What annoyed you most about GOF v3

Does anyone else find the lyrics to the song during the Yule Ball to be extremely cringeworthy. Whoever wrote it was clearly trying to make sure the auidence knew it was a magical world song but the style of it ("dancing like a crazy elf" or something) just came across as a song that even 6 year olds would be too mature for.

I also think the casting of Krum was quite off as the actor they picked looked nothing like the Krum in the books.

This is unfortunately my least favourite of all the movies. I think it had so mich potential, with the tasks and such and there was some good effects but I just didn't like how it was done. Some of the acting was terrible, some really corny lines in there too that were delivered rather awkwardly. I cringe a lot when I watch this, which is a shame because I loved the book.

Ugh there are too many moments to count. First of all, screaming Dumbledore, but that's been said enough already I think.
The Quidditch World Cup had SO much potential, especially the scene in the woods. But pretty much that entire thing was cut, and what do we get instead? "Victor, I love you, Victor I do!" UGH. Easily the worst scene in any of the films.
Then there's the graveyard scene, which was for me one of the most dramatic scenes in all the books. Such a letdown. I mean how many death eaters were there? Four? Five? And two of them were Crabbe and Goyle's parents. Yeah, the Order of the Phoenix should have a tough time with these guys. Also, were they wearing traffic cones under their hoods? And Voldemort just seemed kind of insane IMO, not particularly mysterious or evil. Not that I don't like Ralph Fiennes, he's excellent in OotP. I did like the duel however, and the wands connecting was done really well.

Ugh there are too many moments to count. First of all, screaming Dumbledore, but that's been said enough already I think.
The Quidditch World Cup had SO much potential, especially the scene in the woods. But pretty much that entire thing was cut, and what do we get instead? "Victor, I love you, Victor I do!" UGH. Easily the worst scene in any of the films.
Then there's the graveyard scene, which was for me one of the most dramatic scenes in all the books. Such a letdown. I mean how many death eaters were there? Four? Five? And two of them were Crabbe and Goyle's parents. Yeah, the Order of the Phoenix should have a tough time with these guys. Also, were they wearing traffic cones under their hoods? And Voldemort just seemed kind of insane IMO, not particularly mysterious or evil. Not that I don't like Ralph Fiennes, he's excellent in OotP. I did like the duel however, and the wands connecting was done really well.
Well, everyone acts out of character at some point. I guess it's just Mike Newell's style. However, it fits within the context of the movie. Dumbledore is acting that way to heighten the tension. It shows that he's not expecting something like the GoF spitting out Harry's name. He's worried. And if Dumbledore's worried, we (the audience) should be worried too. Note they took out all the bits about the Triwizard Tournament being much safer than in the past from the book as well. It's not like the filmmakes didn't know Dumbledore's character, they just needed him for this plot point. Dumbledore is no longer in control of the amount of danger that Harry is exposed to. I kind of liked that.
You're right about the DE's in the graveyard. They could have put a few more (and less hammy) extras there. Maybe they were busy stealing traffic cones that keep drivers from going in the wrong direction. (I like you nickname btw.) :)

Well, everyone acts out of character at some point. I guess it's just Mike Newell's style. However, it fits within the context of the movie. Dumbledore is acting that way to heighten the tension. It shows that he's not expecting something like the GoF spitting out Harry's name. He's worried. And if Dumbledore's worried, we (the audience) should be worried too. Note they took out all the bits about the Triwizard Tournament being much safer than in the past from the book as well. It's not like the filmmakes didn't know Dumbledore's character, they just needed him for this plot point. Dumbledore is no longer in control of the amount of danger that Harry is exposed to. I kind of liked that.)

Dumbledore always seemed to me like the person who was always in control and knew the right thing to do. The angry Dumbledore we see in the scene where he realizes that Moody is actually Barty Crouch was supposed to be so contrary to the Dumbledore Harry knew. I felt that that scene would have been much more effective if we hadn't been seeing that side of Dumbledore throughout the whole movie. I don't expect him to be perfect all the time, and I agree that it was a good idea to make it seem like maybe Dumbledore wasn't completely in control. But I don't think he would shove Harry into a trophy case no matter how worried he was.

I was really disappointed that they left out the house elves and SPEW. It made me sad.

the movie only focused on a few important DE's. I wished that they had the whole story of Barty, Jr. and how and why he escaped. And Fudge blustering about how voldemort can't possibly be back. That lead into why he was the way he was in OotP.

1) Whoever said "bipolar Dumbledore", I agree. With bells on.

2) Snape's "characterization", which was either non-existent or just plain wrong. Snape would be the last person to want to see Harry compete in a tournament in which he might lose his life. (And yes, while I realize Kloves didn't know that yet, even in the book Snape is angry that Harry's name came out of the goblet.) It's like Kloves completely reversed Snape's and Dumbledore's reactions and motivations in this scene...and I have no idea WHY.

3) Just personal, this one. I really, REALLY wanted to see (even a much-condensed version of) "The Parting of the Ways." In particular, I wanted to see Snape show Fudge his Dark Mark, as it's my single favorite Snape moment in the entire series.

4) The entire Yule Ball and anything connected with it. The music, McG teaching dance, Flitwick body-surfing, Hagrid and Maxine...you name it, if it had anything to do with the Yule Ball, it was (IMO) awful.

This is a weaker film, sadly. I love GOF the book. The movie feels way more rushed.

Here are my biggest issues
1. Angry Dumbledore! Been said lots of times, and for good reason. Dumbledore would NEVER yell and attack Harry like that! Seriously, come on now! Ugh! I miss Richard Harris. I find Gambon way too serious at times.
2. No subplots. No real detail about Crouch (that mystery was sadly given away), no revelation on Rita Skeeter being an Animagus. No Bertha Jorkins (seriously, how would they even know about the tournament in the movie). No SPEW. maybe some could be chopped, but Crouch and Jorkins at least were important!
3. It seems to cater too much to non-readers. The tongue flicking was annoying. Spoil it why don't you, writers (I adore David Tennant, I thought he was pretty good as Crouch Jr, the writing for him could be better). "HARRY THE CUP WAS A PORTKEY!" Yes, Cedric. We KNOW that.
4. Softening Crouch Sr way too much. Seriously, the guy was corrupt, and unprincipled, yet in the movie he's drabbling about losing family? ***?
5.No parting of Ways. That was a huge theme in OOTP. Nothing in the movie
6. Dumbledore's speech at the end was too blunt. "Cedric was murdered by Lord Voldemort!" Please stop shouting. The speech in the book had waay more emotion and sadness.

It would have been wise to split Goblet of Fire like they did with Deathly Hallows.

Goblet of Fire was a huge book with a lot of information in it. Fitting the entire plot into one movie and not angering fans is nearly impossible.

Goblet of Fire is my least favorite movie, not only because of how much was left out, but because whatever was included was viciously mangled.

I was incredibly annoyed at the fact that Durmstrang was an all-boys school and Beauxbatons was an all-girls school. It's such a small, silly thing to be upset about, but it really irked me.

There was absolutely no mention of house elves whatsoever. Words cannot describe...

The way Crouch Jr and Dumbledore were portrayed in this film was dreadful. Both are great actors, but Dumbledore was written so OOC, and in the flashback, BCJ was just a completely different person... it killed me.

It would have been wise to split Goblet of Fire like they did with Deathly Hallows.

Goblet of Fire was a huge book with a lot of information in it. Fitting the entire plot into one movie and not angering fans is nearly impossible.


I disagree. With the GoF movie, the problem did not lie with what was cut out, but with how a lot of it was handled. Like you said, Dumbledore's characterization and the Crouch subplot are examples of this.

Everything they cut out made complete sense because it wasn't crucial to the plot.

The graveyard scene through the ending is what saved this film from being my least favorite.

Goblet of Fire I think may have been the biggest missed opportunity of the series so far. The overall story remained in tact, I guess, and all the technicals and acting were excellent for the most part. But the movie really tests my patience. It seems like they just tried to do so much, and give the movie so much energy, that it all ends up feeling really manic and disorganized.

I didn't like how they handled the any of the tasks at all really. Like, the first task? Why would Dumbledore and the other professors have Harry battle the dragon alone and then when the dragon escapes, but just sit there and expect Harry to manage to survive? It was a nice sequence, but it required a huge suspension of disbelief that I just couldn't buy.

Oh and this is just a really odd nitpick that I've always had, but why does the whole cauldron melt and then transform into Voldemort when Harry's blood is dropped in to it. It seems like a lot of money was spent to do that bit of cgi when a much more effective and creepy effect could of just had him rising out of the cauldron slowly. That always confused me.

The tasks were extremely rushed, and it seemed like the year at Hogwarts went by incredibly fast.

GoF, imo, is the worst movie by far. It feels so hurried and overly energetic. There are several things about it that really irritate me:

- the beginning. No Dursleys? No lead-in to the quidditch world cup? No quidditch? Also, the stadium was constructed very strangely..it almost looked like it hadn't been finished. The Death Eater scene was also handled poorly, if I hadn't read the book I wouldn't have grasped what was happening.

- Emma's performance. "I'm scared for you!" makes me cringe every time. I actually think Hermione was written well in this movie, she was very uptight and emotional, but Watson just had trouble performing.

-- Fleur's characterization. I know that in the books she is kind of shallow and ditzy, but the movie just made her seem so stupid and pathetic. They really degraded her, imo.

-- "Who wants me to open it?" Ugh!

I think I just dislike the overall atmosphere of the film. It feels very episodic, with something dramatic and action-y happening every 5 minutes, punctuated every now and then by forced and unsuccessful humor. The plot is rushed, there's no character development (except with Neville), no emotion...

I wish they had included the scene where Hermione's teeth grow because that was one of the best parts of the book, IMO. But I guess they left it out because otherwise everyone would hate Snape even more..

how they cast Fleur... she just didn't seem magical to me...

1. Krum and Fleur were portrayed as polar opposites from how they were written by Rowling.
2. Ludo anyone? I was looking forward to seeing him on screen.
3. Cho was a laughable character in the film.
4. Get a haircut, Grint and Radcliffe.
5. It'd be great if we could have someone else play Ginny.
6. Graveyard scene was a LOL moment to me.


I could go on and on.
Mainly the acting and atmosphere was entirely off in this film.

4. Get a haircut, Grint and Radcliffe.

I felt silly listing this as something I didn't like, but their hair REALLY annoyed me! Dan's I could deal with, but Rupert's was out of control

Anyway, I just rewatched this last night on ABC Family. Thinks that really irked me in the films (outside of the hair):

- The twins' fight after they put their names in the Goblet. Silly, unnecessary, and annoying.

- The characterization/stereotyping of Beauxbatons and Durmstrang. A bit over the top and I certainly was not a fan of this.

- Nigel. I don't see why they just didn't call him Colin or Dennis for that matter.

- Everyone laughing at Ron's dress robes. I understand it was just supposed to be a comedic moment, but his best friends would not laugh at him for the fact that his family couldn't afford new dress robes for him.

- The final task had no creatures inside it and was a test of sheer bravery, guts and foot speed, nothing more.

2. Ludo anyone? I was looking forward to seeing him on screen.
Agreed. Ludo was cool and i would have liked to see him. I think Amos was sorta like a composite of Ludo in a way (mostly appearance, not personality) but he was still Amos.

We were actually watching the ABC Family version last night, and my boyfriend actually pointed out the hair. Hes like "what is up with Harry and Ron's hair?" I told him about how you guys are not all about the hair either.

I kinda liked the final task because of the advancing maze and killer brambles. Its kinda spooky. The ever changing maze was a task unto itself. I didnt mind it at all.

Does anyone else find the lyrics to the song during the Yule Ball to be extremely cringeworthy. Whoever wrote it was clearly trying to make sure the auidence knew it was a magical world song but the style of it ("dancing like a crazy elf" or something) just came across as a song that even 6 year olds would be too mature for.

I also think the casting of Krum was quite off as the actor they picked looked nothing like the Krum in the books.

Yes to both of these! I don't know why I didn't see them before, but I REALLY didn't like that song and thought it was quite silly. I like that they were trying to incorporate wizarding lyrics, but I agree that it just came off more like "We Sing Silly Songs" (anyone have those as a kid?).

I didn't mind with the look of Krum, as there are many characters who don't really match what their character should look like (last I checked I couldn't find Rupert's long nose and freckles). What bothered me more was his characterization - mainly the fist pumping! When he flies out at the World Cup and is pumping his fist, the way he saunters in in his jacket when Durmstrang arrives like he is above everyone else (none of the other kids are wearing jackets), his fist pump celebration when he finds out he is a Triwizard Champion. I never thought Krum was all that dislikable in the books. He was kind of just this shy, reclusive guy who hung out at the library a lot and happened to be very good at Quidditch. I didn't find him that different from Harry in the respect that I never got the sense that Viktor enjoyed his celebrity (well, not until the his DH line about all the pretty girls being taken and the uselesness of being an international Quidditch star). The movies totally changed this around, which to me is way worse than just not having him match the description.

Then again, maybe that's just my interpretation of Krum.

There's a million upon a million of things to pick here!


1. Although I would love to say something unique and wildly interesting, Angry!Dumbledore gets the first place. For reasons we all know..

2. Among all the characters the screenwriters misplaced, I think Barty Crouch Sr. got the shortest straw. I was really looking forward to him - strict, cold and authorative. Instead we got this nervous, mumbly guy, and the character would've needed more screentime anyways IMO.

3. Yule ball song was pretty horrid, yes. Cringeworthy, to say the least. But I have to say that the scene afterwards is brilliant! It really pictures the awkwardness and sadness incredibly well and is one of my all-time fave HP movie moments! Rupert's "they get ... when they're older" (can't remember what it said tho) line is genius :D

The movies totally changed this around, which to me is way worse than just not having him match the description.
Krum didnt bother me. His fist pumping i think, was to show hes used to attention and letting his fans know he acknowledges them. Personally, i kinda found Krum more likeable in the film. He seems easier to approach. The book says he was stand offish and a bit awkward. He's still slightly awkward in the movie though.

I was annoyed by Michael Gambon's pushing and shoving of Harry while asking him if he put his name in the GOF. I felt Michale got a little goofy with the role. I love his speaking voice in the part and he looked cool but he got a little weird with some of the aggressive stuff and I felt he was not as sensetive until the last scene in his bedroom. I hope he does a good job in King's cross.

Didn't it just feel like everything was rushed in this film. I mean, watch the way Dumbledore announces to the students who the champions are. He really seems like he's in a hurry.

And that's the case for a lot of the scenes.

I didn't like the way Snape kept hitting Ron on the back of his head when Ron was talking about getting a date for the Yule Ball. Snape was not physical in the book. Rather, he read that article out loud that Rita Skeeter wrote about Harry's love life.

I didn't like the way Snape kept hitting Ron on the back of his head when Ron was talking about getting a date for the Yule Ball. Snape was not physical in the book. Rather, he read that article out loud that Rita Skeeter wrote about Harry's love life.

In that respect though, as much as I love Alan Rickman, the direction for Snape has been pretty silly. I mean, Snape is supposed to be scary. He's more funny than scary.

Harry's (Radcliffe's) hair drove me absolutlely NUTS throughout the entire film. Like enough to almost to ruin the entire film for me. Why couldn't he have just gotten a haircut? Ron (Grint's) bugged me too, but not nearly as much.
Does anyone else find the lyrics to the song during the Yule Ball to be extremely cringeworthy?
Yes, definitely! That weird rock song ruined the magic of the Yule Ball for me.

Does anyone else find the lyrics to the song during the Yule Ball to be extremely cringeworthy?
ugh yes! that and Flitwick crowd surfing drive me mad every time i see it.

-Their long hair didn't bother me. Well, actually the twins hair did look a bit too long but Harry's looked fine. I imagine it that way sometimes.

-The way Snape comes off in the movies is completely wrong. He's like a slightly mean and sarcastic teacher in the movies...

-Flitwick just being used for comic relief. He's a powerful wizard, not goofy. The crowd surfing thing made me feel like he was a little kid.

-Dumbledore being creepy and aggressive and shouting

-the weird song at the ball

-seeing Crouch JR in the beginning of the movie

-not seeing much of the world cup (you don't even see who wins)

-that weird thing Fred and George were chanting in the tent about how Ron loves Krum

-Krum looking and acting nothing like Krum

-"Do you want me to open it?!"

-Durmstrang being an all boys school and Beauxbatons being an all girl school and their performance into the school (if you can call what Beauxbatons did a performance)

-The movie feeling rushed

-Sirius in the fire- not how I imagined it at all

-I love magic

-Why was Hermione's dress pink?

-At the end where Ron is saying he won't write to Harry. I know that its supposed to mirror Harry's frustration with them in ootp but it was still a bit odd. Why wouldn't Ron write Harry?

-Hermione telling them to go to bed

-The explanation of Krum's behavior in the maze is that the maze changes you?

-The maze should have at least 1 creature. And should include the scene with the spider, Harry getting his leg hurt and Harry trying to convince Cedric to take the cup. I felt that in the movie they were still enemies. The scene of them chasing each other to the cup, trying to get it...

-Barty jr being at the trials and then running away when he was accused. if the idiot hadn't tried to run away they might have thought Karkaroff was lying.

-Madam Maxine eating something out of Hagrid's beard..... What????
-No Bill or Charlie
-Fred and George fighting

I could go on. Its all the little things that are wrong that really irk me.

-At the end where Ron is saying he won't write to Harry. I know that its supposed to mirror Harry's frustration with them in ootp but it was still a bit odd. Why wouldn't Ron write Harry?

Thank you! I was so upset by this whole conversation where they all don't want to write to each other all the time, it is so against their characters! Nobody else I talked to mentioned it or seemed bothered by it.

I agree with what everyone has said I think for the most part, but I was also definitely really, really disappointed in the whole Dumbledore yelling thing, not like him at all, as others have already pointed out.

There were other things that bothered me, but those seem to be the top two and the ones that still bother me to this day.

-The explanation of Krum's behavior in the maze is that the maze changes you?
Actually Harry tells Cedric that Krum is bewitched. Since we had some exposition about the Imperius curse, i think it was pretty self explanatory.

-not seeing much of the world cup (you don't even see who wins)
Agreed. I was all "Man..."

I think the thing that really really annoyed me was Dumbledore's aggresiveness in the film. That was an all new low to me.
I also didn't like the pace of the movie it seemed kind of rushed as well.

I think I wanted the entire quidditch cup, game/camping/dark mark scene to be longer and more involved. And angry Dumbledore really annoys me. Voldemorts return seemed insanely rushed to me. Fiennes seemed to be rushing through his lines to say them as quickly as possible.

"You want me to open it?"

*Cringe cringe cringe cringe cringe*

I don't really have many complaints about the GOF movie, although I was a bit irritated when Harry was suddenly an attention seeker in the Gryffindor common room after getting the golden egg: "Who wants me to open it? YOU WANT ME TO OPEN IT?!" So out of character (and I should mention that apart from little moments like these, I am quite happy with Dan Radcliffe's portrayal of Harry and the filmmakers' interpretation of Harry's personality).

The only scene I really missed was what happens in the Hospital Wing after Harry is sent there following the Third Task. I found that part to be really moving in the book, and I was disappointed that it was omitted from the film. It would also have been a nice set-up for OOTP, I think. And, as usual, Harry's end-of-the-year conversation with Dumbledore is reduced to almost nothing, aside from a mumbled and unexplained "Priori Incantatem" :shrug: The ending just felt rushed, IMO.

I didn't like the way Dumbledore was sort of shouting about how Cedric died and that Voldemort had returned. I imagined his speech to be more calm.

And it would've been better if Winky was there.

Harry's (Radcliffe's) hair drove me absolutlely NUTS throughout the entire film. Like enough to almost to ruin the entire film for me. Why couldn't he have just gotten a haircut? Ron (Grint's) bugged me too, but not nearly as much.

Oh my gosh, yes! It drives me insane, I did not like it at all.
-And "Who wants me to open it?" is probably the worst line in the entire franchise.
-Also, the fact that there is nothing, nothing, that suggests the Third Task is dangerous besides the maze threatening to eat the champions (which I don't even remember happening in the book) and Krum being all weird.
-Emma Watson, who is usually fantastic, completely over-acted in GOF. It was too much, and it wasn't believable.
-The World Cup. The first time I saw that I was like, "Wait--what?"
-The script wasn't very good, the lines were kind of weak in some areas.

I won't get carried away. Yes, GOF is my least favorite HP movie, but I don't want to start hating on it too much...Because the entire film annoys me, really.

And, as usual, Harry's end-of-the-year conversation with Dumbledore is reduced to almost nothing, aside from a mumbled and unexplained "Priori Incantatem" :shrug: The ending just felt rushed, IMO.

Yeah I really expected Dumbledore's smile when Harry told him that Pettigrew used his blood to revive Voldy

GOF is my least favorite film.
1. Emma Watson tried a little too much for my taste. Her character isnt like Hermione at all in this film. I dont like that they implied that Hermione is the better friend to Harry then Ron :(
2. The hair-OMG they needed to cut their hair. Harry, Ron, and the twins all had long hair! I mean at least have one character woth long hair not all four.
3. The whole movie seemed idk rushed?

2. The hair-OMG they needed to cut their hair. Harry, Ron, and the twins all had long hair! I mean at least have one character woth long hair not all four.

If I remember correctly, at the time Goblet of Fire was filmed (2004), the nape/shoulder-length hairstyle was very popular with young men in real life (I was in high-school at the time, it was a trend in my school as well). I don't know if the actors all chose to grow their hair that long or if they were asked to by the filmmakers, however.

If I remember correctly, at the time Goblet of Fire was filmed (2004), the nape/shoulder-length hairstyle was very popular with young men in real life (I was in high-school at the time, it was a trend in my school as well). I don't know if the actors all chose to grow their hair that long or if they were asked to by the filmmakers, however.

Still, its painful to watch. It would be ok if one or two had long hair but all four is uncall for.

Does anybody else hate Hermionie's line when Fred and George try and put their name into the Goblet of Fire "It's not going to work?"

I've seen a lot of hate for that line recently, but I loved it! It's just like Hermione to revel in being right and "mature," then earnestly explain to the twins that Dumbledore cast the line so it must work. That was pretty much the only scene in GoF where they got Hermione right.

Does anybody else hate Hermionie's line when Fred and George try and put their name into the Goblet of Fire "It's not going to work?"


Yeah, it gets on my nerves. Blind faith in a person's abilities is a pet peeve of mine, and in that moment she is showing complete blind faith that Dumbledore is infalable. Not to mention she is being cocky about it. The delivery was all wrong.

Yeah, it gets on my nerves. Blind faith in a person's abilities is a pet peeve of mine, and in that moment she is showing complete blind faith that Dumbledore is infalable. Not to mention she is being cocky about it. The delivery was all wrong.

I didn't like that line, either, nor the way it was delivered, (for some reason, I didn't like Emma's performance in GoF at all :hmm:). But I think they had to clarify that it was impossible for underage students to cross the line, or else Harry getting his name in the cup wouldn't have looked as suspicious and dangerous as it was supposed to be.

To me, it was how Hermione said the line, "It's not going to work", in a sing-song voice.

To me, it was how Hermione said the line, "It's not going to work", in a sing-song voice.

I agree, the tone was annoying....

I didn't like the lack of elves. Like, they were really needed for the story and for the other movies to come. Oh, and of course, Dumbledore calmly asking Harry if he put his name in the Goblet of fiyah.

The deleted scene of Snape and Karkaroff talking during the Yule Ball - what annoyed me was that it was deleted. :D

Well GOF is definitely in my opinion the worst HP movie for many reasons.
I just watched the first half of the movie the now so everything which i hated about this movie is fresh in my mind:

1) I hate the first scene with Harry, Ron and Hermionie when Hermionie wakes Harry and Ron up to go the the Quidditch world cup. I hate how Hermionie comes across as extremely patronising. She calls Ron "Ronald" which really annoys me because i'm pretty sure Hermionie never calls him that in the books.

2) I think everybody hates this bit "I love magic" haha! its so cheesy and silly!

3) I hate Fred and George in this movie. They are not funny and they are actually really annoying! I hate the part when they are in the tent and they both shout together at the same time "Feet off the table" and "Get out of the kitchen Ron!" Yes they are twins but that doesn't mean they say the same things at the same time.

4) We then actually go to the Quidditch match. Krum is the star player of the match but i don't like how they have him doing fancy tricks in the air on his broom such as swinging off of it. Its also a bit of anti-climax seeing the stadium and the team entrances but then not the actual match!

5) We then go back to the tent and have to suffer a range of cheesy lines from Fred, George, Ginny and Ron such as "theres no-one like Krum" "He's more than an athlete...he's an artist" "are you in love Ron?" as well a very cringey song which is about Ron being in love with Krum which is just silly.

6) Death Eater's hats...need i say more??? There is also no muggle that they are torturing!

7) I then hate Emma Watson's delivery when she says the line "Its the dark mark Harry. Its his mark" Its just very poorly done! Winky is also completely excluded from this scene! Well from the whole movie!!

8) We are then on the train to Hogwarts. I think the whole beginning goes too fast. It feels very rushed when you are watching it.

9) The next thing i don't like happens when the students are in the great hall. Filch just comes running up to Dumbledore whispers something to him and then runs back. I never really understood what the point of this scene was?

10) The school entrances are also really stupid. Beuxbatons girls come in with a little dance, silly gasp, and bird paper things which tweet. There is also a random acrobat which comes in with them. The Durmstrang students have wooden poles which they bang about again with a random acrobat. I just was never particularly impressed by this scene

11) My next rant is about mad-eye. Our first shot of him is when he is outside the school in the rain standing in a puddle. I never really understood what the point of this scene was. He then enters the Great Hall and there is some random lightening and thunder on the ceiling which he stops with his wand. What was that all about?

12)"auror?" I hate Dean Thomas' delivery when he says that line!!!

13) I also hate the delivery when Harry says "I don't know but i don't think its pumpkin juice"

14) Dumbledore's beard...that is just bloody annoying!! Its in a ponytail with beads dangling from it...yuck!

15) Emma Watson is absolutley terrible is the unforgivable curses scene. Her acting, eyebrow movements and delivery are horrificly bad!!

16) Next thing i didn't like is the whole scene where people put their names into the Goblet. Again Emma Watson is terrible: "Its not going to work." How people think she is a good actress i'll never know! The whole Fred and George rolling around on the floor thing is annoying as well "you said" "you said" I don't even get what that means!

17) Angry Dumbledore...i think you all know what i'm talking about!

18) Sirius' head in the fire in my opinion was very poorly done!

19) Emma Watson again...when she cheers when Harry flys back to the stadium during the first task. Yuck! Its so false and over-the-top

20) "Who wants me to open it?"

21) "Bambling bumbling band of baboons!" horrible line! It annoys me even more how Fred and George then try and say it really fast...god they are so annoying in this movie!

why did they have carriages outside during the Yule Ball? the students were already there, they didn't come by carriage. and we hear giggling from the inside. Snape runs up to each carriage points his wand and the door opens and two students come out.

the part of Filch running to Dumbledore, he was telling Dumbledore that the guests had arrived which was odd because everyone saw the ship and the powder blue carriage arrive.
and for Moody- when he pulled out his wand, he mentioned "stupid ceiling"
Fred and George were rolling on the floor because each thought the aging potion would work.

the part of Filch running to Dumbledore, he was telling Dumbledore that the guests had arrived which was odd because everyone saw the ship and the powder blue carriage arrive.
Maybe there's an audio channel available and I haven't heard what he whispered, but I assumed that either Filch was being overzealous and interrupting Dumbledore to tell him the obvious, or the guests were impatient to enter.

It truly wouldn't make sense that he'd have meant to inform Dumbledore that they had arrived at Hogwarts, but if he merely said that they had arrived at the hall, it seems fine to me, whether it was part of the ongoing "Filch is incompetent" thread (cf. the cannon issues) or an implication that the foreign guests were demanding and unreasonable.

the part of Filch running to Dumbledore, he was telling Dumbledore that the guests had arrived which was odd because everyone saw the ship and the powder blue carriage arrive.

Oh right! well that was still stupid then because they knew the guests had arrived!

and for Moody- when he pulled out his wand, he mentioned "stupid ceiling"

Yeah i noticed he said that. I still dont understand what is was all about though. Was the audience supposed to think Moody had caused it?

Yeah i noticed he said that. I still dont understand what is was all about though. Was the audience supposed to think Moody had caused it?

I thought it was to show Moody as some sort of hero, at least that's how I felt when I saw it. But then again, that doesn't make any sense does it?! Nothing in GoF makes sense. Such as, you're really going to spend an enormous amount of money on CGI for the first task, a scene that half of the audience hated? There was no need to drag it out that much. With that money they could have created the house elves!

The only thing I kind of liked in this movie was the 2nd task, which is also my favorite task in the book. But honestly, if you're going to do a scene UNDERWATER, don't you think it would have been better if Harry's hair was SHORT so he doesn't look like he has a floating bowl on top of his head?

Gosh, I can't stop ranting about this movie. It was just on a few times for the Harry Potter Weekend, and I absolutely refused to watch it. It's so bad it makes me want to not read the book, which is a problem.

The beginning was so rushed- I felt like I was waiting for the end of each scene but instead I got the next scene.

I did not like how Beauxbatons and Durmstrang arrived before Dumbledore even mentioned the Tournament, or better yet, how they arrived on the first day of school. It makes no sense. Also, why were they solely all-girl and all-boy schools? Why change something that had no effect on the plot?

Lack of house-elves, especially Winky. Her character helped us to understand the whole Crouch plot.

The drawn out first task. Time could have been better spent, oh I don't know, explaining "Priori Incantatem" than watching a dragon chase Harry.

Dumbledore. I think this has been harped on enough, but his reaction to Harry's name coming out of the goblet drives me crazy.

This is kind of trivial, but the fact that Harry's dress robes are black, instead of green. They didn't look like anything special, just fancier school robes, IMO.

They did not show Harry giving his Triwizard earnings to Fred and George. I thought it was a beautiful moment in the book and it sets the twins up for their shop later on.

Tenant was actually a good choice for Crouch Jr. Crouch Jr is made to be almost insane (albeit cunning) after Azkaban. They just messed up the Crouch mystery so badly. It wasn't even a mystery. It made no sense in the movie.

Fred and George are so bad in the movie. I hated it so much because they are so funny in the books. I lost a lot of hope for the characters in the movies after GoF. :(

There were like 5 or 6 DE's in the graveyard. WHAT?!?! It was like some kind of joke. What power does Voldemort have when only 5 death eaters show up to his rebirth. In the book there are at least 30 of them.

why did they have carriages outside during the Yule Ball? the students were already there, they didn't come by carriage. and we hear giggling from the inside. Snape runs up to each carriage points his wand and the door opens and two students come out.
Those were most likely the Beauxbatons' carriages and they rode in them from where they were staying up to the castle.

Overall I think Emma Waston acting was so bad in this film. Her eyebrow moment annoys me so much and she trys wayyyy to hard sometimes. Harry,Ron,Fred and George's long hair bother me as well.

GOF was the first Potter film I saw in the theater (and not due to age - I'm almost 40). ...and this was only because my wife wanted to go.

Oddly enough, I thought it was good enough, and the story compelling enough, that it finally got me into the larger story (although it wasn't until the release of the OOTP film that I got off my butt and started reading the series).

That gaving been said, after reading the series a few times and seeing all the films (so far), I now find the GOF film comparatively poor. I'm so glad I saw the film before I read the book, because I would have been hugely disappointed otherwise.

Now, there is a lot going on in the GOF story, so I understand that cuts had to be made, and that brings with it certin modifications in order to get important plot points across in the little time there is to do so.

But I just don't get why certain things were cut, others added, and the pacing so awkward.

If I had to pick one thing... hmm, tough choice... OK, given how well Emma has handled the last two films, watching her in GOF is cringe-inducing. She may have needed to go through this to get where she is now, but the director should have caught on and got her some better help.

Some day perhaps I'll expand on this, but if I listed the ten most important points of the GOF story, I doubt the movie satisfactorally covered four of them. That irks me as well.

Well GOF is definitely in my opinion the worst HP movie for many reasons.
I just watched the first half of the movie the now so everything which i hated about this movie is fresh in my mind:

1) I hate the first scene with Harry, Ron and Hermionie when Hermionie wakes Harry and Ron up to go the the Quidditch world cup. I hate how Hermionie comes across as extremely patronising. She calls Ron "Ronald" which really annoys me because i'm pretty sure Hermionie never calls him that in the books.

2) I think everybody hates this bit "I love magic" haha! its so cheesy and silly!

3) I hate Fred and George in this movie. They are not funny and they are actually really annoying! I hate the part when they are in the tent and they both shout together at the same time "Feet off the table" and "Get out of the kitchen Ron!" Yes they are twins but that doesn't mean they say the same things at the same time.

4) We then actually go to the Quidditch match. Krum is the star player of the match but i don't like how they have him doing fancy tricks in the air on his broom such as swinging off of it. Its also a bit of anti-climax seeing the stadium and the team entrances but then not the actual match!

5) We then go back to the tent and have to suffer a range of cheesy lines from Fred, George, Ginny and Ron such as "theres no-one like Krum" "He's more than an athlete...he's an artist" "are you in love Ron?" as well a very cringey song which is about Ron being in love with Krum which is just silly.

6) Death Eater's hats...need i say more??? There is also no muggle that they are torturing!

7) I then hate Emma Watson's delivery when she says the line "Its the dark mark Harry. Its his mark" Its just very poorly done! Winky is also completely excluded from this scene! Well from the whole movie!!

8) We are then on the train to Hogwarts. I think the whole beginning goes too fast. It feels very rushed when you are watching it.

9) The next thing i don't like happens when the students are in the great hall. Filch just comes running up to Dumbledore whispers something to him and then runs back. I never really understood what the point of this scene was?

10) The school entrances are also really stupid. Beuxbatons girls come in with a little dance, silly gasp, and bird paper things which tweet. There is also a random acrobat which comes in with them. The Durmstrang students have wooden poles which they bang about again with a random acrobat. I just was never particularly impressed by this scene

11) My next rant is about mad-eye. Our first shot of him is when he is outside the school in the rain standing in a puddle. I never really understood what the point of this scene was. He then enters the Great Hall and there is some random lightening and thunder on the ceiling which he stops with his wand. What was that all about?

12)"auror?" I hate Dean Thomas' delivery when he says that line!!!

13) I also hate the delivery when Harry says "I don't know but i don't think its pumpkin juice"

14) Dumbledore's beard...that is just bloody annoying!! Its in a ponytail with beads dangling from it...yuck!

15) Emma Watson is absolutley terrible is the unforgivable curses scene. Her acting, eyebrow movements and delivery are horrificly bad!!

16) Next thing i didn't like is the whole scene where people put their names into the Goblet. Again Emma Watson is terrible: "Its not going to work." How people think she is a good actress i'll never know! The whole Fred and George rolling around on the floor thing is annoying as well "you said" "you said" I don't even get what that means!

17) Angry Dumbledore...i think you all know what i'm talking about!

18) Sirius' head in the fire in my opinion was very poorly done!

19) Emma Watson again...when she cheers when Harry flys back to the stadium during the first task. Yuck! Its so false and over-the-top

20) "Who wants me to open it?"

21) "Bambling bumbling band of baboons!" horrible line! It annoys me even more how Fred and George then try and say it really fast...god they are so annoying in this movie!

I agree with almost everything you listed. Emma Watson acting in this film is just so....bad. Sorry :(

What is not annoying about that film? They have murdered the book! It's the only movie that I really don't like. When I re-read the books this year for the firts time in a long time, it hit me again, how wonderful that book is! The story is so well woven, the characters, all of it is so cool and the movie changed so much of it!
I found the Yule Ball scenes ok and all but they changed too much... as Snapesandarrows said: "Some day perhaps I'll expand on this, but if I listed the ten most important points of the GOF story, I doubt the movie satisfactorally covered four of them. That irks me as well."
I have to agree...

I actually thought that Fred and George were really funny in the film...

Some day perhaps I'll expand on this, but if I listed the ten most important points of the GOF story, I doubt the movie satisfactorally covered four of them. That irks me as well.

What are the ten most "important" points of the GoF story? Please do list them.


I have to agree...

And I have to disagree. I see it essentially as a story about "right" vs "easy" choices concerning personal values.

It really annoys me that they bothered to make Mrs. Norris's eyes red but not Voldemort's, I mean, red eyes are one of his most dominant features.

Also old Dumbly and his angry yelling-ness is far to out of character for my liking.

It really annoys me that they bothered to make Mrs. Norris's eyes red but not Voldemort's, I mean, red eyes are one of his most dominant features.

Also old Dumbly and his angry yelling-ness is far to out of character for my liking.

I often wondered why Voldemort's eyes were not red in the films. His features were so grotesque that they alone struck fear into who ever saw him. With all the technology, why avoid this major detail in his appearance? Also, I was so upset with DD's portrayal in the GoF movie. DD came off as an old man going through a strange temper tantrum. It irks me each time I see him grab Harry and bellow at him. I am so glad that finally Gambon began acting like the DD in the books by the time OotP and HBP came out.

2 Things:

No SPEW! :O and the boys all had long hair... not good.

:rave:

THE HAIR D:

oh wow I have such a thing with hair and guys with long hair are just a no go. even though Harry and Ron didn't necessarily have long hair but it was getting there and it was so mess and all over the place I was distracted by it and thought it wasn't attractive at all. HAHA.

Then I agree with people complaining about voldemort's eyes. They should have made them red in the movies too. I dont get why they didn't I mean it's such an essential part of how he looks in the books why didn't they do that in the movie?

SPEW was missing too. :/

SPEW was missing too. :/

I hated that S.P.E.W. wasn't at least mentioned in the movie, too. A major theme in the series was the social injustice suffered by magical beings (centaurs, elves, goblins, etc.). Also, I also hated that Dobby and Winky didn't even make it into the movie. No respect for the House Elves at all.

Some other of my gripes about GoF:


Dumbledore being too agitated and yelling at Harry -- No, no, no. Dumbledore hardly ever raised his voice. He didn't have to. That was one of the things that I think made him so impressive. Not the shouting maniac that accosted Harry after his name came out of the Goblet.

Too much time spent on the Dragon task -- at least Harry's part. They could have shown some of the others and tiheir dragons. That would have been just as interesting, if not more so. Also, if Hogwarts is that dryrotting and falling apart, I'm surprised it hasn't collapsed. It's magical, for pity sakes, and I doubt if it's prone to the usual maladies of old buildings.

Not enough time spent on the World Quidditch Finals. All that build up and then, pfsst, gone. No leprechauns fighting Veelas, nothing shown of the match itself...

Harry's line: "I love magic." This is the fourth book, Harry. Aren't you used to magic by now?

The deleted scenes from the Yule ball between Snape and Karkaroff. These would have gone a long way in explaining the impending return of Voldemort...Karkaroff's Dark Mark getting darker.

What was Karkaroff doing in the scene when he was going inside Hogwarts and sneakily shutting the door. I know it was to throw suspicion on him for being the one who entered Harry in the Goblet, but, the scene made no sense. Where was he actually suppose to be going?

I often wondered why Voldemort's eyes were not red in the films. His features were so grotesque that they alone struck fear into who ever saw him. With all the technology, why avoid this major detail in his appearance? Also, I was so upset with DD's portrayal in the GoF movie. DD came off as an old man going through a strange temper tantrum. It irks me each time I see him grab Harry and bellow at him. I am so glad that finally Gambon began acting like the DD in the books by the time OotP and HBP came out.

Heyman once said in an interview that they didnt make voldemorts eyes red because its harder to convey emotion thru red eyes. Its on the GOF dvd and bluray in the special feature about voldemort.

1. I agree with most about Dumledore's yelling at Harry.
2. I didn't like Fred and George fighting when they got the beards, they thought it was a great joke in the book.
3. The whole end of the movie stunk starting with Dumbledore cursing Barty Crouch Jr. Those were the stupidest questions I ever heard. Thier was no parting of ways with Fudge, and where was Sirius during the end of the movie.

For me from POA to OOTP they got so many things wrong. HBP was such an improvement, apart from the stupid scene at the burrow and the lack of a battle & Dumbledores funeral the the end.

The worst thing about the total lack of World Cup action is that it just didn't work as a film, regardless of how it relates to the books. You can't just include a massive load of build up for an event and then totally skip it. The pacing was terrible.

I hated the underuse of Sirius as well. The way his face was made out of wood in the fire was just silly. OOTP's fire communication scene was a bit better at least.

I don't remember it explaining that Krum had been imperioused in the third task. Most people probably just assumed he was evil.

Oh well. Unlike some I enjoyed the graveyard scene, and at least there were house elves riding llamas. :)

I don't remember it explaining that Krum had been imperioused in the third task. Most people probably just assumed he was evil.



Harry mentions it in Moody's office, when he figures out that Moody was setting him up. Harry says "You bewitched Krum".

Dumbledore's yelling when he confronted Harry about putting his name is the GOF. Also, no Dobby or Winky =(

I was a bit disappointed that there was absolute no Winky. Dumbledore's yelling was also very uncharacteristic.

Like people said above me, Dumbledore yelling and the fact that there were no house elves annoyed me.

I guess was annoyed me most about GoF was the lack of explanation. In the book, there is a whole chapter devoted to explaining everything that was happening all year. The end kind of seemed like, 'Wow, Moody is really Barty Crouch Jr. let's go mourn Cedric". There was really no explanation of why Crouch Jr. was posing at Moody, except for the fact he was a death eater. However, they didn't really explain anything about the Crouches so it was obvious why they left out the explanaion at the end.

oh so many things annoyed me, cut off of the world cup...what the heck was that??
changing so many of the plots, i kept thinking, no thats wrong, thats wrong too, thats not right during it
for example dobby not giving harry the gillyweed, no spew, harry taking off the cloak and shouting when seeing dragons, dumbledore yelling, the other schools coming right away without any mention
maximes girls sighing seductivly when they came in with the birds flying , my goodness
crouch jr in harrys vision, he is not in it people!
no parting of the ways
many of the silly stupid lines/scenes
when the dragon escapes and nobody cares?? what the hell?

the stupid long hair the boys all had, so distracting
dumbledore yelling at harry
no winky
watsons acting, really not that good

the worst was the whole pacing of it, and all of the little things they changed
really not a good movie at all

Had a HP marathon last night, and all the way threw GOF all we did was complain about how Dumbledore is a moody **** all the way through. Dumbledore doesnt yell like a mad man or ever man handle students. Such a drastic error in the way Gambon portrayed him.

While it wasn't a movie breaker, Dumbledore's angry throttling of Harry annoyed me and actually made me cringe. If it were someone like Karkaroff or Crouch even, I'd be better. They should've saved the true fury of Dumbledore until when Crouch Jr is unmasked, so to speak, or even better when he battles Voldemort in the next film.

I also despised Harry's sudden enjoying of his fame. "You want me to open it?!?" And then later when Harry says, "I am the chosen one." Regardless if he was "kidding" in Half Blood Prince. And, Harry is supposed to be 14 years old, yet he sticks his tongue out and goes, "Eww" at Hagrid having a moment with Madame Maxine? Good grief, grow up.

Also of course, "I love magic." RiffTrax pointed this out in their Order of the Phoenix Riff. "Amazing... what, the buildings moving? No - that he's still amazed at magic after four freaking movies."

My biggest confusion about the film was when Karkaroff goes to the Goblet of Fire, but the scene ominously and abruptly cuts to the next scene. What was the point of that, again?

And of course my biggest complaint: No Dobby. :(

While it wasn't a movie breaker, Dumbledore's angry throttling of Harry annoyed me and actually made me cringe. If it were someone like Karkaroff or Crouch even, I'd be better. They should've saved the true fury of Dumbledore until when Crouch Jr is unmasked, so to speak, or even better when he battles Voldemort in the next film.

And of course my biggest complaint: No Dobby. :(

I so agree with you. Dumbledore's anger in that scene was so uncharacteristic. That scene continues to irk me to this day.

One last thing, I missed Dobby so much in the fourth film. He is such an important character throughout a good portion of the series. I wish they didn't focus so much on the tournament and added tidbits about S.P.E.W. I'm glad to see that they wised up and kept him in the DH Part 1.

And, Harry is supposed to be 14 years old, yet he sticks his tongue out and goes, "Eww" at Hagrid having a moment with Madame Maxine? Good grief, grow up.

Pretty standard behaviour for a 14 year old boy, I would say. How grown up and mature are the 14 year olds you know?


My biggest confusion about the film was when Karkaroff goes to the Goblet of Fire, but the scene ominously and abruptly cuts to the next scene. What was the point of that, again?


Obviously, to suggest that Karkaroff might be the one who put Harry's name in the GoF!

It is a mystery story as well as an adventure: the audience ought not to lose sight, amongst the dragons, etc., of the fact that somebody set Harry up.

l've said this before but the boys long hair eww :(
oh and Emma acting she moves her eyebrows too much just like the girl from Twilight

I didn't much care for Harry's hair, but Ron's didn't bother me. What bothered me was the truncated Wizard's cup scene and the scene with where he find Crouch on the ground.

GoF is my least favourite movie.. It's a while since i've seen it now, so im just going to write down what i remember from it.

As someone mentioned earlier in the thread, the pacing is horrible. Building up to the World Cup Final and then just skip the match :huh:

I like many of the scenes in the movie, but i feel that its to much focus on the big scenes, like the 3 tasks, the Yule bal and the graveyard scene. It just goes from one big scene, then a few minutes of unimportant stuff, and then next big scene.

I understand that it must have been hard to make such a long book into a 2,5 hour movie and i don't have any idea of what they could have done to make it better. I just really don't like the movie :grumble:

I was just watching the scene where Voldemort returns again, and I remember how annoying Harry/Dan's screams are. Sure, he's in a lot of pain, but he just keeps screaming and screaming and screaming, and half the time it's not even convincing. You know how much agony he's in, but at the same time his screams are almost comical. Especially when Voldemort is rising out of the cauldron (by the way what was that about--the cauldron just disenigrates?) Harry is wailing at the top of his lungs like a baby, and you can hear it even though it's muted.

The other thing from that scene was that when Wormtail cuts off his arm, he gives one quiet, unconvincing yell and that's it. Unlike the book, which put so much emphasis on him rolling around crying and shouting and bleeding, he simply cuts it off and it's like it never even happened. It's almost confusing because Voldemort gives him a new arm, but you might stop and think, "why's he doing that?" because you forgot that Wormtail doesn't have an arm because apparently it wasn't very painful to have it sliced off.

GOF is my least favorite movie. From the beginning it's too rush, we have all the preparation to see the World Cup and we only see Krum on his broom and back to the tent. I understand the changes in the movie for fast pacing, but the tongue "lizard" thing with Crouch Jr. is too revealing and annoying. They repeated too often, the same goes with Moody drinking polijuice potion every moment you see him. How more revealing can you be? My husband who only watches the movies knew who the bad guys were before the conclusion of the movie. He even told me in the theater during the part where Karkarov is closing the door in the Great Hall, that it was a false trail and Moody was an impostor.

I just finished watching GoF....

I found a lot of the scenes didn't meld very well (mainly in the first half). They just felt rushed and out of place. The tournament scenes were great though, especially the maze and then the climax with voldemort.

Dobby Dobby Dobby! The movies never show enough Dobby, if you've never read the books and you watch the Deathly Hallows you just go hey why is Dobby back and why should I care that he's dead? Dobby Dobby Dobby! Haha
Yeah that and this movie rushed allllloootttt

GOF is a horrible movie - no wonder with a director like Mike Newell what did people expect?

There is far too much emphasis on the uncertainty of who put Harry's name in the Goblet such as the shot of Karkaroff "sneaking" into the room with the goblet inside. For people who have read the books all of these shots were a waste of time and for those who hadn't read the books, well they were already confused and mixed up anyway and these shots confused them more. These shots are annoying and make re-watching boring. This combined with the pace made the movie extremely confusing for non book readers.

I hate the change in some of the characters in this movie. Gambon's Dumbledore was terrible and was nothing like Dumbledore and Rickman's Snape was unlike Snape. Snape is supposed to be cruel - the hitting Ron and Harry on the head with books was far to comical for such a pivotal and complex character. I don't think this was any of the actors faults however and poor direction and script writing was responsible.

I think the story and pace of the movie would have benefited if the beginning Quiddich World Cup scene was cut. That scene should have been included in full with the match or left out because to be honest it was just a let down for fans. It added nothing to the plot for non book readers.

Cheesy dialogue? need I say more?

And my last point is Emma Watson. God she was terrible in this movie. Maybe I'm missing something but I honestly don't understand how people think she is a good actress. I'm sure she is a very nice girl but she was horrific in this movie (must admit she has improved recently) her acting was over the top and made Hermionie less realistic and beleivable. Maybe thats just me?

Anyway GOF is a big **** stain in the Potter franchise!

I agree with what most people have said. My biggest problem was how much was cut.

1. No Dursleys. I actually felt the entire beginning was rushed. The campsite and Quidditch World Cup was so rushed I think either the script writer or the editor were on speed.

2. No Dobby, Winky or SPEW. Including Dobby in the movie would refresh peoples memories on who he actually is and made his death in DH more sad. People who went to see Deathly Hallows hadn't seen him since Chamber of Secrets so some probably won't even remember who he is. I thought SPEW was a nice storyline for Hermione too. Discrimination, civil rights, freedom and liberation is a major theme in the Harry Potter books. I love Dobby and Winky's scenes in the QWC and woods too :(

3. Cringy moments. "Victor, I love you, Victor I do!" "YOU WANT ME TO OPEN IT??"

4. Agree with Dan, Rupert and the twins hair. It was a popular haircut in England at the time but looking back they look homeless!

5. Dumbeldore shouting. I really don't like Michael Gambon as Dumbledore anyway but this has to be the worst! I also didn't like the way he delivered the Cedric/Voldemort speech at the end. I miss Richard Harris :(

6. They cut the scene with Harry/Dumbledore (and the glint in Dumbledore's eye when Harry said Voldemort could touch him) and (possibly the most important one) the Parting of the Ways! It's kinda the turning point in the story and sets up the rest of the movies, kinda important producers/writers!

That's all I can think of right now.

GOF was a wonderful movie:)

M 2nd most favourite in the HP series but as some other members have mentioned before...I also didnt like Dumbledore shouting on Harry...

Apart from that,every thing was very well indeed:agree:

Just finished re-reading the book, probably my second fav of the book series. What a let down the movie is though, so much was cut that is vital to actually understanding the story. No wonder people who have only seen the movies literally only understand half of the stuff that goes on, the amount of times i've had to explain things to people....

I actually watched this film last night and found that a lot of the acting rubbed me the wrong way. I agree with what a lot of people are saying, Dumbledore was ridiculous in this movie. It almost hurt me to watch the scenes with him. Also, Mad Eye just seemed very off. I know the actor was supposed to act like jr. acting to be mad eye but I didn't really think his character was not well done. One other problem I had with the film was that Dobby or any of the house elf scenes were not in there!

Before the first two tasks, Fred and George were taking bets, but they were not for the third task. That seemed incongruous to me.

Also, I though they should have included the scene from the book where Ron suggests to Ginny that she go to the Yule Ball with Harry and she says she can't because she agreed to go with Neville. That should not have taken more than 30 seconds.

I actually watched this film last night and found that a lot of the acting rubbed me the wrong way. I agree with what a lot of people are saying, Dumbledore was ridiculous in this movie. It almost hurt me to watch the scenes with him. Also, Mad Eye just seemed very off. I know the actor was supposed to act like jr. acting to be mad eye but I didn't really think his character was not well done. One other problem I had with the film was that Dobby or any of the house elf scenes were not in there!
I agree that the entire house elf plot line was completely missing. Also, the fact that the maze was just a maze, without any other obstacles besides some readjusting walls was disappointing. No blast-ended skrewts :P

But I definitely agree with everyone's opinion on Dumbledore, his shouting was definitely very un-Dumbledore of him. Although, I must say, quoting this part is the occasional source of amusement for my brother and I... :p

I'm sure these have been mentioned before at least in part:

- Emma Watson's overacting after the Yule Ball. "Off to bed, both of you!" Her acting has made me cringe on occasion and this was one of the worst. (Sorry to the EW fans! <3)

- The competing school's entrance into the Great Hall. I didn't find either of the dancing entrances necessary. Canes that spark on the floor? Butterflies? B-boy moves? Yeah, not working for me.

Those were the two most prominent moments for me but I have seen several others mentioned in this thread.

what annoyed me about the movie vs the book
1. dobby gave harry the gillyweed, not neville
2.croutch (sp) didnt die in the woods randomly by his son...harry found croutch sr in the book and went to get dumbledore and krum got knocked out while croutch jr took is dad away-- also in the book he (sr) was turned into a bone
3. never mention the escape form azkaban (where croutch jr mom took his place) this is so interesting and i think important to know how hard it is to escape azkaban..
4. never mention any of that revelation at the end about the above mentioned
5. never mention winky...poor winky..
6. never mention dobby in general
7. never mention spew
8. the movie never mentions that harry used the maurders map and almost got caught by snape
9. harry cant talk underwater in the book
10. percy was a judge in place of crouch sr (most of the book crouch sr wasnt around)
11.the only reason i love the movie soo so much is because when cedric dies, the part is played so extremely well.

Yes! The maze was quite disappointing with no creatures or riddle. Not really necessary but it would've just been better lol

What annoysme most about GOF is they never expose Rita Skeeter as an unregistered animagus Beetle and have hermione catch her and keep her in a jar. Also how they only focus on the 3 events, but screwed up the maze from how it is in the books.

no quidditch world cup.
and the fact that they changed the rules for harry. that was annoying.

Two words,Tux Robes - Another two words, Prom Dresses. The yule ball was a joke why would wizards wear robes that mimic a muggle tux and why did Ron's look like it came from the 70's.

How about 15 minutes of Dragon chase but no Dobby,no Winky and no Bellatrix trial scene. I also hated how Crouch Sr. recognized his son because he did that "tongue" thing. Seriously, what was up with Barty Jr. and his tongue that was the silliest thing I ever saw.

Two words,Tux Robes - Another two words, Prom Dresses. The yule ball was a joke why would wizards wear robes that mimic a muggle tux and why did Ron's look like it came from the 70's.


There are Wizard Rock Bands in the Wizarding World.
Pretty sure something that is older than Rock and/or Roll should not have that much problem blending in. I dont know about Ron's.....but they didnt have the cash for new stuff.

I know that they were trying to save money so they cut out Winky and changed the story a little. But I thought that Winky's story was very important to the book. It also kind of made Harry look like a moron in the movies because he had already seen Barty Crouch Jr. twice (at the World Cup and in his recurring dream) and he never connected the dots to the guy he saw in the pensieve? You'd think he'd remember and recognize the face of the man in his dream. I was just very disappointed that they took out Winky- it made it so that the whole audience lost the mystery of what was happening with Moody/Crouch Jr. with the whole "snake tongue" thingy.

SPEW! I was looking forward to seeing it or at least them mentioning it. I was soooo sad when I found out they cut it out, and cut out Dobby (and Winky) as well. I felt it added more to Hermione's character.

There are Wizard Rock Bands in the Wizarding World.
Pretty sure something that is older than Rock and/or Roll should not have that much problem blending in. I dont know about Ron's.....but they didnt have the cash for new stuff.

Yes, in the book Molly had to buy second hand robes for Ron, and the movie robes look like the book ones are described.

There are plenty of things that annoyed me, but one thing on my mind now was the maze.In the book the maze actually had obsticles in it,but obviously in the movie all that happened was it got really windy and moved around a bit...

Dumbledore, easily. I mean, wow. You know the saying: Snape didn't kill Dumbledore, Michael Gambon did. The portrayal of him was just awful.

Still their hair. I also hate the dragon chase. I always fast forward through that part. I don't know if i have seen it in years.

I wish they hadn't cut the out the Hogwarts School Song. After the other two schools made such an amazing dramatic entrance, and then Dumbledore led Hogwarts in that totally tacky, yet typical, school song - well, the looks on people's faces were hilarious, I thought.

Other than that, no complaints. I loved the long hair and the over-the-top acting.

There were quite a lot of things that annoyed me about this movie, although I still think it's quite good overall:

* Crouch-Moody's tongue-flicking: much too obvious!
* Some of the Twins' lines were not that funny at all...calling Harry moral fiber, or the Krum song, for instance, were just silly rather than witty
* "Attention-seeking" Harry ("You want me to open it?")
* Hermione's over-use of her eyebrows
* The Third Task. It would have been so much better had they included at least some of the obstacles, like the Sphinx and the Screwts.
* The Quidditch World Cup. They should have actually shown the flying. What's the point of a long build-up and then...nothing?

On the other hand, unlike some other people, I did like the portrayal of Voldemort's return and Ron's jealousy. Their long hair didn't bother me that much, either.

Oh Attention seeking Harry. I hate that part too. It just seems so out of character to the rest of Harry throughout the series.

Dumbledore, easily. I mean, wow. You know the saying: Snape didn't kill Dumbledore, Michael Gambon did. The portrayal of him was just awful.

Yeah. Well, I guess I didn't find Gambon awful exactly, but it was wrong, I thought. He seemed to get better as the series went on, so that he was just fine in HBP and the two DH films. Why, I thought he was OK in PoA. Just GoF. In that film he seemed like he was just totally unhinged.

I think I would have found Gambon's Dumbledore more true to canon (in addition to his attitude) if his robes had been more like Harris's. They never changed in the books.

Oh Attention seeking Harry. I hate that part too. It just seems so out of character to the rest of Harry throughout the series.

That annoyed me, too. It's not true to the Harry in the books. Unfortunately, attention-seeking movie-Harry isn't limited to GoF. "But I am the Chosen One" in HBP? Urgh!!! I know this isn't the thread for HBP complaints, but just saying that I don't think it's a GoF thing only.

At least the "i am the chosen one" is true and while out of character he said it just to Hermione instead of to a crowd.

At least the "i am the chosen one" is true and while out of character he said it just to Hermione instead of to a crowd.

It's true, but Harry never wanted it, and he certainly never wanted it to have a chance with someone like Romilda Vane. He only said it in the book to persuade Slughorn to give him the memory.
If he'd said that in the book, Hermione would have pulled out her wand and incapacitated him until she could be sure he wasn't a Polyjuiced impostor.

lol. That is very true. It is very unlike book Harry. The weirdest thing is that he would even look at Romilda Vane when he was so into Ginny.

lol. That is very true. It is very unlike book Harry. The weirdest thing is that he would even look at Romilda Vane when he was so into Ginny.

Except that movie-Harry didn't seem all that "into Ginny". Hermione kept telling him he was, but he was more 'into" random waitresses.

About GoF, I hated Hermione.
I hated that scene with her in the Champions' tent before the first task and on the bridge after the Yule Ball where she says in a gasping voice;
"I'm scared for you...." or whatever.
I hated the ending when one moment they're all sad and mourning Cedric, then they are all laughing and Hermione says that horrible, "It's all going to change now...."

Yeah. I hate the waitress scene a lot more then the "i am the chosen one" scene. And i do think that they showed that Harry was into Ginny in HBP. Yeah the "i am scared for you" with Hermione was a little awkward as was the weird scene at the end with the three of them. Though i think that GoF was in general very awkward.

Quite a few things:

-All the non canon scenes were useless
-No S.P.E.W.
-Crouch story missing
-No scens between second and third task exept for the meeting in Dubledore's office
-Brige scene woth Hermione, so cheese!

I agree with previous posters as well - there are a lot of differences in the film compared to what was said in the book. I understand the time constraints the crew had, but minor details such as Harry's dress robes (which were supposed to be a bottle green colour) were altered.

I was really disappointed though when they didn't show Winky and how they replaced Dobby with Neville in the gillyweed scene. and how arrogant Harry was portrayed as - when he was holding up the egg asking everyone if they wanted him to open it.. Very out of character...

I really hate the line "I love Magic.", when Harry first walks into the tent. It just seems so wrong for that moment and cheesy.

The one thing that drives me insane from GoF is the Imperius Curse effect. Imperio does not give a spider the ability to fly through the air and jump onto people's faces. Nor would said spider be able to struggle visibly when floating over a bucket of water. It gave a lot of people the wrong impression about what the curse actually does.

The thing that annoys me most about this film is that everyone is so angry and over dramatic. Dumbledore is always shouting, which is the worst thing, because it is not true to his character, and also many other characters have over dramatic delivery of lines (especially Hermione), and Harry's 'who wants me to open it?' is just awful :P I blame the director for this, and not the actors, since the over the top delivery seems to be a reccuring theme in this film, however it is not prevalent in the other Harry Potter films.

The thing that annoys me most about this film is that everyone is so angry and over dramatic. Dumbledore is always shouting, which is the worst thing, because it is not true to his character, and also many other characters have over dramatic delivery of lines (especially Hermione), and Harry's 'who wants me to open it?' is just awful :P I blame the director for this, and not the actors, since the over the top delivery seems to be a reccuring theme in this film, however it is not prevalent in the other Harry Potter films.

Agree! And I'll add Prof. Snape headsmacking the boys with a book. I can't imagine book Snape doing that. He always attacked with words, not physically. Granted it was humorous, just out of character IMO.