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AnnKirk July 28th, 2009, 4:19 pm I agree. Although the letters are in caps, I have always imagined her muttering the line in rage when I read that scene. It would look kinda wierd if she actually screams the whole thing.
Agreed! Almost as if she's saying it to herself, willing herself to do something she's probably not done before. Remember, with unforgivable curses "you have to mean it."
AccioHP July 28th, 2009, 4:33 pm Oh yeah! I remember this too! Hmm, yeah no idea when or where this interview could be found :lol: I personally would like to see Dan and Emma's face during GH. I don't think polyjuiced muggles will cut it. It will be more emotional in my opinion for it to be Dan and Emma :tu:
I would like to see Dan and Emma's faces too. But I don't know how they are going to work this scene out, whether they use Polyjuice Potion or spells to alter their appearences, or the Invisibility Cloak. They do need to show that they are protecting themselves because afterall Harry is 'Undesirable Number One'. But also this is different from the book b/c it has to work cinematically so I'm not sure what they'll do.
As for the 'Not my daughter...' line by Molly Weasley-they HAVE to keep that in the movie. I don't think it is out of character for Mrs. Weasley at all. She is VERY protective of her family and a strong woman. And I think Julie Walters will deliver that line amazingly!:)
lcbaseball22 July 28th, 2009, 4:41 pm I would like to see Dan and Emma's faces too. But I don't know how they are going to work this scene out, whether they use Polyjuice Potion or spells to alter their appearences, or the Invisibility Cloak. They do need to show that they are protecting themselves because afterall Harry is 'Undesirable Number One'. But also this is different from the book b/c it has to work cinematically so I'm not sure what they'll do.
I'm thinking (and hoping) they'll just have them use the invisibility cloak...nothing else is needed. Besides, didn't they do such in the book?
I know they ued Polyjuice as well, but that's really quite unnecessary. I honestly don't care if they don't use anything! Insignificant detail :shrug:
As for the 'Not my daughter...' line by Molly Weasley-they HAVE to keep that in the movie. I don't think it is out of character for Mrs. Weasley at all. She is VERY protective of her family and a strong woman. And I think Julie Walters will deliver that line amazingly!:)
I agree! :agree: :tu: Oh boy, can you just imagine the fan backlash they'd get if this line was cut?! :evil: It wouldn't be pretty, that's for sure ;)
meesha1971 July 28th, 2009, 5:07 pm In the Ministry it lasted them the whole time they were there, and I think it was more than an hour.
There was no time frame given for how long they were at the Ministry apart from the polyjuice wearing off as they escaped. Since polyjuice only lasts for an hour, then they could only have been there for an hour.
I would like to see Dan and Emma's faces too. But I don't know how they are going to work this scene out, whether they use Polyjuice Potion or spells to alter their appearences, or the Invisibility Cloak. They do need to show that they are protecting themselves because afterall Harry is 'Undesirable Number One'. But also this is different from the book b/c it has to work cinematically so I'm not sure what they'll do.
Well, they could have Harry hidden with the Invisibility cloak while Hermione is disguised with polyjuice or spells. That would work pretty well in showing that they are thinking and being careful about exposing themselves in public - particularly with Harry being "Undesirable #1". However, after seeing HBP, I suspect they'll avoid using the Invisibility Cloak unless they half to - which is a shame because it's one of the Hallows so I think they should use that as they did in the book.
If they don't want to use the cloak or polyjuice, they can have Harry and Hermione disguise themselves with spells so that they are not recognizable. That would work as well. As long as they are not recognizable or hidden by the cloak, that scene will work for me.
As for the 'Not my daughter...' line by Molly Weasley-they HAVE to keep that in the movie. I don't think it is out of character for Mrs. Weasley at all. She is VERY protective of her family and a strong woman. And I think Julie Walters will deliver that line amazingly!:)
Absolutely. :agree:
RemusPotter July 28th, 2009, 6:40 pm [QUOTE]
Well, they could have Harry hidden with the Invisibility cloak while Hermione is disguised with polyjuice or spells. That would work pretty well in showing that they are thinking and being careful about exposing themselves in public - particularly with Harry being "Undesirable #1". However, after seeing HBP, I suspect they'll avoid using the Invisibility Cloak unless they half to - which is a shame because it's one of the Hallows so I think they should use that as they did in the book.
If they don't want to use the cloak or polyjuice, they can have Harry and Hermione disguise themselves with spells so that they are not recognizable. That would work as well. As long as they are not recognizable or hidden by the cloak, that scene will work for me.
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^ This.
decarus July 28th, 2009, 8:21 pm Well, the beauty of polyjuice is that it only lasts for an hour. By the time they get to Bathilda's house, they've been in Godric's Hollow for a while - searching through the graveyard to find the Potters' graves, walking through the village to find the cottage, etc... So it's feasible they could still show Harry and Hermione being smart and using polyjuice to disguise themselves and show it wearing off when they get inside Bathilda's house.
I was waiting for someone to say that the polyjuice could have worn off by the time they entered Bathilda's house. You are right that is possible. I just think it is unlikely they will have the trio poljuiced for more then one scene per film. We know that they are polyjuiced for the ministry scene in DH1 and then Hermione is for the bank heist in DH2 with Ron in disguise as well.
I just think they aren't going to have large portions of the films where the trio are different actors and the ministry scene and Godric's hollow are two of the longer scenes in the film. I really think it is unlikely and i may be wrong.
I don't think people will laugh - at least not in the sense of it being funny for Molly to be angry at Bellatrix for trying to kill her daughter and challenger her - but I agree that people will cheer. I think it would be like that final moment in The Karate Kid when Daniel goes into the position to use the Crane techinique. It's not a humorous moment at all, but the audience started cheering the moment he raised his arms into position.
This is what i meant by they might laugh and then cheer. A sort of cheering laugh, not a hey that is funny that she is attacking Bellatrix. I actually think having Mrs Weasley call her that was supposed to be a lighter moment in the midst of the battle, the fighting was not a lighter moment.
Panduhbear July 28th, 2009, 9:11 pm For the Godric's Hollow scene, I definitely want them to use Emma and Dan as opposed to random muggles. I know that is the way it is in the book, but the books and movies aren't exactly the same. I think the scene would be much more powerful that way.
I also think that Molly's line is totally in-character for her, and not just a little mutter either. I mean, Bellatrix was laughing about killing her children. That's enough to drive anyone to swear.
I think that they will really have a hard time keeping this movie PG-13, and that they are going to have to cut or change things. There are so many scenes with violence: the snake attack, Hermione's torture, the snake killing Snape, to name a few. Add the language and sexual tension, and it's just a lot of things that they have to monitor and make sure there are not too many things like this.
meesha1971 July 28th, 2009, 9:51 pm I was waiting for someone to say that the polyjuice could have worn off by the time they entered Bathilda's house. You are right that is possible. I just think it is unlikely they will have the trio poljuiced for more then one scene per film. We know that they are polyjuiced for the ministry scene in DH1 and then Hermione is for the bank heist in DH2 with Ron in disguise as well.
I just think they aren't going to have large portions of the films where the trio are different actors and the ministry scene and Godric's hollow are two of the longer scenes in the film. I really think it is unlikely and i may be wrong.
I'm not saying they definitely would use polyjuice - though, if they did, I think they might go for younger actors rather than a middle-aged couple. I was just pointing out that they could and still have it wear off when they get inside Bathilda's house. There are other ways they can disguise themselves so that they are not recognizable though - I would be fine with that as well. As long as they are shown to be smart and protecting themselves with disguises so they are not recognizable and/or hide Harry the Invisibility cloak, I'm fine with it.
This is what i meant by they might laugh and then cheer. A sort of cheering laugh, not a hey that is funny that she is attacking Bellatrix. I actually think having Mrs Weasley call her that was supposed to be a lighter moment in the midst of the battle, the fighting was not a lighter moment.
Agreed. :agree:
AccioHP July 29th, 2009, 12:05 am I think he showed up in the book for closure, but in the movies there's no mention of them staying in touch. I doubt he'll be back.
Why is 'The Forest Again' not on the list?! That is by far my most favorite scene in the book!
I voted 'Other' because there are just too many scenes I'm looking forward to.
Do you think Victor Krum will be back?
It's been confirmed that the actor who played him in GoF will return for DH1.
The wedding scene is actually being filmed now.
clockstopper July 30th, 2009, 12:35 am hey does anyone know how are they going to make the 7 potters scene i mean mundungus fletcher was never introduced so who do you think is going to be the seven potter? is it just going to be some random guy who gets killed along with moody or what
Panduhbear July 30th, 2009, 1:22 am I don't know what they'll do about Mundungnus. Maybe they'll use Ginny in it? Oh, I bet they will....
decarus July 30th, 2009, 1:51 am I thought Mundungus was cast? They may just be background characters sort of like the ones that pick up Harry at the beginning of OotP. It actually isn't necessary that they be known characters.
Also, Mundungus wasn't killed in the book. He disapparated once he saw Voldemort flying after them which is why they were aware that the real Harry wasn't with Moody.
meesha1971 July 30th, 2009, 3:08 am I thought Mundungus was cast? They may just be background characters sort of like the ones that pick up Harry at the beginning of OotP. It actually isn't necessary that they be known characters.
Also, Mundungus wasn't killed in the book. He disapparated once he saw Voldemort flying after them which is why they were aware that the real Harry wasn't with Moody.
It has been confirmed that Andy Linden was cast to play Mundungus. There are 14 characters involved in The Seven Potters in the book - including the real Harry. The seven Harry's are the real Harry, Ron, Hermione, Fred, George, Fleur, and Mundungus and the seven escorts are Hagrid, Tonks, Kingsley, Arthur, Lupin, Bill, and Moody. I think everyone necessary for that scene has been confirmed except for Kingsley - no word on whether George Harris will return or if the role will be recast as far as I know. It seems likely that they will have Kingsley since they have everyone else - though I have no idea if George Harris is interesting in returning to the role. I hope he is - it would be nice to have the same actor for continuity. :)
Mundungus is a fairly self-explanatory character. Characters like this are used in TV shows and movies all the time - the unsavory bartender who'll give the good guys information for the right price or when threatened, the bumbling thief/con man who's somewhat cowardly but not a bad person, the reporter who trades information in exchange for getting the scoop - easily understandable characters that don't really need much introduction or development.
Panduhbear July 30th, 2009, 3:57 am It has been confirmed that Andy Linden was cast to play Mundungus. There are 14 characters involved in The Seven Potters in the book - including the real Harry. The seven Harry's are the real Harry, Ron, Hermione, Fred, George, Fleur, and Mundungus and the seven escorts are Hagrid, Tonks, Kingsley, Arthur, Lupin, Bill, and Moody. I think everyone necessary for that scene has been confirmed except for Kingsley - no word on whether George Harris will return or if the role will be recast as far as I know. It seems likely that they will have Kingsley since they have everyone else - though I have no idea if George Harris is interesting in returning to the role. I hope he is - it would be nice to have the same actor for continuity. :)
Mundungus is a fairly self-explanatory character. Characters like this are used in TV shows and movies all the time - the unsavory bartender who'll give the good guys information for the right price or when threatened, the bumbling thief/con man who's somewhat cowardly but not a bad person, the reporter who trades information in exchange for getting the scoop - easily understandable characters that don't really need much introduction or development.
True, true. I hope they at least mention his name sometime in the movie though. I also hope that they bring Kingsley back; I loved the way he was portrayed!
Dan_the_Man July 30th, 2009, 4:05 am (Nice signature!)
decarus July 30th, 2009, 4:28 am I agree that it seems likely to me that everyone that is in the scene in the book will be in the scene in the film. This would be a good place to introduce Bill and reintroduce Fleur. They could also have Mundungus be shady so as to explain him when they use him to find out about the locket. I agree that his character doesn't need much of an explanation.
I always wonder how much is going to be different then the book.
GingerPeachy July 30th, 2009, 12:10 pm ^^ What decarus said.
And maybe they could do a short explanation that Bill and Fleur are getting married when they meet in the Dursley's kitchen, kind of like Tonks and Lupin, then Moody get's all miffed and is all, "OH MY GOD, not now!"
That's what I hope will happen anyway. But that could make for some awkward exposition.
I certainly hope they leave in alllll the details surrounding the Seven Potters: The Tonks' house (has Ted Tonks been confirmed?), the stressful waiting for people to arrive by portkey, the loss of George's ear (and the Saintlike comment), Hagrid being suspected...the list could go on, but that's just drabble, right?
AccioHP July 30th, 2009, 5:06 pm http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/7/30/more-on-filming-for-s-potters-scene-in-deathly-hallows
More on the 7 Potters filming.
There is a HELICOPTER involved in this sequence.
9th_Wonder July 30th, 2009, 5:16 pm http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/7/30/more-on-filming-for-s-potters-scene-in-deathly-hallows
More on the 7 Potters filming.
There is a HELICOPTER involved in this sequence.
Thanks for posting.:tu: Hmm, Interesting.
The Helicopter can provide amazing shots from up above while they weave in and out of traffic but there has still been no mention that the scene will include Hagrid and Harry actually flying.
Warner Bros. said this in the article:
"We have been filming at the crossing but we are now back in the Leavesden studio where most of the filming takes place. We rarely go out on location"
Hopefully this means that the traffic sequence is only part of the scene and that the filming of them flying will be done in studio.
lcbaseball22 July 30th, 2009, 5:33 pm Thanks for posting.:tu: Hmm, Interesting.
The Helicopter can provide amazing shots from up above while they weave in and out of traffic but there has still been no mention that the scene will include Hagrid and Harry actually flying.
Warner Bros. said this in the article:
Hopefully this means that the traffic sequence is only part of the scene and that the filming of them flying will be done in studio.
Yeah, I'm slightly worried...but I really doubt they'd be stupid enough to put the entire sequence on the ground. Part of what makes it so exciting and unique is that it's a mid-air battle! I'm pretty confident this will just be a small portion of the whole sequence and there will be plenty of action in the sky as well :whistle: And yeah, I think the flying portion would have to be filmed in studio using special rigs or something
JJFinch July 30th, 2009, 6:27 pm I was wondering what that could be of. Now that you say it's her leaving her parent's it does make sense. It looks like she is upset too.
I don't mind this being added in, it'd be nice to see. I wonder if Hermione will tell Harry and Ron this and then the scene will flashback to this moment...?
Hmm, much as I agree it would be a lovely scene to see, I'm not sure that's what it was. In fact, I'm not actually convinced that that picture was Emma as Hermione - look at what she's wearing; pump shoes aren't a nineties fashion (in Britain), nor are the other things she's wearing. That looks like Emma, not Hermione. (Then again, when have they bothered about it being the nineties, particularly when it comes to Emma?)
If it is Hermione, then it might be a scene in which Harry is under the invisibility cloak, during Ron's...absence...which also explains her expression.
It'll be interesting to find out! :)
EDIT: Hmm, I've just looked at the picture again, and I suppose that it must be Hermione, not just Emma, 1) Because of the beaded bag and 2) because of her expression. So it looks like the 90's setting has well and truly been thrown out of the window :rolleyes:. Also, if that is her leaving her parents house, it looks very wintry - I mean, it should be summer, and although I wouldn't expect sunshine in summer (because that's just too optimistic) it surely wouldn't be cold enough to wear that jacket? Maybe I'm just being far to picky...:scared:
Panduhbear July 30th, 2009, 7:25 pm I really hope they decide to use flying in the battle! It can't just be on the ground, the muggles would see it :P
AccioHP July 30th, 2009, 7:51 pm I think they will have flying during the 7 Potters. They'll film it in the studio though. They'll probably use a green screen.
Also since they are having a helicopter in the sequence I think they most likely will be flying as well. It kind of creates a sort of obstacle in the air.
decarus July 30th, 2009, 8:10 pm EDIT: Hmm, I've just looked at the picture again, and I suppose that it must be Hermione, not just Emma, 1) Because of the beaded bag and 2) because of her expression. So it looks like the 90's setting has well and truly been thrown out of the window :rolleyes:. Also, if that is her leaving her parents house, it looks very wintry - I mean, it should be summer, and although I wouldn't expect sunshine in summer (because that's just too optimistic) it surely wouldn't be cold enough to wear that jacket? Maybe I'm just being far to picky...:scared:
You act like the 90s is thirty years ago. I mean fashion has changed, but not that much. I also think that the stories are supposed to just be the time it is now. I am not even sure if a date was ever stated in the books. I know that if the first book was written in 97 and Harry was 11 then it is what 03 in DH if you go by that date. Right? Or are there other dates?
I sort of like the idea that the story just exists in the time it is so clothing looking more modern doesn't bother me, though it is strange they always dress like muggles. To be fair, i always thought it was strange that the adults didn't know how to dress like muggles in the books. I mean everyone has to have muggle relatives or muggle neighbors. I don't think that makes sense in general and am fine with the change for the films.
Wow, you made me feel old and i am not even that old.
lcbaseball22 July 30th, 2009, 8:17 pm You act like the 90s is thirty years ago. I mean fashion has changed, but not that much. I also think that the stories are supposed to just be the time it is now. I am not even sure if a date was ever stated in the books. I know that if the first book was written in 97 and Harry was 11 then it is what 03 in DH if you go by that date. Right? Or are there other dates?
I sort of like the idea that the story just exists in the time it is so clothing looking more modern doesn't bother me, though it is strange they always dress like muggles. To be fair, i always thought it was strange that the adults didn't know how to dress like muggles in the books. I mean everyone has to have muggle relatives or muggle neighbors. I don't think that makes sense in general and am fine with the change for the films.
Wow, you made me feel old and i am not even that old.
Yeah, I know what you mean. The 90's weren't that long ago...and consist of the majority of my childhood :lol:
Actually, there was dates in the books. I can't recall exactly when or where right now but the story takes place in the 90's, that I know for sure. However, the movies have deviated from this ever since PoA I think it was...maybe even earlier. I've noticed a HD TV in one of the films :lol: And then in HBP, the bridge they attack is the Millenium Bridge...which wasn't built until the new millenium, hence the name ;)
Personally it doesn't bother me one bit. It's such an insignificant detail. It really doesn't matter if the story is set now or 50 years ago. :shrug:
AccioHP July 30th, 2009, 8:22 pm Yeah, I know what you mean. The 90's weren't that long ago...and consist of the majority of my childhood :lol:
Actually, there was dates in the books. I can't recall exactly when or where right now but the story takes place in the 90's, that I know for sure. However, the movies have deviated from this ever since PoA I think it was...maybe even earlier. I've noticed a HD TV in one of the films :lol: And then in HBP, the bridge they attack is the Millenium Bridge...which wasn't built until the new millenium, hence the name ;)
Personally it doesn't bother me one bit. It's such an insignificant detail. It really doesn't matter if the story is set now or 50 years ago. :shrug:
Yeah I agree. The date doesn't bother me at all.
I think on Lily and James' gravestones they have the date they died, which I think was in the late 80s? That through me off a bit b/c I wasn't thinking then that the books were in the 90s :lol: I just thought of them as in the present time. Not a big detail.
RemusPotter July 30th, 2009, 8:24 pm I think they will have flying during the 7 Potters. They'll film it in the studio though. They'll probably use a green screen.
Also since they are having a helicopter in the sequence I think they most likely will be flying as well. It kind of creates a sort of obstacle in the air.
Now it would be really funny, if the Death Eaters were flying with the helicopter after Harry & Hagrid.:lol:
lcbaseball22 July 30th, 2009, 8:30 pm I actually think it's cool how the films seemingly set the story in current day. Lends more to "there could be this whole other world just out of sight, co-existing with our own" fantasies. Maybe there's currently a Hogwarts hidden somewhere. :lol: :p How cool would that be? :cool:
Plus it's easier to relate to I think, if set currently. Hmm, I wonder if it's post 9-11 in the films...if this happened in the "muggle world" :hmm:
AccioHP July 30th, 2009, 8:35 pm I actually think it's cool how the films seemingly set the story in current day. Lends more to "there could be this whole other world just out of sight, co-existing with our own" fantasies. Maybe there's currently a Hogwarts hidden somewhere. :lol: :p How cool would that be? :cool:
Plus it's easier to relate to I think, if set currently. Hmm, I wonder if it's post 9-11 in the films...if this happened in the "muggle world" :hmm:
I'ver always wondered that, if they'd know about 9/11 or not?
decarus July 30th, 2009, 8:40 pm Ok, i looked up the date of James and Lilly's death. It was Halloween, which i remembered because everything happens on Halloween in Harry Potter world, so that is October 31 of 1981. This would mean Harry was born 31 July 1980 because he was one year old when they died. This mean he would be 17 in 1997 which is when DH takes place.
I guess, i always assumed that since the books were published in 1997 that was the year Harry was 11 years old. I guess not. Regardless, i still like them dressing more modern.
Panduhbear July 30th, 2009, 11:44 pm I sort of like the idea that the story just exists in the time it is so clothing looking more modern doesn't bother me, though it is strange they always dress like muggles.
I really agree with you, to me, the story exists now, not when it was written.
Ekia July 31st, 2009, 5:25 am I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but I'm in the middle of rereading DH and something just popped into my head. I have a feeling (and I hope I'm wrong) that they're going to cut the entire Godric's Hollow scene out and if not cut it completely, butcher it terribly.
A few reasons I'm starting to think this. First, it really does add nothing when it comes to the Horcrux hunt. It's just a very nice, emotional scene for Harry. Second, I really believe that the second part (Bathilda's Secret) is really the most distrubing chapter in the entire series and if they actually filmed this as is in the books it may simply be too disturbing. Third, while experiencing Voldy's first attempt on Harry's life is very important in the books, they really have not focused much on it in the movies and I really don't see it as necessary.
Once again I hope I am wrong but I really don't see this being in the film....thoughts?
SiriusBlack101 July 31st, 2009, 5:46 am I'd be surprised if it wasn't in the film. With two films to work with, I expect most of the book will translate to the screen.
Also, I believe I heard that Daniel Radcliffe talked about fighting with a "tennis ball on a stick" or something during the HBP media blitz. I don't know if it was ever confirmed to be Nagini, but it seems like a good possibility.
Panduhbear July 31st, 2009, 6:12 am I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, but I'm in the middle of rereading DH and something just popped into my head. I have a feeling (and I hope I'm wrong) that they're going to cut the entire Godric's Hollow scene out and if not cut it completely, butcher it terribly.
A few reasons I'm starting to think this. First, it really does add nothing when it comes to the Horcrux hunt. It's just a very nice, emotional scene for Harry. Second, I really believe that the second part (Bathilda's Secret) is really the most distrubing chapter in the entire series and if they actually filmed this as is in the books it may simply be too disturbing. Third, while experiencing Voldy's first attempt on Harry's life is very important in the books, they really have not focused much on it in the movies and I really don't see it as necessary.
Once again I hope I am wrong but I really don't see this being in the film....thoughts?
I think that they will include it, but change it somehow. Just my two cents.
Jack5555 July 31st, 2009, 6:42 am I think that they will include it, but change it somehow. Just my two cents.
I don't think it will be changed too much, maybe just shortened a bit.
Klio July 31st, 2009, 7:34 am I think Godric's Hollow will be in, It's altoghether too cinematic to be cut, IMHO. Funnily enough, I have seen a few treatements of DH for a one-film version, and I think even those all had Godric's Hollow in (if anything would be cut there, it is more likely that it would be the scene at Xenophilius' house, which is essentialy a parallel, but a lot less dramatic). As it is, with a two-shot DH, I think they'll have both.
They'll shorten GH a bit, and probably simplify it (as many here have mentioned, they really ought to have Radcliffe and Watson do the whole scene, not some other actors playing Harry and Hermione on Polyjuice), but it'll be there all right. It would be crazy to leave it out, really. It comes at a point when after a lot of camping and bickering we really need some action!
decarus July 31st, 2009, 12:58 pm Also, I believe I heard that Daniel Radcliffe talked about fighting with a "tennis ball on a stick" or something during the HBP media blitz. I don't know if it was ever confirmed to be Nagini, but it seems like a good possibility.
In the interview Dan actually says that he was fighting Nagini. He says the word Nagini and that he was fighting it with a chair. The punching bag on a stick hit the chair and then hit Dan in the face and he got sort of knocked out for a second, i think, but he was fine. I think he scared one of the producers to death though.
Pearl_Took July 31st, 2009, 1:29 pm On the HP books and their -- very loose -- 90s setting, as it pertains to Hermione's clothes in the DH film
Lily and James died in October 1981, which means that Harry began his school career in autumn 1991. He finally defeats Voldemort in May 1998.
However, there are very few cultural references in the books to Muggle Britain in the '90s. JKR's Muggle Britain is as much a fantasy place as her Wizarding World is. The Prime Minister visited by Scrimgeour at the beginning of HBP should have been John Major, if we're going by the correct timeline (late summer 1996) but I doubt that JKR had John Major in mind. ;)
Therefore the films aren't doing anything wrong in pretty much ignoring the 90s setting. The Millennium Bridge, used in the HBP film, wasn't built until 2000. ;)
It really doesn't matter, IMO. :)
GingerPeachy July 31st, 2009, 2:22 pm Therefore the films aren't doing anything wrong in pretty much ignoring the 90s setting. The Millennium Bridge, used in the HBP film, wasn't built until 2000.
For some reason, I was really tickled by the truth of this!! :lol:
Elito July 31st, 2009, 3:16 pm I was tempted to say the battle of hogwarts, or rather, the scene where Harry turns the stone and sees his parents, Lupin and Sirius in the forest, but I'd also have to include the parts where Ron leaves and then returns, and the "Here Lies Dobby" scene which I know will tear my heart out. The one scene I hope they omit (but know they won't) will be when Hedwig is killed - I won't be able to handle that. The best part will be when Molly kills Bellatrix and Harry kills Tom Riddle (and I am a peaceful person).
Yes, yes, yes I definitelly think that Dobby's death is going to be heartkbreaking I hope they do it right....I choose the ministry scene in the poll because I want to see the scene when Harry scapes, he is at the core of the ministry and he saves not only himself but other people as well.
I think they will have flying during the 7 Potters. They'll film it in the studio though. They'll probably use a green screen.
Also since they are having a helicopter in the sequence I think they most likely will be flying as well. It kind of creates a sort of obstacle in the air.
This is good news for me I feared that they would try to do the scene in land.
I really hope they decide to use flying in the battle! It can't just be on the ground, the muggles would see it :P
I don't think deatheaters (or filmakers even) care about the secrecy thing
I sort of like the idea that the story just exists in the time it is so clothing looking more modern doesn't bother me, though it is strange they always dress like muggles. .
Agree too, I mean young people is Ok dressing muggle style, but all the adults or most of them anyways should wear wizard clothing.
jp5 July 31st, 2009, 7:42 pm Has anybody mentioned yet anything about Dumbledore´s story?
I think it would be great as a prologue to the first movie or even the 2nd one... The FULL story and they should start it like with an 'unknown' wizard all the bad things he did and evrything just to reveal that he is Dd... it is very important to the story and i have no idea how are they gonna include it..
SevrusSnape July 31st, 2009, 8:34 pm I think they will have flying during the 7 Potters. They'll film it in the studio though. They'll probably use a green screen.
Also since they are having a helicopter in the sequence I think they most likely will be flying as well. It kind of creates a sort of obstacle in the air.
They better have flying for this scene and not do it on the ground. I'm sure a good portion of this will be CGI except for really close up scenes
AccioHP July 31st, 2009, 9:51 pm http://snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/video-matthew-lewis-talks-deathly-hallows-filming-harry-ron-hermione-66317/
A really nice interview with Matt Lewis. At the end he talks about filming for DH. He did 2 weeks of filming a couple of months ago with Dan, Emma, and Rupert. He said it was really dialogue heavy for him. He says he's like the resistance leader. He was all bloodied up and his hair a mess. I have a feeling this was when Harry, Ron and Hermione meet Neville through the portrait from the Hog's Head!:)
Also he said he talked to David Yates about the Final Battle scene and said it would be like nothing we've ever seen.
I previously thought the Wedding scene was being filmed this week but I was wrong.
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/7/31/deathly-hallows-update-video-matt-lewis-interview-date-for-wedding-scene
It will start being filmed August 10th
lcbaseball22 August 1st, 2009, 5:01 am http://snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/video-matthew-lewis-talks-deathly-hallows-filming-harry-ron-hermione-66317/
A really nice interview with Matt Lewis. At the end he talks about filming for DH. He did 2 weeks of filming a couple of months ago with Dan, Emma, and Rupert. He said it was really dialogue heavy for him. He says he's like the resistance leader. He was all bloodied up and his hair a mess. I have a feeling this was when Harry, Ron and Hermione meet Neville through the portrait from the Hog's Head!:)
Also he said he talked to David Yates about the Final Battle scene and said it would be like nothing we've ever seen.
I previously thought the Wedding scene was being filmed this week but I was wrong.
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/7/31/deathly-hallows-update-video-matt-lewis-interview-date-for-wedding-scene
It will start being filmed August 10th
Yeah, I was just looking at both of these articles. With Matt saying that there was "a great deal of dialogue" it seems to me this might indicate they're having Neville recount (as in the book) what went on at Hogwarts while the trio was gone. Hopefully they will make use of voiceover and flasbacks here as opposed to just having Neville tell it all. I want to actually SEE tortures, DA reforming and recruiting, etc
Was kinda hoping this stuff would be inserted into the first film as short scenes to break up camping, but oh well...as long as it is in Part 2
Oh, and personally I'm not that thrilled that they've cast Bill and brought Fluer back at such a late stage in the game. I'd rather them make Harry 17th B-Day the big event during which the Death Eaters attack...but well alright, I guess keeing the wedding is canon at least :shrug:
I'm still curious what they are going to do about The Burrow since they set fire to it in HBP and seemingly didn't put it out :lol:
Vadermort August 1st, 2009, 5:04 am I'm interested to see if they keep the beginning the same. After all the romance and lovey-dovey stuff in HBP, if they open the movie the same was as the book, it will be a complete 180 from the mood of the 6th film, and just drop the audience in the terror's that are occurring with Voldemort in his full return. Seeing a hostage dangling above the death eaters and then being eaten by a snake after being AK'ed would be a real chilling way to open up the movie.
lcbaseball22 August 1st, 2009, 5:10 am I'm interested to see if they keep the beginning the same. After all the romance and lovey-dovey stuff in HBP, if they open the movie the same was as the book, it will be a complete 180 from the mood of the 6th film, and just drop the audience in the terror's that are occurring with Voldemort in his full return. Seeing a hostage dangling above the death eaters and then being eaten by a snake after being AK'ed would be a real chilling way to open up the movie.
I don't agree it would be "a complete 180" Sure there was some "romance and lovey-dovey stuff" in HBP, but there is a dark undertone throughout and the dark material was the darkest yet, IMO. But yeah, "Dark Lord Ascending" should make a great opening, agree there :tu:
Vadermort August 1st, 2009, 5:20 am I don't agree it would be "a complete 180" Sure there was some "romance and lovey-dovey stuff" in HBP, but there is a dark undertone throughout and the dark material was the darkest yet, IMO. But yeah, "Dark Lord Ascending" should make a great opening, agree there :tu:
In the film HBP, I thought that the major focus was the romance stuff. Yeah, the dark plot involving Voldemort's past and Malfoy, but their isn't a significant dark moment until Dumbledore's death (the attack on the Burrow is there as well). For non-book readers, going from a movie that is, especially the first 2/3 more geared towards romance, to the 'Dark Lord Ascending' will be a fairly large deviation for them.
snapes_witch August 1st, 2009, 6:57 am I'm still curious what they are going to do about The Burrow since they set fire to it in HBP and seemingly didn't put it out :lol:
I don't see it as much of a problem; if we Muggles are able to rebuilt a house, I'm sure wizards could do it pretty quickly.
lcbaseball22 August 1st, 2009, 7:49 am I don't see it as much of a problem; if we Muggles are able to rebuilt a house, I'm sure wizards could do it pretty quickly.
True, and I wonder if this will be said and/or shown...but the other issue is The Burrow has pretty much been nullified as a safe haven now
spellotapepolly August 1st, 2009, 10:24 am Hi, been following for a bit so, hopefully nothing's too off topic.
Was kinda hoping this stuff would be inserted into the first film as short scenes to break up camping, but oh well...as long as it is in Part 2
Yeah, i was hoping they'd do that too but, hopefully we'll get to see some of the death eaters perspective? Like, the same way we got to see what Malfoy was up to throughout HBP. It would be a nice contrast to the trio and break up all of the camping.
Insomniatic August 1st, 2009, 12:25 pm Battle Of Hogwarts, that's when it all starts flowing together again for me, in regards to the book, in the book it's kind of insane till that point then I feel at home again, so I think that scene I will automatically love the most come time I see it!
thefirestorm August 1st, 2009, 2:04 pm Battle Of Hogwarts, that's when it all starts flowing together again for me, in regards to the book, in the book it's kind of insane till that point then I feel at home again, so I think that scene I will automatically love the most come time I see it!
I kind of agree with you, to a point.
I will absolutely love deathly hallows, i tihnk it will be the most exciting movie.
But with every movie, I always love the start. But once they get to hogwarts it's like the center of a Harry Potter movie for me. Seeing them in hogwarts makes me feel like its "home" aswell.
It will be weird watching DH Part 1 and not seeing the hogwarts express or hogwarts.
SybillOnWheels August 1st, 2009, 6:19 pm In the film HBP, I thought that the major focus was the romance stuff. Yeah, the dark plot involving Voldemort's past and Malfoy, but their isn't a significant dark moment until Dumbledore's death (the attack on the Burrow is there as well). For non-book readers, going from a movie that is, especially the first 2/3 more geared towards romance, to the 'Dark Lord Ascending' will be a fairly large deviation for them.
Um...no...just no. :no:
I just saw the film for the 4th time last night, and I have to disagree completely with everything you just said.
The major focus was not the romance. The only reason that it stuck out at all to people was because of how hilarious the romantic scenes were. There were only two "romantic" moments in the entire first 1/3 part of the movie (the waitress, which was like 15 seconds, and Lavender saying hi to Ron, which was like 2 seconds).
The bulk of the romance was set in the middle 1/3 of the film, and even then it was diluted with the Slughorn plot and the Voldemort plot.
There really was not that much romance in the movie at all; again, the only reason it sticks out is because of how funny it is, and let's face it...we're not used to getting humor that's actually funny in a HP movie.
SevrusSnape August 1st, 2009, 7:44 pm Um...no...just no. :no:
I just saw the film for the 4th time last night, and I have to disagree completely with everything you just said.
The major focus was not the romance. The only reason that it stuck out at all to people was because of how hilarious the romantic scenes were. There were only two "romantic" moments in the entire first 1/3 part of the movie (the waitress, which was like 15 seconds, and Lavender saying hi to Ron, which was like 2 seconds).
The bulk of the romance was set in the middle 1/3 of the film, and even then it was diluted with the Slughorn plot and the Voldemort plot.
There really was not that much romance in the movie at all; again, the only reason it sticks out is because of how funny it is, and let's face it...we're not used to getting humor that's actually funny in a HP movie.
Yea I'd have to agree with this, sure there was romance but it wasn't enough to take over the movie and the comedy was genuinely funny. Hopefully for DH there isn't a lot of humor though.
Vadermort August 1st, 2009, 8:24 pm Um...no...just no. :no:
I just saw the film for the 4th time last night, and I have to disagree completely with everything you just said.
The major focus was not the romance. The only reason that it stuck out at all to people was because of how hilarious the romantic scenes were. There were only two "romantic" moments in the entire first 1/3 part of the movie (the waitress, which was like 15 seconds, and Lavender saying hi to Ron, which was like 2 seconds).
The bulk of the romance was set in the middle 1/3 of the film, and even then it was diluted with the Slughorn plot and the Voldemort plot.
There really was not that much romance in the movie at all; again, the only reason it sticks out is because of how funny it is, and let's face it...we're not used to getting humor that's actually funny in a HP movie.
I can already tell we're not going to see eye to eye on this, but anyways...
They open the film with a waitress hitting on Harry, show impending romance at the Weasley's between both Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione. They have the love potion at Fred and George's, where they discuss Ginny's love life. After some brief deviation with the Draco plot and an intro of potions class, we have the romance/comedy dominant part of the film with Quidditch, Hermione's jealousy of Ron/Lavender, Dean and Ginny making out in the Three Broomsticks, the train ride, and the awkwardness of Ginny tying Harry's shoe.
They definately sacrificed some of the Voldemort plot with romance scenes, as is evidence by only having 2 memories of his past. They had 2 different ways they could have gone with this film - the 'sex, drugs, rock and roll of Harry Potter' or they could have made this a movie hugely about Voldemort, which after knowing how the series ends, is what I had expected and hoped they would do.
Granted, this is still my 2nd or 3rd favorite film, behind PoA and around the same as OotP, but Yates seems to pick one aspect of the book and focus on it a little too much. But was still pleasantly surprised and satisfied with this film.
Panduhbear August 1st, 2009, 8:31 pm Woah, moved thread! o.o
I can already tell we're not going to see eye to eye on this, but anyways...
They open the film with a waitress hitting on Harry, show impending romance at the Weasley's between both Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione. They have the love potion at Fred and George's, where they discuss Ginny's love life. After some brief deviation with the Draco plot and an intro of potions class, we have the romance/comedy dominant part of the film with Quidditch, Hermione's jealousy of Ron/Lavender, Dean and Ginny making out in the Three Broomsticks, the train ride, and the awkwardness of Ginny tying Harry's shoe.
They definately sacrificed some of the Voldemort plot with romance scenes, as is evidence by only having 2 memories of his past. They had 2 different ways they could have gone with this film - the 'sex, drugs, rock and roll of Harry Potter' or they could have made this a movie hugely about Voldemort, which after knowing how the series ends, is what I had expected and hoped they would do.
Granted, this is still my 2nd or 3rd favorite film, behind PoA and around the same as OotP, but Yates seems to pick one aspect of the book and focus on it a little too much. But was still pleasantly surprised and satisfied with this film.
I agree. I think the focus was on romance in this movie.
lcbaseball22 August 1st, 2009, 8:56 pm Um...no...just no. :no:
I just saw the film for the 4th time last night, and I have to disagree completely with everything you just said.
The major focus was not the romance. The only reason that it stuck out at all to people was because of how hilarious the romantic scenes were. There were only two "romantic" moments in the entire first 1/3 part of the movie (the waitress, which was like 15 seconds, and Lavender saying hi to Ron, which was like 2 seconds).
The bulk of the romance was set in the middle 1/3 of the film, and even then it was diluted with the Slughorn plot and the Voldemort plot.
There really was not that much romance in the movie at all; again, the only reason it sticks out is because of how funny it is, and let's face it...we're not used to getting humor that's actually funny in a HP movie.
Yep, I completely agree. :agree: There was a heck of a lot less romance than in the book actually...I was surprised just how little was in the film after hearing from some how overwhelming it was. Overall I think the film was very well balanced, although the romance portion was kinda all clumped together for like 30 minutes of the film but as you said...a few cheesy moments aside, it was genuinly funny and entertaining
I am hoping DH is more of a dark and emotional film from beginning to end though. It is quite a change from the more "free-spirited" HBP
Jessica August 1st, 2009, 10:11 pm I'm not a huge movie fan but I think Yates stays pretty true to the spirit of the book given the time constraints of the movie format. The book had a lot of romance - the movie had a fair bit. I think a lot of fans would have been disappointed if some of those key Trio development scenes had been left out.
I have a feeling that DH 1 is going to be a combo of HBP and the first half of DH. Likely a lot of the Voldemort scenes regarding horcrux identity wouldn't be meaningful to movie audiences in Movie 6. So I envision a letter from Dumbledore or a trip to Dumbledore's office to look through that memory vault where Harry gets some more background on the horcrux hunt.
meesha1971 August 1st, 2009, 10:40 pm Ok, i looked up the date of James and Lilly's death. It was Halloween, which i remembered because everything happens on Halloween in Harry Potter world, so that is October 31 of 1981. This would mean Harry was born 31 July 1980 because he was one year old when they died. This mean he would be 17 in 1997 which is when DH takes place.
I guess, i always assumed that since the books were published in 1997 that was the year Harry was 11 years old. I guess not. Regardless, i still like them dressing more modern.
There was a lot of discussion about the time line in the books prior to DH. There were little hints and clues to the story being set in the 90's - the date of Nearly Headless Nick's death was used to figure it up at one point, but it was speculative and Jo didn't really confirm anything until DH when she put the specific dates on James and Lily's gravestones to show they died in 1981.
The movies haven't really given much towards the actual time line though - it's always been more of a "this is happening right now" type feel with the movies. Though it wouldn't be that far off - only about 12 years or so. However, that makes me wonder how they'll handle Harry visiting his parents' graves. Will they stick with the time line given in the book and put the dates as 1960 to 1981 or will they change that to fit the events of DH happening in 2010/2011?
Yep, I completely agree. :agree: There was a heck of a lot less romance than in the book actually...I was surprised just how little was in the film after hearing from some how overwhelming it was. Overall I think the film was very well balanced, although the romance portion was kinda all clumped together for like 30 minutes of the film but as you said...a few cheesy moments aside, it was genuinly funny and entertaining
I am hoping DH is more of a dark and emotional film from beginning to end though. It is quite a change from the more "free-spirited" HBP
I agree. I still don't like how they handled the whole thing with Harry and Ginny, but I felt the film was very well balanced between the romance and the darker aspects of the story. I think the climax in particular will leave the audience with the expectation that DH is going to be more dramatic and emotional.
Meggy August 1st, 2009, 10:46 pm Definitely the battle of Hogwarts. They missed it out of the Half Blood Prince to stop it being like a repeat in the Deathly Hallows, so I can only hope that means they have something truly spectacular coming for that scene.
I hope it's very long, with lots of drama and explosions and bangs....Can't wait to see everyone kicking butt. Will be amazing.
:) But Im looking forward to everything, I just hope for once they do everything by the book, because the last book is amazing and nothing should be changed about it.
I believe fans would like to see the books' scenes come alive, and people who haven't read the book would be missing out on a lot if the movie didn't follow the books plot properly!! Can't wait.
Panduhbear August 2nd, 2009, 2:35 am I bet for Lily and James' graves, if they include them, the just won't put a date. Just put something like "Lily and James RIP". :whistle:
ignisia August 2nd, 2009, 2:47 am Can I pick more than one? Please? :D
I can't wait for The Silver Doe, Malfoy Manor, The Prince's Tale, and The Flaw in the Plan. :D
Busterella August 2nd, 2009, 9:46 pm I certainly hope Bill and Fleur's wedding will be included for several reasons, we've never seen Bill and the wedding was one of the last truly positive moments in the last book.
dchristen03 August 2nd, 2009, 10:42 pm From Mugglenet: they will start shooting the wedding scene August 10.
I'm pretty sure they'll keep in Clemence and Bill, for they are important for Shell Cottage and the wedding.
meesha1971 August 3rd, 2009, 12:19 am I bet for Lily and James' graves, if they include them, the just won't put a date. Just put something like "Lily and James RIP". :whistle:
I hope they keep the phrase that was engraved on the stone - The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death. I thought that was very fitting with Harry needing to learn that death was not the end. :)
From Mugglenet: they will start shooting the wedding scene August 10.
I'm pretty sure they'll keep in Clemence and Bill, for they are important for Shell Cottage and the wedding.
Yeah, they cast Domhnall Gleeson to play Bill and it has been confirmed that Clemence is returning to play Fleur. They'll most likely be part of the Seven Potters scene and Shell Cottage as well. Bill is definitely at Shell Cottage - there were pictures of him at the location shoot for Shell Cottage.
GingerPeachy August 3rd, 2009, 2:37 am I hope someone can get some stills from the Wedding shoot. I'd like to see the Weasley's all decked out :) That's definitely starting tomorrow in some capacity, by the way.
merrymarge August 3rd, 2009, 3:30 am I can't wait to see King's Cross. That will be something to see! Ican't wait for the whole movie! the whole thing is going to be great!
Panduhbear August 3rd, 2009, 4:11 am I really hope they will start, slowly but surely, releasing some DH pictures. I'm eager!
Saebel August 3rd, 2009, 6:17 am So far every film has missed scenes that I really anticipated. True, some were completely unimportant and were scrapped as a plotpoint early on, but many would have been nice to see, and the included ones really disappoint. I prefer additional content (HBP very excluded!) because I have no expectation of it! ;)
Still:
I'd be looking forward to the Dursleys Depart, but they're not likely to be included...and certainly not well. Shame, that was a good scene.
I would also look forward to a montage or similar of Snape's memories, but again I don't think this will be included. Snape will probably sit Harry down with have a butterbeer and explain it all. :rolleyes:
Definitely the final battle, and hopefully a decent epilogue.
(...Boy, does that sound a little negative? Sorry, I saw HBP recently...)
meesha1971 August 3rd, 2009, 6:25 am So far every film has missed scenes that I really anticipated. True, some were completely unimportant and were scrapped as a plotpoint early on, but many would have been nice to see, and the included ones really disappoint. I prefer additional content (HBP very excluded!) because I have no expectation of it! ;)
Still:
I'd be looking forward to the Dursleys Depart, but they're not likely to be included...and certainly not well. Shame, that was a good scene.
I would also look forward to a montage or similar of Snape's memories, but again I don't think this will be included. Snape will probably sit Harry down with have a butterbeer and explain it all. :rolleyes:
Definitely the final battle, and hopefully a decent epilogue.
(...Boy, does that sound a little negative? Sorry, I saw HBP recently...)
Well, the Dursleys have been confirmed for DH so we do have that to look forward to. :)
Saebel August 3rd, 2009, 6:36 am Well, the Dursleys have been confirmed for DH so we do have that to look forward to. :)
Oh, good, thanks. That's promising for the Seven Potters, at least.
JoAdams August 3rd, 2009, 8:54 am Am I the only one who doesn't anticipate these films at all?
Especially Part One. It's going to be truly boring. The first half of the film is a boring road story with very few important moments (Seven Potters, Ministry,Godric's Hollow, Xeno Lovegood, Silver Doe) and the rest of it is...underwhelming. Even the Seven Potters scene would look ridiculous. And the Ministry is another 'important' scene that lacks so much. So overall I hope Part One will be handled differently. I didn't even get that 'war' feel. In general I didn't like the DH :P
Part Two will be definitely better. Loads better. But it should be an epic film in every single way. Because it needs to be handled that way. The Malfoy Manor/Shell Cottage/Gringotts/Prince's Tale/Forest Again chapters are some of the most well-written in the series. Yet, the battle was underwhelming too. I didn't feel anything. And Voldemort's death was almost laughable. I don't know. I am prejudiced :P But I guess I should wait for a teaser in order to get an idea of how things are shot. These films can be very good and I think Kloves' script will be lots better. But we'll see.
NeilSquib86 August 3rd, 2009, 2:34 pm I think the molly weasley killing bellatrix lestrange scene will be cringeworthy. I thought it was cringeworthy in the book and I am not looking forward to the film adaptation.
I'm looking forward to godrics hollow scenes the most, I hope they're done very darkly, and we wont have to put up with ron's big face poking in every scene.
Must be admitted that a lot of my favourite scenes in the book (kings cross; princes tale etc) I'm not looking forward to in the film because they'll either be done wrong and spoiled, or the acting will be bad.
JustMeWayne August 3rd, 2009, 2:38 pm im quite looking forward to the H/H kiss.
itll be a chance for Dan and Emma to act evil.
i can imagine their heads appearing out of the locket, and emma looks at ron with red gleaming eyes, and she does some evil pose before they both kiss. The kiss will be punctuated with more glances at Ron too :p
poor ron ...
NeilSquib86 August 3rd, 2009, 2:40 pm im quite looking forward to the H/H kiss.
itll be a chance for Dan and Emma to act evil.
i can imagine their heads appearing out of the locket, and emma looks at ron with red gleaming eyes, and she does some evil pose before they both kiss. The kiss will be punctuated with more glances at Ron too :p
poor ron ...
I'm wondering if that'll even be in the film.
GingerPeachy August 3rd, 2009, 3:40 pm I'm wondering if that'll even be in the film.
Emma is quoted somewhere saying that she'll have to kiss "both Rupert and Dan", so I'm assuming that it will be included.
And do we have any more info on Seven Potters? Or just what we've seen so far from the stunt work photos? I wonder if they'll be devoted most time to the Wedding scene.
I'm getting really interested to see how their going to introduce Bill and, subsequently, how they're going to tell us that Bill and Fleur are getting married.
A while back, someone mentioned a "montage" of sorts, as an idea for the Potters scene. I would love that, as Yates has show a certain level of expertise with his montage-like shots. Would particularly like to see Snape's accidental injury of George. But I think the shock of that moment, as well as the moment with Mad-Eye, was really chilling in the book, so I wouldn't be disappointed if that wasn't shown.
Hysteria August 3rd, 2009, 3:45 pm I'm wondering if that'll even be in the film.
Oh I cant see them leaving that out... not a chance for Emma to kiss both boys in the same film! They'll keep it... I'm wondering how they'll do the locket corrupting the boys without it looking too much like The One Ring.
mrfutterman August 3rd, 2009, 7:45 pm Oh I cant see them leaving that out... not a chance for Emma to kiss both boys in the same film! They'll keep it... I'm wondering how they'll do the locket corrupting the boys without it looking too much like The One Ring.
Good question. Especially as some of the other horcruxes are found and despatched so quickly and easily. My call would be not to put too much emphasis on the locketcrux. After all, Harry has reason enough to be miserable at this stage of the proceedings. And they really ought to avoid making Ron look like a greedy so-and-so who sulks because he isn't getting 3 meals a day. Again, my call would be to get rid of Ron quickly after the heist, rather than have him trailing along after Harry and Hermione, moaning and complaining. One big argument - and get rid of him.
Panduhbear August 3rd, 2009, 8:30 pm I saw an interview with Daniel, where he says something to the effect of: "Emma and Rupert's kiss will be awkward to film. I have to kiss her too, but I don't think it will be that awkward." So we know that the Riddle kiss is a go :D
JustAnIllusion August 3rd, 2009, 8:47 pm Am I the only one who doesn't anticipate these films at all?
You're not the only one. I wasn't particularly fond of DH either, mostly because of the way it meandered. The end was really great, but the camping trip that never ends made me want to tear my hair out. Thus:
...Part One. It's going to be truly boring. The first half of the film is a boring road story with very few important moments
And Voldemort's death was almost laughable.
So true! I hope they make Harry's defeat of Voldy less of a coincidence ("I just happened to disarm Draco, so I just happen to be the master of the elder wand, lucky me!") and more of a reflection of the theme of the novel... mastering death.
I certainly hope Bill and Fleur's wedding will be included for several reasons, we've never seen Bill and the wedding was one of the last truly positive moments in the last book.
Well, Bill having never been seen is actually a reason not to include him, IMHO. I still wish the wedding would've been Lupin and Tonks, or they would've just made it Harry's seventeenth birthday.
Peachy August 3rd, 2009, 9:11 pm I voted for the 7 Potters scene. I'm wondering how it'll look in the movie.
I'm also excited for The Prince's Tale, I want to see Snape as a kid, and his softer side. I hope they include the quote "always".
Also, the last scene will be interesting. Seing the trio as adults with their own kids. I'm wondering what the last words of the second movie will be, will it be the same as in the book: "all was well". I think that was a really unoriginal, dull ending.
Dedalus Diggle August 3rd, 2009, 9:18 pm Am I the only one who doesn't anticipate these films at all?
Especially Part One. It's going to be truly boring. The first half of the film is a boring road story with very few important moments (Seven Potters, Ministry,Godric's Hollow, Xeno Lovegood, Silver Doe) and the rest of it is...underwhelming. Even the Seven Potters scene would look ridiculous. And the Ministry is another 'important' scene that lacks so much.
A lot of the text developed the emotional impact of various things., Those will be shown in brief ways in the movie, just as OOTP used the newspaper montages. The Seven Potters is too good an opportunity for both humor and adventure. For instance, Hermione and Fleur will take the polyjuice, then harry will watch in horror as they strip down to bra and panties with HIS BODY IN THEM. As horrifying an image as most 17 year old boys could imagine! Then the chase afterward should be great excitement. The Ministry scene can be an opportunity to abuse Umbridge once again, while showing the Trio trying to help the poor muggleborns afflicted by the Ministry (for instance by tossing them all their wands so they can disapparate and go into hiding)
lovehedwig August 3rd, 2009, 9:45 pm It was too hard choosing the one scene I am anticipating, but I chose Malfoy Manor, because it was just so thrilling. It had me on the edge of my seat!
But, I'm looking forward to A LOT of the scenes. I'm hoping they can somehow wrap everything together, even though they left out a lot of important details from the previous books.
It's definitely going to be very emotional, especially the second part of the movie, just because most of the chapters ARE emotionally sad and touching, especially the Prince's Tale, which I PRAY they do justice, and the Forest Again. The Battle of Hogwarts is very action-packed, so I hope they do THAT justice, as well.
I'm glad they're keeping the Harry/Hermione kiss. Just because it really triggers Ron's, er, "beastly" emotions towards Hermione. :lol:
But I'm not too thrilled they did the kiss between Ron/Hermione different. Somewhere in an interview, I think they said Harry was not present during the kiss, so I guess maybe they did the kiss when they were back in the Chamber of Secrets? or maybe even before that? I don't know what to expect.
I'm also looking forward to the Seven Potters. :D I hope they do both Hedwig and Moody's death justice, even though we don't really see Moody dying.
Oh, and I really want the scene with the Dursleys to be there. The awkwardness of it was heart-warming for me. hahaha, especially when Dudley said such nice things to Harry. And I also want them to show Petunia turn around, as if wanting to speak, but turning away. I though that was touching, for some reason.
I can't wait for this movie. :)
danno August 3rd, 2009, 9:58 pm I'm really looking forward to DH, and I know Dobby plays an important role, but with all the minor characters about to get introduced: Mundungus, Scrimgeor, Xenophillius, Bill: and the minor characters that will be re-introduced: Fluer, Kreacher, Ollivander, Griphook: should they even bother bringing back Dobby? Now, if they had used him in the past few films, this wouldn't be a problem: but bringing him back now; well, it just seems like they are bringing him back just to kill him off. His character hasn't been built up or anything... it'll be like he just comes out of nothing. I heard they were going to re-introduce his character earlier in the movie, but even so... I'm not sure if they should even bother. Harry and the others could simply apparate themselves out of Shell Cottage or... I dunno, what do other people think about this?
JoAdams August 3rd, 2009, 10:51 pm Well yes but Part 1 will be 135-155 minutes logically. If it follows a certain pattern like:
-Dursleys departing
-Seven Potters
-Burrow scenes + Wedding
-London + Grimmauld Place
-Ministry of Magic
-Camping
-Godric's Hollow
-Silver Doe
-Xeno Lovegood
-Snatchers
Plus the scenes with Death Eaters and Voldemort's Elder Wand Journey...
this makes a 100/110-minute film. It would become extremely boring if these scenes are even longer. So I guess that if they handle the entire film properly then maybe it will be a surprising film. It's not just the fact that it needs more action. And it definitely lacks a proper climax anyway. In all films we had good climaxes. PoA didn't have exactly a climactic moment just 30 minutes of revelations and short action parts. GoF had the powerful Maze and Graveyard sequences and then Cedric's death and Moody's true identity which built the second best climax in the series,IMO. OotP's climax was underwhelming in many parts. I still can't understand why some people claim it was action-packed. Yes it did have the Voldemort duel and 3 minutes of action during the Department of Mysteries scenes but except for that...yet, I liked how they focused on the Possession scene but disliked the fact that Sirius's death was so indifferent. HBP's climax IMO is the best. Slughorn's confession is emotional, it leads to the Horcruxes scene which is chilling, leading then to the best climactic moment of the series: the Cave. Then the Astronomy Tower focuses on the emotional side of the story and then Dumbledore is killed. The short chase at Hogwarts shows Dumbledore's not there to protect the school anymore. And the closing moments of the climax are extremely emotional (wand tribute). Even though my only problem was the lack of a fight at the castle I found that it worked lots better in the film. Yes there should have been more protection but I became emotional during the Cave/Tower scenes and the scene with Snape was powerful in its short duration. And the wand tribute made my eyes wet eventually. So I find this a really satisfying ending. But the problem is...what about DH Part One? How could a forest chase scene with the Snatchers that will last less than 10 minutes be powerful enough to call it a climax? And how could the first film make non-readers wait for the second part? This is one of the reasons I hated the split.Of course they could end the film with Malfoy Manor but that leaves few things to Part 2. Shell Cottage-Gringotts-Hogsmeade-Hogwarts. Scenes that CAN'T run 150 minutes. That would...drag. So there's a problem IMO. The first part is based on the first half of the book where almost nothing happens. And half of it is full of Harry's thoughts and emotions. Whatever...I know we'll just have to wait and see but I don't expect anything spectacular from Part 1.
HermioneG05 August 3rd, 2009, 10:52 pm I just saw HBP a few days ago with a friend who has not read any of the books. She laughed at the romance things, like Hermione sending the birds after Ron or hitting him with the book. But at the same time, I noticed she was also staring at the screen and caught up in the drama of the scenes with Malfoy and Dumbledore. I think Yates did a great job in OotP and HBP of trying to capture the general feeling- the seriousness of the death eaters and the muggle world being attacked, but also giving us some humor and the romance between the characters. In the end, DH is in his hands...so we just have to hope he gives us balance there- jokes or light-hearted moments as well as the serious drama we're expecting.
That being said, I voted for the battle scene. But like many of you have said, there are a lot I am looking forward to.
I think it could be a good idea to have Hermione with her mom. It could be a moment to show those who have not read the book once again how serious things are and that unfortunately, families are being torn apart and this might be the last time she sees them.
As far as the scenes with Snape, I think they won't have time for all of them. But some of them are very important and the story won't make sense without them. I want them to show at least 4:
1. Snape crying and asking DD to save Lily because he knows LV is going to target them (They need to include the doe patronus and link it to him so this would be a good moment. If they do not link it to Snape, viewers who have not read the book won't understand who left it in the forest of dean for Harry).
2. Snape and Lily at Hogwarts where she says they cannot be friends anymore and how devastated he was.
3. Snape promising to fulfill the dead if Draco cannot. (People who have not read the books need to see him as more than a one demensional cardboard villan).
4. Harry being a Horcrux...or the walk into the forest to meet LV is going to seem like cowardice on Harry's part, like he did run away to end it. We need to see that he knows he is going to die and it's the only way to end it. Besides it underlines why he is in Grffindor instead of Slytherin, right?
As far as Matthew's remarks about lots of dialogue in the Room of Requirement, it doesn't necessarily have to be him explaining how they kept the DA going. I would love to see that included as flashbacks in the camping scenes so we get the idea of this not being just about Harry and LV, but about the fate of the wizarding world and how everyone is standing up to him. Neville's lines could be explaining how he called everyone there with the coins from the DA as well as him asking Harry why he and everyone else cannot help. It could be a whole speech on his dismay that Harry is just going to leave them there to deal with the DE and reminding him that the DA was about doing something real.
I think they could easily simplify the whole story of the elder wand. If they show a flashback while Harry is talking of Draco disarming LV, it would make it clear that Draco's wand was the elder wand all along. I know when I read the books I was confused and had to read that passage, as well as the one in Kings Cross where they talk about Lily's protection being in both Harry and LV, more than once before I completely understood. It's just a lot to take in. But I do not think Harry can use AK! No way. It needs to be expelliarmus to show that he does not have to descend to the level of LV to end it all. And if you are going to use Expelliarmus, the explanation of the elder wand is more important than before to explain how it is more powerful and was able to rebound AK onto LV.
It would be nice if they included DD's funeral...but to save time, since the wedding is in there, maybe it could be the front page of the Daily Prophet with a photo of the white tomb and Fawkes soaring away over it?
TX_Grindelwald August 4th, 2009, 7:56 am I voted for the 7 Potters scene. I'm wondering how it'll look in the movie.
I'm also excited for The Prince's Tale, I want to see Snape as a kid, and his softer side. I hope they include the quote "always".
Also, the last scene will be interesting. Seing the trio as adults with their own kids. I'm wondering what the last words of the second movie will be, will it be the same as in the book: "all was well". I think that was a really unoriginal, dull ending.
I was looking forward to that too. But then I remembered that this is Yates we're dealing with. The entire Prince's Tale will most likely be cut down to about 35 seconds of unsubstantial flashbacks followed by unecessary humor despite the fact Harry is marching to his death.
It would be cool to see Snape as a kid though and his friendship with Lily. One of my favorite parts of the book.
slyduck August 4th, 2009, 9:16 am I was looking forward to that too. But then I remembered that this is Yates we're dealing with. The entire Prince's Tale will most likely be cut down to about 35 seconds of unsubstantial flashbacks followed by unecessary humor despite the fact Harry is marching to his death.
Yeah I'm still feeling quite sore over miserly few seconds of Snape Worst Memory in OoTP movie. And when is young Snape and young Lily ever going to be cast?
thefirestorm August 4th, 2009, 10:01 am You're not the only one. I wasn't particularly fond of DH either, mostly because of the way it meandered. The end was really great, but the camping trip that never ends made me want to tear my hair out.
I actually really enjoyed the whole camping storyline. I thought it was really enjoyable :D
I still think my most anticipated moments are the Battle of Hogwarts, Malfoy Manor and Godric's Hollow.
Oh, and the Prince's tale, and the Gringotts break-in.
Haha, might as well say everything.
Though it probably won't be included, I really want to see Luna's room. I have a feeling they'll just visit Xeno's house, but not go into Luna's room.
Peachy August 4th, 2009, 11:29 am I was looking forward to that too. But then I remembered that this is Yates we're dealing with. The entire Prince's Tale will most likely be cut down to about 35 seconds of unsubstantial flashbacks followed by unecessary humor despite the fact Harry is marching to his death.
It would be cool to see Snape as a kid though and his friendship with Lily. One of my favorite parts of the book.
Yeah, it would be sad if that happens.
One of my favourite parts was that Snape really was good. I never could decide if he was bad like Harry always thought, or if we should trust Dumbledore who always believed in Snape. But after Snape killed Dumbledore in HBP I thought for sure he was bad, I just couldn't see any way he could not be. That's why I liked The Prince's Tale so much. We got to see a new side of Snape, a side we never thought he was capable of having.
It would be too bad if the only-movie goers don't get to see that.
ThaiHPFan August 4th, 2009, 12:13 pm Yeah I'm still feeling quite sore over miserly few seconds of Snape Worst Memory in OoTP movie. And when is young Snape and young Lily ever going to be cast?
Aren't they cast already? Young Snape appeared in OOTP and young Lily appeared in HBP (Slughorn's photo).
Saebel August 4th, 2009, 1:11 pm Yeah, it would be sad if that happens.
One of my favourite parts was that Snape really was good. I never could decide if he was bad like Harry always thought, or if we should trust Dumbledore who always believed in Snape. But after Snape killed Dumbledore in HBP I thought for sure he was bad, I just couldn't see any way he could not be. That's why I liked The Prince's Tale so much. We got to see a new side of Snape, a side we never thought he was capable of having.
It would be too bad if the only-movie goers don't get to see that.
I don't think DH will do Snape justice, even though that's one character consistency the film seems to have had throughout. And if I'm right (not often...*sigh*) JKR revealed to Alan Rickman early on that Snape was ultimately a good guy, so he's been playing with that. While it was great to see the contrast acted out so well, I think it will allow for a lazy resolution in the final movie.
MasterOfDeath August 4th, 2009, 9:56 pm Well yes but Part 1 will be 135-155 minutes logically. If it follows a certain pattern like:
-Dursleys departing
-Seven Potters
-Burrow scenes + Wedding
-London + Grimmauld Place
-Ministry of Magic
-Camping
-Godric's Hollow
-Silver Doe
-Xeno Lovegood
-Snatchers
Plus the scenes with Death Eaters and Voldemort's Elder Wand Journey...
this makes a 100/110-minute film. It would become extremely boring if these scenes are even longer. So I guess that if they handle the entire film properly then maybe it will be a surprising film. It's not just the fact that it needs more action. And it definitely lacks a proper climax anyway. In all films we had good climaxes. PoA didn't have exactly a climactic moment just 30 minutes of revelations and short action parts. GoF had the powerful Maze and Graveyard sequences and then Cedric's death and Moody's true identity which built the second best climax in the series,IMO. OotP's climax was underwhelming in many parts. I still can't understand why some people claim it was action-packed. Yes it did have the Voldemort duel and 3 minutes of action during the Department of Mysteries scenes but except for that...yet, I liked how they focused on the Possession scene but disliked the fact that Sirius's death was so indifferent. HBP's climax IMO is the best. Slughorn's confession is emotional, it leads to the Horcruxes scene which is chilling, leading then to the best climactic moment of the series: the Cave. Then the Astronomy Tower focuses on the emotional side of the story and then Dumbledore is killed. The short chase at Hogwarts shows Dumbledore's not there to protect the school anymore. And the closing moments of the climax are extremely emotional (wand tribute). Even though my only problem was the lack of a fight at the castle I found that it worked lots better in the film. Yes there should have been more protection but I became emotional during the Cave/Tower scenes and the scene with Snape was powerful in its short duration. And the wand tribute made my eyes wet eventually. So I find this a really satisfying ending. But the problem is...what about DH Part One? How could a forest chase scene with the Snatchers that will last less than 10 minutes be powerful enough to call it a climax? And how could the first film make non-readers wait for the second part? This is one of the reasons I hated the split.Of course they could end the film with Malfoy Manor but that leaves few things to Part 2. Shell Cottage-Gringotts-Hogsmeade-Hogwarts. Scenes that CAN'T run 150 minutes. That would...drag. So there's a problem IMO. The first part is based on the first half of the book where almost nothing happens. And half of it is full of Harry's thoughts and emotions. Whatever...I know we'll just have to wait and see but I don't expect anything spectacular from Part 1.
Yes, I agree with you about the lack of climax for part one being a problem but I actually think the split will only work if they split right after Dobby's burial. There is no other scene climactic enough to blow out into a climax other than Malfoy Manor. Splitting after Dobby's burial provides a climax, a falling action and a resolution with Harry finally choosing to go after horcruxes again, denouncing the temptations of the Hallows. It will be a cliffhanger but not a literal TV-esque one.
I don't see how it would work to start Part two off with Malfoy Manor...DH2 will be the very last Potter film ever. I'd like if it felt like it's own movie. It could start at Shell Cottage where Harry questions Ollivander and Griphook reminding the audience of what happened in the previous film and getting all the exposition out of the way, then we jump immediately into Gringotts bank heist, slowing down a bit with the Final hiding place, Aberforth, Meeting Neville and the DA) and right into the battle of Hogwarts. It reminds me of the beginning of Return of the Jedi where the film started with an exciting action sequence and then went directly into the climax (Battle of Endor) which took up most of the movie as it should being that this is the end of the series.
It's also good to fit as much as they can into DH1. I want the ending of the series done justice. I don't want it rushed. The battle of Hogwarts has to be the middle of the movie. If it's the end, then scenes like the Prince's Tale and The Forest Again will drag the movie on and on. I think they should take absolute advantage of the split in this regard. Those endings are so vital. They deserve the proper time and pacing.
JustAnIllusion August 4th, 2009, 10:26 pm Young Snape:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNuZvz918XY&feature=player_embedded
Young Lily was cast for OOTP, and they shot Snape's Worst Memory with her in it. Somebody posted pictures in an olddd version of the thread; she was fighting with James. Later, however, Mark Day cut her out. A lot of people assume this is because Harry will see the memory later, in DH... except this time, with Lily in it, or something.
I still wish they would've cut the whole of SWM in OOTP, because including it as it was made little to no sense. It was confusing, IMHO.
AccioHP August 4th, 2009, 11:36 pm http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/videos-evanna-lynch-matthew-lewis-talk-deathly-hallows-train-filming-66396/
Interviews with Evanna Lynch and Matthew Lewis. Apparently they are gonna film scenes involving the Hogwarts Express that'll be in film 1.
9th_Wonder August 4th, 2009, 11:55 pm http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/videos-evanna-lynch-matthew-lewis-talk-deathly-hallows-train-filming-66396/
Interviews with Evanna Lynch and Matthew Lewis. Apparently they are gonna film scenes involving the Hogwarts Express that'll be in film 1.
Thanks for posting :tu:
Nice to know we'll see a little bit of Hogwarts in part 1 (if you can call the Hogwarts Express part of Hogwarts lol). It would be nice to see what it's like without the trio being there.
As someone on snitchseeker suggested, maybe they'll have the death eaters kidnap Luna while she's on the Hogwarts express. :hmm:
AccioHP August 5th, 2009, 2:49 am Thanks for posting :tu:
Nice to know we'll see a little bit of Hogwarts in part 1 (if you can call the Hogwarts Express part of Hogwarts lol). It would be nice to see what it's like without the trio being there.
As someone on snitchseeker suggested, maybe they'll have the death eaters kidnap Luna while she's on the Hogwarts express. :hmm:
Yeah, that'd be good if they showed her getting taken.
I wonder if they'll show anything from Hogwarts in the first film? I read somewhere that either Yates or Heyman says they don't even go near Hogwarts in the first film though. I wonder if he means that the trio isn't near it or the movie itself?
Panduhbear August 5th, 2009, 5:32 am http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/videos-evanna-lynch-matthew-lewis-talk-deathly-hallows-train-filming-66396/
Interviews with Evanna Lynch and Matthew Lewis. Apparently they are gonna film scenes involving the Hogwarts Express that'll be in film 1.
Wow, that was excellent, thank you very much! :drool: I love both Matt and Evanna, especially Evanna. She is so lovely and Luna-esq.
I'm so glad that we're going to see a bit of Hogwarts, or at least the Hogwarts express, in the first movie!
JustMeWayne August 5th, 2009, 9:22 am I voted for the 7 Potters scene. I'm wondering how it'll look in the movie.
I'm also excited for The Prince's Tale, I want to see Snape as a kid, and his softer side. I hope they include the quote "always".
Also, the last scene will be interesting. Seing the trio as adults with their own kids. I'm wondering what the last words of the second movie will be, will it be the same as in the book: "all was well". I think that was a really unoriginal, dull ending.
as long as yates doesnt resort to narration, we wont hear all was well.
i dont have the book with me, but the last spoken line in the epilogue was
"I know he will."
harry said that in response to ginny about albus severus.
so maybe if that sentence was tweaked abit?
slyduck August 5th, 2009, 3:11 pm Aren't they cast already? Young Snape appeared in OOTP and young Lily appeared in HBP (Slughorn's photo).
Haha my memory is failing me, I can't seem to remember seeing young Lily's photo in HBP. Even then, unless I'm ill-informed, heard that the actor for young Snape has not been called up for DH shooting. Tried googling, came up empty regarding news of him being recast. So... I am not betting on anything right now! It will really suck if they cut him out heh!
Looking forward to adult!trio and the kids! :D Hope they wrap the series up well. (:
TX_Grindelwald August 5th, 2009, 3:44 pm In all films we had good climaxes. PoA didn't have exactly a climactic moment just 30 minutes of revelations and short action parts. GoF had the powerful Maze and Graveyard sequences and then Cedric's death and Moody's true identity which built the second best climax in the series,IMO. OotP's climax was underwhelming in many parts. I still can't understand why some people claim it was action-packed. Yes it did have the Voldemort duel and 3 minutes of action during the Department of Mysteries scenes but except for that...yet, I liked how they focused on the Possession scene but disliked the fact that Sirius's death was so indifferent. HBP's climax IMO is the best. Slughorn's confession is emotional, it leads to the Horcruxes scene which is chilling, leading then to the best climactic moment of the series: the Cave. Then the Astronomy Tower focuses on the emotional side of the story and then Dumbledore is killed. The short chase at Hogwarts shows Dumbledore's not there to protect the school anymore. And the closing moments of the climax are extremely emotional (wand tribute). Even though my only problem was the lack of a fight at the castle I found that it worked lots better in the film. Yes there should have been more protection but I became emotional during the Cave/Tower scenes and the scene with Snape was powerful in its short duration. And the wand tribute made my eyes wet eventually.
I respectfully disagree with you. Dumbledore's death doesn't seam that much more indifferent than Sirius' to me. We got a cheesy wand tribute and Harry and Snapes face off was very underwhelming in my opinion. Also with very little discussion afterward and no phoenix lament we don't really get hit by the impact DD's death has on the wizarding world.
The two minutes of DD and Voldemort's duel plus the possesion scene beats everything from HBP starting at Slughorn's confession and ending at Snape's escape. HBP just downplayed everything that seemed to matter in my opinion.
Now GOF was a wonderful climax... the graveyard scene was great (I complained about it being a little short at the time but after having Yates for two movies I have come to appreciate it much more) followed by Cedric's father who did a wonderful job showing grief...I was hoping to see a lot more of the emotional range Rickman could give us as Snape at the end of HBP but thanks to Yates that didn't happen unfortunately.
Peachy August 5th, 2009, 5:58 pm as long as yates doesnt resort to narration, we wont hear all was well.
i dont have the book with me, but the last spoken line in the epilogue was
"I know he will."
harry said that in response to ginny about albus severus.
so maybe if that sentence was tweaked abit?
Oh, I actually didn't think about that. I looked it up and you're right.
But still, I'm interested in seing how the ending will be in the movie as opposed to the book, if it's still kind of dull or if they manage to spice it up a bit.
GingerPeachy August 5th, 2009, 7:08 pm I truly hope they don't butcher the epilogue. That could be dangerous. I didn't like the epilogue when I read it to begin with, mainly because I felt the closure to be a bit too quick. I wanted to know more about Teddy than just his snogging habits, and I wanted to perhaps see that George was oh, still alive? I realize it can't be drawn out, but it would be nice if they added in a few details that have come to the surface since JKR has revealed them. Seeing Luna older would be nice.
9th_Wonder August 5th, 2009, 7:19 pm Haha my memory is failing me, I can't seem to remember seeing young Lily's photo in HBP. Even then, unless I'm ill-informed, heard that the actor for young Snape has not been called up for DH shooting. Tried googling, came up empty regarding news of him being recast. So... I am not betting on anything right now! It will really suck if they cut him out heh!
Looking forward to adult!trio and the kids! :D Hope they wrap the series up well. (:
Young Lily is in the first photo Slughorn show's Harry when they first meet. She was standing right next to him. There were more students in the photo though and they all had their glasses raised as if they were toasting to the camera.
For the sake of continuity, I hope they recast the actor who played young Snape. They've recast the same actors for other roles so I'm not too worried.
decarus August 5th, 2009, 8:25 pm Wasn't the Lilly in the photo in HBP the same woman who has been playing Lilly all along? I didn't think it was a young Lilly which i guess doesn't make a lot of sense, but just the same Lilly as always.
MasterOfDeath August 5th, 2009, 9:32 pm Wasn't the Lilly in the photo in HBP the same woman who has been playing Lilly all along? I didn't think it was a young Lilly which i guess doesn't make a lot of sense, but just the same Lilly as always.
It did look like the same actress but it looked like they aged her down like they did Jim Broadbent later in the movie.
LordThingy August 5th, 2009, 10:45 pm I haven't been keeping up with this thread, but I stumbled upon this today. sorry if it has been posted :]
"At last month's Irish premiere and accompanying junket, actors Evanna Lynch and Matthew Lewis spoke about how their roles in Half-Blood Prince became more peripheral, which allowed them to watch much more of the filming than before. Evanna also admitted that there will be a train sequence filmed for Deathly Hallows Part I which will show the Hogwarts students (sans Harry, Ron, and Hermione) heading to their very-altered school."
That's interesting! I hope they film a few scenes at Hogwarts and such to show what the rest of the world is doing while the trio is on the road. this makes me excited.
edit: oh! i guess it was posted. but i am rather excited that they are doing these. it'll add more variety to the movie. I want to see Snape in the headmaster's office too.
boushh August 5th, 2009, 11:15 pm Wasn't the Lilly in the photo in HBP the same woman who has been playing Lilly all along? I didn't think it was a young Lilly which i guess doesn't make a lot of sense, but just the same Lilly as always.
I think they tried to make her a bit younger, but even so all of the people in the photo did not look school age. So it was my impression that these were people that Slughorn kept up a connection with after they left school. Since in the films James and Lily look older than 21 when they died, I think it's possible that the time line is a little different for the films. So I could see the Lily in the photos being an early 20's Lily, just a few years before her death.
I figure if they do keep anything of teenage Lily then someone else will be used for that portion of the role.
HPFanNZ August 7th, 2009, 4:05 am The Leaky Cauldron are reporting (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/8/6/deathly-hallows-update-rumors-on-seven-potters-scrimgeour-plus-new-ootp-high-res-photos) a few new rumours to do with scenes for Scrimgeour, more filming for The Seven Potters and rehearsals for the Delacour/Weasley wedding.
And yes, they have rebuilt the Burrow.
katana August 7th, 2009, 4:27 am http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/first-deathly-hallows-bovingdon-airfield-set-photos-66458/
Bovingdon Airfield set photos! That is.........a LOT of lights. But I can't figure out what this scene would be for. :\
boushh August 7th, 2009, 4:52 am All I can think of is Seven Potters...
LJB85 August 7th, 2009, 4:55 am I haven't been keeping up with this thread, but I stumbled upon this today. sorry if it has been posted :]
"At last month's Irish premiere and accompanying junket, actors Evanna Lynch and Matthew Lewis spoke about how their roles in Half-Blood Prince became more peripheral, which allowed them to watch much more of the filming than before. Evanna also admitted that there will be a train sequence filmed for Deathly Hallows Part I which will show the Hogwarts students (sans Harry, Ron, and Hermione) heading to their very-altered school."
That's interesting! I hope they film a few scenes at Hogwarts and such to show what the rest of the world is doing while the trio is on the road. this makes me excited.
edit: oh! i guess it was posted. but i am rather excited that they are doing these. it'll add more variety to the movie. I want to see Snape in the headmaster's office too.
That is exciting news. It is good that they will show Hogwarts? Can you imagine a Harry Potter movie without a single shot of Hogwarts school?
It also sounds good cause they'll be adding more scenes and stuff. Instead of just having Harry quote the article where it said Snape became head, they'll show it!
Apheka August 7th, 2009, 10:17 am This is my first posting.
I think that if Ron and Hermione have their moment in the Chamber of Secrets the what if Harry and Ginny go to the Room of Requirement to retrieve the diadem without R and H. Ginny hid the book and may remember seeing the diadem and could guide Harry to it.
They don't have much time during the battle and Harry does not stop to talk to her on his way to the forest.
GingerPeachy August 7th, 2009, 3:02 pm http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/first-deathly-hallows-bovingdon-airfield-set-photos-66458/
Bovingdon Airfield set photos! That is.........a LOT of lights. But I can't figure out what this scene would be for. :\
Ooh, this is so exciting!!! Hopefully some shots of the actors will ensue :)
Panduhbear August 7th, 2009, 5:44 pm This is my first posting.
I think that if Ron and Hermione have their moment in the Chamber of Secrets the what if Harry and Ginny go to the Room of Requirement to retrieve the diadem without R and H. Ginny hid the book and may remember seeing the diadem and could guide Harry to it.
They don't have much time during the battle and Harry does not stop to talk to her on his way to the forest.
That's a good idea, and I think they might do something like that. But the thing is, remember the "battle" (if it can be called that) of the room of requirement? When Harry, Ron, Hermione, Draco, and Goyle escape on brooms? That scene is in the movie, so I wonder how they'd work that out if Ron and Hermione weren't there.
danno August 7th, 2009, 5:53 pm This has the potential to be absolutely amazing. I really hope they don't screw this up...
HBP lacked action, but it was still really good. But I hope they don't leave any of the action out. I already can't wait for this and it's more than a year until it's release date. :(
Hopefully they don't push back the release date again.
LordThingy August 7th, 2009, 7:39 pm This has the potential to be absolutely amazing. I really hope they don't screw this up...
HBP lacked action, but it was still really good. But I hope they don't leave any of the action out. I already can't wait for this and it's more than a year until it's release date.
Hopefully they don't push back the release date again.
It's possible, but I think Harry (and Ginny if they include her) would need Ron and Hermione's help with the fiend fire action that goes on in there.
and as for those pictures of all the giant lights... i think it must be for seven potters. maybe they will have the lights flashing on either side to kind of mimic the effect of spells flying past them?
decarus August 7th, 2009, 9:20 pm That's a good idea, and I think they might do something like that. But the thing is, remember the "battle" (if it can be called that) of the room of requirement? When Harry, Ron, Hermione, Draco, and Goyle escape on brooms? That scene is in the movie, so I wonder how they'd work that out if Ron and Hermione weren't there.
I thought we heard that Blaze was going to be involved somehow. He may bot be involved with the struggle in the Room of Requirements. I guess they could have this moment with Harry just trying to save Ginny instead of the trio. I don't know if i like that idea. I am not really feeling the 'saving Ginny' but there could be worse things that will happen.
Panduhbear August 8th, 2009, 12:17 am I thought we heard that Blaze was going to be involved somehow. He may bot be involved with the struggle in the Room of Requirements. I guess they could have this moment with Harry just trying to save Ginny instead of the trio. I don't know if i like that idea. I am not really feeling the 'saving Ginny' but there could be worse things that will happen.
Oh, you're right, I believe they'll be using Blaze instead of Goyle. But in an interview, Emma Watson said that Hermione gets onto a broom briefly near the end of Deathly Hallows. So we know that she at least is part of that scene.
JustAnIllusion August 8th, 2009, 12:51 am Haha my memory is failing me, I can't seem to remember seeing young Lily's photo in HBP. Even then, unless I'm ill-informed, heard that the actor for young Snape has not been called up for DH shooting. Tried googling, came up empty regarding news of him being recast. So... I am not betting on anything right now! It will really suck if they cut him out heh!
Young Snape:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNuZvz918XY&feature=player_embedded
Young Lily was cast for OOTP, and they shot Snape's Worst Memory with her in it. Somebody posted pictures in an olddd version of the thread; she was fighting with James. Later, however, Mark Day cut her out. A lot of people assume this is because Harry will see the memory later, in DH... except this time, with Lily in it, or something.
I still wish they would've cut the whole of SWM in OOTP, because including it as it was made little to no sense. It was confusing, IMHO.
:)
AccioHP August 8th, 2009, 12:56 am I wonder if the airfield is where Dan and Robbie will film that scene that we saw pics from recently w. the stunt doubles?
harry5678 August 8th, 2009, 3:09 am Okay, I apologize if any of this has been mentioned before at all, but I just now started following the thread, and i'm not afraid to admit I am too lazy to go back thorugh 27 pages and catch-up, I'm sorry. :( But I have a few theories of things that have been mentioned.
1.) I think a few people commented on the absence of the Horcruxes explaination in Hbp, and I think this can EASILY be solved in Deathly Hallows. I think that maybe since they already know they need a locket, and R.A.B. had it, maybe once they figure out the R.A.B. thing and that Umbridge has it, and all that, and they see the locket, with an "S" on it and perhaps it'll have a bit of a Slytherin look to it, they'll conclude it's Slytherin's locket eventually, and perhaps come to the conclusion that they'd need to search for things belonging to the house founders. And I think that it wouldn't be too hard to figure that Nagini is a Horcrux either. So that's my opinion.
2.) I don't know if anyone's mentioned this or not yet, but I remember seeing the Mirror Shard in the Shell Cottage Set Pictures, Dan was holding it up, so it's definately in. My theory is that maybe when they go to Grimmuald Place and Harry goes through Sirius's room, he'll find the Mirror (Perhaps even with the note from Sirus as if Sirius was GOING to give it to him but never got the chance) and he'll try it, get angry and smash it just as he did in Ootp (book). That's my theory on that.
3.) Alot of people assumed that because they showed the stunt doubles riding the Motorcycle on the ground during the Seven Potters scene, that there is no flight. I'm pretty sure that maybe they tried to add more action to the scene (like the Dragon task in "Goblet of Fire"), perhaps Harry and Hagrid land to try and avoid the Death Eaters and they still follow them causing more havoc below, and then they fly up again, or something, I'm still convinced that we'll see them fly.
Sorry, if any of that has already been discussed, but I just like to get my opinion out there. If any of it has, then i'll be sure to follow the thread so I don' miss out on anymore discussion.
SnapesProdigy1 August 8th, 2009, 5:37 am The Battle of Hogwarts is gonna be too good to miss. I just hope they don't screw it up too much
Apheka August 8th, 2009, 7:56 am I hadn't heard that Hermione would be in the room of requirement scene but I thought that not only had Ginny already been in the room but was a much better flyer than Hermione, it would make the fire rescue flying more exciting.
I also want the scene kept in where the death eater Carrow spits on Professor McGonagall and Harry gets him for that.
GingerPeachy August 8th, 2009, 2:50 pm ^^
Ahhh, that's such a chilling moment!!! "You shouldn't have done that."
SO good.
So, this upcoming week is the official shooting of the Wedding Scene, correct? I sure hope we get some pictures!! :)
Panduhbear August 8th, 2009, 5:03 pm I had a thought. At the end of Half Blood Prince, Harry doesn't really appear to break up with Ginny, does he? Hermione talks about him and Ginny snogging, so one can assume she is still together with Harry. I know many people are saying that he will end it with her while staying at the Burrow, but what if he doesn't break up with her at all? I'm thinking that they might just have them still happily together, and then the Death Eaters will come, and Harry will have to disapparate with Ron and Hermione, leaving Ginny behind. He will still be missing her while camping. It's just a thought, but considering how WB sometimes simplifies things like that, it's a possibility.
I'm also very hopeful that we get some wedding pictures!
CrazyMuggle August 8th, 2009, 5:48 pm I had trouble loading the recent audio interview with Dan Radcliffe and I heard he discusses Nagini's role in the film. Anyone hear this? Sorry I haven't had time to review through this entire thread but what exactly does he say about Nagini's role? Is the scene with Nagini in Godric's Hollow included?
Panduhbear August 8th, 2009, 5:55 pm I had trouble loading the recent audio interview with Dan Radcliffe and I heard he discusses Nagini's role in the film. Anyone hear this? Sorry I haven't had time to review through this entire thread but what exactly does he say about Nagini's role? Is the scene with Nagini in Godric's Hollow included?
He says something about a big, frightening snake having a large role in the film.
CrazyMuggle August 8th, 2009, 6:54 pm He says something about a big, frightening snake having a large role in the film.
Then I can assume that scene will more than likely make it. Thanks.
LordThingy August 8th, 2009, 10:18 pm I wonder how they're going to do the whole Voldemort Flying thing... because anyway I imagine it... it looks utterly ridiculous. hahaha.
FlashMemory August 8th, 2009, 10:57 pm They've sort of had him and all the Death Eaters flying around since film five. That's always confused me.
excusemydust August 8th, 2009, 11:13 pm Although I really don't like the films, I'm looking forward to seeing Imelda Staunton as Umbridge again. Plus, the Battle of Hogwarts should be pretty exciting if they remain faithful to the book. Of course, I've heard that Trelawney won't be appearing, so that's pretty depressing in and of itself for me.
Apheka August 9th, 2009, 8:39 am Sorry, I haven't got the hang of the quotes thing yet.
I always thought that the smoke with the Death Eaters was somehow involved with them disapparating instead of riding brooms. But that didn't seem to work when the bridge was destroyed in HBP.
It will have to be brooms in the 7 Potters though or the chase won't look spectacular. If they have Voldemort flying it will have to look as though he's bat like or hovering somehow.
Lizard381 August 9th, 2009, 6:18 pm I had trouble loading the recent audio interview with Dan Radcliffe and I heard he discusses Nagini's role in the film. Anyone hear this? Sorry I haven't had time to review through this entire thread but what exactly does he say about Nagini's role? Is the scene with Nagini in Godric's Hollow included?
I think I saw an interview where he said that they'd filmed the Bathilda Bagshot scene with Nagini. It's going to be so creepy!!
Okay, I apologize if any of this has been mentioned before at all, but I just now started following the thread, and i'm not afraid to admit I am too lazy to go back thorugh 27 pages and catch-up, I'm sorry. :( But I have a few theories of things that have been mentioned.
1.) I think a few people commented on the absence of the Horcruxes explaination in Hbp, and I think this can EASILY be solved in Deathly Hallows. I think that maybe since they already know they need a locket, and R.A.B. had it, maybe once they figure out the R.A.B. thing and that Umbridge has it, and all that, and they see the locket, with an "S" on it and perhaps it'll have a bit of a Slytherin look to it, they'll conclude it's Slytherin's locket eventually, and perhaps come to the conclusion that they'd need to search for things belonging to the house founders. And I think that it wouldn't be too hard to figure that Nagini is a Horcrux either. So that's my opinion.
2.) I don't know if anyone's mentioned this or not yet, but I remember seeing the Mirror Shard in the Shell Cottage Set Pictures, Dan was holding it up, so it's definately in. My theory is that maybe when they go to Grimmuald Place and Harry goes through Sirius's room, he'll find the Mirror (Perhaps even with the note from Sirus as if Sirius was GOING to give it to him but never got the chance) and he'll try it, get angry and smash it just as he did in Ootp (book). That's my theory on that.
3.) Alot of people assumed that because they showed the stunt doubles riding the Motorcycle on the ground during the Seven Potters scene, that there is no flight. I'm pretty sure that maybe they tried to add more action to the scene (like the Dragon task in "Goblet of Fire"), perhaps Harry and Hagrid land to try and avoid the Death Eaters and they still follow them causing more havoc below, and then they fly up again, or something, I'm still convinced that we'll see them fly.
Sorry, if any of that has already been discussed, but I just like to get my opinion out there. If any of it has, then i'll be sure to follow the thread so I don' miss out on anymore discussion.
I agree with all you said! The one thing I'd add is that I think Harry will figure out that Nagini is a horcrux after his encounter with her at Godric's Hollow.
MoodysMagicEye August 9th, 2009, 9:37 pm Jamie Waylett won't return for Deathly Hallows: http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/jamie-waylett-won-t-return-deathly-hallows-66514/
We've received a report, from an attendee at Muggle Mayhem, a Harry Potter convention which took place this weekend in Northampton, England, stating that Joshua Herdman confirmed that Jamie Waylett will not reprise his role as Vincent Crabbe for Deathly Hallows. Furthermore Joshua added that it is his character, Gregory Goyle, that will die instead.
MyHeroIsLuna August 9th, 2009, 9:46 pm Wasn't he arrested for growing marijuana? Or was that the other one? I really don't remember.
Also, I really hope they give Dobby the screentime he deserves. He is a quite amazing character, and that burying scene will be a very emotional one.
rowansjet August 9th, 2009, 9:50 pm That could work. Joshua does look a bit more menacing than Jamie.
MoodysMagicEye August 9th, 2009, 9:51 pm Wasn't he arrested for growing marijuana? Or was that the other one? I really don't remember. Yes that was him, and I imagine thats the reason why he's not in the film.
JR637 August 9th, 2009, 10:02 pm Jamie Waylett won't return for Deathly Hallows: http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/jamie-waylett-won-t-return-deathly-hallows-66514/
I think the more important thing to note in this is a confirmation of the confrontation between Harry and Malfoy at the end of DH.
AccioHP August 9th, 2009, 10:05 pm I was wonderig whether or not he would be in the film. I know he got community service and no jail time so I thought maybe he'd still be in it but I guess this confirms it.
LumosSempra August 9th, 2009, 10:11 pm That whole scene with Nagini at Godric's Hollow is going to freak me out!!! I am deathly afraid of snakes. I know they've shown snakes here and there in the other films, and I've been able to handle watching those, but this whole scene seems like it would be absolutely freakish! Especially with Nagini coming out of Bathilda's dead body! *Eek!*
JR637 August 9th, 2009, 10:14 pm That whole scene with Nagini at Godric's Hollow is going to freak me out!!! I am deathly afraid of snakes. I know they've shown snakes here and there in the other films, and I've been able to handle watching those, but this whole scene seems like it would be absolutely freakish! Especially with Nagini coming out of Bathilda's dead body! *Eek!*
I know Dan talked about fighting with a snake but has this scene been confirmed? Just judging from past changes to the movies, maybe it is Harry that kills the snake at the end?
LumosSempra August 9th, 2009, 10:20 pm I know Dan talked about fighting with a snake but has this scene been confirmed? Just judging from past changes to the movies, maybe it is Harry that kills the snake at the end?
I don't know if it's been confirmed, I just assumed it would be in, but yeah, you never know. But... they can't change it to make Harry kill Nagini!! They can't!! That was Neville's shining moment!! They mustn't!!!
9th_Wonder August 9th, 2009, 10:58 pm Jamie Waylett won't return for Deathly Hallows: http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/jamie-waylett-won-t-return-deathly-hallows-66514/
Oh wow, I saw this coming though.
They said Blaise Zabini was going to have a bigger role in the DH movies
Maybe he's replacing Crabbe as Malfoy's henchman...
LordThingy August 9th, 2009, 11:40 pm Xeno Lovegood scene pretty much confirmed:
"I imagine everyone will say this-the walk through the woods and Platform nine and three quarters. It was such an experience to read, such a catharsis, I remember reading it for the first time and I felt like I could hardly keep up with my own eyes rushing across the pages. It will be so exciting to see how they translate that experience onto film, to see what someone else made of it. And of course the Lovegood house!! I have seen it being made from scratch and been in it and all around it and it is absolutely beautiful, much more vivid and detailed and alive than anything I could ever dream up even while reading the books. I hope they give it good screen time, it truly deserves it. I'm so excited just to see Mr.Lovegood in action. Luna has always been so different and jarring to those around her, it will be so nice to see someone with the same energy and hear his lines, you can't beat the Lovegoods for unpredictability."
-Evanna Lynch on what she is looking forward to seeing most in the movie.
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/8/9/evanna-lynch-on-the-lovegood-house-and-deathly-hallows
that's exciting =D i'm excited to see the explosion part, and of course Luna's room.
Lizard381 August 9th, 2009, 11:41 pm I think the more important thing to note in this is a confirmation of the confrontation between Harry and Malfoy at the end of DH.
Good point - I'm so excited!
I must say, I almost can't wait to see the Voldemort-Harry showdown. That should be thrilling if done right.
LordThingy August 9th, 2009, 11:45 pm That whole scene with Nagini at Godric's Hollow is going to freak me out!!! I am deathly afraid of snakes. I know they've shown snakes here and there in the other films, and I've been able to handle watching those, but this whole scene seems like it would be absolutely freakish! Especially with Nagini coming out of Bathilda's dead body! *Eek!*
oh, i know! I just reread that part last night. That is my favorite scene in the whole series, I hope they do it justice. It's so captivating and the entire time you're on the edge of your seat because you know Voldemort is getting closer and closer. I love it! I also think it's really cool how Harry and Hermione jump out of the window and disapparate in the air, leaving Hermione's screames echoing around. It's so cool, i just hope that they don't use the polyjuice potion in this scene, I'd rather see Emma and Dan.
Panduhbear August 10th, 2009, 1:51 am Jamie Waylett won't return for Deathly Hallows: http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/jamie-waylett-won-t-return-deathly-hallows-66514/
I sort of figured that might happen, where they'd just use Goyle as opposed to Crabbe. I believe that was a clever move on their part.
And whoever mentioned that they suspect Harry will discover that Nagini is a horcrux after visiting Godric's Hollow- I think that is a great and likely theory! :tu:
lovehedwig August 10th, 2009, 2:07 am Xeno Lovegood scene pretty much confirmed:
"I imagine everyone will say this-the walk through the woods and Platform nine and three quarters. It was such an experience to read, such a catharsis, I remember reading it for the first time and I felt like I could hardly keep up with my own eyes rushing across the pages. It will be so exciting to see how they translate that experience onto film, to see what someone else made of it. And of course the Lovegood house!! I have seen it being made from scratch and been in it and all around it and it is absolutely beautiful, much more vivid and detailed and alive than anything I could ever dream up even while reading the books. I hope they give it good screen time, it truly deserves it. I'm so excited just to see Mr.Lovegood in action. Luna has always been so different and jarring to those around her, it will be so nice to see someone with the same energy and hear his lines, you can't beat the Lovegoods for unpredictability."
-Evanna Lynch on what she is looking forward to seeing most in the movie.
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/8/9/evanna-lynch-on-the-lovegood-house-and-deathly-hallows
that's exciting =D i'm excited to see the explosion part, and of course Luna's room.
Oohh, yay! One of my favorite parts in the book! The house is going to be amazing, I expect. Who's playing Mr. Lovegood?
I really hope they add in the part where Harry sees the drawings of him, Ron, Hermione, Ginny, and Neville, with the "friends" necklace. That little moment in DH was really touching, and I loved Luna even more.
That whole scene with Nagini at Godric's Hollow is going to freak me out!!! I am deathly afraid of snakes. I know they've shown snakes here and there in the other films, and I've been able to handle watching those, but this whole scene seems like it would be absolutely freakish! Especially with Nagini coming out of Bathilda's dead body! *Eek!*
I agree, that part was extremely terrifying. I was re-reading DH at night, and I put off reading that part until morning. I couldn't help but think there was going to be an elderly historian watching me sleep and have a snake erupt from her neck. :yuhup: :wow: But strangely enough, I hope they keep that scene. :lol:
decarus August 10th, 2009, 2:13 am I hadn't heard that Hermione would be in the room of requirement scene but I thought that not only had Ginny already been in the room but was a much better flyer than Hermione, it would make the fire rescue flying more exciting.
I remember an interview with Rupert and Emma where they were discussing their bum casts that were made so they could make a special seat for the brooms.
I had trouble loading the recent audio interview with Dan Radcliffe and I heard he discusses Nagini's role in the film. Anyone hear this? Sorry I haven't had time to review through this entire thread but what exactly does he say about Nagini's role? Is the scene with Nagini in Godric's Hollow included?
Dan says that he is fighting a boxing glove on a sitck with a chair. Dan actually says that the boxing glove represents Nagini the snake. This means Dan is in the scene and they are not polyjuiced at this moment. This also cannot be the scene where the snake is killed at the end unless the snake is not killed outside because otherwise where would Harry get a chair from.
Also the Snake being a horcrux has to be killed by the sword, unless they stab it with a fang or it gets caught in the fire. I think it is unlikely they will change such a great moment for Neville's character and give it to Harry. I think one thing that is great about the battle is that everyone does their part. It isn't all Harry.
9th_Wonder August 10th, 2009, 2:14 am Oohh, yay! One of my favorite parts in the book! The house is going to be amazing, I expect. Who's playing Mr. Lovegood?
I really hope they add in the part where Harry sees the drawings of him, Ron, Hermione, Ginny, and Neville, with the "friends" necklace. That little moment in DH was really touching, and I loved Luna even more.
Rhys Ifans has been cast to play Xenophilius Lovegood.
I'm looking forward to this scene as well. The drawings would be a nice detail to add for those who read the books.
Panduhbear August 10th, 2009, 4:26 am Oohh, yay! One of my favorite parts in the book! The house is going to be amazing, I expect. Who's playing Mr. Lovegood?
I really hope they add in the part where Harry sees the drawings of him, Ron, Hermione, Ginny, and Neville, with the "friends" necklace. That little moment in DH was really touching, and I loved Luna even more.
I agree, that part was extremely terrifying. I was re-reading DH at night, and I put off reading that part until morning. I couldn't help but think there was going to be an elderly historian watching me sleep and have a snake erupt from her neck. :yuhup: :wow: But strangely enough, I hope they keep that scene. :lol:
Has Bathilda been cast yet?
lovehedwig August 10th, 2009, 4:44 am Rhys Ifans has been cast to play Xenophilius Lovegood.
I'm looking forward to this scene as well. The drawings would be a nice detail to add for those who read the books.
Ah, thank you. I looked him up and based on his appearance, he's got the blondish-whitish hair going on. And he looks roughly the way I imagined Xenophilius to look like. I haven't seen a movie with him, but he seems promising. :)
Has Bathilda been cast yet?
Rumor has it that Hazel Douglas is playing her, but it's not confirmed.
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/4/3/rumor-alert-bathilda-bagshot-casting-for-deathly-hallows-and-more Thanks to the leaky cauldron for info. :D
LordThingy August 10th, 2009, 6:26 am Dan says that he is fighting a boxing glove on a sitck with a chair. Dan actually says that the boxing glove represents Nagini the snake. This means Dan is in the scene and they are not polyjuiced at this moment. This also cannot be the scene where the snake is killed at the end unless the snake is not killed outside because otherwise where would Harry get a chair from.
Also the Snake being a horcrux has to be killed by the sword, unless they stab it with a fang or it gets caught in the fire. I think it is unlikely they will change such a great moment for Neville's character and give it to Harry. I think one thing that is great about the battle is that everyone does their part. It isn't all Harry.
this is a relief. i didn't think the scene would work if it were an elderly couple. we would be able to see harry's sadness and emotions when he sees his parents grave.. which would make the scene much less touching.
Panduhbear August 10th, 2009, 6:50 am Ah, thank you. I looked him up and based on his appearance, he's got the blondish-whitish hair going on. And he looks roughly the way I imagined Xenophilius to look like. I haven't seen a movie with him, but he seems promising. :)
Rumor has it that Hazel Douglas is playing her, but it's not confirmed.
http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/4/3/rumor-alert-bathilda-bagshot-casting-for-deathly-hallows-and-more Thanks to the leaky cauldron for info. :D
He looks nothing like I imagined Xeno D: I hope they really make him over.
Hazel looks more promising, but still now how I pictured her.
decarus August 12th, 2009, 1:23 pm There is a new set report from DH floating around. I haven't finished reading it, but of interest, is the inclusion of a new scene where Harry and Hermione come upon a burnt out campsite with trailers burned because they were attacked by death eaters.
http://www.chrisandmaria.net/?p=108
This seems strange only because i always imagined them camping in the middle of no where such as in the photos we have of the one camp site.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/camping/camping6.jpg
sincerelysirius August 12th, 2009, 1:28 pm The Prince's Tale. I can't wait to see Severus and Lily together. And I do hope they'd do this part justice and nor shrink it to a handful of flashbacks.
Agreed. That is the one I chose too. I will be throughly disappointed if they do not do this scene justice. It can have so much meaning but I can also see them not portraying it in the proper light but we shall see.
LumosSempra August 12th, 2009, 1:56 pm There is a new set report from DH floating around. I haven't finished reading it, but of interest, is the inclusion of a new scene where Harry and Hermione come upon a burnt out campsite with trailers burned because they were attacked by death eaters.
http://www.chrisandmaria.net/?p=108
This seems strange only because i always imagined them camping in the middle of no where such as in the photos we have of the one camp site.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/camping/camping6.jpg
Great link, decarus, thanks! Unfortunately I can't see the camping photo because my job blocks photobucket :( I do find that kind of strange though, that they're making that addition. Yet another scene that they're adding for effect. Oh well, should be good nonetheless.
From the looks of it, it looks like they're including the white peacock from Malfoy Manor! How cool! Nice attention to detail!
boushh August 12th, 2009, 3:46 pm What a great report. :) Not sure if we knew the possibility of seeing Ron and Hermione in the Chamber of Secrets, but I thought it was great to hear the report of the production sketch of them and the basilisk skeleton. :)
ThaiHPFan August 12th, 2009, 4:22 pm Added attack sequence (probably to show the DEs attacking a muggle village or something):
It appeared to be a bunch of burned trailers / mobile homes. Apparently this is a scene where Harry and Hermione show up at a camp site only to see it’s been attacked by Death Eaters.
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but there's some more interesting information from HP4u.co.uk
http://hp4unews.blogspot.com/
Scrimgeour's scenes, including his speech about the current situation in the wizarding world:
Tuesday, August 04, 2009
Bill Nighy as Rufus Srimgeour!
Widely reported last week, Bill Nighy begun his apparently 'long awaited' venture into the magical Potter world; and the role as Rufus Srimgeour with his first scenes filmed recently.
For all you eagle-eyed HP4U visitors here's a few more facts of his scene's already filmed:
Srimgeour is making a speech whilst at the Ministry of Magic and talking of 'Dark times ahead' He also thrown straight in at the deep end and tasked with the job of reading out the will of Albus Dumbledore and distributing out his belongings; a scene filmed in the sitting room at the Burrows - so yes, to all of you who've written in to ask, it is re-built!
We also understand Bill worked on one of the blue screen stages for photographs to be included in the Daily Prophet.
More to come in the next couple of weeks, including news of the wedding, Malfoy Manor scenes and news of Harry and Ginny kissing?! :-)
Another entry:
Friday, August 07, 2009
More exclusive HP4U filming updates.
First up, we've been asked many times now when the Virginia Water Robin Hood set will be re-used for Harry Potter and the The Deathly Hallows, as it was reported elsewhere. it WONT! which as you can see below is quite a blessing!
So unless you plan on visiting the area in the Holidays then please dont make a special trip to see the set as it is being dismantled. Virginia Water has though been used several times in the previous 6 films (see exclusives) and is a wonderful place to spend the day.
More about Scrimgeour:
An update to our Bill Nighy scenes which he filmed recently and you can read in full in last weeks HP4U news.
Srimgeour's 'moving' photo WILL feature in a special edition of the Daily Prophet in Deathly Hallows pt1, which will be fun to see even if the storyline in which it features isnt!
The motorbike chase:
The 7 Potters!
More action added to the Seven Potters scenes we brought you last month (exclusive images in gallery)
Some great stunt scenes were filmed on Tuesday, Wednesday and yesterday evenings and early into the mornings with Hagrid's and Harry's stunt doubles in action at Bovingdon, Hertfordshire.
This time scenes were added which were difficult to shoot at the Dartford Tunnel location, including crashing through road barriers, flipping over a specially rigged caravan! skidding, getting through and around obstacles and generally just a lot more real time stunt action! this time filmed at an RAF airfield which was set up with a good number of crew, plenty of camera's and lighting rigs - just goes to show, not everything is special effects unless it has to be! - gallery will be updated in time with a few shots of the set and the scenes themselves.
The wedding:
Yesterday (Thursday) also marked a VERY important day Weasley fans! it was full rehearsal for the big Wedding! All the cast were present, including Mrs Weasley (Julie Walters) enjoying herself learning all the dance moves, the twins with an outrageous stunt even for them! and lots of high energy dancing! we'll have much more on this and the wedding itself from the Burrows Orchard ;-) when we get back from Holiday.
Finally, Hagrid himself (Robbie Coltrane) is on the move and begins filming this coming week!
A question to anyone who knows better than me :p Is this HP4u site reliable? This is my firsit time visiting the site and it seems to contain lots of exclusive info so I'm not sure if I can believe all of them (especially after the HBP Scoop fiasco :p).
LordThingy August 12th, 2009, 6:39 pm There is a new set report from DH floating around. I haven't finished reading it, but of interest, is the inclusion of a new scene where Harry and Hermione come upon a burnt out campsite with trailers burned because they were attacked by death eaters.
http://www.chrisandmaria.net/?p=108
This seems strange only because i always imagined them camping in the middle of no where such as in the photos we have of the one camp site.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/camping/camping6.jpg
that's interesting! maybe it could be setting up the deaths of Ted Tonks and Dirk Cresswell? Just a thought. But that's cool that they are including that scene, it'll add more danger to the camping scenes.
lovehedwig August 12th, 2009, 6:50 pm There is a new set report from DH floating around. I haven't finished reading it, but of interest, is the inclusion of a new scene where Harry and Hermione come upon a burnt out campsite with trailers burned because they were attacked by death eaters.
http://www.chrisandmaria.net/?p=108
This seems strange only because i always imagined them camping in the middle of no where such as in the photos we have of the one camp site.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/camping/camping6.jpg
Off topic, but I'm really liking Emma Watson's outfit. :D
Anyways, back on topic, thank you for posting that. I've always imagined them camping out in the woods, surrounded by trees all the time, but I'm glad they're taking another direction in the movie. It'd be a nice change of scenery, and making it in a burned out campsite doesn't take much out of the plot.
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but there's some more interesting information from HP4u.co.uk
http://hp4unews.blogspot.com/
Ah, thank you for posting that!
In regards to the wedding, I'm REALLY excited for it, since it's such a happy, fun-filled event. I'm wondering if they're still going to make Harry in disguise as one of the Weasley relatives for the movie. Same goes for the Godric's Hollow scene; both Hermione and Harry are supposed to be in disguise, but I don't know if they're going to keep that in the movie. :shrug:
Sesquipedalian August 12th, 2009, 7:00 pm Same goes for the Godric's Hollow scene; both Hermione and Harry are supposed to be in disguise, but I don't know if they're going to keep that in the movie. :shrug:
I'd assume that for the scene at Godric's Hollow, Harry will not have taken Polyjuice Potion, as it would be much more emotional to see Daniel Radcliffe sobbing over the Potters' graves than it would be to see some middle-aged man that has only been on-screen for a short amount of time...at least, that is what I believe should be done, if Yates knows what is right for the film. Hermione being in disguise would not bother me so greatly.
GingerPeachy August 12th, 2009, 7:08 pm I really loved reading the set report. I'm really interested in those trailers...probably, as they said a scene where Harry and Hermione find a campsite that's been ravaged by Death Eaters.
Not sure, however, how I feel about them putting make-up on the Seven Potters. I thought for sure they'd just have Dan playing all of them. It would tire him out, but...I dunno. Just feel funny about that.
ThaiHPFan August 12th, 2009, 7:12 pm I really loved reading the set report. I'm really interested in those trailers...probably, as they said a scene where Harry and Hermione find a campsite that's been ravaged by Death Eaters.
Not sure, however, how I feel about them putting make-up on the Seven Potters. I thought for sure they'd just have Dan playing all of them. It would tire him out, but...I dunno. Just feel funny about that.
I'm sure he'll play all of them. The makeup is probably for those standing in the background.
BubbleSnake August 12th, 2009, 7:15 pm There is a new set report from DH floating around. I haven't finished reading it, but of interest, is the inclusion of a new scene where Harry and Hermione come upon a burnt out campsite with trailers burned because they were attacked by death eaters.
http://www.chrisandmaria.net/?p=108
This seems strange only because i always imagined them camping in the middle of no where such as in the photos we have of the one camp site.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/camping/camping6.jpg
So this must be during when Ron left. I have no problems with them adding this, as long as they didnt cut anything to put that in there and it is not too long, but I'm really excited to see it, hearing this makes me think of that scene in Star Wars: A New Hope, when Luke Skywalker pulled up to his burning and smoking home, and saw his aunt and uncle's skeletons and was kinda in shock with John Williams fantastic music playing. I think if they did the scene kinda like that with Harry and Hermione finding burned trailers like that with a bodies on a larger scale maybe with no dialog, depends why they were there, and kept it brief I think that could turn out to be a very good scene imo, but I'm curious to what they're reason for being there is in the scene.
The 7 Potters!
More action added to the Seven Potters scenes we brought you last month (exclusive images in gallery)
Some great stunt scenes were filmed on Tuesday, Wednesday and yesterday evenings and early into the mornings with Hagrid's and Harry's stunt doubles in action at Bovingdon, Hertfordshire.
This time scenes were added which were difficult to shoot at the Dartford Tunnel location, including crashing through road barriers, flipping over a specially rigged caravan! skidding, getting through and around obstacles and generally just a lot more real time stunt action! this time filmed at an RAF airfield which was set up with a good number of crew, plenty of camera's and lighting rigs - just goes to show, not everything is special effects unless it has to be! - gallery will be updated in time with a few shots of the set and the scenes themselves.
I can't help, but get more and more worried about this scene. :lol: Hopefully it turns out good.
Yesterday (Thursday) also marked a VERY important day Weasley fans! it was full rehearsal for the big Wedding! All the cast were present, including Mrs Weasley (Julie Walters) enjoying herself learning all the dance moves, the twins with an outrageous stunt even for them! and lots of high energy dancing! we'll have much more on this and the wedding itself from the Burrows Orchard ;-) when we get back from Holiday.
I hope that Charlie Weasley will be there, would be a shame if he doesn't make it in, he was Bill's best man for the Wedding, but that wedding scene should still be very good :D I'm quite excited for it.
Panduhbear August 12th, 2009, 7:53 pm What a great report. :) Not sure if we knew the possibility of seeing Ron and Hermione in the Chamber of Secrets, but I thought it was great to hear the report of the production sketch of them and the basilisk skeleton. :)
I saw that too :love: I'm betting that's where the kiss will take place!
meesha1971 August 12th, 2009, 9:43 pm Off topic, but I'm really liking Emma Watson's outfit. :D
Anyways, back on topic, thank you for posting that. I've always imagined them camping out in the woods, surrounded by trees all the time, but I'm glad they're taking another direction in the movie. It'd be a nice change of scenery, and making it in a burned out campsite doesn't take much out of the plot.
I think they're going to have various locations for camping. We've had reports and pictures showing them camping in wooded areas and what looks like a field. Makes sense that they would try to have some variety for the locations.
Ah, thank you for posting that!
In regards to the wedding, I'm REALLY excited for it, since it's such a happy, fun-filled event. I'm wondering if they're still going to make Harry in disguise as one of the Weasley relatives for the movie. Same goes for the Godric's Hollow scene; both Hermione and Harry are supposed to be in disguise, but I don't know if they're going to keep that in the movie. :shrug:
It's hard to say at this point, but I'm hoping they do keep Harry in disguise for those scenes. He's supposed to be in a lot of danger as "Undesirable Number 1" so it would make them all look really foolish if Harry is recognizable for those scenes.
Not sure, however, how I feel about them putting make-up on the Seven Potters. I thought for sure they'd just have Dan playing all of them. It would tire him out, but...I dunno. Just feel funny about that.
I think that will probably be used for the polyjuice sequence to show them transforming into Harry. There was a mention of photos showing the makeup they used on Rupert for the scene where Ron transforms into Reg Cattermole with polyjuice. They did various stages of makeup to show Ron at different stages of the transformation and that will be used for the CGI morphing sequence. Makes sense that they would do the same for the Seven Potters.
I saw that too :love: I'm betting that's where the kiss will take place!
I think that's very likely. I was wondering if they were going to actually show Ron and Hermione in the Room of Requirement instead of just having them tell Harry then went there. I'm glad they're going to actually show it and I think that will be a great place for them to have the kiss.
decarus August 12th, 2009, 9:52 pm I think the idea of the Basilisk skeleton sounds cool. I think that is where the Hermione/Ron kiss will take place as well.
LindaZhu August 12th, 2009, 10:09 pm I think the idea of the Basilisk skeleton sounds cool. I think that is where the Hermione/Ron kiss will take place as well.
OOOH i like that idea! very romantic, and i personally would like that a lot.
Sacred_Memories August 12th, 2009, 10:12 pm They should reveal where the split is.
Anyway, I would be devestated if they used Polyjuice Potion in Godric's Hollow. That would take away every single ounce of emotion.
LindaZhu August 12th, 2009, 10:22 pm They should reveal where the split is.
Anyway, I would be devestated if they used Polyjuice Potion in Godric's Hollow. That would take away every single ounce of emotion.
something tells me they won't, because it'll involve MORE casting for someone to play, like, a one-minute part.
MrSleepyHead August 12th, 2009, 10:27 pm It's hard to say at this point, but I'm hoping they do keep Harry in disguise for those scenes. He's supposed to be in a lot of danger as "Undesirable Number 1" so it would make them all look really foolish if Harry is recognizable for those scenes.
I thought you were finally converted (http://cosforums.com/showpost.php?p=5375155&postcount=404)to Harry being under the Invisibility Cloak during Godric's Hollow! ;)
I am very excited about this film after reading the set report (http://www.chrisandmaria.net/?p=108) by the couple that visited Leavesden Studios. I love the mention of the white peacock for (probably) Malfoy Manor, a spider that will be larger than the deceased Aragog (for the final battle?), Ravenclaw's bust with the diadem, and the Magic is Might statue. I hope such "small" details like this are going to be included throughout the film - and, so far, it sounds like they are.
The information about the wedding is also encouraging. It seems like it will be a great scene showing so many favorite characters all in one place, like the book. I especially like how it appears that even Krum will be included.
From this set report, I am most interested about the Room of Requirement scene with Draco and Blaise:
The first thing we saw was the Room of Requirement, similar to what we saw in Half Blood Prince. Stacks upon stacks of furniture, books, potions and whatnot (including several chess pieces from Philosopher’s Stone) were everywhere. Here we got to see a bit of filming that involved the stunt doubles for Tom Felton (Draco Malfoy) and Louis Cordice (Blaise Zabini). They were perched atop one of the stacks of furniture and rigged into a harness.
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Around the corner from the stunt doubles and through the gap between two stacks of stuff was Tom Felton and Louis Cordice. We got to watch the playback monitors for the scene they had just shot. One of the monitors shows the actors exchanging dialog, while the other was an overhead shot of them walking through the stacks.
The only scene where I can place this exchange is when the trio go into the Room of Requirement looking for the diadem. Will Crabbe and Goyle be replaced by Zabini? Or is this passage describing an entirely different scene?
meesha1971 August 12th, 2009, 10:32 pm They should reveal where the split is.
Anyway, I would be devestated if they used Polyjuice Potion in Godric's Hollow. That would take away every single ounce of emotion.
It's the opposite for me. It would be incredibly stupid for Harry to go around as himself in a public place - particularly Godric's Hollow because it was so predictable that he would go there at some point. He needs to be disguised so that he is completely unrecognizable or he will look like an idiot. Hermione is less significant - though she should at least have some kind of disguise in place. But Harry has to be disguised or that scene will not work for me at all. The emotion of that scene does not stem from Daniel Radcliffe's face being on screen - he's just an actor playing a role. The emotion stems from knowing that Harry is seeing his parents' graves for the first time. What Harry looks like is irrelevant to that, IMO.
At the very least, Harry should be hidden with the Invisibility cloak - though even using the cloak without a disguise is still rather risky since the Death Eaters are aware that he has one. The cloak doesn't hide footprints, block noise Harry might make, or prevent him from being solid and potentially bumping into things. Harry disguising himself so that he is completely unrecognizable is the most logical way for them to go about it.
I would compare Godric's Hollow to the final scene in Saving Private Ryan where the elder James Ryan is shown visiting Captain Miller's grave. The scene is very emotional and it doesn't make any difference that it is an old man looking down on the grave instead of the younger Matt Damon because you know that it is James Ryan.
I thought you were finally converted (http://cosforums.com/showpost.php?p=5375155&postcount=404)to Harry being under the Invisibility Cloak during Godric's Hollow! ;)
The Invisibility Cloak would be tolerable - I'd still prefer for Harry to be completely unrecognizable though. ;)
I am very excited about this film after reading the set report (http://www.chrisandmaria.net/?p=108) by the couple that visited Leavesden Studios. I love the mention of the white peacock for (probably) Malfoy Manor, a spider that will be larger than the deceased Aragog (for the final battle?), Ravenclaw's bust with the diadem, and the Magic is Might statue. I hope such "small" details like this are going to be included throughout the film - and, so far, it sounds like they are.
I love the attention to small details like that. Some things aren't even noticed in the final film, but I think they add to the film overall even if it's not obvious. Like all the children's drawings they put up at the Burrow - it's not something you focus on while watching, but it adds to the scenes overall because the set is more realistic as the Weasley's home.
The information about the wedding is also encouraging. It seems like it will be a great scene showing so many favorite characters all in one place, like the book. I especially like how it appears that even Krum will be included.
The wedding sounds like it will be really good. And it would appear that they will be keeping George losing his ear when Snape hits him with Sectumsempra as well.
From this set report, I am most interested about the Room of Requirement scene with Draco and Blaise:
The first thing we saw was the Room of Requirement, similar to what we saw in Half Blood Prince. Stacks upon stacks of furniture, books, potions and whatnot (including several chess pieces from Philosopher’s Stone) were everywhere. Here we got to see a bit of filming that involved the stunt doubles for Tom Felton (Draco Malfoy) and Louis Cordice (Blaise Zabini). They were perched atop one of the stacks of furniture and rigged into a harness.
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Around the corner from the stunt doubles and through the gap between two stacks of stuff was Tom Felton and Louis Cordice. We got to watch the playback monitors for the scene they had just shot. One of the monitors shows the actors exchanging dialog, while the other was an overhead shot of them walking through the stacks.
The only scene where I can place this exchange is when the trio go into the Room of Requirement looking for the diadem. Will Crabbe and Goyle be replaced by Zabini? Or is this passage describing an entirely different scene?
I believe that they've decided not to bring Crabbe back because of the actor's current legal problems. Instead, it will be Zabini and Goyle who accompany Malfoy to the Room of Requirement to try and capture Harry. It sounds like Malfoy will save Zabini and Goyle will die.
lcbaseball22 August 12th, 2009, 10:51 pm There is a new set report from DH floating around. I haven't finished reading it, but of interest, is the inclusion of a new scene where Harry and Hermione come upon a burnt out campsite with trailers burned because they were attacked by death eaters.
http://www.chrisandmaria.net/?p=108
This seems strange only because i always imagined them camping in the middle of no where such as in the photos we have of the one camp site.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/camping/camping6.jpg
Thanks for the link decarus! :)
I'll highlight the info I found intriguing:
From there, we went on to Grimmauld place. It had just been used as Baker Street in the new, Robert Downey Jr’s Sherlock Holmes film and was being repainted for Deathly Hallows
It's interesting to hear this set was used for another film, but I believe Sherlock Holmes is another WB film so it's not that odd. Good to hear they are repainting it for DH :lol:
From here, we drove past the Hogwarts courtyard that was being worked on and also the entrance to Malfoy Manor. It has a huge hedge (~15 feet tall) and two large, stone pillars flanking either side of the entrance. They apparently did one or two nights of shooting on this set. This set was used for the scene where the Snatchers take Harry and the others to Malfoy Manor. There was also mention of a white peacock at the animal wrangling section and this was probably there for the Malfoy Manor exterior. I hope they are keeping this much detail from the books!
Hmm, I wonder if this Hogwarts courtyard is some addition to be used in the battle. And neat to hear about Malfoy Manor and that they'd already done some shooting there, but I can't remember a white peakcock from the book :hmm:
Right across from this was another set, but not something we recognized from the books. It appeared to be a bunch of burned trailers / mobile homes. Apparently this is a scene where Harry and Hermione show up at a camp site only to see it’s been attacked by Death Eaters.
Not sure how I feel about this right now :shrug:
We turn the corner and right there in front and to our right was Privet Drive! They had been doing the seven Potter scenes there. From what we were told, it sounded as if they will use makeup on the actors to make them look like Dan, at least for some part of the scene. I would imagine a lot of digital work would also be done here, but that’s just a guess as well
Hmm, I too thought Dan would be used to replicate the 7 Potters as opposed to using makeup on the actors. I know this has been done for films before where 2 of the same character appears on screen (was it a Lindsey Lohan film? :hmm:), but I don't know if another 5 is any more difficult or not :lol: Have to wait and see how this turns out.
We got a very close and impressive look at Luna’s house. It looked like a stone base of a tower… just about 15 feet tall. Again, CGI would be used to complete the house. Rocks jutted up around the front yard. Growing up the front of the house was a tree, and the left side was covered with vines and bright orange plants. Our driver, who was extremely knowledgeable on what was going on, said these were the Dirigible Plums. They had recently filmed a fight scene here and the right side of the house was pitted with holes where Death Eater spells had hit the house (squib explosions). They were prepping the house again for a much bigger version of that fight, apparently. They were adding even more squibs for the new fight.
Sounds cool, but I'm confused by the mention of squibs. Isn't this someone of magical blood who can't perform magic? Why are they referring to the Death Eaters as such? :hmm: EDIT: Oh, I recall mention of "squibs" in 9/11 conspiracy theories, referring to explosions
The first thing we saw was the Room of Requirement, similar to what we saw in Half Blood Prince. Stacks upon stacks of furniture, books, potions and whatnot (including several chess pieces from Philosopher’s Stone) were everywhere. Here we got to see a bit of filming that involved the stunt doubles for Tom Felton (Draco Malfoy) and Louis Cordice (Blaise Zabini). They were perched atop one of the stacks of furniture and rigged into a harness.
When they cut, we slipped into the set and skirted around the edge. Around the corner from the stunt doubles and through the gap between two stacks of stuff was Tom Felton and Louis Cordice. We got to watch the playback monitors for the scene they had just shot. One of the monitors shows the actors exchanging dialog, while the other was an overhead shot of them walking through the stacks.
This sounds to me like confirmation of our suspicions that they are replacing Crabbe with Blaise due to the non-return of the actor who plays the former. I wonder where Goyle is though as there is no mention of him :hmm: I hope this scene doesn't disappoint. It felt really intense and action packed from what I read in the book. Can't wait to see the Fiendfyre! That should really be something, with the fire chasing them and morphing into all kinds of creatures :cool:
Just to the right of these guys, but not used in this scene, was Hagrid/Sirius’ flying motorbike mounted on a rig and lifted off the ground.
Ahh, as I suspected...this sounds like they did the flying bit of 7 Potters back at the studio using some sort of rig. :tu:
We went from here to another stage and saw Bathilda Bagshot’s house. They have done a body cast of that actress and made a snake skin. Take from that what you will.
Awesome! :cool:
Straight across, literally no more than 20 feet, was Shell Cottage! There was a conservatory attached to it, with shells covering the walls and ceiling of the actual house (like what we’ve seen previously on the beach). There was also a blue and white armchair sitting outside the house, and the grounds around the house were covered with hay colored grasses and sand. All of this was punched into and covering a thick layer of foam (ahh, movie magic).
Wow, so did they transport this set back to Leavesden and re-build it?
Hmm, this sounds like it was used for further exterior filming. I would have figured they'd do the interior stuff in the studio :hmm:
Hogsmeade Village was next. It was winter there. We were just looking at it when a group walked across the snow covered ground (which was really a sand like substance we later found in Maria’s shoes when we got home…. can you say souvenir?!) While signs said to stay off the snow, we were told it was OK to go through. We actually got to walk THROUGH HOGSMEADE!!!! Un-believable! I could have died. There were a few store names, but sadly we can’t remember them. One was a book shop that Maria thinks is mentioned in one of the books. As we came to the end of the village, there was an open section (open to accommodate cameras and shooting) of The Hog’s Head pub. Fantastic!!
I'm a bit confused by this. When the trio apparate to Hogsmeade is shouldn't be winter, but I presume they just haven't altered the set yet. I'm curious how much of the scene in the Hog's Head they'll keep.
A dead Dobby (blood on his clothes and sand still on his skin from use on the beach shoot. So sad to see this, as he was unbelievably life like and real)
I wonder if the blood will be red like humans or if they'll take the LotR approach like with the Orcs and color it to skirt around the rating issue.
An enormous Basilisk skeleton. Above it an artists’ sketch of the skeleton, in the Chamber, with Ron and Hermione standing next to it.
This seems like a pretty good indication we will actually cut away from Harry and SEE Ron and Hermione in the Chamber...as well as where the kiss might take place. I like the idea of not having the chamber journey offscreen as written in the book, but I'm undecided about the kiss, IF this is really where it'll take place. I really liked Harry's interjection where he says there is a war going on and it's not the time or place, so I'd be a shame to lose that.
Another Katie model that was repurposed for a Greyback scene in Deathly Hallows
Hmm, wasn't it Lavender that was attacked by Greyback in DH? You know, during the battle when Hermione saved her by stunning him as they were running down the grand staircase. Oh well, this should be a neat scene regardless.
Loads and loads of goblins. Apparently a big goblin scene was coming up to be shot
Gringtotts! This should be a pretty awesome scene. And it'll be cool to revisit this location for the first time since Sorcerer's Stone!
Pictures of Ron turning into Reg Cattermole. From the looks of this, they will actually be putting very realistic prosthetic makeup on Rupert. In the final stage makeup picture of him, you would not recognize him as Rupert
Sounds great! :tu:
Photos and sculptures of Dan’s hexed makeup where he’s hexed to hide his identity from the Snatchers. This looks amazing! The right side of his face is all lumpy and deformed. It’s hard to see Dan under this makeup
Same as above :lol:
The dead Aragog we saw in Half-Blood Prince. They were using it as a reference for a new, larger giant spider that was being carved for Deathly Hallows
Seems they will be including the acromantulas in the battle! I hope there is lots of other magical creatures involved too and they go all out!
The sculpted bust of Rowena Ravenclaw and the diadem perched atop her head. Stunningly beautiful detail!
Ahh, might this be a hint that they are keeping the scene Harry and Luna journey to Ravenclaw Tower?! As was mentioned a few pages back I believe, I really hope the bit where one of the Carrows (can't remember which, sorry :p) spits on McGonagall and Harry defends her.
The Magic is Might sculpture. Sculpted by the same artist that did the Rowena bust. Unbelievable! Enormous wizards stand atop a block platform that is being held up by a multitude of other people
Neat! If I recall correctly weren't the muggles in the book depicted as being naked? I wonder if that detail will be included in the sculpture...probably not, as it's kinda graphic :lol:
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but there's some more interesting information from HP4u.co.uk
http://hp4unews.blogspot.com/
Scrimgeour's scenes, including his speech about the current situation in the wizarding world:
Another entry:
More about Scrimgeour:
The motorbike chase:
The wedding:
A question to anyone who knows better than me :p Is this HP4u site reliable? This is my firsit time visiting the site and it seems to contain lots of exclusive info so I'm not sure if I can believe all of them (especially after the HBP Scoop fiasco :p).
Oooh, some more interesting info...thanks for posting! :)
As to it's reliability- yes, I'm pretty sure this site is legit. For instance, they where the first to report about the Millenium Bridge attack for HBP and they provided details and photos from a visit to the shooting of that particular scene. More trustworthy than Scoop at least :tu: :lol:
LumosSempra August 12th, 2009, 11:19 pm Hmm, I wonder if this Hogwarts courtyard is some addition to be used in the battle. And neat to hear about Malfoy Manor and that they'd already done some shooting there, but I can't remember a white peakcock from the book
It was in chapter 1 of DH when Snape and Yaxley are making their way down the driveway of the manor, there's a "pure-white peacock, strutting majestically along the top of the hedge." And Yaxley makes a snide remark about how Lucius "always did himself well."
lcbaseball22 August 12th, 2009, 11:24 pm It was in chapter 1 of DH when Snape and Yaxley are making their way down the driveway of the manor, there's a "pure-white peacock, strutting majestically along the top of the hedge." And Yaxley makes a snide remark about how Lucius "always did himself well."
Ah, I see. Thanks for pointing that out...I guess. :whistle: I haven't really read it enough to remember insignificant details like that :p :lol:
It's neat they are including these sorts of details in the film though, kinda like Ron making it snow in HBP, little nods to the fans :tu:
LordThingy August 12th, 2009, 11:48 pm It's the opposite for me. It would be incredibly stupid for Harry to go around as himself in a public place - particularly Godric's Hollow because it was so predictable that he would go there at some point. He needs to be disguised so that he is completely unrecognizable or he will look like an idiot. Hermione is less significant - though she should at least have some kind of disguise in place. But Harry has to be disguised or that scene will not work for me at all. The emotion of that scene does not stem from Daniel Radcliffe's face being on screen - he's just an actor playing a role. The emotion stems from knowing that Harry is seeing his parents' graves for the first time. What Harry looks like is irrelevant to that, IMO.
At the very least, Harry should be hidden with the Invisibility cloak - though even using the cloak without a disguise is still rather risky since the Death Eaters are aware that he has one. The cloak doesn't hide footprints, block noise Harry might make, or prevent him from being solid and potentially bumping into things. Harry disguising himself so that he is completely unrecognizable is the most logical way for them to go about it.
I would compare Godric's Hollow to the final scene in Saving Private Ryan where the elder James Ryan is shown visiting Captain Miller's grave. The scene is very emotional and it doesn't make any difference that it is an old man looking down on the grave instead of the younger Matt Damon because you know that it is James Ryan.
The Invisibility Cloak would be tolerable - I'd still prefer for Harry to be completely unrecognizable though. ;)
It's stupid for Harry to go into Godric's Hollow- disguised or not. You're right, Harry is Undesirable number 1, so why isn't he disguised the whole time he is in hiding? I highly doubt the audience will care about this. The invisibility cloak makes him completely invisible, that's enough of a disguise. Using Dan and Emma in this scene will be more cinematically pleasing. It is dangerous for them to go to Godric's Hollow, and i'm sure the audience would think that even if they had used the polyjuice potion. The invisibility cloak is fine. I don't think the idea of Harry crying at his parent's grave would be enough to get emotion out of the audience. We need to see Harry's face. In the book we're reading Harry's thoughts so it doesn't matter, but as we don't have access to his thoughts in the movies, we need to see his face in order to get an emotional pull from the scene. Not to mention I would find it incredibly dull to see some middle aged actors battling Nagini rather than Harry and Hermione... it would just take away from the scene. I'm fairly sure that Yates won't use polyjuice potion here. It isn't necessary.
Sacred_Memories August 12th, 2009, 11:50 pm ^ Exactly. Harry and Hermione in the invisibility cloak is just fine.
I'm going to love it when Hermione holds Harry's hand as he cries.
lovehedwig August 12th, 2009, 11:58 pm It's stupid for Harry to go into Godric's Hollow- disguised or not. You're right, Harry is Undesirable number 1, so why isn't he disguised the whole time he is in hiding? I highly doubt the audience will care about this. The invisibility cloak makes him completely invisible, that's enough of a disguise. Using Dan and Emma in this scene will be more cinematically pleasing. It is dangerous for them to go to Godric's Hollow, and i'm sure the audience would think that even if they had used the polyjuice potion. The invisibility cloak is fine. I don't think the idea of Harry crying at his parent's grave would be enough to get emotion out of the audience. We need to see Harry's face. In the book we're reading Harry's thoughts so it doesn't matter, but as we don't have access to his thoughts in the movies, we need to see his face in order to get an emotional pull from the scene. Not to mention I would find it incredibly dull to see some middle aged actors battling Nagini rather than Harry and Hermione... it would just take away from the scene. I'm fairly sure that Yates won't use polyjuice potion here. It isn't necessary.
I agree. Even though the danger he faces is extremely high while not being completely disguised, it just wouldn't be as emotional seeing a middle-aged man crying over his parents' graves than Harry himself. In the book, we know his thoughts and we know his emotions, and we don't have to see his face because we already know how he's feeling. But on the movie screen, it just wouldn't fit.
And it wouldn't be the first time the movies are changing things from the books. I think the Invisibility Cloak will be enough of a disguise for the movie. And I'd love to see the little Harry/Hermione friendship moment between them. That part was really a tear-jerker. :D
Now, this whole polyjuice potion thing is making me think about the Ministry adventure. All the trio take polyjuice potion and are disguised completely as other people. Have they cast Cattermole, Mafalda, and (his name is slipping form my mind) the scary, intimidating guy Harry is? Or are they planning on just keeping the trio with their own faces? I think I saw pictures from the set somewhere while they were filming the Ministry heist and it shows the trio completely undisguised. I'd be really bothered if they didn't take any disguise; I mean, the Ministry is basically a death sentence, especially for Harry.
I don't know. that's just what I think. :)
LumosSempra August 13th, 2009, 12:07 am Have they cast Cattermole, Mafalda, and (his name is slipping form my mind) the scary, intimidating guy Harry is? Or are they planning on just keeping the trio with their own faces?
I do believe they have been cast. Check out this pic: http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz20/chocolatesquid/Londonshoot28thJune163-1.jpg
That's supposed to be them. I find it highly unlikely that they would just stroll into the Ministry looking like themselves.
decarus August 13th, 2009, 12:27 am Now, this whole polyjuice potion thing is making me think about the Ministry adventure. All the trio take polyjuice potion and are disguised completely as other people. Have they cast Cattermole, Mafalda, and (his name is slipping form my mind) the scary, intimidating guy Harry is? Or are they planning on just keeping the trio with their own faces? I think I saw pictures from the set somewhere while they were filming the Ministry heist and it shows the trio completely undisguised. I'd be really bothered if they didn't take any disguise; I mean, the Ministry is basically a death sentence, especially for Harry. I don't know. that's just what I think. :)
There was video of Ron stunning Cattermole and then he and Harry carrying him into a side door. I am not sure if i can find a link, but i will look around.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/outside%20the%20ministry/triotransformed.jpg
Hermione, Harry, Ron.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/outside%20the%20ministry/triotransformed2.jpg
Harry.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/outside%20the%20ministry/getmathida2.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/outside%20the%20ministry/getmathida.jpg
Ron, Hermione (already polyjuiced). This is when they were filming them carrying Cattermole into the doorway.
AccioHP August 13th, 2009, 12:35 am Thanks for posting the set report!! Awesome info in there! Seems like they are really trying to keep this as close to the book as possible :)
decarus August 13th, 2009, 12:37 am Okay the link. It is Ron walking and then he bends over and Harry stuns Mafalda (not Cattermole) who collapses and Harry catches her and they pull her into the doorway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXMYrWmHQU0
There is also a great bit later on with showing the polyjuiced trio going down into the bathrooms. That's fun.
AccioHP August 13th, 2009, 12:37 am A terrifyingly realistic dead Dumbledore body. This took our breath away when we rounded the corner and saw it on the shelf. Again, something very emotional to see. It was scaled down smaller than lifesized, as it was created for a scene where Hagrid was to carry him. Apparently this wasn’t shot so the body wasn’t used
This really caught my attention. I wonder if they'll use this for when Voldemort breaks into his tomb?
Also this:
The shriveled up, fetus like Voldemort we saw cast into the cauldron in Goblet of Fire. CREEPY!!!
Maybe they'll use this for King's Cross?
After the tour, we went to the canteen to have lunch with our guide and the rest of the crew. While there, our heads were whipping left and right as we saw Rupert, James and Oliver (one of which had a bandage over his head and ear),
Seems like they're keeping the "holey ear" lol
Panduhbear August 13th, 2009, 1:14 am Okay the link. It is Ron walking and then he bends over and Harry stuns Mafalda (not Cattermole) who collapses and Harry catches her and they pull her into the doorway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXMYrWmHQU0
There is also a great bit later on with showing the polyjuiced trio going down into the bathrooms. That's fun.
This movie is going to be awesome! :D Thanks for the link!
lovehedwig August 13th, 2009, 1:25 am I do believe they have been cast. Check out this pic: http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz20/chocolatesquid/Londonshoot28thJune163-1.jpg
That's supposed to be them. I find it highly unlikely that they would just stroll into the Ministry looking like themselves.
Ah, thank you for posting that. :) Is Cattermole the one on the right? I can't tell who looks more intimidating. :lol:
There was video of Ron stunning Cattermole and then he and Harry carrying him into a side door. I am not sure if i can find a link, but i will look around.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/outside%20the%20ministry/triotransformed.jpg
Hermione, Harry, Ron.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/outside%20the%20ministry/triotransformed2.jpg
Harry.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/outside%20the%20ministry/getmathida2.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/outside%20the%20ministry/getmathida.jpg
Ron, Hermione (already polyjuiced). This is when they were filming them carrying Cattermole into the doorway.
Oh, thank you for posting these pictures! It looks really accurate to how I imagined it. I'm glad they're sticking true to the book; makes me even more stoked for the movie. :D
Okay the link. It is Ron walking and then he bends over and Harry stuns Mafalda (not Cattermole) who collapses and Harry catches her and they pull her into the doorway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXMYrWmHQU0
There is also a great bit later on with showing the polyjuiced trio going down into the bathrooms. That's fun.
The part where they sort of tackle her and "drag" them off looks fun. :lol:
Thanks again for posting the link. Ah, I wish I were that close to the set. It looks extremely fun.
Have they also cast the part of what Harry is supposed to be polyjuiced at the wedding? Or maybe they're just leaving that out...but how would that work? Okay, never mind. :lol:
LumosSempra August 13th, 2009, 1:30 am Ah, thank you for posting that. Is Cattermole the one on the right? I can't tell who looks more intimidating.
:lol: Don't worry, I had the same problem too when I first saw the pic! You're correct, Cattermole is the one on the right.
decarus August 13th, 2009, 1:38 am I don't think we know whether or not they will have Harry polyjuiced during the wedding. I think it unlikely, but some people have mentioned that Harry's suit doesn't quite look like it fits in some of the photos after they have disapparated from the wedding. I just think it is unlikely that they will have the trio polyjuiced for more then one scene per film.
The people who went to the set commented on seeing everyone sitting at lunch except Dan. If Dan didn't have to film that day, that may be proof that he isn't in the wedding. Though really he may just have been doing something else or they didn't notice him.
lovehedwig August 13th, 2009, 1:47 am :lol: Don't worry, I had the same problem too when I first saw the pic! You're correct, Cattermole is the one on the right.
:lol: thanks. And the one of the right just looks more...Catermoley. :D
And I think the woman playing Mafalda looks like the way I imagined her to look. Then again, I never gave much thought to Mafalda's appearance. But I hope she acts just as scared as Hermione was in the Ministry. :)
I don't think we know whether or not they will have Harry polyjuiced during the wedding. I think it unlikely, but some people have mentioned that Harry's suit doesn't quite look like it fits in some of the photos after they have disapparated from the wedding. I just think it is unlikely that they will have the trio polyjuiced for more then one scene per film.
The people who went to the set commented on seeing everyone sitting at lunch except Dan. If Dan didn't have to film that day, that may be proof that he isn't in the wedding. Though really he may just have been doing something else or they didn't notice him.
Yes, I think that, too. It'll be very easy for the film makers to just make it seem that he doesn't need to be disguised because everyone at the wedding is well trusted and it's well protected. And having him polyjuiced will involved casting yet another actor who'll make, maybe, just a 5 minute appearance.
And about Harry's suit, maybe they DID make him take on a disguise, which would be following the book.
Either way, I don't have a problem whether or not he's disguised or not. It doesn't take much out of the plot and the disguise didn't really do much for me in the book anyways. But then there are the conversations with both Victor Krum and Doge & Aunt Muriel, all three who talk freely about Harry since they think Harry's not there...
Wow... I think I'm thinking about the movie too much. :lol: I know they'll find a way to fit everything in correctly; I just hope it's an enjoyable film. :D
phoenix88 August 13th, 2009, 1:54 am This all looks so awesome!!! It really is exactly how I pictured it. Thanks for all the links everyone :)
ThaiHPFan August 13th, 2009, 4:25 am The only scene where I can place this exchange is when the trio go into the Room of Requirement looking for the diadem. Will Crabbe and Goyle be replaced by Zabini? Or is this passage describing an entirely different scene?
According to Snitchseeker, the actor who plays Goyle has confirmed that his character will die instead of Crabbe. Zabini is probably there just to fill the space.:lol:
meesha1971 August 13th, 2009, 5:03 am It's stupid for Harry to go into Godric's Hollow- disguised or not. You're right, Harry is Undesirable number 1, so why isn't he disguised the whole time he is in hiding? I highly doubt the audience will care about this. The invisibility cloak makes him completely invisible, that's enough of a disguise. Using Dan and Emma in this scene will be more cinematically pleasing. It is dangerous for them to go to Godric's Hollow, and i'm sure the audience would think that even if they had used the polyjuice potion. The invisibility cloak is fine. I don't think the idea of Harry crying at his parent's grave would be enough to get emotion out of the audience. We need to see Harry's face. In the book we're reading Harry's thoughts so it doesn't matter, but as we don't have access to his thoughts in the movies, we need to see his face in order to get an emotional pull from the scene. Not to mention I would find it incredibly dull to see some middle aged actors battling Nagini rather than Harry and Hermione... it would just take away from the scene. I'm fairly sure that Yates won't use polyjuice potion here. It isn't necessary.
We don't need to see Dan's face though - he's just an actor playing a role. Harry's face is whoever the actor is. As long as they make it clear that it is Harry, it doesn't matter who the actor is there. The emotion from the scene doesn't come from what they look like - it's the fact that Harry is seeing his parents' graves for the first time. Dan's face is irrelevant to that. As I said before, they did something similar in Saving Private Ryan and that didn't detract from the emotion of the scene at all. If anything, it made it even more emotional because the actor playing the older James Ryan was really good. And, really, Dan just hasn't shown the acting ability to pull this scene off - this is not a scene where they could cover his bad performance with slow motion and music to hide the fake crying/screaming like they did in OOTP and HBP.
The Invisibility cloak would be tolerable as long as Harry stays under it the entire time so he cannot be seen - though that would still leave us with Dan's performance to worry about. But I think it would make a lot more sense for Harry to be disguised so he is completely unrecognizable.
According to Snitchseeker, the actor who plays Goyle has confirmed that his character will die instead of Crabbe. Zabini is probably there just to fill the space.:lol:
My guess is they decided to switch it around so Goyle dies because he's been in the films from the beginning where Zabini was just introduced in HBP.
LordThingy August 13th, 2009, 8:46 am So, I just finished rereading DH, and I thought of something... wouldn't it be cool if Yates redeemed himself and through in the whole memory with Lily, James, and Snape from OotP and showed it along with the rest of the memories in Snape's Worst Memory? Harry watches it again when he is in the pensieve in DH, Yates could definitely use the scene he filmed from OotP and show the full thing along with the other memories. I think it'd be cool, and I'd definitely like to see it!
MoodysMagicEye August 13th, 2009, 10:24 am interesting rumor, I'm not sure whether to believe it or not.
http://www.universharrypotter.com/news-1618.html
Translated from French:
Emma Thompson. The who plays Trelawney had announced a few months ago she would not be part of the last film in the saga, preferring to concentrate on Nanny McPhee. Yet, the production team have convinced her to come to Leavesden Studios for one day to play the divination teacher.
JustMeWayne August 13th, 2009, 10:57 am interesting rumor, I'm not sure whether to believe it or not.
http://www.universharrypotter.com/news-1618.html
Translated from French:
Emma Thompson. The who plays Trelawney had announced a few months ago she would not be part of the last film in the saga, preferring to concentrate on Nanny McPhee. Yet, the production team have convinced her to come to Leavesden Studios for one day to play the divination teacher.
well, itll be fun to have the cast reunited for the last movie. she'll have a small part, maybe a few seconds of screen time, but itll be nice all the same.
if im not wrong, she throw a crystal ball at greyback and smashed a window, allowing acromantulas into the great hall. :lol:
meesha1971 August 13th, 2009, 11:23 am interesting rumor, I'm not sure whether to believe it or not.
http://www.universharrypotter.com/news-1618.html
Translated from French:
Emma Thompson. The who plays Trelawney had announced a few months ago she would not be part of the last film in the saga, preferring to concentrate on Nanny McPhee. Yet, the production team have convinced her to come to Leavesden Studios for one day to play the divination teacher.
Well, that is certainly feasible since Harry only sees Trelawney once in DH when she is lobbing crystal balls at the Death Eaters. It wouldn't take more than one day of filming for them to film her part. And they could use a double for any shots of the battle where Trelawney might be seen in the background. It would be really cool if Emma Thompson agreed to that. Hopefully, someone will comment on that rumor to confirm or deny it soon.
MoodysMagicEye August 13th, 2009, 12:20 pm Well, that is certainly feasible since Harry only sees Trelawney once in DH when she is lobbing crystal balls at the Death Eaters. It wouldn't take more than one day of filming for them to film her part. And they could use a double for any shots of the battle where Trelawney might be seen in the background. It would be really cool if Emma Thompson agreed to that. Hopefully, someone will comment on that rumor to confirm or deny it soon.
I agree it does seem feasible, but then we have heard in past characters in photos etc. having to turn up for 2 or 3 days, if you take into consideration costume fittings and so on. On the other hand, they would probably be willing to go out of there way to accommodate a famous actor and/or more prominant character so as you say hopefully someone will comment on that rumor so we get some kind of confirmation either way.
meesha1971 August 13th, 2009, 12:28 pm It does seem feasible, but then we have heard in past characters in photos etc. having to turn up for 2 or 3 days, if you take into consideration costume fittings and so on. But on the other hand, they would probably willing to go out of there way to accommodate a famous actor and more prominant character so as you say Hopefully, someone will comment on that rumor so we get some kind of confirmation either way.
We've also heard that they've been willing to accommodate other actor's schedules and commitments to other projects in regards to things like costume fittings. Rhys Ifans talked about how they sent people to the set of the film he was working on to do fittings for his costume for Xenophilius Lovegood in DH. So it is feasible they could do that with Emma Thompson as well so she would only be required to actually be present on the set for one day.
It will be interesting to see if anyone confirms or denies this rumor.
Sesquipedalian August 13th, 2009, 1:50 pm We don't need to see Dan's face though - he's just an actor playing a role. Harry's face is whoever the actor is. As long as they make it clear that it is Harry, it doesn't matter who the actor is there. The emotion from the scene doesn't come from what they look like - it's the fact that Harry is seeing his parents' graves for the first time. Dan's face is irrelevant to that. As I said before, they did something similar in Saving Private Ryan and that didn't detract from the emotion of the scene at all. If anything, it made it even more emotional because the actor playing the older James Ryan was really good. And, really, Dan just hasn't shown the acting ability to pull this scene off - this is not a scene where they could cover his bad performance with slow motion and music to hide the fake crying/screaming like they did in OOTP and HBP.
The Invisibility cloak would be tolerable as long as Harry stays under it the entire time so he cannot be seen - though that would still leave us with Dan's performance to worry about. But I think it would make a lot more sense for Harry to be disguised so he is completely unrecognizable.
True, to a diehard "Potter" fan who obsesses over every little detail in the novels (as even I do, on occasions), it would not matter if it was Daniel Radcliffe or an older actor playing a disguised Harry. However, think as if you are an audience member, watching the first part of the Deathly Hallows films, who has only seen the previous movies, or one that is only seeing the film due to a younger relative having dragged them there: Would the scene stir your emotions as much if, say, someone resembling Tom Hanks was on-screen, instead of Daniel Radcliffe? In my opinion, for the general public, seeing a middle-aged man who bears little to no resemblance to the actor they are used to seeing as Harry could be almost ineffective, and the audience will simply wonder as to why they could not have used Dan in this scene. Sometimes, when books receive cinematic adaptations, faithfulness to the source material must be sacrificed in order to create a film that suits the general public, and not simply the fans. In addition, the only time I've felt that Dan's emotions were poor was when he was crying before the "He was their friend!" line; the line itself was delivered well, and his emotions in the subsequent films were acceptable, in my opinion.
Regarding the Invisibility Cloak, I do not believe that it would work, as well; if they did it with the Cloak, the majority of the scene would have to be close-ups of Harry under the Cloak, or close-ups of the Potters' grave through the cloak. Cinematically, that would simply not work: there must be some wide-angles in this scene, showing Harry, Hermione and the gravestones, as well as their surroundings, in a single shot, or it will resemble nothing more than a badly-filmed television movie (or the Order of the Phoenix film:p).
My guess is they decided to switch it around so Goyle dies because he's been in the films from the beginning where Zabini was just introduced in HBP.
This, however, I agree with; though he has had about one line of the dialogue in the entire series ("Watch where you're going, Longbottom", from the Order of the Phoenix film), Goyle has still been here since the beginning, and his death would be more moving than that of a character who has only been in one film, and whose only dialogue in that film involved snorting in response to one of Draco's comments, as was the case with Blaise.
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