Way Ahead for Deathly Hallows Movie(s)

Emma Thompson was absolutely magnificent in the films, but she made the choice to work on another project that's dear to her instead of simply appearing in a small cameo for Deathly Hallows Part II, which is entirely her prerogative and her creative decision, as Pearl Took so succinctly put it. I don't see how she's being a jerk by politely declining the role in order to focus on something else, unless there's evidence of her badmouthing the team behind Harry Potter to justify the departure (imo, it doesn't need a justification at all, since she has already devoted her time as an actress to two movies), which is not how Emma is. That's my two cents on this matter.

As an actor myself I don't see how you can be mad at Emma Thompson. She is simply doing what's best for her.

So what does everyone think hair color Tonks will have in the films? I am hoping for purple again!

So what does everyone think hair color Tonks will have in the films? I am hoping for purple again!

I can't remember if there were descriptions of her hair in the book, but if she is in that depressed/troubled mood again, it will probably be brown, the same as in Half-Blood Prince. Though when she gets married and pregnant... I expect she will be pretty happy, even with all the war-stuff going on, so she might have color-changing hair then.

I think Lupin and Tonks get married over the summer and are already pregnant at Bill and Fleur's wedding. I think they should give her some nice brightly colored hair as well.

I like the brown hair though. The purple wig in OotP was actually ridiculous.
I'd like very short dark brown/dark purple hair. That would be awesome.
And I loved Tonks' outfit at the Burrow scene in HBP. I hope she has decent screentime in both DH parts.

Ah, this brings back memories...talking about hair! :lol: :p For those that don't know, while we were awaiting HBP this is what the discussions commonly deteriorated to when there was no news to discuss...

For the record, I like the bright colors as well :tu:

Another huuuuuuge post from Dream_silently:



There is a scene where Rufus Scrimgeour goes to the Burrow in order to give Dumbledore's will to the Trio. I don't know if Lupin is supposed to be there but I'm pretty certain he is. The Burrow is officially their new Headquarters in Deathly Hallows.


No McGonagall doesn't transform into a cat. But yes she has some action scenes with Death Eaters during the Battle of Hogwarts. The only scene I know that is included is one that happens in a courtyard and McGonagall, along with others, duel with Death Eaters causing the destruction of half the place there.

Fan,
I've seen the sneak peek and it's Ollivander. Ollivander knows about the Deathly Hallows yes. Actually he says it's a legend, a myth and describes it. Harry and Ollivander have already talked about the Elder Wand and Voldemort's mysterious journey.

I don't know much about Snape's memories, I'm afraid. But I think the prophecy is included. Expect lots but very short memory scenes.

Yes there is a scene where Harry and Hermione go to a large meadow/valley and see burned caravans. It's been filmed months ago, I think.

I don't know if they're re-using Snape's worst memories.

Voldemort goes to the Gaunts house only to find the ring is gone.

Official poster?
The only poster I know that's been circulating at the studios is the title of the film in front of a completely black background.
I think the trailer will be released around Easter or early Summer.
Part 1 officially wraps shooting in February. I guess they'll need few months to work on some bits in order to release a nice teaser.
I know they've been working on the 7 Potters and Lovegoods' House battle scenes. Especially 7 Potters will be quite difficult and challenging but in the end I think it will be captivating.



I don't have major updates though.
They keep shooting at Leavesden. They don't use the exterior sets because of the snow and the bad weather. But they've been shooting lot of scenes at major set pieces: the Muggleborn Registration Commission set, the Ministry of Magic Atrium, the Great Hall, the Astronomy Tower, battlements, Great Walls and corridors of the Hogwarts Castle.
Filming the Ministry battle will wrap very soon from what I know. And it will turn out to be an extraordinary sequence. The duel with Umbridge and the Death Eaters is being filmed as well as the exit of the Muggleborns and the Trio to the Atrium which causes a major skirmish before the Trio manages to apparate to the woods. Dementors are also included in the sequence but I am sure they've filmed that bit.
I guess they want to wrap shooting the Ministry scenes as soon as possible in order to fully focus on the Battle.
Ralph Fiennes has wrapped all his scenes for Part 1 as well.
The Gringotts sequence was partially shot in late Summer and Autumn of 2009 but there are bits shot in January and others to be shot in February.
That's all I know. I've got to leave now. I'm ill and I need some rest.
Hopefully I'll be able to visit the site almost every day after the end of February. Much much more free time.And I'll give you few parts of the only parts of the script I've got (only Part 1 I'm afraid). Anyway I've got to go.
Have a perfect day you all.

Prophecy in The prince's Tale?? Many short memories?! This is just what I was saying I wanted yesterday! :scared: :whistle: :wow: This is...great news. I'm assuming he just means the prophecy will be mentioned, but maybe he means we will see Snape spying on Trelawny and Dumbledore at the Hogs head? They could easily recast Emma Thompson. With all due respect, I don't think she did such a great job in that role. She was over the top and ridiculous, IMO. All they would need to do is dress another similar looking actress in that costume and espcially those glasses and we've got Sybll.

This is all very, very interesting.

Prophecy in The prince's Tale?? Many short memories?! This is just what I was saying I wanted yesterday! :scared: :whistle: :wow:

Me too! :clap:



This is...great news. I'm assuming he just means the prophecy will be mentioned, but maybe he means we will see Snape spying on Trelawny and Dumbledore at the Hogs head? They could easily recast Emma Thompson. With all due respect, I don't think she did such a great job in that role. She was over the top and ridiculous, IMO. All they would need to do is dress another similar looking actress in that costume and espcially those glasses and we've got Sybll.

This is all very, very interesting.

To be honest, they wouldn't really need to actually have Trelawney in this scene. Just use the Prophecy from Order of the Phoenix, with Snape over-hearing it and stufff. IMO, that would be a good way, especially so they can keep up the continuity and keep the prophecy exactly how it sounded.

If they don't cast Emma Thompson (let's face it: Trelawney's role was underused in PoA and OotP. Why should they cast her in DH?) I doubt they'll cast anyone else.
And I think he means there will be a mention. Maybe a scene where Snape goes to Voldemort telling him about the prophecy and then the scene where Dumbledore questions Snape about what he has revealed to Voldemort.
Dream_Silently has confirmed that most memories include Dumbledore and Voldemort. So I guess in the beginning we'll see few scenes with Lily and Snape at Hogwarts and then both of them adults and Lily married to James and Snape going to the 'dark' side and then the whole prophecy/Harry's protection/Snape's double-agency stuff starts.
I truly cannot wait to see the Prince's Tale on screen!!

Oh dear God , I´ve forgotten how to quote you guys in here... anyway...Prophecy in The prince's Tale?? Many short memories?!

all I can say is , wohooooo, that is how I wanted it and hoped it would be. I truly cannot wait to see the Prince's Tale on screen!
I am kind of feeling the same way, but part of me does not want to see it, I am experiencing a very bittersweet feeling about this film.
I simply don´t want it all to end.
To be honest, they wouldn't really need to actually have Trelawney in this scene. Just use the Prophecy from Order of the Phoenix, with Snape over-hearing it and stufff. IMO, that would be a good way, especially so they can keep up the continuity and keep the prophecy exactly how it sounded.

I agree, I don´t think the non readers even know it was trelawney who made the prophesy, as far as I know, no non reader understood really that Dumbledore could not let Umbridge send Trewlaney away because of the prophesy , I could bet they thought he was just defending his teachers .And us , we know it was her, they could focus on Snape and DD .

Hei... I just realized that these two scenes are different (look at Harry's outift):

http://i50.tinypic.com/1z5szuf.png

http://i49.tinypic.com/1y6ecl.png

We can surely tell that the second is the snatcher-chase scene...but what about the first?

If this boat house location for Snape's death is true, i wonder if the location will have some other significance in the film. I wonder if they will show another memory with Snape and Lilly in this place or if that is where Snape will meet Dumbledore and flip sides and agree to spy on Voldemort. I still don't get what they mean by boat house and how the trio are supposed to sneak up and hear this conversation in a place like that. That seems a little odd, but what can you do. I am assuming that the place Snape dies will have some sort of significance to Snape.

Okrim, i am assuming that the other chase scene takes place earlier in the film while the trio are camping because they aren't wearing coats. It is always possible that this is a scene at the end the film. We just don't know.

PS. I am not sure if that made sense. I mean that i think the other chase scene will take place about half way through Part 1 while the trio is camping before Ron leaves, but that it is also possible that there is some sort of fighting in the forest at the end of Part 2 though i think that unlikely, but nevertheless a possibility. I was talking about the film as if it was all one long film and not split into two parts.

If this boat house location for Snape's death is true, i wonder if the location will have some other significance in the film. I wonder if they will show another memory with Snape and Lilly in this place or if that is where Snape will meet Dumbledore and flip sides and agree to spy on Voldemort. I still don't get what they mean by boat house and how the trio are supposed to sneak up and hear this conversation in a place like that. That seems a little odd, but what can you do. I am assuming that the place Snape dies will have some sort of significance to Snape.

I think it should too and at the moment the boat house means nothing, so I assume they might come up with a scenario like the one above. I've also been thinking along those lines, simply because that is the only thing that is left that will have some sort of impact. Also, dream silently was making it sound like it was going to be really interesting so he doesn't want to say where it is going to be. For it to be interesting and for someone to keep it under wraps it would have to have some significance.

And the boat house location in the video game is on the docks, so I assumed that's where it would be in the movie too.

Anyway, I'm still a bit iffy on dream silently. He says he doesn't have the script for Part 2 yet he has given details to Snape's memories, and also said he doesn't know much about them. Which is it? He's said that Alan Rickman shot a scene with lots of students, yet just prior to dream silently's comments Rickman himself said that he had only done scenes with Fiennes, and was still in New York when dream silently mentioned that. I suppose he could just be getting mixed up and telling the truth as he knows it. Hard to say.

A lot of things he's come up with sound cool, but I'm not getting my hopes up until I see more concrete proof that he's working on the films.

More interesting info from dream_silently!

He says that he's gonna post parts of the script at the end of february. I guess we can see from that if it seems real or not..

Thanks for posting this JoAdams. Although most of what dream_silently posted was old stuff and stuff he (she?) had already posted before.


There is a scene where Rufus Scrimgeour goes to the Burrow in order to give Dumbledore's will to the Trio. Bill Nighy talked about that scene already in an interview in July last year. So it's nothing new.

Fan,
I've seen the sneak peek and it's Ollivander. Ollivander knows about the Deathly Hallows yes. Actually he says it's a legend, a myth and describes it. Harry and Ollivander have already talked about the Elder Wand and Voldemort's mysterious journey. This is what I already wondered when I saw the DH sneak peek, and I still do. Wonder, I mean. If it's Ollivander who knows everything about the Hallows and tells Harry, what do we need Xenophilius Lovegood for? Help me out, do I forget something important? Xeno's sole purpose in DH was to provide the trio with the tale about the Hallows, right? Now this function is given to Ollivander. Doesn't that make Xeno redundant? :hmm:

If this boat house location for Snape's death is true, i wonder if the location will have some other significance in the film.Hasn't dream_silently himself debunked the boathouse rumour? I am pretty sure I've read a spoiler by him when he said he knew nothing about a boathouse at all.

Okrim, i am assuming that the other chase scene takes place earlier in the film while the trio are camping because they aren't wearing coats. It is always possible that this is a scene at the end the film. We just don't know.If dream_silently is legit, then we will have Harry and Ron fighting against DEs and/or snatchers at the end of the Silver Doe part, shortly before they go back to the tent. And if I got this right, we will have snatchers chasing the trio from the Lovegoods house and again snatchers chasing the trio through the woods, before they catch them and bring them to Malfoy Manor. Although the latter two could be one and the same. I am sure we'll see at least one additional "trio gets chased by the bad guys" scene before DH1 ends.


Anyway, I'm still a bit iffy on dream silently.[..] He's said that Alan Rickman shot a scene with lots of students, yet just prior to dream silently's comments Rickman himself said that he had only done scenes with Fiennes, and was still in New York when dream silently mentioned that. Shortly after dream_silently reported about Snape giving this speech to students Rickman talked about having filmed exactly such a scene in an interview. I read that on one of the HP sites. Don't remember which magazine it was for though.

But why Ron and Harry would chase DEs/Snatchers trought the forest?
Then again, Harry doesn't have the sword with him.

I'm starting to feel they are infusing part one with a little TOO much action. :shrug: I mean how many chases can there be in one movie? It might be get a little repetitive..

Then again, I guess they are going with the Empire Strikes Back style where Han, Leia Chewie and 3PO were constantly on the run from the empire and the empire was on their tail for the entire movie until the end where they are finally captured but escape minus Han Solo. in DH1's case minus Dobby. If they split after Dobby's burial of-course.

The structure of DH1 is shaping up to be very similar. Substitute the Seven Potters with the Battle of Hoth, the pursuit of the empire with the pursuit of the death eaters, the Emperer with Voldemort, Darth Vader with Snape. Substitute Bespin/Cloud city with Malfoy Manor, Han with Dobby, Xeno Lovegood as Lando (someone they thought was an ally and who's place was finally a safe haven but who betrays them for a good reason), Ron and Hermione as Han and Leia, etc etc.

I used to say that HBP would be the ESB of the series and the ending of the film sorta was in terms of tone, feeling, urgency and drama, but the more I think about it, the more I realize HBP resembles ANH (the original Star Wars) what with the death of the wise mentor: Obi Wan/Dumbledore. HBP was also lighter and more whimsical like ANH. DH1 will be intense, very emotional, dark and always on the run, a lot like ESB.

Another way DH1 will mirror ESB is how in ESB, Luke learns a terrible secret about his legacy and that his mentor Obi Wan had been lying to him all along. In DH1, Harry learns a terrible secret about the Dumbledore legacy, he learns more about his own lineage (Peverell) and that Dumbledore had been keeping secrets from him.

I'm starting to feel they are infusing part one with a little TOO much action. :shrug: I mean how many chases can there be in one movie? It might be get a little repetitive..

Then again, I guess they are going with the Empire Strikes Back style where Han, Leia Chewie and 3PO were constantly on the run from the empire and the empire was on their tail for the entire movie until the end where they are finally captured but escape minus Han Solo. in DH1's case minus Dobby. If they split after Dobby's burial of-course.

The structure of DH1 is shaping up to be very similar. Substitute the Seven Potters with the Battle of Hoth, the pursuit of the empire with the pursuit of the death eaters, the Emperer with Voldemort, Darth Vader with Snape. Substitute Bespin/Cloud city with Malfoy Manor, Han with Dobby, Peter Pettigrew as Lando Calrissian (but with a different twist of-course), Ron and Hermione as Han and Leia, etc etc.

I used to say that HBP would be the ESB of the series and the ending of the film sorta was in terms of tone, feeling, urgency and drama, but the more I think about it, the more I realize HBP resembles ANH (the original Star Wars) what with the death of the wise mentor: Obi Wan/Dumbledore. HBP was also lighter and more whimsical like ANH. DH1 will be intense, very emotional, dark and always on the run, a lot like ESB.

Another way DH1 will mirror ESB is how in ESB, Luke learns a terrible secret about his legacy and that his mentor Obi Wan had been lying to him all along. In DH1, Harry learns a terrible secret about the Dumbledore legacy, he learns more about his own lineage (Peverell) and that Dumbledore had been keeping secrets from him.

I actually like that idea, and I remember that I wanted HBP, DH1 and DH2 to feel like a trilogy ("the quest for the Horcruxes" or something like that). However, HBP seriously dissapointed me, and it feels to unconected to the Deathly Hallows plots.

Anyways, you'll have to agree that the only way for DH1 to work as TESB is to end after Malfoy Mannor :p

Even though there "terrible secret" about Dumbledore is less interesting than the "terrible secret" about Vader.:whistle:

ESB is the best of all the Star Wars films, so that is hopeful in my opinion though no ewoks for RotJ.

Hasn't dream_silently himself debunked the boathouse rumor? I am pretty sure I've read a spoiler by him when he said he knew nothing about a boathouse at all.

He did say that it wasn't there, but he also won't say where it is because 'he doesn't want to give it away'. I just don't know about that.

If dream_silently is legit, then we will have Harry and Ron fighting against DEs and/or snatchers at the end of the Silver Doe part, shortly before they go back to the tent. And if I got this right, we will have snatchers chasing the trio from the Lovegoods house and again snatchers chasing the trio through the woods, before they catch them and bring them to Malfoy Manor. Although the latter two could be one and the same. I am sure we'll see at least one additional "trio gets chased by the bad guys" scene before DH1 ends.

I think i dislike the idea of the death eaters/snatchers attacking right after the silver doe scene. It is such a great moment in the book with Ron and Hermione. I am almost worried that there will be too much battle and not enough character development though one of the director or producer guys said something about the films being character driven, so i won't give up hope.

But why Ron and Harry would chase DEs/Snatchers through the forest? Then again, Harry doesn't have the sword with him.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/other%20chase/39.jpg
This is not the silver doe scene. Harry is wearing different clothes in that scene. He is wearing a high collared gray sweater/jumper with the cuffs turned back and jeans.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/silver%20doe/silverdoe2.jpg
I am not sure what scene it is from, but my best guess would be while camping before Ron leaves.

I think i dislike the idea of the death eaters/snatchers attacking right after the silver doe scene. It is such a great moment in the book with Ron and Hermione. I am almost worried that there will be too much battle and not enough character development though one of the director or producer guys said something about the films being character driven, so i won't give up hope.


I agree. Two chase scenes in the forest seems to be enough. What is ESB? Which Star Wars film is it?

Empire Strikes Back. It is the second Star Wars film. They end with Han frozen in suspended animation and Luke has just lost his hand and found out the big reveal of the films (which i won't give away in case someone should happen to live under a rock) and they are sort of in limbo. Though it isn't a cliffhanger in that the main characters are all about to die which is probably how we are going to feel at the end of DH Part 1, but it is a cliffhanger in that there is clearly more to come and more to be resolved.

I actually think it is very unlikely that DH Part 1 will end after dobby's death. I am still a little uneasy about where they seemed to have decided to end Part 1, but i am always going to hate it when the film ends regardless of where they split because i am going to want to watch Part 2.

Im trying to watch the trailer carefully and look at pictures and stuff to see about the chase scenes but I can't figure it out. Maybe someone who belongs to harrypotterforum can ask dream about this (if it hasn't been asked already).

I'm starting to feel they are infusing part one with a little TOO much action. :shrug: I mean how many chases can there be in one movie? It might be get a little repetitive..

Then again, I guess they are going with the Empire Strikes Back style where Han, Leia Chewie and 3PO were constantly on the run from the empire and the empire was on their tail for the entire movie until the end where they are finally captured but escape minus Han Solo. in DH1's case minus Dobby. If they split after Dobby's burial of-course.

The structure of DH1 is shaping up to be very similar. Substitute the Seven Potters with the Battle of Hoth, the pursuit of the empire with the pursuit of the death eaters, the Emperer with Voldemort, Darth Vader with Snape. Substitute Bespin/Cloud city with Malfoy Manor, Han with Dobby, Xeno Lovegood as Lando (someone they thought was an ally and who's place was finally a safe haven but who betrays them for a good reason), Ron and Hermione as Han and Leia, etc etc.

I used to say that HBP would be the ESB of the series and the ending of the film sorta was in terms of tone, feeling, urgency and drama, but the more I think about it, the more I realize HBP resembles ANH (the original Star Wars) what with the death of the wise mentor: Obi Wan/Dumbledore. HBP was also lighter and more whimsical like ANH. DH1 will be intense, very emotional, dark and always on the run, a lot like ESB.

Another way DH1 will mirror ESB is how in ESB, Luke learns a terrible secret about his legacy and that his mentor Obi Wan had been lying to him all along. In DH1, Harry learns a terrible secret about the Dumbledore legacy, he learns more about his own lineage (Peverell) and that Dumbledore had been keeping secrets from him.

Thank you MOD, I was thinking the exact same thing. I pictured HBP, DH1, and DH2 to be three parts of a larger final story. HBP is the "A New Hope" where we get the set up for the quest, DH1 will be the "Empire" where the heroes are chased all over the place and they will hit rock bottom while the main character finds out a major fact about himself that no one bothered to tell him (the Hallows and/or Peverell), and in DH2, we will have the final battle and death of the villian and our happy ending like in "Return of the Jedi."

-JR

Dream_silently said:

"A boathouse? Where did you find/learnt hat?
The only thing I can tell you is that it's not in the Shrieking Shack and it's a very interesting place where the death happens"

Sorry I don't remember this very clearly but..he said something like that...
So he didn't say anything about the death scene not taking place in a boathouse...
Actually I thought that if it wasn't there he would have told us right away...it seemed like he hinted the scene does take place in a boathouse...


And he said he doesn't have the script for Part 2 but I think it's logical for him to know more stuff about that...hearing from the set, participating in the artwork etc. of the Prince's tale scenes etc.




I still don't understand the significance of this completely new set...
will we see anything else including Snape that may be important as well???

I got the impression from dream's comment on the boathouse like he didn't hear that it was in a boathouse. like questioning it. I think he was saying that it wasn't in a boathouse but somewhere else, but he wouldn't say where. (except that it's not in the Shrieking Shack)

I was under the impression from his comments that he was surprised that we knew that it would be in the boat house and thought this would be a cool surprise for the fans so he refused to give any information on it but not denying it either.

-JR

I guess we should ask him again :P

I felt the same way JR637 did about his comment...
I remember him saying there was a Hogwarts set at the shores of the Black Lake.
Maybe the boathouse? He didn't want to tell us where Snape dies.Yet he doesn't deny the boathouse may be the place by saying "I won't reveal this" and after few days/weeks he says a set has been filmed and is supposed to be next to the lake. What else could it be???

I'm starting to feel they are infusing part one with a little TOO much action. :shrug: I mean how many chases can there be in one movie? It might be get a little repetitive.

Yeah, I hear you. I'm slightly worried about this too...

And wasn't there complaints from some about the book being too repetitive already with all the narrow escapes? (Ministry, Godric's Hollow, Xeno, etc) It didn't really bother me, but I guess it was a bit repetitive. Hopefully they can make it feel exciting with each situation. :whistle:

Yeah, I hear you. I'm slightly worried about this too...

And wasn't there complaints from some about the book being too repetitive already with all the narrow escapes? (Ministry, Godric's Hollow, Xeno, etc) It didn't really bother me, but I guess it was a bit repetitive. Hopefully they can make it feel exciting with each situation. :whistle:

If done correctly, I don't think it will be repeatative. Yes they are being attacked and escape narrowly multiple times, but it's not like they are repeatedly trying to break into the MoM or something they are escaping from different places with different people trying to catch them. I think it will be suspenceful and we will love it. On the flip side, when the movie does hit, I'm sure some critics will pick up on this as a negative but when I read the books, it was all different situations and did not feel repeatative to me.

-JR

I'm referring to all of these apparent forest chases. Why are there so many death eater chases through the woods?

I'm worried about this Silver Doe death eater fight dream_silently has mentioned. There does NOT need to be a fight scene there. It's an emotional, character driven scene that does not need a skirmish! From the sound of it, they've already got plenty of action and a fight at the point would be stupid. It would greatly disturb the brilliance of that scene.

Shortly after dream_silently reported about Snape giving this speech to students Rickman talked about having filmed exactly such a scene in an interview. I read that on one of the HP sites. Don't remember which magazine it was for though.

The interview was on December 7th in NYC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU98Xh5gJk4) and I was there. ;) Also at that interview, Rickman said that he had only shot stuff with Fiennes, and was going to be shooting something with 300 kids. I actually suggested that dream silently may be right in that they would be showing more stuff at Hogwarts based on the interview. However, a week or two later dream silently posted that Rickman had filmed with Hogwarts students or (scenes at Hogwarts), but at that time Rickman was still in NY. He was sighted here often at least up to the first week of January. So unless there were scenes at Hogwarts with Voldemort I'm not sure things are quite matching up. It's possible he could be going by what Rickman said and misinterpreted.

The interview was on December 7th in NYC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU98Xh5gJk4) and I was there. ;) Also at that interview, Rickman said that he had only shot stuff with Fiennes, and was going to be shooting something with 300 kids. I actually suggested that dream silently may be right in that they would be showing more stuff at Hogwarts based on the interview. However, a week or two later dream silently posted that Rickman had filmed with Hogwarts students or (scenes at Hogwarts), but at that time Rickman was still in NY. He was sighted here often at least up to the first week of January. So unless there were scenes at Hogwarts with Voldemort I'm not sure things are quite matching up. It's possible he could be going by what Rickman said and misinterpreted.

ahhh. good point there. rickman couldn't have filmed the hogwarts speech because he was still in new york...

Dream_silently said that Snape gives a speech before Rickman's interview. And he said that Rickman will shoot the scene not that he has already shot it.
:/


Anyway I am slightly concerned. If Part 1 has so many little skirmishes (don't forget that there is NO major action scene in the second half of Pt.1) and with a 'feel' of a road movie, I fear it will not be what many of us expect. Too much wandering into the wild, too many forest scenes..

I found that dream_silently said that after Ron saves Harry they see Death Eaters flying in the sky (?) and the two of them run away and when they meet Hermione they tell her to apparate and then they go up to some snowy mountains and the scene with Hermione's hysteria towards Ron happens. So I guess this won't be any action scene with fights and spells. Just an intense moment where the DEs have seen them and fly towards them and the Trio apparates just on time. Or something like that.
Personally, I hope this scene is either cut from the film or cut from the script. I feel it just doesn't work. It would be nice to see Harry and Ron having a nice chat on their way to the camping tent. I think the scene where Harry dives in the depths of the lake to find the Sword, the Locket tries to choke him, Ron dives, pulls Harry out of the water and grabs the Sword, the two of them reunit and Ron destroys the Locket and the 'Harry/Hermione' ghosts is a pretty action-packed, yet haunting and eerie sequence that will be ruined if a small skirmish is included afterwards. Don't they go to Hogsmeade Village after Ron's return? From what we've seen there's another chase/fight there.

Now that I mentioned it
What are they doing in Hogssmeade? Why would they risk to go there that early in the story? They can't meet Aberforth, since we know the scene with Neville and the Trio in a tunnel was shot and is supposed to happen after the Hog's Head scene which is right before the battle. Yet, Ciaran Hinds is cast for Part 1! If he only had any 'moving pictures' of Aberforth for Rita's book or something like that I highly doubt Warner Bros would credit him in the 20 basic actors and actresses of Part 1. :/:/

Anyway I am slightly concerned. If Part 1 has so many little skirmishes (don't forget that there is NO major action scene in the second half of Pt.1) and with a 'feel' of a road movie, I fear it will not be what many of us expect. Too much wandering into the wild, too many forest scenes..

To be honest, that is exactly how I envisage DH Part One, because the first part of the book is almost pretty much that. :whistle: As you say, there is no major action scene in the second half of DH Part 1, if you're going by the source material ... which is, IMO, a problem for the film-makers.

I have thought all along that the film-makers would pad the source material in order to provide enough material for the first film ... and the second.

I can only hope that their 'padding' is inventive, coherent and dynamic. :whistle:

I'm actually quite pleased with these action scenes being added in. I actually think DH1's forest scenes will turn out to be fantastic. Kloves adding the Harry/Hermione dance in the forest is pure genius.

I'm a HUGE Harmonian. :lol:

Now that I mentioned it
What are they doing in Hogsmeade? Why would they risk to go there that early in the story? They can't meet Aberforth, since we know the scene with Neville and the Trio in a tunnel was shot and is supposed to happen after the Hog's Head scene which is right before the battle. Yet, Ciaran Hinds is cast for Part 1! If he only had any 'moving pictures' of Aberforth for Rita's book or something like that I highly doubt Warner Bros would credit him in the 20 basic actors and actresses of Part 1. :/:/

It is possible that Aberforth is at the wedding or that he is in some photos. I think it would make sense to have him at the wedding.

Maybe they have the trio go to Hogsmeade as a way of showing that Harry thinks there is a horcrux at the school and to show the defenses around Hogsmeade. I am not saying it makes complete sense, but a little bit. I am assuming they accomplish nothing there, but getting away alive.

To be honest, that is exactly how I envisage DH Part One, because the first part of the book is almost pretty much that. :whistle: As you say, there is no major action scene in the second half of DH Part 1, if you're going by the source material ... which is, IMO, a problem for the film-makers.

I am going to have to disagree. If we consider the second half of Part 1 as after the start camping. We have Godric's hollow, Xenophilius Lovegood's, and the Capture scenes that are all major action scenes. The first part has the Seven Potters, the Wedding attack, and the Ministry Infiltration as major attack scenes.

The things that they may show that happen off screen in the book is Ron getting questioned by snatchers and then being able to fight his way free and escape and they may also show the trio being attacked in a town or by those trailers when looking for food. They may also just come upon the burnt out trailers. Both of those would be in the second part of Part 1.

In the first part of Part 1 they may show Dobby or Kreacher or the trio with them finding Mundungus in diagon alley.

They also filmed something on the Hogwarts express with Ginny, Luna, and Neville where presumably Luna gets taken by death eaters. I am not sure where they will show that whether as a flashback or within the timeline as it happens. I would think within the timeline.

The added scenes would be the other chase scene which we don't know enough about to even speculate. We know it is while they are camping and before Ron leaves. This may be another scene where they are attacked looking for food. We just don't know.

We do know that the trio enter some sort of wizard town when it is snowing, so most likely it is Hogsmeade. We know that there are wanted posters of Harry, so most likely it is a wizard town and we know that Ron is there and it is snowing, so after the Silver doe scene. I have no idea what is going on in this scene except the trio run. There may not even be a fight here.

There also may be action after the Silver doe scene, but that is just a rumor at this time.

I sort of get the Hogsmeade scene. I don't really like action added to the Silver doe scene. I really don't know enough about what is going on in the other chase scene to even have an opinion.

I still very much doubt there will be an action scene right after the Silver Doe scene...but seeing the pic of only Harry/Ron running does make me a bit suspicious...

I apologize for being repetitive, but i am fairly certain that photo is not after the silver doe scene. In the photo of Ron and Harry alone Harry is wearing a grayish hoodie with a blue shirt and jeans, but in the silver doe scene Harry is wearing a high collared gray sweater/jumper with the cuffs folded over and jeans.

I also think that there is one shot of Ron looking very scared in the sneak peek that could also be from the silver doe scene, but that is just my speculation.

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I think it's going to be really hard to decide where/when these chase scenes take place until we get more information. Pictures, interviews, another trailer maybe.

I don't think that that picture of Harry and Ron alone is the Silver Doe scene. I agree with decarus, because in the Silver Doe scene harry has a grey sweater with a high collar. In that picture of him and Ron he isn't wearing that sweater.

Aren't there supposed to be chases after both the Xeno scene and the Voldemort taboo "oops"?

Dream_silently said that Snape gives a speech before Rickman's interview. And he said that Rickman will shoot the scene not that he has already shot it.

This is what I'm talking about:

Posted by dream silently on December 13th:

Yes Alan Rickman has started shooting bits of his Hogwarts scenes.

Has he mentioned the scene since and clarified? I may have missed it.

Unless he shot stuff with Voldemort at Hogwarts (which I suppose is possible) or scenes when he was alone (also possible) then dream silently is mistaken (unless I'm not aware of more of his posts). On December 7th Alan Rickman stated that he had only shot scenes with Ralph Fiennes "a couple of weeks ago" which was around when he was stated to be on set during Thanksgiving week. He hadn't shot scenes with anyone else at that point. And he was in New York from the beginning of December to at least the first week of January. He was sighted several times, complete with pictures, and his assistant sent out letters to fans that stated he would be in New York until January and would be returning in the New Year to film DH.

Interestingly that video that I posted here of the Dec 7th interview was posted in the harrypotterforum thread on Dec. 11th. Dream silently posted on the 13th that AR had filmed bits of his Hogwarts scenes.

Anyway, it put a little bit of doubt in my mind. At the very least he hadn't shot the scenes that many people may be assuming he shot already (speech, second Trio stuff, battle) based on what dream said because he was likely not on set. He wasn't even in the country.

Another thing that made me doubt a bit is that he has given details on several occasions about Snape's memories and then he goes and says that he doesn't know much about them. Kind of conflicting info.

Anyway, just trying to clarify my earlier posts.

A lot of the stuff he says sounds really, really cool, so I hope he isn't making it up, but I'm just still slightly skeptical.

Some updates from Tom Felton today on Twitter:

TomFelton first thing i'm going to do when i get home is put the fire on....make pancakes...and read a very long script (that i should know by now!)
22 minutes ago from web

TomFelton on the way home....i feel mentally moody after doing an hour long photoshoot looking malfoy like!!
24 minutes ago from web

Some updates from Tom Felton today on Twitter:
:D I wish he would give us more details though :(

I just thought I'd comment on how I have that exact same gray high-collared sweater as Harry in that shot :rockon: It was a Christmas present.

Well maybe Rickman shot scenes with Fiennes at the 'boathouse'?Or the scene where Voldemort takes Dumbledore's wand?
Both scenes happen at Hogwarts and they may even add more.
I wouldn't be that suspicious. Why don't we ask him the question and check what he answers? It will definitely be very suspicious if he answers the speech was shot during the Thanksgiving holidays. :/

I think i dislike the idea of the death eaters/snatchers attacking right after the silver doe scene. It is such a great moment in the book with Ron and Hermione. I am almost worried that there will be too much battle and not enough character development though one of the director or producer guys said something about the films being character driven, so i won't give up hope.
I am totally with you here. I too dislike the idea of "destroying" a wonderful character moment by adding action. The scene has enough action, not to mention mystery, already. It is supposed to be about Ron defeating his fears and insecurities and it's a wonderful friendship moment. I want to see the hug between Ron and Harry. But then, the WB has, IMO, never cared much about characterization, character development, the dynamics between characters, motives or subtleties. Hence, I'm astonished where their notion comes from the movies were character driven. :hmm: But maybe they'll surprise us. :)


Dream_silently said:

"A boathouse? Where did you find/learnt hat?
The only thing I can tell you is that it's not in the Shrieking Shack and it's a very interesting place where the death happens"

Sorry I don't remember this very clearly but..he said something like that...
So he didn't say anything about the death scene not taking place in a boathouse...
Actually I thought that if it wasn't there he would have told us right away...it seemed like he hinted the scene does take place in a boathouse...Yes, that's the comment I was thinking about. I took that to mean though that Snape's death does not occur in the boat house. But you're right, dream_silently does not outright deny it. On the other hand, if the location of Snape's death is supposed to be a surprise, the boathouse wouldn't fit that description, IMO. It has no significance whatsoever, not for Snape individually nor for HP as a whole. It has never featured in the books or the movies. So where is the surprise? What's so special about it?

The interview was on December 7th in NYC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU98Xh5gJk4) and I was there. ;) :wow: You were there? Like in "in the same room with Alan Rickman"? You lucky one. Did you get an autograph?

decarus, I don't think the pic of Ron you posted is during the Silver Doe. At least not during the locket destruction, IMO. It looks more like a close up of a running Ron. Likely running from DEs or Snatchers.

Aren't there supposed to be chases after both the Xeno scene and the Voldemort taboo "oops"?

I agree. I doubt there is a chase after the doe scene. I think the chases will be:

-The escape from the wedding
-Breaking out of the MoM
-The escape from Godric's Hollow
-The escape from Xeno's
-The chase after saying Voldemort
-The escape from the Malfoy's

I don't think I am missing any but I could be wrong here...A chase after the doe scene is not needed.

-JR

Well maybe Rickman shot scenes with Fiennes at the 'boathouse'?Or the scene where Voldemort takes Dumbledore's wand?
Both scenes happen at Hogwarts and they may even add more.
I wouldn't be that suspicious. Why don't we ask him the question and check what he answers? It will definitely be very suspicious if he answers the speech was shot during the Thanksgiving holidays. :/

Yes, I agree those are possibilities. As I said, I am a little skeptical, not outright saying he's a fake. While I'm careful about unconditionally believing everything he says, I'm also not totally trying to say the guy is a fake, especially as I remember how badly people reacted to the HBP guy 'scoop'.



Yes, that's the comment I was thinking about. I took that to mean though that Snape's death does not occur in the boat house. But you're right, dream_silently does not outright deny it. On the other hand, if the location of Snape's death is supposed to be a surprise, the boathouse wouldn't fit that description, IMO. It has no significance whatsoever, not for Snape individually nor for HP as a whole. It has never featured in the books or the movies. So where is the surprise? What's so special about it?

I agree. If the boathouse rumor is true, then for it to have any sort of surprise value they would have to come up with something new for the movie. The easiest thing would be to set one of the Severus and Lily memories there.

:wow: You were there? Like in "in the same room with Alan Rickman"? You lucky one. Did you get an autograph?

I didn't then, but I have one from another time. I'm glad he seems to like NY. ;)

decarus, I don't think the pic of Ron you posted is during the Silver Doe. At least not during the locket destruction, IMO. It looks more like a close up of a running Ron. Likely running from DEs or Snatchers.

Yeah, I agree. Harry is dressed differently and it looks like it may be a warmer weather scene.

decarus, I don't think the pic of Ron you posted is during the Silver Doe. At least not during the locket destruction, IMO. It looks more like a close up of a running Ron. Likely running from DEs or Snatchers.

It is complete speculation on my part. There are no other photos of Ron wearing what he is wearing in that shot though. It could be from another scene, but it is not from the snatcher chase scene or the other chase scene.

If they show Ron after he leaves when he meets the snatchers for the first time, it could be from that. On the other hand, i do think the lighting looks similar to the shots of Harry walking from the sneak peek, but it is really just speculation. I may be wrong and am fine with that.

I agree. I doubt there is a chase after the doe scene. I think the chases will be:

-The escape from the wedding
-Breaking out of the MoM
-The escape from Godric's Hollow
-The escape from Xeno's
-The chase after saying Voldemort
-The escape from the Malfoy's

I don't think I am missing any but I could be wrong here...A chase after the doe scene is not needed.

-JRI wouldn't call all of these "chasing" scenes per se, but that's just semantics. If we're talking about action sequences, we would have to include the Seven Potters. The escape from the Malfoys can still take place in DH2, since we're still not sure where the split will be.

I am wondering about saying Voldemort's name. Is it confirmed or rumoured to be in?

This is what I'm talking about:

Posted by dream silently on December 13th:

Yes Alan Rickman has started shooting bits of his Hogwarts scenes.

Has he mentioned the scene since and clarified? I may have missed it.

Unless he shot stuff with Voldemort at Hogwarts (which I suppose is possible) or scenes when he was alone (also possible) then dream silently is mistaken (unless I'm not aware of more of his posts). On December 7th Alan Rickman stated that he had only shot scenes with Ralph Fiennes "a couple of weeks ago" which was around when he was stated to be on set during Thanksgiving week. He hadn't shot scenes with anyone else at that point. And he was in New York from the beginning of December to at least the first week of January. He was sighted several times, complete with pictures, and his assistant sent out letters to fans that stated he would be in New York until January and would be returning in the New Year to film DH.

Interestingly that video that I posted here of the Dec 7th interview was posted in the harrypotterforum thread on Dec. 11th. Dream silently posted on the 13th that AR had filmed bits of his Hogwarts scenes.

Anyway, it put a little bit of doubt in my mind. At the very least he hadn't shot the scenes that many people may be assuming he shot already (speech, second Trio stuff, battle) based on what dream said because he was likely not on set. He wasn't even in the country.

Another thing that made me doubt a bit is that he has given details on several occasions about Snape's memories and then he goes and says that he doesn't know much about them. Kind of conflicting info.

Anyway, just trying to clarify my earlier posts.

A lot of the stuff he says sounds really, really cool, so I hope he isn't making it up, but I'm just still slightly skeptical.

Quick-k-k question! (Sorry this has nothing to do with DH; well, it does, in a way). Where do you get all this info. on Alan? I'd really like to see him in more interviews/get more basic info. about him, but I can't find it anywhere. :sad: XoX

Quick-k-k question! (Sorry this has nothing to do with DH; well, it does, in a way). Where do you get all this info. on Alan? I'd really like to see him in more interviews/get more basic info. about him, but I can't find it anywhere. :sad: XoX

This is where the Rickman info is coming from, at least this interview:

The interview was on December 7th in NYC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU98Xh5gJk4) and I was there. ;)

-JR

Alexandre Desplat will be composing DH pt 1. What do you guys think about this?

source: SnitchSeeker

Alexandre Desplat will be composing DH pt 1. What do you guys think about this?

source: SnitchSeeker

I won't give my full opinion until I've heard music he does for the Harry Potter movie. However, I will say that I listened to the song he did for New Moon, and it was excellent, quite dramatic. Given the storyline for Part One of Deathly Hallows, I say that he could do quite well. I can just imagine his music for the Silver Doe scene. If he does it right, it will be unforgettable.

However, I do want to see John Williams back for Part 2. Nobody besides him could make the Hogwarts Battle scene music more epic.

I won't give my full opinion until I've heard music he does for the Harry Potter movie. However, I will say that I listened to the song he did for New Moon, and it was excellent, quite dramatic. Given the storyline for Part One of Deathly Hallows, I say that he could do quite well. I can just imagine his music for the Silver Doe scene. If he does it right, it will be unforgettable.

However, I do want to see John Williams back for Part 2. Nobody besides him could make the Hogwarts Battle scene music more epic.
Hans Zimmer could, in my opinion, but that is for the DH Composer Thread.

I really think that they are overdoing all these chases. I liked the ones in the book a lot, and I am afraid this could be overkill. But I could be wrong.

Alexandre Desplat will be composing DH pt 1. What do you guys think about this?

source: SnitchSeeker

Yeah I saw this on Mugglenet as well. I know nothing about Desplat and I have not seen any of Desplat's recent films like The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Julie & Julia, The Golden Compass, and The Twilight Saga: New Moon, but I have faith that, if true, they would not hire him unless they were sure he would do a great job.

-JR

So DH1 and DH2 will have different composers? I am not sure how I feel about that. Although I'm sure the WB will try to give both movies a feel of a complete stand-alone movie, they are still two parts of one. They are the adaptation of one book. Thus it's a bit different than with the other movies, IMO. DH1 and DH2 should feel more "connected", if you know what I mean. That, in my opinion, would mean, same cinematographer and same composer. Just as they have the same director and scriptwriter for both movies too.

I think that whoever the composers are they should try to make use of the themes from previous films. There were some nice bits of music that were composed for HBP for example that I think would be nice to hear again in DH at the appropriate times.

I don't know if I'm thrilled about the new composer rumor. I actually commented that I wasn't that impressed with the score for New Moon. I think I liked Benjamin Button's though... We'll see.

So DH1 and DH2 will have different composers? I am not sure how I feel about that. Although I'm sure the WB will try to give both movies a feel of a complete stand-alone movie, they are still two parts of one. They are the adaptation of one book. Thus it's a bit different than with the other movies, IMO. DH1 and DH2 should feel more "connected", if you know what I mean. That, in my opinion, would mean, same cinematographer and same composer. Just as they have the same director and scriptwriter for both movies too.

I know exactly what you mean. I would even extend it to HBP. I think the last three movies should feel very similar and a continuation of the final decent to the conclusion. I am not sure if different composers have been confirmed for each film as Alexandre Desplat has not been officially confirmed yet either I don't think.

-JR

Alexandre Desplat will be composing DH pt 1. What do you guys think about this?

source: SnitchSeeker


It should sound gorgeous then.

I am not familiar with who has been in charge of the music composition over the course fo the movies, which is stupid I admit. However I thought that HBP music was by far the best I have heard thus far in the course of the series. It really seemed to have a great sound in regards to the overall depressing emotion of the film itself.

I look forward to seeing and hearing how the composer/s will fit the music into the feel of the story. I have always appreciated how music can amplify the intesity or emotion in a film.

I can only hope that their 'padding' is inventive, coherent and dynamic. :whistle:

I agree... although given their past record, I have a feeling they'll just drag out the source material in excrutiating detail :no:

If this is true, then I am thrilled. Desplat is a terrific composer, and I loved his score for New Moon, particularly the piece known as Volturi Waltz. He's also done the music for The Curious Case of Benjamin Button, Girl With a Pearl Earring, and The Queen.

Alexandre Desplat will be composing DH pt 1. What do you guys think about this?

source: SnitchSeeker

Ugh, that's dissapointing...what happened to John Williams returning?! :( So this is the guy who did New Moon? Wow, what a joke... :lol: :rolleyes:

Hmm, is this a strike against dream? I recall him saying they were talking with 2 others but was quite certain Williams would be back.

So is this confirmed or just a rumor? I hope to God it's just a false rumor. :relax:

Ugh, that's dissapointing...what happened to John Williams returning?! :( So this is the guy who did New Moon? Wow, what a joke... :rolleyes:

Hmm, is this a strike against dream_silently? I recall him saying they were talking with 2 others but was quite certain Williams was the man

Please don't judge an entire career on one movie, since John Williams has had some terrible projects himself. Desplat has also scored The Curious Case of Benjamin Button and The Queen, for which he received numerous nominations and an Oscar nod.

Desplat has also written music for the theatre, including pieces performed at the Comédie Française. He has conducted performances of his music played by the London Symphony Orchestra, the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra, and the Munich Symphony Orchestra. In addition to his composing and performing, Desplat has also given Master Classes at La Sorbonne in Paris and at London's Royal College of Music.

Prior to these breakout works, Alexandre Desplat contributed scores for The Luzhin Defence, Girl with a Pearl Earring, Syriana, Birth, Hostage, Casanova, The Nest and The Painted Veil, for which he won the Golden Globe Award for Best Original Score, Los Angeles Film Critics Association Award for Best Music, and the 2006 World Soundtrack Award. He won the 2007 BMI Film Music Award, 2007 World Soundtrack Award, 2007 European Film Award, and received his first Academy Award nomination for Best Original Score for The Queen. He also won the Silver Berlin Bear at the Berlin Film Festival for Best Film Music in The Beat that My Heart Skipped. In 2008, Desplat received his second Oscar nomination for David Fincher's The Curious Case of Benjamin Button.

Yeah, so he's not simply the man who composed the score for New Moon.

Ugh, that's dissapointing...what happened to John Williams returning?! :( So this is the guy who did New Moon? Wow, what a joke... :lol: :rolleyes:

Hmm, is this a strike against dream? I recall him saying they were talking with 2 others but was quite certain Williams would be back.

So is this confirmed or just a rumor? I hope to God it's just a false rumor. :relax:
Yes, I agree with SwedishSkinJer. I just finished listening to the New Moon soundtrack and it was beautiful. I am by no means a Twilight lover, but that does not affect music. Music is music. Try listening to it, and I am sure you will be amazed.

Even so, he's nothing in comparison to John Williams. :grumble:

I didn't think too highly of New Moon as a movie, but I do agree that Desplat's score was top-notch and suitably dramatic, quiet, and thoughtful when necessary. I actually think that "Volturi Waltz" could fit scenes like Malfoy Manor.

Yes, I agree with SwedishSkinJer. I just finished listening to the New Moon soundtrack and it was beautiful. I am by no means a Twilight lover, but that does not affect music. Music is music. Try listening to it, and I am sure you will be amazed.

I've seen the movie (and thereby heard the score) and I wasn't impressed.

Even so, he's nothing in comparison to John Williams. :grumble:
Seriously, comparing anything to John Williams is like comparing the Harry Potter books to the movies. The movies will win out every time. But, that does not stop the movie from being good. So, even though Desplat is no Williams, that does not mean he can't still be good.

Even so, he's nothing in comparison to John Williams. :grumble:

In my opinion, John Williams is a tad bit overrated. I'd like to hear someone new.

I'm inclined to agree with what a friend said about Williams: Thank goodness. At least one part of DH won’t be crashing timpani-trombones-strings with a Hollywoodesque wooden ear and sensibility. Hooper was subtle, nuanced, sophisticated, and put his heart and soul into HP, Williams doesn’t share any of those traits. Desplat at his best is capable of almost matching Hooper, witness Girl With A Pearl Earring etc, whose cinematographer was also Eduardo Serra.

Hedwig’s Theme is the only soulful bit of music Wiliams contributed to the whole series, the rest was just LOUD, obvious, cliched and predictable, though sometimes complex, which just made it worse. Just how many hundreds of strings, timpani, and horns does any scene need anyway? And why do we need to be deafened by the score? Hooper’s leaving was a real blow. Williams return for DH2 will make it totally predictable. I can already hear the cacophony of the battle scenes penned by Williams, boring-follow-the-signs Speilberg-Hollywoodese. HBP is easily the best film of the series. Only Kloves’s script, which was better than all previous ones, was no match for the genius of Delbonnel, Yates, Hooper, Day, and Craig.

Seriously, comparing anything to John Williams is like comparing the Harry Potter books to the movies. The movies will win out every time. But, that does not stop the movie from being good. So, even though Desplat is no Williams, that does not mean he can't still be good.

Yeah, I suppose that is true.

So is Williams at least returning for DH2? That one really needs the sort of grand epic score that far as I know, nobody else can provide...

I guess Williams isn't essential for Part 1, but it would have been nice :sigh:

Yeah, I suppose that is true.

So is Williams at least returning for DH2? That one really needs the sort of grand epic score that far as I know only he can provide...

I guess he's not essential for Part 1, but it would have been nice :sigh:
No idea yet. That is still a year and a half away. It probably will be a while until they decide. They might want to see how Desplat does until they decide. If he goes over well, they might want him. If not, who knows? I really want Zimmer, if Williams does not come back. I am an Elfman fan too, but he would not be able to do a Potter film successfully IMO.
Oh and by the way, clicky clicky (http://mugglenet.com/app/news/show/3191).

Here's one of my favorite Desplat compositions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiq_gxTWC2Q

His style suits Harry Potter, in my opinion. What do you all think of this piece?

Yeah, I suppose that is true.

So is Williams at least returning for DH2? That one really needs the sort of grand epic score that far as I know, nobody else can provide...

I guess Williams isn't essential for Part 1, but it would have been nice :sigh:


I was hoping it was going to be john williams as well. That would have made the series full circle. Hedwig's theme is such a hallmark of the franchise. I know he would have been great. I was a fan of new moon, but the score really didn't stick out for me at all. I don't even remember any of it. I do recall benjamin button though and it was pretty good. Still, I would have definitely preferred john williams.

1. We have a thread if you'd like to discuss the composer(s) for the Deathly Hallows movies here (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=123297).
2. I don't want to see any more putting down of one composer or another. Like it, hate it, I really don't care - but you will not make rude comments about these people. 8. Threads that are created with the sole purpose of providing negative commentary towards an actual person/persons are not permitted. If you wish to critique a public figure, make sure your comments are constructive and reasonable. These principles also apply to signatures, avatars, and the like. Additionally, threads that de-generate into nothing more than hate-filled ranting will also be closed and members will be warned in either case.
NOTE: To ensure that your thread is not closed, when starting a thread criticizing the comments or actions of a real life individual, you should approach the issue in a non-judgemental way, i.e. present your case factually and draw a non-hateful conclusion from that.
Reference: Zero Tolerance Policy (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=22998)This rule applies to posts as well.

Please move discussion of the composer to its proper place and heed the rules.

So does anyone think that any characters will be incorporated into the BoH that were not in the book? Like Xeno or Madam Maxime? I know Xeno was captured, but maybe they will have Luna rescue him or something. We have confirmation that Maxime will be at the wedding, so maybe they will have Hagrid contact her to come to the battle. It would be soooo awesome to see the Beauxbatons carriage fly into Hogwarts with Maxime and some students entering the fray.

So does anyone think that any characters will be incorporated into the BoH that were not in the book? Like Xeno or Madam Maxime? I know Xeno was captured, but maybe they will have Luna rescue him or something. We have confirmation that Maxime will be at the wedding, so maybe they will have Hagrid contact her to come to the battle. It would be soooo awesome to see the Beauxbatons carriage fly into Hogwarts with Maxime and some students entering the fray.

I guess anything is possible but somehow I doubt it. I'm sure the fandom would not object to them being there, but I would like to think they will stay close to how the book had it play out.

PS - I like your updated sig :p

-JR

For some weird reason I would always relate a lot the music of New Moon to Deathly Hallows because it is so emotional and sad that it actually fits. SO words cannot describe how HAPPY I am to hear that Alexandre Desplat is going to make the score for DH part 1. His music in New Moon and The Curious of Benjamin Button was AMAZING. Even though I love John Williams, especially in POA, I think he is overrated. I already had heard his music in blockbuster movies such as Star Wars, Indiana Jones, etc So I think we need something refreshing for DH.

This needs to be in the Composer thread.

Oh ok. I have not read mexicant's post when I posted this..

For some weird reason I would always relate a lot the music of New Moon to Deathly Hallows because it is so emotional and sad that it actually fits. SO words cannot describe how HAPPY I am to hear that Alexandre Desplat is going to make the score for DH part 1. His music in New Moon and The Curious of Benjamin Button was AMAZING. Even though I love John Williams, especially in POA, I think he is overrated. I already had heard his music in blockbuster movies such as Star Wars, Indiana Jones, etc So I think we need something refreshing for DH.
This needs to be in the Composer thread.

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Has it been confirmed?
I don't know anything about it.
Desplat was one of the 3 other composers into consideration, except John Williams. That's a surprise..everyone though Williams would come back. Maybe for Part 2?
I really don't know. I guess you've got to wait for an official confirmation from Warner Bros.
I will try to learn more on Friday.


Answering few questions..
I highly doubt Neville's grandma is included in Part 2.
The Ministry infiltration is an action sequence not similar to the 'Phoenix' one. They're still filming it but judginf from the artwork the sets are different, they have a less 'fantasy' 'feel' like the Hall of Prophecies. They're much darker, more serious and much grittier. I think you'll love the Muggleborn Registration Commission set. It's quite huge, very black in colours with an uneven and rocky ground/floor. A combination of the Atrium and Veil Chamber sets but with much less colour. The scenes that take place have a very sinister 'feel'. The Dementors chase, the escape of the Muggleborns and the skirmish in the Atrium, I think, will be interesting to watch.

I don't know much stuff about the Prince's tale. I know, though,that most memories have to do with Dumbledore and Voldemort, while the Lily ones are very few. I also know that each memory will most probably have a different colour scheme. They have started working on that stuff and I think I won't be in Leavesden during the entire shooting of these scenes.



The King Cross scene is beautiful. The artwork is amazing. I really hope it will be shot that exact way. I don't want to reveal much but Dumbledore is supposed to be dressed in a very long white cloak. The place is covered with very soft layers of mist and white light. There are trains in the distance and the scene will, most possibly, end when Dumbledore sets off to catch the train telling Harry that it's his choice to come with him or return back to life. I hope they won't change anything. This is supposed to be one of the very last scenes to shoot and I won't be able to be on set those days.



About Desplat: Yes I've hears some scores of him (Girl with a Pearl Earring, the Queen and The Curious Case of Benjamin Button) and I think he's extremely talented. He definitely fits for Part 1. Half of the film is action-packed and the other half of it is extremely emotional. Part 2, with the exception of few Shell Cottage moments and the emotional part of the Battle of Hogwarts, feel more operatic and grand. He may do both. I haven't heard anything. He was just one of the composers taken into consideration. Anyway, I'll try to learn more on Friday when I return to Leavesden.

So does anyone think that any characters will be incorporated into the BoH that were not in the book? Like Xeno or Madam Maxime? I know Xeno was captured, but maybe they will have Luna rescue him or something. We have confirmation that Maxime will be at the wedding, so maybe they will have Hagrid contact her to come to the battle. It would be soooo awesome to see the Beauxbatons carriage fly into Hogwarts with Maxime and some students entering the fray.
I don't think they'll incorporate characters in the Battle that weren't in the book. Not saying Madame Maxime showing up with the Beauxbaton carriage wouldn't look cool, but I think there are already enough characters involved in the Battle. I wouldn't want them to cram even more characters into it just for the sake of having them there. By the looks of it there will even be characters and creatures missing that were actually part of the Battle in the book, therefore it would make no sense to go ahead and include characters that weren't, IMO. They should rather concentrate on the ones that are there and properly show what happens to them instead of maybe rushing it.

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Great info. Again I hope it is true. I'm a little disappointed that there are few memories with Lily, but from what we have seen in the past movies, this shouldn't surprise me. They will focus on Voldemort and Dumbledore due to the fact that all the movies have been focused on this.

-JR

Frances De La Tour is a famous French actress (who plays Madame Maxime).
If she's cast to be at Fleur and Bill's Wedding I doubt they'll use her just for that scene.
I too have a feeling that we may see the Beauxbatons and maybe the Durmstrangs (Stanislav Ianevski is cast. Maybe few action sequences on their ship at the lake?) and, personally, I would loooove it.
Actually, now that I'm thinking about it...it's highly possible!
This will bring even more variety to the battle sequences at Hogwarts I guess. And more characters we've seen and care about.

Frances De La Tour is a famous French actress (who plays Madame Maxime).

ACTUALLY I think you will find that Frances de la Tour is actually a famous BRITISH actress.

Does anyone know if McGonagall, Slughorn and Shacklebolt will dues with Voldemort. I sincerely hope so. Dream_silently has answered all but this question from me. Can anyone else help me out.

ACTUALLY I think you will find that Frances de la Tour is actually a famous BRITISH actress.

Does anyone know if McGonagall, Slughorn and Shacklebolt will dues with Voldemort. I sincerely hope so. Dream_silently has answered all but this question from me. Can anyone else help me out.
No official word yet, but I am hoping so. It will be amazing. I am mostly hoping for Bealltrix vs. Hermione/Luna/Ginny though. Now THAT will be epic.

I agree. I hope that they don't just show the adults fighting and not show the kids. That is one thing i hated about the short battle in OotP and the lack of battle in HBP. I want more of the kids fighting. Though i would love to see McGonagall fight not at the expense of seeing Hermione, Ron, Luna, Neville, and Ginny fight.

With the rumoured 30++ minutes of pure battle scenes it doesn't seem likely that they will cut the kids fighting nor anything else.

Im hopeful that they'll include almost or if not all the duels of the main adult and kid characters.

Does anyone know if the music in the Deathly Hallows teaser was original? Now that the composer has been announced for Part I, I was wondering if he had the chance to compose a piece specifically for the teaser.

Does anyone know if the music in the Deathly Hallows teaser was original? Now that the composer has been announced for Part I, I was wondering if he had the chance to compose a piece specifically for the teaser.

Most probably not. Trailers don't use to have original music. And it is way to early for a composer to start working on a film which is still shooting.

I agree. I hope that they don't just show the adults fighting and not show the kids. That is one thing i hated about the short battle in OotP and the lack of battle in HBP. I want more of the kids fighting. Though i would love to see McGonagall fight not at the expense of seeing Hermione, Ron, Luna, Neville, and Ginny fight.

I agree the DA needs to get its due! I think, as far as the kids are concerned, I am looking forward to Ginny and Bellatrix fighting and Molly stepping in...I have a feeling this will be one of my favorite parts of the film!

-JR

According to the All-Inclusive DH List on this forum, Frances de la Tour is reprising her role as Madame Maxime for Deathly Hallows Part I (presumably, she will appear during the wedding scene). Does anyone have the source confirming de la Tour's return?

As for the kids fighting, I'm really looking forward to seeing Neville fight. If they do it right, I think Neville killing Nagini will be one of the best moments :D

As for the kids fighting, I'm really looking forward to seeing Neville fight. If they do it right, I think Neville killing Nagini will be one of the best moments :D
Ah yes! That will be very amazing. I would like to see some Neville vs. Voldemort instead of Harry using Protego. Neville could totally take on Voldemort. Jo should have done so in the book.

According to the All-Inclusive DH List on this forum, Frances de la Tour is reprising her role as Madame Maxime for Deathly Hallows Part I (presumably, she will appear during the wedding scene). Does anyone have the source confirming de la Tour's return?

Two fans who were on the Burrow set for the Weasley wedding reported seeing her in their set report. WB asked them to remove the set report from their LiveJournal though. As of now there has been no official confirmation.

Here is the link (http://hp4u.co.uk/Exclusive%20HP4U%20reports/WeddingReport.htm) of one of the set reports where they talk about the wedding scene. The set report isn't very concise writing more like a story then a set report, but it has proved accurate. In my experience HP4U has always been correct in their information. [source] (http://hp4u.co.uk/Exclusive%20HP4U%20reports/WeddingReport.htm)

PS. Here are two links (http://www.gryffindorgazette.com/2009/08/14/report-from-the-set-of-harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows/) that sort of have a list (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/8/12/fan-report-from-harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-new-attack-scene-added-for-movie-more) of what was written in the set report that was taken down. I am not sure if they mentioned a lot of detail about the wedding or not.

These are both old, so don't get excited.

Here is the link (http://hp4u.co.uk/Exclusive%20HP4U%20reports/WeddingReport.htm) of one of the set reports where they talk about the wedding scene. The set report isn't very concise writing more like a story then a set report, but it has proved accurate. In my experience HP4U has always been correct in their information. [source] (http://hp4u.co.uk/Exclusive%20HP4U%20reports/WeddingReport.htm)

PS. Here are two links (http://www.gryffindorgazette.com/2009/08/14/report-from-the-set-of-harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows/) that sort of have a list (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/8/12/fan-report-from-harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-new-attack-scene-added-for-movie-more) of what was written in the set report that was taken down. I am not sure if they mentioned a lot of detail about the wedding or not.

These are both old, so don't get excited.

Their set report seems to indicate that the madness with the Death Eaters starts shortly after Harry enters the tent. I wonder if that means they cut Harry's conversation with Elphias Doge, who is being portrayed by David Ryall in Deathly Hallows Part I?

Their set report seems to indicate that the madness with the Death Eaters starts shortly after Harry enters the tent. I wonder if that means they cut Harry's conversation with Elphias Doge, who is being portrayed by David Ryall in Deathly Hallows Part I?
Well I am presuming they will work it all out somehow :P. Shorty could be 5 minutes, which is long enough for the conversation.

Their set report seems to indicate that the madness with the Death Eaters starts shortly after Harry enters the tent. I wonder if that means they cut Harry's conversation with Elphias Doge, who is being portrayed by David Ryall in Deathly Hallows Part I?

That is sort of my problem with this set report. I think that this person only saw three scenes being filmed. They saw the wedding party greeting guests at the entrance to the tent, the scene where Hermione dances with someone as Ron watches her, and the scene where Harry enters the tent and the patronus comes and says the ministry has fallen.

The person who wrote the report sort of wrote it like they were at the wedding and not like they were watching scenes being filmed. We can't really infer that this is everything that happens at the wedding. It is possible that Harry was in the tent and then entered a second time. We can't really know.

We do have photos though of Fleur's dress though and of the wedding couple and Molly standing by the entrance to the tent.

There has been confirmation (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/7/14/heyman-imelda-staunton-to-return-as-umbridge-for-deathly-hallows) from Heyman, i think, that Doge (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/7/19/deathly-hallows-updates-stan-as-krum-returns-doge-is-cast-and-more) is in the film and will give some of the back story of Dumbledore. It is possible that it may just take place at the burrow and not during the wedding. We don't actually know for certain.

That's what I was thinking. We know that Auntie Muriel has been cast, so it's possible that they moved the scene with Doge to the Burrow. I also recall hearing that Krum's actor is returning, and he only appears with Harry during the wedding scene. I don't see why the report wouldn't mention that, so they most likely didn't see the entire scene.

Right. We also know they only film a few scenes a day. I am sure they filmed the wedding scenes for a week or so at least, so the person who wrote they set report could only have seen them film what they saw that day. I still think that it is a good source just not written very concisely.

It is possible that Doge will be at the wedding though or he may simply be at the burrow. We just can't know for certain. We do know he passes on information about Dumbledore's past. We know Auntie Muriel is at the wedding. I think she was in the bit of dancing on the sneak peek though i am not positive if that is her. Because Auntie Muriel is at the wedding i still think more likely then not the conversation with Doge will still take place during the wedding, but we just can't know for certain.

It was confirmed that Krum will return. He may be the one who dances with Hermione, but that is just a guess.

I certainly hope the Murial/Doge argument is in the film. The 'Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore' subplot is difficult enough to adapt to cinema. The Doge/Murial conversation is perhaps the best way to introduce the Dumbledore plot since the tension of an argument makes good cinema.

In one of dream_silently's recent posts he mentions Kings Cross:

The King Cross scene is beautiful. The artwork is amazing. I really hope it will be shot that exact way. I don't want to reveal much but Dumbledore is supposed to be dressed in a very long white cloak. The place is covered with very soft layers of mist and white light. There are trains in the distance and the scene will, most possibly, end when Dumbledore sets off to catch the train telling Harry that it's his choice to come with him or return back to life. I hope they won't change anything. This is supposed to be one of the very last scenes to shoot and I won't be able to be on set those days.

I think that sounds truly amazing. While reading the book I always imagined it to be misty/foggy and white. I think the trains in the distance will look great aswell.

And as someone has mentioned, they should end the scene with Dumbledore asking him if he wants to come to the afterlife. And then cut off.
This way there will be some suspense for the movie-goers to see if Harry will come back and "save the day" so to speak.

In one of dream_silently's recent posts he mentions Kings Cross:

I think that sounds truly amazing. While reading the book I always imagined it to be misty/foggy and white. I think the trains in the distance will look great aswell.

And as someone has mentioned, they should end the scene with Dumbledore asking him if he wants to come to the afterlife. And then cut off.
This way there will be some suspense for the movie-goers to see if Harry will come back and "save the day" so to speak.

Yeah, and depending how they do it this suspense could be held all the way up until Harry throws off the cloak and reveals himself. Myself and meesha have both suggested this for a long time. It would just require like the camera shots not being from Harry's POV or whatever. Stick with the crowd and let everyone believe he might really be dead. :cool: This is just one example of how they can enhance the book

^ And why would the audience finally realize for the first time that Harry's alive when he throws off the cloak? Aren't you forgetting about Narcissa?

^ And why would the audience finally realize for the first time that Harry's alive when he throws off the cloak? Aren't you forgetting about Narcissa?

They can cut the part where Harry answers :)
Also, I rather see Lucius check if Harry is alive or not...

They can cut the part where Harry answers :)
Also, I rather see Lucius check if Harry is alive or not...

:no: We haven't seen enough Narcissa. I love Jason Isaacs, and I hope we see a lot more of him, as well. But it really should be Narcissa that checks. . .considering she's the one who does in the book. It just proves she really loves her son more than her own life. And, er, Harry kind of has to answer, or Narcissa would probably go bonkers and make Harry be tortured. . .Just my opinion. :whistle: XoX

We haven't seen enough Narcissa. I love Jason Isaacs, and I hope we see a lot more of him, as well. But it really should be Narcissa that checks. . .considering she's the one who does in the book. It just proves she really loves her son more than her own life. And, er, Harry kind of has to answer, or Narcissa would probably go bonkers and make Harry be tortured. . .Just my opinion. XoX

I agree, it should be Narcissa.
Maybe when they're all leaving, she turns back to Harry's "dead" body and looks at it. Then it cuts off.
And later we found out what she asked and stuff, maybe even in a quick flashback?

Or maybe during the battle, she could quickly pull him to the side and ask. This way the suspense isn't ruined.

The King Cross scene sounds wonderful. Actually, when I read this chapter I imagined that two trains entered the station and Harry joined the one that took him back to life :) I hope it plays out like we don't know what he choose to do. Has Dream Silently said anything about that?

I think it Narcissa needs to check on Harry because it shows the Malfoy's redemption.
Also, who else thinks that they are going CRAZY with flashbacks? They were too afraid to do them in HBP, not it seems like half of DH is going to be filled with them :lol:.

They can cut the part where Harry answers :)
Also, I rather see Lucius check if Harry is alive or not...

I disagree. Having a mother check on Harry is poignant. It was Draco's mom that begged Severus to help Draco. Bringing this point home by having her ask if Draco is alive will be striking. The Mother/son connection here is important. IMO.

I agree, it should be Narcissa.
Maybe when they're all leaving, she turns back to Harry's "dead" body and looks at it. Then it cuts off.
And later we found out what she asked and stuff, maybe even in a quick flashback?

Or maybe during the battle, she could quickly pull him to the side and ask. This way the suspense isn't ruined.

I think a flashback would be a bit overcomplicated.

I like the idea of seeing Narcissa leaning over Harry - just as she did in the books. The moment where She hears harry answer, then LIES to Lord Voldemort for Harry's sake is AMAZING. We should not lose that. It was an incredible act of defiance and it clearly marked the beginning of the END for Voldemort.

I think it Narcissa needs to check on Harry because it shows the Malfoy's redemption.
Also, who else thinks that they are going CRAZY with flashbacks? They were too afraid to do them in HBP, not it seems like half of DH is going to be filled with them :lol:.

HU? how so? Have we really heard of any confirmation that there are any flashbacks in DH?

If Narcissa doesn't check up on Harry and then lie to Voldemort, I will be FURIOUS TO NO END.

I want to see more of Narcissa!

They can cut the part where Harry answers :)
Also, I rather see Lucius check if Harry is alive or not...

I really hope they don't cut Harry answering...this is such an awesome and poignant scene...we finally get a chance to see that Narcissa really loves Draco and wold defy the Dark Lord to protect him. I think I HAS to be included. Forget fooling the audience for as long as possible and do it how the story says!

-JR

I think they should add some more suspense to make it work cinematically. I do admit that Narcissa's care for her son was touching in the book, but I honestly doubt the films will emphasize on this subplot as it has very little relevance to the main story compared to all the other subplots. And there are plenty of them. The film makers definitely need to tighten the story and choose what to emphasize on.

HU? how so? Have we really heard of any confirmation that there are any flashbacks in DH?
The casting of "young Dumbledore", dream_silently has said a few things (presuming he is true), etc.

Narcissa's scene is included for sure - she wouldn't have raved about DH2 if she wasn't.

Hey people, I have been trying to stay updated ( I allow myself to check the list once in a while ,but I am very busy this year so I am making myself stay away most of the time. However, despite how much I try not to care much I end up having questions about the film and wishing I would allow myself to get hooked again. Could someone help me here and answer this questions in my profile? Pretty please.(hopes someone is nice enough to )

1. Is there any news about the split? last time I heard they had say when the snatchers caught the trio, but later on Heyman said they had found a better place but did not elaborate, any news on that?

2.Harry is desguised several times as cousin Barty, when he is deformed by Hermione when the snatchers get him, for the magic is might part, when they reach Godric´s Hollow. I am aware they are making the Magic is might part as it is in the book, with Harry polijuiced, but in the other scenes will they be making Harry be polijuiced also or are they changing that?

3.How much of DD story will be included, and how will they do it?
I sort of read that they might use aunt Muriel and Elphias Dodge to do it, but there is a lot of backstory to DD as there was to Voldemort, we only saw selected bits of Voldemort´s past in HBP, I suppose the same will apply for DD, any clue about this?

4.How will the tale of the three brothers be presented? will it be shown or just narrated?

I am sorry to ask all this, I really have been trying to stay as updated as possible, but the thread moves very fast, even if you guys end up discussing hair. I try to read the list as I said, but I am never able to finish it throughly , I always end up caught up in real life so I suppose I have missed parts.
I appreciate it someone could be nice enough to clarify my doubts.Please do so in my profile .

1. Is there any news about the split? last time I heard they had say when the snatchers caught the trio, but later on Heyman said they had found a better place but did not elaborate, any news on that?

In this quote is what we know about the split from Yates:
"We're here in the forest, we've just finished the scene where Harry, Hermione and Ron are captured by the Snatchers after being chased through the woods. The Snatchers are brutal and scary but they aren't the most intelligent of creatures.They're trying to figure out exactly who it is they've caught."

"Yes, I think we have," he said. "Things can change when you edit, of course, but the idea now is that it will be not long after the sequence that we are filming here today. That's what we're experimenting with. We've had three or four different ideas about where to cut off the seventh film. Traditionally, the movies have ended with a death or a bereavement, some sort of passage or arrival. This time we think we will end with more a cliffhanger. Again, though, that's the thought as of this moment."

It was reported by a fan that the guy who plays Goyle said that the film will be split right after the trio are captured and before they are taken to malfoy manor.

Heyman said this about the split:
Well that's interesting. We've played around with a couple of places, and ultimately settled on a place that we think is very exciting, and I think quite bold, in that it's not necessarily where one might expect. But I don't want to reveal where it is. You want to give a sense of completion, on the one hand, but a sense that there's another piece, more to come. So yeah we tried one and then Steve [Kloves] came up with the idea to try it another way, and when we tried that, it felt just right.

I think that the split will be where most of these people seem to be inferring which is after the capture and before malfoy manor. Yates did say that things could change during editing, but that seems to be where they plan to split it.

2.Harry is disguised several times: as cousin Barty, when he is deformed by Hermione when the snatchers get him, for the magic is might part, when they reach Godric´s Hollow. I am aware they are making the Magic is might part as it is in the book, with Harry polijuiced, but in the other scenes will they be making Harry be polijuiced also or are they changing that?

Harry will not be disguised as Barty during the wedding. On the sneak peek they show Daniel Radcliffe as Harry at the wedding and we have photos of when they apparate to London after the wedding attack and it is Daniel Radcliffe and not Barty. They apparate into the middle of the street and are almost hit by a bus.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/wedding/dhteaser_makeupharry.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/london%20after%20wedding/apparation2.jpg
There has been reports that Harry will be stung when they are captured by the snatchers. One fan who was at Swinley forest when they were filming the snatcher chase scene said that Daniel Radcliffe looked like he had been run over by a bus.

Also when a reporter was on set the days they were filming the malfoy manor scenes they let her take photos with the other actors, but the photo of her with Daniel Radcliffe he has a book covering his face. She said that they did this because they did not want to show his makeup presumably from when he was stung.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/malfoy%20manor/filmingmalfoymanor1.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/malfoy%20manor/filmingmalfoymanor3.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/malfoy%20manor/filmingmalfoymanor2.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/malfoy%20manor/dh_bts_setvisits_14.jpg
As you know, the trio will be polyjuiced for the scenes at the Ministry of Magic.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/outside%20the%20ministry/triotransformed.jpg
Harry will not be polyjuiced during the scenes at Godric's hollow. He mentioned in an interview fighting off a snake with a chair which will be during the scene at godric's hollow in bathilda's house. Also during the sneak peek there was a bit where Emma and Daniel as Hermione and Harry entered a graveyard, the graveyard at godric's hollow.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/graveyard/11.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/graveyard/dhteaser_sadharry.jpg
3.How much of DD story will be included, and how will they do it?
I sort of read that they might use aunt Muriel and Elphias Dodge to do it, but there is a lot of backstory to DD as there was to Voldemort, we only saw selected bits of Voldemort´s past in HBP, I suppose the same will apply for DD, any clue about this?

Heyman said only this on Dumbledore's past:
Heyman discussing Dumbledore's past: We have Hermione reading parts of the book and we also have a character at the wedding who talks about Dumbledore's past. There's Elphias Doge, who also has a more favorable opinion of Dumbledore. Hermione finds Rita Skeeter's book and she reads the book to them.
It seems that his past will be explained in some part through Doge and through Rita's book.

We do also know that Young Dumbledore (Toby Regbo) and Gellert Grindelwald (Jamie Campbell Bower) suggesting that there will be some sort of flashback involving the two of them.

4.How will the tale of the three brothers be presented? will it be shown or just narrated?
We actually don't know the answer to this question. All we know is that Scrimgeour does deliver the things in Dumbledore's will to the trio. We don't know if the story of the three brothers will be read or not. I think it makes sense that it will be in some part in the film, but i have no proof of that.

Sorry for the long post.

Thanks for asking those questions Montse. I too have only been skimming through all these latest updates for lack of time.
Thanks for all the answers and pics too Decarus. The pics make me want the movie to be here even sooner!

No problem. All the photos really make me want to see the film too. A lot. I don't mind talking about things in repetition. It makes me be able to put things together easier. Though i totally want some new photos or footage. Something, anything, but we may have a few months before we get anything new.

We can always talk about hair. I think Harry's hair is better for this film, but not great. I like how crazy they all look in the photos when they apparate to the beach. Intense.

Jason Isaacs with sunglasses and the hair of Lucius Malfoy in that fan set photo: Malfoy family beach scene! :lol:

Jason Isaacs with sunglasses and the hair of Lucius Malfoy in that fan set photo: Malfoy family beach scene! :lol:

Where is this set photo?

No problem. All the photos really make me want to see the film too. A lot. I don't mind talking about things in repetition. It makes me be able to put things together easier. Though i totally want some new photos or footage. Something, anything, but we may have a few months before we get anything new.

We can always talk about hair. I think Harry's hair is better for this film, but not great. I like how crazy they all look in the photos when they apparate to the beach. Intense.

Repetition is good for me. I don't respond much (as you can tell) just lurk and take it all in. :tu:

:lol: Hair! I do think Harry's hair is better. At least better than in OOTP.

Good intensity. Hope they can bring the emotions needed for DH2. I really want to feel a bit of what the book brought.

Where is this set photo?


In Decarus's previous post.

Where is this set photo?

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/malfoy%20manor/filmingmalfoymanor2.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/malfoy%20manor/filmingmalfoymanor2.jpg

Jason Isaacs with sunglasses and the hair of Lucius Malfoy in that fan set photo: Malfoy family beach scene! :lol:

:rotfl: It reminds me of the "By the Sea" sequence in Sweeney Todd.

That's Jason Isaacs? I thought that was the Xenophilious actor. :lol:

Here's a new interview with Yates and Emma Watson. They talk about DH and
the split but don't really reveal anything new.
http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/emma-watson-crew-talk-series-changes-split-deathly-hallows-films-70765/

Anyone else having trouble getting to snitchseeker?

A video of a forest being prepared for filming. Didn't see the link posted.

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I'm wondering if this is where Dean and co. are at?

What could those wigwams in the forest possibly be for, especially since they don't look too comfortable for wizards that want to remain as hidden as humanly possible? We also haven't had any announcements concerning the casting of Tonks' parents, so the scene with Ted and the group of fugitives could very well be axed.

What could those wigwams in the forest possibly be for, especially since they don't look too comfortable for wizards that want to remain as hidden as humanly possible? We also haven't had any announcements concerning the casting of Tonks' parents, so the scene with Ted and the group of fugitives could very well be axed.

Well they would blend in with the rest of the forest surroundings, wouldn't they? That makes sense with them wanting to be hidden.

Well they would blend in with the rest of the forest surroundings, wouldn't they? That makes sense with them wanting to be hidden.

I suppose, considering that they most likely don't have a proper tent to enchant.

What could those wigwams in the forest possibly be for, especially since they don't look too comfortable for wizards that want to remain as hidden as humanly possible? We also haven't had any announcements concerning the casting of Tonks' parents, so the scene with Ted and the group of fugitives could very well be axed.

I am not convinced that these structures have anything to do with the film. These look like something that is just in the forest for whatever reason. If this is a place people camp or hunt, odd structures like this happen. If they were for the film, i don't think they would have left them. I may be wrong. I don't know.

I agree with you that most likely the conversation that the trio overhear with Ted, Dean, and Griphook is not going to be in the film. I think that they are going to use the radio more and that they might possibly just hear this information over the radio. There is still the possibility that they will show the secondary trio (Ginny, Neville, and Luna) trying to get the sword though.

We still don't really know what they are going to show of Hogwarts in the first film.

Thanks for the link.

I am not convinced that these structures have anything to do with the film. These look like something that is just in the forest for whatever reason. If this is a place people camp or hunt, odd structures like this happen. If they were for the film, i don't think they would have left them. I may be wrong. I don't know.

I agree with you that most likely the conversation that the trio overhear with Ted, Dean, and Griphook is not going to be in the film. I think that they are going to use the radio more and that they might possibly just hear this information over the radio. There is still the possibility that they will show the secondary trio (Ginny, Neville, and Luna) trying to get the sword though.

We still don't really know what they are going to show of Hogwarts in the first film.

Thanks for the link.

Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I don't think that the goblin with Dean was Griphook.

Well there were two goblins. Griphook who was with Dean when they get captured and another goblin, Gornuk, who is killed when Ted Tonks is killed if i'm not mistaken.

I am not convinced that these structures have anything to do with the film. These look like something that is just in the forest for whatever reason. If this is a place people camp or hunt, odd structures like this happen. If they were for the film, i don't think they would have left them. I may be wrong. I don't know.

You may be right, but there are shots in the beginning of the video of signs pointing to the location and they are labeled WB. This isn't the first time this source has posted pictures or videos from filming locations so I tend to think they are on the money.

In this link (http://hp4unews.blogspot.com/2010/01/potter-team-back-in-town-calling-all.html) it says they are going to be filming there the 18 January through the 12 March and they mention night shoots. I am just not convinced that those structures are part of the filming. I agree that the videos from this source are usually good, but i am not so sure in this case.

In this link (http://hp4unews.blogspot.com/2010/01/potter-team-back-in-town-calling-all.html) it says they are going to be filming there the 18 January through the 12 March and they mention night shoots. I am just not convinced that those structures are part of the filming. I agree that the videos from this source are usually good, but i am not so sure in this case.

Maybe we'll get lucky enough to see pictures of them filming at the new location and we'll be able to figure out what scenes they are filming.

I hope so as well. Last time they were filming in Swinley Forest some fans went there and we were able to get some information such as scene numbers and a description. We can only hope some fans will do the same thing again. It might be more difficult though if they are filming at night.

I thought they had finished all the on location shooting for some reason and am surprised that they are there again. I wonder why Neville would be filming on location in the forest? I don't know.

Mugglenet has a link to Snitch which has a link to an article on Harry Potter's page (http://www.harrypotterspage.com/2010/01/23/yates-dh-part-i-is-dynamic-adrenalised-and-visceral/) detailing an interview people involved with DH gave to the magazine Total Film.

In the interview, Screenwriter Steven Kloves gave a bit of a hint about the split, saying it was the most sound creative decision on where the split occurs. He also stated that the split will give a proper send-off to certain characters, “It should allow us to stretch a bit with the characters and give them the proper send-off.”

I am seriously hoping that this "send off" is Dobby's funeral and therefore, the split will occur at Shell Cottage.

-JR

I thought they had finished all the on location shooting for some reason and am surprised that they are there again. I wonder why Neville would be filming on location in the forest? I don't know.

Maybe they're using the Swinley Forest set to shoot some Forbidden Forest scenes. I can see the battle of Hogwarts taking over the entire school grounds, including the outer edge of the Forbidden Forest. That's just me though.

The send off comment kinda makes me think that the split is at a point of resolution and not a typical suspenseful cliffhanger

The send off comment kinda makes me think that the split is at a point of resolution and not a typical suspenseful cliffhanger
Yeah, it kind of makes it sound like it will end after Dobby's death IMO.

I really hope they do split it at Dobby's death, with the final scene in the film being Voldemort taking the Elder Wand. That way they can get end at a point of resolution, but also get a bit of a cliffhanger in there as well.

Hmm, that is a promising comment. Whoever else could he be referring to besides Dobby? :whistle:

I really hope they do split it at Dobby's death, with the final scene in the film being Voldemort taking the Elder Wand. That way they can get end at a point of resolution, but also get a bit of a cliffhanger in there as well.

Yeah, I agree.

The send off comment kinda makes me think that the split is at a point of resolution and not a typical suspenseful cliffhangerOh absolutely. And I think I recall that Heyman said sometime last year already that the first movie would end at a point of resolution. While the final decision of course could still be open and they could decide to end on a cliffhanger after all, I personally would prefer the resolution. And I like the idea of it ending with Voldemort taking the Elder wand and Dobby's death. Dobby's death was such a pivotal point in the story really, because it brought about Harry's decision to go after the Horcruxes first.

I don't really understand Kloves' comment though. :lol: That could mean anything, really, couldn't it?

ETA: boushh, I too had trouble accessing snitchseeker.

And I think the goblin with Dean and Ted Tonks was Griphook. But we don't know if they will include Dean in the whole thing (Malfoy Manor, Shell Cottage), right?

Oh absolutely. And I think I recall that Heyman said sometime last year already that the first movie would end at a point of resolution. While the final decision of course could still be open and they could decide to end on a cliffhanger after all, I personally would prefer the resolution. And I like the idea of it ending with Voldemort taking the Elder wand and Dobby's death. Dobby's death was such a pivotal point in the story really, because it brought about Harry's decision to go after the Horcruxes first.

I don't really understand Kloves' comment though. :lol: That could mean anything, really, couldn't it?

No, I don't think so...what else could it mean? What other character won't return after DH1 that needs a "proper sendoff"? :hmm:

I'm just a tad confused though considering Yates all but confirmed the split was before Malfoy Manor and previous comments seemed to indicate they'd decided on more of a cliffhanger ending...

Then again, dream did say they were still tossing around the idea of splitting it after Dobby's death and I've said all along that I thought sooner or later they'd come to their senses and realize this is the best spot. For it to come now has me puzzled though cause I figured if they had one in mind but ending up changing this would occur after filming is all finished and you know, they piece the 2 parts together. :whistle:

However, filming doesn't wrap for a few more months at least, right?

[QUOTE=lcbaseball22;5487628]No, I don't think so...what else could it mean? What other character won't return after DH1 that needs a "proper sendoff"? :hmm:

Peter Pettigrew.

By "proper sendoff", he means ALL the characters. I don't think there's any chance Dobby's Death will be in Deathly Hallows 1.

By "proper sendoff", he means ALL the characters. I don't think there's any chance Dobby's Death will be in Deathly Hallows 1.

Which is kind of strange, because it was one of the first things we saw behind-the-scenes pictures of if I recall correctly. I know they are shooting everything at once, but that is kind of strange in my opinion.

No, I don't think so...what else could it mean? What other character won't return after DH1 that needs a "proper sendoff"? :hmm:Does "proper sendoff" mean "last farewell" as in the character dies? I took it more figuratively rather than literal. More in regards to the fact that the movie ended and not a character's life.

I agree with ronjalina. The statement is so cryptic as to be practically useless. (Doubtless, as he intended). He could also mean leaving time in DH2 to give characters a proper sendoff. No matter where the split falls, the majority of the book's deaths of characters of some importance occurs in a part of the book that is after any reasonable split: the deaths of Snape, Remus and Tonks, Fred, Bella, Voldemort, Harry (;-) ), and also the dealing with the death of Albus, will all be in the second half. Earlier we have only Moody, Hedwig, Peter, and Dobby. (The first two would have to die in Part 1, the latter 2, could depend on how they handle it).

Hmm, that is a promising comment. Whoever else could he be referring to besides Dobby? :whistle:

Yeah I agree. They could also be talking about ollivandr since dh1 is prob the last time we see him

Well, if "proper sendoff" doesn't necessarily mean death, and you take into consideration the fact that I'm still really hoping the split's at the point where Ron comes back, I hope that it's in reference to Ron's character finally maturing? :)

If the split is not after Dobby's death/Harry's resolution/Voldemort getting the Elder Wand there will be no difference between the first movie and a chapter from a TV series.

I still can't imagine what DH1 will be about,except for a bunch of chases. (I invite anyone to try to explain that to me)

If the split is not after Dobby's death/Harry's resolution/Voldemort getting the Elder Wand there will be no difference between the first movie and a chapter from a TV series.

I still can't imagine what DH1 will be about,except for a bunch of chases. (I invite anyone to try to explain that to me)

If the split is after Dobby's burial, DH1 will be about a young man learning to put duty before desire, rejecting the temptation to go after the Hallows and deciding to continue the quest he started. It's sort-of like an intense and deeper version of the theme in PS/SS.

I think I am going to have to go against the majority here and say that I still think Kloves was refering to Dobby's death as a "proper send-off" and not as the charactors as a whole. It just seems to fit so well that I have a hard time believing anything else.

-JR

Well, if "proper sendoff" doesn't necessarily mean death, and you take into consideration the fact that I'm still really hoping the split's at the point where Ron comes back, I hope that it's in reference to Ron's character finally maturing? :)

Ehhh I still think it's too early.

If the split is after Dobby's burial, DH1 will be about a young man learning to put duty before desire, rejecting the temptation to go after the Hallows and deciding to continue the quest he started. It's sort-of like an intense and deeper version of the theme in PS/SS.

But if the split is before that?

And btw, don't you think it is a great mistake to introduce the Hallows just before the end of Part 1 (no matter where the split is)? I mean, Xenophilius will be part of the last act from the first movie. How the rest of the movie is supposed to sustain itself is really beyond me.

And believe me, I hope I'm very wrong.

If the split is after Dobby's burial, DH1 will be about ...

I thought it was definite that the split would be before that, even before Malfoy Manor.

And if this is so, I agree with oierem that Part 1 will just be a bunch of stuff, without a coherent point or a resolution.

I thought it was definite that the split would be before that, even before Malfoy Manor.

And if this is so, I agree with oierem that Part 1 will just be a bunch of stuff, without a coherent point or a resolution.

It seems that it is not definite yet. And let's pray they change their mind. :grumble:

I thought it was definite that the split would be before that, even before Malfoy Manor.

And if this is so, I agree with oierem that Part 1 will just be a bunch of stuff, without a coherent point or a resolution.

I don't really think it will be just events with no point...this is the beginning of their journey and thus we will have lost of hiding and traveling. Unless I'm mistaken, the split is just that, a split not a climax or a some sort of mild conclusion. I think of it more as an intermission during the continuing narrative of the story. So having an intermission at Shell Cottage, at a point of relative calm where everyone is catching their breath before the final decent, just seems natural to me.

-JR

I thought I'd just say that Deathly Hallows Part 1 is 297 days away!

We passed the 300 day mark!

I thought it was definite that the split would be before that, even before Malfoy Manor.

And if this is so, I agree with oierem that Part 1 will just be a bunch of stuff, without a coherent point or a resolution.

Well, the filmmakers said it's still up in the air. They said it's in that general area. It's definitely going to either be right before Malfoy Manor or right after.

I agree with you and oierem that if the split is anywhere but Dobby's burial, the two films won't work as well. I think Dobby's burial is the ONLY proper place to split the story and the only way the split can work.

There's still hope, especially with this recent comment by Heyman that part end will end with a closure.

And 300 more days!??! :wow: It's coming so fast! I can't believe Jan is already at an end...

Well, the filmmakers said it's still up in the air. They said it's in that general area. It's definitely going to either be right before Malfoy Manor or right after.

I agree with you and oierem that if the split is anywhere but Dobby's burial, the two films won't work as well. I think Dobby's burial is the ONLY proper place to split the story and the only way the split can work.

There's still hope, especially with this recent comment by Heyman that part end will end with a closure.

And 300 more days!??! :wow: It's coming so fast! I can't believe Jan is already at an end...

Well, I think if you split it when Ron comes back you would get a sense of resolution (Ron coming back, the locket being destroyed) but I think that's too early.

Well, I think if you split it when Ron comes back you would get a sense of resolution (Ron coming back, the locket being destroyed) but I think that's too early.

But then it becomes: Ron Weasley and the Evil Locket. The film is called Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. Ending on HARRY making that life-changing character decision to turn down his desire to seek out the Hallows to continue his duty of finding the horcruxes will fit the story better.

And yes, a split at the Silver Doe leaves too much for part two. I think one of the best parts of the split is that it will allow for the climax of the entire series to have enough time to breath. We don't want a rushed climax ala OOTP.

Maybe the character is Xeno Lovegood? If they're doing the whole wedding at the beginning, maybe he'll crop up there with the symbol - I mean, why else would they have recast Krum if not to bother Ron and then have an argument that calls attention to the symbol? - and then be done by the end of the first film. And then we know what the Deathly Hallows are. And then the title makes sense! And we have a refresher first thing on DH2. I'm just sayin'. Ya'll can shout me down now. ;)

But if the split is before that?

And btw, don't you think it is a great mistake to introduce the Hallows just before the end of Part 1 (no matter where the split is)? I mean, Xenophilius will be part of the last act from the first movie. How the rest of the movie is supposed to sustain itself is really beyond me.

And believe me, I hope I'm very wrong.

I see (if the split is just before Malfoy Manor) that the resolution in Act III is destroying the locket and discovering what the Deathly Hallows are, and that Voldemort is after the Elder Wand. I think (IMO) that this is a fulfilling ending to the first half of a two part film, as well as wanting the audience to return half a year later to discover what happens next :)

I see (if the split is just before Malfoy Manor) that the resolution in Act III is destroying the locket and discovering what the Deathly Hallows are, and that Voldemort is after the Elder Wand. I think (IMO) that this is a fulfilling ending to the first half of a two part film, as well as wanting the audience to return half a year later to discover what happens next :)

So the first two acts are just about trying to get one single object and destroy it? (and just wonder about what does that symbol mean) Do we really need a whole movie for that? Seems like an episode from a TV show to me . :p

So the first two acts are just about trying to get one single object and destroy it? (and just wonder about what does that symbol mean) Do we really need a whole movie for that? Seems like an episode from a TV show to me . :p
Unfortunately blame JKR for deciding not to tail end the story and instead dump everything onto us in the final act. No we don't need an entire film for it, we needed only one single DH film.

So the first two acts are just about trying to get one single object and destroy it? (and just wonder about what does that symbol mean) Do we really need a whole movie for that? Seems like an episode from a TV show to me . :p

Well, this is kinda what it is! A two episode TV programme (or, to make it even clearer, a 2 part mini-series). How many part ones of a part two identity has a completely self-contained story? The first part is used mostly for introduction to the setting of both parts, and there will be a conclusion to the first part by finding the answer to something and then discovering even more problems (which are resolved in the next part)

But then it becomes: Ron Weasley and the Evil Locket. The film is called Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. Ending on HARRY making that life-changing character decision to turn down his desire to seek out the Hallows to continue his duty of finding the horcruxes will fit the story better.

And yes, a split at the Silver Doe leaves too much for part two. I think one of the best parts of the split is that it will allow for the climax of the entire series to have enough time to breath. We don't want a rushed climax ala OOTP.I agree with all of this. A split after Malfoy Manor would pose a resolution, it would give DH1 more of a complete feeling. And at the same time the second part wouldn't be too crammed.

Unfortunately blame JKR for deciding not to tail end the story and instead dump everything onto us in the final act. No we don't need an entire film for it, we needed only one single DH film.
Blame JKR? Why? She was writing a book. One single book. She never thought about how it could potentially be made into a movie and that wasn't her job anyway. She didn't know they would make two movies from the book, so why blame her? She was writing the story of DH towards it's climax in the end. Everything is resolved in the final couple of chapters. The movie makers' pov or what problems her book could cause for them when they decided to make two movies isn't her problem. :)

Well, this is kinda what it is! A two episode TV programme (or, to make it even clearer, a 2 part mini-series). How many part ones of a part two identity has a completely self-contained story? The first part is used mostly for introduction to the setting of both parts, and there will be a conclusion to the first part by finding the answer to something and then discovering even more problems (which are resolved in the next part)

The difference, of course, is that i don't have to pay to see a TV show. :no:

There are many "part ones" that have a self-contained story, or at least work on their own: The Empire Strikes Back being one example (or Pirates 2, or Star Wars episodes I or II..., The Lord of the Rings movies 1 or 2...). You see, when you split a story in two movies, you get TWO movies, and therefore, they HAVE to work on their own. You can't just say "well, this is part 1, so you just have to pay, watch it and then come back 8 months later to really be able to enjoy it".

Splitting in Shell Cottage at least gives the oportunity to close some of the plots, kill off a few characters (so you don't have to re-introduce them) and allow the main characters a moment to learn something, to realize what they've got to do (the endings of Empire or The Two Towers, for example).

(The negative point is that HBP basically ended the same way).

Finally, remember that (specially for the general audience) there has been 6 HP movies before this one, so this seemingly endless story might become somewhat... boring.

Unfortunately blame JKR for deciding not to tail end the story and instead dump everything onto us in the final act. No we don't need an entire film for it, we needed only one single DH film.

I think that the book works rather well: the first two acts are grim, dark, hopeless, almost pointless, desperate; then the final act is full of pure magic, excitement, adventure and drama. So I have nothing to blame about the book. :cool:

Splitting in Shell Cottage at least gives the oportunity to close some of the plots, kill off a few characters (so you don't have to re-introduce them) and allow the main characters a moment to learn something, to realize what they've got to do (the endings of Empire or The Two Towers, for example).

(The negative point is that HBP basically ended the same way).

I concur exactly! Shell Cottage is the natural split in the story. It is a lull in the action and the characters learn their "mission" for the final act ala Empire Strikes Back or Twin Towers, or most middle books/movies in a 3 part series...and yes I see HBP, DH1, and DH2 as one single movie split into 3 parts.

-JR

According to olliver phelps' Twitter he's filming today.

According to olliver phelps' Twitter he's filming today.

Correct!

From yesterday: On way to the hotel for filming tomorrow. Why do people hog the middle lane on the motorway doing 60? I'm not driving by the way.

and today: Filming today. It's going ok, watched 500 days of summer in my down time. Good and funny film. Gonna try and play James at tennis later

Not much detail, but there it is.

From James' Twitter page:Just at the hotel for work 2moro. I've not stayed here before,but it's very nice. I hope everyone is having/had a good start of the week =)

-JR

Well, this is kinda what it is! A two episode TV programme (or, to make it even clearer, a 2 part mini-series).

Except that actually these are two major blockbuster movies that WB are expecting to rake in millions ... :whistle: :)

How many part ones of a part two identity has a completely self-contained story? The first part is used mostly for introduction to the setting of both parts, and there will be a conclusion to the first part by finding the answer to something and then discovering even more problems (which are resolved in the next part)

From an artistic POV, a film should be a self-contained story, IMO. And while The Empire Strikes Back and LotR are obviously continued stories, and you need to watch the whole series in order to benefit, they all work well as films and artistic entities in their own right. I mean, for starters each one has a definable beginning, middle, and end. Not wanting to sound too obvious here. :D :)

Finally, remember that (specially for the general audience) there has been 6 HP movies before this one, so this seemingly endless story might become somewhat... boring.

My big fear about DH Part One, right there. :whistle:

I think that the book works rather well: the first two acts are grim, dark, hopeless, almost pointless, desperate; then the final act is full of pure magic, excitement, adventure and drama. So I have nothing to blame about the book. :cool:

Oh, as pure narrative the book works pretty well. :) In terms of actually moving the plot along ... the first half of DH might have problems in that regard in being translated to the screen, in that it might all seem rather 'samey'. Purely my own conjecture, of course.

The second half is also pretty dark. (Snape ... :upset: And everybody else dying. :yuhup: )

It was brought up earlier in the thread that Part 1 might end up being about finding and destroying one object, and maybe that might not be enough to sustain a whole movie. There are movies that are seemingly about getting one thing. Think along the lines of the Indiana Jones movies. At its most basic DH Part 1 could be about getting and destroying one Horcrux and an introduction to the Hallows, but it's also about the emotional journey that the characters are going on.

I think that the book works rather well: the first two acts are grim, dark, hopeless, almost pointless, desperate; then the final act is full of pure magic, excitement, adventure and drama. So I have nothing to blame about the book. :cool:

I am going to have to disagree. The first part of the book is the excitement and adventure and the second half is the low point. Hopefully they will be able to trim out some of the stuff that is the low point in the second half and add to the stuff where there needed to be more.

I am not in anyway worried that the first film is going to be boring.

http://thefilmstage.com/2010/01/26/harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-part-1-2-to-be-in-3d/


YES.
DHPt.1 AND DHPt.2 to be in 3-D!

http://thefilmstage.com/2010/01/26/harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-part-1-2-to-be-in-3d/


YES.
DHPt.1 AND DHPt.2 to be in 3-D!

Wow! Very cool thanks for posting. I've never seen a movie in 3d before. Does this mean the whole movie is going to be on 3d or just parts? I think I'll see it in a regular theater first and then maybe see it in 3d

http://thefilmstage.com/2010/01/26/harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-part-1-2-to-be-in-3d/


YES.
DHPt.1 AND DHPt.2 to be in 3-D!

I don't see this as a good thing really. Sure, it will peak people's interest, but after seeing Avatar in 3D and normal, I prefer normal. 3D, while it was cool to see stuff flying at you, the glasses were obtrusive (I don't wear glasses) and I never forgot they were there...mostly becuase they were digging into my head.

Not saying I won't see this in 3D, but my first viewing will probably be in normal. Now if they had full view, wrap-around 3D goggles where I could not see over or below my goggles and could not see the edges and it was like totally immersive, I might be more excited.

-JR

Wow! Very cool thanks for posting. I've never seen a movie in 3d before. Does this mean the whole movie is going to be on 3d or just parts? I think I'll see it in a regular theater first and then maybe see it in 3d
About the news: YES

To AccioHP: You haven't? I have seen several. Up, Ice Age 3, Christmas Carol, and Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs to name a few. The 3D was not cheesy at all. If you want cheesy 3D watch Spy Kids 3. The 3D in Up for example, really added to the experience. it mad it feel more realistic and like you were actually a part of it, even though it was animated. I think it will do the same for DH. And yes it would most likely be for the whole movie. The glasses do not get annoying at all (well I have worn glasses/contacts my whole life). Try seeing a 3D movie before DH though so you can make your own opinion.

I am not really a big fan of 3D. I hate it when they do weird things where they have scenes that exist or have object fly at the screen just to show of the 3D. I just don't want them to be doing that. I haven't seen avatar in 3D, but have heard it wasn't like that and i hope DH won't be like that either.

I probably won't see it in 3D either way, but we will see.

I am not really a big fan of 3D. I hate it when they do weird things where they have scenes that exist or have object fly at the screen just to show of the 3D.

It's like that only in the Luna Parks.

I am not really a big fan of 3D. I hate it when they do weird things where they have scenes that exist or have object fly at the screen just to show of the 3D. I just don't want them to be doing that. I haven't seen avatar in 3D, but have heard it wasn't like that and i hope DH won't be like that either.

I probably won't see it in 3D either way, but we will see.

I know, I saw a movie last week and one of the previews was for a 3D movie about piranha attacking spring break. It's the blue and red 3D fad all over again! RUN FOR ZE HILLS!!!

-JR

Harry Potter + 3D = Spectacular :D

I haven't watched 3D films before, but it sounds mind-blowing and will perhaps make the final battle even more epic :cool: Do you think they are shooting it with 3D cameras (or the technology required) or do they add this effect in post-production?

I just saw the 3-D "news" on Leaky, but haven't read the story; is it confirmed that both parts will be in 3-D? I'm not surprised in the slightest, it seems like every tentpole picture is being released in 3-D, whether they were planned that way or converted (examples for this year: Clash of the Titans, Shrek Forever After, Alice in Wonderland, Toy Story 3...). It's the "big thing" right now, so I'm sure this is at least partly gimmickry. The 20-minute climax of Order and the 10-minute opening to Half-Blood Prince were shown in IMAX 3-D, though, so it's not hard to imagine an entire Potter film in the format.

I just saw the 3-D "news" on Leaky, but haven't read the story; is it confirmed that both parts will be in 3-D? I'm not surprised in the slightest, it seems like every tentpole picture is being released in 3-D, whether they were planned that way or converted (examples for this year: Clash of the Titans, Shrek Forever After, Alice in Wonderland, Toy Story 3...). It's the "big thing" right now, so I'm sure this is at least partly gimmickry. The 20-minute climax of Order and the 10-minute opening to Half-Blood Prince were shown in IMAX 3-D, though, so it's not hard to imagine an entire Potter film in the format.

Do we know for sure that it's the ENTIRE film though? :hmm: What I read didn't indicate this...it was quite vague actually. This could just be another "select sequences" thing. Personally I've never seen a film in 3D (other than the Honey I Shrunk the Kids 3D experience at Disneyland...which made me nausious) but for HBP the idea sounded totally lame and not worth the extra money. There was a lot more exciting sequences they could have chosen, such as Quidditch, THE CAVE, etc. I probably won't see it in 3D anyways, but I hope they make better decisions for DH if it is just being implemented sparingly. I'm surprised to discover that it's so relatively cheap to convert...

Do we know for sure that it's the ENTIRE film though? :hmm: What I read didn't indicate this...it was quite vague actually. This could just be another "select sequences" thing. Personally I've never seen a film in 3D (other than the Honey I Shrunk the Kids 3D experience at Disneyland...which made me nausious) but for HBP the idea sounded totally lame and not worth the extra money. There was a lot more exciting sequences they could have chosen, such as Quidditch, THE CAVE, etc. I probably won't see it in 3D anyways, but I hope they make better decisions for DH if it is just being implemented sparingly. I'm surprised to discover that it's so relatively cheap to convert...

I can't imagine that they will only do certain parts in 3D...I think it will be all or nothing. There will probably be some scenes that are better then others in 3D, but I think you will be expected to keep your glasses on the entire movie.

Also, I believe that the movie will be filmed like normal and will be made into 3D in post-production (which can be done as we will see in Clash of the Titans). This is good in my opinion becuase people like me can see DH in normal mode and not in 3D if they don't want to.

-JR

I can't imagine that they will only do certain parts in 3D...I think it will be all or nothing. There will probably be some scenes that are better then others in 3D, but I think you will be expected to keep your glasses on the entire movie.

Also, I believe that the movie will be filmed like normal and will be made into 3D in post-production (which can be done as we will see in Clash of the Titans). This is good in my opinion becuase people like me can see DH in normal mode and not in 3D if they don't want to.

-JR

Well, both OOTP and HP I saw in Imax 3D. In OOTP it was just the last 20minutes that were in 3D- the whole ministry of magic sequence. It was quite spectacular. For HBP the part that was in 3D was the first 20min when the bridge comes down. Honestly, it was not nearly as impressive as OOTP. Either way, I will probably make it a point to see DH in Imax 3D as well.

Well, both OOTP and HP I saw in Imax 3D. In OOTP it was just the last 20minutes that were in 3D- the whole ministry of magic sequence. It was quite spectacular. For HBP the part that was in 3D was the first 20min when the bridge comes down. Honestly, it was not nearly as impressive as OOTP. Either way, I will probably make it a point to see DH in Imax 3D as well.

True, but all this was pre-Avatar, a phrase I think we will be hearing a lot more in the future. In this post-Avatar time, I think people will be going for the full 3D experience.

-JR

I like my 3D in small doses. I don't think I'll be able to watch a full movie in 3D. It does irritate me after a while especially if it's during a talking scene and I just want to sit back and enjoy the scene. After a while, it's just too much. This was the case with HBP where they had scenes like Harry flirting with the waitress in 3D. :rolleyes: That was just silly.

If the entire movie is in 3D, I probably won't be going to see it in 3D. I really like the beautiful IMAX screen though so it's a shame, but a full length 3D movie doesn't appeal to me.

Yeah, no on the 3D for me. Its cool for a bit, but honestly its a task to pay attention the whole movie, so it actually takes away from the movie in some aspects. I saw Avatar in IMAX with 3D; while the effects were cool it was just too much for over 3 hours.

A full-length film in 3-D can work, and has, but it's best if the film is planned in three dimensions. Up and Avatar were conceived as 3-D productions (well, in the case of Up, it was decided shortly after production began), but in this case of deathly Hallows, they're converting it to 3-D, and I just don't see the reason beyond a gimmick/cash-grab. This isn't a story that needs the extra depth of image that 3-D presents. Deathly Hallows would work just fine in 2-D.

Recent posts about the horror of 3D have reminded me of a 3D mini golf course we went in Hawaii. They even had a sign that cautioned to remove the glasses if you started feeling dizzy and nausious. Hell, nobody in my family could even make it through a half hour game of putt putt wearing the glasses the whole time...we'd take 'em off whenever we weren't putting to give our eyes a break. As such, I can only imagine the awful experience watching a movie for 2 to 3 hrs with those glasses on would be :relax: Yeah no thanks on 3D for me either... :shrug: