater amount has settled into him. I really don't want to see Harry even angrier and more upset than he has been in the past year, and honestly, I don't think Harry wants to see it either. Lupin has proved in many small and hidden instances in the book that he is great as comforting people, such as calming dowm Molly when she tackled the boggart, and talking to the werewolf at St. Mungos. He will be good for Harry, and perhaps along with that and maturing, his anger will start to evaporate. Also, what I'm hoping for is not only Lupin good for Harry, but Harry will be good for Lupin. Harry stands up for what he believes in. When no one belived him about Voldemort returning, he helped do something about it! Even though it was Hermione's idea, he could have easily said no and not done the Quibbler interview at all. I'm hoping Harry will show Lupin how to be confident and stand up for what is right. I'm pretty sure Cat said she didn't want to see Lupin getting cured as a werewolf. I agree- I'd much rather see him be proud and self-confident as a werewolf than have low self-esteem and not be one.

*goes back into Dream Reamy mode* =P

Also, Tee Time, I do agree with you on the director comment. I think he's doing great, but I really hope those aren't their movie costumes. Their Hogwarts uniforms aren't modern teen clothes! Argh!

NoOooOoo! This will not become a Snape thread. *stamps on idea of Remus ever being considered more than a nice, wholesome fellow*


I just thought that I'd say, what's wrong with finding Remus sexy? He's certainly not Snape(Ahhh I love Snape, he's sexy, but in a musterious way!). No Remus is just quiet, reserved, bookish, smart, and I dunno he just has something about him.! lol But I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I find him very sexy.! haha

Actually I wish Remus would find a girl, but if you can pass on your werewolfiness(okay not a word.! hehe), then well I wouldn't want him getting married and having kids... But I think Remus definetely could love. He loves people and people liking him. So I think if Remus does get a GF it could end up in tragedy... :( Since JKR said that was his fault... About him liking people like him. But still he really deserves someone to love and hold him. Even if he is a werewolf!!! Werewolf's need love too!!! :D

So that's my bit.! :p

OK going back to Lupin/Harry. I don't think Harry will ever be as close to anyone as he was to Sirius as Sirius was the first person Harry ever loved as family. But I think he and Lupin will get closer. I think Lupin has kind of been holding back in caring for Harry. Initially in POA I think this was because he didn't want to have to go through everything about Sirius with him (before they knew he was innocent) and then he wasn't around in GOF (where did he go?). In OoTP I got the impression he was itching to get close to him but held back partly cuz he wanted to allow Harry and Sirius to bond and partly cuz Moony seems to find it hard to express his emotions. When The advanced guard went to get Harry from the Dursleys I was almost screaming out "For Merlins sake Moony just give Harry a great big hug"

Let's think of some questions about Lupin that we want answers to by the end of the series. Such as:

What is he doing for the Order? (Anyone like to speculate?)
How is he really feeling right now?
What did he do during the twelve years after the Potters' death?
How did his parents react when they couldn't cure him? I hope they were kind, like in my story.
One question I'd love to ask him if I met him: would he wish lycanthropy on anyone? Umbridge, Wormtail, Voldemort or Bellatrix perhaps? Or does he think it's too terrible for anyone to deserve it?

What is he doing for the Order? (Anyone like to speculate?)
How is he really feeling right now?
What did he do during the twelve years after the Potters' death?
How did his parents react when they couldn't cure him? I hope they were kind, like in my story.
One question I'd love to ask him if I met him: would he wish lycanthropy on anyone? Umbridge, Wormtail, Voldemort or Bellatrix perhaps? Or does he think it's too terrible for anyone to deserve it?

It's hard to say what he's doing for the Order we don't know much about what any of them are doing really, except for they were guarding the prophecy. And I guess the Aurors are kind of obvious what they're doing.
He's probably feeling pretty bad now. Moony doesn't seem to good at showing his emotions though so he'll be bottling it all up inside. Probably wondering if he's gonna be next
I don't think he would want to inflict it on any one he's too nice. At a push Wormtail but I don't think he would

Good questions
I'd love to ask him how he feels about Harry. Does he care for him as much as Sirius obviously did
ANd where did he go to after he resigned from Hogwarts until we see him again in OoTP

What is he doing for the Order? (Anyone like to speculate?)
Apart from being part of the Advanced Guard, he is probably doing something to help gain the trust of other creatures. He, Bill, and Mr. Weasley were having a discussion about goblins in chapter five, and being a werewolf, it would give him somewhat of an advantage because he understands what it's like to not be given the same freedoms and respect as normal wizards.

How is he really feeling right now?
Probably really awful, though he is determined not to show it.

What did he do during the twelve years after the Potters' death?
That's a good question. I assume that he just tried to get on with his life, since he lost three of his dearest friends in a single night.

How did his parents react when they couldn't cure him?
I bet they were devestated, just as any parent would be when they are told their child has an incurable disease. I'm sure they were incredibly kind to him, though. Afterall, they are Remus's parents, and where would he have gotten his sweet, caring personality from?

One question I'd love to ask him if I met him: would he wish lycanthropy on anyone? Umbridge, Wormtail, Voldemort or Bellatrix perhaps? Or does he think it's too terrible for anyone to deserve it? I'm pretty sure Remus would not wish lycanthropy on anyone, since he is far too kind and knows the true horror of being a werewolf. But I wouldn't be surprised if he did, since he was willing to kill Peter in PoA.

I'd love to ask him how he feels about Harry. Does he care for him as much as Sirius obviously did?
I bet he cares for Harry every bit as much as Sirius did, since he is James's son, but he shows his love in a different way. From what we saw of his relationship with Harry in PoA, he really seemed to want to help Harry in any way he could, which shows that he cares deeply about him.

Where did he go to after he resigned from Hogwarts until we see him again in OoTP?
I'd love for J.K. Rowling to answer this question in future books. Since Dumbledore told Sirius to "lie low at Lupin's for a while," I'd assume he went to his house, but I wonder what else he was up to.

Good thoughts Kosmic. I really think he is bottling up his emotions. They are going to come out sometime in the next 2 books, can't wait to see what happens.

I have a question to ask him: Does he know why Siruis thought he was spy. We find out in POA that Sirius thought Remus was the spy, why?? And did James think that to. That would definitly be a question I would ask Lupin.

I assumed they thought he might be the spy because they knew it was someone close to the Potters. They didn't think it would be Wormtail and James trusted Sirius.
Also it could be interpreted that it wasn't that they actually thought Moony was the spy but suspected everyone, so told no one. The only people who knew who was the secret keeper was James, Lily, Sirius and Peter. They didn't even tell Dumbledore

Maybe Moony's going to continue bottling up his emotions and then one day it'll all expload and he'll go on a rampage and get Wormtail, Bellatrix and Voldie (plus a few more death eaters and any one else who's pee'd him off) :D

spy for who? im lost! somebody get my head straight!

I assumed they thought Dreamy Reamy was the spy because he's a werewolf. - That sounds really bad, especially for James and Sirius.
Maybe it was just process of elimination... no one thought it was Pete because well, they thought he was a bit thick. James would have never thought that of Sirius... and Remus was a clever bloke, who happened to be a werewolf, something which hardly anyone trusts. But, that's with me assuming that Lily had no friends after she left Hogwarts, apart from James'.
I suppose during those 12 years he was trying to find work. Which when he finally does, as soon as he settles down, they find out what he is and give him the sack.

Spy for Voldemort. Lily and James knew someone was informing Voldemort on their actions ie Wormtail

I've been rereading OotP. I'm at the part where Harry leaves Grimmauld Place for Hogwarts after Christmas (:sad: poor Sirius, so many signs...)

Anyway, the biggest role Lupin has in this book is as comforter. He comforts Mrs. Weasley several times, Harry, the werewolf at Mungo's (I'm assuming, unless he was recruiting :evil:, but I'm sure he did some comforting as well). My point is, JKR has been subtly defining him this way. He gives good advice and is always there if you need him. Whether Harry will take advantage of this or not, I'm not sure of because...

I've realized on my second reading Lupin isn't around nearly as much as I thought he was. Even when most of the other Order members are there, sometimes he is not. For instance, when Arthur is attacked by Nagini, we know where everyone is but Lupin. The Weasleys, Harry, Tonks, and Moody all go to visit him at Mungo's. Dumbledore is dealing with the Ministry. Snape and McGonagall are at Hogwarts. Where's Lupin? He's the only major Order member unaccounted for. What is he doing?

In many of the scenes where he is present, he's in the background. He simply observes. Why even have him there? And why have him not there at such an event as an Order member nearly dying? It just seems odd to me. It also makes me even more curious about what his job is in the Order.

I have no idea what I'm getting at. :D :tu: Ramblin' Mel strikes again! YEEEHAW!

Anyway :whistle:

One question I'd love to ask him if I met him: would he wish lycanthropy on anyone? Umbridge, Wormtail, Voldemort or Bellatrix perhaps? Or does he think it's too terrible for anyone to deserve it?
I don't think he would wish it on anyone, but I don't think it's because he thinks its so terrible. Obviously, it's an awful thing, but it's not the worst thing that can happen to someone. I think he would want to do much worse things to Bellatrix and Wormtail. After all, there is wolfsbane potion, and according to Mr. Weasley, Lupin finds his condition "quite easy to manage." I think the circumstances of Lupin's werewolfism (being bitten so young before you have a chance to live a normal life, when there isn't any way to control it yet) and the kind of person he is (craves acceptance) makes it worse for him. I think Lupin has a lot of guilt, but it hasn't made him feel bitter it's made him feel worthless and alone. It would take a certain bitterness to wish lycanthropy on someone. Also, I think he is ultimately too kind and forgiving to really sink to that level. Although he did almost kill Wormtail in PoA... http://www.cosforums.com/images/smilies/reyebrow.gif

Questions I have
Where was he during GoF?
Where does he live?
Why did the other Marauders think he was a traitor/spy at one point?
How did he feel about the "joke" Sirius played on Snape?
What would he see in his Pensieve?
What would he see in the Mirror of Erised?
How much does he know about the Veil, and why does he know so much about it? It is, after all, in the Dept. of *Mysteries*
Has he ever killed someone? Has he ever turned anyone into a werewolf?
Has he ever been with a woman? hehe
What kinds of things did he do on his adventures with the Marauders as animagi?

I doubt many of these will ever be answered. :sigh:

ok thanx!!!!!! i understand!
and i think that lupin WILL become a a good freind to harry but im sure that sirius will never leave i hope he comes back some how!

What would he see in the Mirror of Erised?

OooOoooOOOooh! That's a great question.

Has he ever been with a woman? hehe

Well you never know, as Harry gets older, he'll need someone to tell him about 'the birds and the bees'. Maybe that's something that will come up. Lol.

What's kinds of things did he do on his adventures with the Marauders as animagi?

I'd love to know that too... :sigh:

It also makes me even more curious about what his job is in the Order.

Yeah... Why was he away for weeks at a time? *ponders* If we don't find out in book six I think I'll cry tears of anger.

Wasn't he supposed to be living at Grimmauld for part of OoTP? Or is that in my head again? But he was there less than the others? Hmmm! The wolf is up to something *thinks* well dang if I know

Being a werewolf probably wouldn't be as bad for Wormtail and Bellatrix. Moony's hardest bit of it is not being accepted and Wormtail and Bellatrix are hardly going to get acepted back into society anyway are they.
I do think if Moony had the chance to kill either one of them he would

in the end of GOF, DD told Sirius to go to Lupin's and stay with him for a while. That means that Lupin has his own place, right? Well, if he wasn't at Sirius' for a long while, (cause sirius said he was alone, with no company but kreacher) then that means that lupin was at home. OR he was doin some job, wouldn't you wanna know what..

I always thought that when Lupin wasn't at Grimmauld Place hw was at his own house. I can't really think of any mission for Lupin to do other then protect Harry. Lupin's absence from Grimmauld Place could be that he didn't want people to wonder why he wasn't at his house for long periods of time. Even the Weasleys went back to their place for some time. It cold be that they didn't want others to talk since the MoM was already on Dumbledore's back.

1. What is he doing for the Order (Anyone like to speculate?)....? ----- You know I've been wondering about this myself... What is he doing? Course we never really know what anyone in the Order is doing except for watch the Prophecy....
But maybe he's recruiting people who are outcast.! lol hehe J/K But I really have no idea there.!

2. How is he really feeling right now? I think he's probrably very sad and lost. He lost his last really close friend(Sirius). I mean it wasn't only a loss to Harry. Sure he has some other friends, but not like Sirius. And I think he may try to get closer to Harry, he probrably feels he needs to comfort Harry. But seeing Lupin bottles stuff up its not likely he's gonna go right up to him and do it. He'll prolly just stand around hoping he'll come to him for advice and such... Reamind me of someone else(ME!).... :(

3. What did he do during the twelve years after the Potters' death? ----- Gosh, like someone else said, probrably coping with the loss of his friends and trying to get jobs. But I have a feeling he was up to more than that. Maybe we'll find out what? Hmmm

4. How did his parents react when they couldn't cure him? I hope they were kind, like in my story. ---- I think they were nice, he is a very nice, introverted, but very nice.! So I think his parents supported him. They probrably were always looking for things to help his condition. I wonder what they did for a living? Prolly doesn't matter, but still.

5. One question I'd love to ask him if I met him: would he wish lycanthropy on anyone? Umbridge, Wormtail, Voldemort or Bellatrix perhaps? Or does he think it's too terrible for anyone to deserve it? ---- I don't think he'd wish it on anyone(Though no doubt ALL of those people named deserve it.). He just doesn't seem like he'd want other people to be hurt like he has. He likes people.

What would he see in the Mirror of Erised? I think maybe he'd see a family of his own, and lot's of friends - also James&Lily&Sirius back in the flesh.

6. Has he ever been with a woman? hehe ---- I'm not sure, maybe he was in the 12yrs unaccounted for? But she left him because she found out about his conditon, or he left her because he was afraid he may accidently hurt her... Or what if he did hurt her?

7.What's kinds of things did he do on his adventures with the Marauders as animagi? ---- I bet they went prowling in the forbidden forest.! hehe Maybe they mingled with other creatures? Or Wondered around Hogesmeade at night..... Maybe they even snuck into stores... lol

Lupin is definetely mysterious... How much do we really know about him? Hardly anything.! I think in the coming books we'v alot to learn about him.! As someone said, his main role in OotP seemed to be that of comforter. So obviously he cares about people. I hope Harry will get closer to him, really they need eachother. They both lost someone dear to them. I think though Lupid loves people he may be scared to get close to them... Hmmm

I have a question to ask him: Does he know why Siruis thought he was spy. We find out in POA that Sirius thought Remus was the spy, why?? And did James think that to. That would definitly be a question I would ask Lupin.

I always thought it was very appropriate that even Remus's closest friends thought he was the spy. It sort of reflects the tumultuous, illogical fear of that time. As for why they thought he was the spy, I assume that Remus couldn't have been having the easiest time, post Hogwarts, trying to find a job, etc. Maybe James and Sirius thought that the resulting social resentment plus his intrinsic mysteriousness would make him more vulnerable to Voldermort's propaganda.

I think it was more they didn't know who it was but James trusted Sirius and who would have thought it was Wormtail?
Maybe they just didn't trust anyone. Maybe it wasn't exactly that they thought it was Moony but didn't tell any one who the secret keeper was

I think all the marauders will be dead by the end of the series and that it will be this that will drive himself to sacrifice himself to kill voldemort. sorry that was a bit rash!

*Hands Nurika a giant cod*

You should join the Cod Squad! We are prepared to attack J.K. Rowling with a bunch of smelly fish if she kills our dear Remus! Just put it in your siggy :D

Okay I did! =)

What's Remus doing for the Order? Probably not recruiting people, as he said it himself, a werewolf isn't a popular dinner guest (not even a sweet one like him! *sniffs*). Perhaps he's finding out information about Voldemort? Recruiting werewolves? Your guess is as good as mine...

Yes, I am also wondering how Reamy coped with James's and Lily's death all those years ago. Only two years ago did he find out that Sirius was good and Wormtail was alive, so what did he do for the other twelve years? Probably felt miserable...