Snakes

flimseycauldron
December 16th, 2007, 10:06 pm
I thought I'd start this topic because our pair of kenyan sand boas just had babies! Kenyans are one of the few species of snakes that bear live young. Actually, what happens is that they have eggs and the eggs hatch inside the female and then she gives birth to the babies. She had twelve babies between six and eight inches long. Two, thus far, have not made it. And three more still have their egg sacks so we are watching them closely. She also pushed out one unfertelized egg. We video taped it all although it ran out the batteries. :lol:

snapegirl
December 16th, 2007, 10:41 pm
Awww snake babies! :love: I don't think I have ever seen a Kenyan boa before.
I have a ball python named Nagini. She's about 3 and a half feet long. Her marking are really cool because they look like skulls.

flimseycauldron
December 16th, 2007, 11:26 pm
Pythons are great because they are not super active when held. They are usually very tame. We have the Kenyans, a six and a half foot albino Honduran milk snake, and two western hognose snakes ( pair) and hopefully they will have babies too.

Colonel_Fubster
December 17th, 2007, 10:40 am
They all sound like such pretty snakes! Can you post some pictures? I'd love to see them. :)

mariebeth83
December 18th, 2007, 3:36 am
Yes! i'd love to see pictures too! I really like snakes, and would love to have my own, except I wouldn't be able to feed them :lol: they either eat insects/spiders or baby mice/rats don't they? I've an irrational fear of insects & spiders and I don't think I'd be able to feed live animals to them!

flimseycauldron
December 18th, 2007, 5:07 am
I'll try to get pics up soon! We have a few baby green snakes and garters (my son mostly catches those in the spring in the spring and are let go after a few days) They mainly eat slugs and crickets (crickets are avilable in most pet shops. They bag'em for you, and all you have to do is dump'em in the tank. They are the only things we feed live because you can't train the smaller snakes to take dead food. The biggers snakes take mice and/or rats which we buy frozen and prepackaged. We simply thaw them out and the snakes will eat them that way. We don't believe in feeding live animals to our snakes. For one things it's not fair to the animal who can't escape and for another it is unsafe for the snakes who could get seriously injured by claws or teeth.

If you are thinking about getting one as a pet pythons are the most common because they are usually very tame, especially if you handle them frequently. The problem with them is that they tend to get pretty big, like snapegirl's. If you have the space for them they are wonderful and will take readily to frozen mice. I really adore our kenyan's as they don't get very long (our female is about three feet) and are really friendly. Our Honduran on the other hand is very friendly but she is HUGE and strong and active. I have lost her in the washing machine, had her escape her tank and take refuge under our stove, and escape her tank and managed to hide in my son's room for over an hour. In other words she is alot of fun to handle but not much fun to chase :lol:
ETA:
This is our female Hognose. Her name is Penelope.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd132/FLIMSEYCAULDRON/john053.jpg

This is our female Kenyan who prepregnancy. Her name is Saturn.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd132/FLIMSEYCAULDRON/john054.jpg

As soon as I get pics of the babies I'll post them.

Colonel_Fubster
December 18th, 2007, 5:35 am
Thank you for the pictures, they're lovely, especially Saturn, she is just gorgeous! :)

snapegirl
December 18th, 2007, 1:45 pm
I think my python can reach around 6 feet one day. I'm not sure how old she is since she was given to me by someone who rescued her. I have never fed her frozen mice, although I have been thinking about trying it. Since I moved several months ago, there isn't a pet store around here that sells live feeder mice and it's getting to be a pain to get them.
Is there any suggestions you might give me, flimseycauldron, on how to ease her into taking frozen? I might pick some up today. And your snakes are very cute!

flimseycauldron
December 18th, 2007, 3:54 pm
Snapegirl, I've always bought my snakes already taking frozen so I'm hardly an expert how to do it but there are a few things that you can try. First make sure that the mouse/rat is thoroughly thawed, room temp is usually good. Then do not feed her in her living tank. Put the mouse and your snake in a totally empty large tank or plastic tote with a secure lid. Basically you want it so that she can't avoid the mouse and that there isn't anything to distract her. If she is hungry enough she should take it (but be careful cuz you don't want her so hungry that she'll bite you out of annoyance or think that your hand is food. Even though pythons are constrictors their bite can really hurt and yours is or will be eventually very big.)

Be patient. Be consistent. She probably won't take the first time, or even the second or third. Just keep offering it to her regularly. She may never take the frozen mouse because she is older. You can teach an old dog new tricks but not snakes. :)
Also their is a great website called kingsnake.com that has forums not only on snakes but other reptiles (and some mammals too)

snapegirl
December 18th, 2007, 5:53 pm
Thanks for the info! I just got some mice, followed the directions on the package and she took it right away! I was surprised. I thought this was going to be a big hassle. She's should a good girl.


(but be careful cuz you don't want her so hungry that she'll bite you out of annoyance or think that your hand is food. Even though pythons are constrictors their bite can really hurt and yours is or will be eventually very big.)
I used some really big tongs to dangle it in front of her.
My poor hubby already learned the hard way that her bite hurts. He tried to pick her up a few months ago, wasn't paying attention to her body language (she thought he had food) and she bit him. I wasn't in the room or I would have told him not to pick her up. But she did look sorry afterwards. :)

Colonel_Fubster
December 19th, 2007, 8:38 am
You can teach an old dog new tricks but not snakes.
That is sooo right! I knew some people who had a 5 meter long Burmese python (17 feet), he was supposed to graduate to eating goat kids, but refused to even try, he insisted on live rabbits. :rolleyes:

mariebeth83
December 19th, 2007, 11:14 am
This is our female Hognose. Her name is Penelope.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd132/FLIMSEYCAULDRON/john053.jpg

This is our female Kenyan who prepregnancy. Her name is Saturn.
http://i222.photobucket.com/albums/dd132/FLIMSEYCAULDRON/john054.jpg

As soon as I get pics of the babies I'll post them.

They're beautiful! I love the pictures :)

Snapegirl77 have you any pictures? It's so cool how you both describe them as more than just snakes, they all seem to have their own character which is so cool :)

snapegirl
December 19th, 2007, 1:22 pm
I might a have a few on the camera. I have to put them on the computer. (and bug my hubby to bring the camera home from work :grumble:)

flimseycauldron
December 19th, 2007, 11:31 pm
That is sooo right! I knew some people who had a 5 meter long Burmese python (17 feet), he was supposed to graduate to eating goat kids, but refused to even try, he insisted on live rabbits.

:err::eeep:

AmeliaPotter
January 22nd, 2008, 5:15 am
Snakes scare the living daylights out of me, but my mum always talks about how my uncle had them. They used to escape into the house all the time, and once she got really angry at him because he fed her mice to them :whistle:

permafrost
January 22nd, 2008, 5:27 am
Sorry if this is uninformed, but i'm sort of curious. How long do most house snakes live? Does food cost a fortune? It seems like buying dead mice or live rabbits would get really expensive, but is it more than, say, cat or dog food?

snapegirl
January 22nd, 2008, 1:40 pm
Sorry if this is uninformed, but i'm sort of curious. How long do most house snakes live? Does food cost a fortune? It seems like buying dead mice or live rabbits would get really expensive, but is it more than, say, cat or dog food?
I'm not sure about all snake pets, but ball pythons ( a popular snake to keep as a pet) can live about 20- 30 years in captivity.

Food isn't that expensive, but I guess it depends on how big the snake is. Bigger mice and rats are more expensive. For my snake, I started buying frozen mice. It's 4 medium mice for $10.00. That lasts about a month. I have 3 cats and spend way more money on food and litter for them. :)

permafrost
January 22nd, 2008, 10:29 pm
Food isn't that expensive, but I guess it depends on how big the snake is. Bigger mice and rats are more expensive. For my snake, I started buying frozen mice. It's 4 medium mice for $10.00. That lasts about a month. I have 3 cats and spend way more money on food and litter for them. :)

Wow, I had no idea a snake eats just 4 mice a month! That must make it cheaper; I thought they ate like 3 mice a day!

Artemis_Fowl_2
June 3rd, 2008, 7:13 pm
I have 3 stuffed snakes - does that count? Okay, not really... But I can't have a real one because they are not allowed in my building. I live near a zoo and check out their snakes from time to time. And I love seeing people's pictures of their snakes!

Pigwijon
September 5th, 2008, 12:44 am
I love snakes! Too bad i can't have one.. too dangerous, with my bunny anyway

DarkLord7
September 6th, 2009, 4:01 am
I love snakes! I have like 8 cornsnakes! And every year I breed them. I love watching the babies poke their heads out [of the egg]. It's so cool!

(The reason I say like 8, is because I'm planning on buying another in the near future.)

Here are all the different color morphs I have:
normal
albino(2)
hypo
ghost
anytheristic
snow
butter

And I'm hoping to get a bloodred. :drool:

DarkLord7
September 21st, 2009, 10:15 pm
I just bought some more. Here is the new list! :)

Here are all the different color morphs I have:
normal
albino(2)
hypo
ghost
anytheristic
snow
butter
motley
albino bloodred
albino striped bloodred
creamsicle
aztec

Wow, I'm so crazy! Ha ha ha! :lol:
I may post some pictures soon.

GavinB
October 10th, 2009, 10:19 am
Do not feed live.

Unnecessarily cruel and potentially dangerous to the snake. I've seen mice decide to fight back, ripping out an eye and scales... it's something you do not want. Snakes will feed pre-killed just fine - there's no risk to the snake and the mousey doesn't have to experience the fear/pain of being stalked and eaten alive. Win-Win.

DarkLord7
October 18th, 2009, 5:24 am
I agree. Also, live mice smell.

It's much easier to feed them dead mice. :tu:

Colonel_Fubster
October 18th, 2009, 6:39 am
I may post some pictures soon.Please do, they sound lovely! :)

DarkLord7
October 18th, 2009, 5:26 pm
Here you go. These pictures don't do them any justice, though. They're much prettier in real life.

http://www.cosforums.com/album.php?albumid=1378

Morning_Star
October 18th, 2009, 11:19 pm
I wouldn't like to have a snake in my house, but I'm actually quite tempted now... As long as it wasn't venomous. :D But I can't have one now anyway, not while I still live with my parents.

MC2456
November 26th, 2009, 3:10 pm
I'm actually...quite...frightened of snakes. I don't know why, but they seem really creepy to me. And I love turtles! (Turtles sometimes look just like snakes. Except for legs and a shell, and they're a hundred percent cuter.) Anyway, I think it's illegal to keep snakes in my country, so, yeah. I'm not allowed to keep it even if I wanted to.

Imzadi
January 6th, 2010, 1:18 am
Many years ago just after my wife and got married we kept snakes, we had a corn snake, a royal python and some garter snakes.

Originally I wanted a spider but my wife was not too keen so I suggested snakes (fully expecting her to say no) and she agreed. The only thing she wanted to know was if I could handle them. I of course said 'yes' not really knowing whethjer I could actually have the bottle to do it. We got the corn snake first. I didn't handle it the first day, 'It had to get used to the shock of moving' was what I said. So, the following day when my wife was at work I tentively handled Rimski (his name) and by my wife returned home Rimski and I became good friends. After that we got more snake and even some anole lizards. Sadly, we had to get rid of them when we moved from England to the Scottish Isles, but I am pleased that we had them for that time, they make fantastic pets.

bassandstuff
July 21st, 2010, 6:14 am
I've always wanted a snake! They're just awesome and amazing. I held one before (can't remember what kind of snake). Loved it! :D

BatSnake
July 28th, 2011, 9:36 pm
I've had a Ball/Royal python for the last five years =3 .
I need to take some pictures of him right now. The only ones I have are from Christmas two years ago, and from when we first got him.
And he's become a big boy since then XD

BlueScarecrow
October 12th, 2011, 11:01 am
I have an albino Corn Snake called Albert. He's about two years old :)

Kathleen Malfoy
October 17th, 2011, 5:50 am
I've always liked snakes but other people I live with won't allow one into the house.