Way Ahead for Deathly Hallows Movie(s) [Archive] - Page 8

lcbaseball22

December 3rd, 2009, 1:43 am

SnitchSeeker (http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/david-yates-confirms-two-harry-nude-scenes-deathly-hallows-69427/) reports that David Yates has confirmed 2 nude scenes for Dan Radcliffe in Deathly Hallows, Kings Cross and Horcrux/Harry.
Also that Frank Dillane may return (http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/exclusive-frank-dillane-reprise-tom-riddle-role-deathly-hallows-69424/) to the role of Tom Riddle for Deathly Hallows.

Thanks for posting that :)

It's nice to get a little bit of clarification on this. I think his comments really do seem to imply Emma will be naked too...but perhaps that's just my hopeful wishes speaking :lol: It's just they can't really "create something that feels very sexy and very intriguing" if it's only Harry...

Regardless, the bit where Yates said "we're still thinking about how we present it" to me implies they are trying to figure out how to do it creatively to give the illusion of them being naked and not actually show anything that would up the rating. But I guess we can't say for sure

As for the thing about Harry and Hermione dancing together. I dunno, I don't really like it. :whistle: But then I tend to think of partner dancing as something romantic and sensual...so perhaps it's just me. I can't see a reason why they need to include this, but I'll wait 'til we hear more.

Shlesha

December 3rd, 2009, 1:51 am

I posted this on Snitchseeker on the dance/nude scene topic, I may as well copy/paste my views on it here:

I am really angered. But, I will admit that I hardly have a right to be as I do only know the bare bones of the situation. I do not know what is happening in detail. However, I feel as if I have a right to be annoyed by this - I'm beyond annoyed. Steve Kloves has screwed up again. Big time. And I actually liked David Yates because when he directed Order of the Phoenix, he actually brought canon back to the movies. He had the characters with the right personalities. And I respected David Yates. I do still respect him, but after hearing this, I must say, that it has slightly reduced. Maybe even more than slightly. I will just have to see how things go.

First I will start with the nude scenes. This is going to be PG-13 no doubt. It will not be anything lower (too intense), nor will it be anything higher (loss of revenue, and we know how much that means to Warner Brothers). I am 99% sure that Daniel Radcliffe's erm... parts will not be shown in the movie. It will just be above the waist, and below the thigh shots. That is not too bad. I do remember that he appears naked once in the books. Once in the King's Cross chapter. I also remember that he is not naked, nor is he supposed to be, in the chapter of the Silver Doe. In that scene he has simply stripped down so the clothes do not weigh him down. He has stripped down to his underwear - not nothingness. D. Yates talks about sexiness of the scene. Sexiness? I must ask, what is sexy about - never mind. There are two possibilities about the nakedness of this scene. One, it is where Harry strips down to prevent being weighed down by his clothes. Two, it can be horcrux Harry - which I very much doubt. I doubt it because it logically makes more sense in option one. Option two - I'll get to that right now.

Okay, so according to Yates, horcrux Harry/Hermione are "kissing and embracing". In the books their lips met. The words: their lips met. And then Ron finished the horcrux off. There was no embracing, there was no kiss. There was no sexy stuff either. It was not hot, nor was it supposed to be. It was meant to be evil, and a heartbreak for Ron who already had insecurities to begin with. He did not need more of the letdown, and always being put in the shadows of his siblings, and his best friends really would be a big pain would it not? So the Harry/Hermione kiss is not supposed to be hot at all.

And now, finally, a very widely debated topic on websites everywhere. I'm not kidding, I've seen it literally everywhere: the Harry and Hermione dance. Before I say anything, I will tell you that I am trying to speak from as neutral a point of view as possible, as I am indeed, a Ron and Hermione shipper. No, I do not know the details of this, so I will be considerate when I speak of this. And this is merely an opinion of mine as well, and I would appreciate if you thought about what I am going to say.

The dance could be located anywhere in the movie. Nobody knows, and it is not mentioned. A lot of you assume that it is after Ron leaves. If it is when Ron leaves then that does mess up the personalities of the characters a lot. Due to the fact that Harry did not do much to comfort Hermione in the books, if he suddenly decides to dance with her in the movies, he will not be as shy or scared as he appeared to be in the books. He did not provide much comfort to her then, so it would be pretty mucked up. Not to mention the fact that Ron is now gone, and Hermione is heartbroken and thinking that he might never show up again. She might be thinking that she lost him for good. It would not be a very sensible area to add in, and I would really mind this.

Another location possible for this particular scene could be the wedding. Bill and Fleur's wedding. I think that it would be more sensible and much more possible that it would be added here. Ron and Hermione (hopefully) have a dance in this scene, and Hermione and Harry could have a dance here as well. I would not mind this too much as they are purely platonic friends, and dancing would not be unusual here. I personally believe that the scene would be added here. Here they could also tell each other whatever secret they want to.

Speaking of secrets, I have a few speculations. If they have secrets, then they would have no reason not to tell Ron. Harry's best friend is Ron. As much as he considers Hermione his best friend, he considers Ron his much closer best friend. So, if what he tells Hermione, he cannot tell Ron, then it probably is about Ginny. Hermione, if she cannot tell Ron this secret, then it probably is about Ron as well. If it is some next random secret then I will be very annoyed. Yes, I will be because Ron is as much a best friend to them as they are with each other. So, yes, I believe that their secrets are indeed about Ron and Ginny.

In conclusion, I must say that I do not believe that this will be too bad, provided that they put in the proper scenes in the proper areas. I believe that we should not jump to conclusions. I must say that I was really angry when I started to write this, but I am loosening up as I am concluding. Writing this made me realize that there is so many possibilities, and we should not be closed minded about this. Perhaps it will add up to be good. Oh, and do not forget to consider the books and the movies completely separate things, otherwise you will definitely be disappointed. That is what I have chosen to do, and there is definitely less disappointment now. And now I'll conclude my 1, 062 word speculation.

ArryGrotter

December 3rd, 2009, 1:54 am

I think the dance will be during the wedding so Hermione can tell Harry of the plans to leave, since they don't have much time to talk due to Molly giving the jobs.

lcbaseball22

December 3rd, 2009, 2:19 am

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I thought Yates comments (the "very sexy" part coupled with "to bring about a reaction" ) made it more clear it was the actual Horcrux images naked...either one or both :whistle: And also the "but we're still thinking about how we present it" part...well that woudn't be a problem if we're talking physical Harry. Cause he's supposed to be wearing underwear so showing him "undressed" wouldn't be much different than Jacob in New Moon. Now, they most certainly can't show Dan's privates and still keep it PG-13 but I wonder if they could show Emma topless and get away with saying it's "artistic" like Titanic did :lol: :hmm: Afterall, it's not real, they are just like ghostly images...

I think the dance will be during the wedding so Hermione can tell Harry of the plans to leave, since they don't have much time to talk due to Molly giving the jobs.

Hmm, that would be a really good way of doing it actually. They could use the dancing as an excuse to converse :tu: I wouldn't mind that

BTW, let me clarify I am not a shipper of any couple...I just worry the scene will give the wrong impression and continue to foster thoughts.

We all know how angry H/Hr shippers got...so I don't think it's a good idea to include scenes that give a new breed (meaning those that only watch the movies) of H/Hr shippers false hope. There have already been way too many kinda intimate moments between these 2 if you ask me. It was good they included the bit in HBP though where Harry told Dumbledore they were just friends...might have put a stop to this. :whistle:

decarus

December 3rd, 2009, 2:28 am

I think it makes a lot more sense that they dance during the wedding and not after Ron left. Why would they dance in a tent? I don't think that makes sense. It also says that they share secrets with each other which makes me think that it happens when other people are around and they are sharing a secret which also makes me think it is during the wedding.

You are right. We don't know yet for certain because it doesn't state it, but i think it makes the most sense.
Speaking of secrets, I have a few speculations. If they have secrets, then they would have no reason not to tell Ron. Harry's best friend is Ron. As much as he considers Hermione his best friend, he considers Ron his much closer best friend. So, if what he tells Hermione, he cannot tell Ron, then it probably is about Ginny. Hermione, if she cannot tell Ron this secret, then it probably is about Ron as well. If it is some next random secret then I will be very annoyed. Yes, I will be because Ron is as much a best friend to them as they are with each other. So, yes, I believe that their secrets are indeed about Ron and Ginny.
I agree that most likely the secret is about Ginny and Ron because that is the only thing that they would keep from Ron. I think i disagree that Harry is closer best friends with Ron then Hermione, but we don't have to go into that.

I think the dance will be during the wedding so Hermione can tell Harry of the plans to leave, since they don't have much time to talk due to Molly giving the jobs.
I am not sure that the plans to leave are a secret and the quote from Yates says 'it's actually very tender, very nice and respectful, and they also reveal some secrets about each other while dancing'. I am not sure if i would consider a moment where they talk about their plans to leave as tender.

PS. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I thought Yates comments (the "to bring about a reaction" part coupled with "very sexy") made it more clear it was the actual Horcrux images naked...either one or both :whistle: And also the "but we're still thinking about how we present it" part...well that woudn't be a problem if we're talking physical Harry. Cause he's supposed to be wearing underwear and so showing him "naked" wouldn't be much different than Jacob in New Moon. Now, they most certainly can't show Dan's privates and still keep it PG-13 but I wonder if they could show Emma topless and get away with saying it's "artistic" like Titanic did :lol: :hmm: Afterall, it's not real, they are just like ghostly images...
If they touch it is not artistic like Titanic. They never even touch each other in Titanic during that scene. I still think it is very unlikely that they are going to show any actual nudity in the film. I agree that it seems like he is talking about RiddleHarry.

I just worry the scene will give the wrong impression and continue to foster thoughts.

We all know how angry H/Hr shippers got...so I don't think it's a good idea to include scenes that give a new breed (meaning those that only watch the movies) of H/Hr shippers false hope. There have already been way too many kinda intimate moments between these 2 if you ask me. It was good they included the bit in HBP though where Harry told Dumbledore they were just friends...might have put a stop to this. :whistle:
I think that they are trying to foster those thoughts though so that it makes sense that Ron is still worried that Harry and Hermione may like each other. That is sort of why i think they had the moment at the end of HBP where Hermione and Harry were talking on the tower. I really think that if you see everything the way Ron did in HBP you could see why he thought Hermione liked Harry.

phoenix88

December 3rd, 2009, 2:36 am

[QUOTE=decarus;5463200]I think it makes a lot more sense that they dance during the wedding and not after Ron left. Why would they dance in a tent? I don't think that makes sense. It also says that they share secrets with each other which makes me think that it happens when other people are around and they are sharing a secret which also makes me think it is during the wedding.

Yes, my guess is that Harry and Hermione dance at the wedding. Yates seems to like adding on extra scenes. It bothered me with HBP because it didn't make sense to me to add on scenes when they couldn't even fit in what was already in the book. With DH though, they do have a lot of time so maybe this will be a nice moment between the two. Yates does seem to like the Harry and Hermione moments i.e. the last scene in HBP

Fury

December 3rd, 2009, 2:41 am

Great picture!! I am so sure all these pictures they're releasing will be in the Deathly Hallows trailer/sneak peak/whatever it is. Good teasers usually do that. Hope to see more!

decarus

December 3rd, 2009, 2:41 am

This makes me wonder if the sort of iffy set report that talked about Hermione dancing with someone why Ron watches. I wonder if that unknown someone was Harry or if Hermione is dancing with everyone but Ron. I hope not. We just don't know enough to jump to those conclusions and i am still unsure about that set report.

lcbaseball22

December 3rd, 2009, 2:43 am

I think that they are trying to foster those thoughts though so that it makes sense that Ron is still worried that Harry and Hermione may like each other. That is sort of why i think they had the moment at the end of HBP where Hermione and Harry were talking on the tower. I really think that if you see everything the way Ron did in HBP you could see why he thought Hermione liked Harry.

Hmm, good point. Yeah, I suppose this could be another instance of them thinking they have to beat stuff into the viewers brains. :relax:

decarus

December 3rd, 2009, 2:52 am

I was wondering if the bring back the kid that was Voldemort in HBP, what scene would he be in? I don't remember any young Voldemort scenes. I wonder if they will have him in a photo or possibly show more of the memories that Dumbledore collected though i think that very unlikely.

lcbaseball22

December 3rd, 2009, 2:58 am

If they touch it is not artistic like Titanic. They never even touch each other in Titanic during that scene. I still think it is very unlikely that they are going to show any actual nudity in the film. I agree that it seems like he is talking about RiddleHarry.

You're probably right. I just imagine this as being a quite unique and "artistic" scene with the CGI and all. And I thought maybe they could use this and/or the fantasy element as an excuse to be allowed to go a little farther than other PG-13 films are allowed. Plus, I recall the filmmakers having said before that the ratings are more lenient with Potter...but I suppose this was just referring to violence allowance

Hmm, I'm trying to think of examples of scenes in PG-13 films where 2 characters are "embracing" and the shots imply nudity but no naughty bits are actually shown :hmm: I was talking to another member online and he suggested they may use the SFX to cover up parts.

Like meesha was saying they could use the fog to like obscure his groin in the King's Cross scene. Do you guys invision some sort of mist pouring out of the Horcrux locket or anything? Or do you think the air around them will be clear of particulates or anything of the sort? :whistle:

It think it would help the atmosphere and mood of that scene if it was foggy or something...but I can't recall how it is described in the book

Fury

December 3rd, 2009, 3:05 am

You're probably right. I just imagine this as being a quite unique and "artistic" scene with the CGI and all. And I thought maybe they could use this and/or the fantasy element as an excuse to be allowed to go a little farther than other PG-13 films are allowed. Plus, I recall the filmmakers having said before that the ratings are more lenient with Potter...but I suppose this was just referring to violence allowance

Hmm, I'm trying to think of examples of scenes in PG-13 films where 2 characters are "embracing" and the shots imply nudity but no naughty bits are actually shown :hmm: I was talking to another member online and he suggested they may use the SFX to cover up parts.

Like meesha was saying they could use the fog to like obscure his groin in the King's Cross scene. Do you guys invision some sort of mist pouring out of the Horcrux locket or anything? Or do you think the air around them will be clear of particulates or anything of the sort? :whistle:

It think it would help the atmosphere of that scene if it was foggy or something...but I can't recall how it is described in the book

That's actually a pretty good idea.

But I have a question here. Do we know that is the part of the scene they are implying nudity for? I thought since they were only talking about Dan, then it would be the lake. Wouldn't that be the most obvious? Where did people get the idea that the kiss would be?

decarus

December 3rd, 2009, 3:11 am

Well just the quote from the interview seems to suggest that it is during the horcrux part and not during the getting the sword part.
Well, Dan (Radcliffe) has appeared nude in the past, but there are a couple of scenes in the new film in which he will undress, but we're still thinking about how we present it.

It's a fascinating scene in which Harry and Ron (Rupert Grint) are trying to kill a Horcrux (a magical creature). It tries to defend itself and creates an image of Voldemort's soul, that shows has a series of images where Harry and Hermione (Emma Watson) are kissing and embracing. And we will create something that feels very sexy and very intriguing to bring about reaction in Rupert (who is in love with Hermione).

PS. Also in the quote from the other day it was during the horcrux part though we are still uncertain.
In one scene, “a horcrux [carrying a piece of Voldemort’s soul] defends itself by producing nightmarish visions, and one shows Hermione and Harry embracing and kissing,” explained Yates. “It’s something intriguing and sensual for Rupert to react to, and Dan will be bare for that.”

lcbaseball22

December 3rd, 2009, 3:12 am

That's actually a pretty good idea.

But I have a question here. Do we know that is the part of the scene they are implying nudity for? I thought since they were only talking about Dan, then it would be the lake. Wouldn't that be the most obvious? Where did people get the idea that the kiss would be?

Well as I said on the last page, I don't know for sure but I have a much stronger impression now that is what Yates refers to. If it's not, then I guess the comments about the kiss are detached from the rest of it. So I think the nudity and kiss are linked. The lake doesn't make much sense to me cause Harry is in his underwear so it should be a non-issue. Plus, it would do nothing to contribute to emotions Ron displays ;)

Fury

December 3rd, 2009, 3:14 am

Well just the quote from the interview seems to suggest that it is during the horcrux part and not during the getting the sword part.

Well, that does seem convincing...

Unless the person who was interviewed made a mistake, and the "nude scene" was the scene right before that... I don't know. I still think the lake would be the more obvious part. And depending how murky it is, the nudity wouldn't matter too much.

Well as I said on the last page, I don't know for sure but a much stronger impression that now that is what Yates is referring to. If it's not, then I guess the comments about the kiss are detached from the rest of it. So I think the nudity and kiss are linked. The lake doesn't make much sense to me cause Harry is in his underwear so it should be a non-issue. Plus, it'd do nothing to contribute to emotions Ron displays

Also true. Out of everything, the emotions Ron displays is the only thing that is taking me away from my theory. Hmm... well, if this is in fact true, that is going to be very interesting. Just what are they expecting from this? If that doesn't make it borderline "R" rated, I dunno what will! This is definitely more than a "brief sensuality" rating.

lcbaseball22

December 3rd, 2009, 3:14 am

Well just the quote from the interview seems to suggest that it is during the horcrux part and not during the getting the sword part.

PS. Also in the quote from the other day it was during the horcrux part though we are still uncertain.

Right, decarus just said the same thing pretty much...though more concisely :lol:

And I think it makes a lot of sense, the most sense for the Horcrux. Just think how furious Ron would be if he saw them embracing naked

decarus

December 3rd, 2009, 3:20 am

Well, that does seem convincing...

Unless the person who was interviewed made a mistake, and the "nude scene" was the scene right before that... I don't know. I still think the lake would be the more obvious part. And depending how murky it is, the nudity wouldn't matter too much.

I think it seems a lot more odd for Harry to jump in the lake naked especially if it is really cold like it was in the book. I completely agree that we don't really know for certain what Yates means, but it seems like he is referring to the Riddle Harry and not Real Harry because of him talking about Ron's reaction.

Right, decarus just said the same thing pretty much...though more concisely :lol:

Sorry, being concise is my disease.

lcbaseball22

December 3rd, 2009, 3:23 am

I think it seems a lot more odd for Harry to jump in the lake naked especially if it is really cold like it was in the book. I completely agree that we don't really know for certain what Yates means, but it seems like he is referring to the Riddle Harry and not Real Harry because of him talking about Ron's reaction.

Sorry, being concise is my disease.

Nah, you're fine. :)

I agree. That was my part of my thought process too :agree: It just doesn't make much sense to jump into a freezing lake butt naked... :lol:

I'm leaning toward Horcrux kiss, but don't you hate how filmmakers are always so vague we never can quite tell for sure what's meant? :grumble:

Fury

December 3rd, 2009, 3:25 am

Nah, you're fine. :)

Don't you hate how the filmmakers are always so vague we never can quite tell for sure what's meant? :grumble: I'm leaning toward Horcrux kiss though...

Yeah, me too, as much as it worries me.

I mean, I may be no Trelawney. But I predict some outrage from this if it is exactly what we think it is.

decarus

December 3rd, 2009, 3:29 am

I'm leaning toward Horcrux kiss, but don't you hate how filmmakers are always so vague we never can quite tell for sure what's meant? :grumble:
Yes, i hate it. Why can they just be more concise? I mean.

Yeah, me too, as much as it worries me.

I mean, I may be no Trelawney. But I predict some outrage from this if it is exactly what we think it is.

Honestly, i don't really like the idea of them being naked just because it seems so unnecessary. I still don't believe that they are going to actually show anything.

MasterOfDeath

December 3rd, 2009, 3:30 am

decarus

December 3rd, 2009, 3:35 am

Harry is going to be with Hermione for the entire movie. I wish it was Ginny that Harry was dancing with at the wedding. They have such little time together and they really need to make the most of it...

I agree they should have Harry and Ginny dance since they have so little time together. They haven't developed their relationship sufficiently and that would be a nice moment.

Fury

December 3rd, 2009, 3:35 am

I suddenly realized why they are focusing a lot on Harry/Hermione. Well, at the first part anyway. We know that Harry and Hermione dance at the wedding. We know Ron watches them. I think they are just trying to strengthen that storyline. I think the first half of the movie is focusing more on that friendship and that struggle. If that "ghostly" kiss is near the end of the first half of the movie, it would be a good reason for it to happen. I mean, a lot of the movie will be focusing on Ron's anger and him ultimately leaving then coming back near the end.

boushh

December 3rd, 2009, 3:37 am

I'm just wondering why they are focusing so much on Harry and Hermione's friendship to the cost of other important relationships like Harry and Ginny...

Harry is going to be with Hermione for the entire movie. I wish it was Ginny that Harry was dancing with at the wedding. They have such little time together and they really need to make the most of it...

I guess this is the one bad thing about having Kloves back...he loves his Hermione. :lol:

Well one of the big emotional climaxes in the movie is going to be Ron confronting those insecurities that the horcrux brings forth. Showing Ron watching Harry and Hermione dancing and looking like he's feeling like he might not have a chance with Hermione after all would work very well to set up the horcrux moment. IMHO.

CandyCane23049

December 3rd, 2009, 3:38 am

We don't much of anything. They could be dancing with each to pep each other up. We just don't know till we get more info.

lcbaseball22

December 3rd, 2009, 3:38 am

Yeah, me too, as much as it worries me.

I mean, I may be no Trelawney. But I predict some outrage from this if it is exactly what we think it is.

I wouldn't expect too much. "Sex sells" and as evidenced by the audience demographics the ages of the viewers is increasing with each film

Here, I'll quote a couple of Wimsey's posts from the box office thread that should make what I mean more clear-

....audience surveys have shown that most HP viewers have been adults since Prisoner, and the median ages of the prior two films was around 17. The "kids" grew up 5 years ago at least!

Gray (from boxofficemojo) notes some interesting demographics. The increasing age trend continues: by PoA, over 50% of the audience was 18+, but now over 60% is 18+.

MasterOfDeath

December 3rd, 2009, 3:40 am

True, I was thinking that as well. I just hope they don't put too much emphasis on the relationships again. It was fine for HBP but now I'm totally over the sex, drugs and rock and roll thing. :lol: Bring on death, darkness and naked Dan! :p

Fury

December 3rd, 2009, 3:46 am

I wouldn't expect too much. "Sex sells" and as evidenced by the audience demographics the ages of the viewers is increasing with each film

Here, I'll quote a couple of Wimsey's posts from the box office thread that should make what I mean more clear-

Yeah, but haven't the movies been seen as "Family friendly"... even the so-called "sex drugs and rock n roll" of HBP wasn't too bad... I didn't see too much of that. Just a simple romantic comedy mixed in a Harry Potter storyline.

lcbaseball22

December 3rd, 2009, 3:49 am

Yeah, but haven't the movies been seen as "Family friendly"... even the so-called "sex drugs and rock n roll" of HBP wasn't too bad... I didn't see too much of that. Just a simple romantic comedy turned fantasy.

Yes, unfortunately they have billed as such. It seems the filmmakers don't realize who their real audience is nowdays...it's teens and adults

Most of the readers grew up with HP and are now in their 20's, like myself. The "kids" really are almost an insignificant demographic now.

However, while you could argue the book warrants an R rating (and adding a nude scene most certainly would further this! :lol:) I do suspect they'll try to keep their "family friendly" image. Doesn't make any sense to me though, cause so few kids are in the audience anymore... :shrug:

decarus

December 3rd, 2009, 4:01 am

I do think they are still trying to keep the 13-17 year old audience and they can't see it if it is rated R which i think there is no chance of happening. I do agree that most people who see it will be older then that, but then again, most people are older then that.

PS. I also updated the All-inclusive DH List (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=122710).

lcbaseball22

December 3rd, 2009, 4:11 am

I do think they are still trying to keep the 13-17 year old audience and they can't see it if it is rated R which i think there is no chance of happening. I do agree that most people who see it will be older then that, but then again, most people are older then that.

True, except I'd bet an R rating in the United States would not stop a teenager from seeing this film :p The problem would possibly be with other countries, because if I'm not mistaken some you can't even go with a parent if under age rating...but then they are also more lenient elsewhere when it comes to sexual content. What they'd be more concerned with is the blood bath that occurs over the course of the story

I'm still curious how they will handle the really gory scenes, such as Snape's death :whistle: That's a rated R scene...they'll have to film creatively

EDIT:

I'm not sure if there is anything worth noting (I haven't listened to 'em myself yet) but I haven't seen this news story posted yet...

http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/videos-david-heyman-potter-cast-talk-deathly-hallows-filming-more-set-69432/

Dedalus Diggle

December 3rd, 2009, 4:49 am

I'm still curious how they will handle the really gory scenes, such as Snape's death :whistle: That's a rated R scene...they'll have to film creatively

We already have a Nagini-attacks-Arthur scene that passed muster - why would this one be worse?

lcbaseball22

December 3rd, 2009, 4:54 am

We already have a Nagini-attacks-Arthur scene that passed muster - why would this one be worse?

Quite different...he didn't have his jugular torn out :elaugh: Snape bled much more profusely. The scene is reminiscent of stuff from Anaconda

I heard some suggest in the past that they film this scene as like a shadow on the wall similar to Fawke's poking out the basilisk's eyes in CoS...but I think that would be such a cop-out. I'd hate if they skirted around the rating like that. Film it as described in the book, please

Jonny Boy

December 3rd, 2009, 5:14 am

I think there is two reasons there building up the Harry/ Hermione non-platonic relationship stuff. First, I think Kloves is a shipper of them so he wants to put as much in as he can get away with. Second of all, he can excuse it by saying that a love triangle will add suspense for the people who haven't read the books. It kind of cheapens the movies in my opinion but if it makes money...

Also I don't think it makes much sense for Harry to be nude in the locket scene. First of all, he doesn't need to take his boxers off to get the locket. Second, its freezing cold, he is not going to wait around for Ron to kill the locket before putting his clothes back on. Third, I don't think Ron would be affected emotionally by a naked Harry watching him kill the Horcrux. Therefore, I assume RiddleHarry will be the naked one, although probably with nothing showing.

lcbaseball22

December 3rd, 2009, 5:28 am

So I was just looking over the DH List (great work btw, Decarus and 9th Wonder...you've carried the torch from our HBP List admireably :tu:)

I can't say I ever recall hearing about this leaked Call Sheet. Did you guys discuss this in the thread? :hmm: Perhaps I missed it...I was slacking

And on that note, when do you think someone will leak bits of the script this time? If I've heard right, Phoenix123 hasn't been fired yet... :lol:

decarus

December 3rd, 2009, 5:38 am

I can't remember if we discussed the call sheet (http://www.getbracknell.co.uk/news/g/2053678_harry_potter_location_uncovered_in_brackne ll) in here. I would think that we did, but it has been awhile. There was a lot of interesting information on it though.

It mentions a few scenes with Harry dreaming, a scene where the trio are questioned by the snatchers, and it mentions dance rehearsals. There aren't a lot of details, but it is always interesting to hear about scenes.

I never noticed that it said 'Capture scene' on the map. It looks like there were five different places they were shooting at Swinley Forest.

PS. I don't think i added the scene with the trio and greyback and scabior either. So that is now added to the list though they were filming scenes that could be in either film some will be while they are running and when they are captured and some are while they are being question before they are taken to malfoy manor.

PSS. I also noticed the mention of James O'Dee (Stunt Death Eater - Hogsmeade) costume fitting. This suggest that they will arrive through hogsmeade and that there will be death eaters there. I wonder if that will be another action scene.

ThaiHPFan

December 3rd, 2009, 8:49 am

I think it was quite clear (from Yates interview) that the one who will appear naked during the locket scene will be the Riddle!Harry (and possibly Hermione too). And of course they wouldn't show Radcliffe's whole package to the audiences. I'm willing to bet anything that this will be a PG-13 scene at most. BTW Riddle's Harry and Hermione will probably appear as smokey/unclear figures anyway so that's easy for them to hide all the inappropriate stuff.

thefirestorm

December 3rd, 2009, 12:23 pm

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but the second official still from Deathly Hallows has been released!

http://i50.tinypic.com/1535kxd.jpg

This one has me really, really excited!
It looks like Grimmauld place, maybe even Sirius's room?

Fury

December 3rd, 2009, 12:27 pm

Not sure if this has been posted yet, but the second official still from Deathly Hallows has been released!

http://http://www.snitchseeker.com/gallery/albums/userpics/13923/ukiemovies-764869828-1259773759.jpg

This one has me really, really excited!
It looks like Grimmauld place, maybe even Sirius's room?

Yeah it was posted on the previous page, I think. It could very well be Sirius' room, given the expression on Harry's face. And that would be the spot where they realize who R.A.B is. The strange part about it, is that looks like right when they arrive at the house (given the fact that he has his wand out, for security purposes). If that is right, then they wouldn't waste much time to find who R.A.B is. Meaning they would enter the house and Harry would find out immediately.

decarus

December 3rd, 2009, 1:09 pm

I have long suggested the possibility that the trio would talk to Xenophilius Lovegood, the snatchers would then attack chasing them from the house, the trio would then be chased through the forest by the snatchers and eventually captured and taken to Malfoy Manor. There would be no days between these two events and i realized last night that we have a little bit of proof of this idea.

In this photo we get our first look at Xenophilius Lovegood with Harry and Ron sitting in front of him. I believe this to be at the Lovegood's home what with the Erumpent horn and gears and what may be Quibblers behind Xenophilius. Notice Harry is wearing his dark jacket and Ron his red plaid jacket.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/lovegoods/xenophiliuslovegood001.jpg

Next, we have the photos directly after malfoy manor where the trio plus Griphook and Dobby apparate to the beach near shell cottage. Hermione still has the cut on her neck and Dobby dies on the beach of which we have a lot of photos and some shaky footage of. Notice that again Harry is wearing his dark jacket with what we can see is a lighter blue shirt and Ron is wearing his red plaid jacket with a red shirt.

The trio is also wearing the same outfit when they bury Dobby that same day.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/apparation%20to%20beach/beach5.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/apparation%20to%20beach/necktrio.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/dobbys%20bruial/body2.jpg

This means that they are wearing the same clothes at the Xenophilius Lovegood scene that they are wearing at Malfoy Manor and when they arrive at Shell Cottage and when they later bury Dobby. This is proof of the idea that those scenes are all one big day.

I don't accept that they may just be wearing the same clothes. We have seen the trio in multiple scenes on multiple days of shooting and they are always wearing different outfits.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/hermioneun4.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/wedding%20after%20piccadilly%20circus/totaaf7.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/piccadilly%20circus%20after%20cafe%20attack/aftercafe3.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/outside%20the%20ministry/rhministry.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/camping/ronandhermione003.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/camping/loch2.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/camping/Camping1.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/silver%20doe/silverdoe2.jpg

This would mean that the final reveal of the film would be Xenophilius telling them what the deathly hallows are. This would require that they move up the next chapter in the tent where Harry realizes that he has two of the three hallows and Voldemort is searching for the third. That would all happen at Xenaphilius' house and the trio would then be attacked and chased from the house by the snatchers/death eaters.

I am still hoping that Harry will see into Voldemort's mind during this chase scene and the film will end with the trio being captured and Harry seeing in his mind Voldemort gain the elder wand. I really think that is the best ending they can have all things considered.

JustMeWayne

December 3rd, 2009, 2:00 pm

Noldus

December 3rd, 2009, 3:36 pm

PSS. There is an article (http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/david-yates-confirms-two-harry-nude-scenes-deathly-hallows-69427/) mentioning Harry and Hermione dancing. It says on the site that they think it is after Ron leaves, but i think it makes a lot more sense to happen at the wedding.

:grumble: Once again David Yates astonish with his gifts. Gifts that Rowling can only dream of possessing. How grand it must be to be the director.

JR637

December 3rd, 2009, 4:01 pm

:grumble: Once again David Yates astonish with his gifts. Gifts that Rowling can only dream of possession. How grand it must be to be the director.

Ouch! But I agree, he is soooo a Harry/Hermoine shipper and he is turning the movies into his own fanfic LOL :p

-JR

Sacred_Memories

December 3rd, 2009, 6:48 pm

The Harry/Hermione dance will 99.99% be when they are alone in the forest and Yates described it as a scene that didn't imply romance, but one that truly showed their friendship.

I think it's a lovely scene and I can't wait to see it.

decarus

December 3rd, 2009, 7:03 pm

omg that is really observant of you!
I do believe this is so, but the discussion can still take place inbetween Lovegood and Snatchers. The moment they escape from Xeno's house (DE still attack them) they might start to have a heated and short discussion where Harry accidentally says Voldy's name. This way, they will still be wearing the same clothes, and no radio :p

That is true. The discussion could take place in the woods right after the trio escapes from the snatchers/death eaters at Xenophilius' house. Either way i think that it is all one long day and not two separate scenes.

In the book there is a scene at the Lovegood's in like January where the trio are almost picked up by the death eaters. Then that evening after the trio returns to the tent they discuss the fact that Harry thinks he has two hallows and that Voldemort is searching for the third. It is like March when Ron finally dials up Potterwatch and Harry then says Voldemort's name and the snatchers come. They are clearly two separate scenes with weeks even months in between in the book.

The Harry/Hermione dance will 99.99% be when they are alone in the forest and Yates described it as a scene that didn't imply romance, but one that truly showed their friendship.

Why do you think the scene will take place in the forest instead of at the wedding? I wish that we had a translation of all of that article instead of just a few quotes.

FleurDeLaPointe

December 3rd, 2009, 7:18 pm

:grumble: Once again David Yates astonish with his gifts. Gifts that Rowling can only dream of possession. How grand it must be to be the director.
Yeah I agree. Yates is extremely talented in handling the HP series as a film series, and manages to bring it well together which IMHO better than JKR...that is if she was directing the film. Being a director must be so fun!

MasterOfDeath

December 3rd, 2009, 7:22 pm

Yeah I agree. Yates is extremely talented in handling the HP series as a film series, and manages to bring it well together which IMHO better than JKR...that is if she was directing the film. Being a director must be so fun!

Really? I thought you hated Yates and HBP in particular? :hmm:

decarus

December 3rd, 2009, 7:24 pm

I think i am feeling sarcasm.

MasterOfDeath

December 3rd, 2009, 7:29 pm

I think i am feeling sarcasm.

I know Noldus was being sarcastic in his original post but I think Fleur's reply took his post at face-value on purpose. Making fun of his sarcasm, if you will. :relax:

Getting back on topic, if you're right, Decarus and the death eaters (or the snatchers) do chase the trio from the Lovegood house all the way into the forest where they are captured, I hope they manage to get Harry's obsession with the Hallows into the scene where they are revealed somehow...Harry's obsession with conquering death through the hallows is a major aspect of Harry's development in this movie and plays to the thematic 'hard verses easy choices' motif.

Bscorp

December 3rd, 2009, 8:14 pm

:grumble: Once again David Yates astonish with his gifts. Gifts that Rowling can only dream of possession. How grand it must be to be the director.

LOL! I LOVE IT. I can just hear Snape's sneering voice reading this line. :tu:

I honestly believe/hope the reporter got confused.

Here's my final theory: The dancing scene will be during the wedding and that will be the "sweet moment" that Yates is referring too. It may be that Hermione and Harry are discussing Ron and how she feels about him, but Ron misinterprets the whole scene from a distance and gets jealous. Later in the forest, Ron's jealousy will be used as an explanation of why he leaves the two.

Later, the Horcrux scene might begin with Danial naked as he comes our of the lake. But Real Harry will not be naked anywhere near Hermione. The Horcrux, on the other hand, will use Ron's memory and jealousy over the dancing scene at the wedding- then distort that memory into a vision it to work against his jealousy. In this way, it's not really that far from the text. And it falls in line with how Movie!Snape Described Voldemort's power in OOP, to "create visions to torture people into madness..."

MasterOfDeath

December 3rd, 2009, 8:37 pm

LOL! I LOVE IT. I can just hear Snape's sneering voice reading this line. :tu:

I honestly believe/hope the reporter got confused.

Here's my final theory: The dancing scene will be during the wedding and that will be the "sweet moment" that Yates is referring too. It may be that Hermione and Harry are discussing Ron and how she feels about him, but Ron misinterprets the whole scene from a distance and gets jealous. Later in the forest, Ron's jealousy will be used as an explanation of why he leaves the two.

Later, the Horcrux scene might begin with Danial naked as he comes our of the lake. But Real Harry will not be naked anywhere near Hermione. The Horcrux, on the other hand, will use Ron's memory and jealousy over the dancing scene at the wedding- then distort that memory into a vision it to work against his jealousy. In this way, it's not really that far from the text. And it falls in line with how Movie!Snape Described Voldemort's power in OOP, to "create visions to torture people into madness..."

This is a succinct and likely theory, Bscorp! :tu:

decarus

December 3rd, 2009, 9:37 pm

I did another update on chapter 20-22 of the All-inclusive DH list (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=122710) just moving some stuff around and added a few things. I am going to leave out the theory that it is all one scene until we have more confirmation. We just don't know where the split will be and what will be in what film.

I am sort of thinking they will split right as they are captured and not after they question them.

Jack5555

December 3rd, 2009, 9:46 pm

decarus

December 3rd, 2009, 10:19 pm

Ohhh! Thank you for doing this!!

No problem and thank 9th Wonder who does the second half of the chapters.

harry5678

December 4th, 2009, 1:12 am

Where is the leaked 7 Potters picture I keep hearing about!?!?!

It's really small, leaked but OFFICIAL (as in not a SET image), however it got taken down like an hour after I saved it. So, i don't think it a good idea to repost it. PM if you'd like to see it

UPDATE: Hey guys, i've been browsing through lots of foreign Hp gallries, (which is where I came across the leaked 7 potters pic) and I found this. Im not sure if this is OFFICIAL or not, it looks pretty official, but I dont know where thiswould've been taken, looks like a theater, but anyway it looks to be a logo for DH Part One or Part Two:
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8922/pottersorrento.jpg

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 1:37 am

It's really small, leaked but OFFICIAL (as in not a SET image), however it got taken down like an hour after I saved it. So, i don't think it a good idea to repost it. PM if you'd like to see it

UPDATE: Hey guys, i've been browsing through lots of foreign Hp gallries, (which is where I came across the leaked 7 potters pic) and I found this. Im not sure if this is OFFICIAL or not, it looks pretty official, but I dont know where thiswould've been taken, looks like a theater, but anyway it looks to be a logo for DH Part One or Part Two:
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8922/pottersorrento.jpg

Wow, that does look like a theater... could that really be a trailer? Or perhaps it looks like a theater, but might be someone's house and they found a way to see the trailer/sneak peak?

MasterOfDeath

December 4th, 2009, 2:07 am

Maybe the sneak peak is a very early trailer...I hope! If it's just a bunch of on-set interviews, I'll be very disappointed.

lcbaseball22

December 4th, 2009, 2:11 am

Hmm, that's intriguing... :hmm:

Beatifically

December 4th, 2009, 2:40 am

Footage from the Deathly Hallows set!

s09lqfSU2tQ

Keep in mind, however, that it's . . . four seconds long. :lol:

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 2:44 am

Footage from the Deathly Hallows set!

s09lqfSU2tQ

Keep in mind, however, that it's . . . four seconds long. :lol:

Four seconds long... 3 scenes though.

1. Wedding dance, looks like Ron and... someone else. Or it might be Bill and Fleur?
ETA: It's Bill and Fleur. Haha, kinda fuzzy. Second view, I thought it was a twin! :lol:

2. Trio camping.

3. Trio running in the snow... or maybe just Harry and Hermione at Godric's Hollow?]
ETA: That is definitely the trio. But that might not be snow... Fog? Maybe?

Beatifically

December 4th, 2009, 2:46 am

Four seconds long... 3 scenes though.

1. Wedding dance, looks like Ron and... someone else. Or it might be Bill and Fleur?

2. Trio camping.

3. Trio running in the snow... or maybe just Harry and Hermione at Godric's Hollow?

It looks like Bill and Fleur to me. I can see Clemence Poesy.

Also, I dunno if it's Godric's Hollow. Aren't there three people in that clip? :shrug:

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 2:49 am

It looks like Bill and Fleur to me. I can see Clemence Poesy.

Also, I dunno if it's Godric's Hollow. Aren't there three people in that clip? :shrug:

Yeah that was guesses from the first view. I edited my post after watching it a few more times. Which was easy... seeing it was 4 seconds!

MasterOfDeath

December 4th, 2009, 2:53 am

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 2:54 am

Four seconds long... 3 scenes though.

1. Wedding dance, looks like Ron and... someone else. Or it might be Bill and Fleur?
ETA: It's Bill and Fleur. Haha, kinda fuzzy. Second view, I thought it was a twin! :lol:

2. Trio camping.

3. Trio running in the snow... or maybe just Harry and Hermione at Godric's Hollow?]
ETA: That is definitely the trio. But that might not be snow... Fog? Maybe?

That was awesome. It is only five seconds and i keep watching it over and over again.

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 2:55 am

OMG, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING THAT!!! :rockon:

Yep, I see Bill and Fleur dancing!

If you look at the foggy scene, you can see wanted posters. I think this is the trio under polyjuice potion going through diagon alley to rob gringotts!!

The second scene looks like the burrow...check out the weeds. The same ones from the burrow attack in HBP.

Wow, didn't even think of the pre-Gringrott's scene, but wouldn't Griphook be there? and Helena instead of Emma?

And the second part. Never thought about the Burrow, but those weeds do look familiar.

MasterOfDeath

December 4th, 2009, 2:57 am

Wow, didn't even think of the pre-Gringrott's scene, but wouldn't Griphook be there? and Helena instead of Emma?

And the second part. Never thought about the Burrow, but those weeds do look familiar.

Well, Ron looks the way he does in the picture of Hermione/Bellatrix transforming him at shell cottage. And we can't really see Emma's face..it kinda looks like Helena. Also, aren't Griphook and Harry under the cloak? Maybe the third person is the death eater they meet on the way there and who accompanies them to the bank?

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 3:00 am

Well, Ron looks the way he does in the picture of Hermione/Bellatrix transforming him at shell cottage. And we can't really see Emma's face..it kinda looks like Helena. Also, isn't Griphook and Harry under the cloak? Maybe the third person is the death eater they meet on the way there and who accompanies them to the bank?

Yeah... I'll have to look at it again... maybe try to pause it at the right moment. If Griphook and Harry were under the cloak, then yeah Dan wouldn't be seen there.

MasterOfDeath

December 4th, 2009, 3:01 am

Then again, they are running around a corner...why would they have to run if they were disguised as death eaters?

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 3:01 am

Why would there be fog in the bank scene. It is during the day and that looks like Emma and Emma isn't in that scene Helena is Hermione in the bank scene.

Maybe it is when they enter hogsmeade?

MasterOfDeath

December 4th, 2009, 3:04 am

Well, I thought everywhere is foggy now since the dementers are breeding? And didn't they head to gringotts at the crack of dawn?

But yeah, it could be Hogsmeade too! Maybe they are running into Aberforth's pub. Good thinking. :tu:

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 3:08 am

Does Harry have something in his hand when they are leaning against the bale of hay? I agree i think that is the Burrow. Maybe they are discussing their plans for leaving.

Wait i think i was seeing the microphone, but it does look like he has his wand in his hand.

PS. I was just thinking in town trio all dressed normal, night out, foggy, running. There aren't that many night scenes that are in town.

lcbaseball22

December 4th, 2009, 3:08 am

Cool, vid...but why is it only 4 seconds? I mean there is clearly more to it... :whistle: Does this mean we should look to ET for more soon? :cool:

MasterOfDeath

December 4th, 2009, 3:10 am

Does Harry have something in his hand when they are leaning against the bale of hay. I agree i think that is the Burrow. Maybe they are discussing their plans for leaving.

Wait i think i was seeing the microphone, but it does look like he has his wand in his hand.

Could this possibly be outside Xeno Lovegood's house? Remember how we are thinking the trio are chased out of the house in the film and don't apparate away as in the book? Remember the Lovegoods are supposed to live in the same general area as the burrow..

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 3:12 am

Maybe it is when they enter hogsmeade?

Now that you say that... I bet that is exactly what that scene is! When they are running from the Death Eaters to the Hog's Head!

ETA: Haha, actually, as I posted that, I realized what it was. Remember there was a scene where they run away from Dementors when trying to get food or something? There would be fog around if there was dementors.

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 3:14 am

Is there wanted posters on the wall in the foggy shot at the end? I can't make it out exactly, but they could possibly be them. That would also suggest Hogsmeade. Do you think they are wanted posters of Harry?

PS. It is really hard to tell.

lcbaseball22

December 4th, 2009, 3:19 am

I've watched a few more times and I gotta say the atmosphere of the last scene looks awesome! :cool: And yes, I think they're WANTED posters

The wedding looks great too. Can anyone confirm that fan set report from the brief shots we see now? (ie the colors of dresses mentioned)

JR637

December 4th, 2009, 3:23 am

Footage from the Deathly Hallows set!

s09lqfSU2tQ

Keep in mind, however, that it's . . . four seconds long. :lol:

Well Bill, Fleur, and Mr & Mrs Weasley can be seen clearly...I also think I could see Fred or George in the background...anyone else see anyone??

-JR

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 3:26 am

It was mentioned that Fleur's dress had black lace on it like it does in the video and that Bill's jacket was a deep claret velvet jacket which is a really dark red i think. His jacket looks black to me so i am unsure. There could be some sort of hue to the jacket, but the video isn't of good enough quality to tell.

It doesn't say what Molly is wearing or the twins or Arthur.

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 3:27 am

Well Bill, Fleur, and Mr & Mrs Weasley can be seen clearly...I also think I could see Fred or George in the background...anyone else see anyone??

-JR

I see a blondie that looks a lot like Luna. On the right side, behind Mr. Weasley's hands when he is clapping.

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 3:29 am

I should just quote what it says about Fleur's dress:
Fleur (played by French actress Clemence Poesy) was radiant in a sleeveless cream dress that rolled off her like velvet waves onto the floor beneath her. On the front of the dress, embroidered in black lace were the images of two phoenixes which are just stunning and the reverse of the dress is equally as wonderful.

This person should have been more concise or say if you don't remember exactly. The dress is sleaveless and cream with black lace on it.

lcbaseball22

December 4th, 2009, 3:31 am

It was mentioned that Fleur's dress had black lace on it like it does in the video and that Bill's jacket was a deep claret velvet jacket which is a really dark red i think. His jacket looks black to me so i am unsure.

It doesn't say what Molly is wearing or the twins or Arthur.

Yeah, it's really hard to tell colors. The only things clearly visable are the white feathers or whatever around the bottom of Fluer's dress and then Molly's dress, which looks a pale green or sorts. The vid just isn't good enough quality to make out much else, like even colorwise....

I should just quote what it says about Fleur's dress:

Hmm, that does to seem to be what I see...I guess :hmm:

I dunno, I never really questioned the validity of the set report to begin with. I was just wondering if we could confirm anything now. :shrug:

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 3:37 am

I just questioned it because it was written like a story and not like a set report. The thing is HP4U is usually good on their information.

I realized today that the photos of the creatures on the wall are similar to a creature on the wall of the photo with xenophilius with his hands by his face. To the right of him is a creature that is very similar to the ones in the photo on the set report.

lcbaseball22

December 4th, 2009, 3:40 am

I just questioned it because it was written like a story and not like a set report. The thing is HP4U is usually good on their information.

Right, well it is good question stuff I think...especially after all the mis-leading info with HBP. For instance, who remembers SCOOP? :lol: :grumble:

Oh, and good catch with the Xeno thing. I hadn't noticed that. Well, I'm pretty sure it's legit then. I think it was just written a bit funny because it was not necessarily someone who had read the books. Like others noted she didn't know some names of people and stuff...

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 3:47 am

Yeah, i sort of cut out some of the story telling and tried to just leave the facts. The Xeno photo also made me think it was legit. I just noticed that today.

Yeah she wrote that luna wrote the quibblers with and s and she wrote they are at the burrows with an s. There were some weird things like that. I always question news accept footage or photos and i am very glad that this person was able to get a set report even if it was written differently.

All the news about the snatcher chase scene and how it was written made me think it was one big long scene and now realizing that they are all wearing the same clothes is sort of enough proof for me.

PS. I hope we get a better version of this video.

PSS. Is rita skeeter at the wedding? I just keep watching it over and over again. There is a very blonde women with what looks like curly hair, but she isn't dressed crazy like rita.

LordThingy

December 4th, 2009, 5:04 am

dang, who knew a 4 second clip of practically nothing would get me so excited? i really can't wait for DH, this is going to be a brilliant film :D

i love the way the foggy scene looks.

CandyCane23049

December 4th, 2009, 5:14 am

Well so far that's the best 4 seconds of my life. :)

thefirestorm

December 4th, 2009, 8:38 am

This is posted as the first "possible" logo on snitchseeker.
All this news has me really, really excited!

http://i47.tinypic.com/t8aqsx.jpg

HPFanNZ

December 4th, 2009, 8:46 am

This is posted as the first "possible" logo on snitchseeker.
All this news has me really, really excited!

http://i47.tinypic.com/t8aqsx.jpg

"Harry Potter and the Relics of Death"

It looks fantastic! I'm so looking forward to see the English one.

KJRiddle

December 4th, 2009, 10:10 am

There's a small theory I have regarding the third scene of the 4 Minutes First Look at the Deathly Hallows, the scene where we see Harry, Ron and Hermione sneaking through a snowy village. This is what I think:

Some time ago (I think it was in the deleted set report) I read that there was also the set of Hogsmeade in the Leavesden Studio. It will ofcourse be used at the point where they get saved by Aberforth. But the remarkable thing was, that it was snowed under. That's weird, right? Because they visit Hogsmeade in spring/summer, not in the winter: no snow.

I think Yates might have added a scene where they try to sneak in Hogwarts grounds! It would explain the fact that there is a scene where Harry, Hermione ánd Ron visit a town in the winter (that doesn't happen in the book, unless Ron is with Harry and Hermione at Godric's Hollow) and the fact that they'll use a snowy version of the Hogsmeade set!

Btw, look at the awesome wanted posters of the Trio in that third scene! ;)

Jack5555

December 4th, 2009, 11:51 am

"Harry Potter and the Relics of Death"

It looks fantastic! I'm so looking forward to see the English one.
The English one has been airing on the HBP Blu Ray commercial.

And... OMG! How long is it until a trailer now? I loved seeing Bill and Fleur dance! I can also picture the song "The Weasley Stomp" from HBP playing there :)

Oh, and they do look like wanted posters. Maybe first Harry, then Hermione, then Ron I think.
http://i50.tinypic.com/2cr8u3o.jpg

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 12:57 pm

Some time ago (I think it was in the deleted set report) I read that there was also the set of Hogsmeade in the Leavesden Studio. It will ofcourse be used at the point where they get saved by Aberforth. But the remarkable thing was, that it was snowed under. That's weird, right? Because they visit Hogsmeade in spring/summer, not in the winter: no snow.

I think Yates might have added a scene where they try to sneak in Hogwarts grounds! It would explain the fact that there is a scene where Harry, Hermione ánd Ron visit a town in the winter (that doesn't happen in the book, unless Ron is with Harry and Hermione at Godric's Hollow) and the fact that they'll use a snowy version of the Hogsmeade set!

Btw, look at the awesome wanted posters of the Trio in that third scene! ;)

Don't you think it is fog though and not snow? Fog from the dementors breading. I agree though, i thought Hogsmeade. Do you think Ron his a similar outfit as from those photos of him looking at the lake? It is so dark it is hard to tell, but his shape is similar like he has a bulky coat.

I do think they will change their clothes in between the scene at Gringotts and going to Hogwarts for the final battle. Hermione and Ron won't wear the black robes they are wearing for the bank scene for the rest of the film. They will also be wet if it is like the book, so it would make sense to change their clothes.

PS. Jack5555, where did you get the screencap? The ones i am seeing aren't quite as good.

KJRiddle

December 4th, 2009, 1:19 pm

Don't you think it is fog though and not snow? Fog from the dementors breading. I agree though, i thought Hogsmeade. Do you think Ron his a similar outfit as from those photos of him looking at the lake? It is so dark it is hard to tell, but his shape is similar like he has a bulky coat.

I do think they will change their clothes in between the scene at Gringotts and going to Hogwarts for the final battle. Hermione and Ron won't wear the black robes they are wearing for the bank scene for the rest of the film. They will also be wet if it is like the book, so it would make sense to change their clothes.

PS. Jack5555, where did you get the screencap? The ones i am seeing aren't quite as good.

You can see a small strip of snow on the ridge ;) And, the ground is all white, I think you'd see if they were walking on the street.

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 1:45 pm

I don't know i am still not convinced it is snow. I guess it is possible. There is something white to the right of the camera by the posters. I still think it is fog.

mjhaners

December 4th, 2009, 2:42 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdFjsaBErgc

New 2-3 sec DH scene!

first scene: Ron before Ministry Heist (I think)
second scene: Harry and Hermionie in the grave,Godric's Hallow

They're not under the cloak!

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 2:53 pm

Oh wow! It's actually scenes from the actual movie, not behind the scene stuff! Awesome!

Wow, I can already tell the Godric's Hollow scene will be heartbreaking.

And we can already see there isn't a blue tinting or anything. The Cinematography will be amazing, just like in HBP :D

ETA: OMG OMG OMG. Totally freaking out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXT0aZ-NC3g

DH Sneak Peak from HBP Blu Ray! OMG!

JoAdams

December 4th, 2009, 3:30 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXT0aZ-NC3g

The first trailer has been leaked.

Enjoy

Well the quality is terrible. Too much light. :p
But the Godric's Hollow and Scrimgeour and Hermione-with-bloody-hands and running in London scenes seem cool.
I don't like the forest chase, though. Is this supposed to be the climax of Part 1? Completely anti-climactic.I know it's just 5-6 seconds but meh...:P

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 3:33 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXT0aZ-NC3g

The first trailer has been leaked.
Enjoy

Yep, just watched it! Oh my gosh. It's amazing! I'm going to watch it a few more times then comment on it more. I'm kinda thinking this will be taken down quite quickly!

jallen

December 4th, 2009, 3:33 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXT0aZ-NC3g

The first trailer has been leaked.

Enjoy

That's not so much a trailer as a sneak peek on the HBP DVD.
Still, that's really exciting.

mjhaners

December 4th, 2009, 3:40 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXT0aZ-NC3g

OMG! the sneak peek in the DVD leaked! OMG!
I want a better quality one!

Didn't know it was posted already. Sorry.

So excited..

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 3:46 pm

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Well the quality is terrible. Too much light. :p
But the Godric's Hollow and Scrimgeour and Hermione-with-bloody-hands and running in London scenes seem cool.
I don't like the forest chase, though. Is this supposed to be the climax of Part 1? Completely anti-climactic.I know it's just 5-6 seconds but meh...:P

Yeah there are already a few people on IMDB who dislike the Forest chase scene. I don't know. It might be better in the movie. Then again, it might just be like the HBP version of the "Flight of the Prince", and be a little disappointing.

The one part that really confused me... Harry on the ground and Hermione's hands bloody... could Harry be the one Splinched instead of Ron?

ETA: No, just watched it again. Ron is splinched, Harry is assisting him, and Hermione is putting up the protection spells!

JoAdams

December 4th, 2009, 4:05 pm

Yeah.

I hate the Forest chase scene. The camera work seems so amateur and too shaky. I mean, is this supposed to be the climax of Part One? No thanks.

The Flight of the Prince was short but has beautiful cinematography. Exceptional. This is...ew.

CandyCane23049

December 4th, 2009, 4:09 pm

I can't believe we have to wait so long. :( I hope when I go to the movies soon that I will see a trailer for it.

mjhaners

December 4th, 2009, 4:17 pm

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 4:19 pm

Guys, that forest chase scene is just a few seconds. Let's just pass judgement once we've seen the particular scene already. Besides the quality of the vid isn't that good so it's hard to get the feel of it.

Yeah, I was just thinking of that myself. Once we get a much better quality version, I think we'll see more of that forest chase, and how it really looks.

Man, oh, man, can't wait till there are screenshots of all this. Would love a lot of those! If I could get a good quality screenshot of that scene with Hermione in the foreground, with Harry in the back helping Ron, I would be so happy!

One question. Does anyone know what Harry is holding, sitting up against that tree? Is that the locket?

mjhaners

December 4th, 2009, 4:27 pm

One question. Does anyone know what Harry is holding, sitting up against that tree? Is that the locket?

Maybe, but it doesn't look like a locket at all.

Love these lines:
[The one] who posses them all, gets to make oneself immortal.

If it's true you really don't stand a chance. (I love this line)

Anyone know who's the person with all the camera flashes around him? Looks like an old man. I don't know who.

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 4:30 pm

Maybe, but it doesn't look like a locket at all.

Love these lines:
[The one] who posses them all, gets to make oneself immortal.

If it's true you really don't stand a chance. (I love this line)

Anyone know who's the person with all the camera flashes around him? Looks like an old man. I don't know who.

It's Scrimgeour... when you see his face, you can tell it's Bill Nighy.

Yeah, I didn't think it looked like a locket either. It sorta, kinda, looks like that little bag Hagrid gives Harry for his birthday.

I love those lines too! :D

When I first saw the trailer, seeing Griphook gave me chills! We haven't seen him since the first movie. They are definitely pulling out all the stops on this movie.

JoAdams

December 4th, 2009, 4:31 pm

Scrimgeour in front of the journalists.

Harry is holding the mirror shard guys.

And yeah you're right about the forest chase. But I always felt that this scene would be a bad climax. And these few seconds just confirm my fears. DH1 doesn't have a proper climax. Anyway---

We'll just have to wait and see.

P.S.This seems too 'real'. I loved HBP so much because of its dreamy, washed out, painting-like colours. Anyway, they have just started DH1 post-production so I am sure the next trailer will be completely different.

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 4:35 pm

Harry is holding the mirror shard guys.

Ohhh, that's what that is! Thanks for that! Yeah, now I see it.

Sacred_Memories

December 4th, 2009, 4:43 pm

I'm hyper-ventilating at the footage!

Godric's Hollow looks heartbreaking!

The DH footage from the Blue-Ray looks AMMMMMAAAAAAZING! AMAZING! What's wrong with the Forest Chase scene?

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 4:46 pm

I'm hyper-ventilating at the footage!

Godric's Hollow looks heartbreaking!

The DH footage from the Blue-Ray looks AMMMMMAAAAAAZING! AMAZING! What's wrong with the Forest Chase scene?

Well, the Forest Chase scene is the final scene in Part 1 (I think its been confirmed), and some say its a little anticlimactic how it looks from that sneak peak.

But the quality of that video is a little bad and I'm not going to pass any more judgement on that particular scene until we get a better video.

KJRiddle

December 4th, 2009, 4:48 pm

I LOVED it! It's un-facking-believable!

The person who says 'What do you know about the Deathly Hallows' is obviously Rhys Ifans as Xenophilius Lovegood, and those are his eyes, I'm one hundred per cent sure on that!

Then we hear the old voice of John Hurt (as the long haired Ollivander sitting on his bed) who says 'There is a rumor there are three. The one who posses them all, gets to make oneself immortal. There are few who believe such objects exist. If it's true you really don't stand a chance.'

I love the claustrophobic (I'm quite satisfied they don't seem dark, but there hasn't been any editing yet, so that's no issue) scenes where we see the Trio being chased through the woods, running through the crowd on Tottenham Court Road. Also some remarkable shots of Scrimgeour (being photographed), Griphook, the Mirror Shard, Hermione leaving her parents, the graveyard, the splinching of Ron, BUT ...

... does anyone see what map/letter Harry is reading, and who are standing outside on the pavement (two people). And I think there was a small shot at the chase scene, where we can see Snatchers run/flying as black smoke, not certain.

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 4:53 pm

mjhaners

December 4th, 2009, 4:54 pm

I LOVED it! It's un-facking-believable!

... does anyone see what map/letter Harry is reading, and who are standing outside on the pavement (two people). And I think there was a small shot at the chase scene, where we can see Snatchers run/flying as black smoke, not certain.

I think the people outside are Death Eaters lurking outside of Grimauld Place waiting for the trio, just like in the book.

KJRiddle

December 4th, 2009, 5:01 pm

If its a letter, its obviously Lily's letter to Sirius.

Death Eaters/Snatchers are standing outside on the pavement. In the book, there are always a couple of them standing there watching, waiting for something to happen.

Hermione walking through that park... that is probably part of the scene where she modifies her parents' memory.

I think the people outside are Death Eaters lurking outside of Grimauld Place waiting for the trio, just like in the book.

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/335/dunnoq.jpg

Sounds quite logical to me. It was the first thing I thought (either), but they don't look like Death Eaters (they would probably also wear masks, because they were just some random Death Eaters), they have also some quite skinny legs: no robes.

I can also see a black gate and a stone wall (you can see they edges in the background) behind them. The environment sounds to me as Malfoy Manor/Hogwarts ...

Still no clue xD

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 5:03 pm

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/335/dunnoq.jpg

Sounds quite logical to me. It was the first thing I thought (either), but they don't look like Death Eaters (they would probably also wear masks, because they were just some random Death Eaters), they have also some quite skinny legs: no robes.

I can also see a black gate and a stone wall (you can see they edges in the background) behind them. The environment sounds to me as Malfoy Manor/Hogwarts ...

Still no clue xD

No, remember the part in Order of the Phoenix, where Harry, Moody and the guard arrive and Moody reveals Grimmauld Place. That is exactly where those two are standing.

KJRiddle

December 4th, 2009, 5:06 pm

No, remember the part in Order of the Phoenix, where Harry, Moody and the guard arrive and Moody reveals Grimmauld Place. That is exactly where those two are standing.

OMG you're right! There was some sort of park-alike fenced area with trees! Because random Death Eaters are ALWAYS masked, I think those are Thorfinn Rowle and some other DE: blond hair. They seem to wear Muggle Clothing (I hope some 'cool' Muggle clothing, like suits, that would be awesome ... the Muggle version of Death Eaters would certainly wear suits)

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 5:09 pm

OMG you're right! There was some sort of park-alike fenced area with trees! Because random Death Eaters are ALWAYS masked, I think those are Thorfinn Rowle and some other DE: blond hair. They seem to wear Muggle Clothing (I hope some 'cool' Muggle clothing, like suits, that would be awesome ... the Muggle version of Death Eaters would certainly wear suits)

Of course they are wearing Muggle clothing. They are trying to be... er... secretive, or something like that. Like just two people standing around, doing nothing for no particular reason.

JoAdams

December 4th, 2009, 5:44 pm

Don't these two 'DEs' seem ridiculous?

Yeah yeah I admit it.
I'm completely negative towards the film. I disliked the trailer so much. :P :|

JustMeWayne

December 4th, 2009, 5:46 pm

OMG. Is the sneak peek for dh1 or 2 or both? Cuz if its for dh1, then why is griphook there? Unless the split is changed?
I do agree that the forest chase scene looks terrible.
But overall, this sneak peek is waaaay better than the HBP one released with ootp. (rmb the dumbledore and riddle scene?) This sneak peek has more scenes! Hope we can get a better quality soon, the bluetinge makes it hard to see certain scene well...

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 5:48 pm

mjhaners

December 4th, 2009, 5:54 pm

I have no problem with Great Hall being ruined but what's up with the spells? Wouldn't it undermine the whole 'Harry being the Master of the Elder Wand if Voldy could fight him with it?

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 5:58 pm

I have no problem with Great Hall being ruined but what's up with the spells? Wouldn't it undermine the whole 'Harry being the Master of the Elder Wand if Voldy could fight him with it?

Yeah, I know... unless that "Protection" part is Voldemort's spell being backfired. *shrug*

CrazyMuggle

December 4th, 2009, 6:03 pm

Well I think it was obvious that from a cinematic persepective the Book Harry/Voldemort duel would seem too anticlimatic and simple. For the film they're obviously going to try and make it more epic/more FX/damage/etc. I think it's a good idea if done well.

I loved the sneak peek! The lack of Hogwarts setting should be refreshing and the Godric's Hollow sequence gave me chills. Can't wait to see it in hi-def this Tuesday!

KJRiddle

December 4th, 2009, 6:04 pm

Okay, so I don't know if this is true or not, but I saw this on IMDB. I'm taking this lightly, and everyone else should too. But here is detail of the Harry/Voldemort battle. Again, not sure if this is real or not.

I don't know if fans will like it because it's a much longer fight. The Great Hall is completely smashed and there is no ceiling-just ruins. We see all the towers surrounding them and the dark red sun is rising behind the gigantic black and grey clouds (because of the fire and the ashes and the storm). It's going to be epic. Harry and Voldemort exchange more spells. They collide or are blocked from protective spheres. The final moment is so intense that everyone goes away because of how fierce the confrontation is. I think you'll love it. But maybe not. Imagine the Great Hall set without the tables, without the ceiling, without half its walls and all its windows completely smashed. All the ruins are on the floor and we see the deep red/black-grey cloudy sky over Voldemort and Harry and all the half destroyed towers and bridges surrounding them. I think it's a great improvement.

Partly agree on that. I disagree on the two things:
- The fact that the whole Great Hall is destroyed, it would be unrecognizable, and I think the whole hall has something ... enchanting at that particular moment in the movie. Because the Defenders of Hogwarts are driven into the castle by the Death Eaters and Voldemort, it should feel as a Last Hiding Place, so it has to be (partly) complete. Walls smashed, windows broken, ruins, etc. is all right, though!
- The whole spell-thing. It would look sooooo bad. It would make Harry look like a superhero, but he would never be able to preform the magic Dumbledore did, and Voldemort and Dumbledore are quite of the same 'level'. I agree that the whole confrontation must feel ultimate and intense. That can be perfectly achieved when they let Voldemort being frustration and angry, which causes windows to break and the ceiling to thunder.

I really agree this scene has to be strong, really, really strong. This is the end of Harry's journey, this is the end of his 7 year journey of learning magic (he's learned quite a lot).

ThaiHPFan

December 4th, 2009, 6:04 pm

Jonny Boy

December 4th, 2009, 6:13 pm

Well from the extra ET footage we can confirm that Harry and Hermione will be themselves, no polyjuice in that scene. It looks like it is going to be really emotional.

ThaiHPFan

December 4th, 2009, 6:17 pm

Is there any other way to watch the video? The one in Youtube has been taken down.

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 6:21 pm

Is there any other way to watch the video? The one in Youtube has been taken down.

That was inevitable. Erm, from what I can tell, that was the only video so far. Someone on IMDB was lucky enough to get Blu Ray recently and was able to watch it. So he posted that on youtube.

There are small screenshots on TLC of the video, but all were taken from that video so same quality.

mjhaners

December 4th, 2009, 6:21 pm

[QUOTE=ThaiHPFan;5464034]Is there any other way to watch the video? The ]
one in Youtube has been taken down.[/QUOTE']

The sneak peek? Here's another link that is yet to be taken down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFI_ueL-sA0

Noldus

December 4th, 2009, 6:37 pm

Exciting!! I for one think the chase scene looked great, but I wasn't very impressed by the trailer.

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 6:37 pm

MrSleepyHead

December 4th, 2009, 6:41 pm

The person who says 'What do you know about the Deathly Hallows' is obviously Rhys Ifans as Xenophilius Lovegood, and those are his eyes, I'm one hundred per cent sure on that!
I thought it was Harry saying, "What do you know about the Deathly Hallows?"
Then we hear the old voice of John Hurt (as the long haired Ollivander sitting on his bed) who says 'There is a rumor there are three. The one who posses them all, gets to make oneself immortal. There are few who believe such objects exist. If it's true you really don't stand a chance.'
I am slightly disappointed if this is Ollivander talking about the Hallows, rather than Xenophilius (I also lean towards it being Ollivander, but I am no expert). I like how, in the book, Ollivander does not know of the Deathly Hallows - only the Elder Wand, while Xenophilius is the one that knows all about the Hallows. However, based on the "narrating lines," I think Ollivander knowing "rumors" about the Hallows will work well enough. I do hope, though, that Xenophilius's dialogue is not given to Ollivander.

The thing from these clips that excites me most is the Godric's Hollow graveyard scenes. I am glad that, it seems, the filmmakers decided to not use the Polyjuice Potion on Harry and Hermione in the graveyard. From the clips, I think that scene will be very emotional.

I wonder, does anyone know who wrote the score for this sneak peek, considering Nicholas Hooper has chosen not to return for DH?

Noldus

December 4th, 2009, 6:58 pm

If this is a trailer for part I and they only used clips from that one I am wondering if they changed the split point. I think I saw a clip from Shell Cottage.

Fury

December 4th, 2009, 7:02 pm

If this is a trailer for part I and they only used clips from that one I am wondering if they changed the split point. I think I saw a clip from Shell Cottage.

There are at least two, maybe more, clips from Shell Cottage. The cottage itself (first scene), then Griphook, and if that voice is Ollivander and not Xeno, then that is another part at Shell Cottage.

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 7:07 pm

... does anyone see what map/letter Harry is reading, and who are standing outside on the pavement (two people). And I think there was a small shot at the chase scene, where we can see Snatchers run/flying as black smoke, not certain.

I sort of think that might be the map of hogwarts and Harry is looking at Ginny's dot.

I am not sure of all of the spell shooting is from the same scene when they are in the forest. I think that one of them is Harry during the silver doe scene. Also Harry's clothes aren't right for some of the shots. Hermione and Ron are wearing what they are wearing when they apparate to the beach after Malfoy manor, but Harry's clothes aren't right. I think that is what harry is wearing when they go to Gringotts. I wonder if he wears that for the rest of DH2 and some of these shots are from the battle of hogwarts in the forest.

PS. I can't imagine they have changed the split. I still think shell cottage is way too late. This footage must be from both films.

I want better quality.

merrymarge

December 4th, 2009, 7:26 pm

David Heyman's interview mentioned that they have not decided on the split. There is a possibility that it will be where the snatchers show up, just before they are taken to Malfoy Manor, but, they can still change thier minds.

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 7:30 pm

It is true that the split is not completely decided.

In this photo where Harry is looking at the map (http://gallery.the-leaky-cauldron.org/picture/255972) do you think that is the diary on the table beside it and possibly the locket or the fake locket?

PS. OR maybe it is the moleskin bag from Hagrid and not the locket?

lcbaseball22

December 4th, 2009, 7:41 pm

Damn, I shouldn't have gone to sleep! :grumble: It seems all the Youtube links have been removed. Anyone have a working link? :)

So, is this actually ON the Blu-Ray and DVD discs? It's not like the HBP sneak peeks where it's online but you need the disc to access? And is it actual footage from the film or is just behind the scenes stuff like with HBP? And how long is it? Regardless, so excited...wanna see! :drool:

Jeez, you've guys have flown through a couple pages since last night...I don't have time to read them all now, gotta get ready for school.

Hmm, maybe I'll just skip...it's the last day and we aren't doing anything important far as I know :lol:

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 7:50 pm

I think that these two photos are from the silver doe scene. Photo 1. (http://gallery.the-leaky-cauldron.org/picture/255976) Photo 2. (http://gallery.the-leaky-cauldron.org/picture/256005) Harry is wearing what he was wearing in those old photos of what we thought was the silver doe scene. The sort of grayish jumper with the high collar with the sleeves folded up.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/silver%20doe/silverdoe2.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/silver%20doe/silverdoe5.jpg

In this photo (http://gallery.the-leaky-cauldron.org/picture/255991), this is not what Harry is wearing in the snatcher scene and the on the beach scene, so this has to be something else.

gertiekeddle

December 4th, 2009, 7:53 pm

Guys, discussing the leaked trailer is fine - but please don't link to it from here to inofficial sources as long as WB doesn't put it on their site for viewing purpose. We'll come in some troubles if you do.

Since the older links don't work anymore I'm not going to edit them out.

AccioHP

December 4th, 2009, 8:13 pm

haven't been on here in forever! Just saw the teaser trailer! Can't believe we have one already :) soo excited!!

lcbaseball22

December 4th, 2009, 8:15 pm

If there is anyone like me that hadn't seen it yet...I just discovered that Snitchseeker still has a working link posted in their news article :)

BTW, who's voice is that?! :hmm: I think it sounds like John Hurt...maybe. Oh wait, he's talking about the Hallows, so it might be Xeno!

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 8:29 pm

I am not sure who it is either. I think it is Ollivander, but i am not a hundred percent sure. What does he say? There is one part i can't quite catch.

Blade707

December 4th, 2009, 8:32 pm

ok can't really pass judgement until I see it in actual clarity. What I don't understand is why some are saying the forest chase looks anti-climatic. I'm not saying it looks amazing, but how can you tell either way from this clip. What would have made the scene look climatic?

lcbaseball22

December 4th, 2009, 8:35 pm

I am not sure who it is either. I think it is Ollivander, but i am not a hundred percent sure. What does he say? There is one part i can't quite catch.

That would make sense with the establishing shots. Isn't that Shell Cottage at the very beginning? Here is a transcript (there is one word I can't make out...it sounds like "history" but that doesn't make sense) :hmm:

Harry: What do you know about the Deathly Hallows?

Unknown: It is rumored there are three. To possess them all *unknown word* one self immortal

Unknown: Though few truly beleive that such objects exist

Unknown: It is true, you really don't stand a chance

Martok

December 4th, 2009, 8:38 pm

So, is this actually ON the Blu-Ray and DVD discs? It's not like the HBP sneak peeks where it's online but you need the disc to access? And is it actual footage from the film or is just behind the scenes stuff like with HBP? And how long is it? Regardless, so excited...wanna see! :drool:

I have no ideo where this leaked trailer came from, but it's not from the blu-ray. It's neither on the disc nor on BD-Live. WB was very quick to have it deleted from youtube. (My "Inferi" video is still there. :cool:) Anyway, I don't think that was the sneak peak that was supposed to be on the HBP DVD/BD.
Well, I'm sure we all are going to see this teaser trailer eventually when WB sends direct download links to the fan site like they did in the past with the other films.

lcbaseball22

December 4th, 2009, 8:41 pm

I have no ideo where this leaked trailer came from, but it's not from the blu-ray. It's neither on the disc nor on BD-Live. WB was very quick to have it deleted from youtube. (My "Inferi" video is still there. :cool:) Anyway, I don't think that was the sneak peak that was supposed to be on the HBP DVD/BD.
Well, I'm sure we all are going to see this teaser trailer eventually when WB sends direct download links to the fan site like they did in the past with the other films.

Hmm, that's interesting. Yeah, I forgot you already had the blu-ray and surely you would have mentioned this to us if you'd seen it! :lol: :p

EDIT: Maybe this is just on the US and UK versions like speculated?

ArryGrotter

December 4th, 2009, 8:47 pm

Saw the snitchseeker version before it *just* got removed. :)

I am surprised to find that the sneak peek was a trailer! I can't wait to see this in better quality :)

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 8:50 pm

Harry: What do you know about the Deathly Hallows?

Unknown: It is rumored there are three. To possess them all *unknown word* one self immortal

Unknown: Though few truly believe that such objects exist

Unknown: It is true, you really don't stand a chance

Well it worked out because we couldn't understand different words.

'To possess them all is to make oneself immortal.'

lcbaseball22

December 4th, 2009, 8:53 pm

Well it worked out because we couldn't understand different words.

'To possess them all is to make oneself immortal.'

Sweet! :D :lol:

So I'm going to say this is Ollivander, but it could be Xeno...you know how they edit these things. :shrug:

Just think of the voiceovers from HBP trailers that didn't match up with the scenes the visuals implied ;)

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 8:59 pm

The trailer is definitely edited all over the place when they show them in the woods. That is not all from the same scene. It is a little hard to tell because of the poor quality, but the last shot of Harry is definitely during the silver doe and i am just not sure if Harry's clothes are right for the snatcher chase scene.

I keep watching it over and over and i am just not sure.

Also on a set report a fan mentioned harry looking like he had been run over by a bus which made us all think about when he is 'stung' by hermione. Isn't Harry stung during this scene? Though if it is all one big scene at xeno's, snatcher chase, capture, malfoy manor, arrival at shell cottage, burial, talk to ollivander and griphook then when would Hermione sting Harry. Wouldn't the death eaters know that they were chasing Harry Potter and why would the trio give false names? It is sort of confusing right now.

lcbaseball22

December 4th, 2009, 9:00 pm

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 9:10 pm

I think splinching scene also and they are wearing the outfits that there polyjuiced selves are wearing before they enter the ministry. I think Hermione must start fixing ron like in the book and then Harry comes over to help and she puts up protections around them.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/outside%20the%20ministry/triotransformed.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/outside%20the%20ministry/manspeakstotrio6.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/outside%20the%20ministry/manspeakstotrio5.jpg

gertiekeddle

December 4th, 2009, 9:16 pm

Öhm. Could we maybe reduce the talk about illegal downloads to a minimum - like not at all? Now I did delete some posts.

That's a part where we hand out even more warnings after Zero Tolerance Policy very fast, as some of you know.

Again: discussing the contents of the trailer is fine. Illegal downloading, providing links or addresses, the like - is not. Thanks!

lcbaseball22

December 4th, 2009, 9:19 pm

Well, nothing else, yet, but there's more coming on tonight and I'm fairly sure there might be some more on Monday. If I send it in to Leaky, they'll probably post it in their galleries, so you'll be able to see it. I won't be sending tonight's footage in until tomorrow, thuogh.

So you live in Canada and actually watched and recorded that?

I see, I thought you just got them from elsewhere :lol: So were the bits of those 2 vids shown at seperate times? Cause I figured there was more to the first...the audio seemed cut off. Either that or it was just a preview of what's to come tonight. ET does like that all the time.

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 9:28 pm

I just wish the trailer was better quality so we could see more details. I am not even sure if this is the sneak peek or if this is something else. I guess we have till Tuesday to find out.

boushh

December 4th, 2009, 9:44 pm

Just have to comment that shaky camera work is a style of film making. It isn't amateur. It's a stylistic choice to go for something that is hand held. Yates or Heyman mentioned that Part I will have a cinema verite quality to it so I pretty much expected some grittiness and hand held camera work from some of the footage.

To those wondering if they've change the split and all that. If you look at the end it does state the title of the film as a whole first and then the separate parts. I took it to mean that the footage was from both parts.

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 9:47 pm

Yeah this is the first time i have seen it actually called Part 1 and Part 2. I am glad that they aren't going to name one of the parts something different. That would have been odd.

PS. I kind of like the shaky photography kind of like Children of Men or Cloverfield.

lcbaseball22

December 4th, 2009, 9:56 pm

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 10:02 pm

lcbaseball22

December 4th, 2009, 10:08 pm

Maybe shaky isn't the right word, i mean taken with a steady camera. Kind of like hand held. A lot of the shaky is the person is holding the camera instead of putting it on a chair or something.

I agree though it will probably only be a few scenes like that.

I don't mind it for scenes when someone is running, like the aforementioned scene in the Ministry of Magic in OotP when Harry is chasing Bellatrix...or for action scenes like in the Bourne films. It gives a perspective like you are actually there and part of the action or whatever. But my Dad really hates it cause it makes him nauseous. :lol: Myself, I'm ok with it as long as it's used just for specific scenes like I said :)

Then again, there is a LOT of action in the book...so many opportunities for this technique to be used :whistle: It'd be cool for 7 Potters I think

Noldus

December 4th, 2009, 10:11 pm

I don't know why, but I feel the trailer came too early. It's still one year left till the premiere and I don't want to be too excited about it already. Actually, my intention was to forget the films for some months and take a free period, if you would :lol: But now, with the release of all these new pictures and the trailer I bet I can't stay away from the commotion.

boushh

December 4th, 2009, 10:13 pm

I mentioned the shaky camera because someone else did and said it looked amateur. I simply disagreed that the style of film making is amateur and I do expect it to appear in some scenes in the film from the comments the director has made. I'm sure it won't be in scenes like the wedding, for example. If that style is used then it will most likely be used when it is appropriate.

ETA: It's also difficult to make any definitive judgment on the film making from this clip, IMHO. I'll wait for my Blu Ray.

lcbaseball22

December 4th, 2009, 10:17 pm

I mentioned the shaky camera because someone else did and said it looked amateur. I simply disagreed that the style of film making is amateur and I do expect it to appear in some scenes in the film from the comments the director has made. I'm sure it won't be in scenes like the wedding, for example. If that style is used then it will most likely be used when it is appropriate.

Hmm, well I'm not seeing it so I dunno what they are talking about...but I agree. :) Though I'm a bit dissapointed we don't have Delbonnel again as the DP, I have a lot of confidence in Serra based on what I've seen with Blood Diamond and Defiance. :tu: He'll give it the right feel.

Jack5555

December 4th, 2009, 10:17 pm

What shaky photography? Guys, I think that's just from being filmed off a TV or computer screen or whatever :lol: If there is any shaky photography of the actual footage it looks very minimal to me... :shrug: And the hand-held will probably be used sparingly, like MoM in OotP

At least I hope so. If the whole film uses hand held like Public Enemies...God I hope not! :no:
Public Enemies was good though :P

And...

OMG! I just got home from volunteering at a nursing home to find Christmas came 21 days early! I almost went into shock. I am still processing everything! My DVD should be coming on Tuesday, because I payed the extra 7 bucks on Amazon to get the fast shipping :D

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 10:20 pm

Yeah i almost threw up watching Blair Witch Project, but that was the only film that has ever bothered me. I think they had a steady cam for the silver doe scene too. It was in the photos i think.

Are we sure that is Ollivander? It just doesn't make sense to me because that would mean that they find out about the hallows in the second film instead of at the end of the first. Is it possible all those lines aren't together? I wish we had better quality or could ask the guy who has the blue-ray if that is Ollivander or Xenophilius.

It does look like shell cottage with the window and the walls and all. It could be Luna's room. In the book, harry does ask Ollivander if he has heard of the deathly hallows and Ollivander has no idea what he is talking about and asks something like does this have to do with wands. I wonder if the line 'It's rumored that there are three' is Ollivander and the other lines belong to Xenophilius.

Ollivander: 'It's rumored that there are three.'

Xenophilius: 'To possess them all is to make oneself immortal. Though few truly believe that such objects exist.'

Ollivander: 'If it's true you really don't stand a chance.'

You know how they like to play fast and loose with the editing in trailers. Eh, i am suggesting it and i don't even believe it. The only part where the voice sounds different is when it says 'to posses them all.'

lcbaseball22

December 4th, 2009, 10:28 pm

Yeah i almost threw up watching Blair Witch Project, but that was the only film that has ever bothered me. I think they had a steady cam for the silver doe scene too. It was in the photos i think
Haven't seen that one, but I had a similar experience with Public Enemies, which was good otherwise. And like you, that is only one that's ever bothered me...and I suspect it won't be so bad on the TV screen at home compared to the big screen at a theatre, where it's so in your face. But back to DH, what do you mean by "steady cam?" used in the Silver Doe scene? Cause I think of that as the opposite of a hand-held. Are we referring to one and the same? Hand held is shaky, not "steady" :lol: But maybe I'm just not on base with the technical lingo here...

Are we sure that is Ollivander? It just doesn't make sense to me because that would mean that they find out about the hallows in the second film instead of at the end of the first. Is it possible all those lines aren't together? I wish we had better quality or could ask the guy who has the blue-ray if that is Ollivander or Xenophilius.

It does look like shell cottage with the window and the walls and all. It could be Luna's room. In the book, harry does ask Ollivander if he has heard of the deathly hallows and Ollivander has no idea what he is talking about and asks something like does this have to do with wands. I wonder if the line 'It's rumored that there are three' is Ollivander and the other lines belong to Xenophilius.

Ollivander: 'It's rumored that there are three.'

Xenophilius: 'To possess them all is to make oneself immortal. Though few truly believe that such objects exist.'

Ollivander: 'If it's true you really don't stand a chance.'

You know how they like to play fast and loose with the editing in trailers. Eh, i am suggesting it and i don't even believe it. The only part where the voice sounds different is when it says 'to posses them all.'

Hmm, interesting point. I'm not sure either. I do think it's John Hurt in that one part talking to Harry (based on the background) but who knows if the dialogue matches up with that scene. It probably doesn't :shrug:

Noldus

December 4th, 2009, 10:32 pm

Hmm, well I'm not seeing it so I dunno what they are talking about...but I agree. :) Though I'm a bit dissapointed we don't have Delbonnel again as the DP, I have a lot of confidence in Serra based on what I've seen with Blood Diamond and Defiance. :tu: He'll give it the right feel.

Delbonnel gave HBP an artistic feel I totally loved, but I think DH 1 needs a DP with a more natural and action packed style, if you know what I mean.

lcbaseball22

December 4th, 2009, 10:33 pm

Delbonnel gave HBP an artistic feel, but I think DH 1 needs a DP with a more natural and action packed style, if you know what I mean.

Right, which is exactly what I think Eduardo Serra brings to the table :tu:

Nagini001

December 4th, 2009, 10:35 pm

This may be a dumb question, prob the most stupid question around, but at the end of HBP how does the ending of HBP tie in with the beginning of DH? I have read both books at least 3-4 times and the ending of HBP and the beginning of DH at least 6 times over trying to figure this out. :hmm:

phoenix88

December 4th, 2009, 10:37 pm

Sorry if this has already been discussed, but WHY does Hermione have blood all over her hands?! :wow:

It looks like Ron or someone is laying on the ground behind her...my best guess is the splinching scene.

I was wondering the exact same thing and why she was dressed in a suit. I guess that makes sense it would be right after the splinching.

As for the rest of it, there were so many random scenes. I loved the glimpse of the graveyard at godric's hollow and the shot of "peverell." Even though it was so short, I loved it! Now, I can't make wait for it and it is still an entire year away!!!

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 10:40 pm

Haven't seen that one, but I had a similar experience with Public Enemies, which was good otherwise. And like you, that is only one that's ever bothered me...and I suspect it won't be so bad on the TV screen at home compared to the big screen at a theatre, where it's so in your face. But back to DH, what do you mean by "steady cam?" used in the Silver Doe scene? Cause I think of that as the opposite of a hand-held. Are we referring to one and the same? Hand held is shaky, not "steady" :lol: But maybe I'm just not down with the technical lingo here... :whistle:

I guess i am not down the spelling, but this is a steadicam (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Steadicam_and_operator_in_front_of_crowd.jpg) . It goes over your shoulders and is sort of attached to their body, but has some freedom of movement up and down and side to side. It is still sort of hand held, but is also smooth because you want to feel in the action, feel the motion, but not really shaky all over the place.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/silver%20doe/silverdoe2.jpg

I think they also did a steadicam when they were running through london in their wedding clothes and maybe on the beach.

rowansjet

December 4th, 2009, 10:40 pm

It could be that Olivander is being used to recap the Deathly Hallows for the audience at the beginning of Part 2, seeing as it will have been half a year since Part 1 and Xeno's explanation of them.

I actually liked what I saw of the final chase scene (including the final shot of Harry). If it's preceded by a big fight scene inside the Lovegood house, then it should be pretty good.

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 10:45 pm

I was wondering the exact same thing and why she was dressed in a suit. I guess that makes sense it would be right after the splinching. That is Mathaldia's suite, not the normal Hermione. I agree it does look very strange on her.

To quote the All-inclusive DH list (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=122710):

We have heard of a scene (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/8/6/deathly-hallows-update-rumors-on-seven-potters-scrimgeour-plus-new-ootp-high-res-photos) with Bill Nighy as Rufus Scrimgeour where he makes a speech regarding 'dark times ahead.' It says this will take place at the Ministry with fifteen photographers and up to a crowd of fifty plus worried and anxious employees...we also understand Bill worked on one of the blue screen stages for photographs to be included in the Daily Prophet. [source] (http://hp4unews.blogspot.com/) It may be that Rufus Scrimgeour as the Minister of Magic will convey some of the information given to us in chapter 2.

rowansjet

December 4th, 2009, 10:50 pm

I think you might have misunderstood me. Besides, won't Scrimgeour be dead by the beginning of Part 2?

And the "voiceover" for this preview is definitely all spoken by Ollivander. It's got the same strain throughout, and Rhys Ifans sounds fairly different (just watched an interview with him on youtube to check).

clockstopper

December 4th, 2009, 10:52 pm

i think its very clear even with the crappy quality that the man we see in the video is ollivander and not mr.lovegood, and the voice sounds like the one of john hurt but maybe not all of them

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 10:57 pm

I agree i think you guys are right. I am just not sure if what he is saying makes any sense is the thing. If it is out of order somehow i guess it isn't as bad.

Also in this clip at the beach (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVQEEOMERog&feature=PlayList&p=15DABE6B9531C7F5&index=0) they are definitely using a steadicam. Look at about 1:15 as they follow Harry with the camera. See it is hand held, but it is also free of motion. If you don't want to see spoilers then don't look.

lcbaseball22

December 4th, 2009, 11:05 pm

Also in this clip at the beach (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVQEEOMERog&feature=PlayList&p=15DABE6B9531C7F5&index=0) they are definitely using a steadicam. Look at about 1:15 as they follow Harry with the camera. See it is hand held, but it is also free of motion. If you don't want to see spoilers then don't look.

Thanks, I hadn't seen that :) Jeez, that music is annoying though...

Anyways, I wanted to post some screencaps but I've been informed I can't until the it's an "official" release...so I'll try to describe as best I can a couple of the scenes I find intriguing and wondered what your guys thoughts were-

1. At about 8 seconds in, we see someone standing with their back to us...and there seems to be a group of people in front of him or her.

2. Right after that, at about 11 seconds in- Someone is walking by themselves down a street.

3. At around 15 seconds, someone is opening a door.

Any ideas as why, when, where, or what any of these scenes are in the film? :lol:

boushh

December 4th, 2009, 11:07 pm

I'm sure they won't go too crazy with the camera work, but here is also some info (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cin%C3%A9ma_v%C3%A9rit%C3%A9) of the term that Yates used to describe DH Part I.

decarus

December 4th, 2009, 11:13 pm

Thanks, I hadn't seen that :) Jeez, that music is annoying though...
The music is annoying. I muted it.

1. At about 8 seconds in, we see someone standing with their back to us...and there seems to be a group of people in front of him or her.

Any ideas what this scene is?

I think this is Rufus Scrimgeour, the minister of magic, talking to people about Voldemort or Dumbledore or something.

To quote the All-inclusive DH list (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=122710):

We have heard of a scene (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/8/6/deathly-hallows-update-rumors-on-seven-potters-scrimgeour-plus-new-ootp-high-res-photos) with Bill Nighy as Rufus Scrimgeour where he makes a speech regarding 'dark times ahead.' It says this will take place at the Ministry with fifteen photographers and up to a crowd of fifty plus worried and anxious employees...we also understand Bill worked on one of the blue screen stages for photographs to be included in the Daily Prophet. [source] (http://hp4unews.blogspot.com/) It may be that Rufus Scrimgeour as the Minister of Magic will convey some of the information given to us in chapter 2.

2. Right after that, at about 11 seconds in- Someone is walking by themselves down a street. :hmm:

I think that is Hermione walking down the street after she modified her parents memories.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/modify%20memory/hermioneun4.jpg

3. At around 15 seconds, someone is opening a door. Any idea as when/where this is?

I think that is Grimmauld Place. Like the other side of the second real photo we got the other day. Harry's arm.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/grimmauld%20place/HPDH1-00208.jpg

PS. I don't think the door looks the same though, but i would still guess Grimmauld Place and Harry's arm. It could be a different door. The doorknob is different and the lock plate and the door goes in instead of out. Maybe the door in the video is the front door, but then harry would still be wearing his jacket. I don't know.