Way Ahead for Deathly Hallows Movie(s)

Well they've been working on these films for such a long time. They want to make the best Harry Potter films. I hope they are going to be as good as they seem to be.


Well Voldemort dies the same way. But there's more action yes.
I know that they exchange spells and Voldemort wreaks havoc. The last moment, where their spells collide is going to feel like the ultimate moment everyone's been waiting for. As they collide, the floors cracks and breaks, everyone runs away to escape from the destruction, everything collapses around them and this sequence will have a magnificent landscape. Dark red colours in the sky and Hogwarts tower ruins in the background. Imagine the Great Hall half-destroyed, Voldemort and Harry fighting in the middle and this beautiful landscape surrounding them. I think and hope this will be a really great moment.

And another one. Sounds amazing, yet again.

:agree: :agree: :agree:

The visuals in Cuaron's film made Hogwarts feel even more more magical and enchanting to me. :)



Somebody remind me how the layout of the castle in the first two films is 'more accurate to the books'. :hmm: Because there isn't a map of Hogwarts anywhere in the books and we have to rely on the author's descriptions ... and, frankly, I can never remember the geography of Hogwarts anyway.

The feel of the castle is perfect. :tu:

In the first Ultimate Edition, Stuart Craig comments on how he didn't like Hogwarts in the first film, he said "in some respects, we [he] failed." So he added to the castle in the third film to get an iconic sillhouette he wanted.

I'm quite liking these posts from Dream_Silently. The movie sounds great!

In the first Ultimate Edition, Stuart Craig comments on how he didn't like Hogwarts in the first film, he said "in some respects, we [he] failed." So he added to the castle in the third film to get an iconic sillhouette he wanted.

I'm quite liking these posts from Dream_Silently. The movie sounds great!
I know! Me too! Someone should make a signature that says "I Believe in Dream_Silently" (a play off on I Believe in Harvey Dent :P ).
Oh, and would anyone else mind posting there, what color Tonk's hair will be? I posted it, and he did not answer. I don't want to seem like a pest, and this would be something that would be really nice to know. Thanks if you can!

I know! Me too! Someone should make a signature that says "I Believe in Dream_Silently" (a play off on I Believe in Harvey Dent :P ).


I agree with you with the signature.. SO someone there who has skills in making designs make a "I Believe in Dream_Silently" design :D plz

A little bit on camping in this article (http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/dan-radcliffe-david-barron-talk-deathly-hallows-location-camping-filming-70588/). Not that interesting, but no snow camping scenes it says.

As much as I would love to see all of this turn out to be true, Dream Silently has given us nothing but his word to confirm that he indeed has insider information. I'd rather not get my hopes up with all of this excitement and then find out that his posts were nothing more than an elaborate joke intended to tease gullible fans. Try to be as neutral as possible with this, guys.I know what you mean. But it's just so much fun to discuss these spoilers. And so far, a lot of what dream has told us has been kind of confirmed via the DH trailer on the HBP BD or via comments and interviews from cast and crew.


If true, I guess that sorta answers my longtime questions/wonderings about how they were going to pull off the Battle of Hogwarts with the current layout of the castle...they are simply going to change it, again :lol: It's both irritating and amusing how they just makes changes to the castle each film to suit their needs :rolleyes: Hey, it's magic after all. :lol:

The way Jo wrote it is so cinematic. And I may end up ultimately thanking the filmmakers for cutting the miniature Battle of Hogwarts from HBP cause doing so might allow the Battle in this finale to seem fresh and unique. I just hope they take advantage of the variety they have available and use it wisely. I don't want a repeat of Helm's Deep (great battle but ultimetely the sword clashing and arrow shooting gets dull :p) so lets see more than just wand waving. I so so so hope the Battle will be visually fascinating and emotionally engaging. It has to blow us off our feet. I am not that much into action in the first place, so it's important that it's well done. Otherwise it might share the fate of Helm's Deep. I have yet to see that battle, because I have up to date fallen asleep every time I watched the Two Towers.


30-40 minutes of pure battles sounds a bit much, but it depends on how they do it. I hope they use a variety of spells and magic and not have five spells causing the same effect like in OotP. Each action sequence should feel refreshing and visual appealing and different from each other. Otherwise it might simple feel as boring and endless filler when the plot (hope they fix some loose ends here) might in reality have taken a backseat to those scenes. It should be interesting to see the "new look" of Hogwarts and experience what seems like one of the most epic fantasy battles in movie history, unless it's too family-friendly and thus ends up like "Prince Caspian" or if the editor Mark Day decides to cut it down :lol:
30 - 40 minutes pure action is a lot, IMO. But then again, if it's well done, time will fly by. I only hope they don't cut down on the other, IMO more important stuff - i.e. Snape's death, Snape's memories, Hogsmeade sequence with Aberforth, Harry's walk into the Forest, King's Cross - just to include more action sequences.

Seems like we're also getting to see the Snape vs. McGonagall fight?

I hope we see a lot of McGonagall. She's one of my favourite characters and some of her most amazing scenes have been cut or altered (i.e. her snarky exchanges with Umbridge). I just don't know how Dame Maggie is doing health-wise. I hope she's better now.

can't wait to see more of mcgonagall in dh!!

DH, rumor has it, will capture the same essence as HBP
It will probably start with a flashback to Dumbledore falling off the tower.
Yates has some new unique camera angles that he used for the whore falling and we won’t see all that in HBP. In HBP there will be 4-5 seconds of the falling while in DH there will be more.

After Dumbledore falling there will be a shot of the dark mark and a panoramic shot of the body lying alone on the grass as we go to the clouds and the title appears inside the dark mark….

It cuts to death eaters and snape at spinner’s end apparating. They are black smoke again and fly in the clouds which have lots of rain revealing Malfoy manor in some dark countryside.
Then snape tells Voldemort all about the order’s plans. charity Burbage indeed dies but yaxley isn’t there to speak with snape in the beginning. Rumor has it bella will be with snape.. So on the harrypotterforum this guy Chris potter asked dream to confirm the above. I wonder if it's true

can't wait to see more of mcgonagall in dh!!

DH, rumor has it, will capture the same essence as HBP
It will probably start with a flashback to Dumbledore falling off the tower.
Yates has some new unique camera angles that he used for the whore falling and we won’t see all that in HBP. In HBP there will be 4-5 seconds of the falling while in DH there will be more.

After Dumbledore falling there will be a shot of the dark mark and a panoramic shot of the body lying alone on the grass as we go to the clouds and the title appears inside the dark mark….

It cuts to death eaters and snape at spinner’s end apparating. They are black smoke again and fly in the clouds which have lots of rain revealing Malfoy manor in some dark countryside.
Then snape tells Voldemort all about the order’s plans. charity Burbage indeed dies but yaxley isn’t there to speak with snape in the beginning. Rumor has it bella will be with snape.. So on the harrypotterforum this guy Chris potter asked dream to confirm the above. I wonder if it's true
That would be an awesome opening. But I think Yates is getting redundant with starting the new movie with footage from the previous one (note HBP's opening)

That would be an awesome opening. But I think Yates is getting redundant with starting the new movie with footage from the previous one (note HBP's opening)

Technically, it was new footage of Dumbledore escorting Harry away from the reporters.

Technically, it was new footage of Dumbledore escorting Harry away from the reporters.

It seems like they re-shot some footage from Dumbledore's death too.

Technically, it was new footage of Dumbledore escorting Harry away from the reporters.
But it is supposed to be happening then, so I still consider it "OotP".

As much as I want to believe in Dream, and I really really want to, we won't really know if he is telling the truth until the first film hits. I hope his is legit but I'm going to hold off on a declaration for now :p

-JR

Oh, we'll find out much sooner if he is a fraud or not. We discovered SCOOP was false about a month or so before the first HBP trailer came out, if I'm not mistaken.

I'm loving everything I'm hearing from dream_silently, but I'm perhaps wiser now after the HBP wait. I'm going to be cautious. It'd be really awesome if he were the real deal, but he might not be. It could go either way. It may seem more likely that he's legit but some of these guys are really good at what they do.

I recommend just remaining cautious. You don't want to be severely let-down. Just in case, as Dumbledore would put it. ;)

I agree. I am also remaining cautious. It does sort of ring true, but there is no way to know at this point and i will wait and see.

With the battle, do you think they'll do a whole cliche section where everything seems to be going wrong?
You know when your watching a huge battle sequence, and the enemies are starting to win. Theres some sad music and for that 1 minute it focuses mainly on the deaths and how the enemies are starting to win. But then something happens and the "good guys" come back with full strength and power.

Well, that's sorta how Jo wrote it anyways. :p They were at a disadvantage (not necessarily in numbers but skill) until Harry "died" (and thus his sacrifice rendered enemies spells virtually harmless, that love protection or whatever) and Sluggy returned with re-inforcements

The tide turned after that 1 hour ceasefire :)

Oh, we'll find out much sooner if he is a fraud or not. We discovered SCOOP was false about a month or so before the first HBP trailer came out, if I'm not mistaken.

I'm loving everything I'm hearing from dream_silently, but I'm perhaps wiser now after the HBP wait. I'm going to be cautious. It'd be really awesome if he were the real deal, but he might not be. It could go either way. It may seem more likely that he's legit but some of these guys are really good at what they do.

I recommend just remaining cautious. You don't want to be severely let-down. Just in case, as Dumbledore would put it. ;)

Yes, if he's not legit it won't be too long before we discover contradictions. Far as we know there haven't been any (other than the thing about Ginny being part of the fiendyre sequence, but he cleared that up) yet though, which is a good sign. The upcoming trailers will surely either confirm or deny the stuff dream has been saying, in addition to potential script leaks, other interviews with the cast and crew, etc.

I wish he'd give us some solid proof NOW though (like a callsheet or something) like Phoenix123 and Wild_World or what's his name did...

The upcoming trailers will surely either confirm or deny the stuff dream has been saying, in addition to potential script leaks, other interviews with the cast and crew, etc.

Man I am longing for some leaks! There haven't been many offical leaks that WB has stepped in laid the smack down. Also, anyone know about when we should see a trailer? Typically?

-JR

Man I am longing for some leaks! There haven't been many offical leaks that WB has stepped in laid the smack down. Also, anyone know about when we should see a trailer? Typically?

-JR

Hmm well the OOTP teaser trailer was released about 8 months before it came out. I personally think we'll see an official teaser trailer sometime from early-mid spring.

Unless they pull another HBP on us and wait till mid-july. :grumble:

I think we should be looking out for/looking forward to the teaser poster at this point. That should be coming out in a month or so. It should be the first official promotion for the film. The teaser posters for HBP were awesome, so I'm actually looking forward to the DH ones.

Yeah, trailer won't be out until either May, June or (if they want to torture us once again :grumble:) July. :p I'm hoping there's fewer trailers this time. There were just too many trailers for HBP. :lol: I'm fine with knowing facts about the movie adaptation (scenes they changed, what made the final cut, etc) but I'd much rather actually SEE most of the finished film on opening night, in the cinema.

Does anyone remember when the first trailers for PS/SS and COS came out?

I know the first teaser trailer for GOF came out in early May and that movie came out in November.

I feel like it's going to seem Like such a long wait until we get a trailer lol

I think we should be looking out for/looking forward to the teaser poster at this point. That should be coming out in a month or so. It should be the first official promotion for the film. The teaser posters for HBP were awesome, so I'm actually looking forward to the DH ones.

Man I hope we get a teaser trailer for HBP soon and some official posters as well! Do you think they considered the "first look" on the HBP DVD as the first teaser trailer???

-JR

Yeah, that DH first look was definitely a teaser trailer, IMO.

New post by deam_silently:

Well I think these scenes with Harry haven't been shot completely. Parts of them have been filmed though.
I know that Daniel Radcliffe cries during the sequence. And I also know that the scene where he sees his parents, Sirius and Lupin in the forest, as well as the scene with Dumbledore will be extremely emotional. So overall, these scenes, along with the walking at the castle and its grounds and Snape's memories will be a powerful and emotional part of the film and I think it will be a great 'break' between the two parts of the Hogwarts Battle.
I really hope Daniel is convincing in this scene with seeing his parents, Sirius & Lupin again. It was the most emotional part of the book for me, and I really hope he is able to pull it off.
Man I am going to be crushed if this Dream_Silently guys turns out to be a fake. All the stuff he is saying is so cool and man o man do i hope it is all true. This film is going to be EPIC! :D

-JR
Me too. Everything he's been saying just sounds so epic! A little too epic *lol*. It all sounds absolutely amazing though.

I hope they don't do the Hogwarts battle all in one. I hope it's kind of broken up. I think that would be better.
Man I can't wait for this movie!!

The most recent posts of this guy about what the Great Hall looks like and the battle between LV & Harry sound pretty cool to me. I think I like the idea of there being more to their final confrontation. I hope it's true.

can't wait to see more of mcgonagall in dh!!


It cuts to death eaters and snape at spinner’s end apparating. They are black smoke again and fly in the clouds which have lots of rain revealing Malfoy manor in some dark countryside.
Then snape tells Voldemort all about the order’s plans. charity Burbage indeed dies but yaxley isn’t there to speak with snape in the beginning. Rumor has it bella will be with snape.. So on the harrypotterforum this guy Chris potter asked dream to confirm the above. I wonder if it's true

This seems odd. Why would the have them apparate to Spinner's End only to have them leave again? It seems pointless.

I think we should be looking out for/looking forward to the teaser poster at this point. That should be coming out in a month or so. It should be the first official promotion for the film. The teaser posters for HBP were awesome, so I'm actually looking forward to the DH ones.

Yeah, trailer won't be out until either May, June or (if they want to torture us once again :grumble:) July. :p I'm hoping there's fewer trailers this time. There were just too many trailers for HBP. :lol: I'm fine with knowing facts about the movie adaptation (scenes they changed, what made the final cut, etc) but I'd much rather actually SEE most of the finished film on opening night, in the cinema.

Does anyone remember when the first trailers for PS/SS and COS came out?

I know the first teaser trailer for GOF came out in early May and that movie came out in November.

I think you're right.

So, what does everyone think the first teaser poster might be of? I think a picture of the locket might be cool for DH 1.

As for DH 2, I think the doors of Gringotts should be shown opening and then at the bottom of the poster, I think it should say "Like I said, yeh'd be mad ter try an' rob it."
I also think it would be cool if it had a picture of the diadem then at the bottom of the poster, it said "Wit Beyond Measure is A Man's Greatest Treasure" (I got this idea from a fan poster :lol: )

So what do you guys think?

First teaser poster?
Hmm, I think it will be the normal posters these days. The trio and/or more of the cast posing with great landscapes behind them.

Honestly, for the first poster. I would love it to be of the Silver Doe :D

First teaser poster?
Hmm, I think it will be the normal posters these days. The trio and/or more of the cast posing with great landscapes behind them.

Honestly, for the first poster. I would love it to be of the Silver Doe :D

I think the first teaser poster will be something similar to one of the first teaser posters for HBP; just Harry:

http://screencrave.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/teaser_potter2.jpg

As for a silver doe poster, check out this fan-made poster:

http://www.shockya.com/news/wp-content/uploads/harry_potter_and_the_deathly_hallows_movie_poster. jpg

Edit: I think the silver doe poster is fan-made. I don't remember Warner Bros releasing a teaser poster.

Edit # 2: I did a quick google search and a lot of sites say WB released the silver doe poster in late 2008. Can anyone confirm this?

Edit # 3: Nevermind, it's fan-made. :lol:

I've always liked that fan made poster of the silver doe. I would like to see an official version along the same lines of that one, though i don't buy posters, but still pretty cool as posters go.

For part 1, as it is a road movie, I think the Trio outside cold and freezing might work well. The bottom of the poster would have the tagline "Once again, I must ask too much of you Harry."

Part 2 is divided: one side is Hallows, one is Horcruxes. "Soon we must all face the choice between what is right...and what is easy."

As for a silver doe poster, check out this fan-made poster:

http://www.shockya.com/news/wp-content/uploads/harry_potter_and_the_deathly_hallows_movie_poster. jpg

Edit: I think the silver doe poster is fan-made. I don't remember Warner Bros releasing a teaser poster.

Edit # 2: I did a quick google search and a lot of sites say WB released the silver doe poster in late 2008. Can anyone confirm this?

Edit # 3: Nevermind, it's fan-made. :lol:

:rotfl:

Yeah, I saw that many months ago and thought it was real too. I love it though, it's probably the best fan made poster I've seen to date :tu:


I don't have much clue as to when we might get the next trailer (I'd say what was on the HBP DVD was a teaser trailer so...) but in regards to JR's comments about leaks, I've read that Phoenix123 won't be leaking any script until after filming wraps, which is when now? June? :sigh:

I've always loved that Silver Doe poster aswell.

I hope the Deathly Hallows teaser poster/posters are original. Don't get me wrong, I LOVE the Half Blood Prince posters. But in terms of originality they could have done alot more.
I think one of my favourite teaser posters is the Goblet of Fire one. The one with Harry standing on the edge of the stadium with the huge white lights in front of him.

Do you think they'll incorporate the DH symbol onto the posters?

Do you think they'll incorporate the DH symbol onto the posters?

I'd imagine so, either as a big part of the poster, or maybe a small part at the bottom.

Here (http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/2010/01/10/exclusive-harry-potter-star-daniel-radcliffe-on-the-final-film-s-scottish-adventures-86908-21956141/) is a link to an article featured on Mugglenet with Dan talking about camping in Scotland. There is reference to the decision being made to not shoot outside due to the snow and do more indoor shooting to include stuff in the Great Hall and the final showdown between Harry and LV.

This is very much along the lines of what Dream has been telling us about what has been shot lately. The article date is the 10th so the information gathered was probably done last last week most likely...so I think this kinda lends credence to Dreams posts...am I right??

-JR

Can anyone who belongs to the harrypotterforum ask dream if Harry calls voldemort Tom in the final duel

What's the link to the site? I'd liked to ask him whether or not we will see which train Harry chooses at King's Cross. If we don't see it they can trick the non-readers to believe that Harry is dead and thus make them feel more sad.

What's the link to the site? I'd liked to ask him whether or not we will see which train Harry chooses at King's Cross. If we don't see it they can trick the non-readers to believe that Harry is dead and thus make them feel more sad.

Here's the link:

http://www.harrypotterforum.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=1095&page=1#Item_0 (http://www.harrypotterforum.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=1095&page=1#Item_0)

What's the link to the site? I'd liked to ask him whether or not we will see which train Harry chooses at King's Cross. If we don't see it they can trick the non-readers to believe that Harry is dead and thus make them feel more sad.

When does he choose a train in the book? :hmm:

Sorry to butt in here, but I was just wondering if anyone knew whether or not the character of Charlie Weasley would be appearing in the film? Does anyone have any particular feelings about him being cast, or whether or not he shows up at all? Just curious....

Alex Crockford has been cast as Charlie Weasley

http://www.veritaserum.com/movies/actors/images/alexcrockford.JPG

He was featured in the Weasley family portrait in Prisoner of Azkaban so I guess he's not new to the series. I think he'll have a very minor role. He'll be at Bill's wedding and maybe at the battle of Hogwarts.

I don't think it can be considered a teaser trailer...an announcement trailer is more like it since it contains footage from both films.
There should be an entire new teaser trailer for DH part 1.
I bloody well hope so!

I would think it isn't a teaser trailer until it is released in theaters. I think it is just the DH sneak peek, so we probably still have a teaser trailer to look forward to.

When does he choose a train in the book? :hmm:

He doesn't, I think it was meant metaphorically... :whistle:

Harry was given a choice between going on to the afterlife and returning to the real world

Someone should make a signature that says "I Believe in Dream_Silently" (a play off on I Believe in Harvey Dent :P ).

Glad to see my sig is catching on, at least I think I was first, oh well...

On-topic: Thanks for the dream_silently info I keep checking for new posts but apparently I need to go to a different thread.

Interesting bit about the set of Malfoy Manor :hmm:

Man I am going to be crushed if this Dream_Silently guys turns out to be a fake. All the stuff he is saying is so cool and man o man do i hope it is all true. This film is going to be EPIC! :D

-JR

This.

I would think it isn't a teaser trailer until it is released in theaters. I think it is just the DH sneak peek, so we probably still have a teaser trailer to look forward to.

Hmm, maybe. If so, I hope it's coming soon :drool:


P.S. sweet sig pic you guys made for the DH list :cool:

Thanks to 9th Wonder for the signature picture for the list. Looks great.

I hope we get something new soon, but we are still quite awhile away from the release of the film. They do sometimes release teasers pretty early. We can hope.

PS. I hope it isn't all the same footage from the sneak peek. They do that sometimes.

Maybe in March in front of Alice InWonderland?

I know it's pretty early, but you never know.

As for what movie it might be in front of I posted this before- http://www.cosforums.com/showpost.php?p=5468957&postcount=1952

And here's the dates for those films...

Percy Jackson- February 12th
Clash of the Titans- March 26th
Jonah Hex -June 18th

Other films I think a trailer could be attached to-

Iron Man 2- May 7th
Robin Hood- May 14th
Twilight: Eclipse- June 30th
The Last Airbender- July 2nd
Inception- July 16th
The Scorceror's Apprentice- July 16th

The only one that is a WB film is Inception but I'd say the others are possible too since the audience for each should have sorta a common interest. And afterall, there was a HBP trailer with the last Twilight.


Well, look what else I found...

No, for a teaser especially it's not at all necessary for them to be completely done with filming. Teaser trailers are typically released a year or more in advance. However, with Potter they do seem to release them quite a bit later. I dug up the release dates for those I could find-

HBP- July 29th, 2008 (less than 4 months before original Nov. 21st release date/nearly 1 YEAR before actual July 17th release)

OotP- Nov. 20th, 2006 (approx. 8 months before)

GoF- May 7th, 2005 (approx. 6 months before)

PoA- Nov. 12th, 2003 (approx. 7 months before)

CoS- seems there was no teaser :hmm:

SS/PS- Feb. 29th, 2001 (8 1/2 months before)


And we all know HBP had unusual circumstances... :relax:

But disregarding that one we can see that they have released teaser trailers somewhere between 6 to 9 months before the films release.

So assuming this trend continues we should expect it in March of 2010 at the earliest and May of 2010 at the latest. However, as with HBP we should at least be getting some sort of DH sneak peek, preview, or whatever you want to call it...with the HBP DVD this December. :tu:

Here's another old post I recalled making back when all this was discussed during HBP :lol:

Teaser Trailer release info (http://www.cosforums.com/showpost.php?p=5019338&postcount=289)

And just for kicks, the "Theatrical Trailers"-http://www.cosforums.com/showpost.php?p=5019692&postcount=312


Note they tend to place the trailers before their own films...though with the insane amount of trailers for HBP this trend was broken somewhat. I don't think the teaser was even with a WB film...wasn't Mummy 3?

And of course we were wrong time and time again when waiting for that one. :lol: We were so naive thinking a teaser trailer for HBP was going to be with 10,000 B.C. I remember a bunch of us staying up all night waiting for people to return home from the theatre and post it online and it never happened, which shouldn't have been a surprise since WB never announced that it would :lol: Well, now we know that when it comes to the teaser trailers at least we can be pretty certain that WB will announce it ahead of time. There was a few later trailers that were complete "surprises" but if I recall correctly those were released online first. Actually they were all released online first, weren't they? Yeah they were, I recall the article about the satellite transmision for the teaser trailer even. They broadcast it online before it hits theatres.

It would have been nice to view a proper PT I teaser before Percy Jackson, since its director, Chris Colombus, did the first two Potter films. Did the castle shown in Percy Jackson's first trailer remind anyone else of Hogwarts in Movies 1 and 2? Heh.

It would have been nice to view a proper PT I teaser before Percy Jackson, since its director, Chris Colombus, did the first two Potter films. Did the castle shown in Percy Jackson's first trailer remind anyone else of Hogwarts in Movies 1 and 2? Heh.

I think you have your tenses wrong there....you mean "would be nice?" Or am I mistaken...has it already been released? :hmm:

And yeah, I did. :lol: Knowing nothing about that movie at the time, I was rolling my eyes at what I thought was this "HP ripoff" when I saw the trailer before HBP :lol: The trailer for Fame (http://www.getthebigpicture.net/blog/2009/7/14/fame-trailer-goes-for-the-harry-potter-crowd.html) was even worse though. :rolleyes:

Anyone else irritated with others trying to take advantage of HP's success? LAME :relax:

I'm still holding out for Alice in Wonderland.

It's a WB film and it has a few actors from the HP films. (Alan Rickman, Helena Nonham Carter, Timothy Spall)

I'm still holding out for Alice in Wonderland.

It's a WB film and it has a few actors from the HP films. (Alan Rickman, Helena Nonham Carter, Timothy Spall)

It is? :huh: I thought it was Disney...

If that's true though, then yeah I could see it being a possibility

Hmm, maybe. If so, I hope it's coming soon :drool:


P.S. sweet sig pic you guys made for the DH list :cool:

Thanks :cool:

And Alice in Wonderland is a Disney film.



Looks like we might need a new thread soon. Isn't the cut-off usually around 2500 posts?

I think you have your tenses wrong there....you mean "would be nice?" Or am I mistaken...has it already been released? :hmm:

And yeah, I did. :lol: Knowing nothing about that movie at the time, I was rolling my eyes at what I thought was this "HP ripoff" when I saw the trailer before HBP :lol: The trailer for Fame (http://www.getthebigpicture.net/blog/2009/7/14/fame-trailer-goes-for-the-harry-potter-crowd.html) was even worse though. :rolleyes:

Anyone else irritated with others trying to take advantage of HP's success? LAME :relax:

Well, I'm almost certain that it won't be, because February is too early. So, it would have been nice since I don't want to wait any longer, but realistically speaking, I don't think that it will happen at all. I'm just judging it by my general knowledge of when teasers are normally released, though.

Whenever the teaser comes, I hope it's really soon lol

Thanks :cool:

And Alice in Wonderland is a Disney film.



Looks like we might need a new thread soon. Isn't the cut-off usually around 2500 posts?

Arghhh *smacks head* it is a Disney film. I am at a loss to what made me think it was a WB film.

It would be nice to have it before Alice in Wonderland. That would make the movie so much more epic. But I hope we do get "good" footage in the trailer, like a clip of Xeno, a glimpse of Dobby, a shot of Tonks, etc. If it is basically a running and camping segment with Harry Potter characters thrown in I will flip.

It would be nice to have it before Alice in Wonderland. That would make the movie so much more epic. But I hope we do get "good" footage in the trailer, like a clip of Xeno, a glimpse of Dobby, a shot of Tonks, etc. If it is basically a running and camping segment with Harry Potter characters thrown in I will flip.

Well I thought the first teaser (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptkN5Ur3VrI) for HBP was really good. I'm sure they won't disappoint for DH. I think the first teaser will have bits from a lot of the action sequences.

I want some silver doe scene, some of the trio in the ministry, and something of Dobby even though i am not a big fan. I hope they don't give away all of the action and show Ginny and Harry kiss in like every trailer. Though you never really get the feel of the film until you see it with dialogue and all.

PS. That was a great first trailer.

I want some silver doe scene, some of the trio in the ministry, and something of Dobby even though i am not a big fan. I hope they don't give away all of the action and show Ginny and Harry kiss in like every trailer. Though you never really get the feel of the film until you see it with dialogue and all.

PS. That was a great first trailer.

Do you think they'll focus more on the horcruxes or the hallows in the teaser? Or not really one in paticular?

Do you think they'll focus more on the horcruxes or the hallows in the teaser? Or not really one in particular?
They will probably focus on something unimportant :D. Like basically HBP hardly had anything to do with Snape compared to the book (well that was the film not the trailer). I am guessing it will be a bunch of Rita and Scrimgeour.

I'm not complaining about more Scrimgeour, lol. Bill Nighy's voice is just as distinctive and incredible as Alan Rickman's voice for Snape. I hope he uses his slightly sharp accent from Underworld (Viktor) for Scrimgeour.

I'm not complaining about more Scrimgeour, lol. Bill Nighy's voice is just as distinctive and incredible as Alan Rickman's voice for Snape. I hope he uses his slightly sharp accent from Underworld (Viktor) for Scrimgeour.
I have never seen that movie. Could someone please post a clip? His Davy Jones voice would be nice IMO.

EDIT:
Found one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWQ49Mc-cbI). Sounds like Davy Jones to me :)

Davy Jones has that sharpness to it, but it's definitely more Scottish than his Viktor voice.

Davy Jones has that sharpness to it, but it's definitely more Scottish than his Viktor voice.
I think Scrimgeour should be Scottish :)

I think Scrimgeour should be Scottish :)

I agree! Give me a Scrimgeour that is part Victor part Davey Jones! :D

-JR

Do you think they'll focus more on the horcruxes or the hallows in the teaser? Or not really one in paticular?

I think the sneak peek sort of focused on the hallows a little bit. I would like the next one to focus on the horcruxes some. I would imagine they would have some dialogue about the horcruxes and they could show them searching for the locket.

Then we could get some of Dobby, the ministry, and the silver doe which are all searches for the locket. Assuming that they are going to use Dobby to help search for the locket or for Kreacher which i guess we don't know for certain.

I think the sneak peek sort of focused on the hallows a little bit. I would like the next one to focus on the horcruxes some. I would imagine they would have some dialogue about the horcruxes and they could show them searching for the locket.

Then we could get some of Dobby, the ministry, and the silver doe which are all searches for the locket. Assuming that they are going to use Dobby to help search for the locket or for Kreacher which i guess we don't know for certain.

I think the theatrical should focus on the horcruxes. They are much more essential to the story. The hallows weren't as important as everyone has made them out to be.

I'm anxiously and nervously awaiting to see what they do/don't do with "The Prince's Tale." I hope they will give it enough time to show what happened, however, from past scenes, I'm not holding out much hope.

Do you think they'll focus more on the horcruxes or the hallows in the teaser? Or not really one in particular?

Well for the DH Sneak Peek, it seemed to focus more on the Hallows. Especially the dialogue.
I think talk of three items which makes the user immortal could interest people. But with flashes, I have a feeling we'll see more of the horcruxes. Some of the horcrux scenes will make the trailers very, very exciting :D

I'm anxiously and nervously awaiting to see what they do/don't do with "The Prince's Tale." I hope they will give it enough time to show what happened, however, from past scenes, I'm not holding out much hope.

I agree. They have made a huge case against Snape in the films where he has always been assumed to be the bad guy (seeing it in visuals seems to be more convincing then just reading about him) and when audiences see someone shown in a bad light for multiple films they just assume he will be the bad guy despite how unlikely it is. In HBP, those unsuspecting audience members got their pay-off when Snape killed Dumbledore. I think they will have to go to significant lengths to prove without a doubt to those same audience members that Snape is WITH the Order and always had been.

-JR

I agree. They have made a huge case against Snape in the films where he has always been assumed to be the bad guy (seeing it in visuals seems to be more convincing then just reading about him) and when audiences see someone shown in a bad light for multiple films they just assume he will be the bad guy despite how unlikely it is. In HBP, those unsuspecting audience members got their pay-off when Snape killed Dumbledore. I think they will have to go to significant lengths to prove without a doubt to those same audience members that Snape is WITH the Order and always had been.

-JR

I don't know about significant lengths (at least at this point). I know several people who came out of viewing HBP wondering what was up with Snape and Snape vs Dumbledore, rather than feeling that Snape was evil without a doubt. Still, I hope they do a good job with TPT and it doesn't last all of 2 minutes.

In HBP, those unsuspecting audience members got their pay-off when Snape killed Dumbledore. I think they will have to go to significant lengths to prove without a doubt to those same audience members that Snape is WITH the Order and always had been.

I know several people who came out of viewing HBP wondering what was up with Snape and Snape vs Dumbledore, rather than feeling that Snape was evil without a doubt. Still, I hope they do a good job with TPT and it doesn't last all of 2 minutes.

I think the movies, like the books, have succeeded in giving a variety of ideas about Snape to the viewers. Which is good.

However, I would disagree they have painted him blacker in the movies than the books did. Movie!Snape is known to have committed only one real crime, the "murder" of Albus Dumbledore. While we know he was a DE from GoF, we also know of absolutely nothing that he did as one (except possibly, if we believe Albus, serve the good guys as a spy). Whereas in the books, of course, we had the bombshell that he was responsible for arousing Voldemort's interest in Harry and thus, to a certain degree, responsible for the deaths of Harry's parents.

And it is precisely the "murder" of Albus that is easy to clear Snape of, because is it simply a matter of acquainting us with the true facts. Just show us the man saving Albus's life, and accepting his role in Albus's death with great reluctance (a reluctance already displayed prominently in the HBP movie). It is the earlier DE crimes that are harder to handle, because there it is not a matter of exonerating Snape. He is guilty. The author/filmmakers must achieve the harder task of convinving us of the sincerity and depth of Snape's remorse. But in the movies, we do not know any of these crimes, so it would be easy to overlook.

Though I do hope that they try to convey this part of the story anyway, it is my favorite thing in all HP. :sigh:

I think the movies, like the books, have succeeded in giving a variety of ideas about Snape to the viewers. Which is good.

However, I would disagree they have painted him blacker in the movies than the books did. Movie!Snape is known to have committed only one real crime, the "murder" of Albus Dumbledore. While we know he was a DE from GoF, we also know of absolutely nothing that he did as one (except possibly, if we believe Albus, serve the good guys as a spy). Whereas in the books, of course, we had the bombshell that he was responsible for arousing Voldemort's interest in Harry and thus, to a certain degree, responsible for the deaths of Harry's parents.

And it is precisely the "murder" of Albus that is easy to clear Snape of, because is it simply a matter of acquainting us with the true facts. Just show us the man saving Albus's life, and accepting his role in Albus's death with great reluctance (a reluctance already displayed prominently in the HBP movie). It is the earlier DE crimes that are harder to handle, because there it is not a matter of exonerating Snape. He is guilty. The author/filmmakers must achieve the harder task of convinving us of the sincerity and depth of Snape's remorse. But in the movies, we do not know any of these crimes, so it would be easy to overlook.

Though I do hope that they try to convey this part of the story anyway, it is my favorite thing in all HP. :sigh:

Very good points, but I'm not so sure the films didn't paint "him blacker in the movies than the books did" as I have family and friends who have never read the books and only seen the movies. Not only did they not see Dumbledore's death coming, but they now hate Snape. Curious because their point of view is so different from mine since I have read the books endlessly, I asked them their feelings on Snape. They had pretty consistently liked the snarkiness of Rickman and his Snape, but after the death of Dumbledore, they now hate his character. I think they are coming from the perspective that Dumbledore was so good and for Snape to betray everyone and kill him, the leader of the good guys, is absolutely terrible. While this is in no way a scientific sampling of a movie audience, I think it is fair to say that people will need a clear explanation of Snape and Dumbledore's plan or they might not "get it." Hopefully the film makers realize this and take time to explain properly.

-JR

Very good points, but I'm not so sure the films didn't paint "him blacker in the movies than the books did" as I have family and friends who have never read the books and only seen the movies. Not only did they not see Dumbledore's death coming, but they now hate Snape. Curious because their point of view is so different from mine since I have read the books endlessly, I asked them their feelings on Snape. They had pretty consistently liked the snarkiness of Rickman and his Snape, but after the death of Dumbledore, they now hate his character. I think they are coming from the perspective that Dumbledore was so good and for Snape to betray everyone and kill him, the leader of the good guys, is absolutely terrible. While this is in no way a scientific sampling of a movie audience, I think it is fair to say that people will need a clear explanation of Snape and Dumbledore's plan or they might not "get it." Hopefully the film makers realize this and take time to explain properly.

As arithmancer said:

I think the movies, like the books, have succeeded in giving a variety of ideas about Snape to the viewers. Which is good.

Since JR and I have had family or friends come away from the film with different views, it is clear to me that they successfully set up the is Snape good or evil thing. That's what I wanted, so I was very happy to read the different reactions from non-book people because they were varied.

I have one friend who actually came up with several of the theories that fans had after book 6 came out, and that was with one viewing!

I also think it partly has to do with how deeply one looks into it because the clues that there is something going in with Snape are there in the film. Some people may be too shocked by Dumbledore's death to even consider that Snape may not be evil, while others try to deduce what is going on because something doesn't sit right with them. Different people, different reactions, which is a good thing. I think it would have been horrible if people were led step by step to one conclusion or the other about Snape.

One thing that I think DH might do is bring up more "evidence" that Snape is evil to the film audience, since they seem to be including George's ear and perhaps more. I just hope they balance that with the moments that also made one question if he truly was on the side of the bad guys.

One thing that I think DH might do is bring up more "evidence" that Snape is evil to the film audience, since they seem to be including George's ear and perhaps more. I just hope they balance that with the moments that also made one question if he truly was on the side of the bad guys.

I also am hoping that they will include some mixed scenes with Snape. I hope they will have some scenes with him seemingly ominous and "evil" along with one or two with some mitigated behavior- like going easy on Ginny, Neville and Luna. Readers of the book had the whole series of Snape's actions and words to consider and it all brought various conclusion based on how the reader read the books. The movies, I feel, have had much much less to work from in regards to Snape. So I hope Kloves/Yates still work some mystery around Snape's actions in DH both I & II to intrigue the undecided viewers up until the very end. If they just paint him pure black without some small seeds of Good!Snape that the audience can look back on, they might think that the whole "Oh, look see Dumbeldore planned it all along Snape = good" will feel like it came out of nowhere, ala "Dues Ex Machina".

According to Portkey (http://www.portkey.it/html/index.php), something is coming up in about an hour.

According to Portkey (http://www.portkey.it/html/index.php), something is coming up in about an hour.

Ahh!! I wonder what it is? Can anyone translate??

Ahh!! I wonder what it is? Can anyone translate??
"Tonight at around 21:00 a small and interesting exclusive on Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows"

"Tonight at around 21:00 a small and interesting exclusive on Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows"

Hmm interesting. Can't wait to see

I still even in the books am not buying that Snape is good. He was bad and did a lot of bad things and he flipped sides because of Lilly getting killed, but that doesn't mean he is good. He still treated Harry terribly and never wanted anyone to know that he cared about Lilly and i think the films are going to act like he did all this good by saving Harry which he didn't. He gave Harry the sword. He protected the students when he could. He told Harry he was a horcrux. That was about it.

"Tonight at around 21:00 a small and interesting exclusive on Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows"

This is strange.

What could it be that exclusive thing?

I still even in the books am not buying that Snape is good. He was bad and did a lot of bad things and he flipped sides because of Lilly getting killed, but that doesn't mean he is good. He still treated Harry terribly and never wanted anyone to know that he cared about Lilly and i think the films are going to act like he did all this good by saving Harry which he didn't. He gave Harry the sword. He protected the students when he could. He told Harry he was a horcrux. That was about it.

Perhaps your should take this to the Snape thread? :whistle:

Lame. Just pictures where we can barely even tell what it's supposed to be showing? Not worth putting up a notice on.

Nothing exclusive about those photos. Ithink it's just outside of leavesden

Sirius123 on harrypotterforum says more photos to come. Probably more of the same stuff though

Please do keep discussions on the character of Severus Snape confined to his thread, found here (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=122802). We're discussing the movies in here, guys, not if Snape was ultimately good or bad.

The rest of you, carry on. :D

I still even in the books am not buying that Snape is good. He was bad and did a lot of bad things and he flipped sides because of Lilly getting killed, but that doesn't mean he is good. He still treated Harry terribly and never wanted anyone to know that he cared about Lilly and i think the films are going to act like he did all this good by saving Harry which he didn't. He gave Harry the sword. He protected the students when he could. He told Harry he was a horcrux. That was about it.


In the film the most important thing is to explain that Snape wasn't evil, he loved Lily and deep down he loved Harry and he worked for Dumbledore. Seeing how many times he have saved Harry I find this believable.

EDIT: Mexicant, I didn't see your post before now so I hope I am not off topic.

Lame. Just pictures where we can barely even tell what it's supposed to be showing? Not worth putting up a notice on.

No kidding about the lameness...couldn't even tell what the heck they were pictures of...lol buidling in the distance at the studios :p

-JR

To clarify my last post: talking about how in DH, after the events which occurred in the HBP movie, they will convince the audience in a believable manner that Snape was good the entire time is fine.

Debating on whether he was ZOMG THE MOST EVOLEST CHARACTER EVER or ZOMG HE WAS SO GOOD AND YOU'RE ALL DELIBERATELY MISUNDERSTANDING HIM is not. ;)

(Please forgive me my hyperbole, but it was kind of fun...)

So is Dream posting anywhere else besides Harry Potter Forums? I am craving his information!

New pics have benn added. Peraphs you can find them a bit more interesting. :whistle:

In the film the most important thing is to explain that Snape wasn't evil, he loved Lily and deep down he loved Harry and he worked for Dumbledore. Seeing how many times he have saved Harry I find this believable.

EDIT: Mexicant, I didn't see your post before now so I hope I am not off topic.

What i was trying to say was most likely in DH they will not show that Snape was evil in the beginning and then became good because of Lilly. They will only show that he was working with Dumbledore and Dumbledore asked him to kill him. They may show a little bit of Snape being friends with Lilly, but i wouldn't think they would bring up him being responsible for Lilly's death maybe only that he came to Dumbledore when she died.

I think they are going to pretend in the films like Snape was mostly good all along and not evil and then he became good or better.

PS. Where are these photos at?

ZOMG! Sorry if old but look here (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=it&u=http://www.portkey.it/html/article-4853-thread-0-0.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.portkey.it/html/index.php%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhgw3pa40UtyvW-qr1-TEyOwkC9GRw)!

Another battle will be just after the wedding. I Mangiamorte riescono a infrangere la sfera di protezione e ci saranno grandi scene d'azione con Greyback, Lucius, Bellatrix, Lupin, Tonks ei Weasley.
The Death Eaters are able to break the sphere of protection and there will be great action scenes with Greyback, Lucius, Bellatrix, Lupine, Tonks and Weasley.

The first movie shows scenes at Hogwarts. At first there's the whole invasion by Death Eaters and Dementors while Snape looks from the Tower of Astronomy and McGonagall, Slughorn, Flitwick and Sprite looking from the Sala Grande and the courtyard. In un'altra scena sull'Espresso per Hogwarts i Mangiamorte pattugliano i corridoi mentre Ginny, Neville e Luna parlano in uno scompartimento. In another scene on the Death Eaters to Hogwarts while they patrol the corridors Ginny, Neville and Luna talk in a compartment. Successivamente arrivano ai Cancelli di Hogwarts dove i Mangiamorte portano via alcuni studenti. Segue un discorso di Piton a tutti gli studenti. [1] Vediamo anche Hagrid che viene attaccato dai Mangiamorte e fugge nella foresta, e il nuovo ES che si riunisce nella Stanza delle Neccessità.Subsequently reach the gates of Hogwarts, where the Death Eaters take away some students. [b]Following a speech by Snape to all students.[1] We also see that Hagrid is attacked by Death Eaters and flees into the forest, and the new ES that will meet in Room of Neccessità. Ci sarà inoltre un litigio tra Priton e la McGranitt e un montaggio di scene della vita a Hogwarts ora che tutti gli insegnanti vengono controllati dai Mangiamorte.There will also be a fight between Priton and McGonagall and a montage of scenes of life at Hogwarts now that all teachers are controlled by Death Eaters.


Note the red bold large letters :)
Gosh why can't Tonks be real???
Note the bold text: that could easily be my favorite part of Part 1 if they do it right.

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Andromeda and Ted Tonks in the film there will beLet's all cross our fingers!

Wow!! Just read the spoilers!!!! Sound great!!! And it matches what dream has said too

Wow!! Just read the spoilers!!!! Sound great!!! And it matches what dream has said too
That makes me all the more excited!

http://www.portkey.it/galleries/displayimage.php?pid=7756&fullsize=1

I think that may be inside the burrow

http://www.portkey.it/galleries/displayimage.php?pid=7755&fullsize=1
perhaps desserts served at the wedding ?
http://www.portkey.it/galleries/displayimage.php?pid=7754&fullsize=1

http://www.portkey.it/galleries/displayimage.php?pid=7753&fullsize=1

burrow again?
wedding

http://www.portkey.it/galleries/displayimage.php?pid=7752&fullsize=1

don't know if this is the burrow or some place else

http://www.portkey.it/galleries/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=15
looks like the burrow exterior
http://www.portkey.it/galleries/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=16
bill fleur wedding attire

http://www.portkey.it/galleries/displayimage.php?album=lastup&cat=0&pos=16
close up of bill and fleurs wedding attire

looks like the burrow exterior

Wow!! Just read the spoilers!!!! Sound great!!! And it matches what dream has said too

Uh, that is what dream_silenty said. :lol: If I'm not mistaken that is just an itemized list of the dream's comments from HPForum. I'd say Portkey is jumping the gun posting all this info since his legitimacy is still up in the air, but they have noted it's all just rumors at least :shrug:


P.S. Translations are often hilarious...

Voldemort in the film Ollivander torture and the old manufacturer of drumsticks Gregorovith

chicken drumsticks or ice-cream drumsticks? :rotfl: Mmm, either sounds good right now :drool:

Sorry, but let me get something straight. In a film called Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part1 the Hallows are going to be introduced about five minutes before the ending of the movie? Is that right?

So is Dream posting anywhere else besides Harry Potter Forums? I am craving his information!

I wish he was posting here! I mean come on...Mugglenet is the #1 Harry Potter film site and these are the Official Forums...why he chose the other I'll never know :whistle:

-JR

Sorry, but let me get something straight. In a film called Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part1 the Hallows are going to be introduced about five minutes before the ending of the movie? Is that right?

I think so, yeah :lol: At least they will be mentioned! :p I mean some were suggesting "Silver Doe" as the split point, which would make the title completely irrelevant for Part 1. As for myself, I still say they should split after Dobby's death and Harry makes the decision to pursue Horcruxes and not Hallows. This would allow for further mention of the Hallows and also more balanced halves. When determining the split point the filmmakers need to realize that there is actually a difference between the middle of the book and the middle of the story/plot...

The only natural divide I can see is around the chapters of "Shell Cottage" or "The Wandmaker"...whichever it is, I can't recall right now

The only natural divide I can see is around the chapters of "Shell Cottage" or "The Wandmaker"...whichever it is, I can't recall right now

I agree. The split should be at the cottage after Dobby's death. I picture almost an Empire Strikes Back (at the end of the film when they are looking out the window as the MF flies away) type scene where there is a lull in the action after Dobby is buried and Harry and company are looking off into the distance over the ocean comtumplating what lies ahead...in the next film.

-JR

I like the split before Malfoy Manor as they are being captured. Trying to fit the entire manor scene near the end of Part I would be a bit too much, IMO.

I am not worried about how Part 1 will end, but how Part 2 will begin. That is what worries me. How would they start it? There are tons of possibilities for endings, but not many beginnings would match up with those endings. What do you think?

I am not worried about how Part 1 will end, but how Part 2 will begin. That is what worries me. How would they start it? There are tons of possibilities for endings, but not many beginnings would match up with those endings. What do you think?

I think that starting at Malfoy Manor would be pretty intense.

I like the part when they are in Gringotts and the battle of Hogwarts, but I think that the battle of Hogwarts is much interesting than that. Specially when Molly was in duel with Bellatrix, it's was very funny, but I think that Neville should have killed Bellatrix, not Molly. And the part when Harry talks to Voldemort and asks him to repent.

And the part of Malfoy Manor it was very cool too, but I cried when Bellatrix killed Dobby. :(

I like the split before Malfoy Manor as they are being captured. Trying to fit the entire manor scene near the end of Part I would be a bit too much, IMO.
Well, it would provide a nice climax for Part 1 and depending on how accurate my outlines are (IIRC, I ended up with the exact same running times for both parts, purely on accident!) it wouldn't be "too much" but I digress...

I think that starting at Malfoy Manor would be pretty intense.
How would that work though? I just don't see how they could successfully start it off.

I wonder if well ever find out what the split point is going to be before part 1 comes out.

I think it would be good to end part 1 at shell cottage. I think that would be the easiest to split in terms of plot and in terms of the opening of part 2. If the end part 1 with the trio getting captured, I feel like it's too tv-ish, and then it's harder to decide a good opening of part 2. I don't think I want flashbacks for part 2. I don't know, to me it seems like they're leaning towards the snatcher part though, but nothing has been decided yet, as far as we know. I guess well just have to wait and see.

Sorry, but let me get something straight. In a film called Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part1 the Hallows are going to be introduced about five minutes before the ending of the movie? Is that right?

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with this - in the book by the same name, it takes quite a while to find out about the Hallows as well. ;)

Sorry, but let me get something straight. In a film called Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows part1 the Hallows are going to be introduced about five minutes before the ending of the movie? Is that right?

Seems a reasonable thing to do in a two-parter, to me. :D

Though, that is overstating it. There are already photos of Harry and Hermione seeing Ignotus Peverell's grave, and the sign of the Hallows will be introduced earlier, I would guess.

I do think that the guy said that the film wouldn't end after a death. They may be considering more then one option of where to end the film, but i don't think they are still considering after Dobby's death. I know we don't know for certain though.

I sort of wish they would just tell us, officially.

What i was trying to say was most likely in DH they will not show that Snape was evil in the beginning and then became good because of Lilly. They will only show that he was working with Dumbledore and Dumbledore asked him to kill him. They may show a little bit of Snape being friends with Lilly, but i wouldn't think they would bring up him being responsible for Lilly's death maybe only that he came to Dumbledore when she died.

I think they are going to pretend in the films like Snape was mostly good all along and not evil and then he became good or better.


I think it would be important to show enough of Snape and Lily for the audience to connect it to the theme of the power of love in the books, which is part of what the final duel is about and has actually been building throughout the films between Voldemort/Harry. Snape's story to me in part is "about the redemptive power of love" as is stated in the JKR documentary that aired in 2007, last summer in the USA, and is now on the HBP DVD. So I would like to see some of that, and if we don't see it I think it would be a real shame.



Following a speech by Snape to all students.



Sounds like what Alan Rickman was talking about recently in this interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU98Xh5gJk4). Might be considered spoilers by some.

Do we know where portkeyit got their information?

Do we know where portkeyit got their information?

Yeah, the same place as us :lol:

Like I said on the last page, I think it's just an itemized list of dream_silently's comments and nothing that we haven't already seen :shrug:

Yeah, the same place as us :lol:

Like I said on the last page, I think it's just an itemized list of dream_silently's comments and nothing that we haven't already seen :shrug:

But you're speculating, right? Just guessing? I'm asking if they stated point blank where they got their information.

Sounds like what Alan Rickman was talking about recently in this interview (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU98Xh5gJk4). Might be considered spoilers by some.

Adult conversation after Equus? :lol:
Well anyways I can't wait to see the scene he is talking about. It should be amazing!

I wonder what kind of speech Snape will give to the students?

I wonder what kind of speech Snape will give to the students?

"You're all a bunch of dunderheads!!!!" /END SPEECH. ;)

:p

But you're speculating, right? Just guessing? I'm asking if they stated point blank where they got their information.

No, not really. I mean it's all pretty much word for word, with slight differences due to translation. Plus there's this on the site:

As for the 'last time, we suggest you take these reports with the tweezers as provided by a department employee who took the artistic vision of an early draft script

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That fits the description dream gave for how he/she has come by this info. Therefore, call it an educated guess perhaps ;)

So uhm, what is "with the tweezers?" :rotfl: Is that like "with a grain of salt?" :hmm:

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with this - in the book by the same name, it takes quite a while to find out about the Hallows as well. ;)

It is not the same at all. In the book the Hallows are discovered towards the middle of the story. In the film they will be discovered at the very end.

So, the whole Hallows vs. Horcruxes issue will be dealt in.... one scene? Is that right again???
Wow, I hope I'm wrong, because if not, what the hell will be part 1 about? From what I know, it's just a lot of chase/fight scenes.

It is not the same at all. In the book the Hallows are discovered towards the middle of the story. In the film they will be discovered at the very end.

So, the whole Hallows vs. Horcruxes issue will be dealt in.... one scene? Is that right again???
Wow, I hope I'm wrong, because if not, what the hell will be part 1 about? From what I know, it's just a lot of chase/fight scenes.

Perhaps a scene or three at Hogwarts -- Snape talking to the students, etc. That would be a good time for Kloves to use his imagination to supplement the story -- again.

It is not the same at all. In the book the Hallows are discovered towards the middle of the story. In the film they will be discovered at the very end.
I never said it was the same, I said I found it acceptable. Some movies and novels do wait until the end to explain the title. I'm thinking in particular of "Everything is Illuminated" in which you don't understand the title until it is practically over, and it works.
Of course, I understand not everyone shares my opinion.

So, the whole Hallows vs. Horcruxes issue will be dealt in.... one scene? Is that right again???
Wow, I hope I'm wrong, because if not, what the hell will be part 1 about? From what I know, it's just a lot of chase/fight scenes.
Depending on where the split is for the two movies, we don't even know if this will be dealt with in the first film at all. I doubt it will be since I don't think the first film will get to it, and honestly I didn't think the Horcruxes v. Hallows debate in the book really got that much time spent on it. Harry didn't exactly have a lot of time to decide this in the novel, and I imagine it will be true in the film as well.
Again, just my opinion, and I admit to not keeping up at all with what is going on with the movies. I just go to the midnight showings. :D

I wonder what kind of speech Snape will give to the students?

IF this is true —and I hope it is— I could see Snape's speech server as a exposition to the students/audience on the kind of political changes that have happened over the summer and how they apply to Hogwarts. In Snapely fashion the words will serve as an informative warning guised as a "threat" which would explain why Harry can't go back to school and how much pressure & oppression that the staff and students are all under.

Imaginge Rickman using his commanding voice to silence the hall and then a offer few ominous pointers.

1) McGonagall has been removed from her position & Snape is now headmaster. Snape Introduces the Carrows and explains their role as teachers of "the Dark Arts" and what that means to students who are out of line.

2) "The Ministry" is now seeking undesirables and muggleborns, anyone who is suspected to be hiding them will be suspect to inquiry. Special emphasis on Harry Potter as Undesirable NO 1. anyone suspected of hiding or sympathizing with him(with a directed stare at Ginny Weasley and Longbottom et al.) will be suspect to inquiry etc. (I really like the idea of setting up from early - some ironic statement from Snape that he wants any information that will "find" Harry Potter. )

3) All houses are now under the Slytherin sign (dramatic change of all the dining hall banners to green) etc. etc. Along with a few cut aways to McGonagall huffing, and Longbottom being defiant as well as the Slytherins cheering their new position on top , etc. This could explain a lot about the political climate at the school with one simple Snape-tastic speech. ( In reality, IMO, Snape wants to reduce harm to the students so he will try to scare the bejesus out of them from early on so they behave and stay out of trouble. Of course this is the beginning of Longbottoms revolt )

It seems practical to the plot but maybe that's just my dream.

I don't think they went so far as to put the school completely under Slytherin banners. They are still trying to keep the school as normal as possible. They're is nothing wrong even with the other houses per se, just that they tend to have less open tolerance for the dark arts. But I like the rest of the stuff you're suggesting, it sounds pretty cool.

Also, the Slytherin banner thing would make sense to put in towards the end if it is done at all, and give it to Voldemort. He does have that speech in the final battle, when Neville defies him, where he sets the Sorting Hat on fire.

But I agree, a party-line toeing Voldemortist speech by Snape with subtle hints of someting else would be a brilliant addition. And really, a fair adaptation. DH the novel includes a newspaper article which covers Snape's appointment and includes this type of speech. Obviously, showing the speech given would be more suitable to a visual medium like film.

I think that starting at Malfoy Manor would be pretty intense.

I completely agree :agree: I think it should feel much more natural to pan into the intensity of Malfoy Manor than the tranquility of Shell Cottage. How to make an exciting and interesting opening scene at Shell Cottage? I lean toward the cliffhanger ending, but at the same time I'd liked them to put all of Dobby's scenes into one film. Hope they handle the split well. *Cross fingers*

I completely agree :agree: I think it should feel much more natural to pan into the intensity of Malfoy Manor than the tranquility of Shell Cottage. How to make an exciting and interesting opening scene at Shell Cottage? I lean toward the cliffhanger ending, but at the same time I'd liked to put all of Dobby's scenes into one film. Hope they handle the split well. *Cross fingers*

I would end Part I with the intense Snatcher chase scene and then the trio being taken to Malfoy Manor. Before the movie ends, the camera slowly pans away and reveals the manor in the distance, with the music growing in intensity as we see the trio walking through the gates below. Opening Part II with Malfoy Manor would be ideal, because it's such an intense character moment that would immediately take us back into the adventure.

Though, that is overstating it. There are already photos of Harry and Hermione seeing Ignotus Peverell's grave, and the sign of the Hallows will be introduced earlier, I would guess.I guess we might see Hermione coming across the sign in the copy of Beedle the Bard that Dumbledore left her. Just like it was in the book. So the audience will have been alerted to the fact that this sign means something. And then they will see the sign again in Godric's Hollow. Even if it's not properly explained until later on.

It is not the same at all. In the book the Hallows are discovered towards the middle of the story. In the film they will be discovered at the very end. Not really. The end of DH1 is not the end of the story. This film will be different from the others in that it hasn't a fully concluded story, i.e. the Philosopher's Stone story was concluded by the end of PS/SS. But it' s different this time. So in order to have a stand alone movie, the film makers will have to choose a very good spot to end the movie.

Which brings us back to the question of where the split will be. I remember Heyman once suggested the end of DH1 will be at an emotional point and the audience will have some sense of conclusion. Ending DH1 when the trio is captured by the snatchers and led away to Malfoy Manor doesn't really fit with the sense of conclusion, IMO. That would be a classical cliffhanger.

Wow, I hope I'm wrong, because if not, what the hell will be part 1 about? From what I know, it's just a lot of chase/fight scenes.They will have to retrieve the true locket and find a way to destroy it. Furthermore, they have to figure out what the other Horcruxes are, although I guess the answer to that will be given in DH2. And we will have a couple of emotional moments too. So I am confident it won't be just chases and fights.

I think that end the film with Dobby's death and possibly the revelation of the Deathly Hallows at Shell Cottage would be the good end point for one. That is a lull in the action and seems to me to be a natural place for the split to take place. Then DH2 can start out with the trip to Diagon Alley and the escape from Gringots.

-JR

I'm still really disappointing that they've decided to split the movie at the Forest Chase, just because they want a 'cliffhanger'. Why shouldn't they continue the real Harry Potter-end? The kind of end where we leave the story in a moment of rest, not in the middle of a thrilling chase. The kind of end where the viewer leaves the cinema with questions.

1. Action-packed climax (Finding the Philosophers Stone/Discovering the Chamber of Secrets/The Shrieking Shack/The Graveyard/Department of Mysteries/Killing of Dumbledore) That would be the Malfoy Manor 'climax'
2. Returning to safety (Recovering at hospital wing/Leaving the Chamber of Secrets/Hospital Wing/Return to Hogwarts/Return to Hogwarts/Funeral) That would be the scenes at Shell Cottage
3. Explaining conversation with Harry (Dumbledore at the hospital wing/Dumbledore at his office/Harry, Ron and Hermione at the hospital wing/Dumbledore at his office/Dumbledore at his office/After Funeral) That would be a conversation with Ollivander and ...
4. A Deathly Hallows new kind of cliffhanger ... Voldemort getting his hands on the Elder Wand

The intro of Part II is very easy to handle this way, just a conversation with Ron and Hermione about the Elder Wand, about what they're going to do: Horcruxes or Hallows.

that'd be awesome if it went like this or something very similar!!
IF this is true —and I hope it is— I could see Snape's speech server as a exposition to the students/audience on the kind of political changes that have happened over the summer and how they apply to Hogwarts. In Snapely fashion the words will serve as an informative warning guised as a "threat" which would explain why Harry can't go back to school and how much pressure & oppression that the staff and students are all under.

Imaginge Rickman using his commanding voice to silence the hall and then a offer few ominous pointers.

1) McGonagall has been removed from her position & Snape is now headmaster. Snape Introduces the Carrows and explains their role as teachers of "the Dark Arts" and what that means to students who are out of line.

2) "The Ministry" is now seeking undesirables and muggleborns, anyone who is suspected to be hiding them will be suspect to inquiry. Special emphasis on Harry Potter as Undesirable NO 1. anyone suspected of hiding or sympathizing with him(with a directed stare at Ginny Weasley and Longbottom et al.) will be suspect to inquiry etc. (I really like the idea of setting up from early - some ironic statement from Snape that he wants any information that will "find" Harry Potter. )

3) All houses are now under the Slytherin sign (dramatic change of all the dining hall banners to green) etc. etc. Along with a few cut aways to McGonagall huffing, and Longbottom being defiant as well as the Slytherins cheering their new position on top , etc. This could explain a lot about the political climate at the school with one simple Snape-tastic speech. ( In reality, IMO, Snape wants to reduce harm to the students so he will try to scare the bejesus out of them from early on so they behave and stay out of trouble. Of course this is the beginning of Longbottoms revolt )

It seems practical to the plot but maybe that's just my dream.

I'm still really disappointing that they've decided to split the movie at the Forest Chase, just because they want a 'cliffhanger'. Why shouldn't they continue the real Harry Potter-end? The kind of end where we leave the story in a moment of rest, not in the middle of a thrilling chase. The kind of end where the viewer leaves the cinema with questions.

1. Action-packed climax (Finding the Philosophers Stone/Discovering the Chamber of Secrets/The Shrieking Shack/The Graveyard/Department of Mysteries/Killing of Dumbledore) That would be the Malfoy Manor 'climax'
2. Returning to safety (Recovering at hospital wing/Leaving the Chamber of Secrets/Hospital Wing/Return to Hogwarts/Return to Hogwarts/Funeral) That would be the scenes at Shell Cottage
3. Explaining conversation with Harry (Dumbledore at the hospital wing/Dumbledore at his office/Harry, Ron and Hermione at the hospital wing/Dumbledore at his office/Dumbledore at his office/After Funeral) That would be a conversation with Ollivander and ...
4. A Deathly Hallows new kind of cliffhanger ... Voldemort getting his hands on the Elder Wand

The intro of Part II is very easy to handle this way, just a conversation with Ron and Hermione about the Elder Wand, about what they're going to do: Horcruxes or Hallows.

At the moment, the split is still not absolutely known. It's subject to change, but just because it sounds like an inappropriate split doesn't mean that it will be. It really depends on how they execute those final moments of Part I, because seeing the capture of the trio would certainly make me leave with questions.

I'm still really disappointing that they've decided to split the movie at the Forest Chase, just because they want a 'cliffhanger'.

Was this confirmed?

-JR

don't think they have decided on the split yet. We heard they were leaning toward the snatcher scene but nothing is definite yet.

I'm still really disappointing that they've decided to split the movie at the Forest Chase, just because they want a 'cliffhanger'. Why shouldn't they continue the real Harry Potter-end? The kind of end where we leave the story in a moment of rest, not in the middle of a thrilling chase. The kind of end where the viewer leaves the cinema with questions.

1. Action-packed climax (Finding the Philosophers Stone/Discovering the Chamber of Secrets/The Shrieking Shack/The Graveyard/Department of Mysteries/Killing of Dumbledore) That would be the Malfoy Manor 'climax'
2. Returning to safety (Recovering at hospital wing/Leaving the Chamber of Secrets/Hospital Wing/Return to Hogwarts/Return to Hogwarts/Funeral) That would be the scenes at Shell Cottage
3. Explaining conversation with Harry (Dumbledore at the hospital wing/Dumbledore at his office/Harry, Ron and Hermione at the hospital wing/Dumbledore at his office/Dumbledore at his office/After Funeral) That would be a conversation with Ollivander and ...
4. A Deathly Hallows new kind of cliffhanger ... Voldemort getting his hands on the Elder Wand

The intro of Part II is very easy to handle this way, just a conversation with Ron and Hermione about the Elder Wand, about what they're going to do: Horcruxes or Hallows.

I really like the idea of the fina scene in the movie being Voldemort getting the Elder Wand. I used to want it to be right before Malfoy Manor, but after reading your post along with many others, I, almost completely, want the split to be after Malfoy Manor. The points you made are great.

IF this is true —and I hope it is— I could see Snape's speech server as a exposition to the students/audience on the kind of political changes that have happened over the summer and how they apply to Hogwarts.

This is true. Alan Rickman was the one that said that he has 'a scene coming up with talking to 300 kids'. [video] (http://vimeo.com/8090783)

2) "The Ministry" is now seeking undesirables and muggleborns, anyone who is suspected to be hiding them will be suspect to inquiry. Special emphasis on Harry Potter as Undesirable NO 1. anyone suspected of hiding or sympathizing with him(with a directed stare at Ginny Weasley and Longbottom et al.) will be suspect to inquiry etc. (I really like the idea of setting up from early - some ironic statement from Snape that he wants any information that will "find" Harry Potter. )

I like this idea because it would have a double meaning. Snape would be wanting to find Harry to give him the sword, but Ginny, Neville, and Luna wouldn't know that until the end.

PS. I really like the idea of Voldemort gaining the elder wand at the end of Part 1. I think dream_silently mentioned showing Voldemort at the end of the film, but just as he finds out where the elder wand is and not right after he gets it from Dumbledore's tomb. I really like the idea of him getting it before the end though.

PS. I really like the idea of Voldemort gaining the elder wand at the end of Part 1. I think dream_silently wrote that dream_silently did mention...

Wait, so he/she is referencing him/herself now? :lol: That's not good, quoting someone who we're not sure is believable in the first place :p

BTW, I'm assuming you meant to have a period to break that up into 2 different sentences decarus, so yeah...I was just joking around :lol:

Anyways, being serious now...

I really like a lot of those ideas (both KJRiddle and Bscorp) too. :tu:

Wait, so he/she is referencing him/herself now? :lol: That's not good, quoting someone who we're not sure is believable in the first place :p

BTW, I'm assuming you meant to have a period to break that up into 2 different sentences decarus, so yeah...I was just joking around :lol:

Anyways, being serious now, I really like a lot of those ideas (both KJRiddle and Bscorp) too :tu:

I am losing my mind. I site severe lack of sleep as the reason i managed to make no sense at all. Sorry about that. I fixed it.

PS. I also would love some new news so that we could have something new to discuss. Repetition does help things become more clear, but still...

I am losing my mind. I site severe lack of sleep as the reason i managed to make no sense at all. Sorry about that. I fixed it.

Ah, is the ardueous duty of THE LIST getting to you? :p

It can take it's toll after a while...I know, having been in charge of HBP's for months before I pawned it off on Arry :lol: I appreciate your guys hard work in continuing it though. :tu: Hate to say it but I think it looks even better than the one we had going for Half-Blood Prince... :p


Anyways, I don't think I have much else to say at the moment. I'm pretty sure my thoughts have run dry. I mean I'd been discussing these films long before HBP was released. Hell, before the split was even announced even. Yeah, I feel as if I'd just be repeating at this point :lol:

I think I might hold off a bit on posting here until we have substantial news, such as another trailer or something... :whistle:

Thanks very much. The list has been going well, not too overwhelming as of yet. I think we might have a few more months before things start getting more news crazy such as a trailer.

The hardest thing is trying to figure out where to place 'added scenes' which is why we made a post for them until we can figure out where to place some of them. I think for the most part we have a lot of them placed properly in the timeline, but we can't know for certain. We may have to just wait until the films come out to know if we are right.

You guys did great with the HBP List. It was always a good source of information and i enjoyed reading it. I never would have thought at the time that i would be helping with the DH List.

We need more news!! Lol

We need more news!! Lol
AMEN! I wonder how much longer until we get promo shoot pictures. Like Scrimgeour, Xenophillius, etc.

Indeed the question of where the split will happen is important for all of us :P it seems that they are three big choices here :

1- Part 1 ends with the Snatchers getting a hold of the trio and bringing them to Malfoy Manor
2- Ends with the trio in the Malfoy Manor (somewhere in the middle of the scene)
3- Ends with Shell Cottage

As well as it would be to finish the movie with Shell Cottage, since the tension comes back to normal, we need to think about what is left for the part 2 if part 1 ends there. In my opinion, Shell Cottage can't be in Part 1 for the only reasons that there not a lot of things left after that for Part 2. What's left ? Well Gringotts and Hogwarts... I know the final battle and all of that is a huge piece of the movie, but it's not going to last an hour and a half !

So my guess is the end when the trio get kidnap. Part 2 starts with the ending scene of Part 1 (to help the audience remember) then Malfoy Manor, Shell Cottage, Gringotts and Hogwarts.

Gimme news!!!!! I'm itching for it!

I think it's feasible that if the split is after shell cottage there will be enough of the story left for part 2. The split could be after Harry talks to both Griphook and Ollivander. Then part two could have the planning, gringotts, the battle, the prince's tale, king's cross, the final battle, and I'm hoping for the aftermath too. Seem to me it could be an hour and a half.

Indeed the question of where the split will happen is important for all of us :P it seems that they are three big choices here :

1- Part 1 ends with the Snatchers getting a hold of the trio and bringing them to Malfoy Manor
2- Ends with the trio in the Malfoy Manor (somewhere in the middle of the scene)
3- Ends with Shell Cottage

As well as it would be to finish the movie with Shell Cottage, since the tension comes back to normal, we need to think about what is left for the part 2 if part 1 ends there. In my opinion, Shell Cottage can't be in Part 1 for the only reasons that there not a lot of things left after that for Part 2. What's left ? Well Gringotts and Hogwarts... I know the final battle and all of that is a huge piece of the movie, but it's not going to last an hour and a half !

So my guess is the end when the trio get kidnap. Part 2 starts with the ending scene of Part 1 (to help the audience remember) then Malfoy Manor, Shell Cottage, Gringotts and Hogwarts.

I know I said I was likely done posting here until we got some substantial news, but I felt compelled to reply to this :lol: :p I disagree. I don't think it's too late at all and there would still be plenty left for Part 2. This is obvoiusly quite outdated now, but here's an old post of mine for how I think it could go with the split at Shell Cottage -http://www.cosforums.com/showpost.php?p=5204479&postcount=366

Note that the 5 minutes at Shell Cottage I have listed there is either a quick recap and/or talking to Ollivander or Griphook, depending on where Part 1 ended. I think Part 1 should end after this series of events- they bury Dobby, Harry talks to Ollivander, and he decides to pursue Horcruxes over Hallows. Oh, and the final shot perhaps cutting to Voldemort stealing the Elder Wand from Dumbledore's tomb as suggested recently :tu:

Oh, and to clarify, because many seem to get this confused...no, the battle itself will not be an hour and a half, but from when the trio returns to Hogwarts until the end of the movie likely will be, if not longer...

Well, David Yates, if you read this: most of the fans don't like the split before Malfoy Manor!

I had something in mind like this:
As Dobby Disapparates with Ollivander and Luna (forget about Dean, he doesn't fit in the whole part because of his slightl small role in the movies), Harry and Ron escape from the cellar. There is this big battle, involving the Death Eaters/Snatchers, the Malfoys and Bellatrix. This has to be bigger than the books, because this is supposed to be the final battle of the first part.
At the moment Harry and Ron think they've secured Hermione and Griphook, Bellatrix seems not be be defeaten, but then Dobby reappears. He drops the chandelier, and he leaves with the rest.
As the apparate on the beach, Dobby dies in the arms of Harry. Than a beautiful lamenting song has to fade in, and we need to have some shots of Harry crying unaudiable, just the sound of the song ... a beautiful compilation of Harry digging the grave, and the Trio burrying Dobby in the dunes. The song fades away, and cuts to ... Harry waiting outside Shell Cottage, in the strong wind. He is waiting for Ollivander, who is 'healthy' enough to go with Harry for a walk on the beach (give him a cane or something like that). They have their talk, and then Harry looses conscious and see Voldemort stealing the Elder Wand. Here's your cliffhanger.

The second part should start with Harry sitting in the dunes, thinking, they voices of Dumbledore, Xenophilius, Ollivander and Hermione echoing through his head (audiable for the viewers, of course). Those voice-over/flashback voices should for the viewer to pick up the story they've left:

HORACE SLUGHORN
A Horcrux is an object in which a person has concealed a part of their soul.

HARRY POTTER
If you could find them all, if you did destroy each Horcrux …

ALBUS DUMBLEDORE
… one destroys Voldemort.

XENOPHILIUS LOVEGOOD
The Deathly Hallows are three highly powerful objects supposedly created by Death. The Elder Wand … the Ring of Resurrection … the Cloak of Invisibility …

OLLIVANDER
The Dark Lord no longer seeks the Elder Wand only for your destruction, I am afraid. He is determined to possess it, because he believes it will make him truly invulnerable.

HERMIONE GRANGER
Dumledore left you very clear instructions: find and the destroy the Horcruxes! Forget the Deathly Hallows, we can’t afford to get sidetracked.

So it becomes very clear that Harry is not sure what to do next: Horcruxes or Hallows. Then Ron and Hermione join him on the dunes, and Harry tells them that Voldemort has found the Elder Wand, and re-tells the Ollivander story from the ending of Part 1 (the conversation that he just had a couple of minutes ago).
They meet Griphook, plan their Break into Gringotts, etc. ...


Why this way?
A couple of things are finished (Dobby/The Malfoys), so there isn't much confusion when the viewer watches the second part almost six months later. They can have a new, fresh start with the Elder Wand and Gringotss.
Also because the first parts as a Harry Potter-film is supposed to end: a moment of 'rest' after a severe confrontation/climax. Not halfway a sequence.

Well, David Yates, if you read this: most of the fans don't like the split before Malfoy Manor!


It might be safe to say that most people on here prefer Shell Cottage as the split point, but do they represent the entire fandom? We can't know for sure what most fans think. Also, if you prefer one split point doesn't mean that you automatically dislike the other one, IMO. Personally I don't dislike the Shell Cottage split even though I'd rather liked it to end with the snatchers bringing the trio to Malfoy Manor and a shot of Voldemort gaining the Elder Wand or flying in the air. Due to the many opinions among the fans, I don't think David Yates would change anything even if he had read our suggestions. Of course he wants to please the fans, but sometimes a director must do some unpupular choices in order to make better films. Some may think he succeeds in doing so, others not.

I think the split should be right after the Seven Potters scene and that way there can be a lot of.... no, I'm just kidding :lol: Shell cottage would be the ideal place to split it because that way, as I believe others have mentioned, the first part will have real closure and it's after a climactic point. However I also like the idea of a cliffhanger to keep the non-readers in suspense until July '11. Either way I'm sure the filmmakers know what they're doing and where the perfect place to split it will be so I won't be concerned with whatever their decision is.

As the apparate on the beach, Dobby dies in the arms of Harry. Than a beautiful lamenting song has to fade in, and we need to have some shots of Harry crying unaudiable, just the sound of the song ... a beautiful compilation of Harry digging the grave, and the Trio burrying Dobby in the dunes. The song fades away, and cuts to ... Harry waiting outside Shell Cottage, in the strong wind. He is waiting for Ollivander, who is 'healthy' enough to go with Harry for a walk on the beach (give him a cane or something like that). They have their talk, and then Harry looses conscious and see Voldemort stealing the Elder Wand. Here's your cliffhanger.


But then we end up with a cliffhanger just like the other possible split point (not with the same impact, though) instead of a typical HP ending you asked for. If they go for the Shell Cottage ending to give the audience a sense of resolution and a moment of "rest", I think it's best to end it immediately after Dobby is buried. I think it's the best moment at Shell Cottage to end it on visually, especially if it plays out as beautifully as you described it :tu: Hmm, wouldn't be very unlike the ending of HBP.

The song fades away, and cuts to ...

...the credits.

I think the perfect split for the end of Part one is right after Dobby dies. after they bury his body and he is by himself...that would mean that part two would be able to start off with planning the break into Gringotts...

The second part should start with Harry sitting in the dunes, thinking, they voices of Dumbledore, Xenophilius, Ollivander and Hermione echoing through his head (audiable for the viewers, of course). Those voice-over/flashback voices should for the viewer to pick up the story they've left:

So it becomes very clear that Harry is not sure what to do next: Horcruxes or Hallows. IIRC, Harry decided to go for the Horcruxes first when he dug Dobby's grave. He made this decision all on his own, without having talked to Griphook or Ollivander first. I think that is an important point. JKR said in an interview something about that this was the moment Harry became a man. He made this difficult and important decision on his own. And I think they should leave it like that in the movie. That means the conversations with Griphook and Ollivander should take place in DH2, IMO.

What I personally don't like about the split possibly being when the Snatchers catch the trio, right before Malfoy Manor, is that it would be a cliffhanger. I would prefer an ending with a sense of completion or resolution. To make it a kind of stand-alone movie. What I also dread is the thought of them ending it somehow in the middle of the Malfoy Manor sequence, but I guess that is not an option at all anyway.

I am warming up more and more for the Shell Cottage split. To end DH1 when they have successfully fled Malfoy Manor and buried Dobby. Then the trio talk and Harry tells Ron and Hermione that he has decided to go for the Horcruxes first. DH2 could then begin at Shell Cottage with Harry talking to first Griphook and then Ollivander.

DH2 could then begin at Shell Cottage with Harry talking to first Griphook and then Ollivander.

It should ideally begin with an action sequence. That's one of the benefits with the other split point. An opening scene with Voldemort might be an option, though.

It should ideally begin with an action sequence. That's one of the benefits with the other split point. An opening scene with Voldemort might be an option, though.

You're right on that, there has to be an action sequence during the opening of Part 2.
Part 1 is a road movie, and it will probably open with a kind of 'introducing'/dull bunch of scenes, such as the Malfoy Manor meeting and the Scrimgeour speech.
Part 2 is an action movie, pure action, with of course, a huge amount of depth and multiple beautiful climaxes, but action. So, an action-packed opening.

I think that it would be great to use Part 2 (if the split would be at Shell Cottage), to show the daily life at Hogwarts. In Part 1 we've probably only seen a couple of scenes at Hogwarts, or none, so it would be great to see a 'second storyline' until Harry, Ron and Hermione return to Hogwarts.
So, a double storyline, one following Harry, Ron and Hermione, and one following Neville, Ginny and Luna. It's just for probably one hour, because after Gringotts the Battle of Hogwarts already starts!
They could 'introduce' that second storyline with a nice openinsequence (maybe with some action) of Neville, Ginny and Luna at Hogwarts ... to show the Hogwarts how it has become ... Death Eaters, Dementors, Carrows, Snape.

Actually I think Part 1 will be more action-packed, TBH.
A road movie yes. But with lots of action. Seven Potters, Wedding attack, London chase, Ministry infiltratio, Forest chases/attacks, Godric's Hollow, Silver Doe, DEs attacking Xeno's house, Snatchers chase-
Part 2 will have Malfoy Manor,Gringotts and the Battle of Hogwarts but I highly doubt the Hogwarts battle will be anything too mind-blowing. I have faith on dream_silently and I hope that we will see all these massive action sequences but I fear they'll be rushed. Yates made fantastic action moments in OotP and HBP but the disadvantage is the fact that they were rushed and fast-paced. I don't know...

You're right on that, there has to be an action sequence during the opening of Part 2.
Part 1 is a road movie, and it will probably open with a kind of 'introducing'/dull bunch of scenes, such as the Malfoy Manor meeting and the Scrimgeour speech.
Part 2 is an action movie, pure action, with of course, a huge amount of depth and multiple beautiful climaxes, but action. So, an action-packed opening.

I think that it would be great to use Part 2 (if the split would be at Shell Cottage), to show the daily life at Hogwarts. In Part 1 we've probably only seen a couple of scenes at Hogwarts, or none, so it would be great to see a 'second storyline' until Harry, Ron and Hermione return to Hogwarts.
So, a double storyline, one following Harry, Ron and Hermione, and one following Neville, Ginny and Luna. It's just for probably one hour, because after Gringotts the Battle of Hogwarts already starts!
They could 'introduce' that second storyline with a nice openinsequence (maybe with some action) of Neville, Ginny and Luna at Hogwarts ... to show the Hogwarts how it has become ... Death Eaters, Dementors, Carrows, Snape.

That might also work :)

Actually I think Part 1 will be more action-packed, TBH.
A road movie yes. But with lots of action. Seven Potters, Wedding attack, London chase, Ministry infiltratio, Forest chases/attacks, Godric's Hollow, Silver Doe, DEs attacking Xeno's house, Snatchers chase-
Part 2 will have Malfoy Manor,Gringotts and the Battle of Hogwarts but I highly doubt the Hogwarts battle will be anything too mind-blowing. I have faith on dream_silently and I hope that we will see all these massive action sequences but I fear they'll be rushed. Yates made fantastic action moments in OotP and HBP but the disadvantage is the fact that they were rushed and fast-paced. I don't know...

Both will hopefully be action-packed. I feel the scenes in part one are mostly chase scenes with lots of running and spells while the action sequences in part two probably are going to be bigger and quite massive with huge sets and battles. Hope they live up to our expectations :)

I intended to quote one of my posts to hear your opinions on how to explain that the cup is a horcrux, but instead I managed to delete that reply :lol: I think it is important to have everything about the cup in one film to avoid confusion. If part one ends with the snatchers bringing the trio to Malfoy manor, the cup can be introduced in part two when Bellatrix tortures Hermione and the trio figure out it is a horcrux at Shell cottage. If all this is put in part two it shouldn't be a problem for non-readers to catch it. But what if the split is at Shell Cottage? How can the non-readers remember such details a half year later? What can the film makers do to remind us of it? Flashbacks?

It should ideally begin with an action sequence. That's one of the benefits with the other split point. An opening scene with Voldemort might be an option, though.

Part 2 should begin with the flashback of the scene when Voldemort kills Harry's parents, tries to kill Harry and the spell backfires, creating the Harrycrux.

Part 2 should begin with the flashback of the scene when Voldemort kills Harry's parents, tries to kill Harry and the spell backfires, creating the Harrycrux.

That might actually be cool depending on where they left off in part 1.

My whole fear with this split is that they will try to make each part it's own movie. This is still supposed to be Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, one whole story, Part 1 and Part 2, Not Harry Potter 7 and Harry Potter 8. I hope they end it with a cliff hanger, not because I was it to be tense, and not even because I want people to come back for more, merely because if we end in a resolution will a classic end of movie shot, i think it MIGHT make Part 1 into Harry Potter 7, instead of Harry Potter 7...Part 1. Do you guys get what I mean. Part 2 is supposed to pick up RIGHT when Part 1 left off. Examples of excellent movies that have done this correctly is the Back to the Future Trilogy, it's all the same story, there's no ending until the final part, and IMO there shouldn't be a normal film ending until the end of part 2 when the Entire story comes to a close. For example, does Harry Potter: GoF pick up RIGHT when Hp: PoA did. No. Simply because when PoA ended, that story was done. Over. GoF was the beginning of the next story. Deathl Hallows is not two stories it's one, so why try to make it seem like 2 different ones, by ending with a feel that the story is over when it's not? So far, my 2 favorite split moments i've heard of is Part 1 ending with Lovegood saying "The Deathly Hallows" Black screen Credits. Then part 2 could open with the actual Deathly Hallows story (No since we've heard no casting of the brothers it's unlikely that they'll SHOW it but thwe explanation would open part 2) and then Death Eaters come in and they get chased, Malfoy Manor, etc. The only other ending I like is ending with the snatcher's, I mean they could like Intercut the Snatcher chase, with Voldemort stealing the wand or something, that'd be cool! I could imagine it, shot of the trio running from the snatchers, then suddenly quick bit of voldemort approching the tomb, more running, snatchers gaining on them, Voldemort opens the tomb, things get tense and more quick, then Voldemort gets the wand and the trio are captured, at the same time, how's that for defeat? BOOM! Credits. I'm just saying, i dont want to feel like ANYTHING is resolved after Part 1 is done. I actually want to be left hanging, because then i know for a fact that there's more coming, sure we may know it for a fact already, but i mean knowing that the story of "The Deathly Hallows" isn't over.

Well, each part will have its own distinct feel due to the book itself being a different experience outside of the school, IMO. Part 1 is more of a road movie with plenty of character moments, whereas Part II is very much action-packed and re-introduces Hogwarts.

Well, each part will have its own distinct feel due to the book itself being a different experience outside of the school, IMO. Part 1 is more of a road movie with plenty of character moments, whereas Part II is very much action-packed and re-introduces Hogwarts.

That might be true, but they're both still the same story, and should feel like the same Entire story, i already think giving each film a different style is already pushing it. IMO, this shouldn't be Harry Potter 7 and 8 but Harry Potter 7, Parts 1 and 2. As I said before a perfect example of a believable back to back movie series is Back to the Future. When I saw the first and second movies, I totally believed that one happened right after the other one did, IMO, thats how it should be with Part 1 and 2 of Dh. It's still technically ONE singular movie, just in 2 parts, instead of 2 individual movies that each have there own story and feel, it shouldn't be that way, IMO

alot of people are talking about how epic DH2 will be, because of the intense fight sequences, but has anyone watched Avatar by James Cameron? With more 3D movies coming out before DH1 and 2, will audiences expect more from Harry Potter?

I hope DH2 can be seen in 3D, that means more $ for it at the box office. :lol:

That might be true, but they're both still the same story, and should feel like the same Entire story, i already think giving each film a different style is already pushing it. IMO, this shouldn't be Harry Potter 7 and 8 but Harry Potter 7, Parts 1 and 2. As I said before a perfect example of a believable back to back movie series is Back to the Future. When I saw the first and second movies, I totally believed that one happened right after the other one did, IMO, thats how it should be with Part 1 and 2 of Dh. It's still technically ONE singular movie, just in 2 parts, instead of 2 individual movies that each have there own story and feel, it shouldn't be that way, IMO

I haven't seen the Back to the Future movies (other than the first) but f I'm not mistaken the Matrix sequels and PotC are other examples of this. Anyways, I don't really see why it's such a big deal if it feels that way or not. Personally I'd be going for what would make the most balanced films and this would be splitting after Dobby's death, which I suspect the filmmakers will discover when they go to piece the 2 parts together. I still think they are going to find that no other idea works better, but I digress...

alot of people are talking about how epic DH2 will be, because of the intense fight sequences, but has anyone watched Avatar by James Cameron? With more 3D movies coming out before DH1 and 2, will audiences expect more from Harry Potter?

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But to answer your question, personally I'm expecting The Battle of Hogwarts to blow every previous battle sequence (yes, even Lord of the Rings) out of the water! :p The bar has certainly been raised, not due to the gimmicky 3D film you mentioned...but rather all the extra resources they have to work with now. Not to mention the severe cutting of the battles in the last couple films has built up an anticipation for a huge finale. They can't hold out on us any longer. No excuses now like "well, we are trying to avoid repetition". They best lay it all out on the table and deliver the most unique, most exhilirating, etc to ever grace the screen. Yeah, perhaps my expectations are too high but I have this vision of it in my mind that I think can come true. The way Jo wrote it, I think it's certainly the best or the most epic or however you want to describe it...but it remains to be seen how Yates and his crew will adapt it. They've been known to screw up fantastic action pieces (look no further than the MoM in OotP) in the past....so who knows :whistle:

I thought the Ministry of Magic battle in OotP was action-packed and thrilling. However, the editing was mediocre. And all scenes were rushed and too fast-paced. That's my big concern for the Battle of Hogwarts.
I feel Part 1 will satisfy us because it doesn't have any action piece as huge as the Hogwart battle. So we can't expect anything too epic.

But, if I remmber correctly, David Yates has said that the battle in Pt.2 will be "epic" and "operatic" with lots of intense and huge battles etc. Heyman confirmed that the battle itself will last around 30 minutes so I guess it will truly be amazing.
I want to see some footage so badly. :/

I thought the Ministry of Magic battle in OotP was action-packed and thrilling. However, the editing was mediocre. And all scenes were rushed and too fast-paced. That's my big concern for the Battle of Hogwarts.
I feel Part 1 will satisfy us because it doesn't have any action piece as huge as the Hogwart battle. So we can't expect anything too epic.

But, if I remmber correctly, David Yates has said that the battle in Pt.2 will be "epic" and "operatic" with lots of intense and huge battles etc. Heyman confirmed that the battle itself will last around 30 minutes so I guess it will truly be amazing.
I want to see some footage so badly. :/

I agree, the battle at the Departement of Mysteries was almost blasphemous. IMO they could've even skipped the whole everyone-is-duelling-everyone-part, if they had made the last moments between Harry and Sirius and his death really touching!

I really hope the Battle of Hogwarts will be the battle everyone has been waiting for for the last decades. More epic than the Siege of Minas Tirith. Not impossible. They just have to show that there are obviously two sides: the good side (Hogwarts staff/Order of the Phoenix/Hogwarts students/Aurors) and the bad side (Voldemort/Death Eaters/Demetors/Acromantula). But I think that won't be a problem, because Tom Felton recently said 'it's like a western-style show down'.

But they definetily have to show the others fighting, while Harry is on his mission! It has to!

And of course, a really good 'end' of the Battle of Hogwarts. Not the anti-climactic end in the book: just Harry going to Dumbledore's office. There has to be more! Like the Trio walking and talking in the ruins of Hogwarts.

I'll suggest that the part 1 ends with the trio being caught by Greyback and his group of snatchers.

Yes the battle has great potential on the big screen.
I don't understand what this 'Western-style showdown' means though.

It would be amazing to see the Trio walking around the ruins of Hogwarts. I found the ending of the battle very anti-climactic in the book. Everyone's cheering, Harry goes to Dumbledore's Office, the end. Logically it will be different in the movie.

To be honest with you, I don't think the Minas Tirith battle was that epic. Yes it was awesome but I think the Battle of Hogwarts has great potential to surpass it.

I too would like to see more to the conclusion after the battle, I feel like after everything was over in the book it sort of ended quickly. I dint know what they could do here, but like some said maybe trio walking srous afterwards?

When i thought of 'western-style showdown', i thought of the moment after harry has 'died' when they all come back and stand in a line facing each other. That is the moment i thought he was talking about. That is sort of a 'western-style showdown' cue cheesy music. That sort of tense moment when they all face off before everyone starts fighting.

Then the end in the book with Harry and Voldemort is definitely a 'western-style showdown' with them both circling each other and then both pull their wands and getting their one shot though i think we can assume that this is going to be different in the films in some way or other.

That might actually be cool depending on where they left off in part 1.

Since the fact that part of Voldemort's soul is inside Harry and the blood sacrifice issue are incredibly important, the flashback scene should be in part 2, and I think it would be the best way to open the film, focusing on what is really important, Voldemort, and creating a nice paralel with the climax of the film.

Why exactly does DH2 have to start with an action sequence? I understand if we start at Shell Cottage with the trio talking to Griphook and Ollivander and then planning the Gringott's breakin, that would mean a lot of talking and planning before we hit the first action sequence. That could be bad for the pacing and balance of the movie (for want of better words). But that problem will be avoided by including Harry's vision of Voldemort. And we could have scenes about what the DEs are up to or what happens at Hogwarts that have a bit of action, couldn't we?

I mean, I just don't think we have to start into DH2 with an action scene right way.

When i thought of 'western-style showdown', i thought of the moment after harry has 'died' when they all come back and stand in a line facing each other. That is the moment i thought he was talking about. That is sort of a 'western-style showdown' cue cheesy music. That sort of tense moment when they all face off before everyone starts fighting.

Then the end in the book with Harry and Voldemort is definitely a 'western-style showdown' with them both circling each other and then both pull their wands and getting their one shot though i think we can assume that this is going to be different in the films in some way or other.

Yeah I agree with this. Thats what makes me think of "western style showdown".

Why exactly does DH2 have to start with an action sequence? I understand if we start at Shell Cottage with the trio talking to Griphook and Ollivander and then planning the Gringott's breakin, that would mean a lot of talking and planning before we hit the first action sequence. That could be bad for the pacing and balance of the movie (for want of better words). But that problem will be avoided by including Harry's vision of Voldemort. And we could have scenes about what the DEs are up to or what happens at Hogwarts that have a bit of action, couldn't we?

I mean, I just don't think we have to start into DH2 with an action scene right way.


A cool way to present this would be to have the Trio and Griphook in voiceover describing how the break-in at Gringotts is supposed to happen, while we see the action as they are describing it happen, possibly showing comically the attitudes of each one about how cool and heroic they are going to be carrying out this mission. That way we have action and exposition hand-in-hand, and reintroduce the movie-only audience to Gringotts. And then the actual muck-up happening as it really played out can be shown and contrasted by the audience, with none of them being so virtuous as they had imagined they would be. And in fact, that is a theme that HP best shares with LOTR - that the heroes of each (the Trio and the hobbits) of these epic story arcs are shown to not be the larger-than-life epic heroes, but fairly normal overall with their fears and weaknesses, often just doing what they have to in order to survive.

I hope DH2 can be seen in 3D, that means more $ for it at the box office. :lol:
That would be REALLY amazing!

I like this little preview thing I came across on a list of the most anticipated movies of 2010...but what is up with the poster image?

So terrible...they just took this directly from HBP's promotional images, didn't they? :lol:

http://i46.tinypic.com/2e1gdis.png

Speaking of these most anticipated lists, browsing the web I've been surprised to find that DH isn't on some of 'em and it doesn't rank as high in polls as I figured it would. I thought this would be #1 for the majority but the polls I've seen don't even have DH in the Top 5 :hmm:

Speaking of these most anticipated lists, browsing the web I've been surprised to find that DH isn't on some of 'em and it doesn't rank as high in polls as I figured it would. I thought this would be #1 for the majority but the polls I've seen don't even have DH in the Top 5 :hmm:It's usually not until after the summer season is out of the way that films in the winter season start to get hyped up big.

It's usually not until after the summer season is out of the way that films in the winter season start to get hyped up big.

Sure, but come on...we're talking about Harry Potter here. ;) Hasn't hype been a constant for like the last 10 years? :p

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Damn, it's not even listed on the Fandango poll (http://www.fandango.com/movieblog/poll-your-most-anticpated-blockbuster-of-2010-587180.html) but clearly I'm not the only one that finds this strange judging by the comments :lol:

I don't remember a lot of hype for Avatar in early 2009 as well. So I guess it's not a problem. :P

Anyway I checked the DH List here and found that we've got the numbers of some scenes they've filmed.
Just for fun :P


Scene 33: Int. Burrow-Ron's Attic Room (Harry tosses fitfully on the floor)
Scene 35: Int.Burrow-Ron's Attic Room (Harry wakes up; wand in hand)
Most probably Harry has a nightmare with Voldemort torturing Ollivander or punishing the Death Eaters that they let Potter escape (?)

Scene 71: Harry,Ron and Hermione are in London and stun the three Ministry officials and transform into them. Obviously the scene before the Ministry of Magic heist.

Scene 89
Scene 91
Scene 98
Scene 100

These scenes include:
Ron chasing a rabbit in a forest
Trio listening to Potterwatch and learning something about Snape
Trio hearing a strange ticking noise and seeking to find what it is (I can't understand what's this scene actually)

Scene 139
Harry realises his wand is broken

Scene 140
Scene 141
Harry sees the Silver Doe Patronus and follows it in the depths of the forest.


Scene 145
Ron tells Harry and Hermione how he found them (Tent scene) and discussion about Dumbledore and Grindelwald.

Scene 159
The Snatchers chase/fight in the forest.


I found this piece of info as well!
"Filming was well underway in Swinley Forest, Berkshire with scenes of up to 20 deatheaters hunting the gang through the various forest locations, sending curses flying everywhere.Using five specially prepared areas, Harry, Ron and Hermione were running through the trees at full speed in their attempt to get away once again following their escape from the trap at Luna's house, set by Xenophilius. The forest doesn't contain a natural lake but we think it might be added later by the FX department. An impressive set was dressed with SFX 'snow' to be used in the Winter scenes while other sets were left natural."

So:

we're going to see snowy forest scenes. XD
They will create a lake with VFX. Probably next to the Lovegoods house.Interesting.
Big battle sequence from the Lovegoods house to the forest. Includes 20 Death Eaters.
Now THIS is very interesting. This obviously means that the Death Eaters who attack Xeno's house/tower chase the Trio in a forest. This is not the Snatchers scene for sure. The Snatchers are only 6 according to the sneak peek and the callsheets that have been released. So this pretty much confirms that we have three different action pieces in the climax of Part 1 (if Malfoy Manor is not included):
1. Death Eaters attack Xeno's house (confirmed: right side of the house has numerous holes from spells smashing. Logically more fights are included and according to rumors and dream_silently's info the house is destroyed in the end).
2. The Death Eaters chase the Trio in a forest. Big action sequence. The Trio escapes.
(The Trio apparates/hides(?) and they most probably discuss the Deathly Hallows and Harry accidentally says Voldemort's name)
3. 6 Snatchers attack the Trio and chase them in another forest and they eventually capture them.

This piece of information pretty much confirms what dream_silently was saying about the whole sequence after Xeno's house sequence. And this confirms various rumors about two forest battles in the climax of Part 1.

Now let's start and speculate about what happens in these scenes :P



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I hope that there is a chase scene with Death Eaters before the Snatchers scene and the people who reported this haven't confused the sequences. But since this scene includes 20 DEs and not only 6 (as in the scene with the Snatchers) I guess it's a different one. I hope so, at least. That would make the climax of Part 1 more action-packed I guess.

Sure, but come on...we're talking about Harry Potter here. ;) Hasn't hype been a constant for like the last 10 years? :p

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Damn, it's not even listed on the Fandango poll (http://www.fandango.com/movieblog/poll-your-most-anticpated-blockbuster-of-2010-587180.html) but clearly I'm not the only one that finds this strange judging by the comments :lol:OOTP wasn't even that highly anticipated this time of 2007. It was vastly overshadowed by Spider-Man 3, Pirates 3 and Transformers. And it was a summer film at that.

I remember this time 2008... it was all about Iron Man, Indy 4, TDK, and other summer films. That was a nov release at it's time.

Anticipation will pick up around summer, it's the nature of how things progress.

Trio hearing a strange ticking noise and seeking to find what it is (I can't understand what's this scene actually)

This isn't going to be some lame parody of potter pupet pals???
:no:
That would be a new low- Parodying a parody....

"Filming was well underway in Swinley Forest, Berkshire with scenes of up to 20 deatheaters hunting the gang through the various forest locations, sending curses flying everywhere.Using five specially prepared areas, Harry, Ron and Hermione were running through the trees at full speed in their attempt to get away once again following their escape from the trap at Luna's house, set by Xenophilius. The forest doesn't contain a natural lake but we think it might be added later by the FX department. An impressive set was dressed with SFX 'snow' to be used in the Winter scenes while other sets were left natural."

So:

we're going to see snowy forest scenes. XD
They will create a lake with VFX. Probably next to the Lovegoods house.Interesting.
Big battle sequence from the Lovegoods house to the forest. Includes 20 Death Eaters.
Now THIS is very interesting. This obviously means that the Death Eaters who attack Xeno's house/tower chase the Trio in a forest. This is not the Snatchers scene for sure. The Snatchers are only 6 according to the sneak peek and the callsheets that have been released. So this pretty much confirms that we have three different action pieces in the climax of Part 1 (if Malfoy Manor is not included):
1. Death Eaters attack Xeno's house (confirmed: right side of the house has numerous holes from spells smashing. Logically more fights are included and according to rumors and dream_silently's info the house is destroyed in the end).
2. The Death Eaters chase the Trio in a forest. Big action sequence. The Trio escapes.
(The Trio apparates/hides(?) and they most probably discuss the Deathly Hallows and Harry accidentally says Voldemort's name)
3. 6 Snatchers attack the Trio and chase them in another forest and they eventually capture them.

This piece of information pretty much confirms what dream_silently was saying about the whole sequence after Xeno's house sequence. And this confirms various rumors about two forest battles in the climax of Part 1.

Now let's start and speculate about what happens in these scenes :P

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I hope that there is a chase scene with Death Eaters before the Snatchers scene and the people who reported this haven't confused the sequences. But since this scene includes 20 DEs and not only 6 (as in the scene with the Snatchers) I guess it's a different one. I hope so, at least. That would make the climax of Part 1 more action-packed I guess.

I have always thought that the quote mean there were 20 death eaters / snatchers on set that day and they were filming more then one scene at a time, so not all the death eaters / snatchers where in the same scene.

Also in the snatcher chase scene in the shot where they are running down the hill with Harry in the lead and Hermione behind him, you are right that there are only six snatchers, but Ron is no longer with them at this moment suggesting that during the chase they all somehow get split up. I would think Ron ran one way and some of the snatchers chased him or have already captured him at this point.

There are also photos of Harry running alone which may suggest that Hermione also gets caught while Harry runs on though they may be simply filming closeups of Harry running for the scene. If they get split up Harry may then go back for Ron and Hermione though i don't know if we can know how that works. They may also split up on purpose to meet up later thinking that the snatchers would chase Harry first.

I think that what may suggest that there is a lull during the scene before Harry is captured is that he is not 'stung' in these photos of the snatcher chase scene and there are reports of Harry on set looking like he had been run over by a bus. If they all split up and then meet somewhere later on, that is when there is a lull and they have a conversation. It is also possible that Harry stings himself or that Harry and Hermione get away and go back for Ron and that the conversation is between Harry and Hermione and she then stings him. I am just not sure that we have enough information to know for certain, but i do think the trio splitting up and meeting later is the simplest and makes the most sense.

I think it is a little odd that they would allow themselves to get split up or that if Ron got captured that Hermione wouldn't go back for him regardless of what he said. We do know that there are six snatchers mentioned in that call sheet after they have been captured and are giving false names.

Scene 159. Exterior Pine Forest. Synopsis: Greyback and Scabior question them, they give false names. Evening 18, Winter. Cast: Daniel Radcliffe (Harry Potter), Rupert Grint (Ron Weasley), Emma Watson (Hermione Granger), Dave Legeno (Fenrir Greyback), Nick Moran (Scabior), Samuel Roukin (Snatcher), and 4 stunt snatchers and 2 sets of stunt doubles.

If there is a lull where they have a conversation, i think it only makes sense that they would take the time to discuss the death hallows if they thought they were safe. If they thought they were in danger or if even one of them was already captured, i don't think it makes sense that they would be sitting around having a conversation about the deathly hallows which is why i think that them splitting up and meeting makes the most sense. We just don't really know and i am totally speculating based on the little we know.

Regardless of whether or not there is a lull between the two moments, i still think that the xenophilius scene and the capture scene as well as malfoy manor and later shell cottage are all one very long day and night because they are all three wearing the same clothes in these scenes.

PS. I don't think we have to worry about the end of Part 1 being action pact. I think that there looks like there will be plenty of action.

Wait for the teaser trailers to hit and I bet you'll see the movies appear on these polls.

-JR

It looks fantastic, just saw it yesterday. what do you guyz think?

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Words cannot express how I'm dying to watch these two movies. I don't think I'll be able to sleep properly a week before the release of each movie.

This isn't going to be some lame parody of potter pupet pals???
:no:
That would be a new low- Parodying a parody....
What would be worse if they added a scene where Harry was confronting Snape and he yelled "SNAPE" SNAPE! SEVERUS SNAPE!". Now that would be a new low.

It looks fantastic, just saw it yesterday. what do you guyz think?

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What are you talking about?

What are you talking about?

I think they probably mean the trailer that came out with the DVD/Blu-Ray... given the fact that they say it "looks fantastic."

Woops, my fault - sorry. The post title had the hint, but I edited out the still not legal link and overlooked, that it wouldn't be readable after that any more.

It's the teaser which came with the HBP dvd, yep.

So is it confirmed that Emma Thompson isn't going to reprise her role as Trelawney in Deathly Hallows because she was dedicated to Nanny McPhee 2?

So is it confirmed that Emma Thompson isn't going to reprise her role as Trelawney in Deathly Hallows because she was dedicated to Nanny McPhee 2?
Well Nanny McPhee 2 is done, to the best of my knowledge, and Maggie Smith, Ralph Fiennes, and Rhys Ifans were all in it, and they are all in DH too. If Emma Thompson really refused to come down on the set for just a scene or two, I don't think I will have the same respect for her.
But yes, last we hear she was not coming back, but thing change.

Well Nanny McPhee 2 is done, to the best of my knowledge, and Maggie Smith, Ralph Fiennes, and Rhys Ifans were all in it, and they are all in DH too. If Emma Thompson really refused to come down on the set for just a scene or two, I don't think I will have the same respect for her.
But yes, last we hear she was not coming back, but thing change.

I agree, I will lose a lot of the respect I have for her as an actress. I know Trelawney didn't have too much of a role in the book, but she had a role. They are bringing back so many of the characters/actors for the final 2 movies, especially for the last one, and she wasn't willing to sign up for it, even if it meant only a couple days on set? All because of Nanny McPhee 2?

I hate to say it, and at risk at being a jerk or something, but that is jut not right.

Yeah it's strange. Actually I hated her performance in PoA and OotP. Yes Trelawney is supposed to be over the top but Thompson was not inspiring at all.
Anyway, her only scene in DH2 is the one where she throws a crystal ball on a Death Eater I think. Less than a minute of screentime. And I'm pretty sure it would be funny and awkward, while the entire battle is supposed to be intense and full of twists and serious moments.
Anyway, filming for NannyMcPhee wrapped few months ago, right?
And the filming of the battle started sometime in October and will wrap sometime in late Spring. I am sure she could go on set for 2-3 days just to shoot her tiny scene. Other British actors 'die' to participate in the films and she ignores them. Whatever.

Yes, even though, in the book, Trelawney has one scene, they could up her role a bit in the movie. It has yet to be revealed that Snape overheard the prophecy... to be honest, they didn't do anything at all with that bit in the movies, but they could use that in "The Prince's Tale" portion of the movie, and Trelawney could be in the scene and we overhear the prophecy there. I mean... if only just to put Trelawney into the scene other then just a two second shot of her in the Hogwarts Battle. If they thought about it, they really could have upped her role.

ETA: In other news, here a couple behind the scenes pictures of simply Emma and Rupert... might have been released before... the background reminds me of the camping tent scenes we got a few months back.

http://www.shockya.com/news/2010/01/15/more-behind-the-scenes-of-deathly-hallows/

I agree with the sentiment that it was highly unlikely that Thompson refused to return because of "scheduling" difficulties. I have always thought that was a cover. I suspected they did not up her part beyond a mere cameo or didn't include her at all. This is the same production team that wrote her character out of the one movie -HBP- that would have used her the most. In any event, I suspect she knows more about her reasons than we all do and she doesn't strike me as an egomaniac.

Any scene, no matter how brief in the movie, involve more than just a couple hours "trip to the set." They involve time- in makeup, wardrobe and sitting around etc. Whatever the dispute was, I will bet she had a good reason not to do it. :)

Yeah, I would have loved it if they made the Prince's Tale into a half hour almost 'mini-movie' that tracks Snape's journey from his childhood meeting with Lily (where he talks about his abusive father and how his parents fight all the time) all through his blooming romance with her, fit the Marauders story in with Snape's jealousy, the break-up in Snape's Worst memory and Lily's rejection of an apology, Snape becoming a death eater, to the actual memory of Snape overhearing a piece of the prophecy and going to tell Voldemort begging him to spare her, only to go to Dumbledore and switch sides because of Voldemort targeting Lily, etc etc.

The Prince's Tale had the potential to explain everything that was cut out of POA and OOTP in regards to the Marauder's back story and the entire Prophecy back story and would have wrapped EVERYTHING up.

Yeah...it's odds on, this scene will explain all of that. :lol: But you know, if they were clever they would be able to include all of that and make it only 15 minutes. The scenes would have to be short but full of substance.

I think it really would work, especially with a Shell Cottage/Dobby's burial split. They would definitely have enough time. In terms of pacing, after this supposed hour and a half or so of battles and war, the audience wouldn't mind a break from fighting for a touching tragic love story that wraps up the entire story and finally explains what was up with Snape. The film could really dramatize the Snape/Lily love story as films have the potential to do. It was really moving in the book, but the adaption would require a more direct romance between the two. Perhaps a first kiss where they stare into each others eyes (making "Look at me" all the more powerful). Something like that. Hopefully, not too cheesy, but you know...just sappy and sad enough. :p

I agree with the sentiment that it was highly unlikely that Thompson refused to return because of "scheduling" difficulties. I have always thought that was a cover. I suspected they did not up her part beyond a mere cameo or didn't include her at all. This is the same production team that wrote her character out of the one movie -HBP- that would have used her the most. In any event, I suspect she knows more about her reasons than we all do and she doesn't strike me as an egomaniac.

Thank you for saying that, Bscorp. :tu:

I have been annoyed by the comments about Emma Thompson, who is a credit to the British film industry. As well as being a fine actress, she wrote the screenplay for Ang Lee's excellent adaptation of Sense and Sensibility (1995) as well as starring in the film as Elinor. I respect her very much. Sorry to break it to you, HP fandom, but this fine actress doesn't owe you a thing. :no:

The films have a great ensemble cast and while I shall miss Trelawney, it's not like she's a major part.

Master of Death ... I'm loving your Snape/Lily scenario. :p :)

There is no word that she will be replaced with another actress right? As much as I did not like Thompson's performance and is indifferent to her being in DH, I would absolutely hate it if they replaced her with another actress. I hate it when films do that for the most part.

-JR

There is no word that she will be replaced with another actress right? As much as I did not like Thompson's performance and is indifferent to her being in DH, I would absolutely hate it if they replaced her with another actress. I hate it when films do that for the most part.

-JR
Yeah agreed. Except in the case of Lavender Brown. Jessie Cave is AMAZING!
And really, she is being a jerk about this. People would sell their soul to be in a Potter film, and she turns it down to work on a movie that probably will not be that good.

and she turns it down to work on a movie that probably will not be that good.

Which is entirely her prerogative and her creative decision.

And really, she is being a jerk about this. People would sell their soul to be in a Potter film, and she turns it down to work on a movie that probably will not be that good.

Which people?

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I watched HBP tonight and I realised, once again, how beautiful the landscape during the climax was.
The gathering clouds in the sky, the beautiful colour palette of Bruno Delbonnel, the amazing lighting on the Astronomy Tower, the build-up to the invasion of the Death Eaters and the amazing wide shots of Snape and Harry duelling beneath the castle and the Dark Mark.
Oh god.
We know that the Battle of Hogwarts is going to be huge and epic and it will last much much longer but I hope that they will keep a poetic and artistic approach to the landscape and the whole 'gothic' and other-world-y aesthetics of the grounds and castle of Hogwarts.
I mean, the Astronomy Tower was such a fascinating set, IMO. I hope they will use it a lot in the film as it added a lot to the overall dark feel of the climax of HBP. Not to mention the expansion of the Grounds. If dream_silently is for real and since they introduced larger slopes leading to Hagrid's Hut, the Gates and Great Walls that protect Hogwarts then I really can't wait to see how the entire sequence at Hogwarts will turn out to be.
They can truly make a perfect finale to the entire series. Epic battle sequences at Hogwarts Castle & Grounds, a stellar cast, an amazing score (logically John Williams or another exceptional composer since it's the last film anyway), some beautiful and touching scenes with Snape's past, Harry's 'death' and Dumbledore's revelations and all of these scenes combined with a very poetic and artsy landscape and background reminiscent of HBP and PoA's climax scenes.

Sorry but I had to express all that. I was blown away. The HBP climax has a truly phenomenal cinematography.