"Magicology" Advances in 19 years later

skullangel
July 8th, 2008, 10:56 pm
I read in a thread earlier about what the magical world lacks. For us its Tech-nology for them its Magic-ology

So I decided to write this and ask, 19 years later what what kind of advances would be made in the magical world.

Personally by this time, I think by this time they would already have an equivalent to Television, maybe a derivate of the Wizarding wireless, and would look like a 1950s TV set with exposed vacum tubes.

Wizarding laptop computers by then looking like ornate wooden boxes inside old style commdore 64 keyboards and a the top has an "ancient" LCD screen
the computer has a wizarding version of the internet attached either to the wizarding wireless set or "firewire:lol:" attached to the floo network on the other end when you say "Server" We're talking about enchanted bookshelves in vaults underneath diagon alley or at the ministry or individual households with enchanted bookshelves, wanna update a file pull out a book and write on it or add an additional page with parchment and quill...

Any guesses guys?

The Pirate King
July 9th, 2008, 9:44 am
If I were of Harry's generation, the one thing I'd want 19 years on would be more secure communications! Owls with messages that could only be read by the recipient, for example--the wizarding equivalent of PGP encryption. Some witch or wizard could stand to make a nice neat pile of Galleons with that innovation.

I suspect that, with more Muggleborn witches and wizards in positions of power throughout the wizarding world, you would get more crossover inventions--Muggle-esque devices run by magical means. (I for one would love to use a wizarding computer hooked up to the Floonet--no longer limited to passing information, you could fmail each other small creatures, teacups, and pieces of pizza!)

Opaleye_Draco
July 9th, 2008, 12:47 pm
They'll end up with a square piece of glass that acts like a computer, tv, etc. and all they have to do is talk into it and the writing, or the right tv show etc. turns up.

Magi
July 9th, 2008, 1:35 pm
I think JKR once said that wizards don't need the internet because they have something better. I'd be curious for her to elaborate on it further.

The idea of Floonet and Floomail sounds great. :D However if you could Floomail physical items, spam Floomail would be terrible. Can you imagine getting 100+ spam floomail per day on your "Hot"-mail account? :p

Something that could be very useful is improved mode of intercontinental transport. Right now wizards are limited to using specially-arranged Portkeys, or flying on brooms. If they could have portal terminals (at Ministries of Magic or some other public magical place) where people could just walk through a magical gate to another country, that would really boost international magical commerce and travel.

Hanover_Fist
July 10th, 2008, 2:00 am
Perhaps websites that can only be accessed by wizards, and would have a .wiz address.

In addition to magical TV, there might also be a wizard version of video games. I've seen some fics that have introduced a DragonStation. Love that idea. Harry's kids would want "Grand Theft Broom," but would not be allowed to play it, as Harry objects to the player being able to kill Aurors in the game.:lol:

Anhelda
July 10th, 2008, 3:01 am
How about a magical version of a "Kindle" e-book reader--parchment that has been magically loaded with multiple books, and you just tap it, tell the parchment which book you want to read, then keep turning it over and over to "flip" the pages as you go through the book. Just think, now Hermione can carry the entire Hogwarts library on just one page of parchment and no longer needs to break her back with that heavy bookbag.

Asgardian
July 11th, 2008, 12:08 am
I don't really see the wizarding world wanting the muggle world style of equipment.

More along the lines of what they have done to improve magic,

-- can all wizards now fly as LV did in DH?
-- has the usage of Hermione's message coins spread?
-- do many wizards hex contracts?
-- has the Ministry used taboo words to find dark wizards?
-- do wandmakers now take care to not make twin wands?
-- have Goblins, house elfs, centaurs etc gained rights?

Halo001
July 11th, 2008, 4:30 am
There would be plenty of improvements. Magical cars probably go into fashion. On that thought, why not have magical planes, tanks, submarines,etc. if they have magical cars and motorcycles? imagine the damage one of those could cause! The two way mirrors could be connected to a larger set of mirrors, giving wizards the equivalent of a cell phone. A magic television should not be impossible if magic radios are commonplace. As the two worlds become closer, they would influence each other. How about goblin made firearms? Some kind of magic video games-these can't be to hard to make. If they can make a sentient hat, then a de facto program is certainly possible.
Wew, long rant.

Magi
July 17th, 2008, 1:04 am
-- can all wizards now fly as LV did in DH?My impression was that LV's flying was by using Dark Magic.
-- has the usage of Hermione's message coins spread?I think it might be a one-off fad for school students, but not something wide-spread.

The general principle of using the Protean Charm for that kind of purpose, is probably wide spread, though.

-- do many wizards hex contracts?Well, it would be a nice way to make sure the contract is obeyed! :lol:
-- has the Ministry used taboo words to find dark wizards?It would be hard to engineer. What word/name would the Ministry use?
-- do wandmakers now take care to not make twin wands?There is really no reason to avoid it.
-- have Goblins, house elfs, centaurs etc gained rights?We know that Hermione has made life easier for House Elves, so they at least would have some rights recognised by law.

I don't think it's up to wizards to govern the rights of Goblins and Centaurs. They are self-determinate societies who can take care of themselves.

Asgardian
July 20th, 2008, 4:46 pm
I don't think it's up to wizards to govern the rights of Goblins and Centaurs. They are self-determinate societies who can take care of themselves.

However in the Potter universe wizards do exercise control over both of those societies, --

Goblins are denied the use of wands
Centaurs are denied the freedom to roam wherever

Clearly both of those races have survived with lesser rights, something which should be corrected in the post LV wizard world.

Magi
July 21st, 2008, 12:55 am
However in the Potter universe wizards do exercise control over both of those societies, --

Goblins are denied the use of wands
Centaurs are denied the freedom to roam wherever

Clearly both of those races have survived with lesser rights, something which should be corrected in the post LV wizard world.

Goblins are denied use of wands because wands are unique wizarding inventions. As Ron rightly pointed out, Goblins deny wizards their secret arts of metal craft and forging. Both societies deny each other their secrets. Goblins do not have a "right" to use wands, just as wizards do not have a "right" to forcibly obtain Goblin secrets.

Keep in mind that Goblins basically control the wizarding economy. That's an enormous base of power.

For Centaurs, it appeared to me that they are confined (in the UK at least) to the Forbidden Forest on mutual agreement, rather than by force. In Book 5, the Ministry tried to restrict their territories, but the Centaurs didn't seem to take heed of it. I don't think Centaurs would obey wizarding laws, unless if they themselves saw benefit.

RemusLupinFan
July 21st, 2008, 10:52 pm
The idea of Floovision or Floomail is very interesting! ;) I tend to think, though, that advances in "magicology" will be the development of new and more sophisticated spells that can achieve better results than their predecessors, rather than "magicifying" muggle technology. We have already seen some advances in magic via Snape and Dumbledore inventing spells and doing new things with a wand, so it doesn't seem unlikely that others will do the same thing and think of new ways to express magic.

MmeBergerac
July 23rd, 2008, 3:38 pm
I hope that 19 years later they've managed to get a better government... It's shameful how easily Voldemort got hold of everything.

Anhelda, your idea of the magical MS-Reader is wonderful. I want one for me, I don't know where to store so many books... :lol:

I would add a magical version of mp3: the complete discography of Bach on the palm of your hand, without memory limits...

Anhelda
July 23rd, 2008, 5:20 pm
I hope that 19 years later they've managed to get a better government... It's shameful how easily Voldemort got hold of everything.

Anhelda, your idea of the magical MS-Reader is wonderful. I want one for me, I don't know where to store so many books... :lol:

I would add a magical version of mp3: the complete discography of Bach on the palm of your hand, without memory limits...

Thanks, I could use one of those reader parchments too--I've got books on practically every surface of the house, and I alway struggle to choose which one or two to take with me on trips, because my suitcase can't hold the whole library...

The Bach player sounds heavenly...:rockon:

And I totally agree on the government reform. It's actually pretty hard to be impressed with the magical world if Voldemort can take control so easily. (On the other hand, I live in the US, and given the last 7 years of our history, maybe I shouldn't be the one to talk...)

MmeBergerac
July 24th, 2008, 12:55 pm
The best advance would be to admit good ideas, no matter they're muggle or magical. For instance, I never understood that wizards still use candles instead of bulbs, when candlelight is worse and you always have the danger of a fire. Surely they can make bulbs work without electricity.

The same for writing: quill and parchment, so much more expensive than pen and paper? It would be fine at least to get over the Quick-Quote-Quill to the Quick-Quote-Typewriter.

Graduand_Esk
July 24th, 2008, 11:34 pm
The best advance would be to admit good ideas, no matter they're muggle or magical. For instance, I never understood that wizards still use candles instead of bulbs, when candlelight is worse and you always have the danger of a fire. Surely they can make bulbs work without electricity.

The same for writing: quill and parchment, so much more expensive than pen and paper? It would be fine at least to get over the Quick-Quote-Quill to the Quick-Quote-Typewriter.

:agree: I agree with all of this. Using non-wizard items and technology would also show that anti-muggle prejudice is dying out, a very positive development. Provided a device wasn't electrical, (magic interferes with electricity, doesn't it?) there's no reason why it couldn't be made use of by wizards if they found it useful.

In magical developments, a cure for lycanthropy would be a wondeful thing. Too late for poor Lupin, but brilliant news for many others.

lily_potter73
August 2nd, 2008, 5:47 pm
My self I dont think they need any inventions, they've got magic :cool: or its sort of -muggles want magic and wizards want technology-:lol:
I think they'll just discover more things like Dumbledore discovere uses of Dragon's blood.

xFluerDelacourx
August 2nd, 2008, 7:01 pm
I would think with magic you wouldn't need technology and really I don't want the magical world too have technology. Part of the endearment of the HP world is theres no tech stuff. Its possible to progress without technology.

Voldemorts8thHorcrux
August 14th, 2008, 5:50 pm
I'm not too sure how fast the wizarding world will advance though. All these are highly possible, but I'm not sure they will all appear in Harry's generation. There could be a "television", from combining the traditional moving pictures with a radio. A wizarding telephone would be kind of nice too, but since there's a two way mirror and floo powder anyway so they probably wouldn't bother.

Rush
August 14th, 2008, 7:14 pm
You've got to think also that a lot of electronique equipment won't work near wizard dwellings. Hogwarts for example and I'm sure many wizard homes are also like this. Wizard's just don't need new technology, they get along perfectrly well how they are. Also a lot of stuff that technology does can be done with a wand (e.g. light)

firefly20angel
August 15th, 2008, 3:10 pm
Wow, you guys have thought of alot of different ideas. The floo-net would be hilarious but somehow I think implausable. I think I agree mostly with Rush...they just don't need internet and television and alot of the other technolgy-based items we've grown to depend on. I think advances in magic would be like new spells or potions, and alot of new magical inventions, I'd love to know what George and Ron have cooked up for the shop!