Way Ahead for Deathly Hallows Movie(s) [Archive] - Page 11

Noldus

December 16th, 2009, 8:26 pm

YOU GUYS ARE NOT GONNA BELIEVE THIS!

A friend of my uncle in Oxford found these thrown-away scriptpages on the street!! Do you believe this? ON THE STREET! My uncle scanned them (sorry for the bad quality) and emailed them to me (I'm a moviefreak, so he thought I would find these interesting).

And guess what? I am serious: some of the pages from Flaw in the Plan (with two missing pages)

It's up to you if you find these real enough (I think there will be pretty much people who're gonna think these are fake, because of dream_silently and the script-faker guy from harrypotterforum.com) But I know they're real, they must be.

I uploaded them with imageshack, and tomorrow I'm gonna decode them and try to put them in a PDF file.

Page 138 (http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/6576/img006y.jpg)
Page 139 (http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/5247/img007dc.jpg)
Page 140 (http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/3184/img008xx.jpg)
Page 141 (http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/9060/img009l.jpg)
Page 142 (http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/2053/img010li.jpg)
Page 143 (http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3964/img011db.jpg)
Page 146 (http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/2246/img012t.jpg)
Page 147 (http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/3302/img013c.jpg)

BTW, the sentences of Bellatrix are marked yellow, looks like Helena's been inaccurate with her script.

Nice try :p Perhaps you wrote it yourself?

lcbaseball22

December 16th, 2009, 8:43 pm

boushh

December 16th, 2009, 9:08 pm

There are way too many typos and misspellings for this to be real I think... and I've only just skimmed the script so far... Plus if this is a revision wouldn't it be a colored page and not easy to copy? This looks like it was on white paper.

MasterOfDeath

December 16th, 2009, 9:09 pm

This is as real as the horcrux Harry and Dumbledore find in the cave. ;)

boushh

December 16th, 2009, 9:13 pm

I just read it. I don't think it's real. Even the markings seem silly. I hope it isn't real too because I don't think it's good and it's leaving out some stuff that I think is important.

lcbaseball22

December 16th, 2009, 9:15 pm

I think this is fake too, if it was real Mugglenet and WB would be all over this.

Actually, not true. None of the fan sites have acknowleged leaked script in the past (I even have an email from 'em somewhere stating they couldn't post about the scripts for HBP), so I don't expect any different for DH. Then again, if they've already had their set visits I guess they don't have to worry any more about appeasing WB. Also, I wonder if this dude's uncle is just pulling his leg and he doesn't realize... :whistle:

Noldus

December 16th, 2009, 9:27 pm

Oh Jesus, this is almost worse than the entire script of New Moon I heard was found tossed in a garbage can (that WAS garbage though) :lol:

I'm not sure whether to believe it or not. I haven't read any yet...but I would hope one of our own members isn't have some fun now... :relax:

Especially since this is the guy that started the list for DH, I'd like to be able to believe him :whistle: Still, I didn't think WB was this careless.

Then again, it's been considered that the script leaked in the past was either intential or ignored cause it was free publicity... :hmm:

Times like these, dark times, they can do funny things to people.They can tear us apart.The end of an era is getting closer so we better be prepared for people that want attention by simple sending out misleading information. Don't trust anyone :scared:
I read in a post written by that guy, whose uncle had found the script on the street (very believable story :eyebrows:), that he didn't want the entire castle to blow up, but rather just smash some windows. Accidently this is how it was in the script and it was due to Voldemort's anger. And why was the words "Defenders of Hogwarts" repeated so much in the script? By pure coincidence that guy had written the "defenders of Hogwarts" in one of his posts. The screenplay had some spellings- and grammar errors, right? What if it's written by a non-native person?

KJRiddle

December 16th, 2009, 9:50 pm

Then, I've been fooled sooo hardly, I really thought this script was real. It looked so real, I really was like :drool:

Well, then, I'm now going to sleep ... very disappointed :(

lcbaseball22

December 16th, 2009, 9:53 pm

Times like these, dark times, they can do funny things to people.They can tear us apart.The end of an era is getting closer so we better be prepared for people that want attention by simple sending out misleading information. Don't trust anyone :scared:
I read in a post written by that guy, whose uncle had found the script on the street (very believable story :eyebrows:), that he didn't want the entire castle to blow up, but rather just smash some windows. Accidently this is how it was in the script and it was due to Voldemort's anger. And why was the words "Defenders of Hogwarts" repeated so much in the script? By pure coincidence I suppose that guy had written the "defenders of Hogwarts" in one of his posts. The screenplay had some grammar errors, right? What if it's written by a non-native person?

Hmm, I still haven't read it but those are good points if that's the case. And I have seen some script he's written in another thread. :hmm:

This is from a message on my profile back in March...this match? :lol:

Well, you're right: they can't die, but that would be something very clever from Voldemort! I already see it:

It's dark as hell and the only light is comming from the lightened wands of the defenders of Hogwarts and the lights of the castle. The walls are manned by students and on the towers we see short shots of Neville, Sprout and some students ... Flitwick and some of his students on the towers and walls, waiting in complete silent. We see other students, Lupin, McGonnagol and Kingsley waiting at the courtyard and covered bridge with their wands drawed and their shocked eyes fixed on the Forbidden Forest.
Then the camera focusses on the Forbidden Forest where the first sounds are heard and some of the trees are seen taken down by something big what's trying to smash it's way through the woods. The defenders look at each other shocked and frightened to death and then they see vage figures coming out of the dark, slowly and zombie-walking Inferi coming towards the bridge and then two of the front trees are unrooted and a huge Giant appears, roaring.
Then like a thousand of masked Death Eater walk towards them without saying something but with their wands drawed and they walk on a resolute and scary way to the bridge.
We see Remus Lupin in the front (with McGonnagol and Kingsley on his side) and tell everyone to wait, while the first Inferi enter the bridge and when the first Inferi is close to them, he screams and shoots the first spell on it. It is blowed away and lands between the other Inferi, but stands up and continues while the rest of the Defenders start to throw all kinds of spells at everyone who enters the courtyard!
Hundreds of Acromantula's are seen sneaking out of the woods, while the first Death Eaters interfere the battle. Death Eaters on brooms shoot out of the forest towards the walls and towers, where the Defenders start their fight.

Then the scene cuts to Harry

When the battle continues at dawn, we see the first 'shot' coming from the Centauri at the other side of the bridge and then the whole sky turns black of arrows, but the most of the are hold off by Shield-Charms of the Death Eaters (most of them unmasked). We see all the remaining defenders driven back into the castle by the Death Eaters (but the Inferi are nowwhere to be seen)!! Death Acromantula are lying on their backs everywhere and are being runned over. Outside the Death Eaters who want to get into the castle are attackted by Buckbeak and some Thestral who fly out of the Forbidden Forest shrieking.
But inside the castle, in the Entrance Hall, Staircase and Great Hall the camera follows some important battles (while the House Elves appear, with Kreacher in front and armed with knives and cleavers xD):
Kingsley, McGonnagol and Slughorn fighting Voldemort in the Great Hall (centre), it's very spectacular! It cuts to Luna and Ginny fighting Bellatrix (screaming) and then the camera goes to the Grand Staircase were a mix of former students and older students push Death Eaters over the edge of the stairs by throwing spells at them.

This is pretty much what I would like to see xD Especially the beginning of the war in silence and insercurity about what they will face and what will come out of the woods!

JR637

December 16th, 2009, 9:57 pm

Another reason I thought of to show as false...The jump from 143 to 146.

There is dialogue on 143 and we are still having the same conversation on 146 so there is 3 pages of something missing but what could possibly happen for those 3 pages while Harry and LV are in mid-taunt whith everyone else so scared they can't even move? I think these are fake and the page jump was added as an after thought to show authentisity?

-JR

Noldus

December 16th, 2009, 10:00 pm

Here is the post I am talking about:

Partly agree on that. I disagree on the two things:
- The fact that the whole Great Hall is destroyed, it would be unrecognizable, and I think the whole hall has something ... enchanting at that particular moment in the movie. Because the Defenders of Hogwarts are driven into the castle by the Death Eaters and Voldemort, it should feel as a Last Hiding Place, so it has to be (partly) complete. Walls smashed, windows broken, ruins, etc. is all right, though!
- The whole spell-thing. It would look sooooo bad. It would make Harry look like a superhero, but he would never be able to preform the magic Dumbledore did, and Voldemort and Dumbledore are quite of the same 'level'. I agree that the whole confrontation must feel ultimate and intense. That can be perfectly achieved when they let Voldemort being frustration and angry, which causes windows to break and the ceiling to thunder.

I really agree this scene has to be strong, really, really strong. This is the end of Harry's journey, this is the end of his 7 year journey of learning magic (he's learned quite a lot).

decarus

December 16th, 2009, 10:10 pm

I have a question since they are filming both films at once does that change the scene numbers in anyway?

Remember that callsheet from filming in Swinley Forest that the child found. It said that the scene with greyback and scabior questioning the trio who give false names was scene 159. Since they are filming all at once would the separate films have separate scene numbers? I guess it is possible, but i am unsure because they act like the location of the split is not finalized.

This scene 159 could still be in Part 1 with them cutting as the arrive at Malfoy Manor instead of right as the trio are caught by the snatchers. If you don't want to see a callsheet that has some spoilers, don't look.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/scenes.jpg

PS. The reason i am asking is because on the script bits the scenes are like 140s.

Noldus

December 16th, 2009, 10:32 pm

Then, I've been fooled sooo hardly, I really thought this script was real. It looked so real, I really was like :drool:

Well, then, I'm now going to sleep ... very disappointed :(

Or you unsuccessfully tried to fool us:relax: ...

JR637

December 16th, 2009, 10:46 pm

Or you unsuccessfully tried to fool us:relax: ...

I am going to have to agree with this statement. It seems that your uncle finding it and you posting it here is a little far fetched. I'm sorry but I'm a skeptic.

-JR

lcbaseball22

December 16th, 2009, 11:14 pm

Or you unsuccessfully tried to fool us:relax: ...

Having read it now I agree. It's pretty good other than all the typos, such as the multiple "JEDS of light" :lol: Also as was pointed out ealier, Kloves is an American and I don't think he would have spelled it centre. Sigh, it seems that one of our own has turned against us, guys :sigh:

And I thought the jerks who did this sort of thing just had some sort of vendetta against HP fans...perhaps I was wrong :relax:

C4RL

December 17th, 2009, 9:17 am

Honeyducks

December 17th, 2009, 12:37 pm

Such an obvious fake... the scene where Voldy throws energy at harry who uses a shield charm to block it, then Voldy pulls the energy back into a ball which then explodes...

...isn't that what happened in the ministry battle in OotP between voldy and dumbledore???

my thoughts exactly!!!
I hope they are fake, I didnt really like them... but I hope we can get the real script soon!!..

3 full days without dream_silently posting something.. I might go crazy.. he must working really hard at the DH set :)

danno

December 17th, 2009, 1:07 pm

Who is this dream_silently fellow I've heard so much about?

JR637

December 17th, 2009, 3:10 pm

Who is this dream_silently fellow I've heard so much about?

He is supposedly a worker at the art department who is posting the plot of the movies and how the scenes will be done. If you search like 5 or 6 pages back at least, someone posted a who bunch of his posts from whatever site it is that he posts on.

-JR

Morgoth

December 17th, 2009, 7:07 pm

MasterOfDeath

December 17th, 2009, 7:51 pm

SwedishSkinJer

December 17th, 2009, 7:54 pm

MasterOfDeath

December 17th, 2009, 7:58 pm

I think that the anticipation for the last two movies will understandably be higher than HBP. After all, these are the final films, and it won't be long until DH Part II is released. *sigh* It will be a sad day when everything wraps completely on the set.

Yeah, definitely. While the wait for HBP was slow and long and extremely drawn out (thanks to the legendary delay! ;)), I think the wait for DH (esp. after the new year arrives) will go lightning speed and the films will be out before we know it. :lol: It is going to be a very bittersweet day when DH2 comes out...I suspect I'll be on the forums a lot that summer trying to savor every moment as much as I can before it's all over.

SwedishSkinJer

December 17th, 2009, 8:00 pm

Unless there's another legendary delay for the last two movies. Ha.

katana

December 17th, 2009, 8:24 pm

Unless there's another legendary delay for the last two movies. Ha.

Noooooooo! I so hope that this does not happen again!

I have a feeling I'll be on the forums a lot more than I usually am over the next year too. This is all just too much fun!
And DH is going to have a lot to talk about.

Now......I'm going to go read the fake scripts.
:lol:

SwedishSkinJer

December 17th, 2009, 8:27 pm

As much as I don't want a delay for either of DH's two parts, I have to admit that seeing the dramatic fan reactions after HBP was pushed back provided hours of laughs. Some people went far beyond expressing disappointment.

SwedishSkinJer

December 17th, 2009, 8:37 pm

I would be more conserned if fans hadn't react to the delay :relax: It's better with engaged fans than careless fans, IMO.

Oh, I know. It's just that some incredibly dramatic reactions made the delay a bit more tolerable.

MasterOfDeath

December 17th, 2009, 8:47 pm

Hey, don't mock us! I probably had one of the most dramatic reactions. :lol: It was HORRIBLE. For many of us, waiting for that movie was our life! :p

Noldus

December 17th, 2009, 8:48 pm

Oh, I know. It's just that some incredibly dramatic reactions made the delay a bit more tolerable.

True :lol: I hope the wait for Deathly Hallows will feel shorter.
With OotP and HBP it felt as though they held back something so it will be great to finally get long-drawn wizard battles and see how they ties up all the unresolved things from the other films into the plot without getting confusing. i can't wait to see how they handle it.
At the same time I don't want it all to end. It will be so sad :(

SwedishSkinJer

December 17th, 2009, 8:55 pm

MasterOfDeath

December 17th, 2009, 8:57 pm

I'm expecting DH2 to be a 2 and half hour epic climax. :lol:

SwedishSkinJer

December 17th, 2009, 9:01 pm

lcbaseball22

December 17th, 2009, 9:05 pm

Yup. With two films for Deathly Hallows, I'm confident that they will be able to tie up loose ends from the previous movies. The president of Warner Brothers seemed to indicate that Part II would only be around an hour and a half (his exact quote was similar to "an extra hour and a half to celebrate the series"), but other reports have said that Part II will be around two hours. Hopefully, it *is* roughly two hours extra.

All this meant is that they will have an extra hour and half more than the like 3 hours max they would have been alloted if trying to cram it into one film. So about 4.5 hrs. total or 2 hours and 15 minutes for each film. (same length as PoA and OotP) Also, there was an interview with Heyman who was asked if the films would be shorter than usual (meaning under 2 hours) and his response was a very definite NO! :)

Noldus

December 17th, 2009, 9:08 pm

Both parts of Deathly Hallows should be visually stunning, too. Eduardo Serra, the new cinematographer for the last two parts, has been nominated for an Academy Award twice. I was watching Blood Diamond last evening, and he made it an incredibly gorgeous movie.

:agree: I think the visual style for DH 1 will be similar to Blood Diamond. They have done a pretty good job of choosing cinematographers for the HP films.

SwedishSkinJer

December 17th, 2009, 9:13 pm

lcbaseball22

December 17th, 2009, 9:21 pm

Here's that other article I referred to, btw- http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=22200

We just thought how are we going to approach this? Is this going to be a four and a half hour film? That’s probably what it would have been. Would our audience really embrace that? In some way, I think they might. But I think the younger ones would have drifted. There’s always been difficulty making sure that the ones that are two hours, two and a half hours long – making sure that those are the right length. I think by having two films that are two and a half hours – although we’re not sure of the length – then it will be a richer experience.

I guess Heyman actually said 2.5 hrs...so it could be 5 hrs total, but again they aren't sure 'til the film is pieced together. And I never for an instant thought the studio would approve of ONE 4.5 hr film (which I would have preferred to be honest :sigh:) so I see this as the next best :)

And here's the part I mentioned in the last post-

So these films will be the same length as the ones that came before? We won’t see two films that clock in under two hours?

No. The idea is to get everything people want in there. I’m sure there’ll be parts that don’t make it, which we won’t know until the script is written. But that is the idea.

decarus

December 18th, 2009, 2:46 am

I have been wondering if they will show the flash of Harry's parents getting killed or if they will show Ron when he scuffles with the snatchers after leaving Harry and Hermione. I wonder if the film is going to have that same sort of loneliness that was in the book. We already know they have a radio and that they listened to it throughout the camping.

I just keep trying to order all of the scenes we have seen that are 'added scenes' and it seems like there is going to be more action while they are camping as if the trio are in real danger. The other snatcher scene seems before Ron leaves and the photos of the burnt out trailers are probably from before Ron leaves. It just makes me wonder how this is all going to work out in the film and really we are just getting started.

JR637

December 18th, 2009, 3:25 am

Yeah. My favorite cinematographers have been for Order of the Phoenix and Half-Blood Prince.

I'm still in love with the first eight minutes of Phoenix, since the scene with Harry/Dudley had some gorgeous imagery, particularly when we see them running and it shifts to a hand-held style.

I agree. I have a feeling that DH1 will have the same "feel" as these opening minutes of OotP. I think there will be a lot of running and hand-held camera style shooting. Not to the extreme of Blair Witch, but I think it will be used quite a bit.

-JR

decarus

December 18th, 2009, 5:15 am

I have been rereading (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/7/1/david-yates-talks-trio-and-fiendfyre-scene-deathly-hallows-part-one-vs-part-two) some old updates and i found an interview with yates and he discusses the fiendfyre scene and he says that they are filming it tomorrow where harry, ron, and hermione are chased by fiendfyre. I think that the dream_silently said that only ginny and harry are in this scene on the good side.

MasterOfDeath

December 18th, 2009, 5:18 am

decarus

December 18th, 2009, 5:35 am

lcbaseball22

December 18th, 2009, 5:42 am

I can't find it in all those pages of dream_silently stuff. I see where he mentions that there aren't a lot of scenes with Ginny and Harry except in the fiendfyre scene where they try to save each other. He doesn't mention whether or not Ron and Hermione are there. Yates may not have mentioned that Ginny was there because it would be a change. I will look again tomorrow.

Here it is-

The Ravenclaw plot is changed. Much changed. No we don't see Bloody Baron. This is one of the parts of the script that seems to change every time. Right now, the Grey Lady is not in the film. Harry learns that Voldemort's hidden the final Horcrux in Hogwarts, Hermione and Luna tell him about the Diadem being Ravenclaw's ancient object and Ginny remembers having hidden the HBP book next to something that seemed like a diadem. Ginny and Harry go to check, Draco,Goyle and Blaise attack, Harry realises this IS the Diadem and the Fiendfyre scene occurs.

Hmm, that does seem to be a contradiction with what Yates said... :hmm:

MoodysMagicEye

December 18th, 2009, 9:29 am

I hope Ginny won't be going with Harry to the ROR again. I kind off like the Harry, Ron and Hermione vs Malfoy, Crabbe (or Blaise Zabini as it would be) and Goyle scenario. Ginny isn't necessarily needed to go there, because the Diaden just needs to be in the room not specifically next to the book. So Harry could potentially have seen (similarly to the book) even if we didn't.

Some more of HBP cast returning for DH : http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/pansy-parkinson-romilda-vane-leanne-actresses-reprise-roles-deathly-hallows-69940/
Pansy Parkinson, Romilda Vane & Leanne actresses reprise roles for Deathly Hallows.

I think you could possible add Katie Bell's as likely coming back as well. I hope we soon gets some confirmation of returning minor character a little further back than the previous film, hopefully they haven't been forgotten.

Fury

December 18th, 2009, 11:31 am

Well, it sorta makes sense... Harry and Ginny could go find the Diadem while Ron and Hermione go down to the Chamber of Secrets.

I really liked Katie Bell, Leanne and Pansy's actresses in Half-Blood Prince so it will be great to see them back in Deathly Hallows.

SwedishSkinJer

December 18th, 2009, 11:37 am

I kind of like altering the Fiendfyre scene to make it so that Ginny is the only one accompanying Harry as Ron and Hermione split up to search the Chamber of Secrets. Harry and Ginny are both capable flyers/duelists, and then sharing a romantic scene after escaping from the Room of Requirement would be a nice addition. Plus, Harry closes his eyes in the HBP movie, so Ginny could remember hiding the book near a diadem.

Pearl_Took

December 18th, 2009, 11:55 am

If that is true, it's a very nice way to amp up Ginny's role in DH. :)

SwedishSkinJer

December 18th, 2009, 12:04 pm

Exactly. It could possibly be a terrific Ginny/Harry moment, and it's not that far-fetched.

decarus

December 18th, 2009, 1:00 pm

I completely agree that it would have been a good way to have a Harry/Ginny moment while Ron and Hermione were having 'the kiss' in the Chamber of Secrets. Especially since the Harry/Ginny relationship wasn't formed as well as it could have been in previous films and was, in my opinion, pretty cheesy at moments in HBP. Though that isn't all their faults because they didn't know that Harry and Ginny were going to be together in the end.

Here it is-
The Ravenclaw plot is changed. Much changed. No we don't see Bloody Baron. This is one of the parts of the script that seems to change every time. Right now, the Grey Lady is not in the film. Harry learns that Voldemort's hidden the final Horcrux in Hogwarts, Hermione and Luna tell him about the Diadem being Ravenclaw's ancient object and Ginny remembers having hidden the HBP book next to something that seemed like a diadem. Ginny and Harry go to check, Draco,Goyle and Blaise attack, Harry realises this IS the Diadem and the Fiendfyre scene occurs.
Thanks for finding this lcbaseball. This just seems to contradict what Yates said in the article (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/7/1/david-yates-talks-trio-and-fiendfyre-scene-deathly-hallows-part-one-vs-part-two) in July 2009:
Tomorrow we're shooting the scene in the Room of Requirement, where Harry, Ron, and Hermione are being chased by Fiendfyre and it's a very cool scene.
This quote by Yates says two things: one that they have already shot the Fiendfyre scene, so why would they still be changing that part of the script and two Yates says that Harry, Ron, and Hermione are in the scene and not just Harry and Ginny.

Yates didn't give a lot of information there, but that seems to be a contradiction to me.

I guess it is possible that they changed this scene or did a reshoot, but i think they are on a really tight schedule, so i am not sure if that makes sense. I would think they would do all the scenes for one set and then move on. I know Tom Felton also discussed some of the stunts on a broom on his twitter which we have assumed were for the Fiendfyre scene, so i think we know that they filmed that scene already.

lcbaseball22

December 18th, 2009, 1:08 pm

Thanks for finding this icbaseball. This just seems to contradict what Yates said in the article (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/7/1/david-yates-talks-trio-and-fiendfyre-scene-deathly-hallows-part-one-vs-part-two):

This quote by Yates says two things: one that they have already shot the Fiendfyre scene, so why would they still be changing that part of the script and two Yates says that Harry, Ron, and Hermione are in the scene and not just Harry and Ginny.

Yates didn't give a lot of information there, but that seems to be a contradiction to me.

It's LC ;) I know I should have capitalized it...everyone makes the mistake of thinking it's an i :lol: Anyways, I agree...it does seem to contradict. Well, I've asked him over there to clarify, so I'm waiting to see if he tries to talk his way out of it or backtrack or what. :whistle:

Then again, perhaps it's a mis-understanding and he's being honest... :)

decarus

December 18th, 2009, 1:13 pm

Anyways, I agree...it does seem to contradict. Well, I've asked him over there to clarify, so I'm waiting to see if he tries to talk his way out of it or backtrack or what. :whistle:

Then again, perhaps it's a mis-understanding and he's being honest... :)
It's an 'L'? Sorry about that. I fixed it in my original post.

Yates does say very little there, so i will still wait and hear what dream_silently has to say.

SwedishSkinJer

December 18th, 2009, 1:25 pm

That's a shame.

If there's one change from the book that I wouldn't mind in a major scene, it would be making it so that only Harry and Ginny participate in the Fiendfyre section. It makes sense, and they could easily add a romantic moment at the end.

snugglepot

December 19th, 2009, 1:09 am

Quote

Though that isn't all their faults because they didn't know that Harry and Ginny were going to be together in the end.

OotP was made after HBP came out during which Harry and Ginny came together and of course there was that famous interview where Jo said that everyone now knew it was R/Hr and H/G.
That is why I can't understand why they neglected Ginny's characterisation and dropped all her major scenes with Harry for the OotP, movie.
They did know who would end up with who, yet chose instead to focus on Loony Lovegood and have Harry in bonding scenes with her, instead of the girl he would eventually marry.
They have no excuse for ruining the H/G relationship in HBP because DH was out and they knew H/G would be married at the end. Yet, they still cut that beautiful kiss, focused on Ron/Lavender and gave Harry bonding scenes with Hermione!
So where does that leave us for DH? Have we heard anything about Harry's and Ginny's big birthday kiss? Of course not, as it's most likely been cut, so they can concentrate on that perverted Horcrux H/Hr kiss!
As a Harry/Ginny shipper I really hate Steve Kloves writing, and the Director for the way they have ruined my favourite couple in the movies.

decarus

December 19th, 2009, 1:16 am

In an interview (http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/videos-dan-radcliffe-talks-harry-ginnys-deathly-hallows-kiss-69511/) with Daniel Radcliffe (Harry Potter) he mentions filming a kiss scene between Harry and Ginny in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows:
It was kind of odd to do that with someone I've known since they were eight, but this time around much more relaxed, on Seven, we've done another kissing scene on Seven, totally fine with that now because I think it's because I know Bonnie slightly better now.

This could be the kiss on Harry's birthday or it is possible there is an added kiss at the end of the film between Harry and Ginny. A kiss has been mentioned though and is happening. I completely understand your frustration because they could have done a much better job in HBP with the Harry/Ginny storyline.

It is also possible that riddleHermione and riddleHarry don't kiss because they filmed their scenes separately, but we really don't know enough about that to actually speculate.

phoenix88

December 19th, 2009, 2:15 am

It's an 'L'? Sorry about that. I fixed it in my original post.

Yates does say very little there, so i will still wait and hear what dream_silently has to say.

Hmm.. does that mean dream silently is a fake or do you think they switched it after that yates interview to have ginny in the ror with the fiendfyre instead of ron and hermione?

Either way, I agree that even though I usually like things to stay true to the book, I wouldn't mind having ginny with harry in this scene since she is barely in DH to begin with. I was never a ginny/harry shipper, but I can understand why fans of that relationship would feel shortchanged after HBP. Ginny should definitely get more screen time in DH to make the fact the 2 end up together more believable.

CandyCane23049

December 19th, 2009, 2:29 am

Wonder how many pages this is going to be, when the movie comes out? :)

Fury

December 19th, 2009, 2:35 am

Wonder how many pages this is going to be, when the movie comes out? :)

The mods will probably put this into a version 2 sometime soon ;)

I haven't taken too much of an interest in this dream_silently guy. I don't trust people like that too much. Some of the stuff he says is so promising though.

I have a feeling they'll probably have more than one Harry/Ginny kiss. Birthday kiss (Part 1), and somewhere in the second half near the end of the movie. It would sure make up for that kiss in HBP. I've seen HBP 4 times now and that kiss just erks me every time heh. I love most of the stuff between them in HBP (even if it is a tad awkward sometimes), but that kiss was too short to be adored.

SwedishSkinJer

December 19th, 2009, 2:48 am

Fury

December 19th, 2009, 2:54 am

For an adaptation, I felt that the HBP movie handled the Ginny/Harry relationship well. I loved the awkward moments for their genuine reflection of teenage romance, and they cleverly added in some new scenes, such as Ginny's "SHUT IT!" for Harry. Having Ginny run after Harry to engage the Death Eaters in combat was a nice nod to their tough relationship, as well. In the deleted scenes on the DVD, there's also a Common Room scene in which we see Ginny appear to stare at Harry purposefully from the fireplace.

Well, it definitely convinced my mother, who only watches the movies and hasn't read the books. At the Burrow, she was practically yelling at Harry to kiss Ginny :lol:.

So yeah, I think they handled it well, and I think they'll continue doing it well in DH.

decarus

December 19th, 2009, 3:33 am

Hmm.. does that mean dream silently is a fake or do you think they switched it after that yates interview to have ginny in the ror with the fiendfyre instead of ron and hermione?

I think it is clearly a contradiction between the two. It is possible that they changed it. I think that unlikely because they filmed the Fiendfyre scene like six months ago, but i guess it is possible. That also seems to be a big change to decide to change after they have done all the filming. They may have decided that they needed more Ginny and re shot the scene. That may just be wishful thinking though.

danno

December 19th, 2009, 4:07 am

He is supposedly a worker at the art department who is posting the plot of the movies and how the scenes will be done. If you search like 5 or 6 pages back at least, someone posted a who bunch of his posts from whatever site it is that he posts on.

-JR

Thanks! :) I actually don't want the movie to be spoiled (assuming it's real), but it is tempting to read back...

SwedishSkinJer

December 19th, 2009, 4:16 am

lcbaseball22

December 19th, 2009, 5:14 am

But why would someone who supposedly has inside information due to a position in the crew leak such private details from the script? Isn't that a pretty decent way to get yourself dismissed from the job?

Apparently not, considering this guy Phoenix123 leaked legit scripts for BOTH OotP and HBP...but has been hired back for DH (and plans to leak more script once filming finishes) As has been speculated before, I think WB surely has to know about this activity (and probably could figure out who it is if they really wanted to ;)) but they likely don't really care cause it's simply free publicity for them. Heck, it's also been speculated they leak stuff intentially and just put up a front pretending to get all pissy and remove leaked material from Youtube and such

I really think it's just part of the excitement and the sort of games we/they playing. I mean isn't it kinda fun playing cat and mouse trying to view things before they are removed? :lol: :whistle: It wouldn't be much of a challenge anymore if WB didn't attempt to stop it now, would it? :p

MasterOfDeath

December 19th, 2009, 5:27 am

You know, it IS more exciting to read about something knowing it was leaked. :lol: There's that feeling of excitement and rebellion. :p

clockstopper

December 19th, 2009, 7:27 pm

CandyCane23049

December 19th, 2009, 11:57 pm

sorry if i offend some one here but maybe they cut ginnys scenes so much couse they didnt think bonnie was such a good actress to do them, shes played her part well in past movies ( the few lines shes haved) but in HBP there are some scenes that i think she didnt do good or i wasnt convince with her acting so maybe if they had choose to focus more in the h/g relantionship those scenes wouldnt have been very good

Maybe I'm not a good judgement on acting, but Bonnie did fine to me. I can't remember the last time I was disappointed with the acting of the kids. To teach it's own.

I disagree with your statement, I just feel that they didn't know she was going to play an intricate part in the latter part of the series. If that's the case. I don't think she would be getting more parts in Deathly Hallows like some others think she will, i.e finding the diadem.

Jack5555

December 20th, 2009, 4:51 am

Maybe I'm not a good judgement on acting, but Bonnie did fine to me. I can't remember the last time I was disappointed with the acting of the kids. To teach it's own.

I disagree with your statement, I just feel that they didn't know she was going to play an intricate part in the latter part of the series. If that's the case. I don't think she would be getting more parts in Deathly Hallows like some others think she will, i.e finding the diadem.
I personally think they did an alright job of setting up the H/G relationship. If you notice, I think it is in GoF and OotP, Ginny gives a look when she sees Harry eying Cho. I think that shows her love for him. The only thing I don't like is how in HBP she never really breaks up with Dean. When she and Harry kiss, Ginny is kind of done for the movie. I would have liked to see a little more. Also, the kiss was lame :|.

decarus

December 20th, 2009, 5:23 am

For me the worst Harry/Ginny scenes where the two in the burrow during Christmas. The scene where she feeds him the pie is so awkward and cheesy. Who does that? Also, the scene where she is in her robe with wet hair and ties his shoe was also very weird and had a lot of sexual connotation to it. I saw the film more then once and people would always be yelling out things at that moment.

I actually think the kiss scene in and of itself has really grown on me, but the actual kiss between the two of them could have been longer.

Their whole relationship is so different in the films because in the book it was like they became friends over the summer before sixth year and they actually had conversations. In the films, i think they are trying so hard to make them seem romantic when they are barely friends, that it is just so awkward.

PS. I agree with you that they did a good job having Ginny give glances at the right moments in OotP. I also really liked how she was a very powerful witch that Harry might have noticed. I think they should have continued on that and they did a little bit with having her follow Harry at the burrow scene. I just hope they show Ginny fighting in DH.

mrfutterman

December 20th, 2009, 6:26 pm

For me the worst Harry/Ginny scenes where the two in the burrow during Christmas. The scene where she feeds him the pie is so awkward and cheesy.

Most young lovers are awkward. A phoney sophistication would have been ridiculous.

Their whole relationship is so different in the films because in the book it was like they became friends over the summer before sixth year and they actually had conversations. In the films, i think they are trying so hard to make them seem romantic when they are barely friends, that it is just so awkward.

Most young lovers are romantic without having been friends first. And are often awkward. I understand that you don't like it because it isn't "like the book", but I don't see how that was a problem in the film, as a film.

LordThingy

December 20th, 2009, 8:56 pm

Most young lovers are awkward. A phoney sophistication would have been ridiculous.

Most young lovers are romantic without having been friends first. And are often awkward. I understand that you don't like it because it isn't "like the book", but I don't see how that was a problem in the film, as a film.

I agree, the film represented how most relationships start out - really, extremely awkward. i found those moments hilarious because they were so true. i think they modernized the H/G relationship to connect with teenagers watching the movies so that they could relate.

decarus

December 21st, 2009, 12:18 am

It isn't because it is not like the book that i don't like it. It is because Ginny is too forward in those moments. Who acts like that? Who feeds a pie to a boy? I think that it is phony sophistication. I agree that awkwardness is part of young romance, but it is true awkwardness of like weird glances and not knowing what to say. That scene was just something that no one would ever do, in my opinion.

I think they did a much better job in OotP with Ginny looking at Harry when he is looking at Cho and the look on her face when Hermione says 'she couldn't take her eyes off you' talking about Cho was great.

I think they could have had a better Ginny scene in HBP. They could have had her give him a Christmas present or something along with some very awkward dialogue and i would have enjoyed that. I just think that the pie eating was just weird.

I actually am very forgiving of changes, but those scenes just didn't seem real to me. A scene always has to be something that a character would do and they have to have a reason for doing it.

Regardless, the strangeness of the Harry/Ginny relationship in HBP is something that they will have to work on a little in DH for it to make sense that Harry would want to be with her forever. If they just have some awkward moments and a good kiss on his birthday i think that will go a long way.

I actually think that HBP would have been a better film if the felt like they could leave out the half-blood prince plot, but i could understand why they would think they can't do that.

CandyCane23049

December 21st, 2009, 1:38 am

I love love all intercation between Harry and Ginny. I even love the kiss and thought it was very sweet. Like someone mentioned above, I don't like the fact she never really broke up with Dean either.

MoodysMagicEye

December 21st, 2009, 8:57 am

Pearl_Took

December 21st, 2009, 10:34 am

I felt that, I sort of blame it on the inadequate (in my opinion) use of her in previous movies,

The previous movies have (rightly) concentrated on the Trio. Ginny in the book series doesn't exactly have a significant role until HBP, when it becomes obvious she is meant to be Harry's 'perfect' girl.

in HBP she almost seemed forced on us.

I tend to feel that way about Book Ginny in HBP, actually. :lol:

Hopefully it balance out alright in DH

Whatever one thinks of how the film-makers handled Harry/Ginny in HBP, the main thing is that the film has established they are a couple. So the film has done its job. :tu:

I think they could nicely amp up Ginny's role in DH, and it sounds like they might be doing that, i.e. by having her accompany Harry to the Room of Requirement to get the tiara or whatever.

lcbaseball22

December 21st, 2009, 10:46 am

Whatever one thinks of how the film-makers handled Harry/Ginny in HBP, the main thing is that the film has established they are a couple. So the film has done its job. :tu:

It did? :huh:

Hmm, what I saw looked like Harry basically rejecting Ginny's advances. They're never shown as a couple in HBP. This needs fixing in DH.

Pearl_Took

December 21st, 2009, 10:50 am

It did? :huh:

Of course it did! :)

Hmm, what I saw looked like Harry basically rejecting Ginny's advances.

He stands there like a dork with a smile on his face after she's kissed him. Film Harry's dorkishness aside, there is no doubt whatsoever that they are a couple, especially as Hermione tells Harry in the final scene, jokingly, not to snog Ginny too much in front of Ron.

lcbaseball22

December 21st, 2009, 1:00 pm

^

Well yes, but that line doesn't fit with what we actually saw in the film which was that either Harry was no longer interested in Ginny...or maybe he was gay. :lol: IMO, if he was still interested in her, he wouldn't have stood there like an idiot. So is them being a couple implied?

:hmm:

Because with the exception of Ginny comforting Harry around Dumbledore's body...they are never shown together after that awful kiss.

Are we just suppose to assume those "happy hours down by the lake" or whatever took place offscreen? That line isn't convincing to me.

I still say it's going to take quite a bit of work in Deathly Hallows to set right the relationship between these two, but I digress... :relax:

Well, looks like not much news to be had other this interview with the actress returning as Fleur-

http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/cl-mence-po-sy-talks-return-deathly-hallows-french-cosmopolitan-70013/

Oh, and if anyone cares to know where some of the costuming for DH comes from, here you go... :lol:

http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/huddersfield-menswear-store-provides-shirts-ties-deathly-hallows-69991/

I'm guessing that was for the Ministry of Magic sequence :shrug:

Revelry

December 21st, 2009, 1:23 pm

I dislike Bonnie Wright. Period.

She is a terrible actress, seems awkward no matter what she is doing and what on earth is going on with her teeth!?

Jack5555

December 21st, 2009, 2:14 pm

Fury

December 21st, 2009, 2:39 pm

Okay, is it just me or does anyone else feel like we should still be getting more pictures, videos, or high quality set reports? We were just "spoiled" with the trailer like a little kid on Christmas day, but I am craving more! Specifically, I want to see a picture of Tonks, Kinglsy, Dobby, or Professor Sprout. I am anxious to see how they will look in DH. I hope they make Tonks look better than what she did in HBP. And I wonder if they will change up Dobby a bit...

Tonks only looked that way because she was feeling depressed. It was the same in the book, and I thought they did very well. But yes, I am hoping they make her look a little bit more cheery (color-changing hair and stuff) in DH.

Jack5555

December 21st, 2009, 2:54 pm

Tonks only looked that way because she was feeling depressed. It was the same in the book, and I thought they did very well. But yes, I am hoping they make her look a little bit more cheery (color-changing hair and stuff) in DH.
I would not have minded it if they actually gave an explanation behind it. I loved the whole Remus/Tonks subplot in the books and I wished that they put it in the films.

Fury

December 21st, 2009, 2:59 pm

I would not have minded it if they actually gave an explanation behind it. I loved the whole Remus/Tonks subplot in the books and I wished that they put it in the films.

I think the "explanation" was simply that in the movie, she and Remus were already together, and between the war, and Remus' condition, it was taking a toll on her, and her Metamorphmagi power reacted from it.

Revelry

December 21st, 2009, 3:00 pm

Fury

December 21st, 2009, 3:05 pm

Wait... THERE WAS A TRAILER?

Yep, it came with the Blu-Ray and DVD of HBP. I'm not sure where it's online though right now.

Revelry

December 21st, 2009, 3:09 pm

Yep, it came with the Blu-Ray and DVD of HBP. I'm not sure where it's online though right now.
Is it the one that is 54 seconds long?
And has Ollivander speaking of the Deathly Hallows?
I've seen that one online, but I might just go buy the blu-ray... even though I don't think I have a blu-ray player. :cool:

Fury

December 21st, 2009, 3:12 pm

Is it the one that is 54 seconds long?
And has Ollivander speaking of the Deathly Hallows?
I've seen that one online, but I might just go buy the blu-ray... even though I don't think I have a blu-ray player. :cool:

Yep its that one :)

Revelry

December 21st, 2009, 3:17 pm

Ahh... awesome.
It's quite bad quality, but I got most of it.
Ron looks ama-za-zing.
Is it just me or does Griphook look abnormally orange? Or maybe it's the youtube vid.
Cool it with the fake tan Grippy.

LordThingy

December 21st, 2009, 4:29 pm

Okay, is it just me or does anyone else feel like we should still be getting more pictures, videos, or high quality set reports? We were just "spoiled" with the trailer like a little kid on Christmas day, but I am craving more! Specifically, I want to see a picture of Tonks, Kinglsy, Dobby, or Professor Sprout. I am anxious to see how they will look in DH. I hope they make Tonks look better than what she did in HBP. And I wonder if they will change up Dobby a bit...

haha we'll probably be flooded beginning sometime the next few months with pictures. it's only a matter of time.

decarus

December 21st, 2009, 6:49 pm

It seems a little early to be flooded with pictures and trailers and such. Don't get me wrong i really want some more news. I think we have been spoiled only because of the release of the HBP dvd. They had a lot of interviews with the cast and the sneak peek.

We have only had two official photos and they have been rather boring, in my opinion. Bring on some more. I would love to see some of Tonks and maybe a few from DH Part 2. Almost everything besides shell cottage has been from the first film. We haven't seen anything from the Battle or Gringotts.

Here is a link (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=121272&page=105) to the sneak peek from the dvd if you want to watch the full thing.

JR637

December 21st, 2009, 8:50 pm

Well yes, but that line doesn't fit with what we actually saw in the film which was that either Harry was no longer interested in Ginny...or maybe he was gay. :lol: IMO, if he was still interested in her, he wouldn't have stood there like an idiot. So is them being a couple implied?

I think, if I was someone who had just gone to see the movie and had not read any of the books, kinda like my wife, I would think at the end of HBP that Harry and Ginny liked each other as evident in the kiss, but as for a an established relationship at the end of HBP? I don't think so.

If they had cut one other unessential scene or shortened one (ie the magical reformation of Slughorn's house) then they could have added a scene where Harry and Ginny could "date" like the did in the book laying around the lake soaking up the sun and snogging.

As for the scene where Ginny is right out of the shower and offers to tie Harry's shoe, yes I agree I hated this scene as well but if we had to have it, let them kiss again for heaven's sake! Ron, who is NOT the main character, got more kissing scenes then Harry...this should ahve been corrected and hopefully Ginny and Harry's relationship will be explored more in HBP.

-JR

mrfutterman

December 22nd, 2009, 11:58 pm

....hopefully Ginny and Harry's relationship will be explored more in HBP.

-JR

I don't see how it can be unless the film-makers invent stuff wholesale. After all, Harry is on the lam with Ron and Hermione most of the time in DH, while Ginny is at school. They aren't likely to change that: Yates has said that DH1 is a "road movie" as the trio move around from place to place.

Sounds riveting. :no:

harry5678

December 23rd, 2009, 12:19 am

Yates has said that DH1 is a "road movie" as the trio move around from place to place.

Sounds riveting. :no:

I don't think he meant thats what the film itself is like. I heard him say that in an interview asking weither the cinematographer for Hbp was returning for Dh. He said no, and I assumed (as they were still on the subject of cinematography) that DH1 would be FILMED (As in camera movements, editing, the technical things) LIKE a road movie. He also stated that DH 2 would be FILMED as an EPIC so the movements and shots would be more "epic". At least that's how I saw it.

lcbaseball22

December 23rd, 2009, 12:31 am

I don't think he meant thats what the film itself is like. I heard him say that in an interview asking weither the cinematographer for Hbp was returning for Dh. He said no, and I assumed (as they were still on the subject of cinematography) that DH1 would be FILMED (As in camera movements, editing, the technical things) LIKE a road movie. He also stated that DH 2 would be FILMED as an EPIC so the movements and shots would be more "epic". At least that's how I saw it.

I agree :agree:

That's how I understood it too and I fail to understand the naysayers who think Part 1 is going to be dull and boring. I think there will be more than enough "action (however you define it) and I really don't see the camping being any longer than like 15 minutes maximum. :)

decarus

December 23rd, 2009, 2:21 am

I agree. I never thought the first part of the book was boring even the camping, so i don't particularly get it. In the film though, i think that there is going to be more action during the camping then in the book. They are going to be listening to the radio the entire time and there will be some action scenes like those photos we have of the burnt out trailers / mobile homes or those of the trio running through the woods.

I wonder if they are going to show the dementor attack where Harry goes to get food and is attacked in a little town and can't use his patronus because he is wearing the locket at the time. They will probably have them hunting for food a little bit and Hermione reading Rita's book, but it isn't going to be really boring.

Also the first part of the film is going to be a lot of action up till the Ministry Infiltration.

Though to be completely honest the quiet moments have always been more interesting to me then the big action scenes. The action scenes i have enjoyed the most were the graveyard in GoF and the ministry in OotP.

lcbaseball22

December 23rd, 2009, 2:59 am

Though to be completely honest the quiet moments have always been more interesting to me then the big action scenes.

Same here actually. While I like to indulge in action flicks on ocassion, I think I prefer character driven stories with depth, like HP has :)

Honeyducks

December 23rd, 2009, 6:11 am

:lol: Aw, it's bringing back memories to see you guys eagerly awaiting dream_silent's posts. It reminds me of where I was while waiting for HBP. My obsession isn't as strong anymore but I do understand and respect that drive. :tu: Enjoy it! :)

Really? I wasnt really that obsessed with HBP. It might be that I was really dissapointed with OotP, and I didn't have huge expectations for HBP since Yates also directed this movie.

Dont take me wrong, there were some things that I loved from OotP but toning down Harry's anger, the way it dealt with Sirius death, and that he didnt broke a single piece of Dumbledore's office (a scene I was waiting for 4 years!) did irritate me A LOT.

When I heard that HBP was going to be delayed, I was shocked, but I was also ok with it. Maybe it was also because I was waiting for twilight... ejem..

I must say that HBP really impressed me a lot, and I did like it. My only complain is Dumbledore's death which I think it could have been more powerful, but.. oh well..

With SS, I couldnt wait to see the movie, but I wasnt that obsessed like I am now. I saw it on sunday.. and I did like it but it felt an ok movie.. I didnt really care for CoS.. I think I saw it three weeks after it was premiered only because a friend invited... and again, an ok movie for me..

When I saw POA teaser, I was shocked to see how different it looked.. Thats when I found out of mugglenet, this forum, and all the wonderful harry potter sites. You can see in my profile that I registered to this forum the very same month and year that movie was released. I saw it in the day it was released, and you cannot imagine how much I loved this film and thats when I became a TRUE OBSESSED FAN, and I just couldnt wait for GoF.

I was obsessed with GoF as the way I am now for DH, and I saw it at midnight and I loved it. I truly loved the movie, there are some really minor things I would have changed in the graveyard scene, but no big deal. Then I couldnt wait for OotP.. I watch it at 12:20 (tickets were already sold out!) and I got dissapointed, I tried to be positive about it, but I couldnt deny I could feel some dissapointment... the HBP.. sometimes I would look for info sometimes I didnt really care.. then a month before the film, I became very hyped with all the interviews, clips, whatever... and loved it :)

Now I am insanely obsessed for the last two films because they will be the most epic films of all the time ! (THEY BETTER BE!)..

sorry to get so off topic.. I got carried away ...

JR637

December 23rd, 2009, 3:02 pm

Same here actually. While I like to indulge in action flicks on ocassion, I think I prefer character driven stories with depth, like HP has :)

I agree. Action is good to a point, but nothing can make up for an amazing story. I do like to indulge in mindless action from time to time, but over all, my favorite movies are very strongly plot driven and dialogue driven. Hopefully DHs will fit into this category.

-JR

KlausBaudelaire

December 23rd, 2009, 3:13 pm

I dislike Bonnie Wright. Period.

She is a terrible actress, seems awkward no matter what she is doing and what on earth is going on with her teeth!?

No idea what you're talking about, she seems very easy-going to me.
It's her part to be just small.

LordThingy

December 23rd, 2009, 7:02 pm

I don't see how it can be unless the film-makers invent stuff wholesale. After all, Harry is on the lam with Ron and Hermione most of the time in DH, while Ginny is at school. They aren't likely to change that: Yates has said that DH1 is a "road movie" as the trio move around from place to place.

Sounds riveting. :no:

That's what the book is, they are on the move the entire time, jumping from place to place trying to figure out the horcruxes. They do MUCH more in the first part of deathly hallows than they do in most of the other books. I think people who expect it to be boring should reread the first part of the book again, there is so much going on in it! the seven potters, the wedding, the cafe ambush, fight with lupin at grimmauld place, the ministry heist, ron gets splinched, godrics hollow (snake attack and narrowly missing voldemort), the silver doe scene, then the snatchers. i mean, they are on the road the whole time but i can't imagine the movie ever being boring with all of that going on.

lcbaseball22

December 23rd, 2009, 7:15 pm

That's what the book is, they are on the move the entire time, jumping from place to place trying to figure out the horcruxes. They do MUCH more in the first part of deathly hallows than they do in most of the other books. I think people who expect it to be boring should reread the first part of the book again, there is so much going on in it! the seven potters, the wedding, the cafe ambush, fight with lupin at grimmauld place, the ministry heist, ron gets splinched, godrics hollow (snake attack and narrowly missing voldemort), the silver doe scene, then the snatchers. i mean, they are on the road the whole time but i can't imagine the movie ever being boring with all of that going on.

Absolutely! :agree: Yes, I think they need to refresh their memories :p

You're right, there's likely more action in even the 1st half of the final book than in the whole of any of the others...so no worries there :)

There are however IMO other issues to worry about, like how they are going to fix all their past mistakes, which show relevance to DH. ;)

Just to name a few- the horcruxes, Dobby, Sirius's mirror, H/G relationship, Mundungus, etc

All these things listed need either introducing, re-introducing, and/or better development :tu:

JR637

December 23rd, 2009, 7:22 pm

No idea what you're talking about, she seems very easy-going to me.
It's her part to be just small.

I agree thart her part is small so is hard to judge but come on, she is kinda rigid compared to the trio. Don't get me wrong, I like Bonnie and wouldn't want anyone else to play her part, but her acting needs some work. I'll say it again, whoever got with Emma and helped her with her acting skills, that person should get with Bonnie and give her a hand...it can only help.

-JR

Jack5555

December 23rd, 2009, 8:52 pm

Official Cast List for Part I
Daniel Radcliffe
Rupert Grint
Emma Watson
Ralph Fiennes
Bill Nighy
John Hurt
Rhys Ifans
Helena Bonham Carter
Robbie Coltrane
Imelda Staunton
Jason Issacs
Miranda Richardson
Warwick Davis
Alan Rickman
Maggie Smith
Brendan Gleeson
Ciaran Hinds
Timothy Spall
David Thewlis
Julie Walters
Tom Felton
Bonnie Wright
Jamie Campbell Bowers
Richard Griffiths
Matthew Lewis
Evanna Lynch
Fiona Shaw
Helen McCroy
David O'Hara
Natalia Tena

http://www.snitchseeker.com/gallery/albums/userpics/84186/Image1%7E56.jpg

Kind of odd, not everyone is on there, like George Harris, Clemence Poesy, Domhnall Gleeson, Andy Linden, Dave Legeno, and Miriam Margolyes. They all should be in DHI but are not listed (well except Miriam Margolyes).

boushh

December 23rd, 2009, 9:16 pm

^^ Where did that come from?

ETA: Never mind. Figured it out. Kind of weird that the adult (yeah I know they're all adults now) cast isn't in Alphabetical order, no?

lcbaseball22

December 23rd, 2009, 9:57 pm

Jack5555

December 23rd, 2009, 10:20 pm

Not really, if I recall correctly there was a lot of names missing from the "official cast list" WB released for HBP too :shrug:
Ahh :) That is good :P

MasterOfDeath

December 23rd, 2009, 10:48 pm

Really? I wasnt really that obsessed with HBP. It might be that I was really dissapointed with OotP, and I didn't have huge expectations for HBP since Yates also directed this movie.

Dont take me wrong, there were some things that I loved from OotP but toning down Harry's anger, the way it dealt with Sirius death, and that he didnt broke a single piece of Dumbledore's office (a scene I was waiting for 4 years!) did irritate me A LOT.

When I heard that HBP was going to be delayed, I was shocked, but I was also ok with it. Maybe it was also because I was waiting for twilight... ejem..

I must say that HBP really impressed me a lot, and I did like it. My only complain is Dumbledore's death which I think it could have been more powerful, but.. oh well..

With SS, I couldnt wait to see the movie, but I wasnt that obsessed like I am now. I saw it on sunday.. and I did like it but it felt an ok movie.. I didnt really care for CoS.. I think I saw it three weeks after it was premiered only because a friend invited... and again, an ok movie for me..

When I saw POA teaser, I was shocked to see how different it looked.. Thats when I found out of mugglenet, this forum, and all the wonderful harry potter sites. You can see in my profile that I registered to this forum the very same month and year that movie was released. I saw it in the day it was released, and you cannot imagine how much I loved this film and thats when I became a TRUE OBSESSED FAN, and I just couldnt wait for GoF.

I was obsessed with GoF as the way I am now for DH, and I saw it at midnight and I loved it. I truly loved the movie, there are some really minor things I would have changed in the graveyard scene, but no big deal. Then I couldnt wait for OotP.. I watch it at 12:20 (tickets were already sold out!) and I got dissapointed, I tried to be positive about it, but I couldnt deny I could feel some dissapointment... the HBP.. sometimes I would look for info sometimes I didnt really care.. then a month before the film, I became very hyped with all the interviews, clips, whatever... and loved it :)

Now I am insanely obsessed for the last two films because they will be the most epic films of all the time ! (THEY BETTER BE!)..

sorry to get so off topic.. I got carried away ...

Oh I was just as disappointed in OOTP when I first saw it, if not more. :lol: Anyone on here who knew me back in 07 knew that I was notorious for bashing OOTP, especially the editor Mark Day who at the time I felt ruined the film. :lol: The thing was, OOTP left me cold, empty. It left me wanting more. Especially after DH was over and done with, I think I and many other fans on here were hungry for another Potter fix so we put everything onto the films and the next film in particular, HBP. This is why the delay was so powerful for us. I, for one was going into post-potter depression after DH and definitely craved more. I needed more Potter so HBP became my new obsession from the end of summer 07 for the two years after. I created a list detailing every single fact known about the film and what was changed, etc and would update it every month. Eventually it got too big and I offered to pass it on to two other fans on here: ArryGrotter and LcBaseball and the rest is history. :p Hopefully I've been able to put it all into perspective for you and all the other fans who kinda returned to the fandom after HBP came out. :)

But yeah, it's understandable that the delay affected us so much. We just came off of DH, the series was over, the movies were all we had and we felt like we were waiting so long as it was and then they delayed it even further. :lol: I also had faith and hope that HBP would improve on OOTP. I didn't like OOTP at first but I did see potential. The more I watched it over the past two years the more I warmed up to it. It's not NEARLY as brilliant as the intense, dark, emotional and POWERFUL masterpiece of a novel which to this day remains my favorite of the entire book series, but as a movie it's not bad. My faith in Yates paid off! He did improve. They aren't perfect yet, there is still room for improvement but at this rate, I have no doubt they will deliver. I am more apprehensive about DH since it is my second favorite book behind OOTP. HBP as a book really wasn't near my favorite at all. so I wasn't as bothered by changes, etc. But with two films, I think DH has a chance to stay canon but still be cinematic (like HBP was but ten times better since I feel the source material is hundred times superior). HBP the movie is no doubt now my far favorite of the film series thus far. My faith in Yates has grown even more after this past summer.

I'm excited about DH but not as feverishly so as I was for HBP. I got my post-DH potter fix. :lol: My anticipation for DH is in some ways more laid back and controlled. I think it's a good thing. I need to step back and take a bit of a break now from my obsession. :lol: I suspect if DH1 blows me away, I will be just as feverishly excited for DH2 in the 7 months leading into that as I was for HBP, if not more! :drool: Bring on the new year and the official wait for DH1 begins! :cool: The very end. :scared: Just what will I do with myself when this is all over? :whistle: (and no that is NOT being sarcastic!)

Anyway, to get back on topic.....I agree. DH1 will most likely have more action, adventure, drama, emotion, suspense, pathos, story, depth, character development, etc etc than any of the other Potter movies PUT TOGETHER!!! :tu:

JR637

December 24th, 2009, 12:54 am

Anyway, to get back on topic.....I agree. DH1 will most likely have more action, adventure, drama, emotion, suspense, pathos, story, depth, character development, etc etc than any of the other Potter movies PUT TOGETHER!!! :tu:

Man I hope so. DH1 is going to be so completely different from past HP films that I'm a little scared that people will not like it. People have grown so accustomed to seeing Hogwarts and all of its glory and we just don't have that in DH1. A lot of the locations they will be will be very non-magical with magical people doing limited magic. It will be more like a regular muggle movie then a movie about wizards. Not that this is a bad thing but it could rub some people the wrong way...

-JR

SwedishSkinJer

December 24th, 2009, 2:23 am

I dislike Bonnie Wright. Period.

She is a terrible actress, seems awkward no matter what she is doing and what on earth is going on with her teeth!?

I have the opposite reaction. She's excellent as Ginny, and she also does extremely well with the character's more aggressive moments (her reaction in the Quidditch Pitch, etc). Furthermore, I think that she's very, very beautiful.

MasterOfDeath

December 24th, 2009, 2:27 am

Man I hope so. DH1 is going to be so completely different from past HP films that I'm a little scared that people will not like it. People have grown so accustomed to seeing Hogwarts and all of its glory and we just don't have that in DH1. A lot of the locations they will be will be very non-magical with magical people doing limited magic. It will be more like a regular muggle movie then a movie about wizards. Not that this is a bad thing but it could rub some people the wrong way...

-JR

It's amazing how after six full movies, it's very rare to hear even a general audience member complain about being sick and tired of the Hogwarts location. :lol: I credit this to the changing of directors and influx of different styles. Hogwarts feels different in every movie. Even from PS/SS to COS, it feels slightly different in terms of the lightning. The wonderful thing about David Yates is how versatile he's proving himself to be. HBP looks and feels lightyears away from OOTP as a film. From what we've glimpsed of DH, it too looks very different from HBP or OOTP. This is a benefit of the Potter films. As good as LOTR was, after three films, it did start to feel like more of the same, IMO. It really felt like the same movie in three parts. There was very little progression in terms of the look and feel of each film. It's the same for the battles. I felt they shouldn't have pumped up the battle in Helm's Deep so much in Two Towers. It kinda stole the thunder away from the battle in ROTK which should have felt more important and intense, IMO. The Potter filmmakers have avoided this by cutting out the battle in HBP. Now the battle for Hogwarts will be 100% unique and it will be even more amazing!

It's rare that an audience gets to live with the hero for years before he sets out on his journey. We are just as invested in the 'home' Harry is leaving (Hogwarts) as the character is. The audience will be able to live Harry's journey right along with him. The HP series introduces a range of immersion heretofore unknown. It's the genius of the series that it is a strictly character-driven epic, where the epic has a very strong basis in the VERY intimate. Story-telling at it's very finest. :tu:

decarus

December 24th, 2009, 5:44 am

9th_Wonder

December 24th, 2009, 5:56 am

I think that what is interesting here is that Maggie Smith is on this list and Aberforth Dumbledore neither of which are in DH1, i don't think. Are they going to be at the wedding or are they going to show them at hogwarts? Or will they just be in photos?

I didn't notice that. Looks like we might get a glimpse of Hogwarts during the first movie after all. As for Aberforth, dream_silently mentioned a scene in which the trio go to Hogsmeade in Part I. The cast list may add some credibility to his info.

IenjoyAcidPops

December 24th, 2009, 6:24 am

It's amazing how after six full movies, it's very rare to hear even a general audience member complain about being sick and tired of the Hogwarts location. :lol: I credit this to the changing of directors and influx of different styles. Hogwarts feels different in every movie. Even from PS/SS to COS, it feels slightly different in terms of the lightning. The wonderful thing about David Yates is how versatile he's proving himself to be. HBP looks and feels lightyears away from OOTP as a film. From what we've glimpsed of DH, it too looks very different from HBP or OOTP. This is a benefit of the Potter films. As good as LOTR was, after three films, it did start to feel like more of the same, IMO. It really felt like the same movie in three parts. There was very little progression in terms of the look and feel of each film. It's the same for the battles. I felt they shouldn't have pumped up the battle in Helm's Deep so much in Two Towers. It kinda stole the thunder away from the battle in ROTK which should have felt more important and intense, IMO. The Potter filmmakers have avoided this by cutting out the battle in HBP. Now the battle for Hogwarts will be 100% unique and it will be even more amazing!

It's rare that an audience gets to live with the hero for years before he sets out on his journey. We are just as invested in the 'home' Harry is leaving (Hogwarts) as the character is. The audience will be able to live Harry's journey right along with him. The HP series introduces a range of immersion heretofore unknown. It's the genius of the series that it is a strictly character-driven epic, where the epic has a very strong basis in the VERY intimate. Story-telling at it's very finest. :tu:

Some very good points there (I agree about Lord of the Rings; I've always thought a bit too much was made of Helm's Deep - probably because it was the first opportunity in that saga for a massive, all-out battle sequence). It's pretty impressive how fresh this film series, and Hogwarts in particular, still feels, partly due to the changes in director, partly due to the fact that every book/film has a somewhat different mood and energy. I do think I'm really going to miss Hogwarts when we're away from it through most of DH (provided there are no cutaways to it, and I hope there aren't).

Also, I was so happy to hear Miranda Richardson is coming back! (I'm writing a version of DH now myself, and writing Rita Skeeter in her voice is fun just in itself.)

MasterOfDeath

December 24th, 2009, 7:17 am

Some very good points there (I agree about Lord of the Rings; I've always thought a bit too much was made of Helm's Deep - probably because it was the first opportunity in that saga for a massive, all-out battle sequence). It's pretty impressive how fresh this film series, and Hogwarts in particular, still feels, partly due to the changes in director, partly due to the fact that every book/film has a somewhat different mood and energy. I do think I'm really going to miss Hogwarts when we're away from it through most of DH (provided there are no cutaways to it, and I hope there aren't).

Also, I was so happy to hear Miranda Richardson is coming back! (I'm writing a version of DH now myself, and writing Rita Skeeter in her voice is fun just in itself.)

Yes, definitely. I really don't think we should see Hogwarts in part one. I've always argued against this. Perhaps a montage shot of Snape in the daily prophet as he is made headmaster or something like that but spending one entire scene in Hogwarts? No way; especially after the trio go into hiding. I believe strongly that the audience should feel the trio's isolation and desperation. It would break the spell if we cut to Hogwarts now and then. DH1 needs to be linear and intense and single protagonist POV, sorta how OOTP the film was.

I think a better idea would be to show what was happening in Hogwarts as Neville explains it in DH2. That would work loads better, IMO and would actually build-up to the battle since the desire in the audience for outright rebellion will be stroked even more immediately after seeing Neville being tortured by the teachers in the flashback.

Thanks for the kind comments on my post, btw. :) :tu: I too am excited about Miranda Richardson returning as Rita Skeeter. Why? I've realized all along that the casting of Rita Skeeter means they are going to retain some semblance of the, 'Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore' plot which I think is a wonderful, emotional, shocking and deep part of the book. It also happened to be masterfully set-up in the HBP film. There are so many Dumbledore moments that people can look back on in that film and question Dumbledore's motives or morality (the way he manipulates/uses Slughorn, etc hell, even the way he whisks Harry away from his date with the waitress to fulfill his own plans). Not to mention the sheer brilliance of Dumbledore's last line to Harry in HBP being, "Trust me....TRUST me!" :tu: So yeah...I'm happy about that bit of casting. :lol: Though, didn't we know for a while that she was cast?

SolarHeart

December 24th, 2009, 7:49 am

MasterOfDeath

December 24th, 2009, 7:58 am

I disagree with this statement as LOTR is ONE movie, shot in three parts, just as the books were ONE novel split in three parts. Similarly, the books are one novel spkit into three volumes. Tolkien originially wanted to publish it in one volume but could not find a publisher who would do it. Therefore, it became a trilogy.

Oh I know, but the films were released a year apart so whether it was intentional or not, they were separate films.

ActingDude17

December 24th, 2009, 6:38 pm

I have the opposite reaction. She's excellent as Ginny, and she also does extremely well with the character's more aggressive moments (her reaction in the Quidditch Pitch, etc). Furthermore, I think that she's very, very beautiful.

I agree. In my opinion, Bonnie Wright is a fantastic Ginny.

decarus

December 26th, 2009, 3:20 am

In this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sessAE2cGwI&feature=player_embedded) you can tell that it is Ron wearing a sling, this is just random clips from one of the videos maybe PS/SS.

LordThingy

December 26th, 2009, 5:41 am

You're right! I think that makes it pretty obvious that ron was the one splinched. and I'm pleased to see that Ron and Hermione look sufficiently rugged in that video from being on the run.

JR637

December 26th, 2009, 6:40 pm

Also, I was so happy to hear Miranda Richardson is coming back! (I'm writing a version of DH now myself, and writing Rita Skeeter in her voice is fun just in itself.)

I am currently re-reading DH and I'm at the part where she is giving hints about the upcoming Dumbledore tell-all and I love how deliciously evil she is! I can't wait to see this done in the movies.

-JR

Jack5555

December 28th, 2009, 12:09 am

I am currently re-reading DH and I'm at the part where she is giving hints about the upcoming Dumbledore tell-all and I love how deliciously evil she is! I can't wait to see this done in the movies.

-JR
She fit the role so well that I was disappointed not see her in OotP. That reminds me that I need to re-read it soon :D

ActingDude17

December 28th, 2009, 1:24 am

Re-reading OotP a few months ago I made the Skeeter/beetle Animagus connection for the first time (a skeeter is a bug, often slang for "mosquito"). I am quite ashamed of myself.

JR637

December 28th, 2009, 3:06 am

Re-reading OotP a few months ago I made the Skeeter/beetle Animagus connection for the first time (a skeeter is a bug, often slang for "mosquito"). I am quite ashamed of myself.

LOL!! I never made that connection till right now...wow am I slow

-JR

Fury

December 28th, 2009, 3:27 am

Yeah, they never did show Rita Skeeter as a beetle in Goblet of Fire Movie, maybe they'll do that in Deathly Hallows.

Jack5555

December 28th, 2009, 3:33 am

LOL!! I never made that connection till right now...wow am I slow

-JR
LOL me three!

Anyways. I was just thinking, which duel in DH do you think will be the most epic? I personally think Bellatrix vs. Hermione/Ginny/Luna (later Bellatrix vs. Molly), followed close by Voldemort vs. McGonagall/Slughorn/Kingsly. I am so excited to see their respective actors duel. So what will be yours?

Fury

December 28th, 2009, 3:35 am

If they do it correctly and as good or better than it was in the book, McGonagall vs. Snape should be epic.

LordThingy

December 28th, 2009, 6:12 am

I'm hoping the McGonagall vs. Snape is still in and they go all out with it, i'd love to see Minerva getting to show her stuff.

9th_Wonder

December 28th, 2009, 6:23 am

^^^

I don't see why they would take the McGonagall-Snape duel out but yeah, I do hope they execute it well.

LordThingy

December 28th, 2009, 7:44 am

^^^

I don't see why they would take the McGonagall-Snape duel out but yeah, I do hope they execute it well.

Well they tend to take a lot of liberty with the battles in the HP movies. The took out a lot from OotP and omitted the battle in HBP, so you never know what duels they will find important enough to include.

lcbaseball22

December 28th, 2009, 8:54 am

Well they tend to take a lot of liberty with the battles in the HP movies. The took out a lot from OotP and omitted the battle in HBP, so you never know what duels they will find important enough to include.

Right, or if the duels are kept, how they will change 'em...

I mean they almost never seem to match how Jo wrote them. Even Dumbledore vs. Voldy in OotP was a bit different...and not as good, IMO

And then they've managed to dull down any of the more generic duels as well. Almost every spell seems to just knock them on their *** :relax:

First of all, how about Stupefy actually does what it is supposed to...which is make the victim UNCONSCIOUS. Stupefy as seen in the movies is so weak compared to the one in the book where the unfortunate soul on the receiving end is incapacitated until someone revives them...

And where is the variety?

In DH I want to see more use of Locomotor Mortis (has this been used in any time other than the deleted scene in SS/PS?) and Petrificus Totalus (only used twice if IIRC) for offensive and Protego and Impedimenta for defensive, amongst the use of elemental transfiguration :cool:

I know Harry himself never really mastered the complexities of Transfiguration but we see highly skilled wizards in the book use it a lot. It's probably the most varied and useful form of magic...and very handy in dueling. Not only can you transfigure objects to attack an opponent, but it can also be used defensively to conjure shields and/or summon objects to protect you for instance. Not to mention it would be more cinematic than just streaks of light shooting out of a wand. :p Unfortunately it hasn't been utilized much by the filmmakers though. Sure, it was used a bit in the Dumbledore and Voldemort duel...but where was the summoning of the statues to block spells and protect Harry? :whistle:

I hope to see a lot more Transfiguration use in DH. There is a lot in the book- glisseo, summoning the armored knights, herding the desks, etc and of course the awesome duel of Snape vs. McGonagall, which nearly rivals that of DD vs. Voldy. I can not wait to see all of this. :drool:

There is just so much that can be done if they use their imagination a bit and use spells how Jo wrote 'em, instead of the typical blandness

DHredefinesEPIC

December 28th, 2009, 9:08 pm

which duel in DH do you think will be the most epic? I personally think Bellatrix vs. Hermione/Ginny/Luna

This, I desperately want to see Hermione duel, and Bellatrix would be interesting as well seeing as how we've never actually seen her duel, just apparate around the DOM cast AK on Sirius, apparate around The Burrow, burn it, virtually destroy the Great Hall, burn Hagrid's Hut and cast the Cruciatus Curse on Harry for 2 seconds...

I just noticed all she's done in the movies so far is apparate around places, burn things, cast Unforgivable Curses on people and destroy the Great Hall :lol:

JR637

December 28th, 2009, 9:19 pm

This, I desperately want to see Hermione duel, and Bellatrix would be interesting as well seeing as how we've never actually seen her duel, just apparate around the DOM cast AK on Sirius, apparate around The Burrow, burn it, virtually destroy the Great Hall, burn Hagrid's Hut and cast the Cruciatus Curse on Harry for 2 seconds...

I just noticed all she's done in the movies so far is apparate around places, burn things, cast Unforgivable Curses on people and destroy the Great Hall :lol:

I agree...we need to see a Hermoine duel!

Also, a short behind the scenes clip can be found here (http://raincloud.warnerbros.com/wbol/us/whv/med/harry_potter/ulitimateedition/ecclips/US-HEPR-ECClip-CastAndCharacters_CRMLoyalty_03-HP2UCE_qt_500.mov). It's a .mov file.

JR

9th_Wonder

December 28th, 2009, 10:38 pm

AccioHP

December 28th, 2009, 11:07 pm

I'm really looking forward to seeing all those duels as well!! Iactually can't wait to see Helena bohnam carter playing hermione as bellatrix!

Very true. But they omitted the battle in HBP so they can go all out in DH part II. Hopefully they won't disappoint :lol:

Exactly! I'm hoping they include all of the duels and battle they can since the battle in GNP was left out.

Jack5555

December 29th, 2009, 2:33 am

JR637

December 29th, 2009, 5:35 am

Hmmm, can anyone get a confirmation if Nicollette Sheridan will be replacing Emma Thompson as Trelawny? I read here (http://www.nicollettesheridan.org/) that she is replacing her. I don't know what to make of this.

First of all, no I can't confirm that and second, if it is true, that is total **. I'm pretty sure that she is American not British and wasn't that like an unwritten rule to the Potter series? Also, Emma Thompson is too busy for DH??? What the heck is she doing that she can't do some scenes for probably the biggest movies of 2010/11???

-JR

Mad_Druid

December 29th, 2009, 6:09 am

Also, Emma Thompson is too busy for DH??? What the heck is she doing that she can't do some scenes for probably the biggest movies of 2010/11???

Instead of appearing in DH, Emma Thompson reportedly chose to continue with the Nanny McPhee film series.

snapes_witch

December 29th, 2009, 6:22 am

Instead of appearing in DH, Emma Thompson reportedly chose to continue with the Nanny McPhee film series.

I'm not sure of the exact timing, it might even be the reason for Trelawney's non-appearance in HBP, but Emma did bow out of the series to do Nanny McPhee again. I don't blame her, Sybil isn't much more than a cameo anyway. She was never as important in the movies as in the books; Cuaron had to be persuaded by JKR to keep her in PoA.

LordThingy

December 29th, 2009, 6:32 am

I thought there was a rumor awhile back that Emma Thompson appeared on the DH set for 1 day to film her scene. I sure hope its true, it'll be nice to see Trelawney, if only for a bit. Dame Maggie Smith found time to do both HP and Nanny McPhee, so i'm sure Emma could take one day out of her schedule :/

ActingDude17

December 29th, 2009, 8:04 am

I'm pretty sure that she is American not British and wasn't that like an unwritten rule to the Potter series?

More than unwritten. Straight from JKR herself. When PS/SS was being cast that was one of her few restrictions. She wanted the films to preserve the British spirit of the books.

On top of this, look at what the link ends with: "Nicollette Sheridan will also be seen in the hit fantasy franchise, “Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows,” after replacing actress Emma Thompson in the last minute." Not the best spelling, grammar, or titling I've seen before.

Okrim

December 29th, 2009, 10:06 am

Read this:

http://nicollette-sheridan.net/news/rumor-control-nicollette-not-to-be-on-harry-potter/

ronjalina

December 29th, 2009, 3:51 pm

So, Nicolette Sheridan is actually British? Didn't know that.

But I'm glad this rumour has been debunked. It would be kind of redundant to cast another actress for the role of Sybil Trelawney just for the sake of it. Trelawney doesn't do anything that is important for the story or the outcome in DH. I would have loved to see Emma Thompson back in DH as a nod to her being part of the franchise, but when the DH filming schedule interferes with her other plans then I understand that she decides against it. :)

KJRiddle

December 29th, 2009, 6:24 pm

Guys, the day before yesterday is saw a rumor on a Dutch forum, it's rumored that the Shrieking Shack will be replaced by the boathouse, as Voldemort's 'headquarters' during the Battle of Hogwarts.

This morning I read the same rumor appear in a post on Oclumencia about Voldemort in the last two movies. The article says:

- That the final movies are very close to the book.
- That Daniel has been criticized for his 'lack of emotion' in the Harry Potter films.
- But during the scene with the ghosts of his parents, Sirius and Lupin at his side, this seems nothing but a lie.
- That the encounter between Voldemort and Snape, will be a completely new scenario. The scene will be placed in 'an alley in Hogwarts, with a water channel where are some boats, probably an underground space' (boathouse). Well, now I know for sure! I've read it on a Dutch forum and thought it was completely bullsht, but I start to believe this may be true.
- That the final battle takes place inside and outside the castle, with the participation of Acromantula. It also says that a large principal cast fights in an unrecognizable destroyed Great Hall.
- That the scenes where Voldemort tortures Ollivander and Gregorovitch will 'mature the tone of the movies'.
- That the scenes where Voldemort dies, is very close to the book.

lcbaseball22

December 29th, 2009, 7:04 pm

Considering the fake script you posted I don't know whether to believe you anymore...but that's some interesting info there.

If that's true I guess Snape's death hasn't been moved to the Astronomy Tower like we all speculated :lol:

Hmm, not sure about this new location though...very odd, I don't get this decision

AccioHP

December 29th, 2009, 7:46 pm

KJRiddle

December 29th, 2009, 8:18 pm

ActingDude17

December 29th, 2009, 8:25 pm

Well, we'll see when the first movie reviews appear online :')

Yeah, one year and seven months from now. :(

boushh

December 29th, 2009, 9:12 pm

Hmm, that location is a little weird if it's true. No real significance to it or anything. Might make for some good atmosphere though. We'll see...

lcbaseball22

December 29th, 2009, 9:21 pm

Well, I found the article for myself...so the article does exist at least- http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://www.oclumencia.com.br/&ei=ynE6S7elB4K8sgOSp8zHBA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBMQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Docclumencia%26hl%3Den

Who knows whether the info is accurate or not though :hmm: Doesn't Okrim run one of these foreign sites? Perhaps he can tell us.

DML1991

December 29th, 2009, 9:47 pm

Yeah, one year and seven months from now. :(We should be getting some next summer with test screenings. We'll know for sure then.

I'll ask Dream_Silently (on harrypotterforums) about this...

Okrim

December 29th, 2009, 10:51 pm

Well... the source of this rumour is very reliable. So we can assume the rumour is true... it's the same source who alerted oclumencia about the first photo coming, about Aberforth and so on.

Jack5555

December 29th, 2009, 11:23 pm

Gah, I would be dissapointed if "Club Voldy" was not located in the Shrieking Shack. It kind of brought things full circle. Like how Snape almost died there but he was saved by James, and then he actually dies in there.

SwedishSkinJer

December 30th, 2009, 12:21 am

I was thinking about the actor they selected to portray Abertforth in DH, and it made me wonder: since Dumbledore's eyes are not particularly emphasized in the movies (which is how Harry connects Aberforth to him, I believe), perhaps they chose Ciaran Hinds due to his physical resemblance to Michael Gambon?

Hinds:

http://www.harrymedia.com/img/data/media/814/Ciaran_hinds.jpg

Gambon:

http://www.femalefirst.co.uk/image-library/port/376/m/michael-gambon-awi-10.jpg

Jack5555

December 30th, 2009, 12:41 am

9th_Wonder

December 30th, 2009, 12:43 am

They really do look alike. And they can always have Hinds wear blue contacts.

SwedishSkinJer

December 30th, 2009, 1:00 am

Yeah. I was thinking, "In costume, Hinds as Aberforth has a lot of facial similarities to Gambon's Dumbledore."

AccioHP

December 30th, 2009, 3:41 am

snapes_witch

December 30th, 2009, 3:59 am

Gambon and Hinds so look alot alike! It'll be cool to see Hinds in costume. As for the runored location for snapes death, I think it gives for a cool backdrop w the water and stuff, and it's a location we really haven't seen (if I'm remembering correctly). The astronomy tower wouldve been cool bc coming full circle from hbp, but put of the three options I would prefer he shrieking shack just for canon sake. And I'd like to see it again since the last time was in poa

If they do change the scene from the Shrieking Shack, it will confirm my suspicion that Kloves and Yates just don't get it! (It could be just about anything!) Isn't the Shrieking Shack's significance to Snape obvious and his dying there fitting? I guess not!:relax:

LordThingy

December 30th, 2009, 5:03 am

If they do change the scene from the Shrieking Shack, it will confirm my suspicion that Kloves and Yates just don't get it! (It could be just about anything!) Isn't the Shrieking Shack's significance to Snape obvious and his dying there fitting? I guess not!:relax:

Did the movies ever mention snape was almost killed in the Shrieking Shack? If not, then it wouldn't be necessary for Snape to die there because there would be no connection for the audience to make. I think having the Voldemort/Snape sequence on the astronomy tower would be impressive, and the audience would remember that just a year ago Snape had murdered Dumbledore in that very place.

boushh

December 30th, 2009, 5:29 am

Did the movies ever mention snape was almost killed in the Shrieking Shack? If not, then it wouldn't be necessary for Snape to die there because there would be no connection for the audience to make. I think having the Voldemort/Snape sequence on the astronomy tower would be impressive, and the audience would remember that just a year ago Snape had murdered Dumbledore in that very place.

The movies never make mention of it so I'm not that concerned about his death potentially not happening at the Shrieking Shack. It was still a great set though, and I think it would have worked nicely. The fans would know the significance, but to movie only people it would seem a bit random, I think.

For the films I agree it would be more significant to use the astronomy tower.

JR637

December 30th, 2009, 5:46 am

I don't doubt that it will look good in the movie to have Snape's death in the boat house, but my question is why change it? I'm sure cost isn't an issue so what change the location to a place hardly ever if ever mentioned in the books? Seems pointless and unnecessary.

-JR

LordThingy

December 30th, 2009, 6:26 am

To me, I think it would make most sense for Voldemort to be positioned on the highest tower at Hogwarts during the battle, overseeing everything his death eaters are doing. From a movie standpoint, I think that would be a better battle tactic than having him stationed way removed from the battle in the Shrieking Shack.

I'd be fine either way, I'd love to see the Shrieking Shack again, and it'd be canon, but I think it'd be more impressive for it to take place on the Astronomy Tower.

JustAnIllusion

December 30th, 2009, 6:31 am

- That the scenes where Voldemort dies, is very close to the book.

This is bad news, IMHO. Voldemort's death was anticlimatic; we spend countless minutes receiving a load of plot before Harry manages to expelliarmus his way out of trouble. I wish he would've defeated Voldemort because he conquered death, rather than because of a fluke in which he defeated Draco and got the Elder wand (which, again, was a fluke, because Draco's 'defeat' of Dumbledore is still unrealistic to me... Dumbledore allowed himself to be disarmed, so I don't see it as quite a defeat).

I was hoping they would make the wandlore more poignant, or at least less confusing. I was also hoping for the final duel to be something memorable; it's the last Potter duel, and you expect massive emotion, excitement, or both.

I don't doubt that it will look good in the movie to have Snape's death in the boat house, but my question is why change it? I'm sure cost isn't an issue so what change the location to a place hardly ever if ever mentioned in the books? Seems pointless and unnecessary.

-JR

Well, maybe it's more convenient in the written script for Harry and gang to find Snape in this location; maybe the atmosphere fits better. I don't think it's right to judge the decision as pointless until we see it, or at least see how it fits.

Noldus

December 30th, 2009, 10:52 am

JustAnIllusion

December 30th, 2009, 11:03 am

I can't figure out where the boat house is :hmm:
I think Snape's death either should be on the astronomy tower or in the Shrieking Shack. Not a random place without significance to the book fans, nor the movie fans.

Well, maybe the place will be more poignant once we see it. Maybe it radiates desolation; we really can't judge it until we've seen it in context.

Noldus

December 30th, 2009, 11:46 am

Well, maybe the place will be more poignant once we see it. Maybe it radiates desolation; we really can't judge it until we've seen it in context.

That's true :) Personally I hope this rumour is fake.

decarus

December 30th, 2009, 1:09 pm

I've never thought the shrieking shack was that interesting of a place to kill off Snape. In the book, the reason they chose it was because it was a place that the trio could sneak up and watch without being seen.

I think one of the problems is that the shrieking shack was a lot bigger in the film so the entry was downstairs and the main room was upstairs. They also made it so that the entire room was swaying back and forth which i think might take away from the tense moment of Snape being killed in the film. Though they could change these things, but then they would lose the connection to PoA.

Either way i don't really care where they kill Snape.

Fury

December 30th, 2009, 1:14 pm

The Boat Docks... I believe it was a place we have only seen in the video games. I know I've seen it in Order of the Phoenix. It is basically on the lake right behind Hogwarts. Stairs go all the way down to it from the place where... erm... Umbridge sacked Trelawney in the movie.

Also in Half-Blood Prince... picture of it in the game here...

http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Boathouse

JR637

December 30th, 2009, 3:17 pm

That's true :) Personally I hope this rumour is fake.

I agree...this just doesn't seem right to me.

-JR

boushh

December 30th, 2009, 3:28 pm

I've never thought the shrieking shack was that interesting of a place to kill off Snape. In the book, the reason they chose it was because it was a place that the trio could sneak up and watch without being seen.

It was significant because he was killed in the place where he was almost killed once before. IMHO, that was the reason for the Shack being chosen, as well as it being off of the Hogwarts grounds.

However, in the films the plot/character thread of the werewolf incident isn't mentioned so the Shack holds no significance to Snape's character in the films.

Bscorp

December 30th, 2009, 5:32 pm

This morning I read the same rumor appear in a post on Oclumencia about Voldemort in the last two movies. The article says:

Ok, can you post a link to this post in Occlumencia?

lcbaseball22

December 30th, 2009, 5:44 pm

Ok, can you post a link to this post in Occlumencia?

I was going to ask the same thing, but I looked it up myself and already did (translated even) :)

Well, I found the article for myself...so the article does exist at least- http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://www.oclumencia.com.br/&ei=ynE6S7elB4K8sgOSp8zHBA&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBMQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Docclumencia%26hl%3Den

Who knows whether the info is accurate or not though :hmm: Doesn't Okrim run one of these foreign sites? Perhaps he can tell us.

EDIT:

Oops, sorry just noticed that it wasn't a direct link before...but I've fixed it now- http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=pt&u=http://www.oclumencia.com.br/2009/12/informacoes-das-cenas-com-voldemort-em-reliquias-da-morte/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Docclumencia%26hl%3Den&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhj60aoyroOW9jtdXlmElrTpWk0hhg

AccioHP

December 30th, 2009, 7:44 pm

I only know what the boat house looks like from the order of the phoenix video game lol It is cool though

decarus

December 30th, 2009, 7:51 pm

It was significant because he was killed in the place where he was almost killed once before. IMHO, that was the reason for the Shack being chosen, as well as it being off of the Hogwarts grounds.

However, in the films the plot/character thread of the werewolf incident isn't mentioned so the Shack holds no significance to Snape's character in the films.

I understand what you are saying i am just not sure that i find that all that interesting. I think what is important is that the trio be able to overhear them talking and that the snake kill Snape, so that he is still able to give Harry his memories before he dies.

MasterOfDeath

December 30th, 2009, 8:02 pm

I never thought about it but Hogwarts does need a boat house. Where elese do all those boats that sail the first years across the lake dock? I believe we do enter a cavern in PS/SS when Harry first arrives at Hogwarts. They get out of the boats onto a rocky grounded cavern built under the mountain of the castle.

I like this better than the tower idea certaintly. I never quite understood how nobody here noticed that having Voldemort WITHIN Hogwarts while the battle was going defeated the whole purpose of fighting to keep him out.....

I would have liked the have kept the shreicking shack location but still Snape's backstory has been so severely cut down in the films, I suppose it dosen't matter. As long as the scene is as tense and dramatic as in the book. I guess a boat house could be visually stunning.

AccioHP

December 30th, 2009, 8:07 pm

LordThingy

December 30th, 2009, 8:25 pm

boushh

December 30th, 2009, 8:32 pm

I understand what you are saying i am just not sure that i find that all that interesting. I think what is important is that the trio be able to overhear them talking and that the snake kill Snape, so that he is still able to give Harry his memories before he dies.

I wasn't really talking about whether it was interesting or not, just why it was possibly chosen. Any place could have been chosen if the trio was needed to overhear what was going on... though if I remember right, we see much of it through Harry peering through a crack in the wall and later through Harry's connection to Voldemort. Either way it could have been anywhere if the trio overhearing was the only thing that needed to happen, but the Shack was used in the books which has a connection to the character who is killed in the scene. That Snape had a connection to the Shack from his past adds a layer of meaning to the scene regardless of whether one finds it interesting or not, IMHO.

I had hoped the films would find a place that holds added significance beyond convenience for the trio to overhear. For the films, I still feel the Astronomy Tower is the best location, if they have chosen not to use the Shrieking Shack. While the boat docks might look interesting or moody I don't know that there will be any significance to the location beyond that, unless something is brought up in the last two films. The Astronomy Tower has a gap where one can peer through and see the action, as we have already seen, so that would work in a practical sense that will provide good visuals that aren't confusing, plus it would be significant to the characters.

MoD I understand what you're saying and it makes sense to have him be outside the castle walls, but I still would rather it not be a random location that we haven't even seen before. Maybe they'll come up with a use for the docks before this moment, I don't know.

As for Voldemort being in the Astronomy tower while everyone is trying to keep him out It might be creepy for the audience and the trio to learn that he's right there and not fighting... just waiting for Harry, which is essentially what he was doing in the book, just in the Shrieking Shack.

TreacleTartlet

December 30th, 2009, 8:45 pm

boushh

December 30th, 2009, 9:00 pm

Sacred_Memories

December 31st, 2009, 5:37 am

The boathouse would look absolutely mesmerizing, but won't it seem just a bit too random? I wouldn't mind it at all if it's shown in Deathly Hallows 1.

Actually, it probably will be shown in DH1.

decarus

December 31st, 2009, 1:26 pm

I do agree though a boat house does seem an odd place to kill off Snape just because it has never been seen before in any of the films. It would be better to just have him killed in the forest or in Hogsmeade then in some random place. Somewhere recognizable.

mjhaners

December 31st, 2009, 1:59 pm

I really don't care that much about where he'll die as long as it'll make sense and its delivered perfectly well with the correct feel.

AccioHP

December 31st, 2009, 4:17 pm

I'm trying to jog my memory here: when Harry goes to the Shrieking Shack does he know that's where Voldemort or Snape is? What makes him go there?

I wonder what'll make him go to the boat house (if that's true).

decarus

December 31st, 2009, 6:19 pm

The trio goes there to try and kill the snake because it is the last horcrux. They go there because that is where Voldemort is at. Harry sees Voldemort send Lucius Malfoy to get Snape.

Bscorp

December 31st, 2009, 8:39 pm

Hmmm.... I don't see how having Voldemort inside Hogwarts in either the Astronomy Tower or the boathouse works along with Harry taking his walk though the Forest after seeing Snape's memories. Unless they have Voldemort retreating to the Forest. Looking at it from this point of view the Shack works best for me as I don't see Voldemort as the type to retreat.

Actually if you recall, In the book Voldemort does stop the battle and tell his Death Eaters to retreat. He lays on some schtick about "you have all fought bravely, " blah blah then he taunt Harry and calls him a coward for hiding and lays down his ultimate to Harry to "end" the war; give hismelf up and save everyone else. So for the movie, it would be as simple as the trio— wherever they are when Snape dies— hearing Voldemort doing his megaphone spell and ending up his little speech with something like... "Potter, I will wait for you in the forest..." the way he did in the book. From there it's just Harry separating from the trip and going up to the castle, and a jump cut to him sneaking into Dumbledore's office.

The other option for Snape's memories of course is if they don't do the pensive at all and just have Snape transfer his memories to Harry directly through some kind reverse legilmens spell, if Snape can communicate to him - to "Look at me" and Harry's instinct tells him to read his mind. He and Harry have entered eachother's minds before so that wouldn't be a totally foreign concept. But I sure hope they don't go this way, I thought the image of Severus bleeding his all white ( soul) memories out to Harry was incredibly moving and would make amazing visual in the movie.