Opinions On: The Kiss

Hi! Now that you've finished, I would like to revisit the BEST ( ;) ) part of the book. ;) ;) So what was your reaction when Cho and Harry locked lips? What would you have done? Do you feel like banging your head on the wall when Harry said "Wet"? What will be the future for Cho and Harry?

I'll answer your last question: no. Maybe they'll become friends and talk once in a while, but nothing more than friends.

I'm sure that's how everyone's feeling... but I can't resist banging my head into my book at how tactless Harry was! I mean: Wet?!?!?! I loved how Ron asked Harry whether he was a good kisser!

I was pretty thrilled when they kissed, since I've wanted Harry and Cho to get together for a long time. I doubt Harry and Cho have any future together since he can't seem to handle her and she now has a new boyfriend.

I don't think they have a future. And I really don't think that we actually witnessed them kiss. I likehow JK cut it off and we only heard about it later. I thought it was pretty funny that Harry could only describe it as wet, because Cho was crying. Cho was way too emotional, I don't see a future for them.

hehehe.....I couldn't stop smiling at that point in the book! It was Harry's first kiss. I actually think I squealed aloud after reading it, which was embarassing.

I thought it was cute. I'm glad JK skipped right from the moment before it happened to the point after it happened, it made it funnier, and more awkward to imagine...if that makes sense.

However...WET?!? *cringe* Cho was crying after all, so I'm hoping the "wetness" is from her tears. I'm glad Harry's growing up.

Yeah, but if it isn't Cho, if Ginny's moved on, and if Hermione was trying to HELP Harry with Cho... Who's gonna end up with Harry? Luna? But in the books Harry never saw her as an object of affection... and I have a knack that Luna is crushing Ron.

And what about their date? Am I the only one who found it... weird... that Harry yelled out "Women!"? Imagine Dan Radcliffe yelling that. *Shivers*

I didn't like the idea of Cho and Harry. Harry doesn't like the fact that she's still hung up on Cedric and Cho doesn't like the fact that he's friends with Hermione. I'm still hoping for a Harry and Ginny thing. And I think Ron's thinking the same thing when he gave Harry that look at the end of the book. I also don't see a future for those two. And if you'll notice... His feelings towards her have changed, she's becoming a thing of the past...

A kiss is meaning less and less to people these days. I'm still thoroughly convinced that Cho was manipulating Harry so that she could find out about Cedric's last few moments. I'll bet she was very disappointed when she found out that even Cedric's shadow cared more about his parents than about her. Good for him.

I don't think Cho's THAT evil. I think Hermione was quite right about her, though. But it seems that she's too caught up in the idea of Cedric, and I think that he means a lot more to Cho than all the other guys.

And completely irrelated: FatalBeauty, is it just me, or has Josh Hartnett plucked his eyebrows??? And doesn't he look like Fonzi from an angle?

So what was your reaction when Cho and Harry locked lips?
I felt an awkward feeling in the pit of my stomach, probably similar to Harry. I knew it was coming but, I don't know. It felt as if I were reading a fanfic. It just didn't seem... official. Sorry that I can't explain it better.

What would you have done?
If I were on what side of the situation?

Do you feel like banging your head on the wall when Harry said "Wet"?
Slightly. I laughed, though.

What will be the future for Cho and Harry?
Absolutely nothing. At least I sure hope not. I don't have anything against Cho, I just never really cared about her much either way. She seems like a waste of Harry's time and emotions. He has more important things to worry about. I think it came off pretty clear that Harry and Cho weren't going anywhere.

Originally posted by Aurora (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=391008#post391008))
Am I the only one who found it... weird... that Harry yelled out "Women!"? Imagine Dan Radcliffe yelling that. *Shivers*


I found that part hilarious! Actually, the whole Harry/Cho romance was just hilarious.

'Between Neville and Ron it didn't look like he was going to have a conversation with Cho that ended with him not wanting to leave the country.' :rotfl:

I don't like Cho at all. Never really did to be quite honest. She's just... strange. I have a feeling about her...

Hmm... Well in the books so far she never did anything quite mean yet. I almost felt sorry for her when she got yelled at from Harry... but then, I felt that she was just an object of affection, and I doubt anything else will happen between them besides exchanging embarrassed glances when they walk past each other. Perhaps they'll make up, but I think that's the most they'll ever do.

It was a bit of a nothing part of the book. The way it happened seemed somewhat un-natural from my point of view. I'm not expecting anything to happen between them in the future books.

Cho is such a hag.
**** her and her stupid friend.
NARK! How could she takes sides with the girl who ratted them all out?
I hope Cho dies in the next book...no, i hope she is bretrayed by her friend.

Whoa... calm down, she is a fictitious character ;) Besides, why is she irritating you so much? After Umbridge and Fudge and all?

At first, I thought Cho and Harry would make a great match, considering they both like Quidditch and everything, but it seemed like Cho was just using Harry as a memorial or something for Cedric. I don't know...it's weird...she just seemed like she wanted Harry because he was the only one that knew about Cedric. And didn't it seem like she came on to Harry just a little bit to fast for it to be a natural crush?

Wet.

*snorts*

Originally posted by winky (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=391059#post391059))
A kiss is meaning less and less to people these days. I'm still thoroughly convinced that Cho was manipulating Harry so that she could find out about Cedric's last few moments. I'll bet she was very disappointed when she found out that even Cedric's shadow cared more about his parents than about her. Good for him.


Feeling a bit cynical? ;D But I see your point, I never liked Harry and Cho either...it seemed too fake to me.

Originally posted by Mini'Grid (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=391230#post391230))
Cho is such a hag.
**** her and her stupid friend.
NARK! How could she takes sides with the girl who ratted them all out?
I hope Cho dies in the next book...no, i hope she is bretrayed by her friend.


:D Hello there, kindred spirit.

I really liked the chapter when Harry and Cho went on a date. It was hilarious!

Now about the kiss, I was a bit shocked! Wait, was it Cho who first kissed Harry or was it the other way around? Anyway, it was really funny especially the "Wet" part. I just wanna kick Harry. He really is worse than Ron.

I believe they don't have a future! Harry says so. He doesn't feel that somersault in his stomach whenever he sees Cho after Sirius died. I have a feeling he might be interested in someone we already know in the sixth book--nudge, nudge, wink, wink!

I really don't like Cho for Harry. She was just too perfect for him and when I read the book, I said to myself, she isn't perfect. She is indeed a human hosepipe. Harry needs someone cheerful, as what Ron said.

"it was wet"

LOL - a bit of an anticlimax, really, wasn't it?

"Wet" :rotfl:

I was kinda like... that's it? LOL, it was so cute and funny. Harry's first kiss and all he could say was "It was wet?" :lol: After that I was sure they may go on a date but it wasn't going to go anywhere. I mean he finally gets the girl he's been drooling over for two... three years... and all he could say was "It was wet." Yeah, that pairing was doomed.....

I found it funny that he patted her on the back afterwards :rotfl: Harry's always been so clueless about girls, it's hilarious. "Wet". Honestly ;)

I never really had an opinion on Cho, but after the way she acted in this book, I'm not sorry they're not together. Harry has too many emotions of his own to have to deal with hers, too. Besides, she was jealous of him (on their first date!), she was disappointed that Cedric hadn't mentioned her before he died (does she not know what Avada Kedavra is??), and she didn't seem to have trouble moving on to Michael Corner soon after, did she?

Cho really gets over guys that easily huh? I though after Cedric died, she wouldn't entertain guys especially Harry. But whoa! She practically throws herself at him (in a non-prostitute way, alrigh?) and kisses him! She didn't have grief issues huh?

And of course, after Harry she goes after Ginny's ex. That was quick! But she's still a human hosepipe. She's even whiny than Ginny in CoS!

How many people end up with their first crush? I think the relationship between Cho and Harry - even as 'just friends' - is pretty much over... Taking Cho out of the picture gives JKR a good opportunity to introduce a new love interest (or establish an interest with an existing character :D )

Originally posted by Mini'Grid (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=391230#post391230))
Cho is such a hag.
**** her and her stupid friend.
NARK! How could she takes sides with the girl who ratted them all out?
I hope Cho dies in the next book...no, i hope she is bretrayed by her friend.



calm down...

I don't think Cho deserves as much as that...

I think the kiss was too awkward too...

and please remember that she is a FICTIONAL character...

I think that JK did this thing with Cho so Harry could have a good understanding of a childhood sweetheart thing and he'll be better prepared in the next books for a relationship.

I love the whole "Wet" thing, Harry and Ron are such boys! If ya know what I mean! That was hilarious though.

Originally posted by flibbertigibbet (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=391461#post391461))
I found it funny that he patted her on the back afterwards :rotfl: Harry's always been so clueless about girls, it's hilarious. "Wet". Honestly ;)

Harry was just acting like any 15 year old boy who is alone with a major crush for the first time and who has never been around any girls like that before. Some 18 year old boys I know still act like that. Taking a leaf out of Harry's book (getit?) MEN!

"Wet"

Totally cute, Harry. He's just had his first kiss with a girl he likes and all he can say is wet?? Typical 15 year-old kid. But, he's Harry Potter :) We all have a blind spot for him, haven't we? Cute reaction. I dearly hope that 'wet' meant Cho's tears and not something else.......

I was like, 'oh~~~Harry's growing up!!' I was happy for him. I'd liked Cho (um....not anymore, after reading OotP) and Harry liked Cho, so I hoped that they would get together and :love:

But, the romance was just not to be. Harry's going through a hard time and he has no idea of girls' minds and Cho's just to wrapped up in her feeling.....not to metion she has some nasty friends. *coughMariettacough*

I'm satisfied though, that Harry's crush ended nicely. His heart wasn't broken and he wasn't turned down. He simply lost intrest. Hope he meets a real nice girl in the future!

Rofl I went into a state of giggles after reading about it, I had to have a couple of minutes break!

As for you saying that harry has no idea how girls work, he doesn't because he's never had any affection in his life that he can remember. I expect he feels very awkward, which you could see. The only hug he's ever had is off mrs weasley, and unless we are that lecturer who writes that highly amusing and disturbed article, that was pure "sonly" love, shown by the boggart.

I thought it was clever how it was divided with a * and that JKR didn't go into great details. It sounds stupid, but I felt like Harry had pleaded with her "Okay Joanne, you can keep the kiss, just don't say too much about it, alright?" - but then I am assuming JKR speaks with her characters like other writers do...

It was still anti-climatic, however.

lol...with the way some people have been speaking about it I was beginning to think I was missing a few pages. Thanks Loz for confirming it was just a "*" :D

An * can mean a lot of things, Picko ;)

It makes me wonder if it was like that because Cho was just not right for Harry, he was too much of an emotionally stunted teenage boy to care, or if there was another reason...

I don't think anything will develop between Ch and Harry in future books and I'm relieved to say the least. The more we got to know Cho's character the less I liked her.
I like the way JK handled the scene though. Not giving us all the details and how she cut it off right just as it happened.

Oh yeah, JK handled that scene wonderfully. ;) Seriously, Rowling really handled this aspect of Harry's life at Hogwarts very well -- even better than I thought she would be able to -- but then, I guess that this is just another lesson to not underestimate JK. I can remember myself reading that part ... first, I was utterly shocked ... then I wa s rolling my eyes ... and then I was laughing my head off. The scene with Ron and Hermione in the common room was just delightful.

I agree that that scene was very well developed, JK treated it perfectly. And I don't think more Harry romance was needed, but I'd have added more Ron/Hermione hints. About that kiss, I was shocked because I wasn't expecting Cho and Harry would get togheter, but later if was showed they don't.

Very diplomatic handling of the scene. I just hope this isnt the way she is going to tackle every "romance" scene in later books.

I am hoping like mad that Cho will not make a reappearence as crush-ee.

Well, raeredeyes, I think that you don't need to worry. The Harry/Cho ship sprung a leak during their date at the tearoom, and I believe that it has sunk completely when Harry referred to her as a human hosepipe. I think that we will definitely see less of Cho in the future books. Wasn't it described in the book that Harry looked at Cho and didn't feel anything?

Yes, it was. And she blushed when she walked by him, indicating that I think she still likes him and may well chase after him in books 6 and 7.

I was thinking if they were going to perform the Kiss on Serius, I don't know why J.K. didn't just do the same for the death eaters they captured at the end of the book before the dementors went to the Dark Lord's side?

I actually found the part where Harry and Cho kissed really cute. They both had feelings for each other, so I really don't think that Cho was trying to use Harry for anything. She just underestimated her feelings for Cedric, and she didn't realize that she really wasn't over him. I think she overreacted about the whole Hermione thing, and she definately should have seen how horrible it was for her friend to report DA, but I'm happy that Harry was able to get his first kiss from the person he'd had a crush on for a couple years. And I found it really amusing that he described the kiss as wet...that's exactly how I described my first kiss :).

Sheesh, when I read this my first thought was strangely of Hermione kissing Ron's cheek, not this...

Shows where my shipping loyalties lie, eh.. (H/Hr, not R/Hr...)

I didn't expect the kiss until I saw the word 'mistletoe' again... I actually expected more... description of it. Too many fics like that I guess...

And the 'wet'? Hilarious.

My first thought after the 'wet' comment was 'gross' and then it was 'Harry is going to kiss and tell! How rude!' I liked the fact that he was in shock so much that Ron and Hermione knew something was wrong.

Ah, I don't think Harry and Cho are going anywhere. His reaction to seeing her on the train in the last chapter was nothing to what it was at the start of the year. They can both move on, hopefully.

I didn't have any great desire to read a description of the kiss - I thought JKR handled the scene well - but I do think how it cut away with a * was quite funny - we can see "I must not tell lies" bloodily carved into the back of Harry's hand but not a simple kiss ;)

Originally posted by Capella (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=393916#post393916))
I do think how it cut away with a * was quite funny - we can see "I must not tell lies" bloodily carved into the back of Harry's hand but not a simple kiss ;)


Haha, good point, Capella. I hadn't even thought about that. maybe some things are just better left unwritten.

I think they picked the wrong time to be involved with each other... Cho was to busy with her own feelings about Cedric, etc. and Harry, he was way preoccupied to be involved in any sort of romance at all...

For future books.. They might get together or they might not... but I've got a feeling that Cho's gonna turn bad somehow... like go over to Voldemort/Malfoy's side or something...

Originally posted by Buttercup (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=393709#post393709))
My first thought after the 'wet' comment was 'gross' and then it was 'Harry is going to kiss and tell! How rude!'

Wouldn't you tell your best friends if your 3-year crush finally kissed you?

Eh, when I read the bit about them both, I was actually shocked.

And I also went into a huge fit of giggles and couldn't stop smiling when Harry wanted to grab Cho's hand... very amusing. :D

Well I was a big fan on Cho/Harry in the beginning, dunno why exactly.
But looking back, Cho just doesn't seem to be enough of a distinct character to be Harry's love interest, love is too big a theme in the series for a non-major character to be Harry's girlfriend, IMO

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who was glad that the sordid kiss affair wasn't actually written out. The way JK handled it was exactly the way I wanted it to be: sorry, I don't want to read an in-depth description of Harry smooching a girl when there are adventures to be had. (If it's Hermione he's smooching, then I suppose it's all right. :p ) But honestly..."Wet"...dear Harry is so clueless about girls. And then Ron asking if she was crying because he was that bad at kissing. :lol:

Seriously, I was a little miffed that his first kiss had to be with Cho. So miffed that I was staring in horrified disbelief at it for so long that my mom asked if Harry Potter had died halfway through the book. What made me the most angry was the way she snuck up on him like that and then sobbed all over him. Honestly, girl, if you're looking for something to cry on, get a Kleenex. :grumble:

I wasn't truthfully expecting Harry's first kiss to be with Hermione, even if I wanted it to be, because if they do get together I feel pretty sure that it will be closer toward the end of the series. And it's highly unlikely that his first kiss would be with his ultimate life partner--honestly, he's 15 years old. So I wasn't too surprised by it, despite my initial reaction. I still crack up at the thought of poor Harry describing it in one word as "Wet". :rolleyes:

I thought that Cho blushed because she was a little uncomfortable seeing Harry again. They really didn't have closure on their relationship... it just kind of mutually ended after that fight. I know I'd feel embarassed if my semi-ex-boyfriend saw me hanging out with the reason we broke up (a very good reason, at that).

Did their kiss make anyone else feel sort of bad? It made me feel like ... I dunno, sad that I didn't have a boyfriend and sad that Harry didn't really have a crush on me as I had hoped. :o

Heheh I also agree with the general sentiment that Harry is clueless about females :D I wanted to go there with him on his date and do, I dunno, something to make it less akward

Yeah, he's not too slick, that one. It was certainly interesting seeing his feeble attempts at conversation with Cho on their date, poor kid. I can't say that she made it any easier, of course, but it was definitely painfully awkward.

Hermione's reaction on finding out about the kiss is interesting. She doesn't seem too happy about it: in fact, she becomes strangely detached during their conversation. I'm not sure what I expected her to do, but I actually admired the way she handled herself, considering her possible feelings for Harry (IMO, of course).

I also noticed how she was after Harry told her about the kiss. It was a lack of surprise, I think. She makes several comments in the book that show she'd been paying attention to what's going on with the two of them.

I was very happy about it. I couldn't stop smiling. I was so happy that he had finally gotten what he had wanted with Cho. When the scene cut off I thought it was brilliant that it didn't say anything about the kiss, JKR just revealed it in the next scene. I laughed and smiled and I was so happy for him.

I liked the idea of Cho and Harry together!!

Well my first reaction after 'Wet' it was like Buttercup "GROSS" I felt bad for Harry. I honestly did. She was crying! I was with Harry and Ron when they said: What kind of a girl kisses and Cry. It made no sense to me. Hosepipe! he he he

Gily Ann

I think Hermione was a little disappointed about how Ron was acting about it, actually. I don't really remember the scene that well right now, but I think Ron had an "ewww, gross..." attitude about the kiss.

Yes, Harry is a bit tactless... but what on earth has Hermione been doing? The way she talks about those two is like she's a Legilimens following them around in an invisibility cloak. I wanted Ron and Hermione to get together on this one... perhaps Harry could find them... er... "snogging" in a cupboard or something :P ... The hope of every R/Hr shipper...

Something tells me that Harry will end up not with Girlfriend at the end of the series...

The kiss... I found the aftermath very funny. And it makes for a lot of hilarious banter between Hermione and Ron (the "insensitive wart"), which I always love.

Anyway, I like Cho. Maybe it's because I'm Asian, too. But I do understand how everyone's annoyance level upped after the fifth book. Myself included. And while reading the book, I was actually imagining her dying. (Even before the 5th book came out, I had a whole plotline of her death!)

Cho would make a good ghost, come to think of it... :)

Speaking of ghosts, we didn't find out a lot about them eh?

But by the attitude in which Harry and Ron react, it seems like they're 13 not 15... ie. Ron's giggling over Harry's first snog. :D

Hmmm...well, I'm glad it wasn't over exaggerated like some fanfics I've read, but it just didn't seem genuine, almost like Cho was grieving so much for Cedric that she simply kissed him on impulse. I wasn't actually that impressed, but it's nice that Harry got what he was waiting for. Good for him.

the kiss got me into a massive fit of giggles. :D i loved the way JK Rowling did it. she only talked about the beginning of it ("She was much too close. He could see every tear clinging to her eyelashes..." i love that line!!!) and what happened afterwards and i thought that was great! she left us to imagine what was exactly happening while they were kissing. holy, i was so happy for the two in that part of the book! i was jumping up and down and giggling so much. heehee...:rotfl: :rotfl: :D

but harry describing the kiss "wet" killed the excitement for me. i was really hoping he'd be much more appreciative and ecstatic about it than that. but if it was really "wet", then be it, fine...:( lol

I don't know many people believe that the romance won't work however JKR might pull a fast one just like with sirius's death. Also hary and cho both seem to be odd poeple, perhaps in the end they will recognize their oddities and understand each other. Anyway I don't really care if harry end up with anyone, i would rather see him go to the dark side and become the next dark lord after he kills voldemort.

I thought it was really cute and JKR did it well. Leading up to it and then..... I was happy for Harry, but also glad he realized Cho's not the girl for him. He's got other stuff on his mind at the end, anyway.
BUT, I love how Ron snaps "How do you know that?" at Hermione when she said Harry wasn't a bad kisser. *hem hem* A bit of jealousy here? Afraid Hermy's got first-hand knowledge of Harry's kissing skills? ;)

AND, I loved Hermione's little rant about what Cho must be feeling.
Nice touch, JKR.

There is no doubt in my mind that Ron likes Hermione.

And I also love how JKR uses "snog" a lot in the book, it's so funny! And what about Harry's angry outburst ("Women!")??? He seems so grown up when he says that, it's hilarious.

He he the kiss was bril!. Lol I was happy for Harry because it was his first kiss!. But I was sad aswell!. I think at the time I had both tears of joy and sadness in my eyes. I saw the kiss in Cho's P.O.V as a comfort but in Harrys as a crush type of thing you do at that age. It was funny how it was "wet" Now I hope that was from Cho's tears!.;)

Also those typical boys!. Asking about each others performance. I hear it all the time at school. ;) Hormones!.

i thought the only readon cho kissed harry was for compfors for her loss of sirius. i think she was scared and alone and very confused. and sought protection from harry who has saw the whole incident first hand. i think it was more of a confused kiss than a kiss kiss.

Well, i thought the kiss was super cute. Especaily how JK didn't describe the actual kisss. I think she smartly knew that that would be knda cheezy. It aslo made the following part a lot more amusing cuz ur reading wondering....wait did they kiss or did he just look at her eyelashes realy closely. THen hermionie is just like "did you kiss" as for the whole wet thing...it was funny cuz u THINK its talkin about the kiss but he was talkin about her crying. I thot it was adorable. I dont like Cho tho. She says Harrys being insensative but i think shes more insensative then him! Comeon her friend that she brought ratted on them and almost got him expelled! GEEZ

I thought it was exceptionally funny :D! Not so much the kiss itself, but Ron's reactions upon finding out! I couldn't help but grin when I pictured Ron making a victorious motion with his fist and rolling around the common room laughing and shouting!

Glad that he's over with Cho though.....

I think JKR handled the kiss brilliantly. To go into detail would be cheesy and awkward...but she just sort-of left it up to the reader's imagination. And Harry's point of view came across so well...I thought the whole scene and the 'aftermath" with Ron and Hermione was very well done. Hermione was so matter-of-fact about it, which we would all expect, and Ron was so goofy! It was great!

*applauds JKR*:clappy:

Addendum:
Be that as it may, I must say that I am VERY glad Cho is out of the picture. besides, Harry has more important things to worry about, eh?

So what was your reaction when Cho and Harry locked lips?
I was happy! I had been waiting for it for most of the book!

What would you have done?
If I were Cho? made out with Harry a long time ago. ;)

Do you feel like banging your head on the wall when Harry said "Wet"?
Nah.. I thought it was funny.

What will be the future for Cho and Harry?
I think (hope) there will be no future. I'm glad Harry finally went out with her, and now he won't be so hung up on her. And realize he should go out with Ginny ;)

Just noticed something I thought was kinda funny about the kiss. Right after it happened, it says Harry returned to the Gryffindor tower half an hour later. Must have been a long walk.... ;D

It's interesting that Cho closing in on Harry for the kiss is one of the scenes that flashes in his head during his sessions with Snape that Snape describes as memories Harry fears.:p
Cho was always intended as a first crush. I thought she was more interesting and likeable in the previous books before we got to know her better in this one.
I wonder if JKR wrote the kiss like that so she could later show a kiss between Harry and (hopefully) Hermione in real time.

maybe he doesn't fear the memory, i thought it was more like he didn't want snape to see that memory. it's an awfully private thing. I don't think i'd want my teacher seeing my first kiss.

Originally posted by FatalBeauty (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=390980#post390980))I doubt Harry and Cho have any future together since he can't seem to handle her and she now has a new boyfriend.


I think it's more that Cho doesn't know what she wants. Actually, I think she only liked Harry enough to actually want to go out with him in the first place because of Cedric. I think since they had him in common, however different that commonality may be, she could relate to him in a way that she couldn't with others, so she liked him. If that makes sense... Maybe it'll be possible for them to have something else happen between them, after she grows up a little. Harry's too mature for her.

I was really happy when they started talking to each other, though. This was like my second favorite shipping, after Ron and Hermione. I also thought it was really cool how JKR wrote that whole kissing scene. LOL, I held my breath and wore a big cheesy grin the whole time!

Originally posted by HPButterfly (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=416976#post416976))
This was like my second favorite shipping, after Ron and Hermione. I also thought it was really cool how JKR wrote that whole kissing scene. LOL, I held my breath and wore a big cheesy grin the whole time!


ME TOO!! I was so happy for Harry. Even if Cho did turn out to be a bit psycho.

Originally posted by mrsweasley (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=400057#post400057))
BUT, I love how Ron snaps "How do you know that?" at Hermione when she said Harry wasn't a bad kisser. *hem hem* A bit of jealousy here? Afraid Hermy's got first-hand knowledge of Harry's kissing skills? ;)

****! I didn't even catch that yo! ROFL, I LOVE Ron's silly protectiveness. He's my favorite now. BUT... Maybe he should still be concerned about her firsthand experience... With a certain Bulgarian Quidditch player?... How else would she know what that means? LOL, aside from the fact that she reads a lot...

Now that i think abt it, it would be the perfect thing 2 bang ur head on the wall. WET?? in a way i think its a shame their relationship didnt work out, but then again cho is too emotional.

If there was a cho in the movies, i dun think she'll have many fans.....:P

So what was your reaction when Cho and Harry locked lips?
I giggled like a little girl. (I'm 23)


What will be the future for Cho and Harry?
Well, I would really like to see Harry and Ginny. I really never tried to put too much thought into it, but they would be really cute together! Cho I think was just type of crush, nothing more.

Originally posted by pineapple (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=391001#post391001))


However...WET?!? *cringe* Cho was crying after all, so I'm hoping the "wetness" is from her tears. I'm glad Harry's growing up.


Yes, i took it as a bit of a double meaning there, but i am a slightly twisted college student :angel:

Cho's role in the story was just as Harry's first crush, so we can safely assume that we won't see much of Cho anymore -- Harry doesn't even have feelings for her anymore. Now that JK has written Cho out of the way, it all comes down to who Harry will be with in Book 7 (only then can we be sure that any relationships there are final), but that question is for another thread.

Originally posted by Aurora (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=390895#post390895))
Do you feel like banging your head on the wall when Harry said "Wet"?

I think I actually laughed outloud. I thought it was funny :lol:
It reminds me of the scene in Twister where the woman has just narrowly excaped a tornado and the guy asked her what it was like and she said it was windy. :p

I loved the earlier comment about Jo having a "converstaion" with Harry with him begging her to not write all the yucky details if he has to have this kiss...Priceless!

As I was reading that part of the book, my husband and our housemate came into the room and started asking me something. They had both finished the book earlier in the day. When I noticed them, I just looked up and said, I'm at the place in the book where mistletoe has just been mentioned for the second time...Don't expect me to be able to pay any attention to you until I finish this part...unless the house is burning down or something. They both paused for a second and then went, "OH...I get it..." and told me, "Nevermind...we'll catch you later...." It was funny. :)

Uh, "tactless"? It was more humorous than anything else (I mean "Is he Rain Man now?") but he was very noncommital about details and obviously thinks it's a private moment. He's abrasive with her at times, but this wasn't one of them.

I thought it was great that harry got to his first kiss from his first crush. Even if Cho did turn out to be not all he was hoping for.
Ron's obvious jealousy even extends to Harry! lol
Do you think that Daniel will be glad she cut it off where she did? :angel:

Originally posted by Turambar (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=416915#post416915))
It's interesting that Cho closing in on Harry for the kiss is one of the scenes that flashes in his head during his sessions with Snape that Snape describes as memories Harry fears.:p


I was just about to come here and mention that part, because it is interesting how things turned out.

But first, my reaction to the kiss? I thought it was handled very nicely by JKR. Just fine. There was no need to go into details and build up the atmosphere. She gave us a clue as to how Harry felt when it happened, and that is sufficient for me.

Like most other readers, I found the discussion on the Kiss in the Common Room afterwards the best part of it all. Ron was so lovably funny. Hermione's reaction was so complex that you'd have to peel off layer after layer of language to decipher it.

Back to the Occlumency session. I started thinking about why he thought of the kiss as one of his most frightful memories. I came up with a few possible answers, but I decided to consult a guy friend of mine for confirmation.

What I thought was this: Harry was not expecting the kiss at the moment. It was neither the right time nor place for a boy to get his first real kiss from a girl he fancies, and who also fancies him. Because it was so unexpected, Harry probably felt inadequate. He doesn’t have experience with this sort of thing, and he had not been dating Cho for a long time either. He must have felt somewhat ambivalent about it. He wants it, but doesn’t really know how to go about kissing a girl and what to do afterwards. I think that’s why subconsciously, Harry didn’t really enjoy that kiss. To him, it wasn’t cute or funny in the way that we as readers interpret it. On the contrary, it was almost as if she came onto him rather strong.

Funny, isn’t it, that the kiss took place after a DADA lesson, in the room where they learn defence?

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Hi! I'm Veritas and this is my first post, so I hope I havn't done anything wrong!...:sigh:
Anyway, I wanted to say that in my opinion, the whole Cho/Harry thing was a down side of the book. For a start we did not know enough about Cho to like her and therefore feel happy for Harry. My main issue, however, was the kiss:love: :'( I understand that JK wanted the book to be suitable for younger readers, but skipping the kiss out altogether is going a bit far. When reading "The eye of the Snake", I was desperate to find out whether or not Harry actually kisses Cho, so turned the page eagerly,to find the words "half an hour later in the common room." AHHHHH!!! :banghead: How annoying. Harry's first kiss and JK completely skips it. Do you lot think she was right to do this, or are you with me on this one?

Of course he actually kisses Cho, and I think it was perfect the way JK did it, we can imagine the kiss for ourselves ;). If they were to kiss, I'm daresay JK will write something like "he felt their lips touch", but that'll be the maximum. What is she suppose to do? Describe it? ;D

Originally posted by Alorra Spinnet (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=418471#post418471))
Do you think that Daniel will be glad she cut it off where she did?


I doubt Daniel will do the fifth film, but we can hope...

I think, if they make a movie, that the kissing scene will be in it, or else that part won't be in it at all. Who's seen a movie where they're going to kiss and stop half-way? Unless they dissolve it to the next scene or something...

i thought it was hilarious i cacking myself when i read it and then i laughed even more when harry said it was "wet"
AAAAHAHAHAHAHAA

Well I do want Harry to get with Hermione. It would be perfect that way!

But onto the kiss, I think she handled it well, of couse some of us wanted more details but its not a fanfic and she cant write details and make us like it. Little kids are reading this and that would be a bad wrap for her.

I couldn't stop smiling at this point of the book. I am glad to see Harry get something that he has been wondering about for a while. But I also believe that Cho was using him to get information about Cedric. I do not see them together in the future. But maybe as friends, if Cho loses her "friend". Did they ever get rid of her pimples?

Hmmm *wishes she could be 15 again, just for one day*. Well, I guess the kiss was strange , being that was his first. Just hope it was his last with Cho. I really dislike the huss now.
:wow:

I think Cho went out with Michael because she was jealous of Harry and his time spent with Hermione. She wants a guy, and Michael was there for her so she blindly went out with him. Didn't she mention Roger just to make Harry jealous?

Anyway, I don't think Harry will be going out and get serious with girls very soon because of Sirius's death. He has too much to deal with and grief and all that...that's why he didn't get a somersault in his stomach when he saw Cho. I mean, even if he didn't like Cho, it's normal to feel an attraction when a guy sees a pretty girl.

I don't think Harry will go out with anyone until maybe toward the end of the sixth book. Definitely not the beginning of it because he's still grieving and he just found out that either HIM or VOLDEMORT will die! I mean, think about it, that's a lot for someone to handle, isn't it?

I'd like it if Harry just found some other girl completely. I'm wanting Ron and Hermione to get together, and Cho (no offense to anyone) totally and completely out of the "love" picture. I don't really think Luna and Harry or Ginny and Harry would work out too well.
And plus, after the death of Sirius in the end of the 5th book, Harry might not desire to have any kind of girl/guy relationship for a while. And I don't blame him 'cause I MISS SIRIUS! LOL.

I don't see a future for Harry and Cho. Cho obviously only wanted to get close to Harry to find about about Cedric. Cho strikes me as the pretty popular girl stereotype; the only person she really cares about is herself. I mean, come on, "did Cedric mention me before he died?" There wasn't exactly time. . what was she expecting- "Oh Harry, before I die, I want you to know, that I love Cho." (sorry, i have major issues!) Also, Cho has no idea about friendship, something that is really important to Harry. If she really liked him, on their date she'd go with him when he met with Hermione; she'd understand their relationship was nothing beyond friends (and maybe want to go with him to make sure of that). I think Harry got disgusted with her after the thing with Marietta. . Harry takes friends betraying you very seriously, after Pettigrew and his parents.

Didn't it seem like Harry wasn't quite ready for the kiss anyway? He only kissed her because she kissed him, and Hermione had to push him into asking her out. I do think JKR wrote the kiss in a tactful way though; if it had turned into a lengthy description of it like in a romance novel I would have gagged :)

As for who Harry will end up with, I don't see him with anyone. Hermione is just his friend, JKR has said that repeatedly in interviews (though you never know with her). Luna obviously likes Ron, and I could see her and Harry becoming friends but nothing more. As for Ginny, this would be an interesting plot twist: Harry starts to like her since she's grown up a lot and stops seeing her just as Ron's little sister, but she doesn't like him anymore!! I mean, who else would there be for Harry? Susan Bones?

Originally posted by Aurora (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=422246#post422246))
I doubt Daniel will do the fifth film, but we can hope...

I think, if they make a movie, that the kissing scene will be in it, or else that part won't be in it at all. Who's seen a movie where they're going to kiss and stop half-way? Unless they dissolve it to the next scene or something...


If I was doing the movie, I'd have them kiss but not full-out making out or anything. She'd kiss him and then she'd put her head on his shoulder and cry. I'd back up to show them from far away, and then fade into the next scene.

Btw, whether Daniel does the 5th one or not, I'd think he'd be jumping at the chance to kiss a girl on screen. I mean, come on, he is a teenage boy here ;)

I laughed quite abit through the whole "romance" thing. I think my favorite bit was when Cho pointed "Miseltoe" and Harry said something like " Theres Nargals in it"
Smooth Harry, real smooth.

I tihnk that the love scene between Harry and Cho was WAY 2 corny. I mean kissing under a misletoe, give me a break. It was way 2 predictable. They shoulda made it more suddle and random.

^But Cho likes corny. Remember the cupid?

It was actually a pretty good indicator of the way the rest of the relationship went--your basic teenage romance, cut shorter than usual, with a heaping side of angst.

Because the kiss was just a kiss and was never described properly, it foreshadows that Cho really isn't an important character and that her relationship with Harry will become very shallow.

I had been open to a Harry and Cho coupling before, but in retrospect, I should have known it would never work. I'm glad they aren't together... Cho has some jealousy problems she needs to work out, while Harry needs to learn a bit more about girls :)

I don't think either of them are ready for a lasting relationship, although next book I'm sure Harry'll develop something or other for somebody or other. As for Cho and (who was it? Roger Davies?) I don't think they'll last.

I completely agree with you on Cho and Roger there. As for Harry, he may only be sixteen in the next book but, the trauma he just went through could have two effects...

One he will distance himself from his friends because he thinks there's no point in having him for a friend when he's slated to kill or be killed. Or....

Two he will realize that he has something better than just friends... he has his own version of a family and grow emotionally enabling him to have a more meaningful relationship with a girl.

If I was doing the movie, I'd have them kiss but not full-out making out or anything. She'd kiss him and then she'd put her head on his shoulder and cry. I'd back up to show them from far away, and then fade into the next scene.

Btw, whether Daniel does the 5th one or not, I'd think he'd be jumping at the chance to kiss a girl on screen. I mean, come on, he is a teenage boy here ;)
He may do the 5th one. Yea, don't forget after their kiss, he has to PAT her.
Haha!

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Harry's first kiss and JK completely skips it. Do you lot think she was right to do this, or are you with me on this one?

I, for one, was relieved the kissing part happened "off screen" and I hope she keeps it that way. There is enough painful re-living of teenage angst to get through without a blow by blow description of a first kiss.

Haha, unlike you, Aurora, I thought 'wet' was a very funny answer. And then Ron's comment to it was even better. I looked on the kiss on one big JK'S joke, for some reason... :D

Well, Cho should predicted it. She's older and a lot more experienced. Maybe she thought that the famous Harry potter had a lot of girls before. Well, I'd think like this if I was Cho.

The "Wet" answer made me laugh. I like Harry so much, he's just so candid in relationships. He says first things he thinks of. The way he said simple: "I don't think you're ugly" to Hermione's advice...

Hey, people, calm down, it was his first kiss, he was so nervous. Next ones will be better. But who will be the lucky girl, I don't know.

I was more excited about Hermione kissing Ron on the cheek, and his adorable reaction!!!!!!

The "Wet" answer made me laugh. I like Harry so much, he's just so candid in relationships. He says first things he thinks of. The way he said simple: "I don't think you're ugly" to Hermione's advice...

Agreed. Harry is so adorably candid, it's cute. I do like that he's straightforward and not into playing games.


But who will be the lucky girl, I don't know.

Hermione :whistle:

I think both Harry and Ron's reactions are cute :p

They're kinda clueless and SLOWLY learning, understanding, and appreciating girls. :elaugh:

I wanted Harry to be hooked up with any girl... I even wanted him to be with Cho for that matter.. I just want to see more romance on the books... I liked it when they kissed, but didn't like it when he said Wet... It was a very symbolic part, since it showed how much Harry has matured and grown, but still shows how much he has to deal with a big part of his life... How to relate with girls and how to treat them.. We all know it's something that occupies the minds of most of the boys...

I just want to see more romance in the books, and to see Harry with someone... Like Hermione, Luna or Ginny, or whoever "could" be introduced.. I just want to see Harry triunfant in that aspect of his life.. Just think of how much emotions, excitement and interest would it bring to the book...

Just my 2 cents...

What I felt about the kiss? Well, I was kinda waiting for it you know. I've always liked the idea of Harry being with Cho. Now I know it's over and done, but I think that if things would have been different they might have lasted longer than one "wet" kiss. ;)

Anyhow, Harry's reaction couldn't have been different - just look at his state of mind in book 5. He's tormented, and doesn't know his place in the world anymore. A kiss like that, with a girl who is way too emotional for him, can't have brought him a lot of joy...

What I felt about the kiss? Well, I was kinda waiting for it you know. I've always liked the idea of Harry being with Cho. Now I know it's over and done, but I think that if things would have been different they might have lasted longer than one "wet" kiss. ;)

Anyhow, Harry's reaction couldn't have been different - just look at his state of mind in book 5. He's tormented, and doesn't know his place in the world anymore. A kiss like that, with a girl who is way too emotional for him, can't have brought him a lot of joy...
Hehe, too true. They're too much alike in my opinion.

I really really hope Harry would hooked up with one of the famous candidates: Hermione, Ginny, or Luna.

I only personally hope Harry will get another kiss soon, from some one close. However, with Luna, it's way impossible. Let's face, though Luna's a straightfoward and intelligent girl, but she's too weird. And Harry's never thought of Luna as a match for him. Last year, he chose Cho, who is one year older than he is. His mind must have taken upto someone more mature...or whatever. Luna is out of league. Ginny huh? Not likely. Harry and Ginny had a weird history together. Ginny fancied Harry, but Harry did not. And it seems that Harry has always considered Ginny as a sister, more or less. I'd love to see Harry kiss Hermione, though. However, it's a bit weird too. I mean, they've been best friends for ever, now if they kissed, things will go beserk with Ron. And, upsetting Ron is the last thing that both Harry and Hermione want to do. I am H/Hr shipper, And, I hope they end up romantically. Unfortunately, I don't want to TRIO to separate. I love them together, strong and loyal.

***van.

oh the kiss for harry and cho was so cute. i really wanted them together since he first started liking her (3rd book). I wonder who he's going to end up w/ next. I think it should be Ginny kinda...

I mean, come on, "did Cedric mention me before he died?" There wasn't exactly time. . what was she expecting- "Oh Harry, before I die, I want you to know, that I love Cho." (sorry, i have major issues!)

I'm not a big Cho fan, but let's be fair. Did she really know what happened in that graveyard? After all, not even Ron and Hermione understand what it's like to be facing Voldemort. And I don't think she's a bad person for being jealous when her date announces he's got to meet a girl on Valentine's Day. Look how many people right here think Harry and Hermione ought to be more than friends!

I'm not a big Cho fan, but let's be fair. Did she really know what happened in that graveyard? After all, not even Ron and Hermione understand what it's like to be facing Voldemort. And I don't think she's a bad person for being jealous when her date announces he's got to meet a girl on Valentine's Day. Look how many people right here think Harry and Hermione ought to be more than friends!

I'd say it's just fortunate things that have to happen for unfortunate couples. I mean, if they are not destined for each other, there are millions of reasons for them to be apart, eventually. Cho wan't thoughtful at that moment, and Harry wasn't concerned much either.

***van.

I haven't read all the posts so forgive me if I say something wierd...

Anyways, I think JKR wrote the kiss very tastefully. I mean, she was sort of in a pickle. She couldn't (well, she COULD, but c'mon) go ahead and describe some huge makeout session, but just writing "and so they kissed" is totally boring. So I liked how she let us decide how it went!

Well i was never a big fan of Harry and Cho, i especially didn’t like how she was pretty discourteous to him I thought. I think all Cho was , was Harry first crush, and his first Kiss. I don’t think they ever official were going out. Though they did kiss once and held hands a few times. He never said Cho Chang is my girlfriend or the other way around. I think they are finished , I don’t see them being friends its just over, they will see each other and be polite but I don’t see them becoming buddies, not now. It’s a possibility when they are older and gone from Hogwarts

I thought the kiss was intresting we dont know much about it, like was it long, just wet from what harry says. If Ron and Herimone ever kiss on the lips maybe it will be diffrent

I thought the kiss was intresting we dont know much about it, like was it long, just wet from what harry says. If Ron and Herimone ever kiss on the lips maybe it will be diffrent

1. It did say that Harry showed up in the common room a half hour later, so we have some frame of reference. From his reaction in the common room, he was still kind of in shock; so I think it can be inferred that they had just recently parted. Yes, it could have been a quick kiss and then he patted her for awhile or something. I kind of like the ambiguity because they people who understand what is going on, do understand and those who are too young, don't.

2. Yes, a R/Hr kiss would be different. I don't think we'd get a description. If anything it would be Harry walking in on them and thinking "What is going on here?" He certainly wouldn't know and since it is from his point of view, we would only see what he sees.

It did say that Harry showed up in the common room a half hour later, so we have some frame of reference. From his reaction in the common room, he was still kind of in shock; so I think it can be inferred that they had just recently parted.



I just assumed that they didnt stay together long but that, Harry had just not gone back to the common room right away. He was still in kind of shock it was his first kiss after all. Something he had proabably been dreaming about since he first had a crush on Cho in book 3

I thought 'The Kiss' was cute, after I read it, I read another page before I went back to it and read it again. And 'wet' was rather funny. I didn't want to bang my head against the wall when he said that, but I was pretty close to doing it when I read about their date *shudders* Now that was a disaster and a half.

I, like pretty much everyone else, don't see a future for Harry and Cho. It'll be Cho's last year next year and I honestly don't see Harry going after anyone in his sixth, and probably one of the reasons would be his experiences with Cho! What happened between them would be enough to scare any unexperienced bloke off! Especially someone as emotionally unbalanced as Harry.

But I never really thought much of Cho. I think she was really just the experience Harry had to have. The experience of his first gf, no matter how disastrous it was :P

I agree with you wakkachuta, I dont think Harry will do alot of love-searching towards girls in book 6. So probably there will be romance between Harry and a friend, wich could be Ginny, Luna, Hermione... Whoever I don't care, as long as Harry has somebody.

I agree. I think that Harry won't persue anytype of romance in sixth year. But I do think that romance will probably persue HIM! :angel:

You know, JK did say that Harry will have "a kiss...or two" but didn't say who'd the kisser be. It could be anyone. I'm guessing Cho might try to make a move on him in book 6, but that's just me. Their little romance was short and officially over, but I still think Cho has a crush on Harry. As to the girl who'd be the "real deal," who knows? Heck we have to wait til 2005 or 2006 to know.

You know, JK did say that Harry will have "a kiss...or two" but didn't say who'd the kisser be. It could be anyone. I'm guessing Cho might try to make a move on him in book 6, but that's just me. Their little romance was short and officially over, but I still think Cho has a crush on Harry. As to the girl who'd be the "real deal," who knows? Heck we have to wait til 2005 or 2006 to know.

That's the solid fact. However, why not have a bit fun of predicting who? Cho will be back for sure since obviously DA will be there, and Cho still one more year. And, not to mention that Harry will behave more rationally when he's not angry. That's only a possibility. However, I don't believe so.

The scene on the train back did show the obviousness that Harry and Cho was over. Harry realized then that he didn't understand Cho at all, then thought to himself that Cho would be better off with someone else, not himself. So, that's it with Cho and Harry.

Now, the new development will arise. Let see...Harry's thoughts will be very clouded from about a month, and some more weeks after leaving Privete Drive to whereever it is. But, being close to his friends, he'll be fine again. And, I suspect that it's during this time, before actually returning back to Hogwarts, that Harry will start to develop some emotions towards certain individual - but who?. The hot bet put on the table right now is either Hermione or Ginny. I personally love to see Harry pair up with Hermione more than with Ginny. There will be a lot more twists going on if Harry pair up with Hermione than with Ginny. It just sounds too plain for H/G. They never had history together, and hence there will not much of recursion feedback for continuing events. I just don't see it...

***van.

i liked harry's kiss with cho because it seemed that the book grew up at that point. i mean, being a high schooler, it seems to me that at the age of sixteen it was about time harry had a kiss, it makes the book more realistic. i dont mean to say i want it to get into "inappropriate" things, but it seems to make the wizarding more realistic. i also liked it because it sounds like cho was a really good looking girl, and once again, as a high schooler, im proud of harry. however, it doesnt seem like it will work out and i would like harry to end up with hermione

I do agree with your point, Neville's Army, about the book aging. To hold some of the older readers, J.K. needed a little romance. Besides, Harry deserved a little bit of a break. I liked that he was able to live a bit more like a Muggle teenage, which makes the books more applicable to regular life. However, he doesn't have a very good understanding of the girl mentality. While I support Harry in the matter overall, I can understand why Cho was upset. They didn't understand each other well, so I agree that they wouldn't have turned out, anyway. I believe J.K. said the same.

I especially enjoyed how Hermione really said, straight out, a lot of the thought-processes girls go through. First, she put into words what a lot of females can't, and she said it truthfully. I loved the boys' reactions, too :rotfl: . I thought it was an interesting exploration in how both genders interpret different situatoins and feel different emotions, and the same goes for the kiss with Cho.

When I see this thread pop up, for some reason I always think about the Dementors' Kiss :lol: ... thankfully Harry hasn't undergone that!

I was actually horrified when Harry and Cho locked lips. I was like,"How much of this must I endure?" Harry had this childish on a girl older than him for two years, it's about time he get over it. However, I must say, Harry is so tactless. He just says the wrong things at the wrong times. I can just imagine the exasperated look on Hermione's face when Harry said, "Wet" . That little episode was funny. I am puzzled. Does Cho really like Harry. I mean, she did look genuinely sorry when she had to turn down Harry's offer in GoF.

If I was doing the movie, I'd have them kiss but not full-out making out or anything. She'd kiss him and then she'd put her head on his shoulder and cry. I'd back up to show them from far away, and then fade into the next scene.

Btw, whether Daniel does the 5th one or not, I'd think he'd be jumping at the chance to kiss a girl on screen. I mean, come on, he is a teenage boy here ;)
Awww. Sweet hermeeowninny :) :') Btw, I'd read in a magazine that Daniel got sick of his fame :wow: and decided not to be in the movies anymore after Azkaban :wow: Is he crazy or what??? I'd JUMP at the chance to have fame!! :D :) :lol: :angel:

well! for me there are two sides one of it saying it was kinda grown up for them and one was it was not really nice... JKR put some romance in the book about harry and cho but are they relatonship going you know kinda serious NO b'coz at the end cho starting dating micheal and it seems to me that the kiss was just for nothing maybe b'coz he miss cedric's kisses so he kissed harry!!! well! i'm definitely confused!!!

I have never felt that Harry and Cho was good for each other so I'm just glad it ended the way it did. Cho was better off with Cedric than with Harry, I think. Cedric was more Cho's kind of guy, too bad he had to die away from her.

But I sure hope Daniel changes his mind and continues after POA. If he doesn't, I might not see the GOF movie. The books have still always been better than the movies in my opinion.

Well I hardly think that the lack of Daniel's performance would be a reason to stay away from the movie :p

I was actually horrified when Harry and Cho locked lips. I was like,"How much of this must I endure?" Harry had this childish on a girl older than him for two years, it's about time he get over it. However, I must say, Harry is so tactless. He just says the wrong things at the wrong times. I can just imagine the exasperated look on Hermione's face when Harry said, "Wet" . That little episode was funny. I am puzzled. Does Cho really like Harry. I mean, she did look genuinely sorry when she had to turn down Harry's offer in GoF.

I think the kiss in the book was totally appropriate. How many of you out there had your first kiss turn out perfect? Not many, I bet. First kisses are awkward and clumsy. Plus, Harry's young and he doesn't understand how girls' minds work yet, so I think it went as good as can be expected. Girls, myself and Cho included, play dumb games in an attempt to get guys to act/speak/be a certain way; therefore I don't think we can hold it against Harry for 'always saying the wrong thing' because he doesnt know any better.

I am glad that the romance was kept to a minimum, though. If it had been any more elaborate than that, I would have been right there with you in my horrifiedness. This is a wizard's tale first, and a romance novel last.

This is a wizard's tale first, and a romance novel last.

At least I'm not the only person who doesn't think Who Will Fall In Love With Whom is equivalent to the meaning of the universe! I'd modify that assessment though: this is a good-vs-evil battle first, and a personal development story (or Bildungsroman, if you want to be pretentious) a close second. This is a story about teenagers growing up, so it would be unrealistic if no-one fell in love. On the other hand, there are bigger issues afoot, especially for Harry. I don't expect him to start kissing again very soon, with what he's just been through. What he needs most is friendship, especially building closer ties with those who've had experiences a bit like his - Lupin, Neville, Ginny, Luna, Susan. I think it would be a shame if too many raging hormones got in the way of that.

Picko: I don't like the movies as much as the books anyway, and if they exchanged too many actors, it would be irritating. But of course, if they don't hurry up, the actors might grove out of their roles (though a lot of actors play people ten years younger than themselves very well).

OK, I hope I'm not the only here who feels this way around here, but the magic and the creatures and so on is not what I like the best about HP, neither is it the battle between god or bad, it is its emotional issues. Most of my favorite moments in the series are more emotional ones, and romance issues are important to me in any work. For example, I hate it if a couple isn't right for each other, nothing can freak me out more.

At least I'm not the only person who doesn't think Who Will Fall In Love With Whom is equivalent to the meaning of the universe! I'd modify that assessment though: this is a good-vs-evil battle first, and a personal development story (or Bildungsroman, if you want to be pretentious) a close second. This is a story about teenagers growing up, so it would be unrealistic if no-one fell in love. On the other hand, there are bigger issues afoot, especially for Harry. I don't expect him to start kissing again very soon, with what he's just been through. What he needs most is friendship, especially building closer ties with those who've had experiences a bit like his - Lupin, Neville, Ginny, Luna, Susan. I think it would be a shame if too many raging hormones got in the way of that.

Very true. It would be very un-realistic to exclude the romance entirely, since they are teenagers coming of age. I think JKR pulled it off beautifully. Not too cheesy, not too all-consuming, very realistic.

Although I will stick to my prediction that Harry will end up with Ginny :)

Well, either her or Hermione is my guess. Or Luna... But I think Luna will end up with Ron. Whoops, off topic again...

I think Ginny is sort of hot property... I mean, she was going out with Michael Corner, and then snagged an "older man" in Dean Thomas... I hope her and Harry don't go out, I still stand by my prediction of H/Hr... and they would be so cute...

Do any of you think that perhaps Ron is a little jealous of Harry? I mean, Harry has the fame, the money, the "exciting" life (to Ron), and now he's gotten his first kiss, too. I think Ron is a little more immature than Harry, too... he did have a totally childish reaction, but I don't think that was innapropriate, really.

I think the reason this kiss is so momentous for us HP fans is because we still think of Harry as our "little boy", sort of like Dumbledore. It seems like yesterday that Harry was a wittle teeny eleven-year-old in PS. On second thought, that was today... I'm rereading PS :D. But anyways, in any other book, if the book started out with the main character being a fifteen-year-old boy, wouldn't you sort of expect that he's already had his first kiss... and sometimes, et cetera? And that he's interested in girls, and maybe has a girlfriend? It seems like we're all so protective of our little Harry Potter that is seems so wierd to us that he's kissing girls, especially older girls. I know that when he was comforting Cho, I was like, "my little man! Being all grown up, comforting your little girlfriend! What a little gentleman!" I know, I sound like my mother, here. But it's true. We're just not ready to let our little Harry grow up!

That was cute delaney :p I don't feel that off because I'm still a teenager (who just turned legal this month :cool: ) and still growing (I mean literally; I just grew another inch before my 18th bday) and still loving the HP books. I know it's funny his first kiss is with an experienced older girl. He does seem mature and grown up at times. I don't think he was immature about his "wet " comment. He just didn't know any better.

I think Ginny is sort of hot property... I mean, she was going out with Michael Corner, and then snagged an "older man" in Dean Thomas... I hope her and Harry don't go out, I still stand by my prediction of H/Hr... and they would be so cute...
First of all, isn't Michael Corner a little older than Ginny too? Still, I agree with you that Harry and Hermione would be the very cutest.

Do any of you think that perhaps Ron is a little jealous of Harry? I mean, Harry has the fame, the money, the "exciting" life (to Ron), and now he's gotten his first kiss, too. I think Ron is a little more immature than Harry, too... he did have a totally childish reaction, but I don't think that was innapropriate, really.
Ron might be jealous, but really, he has no right to be so. Ron has had a better life than Harry, period! And maybe Ron is a little less mature than Harry, but not too inmature. The wet comment just came out because Harry and Ron aren't experienced with kissing yet.

I think the reason this kiss is so momentous for us HP fans is because we still think of Harry as our "little boy", sort of like Dumbledore. It seems like yesterday that Harry was a wittle teeny eleven-year-old in PS. On second thought, that was today... I'm rereading PS :D. But anyways, in any other book, if the book started out with the main character being a fifteen-year-old boy, wouldn't you sort of expect that he's already had his first kiss... and sometimes, et cetera? And that he's interested in girls, and maybe has a girlfriend? It seems like we're all so protective of our little Harry Potter that is seems so wierd to us that he's kissing girls, especially older girls. I know that when he was comforting Cho, I was like, "my little man! Being all grown up, comforting your little girlfriend! What a little gentleman!" I know, I sound like my mother, here. But it's true. We're just not ready to let our little Harry grow up!
OK, I disagree with every word you say here. I don't see Harry as an eleven-year-old in OOTP, that would be just sick. He is fifteen there, and that's miles away from eleven! Maybe I'm among the few in the world who would treat teenagers as teenagers and not like babies, or at least I would try to do so. And I would never expect a fifteen-year-old to have had his or her first kiss. I'm 19 going on 20, and I sure haven't had my first kiss yet. My brother is 34 and my sister is 31, and neither of them have kissed either as far as I know. It is very stereotypic of you to say that fifteen-year-olds should be expected to have had their first kisses. It could happen that they have had the first kiss allready, but you can't take it for granted. And I for one never thought it was cute at all, that Harry kissed Cho. I was more like close to throwing up about it. Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh---

I think the kiss was actually kind of obnoxious. I'm glad Jo didn't even write that scene, and instead let us hear about it afterward. It almost seems to me like Harry didn't want to be kissed... I know I wouldn't want to either if the girl was crying all over herself in thought of her dead boyfriend. How romantic.

I know this is not a thread to go off on Cho but I even sort of felt a bit of resentment. I mean, to me she was just looking for emotional support from Harry since he saw Cedric die, and probably rebounding, and since she knew Harry liked her (I mean it would be obvious right?) she knew she could get away with it. If Harry chooses the word "wet" to describe his kiss with this girl he's liked for ages, then I doubt it was anything to be savored.

I really don't see a future for him with Cho. Seems like he got pretty sick of her antics, and she's with someone else now anyway... Harry could do better than someone who is high maintenance and expects to be taken out to Umbridge style tea-houses.

*realizes when the last post on this thread was made and sees she's totally missed the train* :rotfl: How did I even find this thing? I must have stumbled across a portkey that whisked me back into posts from four months ago, or accidentally used a time turner...

She is a bit over emotional. I think the kiss was just spur of the moment since she had feelings for him before. Cho is over Harry and Harry over her. The last chapter of OotP made this clear. Harry will have other romances but not with Cho.:p

She never really saw him as a boyfriend, I think. She wanted to be with him because of her grief, nothing more.

I don't see any future between the two of them, even as friends. Cho cannot ever forgive Harry for coming out of the Triwizard maze alive, no matter what she says. She prefers Cedric to him, she only got close to Harry to find out more about Cedric, but Harry doesn't want to talk about it.

I thought it was cute/sweet, but then again when I had read about it I was in a happy relationship. Then a few days later, I got my first kiss myself, so I still get a little smirk on my face when I read that part. And what's funny is I was his age. Aww, ickle Harry got his first kiss. It's cute cause he's never had that sort of thing, I doubt he got much attention from girls when he was younger. I can (or could) relate. And when my (at the time) boyfriend asked me how it was, I said "Wet." and he laughed.

I don't see a future for them though, since they're so different, and Cho is really whiny.

2. Yes, a R/Hr kiss would be different. I don't think we'd get a description. If anything it would be Harry walking in on them and thinking "What is going on here?" He certainly wouldn't know and since it is from his point of view, we would only see what he sees.

*snicker* For all we know, it could have already happened, since Ron and Hermy spend so much time alone. But I'd be glad if they did, they're so obvious it's not even funny.

*snicker* For all we know, it could have already happened, since Ron and Hermy spend so much time alone. But I'd be glad if they did, they're so obvious it's not even funny.

Yes...which is exactly why I ship R/Hr
Those two spend way too much time together...I'm surprized the two of them havent gotten at least a bit curious....one can only hope!

Okay, before this gets too much like the love thread... :eyebrows:

I was disapointed with Harry's reaction to his first kiss...he seemed bewildered and probably wouldent have said anything if Hermione dident butt in...I remember my reaction after my first real kiss...I couldent stop smiling or feeling like I was floating for a good hour or so after

I dunno, he's just not the romantic type at all

It was intersting the way JK wrote the kiss....she wrote it from a very confused perspective...which makes sense, Harry had absolutly no idea what he was doing or what to expect and then...nothing, until Harry returned to the common room

I wished we had a little bit more detail...even if it was completly innocent and lasted a second

I also believe that he and Cho are done...especially after the DoM disaster...he wont be associating with other students outside of his little circle because they wont understand what he went through

If he dates anyone...and thats a big if...it'll be either Ginny, Luna, or Hermione

The kiss made me a bit giggly and I thougth Harry's totally confused reaction was funny and sweet. I agree with everyone who said they liked the way JKR wrote it, she left it to the imagination. Plus I always love a scene in the books when Ron grins!

I'm not a huge romance fan and I never especially liked Cho, even before book 5, but I loved how that scene was written. It was very . . . sweet, I guess. And ending it with the line "he could see every tear tear clinging to her eyelashes: was, I think, a much more effective than actually showing the kiss. Very realistic and well done.

I'd always wanted to see how Harry would react to actually kissing someone. The conversation with Ron and Hermione was cute and funny, and so was basically everything that happended between H/C.

But frankly, I'm pretty glad Harry lost interest. Now he's free to date Luna! Am I totally insane?

It was the first big step in romance in HP. The convo w/ Hermione and Ron was funny and cute, very typical Harry. With Cho, I think he's done with her..he may become friends with her, unless she gets totally over Cedric, which I doubt she will.

I didn't like the idea of Cho and Harry. Harry doesn't like the fact that she's still hung up on Cedric and Cho doesn't like the fact that he's friends with Hermione. I'm still hoping for a Harry and Ginny thing. And I think Ron's thinking the same thing when he gave Harry that look at the end of the book. I also don't see a future for those two. And if you'll notice... His feelings towards her have changed, she's becoming a thing of the past...

I really like what Jinxie Cat had to say, I think that there could be a Harry and Ginny thing. I just am feeling like 95% sure that there cant be something between Harry and Hermione because then Ron would be really left out. Not just physically left out but more emotionally. Its like he would be out of "The Trio." Harry is his own person and doesnt require a lot of attention from others and he often likes being by himself. I think he would like it if Ron and Hermione went out.

I was going all Eww :rotfl: and laughing my head off at the same time!:D

I was surprised that Hermione wasn't surprised though...

It was funny.No other words for it,at least as far as I'm concerned-and as for the whole "ickle Harry's growing up!" part..by that point in the story,it's abundantly clear he isn't "ickle Harry",and hasn't been for a long time.But the scene was well-written.I liked that we don't get to see The Kiss (and be potentially grossed out),but still got a sense of it being something of a landmark event in Harry's life.

I think the whole relationship with Cho was to "prepare" Harry to relate to girls.
I like the fact that it didn't last because I didn't like her but it's clear that JK doesn't want Harry's first crush to be his only one.
It would have been too predictable, far-fetched and limiting if Harry fell in love with his wife at 15! (no offence to people who married their childhood sweethearts!)

I do hope he ends up with Ginny :O)
I think she could understand him more than anyone else.
After all Cho was looking for Harry to understand her feelings but didn't think twice about how HE was feeling and about all that he went through.

After all Cho was looking for Harry to understand her feelings but didn't think twice about how HE was feeling and about all that he went through.
Well said...that always annoyed me about Cho, and she went a little psycho on him!

I do hope he ends up with Ginny :O)
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I think the whole relationship with Cho was to "prepare" Harry to relate to girls.
I like the fact that it didn't last because I didn't like her but it's clear that JK doesn't want Harry's first crush to be his only one.
It would have been too predictable, far-fetched and limiting if Harry fell in love with his wife at 15! (no offence to people who married their childhood sweethearts!)

Exactly...I'm glad it happened because it made the story more realistic...no one ever has all the luck in the world when it comes to the opposite sex..its a confusing yet wondeful journey with all sorts of twists and turns.

I really liked how JK introduced Harry to this world....and what touched me the most was when Harry said he wished he could talk to Sirius for advice about girls

I would have killed to read that conversation :tu:

Cho was treading in some very hot water by going after Harry, of all people. After going out with Cedric, considering everything that happened between Cedric and Harry last year (Triwizard, Cedric dying!), she decides that Harry is what she needs? Lordy. I'm personally glad that it looks like things are over between them; Harry doesn't need someone as emotionally unstable as Cho in his life right now.


I would have killed to read that conversation :tu:

Oh boy, me too. Although I think it would have been mostly along the lines of Sirius saying, "Just settle back and let them come to you." :)

Shauna

I think the whole relationship with Cho was to "prepare" Harry to relate to girls.
I definately agree with this. Cho was a trial run, if you will. Personally I'm glad it didn't work out between Harry and Cho, and it's not just because I don't like Cho very much. I agree that it would be too ideal for Harry to find love with his first crush. For one thing, it makes the story more interesting (and opens up all kinds of ship possibilities). I look forward to seeing who Harry will end up with.
I would have killed to read that conversation :tu:
Me too, since I've always envisioned Sirius as a lady's man.

wait before we talk about this let me get one thing strait; What is a kiss?

At first, I was really disappionted that the kiss was not described. I wanted to know exactly what happened.

But the more I think about it, the more I like how it was written. It fit with the flow of the books. I mean can you really picture "And Harry passionatly drew Cho nearer as she explored his mouth....." being in a Harry Potter book. Yuck :scared:

At first, I was really disappionted that the kiss was not described. I wanted to know exactly what happened.

But the more I think about it, the more I like how it was written. It fit with the flow of the books. I mean can you really picture "And Harry passionatly drew Cho nearer as she explored his mouth....." being in a Harry Potter book. Yuck :scared:

YUCK! You made me shiver with the thought that that could be in the books!
I agree that it just wouldn't fit in...

And another thing I thought about is that many people seem to be disappointed by the description of the kiss as "wet".
Well, it has been Harry's first kiss and as my mum uses to say: "First times are never the best times!"
It seems to be true for Harry!

I thought that is was cute that Ron thought Harry's explanation that it was wet meant something quite different until Harry explained that she was crying. So funny!

i thought it was totally sweet and cute :) as for half an hour delay, maybe he walked her back to the ravenclaw room or something. or maybe in circles in a daze :) i thought it was cute esp since he'd liked her since book 3.

i like how jk contrasted his feelings for a girl with his father's feelings for lily. both boys seemed to be kind of immature about it...come to think of it, his dad maybe even more so! :) he also seemed to be more confident about it than harry was feeling.

i thought the wet comment was hilarious! very harry. but cho definitely wasn't the one for him...we'll have to see :)

i thought the wet comment was hilarious! very harry. but cho definitely wasn't the one for him...we'll have to see

i think that the comment is more ron than harry. i disliked ron's reaction.

i doubt that harry and cho fall in love again. harry just thought that she is pretty. he doesn't lnow her.

Originally posted by Kelfa21
I would have killed to read that conversation :tu:

Oh boy, me too. Although I think it would have been mostly along the lines of Sirius saying, "Just settle back and let them come to you." :)

Shauna
Oh man, funny stuff. Sirius would tell Harry that, he's kind of a player. :p
I thought the kiss was kind of funny actually, and sweet considering it was Harry's first. When he said wet, I thought it was a typical boy comment, a girl would have started talking about how she felt. I did want to bang my head when they went to Madam Puddifoot's, he didn't pretend to think it was cute, what a guy. I'm glad they broke up, Cho needed a lady's man who would talk her through her crying and Harry needed a cool girlfriend who would keep his mind off things.

I thought that is was cute that Ron thought Harry's explanation that it was wet meant something quite different until Harry explained that she was crying. So funny!
:lol: Naughty Ron!!!

I like that Cho was Harry's first kiss...his first crush should be his first kiss, that seems only right. But she's entirely too emotionally distraught/fragile for Harry. Poor boy has enough to worry about without having to worry about keeping Cho & her feelings/emotions held together with Super Glue.

As I've said before, I think Harry needs a strong, clever, cunning and capable Witch, someone who can actually take care of him, not the other way 'round. Hmmmm, that sounds a bit like... *cough*GINNY*cough* :p

Oh man, funny stuff. Sirius would tell Harry that, he's kind of a player. :p
I thought the kiss was kind of funny actually, and sweet considering it was Harry's first. When he said wet, I thought it was a typical boy comment, a girl would have started talking about how she felt. I did want to bang my head when they went to Madam Puddifoot's, he didn't pretend to think it was cute, what a guy. I'm glad they broke up, Cho needed a lady's man who would talk her through her crying and Harry needed a cool girlfriend who would keep his mind of things.
I agree, Harry definitely needs someone more, stable.
The kiss was very cute. JK didn't describe how it happened, which i thought was good, because she left it to our imagination, how we thought it happened.
But, i'm sure this question has been asked, why did Harry only get back to the common room, a half hour later? hmmmm. What went on there.

I really like what Jinxie Cat had to say, I think that there could be a Harry and Ginny thing. I just am feeling like 95% sure that there cant be something between Harry and Hermione because then Ron would be really left out. Not just physically left out but more emotionally. Its like he would be out of "The Trio." Harry is his own person and doesnt require a lot of attention from others and he often likes being by himself. I think he would like it if Ron and Hermione went out.
What's up with all the heroners and chocolaters, eh? Ron doesn't have to be alone when, yes when, Harry and Hermione finally become a couple, because there's a girl named Luna Lovegood around now. ;) And why can't Ginny stay with Dean Thomas? And even if they break up and she starts looking from a new guy, she can surely find another one than Harry. JKR can do anything.

I soooo love the kissing bit. When I read it I laughed so hard, everytime. Harry's classic confused boy I-have-no-clue but I-am-floating-on cloud-9 reaction. Love it when he described the kiss as wet :rotfl: and Ron's oh-my-god-really reaction.
I think it was really well done and kinda proves the point that girls mature earlier than boys. I saw that coming and so did Hermione but the boys are just so...boys. There are times I feel like Harry cannot get a hint unless it is written in neon lights the size of his four poster bed.

I have always hoped Harry ended up with Ginny, because it would be so perfect, so when they kissed, all I kept thinking in my head was "oh, poor Ginny" and "no! Ginny and Him are supposed to be in love, then, die, then their son will have to face an evil sorcerer, have a scar on his head, and befriend a bushy haired muggleborn, who falls for the tall red head!" but, I never liked Cho's charactor, even from the fourth book.

Harry and Ginny would be cute.. i just it doesnt cause issues with Ron and Harrys friendship.. then again Ron does have Hermione.. just as long as he wises up a bit..

Again, the heroners/chocolaters invade this thread. This is not the love thread, so I'm really not supossed to talk about this here, but puh-lease! There is no sign that Harry ever liked Ginny like that or that Ginny likes Harry like that anymore. There is also no sign of such feelings between Ron and Hermione, and even if they were in love, they wouldn't get further than Harry did with Cho because of their differences. However, there is a special bound between Harry and Hermione that he doesn't have any other girl and she doesn't have with another boy. Also, Luna obviously likes Ron. As for Ginny, she can stay with Dean Thomas, and even if she doesn't, half the wizard population is male, so she should be able to find a new guy if she wanted to. How about Neville? OK, I rest my case now, since this isn't the right thread.

On topic however, this can't be said too often: I always disliked it when Harry liked Cho, and I hated the kiss. Cho is maybe not a bad person, but she was just a preety girl and nothing else, and I just didn't feel they belonged to each other. Actually, Cedric was more Cho's kind of boy, so I pity her for losing him.

Hi,

I think the kiss was fine, more interesting to me , which struck quickly to me really was, the way Hermione asks Harry, You Kissed her or She kissed you ..something or the other.....

I mean this was too mcuh for me. I really doubt whether a girl is similar relationship, similar age, will ask such question...???

What do you girls here have to say on this????

Another point I imagine is that If Harry likes Asian features, may be he would opt for Parvati or Padma, who would happily go for a celebrity...

Mr HP

Aw !

Eh, I'm not much of a Cho fan. She seems like the exceptionally whiny type, and she goes to whoever is the most goodlooking and popular guy of the moment.

I don't read Potter for the romance, but the plot and storyline, so the "kiss" scene was meaningless to me.

ok: i think that the harry/cho thing is done, but they can still be friends, and possibly create rumours. but what about harry/parvati? come on! all the signs were there! i think they should get together.

Parvati is too shallow for Harry, I think. She's one of those girls who like Harry because he's famous. Oh and what's with the giggling? *Bimbo*

She is beautiful, but she isn´t a good girlfriend

Well I thought the whole Cho/Harry thing was hilarious :rotfl:
I read a fanfic with Harry/Parvati once, but it took place in seventh year, and it made Parvati seem like a smarter, more mature person, I think it was on MNI, in Flourish and Blotts, if anyone was interested.

[QUOTE=Hermione's Twin]I think that JK did this thing with Cho so Harry could have a good understanding of a childhood sweetheart thing and he'll be better prepared in the next books for a relationship.

I agree. Whether with Ginny or someone else, a relationship for Harry is going to figure in, and it will be more "real" the next time.

Another point I imagine is that If Harry likes Asian features, may be he would opt for Parvati or Padma, who would happily go for a celebrity...
Parvati and Padma are Indian (come on, Padma is an Indian girl's name and Parvati is an Indian goddess), while Cho is Chinese (Cho means fall or autumn in Chinese). Indian and Chinese is not the same thing. Furthermore, Harry and Ron allready had a date with Parvati and Padma and weren't interested of them at all, and Harry should opt for Hermione and Ron should opt for Luna.

ok: i think that the harry/cho thing is done, but they can still be friends, and possibly create rumours. but what about harry/parvati? come on! all the signs were there! i think they should get together.
What signs? There are no **** signs of Harry and Parvati getting together! Puh-lease! Please read above in this post.

Parvati is too shallow for Harry, I think. She's one of those girls who like Harry because he's famous. Oh and what's with the giggling? *Bimbo*
Right on sister! :clap:

Harry and Pavarti, :rotfl: never even contemplated that? Do you think Harry could stand all the giggling?

I think his relationship with Cho is important, but not in the sense that it will continue. I thinkk it will help him when he moves on and finds someone els, which I ultimately think he will.

I think there is way too much baggage with Cho for her and Harry to develop a solid relationship. I think they will stay friends...but I think even Harry realised that whatever there was between them has died...His relationship with Cho was all good for the life he was leading then, but with everything he has to deal with now, I don't think it will be strong enough. Am I making sense or am I babbling?

I never liked Cho much. I thought she was too coy and immature for Harry, and her little stunt on that Hogsmeade visit proved me right. I nearly had a nervous breakdown when they kissed. ...well, not really. But I wasn't happy about it. He can do better. Much better. I truly believe they're over and done with. And while we're on the topic, I'm alright with Ginny's character, but I really hope Rowling develops her some more, personality wise, before she hooks her up with Harry. She doesn't seem to have any distinct qualities yet.

Well, she's hooking him up with Hermione, so we don't have to worry about Ginny.

I never thought much about Cho before Phoenix, we never knew much about her because we saw her through Harry's eyes, and he was just infatuated. I mainly wnated them to go out because Harry did. I just thought the whole thing was just so cute. I love Harry and Ron's conversation. They sounds so careless and completely naive. "Wet", I ask of you.

The conversation with Hermione afterwards was hilarious as well. A classic infact.

But, i'm sure this question has been asked, why did Harry only get back to the common room, a half hour later? hmmmm. What went on there.

I was wondering the same thing. That must have been SOME KISS! And then Harry thinks "of course she would have been expecting him to ask her out after what had just happened." After just a quick kiss under the misletoe? Hmmmmm... :eyebrows:

I think Cho is very shallow and that she only wanted Harry because he is "Famous Harry Potter" and she went out with Cedric because he was extremely handsome and was school champion. I think she purposely situated herself under that mistletoe and decided to turn on the tears :upset: to get Harry's attention. Really Cho, a simple hem hem would have been sufficient!

Yeah, I agree. Like I said, I was never Cho's biggest fan, and I'm going to hate having to watch that part in the movie theater when it comes out. *gag* I'll probably close my eyes. But about the "half an hour" thing... I just assumed he stayed there and let her ramble on about Cedric and stuff for a bit, which is why it took him so long to get back to the common room.. but hey, anything coulda happened, right? ;) ...but God, if that was even subtlely implied, I would have ripped out the pages and burned them.

I think Parvati is alittle... weird... whats with the giggling thing?? Plus, i think she only likes Harry because he's famous.

As for Harry and Cho. Don't even get me started on that. I absolutly HATE Cho. :grumble: Since she was first mentioned in the books, i have had a bad feeling about her. She only cares about her popularity. Why else whould she stand up for Marietta like that, when she almost got her expelled? She also seriously needs to get over Cedric. I know, he died and it's really sad, but its been more than a year and she's crying over him in dates. How wierd is that?? I mean Harry lost his whole family, Sirius, ( :upset: ) and he has to live with evil muggles, i think that should be something to cry about a while after. :agree:

I don't like Cho much either. On the kiss, the first time I read it, I found it weird and un-Harrylike. The next day, two of my friends and I took turns reading it aloud in extremely silly voices. Another thing, all she has probably hearing all summer is that Harry is crazy, and even though she does not believe it herself, her thoughts are probably tainted by it.

Here's how I think it is.

The reason why Cho cries all the time isn't solely because Cedric is dead... It's because Cedric is dead and HARRY was the one who was with him when he died... nobody else who would answer. So maybe Cho has a haunting thought in the back of her head that maybe it WAS Harry who killed Cedric, whether it was accident, a fit of insane rage, or pre-meditated, she thought it was possible. Now that everyone KNOWS that Voldemort is back, she KNOWS that Voldemort killed Cedric, not Harry.

I think that Harry and Cho have at least awkward romantic entanglements in the future.

im not a huge fan of cho's either XD but then harry was a bit overly into cho. i think hermione may be right about why cho is crying. part of the reason may be cedric, but cho did start blushing when harry asked her to the yule ball. so she *might* actually like harry also. maybe she just agreed to go with cedric for the timebeing or sumthin. i am guessing that she likes harry more than cedric though. when she heard that harry was going to see hermione in hogsmeade on valentines day she practically blew up. if she liked cedric that much, she would have blown up a million times because cedric is supposedly so handsome and everything

I think Cho was nothing more than a first crush for Harry.

I think Cho really liked Harry already, before the yule ball, she even remembered their match from PoA. I don't dislike Cho as much as many of you. Try to see it from her perspective: She likes Harry, but is asked by Cedric first, and is really sorry she said yes when Harry askes her. Well, Cedric is his charming self, and she falls in love with him. Then, he dies under extremely strange cicumstances, which only one person can tell her. Harry. But she still has a little crush on him (and I don't think it's because he's famous) and is now torn between grief, the fact that it is very strange to be a bit in love with the one person who saw the person you were dating die, and all the other stuff Hermione mentions. Off course you are going to cry. But of course, as time goes by, and Harry still shows signs of liking you, you want to try to get closer, and what is a better way to get closer than to get under a mistletoe, nargles or not, but at the moment supreme she is again torn between all her emotions, and she cries, I didn't think that strange or attentionseeking.
The fact that she protects Marietta just tells her that she protects her friends, even though she knows it was wrong of her, also, that conversation was charged with a lot of emotions even before it started, so she could also be defending just to get to Harry at that point, that's very natural.
I think she was indeed written in to give Harry his first experiences, and because giving Harry a girlfriend so early would be boring, I think there will be a different girl in the end.
I think Ron and Hermione are a match made in heaven, which already dates back to at least CoS. Ginny or Luna would make fine matches for Harry. I'm not going to say that some ships 'make sense' because that's nonsense, if there's one part of life that never makes sense, it's relationships!

I think it is a part of the books that should have been removed... I don't see the point...

I didn't see the point in having a kiss either. But anyway, they are just kids and most kids think their first kiss is yucky. Well it depends on their age and maturity, too. I mean, wet...probably just about sums it up for Harry right now. It didn't mean anything and well..she was crying all over him, so it couldn't have been much fun.

I think the kiss was there for two reasons. One: to show that Harry is a fairly normal 15 year old boy with normal feelings. There was the Prophet going around and saying he was deranged. Now I don't know what anyone else was like at 15, but I certainaly didn't think kissing was a bad thing. But then I'm a girl and Harry is a boy and I didn't cry like Cho either......

Two: To give Harry normal teen experiences. Teen romance, gotta love it. Full of angst and pain or whatever. Full of something that's for sure. As much as I got tired of it, especially Cho's end, it was a nice diversion in his life. It allowed Harry to think about something other than Umbridge and Voldemort. At least Harry didn't go into a tailspin over Cho, that would have been annoying and out of character.