The All-Inclusive HBP Thread, v.12

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DML1991
November 3rd, 2008, 5:04 am
Can I say again, once more with feeling, that 2 hours was the perfect length for the OotP film (which I love) and I do not care tuppence about OotP being the longest book.

In all seriousness: why would that film need to be longer? :hmm:

I don't care whether HBP is 2 hours or 2.5 hours, all I care about is that it's a good film, with good pacing. It shouldn't drag and it shouldn't feel rushed. I didn't find the OotP film rushed, the pacing felt fine to me.
Outside of the first 20 or so minutes of OOTP, I agree. However, I thought the book was overlong and quite dull, so I'm certainly biased on that note.

That said, I think based off what we've heard, HBP mostly gets everything right. Not too much darkness, not too much comedy, everything appears to be right. But, I still think there should have been a DADA lesson, if only because we would get a great scene of Snape as the DADA teacher finally and it sets up the inferi that plays a huge importance as scene of the film. It's both a great scene, as well as a necessary one. Plus this will be the first film that doesn't even show a DADA scene (remember SS did have a brief scene of Minerva interrupting class to get Harry).

Marina
November 3rd, 2008, 5:13 am
When first I saw the trailer, my hopes for the film soared. I especially loved the sea with the cave, and had that treacherous feeling about it. :tu: I think Gambon might actually have Dumbledore down pat this time unlike a certain film I can name *cough*gof*cough*.

stacyINC
November 3rd, 2008, 11:37 am
I don't like them adding scenes into it. I also did not know they are removing the "Unbreakable vow" scene from the opening?


The Tom Riddle trailer was better for me.

SiriuslyHP
November 3rd, 2008, 12:15 pm
I can't believe that they have made Harry out to be some big-headed, fame-loving, horny teenager (Or that's how I feel).
At the end of the new HBP trailer they show Harry gawking at Romilda Vane, who Harry can't stand in the books, with him pretty much saying he could get anyone because he's the 'Chosen One'. I mean come on?!?! When has Harry ever acted like that before?
AND they have also added and additional scene of Harry trying to chat up a waitress as he waits for Dumbledore in the Leaky Cauldron. Now im not saying that I think that Harry shouldn't do this or that adding scenes of him flirting with other girls apart from Cho or Ginny are wrong, im simply saying that making Harry out to be someone who thinks he can get any girl because his famous is wrong. In the books he totally dispises(sp?) being famous and doesn't like shallow girls like Romilda Vane because they only like him for his fame.
It just dissapoints and annoys me that they've changed his character.. :(

arithmancer
November 3rd, 2008, 2:41 pm
I don't like them adding scenes into it. I also did not know they are removing the "Unbreakable vow" scene from the opening?

Unless you are referring to some new information, that scene is in. It was in the version test-screened in Chicago this summer, and a still photo of Snape and Cissy holding hands, with Bella standing next to their clasped hands, has been released.

ArryGrotter
November 3rd, 2008, 6:41 pm
Unless you are referring to some new information, that scene is in. It was in the version test-screened in Chicago this summer, and a still photo of Snape and Cissy holding hands, with Bella standing next to their clasped hands, has been released.

The only different is that the scene will occur after Harry arrives at the Burrow :)

Bscorp
November 3rd, 2008, 7:26 pm
The only different is that the scene will occur after Harry arrives at the Burrow :)

Whha wha whaaaat? I'm sorry- I can't keep up with this thread. Can you point me to a link for this info?

Does anything think this tweak may be doing Dumbledore's death a little differently? Perhaps they shot it a extra scene that makes it more clear that Snape is the one who kills Dumbledore (I was looking at several different reviews yesterday and one review in particular said that while you know Snape is the one who kills him, the way it's shot doesn't make it very clear), and I'm not sure about the idea of him falling out of a window. It depends on how they do it, of course, I'm just slightly worried.

Oh please don't tell me that they did something stupid like cut away to Harry's face at the very moment Snape lays on the AK! I could see Yates doing something like that in order to save the little kids the "trauma" of seeing Dumbledore hit in the chest with a direct shot. We saw Cedric get hit directly- they had better not cut away from Dumbledore.

If that is the case I will throw something at the screen!

lcbaseball22
November 3rd, 2008, 8:57 pm
Whha wha whaaaat? I'm sorry- I can't keep up with this thread. Can you point me to a link for this info?


Well, all info about the film can be found here :) http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=117938

but as to the source of this info, numerous test screening viewers mentioned it

arithmancer
November 3rd, 2008, 9:11 pm
The only different is that the scene will occur after Harry arrives at the Burrow :)

So, shortly before Harry goes to Diagon Alley? I think I like this change, it brings it closer to Harry's meeting with Draco and Cissy in Diagon Alley.

PureBloodGirl
November 3rd, 2008, 9:24 pm
Does that mean Dumbledore will be fighting in that Burrow scene?

eaglestreasure
November 3rd, 2008, 9:33 pm
Does that mean Dumbledore will be fighting in that Burrow scene?

From what I understand, yeah:)

I think that change is kinda nice, I've always wanted to see a scene like that

lcbaseball22
November 3rd, 2008, 10:19 pm
So, shortly before Harry goes to Diagon Alley? I think I like this change, it brings it closer to Harry's meeting with Draco and Cissy in Diagon Alley.

According to Rachel the Madam Malkins Robes scene was omitted. The only scenes in Diagon Alley are the WWW Joke shop scene and the Borkin & Burkes scene...which will include Cissy, Draco, and Greyback but is shot from the outside with no dialogue :hmm:

Does that mean Dumbledore will be fighting in that Burrow scene?From what I understand, yeah:)

I think that change is kinda nice, I've always wanted to see a scene like that

err, what?! :yuhup:

I have no idea where you heard or read that, but that is NOT happening :whistle:

The Burrow Attack is simply a crappy scene that they added in replace of the awesome skirmish within Hogwarts at the end of the book. Lupin, Tonks, Arthur, Molly, Fred, George, Harry, Ron, and Ginny are present. Harry and Ginny are about to kiss when the Death Eaters interrupt and attack the Burrow creating a surrounding ring of fire as seen in the trailer. There is no Dumbledore involved in this what-so-ever. And according to all the test screen viewers it was a contrived scene to inject action into the middle of the movie. :grumble:

mrfutterman
November 3rd, 2008, 10:36 pm
When first I saw the trailer, my hopes for the film soared. I especially loved the sea with the cave, and had that treacherous feeling about it.

"Treacherous"? Why "treacherous"?

eaglestreasure
November 3rd, 2008, 11:15 pm
According to Rachel the Madam Malkins Robes scene was omitted. The only scenes in Diagon Alley are the WWW Joke shop scene and the Borkin & Burkes scene...which will include Cissy, Draco, and Greyback but is shot from the outside with no dialogue :hmm:



err, what?! :yuhup:

I have no idea where you heard or read that, but that is NOT happening :whistle:

The Burrow Attack is simply a crappy scene that they added in replace of the awesome skirmish within Hogwarts at the end of the book. Lupin, Tonks, Arthur, Molly, Fred, George, Harry, Ron, and Ginny are present. Harry and Ginny are about to kiss when the Death Eaters interrupt and attack the Burrow creating a surrounding ring of fire as seen in the trailer. There is no Dumbledore involved in this what-so-ever. And according to all the test screen viewers it was a contrived scene to inject action into the middle of the movie. :grumble:

Then how come there's a picture online of McGonagall clearing away the Dark Mark with students surrounding her?:huh:

That couldn't possibly be at the Burrow. Hang on, I'm confused...:yuhup:

Any help unconfusing me would be appreciated...

lcbaseball22
November 3rd, 2008, 11:42 pm
Then how come there's a picture online of McGonagall clearing away the Dark Mark with students surrounding her?:huh:

That couldn't possibly be at the Burrow. Hang on, I'm confused...:yuhup:

Any help unconfusing me would be appreciated...

Huh? Your confusing me with your being confused :p :lol:


Well, of course Dumbledore is still going to be killed by Snape...but there is no skirmish at Hogwarts...the Death Eaters simply infiltrate the castle, the deed is done and they stroll on out without any confrontation other than Harry chasing them down. And it's ridiculous cause Dumbledore's lines in the trailer convey that he realizes there is a threat and that Hogwarts is in danger yet what does he do when they leave for the cave?

Unlike in the book, he leaves the school completely unprotected: no aurors standing guard or security enchantments...heck, the Death Eaters don't even need the cabinet entry when they can just stroll in through the gates. Dumbledore clearly has no regard for the students safety...at least this is what the movie will convey :grumble:

Anyways, that scene with McGonagall clearing away the Dark Mark (we assume) with the students surrounding her is where they are all gathered around Dumbledore's dead body in mourning and conducting a sort of wand light vigil (I believe this has been described by many already) You wanna tell me how you were under the impression that this scene was at the Burrow?! :whistle:

BTW, the description of this scene is also in the LIST (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=117938):

Test screening viewers tell us of the discovery of Dumbledore’s body:

Harry then returns to find the whole school gathered around Dumbledore's body, McGonagall in the front completely stunned and silent. Harry kneels down at Dumbledore's side, brushes a hair out of his face and finds the locket, but does not open it. Clutching the locket He starts to cry and Ginny goes and holds him also crying. Then following McGonagall's lead, everyone lights there wand (I think they all murmur something in unison but I can't remember what) and slowly raise them as one in the air. Final shot of that scene is from above with all the lighted wands surrounding the tower, Dumbledore, Harry and Ginny

The scene with Dumbledore's body at the foot of the tower is very, very cool... I cried. Everyone is gathered around - I mean, lots of students, faculty, etc. Harry is next to the body, crying, and Ginny is comforting him - all of the others are keeping a respectful distance. Someone - I don't remember whom - raises their wand in the air, lighted up at the tip, and everyone else slowly follows suit as the camera pans out until all you can see are the lighted tips of the raised wands

Well, I hope that clears it up :)

cupsoftea
November 4th, 2008, 12:42 am
I love, love, love the trailer! It looks awesome!! And the 'fight back you coward'!! Ahhh!!

Its looking like what I now expect of a HP film, a couple of hours of good entertainment!


I can't believe that they have made Harry out to be some big-headed, fame-loving, horny teenager (Or that's how I feel).
At the end of the new HBP trailer they show Harry gawking at Romilda Vane, who Harry can't stand in the books, with him pretty much saying he could get anyone because he's the 'Chosen One'. I mean come on?!?! When has Harry ever acted like that before?
AND they have also added and additional scene of Harry trying to chat up a waitress as he waits for Dumbledore in the Leaky Cauldron. Now im not saying that I think that Harry shouldn't do this or that adding scenes of him flirting with other girls apart from Cho or Ginny are wrong, im simply saying that making Harry out to be someone who thinks he can get any girl because his famous is wrong. In the books he totally dispises(sp?) being famous and doesn't like shallow girls like Romilda Vane because they only like him for his fame.
It just dissapoints and annoys me that they've changed his character.. :(

I know loads of people are giving out about this scene with Romilda, but honestly the way I see it is just that Harry has noticed a girl checking him out, and from how I interpreted how he says that "but I am the Chosen One" in such a take the mickey kind of way, he's just having a laugh with his best mate and is no more considering Romilda or using his fame to get a girl. Thats how I see it. I think they may have Harry being more lighthearted in his reaction to the female attention than in the book but I dont think theyre downright making him bigheaded and fame loving. Though he is probably horny, most teenage boys are ;)

cyberquill
November 4th, 2008, 1:12 am
e are giving out about this scene with Romilda, but honestly the way I see it is just that Harry has noticed a girl checking him out, and from how I interpreted how he says that "but I am the Chosen One" in such a take the mickey kind of way, he's just having a laugh with his best mate and is no more considering Romilda or using his fame to get a girl. Thats how I see it. I think they may have Harry being more lighthearted in his reaction to the female attention than in the book but I dont think theyre downright making him bigheaded and fame loving. Though he is probably horny, most teenage boys are ;)

well in half bld prince didn't harry say he was in luv with romilda vane anyhoo?

arithmancer
November 4th, 2008, 1:49 am
well in half bld prince didn't harry say he was in luv with romilda vane anyhoo?

No, he did not. Perhaps you are thinking of the scene in which Ron ate candy spiked with a love potion?

DML1991
November 4th, 2008, 3:11 am
Oh please don't tell me that they did something stupid like cut away to Harry's face at the very moment Snape lays on the AK! I could see Yates doing something like that in order to save the little kids the "trauma" of seeing Dumbledore hit in the chest with a direct shot. We saw Cedric get hit directly- they had better not cut away from Dumbledore.

If that is the case I will throw something at the screen!Actually from what I've heard we actually see him fall...

wickedwickedboy
November 4th, 2008, 3:34 am
The Burrow Attack is simply a crappy scene that they added in replace of the awesome skirmish within Hogwarts at the end of the book. Lupin, Tonks, Arthur, Molly, Fred, George, Harry, Ron, and Ginny are present. Harry and Ginny are about to kiss when the Death Eaters interrupt and attack the Burrow creating a surrounding ring of fire as seen in the trailer. There is no Dumbledore involved in this what-so-ever. And according to all the test screen viewers it was a contrived scene to inject action into the middle of the movie. :grumble:

Well it sounds like they are putting a bit more effort into Harry and Ginny than what was in the books. Moviegoers like that stuff. Actually, from what they say in forums, so do book readers. But for me, I was fine with what we got, lol. Nonetheless, I won't complain about extra action, that is never bad. It didn't look crappy in the trailer, it looked pretty cool.

I don't understand taking the squirmish at the end out though...I mean, how will they do Dumbledore's death without it?

ArryGrotter
November 4th, 2008, 3:40 am
I don't understand taking the squirmish at the end out though...I mean, how will they do Dumbledore's death without it?

Easy. Afterall, they are already pretty much defeated once Dumdledore is killed. They still have Harry running after Snape so that is ok :)

MrsPadfoot07
November 4th, 2008, 3:51 am
I've just watched a new trailer to half blood prince OMG it's awesome they showed quite a bit, I so can't wait to see this film!!!

DML1991
November 4th, 2008, 3:53 am
New interview with Tom Felton...

http://snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/tom-felton-talks-draco-half-blood-prince-deathly-hallows-60009/

Pretty good, his performance is one of the parts I'm anticipating most.

boushh
November 4th, 2008, 5:14 am
Me too. It was a good interview and I'm still looking forward to this movie. :)

Thanks for posting the link!

Fury
November 4th, 2008, 12:48 pm
Excellent interview with Tom Felton. I totally forgot about Draco crying in HBP until then. Glad it's in, it will be cool to see Tom cry.

And I really do hope they go well with the battle scene in the RoR in DH. Would love to see the fire!

yoshi2542
November 4th, 2008, 8:49 pm
It will be interesting to see if Felton can pull off Draco in this movie. If they stick to the book, he will have to move beyond the comical bully from movies 1,2,3,4 and 5. I'm cautiously optimistic.

Fleur du mal
November 4th, 2008, 9:00 pm
It will be interesting to see if Felton can pull off Draco in this movie. If they stick to the book, he will have to move beyond the comical bully from movies 1,2,3,4 and 5. I'm cautiously optimistic.

Oh, I'm very optimistic, actually. I think the previous HP movies simply didn't give him much of a chance, but even there - I'd like to remind of his facial performance in PS, for example - and all the more in the movies he did prior to HP like Anna and the King, he showed that he is a really good, nuanced actor. And HBP is going to give him exactly that chance, because the narrative inevitably involves Draco and his struggle.

PureBloodGirl
November 4th, 2008, 9:11 pm
New interview with Tom Felton...

http://snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/tom-felton-talks-draco-half-blood-prince-deathly-hallows-60009/

Pretty good, his performance is one of the parts I'm anticipating most.
Same here, but I can't wait to see more of Snape and Tom Riddle.

remizwolf
November 4th, 2008, 9:41 pm
I was so sad we have to wait to see the movie for a hole year. I can't wait.

ArryGrotter
November 5th, 2008, 4:19 am
I was so sad we have to wait to see the movie for a hole year. I can't wait.

It's not a whole year - its only 8 and a half months :)

lcbaseball22
November 5th, 2008, 4:52 am
It's not a whole year - its only 8 and a half months :)

:rolleyes: That's really not much better, it would have been coming out this month and now we have to wait :grumble:

xhanax315
November 5th, 2008, 6:45 pm
I know, :grumble:. Instead we have to sit around and listen to others rant about Twilight.

PureBloodGirl
November 5th, 2008, 8:14 pm
:rolleyes: That's really not much better, it would have been coming out this month and now we have to wait :grumble:
Actually it is. You'll be surprised how quickly time flys by before HBP comes.

vampiricduck
November 5th, 2008, 8:51 pm
Yeah, I mean, this time last year we were likely moaning for the same reason. Personally, I'm more worried about the fact that people are already putting up Christmas decorations.

We're going to be excited enough when it comes I'm sure! :D

Hysteria
November 6th, 2008, 12:20 am
If anything I think I'm MORE excited now than I was before :D By the time the movie comes off I'll be bouncing off the walls as I'm sure many of the other members will be :lol:

xhanax315
November 6th, 2008, 12:57 am
If anything I think I'm MORE excited now than I was before :D By the time the movie comes off I'll be bouncing off the walls as I'm sure many of the other members will be :lol:

I'll be there, bouncing along with you! :rotfl:

Hysteria
November 6th, 2008, 1:10 am
Ahaha I have thi image of all of us CoS-ians going to the same theatre to watch HBP (how awesome would that be, btw :wow:) and bouncing off the many walls :rotfl:

Anyway umm best be getting back OT...

PureBloodGirl
November 6th, 2008, 1:19 am
I'll be there, bouncing along with you! :rotfl:
And I'll be bouncing with you and Hysteria, too. I am more excited now than I was then. There just wasn't enough time for us to get in the excitment and joy leading up to the release of HBP. So now we have more time and at least we'll get some sneak peeks and trailers along the way. :D

Jack5555
November 6th, 2008, 2:24 am
I am a little upset about the 8 month wait, but I have a party I am hosting to look forward too :) But yet again, we could be seeing it in 2-3 weeks if it were not for WB...

Hysteria
November 6th, 2008, 3:00 am
I thought we were all over this now :lol: Just think how excited we'll be when it comes to next year! When we have promotional posters and everything else under the sun. I'm convinced it'll be well worth the wait :D

ArryGrotter
November 6th, 2008, 3:21 am
Personally, I am not ready not for HBP this month - the late trailer helped with this. So I think it coming later in July is a good thing :)

eaglestreasure
November 6th, 2008, 4:01 am
Personally, I am not ready not for HBP this month - the late trailer helped with this. So I think it coming later in July is a good thing :)

Yeah, I'm not ready either.

I'm really bogged down with school and the elections.

Seriously, all the McCain supporters at my school have gotten depressed and gone emo, and all the Obama supporters are overusing their inside jokes waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much. It'll be like "OMG -- Change, Yes we can! What was that, Mr. Dean? CHANGE?? lol"
...It makes me sick. Not that I dislike Obama, but it really gets on my nerves after a while. Even the LUNCH LADIES are turning into Obamagirl!!:lol:

Meanwhile, all the McCain people just look at the floor, and don't speak to people. Of course the teachers all indifferent about this.


I would honestly not be ready for Prince this month at ALL. Maybe in December...

lcbaseball22
November 6th, 2008, 3:04 pm
[staff edit - misquote deleted]

the trailer and every picture we get just makes me more and more ****** off that we have to wait :relax:

xhanax315
November 6th, 2008, 6:23 pm
I'm getting impatient! I want next week! :grumble:

DML1991
November 6th, 2008, 7:51 pm
Personally, I am not ready not for HBP this month - the late trailer helped with this. So I think it coming later in July is a good thing :)I'm the opposite, I'm more pumped for this film now than I was for OOTP, and we're 8 months away from it's release still. I tried staying positive about the delay at first, but now I just hate WB's guts, because if this were to actually improve the film, then maybe that would be fine, but considering that they have a great film on their hands (if it's really as good as the reactions from the test screening said) and finished (save for the one tweak that would still be ready by Nov 21 apparently). This is cruel what they did, and self centered.

But I'll probably forgive them on July 17 anyway. :lol:

I'm getting impatient! I want next week! :grumble:What's next week?

Edit: http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/half-blood-prince-harry-quidditch-robes-photo-60042/

New promo pic. Can't see it in much detail, but I think from what I see, I really like the new look for the quidditch robes.

KlausBaudelaire
November 6th, 2008, 8:46 pm
Wow, I quite like it, they look much more sportish than the CoS robes!

eaglestreasure
November 6th, 2008, 10:59 pm
http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/half-blood-prince-harry-quidditch-robes-photo-60042/

New promo pic. Can't see it in much detail, but I think from what I see, I really like the new look for the quidditch robes.

Sweet!!:tu::tu::tu:

Wow, I quite like it, they look much more sportish than the CoS robes!

I think so too, much better:agree:

I've always wondered why foreign magazines often get these kind of photos more than American and British magazines... But cool, thanks for the tip:)


Thought some of you might be interested to know that I've switched stances; I REALLY want HBP now, now, now -- instead, I have to listen to people talk about Twilight (ugh):grumble:

PureBloodGirl
November 6th, 2008, 11:24 pm
Edit: http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/half-blood-prince-harry-quidditch-robes-photo-60042/

New promo pic. Can't see it in much detail, but I think from what I see, I really like the new look for the quidditch robes.
I really like the new quidditch uniforms, too. From that picture though it doesn't look like the ones Ron had on in that photo we got of him a while back. I'm glad too, because I didn't like the look of those.

eaglestreasure
November 6th, 2008, 11:37 pm
I really like the new quidditch uniforms, too. From that picture though it doesn't look like the ones Ron had on in that photo we got of him a while back. I'm glad too, because I didn't like the look of those.

Oops, looks like I missed that photo. Could someone be awesome and post a link?:)

About the robes: they look less like ROBES to me, but I still think they're better than the CoS ones.

Hysteria
November 7th, 2008, 12:01 am
Personally I think the new robes look a bit silly :whistle:

Mad_Druid
November 7th, 2008, 8:35 am
Personally I think the new robes look a bit silly :whistle:

I'm not too keen on them either. I want to see the Slytherin Quidditch Robes though, from what I remember in one of the behind-the-scenes docos they went for a different look for Slytherin.

gottriplets
November 7th, 2008, 9:38 pm
ArryGrotter....

Thanks for the List of HBP movie details....very informative! Must have taken you forever to do all that!!! *is Very Impressed*

eaglestreasure
November 7th, 2008, 11:24 pm
Personally I think the new robes look a bit silly :whistle:

How so?

Is there anything in particular?



I'm depressed about HBP now that the fight scene is at the Burrow instead of at Hogwarts...

potterposse
November 8th, 2008, 1:10 am
The delay is seriously killing me. :lol: And it doesn't help after seeing the newer trailor for the first time yesterday. :wow: is all I could say! It looks so good! :D


the Quidditch robes are..alright I agree the old design for them was a bit better bt the newer ones aren't horrible. :p The Slytherin ones though...those are cool :D. I think they were in the Behind the scene thing. ;)

RebeccaMatthews
November 8th, 2008, 8:30 am
Comm121 teacher would love this: me love the old uniforms better than the new ones.

Why'd they change it? Guess it must be one of the many things that may just annoy me about this film. Hmph.

DML1991
November 8th, 2008, 1:51 pm
I'm kinda surprised by some of the dislike for the new quidditch robes, I like them alot. I haven't seen the slytherin ones though, I must have not been paying close enough attention to notice them in the sneak peek. :lol:

In other news...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417741/board/flat/122233158

This poster is saying there will indeed be a new trailer with Twilight, I'm not going to see the movie regardless, but I'm glad we'll get a official trailer release soon.

Hysteria
November 8th, 2008, 1:54 pm
Is there anything in particular?

I'm not sure. Cant quite put my finger on it but I like them a lot less than the old robes. PoA had some good ones from memory (and some very fashionable goggles).

Okrim
November 8th, 2008, 2:04 pm
I'm kinda surprised by some of the dislike for the new quidditch robes, I like them alot. I haven't seen the slytherin ones though, I must have not been paying close enough attention to notice them in the sneak peek. :lol:

In other news...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417741/board/flat/122233158

This poster is saying there will indeed be a new trailer with Twilight, I'm not going to see the movie regardless, but I'm glad we'll get a official trailer release soon.

I can confirm that. It is listed under "V3"

Hysteria
November 8th, 2008, 2:16 pm
This poster is saying there will indeed be a new trailer with Twilight, I'm not going to see the movie regardless, but I'm glad we'll get a official trailer release soon.

Nothing could make me see the Twilight movie. Thankfully we have YouTube :D

What do we think we'll get in the new one? I personally think it's time for a 'lighter' trailer. We've had two pretty dark ones (with the exception of the totally out of place quip at the end of the leaked trailer) must be time for a 'fun' one.

mjhaners
November 8th, 2008, 2:27 pm
I'm kinda surprised by some of the dislike for the new quidditch robes, I like them alot. I haven't seen the slytherin ones though, I must have not been paying close enough attention to notice them in the sneak peek. :lol:

In other news...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417741/board/flat/122233158

This poster is saying there will indeed be a new trailer with Twilight, I'm not going to see the movie regardless, but I'm glad we'll get a official trailer release soon.

i bet that they'll just release the leaked one since its already released why not release it officially?

but I still hope that it will be a whole new trailer and not the ones that we've already seen.

(I hope that what the poster says on IMDb is legit)

DML1991
November 8th, 2008, 2:37 pm
I can confirm that. It is listed under "V3"Yay! :clap:

i bet that they'll just release the leaked one since its already released why not release it officially?

but I still hope that it will be a whole new trailer and not the ones that we've already seen.

(I hope that what the poster says on IMDb is legit)There's a part of me that realizes that you're most likely right, it will just be a finished version of that trailer (notice, the international trailer had some parts that were very obvious that the effects work wasn't completed and the colors on scenes that were also in the first teaser weren't as deep - particularly Dumbledore standing next to the cabinet of memories) with the dates fixed. But there's another part of me that hopes this trailer is a little bit like that one, but much like the official domestic trailer for OOTP with plenty of new footage to satisfy us fans.

If anything, we'll at least get it in HD this time. :D

Okrim
November 8th, 2008, 2:47 pm
I don't know if I want another trailer already...but i will be satisfied if the trailer is a finished version...

mjhaners
November 8th, 2008, 2:52 pm
Does V3 mean version 3? If so doesn't it mean that it will be a new one?
or maybe they included the useless 15 second clip or the teaser teaser trailer on IMAX in the count?

Hysteria
November 8th, 2008, 3:23 pm
That's a good point. I forgot about the IMAX *cough-lame excuse for a-cough* trailer. Hmmm maybe V3 will just be the finished product of the leaked one. If so that's a bit of a downer...

Jack5555
November 8th, 2008, 3:50 pm
Personally I think the new robes look a bit silly :whistle:
Agreed. They kind of look Medieval. But we will just have to wait and see.

Ronny
November 8th, 2008, 3:57 pm
I've just seen the picture of Greyback and must confess my disappointment. He looks too inhuman, too gimmicky, like a design moulded to sell action figures. He doesn't look like someone I could believe as a real threat.
Maybe it's just a design they were trying out and they've toned it down a little. But as it is I am not impressed.
I don't even think they needed to put an emphasis on making him look instantly memorable. Just go with how he is in the books. Somone with filthy hair, a slimy and despicable man who fights on all fours like an animal.
They just went overboard with this particular look.

Hysteria
November 8th, 2008, 4:39 pm
I think part of the problem with the Greyback picture is that his expression is just... silly. I think if they took a normal picture without his eyes open like that and his mouth closed he might look a little better but I'm not impressed with what we've seen either :no:

mrfutterman
November 8th, 2008, 5:29 pm
I don't even think they needed to put an emphasis on making him look instantly memorable.

He is a very, very minor villain. If they aren't going to make him look instantly memorable, then he becomes 4th Villain From the Left. Either cut him or make him memorable.


Just go with how he is in the books.

But what does that mean in practical terms? The novels are not visual mediums.

Somone with filthy hair, a slimy and despicable man who fights on all fours like an animal.
They just went overboard with this particular look.

Your suggestions are underboard (if there is such a word! :D). What is scary, or even noticeable, about filthy hair? How, specifically, do you make somebody look "slimy and despicable"? And a man who fights on all fours might be more amusing than frightening.

My only problem with the quidditch robes is that they are including this uninteresting and unpopular non-sport at all. Waste of time.

vampiricduck
November 8th, 2008, 5:34 pm
i bet that they'll just release the leaked one since its already released why not release it officially?

but I still hope that it will be a whole new trailer and not the ones that we've already seen.

(I hope that what the poster says on IMDb is legit)

I would be highly angry with them if they gave us the leaked trailer "officially". I'm sorry, but that's a cop out. I want something new if they're going to keep me waiting an extra load of time.

Hysteria
November 8th, 2008, 5:42 pm
:lol: You said it vampiricduck :D I want a fluffy trailer now. Something that shows us the other side of the movie since word is (from reviews) that a lot of the movie IS fluffy...

DML1991
November 8th, 2008, 6:53 pm
I would be highly angry with them if they gave us the leaked trailer "officially". I'm sorry, but that's a cop out. I want something new if they're going to keep me waiting an extra load of time.Like I said, I'll be perfectly fine if this trailer is like the domestic trailer for OOTP was to the international. It's similiar, but shows more new footage and is more satisfying.

Ronny
November 8th, 2008, 8:17 pm
He is a very, very minor villain.

Perhaps, but he is important in that he is possibly the worst-of-the-worst in Voldemort's ranks. And it's not because he looks like a freak, it's because he's a sadist and he mutilates and infects little kids.
Now, you don't really need a gimmicky look for the guy. It just reeks of overkill. I think a more subtle approach would be great.

mrfutterman
November 8th, 2008, 9:20 pm
Perhaps, but he is important in that he is possibly the worst-of-the-worst in Voldemort's ranks. And it's not because he looks like a freak, it's because he's a sadist and he mutilates and infects little kids.
Now, you don't really need a gimmicky look for the guy. It just reeks of overkill. I think a more subtle approach would be great.

He's a werewolf. Werewolves do not exist so their inclusion in an fictional work is to attract attention; to shock and horrify.

This use of non-existent horrific creatures to shock is a gimmick, which is defined as:

an ingenious or novel device, scheme, or stratagem, esp. one designed to attract attention or increase appeal.

So a "gimmicky" look for the character is necessary, given that he is not a realistic character. I don't see how anything else is possible. There is no such thing as a realistic werewolf. Plus, how can a werewolf possibly be presented with a "subtle approach"?

jammi567
November 8th, 2008, 10:12 pm
I would be highly angry with them if they gave us the leaked trailer "officially". I'm sorry, but that's a cop out. I want something new if they're going to keep me waiting an extra load of time.
But surely the fact that the trailer was leaked in the first place indicates that it wans't supposed to be released at the time until it was vleaned up more?

JustAnIllusion
November 8th, 2008, 10:45 pm
He's a werewolf. Werewolves do not exist so their inclusion in an fictional work is to attract attention; to shock and horrify.

This use of non-existent horrific creatures to shock is a gimmick, which is defined as:



So a "gimmicky" look for the character is necessary, given that he is not a realistic character. I don't see how anything else is possible. There is no such thing as a realistic werewolf. Plus, how can a werewolf possibly be presented with a "subtle approach"?

I don't mind them going all out with his look, but personally I don't think it resembles werewolf as much as it resembles hilarity.

Ronny
November 8th, 2008, 11:06 pm
Plus, how can a werewolf possibly be presented with a "subtle approach"?

Easy. When we see him he's not transformed.
But his look when human should reflect his personality, that of a dangerous and lustful man. A kind of sweaty, creepy deviant.
Someone you can imagine gets a great deal of enjoyment from hurting others. I mean, they got the hair right at least, that's exactly how I imagined it. But the rest doesn't match.

OooooohDementor
November 9th, 2008, 3:32 am
Sorry to interrupt your Greyback discussion, but Photobucket didn't let me see half of the pictures, so I really can't say much on that :)

I really like all the script leaks, most of them sound great! But I just read the Room of Requirement scene and... where is the diadem??? Now that they have book 7 and know that the little hint in HBP was (extremely!) important, they could have at least shown a short shot of it, instead of the "rolling eyeballs" that follow Harry, or whatever that was.
I'm seriously starting to wonder how all that is supposed to work out in DH! I mean, Harry just somehow knows about the locket in Grimmauld place (and, yeah, okay, they couldn't have known that was important when they wrote the OotP script, but still). And then he suddenly remembers in DH that he saw Ravenclaw's diadem in the Room of Requirement the year before - when he was standing there with his eyes closed... Yeah, right. Hey, that's two Horcruxes popping out of thin air. People will really get it, especially if they didn't read the books!
Honestly, I'm more than a bit disappointed :no:

MasterOfDeath
November 9th, 2008, 3:52 am
If they released the leaked trailer with Twilight, wouldn't they have to change the 'This Year' title card? This gives me a little hope that if there is a trailer with Twilight, it will be brand new.

Unless they edit the leaked one. You can't put 'This Year' on a trailer for a movie that won't come out until the very middle of next year...

ArryGrotter
November 9th, 2008, 4:02 am
If they released the leaked trailer with Twilight, wouldn't they have to change the 'This Year' title card? This gives me a little hope that if there is a trailer with Twilight, it will be brand new.

Unless they edit the leaked one. You can't put 'This Year' on a trailer for a movie that won't come out until the very middle of next year...

It'd be so easy to change....

ThaiHPFan
November 9th, 2008, 6:31 am
I don't even think they needed to put an emphasis on making him look instantly memorable. Just go with how he is in the books. Somone with filthy hair, a slimy and despicable man who fights on all fours like an animal.
They just went overboard with this particular look.

The book can show that he is slimy and despicable through his lines and backstory. The movie wouldn't (and shouldn't) include all that, so his personality has to be shown through his appearance. If they are going to include such a minor villain as Greyback, then he must be instantly memorable, or else they should just save the make-up cost and replace him with another masked Death Eater.

Also, in the book, Greyback can run on four, jump, and attack in the same way as real wolves do, so I think his outward appearance should be quite different from that of a normal human.

Ronny
November 9th, 2008, 1:37 pm
Also, in the book, Greyback can run on four, jump, and attack in the same way as real wolves do, so I think his outward appearance should be quite different from that of a normal human.

I do agree but just don't like them going overboard. I think that subtle make-up effects would be a lot more effective than inhuman eyes and a downright bizzare beard.
An example can be found in The Dark Knight. The antagonist, The Joker, dresses up as a policeman in order to assassinate the Mayor. Now, whilst he's in uniform you can tell that there's something iffy about this guy from the make-up they used in the scene.
The flesh on his face is discoloured, corpselike and around his eyes and mouth are dark patches. He looks infected, like he's wearing a mask upon a mask. And whilst they didn't do anything special he instantly stood out.

Hysteria
November 10th, 2008, 1:54 am
I agree. Whilst I want Greyback to look different, I don't want him to look silly which is how he looks at the moment. I think if they changed the shape of his eyes, did something with his hair and gave him a bit of a less ridiculous beard they might be on the right track.

Jack5555
November 10th, 2008, 2:39 am
http://oclumencia.com.br/galeria/displayimage.php?pid=13954&fullsize=1

Why the heck are Draco and Luna together in that pic?

ArryGrotter
November 10th, 2008, 3:47 am
http://oclumencia.com.br/galeria/displayimage.php?pid=13954&fullsize=1

Why the heck are Draco and Luna together in that pic?

well, you can see the names of multiple characters next to the boxes - Draco, Luna, also Ginny and Neville - but they only chose Draco and Luna to picture portray, that's all... It's nothing to do with that they are in the movie together, its just a merchandiser's decision...

Edit: I see that its about time for a new thread - and 11 days away from 21st, it'll be highly likely that that occurrence will happen in v.13 - superstitious anyone?

Jack5555
November 10th, 2008, 12:57 pm
well, you can see the names of multiple characters next to the boxes - Draco, Luna, also Ginny and Neville - but they only chose Draco and Luna to picture portray, that's all... It's nothing to do with that they are in the movie together, its just a merchandiser's decision...

Edit: I see that its about time for a new thread - and 11 days away from 21st, it'll be highly likely that that occurrence will happen in v.13 - superstitious anyone?
I just thought it was really odd placement. If I do recall, they have not had any interaction, so I would have at least put some more people on there, to make it more of a collage and so non book readers don't think there is something between them

phoenix88
November 10th, 2008, 7:45 pm
I'm kinda surprised by some of the dislike for the new quidditch robes, I like them alot. I haven't seen the slytherin ones though, I must have not been paying close enough attention to notice them in the sneak peek. :lol:

In other news...

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0417741/board/flat/122233158

This poster is saying there will indeed be a new trailer with Twilight, I'm not going to see the movie regardless, but I'm glad we'll get a official trailer release soon.


Really? That's fantastic!!!!! :tu:

I was hoping they would release a trailer on nov 21 to console the fans about the delay. However, since we got the international teaser unexpectedly, I didn't expect them to give us another with twilight.

That should help ease the pain of this delay. It's tough- we were supposed to be getting the movie next friday!!!

The crazy thing is, I got so restless I succumbed and started reading twilight myself :lol:I know, it's complete blasphemy on these forums :lol: It's not hp, but it's a lot more compelling of a read than I would have ever expected and strangely addictive in its own way. "Cedric" is in it too so at least it is sort of Hp linked.

Still, I would have taken hbp next wk any day!

hpkid421
November 10th, 2008, 8:33 pm
awesome
trailer with twilight
i will be seeing that anyway
i know there are a lot of twilight haters but like 75 percent of twilight fans are also potter fans, so i think thats a pretty good move.

DML1991
November 11th, 2008, 1:21 am
New pic...

http://galeria.scarpotter.com/displayimage.php?pos=-8611

Any ideas on where she's at? It looks like it may be snowing outside.

phoenix88
November 11th, 2008, 2:10 am
New pic...

http://galeria.scarpotter.com/displayimage.php?pos=-8611

Any ideas on where she's at? It looks like it may be snowing outside.

I don't know. She looks so morose- and she is all in black. Maybe it's after dumbledore's death. It's hard to say.

DML1991
November 11th, 2008, 2:37 am
I don't know. She looks so morose- and she is all in black. Maybe it's after dumbledore's death. It's hard to say.I thought about that too. I just remembered, unless I'm mistaken, I believe she's dressed the same way in the pic of her and Snape and the necklace.

ArryGrotter
November 11th, 2008, 3:27 am
I thought about that too. I just remembered, unless I'm mistaken, I believe she's dressed the same way in the pic of her and Snape and the necklace.

I thought she looked dressed the same in the pic with her in Dumbledore's office with Harry...

boushh
November 11th, 2008, 3:46 am
Isn't McGonagall always dressed in black?

That looks like it might be the same desk she's standing near in that picture with Snape and the necklace. She's also wearing the same outfit...

stacyINC
November 11th, 2008, 7:19 am
I must say I am a little dissapointed in the TWO trailers we have had and no Harry Ginny footage. It is obvious they are keeping that their secret weapon for the film as they are showing little to nothing of it in the trailers.

ArryGrotter
November 11th, 2008, 7:37 am
I must say I am a little dissapointed in the TWO trailers we have had and no Harry Ginny footage. It is obvious they are keeping that their secret weapon for the film as they are showing little to nothing of it in the trailers.

well we've seen them in the sneak peeks and in multiple trailers... Edit: I meant pictures, sorry :lol:

stacyINC
November 11th, 2008, 7:41 am
well we've seen them in the sneak peeks and in multiple trailers...




What were those? what are sneak peeks? You mean like behind the scenes stuff? I am looking for a decent quik clip of them mabye looking at eachother in the common room after they win the Quiddich game or mabye Harry looking at her in the halls when she is doing all of that snogging:lol::lol:

ArryGrotter
November 11th, 2008, 8:04 am
What were those? what are sneak peeks? You mean like behind the scenes stuff? I am looking for a decent quik clip of them mabye looking at eachother in the common room after they win the Quiddich game or mabye Harry looking at her in the halls when she is doing all of that snogging:lol::lol:

That kiss is cut :whistle:

I am talking about when they showed them filming the replacement kiss (the one in the RoR) link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLKbadsOmjo)

lcbaseball22
November 11th, 2008, 12:55 pm
Isn't McGonagall always dressed in black?

That looks like it might be the same desk she's standing near in that picture with Snape and the necklace. She's also wearing the same outfit...

Yes, I believe it is...the desks have the same molding and you can even see the outline of the open box that contained the necklace :whistle:

http://i283.photobucket.com/albums/kk300/lcbaseball22/Harry%20Potter/Snapecursednecklace.jpg?t=1221786348

http://www.snitchseeker.com/gallery/albums/userpics/84186/minerva-mcgonagall-scar-foto-inedita.jpg

wilmer_harry02
November 11th, 2008, 6:11 pm
Many fans will agree on their disappointment of WB cutting Dobby from the films since Chamber of Secrets.

We in fact know that Dobby will NOT appear in Half Blood Prince as Harry's aid to keep an eye on Malfoy, etc etc

However, A few weeks ago David Heyman, producer of the HP movie series said, "It has been a while, for example, since we have seen Dobby and I suspect we are going to have to make more of Dobby in Seven than we might have done. I think we have done a pretty good job of what we need in terms of the plot..."

Toby Jones, the actor that gave the voice of Dobby in Chamber of Secrets expressed his wishes to return in Deathly Hallows (Interview Nov 28 2007)

Soooo? What say you?

Jack5555
November 11th, 2008, 10:34 pm
Many fans will agree on their disappointment of WB cutting Dobby from the films since Chamber of Secrets.

We in fact know that Dobby will NOT appear in Half Blood Prince as Harry's aid to keep an eye on Malfoy, etc etc

However, A few weeks ago David Heyman, producer of the HP movie series said, "It has been a while, for example, since we have seen Dobby and I suspect we are going to have to make more of Dobby in Seven than we might have done. I think we have done a pretty good job of what we need in terms of the plot..."

Toby Jones, the actor that gave the voice of Dobby in Chamber of Secrets expressed his wishes to return in Deathly Hallows (Interview Nov 28 2007)

Soooo? What say you?

That is old news. But thanks anyways.

PureBloodGirl
November 11th, 2008, 10:50 pm
http://oclumencia.com.br/galeria/displayimage.php?pid=13954&fullsize=1

Why the heck are Draco and Luna together in that pic?
:err: I have no idea, but it is really strange. I love that picture of Luna though, her glasses are so funny and cool looking.

xhanax315
November 12th, 2008, 3:49 am
But I'll probably forgive them on July 17 anyway. :lol:

What's next week?


Was I off by a week? :lol: Sorry.

Jack5555
November 12th, 2008, 5:27 am
Shouldn't this be locked now?

ArryGrotter
November 12th, 2008, 5:37 am
Shouldn't this be locked now?

Yes, the mods must have forgot to lock...

There is now a new thread for those not realising: http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=118638