Jack5555 September 19th, 2008, 2:46 am Well, since V-Daddy (jk, Voldemort) is defeated, and everyone knows Hagrid is innocent, do you think Kingsly may have let Hagrid get a new wand and receive training from someone? I personally do. I don't think it is fair Hargrid does not know much magic. I could see Harry, Arthur, or Kingsly teaching him.
vampiricduck September 19th, 2008, 4:22 am I think this might be discussed here
Isn't it Time for Hagrid to get a New Wand? (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=109128&highlight=Hagrid),
but I'm not sure.
To answer your question in the event of my being incorrect and this thread continuing, I figure he did eventually. Maybe he got a small course on it or something, received an apology and bought a new wand. Order of Merlin too, I'd like to think... :D
bellatrix93 September 19th, 2008, 5:59 am He might have a Kwikspell course, its supposed to be for Squibs but Hagrid Imo needed one. As for having a new wand I think he was allowed to have a new one, as you said Voldemort has gone and it was proven that he was innocent.
TerrierMom September 19th, 2008, 1:26 pm I think he did; the new wand certainly. The other teachers could have taught him on their own time, they liked Hagrid.
skullangel September 19th, 2008, 3:32 pm A new wand and full education seems to be on order for Hagrid, between lessons from the staff and Qwik Spell course he could take something like the wizard version of High School Equivalency exam.
deansboy September 19th, 2008, 3:45 pm He was proven to be innocent since the end of the second book, seems that he's rather too attached to his original to break down and get another though it seems to work for the most part.
Iqen September 20th, 2008, 2:20 pm I too think Hagrid was given some magical training and a new wand. Someone would be sure to help Hagrid with personal assistance in teaching him about magic.
JJFinch September 20th, 2008, 9:33 pm Hmm, this is an interesting question. Much as I think that the magical training would be offered to him, perhaps by McGonagall, I think that he loves what he does too much to really need magic any more. I think he would probably get a new wand, providing Ollivander was able to make him one (I don't think he'd except one from any other wand maker) and might pick up a few basic everyday spells, and maybe a few which would be useful for his helping animals, but I don't think he will actually study magic at all - he'll just be free to pick the necessary skills up and use them.
Having said that, I suppose he might enrole on a Kwikspell course :lol:.
Voldemorts8thHorcrux September 20th, 2008, 10:36 pm i don't think he'll ever get a formal education, but I can see him getting a new wand and full apologies. i just can't see him sitting in a classroom learning more magic :lol:. but maybe he'll go to that Kwikspell course or someone will tutor him :).
Oops, someone already thought of the Kwikspell thing :lol:
skullangel September 21st, 2008, 8:14 am A bit off topic but right up there.
If Hagrid would finish his education and get his equivalency exams he's already a teacher and he could easily qualify to be the head of Gryfindor head before 19 years later. And after a long stint as head of house, almost 19 years later, the door opens for him to be Headmaster.
Its one of those things JKR loves to do... Someone unexpected or unlikely gets somewhere they didnt expect to be when they started out.
lilyrose September 21st, 2008, 11:32 am Hmm, this is an interesting question. Much as I think that the magical training would be offered to him, perhaps by McGonagall, I think that he loves what he does too much to really need magic any more. I think he would probably get a new wand, providing Ollivander was able to make him one (I don't think he'd except one from any other wand maker) and might pick up a few basic everyday spells, and maybe a few which would be useful for his helping animals, but I don't think he will actually study magic at all - he'll just be free to pick the necessary skills up and use them.
Having said that, I suppose he might enrole on a Kwikspell course :lol:.
Yeah Kwikspell perhaps, and certainly a new wand..he must have got irritated by the wand in the umbrella thing..Basic spells, I'm sure Hagrid knows quite a bit..still, more wizarding skills never hurts...
JJFinch September 21st, 2008, 6:10 pm Yeah Kwikspell perhaps, and certainly a new wand..he must have got irritated by the wand in the umbrella thing..Basic spells, I'm sure Hagrid knows quite a bit..still, more wizarding skills never hurts...
Although, being Hagrid, he might find the umbrella better than a wand, as he is quite likely to sit on and break a thin bit of wood, whereas he'll see his umbrella :rollyeyes:. And I can imagine he'd be able tosee the humour in being the half-giant who weilds a pink umbrella - he'd no longer have to conceal the fact that he has his old wand inside it and it'd be a great novelty. Just imagine how the first years would react the first time they saw him using it. :lol:
BurrowGhoul September 21st, 2008, 10:29 pm I would say that Hagrid has no interest in pursuing a magical education. However, because his father was so pleased that he was accepted into Hogwarts, I suppose it is possible he might do it to honor his memory. Maybe Mme. Maxime could encourage him.
AliceLongbottom September 22nd, 2008, 1:48 am I would say that Hagrid has no interest in pursuing a magical education. However, because his father was so pleased that he was accepted into Hogwarts, I suppose it is possible he might do it to honor his memory. Maybe Mme. Maxime could encourage him.
I don't know if I would say he had no interest in pursuing a magical education. I think that in the books, he seemed to show how much he would have loved to do magic, because of him keeping his wand, and still using magic. Maybe, perhaps, he might have pursued an education in magic for making care of magical creatures easier, or something, but that's my opinion. :D
eaglestreasure September 22nd, 2008, 3:22 am i don't think he'll ever get a formal education, but I can see him getting a new wand and full apologies. i just can't see him sitting in a classroom learning more magic :lol:. but maybe he'll go to that Kwikspell course or someone will tutor him :).
Oops, someone already thought of the Kwikspell thing :lol:
Yep. Full apologies for sure, or they'd get a lot of complaints down at the Ministry (can you say Luna, Harry, Ron, Hermione, Neville, Ginny, Michael, Cho, Dean, Seamus?):lol:
Hagrid is one of the nicest people you'd meet.:tu:
lilyrose September 22nd, 2008, 12:09 pm Although, being Hagrid, he might find the umbrella better than a wand, as he is quite likely to sit on and break a thin bit of wood, whereas he'll see his umbrella :rolleyes:. And I can imagine he'd be able tosee the humour in being the half-giant who weilds a pink umbrella - he'd no longer have to conceal the fact that he has his old wand inside it and it'd be a great novelty. Just imagine how the first years would react the first time they saw him using it. :lol:
Ha ha..:rotfl:Now, I agree absolutely to the Hagrid-not-squashing-the-umbrella theory!:lol:
vampireruler222 September 22nd, 2008, 3:44 pm Personally I wish he gets education but I can't see him getting it.
9and3quarters September 22nd, 2008, 5:54 pm Hm, I'm not sure that he would honestly. I think he truly enjoys his job as grounds keeper and enjoys looking after the students which, in his position, does not require a more in depth education.
He knows a lot from experience -- he's savvy because he takes care of the grounds and needs to know a lot about what is in the forest. He also knows enough magic to get by -- he can conjure fire, transfigure (or at least attach a pigs tail to a behind ;)) as well as use some of the magic passed down to him from his mother.
I would say that he's fairly content. I would imagine that maybe he would want a wand instead of that pink umbrella but Hagrid is not a conformist so it's possible he's quite happy with this station and his knowledge.
Voldemorts8thHorcrux September 22nd, 2008, 9:05 pm Well, maybe he'd change the color of the umbrella ;), but I couldn't imagine him without a pink umbrella :lol:. I mean, seven years of using that umbrella wand!. I do kind of wonder how he got it in there though, I bet Dumbledore helped him. Not that Hagrid isn't clever or anything, but I imagine making an umbrella wand would be hard for someone who doesn't have another wand and has only 3 years of official magical training :p
lilyrose September 23rd, 2008, 11:29 am I do kind of wonder how he got it in there though, I bet Dumbledore helped him. Not that Hagrid isn't clever or anything, but I imagine making an umbrella wand would be hard for someone who doesn't have another wand and has only 3 years of official magical training :p
Yeah..I can certainly see Dumbledore doing that favour for Hagrid:p
bellatrix93 September 23rd, 2008, 1:56 pm But how can you tell they were only seven years? I think he used it for much longer.
I'm sure Dumbledore's Elder Wand helped him making Hagrid's umbrella.
Mad_Druid September 24th, 2008, 11:22 am No. Hagrid is happy doing what he does and he isn't as inept at magic as he is obviously supposed to be. If he did ever decide to further his education (how he would go about it I'm not sure) I'm sure that he would have lots of support.
Voldemorts8thHorcrux September 24th, 2008, 10:32 pm But how can you tell they were only seven years? I think he used it for much longer.
I'm sure Dumbledore's Elder Wand helped him making Hagrid's umbrella.
That makes sense. Maybe Dumbledore repaired it with reparo, like what Harry did and helped Hagrid disguise it as an umbrella. Even Ollivander said that it was impossible to repair a wand that snaps in half, so I don't think just sticking wand pieces into an umbrella will restore it really....
eaglestreasure September 24th, 2008, 10:36 pm Yeah..I can certainly see Dumbledore doing that favour for Hagrid:p
Yes. I don't know if he'd ever really get a FULL education, but for sure he got his wand back and he probably took a Kwikspell course like others have said. So no, never full education, but yes. No-one can ever truly stop learning!:p
Hagrid, if not smart, is wise and good with animals. Okay so maybe I AM a Ravenclaw:whistle: but the world doesn't revolve around smarts. THere are more important things.
EmmyRocks September 25th, 2008, 2:12 am I hope he will!!!! I think so because everyone knows hes innocent now. Someone will probably teach him sometime.
Snape_Fan September 25th, 2008, 3:05 am after not having a wand for so long, and only having the umbrella for so long, i doubt that he will use very much magic compared to a normal wizard...
cardinalguy September 25th, 2008, 3:10 am after not having a wand for so long, and only having the umbrella for so long, i doubt that he will use very much magic compared to a normal wizard...
I was under the impression the pieces of his wand were hidden in the umbrella.
Snape_Fan September 25th, 2008, 3:13 am yes. i believe they were, but since broken he could never use all the powers that a intact wand could have. so if he got a new wand when he was cleared, that would mean he could do more magical things if he knew how..
Voldemorts8thHorcrux September 25th, 2008, 11:17 pm However, if Dumbledore repaired it with the Elder Wand (he could've easily lied about how he fixed it of course), then it would be restored to full power
Artemis_Fowl_2 September 26th, 2008, 8:57 pm The idea that Dumbledore's Elder wand helped make Hagrid's umbrella sounds like a good one. I'm sure if Hagrid wanted to learn more magic anyone he asked would be happy to help him. But, I'm not sure that Hagrid is the kind of person who would ask that. I can see Harry offering to teach him some things, and then others may follow his lead. I think it would be possible for Hagrid to take his wand out of the umbrella or to buy a new one since they know he is innocent, but I don't know if he would continue his education somehow - maybe a kwik spell course or something. This would be a good question to ask Jo.
Voldemorts8thHorcrux September 26th, 2008, 9:10 pm Anyone going to a JKR interview anytime soon? :p
Headless_Nick September 26th, 2008, 9:29 pm Hmmm...I don't see why he wouldn't be able to get a new, unbroken, working wand. But how would he continue his education? Surely he wouldn't be able to become a student at Hogwarts again at his age. Would he get a tutor? Who would it be? Would the tutor be paid and by whom?
Artemis_Fowl_2 September 26th, 2008, 9:31 pm Anyone going to a JKR interview anytime soon? :p
I go every Tuesday... :lol:
Maybe Hagrid could afford his own tutor.
Headless_Nick September 26th, 2008, 9:35 pm I hope he does, Artemis! ;)
eaglestreasure September 26th, 2008, 11:49 pm I hope he does, Artemis! ;)
What about Rose?:)
Headless_Nick September 27th, 2008, 12:24 am What about Rose?:)Lol. Maybe in a few years. Isn't she just in her first year?
member_of_SPEW October 20th, 2008, 1:12 am I was absolutely convinced before the third book that Hagrid (since he was expelled in his third year, I think) would join the trio in classes and such, since now it was proven that he had been innocent. But we see how that turned out ... :lol:
I think that others might offer to teach him. At least he wouldn't have to be careful about not being allowed to do magic. But I doubt he would re-enter Hogwarts now. A Kwickspell course might not be out of the question - although I never got the impression that Hagrid was an especially poor wizard.
Lol. Maybe in a few years. Isn't she just in her first year?
As of the epilogue, which happens in real time in a little less than ten years.
Rush October 20th, 2008, 1:49 am I don't think Hagrid will ever get a full education.
I think he is just too proud to let someone teach him. I think Hagrid is happy how he is, and furthermore I don't think the law would allow him to do magic. He wasn't exactly proven innocent so I think the expulsion would still stand.
skullangel October 20th, 2008, 8:43 am Thats a good question about that Umbrella Wand, we know a broke wand isnt good, look at Ron's old wand snapped in two, and backfires at him quite a few times, what does this tell us about Hagrids wand, he was able to put a tail on Duddley, use it for a motorboat motor and such, we didnt see it backfire on him... Not once... So it does open up a posibility of him getting it fixed by the elderwand, also he was able to give duddley the tail using a blast of his wand... NO ENCANTATIONS... Does this tell us that he knows more than he's actually letting on?
Could he have been getting quickspell lessons on his own before Harry's first year?
Heck he could be "Borrowing" Filtches books for all we know.
I do hope he gets some lessons and could take his OWLS.
cardinalguy October 20th, 2008, 10:03 am Thats a good question about that Umbrella Wand, we know a broke wand isnt good, look at Ron's old wand snapped in two, and backfires at him quite a few times, what does this tell us about Hagrids wand, he was able to put a tail on Duddley, use it for a motorboat motor and such, we didnt see it backfire on him... Not once... So it does open up a posibility of him getting it fixed by the elderwand, also he was able to give duddley the tail using a blast of his wand... NO ENCANTATIONS... Does this tell us that he knows more than he's actually letting on?
Could he have been getting quickspell lessons on his own before Harry's first year?
Heck he could be "Borrowing" Filtches books for all we know.
I do hope he gets some lessons and could take his OWLS.
Some private tutoring with Dumbledore isn't too far-fetched.
HogwartsGHRS May 2nd, 2009, 4:50 pm I don't know - it would be nice to see Hagrid get a full education, and go on to be head of Gryffindor or even headmaster, that would be cool. Although with Hagrid as Headmaster, who knows what pets students would be allowed to have...
:eeep:
halfbloodsnape May 2nd, 2009, 6:34 pm Maybe he'll never be a Hogwarts graduate, but then again: he's got a wand that works and he knows how to do magic, and he's not underage, so the trace is not on him... As long as not too many people see him do magic he should be fine.
AccioLumos May 2nd, 2009, 6:35 pm i dont think it's necessary.
becoming a hogwart's teacher was his redemption.
Aurora_Yaxley May 2nd, 2009, 7:37 pm Hagrid as Headmaster now thats scary. I think Hagrid is happy who he is, he can do magic, he has his job, he may come across as stupid but he is far from it.
If he had a chance to go back to school would he he would say no,he was quiet old only a couple of years younger than Voldie
RemusLupinFan May 2nd, 2009, 8:50 pm I'd have to agree that Hagrid doesn't really need (nor do I think he wants) any more magical education than he has. He seems satisfied with the training he's received, and I'm sure he's more interested in caring for magical creatures than furthering his education.
hpfan795 May 6th, 2009, 12:52 am Probaly not, Hagrid likes it where he is, teachign Care of magical Creatures.
NIrvanaFreak May 22nd, 2009, 11:49 pm Since he is innocent, and it has (finally) been proven, I think it only fair that Hagrid be given a new wand. However, I don't think he would go back to school and take classes, or whatever, because he's much too old. Besides, I know he's really happy teaching Care of Magical Creatures. If he were to learn anything new with this wand, it would be things he asked someone to teach him or things he just picked up on. He's been doing fairly well without a proper wand for pretty much his whole life...
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