What happened to Dennis Creevey?

Jack5555
May 8th, 2009, 1:54 pm
Well, we all know what happened to Collin, but what was the fate of his brother Dennis? They were always so close and seemed more like friends than brothers. How would Dennis have reacted. Do you think it would help make him a better person?

I think it would. Collin dying would show him the world is not safe, and you have to be strong because anything can happen to you or your loved ones. Because of this death I think he has great potential in life.

Magi
May 9th, 2009, 12:57 am
He may have already been dead.

I wondered how Colin survived for as long as he did. My assumption was that the Ministry would round up all the Muggle-born students and send them off to Azkaban.

Asteria_Malfoy
May 9th, 2009, 5:56 am
I was wondering myself about Dennis. I really really hope he's not dead. Losing one son was hard enough on their parents, I hope Dennis survived and made a name for himself in the Wizarding World. :)

Maybe he also did something to honor his late brother's bravery and heroic death?

LyraLovegood
May 9th, 2009, 6:57 pm
Probably Dennis went out through Hogsmeade like he was supposed to during the Final Battle at Hogwarts, and stayed safe. I would guess that he didn't have the same level of hero-worship for Harry that Colin did, and that's why Colin snuck back and Dennis didn't.

I expect that he came back and finished his fifth through seventh years at Hogwarts after the war was over.

I also think that the relationship between Colin and Dennis was more the way brothers are supposed to be; there was more phileo and less sibling rivalry than what we see in some other brother relationships. The only pair of brothers in the HP series that had a better relationship, as far as I remember, were Fred and George; and of course twins have an advantage in that way.

hpfan795
May 9th, 2009, 7:01 pm
Dennis Creevy was to young to fight, Professor M. said so. He was moved to Hogsmade with alot of others.

Mrscole
May 9th, 2009, 8:02 pm
I may be wrong and my sister-in-law has my books so I can't look it up, but I don't recall it was even metioned that Dennis was there; so I'm persuming that he chose not to even attend Hogwarts that year considering the safety issue of being MUggleborn.

Mimosa
May 9th, 2009, 10:37 pm
Dennis Creevy was to young to fight, Professor M. said so. He was moved to Hogsmade with alot of others.
I think it was Colin that Prof. McGonagall shooed away, not Dennis. Though all she said was "Absolutely not you, Creevey!" without giving a first name.

I may be wrong and my sister-in-law has my books so I can't look it up, but I don't recall it was even metioned that Dennis was there; so I'm persuming that he chose not to even attend Hogwarts that year considering the safety issue of being MUggleborn.
No, I don't remember any mention of Dennis either, at least not by name.

I hope he survived and had a happy life and successful career, was a comfort to his parents. I didn't see any sibling rivalry between him and Colin either, but Colin being older must have just played the role of "big brother", protective of Dennis. If Dennis was at Hogwarts, Colin would have made sure he got to safety before he himself snuck back to fight his first and last battle. :upset:

dobby_rocks
May 19th, 2009, 8:25 am
No muggleborns or anyone who could not proof their wizarding blood (i.e. Dean Thomas) attended Hogwarts that year. Though many returned for the finale battle even people who had already graduated (i.e. Oliver Wood).

Colin had to have snuck back to Hogwarts he probably had his DA coin with him and someone called the DA members and so he bravely showed up. That said I would have thought that Dennis would have showed up too since he and Colin were always together and they were both in Gryffindor. I have to imagine that they were both in hiding together during most of DH.

I'd like think that Dennis went on and graduate hogwarts don't know what profession he would have gotten into. Colin was always into photography had he lived i could have seen him taking pictures for the Daily Prophet. I can see Dennis naming his first child after his brother - Colin if it was a boy and Colleen if it was a girl.

FleurduJardin
May 21st, 2009, 6:42 am
Colin had to have snuck back to Hogwarts he probably had his DA coin with him and someone called the DA members and so he bravely showed up.
I never really thought this through before, but was Colin in the DA? I honestly don't remember whether he was or not.

How he showed up at Hogwarts among the students when the Trio came back isn't clear, but he obviously was there, because McGonagall addressed him by name, and we all know that he died in the battle. There is no indication that Dennis was there with him. In fact there's no mention of Dennis at all in DH, as far as I recall.

I'd like think that Dennis went on and graduate hogwarts don't know what profession he would have gotten into. Colin was always into photography had he lived i could have seen him taking pictures for the Daily Prophet. I can see Dennis naming his first child after his brother - Colin if it was a boy and Colleen if it was a girl.
The names are a lovely thought and yes, I can see Dennis doing that.

I fervently hope that Dennis became a successful wizard after he graduated Hogwarts and that he kept his brother's memory alive, told his story to his children. I also hope his children all inherited the magical gene and all got their letters to attend Hogwarts. :)

NIrvanaFreak
May 22nd, 2009, 11:41 pm
I like to think that Dennis got away in time through Hogsmeade, but he may have died as well. If he did survive, I'm not so sure his parents would have let him finish school at Hogwarts if their son had just been killed there. I am sure that his brother's death had a deep and profound impact on Dennis, and that it did help shape him into the person he became.

mactheknife
May 23rd, 2009, 12:27 am
Maybe he changed his name to Nigel :p so he could stay and fight :lol:

hpfan795
May 23rd, 2009, 2:19 am
I believe, McGonacal said "Creeevy, leave, your too young to fight" In DH, and Colin died, Dennis left.

LyraLovegood
May 23rd, 2009, 7:00 pm
I believe, McGonacal said "Creeevy, leave, your too young to fight" In DH, and Colin died, Dennis left.

I always thought that in this quote McGonagall was talking to Colin Creevey, not to Dennis.

Although the biggest question is still: "Where were the Creevey brothers throughout the schoolyear?" They were Muggleborn, and therefore persecuted by the DE-controlled regime. What happened to underage Muggleborns who obediently signed the Registry? I haven't got a copy of DH, so I can't check the text for clues!

hpfan795
May 23rd, 2009, 7:50 pm
Room of requirement, with Neville

excusemydust
May 23rd, 2009, 8:09 pm
I don't believe that Rowling has given us any certain indication regarding the future of Dennis Creevey, although I think it's safe to assume that he goes on to lead a relatively average life, though certainly stronger because of the loss of his brother and, we could conjecture, closest friend. During Deathly Hallows, I don't believe we're told precisely what happened to the Creeveys: underage wizards/witches were also required to register with the Muggle-Born commission, but I would like to believe that they were sensible enough to stay hiding in the muggle world. If not, I will assume that one of the professors told them that they had no choice but to go into hiding, if they did return to Hogwarts.

dobby_rocks
May 24th, 2009, 11:25 pm
Yeah both Creevey’s were in the DA.

This is what JK said in a post DH web chat –

roseweasley: Why was colin creavey still a student at hogwarts when he was muggleborn surely he would have been locked up and interogated, not allowed back to school therefore, he shouldnt have died
J.K. Rowling: Colin wasn't a student. He sneaked back with the rest of the DA, along with Fred, George and the rest. He ought not to have stayed behind when McGonagall told him to leave, but alas - he did.


There is nothing mentioned about Dennis having been there. Now Jo does say the "rest of the DA" That would seem to imply that every member of the DA was in the battle.

Magi
May 25th, 2009, 1:11 am
So in the absence of any other information, it looks like Colin and Dennis turned up for the battle, then when McGonagall shooed away the under-aged ones, Dennis left but Colin didn't.

wizard_master
May 25th, 2009, 2:09 am
So in the absence of any other information, it looks like Colin and Dennis turned up for the battle, then when McGonagall shooed away the under-aged ones, Dennis left but Colin didn't.

That sounds more like it.
Dennis may have been to scared to return with his brother to join the battle and left with the others.

NIrvanaFreak
May 25th, 2009, 9:27 pm
That does make sense, Magi.

CirceRocks
June 11th, 2009, 4:10 pm
Both brothers were in the DA, it says so in the first book. So if all the DA returned for the battle, Dennis fought alongside Colin. I agree with hpfan795, he would have been in the room of requirement.

LyraLovegood
June 11th, 2009, 5:59 pm
If both brothers were there, why didn't McGonagall tell both of them to leave? It's possible that Colin was seventeen by then; it was near the end of third term, and most of the sixth-year students would have had their seventeenth birthdays during the school year, excepting of course the summer-born ones. Dennis would have been a fourth-year, and therefore no older than fifteen and inarguably underage. But JKR specified that it was Colin to whom McGonagall was speaking, implying that Colin was a summer-born sixteen year old sixth year.

The only thing that fits all the criteria is that Dennis & Colin both came in through the Hogshead when their DA coins summoned them; Dennis obediently left when the underage students were sent away; Colin tried to stay, but McGonagall sent him off because he was still sixteen; Dennis remained safe in Hogsmeade with the rest of the underage students; and Colin snuck back through to fight and was killed in the Battle.

So Dennis was safe, and survived the Battle, and surely mourned his brother. I expect he came back and did his fourth year over again, just as Hermione came back and did her seventh year. There must have been a lot of Muggle-borns at Hogwarts in the immediate aftermath of VWII who were doing their schooling a year late because of the blood supremacy decree.

ADoe4Lilly
June 11th, 2009, 7:21 pm
I agree with most here. I think that once everything was done and over and after a long grieving and recovery period not only did Dennis go back and finish but a lot of others did as well.

Magi
June 12th, 2009, 1:18 pm
There must have been a lot of Muggle-borns at Hogwarts in the immediate aftermath of VWII who were doing their schooling a year late because of the blood supremacy decree.

Yes, there must have been.

I wonder how the Muggle-born students survived (the ones who did survive). Surely, the Ministry of Voldemort would have tracked them down and rounded them up? It wouldn't have been hard to find them, and most of them would have been quite ignorant about the goings-on at the Ministry and Hogwarts.

dobby_rocks
June 14th, 2009, 3:44 am
Yes, there must have been.

I wonder how the Muggle-born students survived (the ones who did survive). Surely, the Ministry of Voldemort would have tracked them down and rounded them up? It wouldn't have been hard to find them, and most of them would have been quite ignorant about the goings-on at the Ministry and Hogwarts.

I wonder that too even more for the muggleborns who should have started their first year during DH. Yep I guess they may have had more people to dorms the following year. Interesting to think that the class of 2004 would have had no muggleborns in their year.

Magi
June 14th, 2009, 8:09 am
Why class of 2004? Didn't Voldemort's rule come at 1997-1998? Unless I misunderstood you.

I think Colin and Dennis would have been warned by the DA. The Order would have wanted to warn as many Muggleborn students as possible to flee, and the DA would have been ideal for the task. But the fate of Muggleborns with no DA or Order affiliations seem grim. I wonder if Snape tried to be more lenient toward Muggleborn students than was legal. It's possible that he intentionally did not follow up on Muggleborn absentees or made up excuses not do.

LyraLovegood
June 14th, 2009, 5:06 pm
I wonder why there isn't a thread about the Muggleborn Registry, and whether or not I should start one. I think it would belong in the Cloak rather than the Wand, though? I still don't fully understand the three forums Stone, Cloak and Wand; I thought Wand was for the future, but this bit about Dennis Creevey has been as much about the past. The aspect of where was Dennis during the Battle of Hogwarts has gotten more post than what happened to him after. That's Cloak material, innit?

Hes
June 14th, 2009, 7:57 pm
A thread about Muggleborn Registry, should go in the Cloak if it's not directly related to the Trio's experience with it (aka when Harry visits Umbridge office and the trail). So more a general discussion of it's implications, how it works etc.

The Wand is indeed about the future, but in this case some talk about Dennis' possible role in the Battle is fine. As long as post battle is discussed as well. Which is the case here.

LyraLovegood
June 14th, 2009, 8:23 pm
*bows in Hes' general direction*

Thank you, madam. I will ponder what the OP of a post on the Muggleborn Registry should look like, and perhaps submit one for Moderator approval in the near future.

*assumes Hes meant trial, not trail*

:)

dchristen03
June 14th, 2009, 10:56 pm
I think Colin's death made Dennis a better person. Honestly I think Dennis grew up to be a wonderful person, and he probably got married and had a few kids, with either a Muggle woman or a witch. But what I'm saying is that Colin's death probably hit Dennis like it hit Percy when Fred died, but it made Dennis stronger, and possibly more braver, and ready than ever to fight till his death for revenge.

Muggle_Magic
June 15th, 2009, 1:02 am
I think Colin's death made Dennis a better person. Honestly I think Dennis grew up to be a wonderful person, and he probably got married and had a few kids, with either a Muggle woman or a witch. But what I'm saying is that Colin's death probably hit Dennis like it hit Percy when Fred died, but it made Dennis stronger, and possibly more braver, and ready than ever to fight till his death for revenge.
That's a very perceptive, positive view of what happened to Dennis after Colin's death. I like the comparison with Percy and Fred, and how it made Dennis stronger. :tu:

LotusBlossom
June 18th, 2009, 7:49 pm
This may sound silly, but I like to think that Dennis got interested in photography and kind of picked up where his brother left off. He returned to Hogwarts with Collin's camera, graduated, and did something in the area of photography.