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HP_Maniac July 27th, 2007, 1:44 am I had a quick question about the Blood charm that DD placed on Harry when he went to the Dursleys. We know from HBP that that charm was no longer valid when Harry turned 17. I am assuming that the protection that Lilly gave to Harry by her sacrifice, did not also end at 17? Which is why LV taking his blood made Harry able to live again through the AK curse?
Voldemorts8thHorcrux July 27th, 2007, 2:17 am Before taking his blood, harry would be on his own once the blood charm finally wore off. After it, it kind of tied Harry to life. I never thought much about taking the blood, but the way it's working, it seemed like whoever attacks first dies, since both had a piece of the other inside
padfootandme July 29th, 2007, 5:49 am And Voldemort spent years planning Harry's death, so he naturally attacked first..... which led to his downfall :)
Alektra July 29th, 2007, 6:58 am Maniac, you are correct. It was the charm placed by dumbledore over Privet Drive which expired at 17, and that is separate from Lilys protection. In OOTP Dumbledore tells Harry that that protection is in his veins "to this day", so no, it never went away.
I think it fair to say that it changed when voldemort took it - wasnt effective in the same way it had been - but it was still there.
Oopie August 5th, 2007, 2:14 am Was Voldemort only able to kill his soul in Harry through the curse? I remember Dumbledore saying he was free now. What is the reason for that though? Is it because Harry's blood kept him alive in Voldemort and when Voldemort's curse was rebounded none of his soul was still in Harry?
Jebusrocks August 5th, 2007, 2:19 am I don't think Harry survived the AK curse because of Lily's protection, but because (I heard this somewhere) the Elder Wand decided to kill Voldy, not Harry.
SquiggyDralion August 17th, 2007, 9:55 am Harry's blood in Voldemort acted as a sort of anchor for Harry, tying him to life. I think the reason it didn't act the other way around--for Voldemort--is because... how do I explain this so it makes sense...? The blood protected Harry because it was his blood, but it didn't protect Voldemort because he was just borrowing it. His attachment to life was fragile and not really his own, so it was easily blown away. Does that work?
Lydia_xo August 17th, 2007, 3:56 pm To attempt to answer your question, Oopie, I think that Harry had a choice whether he wanted the curse to kill a part of Voldemort's soul or his own. If Harry wanted to die, he could have "caught the next train" when he was with Dumbledore at King's Cross.
That's just my interpretation, though. It could be wrong.
Fairygdmther August 17th, 2007, 4:50 pm That Lily died for Harry is the 'love' protection, and doesn't go away. DD placed a 'blood charm' on baby Harry, which was 'sealed' by Petunia when she agreed to raise Harry. This continuance of blood relatives raising him, (and enforced by DD when Petunia wanted out) is the 'blood charm' and lasted until Harry turned 17 or until he no longer lived with them, whichever came first. (read 'blood charm' in the HP lexicon). The blood charm meant that LV couldn't touch Harry on Privet Drive.
When Harry took off on the knight bus, he was very vulnerable to LV. If he stayed at the burrow, they protected him, but the Dursleys were his 'blood' relatives, so, even though they were muggles, their protection was stronger.
FGM
sarahlvinpotter August 17th, 2007, 8:19 pm This is the only part of DH that im confused with and i dont understand, can somone explain to me why voldemort taking harrys blood meant harry didnt die in the forest when AK was used against him? Cheers :tu:
myndon August 17th, 2007, 8:58 pm This is the only part of DH that im confused with and i dont understand, can somone explain to me why voldemort taking harrys blood meant harry didnt die in the forest when AK was used against him? Cheers :tu:
Because Voldemort took Harry's blood, the magical proteection that thwarted Voldemort's first attempt to kill him survived outside of Harry's body. This made it roughly similar to a Horcrux. This, coupled with the fact that Harry was carrying a part of Voldemort's soul in addition to his own, all boiled down into a choice that Harry had: to allow the curse to finish him off, or come back sans Voldemort's soul fragment and try and bring down the Dark Lord.
PerfectWinter August 17th, 2007, 10:37 pm Quote from Philosophers Stone:
"Your mother died to save you. If there is one thing Voldemort cannot understand it is love. He didn't realise that something as strong as your mothers love for you leaves its own mark. Not a scar, no visible sign... to have been loved so deeply, even thought he person who loved us is gone, will give us some protection for ever."
sarahlvinpotter August 19th, 2007, 7:58 pm Because Voldemort took Harry's blood, the magical proteection that thwarted Voldemort's first attempt to kill him survived outside of Harry's body. This made it roughly similar to a Horcrux. This, coupled with the fact that Harry was carrying a part of Voldemort's soul in addition to his own, all boiled down into a choice that Harry had: to allow the curse to finish him off, or come back sans Voldemort's soul fragment and try and bring down the Dark Lord.
Hey, thanks. thats cleared things up quite a bit. :tu:
RemusLupinFan August 29th, 2007, 10:15 pm This thread will be a Question and Answer session to cover the smaller questions raised in the Harry Potter books.
Previous thread found here (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=109395).
ETA LOVEWEASLEYS04 and myself are of the same mind!
:clap:
We do seem to be discussing the same things over and over. There is definitely a lot of disagreement about the interpretation of evens like the final duel, how Harry survived in the forest and the hall, what the flayed baby at king's cross represents, etc. I don't think JKR has addressed these particular things, if she had, someone would have posted it. She needs to, though, because these issues are crucial to understanding the book! Oh, JKR, hear our cries, we are confused!
I believe she is doing a three stop journey in October in the states, where she will be discussing the ending of her book. I would assume some if it would have to do with Harry living and her reasoning for wanting readers to believet that he really could die, so they could go on the journey with him. But I to hope that she is going to be discussing some of these questions.
Okay... so Draco became the true master of the wand. I accept that. But he left the wand behind and, apparntly, and was not in possession of it when Harry disarmed him.
Even so, the wand still saw him as the true master. Once Harry overcame Draco (whether he had the wand or not) Harry became the master of the wand. It is part of the magic of the Elder Wand to know it's master more so than a regular wand.
I guess what I am thinking is the moment Draco abandoned the wand, it became masterless
Except he didn't really make the choice to consciously abandoned it. He didn't know that it was the Elder Wand. The EW still felt allegence to Draco because that was who disarmed it and gained the allegence. I agree that it is part of the magic of the EW to know when its true master has been disarmed or overcome. :)
Discuss!
LoveWeasleys August 29th, 2007, 10:24 pm Okay I was going to put this in my last post, but when I went to edit we got a brand new shiny version of the thread.
Here is some threads to check out for more questions and debate about the Elder Wand
Elder Wand (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=107985&highlight=Elder+Wand)
Discussion: The Deathly Hallows (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=107974&highlight=Discussion%3A+the+Hallows)
Wandlore (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=108169&highlight=Wandlore)
Hope that helps for any further questions :D
final August 29th, 2007, 10:28 pm sorry, that was not my page 95, we probably have different editions anyway yes, in that passage i think you're right, it's the dialogue at the Burrow, isn't it? or maybe ron forgot to be afraid of the name because he was home, or because harry and hermione used to say it, and also, there they could still say it out loud because the taboo wasn't on.
i think it was mistake caus elater before taboo in tents he afraid
mariebeth83 August 30th, 2007, 1:32 am i think it was mistake caus elater before taboo in tents he afraid
I was thinking about this and I don't think it is a mistake. It makes sense that while Ron was at home in the burrow he probably felt a lot safer and protected than when he was in the tent, so he felt able to say it in his home where he had always been safe and loved.
Being on the run with Harry & Hermione and living in a tent for months on end was probably a lot scarier and would have brought back his old fears as well. So I can see why he thought it was a bit "jinxy" to say the name. It's kind of funny though that because of Ron they managed not to get caught for months.
flamelda August 30th, 2007, 4:43 am I never noticed when reading that Ron said You Know Who's name. It actually helps explain his fear of it when they are " camping out". He finally got up the courage to say the name and then all h*** breaks loose.
Perkanator August 30th, 2007, 5:09 am Hello everyone, now that we have seen the actual scene where dumbledore gets cursed by the ring through snape, I have a question.
Snape says it is lucky that dumbledore "made it back," but what does that mean? that would imply that dumbledore cracked the ring at the Gaunts' shack. But why would dumbledore be carrying the sword with him? He doesn't take it with him when he and harry go to get the locket...
So if he used the sword to crack the ring in his office(which would support Phineas Nigellus's quote to Harry/hermione right before Ron left) then why would he tell Snape he "made it back?"
All ideas welcome,
Thanks,
Perkantor
mariebeth83 August 30th, 2007, 5:38 am Hello everyone, now that we have seen the actual scene where dumbledore gets cursed by the ring through snape, I have a question.
Snape says it is lucky that dumbledore "made it back," but what does that mean? that would imply that dumbledore cracked the ring at the Gaunts' shack. But why would dumbledore be carrying the sword with him? He doesn't take it with him when he and harry go to get the locket...
So if he used the sword to crack the ring in his office(which would support Phineas Nigellus's quote to Harry/hermione right before Ron left) then why would he tell Snape he "made it back?"
I'm thinking that he put the ring on when he was at the Gaunt's shack and was cursed by it then. Probably once he realised that it was cursed he took it off, apparated back to Hogsmeade and then had to get to his office to destroy the ring.
LoveWeasleys August 30th, 2007, 1:26 pm that would imply that dumbledore cracked the ring at the Gaunts' shack.
This is what happened:
I'm thinking that he put the ring on when he was at the Gaunt's shack and was cursed by it then. Probably once he realised that it was cursed he took it off, apparated back to Hogsmeade and then had to get to his office to destroy the ring.
When Dumbledore found the ring and saw the familiar Hallow symbol on him, the temptation to put it on was too much for him. He thought of Arianna and probably wanted to appoligize so he put the ring on...he forgot however that at that point the ring was a horcrux and whatever curse was on the horcrux is what damaged his hand. The fact that he was still able to distroy it and make it back to Hogwarts was a feat in itself.
Dumbledore says this about the ring:
"When I discovered it, after all those years, buried in the abandoned home of the Gaunts--the Hallow I had craved most of all, though in my youth I had wanted it for very different reasons--I lost my head, Harry. I quite forgot that it aws now a Horcrux, that the ring was sure to carry a curse. I picked it up, and I put it on, and for a second i imagined that I was about to see Ariana , and my mother, and my father, and tell them how very, very sorry I was...."
So, putting the ring on is what cursed Dumbledore...not destroying it. :)
FirstConsul August 30th, 2007, 2:59 pm 1) How come their arrows never hit anyone?
2) How come they never sleep?
:D
Tenshi August 30th, 2007, 3:26 pm 1) How come their arrows never hit anyone?
2) How come they never sleep?
:D
1) We hardly saw them fighting anyway and they hit, Grawp's face was full of arrows for example.
2) Because they are half horses and horses hardly sleep and they are active at twilight and night, they probably rest during the day.
dorette August 30th, 2007, 6:59 pm 1) How come their arrows never hit anyone?
2) How come they never sleep?
:D
1) mmm, i was under the impression that they were helpful when they started using arrows
2) i don't think they never sleep, only we don't see it in the book
Ifink2much August 30th, 2007, 7:53 pm I wonder if Ron and Hermione ever get their wands back from Malfoy manor.I hope they did,they deserved too.
Hes August 30th, 2007, 8:11 pm I wonder if Ron and Hermione ever get their wands back from Malfoy manor.I hope they did,they deserved too.
I think that they will have tried to get their wands back, after all they worked really well for them.
But it might have been difficult, it was pretty chaotic in Malfoy Manor. However the Malfoys should know what happened with the wands, if they were destroyed or not and might have given them back. Especially since they came off so well after the battle, they had reason to be grateful to Harry and co.
JJFinch August 30th, 2007, 8:14 pm I'm a bit confused about the taboo. We know that it was already in place when the trio were on Tottenham Court Road, because that was how they were found, but they didn't know it. They then went to Grimmauld Place and used Voldy's name like a gazillion times, and yet they kept saying that the few DEs outside couldn't know they were in there or there would be more DEs there - there were no more DEs around Grimmauld Place than there were around the other Order members' houses (I think Lupin confirmed this). So was it a mistake? Why didn't the taboo work?
Hes August 30th, 2007, 8:19 pm I'm a bit confused about the taboo. We know that it was already in place when the trio were on Tottenham Court Road, because that was how they were found, but they didn't know it. They then went to Grimmauld Place and used Voldy's name like a gazillion times, and yet they kept saying that the few DEs outside couldn't know they were in there or there would be more DEs there - there were no more DEs around Grimmauld Place than there were around the other Order members' houses (I think Lupin confirmed this). So was it a mistake? Why didn't the taboo work?
I think the taboo did work, but it impossible for the Death Eaters to enter the house, due to all the protection it still had. So the Death Eaters did know that the trio was there, the trace worked and alerted them everytime the name Voldemort was spoken, but they just couldn't do anything about it. They had to wait for a mistake from the trio's side.
Sesshoumaru August 30th, 2007, 9:32 pm I think the taboo did work, but it impossible for the Death Eaters to enter the house, due to all the protection it still had. So the Death Eaters did know that the trio was there, the trace worked and alerted them everytime the name Voldemort was spoken, but they just couldn't do anything about it. They had to wait for a mistake from the trio's side.
Yeah. The Fidelius charm couldn't be broken by the Taboo, so they still couldn't find them, but if they had gone out of area of Grimmauld Place (like past that first step) and said it they would have been found (That is of course before LV had people watching the place...Er well trying to watch the place)
Grotfang August 30th, 2007, 10:34 pm Maybe. The other possibility is that all of the defensive spells and secretive charms laid on the place prevented the taboo from having an affect. Remember the DEs keep on getting glimpses of arms, etc, and this may explain the increasing numbers...
Sirius_Bakk August 30th, 2007, 10:53 pm So was it a mistake? Why didn't the taboo work?
It was not a mistake ;)
Death Eaters are there (at Grimmauld Place) because the Taboo works ;)
They know somebody's saying the name somewhere near, but they can't get inside the house because it's protected by the Fidelius Charm.
JeanM August 30th, 2007, 11:43 pm Speaking of the centaurs, I wondered if their original intention when passed by the Deatheaters was to fight them, or if it was the insults thrown at the centaurs that made them attack.
Different subject: was anyone else disappointed that Winky didn't make a reappearance in D.H.? So many other seemingly minor characters and concepts found a way into the book, but poor Winky... maybe she would've, but she was "sleeping it off"! <g>
mariebeth83 August 31st, 2007, 12:00 am So, putting the ring on is what cursed Dumbledore...not destroying it. :)
I wasn't saying that it was destroying the ring that cursed him - if it was because of that then Ron would have been cursed when he destroyed the locket :D
TR0391 August 31st, 2007, 2:03 am I have a question about the Fidelius Charm. In the Manor, Ron is able to say the name of Bill's house, even though Bill says that he is the secret keeper. In that case, how would Ron be able to say it?
Sesshoumaru August 31st, 2007, 2:30 am Ron can still say it, but it doesn't mean it can be found out since Rons not the secret keeper.
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Remember in Order of the Phoenix? When they first went to 12 Grimmauld Place. None of the members, while knowing the secret, could let him see it. I'm sure they could have said where it is and Harry still wouldn't be able to see it because only the secret keeper can allow somebody to know the location of a protected place.
jshapiro10510 August 31st, 2007, 4:45 am When the teachers fight Snape and he jumps out of a window, we see that he is flying away as a bat. Does this mean that he is an illegal animagus or is he a registered animagus but we never found out. Or did he just transfigure himself. Share your toughts.
TR0391 August 31st, 2007, 5:00 am No, but I thought that under the Fidelius Charm, the secret keeper can tell others the secret but those people in return cannot tell others. That is why when Harry got to Grimmauld Place they didn't tell him, they had to show him Dumbledore's writing. And when Ron tells Dobby the name of Shell Cottage, Dobby is able to find it, which should not happen as Ron is not the Secret Keeper.
Alorra Spinnet August 31st, 2007, 5:20 am No, but I thought that under the Fidelius Charm, the secret keeper can tell others the secret but those people in return cannot tell others. That is why when Harry got to Grimmauld Place they didn't tell him, they had to show him Dumbledore's writing. And when Ron tells Dobby the name of Shell Cottage, Dobby is able to find it, which should not happen as Ron is not the Secret Keeper.
The Fidelius charm hadn't been put on the cottage yet. It wasn't until after Dobby showed up with the first group and alerted Bill to the danger that the charm was performed. Wether before or after the second group got there is uncertain, but if it was before Bill could still have allowed Dobby to know and bring the others with him. That may even be why Harry felt like Dobby was tugging him in the proper direction when he wasn't sure if what he was thinking was good enough to get him there.
mariebeth83 August 31st, 2007, 8:11 am When the teachers fight Snape and he jumps out of a window, we see that he is flying away as a bat. Does this mean that he is an illegal animagus or is he a registered animagus but we never found out. Or did he just transfigure himself. Share your toughts.
No, I think it was just that with his cloak billowing out it made him look like a bat. I don't think that he was an animagus.
SusanBones August 31st, 2007, 12:02 pm I have a question about the Fidelius Charm. In the Manor, Ron is able to say the name of Bill's house, even though Bill says that he is the secret keeper. In that case, how would Ron be able to say it?I was confused about this, too, since only a person who has been told the secret directly by the secret keeper should have been able to find Shell Cottage. Everyone who had been in on the secret of Grimmauld Place had become a secret keeper when Dumbledore died. That is how they were able to set up so many safe houses. Bill was able to make Shell Cottage a safe home. But I don't know how Ron found it unless all the people who are were in on the Grimmauld Place secret are now in on the secret of all the safe homes of everyone else.
The other thought I had was that maybe house elves can get into homes that are protected by the Fidelis Charm without knowing the secret. But I'm not sure that is right.
When the teachers fight Snape and he jumps out of a window, we see that he is flying away as a bat. Does this mean that he is an illegal animagus or is he a registered animagus but we never found out. Or did he just transfigure himself. Share your toughts.Voldemort can fly and so can Snape. It must be some sort of a flying charm or something. I don't think either of them become animaguses in order to fly. Harry sees Voldemort flying through the air as himself, not as a creature like a bat. And someone makes a comment that Snape can do it, too.
Sirius_Bakk August 31st, 2007, 7:24 pm And someone makes a comment that Snape can do it, too.
Yes, McGonnagall :)
Voldemort created the spell for flying, and he told Snape how to do it.
unconvinced August 31st, 2007, 7:28 pm Voldemort created the spell for flying, and he told Snape how to do it.
I quite liked that it showed how trustworthy Voldemort considdered Snape, really confirmation from when he asked Snape to sit at his right during the meeting.
Freaky August 31st, 2007, 9:26 pm No, I think it was just that with his cloak billowing out it made him look like a bat. I don't think that he was an animagus.
I agree this bit (along with many others) was very confusing but I think that from McG's comment he was "simply" able to fly the same way that Voldemort can fly - without a broomstick etc., - and his billowing cloak was why it makes you think he is actually a bat. He's often been referred to as bat-like during the books.
The Fidelius charm hadn't been put on the cottage yet.
Again, another confusing one when you finish the book and think about it. I agree that the Fidelius Charm was only put on the cottage after Harry, Ron etc,. arrive thanks to Dobby. It was put on the house because as Bill said everyone will now know that Ron is not sick with splattergoit and therefore the family will be at risk. All the Weasley's (I think) have charms put on their houses now.
_emily August 31st, 2007, 9:39 pm This has been discussed, so I apologize, but I still don't quite understand.
Can someone please explain where Harry was when he was in that sort of limbo? and why he was able to choose to stay dead or come back? It really just confuses me and I have no clue what was going on. Sorry, this probably makes me sound pretty dumb.:shrug:
Murzim August 31st, 2007, 11:18 pm This has been discussed, so I apologize, but I still don't quite understand.
Can someone please explain where Harry was when he was in that sort of limbo? and why he was able to choose to stay dead or come back? It really just confuses me and I have no clue what was going on. Sorry, this probably makes me sound pretty dumb. JKR's description of that King's Cross experience reminds me a lot of storys of people that have been reanimated. Some say that when they were 'dead' there was a bright light, they felt incredibly content and there was no more pain. And that they had a choice to go on or go back to life.
The whole scene is very much like a dream, when ever Harry cocentrates on something it takes shape. The Dumbledore doesn't give him new information, he says "you know that, think!" repeatedly.
To me it's all Harry working things out, the form he gives to the things he now recognizes is Dumbledore.
I know that is arguable, this scene is open to interpretation, But I think Harry got it right: It was happening in his head and that doesn't make it less real.
I hope that helps a bit with a question that is certainly not dumb.
LudwigVan September 1st, 2007, 12:35 am The whole scene is very much like a dream, when ever Harry cocentrates on something it takes shape. The Dumbledore doesn't give him new information, he says "you know that, think!" repeatedly.
To me it's all Harry working things out, the form he gives to the things he now recognizes is Dumbledore.
I don't agree. If that Dumbledore had not been the "real one" and just one created by Harry's mind, I don't think he could have told Harry everything about his family and how he felt about it. I just don't see Harry deducing that from the memories he has from Dumbledore.
Sesshoumaru September 1st, 2007, 12:51 am Who's to say ol' Dumbledore wasn't able to pay him a visit in his minds current state. XD
We barely know anything of the afterlife in the Potterverse...
I'm just throwing out another random thought here but what if the resurrection stones power left a temporary connection with the afterlife that was exploited by Dumbledore when Harry went into his sort of Limbo..
Don't get yelling at me that it's unlikely, insane, yada yada, I said it was a random thought :lol:
Murzim September 1st, 2007, 1:56 am I don't agree. If that Dumbledore had not been the "real one" and just one created by Harry's mind, I don't think he could have told Harry everything about his family and how he felt about it. I just don't see Harry deducing that from the memories he has from Dumbledore. He did not tell anything Harry did not know. Harry had learned the entire family-story facts already, the only new bit was how Dumbledore felt about it, and as this is very much the same way Harry feels about his lost parents and the other people who died for him ...
But as I said, IMO there is more than one way to interpret that chapter.
I'm just throwing out another random thought here but what if the resurrection stones power left a temporary connection with the afterlife that was exploited by Dumbledore when Harry went into his sort of Limbo..
Don't get yelling at me that it's unlikely, insane, yada yada, I said it was a random thought Possible, but the effect of the stone seemed to have faded the moment Harry dropped it. I was a bit surprised that Harry did not choose to bring Dumbledore back in the first place.
Pigleto972001 September 1st, 2007, 5:13 am Speaking of the centaurs, I wondered if their original intention when passed by the Deatheaters was to fight them, or if it was the insults thrown at the centaurs that made them attack.
i think the centaurs were initially going to be neutral, and not act...based on their interaction with harry in the first book. when they were asked about how things were going they were pretty vague about their predictions "mars is bright tonight." the only one who actively helped harry out (i forgot his name, ronan or something) was yelled at for interfering.
that being said i'm not sure what prompted the centaurs to attack, either it was the insults by the DEs or perhaps it was hagrid's anguised cry to Bane about harry's "death."
LilMzSunshine September 1st, 2007, 11:07 am sorry if this has been posted before but i thought that levicorpus was a non verbal spell so why did hermione 'whisper' it in gringotts when they were breaking in??
LoveWeasleys September 1st, 2007, 12:44 pm that being said i'm not sure what prompted the centaurs to attack, either it was the insults by the DEs or perhaps it was hagrid's anguised cry to Bane about harry's "death."
I would say that both these reasons playing together prompted the Centaurs to attack. They remind me of the Ents in LoTR. They remained neurtal until they saw that the war they thought they had nothing to do with was going to affect them either way. With Harry dead, I feel they may have thought that Voldy was going to win. They saw how the DEs treated them and knew that if Voldy was allowed to win their furture would not be good. So they fought. :)
SusanBones September 1st, 2007, 12:51 pm that being said i'm not sure what prompted the centaurs to attack, either it was the insults by the DEs or perhaps it was hagrid's anguised cry to Bane about harry's "death."
I think there are a couple of things that happened that influenced the Centaurs. First, we have Hagrid yelling at them while carrying what he thinks is a dead Harry:
"Bane!"
Hagrid's unexpected bellow nearly forced Harry's eyes open. "Happy now, are yeh, that yeh didn't fight, yeh cowardly bunch o' nags? Are yeh happy Harry Potter's -d-dead . . . "
snip
Some of the Death Eaters called insults at the centaurs as they left them behind.
The taunting by the Death Eaters, the comments by Hagrid, and the fact that they can see what their future may be like with the Death Eaters in charge have probably made them realize that they can no longer stay out of human affairs. This turn of events will influence their lives and it is time to act to change what looks like a gloomy future for Centaurs.
Murzim September 1st, 2007, 10:08 pm I agree with susan! But I like to add that they did pay there last respect to Dumbledore at the funeral, that showed that those who recoginsed a certain bond to the wizarding world had not been silenced with the departure of Firenze.
And the DE's had settled in their forrest. In HBP they did not even permit Hagrid to enter it any more, and the DE's would certainly share Umbridge's oppinions.
I don't think the centaures cared a lot about Harry living or dying, but I can't rule out that it had been fortold they would enter the battle after the One had met death.
HJP navy seal September 2nd, 2007, 6:21 am Well, i was reading DH today, and realized something.....Neville longbottom SOMEHOW throws off the body bind curse that Voldemort puts on him (When he puts the sorting hat on, and it bursts into flames). Am i just reading this wrong? or is there a logical explanation? Please post your thoughts!
Tom1717 September 2nd, 2007, 7:48 am I believe Harry explains this one in his conversation with Voldemort during the final showdown. He says that because he died for everyone Voldemort's spells have no lasting effect on his victoms. this is also why Harry is unharmed by the cruciatus curse in the forest after he awakens. Hope this clears things up.
Thomas
SweetSorrow September 2nd, 2007, 8:07 am Hey i was wondering i looked and i couldn't find anything In the book it They say Merlins Beard but does it actually say if he was a wizard?
SusanBones September 2nd, 2007, 1:43 pm Hey i was wondering i looked and i couldn't find anything In the book it They say Merlins Beard but does it actually say if he was a wizard?
Merlin is on a chocolate frog card in the first book, so I assume that he is a wizard.
FirstConsul September 2nd, 2007, 3:51 pm Why are chocolate frogs cards pictures' colored and the Daily Prophet black and white?:D
In SS"A tall, black-haired witch in emerald-green
robes stood there. She had a very stern face and Harry's first thought
was that this was not someone to cross."
Why did she appear short in the movie? :D
Potterwatch07 September 2nd, 2007, 4:00 pm Yes, Harry explains it when he is telling Voldemort that none of the spells are long lasting for him. For one, the wand does not work for Voldemort because he is not the master, and two, because Harry sacrificed himself because he loved these people, just as his mother did for him then non of Voldemort's spells would last. Like when he silenced the crowd, it did not last because Ron spoke out after he cast that spell, and then the crown began shouting again.
Tenshi September 2nd, 2007, 4:10 pm Why are chocolate frogs cards pictures' colored and the Daily Prophet black and white?:D
Because most newspaper pictures are black and white. To print with Coloured ink is more expensive and I guess it's the same in the Wizard World.
In SS"A tall, black-haired witch in emerald-green
robes stood there. She had a very stern face and Harry's first thought
was that this was not someone to cross."
Why did she appear short in the movie? :DBecause Maggie Smith is tall like that. You can't get actors who fit the description 100 %.
FirstConsul September 2nd, 2007, 4:27 pm Because most newspaper pictures are black and white. To print with Coloured ink is more expensive and I guess it's the same in the Wizard World.
Wait... why were the Hogwarts letters written in green? Is that supposed to be wasteful expenditure? No wonder they have funding problems:D
Just poking fun;)
"Harry's mouth fell open. The dishes in front of him were now piled with
food. He had never seen so many things he liked to eat on one table:
roast beef, roast chicken, pork chops and lamb chops, sausages, bacon
and steak, boiled potatoes, roast potatoes, fries, Yorkshire pudding,
peas, carrots, gravy, ketchup, and, for some strange reason, peppermint
humbugs."
What happened to vegetables? Spinach? Broccoli? Asparagus? Cmon we've got to test the hero's heart with some nasty brussel sprouts! :D
Chris September 2nd, 2007, 4:33 pm test the hero's heart with some nasty brussel sprouts! :D
The house elves are allergic :lol:
Regarding the Daily Prophet, I don't recall any description of color vs. black-and-white in the books...I do know in the movies it was in black-and-white. It gives it a more "newspaperish" feel to be in black-and-white, for sure.
GodricHollow September 2nd, 2007, 4:37 pm I don't know about you, but when I'm attending a feastish type thing similar to the opening feasts, I always pass over, i.e. don't notice, stuff I don't like, thus Harry can be excused for not noting veg.
reneerox14 September 2nd, 2007, 8:36 pm I dont know where this question goes but Im dying to ask it. I came across this quote on the internet "Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus", or never tickle a sleeping dragon. Where did it say this in the books because I have no clue as to where in the books it is, and I really want to read it??
Sesshoumaru September 2nd, 2007, 9:02 pm I dont know where this question goes but Im dying to ask it. I came across this quote on the internet "Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus", or never tickle a sleeping dragon. Where did it say this in the books because I have no clue as to where in the books it is, and I really want to read it??
I'm pretty sure it was in the first book, although since it's been a while I don't remember exactly where.
Tenshi September 2nd, 2007, 9:09 pm I dont know where this question goes but Im dying to ask it. I came across this quote on the internet "Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus", or never tickle a sleeping dragon. Where did it say this in the books because I have no clue as to where in the books it is, and I really want to read it??
It's not mentioned in the story, just on the crest in the beginning of the books. :)
witchsmart September 2nd, 2007, 11:46 pm FirstConsul:
peppermint
humbugs."
I've always wondered this. What's a humbug?
Tenshi September 2nd, 2007, 11:49 pm I've always wondered this. What's a humbug?
Humbug is an expression like "nonsense". :)
LudwigVan September 2nd, 2007, 11:50 pm I wanted to ask (and i'm pretty sure of the answer but what the heck) when the trio apparated after the wedding, the two Death Eaters found them becuase they spoke Voldemort's name? was it tabooed already? Why did Greyback and the other snatchers found out where the trio was when Harry spoke Voldemort's name if the place was protected by spells and was invisible to everyone? Harry also spoke his name in Grimmauld place, I assume that after that they knew they where there? (they can't see it, but if the word was tabooed the would know it came from that zone)
witchsmart September 3rd, 2007, 12:01 am Tenshi:
Humbug is an expression like "nonsense".
I didn't know nonsense came in peppermint. :p I know it's used as an expression, but I wondered what sort of food it was.
LudwigVan:
I wanted to ask (and i'm pretty sure of the answer but what the heck) when the trio apparated after the wedding, the two Death Eaters found them becuase they spoke Voldemort's name? was it tabooed already? Why did Greyback and the other snatchers found out where the trio was when Harry spoke Voldemort's name if the place was protected by spells and was invisible to everyone? Harry also spoke his name in Grimmauld place, I assume that after that they knew they where there? (they can't see it, but if the word was tabooed the would know it came from that zone)
That sounds right. I think that as far as the magical protections and spells, they were broken once Voldemort's name was spoken aloud, as a result of the taboo. But that couldn't be the case for Grimmauld Place because the Fidelus Charm can only be broken by the secret keeper him/herself. Either that, or the Fidelus Charm sort of, removes a building/area so that things like taboos don't have any effect there. And the only reason the death eaters knew the trio was there was because Snape said it was a likely hiding spot. I think Ron says something about this though, when he comes back to them and destroys the locket and stuff, but I don't have the book with me, so I can't be sure.
Tenshi September 3rd, 2007, 12:08 am I didn't know nonsense came in peppermint. I know it's used as an expression, but I wondered what sort of food it was.
All hail to wiki :D
Humbug (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humbug_%28sweet%29)
mariebeth83 September 3rd, 2007, 12:13 am I wanted to ask (and i'm pretty sure of the answer but what the heck) when the trio apparated after the wedding, the two Death Eaters found them becuase they spoke Voldemort's name? was it tabooed already? Why did Greyback and the other snatchers found out where the trio was when Harry spoke Voldemort's name if the place was protected by spells and was invisible to everyone? Harry also spoke his name in Grimmauld place, I assume that after that they knew they where there? (they can't see it, but if the word was tabooed the would know it came from that zone)
I think the death eaters had a good idea they were there, because of saying voldemorts name. But because of the Fidelius charm they couldn't see the building or know how to get into it.
Also - I guess they were able to break through the charms that Hermione, Harry & Ron put up more easily because they probably weren't the strongest charms that they could put up and as the death eaters knew where to find them then they could probably break them more easily.
witchsmart September 3rd, 2007, 12:17 am Tenshi:
All hail to wiki
Humbug
*bows to the awesome power of wiki*
Thanks. :D
gillikitty2000 September 3rd, 2007, 12:53 am he gave his mother's protection for everyone. that is why voldemort wasnt able to put lasting curses on anyone.
LudwigVan September 3rd, 2007, 12:58 am I knew they where Peppermint flavoured!
Although of the excellent answers you have mad to my question, I still can't understand how the snatchers broke hte enchantents upon the tent that easy and quick
witchsmart September 3rd, 2007, 1:08 am LudwigVan:
Although of the excellent answers you have mad to my question, I still can't understand how the snatchers broke hte enchantents upon the tent that easy and quick
My belief is that by saying Voldemort's name and activating the taboo, the enchantments around the tent were broken. Or it could be what mariebeth83 said, that the Death Eaters could easily break through their enchantments surrounding the tent.
Aliena September 3rd, 2007, 1:16 am The Taboo broke the enchantments; Ron tells Harry & Hermione about it when he returns to them:
...the name's been jinxed, Harry, that's how they track people! Using his name breaks protective enchantments, it causes some kind of magical disturbance -- it's how they found us in Tottenham Court Road!
HedwigOwl September 3rd, 2007, 1:18 am My belief is that by saying Voldemort's name and activating the taboo, the enchantments around the tent were broken. Or it could be what mariebeth83 said, that the Death Eaters could easily break through their enchantments surrounding the tent.
It's the former -- page 389, DH, U.S. edition. Using the "taboo" name allows DE's to find the perpetrators, and it also breaks magical enchantments by causing a magical disturbance (according to Ron).
witchsmart September 3rd, 2007, 1:24 am Aliena:
The Taboo broke the enchantments; Ron tells Harry & Hermione about it when he returns to them:
pg. 389, DH, US Edition...the name's been jinxed, Harry, that's how they track people! Using his name breaks protective enchantments, it causes some kind of magical disturbance -- it's how they found us in Tottenham Court Road!
I thought he told them about it somewhere . . . thanks for the quote.
LudwigVan September 3rd, 2007, 2:42 am The Taboo broke the enchantments; Ron tells Harry & Hermione about it when he returns to them:
...the name's been jinxed, Harry, that's how they track people! Using his name breaks protective enchantments, it causes some kind of magical disturbance -- it's how they found us in Tottenham Court Road!
Thank you very much :tu: (you too HedwigOwl), I forgot what exactly Ron told them about the taboo.
FirstConsul September 3rd, 2007, 11:20 am I don't know about you, but when I'm attending a feastish type thing similar to the opening feasts, I always pass over, i.e. don't notice, stuff I don't like, thus Harry can be excused for not noting veg.
I was more curious about wizard diet :P, doesn't seem too healthy to me yet they live so long. Must be something that gets rid of the cholesterol:p.
"The lake froze solid and the
Weasley twins were punished for bewitching several snowballs so that
they followed Quirrell around, bouncing off the back of his turban"
Why weren't they heavily punished later on by Voldy?:D
witchsmart September 3rd, 2007, 5:05 pm FirstConsul:
"The lake froze solid and the
Weasley twins were punished for bewitching several snowballs so that
they followed Quirrell around, bouncing off the back of his turban"
Why weren't they heavily punished later on by Voldy?
He punished Fred to be certain. Maybe he laid a curse on them so that they would suffer their worst nightmare, being forever separated from each other. :upset:
MrSleepyHead September 3rd, 2007, 9:12 pm What happened to vegetables? Spinach? Broccoli? Asparagus? Cmon we've got to test the hero's heart with some nasty brussel sprouts!
Normally, when presented a feast of this sort, children/adolescents do not think of eating their vegetables. A list of the foods Harry liked to eat was given - not a list of everything that was there. After years of imprisonment by the Dursleys (eating bread and cheese for dinner, etc.), Harry was not concerned with being healthy - he was concerned with eating the most tasty things he could find.
test the hero's heart with some nasty brussel sprouts!
The house elves are allergic
Actually, we know that brussel sprouts are offered at Hogwarts, for Hermione was described with "her mouth bulging with sprouts" before going off to do research on house-elves. Here (http://www.hp-lexicon.org/essays/essay-food.html) is all the information you should want to know about food and drink in Harry Potter.
HedwigOwl September 3rd, 2007, 9:35 pm I was more curious about wizard diet :P, doesn't seem too healthy to me yet they live so long. Must be something that gets rid of the cholesterol:p.
Maybe magical blood doesn't allow the cholesterol to stick!:lol: We should be so lucky.
celtics543 September 3rd, 2007, 10:24 pm Pretty self explanatory, I'm just wondering who Teddy Lupin ended up living with while he grew up. I would assume that it wasn't Harry because in the epilogue Harry was saying that Teddy was coming around for dinner a lot, and that he should just live there.
Did he go and live with Andromeda or do you think someone like the Weasley's raised him?
BurrowGhoul September 3rd, 2007, 10:38 pm I'm sure this has been asked, but, did Harry return the hawthorn wand to Draco? Or would it not matter, because now it won't work as well for Draco?
LudwigVan September 3rd, 2007, 11:26 pm His grandmother Andromeda. Although he visited Harry like 3 or 4 days a week :). Jo tolded it in his interview!
irishdancer34 September 3rd, 2007, 11:27 pm Did we ever find out what that spell was that Dumbledore used against Voldemort and against Snape? I seem to remember JKR saying it was important...
LoveWeasleys September 3rd, 2007, 11:29 pm I'm sure this has been asked, but, did Harry return the hawthorn wand to Draco? Or would it not matter, because now it won't work as well for Draco?
I don't know if this has been asked, but we were not told for sure whether he did or not. :)
Did we ever find out what that spell was that Dumbledore used against Voldemort and against Snape? I seem to remember JKR saying it was important...
What part in the books are you referring to?
I don't recall Dumbledore ever using a spell on Snape.
mariebeth83 September 4th, 2007, 1:27 am I've just asked this in the thread about Peter Pettigrew being secret keeper, but thought I'd ask it here as well, because it's more appropriate here I guess, but it was part of an overall comment in the other thread
Anyway, I was wondering why didn't James become Secret Keeper for the house in Godrics Hallow? In DH Bill is the secret keeper for Shell Cottage where he & Fleur live so James or Lily could have been secret keepers!
Although if they had been secret keepers then the story would have been very different!
irishdancer34 September 4th, 2007, 1:34 am What part in the books are you referring to?
I don't recall Dumbledore ever using a spell on Snape.
Oh, sorry; should have been more clear. The one that DD uses on Voldemort in the Misinstry so that Voldemort has to summon a shield to block. And I think he tries to use it on Snape in the Princes Tale in the Forest. And for some reason, I seem to remember that it's supposed to be important...
witchsmart September 4th, 2007, 2:40 am mariebeth83:
Anyway, I was wondering why didn't James become Secret Keeper for the house in Godrics Hallow? In DH Bill is the secret keeper for Shell Cottage where he & Fleur live so James or Lily could have been secret keepers!
Although if they had been secret keepers then the story would have been very different!
I can only think of two reasons why James or Lily weren't the secret keepers. One: They had to go out for food and stuff sometime, and so they would be easy targets for Voldemort to track down and break the Fidelius Curse. But I think that they would've died rather than tell Voldemort. So I think what you said, there wouldn't be a story otherwise, is the real reason. :)
jasper September 4th, 2007, 2:46 am I've just asked this in the thread about Peter Pettigrew being secret keeper, but thought I'd ask it here as well, because it's more appropriate here I guess, but it was part of an overall comment in the other thread
Anyway, I was wondering why didn't James become Secret Keeper for the house in Godrics Hallow? In DH Bill is the secret keeper for Shell Cottage where he & Fleur live so James or Lily could have been secret keepers!
Although if they had been secret keepers then the story would have been very different!
Don't you think the concept of secret keepers and fidelous charms was seriously confusing in this book? Who tells Dobby about Shell cottage? How do all those characters even see it when they escape there?
witchsmart September 4th, 2007, 2:48 am jasper:
Don't you think the concept of secret keepers and fidelous charms was seriously confusing in this book? Who tells Dobby about Shell cottage? How do all those characters even see it when they escape there?
Did they see it right away? Or did Bill/Fleur come down first, and then lead them up to the cottage, thereby revealing its location?
HedwigOwl September 4th, 2007, 3:26 am Don't you think the concept of secret keepers and fidelous charms was seriously confusing in this book? Who tells Dobby about Shell cottage? How do all those characters even see it when they escape there?
Ron told Dobby, page 468, DH, U.S. edition.
Dedalus Diggle September 4th, 2007, 3:38 am Ron told Dobby, page 468, DH, U.S. edition.
But Ron wasn't the secret-kkeper.
mariebeth83 September 4th, 2007, 3:51 am It is really confusing in DH. Especially when you look back at OOTP because Harry got a written note from Dumbledore to tell him about 12 Grimauld place so that he could get into the house.
The only reason I can think of is that house elves can get through this charm the same way that they can apparate into and out of Hogwarts. Or else that Dobby apparated as close as he could get to Shell Cottage and that Bill or Fleur let them in then. I don't know, it is very confusing and not well constructed when put together with what we know of the Fidelius charm and secret keepers.
HedwigOwl September 4th, 2007, 4:02 am But Ron wasn't the secret-kkeper.
er........good point......how was Ron able to tell anyone?
Aliena September 4th, 2007, 4:57 am er........good point......how was Ron able to tell anyone?
Because Shell Cottage wasn't under the Fidelius Charm at that point. The FC wasn't cast until Ron & co. arrived at Shell Cottage - that's when the Death Eaters knew that Ron was not really home with spattergroit, but was out helping "Undesirable Number One", and so that's when Weasleys were in extreme danger.
wickedwickedboy September 4th, 2007, 5:26 am Does anyone recall the scene where Harry thinks that he is acting rash/reckless in light of being a godfather - possibly going to die and leave Teddy godfatherless as well as parentless - I can't find it, I would appreciate if someone could help. Now I can't remember if it was in the book or I read it here, lol.
HedwigOwl September 4th, 2007, 5:31 am Because Shell Cottage wasn't under the Fidelius Charm at that point. The FC wasn't cast until Ron & co. arrived at Shell Cottage - that's when the Death Eaters knew that Ron was not really home with spattergroit, but was out helping "Undesirable Number One", and so that's when Weasleys were in extreme danger.
Aliena - Thanks for clearing that up!! (page 482, DH, U.S. edition)
Does anyone recall the scene where Harry thinks that he is acting rash/reckless in light of being a godfather - possibly going to die and leave Teddy godfatherless as well as parentless - I can't find it, I would appreciate if someone could help. Now I can't remember if it was in the book or I read it here, lol.
It was the night before the Gringott's episode, DH, page 518, U.S. edition.
wickedwickedboy September 4th, 2007, 7:16 am It was the night before the Gringott's episode, DH, page 518, U.S. edition.
Ta for that...I thought it was in there somewhere! I'm brit edition, but at least I can find it now. :)
mariebeth83 September 4th, 2007, 7:23 am Ta for that...I thought it was in there somewhere! I'm brit edition, but at least I can find it now. :)
I can't even remember that :lol: gonna have to go check it myself!
LudwigVan September 4th, 2007, 7:35 am Ta for that...I thought it was in there somewhere! I'm brit edition, but at least I can find it now. :)
Didn't remeber either. I recently started rereading DH and there were a lot of things that I didn't remember :relax:.
puttykat13 September 4th, 2007, 8:54 am I'm thinking of writing a new fanfic about the Marauders and everything, and obviously we all know that James' parents died, but does anyone know what their names were?:)
Tenshi September 4th, 2007, 11:22 am I'm thinking of writing a new fanfic about the Marauders and everything, and obviously we all know that James' parents died, but does anyone know what their names were?
No, we don't know their names. :)
FirstConsul September 4th, 2007, 11:52 am Why was Harry given the title "Undesirable Number One"? When I saw that I wanted to laugh cuz it sounded like an undesirable spouse or something, just kidding.
PS/SS""Look there," said Hagrid, "see that stuff shinin' on the ground?
Silvery stuff? That's unicorn blood. There's a unicorn in there bin hurt
badly by summat. This is the second time in a week. I found one dead
last Wednesday. We're gonna try an' find the poor thing. We might have
ter put it out of its misery.""
Any idea how Hagrid would put the unicorn out of its misery?
Picko September 4th, 2007, 11:57 am Why was Harry given the title "Undesirable Number One"? When I saw that I wanted to laugh cuz it sounded like an undesirable spouse or something, just kidding.
He ws Undesirable Number One because he was the one that the Death Eaters wanted to catch the most, essentially it was the same as saying Harry was number one on their "Most Wanted" list.
PS/SS""Look there," said Hagrid, "see that stuff shinin' on the ground?
Silvery stuff? That's unicorn blood. There's a unicorn in there bin hurt
badly by summat. This is the second time in a week. I found one dead
last Wednesday. We're gonna try an' find the poor thing. We might have
ter put it out of its misery.""
Any idea how Hagrid would put the unicorn out of its misery?
He would kill it, with a bow or perhaps even with his bare hands.
FirstConsul September 4th, 2007, 12:00 pm "All right, but I warn yeh, he's a coward," said Hagrid. " So me, Harry,
an' Hermione'll go one way an' Draco, Neville, an' Fang'll go the other.
Now, if any of us finds the unicorn, we'll send up green sparks, right?
Get yer wands out an' practice now -- that's it -- an' if anyone gets in
trouble, send up red sparks, an' we'll all come an' find yeh -- so, be
careful -- let's go."
How do they shoot up green and red sparks?:D
"What have you been telling him?" growled Bane. "Remember, Firenze, we
are sworn not to set ourselves against the heavens. Have we not read
what is to come in the movements of the planets?"
Who did they swear to? Was their predictive ability from whoever they sworn secrecy to?
Tenshi September 4th, 2007, 1:42 pm How do they shoot up green and red sparks?
With a wand.
Who did they swear to? Was their predictive ability from whoever they sworn secrecy to?To themselves I assume. They probably discussed it within the group and made a vow not to infer in Wizard politics.
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Any ideas, why there came boys with Beauxbatons in book 4, although they are a girls only school?
witchsmart September 4th, 2007, 4:06 pm Tenshi:
Any ideas, why there came boys with Beauxbatons in book 4, although they are a girls only school?
Were there any other boys besides the one that laid down the footstool for Madame Maxime? Where does it say it's a girls-only school though?
BublGumPnkHar September 4th, 2007, 4:33 pm Any ideas, why there came boys with Beauxbatons in book 4, although they are a girls only school?
That's only the movie.
Jo never said the other schools were single gender. Since Jo's books are canon and the movies are seldom are, I would pick Jo. :D
If we had heard more about Durmstrang (in the book) other than Krum and Karkaroff, we might have heard mention of the Durmstrang girls. The boys from Beauxbaton were mentioned, were mostly in to show courtesy to Madame Maxine and to give the Patil twins someone to dance with at the Yule Ball.
jelee_uk September 4th, 2007, 5:45 pm It only just occurred to me, that Ron and Hermione's birthdays are never included in the books? I think it was mentioned that Hermione's birthday was in September, and I'm sure there was a brief mention of Ron's birthday somewhere as well. But to my recollection, nowhere is there a scene involving their birthdays.
Does anyone else think it would have been interesting to have a scene/s involving Ron and Hermione's birthday celebrations? No doubt Rowling did not include this because it wasn't relevant to the main plot, but I reckon she could have made it relevant to the main plot, if she had created some events around Ron/Hermione's birthday...it just seemed to me like quite a significant absence, seeing as Ron and Hermione are two of the three main characters in the series.
hermy_weasley2 September 4th, 2007, 6:02 pm There's a scene for Ron's birthday in HBP when he comes of age. Mr. and Mrs. Weasley send him a new watch, which Mrs. Weasley brings up later when she tells Harry his birthday watch isn't new like Ron's. I believe it's also the scene where Ron eats the chocolate cauldrons filled with love potion.
Hermione mentions in PoA too, I think, that the money she uses top buy Crookshanks is a birthday present. So it's not mentioned directly, but it's there.
But you're right, most of the time, their birthdays aren't mentioned at all. I gues it's just a matter of Harry's point of view like so many other things in the series.
LoveWeasleys September 4th, 2007, 6:33 pm How do they shoot up green and red sparks?
Here is a list of spells...I don't know if the actual spell is on there or not...
ABC List of Spells (http://www.hp-lexicon.org/magic/spells/spells.html)
Who did they swear to? Was their predictive ability from whoever they sworn secrecy to?
Good question. I don't believe we are ever told, but I would assume it would be some kind of oath that they took in and amongst themselves...like a tribal thing. Thus, they are able to punish Fiernaz when he leaves the forest to help Dumbledore in OoTP. It might be some kind of law within their world and kind. Maybe some kind of coming of age ritual that is performed within the Centaur group in which they have to take certain vows to obey by Centaur law....This is all just a speculation...I have no canon to prove either way :D
mrchee September 4th, 2007, 6:55 pm One of my minor peeves in the series is that Harry always gets multiple presents from his friends but almost never is shown reciprocating.
Tenshi September 4th, 2007, 7:02 pm That's only the movie. Jo never said the other schools were single gender. Since Jo's books are canon and the movies are seldom are, I would pick Jo.
Ouch, it's been a long time that I read the book. Thanks. :lol:
Schlubalybub September 4th, 2007, 8:13 pm I agree that it is never shown that he gives presents to his friends, but I don't think that means that he doesn't...
Lash Dresden September 4th, 2007, 8:25 pm Someone asked Jo that in one of her interviews & she said that Harry does give b-day & Christmas gifts to his friends, it's just not been mentioned on page.
Sirius_Bakk September 4th, 2007, 11:24 pm Where is Crookshanck in book7? Is he in Australia too? :D
kala_way September 4th, 2007, 11:40 pm Where is Crookshanck in book7? Is he in Australia too? :D
Actually, I wouldn't doubt that! She knows that he is a very smart cat and would do all he could to protect them if the need arose.
Tenshi September 4th, 2007, 11:46 pm Crookshanks appeared in the book and was in the Burrow with the trio.
The room was just as messy as it had been all week; the only change was that Hermione was now sitting in the far corner, her fluffy ginger cat Crookshanks at her feet, sorting books, some of which Harry recognised as his own, into two enormous piles.
40_socks September 5th, 2007, 12:05 am Can an ADD person apparate?
mariebeth83 September 5th, 2007, 1:15 am Can an ADD person apparate?
Sorry...but what is an ADD person??? :) haven't heard of that one before
LudwigVan September 5th, 2007, 2:19 am Crookshanks appeared in the book and was in the Burrow with the trio.
The room was just as messy as it had been all week; the only change was that Hermione was now sitting in the far corner, her fluffy ginger cat Crookshanks at her feet, sorting books, some of which Harry recognised as his own, into two enormous piles.
Nice quote, didn't remembered it. What happend to Crookshanks after the trio left? There were a lot of hints throughtout the books that the cat was very smart and helpful a lot of times, why didn't Crookshanks go fetch Hermione.
witchsmart September 5th, 2007, 2:21 am LudwigVan:
Nice quote, didn't remembered it. What happend to Crookshanks after the trio left? There were a lot of hints throughtout the books that the cat was very smart and helpful a lot of times, why didn't Crookshanks go fetch Hermione.
Maybe he stayed at the burrow with the Weasleys, and realized what was going on, so didn't try to find Hermione.
Chris September 5th, 2007, 2:33 am Can an ADD person apparate?
An attention-deficit-disorder person may not have the deliberation required to apparate. But, the topic of mental disorders in the wizarding world has not been broached by JK, to my knowledge. So, I can't really provide a better answer than that.
LudwigVan September 5th, 2007, 2:51 am Don't you find it rather stupid of Voldemort to put Harry's blood into his? I mean, he did that in order to be able to touch Harry (or was it the only way to regenerate his body?). And why would he wanted to touch Harry anyway?! you don't have to touch him to kill him. I would have though of what really did Lily's sarifice rather than go and take the "poisoned" blood of Harry before being entirely aware of it's protection.
mariebeth83 September 5th, 2007, 2:55 am Don't you find it rather stupid of Voldemort to put Harry's blood into his? I mean, he did that in order to be able to touch Harry (or was it the only way to regenerate his body?). And why would he wanted to touch Harry anyway?! you don't have to touch him to kill him. I would have though of what really did Lily's sarifice rather than go and take the "poisoned" blood of Harry before being entirely aware of it's protection.
I think that he used Harry's blood to regenerate him as more of a symbol that he was using the blood of the boy who had basically vaporised him as a baby in order to regain his body, or something resembling his body anyway. I don't think that it was the only way to regenerate his body, but it was more symbolic for Voldemort to use Harry's blood rather than some random person. I can't remember the exact words of Pettigrews spell but i think that it also had to be unwillingly taken, so I don't think a death eater would have been used for it.
Voldemort never became aware of the protection's significance. He obviously knew about it but because he didn't really understand it he didn't realise that the protection would stay alive in him. That was really his downfall in a way - he just never knew or understood love.
HedwigOwl September 5th, 2007, 6:24 am Don't you find it rather stupid of Voldemort to put Harry's blood into his? I mean, he did that in order to be able to touch Harry (or was it the only way to regenerate his body?). And why would he wanted to touch Harry anyway?! you don't have to touch him to kill him. I would have though of what really did Lily's sarifice rather than go and take the "poisoned" blood of Harry before being entirely aware of it's protection.
Yes, that was stupid and arrogant of Voldemort. To answer your question, Voldemort could have used any enemy wizard's blood to regenerate his new body. He thought he could cancel the effect of Lily's protection by using Harry's blood. Just goes to show how wrong a person can be....:lol:
Roonil_Wazlib_ September 5th, 2007, 6:28 am He punished Fred to be certain. Maybe he laid a curse on them so that they would suffer their worst nightmare, being forever separated from each other. :upset:
I don't think Voldemort would realize George would suffer more being alive. Remember, he thinks there is nothing worse than death.
I'm thinking of writing a new fanfic about the Marauders and everything, and obviously we all know that James' parents died, but does anyone know what their names were?:)
Newt and Theo. In my fanfic anyway :)
LoonyMagic September 5th, 2007, 4:55 pm Don't you find it rather stupid of Voldemort to put Harry's blood into his? I mean, he did that in order to be able to touch Harry (or was it the only way to regenerate his body?). And why would he wanted to touch Harry anyway?! you don't have to touch him to kill him. I would have though of what really did Lily's sarifice rather than go and take the "poisoned" blood of Harry before being entirely aware of it's protection.
Voldemort has a need to irradicate any weakness he has. The fact that he couldn't touch Harry (even though he didn't need to) made him feel weak and he felt like he needed to do it. Another one of Voldemort's mistakes.
MrsPadfoot07 September 5th, 2007, 5:50 pm I didnt know where to put this question so i put it here anyways, I know that he is a werewolf but is he a wizard/werewolf like Lupin or is he just a stright out vicious werewolf? i can't recall it ever being said in the books.
Sorry if this is an obviously stupid question!:err:
EverLore September 5th, 2007, 6:19 pm I didnt know where to put this question so i put it here anyways, I know that he is a werewolf but is he a wizard/werewolf like Lupin or is he just a stright out vicious werewolf? i can't recall it ever being said in the books.
Sorry if this is an obviously stupid question!:err:
I'm sorry, but who are you referring to? You seemed to have forgotten to mention it in your post :)
Unrepentant September 5th, 2007, 6:37 pm Puttycat13 their names are confoirmed by JKR as Charlus and Dorea ^^
LudwigVan September 5th, 2007, 7:06 pm I didnt know where to put this question so i put it here anyways, I know that he is a werewolf but is he a wizard/werewolf like Lupin or is he just a stright out vicious werewolf? i can't recall it ever being said in the books.
Greyback was indeed a warewolf. In OotP Lupin said Fenrir was the one who bit him when he was a child.
Aliena September 5th, 2007, 7:25 pm I think the question is more, what was he before he was bitten, a wizard or a Muggle? I can't remember offhand if we've seen him with a wand; I'm kind of thinking he did have one in Malfoy Manor, in which case we would know he is a wizard underneath the werewolf. ;)
Tenshi September 5th, 2007, 7:32 pm I think the question is more, what was he before he was bitten, a wizard or a Muggle? I can't remember offhand if we've seen him with a wand; I'm kind of thinking he did have one in Malfoy Manor, in which case we would know he is a wizard underneath the werewolf. ;)
He's a wizard. In DH he's holding a wand and apparates. :)
Aliena September 5th, 2007, 7:36 pm Oh, right, forgot about the Apparition. Thanks! :)
dancer7 September 5th, 2007, 7:45 pm This has been discussed, so I apologize, but I still don't quite understand.
Can someone please explain where Harry was when he was in that sort of limbo? and why he was able to choose to stay dead or come back? It really just confuses me and I have no clue what was going on. Sorry, this probably makes me sound pretty dumb.:shrug:
im sorry, i didnt understand any of that chapter. what was the thing under the bench? i don't believe any of it was in harrys head? why couldnt they help the thing under the bench? also in the next chapter when harry is supposedly dead, why does narcissa turn so nice? and how did she know that harry was really alive?
dont feel bad emily
Aliena September 5th, 2007, 7:55 pm where Harry was when he was in that sort of limbo?
He was in limbo, really, between life and death (JKR has said that you can make up your own mind about it, but that's where she thinks he was).
why he was able to choose to stay dead or come back?
Voldemort used Harry's blood, which contained Lily's sacrifice, to regenerate his body in GOF. Because of Lily's "Voldemort can't kill Harry" sacrifice running in both of their bodies, so long as Voldemort was alive, Harry was tethered to life (in a sense, Voldemort was similar to a Horcrux for Harry - but a much kinder, gentler Horcrux ;) ). This tether allowed Harry to choose to return, or to go on.
what was the thing under the bench?
It was what was left of Voldemort's soul. (There is some disagreement about that, check out the "Flayed Baby" thread for different points of view.)
i don't believe any of it was in harrys head?
I think it was in Harry's head just as much as any near-death experience is in the person's head.
why couldnt they help the thing under the bench?
The only hope for Voldemort was to feel true remorse - Hermione talks about it when she explains how to get rid of Horcruxes, and then Harry offers Voldemort the chance when they're circling each other at the end.
also in the next chapter when harry is supposedly dead, why does narcissa turn so nice? and how did she know that harry was really alive?
She knew Harry was alive because she felt his heart beating; she didn't actually turn nice, she just knew the only way she'd get to the castle to find her son was as part of a "victorious army" and so she lied to Voldemort for the chance to save Draco.
dancer7 September 5th, 2007, 8:12 pm It only just occurred to me, that Ron and Hermione's birthdays are never included in the books? I think it was mentioned that Hermione's birthday was in September, and I'm sure there was a brief mention of Ron's birthday somewhere as well. But to my recollection, nowhere is there a scene involving their birthdays.
Does anyone else think it would have been interesting to have a scene/s involving Ron and Hermione's birthday celebrations? No doubt Rowling did not include this because it wasn't relevant to the main plot, but I reckon she could have made it relevant to the main plot, if she had created some events around Ron/Hermione's birthday...it just seemed to me like quite a significant absence, seeing as Ron and Hermione are two of the three main characters in the series.
i dont believe theyre mentioned in the books but i found out somewhere that rons birthday is march first and hermiones is september 19
oh and thanks aliena
MrsPadfoot07 September 5th, 2007, 9:08 pm I'm sorry, but who are you referring to? You seemed to have forgotten to mention it in your post :)
Finir Greyback
cantabrigian September 5th, 2007, 9:25 pm When the teachers fight Snape and he jumps out of a window, we see that he is flying away as a bat. Does this mean that he is an illegal animagus or is he a registered animagus but we never found out. Or did he just transfigure himself. Share your toughts.
I don't think he's an Animagus. He isn't described as having turned into a bat, just as looking "bat-like" as he normally does in his black cloak. McGonagall makes a comment insinuating that he learned the trick from Voldemort, but my pet theory is that he learned it from Lily. Lily is described as doing exactly the same thing, flying unsupported, in the first memory we see of her from Snape:
“But the girl had let go of the swing at the very height of its arc and flown into the air, quite literally flown, launched herself skyward with a great shout of laughter, and instead of crumpling on the playground asphalt, she soared like a trapeze artist through the air, staying up far too long, landing far too lightly.” (DH 663 in U.S. edition)
Voldemort can fly and so can Snape. It must be some sort of a flying charm or something. I don't think either of them become animaguses in order to fly. Harry sees Voldemort flying through the air as himself, not as a creature like a bat. And someone makes a comment that Snape can do it, too.
In what book and chapter does Harry see Voldemort flying? I just don't remember it. Thanks!
BurrowGhoul September 5th, 2007, 9:51 pm There's a scene for Ron's birthday in HBP when he comes of age. Mr. and Mrs. Weasley send him a new watch, which Mrs. Weasley brings up later when she tells Harry his birthday watch isn't new like Ron's. I believe it's also the scene where Ron eats the chocolate cauldrons filled with love potion.
Hermione mentions in PoA too, I think, that the money she uses top buy Crookshanks is a birthday present. So it's not mentioned directly, but it's there.
But you're right, most of the time, their birthdays aren't mentioned at all. I gues it's just a matter of Harry's point of view like so many other things in the series.
i dont believe theyre mentioned in the books but i found out somewhere that rons birthday is march first and hermiones is september 19
oh and thanks aliena
Just letting you know that hermy answered the question a page or so ago. :)
final September 5th, 2007, 10:08 pm can somebody explain prefects? so if ron and hermione in 6th yr there r 2 new 5th yr prefects? so 6 per house?
cantabrigian September 5th, 2007, 10:11 pm Merlin is on a chocolate frog card in the first book, so I assume that he is a wizard.
J. K. Rowling combines a few legends and historical figures with her own characters—Merlin was the wizard who advised King Arthur in the legend. Ptolemy was a Greek astronomer. Nicholas Flamel was a French alchemist in the 14th century who was reputedly searching for the Philosopher's Stone, and he had a wife named Perenelle.
Redhart September 5th, 2007, 10:18 pm An attention-deficit-disorder person may not have the deliberation required to apparate. But, the topic of mental disorders in the wizarding world has not been broached by JK, to my knowledge. So, I can't really provide a better answer than that.
I wouldn't say that JKR hasn't broached the subject. In interviews she's referred to Voldemort as a psychopath several times! In the book, we have Professor Trelawny's inferred alcoholism and Professor Lockhart locked up in St. Mungo's with amnesia (not to mention poor Neville's parents in the same ward).
What I would suspect is that a witch or wizard might run a real danger of becoming splinched with this condition (depending on the severity). Since there are many other methods of transport, a witch or wizard with ADD might simply travel another way. It has been mentioned in the books that not all magicals travel by apparition. Some choose not to use this mode of travel at all.
LoveWeasleys September 5th, 2007, 10:31 pm can somebody explain prefects? so if ron and hermione in 6th yr there r 2 new 5th yr prefects? so 6 per house?
I think and I may stand corrected that:
there are 5th and 6th year Prefects
and 7th year Head Boy and Girl
or
There a 5th, 6th, and 7th year prefects
and one Head Boy and one Head girl for the whole school...
I will search the Lexicon and see if I can find a better answer :D
Lisa_Turpin September 5th, 2007, 10:42 pm There a 5th, 6th, and 7th year prefects
and one Head Boy and one Head girl for the whole school...
I will search the Lexicon and see if I can find a better answer :D
I think there must be two prefects for each year per House, and two 7th years are chosen as Head Girl and Head Boy. Since the Head Boy and Girl don't have to be chosen from the Prefects (as evidenced by James's appointment to the position), it doesn't make sense that all of a sudden, when a Prefect reaches 7th year, he or she loses the position and privileges. I would think then that there are 8 Prefects a year, making at a minimum 22 Prefects for the entire school and a maximum of 24 (if the Head Boy and Girl are not already Prefects.)
I also checked the Lexicon and couldn't find any articles regarding the subject of Prefects so I guess everything is just speculation now. :)
horcrux4 September 5th, 2007, 11:27 pm In what book and chapter does Harry see Voldemort flying? I just don't remember it. Thanks!
Harry sees Voldemort flying when he comes after him when Harry is escaping with Hagrid on the motorbike from Privet Drive. Other Order members saw him flying on that occasion too.
And then Harry saw him. Voldemort was flying like smoke on the wind, without broomstick or Thestral to hold him, his snake-like face gleaming out of the blackness, his white fingers raising his wand again-
cantabrigian September 6th, 2007, 12:55 am Harry sees Voldemort flying when he comes after him when Harry is escaping with Hagrid on the motorbike from Privet Drive. Other Order members saw him flying on that occasion too.
And then Harry saw him. Voldemort was flying like smoke on the wind, without broomstick or Thestral to hold him, his snake-like face gleaming out of the blackness, his white fingers raising his wand again-
Ah, thanks!
So now we've seen three people who are able to do that: Voldemort, Lily, and Snape.
BurrowGhoul September 6th, 2007, 1:11 am Ah, thanks!
So now we've seen three people who are able to do that: Voldemort, Lily, and Snape.I don't think Lily and Snape can actually fly in the same manner that Voldemort can. Voldemort could fly great distances through the air. Snape merely gave the appearance of flight, and Lily was able to retard gravity enough to float softly to the ground, probably similar to what Dumbledore did with Harry when he had fallen from his broom in the Quidditch match.
GodricHollow September 6th, 2007, 1:38 am Or it could be a simple manifestation of a levitation charm akin to Tom's use of magic (just less violent obviously).
Grotfang September 6th, 2007, 11:59 am Ah, thanks!
So now we've seen three people who are able to do that: Voldemort, Lily, and Snape.
Actually, we have seen four people do it. Voldemort, Lily, Snape and Harry.
PS/SS
Dudley's gang had been chasing him as usual when, as much to Harry's surprise as anyone else's, there he was sitting on the chimney... Harry supposed the wind must have caught him in mid-jump.
LoonyMagic September 6th, 2007, 12:15 pm Actually, we have seen four people do it. Voldemort, Lily, Snape and Harry.
Oh my goodness yes! Thanks for the quote...But then if Harry has shown the ability to fly, albeit not on purpose, then why is it such a big thing to be able to fly? If any young witch or wizard can do it by mistake...or is it just that a young wizard doesn't have control over their magical abilities so things like that can happen?
unconvinced September 6th, 2007, 12:15 pm Actually, we have seen four people do it. Voldemort, Lily, Snape and Harry.
In Harry's case it may just have been apparition rather than flying
Grotfang September 6th, 2007, 12:25 pm I've actually talked about something similar before. There's nothing in canon to evidence this, but IMO magic and imagination run hand in hand. We know that with spells you have to intend the result for it to occur (eg. apparition, Unforgivable Curses, silent spells, etc) so perhaps the main reason most wizards (when adult) cannot fly is because they lack the power of imagination to truly manage it. Lily does it because she intends to fly and sees it as possible. Harry does it because it allows him to escape (fear can be a good motivator). However, it is not beyond all possibilty that another wizard has found the secret in the past and recorded it. LV is well versed in magic, especially long forgotten magic and dark arts and I'm fairly sure flying will have had a stigma of evil attached to it for some time. I can picture him discovering how to fly in some dusty tome somewhere (probably fairly dark and damp).
I think any wizard COULD fly. It is just very hard and not commonly known or regarded in a positive light. Plus, it wouldn't be too good for secrecy, would it?
FirstConsul September 6th, 2007, 4:18 pm In Book 2, Harry lands in Borgins and Burkes via Floo network.
Uh I thought the Dark Arts were a specialized field... why would Borgins be connected to the Floo network? I mean the old man didn't even notice that Harry got into his shop! There could even be spies worming stuff out of Borgins...
I've actually talked about something similar before. There's nothing in canon to evidence this, but IMO magic and imagination run hand in hand. We know that with spells you have to intend the result for it to occur (eg. apparition, Unforgivable Curses, silent spells, etc) so perhaps the main reason most wizards (when adult) cannot fly is because they lack the power of imagination to truly manage it. Lily does it because she intends to fly and sees it as possible. Harry does it because it allows him to escape (fear can be a good motivator). However, it is not beyond all possibilty that another wizard has found the secret in the past and recorded it. LV is well versed in magic, especially long forgotten magic and dark arts and I'm fairly sure flying will have had a stigma of evil attached to it for some time. I can picture him discovering how to fly in some dusty tome somewhere (probably fairly dark and damp).
I think any wizard COULD fly. It is just very hard and not commonly known or regarded in a positive light. Plus, it wouldn't be too good for secrecy, would it?
IMO, magic also has to do with perceptions. Like Serpentsortia and avis conjuring animals, when you say finite, it becomes smoke.
"Gasping for breath she pulled a large clothes brush out of her
bag and began sweeping off the soot Hagrid hadn't managed to
beat away."
Excuse me? Is Mrs Weasley a witch or not?
:D
"The crowd cheered and clapped and Harry found himself being
presented with the entire works of Gilderoy Lockhart. Staggering
slightly under their weight, he managed to make his way out of the
limelight to the edge of the room, where Ginny was standing next to
her new cauldron."
How big are these cauldrons? I mean, 20 students carrying cauldrons the size of bathtubs into Snape's class? What are they gonna do? Wash his hair with shampoo?:D
Lisa_Turpin September 6th, 2007, 4:43 pm In Harry's case it may just have been apparition rather than flying
You cannot Apparate without a wand, as we find out in DH. You must have a wand on your person to be able to Apparate properly.
Harry's instance of flying may have been some kind of spell that allows a person to repulse gravity, sort of like a magnet. (Though there is no canon to support this. :))
In Book 2, Harry lands in Borgins and Burkes via Floo network.
Uh I thought the Dark Arts were a specialized field... why would Borgins be connected to the Floo network? I mean the old man didn't even notice that Harry got into his shop! There could even be spies worming stuff out of Borgins...
I think most magical dwellings and businesses are connected to the Floo Network so that people who can't Apparate can still reach them by an efficient magical means of transportation.
"Gasping for breath she pulled a large clothes brush out of her
bag and began sweeping off the soot Hagrid hadn't managed to
beat away."
Excuse me? Is Mrs Weasley a witch or not?
As Mrs. Weasley points out to Fred and George in OotP, one doesn't need to use magic for every little thing. Perhaps it was easier to use the clothes brush than to try and find every bit of dirt on him so that she could eliminate it with her wand.
"The crowd cheered and clapped and Harry found himself being
presented with the entire works of Gilderoy Lockhart. Staggering
slightly under their weight, he managed to make his way out of the
limelight to the edge of the room, where Ginny was standing next to
her new cauldron."
How big are these cauldrons? I mean, 20 students carrying cauldrons the size of bathtubs into Snape's class? What are they gonna do? Wash his hair with shampoo?:D
I was under the impression that they probably had a storage room for the cauldrons in the dungeons somewhere. I can't think of any instance where it is mentioned that the students actually transport their cauldrons from their dormitories to the dungeons. Also, there were something like 6 or 7 books on the list Lockhart assigned them, correct? A cauldron would not have to be extremely large to fit that many books into it.
Fleur_DW September 6th, 2007, 4:45 pm Sorry if someone already asked... I didn't found my answer in the Frequently Asked Harry Potter Questions, so, here is my question :
How many students are in Hogwart? (all years and all houses together)
FirstConsul September 6th, 2007, 4:49 pm ""They were over the lake - the castle was right ahead - Ron
put his foot down.
There was a loud clunk, a splutter, and the engine died com
pletely."
Was this more due to the protective spells around Hogwarts as we would see in HBP when DD and Potter-boy flew from the cave toward Hogwarts?
"Harry well remembered putting it on,
exactly one year ago, and waiting, petrified, for its decision as it
muttered aloud in his ear. For a few horrible seconds he had feared
that the hat was going to put him in Slytherin, the house that had
turned out more Dark witches and wizards than any other -but"
In PS/SS however, Hagrid said, "there wasn't a wizard that went bad that was in Slytherin"
So... do Dark wizards come from other houses?
Lisa_Turpin September 6th, 2007, 4:58 pm How many students are in Hogwart? (all years and all houses together)
There has been much contention to the actual number of students in Hogwarts. The Lexicon offers an article here (http://www.hp-lexicon.org/essays/essay-hogwarts-how-many.html) about their reasons for a given number, which is around 280.
However, this number does not mesh with what we have been told by JKR:
Question: How many students attend Hogwarts, and how many students per year per house?
J.K. Rowling responds: There are about a thousand students at Hogwarts.
unconvinced September 6th, 2007, 5:06 pm Was this more due to the protective spells around Hogwarts as we would see in HBP when DD and Potter-boy flew from the cave toward Hogwarts?
Perhaps, I thought those spells were put on by Dumbledore as part of the extra security but you could be right.
LudwigVan September 6th, 2007, 5:51 pm I have a question. When Harry and Hermione narrowly scaped Voldemort in Godric's Hollow, why did Voldemort rememberd (SO vividly) when he killed the potters?
FirstConsul September 6th, 2007, 7:12 pm "If I ever find out who threw this," Snape whispered, "I shall make
sure that person is expelled."
Harry arranged his face into what he hoped was a puzzled
expression. Snape was looking right at him, and the bell that rang ten
minutes later could not have been more welcome.
"He knew it was me," Harry told Ron and Hermione as they hurried
back to Moaning Myrtle's bathroom. "I could tell."
From CoS.
Why didn't Snape expel Harry even if he probably coulda used Veritaserum?
GodricHollow September 6th, 2007, 8:16 pm I have a question. When Harry and Hermione narrowly scaped Voldemort in Godric's Hollow, why did Voldemort rememberd (SO vividly) when he killed the potters?
Because that kind of thing can happen. A certain word or place or event can trigger memories that one has forgotten. Voldemort hadn't been back sine his last demise, so he was probably remembering his last visit.
LoveWeasleys September 6th, 2007, 9:07 pm Because that kind of thing can happen. A certain word or place or event can trigger memories that one has forgotten. Voldemort hadn't been back sine his last demise, so he was probably remembering his last visit.
Exactly. Also I am pretty sure it mentions Voldy seeing the house that the Potter's lived in. That paired with the fact that Harry had just escaped him...again, brought back the memories of that night.
Also, it was a good literary time to show the reader the events that unfolded at the Potter's house the night James and Lily were killed.
"If I ever find out who threw this," Snape whispered, "I shall make
sure that person is expelled."
Harry arranged his face into what he hoped was a puzzled
expression. Snape was looking right at him, and the bell that rang ten
minutes later could not have been more welcome.
"He knew it was me," Harry told Ron and Hermione as they hurried
back to Moaning Myrtle's bathroom. "I could tell."
From CoS.
Why didn't Snape expel Harry even if he probably coulda used Veritaserum?
It was an empty threat. We know that Snape was working to protect Harry, however he also wasn't going to sit back and watch Harry walk all over him or get away with something.
Also, Snape does not have the power to expell Harry only McGonagal and Dumbledore do.
horcrux4 September 6th, 2007, 9:13 pm "If I ever find out who threw this," Snape whispered, "I shall make
sure that person is expelled."
Harry arranged his face into what he hoped was a puzzled
expression. Snape was looking right at him, and the bell that rang ten
minutes later could not have been more welcome.
"He knew it was me," Harry told Ron and Hermione as they hurried
back to Moaning Myrtle's bathroom. "I could tell."
From CoS.
Why didn't Snape expel Harry even if he probably coulda used Veritaserum?
"Knowing" isn't the same as proving, and I doubt Dumbledore would expel any student just because a teacher "knew" he had done something wrong. And I've a feeling that a teacher who used Veritaserum on a student wouldn't be popular with Dumbledore either. Umbridge is the only one I can remember doing it.
Anyway I shouldn't think any teacher could expel a student him/herself - that's down to the Headmaster, surely. And Dumbledore wouldn't let Harry go, which Snape must have known.
LoveWeasleys September 6th, 2007, 9:14 pm So... do Dark wizards come from other houses?
Yes. Peter Pettigrew is a perfect example of this...he was a Gryffindor. More often than not they are Slytherin though, simply because of the connections the house holds.
final September 6th, 2007, 9:38 pm I think there must be two prefects for each year per House, and two 7th years are chosen as Head Girl and Head Boy. Since the Head Boy and Girl don't have to be chosen from the Prefects (as evidenced by James's appointment to the position), it doesn't make sense that all of a sudden, when a Prefect reaches 7th year, he or she loses the position and privileges. I would think then that there are 8 Prefects a year, making at a minimum 22 Prefects for the entire school and a maximum of 24 (if the Head Boy and Girl are not already Prefects.)
I also checked the Lexicon and couldn't find any articles regarding the subject of Prefects so I guess everything is just speculation now. :)
woah james is a head boy?? u mean harry's dad? when??
BurrowGhoul September 6th, 2007, 9:40 pm woah james is a head boy?? u mean harry's dad? when??Hagrid says it in Harry's first year. Says James and Lily were Head Boy and Head Girl.
reneerox14 September 6th, 2007, 10:04 pm It's not mentioned in the story, just on the crest in the beginning of the books. :)
On all the books bacause I cant find it written? I sound so stupid but wheres the crest?:err:
Tenshi September 6th, 2007, 10:06 pm On all the books bacause I cant find it written? I sound so stupid but wheres the crest?:err:
It's in the beginning of the books, on the first pages. At least in the British editions.
reneerox14 September 6th, 2007, 10:37 pm Ohhh! Thats why; I dont think its on the American edition! I wish it was though.
I have a question and its probably the most stupidiest question ever but how and why did the curse backfire on Voldemort. I didn't think there was any protection on him now so what happened?
Sesshoumaru September 7th, 2007, 1:00 am Ohhh! Thats why; I dont think its on the American edition! I wish it was though.
I have a question and its probably the most stupidiest question ever but how and why did the curse backfire on Voldemort. I didn't think there was any protection on him now so what happened?
I assume you're talking about the final battle backfire?
Basically it's because Voldemort wasn't the master of the Elder Wand - And Harry was...Somehow the Elder Wand recognized Harry as its master and it would not allow it's master to be killed, so the spell was rebounded back at the caster (Voldemort)
Colin_Reilly September 7th, 2007, 2:27 am well i dont know if anyone else caught this or posted about it but here goes.
when harry goes to his parents house in godrics hollow it says his parent died in 1981 but in book 2 i remember mention of a playstation and since it was 1992 it would have been impossible cuz playstations didnt exist in europe until 1995
wierd huh
jammi567 September 7th, 2007, 11:38 am well i dont know if anyone else caught this or posted about it but here goes.
when harry goes to his parents house in godrics hollow it says his parent died in 1981 but in book 2 i remember mention of a playstation and since it was 1992 it would have been impossible cuz playstations didnt exist in europe until 1995
wierd huh
i think you mean in book 4. And i think the PlayStation was out in Japan by 1994, so it's possible that Vernon had one imported from there if Dudley heard about it and wanted one that early, because he can.
NRHP September 7th, 2007, 2:19 pm i think you mean in book 4. And i think the PlayStation was out in Japan by 1994, so it's possible that Vernon had one imported from there if Dudley heard about it and wanted one that early, because he can.
However, I have never heard of a game called Mega Mutilation Part III... though it probably describes Dudley's character very well. :lol:
lily23 September 7th, 2007, 2:28 pm Hi guys. I'm re-reading sorcerer's stone, and I have a continuity question already. In the first chapter, vernon sees wizards celebrating, and hears one say "you-know-who has gone at last". There were owls and fireworks, this happens all day. That evening, Dumbledore tells McGonagal that Lily and James are dead and Harry has survived and Voldemort seems to be gone. Then Hagrid shows up with Harry on Sirius's bike. So, since vernon saw everybody celebrating all day, I'm assuming voldemort murdered the Potter's the night before. So my question is, what happened during that twenty four hours? Was baby Harry sitting in the wreckage of his house all that time until Hagrid came to get him? Hagrid tells him later that he pulled Harry out of the wreckage himself and brought him to the Dursely's. And how did anybody know what happened? We see in DH that there were no witnesses. How does anyone know that Voldemort killed James and Lily and tried and failed to kill Harry, and that Voldemort is now "gone"? No one was there to see it, yet every wizard knows the next day that that is what happened. How?
Picko September 7th, 2007, 2:31 pm In PS/SS however, Hagrid said, "there wasn't a wizard that went bad that was in Slytherin"
So... do Dark wizards come from other houses?
We already know they do because we've seen Wormtail. Ultimately Hagrid over-exaggerated.
Hi guys. I'm re-reading sorcerer's stone, and I have a continuity question already. In the first chapter, vernon sees wizards celebrating, and hears one say "you-know-who has gone at last". There were owls and fireworks, this happens all day. That evening, Dumbledore tells McGonagal that Lily and James are dead and Harry has survived and Voldemort seems to be gone. Then Hagrid shows up with Harry on Sirius's bike. So, since vernon saw everybody celebrating all day, I'm assuming voldemort murdered the Potter's the night before. So my question is, what happened during that twenty four hours? Was baby Harry sitting in the wreckage of his house all that time until Hagrid came to get him? Hagrid tells him later that he pulled Harry out of the wreckage himself and brought him to the Dursely's. And how did anybody know what happened? We see in DH that there were no witnesses. How does anyone know that Voldemort killed James and Lily and tried and failed to kill Harry, and that Voldemort is now "gone"? No one was there to see it, yet every wizard knows the next day that that is what happened. How?
You may like to check this thread here (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=110177&highlight=missing) which might be able to help you :)
LoonyMagic September 7th, 2007, 2:37 pm Hi guys. I'm re-reading sorcerer's stone, and I have a continuity question already. In the first chapter, vernon sees wizards celebrating, and hears one say "you-know-who has gone at last". There were owls and fireworks, this happens all day. That evening, Dumbledore tells McGonagal that Lily and James are dead and Harry has survived and Voldemort seems to be gone. Then Hagrid shows up with Harry on Sirius's bike. So, since vernon saw everybody celebrating all day, I'm assuming voldemort murdered the Potter's the night before. So my question is, what happened during that twenty four hours? Was baby Harry sitting in the wreckage of his house all that time until Hagrid came to get him? Hagrid tells him later that he pulled Harry out of the wreckage himself and brought him to the Dursely's. And how did anybody know what happened? We see in DH that there were no witnesses. How does anyone know that Voldemort killed James and Lily and tried and failed to kill Harry, and that Voldemort is now "gone"? No one was there to see it, yet every wizard knows the next day that that is what happened. How?
We cannot be sure. Here is a thread that may interest you. What Happened To The Missing Day? (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=110177&highlight=missing+day)
FirstConsul September 7th, 2007, 3:05 pm "He disappeared after leaving the school ... traveled far and wide ... sank
so deeply into the Dark Arts, consorted with the very worst of our
kind, underwent so many dangerous, magical transformations, that
when he resurfaced as Lord Voldemort, he was barely recognizable.
Hardly anyone connected Lord Voldemort with the clever,
handsome boy who was once Head Boy here.""
CoS
So..does this mean Voldemort had a mentor? How can he be the greatest sorcerer if he had plenty of mentors?"worst of our kind"
Grotfang September 7th, 2007, 3:27 pm So..does this mean Voldemort had a mentor? How can he be the greatest sorcerer if he had plenty of mentors?"worst of our kind"
I doubt he had a single mentor. I see it more as LV went on a quest for knowledge, and in doing so learnt a series of evil processes and long-lost Dark Lore from a variety of dark wizards. Sort of like a consolidation of knowledge (but with perhaps a little more death and destruction than that which would normally be recommended).
Worst of our kind... probably refers to the sort of people who actually want to take time out of their busy lives to learn/dabble in the sorts of magic that Voldy was passionate about. I can't see anyone in the Order looking at those individuals in a favourable light :D
Susan_Black September 7th, 2007, 3:55 pm Probably has been asked before, but it's been doing my head in. WHO performed magic later in life unexpectedly? I've read and re-read DH about 17 times now, and I still can't figure it out! All I can think of is Aberforth, but even that's a shaky one. It's never said that he's a squib or anything, Dumbledore just says that he's not sure he can read. Other than that, I can only assume that JKR removed that event. It's really annoying me now!
LoonyMagic September 7th, 2007, 4:06 pm Probably has been asked before, but it's been doing my head in. WHO performed magic later in life unexpectedly? I've read and re-read DH about 17 times now, and I still can't figure it out! All I can think of is Aberforth, but even that's a shaky one. It's never said that he's a squib or anything, Dumbledore just says that he's not sure he can read. Other than that, I can only assume that JKR removed that event. It's really annoying me now!
This was answered in JKR's Live Web Chat :D
Snapedinhalf: You promised that someone will do magic late in life in book 7. I've now read it three times but cant work out who it might have been! Please help!!
J.K. Rowling: I'm sorry about this, but I changed my mind!
J.K. Rowling: My very earliest plan for the story involved somebody managing to get to Hogwarts when they had never done magic before, but I had changed my mind by the time I'd written the third book.
Hope that helped :)
Linuxman September 7th, 2007, 4:12 pm J.k stated in an interview that she had indeed said someone would come to Hogwarts later in life but recently she retracted and stated she wasn't able to fit that in.
Susan_Black September 7th, 2007, 4:20 pm That was going to be Petunia? I'm just guessing. She must have decided against that years ago though, or she wouldn't have been so anti-magic. Argh, it just throws up even more questions! And I still wanna know what Dudley saw when the dementor tried to kiss him. I think we need a post-DH book!
Sesshoumaru September 7th, 2007, 4:22 pm That was going to be Petunia? I'm just guessing. She must have decided against that years ago though, or she wouldn't have been so anti-magic. Argh, it just throws up even more questions! And I still wanna know what Dudley saw when the dementor tried to kiss him. I think we need a post-DH book!
Superhans: What was duldeys worst memory?
J.K. Rowling: I think that when Dudley was attacked by the Dementors he saw himself, for the first time, as he really was. This was an extremely painful, but ultimately salutory lesson, and began the transformation in him.
Source: http://www.accio-quote.org/articles/2007/0730-bloomsbury-chat.html
Linuxman September 7th, 2007, 4:42 pm Why did Harry have to let Voldemort kill him the way he did? In the Kings Cross chapter Dumbledore says it will have made all the difference in the world? I'm not sure I understand why. What would have happened if Harry had tried to fight him, for instance if Snape failed to relay the information before he died.
LoonyMagic September 7th, 2007, 4:47 pm Why did Harry have to let Voldemort kill him the way he did? In the Kings Cross chapter Dumbledore says it will have made all the difference in the world? I'm not sure I understand why. What would have happened if Harry had tried to fight him, for instance if Snape failed to relay the information before he died.
To destroy a Horcrux you have to kill the soul with something unique - which we see with the Basilisk venom as you can't reverse it's effect, with the exception of phoenix tears. Because Harry did something unique - he went to Voldemort and died willingly, he didn't even draw his wand, he allowed himself to die - that was something that could kill the Horcrux within him. There is a fine line between sacrificing yourself with no defences and battling to the death for what you believe in, and what Harry did made all the difference.
Linuxman September 7th, 2007, 5:01 pm To destroy a Horcrux you have to kill the soul with something unique - which we see with the Basilisk venom as you can't reverse it's effect, with the exception of phoenix tears. Because Harry did something unique - he went to Voldemort and died willingly, he didn't even draw his wand, he allowed himself to die - that was something that could kill the Horcrux within him. There is a fine line between sacrificing yourself with no defences and battling to the death for what you believe in, and what Harry did made all the difference.
Thanks! That makes perfect sense!
lily23 September 7th, 2007, 5:31 pm Thanks Picko and Looney Magic!!!
jammi567 September 7th, 2007, 5:40 pm However, I have never heard of a game called Mega Mutilation Part III... though it probably describes Dudley's character very well. :lol:
That's because it is a made up game.
BenSkywalker September 7th, 2007, 9:48 pm I have a small (not so small?) question about Harry's wand regurgitating Voldemort's magic right back at him in the fight in the sky in DH. The flames generated by his wand destroyed Malfoy's wand; later in the story Dumbledore explained that Harry's wand imbibed the skill of Voldemort during their confrontation in GoF.
My question why couldn't it do the same thing in OotP when Voldemort appears before Harry in the Ministry of Magic (right before Dumbledore arrives to fight Voldie). Shouldn't Harry's wand have triggered the flame spell again, this time directed towards Voldie's wand?
Aliena September 7th, 2007, 9:54 pm My question why couldn't it do the same thing in OotP when Voldemort appears before Harry in the Ministry of Magic (right before Dumbledore arrives to fight Voldie). Shouldn't Harry's wand have triggered the flame spell again, this time directed towards Voldie's wand?
Could it have something to do with the fact that in DH, Harry was totally unprepared to defend himself? I don't remember the details of that scene of OOTP, but I'm pretty sure that Harry knew where Voldemort was the whole time (well, before Voldemort started duelling Dumbledore, anyway).
The other explanation may be that in OOTP, Voldemort was using his own wand; maybe the part of Voldemort's skill that was in Harry's wand couldn't work against its original 'self'.
LoonyMagic September 7th, 2007, 10:01 pm I have a small (not so small?) question about Harry's wand regurgitating Voldemort's magic right back at him in the fight in the sky in DH. The flames generated by his wand destroyed Malfoy's wand; later in the story Dumbledore explained that Harry's wand imbibed the skill of Voldemort during their confrontation in GoF.
My question why couldn't it do the same thing in OotP when Voldemort appears before Harry in the Ministry of Magic (right before Dumbledore arrives to fight Voldie). Shouldn't Harry's wand have triggered the flame spell again, this time directed towards Voldie's wand?
I suppose he hadn't been in such close contact with death the first time. When he was confronted by Voldemort in Deathly Hallows they were almost face to face (if I remember rightly). I think the Horcrux inside of him sensed the danger more the second time than the first. That's my only explanation...and it's a pretty rubbish one :shrug:
Sirius_Bakk September 7th, 2007, 11:14 pm Because in the ministry Harry chose not to act :)
It says "He didn't even try to defend himself, he would have reached Sirius..." or something like this.
In DH is fighting.
DeathlyH September 7th, 2007, 11:55 pm Now we finally know what Dumbledore saw in the mirror, and why Aberforth was always unhappy when they were in the Hog's Head!
final September 8th, 2007, 1:45 am Hagrid says it in Harry's first year. Says James and Lily were Head Boy and Head Girl.
can u tell me chapter or page plz? i dont own SS so i took form library but times running out so can someone tell me were it says that?
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