Way Ahead for Deathly Hallows Movie(s)

Yaxley isn't in that scene according to this person (http://www.harrypotterforum.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=1072&page=1).


That thread is way too long to read and determine for myself...do you know if they are they legit?

Apparently they work in the art department I see. Hmm, it is probably just another SCOOP though :shrug:

Yaxley isn't in that scene according to this person (http://www.harrypotterforum.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=1072&page=1).

No. The person who uploaded the video is from IMDb, and he/she recorded it off the dvd.

Oh, I see. So wait, it's confirmed to be on the DVD afterall? Or did you mean Blu-Ray? I mean Mugglenet is calling it "Blu-Ray DVD" :lol:

That thread is way too long to read and determine for myself...do you know if they are they legit?He/she told everyone about Harry and Hermione not being under polyjuice in Godrics Hollow before the trailer came out.Oh, I see. So wait, it's confirmed to be on the DVD afterall? Or did you mean Blu-Ray? I mean Mugglenet is calling it "Blu-Ray DVD" :lol:Both.

He/she told everyone about Harry and Hermione not being under polyjuice in Godrics Hollow before the trailer came out

Hmm, well it's possible they just made a lucky guess. I wouldn't say this is concrete proof. :shrug: I guess I'll go ahead and read through this thread and decide further for myself. So why hasn't there been any mention here of the stuff they posted? Thread is a couple days old...

I thought the forest chase seen looked great!
But I guess none of us can tell seeing as we've seen only approximately 5 seconds of it.

The part where Hermione has blood on her hands would have to be my favourite part,
Or Ollivanders lines in the background :D

Hmm, well it's possible they just made a lucky guess. I wouldn't say this is concrete proof. I guess I'll go ahead and read through this thread and decide further for myself. So why hasn't there been any mention here of the stuff they posted? Thread is a couple days old...

I agree with you. For all we know they could be under polyjuice potion and during that scene we see Harry and Hermione sometimes and their disguises at other.

Oh my God, I'm not even done with reading the first page yet and if this stuff is all TRUE...

Well, lets just say that there is a ridiculous amount of spoilers and it all sounds AWESOME! :drool:

Having watched and listened to the sneak peak but once, I think it's Xeno speaking to Harry because I can kinda detect a hint of an Irish accent(which Rhys would've had to put on to emulate Evanna's own) in the voice.

You know what I love about this teaser? It's not the traditional 'action, opera-pounding music' trailer we've grown so accustomed to lately. It feels like something so much deeper. It's epic but in a more intimate and emotionally subtle realistic way..just like the wonderful books that we all fell in love with at one point.

Here's to the power of great stories and modern day mythology! :clap:

Storytelling doesn't die. It evolves.

Hmm, well it's possible they just made a lucky guess. I wouldn't say this is concrete proof. :shrug: I guess I'll go ahead and read through this thread and decide further for myself. So why hasn't there been any mention here of the stuff they posted? Thread is a couple days old...The sheer amount of detail in his descriptions is too much to be made up, it's been talked about for the past few days on IMDb.

Well that thread is an interesting read at any rate. I'm taking it with a grain of salt even if a lot of it sounds really, really cool.

The sheer amount of detail in his descriptions is too much to be made up, it's been talked about for the past few days on IMDb.

Yes, that's the impression I'm getting too. If he's fake, he's taking it to a ridiculous level! :lol: I mean, SCOOP was nothing compared to this..


Ok, here's everything this person has posted so far...but take it with a grain of salt till we have further proof-


dream_silently 2 days ago
Part I's shooting hasn't finished yet. They haven't filmed most scenes with Lord Voldemort (they will finish these scenes in late January) and they are about to begin the shooting of the Ministry of Magic battle which will be epic. Imelda Staunton comes back and there will be three parts of the battle: first, duels with Umbridge and Death Eaters, then a Dementors chase (which will be quite scary) and finally a really intense showdown in the Atrium (which is completely DIFFERENT. Black tiles, very low silver light, rock formations and a very murky atmosphere.) In addition, they will travel to Scotland for more background shooting for both films (most part of this will take place next Spring, though).

Concerning Part One: the Seven Potters battle takes place mostly in the air. Little Whinging, London downtown, English countryside and the exterior of the Burrow. When they all reach the reeds surrounding the Burrow there will be a chase inside the fields and marshes, similar to the HBP one. The Death Eaters will try to reach the house but there is going to be a gigantic protective sphere protexting the house from them. The entire sequence is going to be one of the best action sequences of the series (until Part 2). Furthermore, another battle happens right after the wedding. The protective sphere is smashed and the duels will be massive (wait for great action scenes with Greyback,Lucius, Bellatrix, Lupin, Tonks and the Weasleys). In addition, the Silver Doe scene will be quite similar to the Cave scene in HBP. It's happening in the depths of a completely snow-covered forest and the lake is going to be pretty big (not a pond). Harry will do a lot of swimming until he finds out the sword in the depths of the lake. The diving scenes (there is going to be lots of ice too) are going to be pretty scary and haunting. Furthermore, the Death Eaters will come to that place after Ron saves Harry and destroys the Locket.There will be a brief battle inside the snowy forest before they meet Hermione and apparate to a snowy mountain.
There will also be lots of scenes with the Death Eaters. We'll see them wreaking some havoc. The film will feature few scenes at Hogwarts (and the Astronomy Tower set will be used for 2 scenes and it will be important in Part 2 too). In the beginning of the film, there will be a moment where Snape watches Dementors flying over the lake and mountains and Death Eaters guarding the walls of Hogwarts and invading the courtyards and the Great Hall.
The film is supposed to finish when the Snatchers destroy Xenophilius Lovegood's tower-house and they chase the kids in the forest. There will be a massive fight scene but the trio will be captured and transported to Malfoy Manor. Voldemort will be at Numerngard and he will fly over the stormy ocean to go and catch Harry.

Some few details about Part 2:

it's turning out to be the most epic film of the series (and one of the most epic ones ever). The Malfoy Manor and Shell Cottage scenes have been filmed. The Manor battle will be MUCH MUCH bigger than what you actually expect. The set is HUGE. It's actually like a big castle and battles will take place in many places and towers. They have started shooting Gringotts scenes last week and they'll wrap sometime in January. The entire climactic war sequence at Hogwarts is going to be amazing. The filming started in mid-October and they wrapped shooting a part of it last week. They will continue shooting few stuff in December,January and February(but during that time they will be shooting mostly: Gringotts,Voldemort's quest,Ministry heist and Snape/Dumbledore pensieve scenes). They will focus on the battle in late February and they will wrap shooting it in early/mid-May before shooting the epilogue (which will be the last scene to film). They were filming the battle for 4 entire weeks and they haven't filmed more than 20% of it. It's going to be huge. And I'm talking about the BATTLE. Not the limbo scene with Harry and Dumbledore or the Pensieve or the forest confrontation with Voldemort.
They have shot action scenes in the two main courtyards, in the Great Hall and the Entrance Hall and Moving Staircases. The Great Hall is really damaged. Finally, the Fiendfyre sequence was filmed in August and it's going to be the most amazing way to prepare the audience for the war scenes.

That's all for now. I'll come back to update you.
dream_silently 2 days ago
I'll give you some artwork pics at Christmas but now I am afraid I can't.

The art department is working really hard these days. There are many different sketches for the Harry/Dumbledore limbo sequence.

Part 1 will truly feel like a 'road film' as Yates said. All scenes will have a very eerie atmosphere of danger. Part 2 will be more straightforward, let's say. The really nice thing that they're doing is the fact that we will be able to see Voldemort's own journey to find the Elder Wand. So the first part will not focus only on the Trio.

Personally, though, I think that the best action scene will be the Gringotts break-in. The artwork is mind-blowing.
dream_silently 2 days ago
I forgot to mention:


Snape will not get killed in the Shrieking Shack. I'll leave it as a surprise but the place where he dies is very very very interesting.

These scenes are to be shot these months.

You will really like Ron's own journey after he leaves Harry and Hermione. There is a scene with him and the Snatchers and we see him being alone in the countryside and we see all the mysterious things with the Deluminator. When Harry sees the Silver Doe (the second time because he sees it in another forest before and as he approaches it disappears) we see a shadow. It's all very dark and intense but it's Ron. The Horcrux scene will be really frightening. The Harry/Hermione kiss has been shot months ago and they'll be like black/grey ghosts with red eyes approaching to kiss. Voldemort's voice will be heard, too. And Rupert did an amazing job (he was trembling and turning into evil and crying at the same time). As they leave, they hear strange voices and DEs apparate in the distant trees. They run and hide. The DEs fly in black smoke and they're all masked. Harry and Ron find Hermione and they apparate just when the DEs create some sort of a maelstrom around the place. As they apparate on a snowy mountain, they see Hogwarts far far away behind some mountains. It has a very nostalgic feel. Hermione gets all crazy with Ron but things get better when they begin traveling again.

And about Shell Cottage. The exterior scenes are beautiful. The distant cliffs, the beach and the infinite sea, the cottage. There's a beautiful pic with Shell Cottage during sunset and Harry alone at the beach looking at the sea. The entire beginning of Part 2 will have this feel of the final 'golden' moments before the war at Hogwarts (the Dragon flight is also a beautiful scene).

That's all for today. I'll come back in the upcoming days to update.
Goodnight.
dream_silently 1 day ago
I won't reveal this. But it's surprising, yet it completely fits with the script.

And I think that fans will love Snape's death foreshadowing. There is a scene where he completely feels that he is going to be killed. They haven't shot these scenes but they are about to.

Overall, the entire Battle of Hogwarts is going to surprise you. There are many new sequences and some twists.


Ask whatever you want about the films (especially Part 1 since it's 90% finished).
dream_silently 1 day ago
1)Is there a Hogsmeade scene with the trio in Part 1 ?
2)Will we see DD's Funeral and if not how the White Tomb - Elder Wand thing will be introduced ?
3)Someone told us that there is some kind of "fight-duel" between Cissy and Bella.Is that true?
4)When DEs arrive at the Wedding do we get to see the battle that follows or we just see the trio apparating?
5)How does Part1 start ?
6)Tell us things that Yates has added to the films.
7)What has he cut ?
8)Do you have any script extracts?


1. No they don't. The whole plot with Aberforth is a mystery (they discuss the mirror shard at Shell Cottage a lot) up until the entire sequence at Hogsmeade before the Hogwarts battles.

2.No the funeral hasn't been filmed. But yes they show Dumbledore's tomb and there is a scene where Voldemort takes the Elder Wand (in the first half of Part 2)

3.There is no duel between the two of them. But we see a lot more going on in Malfoy Manor and Spinner's End than what you might expect.

4. There is mayhem. Absolute chaos. The Trio doesn't fight a lot-actually they apparate quite quickly. But we see others fighting the Death Eaters.Similar battle is happening as they reach the Burrow after the air sequence. The second time,though, the Death Eaters are not trying to attack from distance. Now they eventually break the protective sphere and wreak havoc.

5.It's a very dark opening. There are 4 scenes but they don't know which is going to be the really first one: the Malfoy Manor meeting, Death Eaters invade Hogwarts,Hogsmeade,Diagon Alley and Knockturn Alley, Rufus Scrimgeour gathers all Aurors and ministry officials to talk about Voldemort's ascending and a long flashback of Dumbledore's death sequence.

6. Why should I spoil this? I think I've said enough about some additional scenes.


BRAVEHEART,

Greyback doesn't only attack Katie Bell actually. You'll see more characters in danger as well as Bill Weasley and Ginny.
Yes Nagini does 'finish' Snape. Won't say anything else. This is turning out to be the best moment of the series.
Voldemort plays a lot. And yes he has a few more scenes than in the book. Especially in Part One. Snape plays a lot more, too because we see more scenes at Hogwarts in Part One.
The cafe attack is really fast-paced and intense. I think you'll like it.
There is a scene where Regulus and Kreacher go to the crystal island to get the Locket. The inferi are featured there. There are thoughts of adding them to the Battle but it's unlikely.
There are scenes at Hogwarts that are completely new. I'll just mention that we'll see the Death Eaters patrolling around Hogwarts, the new D.A. making its plans and Snape moments that you'll enjoy.
The Seven Potters battle will be quite amazing. We will see Moody falling but there's so much chaos that there is no time to think about it. The realisation comes afterwards.
They're in negotiations about the score but I'm pretty sure they've already decided.


Tom,
the Godric's Hollow sequence is going to be really amazing actually. Do you really want to spoil yourself?


Well I have worked on Godric's Hollow construction in the art department and I can tell you some more details about it, if you want.
dream_silently 1 day ago
Sopho,

Death Eaters attack Muggles in Part 1.

The end of DH1 may change. There are two possibilities: the Snatchers capture the Trio and take them to Malfoy Manor or the Trio apparates to Sheel Cottage right after Dobby's death. The first is more possible though. I think it has a nice climax. Actually some people may get angry because of the many new battle sequences but the entire film will have multiple 'climaxes' let's say. There are very few calm moments and these moments are full of emotions and loneliness. 80% is this ultimate sense of danger and this endless chase in various places.

Yes Tonks appears more. Luna has few scenes at the Burrow and at Hogwarts but she has more scenes than in the book. Greyback is an important character in both films. So no worries.




Braveheart,

both deaths happen the same way. Wormtails' death is shocking and creepy. Dobby has a few more scenes in Pt.1 (at the Burrow and another time while Harry is into the wild) and all his scenes are very cute. He is very lovable and nice and that's why his death will be really sad. That's the main reason they think about putting his death in the finale of Pt.1. They want to keep all his scenes in one film and not put his death to the opening of Pt.2 because the audience may not feel as sad as they should.
dream_silently 1 day ago
Bellatrix has more screen time than in the first half of the book but it's equal to her screentime in HBP. It depends, though. if they eventually add the Malfoy Manor sequence in Pt1 then she will have much more screentime because it's a huge scene and she has a really big part in it.
dream_silently 1 day ago
-Greyback is actually the same he was in HBP. He has more 'brutal' scenes especially in the Battle of Hogwarts.
-Eduardo Serra's work is absolutely AMAZING. Have you seen his work on Wings of a Dove and Blood Diamond? Imagine these amazing differences in the colours of each scene. DH1 is extremely dark and gritty but there are many moments where it's extremely artsy and stylish. You will be dazzled.
-Rita Skeeter plays mostly in Part 1. Her role in Part 2 is very small.
-The 7 Potters have lots of characters: Harry,Ron,Hermione,Lupin,Tonks,Moody,Bill,Fleur,Ma ndungus,Arthur,Fred,Hagrid and George. Of course Voldemort,Lucius,Bellatrix,Greyback,Yaxley and other DEs.
-The Snatchers are violent. You will like them.
-Yes Kingsley is back. No worries.
-They are to shoot Snape's memories. I won't say anything but imagine the combination of the extraordinary special effects of the memories in HBP along with the extremely dark,ominous and emotional story that unfolds Snape's true identity. It's going to be an amazing sequence.
-Ginny doesn't play a lot in DH1 because it's more about the Trio traveling and hiding and fighting but yes she has a decent amount of screentime.
-Sirius' mirror will be introduced very early in the film. I won't say much because I'll spoil it but it has to do with Grimmauld Place. I won't say anything else. You can guess though.

Chris,
I will post an artwork pic of Godric's Hollow and maybe Malfoy Manor. But you know, I'll try to hide as much as possible. It's risky.
dream_silently 1 day ago
The flashback with Dumbledore will be a combination of the Cave/Astronomy Tower/Snape's flight scenes. It's one of the nightmares that Harry has throughout the first film.

There are enough scenes with Snape and Dumbledore in Pt.2. No worries. Just not much stuff with Lily. There are fewer but really to-the-point scenes.

McGonagall has a lot of screentime. Don't worry guys. There are two films. Everyone gets the screentime they deserve.

Thiego,
the scenes in Harry's bedroom are very small. Harry wakes from a terrible nightmare and we see the Daily Prophet. He checks his things and he sees dark figures in Privet Drive and clouds gathering in the sky. The foreboding is EVERYWHERE in the first part. And it foreshadows the battle in the air that is about to come.
dream_silently 1 day ago
Gellert's scenes are very short and there are pictures in the Daily Prophet and in Skeeter's book. There are very very few and short flashbacks but we see much more of him as an old wizard who faces Voldemort. Voldemort is chasing him throughout various places.Voldemort's journey is longer in Pt.1.
Harry is in denial. He doesn't believe a thing about Dumbledore in the beginning but later he is extremely frustrated. His scene with Dumbledore in the end of Part 2 will be one of the most emotional ones (along with Snape's memories,death and Harry's walk to Voldemort).
Oh, the scene with Aberforth has been filmed and is very very powerful. The story with Arriana is touching. There is not as much as in the book but it's enough for the film.
dream_silently 1 day ago
Guys I need to sleep.


Well braveheart,
there is a scene where the Death Eaters fly over Hogwarts and invade the castle and patrol the grounds and walls. Snape watches the Dementors flying in the sky surrounding the mountains. It's a beautiful sequence in the script. There are many rumors that Kloves will change parts of the DH1 opening (to open immediately with Voldemort's scenes) but this scene is the second scene of the script right now.
dream_silently 1 day ago
I don't want to disappoint you, Thiego, but it's similar to the HBP kiss. It lasts a little longer but that's it. Though,they kiss properly in Part 2's finale.
dream_silently 1 day ago
Well there is a lot of build-up. From the very beginning, Ron is overprotective during the 7 Potters sequence. There are moments between the two of them but Ron is really jealous afterwards. When they reunite, Hermione is angry towards him and she eventually cries and falls on a chair and he comes and reluctantly hugs her. Then there are some short moments (when the Snatchers capture them and especially when Bellatrix tortures her) and there are tender moments at Shell Cottage where Ron is really taking care of her. Their kiss takes place in the Chamber of Secrets (much changed set).
dream_silently 1 day ago
Thiego, I'll answer your questions and I'll leave. Sorry.

Mundungus...Yes and no. Well, there is a brand new sequence at Knockturn Alley where Kreacher finds him.I won't say more though.

The dance scene is a cute moment. It happens before the Godric's Hollow moments. Both Harry and Hermione are devastated and they don't talk to each other. harry is thoughtful, Hermione cries or sits alone in the countryside and at the same time, we see Death Eaters following them. During these moments we see lots of Voldemort's quest and Hogwarts scenes. After some time, they are together and Harry tries to cheer her up and they have a quick dance (it's not a dance actually. Just few moves and turns and they laugh and talk about Ron).
Hermione doesn't dance with Harry at the wedding. Actually Harry comes late and when he comes, very few minutes later, the DEs attack.


That's all for today. I'm going to sleep.
Bye. :)
dream_silently 1 day ago
Um no.

After the Godric's Hollow scenes there are extremely few scenes before the Silver Doe sequence.
And I think it's logical that this scene happens after Ron's leaving. It's Harry's way to cheer Hermione up. And that is the moment they first talk about Ron.

Anyway, if you don't believe me it's perfectly alright. I haven't given any proof so it's completely OK. I just wanted to inform you.
That's all.

Goodnight you all.
dream_silently 17 hours ago
1. The Neville VS Nagini scene hasn't been filmed yet. But the artwork is jaw-dropping. Every moment in Part 2 finale will be brilliant. Trust me.
They do as much as possible. They want to give the series a proper-epic-climax.

2. The fight between Bellatrix and Molly is...different. Not much different but it happens in a different set. Molly shows her real powers and, I've got to tell you, Bella's death is sad. The way she collapses and Voldemort flies and screams and blasts almost everything will be epic.

3.That's a really unpredictable and smart question. Yes she does. And it's a moment that all Ron/Hermione fans will love. Do you really want to be spoiled?

4.Yes Greyback truly attacks Bill in the first battle sequences of Part One. He also fights Lupin-twice-, threatens Tonks and attacks Katie Bell and Ginny. Some scenes are at the Burrow attack but most of it happens during the Hogwarts battle. Oh, and don't worry about Molly's fury towards Bellatrix in the end of Part 2. Bellatrix is not a really pleasant character. She does A LOT to the Weasleys and to Fleur (not to mention that she kills Tonks, who is like Molly's daughter in the films).



Avangelis,

-Well, don't expect too many creatures actually. It's 90% a wizards battle. And that's what they're aiming.

-Not really. It's slightly different but it has this nostalgic feel. It happens at King's Cross as in the book. It finishes though with the train approaching Hogwarts. And we see the Castle at the sunset in its old beauty (because the battle has damaged half of it before). It's a similar shot of the first scene we see the castle in the 'Philosopher's Stone'. It is more majestic though. The artwork is beautiful.

-The torture scene is quite shocking. I think you'll love it. Bellatrix does slightly a bit more to Hermione.In addition to this, Draco is shocked and hides in the shadows. He is disgusted. It's a very sad moment of Draco Malfoy who keeps showing his vulnerable side in both parts. Even Narcissa and Lucius are slightly shocked. Ron sheds tears and shouts desperately. There are two brilliant tender scenes at the Shell Cottage where Hermione breaks down in Ron's arms at the beach and later, Ron takes care of her inside the house. In the end, when the Trio discusses the Gringotts break-in Ron tells her that she is too weak to participate in this dangerous mission.

Electrix,
There are few scenes with her in Part 1. In Part 2, yes she does confront Snape and she is absolutely breathtaking in some scenes where she fights MANY Death Eaters.

Slughorn doesn't fight that much but there is a really emotional scene with him and Harry before the battle.


Leo,

-Well the Epilogue is at King's Cross. It ends with the train traveling through Scotland and reaching Hogwarts. It's a truly beautiful scene. It's sunset and we will see some amazing aerial shots of the castle and its grounds. It's quite similar to Half-Blood Prince's final scene concerning the sky's colours and the peaceful atmosphere.

-I don't know if fans will like it because it's a much longer fight. The Great Hall is completely smashed and there is no ceiling-just ruins. We see all the towers surrounding them and the dark red sun is rising behind the gigantic black and grey clouds (because of the fire and the ashes and the storm). It's going to be epic. Harry and Voldemort exchange more spells. They collide or are blocked from protective spheres. The final moment is so intense that everyone goes away because of how fierce the confrontation is. I think you'll love it. But maybe not. Imagine the Great Hall set without the tables, without the ceiling, without half its walls and all its windows completely smashed. All the ruins are on the floor and we see the deep red/black-grey cloudy sky over Voldemort and Harry and all the half destroyed towers and bridges surrounding them. I think it's a great improvement.

-Well, lots of characters return! The Dursleys, Moody, Kingsley, Umbridge, Oliver Wood, Angelina Johnson, Dobby, Kreacher, Lucius, Ollivanders, Fleur, Viktor Krum, Madam Maxime, Sirius and Harry's parents, Dumbledore, Voldemort (obviously), Rita Skeeter etc. Almost everyone returns.


dream_silently 17 hours ago
1.Nobody asked you about Bathlida Bagshot. So I do it - how this scene looks like?
2.There are a youngest versions of Snape/Lily/ Petunia in the Part 2 in flashbacks?
3. When we first see Dobby - how they introduce him (is it mention abou his kitchen work)?
4. When they are going to say anything about the Hallows and the famous logo for the first time ?
5. Are they planning a crowd of house elfs in the battle in Part 2?


-The Bathilda scene is one of the creepiest. They have filmed it and I've got to tell you the way the snake appears is shocking. There is some clever camera work (kudos to Serra again) where we see Bathilda completely still and frozen and Harry is slightly scared and backs off. Nagini's hiss is heard and Bathilda's body falls below at the stairwell and Nagini attacks. Very clever camera work. I mean, you get it that the snake came from her body but you don't see it appearing from her neck. There is clever editing. When Nagini appears, Bathilda's body is falling in the shadows.

-No I am afraid you won't see little Petunia. But Kloves is still working on few parts of the script but I highly doubt they'll change this. But we see Snape and Lily as small kids and teens. Though these scenes are extremely brief. There is a new one where both of them are adults, though. The main memories have to do with Snape and Dumbledore. Snape's part is amazingly emotional and I am 100% sure that Rickman will be breathtaking.

-Dobby appears very early at the Burrow. Yes he does mention he works at Hogwarts. It's a sweet moment. They meet Dobby AGAIN at the countryside.

-No house elves in the climax. But Kreacher is there. :)

-Oh the DH logo. It appears very early and rumor has it the logo will be used in Part 2's intro.
dream_silently 16 hours ago
Gwenyth,
this is wrong. The only same thing is the fact that the film ends with the sunset.

blackvenom,

The Silver Doe scene:

Harry follows the Doe in the forest (he has seen it once more before) and goes to the lake(which is a big and completely frozen). Harry has to swim to the middle of the lake and he does so. Then he has to dive in the depths where the sword lies. When Harry is diving in the deep, he can't move and breathe from the cold and Ron comes and saves him. It's a longer sequence than the one in the book. Oh I forgot to mention that before all that, we see 4 Death Eaters flying over the snowy forests. Foreshadowing. Well Harry is saved and he and Ron embrace each other. Then Ron destroys the Horcrux. This moment is very emotional and intense. Ron has to face Harry and Hermione's 'smokey ghosts' who approach to kiss. He hears Voldemort's voice and his eyes turn red. He screams and cries and finally smashes the Locket. He calms down and tells Harry how difficult it was for him to be alone into the wild. As they walk back to find Hermione they talk about Voldemort and the Death Eaters. This is the time where Ron reveals Voldemort's name is Tabooed. They suddenly hear some distant noise. They turn around and run behind some trees with their wand lit. Masked Death Eaters patrol the forest. Harry and Ron are running but the DEs see their shadows and fire spells. Ron protects Harry from the spells and Harry fires back. Another DE is flying over the trees and Harry shouts at Hermione and the three of them gather and apparate just on time when the DEs fly in a maelstrom formation towards the trees surrounding the Trio.


Yes there is a new action sequence at Diagon Alley where Kreacher, Harry, Ron and Hermione chase Mandungus in the Knockturn Alley. But the DEs are there and there is a longer chase in the alleys. We see Borgin and Burkes again which has become the DEs base let's say. It's a cool foreshadowing scene because we see masked Death Eaters protecting Gringotts too.
dream_silently 16 hours ago
dream_loudly,

yes the Ron/Hermione relationship is well developed. No worries.

And yes Snape's love for Lily is perfectly established, I think. Especially during Snape's confession to Dumbledore.
dream_silently 16 hours ago
The logo that will appear in the film hasn't been made yet.
This may be a trailer one but I highly doubt it's the same that you'll see in the film's opening.

I work in the art department.

There are many additions but they're not overwhelming. Actually there are many brief scenes that are new. Very few are completely new and long.

Well about the running time: around 2 hours and a half. It's the usual pattern. Don't expect a 3-hour film though. That's not going to happen. Especially now that the book is split in 2 parts.



Gwenyth,

There are very few scenes with Harry and Ginny I am afraid. But I'm sure you'll love the Fiendfyre scene in the battle of Hogwarts where they are together and try to save each other.
dream_silently 15 hours ago
No Harry and Hermione go to Godric's Hollow alone.

It's Hogsmeade. They go to Hogsmeade in Pt. 1 but they don't meet Aberforth. This is a completely new scene. They try to go to Hogwarts after Ron's return and before the trip to Xeno Lovegood. The reason they go has to do with Ginny and Snape. I won't say anything else. But if you want to be spoiled I can tell you more. They go to Hogsmeade again in Pt.2 though where they meet Aberforth.
Do you remember when I told you that they apparate to mountains close to Hogwarts? Well after few scenes they try to go to Hogsmeade but they fail to enter the Hogwarts Grounds. That's one of the completely new and long scenes that shouldn't be spoiled for you I guess.
dream_silently 14 hours ago
Hi DemonStar,

thanks for your wishes I really appreciate that.

Oh the Godric's Hollow scene is truly beautiful. I think it's the moment where Dan truly delivers. Radcliffe is a good actor and in my opinion, he was very entertaining and more mature in 'Phoenix' and 'Prince'.
But in Deathly Hallows he is magnificent. They haven't filmed the Forest scenes at the end of Pt.2 but they've filmed the graveyard scene in Godric's Hollow and it's one of the saddest moments.They are not polyjuiced, no. You see all their emotions and especially Harry's. Before these scenes, there were two nice scenes between Harry and Hermione-the one talking about their friendship and Ron and the other talking about Voldemort and going to Godric's Hollow. During the graveyard scene their friendship is tighter than ever. You feel they are best friends and Hermione embraces Harry in the end. It's a beautiful scene. I am definitely sure you'll love it.


The Lily's death flashback is different-much different than the book one. But it's long enough and powerful enough.
dream_silently 14 hours ago
I don't want to spoil it for you but I can tell you this:

She hears Voldemort telling her that all her loved ones will be gone and that 'he' (Ron obviously) will be gone. It has to do with death. Hermione,though,destroys the Cup quickly and after it's been destroyed she loses consciousness and Ron holds her. It's a moment that shows how much Hermione cares for Ron. They have already kissed, though. The entire Chamber of Secrets is a Ron/Hermione moment for all their fans.
dream_silently 14 hours ago
Do you think that the script of DH is better than HBP?
Are Ginny, Neville and Luna punished?
Is the quibbler important in the first film? And the prophet?


Sopho,

I really liked the Prince script,to be honest. It is my favourite film along with 'Azkaban'. I think that both DH parts will top them, though.
And yes the script includes 80% of what's been in the book. And they've added their things that just make both parts better.

Yes Ginny,Neville and Luna are punished. There is also a scene where the Death Eaters attack Hagrid, who runs in the depths of the Forbidden Forest.

Yeah. Hermione gets the Quibbler regularly and says that Xeno is the only one who supports them risking his own life. The Daily Prophet is OK in the beginning because it supports Harry and Scrimgeour but afterwards it bashes Harry and supports Voldemort. There are also wanted posters of the Trio. You'll see lots of them in Diagon Alley, Hogsmeade and in the Daily Prophet.
dream_silently 14 hours ago
nessie,

well Voldemort says exactly the same things to Ron BUT Ron doesn't do anything which helps Voldemort's soul create Harry and Hermione's 'ghosts'. Voldemort says how she doesn't like him at all etc. It's almost like the book's scene. Now, Voldemort tells Hermione that Ron doesn't feel the way she does and that he'll be gone-all her loved ones will be gone. And she shouldn't have faith. And at that moment, something 'evil' is about to appear (possible Ron's ghost?) but Ron shouts at her that she should destroy it and Hermione screams and stabs the Horcrux with the Basilisk fang. So she destroys it quickly. And as the Cup is being destroyed, she cries and loses consciousness and Ron runs next to her and embraces her.
dream_silently 13 hours ago
Hermione's scene with her parents is very short but it's emotional.
Part One is going to feel very real. Actually it won't feel like a Harry Potter film at all in most parts.

Fran,

well this is one of the scenes that I don't know much.
I know that it begins over Little Whinging, the air battles continue over towns and London, then the chase happens on the ground before they fly again and battle in the countryside. All of them reach the reeds surrounding the Burrow and the DEs hit on the protective sphere. Harry and Hagrid are the first to arrive and Harry sets off to find the others; this scene is similar to the Burrow Attack in 'Prince'. I won't reveal more but overall, the SEVEN POTTERS sequence will be very good.
dream_silently 13 hours ago
Well she's at the Dursleys. She's featured in the 7 Potters fight and she also has lots of scenes at the Burrow.
Then she's mostly at the Battle of Hogwarts. I must tell you that we see her battle with Bellatrix and it's going to be a very cool scene.
dream_silently 10 hours ago
dude,

You won't see anything shocking don't worry. The smoke formation of the ghosts is supposed to be Harry's skin. So it'll have to show muscles and...skin in general. The ghost has to seem more masculine and powerful. That's it.

Longbottom,

Yes Hogwarts is going to be really destroyed (not the entire castle but 60-70% of it)
Neville is really beaten up yeah. He's got many bruises and scatches. The burning Sorting Hat is in the script. No worries.


Lily,

Greyback attacks Ginny during the Battle of Hogwarts. He attacks Bill very early in the film during the fight sequences in the air.


Chester,

well Tonks is there when they all gather at the Burrow reeds and realise Moody is dead. There is a big talk scene at the living room where all of them have gathered. Then we see her and Molly talking and she's almost everywhere. Then she's at the Wedding BUT at the same time, she's doing some patrolling around the house along with other members of the Order. Finally she is fighting the Death Eaters when they attack.

Bereski,

I just saw the sneak peek.
It's for both films that's why Shell Cottage is in the beginning of the teaser.
The quality is pretty bad but all these London scenes in the busy road and Ron hiding behind the corner have great cinematography. Now that was Godric's Hollow scene where they find the Peverell grave. As I told you, they are NOT polyjuiced. As I've mentioned, it works better because we really see Harry's emotions and that's what they're aiming for.
dream_silently 10 hours ago
Yes Tonks and Lupin die together and we see their deaths.

No. The film begins with flashbacks to the Cave and Dumbledore's death scenes. The script says:

we hear Dumbledore screaming'Kill me!' and then we hear Harry shouting 'Snape! He trusted you!' and we see shots of the Cave sequence fading to Dumbledore VS Draco on the Astronomy Tower and it cuts to Snape killing Dumbledore, Dumbledore falling and Bellatrix making the Dark Mark. The camera travels inside the Dark Mark and we cut to the Ministry where Scrimgeour gives his speech. This fades to multiple attacks of Death Eaters to London and magical places (attack in Hogsmeade,Diagon Alley and they eventually invade Hogwarts along with Dementors). Then it cuts to the Malfoy Manor meeting, which is pretty much the same as in the book. Just Yaxley is not with Snape. Voldemort and Snape discuss the Order's plans and Charity is indeed killed. Then it cuts to Dumbledore,Snape and Voldemort shots and Harry wakes up scared and shocked. From that point, the Dursleys departing and the 7 Potters scenes begin.

But the beginning might change. Yates discusses about the change of these scenes' row or the addition of Dumbledore's white tomb.

dream_silently 5 hours ago
I told you I'll try to post the Hollow artwork.
Look I work in the art department. It's risky for me to do so and by telling you all these things I know it's completely reasonable that you need proof.
If I were you I would demand some proof too.
I'll try to do my best.

Now, if you don't believe me it's OK.


Miradon thanks for the support but it's alright.
I think I've said enough.
Goodnight. :)

It's a bit hard to decipher some posts without the one he/she was responding to, but I figured having 'em all in one place was convenient.

Plus, reading through all of those posts on that thread was too much work, so I think this might make it easier...just the important stuff :p

About the Sneak Peek, I think that guy might have got an early US DVD (I've read that some smaller shops already have it out! :whistle:), so US is probably likely to get the preview on DVD, but from the countries that already have the DVD, they did not get it - probably so they could make a grand trailer in the next few weeks (?)

Some of the stuff on that persons site does sound really cool. He is really detailed about scenes we know nothing about and sort of iffy about things we do know about. I have been saying for quite awhile that the Harry and Hermione will be unpolyjuiced for the Godric's Hollow scene, so i am not sure if that proves anything.

There was some interesting things in there about Ron and Hermione and also about Snape. I like the idea that when Hermione tries to destroy the cup it says the same words or similar words that the locket horcrux had said to Ron. I am just so leery of things like this.

I thought I'd point out his answer to what we've all been wondering about this last week-

dream_silently 11 hours ago
dude,

You won't see anything shocking don't worry. The smoke formation of the ghosts is supposed to be Harry's skin. So it'll have to show muscles and...skin in general. The ghost has to seem more masculine and powerful. That's it.

That's even less then I expected based on Yates comments :lol:

Oh, and here is what he said about that scene in general-

The Horcrux scene will be really frightening. The Harry/Hermione kiss has been shot months ago and they'll be like black/grey ghosts with red eyes approaching to kiss. Voldemort's voice will be heard, too. And Rupert did an amazing job (he was trembling and turning into evil and crying at the same time)

I'd like to see Emma show some skin too...but if you ask me, it sounds awesome :cool: That scene is gonna be frightening and emotional...

I thought this was interesting what he said here about dobby that he may be in more scenes, but that is something that we have thought based on what someone said in an interview.

Dobby has a few more scenes in Pt.1 (at the Burrow and another time while Harry is into the wild) and all his scenes are very cute. He is very lovable and nice and that's why his death will be really sad. That's the main reason they think about putting his death in the finale of Pt.1. They want to keep all his scenes in one film and not put his death to the opening of Pt.2 because the audience may not feel as sad as they should.

I think everything about Ron and Hermione and the silver doe scene and the chamber of secrets scene sounds good. We just have no way to validate any of it though i sort of like it.

You will really like Ron's own journey after he leaves Harry and Hermione. There is a scene with him and the Snatchers and we see him being alone in the countryside and we see all the mysterious things with the Deluminator. When Harry sees the Silver Doe (the second time because he sees it in another forest before and as he approaches it disappears) we see a shadow. It's all very dark and intense but it's Ron. The Horcrux scene will be really frightening. The Harry/Hermione kiss has been shot months ago and they'll be like black/grey ghosts with red eyes approaching to kiss. Voldemort's voice will be heard, too. And Rupert did an amazing job (he was trembling and turning into evil and crying at the same time). As they leave, they hear strange voices and DEs apparate in the distant trees. They run and hide. The DEs fly in black smoke and they're all masked. Harry and Ron find Hermione and they apparate just when the DEs create some sort of a maelstrom around the place. As they apparate on a snowy mountain, they see Hogwarts far far away behind some mountains. It has a very nostalgic feel. Hermione gets all crazy with Ron but things get better when they begin traveling again.

Harry follows the Doe in the forest (he has seen it once more before) and goes to the lake(which is a big and completely frozen). Harry has to swim to the middle of the lake and he does so. Then he has to dive in the depths where the sword lies. When Harry is diving in the deep, he can't move and breathe from the cold and Ron comes and saves him. It's a longer sequence than the one in the book. Oh I forgot to mention that before all that, we see 4 Death Eaters flying over the snowy forests. Foreshadowing. Well Harry is saved and he and Ron embrace each other. Then Ron destroys the Horcrux. This moment is very emotional and intense. Ron has to face Harry and Hermione's 'smokey ghosts' who approach to kiss. He hears Voldemort's voice and his eyes turn red. He screams and cries and finally smashes the Locket. He calms down and tells Harry how difficult it was for him to be alone into the wild. As they walk back to find Hermione they talk about Voldemort and the Death Eaters. This is the time where Ron reveals Voldemort's name is Tabooed. They suddenly hear some distant noise. They turn around and run behind some trees with their wand lit. Masked Death Eaters patrol the forest. Harry and Ron are running but the DEs see their shadows and fire spells. Ron protects Harry from the spells and Harry fires back. Another DE is flying over the trees and Harry shouts at Hermione and the three of them gather and apparate just on time when the DEs fly in a maelstrom formation towards the trees surrounding the Trio.


She hears Voldemort telling her that all her loved ones will be gone and that 'he' (Ron obviously) will be gone. It has to do with death. Hermione,though,destroys the Cup quickly and after it's been destroyed she loses consciousness and Ron holds her. It's a moment that shows how much Hermione cares for Ron. They have already kissed, though. The entire Chamber of Secrets is a Ron/Hermione moment for all their fans.

Well Voldemort says exactly the same things to Ron BUT Ron doesn't do anything which helps Voldemort's soul create Harry and Hermione's 'ghosts'. Voldemort says how she doesn't like him at all etc. It's almost like the book's scene. Now, Voldemort tells Hermione that Ron doesn't feel the way she does and that he'll be gone-all her loved ones will be gone. And she shouldn't have faith. And at that moment, something 'evil' is about to appear (possible Ron's ghost?) but Ron shouts at her that she should destroy it and Hermione screams and stabs the Horcrux with the Basilisk fang. So she destroys it quickly. And as the Cup is being destroyed, she cries and loses consciousness and Ron runs next to her and embraces her.

He also mentions the dance scene and he puts it before Godric's hollow and not at the wedding and they do talk about Ron. I still think that sounds very strange, but i could see Harry trying to comfort Hermione when they are alone and she is upset about Ron. Harry is aware that she likes Ron, i mean they talked about it a couple of times during HBP.

Also the person who did that weird set report from HP4U also said that Harry sort of comes in to the wedding at the last moment with Lupin, so that seems correct.

The dance scene is a cute moment. It happens before the Godric's Hollow moments. Both Harry and Hermione are devastated and they don't talk to each other. harry is thoughtful, Hermione cries or sits alone in the countryside and at the same time, we see Death Eaters following them. During these moments we see lots of Voldemort's quest and Hogwarts scenes. After some time, they are together and Harry tries to cheer her up and they have a quick dance (it's not a dance actually. Just few moves and turns and they laugh and talk about Ron).
Hermione doesn't dance with Harry at the wedding. Actually Harry comes late and when he comes, very few minutes later, the DEs attack.

The weirdest thing to me about what is written in this is that he talks about them showing scenes at Hogwarts throughout Part 1. Though what he talks about is mostly showing Snape watching death eaters come into the school and such and not a lot of scenes with the DA or the secondary trio, Neville, Luna, and Ginny. The thing is that the Yates guy said that they wouldn't be near Hogwarts for Part 1 and the actors who play Luna and Neville said that they weren't really in the first one much, but then again if the scenes are mostly of Snape they wouldn't be in them.

The thing that seems the most consistent is the idea that they are always being hunted by death eaters. I remember a scene in a trailer park where the trio is attacked and we know about the snatcher chase scene. I also feel like in some interviews we sort of get the impression that they will be always under attack, so that seems consistent with those reports.

I just don't know what to think.

AH. the sneak peak looks amazing, i love the overall feel of this trailer. i love the way it was filmed too, the whole "road movie" description had me weary but it looks amazing.

i think the chase scene in the forest looks thrilling, theres not much shown but it looks really intense, and its nice to see harry actually fighting with his wand. i'm glad there's blood on hermione's hands, they aren't holding back like they did in sectumsempra in HBP, hopefully! i love the way the london scenes looked too, it was such a high stress situation. i really can't wait to see this movie.

I thought this was interesting what he said here about dobby that he may be in more scenes, but that is something that we have thought based on what someone said in an interview.

Dobby has a few more scenes in Pt.1 (at the Burrow and another time while Harry is into the wild) and all his scenes are very cute. He is very lovable and nice and that's why his death will be really sad. That's the main reason they think about putting his death in the finale of Pt.1. They want to keep all his scenes in one film and not put his death to the opening of Pt.2 because the audience may not feel as sad as they should.

So, they are still toying with the idea of placing Dobby's funeral in Part 1? :whistle: I hope they do...

So, they are still toying with the idea of placing Dobby's funeral in Part 1? :whistle: I hope they do...

He says that they are and Yates did say that it wasn't set and stone. I never really liked the idea of splitting after Dobby's death. I always thought that was way too late in the game and Dobby's death was never really that sad for me, so it doesn't seem like a good climax to me.

He is right though it would keep all of Dobby's scenes in one film. The thing is that the emotion of the scene, for me, was always in Harry's reaction and the fact that Hermione had just been tortured and not that Dobby had just died. I guess different deaths bother different people.

I like the idea of splitting after Dobby's death, because i do think dobby needs to have his entire character arc all in one film. it would be silly to have all his "cuteness" in the first film and then have him die right at the beginning of the 2nd, before the audience can feel attached to him again.

So, they are still toying with the idea of placing Dobby's funeral in Part 1? I hope they do...

I'm hoping they do too.
I think the snatcher's chase scene IS a good climax.
But a two part climax would be even better :D
The two parts being the chase scene and malfoy manor.

I'm hoping they do too.
I think the snatcher's chase scene IS a good climax.
But a two part climax would be even better :D
The two parts being the chase scene and malfoy manor.

Yeah, and Malfoy Manor sounds like...WOW

The Malfoy Manor and Shell Cottage scenes have been filmed. The Manor battle will be MUCH MUCH bigger than what you actually expect. The set is HUGE. It's actually like a big castle and battles will take place in many places and towers.

If all this stuff is true I don't think anyone will be able to complain about a "lack of action" :no: :p If you notice all these battles (some that weren't even in the book) they are really amping it up! :wow: Well, I'm not complaining. Makes up for lack of battle in OotP and the omission from HBP. But really, isn't there going to be enough with just the Battle of Hogwarts? :lol: That sounds like it's gonna really epic/awesome...

They were filming the battle for 4 entire weeks and they haven't filmed more than 20% of it. It's going to be huge. And I'm talking about the BATTLE. Not the limbo scene with Harry and Dumbledore or the Pensieve or the forest confrontation with Voldemort.
They have shot action scenes in the two main courtyards, in the Great Hall and the Entrance Hall and Moving Staircases. The Great Hall is really damaged. Finally, the Fiendfyre sequence was filmed in August and it's going to be the most amazing way to prepare the audience for the war scenes.

I'm hoping it is all true. If it is we are looking at a truly suspenseful and thrilling film, which sounds visually stunning.

I'm hoping it is all true. If it is we are looking at a truly suspenseful and thrilling film, which sounds visually stunning.

Yeah, I just hope they aren't going TOO overboard. I mean Transformers 2 is a perfect example of "more/bigger is not always better" :lol: ;)

Yeah, I just hope they aren't going TOO overboard. I mean Transformers 2 is a perfect example of "bigger is not always better"

True, that had so much action, it was painful to watch.
But I think the difference in DH is the action is always different. For example the Silver Doe action sequence will have a completely different feel to it than the Seven Potters. And the MoM will feel completely different to the chase in the forest.
With Transformers 2, it was all robots exploding and the same thing over and over again, that it just got too much.

True, that had so much action, it was painful to watch.
But I think the difference in DH is the action is always different. For example the Silver Doe action sequence will have a completely different feel to it than the Seven Potters. And the MoM will feel completely different to the chase in the forest.
With Transformers 2, it was all robots exploding and the same thing over and over again, that it just got too much.

Good point. Yeah, I enjoyed it but it was "sensory overload" and as you said, too much of the same thing. I prefer the first Transformers.

Anyways, I'll pull out what he/she had to say about the other action sequences-

...they are about to begin the shooting of the Ministry of Magic battle which will be epic. Imelda Staunton comes back and there will be three parts of the battle: first, duels with Umbridge and Death Eaters, then a Dementors chase (which will be quite scary) and finally a really intense showdown in the Atrium (which is completely DIFFERENT. Black tiles, very low silver light, rock formations and a very murky atmosphere.)

the Seven Potters battle takes place mostly in the air. Little Whinging, London downtown, English countryside and the exterior of the Burrow. When they all reach the reeds surrounding the Burrow there will be a chase inside the fields and marshes, similar to the HBP one. The Death Eaters will try to reach the house but there is going to be a gigantic protective sphere protexting the house from them. The entire sequence is going to be one of the best action sequences of the series (until Part 2)

Furthermore, another battle happens right after the wedding. The protective sphere is smashed and the duels will be massive (wait for great action scenes with Greyback,Lucius, Bellatrix, Lupin, Tonks and the Weasleys)

The cafe attack is really fast-paced and intense. I think you'll like it.
There is a scene where Regulus and Kreacher go to the crystal island to get the Locket. The inferi are featured there. There are thoughts of adding them to the Battle but it's unlikely.

Furthermore, the Death Eaters will come to that place after Ron saves Harry and destroys the Locket.There will be a brief battle inside the snowy forest before they meet Hermione and apparate to a snowy mountain.

There will be a massive fight scene but the trio will be captured and transported to Malfoy Manor

personally, though, I think that the best action scene will be the Gringotts break-in. The artwork is mind-blowing.

Yes there is a new action sequence at Diagon Alley where Kreacher, Harry, Ron and Hermione chase Mandungus in the Knockturn Alley. But the DEs are there and there is a longer chase in the alleys. We see Borgin and Burkes again which has become the DEs base let's say. It's a cool foreshadowing scene because we see masked Death Eaters protecting Gringotts too.

And just his/her overall thoughts about all the battles and such... :)

Actually some people may get angry because of the many new battle sequences but the entire film will have multiple 'climaxes' let's say. There are very few calm moments and these moments are full of emotions and loneliness. 80% is this ultimate sense of danger and this endless chase in various places.

I am getting too exited for this movie! Its gonna be totally EPIC(and more)!

I don't think that the action scenes would be too much because I think that the movie will be filled with emotion, and the will to survive and protect each other.

Aaaaah I keep watching the sneak peek over and over! It's too exciting!

I agree with whoever said that this trailer has a special atmosphere about it, with the absence of dramatic music and explosions. It is very dark, and very amazing.

No house elves in the battle of Hogwarts :( And why, why is it so few magical creatures in the final battle? It should be a magical fight.
It seems as though we get another Burrow attack. Obviously that's less repetitive than having two battles at Hogwarts. I don't see why they are adding all those action scenes that weren't in the book. I'd rather liked some more action in HBP. Lots of explosions, fights and running doesn't automatically make great films. Narnia: Prince Caspian is a good example of that. I just hope the plot doesn't take a backseat to it, but seeing how much they have cut down on Snape's memories, it seems to do so. It's, however, too early to judge, but so far I am disappointed by Kloves. They should have obtained another screenwriter in my opinion.

No house elves in the battle of Hogwarts And why, why is it so few magical creatures in the final battle? It should be a magical fight.
It seems as though we get another Burrow attack. Obviously that's less repetitive than having two battles at Hogwarts. I don't see why they are adding all those action scenes that weren't in the book. I'd rather liked some more action in HBP. Lots of explosions, fights and running doesn't automatically make great films. Narnia: Prince Caspian is a good example of that. I just hope the plot doesn't take a backseat to it, but seeing how much they have cut down on Snape's memories, it seems to do so. It's, however, too early to judge, but so far I am disappointed by Kloves. They should have obtained another screenwriter in my opinion.

I would have to completely disagree. In the nicest way possible, haha :D
It would be nice for a few magical creatures to be in the fight, but I'm personally more interested in the wizards and witches defending themself and others, and the emotional impact.
And cutting down Snape's story I think might be an advantage to the film. I think they could sum up the important details without going into a half an hour flashback.
But that's just my opinion, and I do love hearing all of yours :)

Not sure how I feel about this...

I don't know if fans will like it because it's a much longer fight. The Great Hall is completely smashed and there is no ceiling-just ruins. We see all the towers surrounding them and the dark red sun is rising behind the gigantic black and grey clouds (because of the fire and the ashes and the storm). It's going to be epic. Harry and Voldemort exchange more spells. They collide or are blocked from protective spheres. The final moment is so intense that everyone goes away because of how fierce the confrontation is. I think you'll love it. But maybe not. Imagine the Great Hall set without the tables, without the ceiling, without half its walls and all its windows completely smashed. All the ruins are on the floor and we see the deep red/black-grey cloudy sky over Voldemort and Harry and all the half destroyed towers and bridges surrounding them. I think it's a great improvement.

Really, I'd rather they just left it as in the book. I want a "battle of words" so to speak and then the AK that backfires...and it's over

Why add spells? It seems like overkill if you ask me, considering all the other battles and stuff we're going to have. Plenty of action... :relax:

Not sure how I feel about this...



Really, I'd rather they just left it as in the book. I want a "battle of words" so to speak and then the AK that backfires...and it's over

Why add spells? It seems like overkill if you ask me, considering all the other battles and stuff we're going to have. Plenty of action... :relax:

Because that would be anti-climatic? :shrug: I don't know either. It sounds awesome but I don't get how Harry can match Voldemort's magical skills, considering he wasn't able to fight the inferi and was completely owned by Snape in the previous innstallment...

I would have to completely disagree. In the nicest way possible, haha :D
It would be nice for a few magical creatures to be in the fight, but I'm personally more interested in the wizards and witches defending themself and others, and the emotional impact.
And cutting down Snape's story I think might be an advantage to the film. I think they could sum up the important details without going into a half an hour flashback.
But that's just my opinion, and I do love hearing all of yours :)

Perhaps you're right, but at least the centaurs should be fighting. I thought it would be smart to bring in some humour by having the house selves there, but considering they haven't played a huge role in the other films, I suppose it makes sense to cut them out.
I am a bit worried about Snape's memories because Yates totally loves flashbacks in films :eyebrows: Not!

I think that maybe the explanation behind that is that Harry is lready the master of the elder wand at that point so any of Volfy's spell wouldn't really work on him, so he is able to fight Voldy.

I think that maybe the explanation behind that is that Harry is lready the master of the elder wand at that point so any of Volfy's spell wouldn't really work on him, so he is able to fight Voldy.

Good point, but I'd still rather they not amp this up. The scene in the book would be exciting enough and no, it's not "anti-climactic" :relax:

Good point, but I'd still rather they not amp this up. The scene in the book would be exciting enough and no, it's not "anti-climactic"

I agree the talking showdown would have been sufficient enough. But i'll wait till after I see it to decide what I would have liked better.
But the scenery and the sky sound superb. Sounds like amazing cinematography.
And it mentions that everyone flee's the hall.
I'm thinking it could be alot of talking, a few spells thrown every now and then.
Then the AK and Expelliarmus hit, and join similar to GoF in the graveyard or Dumbledore and Voldemort in the MoM, which causes "shocks" in a way which causes the place to become an utter mess. Debris is thrown everywhere, the surrounding people leave. Then theres the massive ending.
And I have a feeling they'll do a cliche and have lets say 10 seconds of "I wonder who won" moment by having complete silence.
Alright, I'll stop ranting now, haha :D

So you live in Canada and actually watched and recorded that?

I see, I thought you just got them from elsewhere :lol: So were the bits of those 2 vids shown at seperate times? Cause I figured there was more to the first...the audio seemed cut off. Either that or it was just a preview of what's to come tonight. ET does like that all the time.

The interviews were the main part, the 3- and 4-second clips were the "Coming up..." parts.
I've decided against not uploading the third part. It's almost done, but there was no new set footage this time around because they decided to make it their first news story.

And yes, I actually recorded them.

Here's part 3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZGVtyG9QUA

One thing i like about what he is saying is that there is a lot of the trio fighting. I feel like we haven't hardly seen any of the kids fight in the films it is always the adults to the rescue and i am sick of that. I think i am still a little bitter about the battle being cut from the end of HBP, but i like that we may see a lot of the kids defending themselves throughout both DH.

No house elves in the battle of Hogwarts :( And why, why is it so few magical creatures in the final battle? It should be a magical fight.
It seems as though we get another Burrow attack. Obviously that's less repetitive than having two battles at Hogwarts. I don't see why they are adding all those action scenes that weren't in the book. I'd rather liked some more action in HBP. Lots of explosions, fights and running doesn't automatically make great films. Narnia: Prince Caspian is a good example of that. I just hope the plot doesn't take a backseat to it, but seeing how much they have cut down on Snape's memories, it seems to do so. It's, however, too early to judge, but so far I am disappointed by Kloves. They should have obtained another screenwriter in my opinion.

The thing is for me i want to be with all the kids in the end. I want to seem them fighting. Harry, Ron, and Hermione as well as Neville, Luna, and Ginny. I want to see Fred, George, and Percy and sort of all the Gryffindor's who have been with us since the beginning. My biggest worry is that they are going to be showing mostly Bellatrix and Tonks, Molly and Bellatrix, whomever and Lupin, and that will take away from us seeing the kids in action which is really what i want to see.


I don't know if fans will like it because it's a much longer fight. The Great Hall is completely smashed and there is no ceiling-just ruins. We see all the towers surrounding them and the dark red sun is rising behind the gigantic black and grey clouds (because of the fire and the ashes and the storm). It's going to be epic. Harry and Voldemort exchange more spells. They collide or are blocked from protective spheres. The final moment is so intense that everyone goes away because of how fierce the confrontation is. I think you'll love it. But maybe not. Imagine the Great Hall set without the tables, without the ceiling, without half its walls and all its windows completely smashed. All the ruins are on the floor and we see the deep red/black-grey cloudy sky over Voldemort and Harry and all the half destroyed towers and bridges surrounding them. I think it's a great improvement.

Really, I'd rather they just left it as in the book. I want a "battle of words" so to speak and then the AK that backfires...and it's over

Why add spells? It seems like overkill if you ask me, considering all the other battles and stuff we're going to have. Plenty of action... :relax:

This is consistent with what the Heyman guy said in an interview where there is 'more engagement' in the end.

There's still hope for a Shell Cottage/Dobby's burial split!!! :tu: I've been fighting for this split point since god knows when! :lol:

I really think during editing, they will realize it's the better split point. Starting off part two immediately in an action scene just won't work...You can point to the battle of hoth in Empire Strikes Back or the Rescue of Han Solo at the beginning of Return of the Jedi, but those scenes were set up earlier in the movie. We didn't just jump right into a scene we left off at the end of the last part. This is fine for TV but not for cinema.

The Dobby point is another good one. It's way more efficient and economical to re-introduce, build him up and kill him off all in one movie.

Lastly, Malfoy Manor sounds like a superior climax to running around woods...IMO.

What is this talk about cutting down Snape's memories? From what I gather, this art department person just said that Petunia was cut. S/he said we will still see Snape and Lily as children AND as teens, even if fleetingly. I think this is enough...as long as they establish Snape's love for Lily forming in childhood and continuing to his death, the film will have done it's job, IMO.

If all this stuff is true I don't think anyone will be able to complain about a "lack of action" :no: :p

Of course not. :) You can't possibly have a major blockbuster in a major franchise without sufficient action (by which I also mean stuff that moves the story forward, not just big bangs.) Yates seems to be doing exactly what I thought he would do for the two-parter ... inventing scenes and amping the source material up. :cool: Which, to me, is what his job is all about. :lol:

As long as the battles are tense and exciting and not too repetitious in style or whatever, I am not particularly worried. :)

What is this talk about cutting down Snape's memories? From what I gather, this art department person just said that Petunia was cut. S/he said we will still see Snape and Lily as children AND as teens, even if fleetingly. I think this is enough...as long as they establish Snape's love for Lily forming in childhood and continuing to his death, the film will have done it's job, IMO.

I agree. I never thought Petunia was that important anyways and well, they omitted the interaction with Dumbledore so it'd kinda be too late to throw in now. And the Lily stuff is still there...said it's just brief/to the point. Here's every mention I could find of the sequence...

-They are to shoot Snape's memories. I won't say anything but imagine the combination of the extraordinary special effects of the memories in HBP along with the extremely dark,ominous and emotional story that unfolds Snape's true identity. It's going to be an amazing sequence.

There are enough scenes with Snape and Dumbledore in Pt.2. No worries. Just not much stuff with Lily. There are fewer but really to-the-point scenes.

-No I am afraid you won't see little Petunia. But Kloves is still working on few parts of the script but I highly doubt they'll change this. But we see Snape and Lily as small kids and teens. Though these scenes are extremely brief. There is a new one where both of them are adults, though. The main memories have to do with Snape and Dumbledore. Snape's part is amazingly emotional and I am 100% sure that Rickman will be breathtaking.

And then just his/her personal opinion on the matter-

And yes Snape's love for Lily is perfectly established, I think. Especially during Snape's confession to Dumbledore.


BTW, which opening would you guys want? :) And by that I mean in what order would you place these...

5.It's a very dark opening. There are 4 scenes but they don't know which is going to be the really first one: the Malfoy Manor meeting, Death Eaters invade Hogwarts,Hogsmeade,Diagon Alley and Knockturn Alley, Rufus Scrimgeour gathers all Aurors and ministry officials to talk about Voldemort's ascending and a long flashback of Dumbledore's death sequence.

I like the sound of them all, but I'd prefer it start just like the book (Dark Lord Ascending) However, this is how it goes at the moment-

No. The film begins with flashbacks to the Cave and Dumbledore's death scenes. The script says:

we hear Dumbledore screaming'Kill me!' and then we hear Harry shouting 'Snape! He trusted you!' and we see shots of the Cave sequence fading to Dumbledore VS Draco on the Astronomy Tower and it cuts to Snape killing Dumbledore, Dumbledore falling and Bellatrix making the Dark Mark. The camera travels inside the Dark Mark and we cut to the Ministry where Scrimgeour gives his speech. This fades to multiple attacks of Death Eaters to London and magical places (attack in Hogsmeade,Diagon Alley and they eventually invade Hogwarts along with Dementors). Then it cuts to the Malfoy Manor meeting, which is pretty much the same as in the book. Just Yaxley is not with Snape. Voldemort and Snape discuss the Order's plans and Charity is indeed killed. Then it cuts to Dumbledore,Snape and Voldemort shots and Harry wakes up scared and shocked. From that point, the Dursleys departing and the 7 Potters scenes begin.

They are arguing about how hedwig dies at the end of the thread. One person says that person isn't real because they know he is lying about how hedwig dies.

Then it seems like he contradicts himself by saying first that:
Hedwig's death is quick and shocking. There is so much chaos that there is no moment to let Harry grieve.
At the Burrow, though, he is very silent at one point where they briefly try to discuss Hedwig.
I think that's all.
It'll feel bad because this is an owl, an animal. And the audience knows that Harry Potter is the guy with the glasses, the scar, the broomstick and the owl. So it's shocking. But it doesn't last. The focus is Moody's death, George's injury and Voldemort's future plans.
In my opinion, the Burrow scenes are some of the best in DH.

Then he writes at the end:

P.S. Hedwig dies in the Battle of Hogwarts. She attacks the Dementors and they suck out her soul.

I can't tell if he is being sarcastic or not at that point. It is the second to last post on the third page (http://www.harrypotterforum.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=1072&page=3).

PS. A person on imdb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0926084/board/flat/152805968?p=1) who is from the UK got his copy of the dvd and this is what he said about it:

Have got Half Blood Prince on bluray through the post today too from play.com. I live in the UK. Have seen Deathly Hallows sneak peek in sparkling HD now and it looks brilliant. Has an introduction from David Heyman and director David Yates and a bit of the filming of what I can only assume is Harry and Hermione's little dance in the tent after Ron has left.

This is the first time someone has mentioned a scene with Harry and Hermione dancing in the tent on the blu-ray. The news is a little wild the last 24 hours.

They are arguing about how hedwig dies at the end of the thread. One person says that person isn't real because they know he is lying about how hedwig dies.

Then it seems like he contradicts himself by saying first that:


Then he writes at the end:



I can't tell if he is being sarcastic or not at that point. It is the second to last post on the third page (http://www.harrypotterforum.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=1072&page=3).

Yeah, I was just reading the thread myself. :lol:

It sounds incredibly silly but it seems to me like he's getting smart with the other person (so yes, sarcastic) but it's posssible they realize the jig is up cause they say they are done and not coming back. BTW, here is more info they revealed...but like be even more wary now-

dream_silently 6 hours ago edited
Chris,
I told you they do visit Hogsmeade in Part 1. They just don't meet Aberforth. The whole Aberforth story unfolds in Part 2.


They will not show the battle between Dumbledore and Grindelwald, no.
Yes the cafe fight is in the film. Actually you'll like the entire London chase, I think. When the Trio apparates, they start running in the streets. Then they feel they've been watched and try to calm down. We see DEs flying over London downtown and over the streets. The trio hides and changes clothes and as they exit, they recognize a Death Eater they've seen at the Burrow. They walk away quickly and go to the cafe shop where the Death Eaters attack.

Yes Snape's death is going to be graphic. There are no limits in both films.

Wilbo,
the Horcrux story is handled quite well I think. From what I know, Harry and Kreacher corner Mandungus in Diagon Alley/Knockturn Alley and learn that Umbridge has the real locket. Concerning the cup, Bellatrix is the one who asks Hermione if she stole the Gryffindor Sword and the Cup. Harry later realizes that this Cup must be a Horcrux and Hermione tells him that rumor has it, Hufflepuff's cup hasn't been found.This sets the entire story for the Ravenclaw Diadem, as well: Voldemort's interest in the ancient objects of the four founders of Hogwarts. Finally, Harry learns about the unknown Horcrux that's been hidden in Hogwarts and Nagini through Voldemort's mind who panicks when he learns the Locket, the Ring and the Cup have been destroyed. Ron and Hermione don't go with Harry to the Room of Requirement. They go to the Chamber of Secrets and Ginny guides Harry to the Room of Hidden Objects in order to find the tiara.


'Not my daughter, you *****' is in the film. Yes.

Yes there are many scenes where Harry 'reads' Voldemort's mind. These visions start very early in the film (at the Burrow) along with Harry's nightmares (Dumbledore,Snape and Sirius).

HalfBloodKing,

Xeno does discuss the Three Brothers tale and Hermione reads the book throughout all their days camping. The script doesn't have any flashback but there are pictures inside the book. I don't think they'll add any flashback but I can't be 100% sure. Until now, it's not in the script of Part 1.

Yes John Williams will possibly return but they are in negotiations with 2 other composers. But I think they've decided. I think they've said it'll be announced sometime these two forthcoming months.

The battle focuses mostly on wizards, yes. Though, we see spiders and Dementors. There aren't any house-elves and giants in the script but we've worked on giants approaching the castle in the art department. They are reluctant to include them, though. The Centaurs have very short scenes where they're inside the forest and shoot millions of arrows towards the Death Eaters at the end of the climax.
Yes there are some interesting scenes with the Dementors. We'll see Patronuses yes.


Now, I'll be working these weeks and I won't have much time to spend. I'll try to post an artwork sketch of Harry's parents' house or two parts of the script (possibly the Burrow and the Snatchers chase scenes). I've only got the Part 1 script-third draft. But I'm 90% sure they haven't changed almost anything. We've got very few parts of Part 2 (personally I've only got parts of Shell Cottage and Malfoy Manor and Snape's memories) becuase Steve Kloves is still working on parts of it.


Filming wraps in May.


I'll be gone for few days but I'll come back.
Bye.
dream_silently 5 hours ago
Almost all scenes with Dumbledore and Snape are in the film. They've cut most scenes with Petunia/Lily/Snape. The memories have a different structure in the film. It will work better cinematically.

The Ravenclaw plot is changed. Much changed. No we don't see Bloody Baron. This is one of the parts of the script that seems to change every time. Right now, the Grey Lady is not in the film. Harry learns that Voldemort's hidden the final Horcrux in Hogwarts, Hermione and Luna tell him about the Diadem being Ravenclaw's ancient object and Ginny remembers having hidden the HBP book next to something that seemed like a diadem. Ginny and Harry go to check, Draco,Goyle and Blaise attack, Harry realises this IS the Diadem and the Fiendfyre scene occurs.
dream_silently 2 hours ago
Hedwig's death is quick and shocking. There is so much chaos that there is no moment to let Harry grieve.
At the Burrow, though, he is very silent at one point where they briefly try to discuss Hedwig.
I think that's all.
It'll feel bad because this is an owl, an animal. And the audience knows that Harry Potter is the guy with the glasses, the scar, the broomstick and the owl. So it's shocking. But it doesn't last. The focus is Moody's death, George's injury and Voldemort's future plans.
In my opinion, the Burrow scenes are some of the best in DH.
I also forgot to mention that-do you remember in 'Prince' where the DEs tried to test Hogwarts defences hitting the protective sphere? The same thing happens again at the Burrow. One night, as Harry's still awake examining the Snitch, he hears distant sounds and takes his wand and sees few DEs trying to penetrate the Burrow grounds by testing its protection 'bubble'. And Harry sees few Death Eaters inside the reeds. It'll feel like they are all gathered at the house and few yards away, the Death Eaters are waiting for them.


Juno,
Maggie Smith doesn't have LOTS of scenes but she's got more screentime than in the book. And I mean that we see her at Hogwarts in Part 1, while we didn't in the book. She has began shooting scenes and she'll keep shooting until April/May.

About Hogwarts scenes in Part 1:
we don't see many scenes. Actually, in total, they will last less than 15 minutes altogether.
In the beginning there is this entire invasion of Death Eaters and Dementors, where Snape is watching from the Astronomy Tower and McGonagall,Slughorn,Flitwick,Sprout etc. watch from the Great Hall and courtyard.
Then we see Hogwarts Express going to Hogwarts with Death Eaters patrolling the train and the 'new' Trio talking in a compartment.
Then there are short scenes when they reach the Gates and the Death Eaters take the students away. The DEs are on the walls and grounds of Hogwarts. We have Snape's speech and then, if I remember correctly, the new Trio attempts to steal the Gryffindor Sword and Snape captures them. We also see Hagrid being attacked from DEs and fleeing to the woods and the new D.A. hiding in the new Room of Requirement. McGonagall has an argument with Snape,too and we also see a short montage of all teachers being controlled by DEs (a scene where Slughorn is followed by Death Eaters). That's pretty much everything. I forgot to mention the little glimpses of Draco, who is still very gloomy, lonely and sad. They keep his dark, silent and afraid profile in both DH parts. They are thinking of adding a few more, but they started shooting all this stuff in September so they may or they may not.
dream_silently 2 hours ago
Yes Draco is at Hogwarts.

Luna is at Malfoy Manor and, before that, we learn from Xeno that she's been trapped.


Bereski,

well they haven't changed something THAT much to make fans angry. I think that they have edited large parts of Snape's memories and they've also reduced the Dursleys scene to very few minutes. They have also cut major parts of the Trio's stay in the House of Black and that's all I think.
The other changes are many but small.

Completely big and important scene?
The Hogsmeade visit in Part 1 and the Knockturn Alley chase are new and important scenes,in my opinion. There are all these new scenes at Hogwarts, few skirmishes and fight scenes throughout the Trio's running into the wild and that's all.
dream_silently 2 hours ago
McGonagall has more screentime in Part 2 and I think she is featured as much as she was in Philosopher's Stone-which has the most of her.
There is indeed a confrontation with Snape yes. It's much different though. There are no daggers or armours. It's mostly spells and the use of the four elements- reminds a bit of the Dumbledore/Voldemort duel in 'Phoenix' but it's not as extravagant. Still, it will be very impressive.

Yeah, and Malfoy Manor sounds like...WOW



If all this stuff is true I don't think anyone will be able to complain about a "lack of action" :no: :p If you notice all these battles (some that weren't even in the book) they are really amping it up! :wow: Well, I'm not complaining. Makes up for lack of battle in OotP and the omission from HBP. But really, isn't there going to be enough with just the Battle of Hogwarts? :lol: That sounds like it's gonna really epic/awesome...

WOW!!! That all sounds so amazing. I am not sure they really needed to spice up the action at malfoy manor. I thought it was fine just the way it was written, especially since it centered on Dobby. I am not sure it needs multiple skirmishes in different parts of the manor.

The one area that I do hope they embellish on is harry's final confrontation with voldemort. I hope we get more dueling like in GOF and then expelliarmus.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic! :lol:

[SPOILER]The first part sounds like what I expected, if a little more. Hedwig's death gets just as much closure as it does in the novel. :tu: I suspect it's going to be heart-wrenching to see that iconic beautiful white owl die. :upset: {/SPOILER]

PS. A person on imdb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0926084/board/flat/152805968?p=1) who is from the UK got his copy of the dvd and this is what he said about it:

Have got Half Blood Prince on bluray through the post today too from play.com. I live in the UK. Have seen Deathly Hallows sneak peek in sparkling HD now and it looks brilliant. Has an introduction from David Heyman and director David Yates and a bit of the filming of what I can only assume is Harry and Hermione's little dance in the tent after Ron has left.

This is the first time someone has mentioned a scene with Harry and Hermione dancing in the tent on the blu-ray. The news is a little wild the last 24 hours.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic! :lol:

Yeah, well imagine...I would be so ticked if I actually worked for the films and someone accused me of being a fake. :grumble: Well, I guess we'll just have to wait 'til more is released and then compare to what's been said. Like with those script leaks, we could validate them before too long. Hmm, I wonder when some DH script might be leaked. Phoenix123 is still around, but I don't think he's posted on IMDB in a while. :shrug:

I know. I don't particularly understand why people call him a liar and a fake. Just keep asking him questions and if he is lying eventually he will contradict himself or something will be off compared to what we know. The question i want to know is does that mean all the information before he made comments about hedwig was correct and that was the first contradiction?

If so, we still got a lot of new information. You are right though, we are just going to have to wait and see.

He/She was being sarcastic. Hahahaha

Actually, he/she seems like a very clever person. He/She was obviosly 'playing' with this Emmafan in a very smart way. I wonder if Emmafan really knows something else about the films.


But he/she seems legit. I mean, come on this IMDb user confirmed the dance happens in the tent, we saw Harry and Hermione not being polyjuiced in Godric's Hollow...oh he/she said that Oliver Wood returns in DH. Could we search that and find out if this is true? Because I don't know anything about it.


How could Hedwig die if not during the 7 Potters scene?
Maybe she dies differently but they didn't make any comment on the way she dies. They just said: she dies, it's shocking and sudden, that's it. I wonder why Emmafan makes such a fuss about it.

Who knows huh? Maybe he's legit maybe not.

I know. I don't particularly understand why people call him a liar and a fake. Just keep asking him questions and if he is lying eventually he will contradict himself or something will be off compared to what we know. The question i want to know is does that mean all the information before he made comments about hedwig was correct and that was the first contradiction?

If so, we still got a lot of new information. You are right though, we are just going to have to wait and see.

I don't know. Maybe this person really does just have an overactive imagination, too much time on their hands, and derives some sort of sick pleasure from this :lol: :rolleyes: Then again, it could just be a mis-understanding. This is what they said, and yeah we'll know soon enough...

I hope that, while you see new glimpses, you'll realise that what I've said is true.


Still, if it's all true I found the following most intriguing-


John Williams indeed might return, but they are in negotiations with 2 other composers. I wonder who else? :hmm:

Emma and Rupert are not part of the RoR sequence. It's Harry and Ginny?! Well, this fits with what's been speculated about the Diadem...

All the returning characters, including as said above...Oliver Wood! :D I dunno why, but I really like his character :lol:

Snape's death will indeed be graphic and they aren't imposing limits for either film :tu:

"Not my daughter you *****!" is in, but I didn't expect otherwise :)

Possibly no Giants. Just Acromantula and Dementors...and Centaurs briefly

The choice of scenes added at Hogwarts...what about the tortures? :whistle:

McGonnagals duel with Snape is a bit reminiscent of DD vs. Voldy and mainly uses "the 4 elements" :cool:

Well he/she does seem far more genuine than Scoop. He also specifically reveals some pretty bold changes to the plot and new scenes, which I expect an actual film to have.

But who knows, some fake spoiler people spend a huge amount of effort in doing their jobs. I mean Scoop actually made a photoshopped Narcissa pic to give him more credibility...

Well he/she does seem far more genuine than Scoop. He also specifically reveals some pretty bold changes to the plot and new scenes, which I expect an actual film to have.

But who knows, some fake spoiler people spend a huge amount of effort in doing their jobs. I mean Scoop actually made a photoshopped Narcissa pic to give him more credibility...

True, and I can't believe it took us so long to figure out it was Claire Danes from Stardust! You know, if I'm not mistaken some of the HP fan sites (ie: Mugglenet, but that's not unusual, they are often in the clouds :p) STILL have that in their galleries as an image from HBP :lol:

Admittedly this person's last few posts about how they were going to post proof but not now and they aren't returning and all seem fishy and like they've been given a way out and have taken it...but I can understand the reaction if their crediblity has been falsely questioned... :shrug:

Admittedly this person's last few posts about how they were going to post proof but not now and they aren't returning and all seem fishy and like they've been given a way out and have taken it...but I could understand the frustration if their crediblity has been falsely scrutinized.

Actually, that's exactly the way Scoop reacted when someone found contradictions in his posts.:whistle:

Anyway, it's still an enjoyable read. Won't be surprised if these turn out to be true.

Actually, that's exactly the way Scoop reacted when someone found contradictions in his posts.:whistle:

Oh no...it's Scoop2.0- the improved, more informed, more deviant version! :scared: :lol: Although, the Scoop thing went on for weeks...or was it months before we discovered the truth? But then, really he didn't say anything about radical changes like this guy. Like you said, a lot of this has been bold statements. If they are fake, they are also seemingly someone who's read the books and is very up to date with film info.

anyway, it's still an enjoyable read. Won't be surprised if these turn out to be true.

Yep :lol: :tu:

As far as I remember, most of Scoop's reports would describe scenes as matching the book down to the same EXACT dialog in the novel, which is very rare for the films to do.

As far as I remember, most of Scoop's reports would describe scenes as matching the book down to the same EXACT dialog in the novel, which is very rare for the films to do.

Yeah, like everything he said was basically info that would please "purists"...whereas I think a lot of the DH info would be otherwise... :whistle:

The guy on IMDb refers to the epilogue finishing with the Hogwarts Express arriving at the school at sunset. Filming with the train did take place during September (I was there (http://www.ronrail.fotopic.net/c1757216.html)) but the shoot only lasted a day and a half and comprised of five runs. Because of the weather, they only managed to film on three or four of those. The location was Rannoch Moor (where they did that cool flying shot for HBP in 2007) and I was told by one of the studio chaps that they were filming exteriors for a scene with Neville, Luna and Ginny on the train. There were none of the actors present and the train was filled with local children from Fort William. The part they did the next morning featured a Deatheater suspended from a crane according to the guy I was speaking to, though I was unable to go back for that. There were various tape markings on the windows, which I was told were datums for post production CGI.

I would expect them to be shooting nearer Glenfinnan or Loch Eilt if the train is supposed to be arriving at Hogwarts - Glenfinnan Viaduct is the large arched viaduct seen in PS, CoS, PoA and GoF. I'm not aware of them filming at Kings Cross yet, assuming they will be using the actual location, so presumably there is more train stuff to be shot. That could tie in with the IMDb guy mentioning that they are returning to Scotland in the Spring.

Sorry for bleating on about the Hogwarts Express stuff, but it's the only bit of the production that I know anything concrete about!

Just in case this guy is legit I'll use spoiler tags.

I think it would be interesting to see a bit of what is going on at Hogwarts or when Ron goes off on his own. It would make things a bit different than the previous films, which largely stayed within Harry's POV. There were exceptions of course, most notably the GoF scene between DD, McGonagall and Snape. I would like to see the DA members, the professors, and Snape at Hogwarts. It would remind the audience that yes they are still a part of the story.

I like how the person said they were dealing with the Fiendfyre/RR scenes, and how Ginny is involved. It would give her something to do. I had expected they would use her to find the diadem, but I hadn't considered that she and Harry would be in the RR and both attacked by Crabbe, Goyle, Draco.

Snape's memories and his part in general. It sounds good, even if they did change the location of his death. It sounds like it will possibly be at the Astronomy tower, which is kind of cool, especially if Harry watches from below like he does in HBP. Nice parallel there and a clue to Snape's true allegiance. I think his memories sound OK too. Sounds like they kept the bulk of DD and Snape, and maybe added a bit to support the Snape/Lily portion even if they cut out a lot of Lily from the memories. If they kept a few of her it should be OK. Adding one when they are adults is a little weird, but it might be good to bridge the younger actors with the older actors... especially since the age difference is much greater than it is in the books.

IMHO, his story needs to have an emotional punch and if it doesn't then something went wrong. According to this guy it will be emotional... if he is to be believed.

The guy on IMDb refers to the epilogue finishing with the Hogwarts Express arriving at the school at sunset. Filming with the train did take place during September (I was there (http://www.ronrail.fotopic.net/c1757216.html)) but the shoot only lasted a day and a half and comprised of five runs. Because of the weather, they only managed to film on three or four of those. The location was Rannoch Moor (where they did that cool flying shot for HBP in 2007) and I was told by one of the studio chaps that they were filming exteriors for a scene with Neville, Luna and Ginny on the train. There were none of the actors present and the train was filled with local children from Fort William. The part they did the next morning featured a Deatheater suspended from a crane according to the guy I was speaking to, though I was unable to go back for that. There were various tape markings on the windows, which I was told were datums for post production CGI.

I would expect them to be shooting nearer Glenfinnan or Loch Eilt if the train is supposed to be arriving at Hogwarts - Glenfinnan Viaduct is the large arched viaduct seen in PS, CoS, PoA and GoF. I'm not aware of them filming at Kings Cross yet, assuming they will be using the actual location, so presumably there is more train stuff to be shot. That could tie in with the IMDb guy mentioning that they are returning to Scotland in the Spring.

Sorry for bleating on about the Hogwarts Express stuff, but it's the only bit of the production that I know anything concrete about!

We have no idea what the train shot at the end (if there really is one) will be like. It may even be an overhead brief shot that will require only CGI and no actual train filming (before the camera pans to Hogwarts).

I do love the idea of ending the film with a Hogwarts shot though.With good cinematography and music, it could be an amazing ending.

I'm also OK with the R/Hr kiss possibly happening in the Chamber of Secrets. I suspect that they must be trying pretty hard to avoid imitating the Will/Elizabeth kiss from PotC 3 (which looks really similar to the book description of R/Hr kiss).

Just in case this guy is legit I'll use spoiler tags.

I think it would be interesting to see a bit of what is going on at Hogwarts or when Ron goes off on his own. It would make things a bit different than the previous films, which largely stayed within Harry's POV. There were exceptions of course, most notably the GoF scene between DD, McGonagall and Snape. I would like to see the DA members, the professors, and Snape at Hogwarts. It would remind the audience that yes they are still a part of the story.

I like how the person said they were dealing with the Fiendfyre/RR scenes, and how Ginny is involved. It would give her something to do. I had expected they would use her to find the diadem, but I hadn't considered that she and Harry would be in the RR and both attacked by Crabbe, Goyle, Draco.

Snape's memories and his part in general. It sounds good, even if they did change the location of his death. It sounds like it will possibly be at the Astronomy tower, which is kind of cool, especially if Harry watches from below like he does in HBP. Nice parallel there and a clue to Snape's true allegiance. I think his memories sound OK too. Sounds like they kept the bulk of DD and Snape, and maybe added a bit to support the Snape/Lily portion even if they cut out a lot of Lily from the memories. If they kept a few of her it should be OK. Adding one when they are adults is a little weird, but it might be good to bridge the younger actors with the older actors... especially since the age difference is much greater than it is in the books.

IMHO, his story needs to have an emotional punch and if it doesn't then something went wrong. According to this guy it will be emotional... if he is to be believed.


Good idea about the possible new location for Snape's death but how could Voldemort be up on the tower if the whole point of the battle is to keep the death eaters and Voldemort out while Harry looks for the horcrux? That would defeat the whole purpose if Voldemort and Snape could so casually appear in the castle...

Good idea about the possible new location for Snape's death but how could Voldemort be up on the tower if the whole point of the battle is to keep the death eaters and Voldemort out while Harry looks for the horcrux? That would defeat the whole purpose if Voldemort and Snape could so casually appear in the castle...

Probably Voldemort managed to penetrate the castle at the last moment, but decided to order a ceasefire and retreat to give Harry a chance to come to him instead? (thus reducing the risk & trouble of searching for Harry through the castle):huh:

I could imagine Voldemort flying to the tower after all the protections are destroyed and meeting Snape there. He expreeses his concern about actually confronting Harry like in the book, then kills Snape and makes an announcement that he can take over the school at any time but he would give Harry an opportunity to come and meet him in the forest. Something like that.

Good idea about the possible new location for Snape's death but how could Voldemort be up on the tower if the whole point of the battle is to keep the death eaters and Voldemort out while Harry looks for the horcrux? That would defeat the whole purpose if Voldemort and Snape could so casually appear in the castle...

I know. I was thinking the same thing last night, but that's what I was gathering from what he was posting about the Astronomy tower set and Snape up at that set in Part I. Not sure where else would be interesting enough for the guy to be saying it is a good choice... unless maybe the office? Nah. That would be weird. Dunno.

Oh and btw Crabbe has been cut from the movie unfortunately since Jamie Waylett, the actor who plays him was caught growing drugs at his home. :whistle: So it's going to be Malfoy, Goyle and Zabini in the movie.

Yeah, I can't think of any other interesting place either....The tower would be awesome but it just wouldn't make sense in the plot..

We have no idea what the train shot at the end (if there really is one) will be like. It may even be an overhead brief shot that will require only CGI and no actual train filming (before the camera pans to Hogwarts).

Indeed. I wondered if they would use footage from PS for this. It would be an interesting way of tying the two ends of the series together. It's years since I've seen PS though so I can't remember if there's any shots that might fit the bill.

I do love the idea of ending the film with a Hogwarts shot though.With good cinematography and music, it could be an amazing ending.

Seconded!

Oh I most definitely think the movie should end with the train leaving for Hogwarts. That would be perfect, IMHO.

Oh I most definitely think the movie should end with the train leaving for Hogwarts. That would be perfect, IMHO.

I concur! :tu: I actually imagined the movie ending this way in my head with Ablus Severus waving his family goodbye and cut to the train approaching Hogwarts.

I concur! :tu: I actually imagined the movie ending this way in my head with Ablus Severus waving his family goodbye and cut to the train approached Hogwarts.

That would be cute. I like it. :)

Hey guys! There's SLIGHTLY (Note the word SLIGHTLY) better quaility version of the teaser out, you can see and hear a little bit better. I won't post it though, because as I recall it's leaked so we aren't supposed to post links. So I wont.

Hey guys! There's SLIGHTLY (Note the word SLIGHTLY) better quaility version of the teaser out, you can see and hear a little bit better. I won't post it though, because as I recall it's leaked so we aren't supposed to post links. So I wont.

I actually think it looks quite a bit better. :tu: I presume you are referring to the one now linked in the Snitchseeker article...from metacafe?

I actually think it looks quite a bit better. :tu: I presume you are referring to the one now linked in the Snitchseeker article...from metacafe?

Yeah, that one. I say SLIGHTLY because it's STILL recorded from a tv screen with a camera, so...yeah. Lol

Hmm, you know what I notice now I can see it more clearly? It's HARRY laying on the ground, not Ron :hmm:

Hmm, you know what I notice now I can see it more clearly? It's HARRY laying on the ground, not Ron :hmm:

I could tell it was Harry the first time I saw it. Either he is laying there, a little dazed from the apparation, or that is a totally different scene. At first I thought he was the one getting splinched, but then you see Ron on the ground and Harry assisting him as Hermione (with bloody hands) puts up the protection spells.

I could tell it was Harry the first time I saw it. Either he is laying there, a little dazed from the apparation, or that is a totally different scene. At first I thought he was the one getting splinched, but then you see Ron on the ground and Harry assisting him as Hermione (with bloody hands) puts up the protection spells.

Oh, well I guess I just didn't pay much attention it before cause I presumed it was Ron in both shots, since he's the one that gets splinched in the book. So I wonder what Harry is doing on the ground. Hmm, it does looks like that might be Harry in the background of the other.

True, and I can't believe it took us so long to figure out it was Claire Danes from Stardust! You know, if I'm not mistaken some of the HP fan sites (ie: Mugglenet, but that's not unusual, they are often in the clouds :p) STILL have that in their galleries as an image from HBP :lol:

That's funny. I never heard of this.

I think it would be interesting to see a bit of what is going on at Hogwarts or when Ron goes off on his own. It would make things a bit different than the previous films, which largely stayed within Harry's POV. There were exceptions of course, most notably the GoF scene between DD, McGonagall and Snape. I would like to see the DA members, the professors, and Snape at Hogwarts. It would remind the audience that yes they are still a part of the story.


The thing is someone said in an interview that they would be no where near Hogwarts in the first film. It seems strange that they would have these flashes of Hogwarts like this. I guess it is still possible because it is just flashes they are talking about and seem to be more about Snape, sort of like the short moments when they would show Ron and Lavander kissing or Draco being moody in HBP.

Hmm, you know what I notice now I can see it more clearly? It's HARRY laying on the ground, not Ron :hmm:

Yeah, it is Harry. The clothes are the same ones he is wearing when he is being Runcorn at the Ministry of Magic. I think that is how it is in the book. Harry is on the ground and then he gets up and realizes that Ron is hurt and bleeding and goes over to help. Then Hermione jumps up and starts casting protection spells.

PS. That is a much better version of the trailer.

The thing is someone said in an interview that they would be no where near Hogwarts in the first film. It seems strange that they would have these flashes of Hogwarts like this. I guess it is still possible because it is just flashes they are talking about and seem to be more about Snape, sort of like the short moments when they would show Ron and Lavander kissing or Draco being moody in HBP.

Yeah, I remember someone saying that too, but I can't remember who it was. Was it an actor? Sometimes actors are more concerned with their own parts and don't recall stuff that happens to other characters quite as much. I'm still not convinced this guy is for real, but even if he made it all up he had some interesting thoughts in there.

The thing is someone said in an interview that they would be no where near Hogwarts in the first film. It seems strange that they would have these flashes of Hogwarts like this. I guess it is still possible because it is just flashes they are talking about and seem to be more about Snape, sort of like the short moments when they would show Ron and Lavander kissing or Draco being moody in HBP.


True. I know the interview you mean, but I recall it being quite vague also. Like I couldn't tell if he just meant the trio wouldn't be anywhere near Hogwarts or no scenes there or what. Plus plans might have changed :shrug: I'm just not sure this is any sort of concrete evidence against.

Watching the better quality trailer. Theres a shot where two Death Eaters are standing. With the better quality I now really think that, that is a shot of Harry looking out of the Grimmauld Place window and seeing the DE's waiting/patrolling.

I agree it isn't concrete evidence against the guy. I think we will just have to wait and see. It is true that a lot of the things he has said are bold differences from the books and very detailed like about Ron and Hermione in the Chamber of Secrets and all the added scenes of the trio being hunted by the death eaters.

You know after seeing that video in higher quality i am even more certain that all the forest running at the end is from three different scenes. The silver doe, the snatcher chase, and some other unknown scene.

Also what the silently person is saying seems possible. That the trio would apparate near Hogwarts and go into Hogsmeade because of something to do with Ginny. That would be a way of sort of showing some of the Snape stuff instead of just telling it.

The thing is that i had sort of accepted that there would be no Hogwarts in DH Part 1 with the exception of possibly a scene where Luna gets taken from the train or where the secondary trio are on their way to Hogwarts. I think he said that there would be about fifteen minutes of Hogwarts in Part 1.

I think i just sort of liked the idea of the loneliness from the disconnect from Hogwarts. I guess they could pull it off by creating a juxtaposition of the two. I like the idea of showing some scenes of Ron on his own and when he gets jumped by the snatchers on his own.

Wow, guys...go to Mugglenet NOW! :D I'm not sure if I can link this, so just go there and you'll see for yourself! :cool:

EDIT: What is taking everyone so long?! I expected a couple replies by now :lol:

Ah, that was so awesome. The dancing. Them running in the trees. Downloadable. I am going to watch it again.

PS. Did you see all of those death eaters chasing them down the hill?

I wonder if that guy just got his bluyray a few days early.

Ah, that was so awesome. The dancing. Them running in the trees. Downloadable. I am going to watch it again.

Yep, and is everyone else asleep in here? :whistle:

Did you see all those death eaters chasing them down (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=8) the hill?

PS. Those are definitely wanted posters of Harry on the side of the building (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=14) and that is snow their so this scene is during the winter.

Did you see all those death eaters chasing them down (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=8) the hill?

Yep, looks cool...I just hope it's not too "fantastic" (to use my Dad's description for whenever something is over the top and un-realistic)

Yes, they're wizards and it's a series about magic so obviously a lot of it is unrealistic but let me explain :lol: :p I really kinda hate it where it seems like the protagonist should have died 10 times over. A good example would be the film Behind Enemy Lines. That was just ridiculous how he'd always evade gunfire like that. And in that picture the death eaters look so close you gotta wonder how their spells won't hit...

I hate that too when it seems like they should have died a bunch of times and keep making it.

This is definitely Ollivander and definitely Shell Cottage look at the shells (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=23) in the wall.

Can someone do a screen cap (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=24) of the door before Harry's arm gets in the way. I just wonder if there is something on it.

I hate that too when it seems like they should have died a bunch of times and keep making it.

This is definitely Ollivander and definitely Shell Cottage look at the shells (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=23) in the wall.

Yes, but I'm not sure if anyone noted this yet or not- the close up on the face is Bill Nighy.

I can tell by the eyes and many others have said the same elsewhere, such as on IMDB

Look at Ron's shoulder (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=35) in the splinching scene. I know that you look at Hermione's face, but look at his shoulder.

Look there is Mafalda (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=36).

I can't believe the amount of stuff that we have got over the past week or so!

I read a lot of that stuff a couple of pages back and to be totally honest, if it's true - then we are in for one hell of a treat!

I think it's ok to start getting excited for the film now.

And there was everyone saying that the anticipation couldn't reach HBP levels.... haha

Ron's clothes are wrong (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=43) for the snatcher scene in this shot in the forest. I wonder if this is the silver doe scene, but the lighting is off. Unless the sun comes up when Ron goes into the water after him. Though i would think they would keep it a surprise that it was Ron until Harry is saved.

Can someone do a screen cap (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=24) of the door before Harry's arm gets in the way. I just wonder if there is something on it.

Look at Ron's shoulder (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=35) in the splinching scene. I know that you look at Hermione's face, but look at his shoulder.

I know...that's one hell of a gash! :wow:


BTW, am I the only one finds it odd there are so many WANTED posters of Harry side by side? They should have ones of the rest of the trio and spread them out more or something...jeez. I mean, why plaster like 5 or 6 all in the one area? :err: :whistle: Sorry, just a random thought. :lol:

Im 100% sure the shot of the death eaters is outside Grimmauld Place.

That shot of the trio running downhill with the snatchers behind them is very exciting :D

the HQ trailer is AMAZING! I just can't wait for this film...

thoughts:
-the scene with the trio after the wedding in london looks great, i love the way its filmed. you can see the panic on their faces and stress over what just happened and being caught in a huge crowd in the city, i really love it.
-I love the splinched scene! Ron's gash looks pretty big, and I'm glad they have blood all over hermione's hands, they obviously aren't shying away from anything.
-I think that door looks like its from Grimmauld Place. its black and old looking, and it looks like theres a hole in it, like someone broke into it, which would have been snape of course.

Looks awesome. I cannot wait. :)

Snape wouldn't need to break in would he? He was part of the Order and could get in. That's why they put up the spell to detect him or whatever. I could be forgetting something though.

I wonder if this (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=25) is supposed to be Snape. We went to the Harry Potter exhibit and saw Snape's costume and wand. I remember that his wand was all black. The costume had long sleeves that went over the wrist.

I wonder if this (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=25) is supposed to be Snape. We went to the Harry Potter exhibit and saw Snape's costume and wand. I remember that his wand was all black. The costume had long sleeves that went over the wrist.

That's Harry though. In the video it pans up and that is Harry (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=26). It is the map of Hogwarts. I wonder if he is looking at Ginny's dot. I think they are in the tent because the walls are tent color and that may be their table. Is that a radio to the right of the photo?

Yeah, you're right about it being Harry. I bet it is the part where he is thinking about Ginny.

I can't grasp how I feel right now, I'm going to go crazy for the next 11 months. :(

You can see the distress of them and looks like they are going to push as far as they can go with showing the goriness i.e... Ron's shoulder.

That look so disgusting. DId he scream in the book? I can't remember. :/

Look George's ear does have a bandage (http://www.snitchseeker.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1418&pos=111) at the wedding. You can see something in this photo though it isn't that great of quality.

There are a lot of people (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=11) behind Harry and Hermione. Are they going to church? It looks like some of them have masks on like they are afraid they will get H1N1.

I can't remember if Ron screams in the book. I think he was just really out of it like almost unconscious.

The guy who posted info on the harrypotterforum mentioned a added scene where the trio try going to Hogsmeade during the winter, and this screencap proves it...

http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=14

The guy who posted info on the harrypotterforum mentioned a added scene where the trio try going to Hogsmeade during the winter, and this screencap proves it...

http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=14

But is it possible he already knew about what was in the trailer somehow other than from working on the set?

Anyways, thought I'd post that there is confirmation on Sean Biggerstaff returning as Oliver Wood too...but again he might have discovered this article last week and repeated the info to make himself sound more credible... :hmm:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.universharrypotter.com/news-1827.html&ei=Xh0bS8nbLIT8sQOq59WHBw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CAgQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dhttp://www.universharrypotter.com/news-1827.html%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff

An army of Death Eaters was created, with approximately 20 to 30 Death Eaters-extras, including Jason Isaacs (Lucius Malfoy in the Harry Potter films), Helena Bonham Carter (Bellatrix Lestrange in the Harry Potter films) and Helen McCrory (Narcissa Malfoy in the Harry Potter films). Moreover, students like Dean Thomas, Seamus Finnigan, Romilda Vane, Blaise Zabini, Cho Chang and and many more will join the battle. Moreover, to our surprise, the actor Sean Biggerstaff reprise his role as Oliver Wood.

:D

The guy who posted info on the harrypotterforum mentioned a added scene where the trio try going to Hogsmeade during the winter, and this screencap proves it...

http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=14

I think you are right too. When we saw this in the lesser quality version i didn't think that was snow, but i was wrong. It definitely looks like snow now though it is also foggy. Good call. That does prove a little more about what that person was saying.

It does make me wonder though if he just got his blueray a few days early. If he had handed all this information out like two weeks ago i wouldn't still be questioning.

It does make me wonder though if he just got his blueray a few days early. If he had handed all this information out like two weeks ago i wouldn't still be questioning.

Exactly :agree:

I don't think so, people who pre-ordered the blu off amazon, some started getting them earlier by accident yesterday. But the dvd/blu hasn't even been sent to press yet.

What do you guys think Harry is attacking (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=5) here? I think it is funny the tent up on that ledge. It looks so small.

PS. You can definitely see what looks like Greyback (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=8) chasing the trio.

What do you guys think Harry is attacking (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=5) here? I think it is funny the tent up on that ledge. It looks so small.

Ah, I meant to ask that earlier. Hmm, could he be hunting for food...using his wand like a gun? :lol: Anyways, the scenery is lovely :tu:

I don't think so, people who pre-ordered the blu off amazon, some started getting them earlier by accident yesterday. But the dvd/blu hasn't even been sent to press yet.

I wish that would have been me. :(

Ah, I meant to ask that earlier. Hmm, could he be hunting for food...using his wand like a gun? :lol: Anyways, the scenery is lovely :tu:

That's what i thought because if it was a person they would be there. Wait wasn't there a mention of Harry chasing a rabbit on one of the set reports. That must be what this is supposed to be. No rabbits were harmed in the making of this film.

PS. It says Ron chases a rabbit in the set report (http://hp4unews.blogspot.com/2009/06/deathly-hallows-swinley-forest-june_26.html#links). I still think it might be something like that though this looks like Harry.

Yay! We finally got HD Screenshots! I was so hoping for a good screenshot of the Hermione with bloody hands scene and I got it! Now it is my wallpaper.

ETA: Here (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=41) is another one which you can see the Snatchers in.

Ugh! Figures! I don't get on for a couple of days and all this info comes about!
But wow!! OMH! OMH! OMH!! This is all so exciting! So much info!
And I'm so happy Oliver Wood is returning! Really! Yay!
I'm gonna have to go back and look at all this again!

I am really freaking out about the high resolution tariler and pics! It all looks so amazing and this makes me super excited for DH!!! Ah! I cannot wait! Why does it have to be so far away??

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I am really freaking out about the high resolution tariler and pics! It all looks so amazing and this makes me super excited for DH!!! Ah! I cannot wait! Why does it have to be so far away??

Haha, I agree :D 11 months is a long time to wait.
But Harry Potter is the one thing that my excitement never dies down for..
So 11 long months of upcoming news and excitement sounds great :D
Although I'd rather see the movie sooner :P

Does anyone think there's any chance of maybe a month or 2 early release? :P

Does anyone think there's any chance of maybe a month or 2 early release? :P

I doubt it, but since HBP got delayed I think we deserve to get this a bit earlier :)

I'm really happy with the trailer. One thing really obvious to me (as I've seen the trailer, and read the whole description of the movies by dream_silently), is that there will be an incredible amount of detail and extended scenes!

For example, Hermione's visit to her parents, the speech of Rufus Scrimgeour, the Snatchers Chase, the Hogwarts Express and the extended Seven Potters sequence. This all will the movie not only make a blockbuster to the non-readers, but also for the readers. That's the magic of movie-making! And because we know they'll have enough screentime for the whole story itself, we can be sure they won't cut important parts and put in some new 'unlogical' parts (like the cutting of Scrimgeour in the sixth movie and the adding of the Burrow sequence).


The speech of Scrimgeour will not only be the introduction of the new Minister for Magic, it will also help the viewer to get back in the story, to get back in the world they've left when they walked out of the cinema watching HBP. They can give the viewer the feeling that the world is about to change once and for all, that the Dark Times/Darkest Hour is about to reach its climax.
We know that the Seven Potters sequence won't be just in the air, they'll fly and ride through downtown London. And for those who believe dream_silently, when they reach the Burrow they'll have a final sprint through the reeds, purchased by Death Eaters. Gosh, that would be so thrilling!
The Snatchers Chase will be fantastic! Running through the forest at topspeed, running for your life with the most evil and savage bountyhunters hunting you down. In the trailer I could see the really dark atmosphere of that scene: darkblue tones, handheld camera work and the asthonishing acting of the Trio (the close ups in the trailer are great, you can really see the fear in the eyes). That would be a nice climax of the first movie (although Dobby's death would've been better).

But there are two things I'm afraid of:
That they'll let the Death Eaters and Snatchers pop up everywhere the Trio is. I would be really upset when they let them show up at Godric's Hollow or the Silver Doe scenes. That would ruin the essence of the scene. Those scenes should be beautiful and sad, moments of the Trio together, their friendship ... not the danger outside.
That they'll have two storylines: the Trio and the secondary Trio. In the first film I just want to see the Trio isolated in the dark cold woods while they know what's out there: that people are looking for them. That lonely and terrifying feeling shouldn't be ruined by the scenes of the happy Ginny, Neville and Luna, doing some D.A. praticing.


I really hope they'll extend the scenes with Kreacher (showing the flashbacks with Regulus at the Cave, and chasing Mundungus through Diagon Alley), that Dobby will have a bigger role (reintroduction and something with the mystery around the Mirror Shard and their mysterious silent guardian Aberforth Dumbledore) and that the Trio will visit (as rumored) Hogsmeade. That should have something to do with the Dobby/Aberforth-mystery or with them trying to see how the land lies at Hogwarts/sneaking in. Then they'll find out the first things about Snape's regime and the Death Eaters guarding Hogwarts.

Okay, well, that was it.

Well the forest scene seems a lot better now. :P

But I still think that a fight at Xeno's house and a chase in the woods wouldn't feel like a real climax for the film. Non-fans would expect crazy action after the lack of it in HBP and it the film starts with attacks, 7 Potters, Wedding and Cafe battles, Ministry heist etc. they will expect a really impressive climax, which will never come.

I love this shot of snowy Hogsmeade. I think it's obvious we'll see them testing the DEs defences (?) in Part One.

Dream is telling the truth, I guess. I mean, the Hogsmeade scene, Harry and Hermione are not polyjuiced at Godric's Hollow, the tent dance is not a real dance and it does happen after Ron leaves them, Oliver Wood does indeed come back to Part 2. This is too much. Are all of these wild guesses? I don't know...


Back on topic now.
The forest scene has some beautiful shots and I guess we'll see all these DEs in black smoke-formations and we'll see lots of spells and explosions and running. It will be cool.

P.S. I think I'll love the Godric's Hollow scene. It seems really emotional.



KJRiddle, dream said that the scenes at Hogwarts will be less than 15 minutes which means that we'll see short glimpses of what's going on with Snape and the new D.A. I don't think they'll focus on the new trio. They'll just show that they are hiding from the Death Eaters and this will prepare us for the D.A. scenes in Part 2. And I love everything new with Alan Rickman,Maggie Smith and Jim Broadbent XD

And guys why do we all think that this forest scene with Harry alone (with this grey jacket) is the Silver Doe scene?
I was thinking: at Godric's Hollow there is snow. The Hogsmeade chase happens in a snowy environment and Ron is there with them. The Silver Doe scene is in between. Why would there be a lack of snow?

I tend to believe these shots may be from the scene where Harry first sees the Doe, according to dream.

Been browsing the IMDB boards, and it looks like someone sent Phoenix123 a PM to try and get confirmation on that dream_silently person's info....hopefully he responds :) And I got an answer as to if/when he's going to leak script for DH- yes, around April, after filming wraps :tu:

The speech of Scrimgeour will not only be the introduction of the new Minister for Magic, it will also help the viewer to get back in the story, to get back in the world they've left when they walked out of the cinema watching HBP. They can give the viewer the feeling that the world is about to change once and for all, that the Dark Times/Darkest Hour is about to reach its climax.

I think that this opening sounds good though it sounds very similar to the beginning of HBP with Harry and the cameras and then a bunch of scenes where the death eaters attack people. The thing is it might seem similar on paper, but feel very different on screen.
We know that the Seven Potters sequence won't be just in the air, they'll fly and ride through downtown London. And for those who believe dream_silently, when they reach the Burrow they'll have a final sprint through the reeds, purchased by Death Eaters. Gosh, that would be so thrilling!

This seems consistent with that really tiny photo of the seven potters scene because the trio is sort of huddled together near the burrow like they have been fighting. Though they could have just hugged after landing from the fight in the sky and that is why they are huddled to together.

But I still think that a fight at Xeno's house and a chase in the woods wouldn't feel like a real climax for the film. Non-fans would expect crazy action after the lack of it in HBP and it the film starts with attacks, 7 Potters, Wedding and Cafe battles, Ministry heist etc. they will expect a really impressive climax, which will never come.

I think this is a pretty good climax especially compared with the lack of Battle at the end of HBP. Harry threw what like three spells at Snape and that was it. Though the climax was supposed to be Dumbledore's death and not the battle.

And guys why do we all think that this forest scene with Harry alone (with this grey jacket) is the Silver Doe scene?
I was thinking: at Godric's Hollow there is snow. The Hogsmeade chase happens in a snowy environment and Ron is there with them. The Silver Doe scene is in between. Why would there be a lack of snow?

I think that this is right before (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=29) the silver (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=30) doe scene and there is a little white on the ground it is just not really thick which is consistent of light snow in a forest. A lot of the snow gets stuck in the trees and doesn't make it to the floor, especially in a pine forest.

1 (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=30)
2 (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=29)
2 (http://media.the-leaky-cauldron.org/gallery/films/DH/BehindTheScenes/OnSet/normal_dh_behindthescenes_onset_07.jpg)

That is indeed the Silver Doe sequence. You can see the similair ground in both pictures. There is also (indeed) a small layer of now), and now I also see that the light illuminating Dan's face in the third picture, should be the light of the Silver doe.

I think that's right. I also think the last shot of the trailer (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=47) with Harry walking is from the silver doe scene.

Yes, you're probably/obviously right on that. You see that he's wearing the same sweater (the sweater he's only wearing at this point in the entire movie, according to everything we've seen) and it's night.

Funny how much you can conclude from simple things as clothes :lol:

BTW: someone already contacted that dream_silently.
He's just playing hard to get, if you're asking me. He's logged in just half an hour ago, and the only topic he's posted in is that topic. So he must have read all the begging of those who want him to return. Just a matter of time. Or this dude is right, or he's wrong and has just seen the trailer before we did.

Yeah i know. The clothes are always the most telling sign of what scene they are in. I think that there are two scenes where Ron wears the same zipper hoddie and Harry is wearing a similar blue shirt in two different scenes, but otherwise they don't usually overlap clothing too much.

I haven't seen any other scenes where he is wearing the grayish sweater/jumper with the high collar and the lighting is unique for that scene with the duskiness and the silver glow on his face once he starts walking.

Oh wow, I totally didn't figure out that Harry/Hermione's dance scene is in their tent, and not at the wedding. Wow.

The extended Seven Potters scenes sound really awesome though. The chase through the reeds. I'm betting it is a race to get to the protection spells.

I didn't think they would dance (http://www.snitchseeker.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1418&pos=140) in their tent either. That seems kind of strange, but it doesn't look that bad and i guess i could see Harry trying to cheer Hermione up after Ron left.

I also noticed that the other camping photos that we got of Emma and Dan beside the tent that they are wearing the same clothes as they are when they are dancing.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/dancing%20in%20tent/Camping1.jpg

I didn't think they would dance (http://www.snitchseeker.com/gallery/displayimage.php?album=1418&pos=140) in their tent either. That seems kind of strange, but it doesn't look that bad and i guess i could see Harry trying to cheer Hermione up after Ron left.

I also noticed that the other camping photos that we got of Emma and Dan beside the tent that they are wearing the same clothes as they are when they are dancing.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/dancing%20in%20tent/Camping1.jpg

Yeah it almost reminds me of the scene in HBP, after Ron kisses Lavendar, and Hermione is crying, and Harry goes to cheer her up. This could almost be a mirror image, except with the addition of dancing.

Yeah i think the scene seems a lot like that. I definitely think it is when Harry and Hermione are on their own because i don't think Rupert was there they day they filmed those scenes outside by the little tent.

Do you think that this is a radio (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=25) in these photos of Harry looking at the map in the right bottom corner and then in the ones of them dancing (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=4) sort of right by the light on the bench near the camera? This could mean that they have the radio all the time and are listening to updates from Hogwarts and other order members which i think was suggested in a set report while they were filming at swinley forest.

PS. I could just imagine them showing something at Hogwarts and then going into the tent as the trio listens over the radio to some of the events that we just saw. This would take away from some of their isolation.

Yeah i think the scenes seems a lot like that. I definitely think it is when Harry and Hermione are on their own because i don't think Rupert was there they day they filmed those scenes outside by the little tent.

Do you think that this is a radio (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=25) in these photos of Harry looking at the map in the right bottom corner and then in the ones of them dancing (http://mugglenet.com/viewer/dhtrailerdec09.php?number=4) sort of right by the light on the bench near the camera? This could mean that they have the radio all the time and are listening to updates from Hogwarts and other order members which i think was suggested in a set report while they were filming at swinley forest.

PS. I could just imagine them showing something at Hogwarts and then going into the tent as the trio listens over the radio to some of the events that we just saw. This would take away from some of their isolation.

That is definitely a radio, yeah, and it might just be the radio they listen to.

Perhaps in the dance scene, some music comes on and Harry dances with Hermione?

I think that would make sense that some music would come on and Hermione is being sad about Ron leaving so Harry dances with her and they talk about Ron. It still seems strange that there is such a scene, but i guess they have to show them doing something while they are in the tent between action scenes.

Though, in general, i am always a bigger fan of the quiet moments between the characters rather then the big action moments, though i like those too, so i might end up really liking this scene.

Speaking of the radio, I just hope the Potterwatch in the movie is as good as it was in the book, which is, IMO, one of the best scenes in the book.

I am not sure how that is going to work because in the book the Potterwatch scene is between the Xenophilius scene and the Capture scene. It seems that in the film the trio will be chased from Xenophilius' house by snatchers/death eaters and then captured in the woods around his house before being taken to Malfoy Manor. That would leave no moment for the Potterwatch scene to be in between those two scenes.

This is sort of why i think they might be listening to the radio throughout as well as it being mentioned in a set report.

I am not sure how that is going to work because in the book the Potterwatch scene is between the Xenophilius scene and the Capture scene. It seems that in the film the trio will be chased from Xenophilius' house by snatchers/death eaters and then captured in the woods around his house before being taken to Malfoy Manor. That would leave no moment for the Potterwatch scene to be in between those two scenes.

This is sort of why i think they might be listening to the radio throughout as well as it being mentioned in a set report.

Oh, so that is where they are being chased at. I thought it was just in a seperate forest, but that would make sense. And if you think about it, then that way they wouldn't have to put too much emphasis into the "Taboo".

BTW: someone already contacted that dream_silently.
He's just playing hard to get, if you're asking me. He's logged in just half an hour ago, and the only topic he's posted in is that topic. So he must have read all the begging of those who want him to return. Just a matter of time. Or this dude is right, or he's wrong and has just seen the trailer before we did.

Well that's good...I guess :whistle: :lol: I've actually had an account over there ever since the Scoop fiasco back during Prince's production :relax:


Anyways...

Going with the current topic- he hasn't said or nobody has asked him yet anything about Potterwatch, have they? Unless I just missed it...

Mrs. Weasley killed Bellatrix?! :O

Well that's good...I guess :whistle: :lol: I've actually had an account over there ever since the Scoop fiasco back during Prince's production :relax:


Anyways...


Going with the current topic- he hasn't said or nobody has asked him yet anything about Potterwatch, have they? Unless I just missed it...

There indeed is some confusion about that part in the movie (Potterwatch). It hasn't been mentioned yet, and it's rumored that the Trio will be caught immediately after Xenophilius.

But the different clothing of the Trio indicates that there will be some time between Xenophilius and the Snatchers Chase. I think the get away from Xenophilius will be the same as in the book: they apparate, discuss the Deathly Hallows and listen to Potterwatch (that would also explain the radio we saw in the teaser trailer).

But it would actually work out: letting the Trio being caught right after Xenophilius. Then they could discuss the Deathly Hallos at Shell Cottage, so the viewer is being (re)informed about what they have learned in the previous movie.

We'll see ...

But it would actually work out: letting the Trio being caught right after Xenophilius. Then they could discuss the Deathly Hallos at Shell Cottage, so the viewer is being (re)informed about what they have learned in the previous movie.

We'll see ...

Funny you mentioned that cause I just posted on this on the IMDB board. :lol: Someone was shocked that Ollivander knew about the Hallows

Here's what I said:

The Hallows are quite important, so it's not a bad idea to explain them to the film only audience more than once. My guess is Xeno will tell the tale in Part 1 and then they will use Ollivander to re-cap in Part 2, without it seeming too much like "previously on...."

Plus, I don't think it's terribly unreasonable for Ollivander to know about the Hallows. Afterall, based on what Ron said, everyone who grew up in a magical family has likely heard the tale since it's a bedtime story. And we already know that the Ollivander in the book knows about the Elder wand. Is it such a stretch for him to know about the 2 other objects that exist also? Anyways, that's just my thoughts on it. I don't really have any issues with the idea. :shrug: If you ask me, it's quite clever actually.

Funny you mentioned that cause I just posted on this on the IMDB board. :lol: Someone was shocked that Ollivander knew about the Hallows

Here's what I said:
The Hallows are quite important, so it's not a bad idea to explain them to the film only audience more than once. My guess is Xeno will tell the tale in Part 1 and then they will use Ollivander to re-cap in Part 2, without it seeming too much like "previously on...."

Plus, I don't think it's terribly unreasonable for Ollivander to know about the Hallows. Afterall, based on what Ron said, everyone who grew up in a magical family has likely heard the tale since it's a bedtime story. And we already know that the Ollivander in the book knows about the Elder wand. Is it such a stretch for him to know about the 2 other objects that exist also? Anyways, that's just my thoughts on it. I don't really have any issues with the idea. If you ask me, it's quite clever actually.

That's a coincidence! xD
I think it works, because first the Trio can discuss what they know/think of the Deathly Hallows, and Ron can use his 'bed time story-knowledge' (they should do that as they walk along the beach of Shell Cottage, right after the burial of Dobby).
Then Harry thinks: 'Ay, wait: The Elder Wand ... Wands ... Ollivander!'
He asks Ollivander about the Deathly Hallows and he completely re-informs him, like Xeno, and then they have a long conversation about the Elder Wand and the reason why Voldemort's out of the country.

Going with the current topic- he hasn't said or nobody has asked him yet anything about Potterwatch, have they? Unless I just missed it...

I don't think that he has mentioned Potterwatch or the radio yet.

But it would actually work out: letting the Trio being caught right after Xenophilius. Then they could discuss the Deathly Hallows at Shell Cottage, so the viewer is being (re)informed about what they have learned in the previous movie.

We'll see ...

That is true they could have them discussing the Hallows at shell cottage instead of when they are alone at Xenophilius' house and that would be a good way to recap for the second film as well. They could get interrupted while discussing them like they do in the book.

Oh man this trailer was good and THANK YOU to mugglenet for the high rez screencaps! Man I can't wait to get my HBP DVD tomorrow!

-JR

I think these shots in the trailer are definitely a different scene. They must have another chase scene. I don't think this is during the silver doe scene because Harry's close are wrong, so i am not sure where this is possibly at Hogwarts in the forest or they are just getting attacked while they are camping. I don't know.

It isn't the snatcher chase scene though from the one long day.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/other%20chase/dh000224.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/other%20chase/dh000225.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/other%20chase/39.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/other%20chase/dh000217.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/other%20chase/dh000218.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/other%20chase/40.jpg

How do we know it's not the Snatchers chase scene?

They are wearing different clothes then they are wearing in the snatcher chase scene. If you don't want to see spoilers then don't look at the photos. This is what they are wearing in the snatcher chase scene:

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/snatcher%20chase/dhteaser_trioinwoods.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/snatcher%20chase/dh000229.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/snatcher%20chase/dhteaser_ronwoah.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/snatcher%20chase/44.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/snatcher%20chase/dhteaser_runhermione.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/snatcher%20chase/42.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/snatcher%20chase/dh000077.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/snatcher%20chase/dh000078.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/snatcher%20chase/dhteaser_fleeingsnatchers.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/snatcher%20chase/9.jpg
Here is a picture of their clothes when they aren't running.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/apparation%20to%20beach/beac1.jpg
The assumption is that it has to be two different scenes if they are wearing different clothes. So these photos are of a different scene i am just not sure when this scene would be in the film.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/other%20chase/dh000224.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/other%20chase/dh000225.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/other%20chase/39.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/other%20chase/dh000217.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/other%20chase/dh000218.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/other%20chase/40.jpg

The assumption is also that the Xenophilius scene, snatcher chase scene, capture scene, malfoy manor scene, apparation to beach scene, dobby's death and burial scene, and Harry speaks to Griphook and Ollivander at shell cottage scenes are all one long day because the trio are wearing the exact same clothes with coats on or off in all of those scenes.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/lovegoods/xenophiliuslovegood001.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/apparation%20to%20beach/beach5.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/apparation%20to%20beach/necktrio.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/dobbys%20bruial/body2.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/inside%20shell%20cottage/dhteaser_harryatshellcottage.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/inside%20shell%20cottage/dhteaser_ollivander.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/inside%20shell%20cottage/dhteaser_giphook.jpg

Call me crazy, but the clothes in the dark chase scene and the clothes in the chase scene from the behind-the-scenes point of view seem the same to me...It also seems to me the outfit that Harry is wearing on the beach is the same as the outfit he is wearing in the chase scenes. Did I miss something? They all seem the same to me...are there other pictures I am missing?

-JR

I am saying that this is one scene that we are calling the snatcher chase scene. Harry is wearing a black jacket with a blue collared shirt underneath, Hermione that v-neck tan sweater/jumper with a hood and a gray jacket, and Ron a plaid jacket with a green sweater/jumper with a red collared shirt underneath.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/snatcher%20chase/dhteaser_trioinwoods.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/snatcher%20chase/dh000229.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/snatcher%20chase/dhteaser_ronwoah.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/snatcher%20chase/44.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/snatcher%20chase/dhteaser_runhermione.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/snatcher%20chase/42.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/snatcher%20chase/dh000077.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/snatcher%20chase/dh000078.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/snatcher%20chase/dhteaser_fleeingsnatchers.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/snatcher%20chase/9.jpg

This is a different chase scene in the forest because all of their clothes are different. Harry is wearing a zipper hoodie with a dark blue high collared shirt, Ron is wearing a plaid jacket but the colors are different, and Hermione is wearing a tan jacket.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/other%20chase/dh000224.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/other%20chase/dh000225.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/other%20chase/39.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/other%20chase/dh000217.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/other%20chase/dh000218.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/other%20chase/40.jpg

This really isn't that important i am just saying all those shots jumbled at the end of the trailer are not from the same scene. There is no snow, so it is probably either early in the film or late though the fact that the are in a pine forest makes it harder to tell.

Do you think the next DH trailer will feature scenes from Gringotts and the Battle of Hogwarts?
Or do you think - like the current trailer - they will stick to scenes from part 1.
(besides Shell Cottage)
I don't think we'll be expecting another trailer for atleast a couple of months now.
I'm wondering if they're going to make a full Deathly Hallows trailer, or a Part 1 trailer, then once that has been released release a Part 2 trailer.
What do you think?

I'm not a fan of the trailer; the voiceover is interesting, but the footage isn't so much. It seems generic to me, like it could've been from any HP movie.

I'm not a fan of the trailer; the voiceover is interesting, but the footage isn't so much. It seems generic to me, like it could've been from any HP movie.

Really? I thought it was the most unique HP trailer we have ever had.
I thought alot of the footage was unique aswell. Especially Hermione with blood on her hands, and the chase. It just seemed alot different to me. Different but amazing :D

Really? I thought it was the most unique HP trailer we have ever had.
I thought alot of the footage was unique aswell. Especially Hermione with blood on her hands, and the chase. It just seemed alot different to me. Different but amazing :D

I agree :agree:


Although, I dunno why...I've felt like "empty" watching it. :hmm: Anyone else felt odd? Maybe it's the realization it's all coming to an end... :(

I know this probably don't make a whole lot of sense but...

Well, the end is a ways off but the wait kinda feels like it's going by faster than it should. On the other hand, I can't wait to see the film! :drool:

I know this probably don't make a whole lot of sense but like the end is a ways off and I can't wait to see this film! But the wait kinda feels like it's going by faster than it should

I understand what you mean. I am really hyped for this movie, yet I dont want it all to end. But knowing it's ending won't take away my excitement. The sadness will probably hit me as soon as the showdown between Harry and Voldemort ends.

If you're waiting for my thoughts on the trailer here it is!

It's different but for all the wrong reasons. It almost looks like it's taking cues from the sort of boring shots of OoTP and mixed it in with The Road. Sure it kinda looks bleak, but the production values looked like it fell significantly in comparison to HBP and I fear that it will rely far too much on CGing and colored lenses rather than actual good cinematography.

Now some new worries, I recall that now...hey guess what? DH part one is going to be a question fest of the grade 3 variety. Radcliffe acting...pretty good. HP asking questions all the time not so great. It's going to be CoS all over again IMHO. At least HBP was balanced out with actual acting with the romantic aspects.

Worst part of the trailer? Heyman in the intro. When he said I'm amazed that he's still here working on the 7th and 8TH MOVIE I was not impressed at all. All sort of wrongness alarms went off into my head.

1. I don't like the Shell Cottage location. :P It doesn't have anything magical. It's good but, for me, not good enough. And Griphook doesn't impress me. Even the interior of Shell Cottage seems very usual to me. Nothing interesting at all. Loved John Hurt though.
2.All these shots of Harry's hand opening the door, him checking the Marauder's Map were boring too.
3. The forest chase scene just doesn't seem anything too good to be the climax of the film. Furthermore, Xeno's house seems too funny and strange to be a major set for the finale of Part 1. Comparing to HBP (Cave,Astronomy Tower, Hogwarts Grounds) there is nothing as artistic and visually stunning. It may have more action than the few moments in the Cave and the DEs flight in HBP but it lacks the emotional and visual beauty.

Now the positive ones:

1. The Godric's Hollow, London chase and Hermione with blood scenes look very interesting. And I really liked the cinematography in these. Still, nothing impressive.
2. Emma looks better than ever (in terms of acting).
3. This teaser is much better than the PoA, GoF and OotP teasers. It's much more interesting and the cinematography seems better than the one in PS,CoS,GoF and OotP.
4. I LOVED Rufus Scrimgeour (Bill Nighy yay!) and the shot with the photographers was awe-inspiring (even better than the one in HBP even though it won't have an emotional vibe but a serious one).
5. John Hurt and Bill Nighy. Two of the greatest actors in Brittain. Nothing else to say.


So overall I am not too disappointed or too optimistic. I didn't like the first half of DH and I really don't like the fact that they split the book. They could fit everything until Malfoy Manor in 1 hour and a half,tops and have another 1 hour and a half for everything after Shell Cottage.


Anyway now I only care for DH1.
I guess we should stay for the theatrical trailer (not even the teaser) because that's where we'll be able to judge better. The cinematography (lighting, colours), the editing, the special effects, the score-nothing is ready. So we'd better be patient I think ;)

So overall I am not too disappointed or too optimistic. I didn't like the first half of DH and I really don't like the fact that they split the book. They could fit everything until Malfoy Manor in 1 hour and a half,tops and have another 1 hour and a half for everything after Shell Cottage.


Here is where I disagree whole-heartedly. This is the last book of the series, and the last movie(s). The director/writer/producers all knew that there wouldn't be anything more after this. If they messed up this movie, that's it. It'd be done. Nothing to look forward to.

From the start, I'd been supportive of the 2 part movies. If they would have put it into one movie, a lot would have been cut, and it wouldn't be good for the storyline. They want to give the fans what we want. A good adaptation, pulling out all the stops, giving us every bit of the final book we love, so they decided to put it in two movies.

Now, others may say they did it for the money. I say they did this for the fans, and for the final book of the series.

From what we've seen so far, with the sneak peak and stuff, I'd say they are doing a fantastic job, and I don't think I'll walk out of the theaters disappointed after seeing these two movies.

From what we've seen so far, with the sneak peak and stuff, I'd say they are doing a fantastic job, and I don't think I'll walk out of the theaters disappointed after seeing these two movies.

I agree 100% These movies look amazing to me, and we've only seen just over a minute.

I think it's too early to judge how the chase scene will be. I have no problem with the set. Wouldn't it be fantastic to see Mr Lovegood's house blow up and all the chaos it cause and then the trio run into the dark forest in top speed as they try to avoid the spells from the death eaters. It sounds amazing to me, but I shouldn't get too high expectations. They wanted the climax of HBP to be visually stunning whereas I think they will go for a tougher style this time. Then you won't care about the background in all the chaos, but rather what will happen to the characters.

It's a reason there isn't much footage in this "trailer". They haven't shot the entire film yet and they probably haven't added many special effects to the scenes yet.

I think it's too early to judge how the chase scene will be. I have no problem with the set. Wouldn't it be fantastic to see Mr Lovegood's house blow up and all the chaos it cause and then the trio run into the dark forest in top speed as they try to avoid the spells from the death eaters. It sounds amazing to me, but I shouldn't get too high expectations. They wanted the climax of HBP to be visually stunning whereas I think they will go for a tougher style this time. Then you won't care about the background in all the chaos, but rather what will happen to the characters.

It's a reason there isn't much footage in this "trailer". They haven't shot the entire film yet and they probably haven't added many special effects to the scenes yet.
It could be something entirely different. I could only assume that because of Twilight mania, they might be desperate to send out promotional material in order to keep their presence in the public. I must admit looking at the trailer really gave off a New Moon feel in the way it was cut and edited. Far more shots of the Trio sort of generic establishing shots than a visual hook for people to take in.

I don't know I feel I won't like DH1 at all.

So the plot structure is (from what we know overall):

-Malfoy Manor meeting & Scrimgeour speech
-Dursleys departing
-Seven Potters battle
-Moody's death & Arriving at the Burrow
-Dumbledore's Will-Trio's plans-Ginny's farewell
-The Wedding & Burrow attack
-Running in London & Cafe shop fight
-Going to Grimmauld Place & Learning about R.A.B.
-Kreacher's Tale & Ministry heist plans
-The Ministry Infiltration
-Going to the Woods & Ron's injury
-Ron's leaving & Harry's nightmares
-Skeeter's book & Hermione/Harry loneliness
-Godric's Hollow & Bathilda-Nagini attack
-Hollow flashback & Into the Wild
-Silver Doe & Ron's Return
-Visiting Xenophilius Lovegood & Death Eaters attack
-Snatchers chase & Capture.

Well of course there will be Hogwarts scenes, Voldemort visions, probably new scenes (according to dream silently: new fights, a Hogsmeade trip, a Diagon Alley chase etc.) but, overall, I think there's something missing. There's no proper climax; just a fight scene and a cliffhanger. There is no grand battle sequence in the final parts (the only big one is the 7 Potters and it's in the beginning) and from what we've seen, the sets are a bit of a lackluster (yeah I know we have seen very few scenes but the Doe forest is usual, the Snatchers chase reminds me of Twilight and the Shell Cottage/Lovegoods House don't seem to have the magical 'spark'. Furthermore, we have the Burrow and Grimmauld Place again). I am a bit prejudiced because I didn't like the teaser but I just feel this won't be what I expect. And it doesnt' seem as beautiful and visually captivating and interesting as HBP.
Dunno :/

The snatchers scene will probably be much better than the climax of HBP, which felt sort of a cliffhanger actually. I mean, in the end a lot of people was like "is that all?" and left the cinema disappointed.
It's not a teaser trailer by the way. It's just some clips to get us excited. We can't say for sure how the cinematography will be based on 50 seconds out of 2 and 1/2 hours. It seems like they actually want some realistic colours for this one. Not green as in Twilight and GoF, not blue as in OotP and not yellow/brown as in HBP.

Lots of things happens in DH (at least compared to OotP and HBP) and it seems as though the film makers will be very faithful to the book. I can't wait :D

I don't know I feel I won't like DH1 at all.

So the plot structure is (from what we know overall):

-Malfoy Manor meeting & Scrimgeour speech


If this dream_silently person is to be believed, at the moment that is wrong

So, this reminded me that nobody responded to my post from a few days ago...



BTW, which opening would you guys want? :) And by that I mean in what order would you place these...

5.It's a very dark opening. There are 4 scenes but they don't know which is going to be the really first one: the Malfoy Manor meeting, Death Eaters invade Hogwarts,Hogsmeade,Diagon Alley and Knockturn Alley, Rufus Scrimgeour gathers all Aurors and ministry officials to talk about Voldemort's ascending and a long flashback of Dumbledore's death sequence.

I like the sound of them all, but I'd prefer it start just like the book (Dark Lord Ascending)

However, this is how it goes at the moment-

No. The film begins with flashbacks to the Cave and Dumbledore's death scenes. The script says:

we hear Dumbledore screaming'Kill me!' and then we hear Harry shouting 'Snape! He trusted you!' and we see shots of the Cave sequence fading to Dumbledore VS Draco on the Astronomy Tower and it cuts to Snape killing Dumbledore, Dumbledore falling and Bellatrix making the Dark Mark. The camera travels inside the Dark Mark and we cut to the Ministry where Scrimgeour gives his speech. This fades to multiple attacks of Death Eaters to London and magical places (attack in Hogsmeade,Diagon Alley and they eventually invade Hogwarts along with Dementors). Then it cuts to the Malfoy Manor meeting, which is pretty much the same as in the book. Just Yaxley is not with Snape. Voldemort and Snape discuss the Order's plans and Charity is indeed killed. Then it cuts to Dumbledore,Snape and Voldemort shots and Harry wakes up scared and shocked. From that point, the Dursleys departing and the 7 Potters scenes begin.

Anyone care to offer their thoughts this time? :p I think it'd be an interesting discussion. The opening should set the mood for the film.

I want to begin with the flashbacks of Dumbledore's death and especially focus on Snape, then cut to Malfoy Manor and Snape. They should place the scene where the death eaters invade Hogwarts and the speech right before the wedding preparation imo. The film will have too many opening scenes if they place all these scenes in the beginning. They worked this out fine in HBP by cutting "the Other Minister" chapter and by placing the Spinner's End scene 10 minutes later and focusing on Harry/Dumbledore relationship and the bridge attack.

I think they should open DH exactly like the book with LV and everyone at Malfoy Manor. From there I think they could go into flashbacks of the cave and DD's death and then onto Rufus Scrimgeour and his speech and all the attcks and invasions of magical places. But I definitely think 'The Dark Lord Ascending' should be the first thing we see.

*Actually after reading Noldus' way of opening the film I think his idea is better, opening with flashbacks of DD's death and more focus on Snape there and then straight to chapter one of the book. Maybe they could make it look like Snape's flash-backing as he's heading for Malfoy Manor or something.
Then to Scrimgeour and his speech, because they talk of infiltrating the Ministry in chapter one, so it could be a good shift between chapter 1 and Rufus' speech, maybe.

Or perhaps it's right to begin with some action. Then it can start with the death eaters invading Hogwarts followed by Malfoy Manor. The flashbacks can be later and be part of Harry's nightmares. The speech should still be right before the wedding preparation so non-readers remember that guy when he comes with Dumbledore's will. I don't know what my opinion is anymore. All the HP films have brilliant opening scenes so I think they know what they are doing.

I think they should open DH exactly like the book with LV and everyone at Malfoy Manor. From there I think they could go into flashbacks of the cave and DD's death and then onto Rufus Scrimgeour and his speech and all the attcks and invasions of magical places. But I definitely think 'The Dark Lord Ascending' should be the first thing we see.

:agree:

I don't much like the idea of starting the film with a flashback. They have done that for the last couple films now, haven't they? And I really think an extended one like he described would feel too much like a "previously on..." TV re-cap. :relax: Is this flashback really that necessary?

Dark Lord Ascending sets the mood for the film so much better, IMO. The audience will immediatly feel that sense of danger again when they hear Lord Voldemort's plans. And I imagine Malfoy Manor providing a dark and ominous atmosphere. Plus, as some have suggested in the past...it could be cool to begin and end part one in the same location, if it's to end with being taken to Malfoy Manor as we think. :whistle:

HBP is the only one that started with a flashback, but I agree even if I kinda liked the idea minutes ago. They shouldn't be repetitive. Malfoy Manor is no bad idea, but now I actually want the invation of Hogwarts as the opening scene and then cut to Malfoy Manor.

HBP is the only one that started with a flashback, but I agree even if I kinda liked the idea minutes ago. They shouldn't be repetitive. Malfoy Manor is no bad idea, but now I actually want the invation of Hogwarts as the opening scene and then cut to Malfoy Manor.

Oh, yeah I guess the Graveyard flashback in OotP came a bit later when Harry was sleeping before "Advance Guard". Hmm, I was thinking I'd prefer it to occur during a nightmare Harry has before everyone arrives for the 7 Potters scenes...but that'd feel even more repetitive!

Well, I'm not sure then but either starting with Malfoy Manor or an action scene like you said is best. They can find somewhere to squeeze in the flashback if it's really all the necessary. But there is going to be so many flashbacks in these films as is, they really don't need to add more. I've said this before, but I'll say it's again- it's not the director's responsibility to make sure the audience is up to speed. With a series like this, the audience is responsible for knowing what happened in the previous films. Anyways, wouldn't it make more sense to place the Astronomy Tower flashback in Part 2 to help get across the whole thing with Elder Wand? Perhaps shown during the final confrontation :hmm:

For those of you who believe dream_silently...
The torture scene is quite shocking. I think you'll love it. Bellatrix does slightly a bit more to Hermione.In addition to this, Draco is shocked and hides in the shadows. He is disgusted. It's a very sad moment of Draco Malfoy who keeps showing his vulnerable side in both parts. Even Narcissa and Lucius are slightly shocked. Ron sheds tears and shouts desperately. There are two brilliant tender scenes at the Shell Cottage where Hermione breaks down in Ron's arms at the beach and later, Ron takes care of her inside the house. In the end, when the Trio discusses the Gringotts break-in Ron tells her that she is too weak to participate in this dangerous mission. (emphasis added)

So what do guys think? Will she use her knife, the sword of :gryff:, or perhaps a spell, like Sectrumsempra, (if she know's it) or a twist on Wingardium Leviosa to throw Hermione around the room *shudders* :sad:.

:agree:

I don't much like the idea of starting the film with a flashback. They have done that for the last couple films now, haven't they? And I really think an extended one like he described would feel too much like a "previously on..." TV re-cap. :relax: Is this flashback really that necessary?

Dark Lord Ascending sets the mood for the film so much better, IMO. The audience will immediatly feel that sense of danger again when they hear Lord Voldemort's plans. And I imagine Malfoy Manor providing a dark and ominous atmosphere. Plus, as some have suggested in the past...it could be cool to begin and end part one in the same location, if it's to end with being taken to Malfoy Manor as we think. :whistle:
Now you've got me changing my mind again :lol: 'Dark Lord Ascending' would set the mood rather well and I think I like the idea of starting and ending the film in the same location, Malfoy Manor.
I don't mind the flashback, but perhaps it could be used later on somewhere?

I think I missed some of this dream_silently stuff! Where are you finding this info?

Now you've got me changing my mind again :lol: 'Dark Lord Ascending' would set the mood rather well and I think I like the idea of starting and ending the film in the same location, Malfoy Manor.
I don't mind the flashback, but perhaps it could be used later on somewhere?

I think I missed some of this dream_silently stuff! Where are you finding this info?

Except, this might sound silly but could starting and ending the film in the same location actually have an adverse effect? :hmm: Might people feel like they went around in a big circle just to end up back where they started 2.5 hrs later? :lol: And especially with no true resolution... :whistle:

Oh, yeah I guess the Graveyard flashback in OotP came a bit later when Harry was sleeping before "Advance Guard". Hmm, I was thinking I'd prefer it to occur during a nightmare Harry has before everyone arrives for the 7 Potters scenes...but that'd feel even more repetitive!

Well, I'm not sure then but either starting with Malfoy Manor or an action scene like you said is best. They can find somewhere to squeeze in the flashback if it's really all the necessary. But there is going to be so many flashbacks in these films as is, they really don't need to add more. I've said this before, but I'll say it's again- it's not the director's responsibility to make sure the audience is up to speed. With a series like this, the audience is responsible for knowing what happened in the previous films. Anyways, wouldn't it make more sense to place the Astronomy Tower flashback in Part 2 to help get across the whole thing with Elder Wand? Perhaps shown during the final confrontation :hmm:

Yes, it isn't any point in this flashback apart from setting the tone and the mood of the film, but I hope they use it later in the film it they absolutely have to.

I think I missed some of this dream_silently stuff! Where are you finding this info?

It came from here- http://www.harrypotterforum.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=1072&page=1

Take all of this with a grain of salt cause his validity is still up in the air, but all the info is spread out between 2 of my posts...

Yes, that's the impression I'm getting too. If he's fake, he's taking it to a ridiculous level! :lol: I mean, SCOOP was nothing compared to this..


Ok, here's everything this person has posted so far...but take it with a grain of salt till we have further proof-


dream_silently 2 days ago
Part I's shooting hasn't finished yet. They haven't filmed most scenes with Lord Voldemort (they will finish these scenes in late January) and they are about to begin the shooting of the Ministry of Magic battle which will be epic. Imelda Staunton comes back and there will be three parts of the battle: first, duels with Umbridge and Death Eaters, then a Dementors chase (which will be quite scary) and finally a really intense showdown in the Atrium (which is completely DIFFERENT. Black tiles, very low silver light, rock formations and a very murky atmosphere.) In addition, they will travel to Scotland for more background shooting for both films (most part of this will take place next Spring, though).

Concerning Part One: the Seven Potters battle takes place mostly in the air. Little Whinging, London downtown, English countryside and the exterior of the Burrow. When they all reach the reeds surrounding the Burrow there will be a chase inside the fields and marshes, similar to the HBP one. The Death Eaters will try to reach the house but there is going to be a gigantic protective sphere protexting the house from them. The entire sequence is going to be one of the best action sequences of the series (until Part 2). Furthermore, another battle happens right after the wedding. The protective sphere is smashed and the duels will be massive (wait for great action scenes with Greyback,Lucius, Bellatrix, Lupin, Tonks and the Weasleys). In addition, the Silver Doe scene will be quite similar to the Cave scene in HBP. It's happening in the depths of a completely snow-covered forest and the lake is going to be pretty big (not a pond). Harry will do a lot of swimming until he finds out the sword in the depths of the lake. The diving scenes (there is going to be lots of ice too) are going to be pretty scary and haunting. Furthermore, the Death Eaters will come to that place after Ron saves Harry and destroys the Locket.There will be a brief battle inside the snowy forest before they meet Hermione and apparate to a snowy mountain.
There will also be lots of scenes with the Death Eaters. We'll see them wreaking some havoc. The film will feature few scenes at Hogwarts (and the Astronomy Tower set will be used for 2 scenes and it will be important in Part 2 too). In the beginning of the film, there will be a moment where Snape watches Dementors flying over the lake and mountains and Death Eaters guarding the walls of Hogwarts and invading the courtyards and the Great Hall.
The film is supposed to finish when the Snatchers destroy Xenophilius Lovegood's tower-house and they chase the kids in the forest. There will be a massive fight scene but the trio will be captured and transported to Malfoy Manor. Voldemort will be at Numerngard and he will fly over the stormy ocean to go and catch Harry.

Some few details about Part 2:

it's turning out to be the most epic film of the series (and one of the most epic ones ever). The Malfoy Manor and Shell Cottage scenes have been filmed. The Manor battle will be MUCH MUCH bigger than what you actually expect. The set is HUGE. It's actually like a big castle and battles will take place in many places and towers. They have started shooting Gringotts scenes last week and they'll wrap sometime in January. The entire climactic war sequence at Hogwarts is going to be amazing. The filming started in mid-October and they wrapped shooting a part of it last week. They will continue shooting few stuff in December,January and February(but during that time they will be shooting mostly: Gringotts,Voldemort's quest,Ministry heist and Snape/Dumbledore pensieve scenes). They will focus on the battle in late February and they will wrap shooting it in early/mid-May before shooting the epilogue (which will be the last scene to film). They were filming the battle for 4 entire weeks and they haven't filmed more than 20% of it. It's going to be huge. And I'm talking about the BATTLE. Not the limbo scene with Harry and Dumbledore or the Pensieve or the forest confrontation with Voldemort.
They have shot action scenes in the two main courtyards, in the Great Hall and the Entrance Hall and Moving Staircases. The Great Hall is really damaged. Finally, the Fiendfyre sequence was filmed in August and it's going to be the most amazing way to prepare the audience for the war scenes.

That's all for now. I'll come back to update you.
dream_silently 2 days ago
I'll give you some artwork pics at Christmas but now I am afraid I can't.

The art department is working really hard these days. There are many different sketches for the Harry/Dumbledore limbo sequence.

Part 1 will truly feel like a 'road film' as Yates said. All scenes will have a very eerie atmosphere of danger. Part 2 will be more straightforward, let's say. The really nice thing that they're doing is the fact that we will be able to see Voldemort's own journey to find the Elder Wand. So the first part will not focus only on the Trio.

Personally, though, I think that the best action scene will be the Gringotts break-in. The artwork is mind-blowing.
dream_silently 2 days ago
I forgot to mention:


Snape will not get killed in the Shrieking Shack. I'll leave it as a surprise but the place where he dies is very very very interesting.

These scenes are to be shot these months.

You will really like Ron's own journey after he leaves Harry and Hermione. There is a scene with him and the Snatchers and we see him being alone in the countryside and we see all the mysterious things with the Deluminator. When Harry sees the Silver Doe (the second time because he sees it in another forest before and as he approaches it disappears) we see a shadow. It's all very dark and intense but it's Ron. The Horcrux scene will be really frightening. The Harry/Hermione kiss has been shot months ago and they'll be like black/grey ghosts with red eyes approaching to kiss. Voldemort's voice will be heard, too. And Rupert did an amazing job (he was trembling and turning into evil and crying at the same time). As they leave, they hear strange voices and DEs apparate in the distant trees. They run and hide. The DEs fly in black smoke and they're all masked. Harry and Ron find Hermione and they apparate just when the DEs create some sort of a maelstrom around the place. As they apparate on a snowy mountain, they see Hogwarts far far away behind some mountains. It has a very nostalgic feel. Hermione gets all crazy with Ron but things get better when they begin traveling again.

And about Shell Cottage. The exterior scenes are beautiful. The distant cliffs, the beach and the infinite sea, the cottage. There's a beautiful pic with Shell Cottage during sunset and Harry alone at the beach looking at the sea. The entire beginning of Part 2 will have this feel of the final 'golden' moments before the war at Hogwarts (the Dragon flight is also a beautiful scene).

That's all for today. I'll come back in the upcoming days to update.
Goodnight.
dream_silently 1 day ago
I won't reveal this. But it's surprising, yet it completely fits with the script.

And I think that fans will love Snape's death foreshadowing. There is a scene where he completely feels that he is going to be killed. They haven't shot these scenes but they are about to.

Overall, the entire Battle of Hogwarts is going to surprise you. There are many new sequences and some twists.


Ask whatever you want about the films (especially Part 1 since it's 90% finished).
dream_silently 1 day ago
1)Is there a Hogsmeade scene with the trio in Part 1 ?
2)Will we see DD's Funeral and if not how the White Tomb - Elder Wand thing will be introduced ?
3)Someone told us that there is some kind of "fight-duel" between Cissy and Bella.Is that true?
4)When DEs arrive at the Wedding do we get to see the battle that follows or we just see the trio apparating?
5)How does Part1 start ?
6)Tell us things that Yates has added to the films.
7)What has he cut ?
8)Do you have any script extracts?


1. No they don't. The whole plot with Aberforth is a mystery (they discuss the mirror shard at Shell Cottage a lot) up until the entire sequence at Hogsmeade before the Hogwarts battles.

2.No the funeral hasn't been filmed. But yes they show Dumbledore's tomb and there is a scene where Voldemort takes the Elder Wand (in the first half of Part 2)

3.There is no duel between the two of them. But we see a lot more going on in Malfoy Manor and Spinner's End than what you might expect.

4. There is mayhem. Absolute chaos. The Trio doesn't fight a lot-actually they apparate quite quickly. But we see others fighting the Death Eaters.Similar battle is happening as they reach the Burrow after the air sequence. The second time,though, the Death Eaters are not trying to attack from distance. Now they eventually break the protective sphere and wreak havoc.

5.It's a very dark opening. There are 4 scenes but they don't know which is going to be the really first one: the Malfoy Manor meeting, Death Eaters invade Hogwarts,Hogsmeade,Diagon Alley and Knockturn Alley, Rufus Scrimgeour gathers all Aurors and ministry officials to talk about Voldemort's ascending and a long flashback of Dumbledore's death sequence.

6. Why should I spoil this? I think I've said enough about some additional scenes.


BRAVEHEART,

Greyback doesn't only attack Katie Bell actually. You'll see more characters in danger as well as Bill Weasley and Ginny.
Yes Nagini does 'finish' Snape. Won't say anything else. This is turning out to be the best moment of the series.
Voldemort plays a lot. And yes he has a few more scenes than in the book. Especially in Part One. Snape plays a lot more, too because we see more scenes at Hogwarts in Part One.
The cafe attack is really fast-paced and intense. I think you'll like it.
There is a scene where Regulus and Kreacher go to the crystal island to get the Locket. The inferi are featured there. There are thoughts of adding them to the Battle but it's unlikely.
There are scenes at Hogwarts that are completely new. I'll just mention that we'll see the Death Eaters patrolling around Hogwarts, the new D.A. making its plans and Snape moments that you'll enjoy.
The Seven Potters battle will be quite amazing. We will see Moody falling but there's so much chaos that there is no time to think about it. The realisation comes afterwards.
They're in negotiations about the score but I'm pretty sure they've already decided.


Tom,
the Godric's Hollow sequence is going to be really amazing actually. Do you really want to spoil yourself?


Well I have worked on Godric's Hollow construction in the art department and I can tell you some more details about it, if you want.
dream_silently 1 day ago
Sopho,

Death Eaters attack Muggles in Part 1.

The end of DH1 may change. There are two possibilities: the Snatchers capture the Trio and take them to Malfoy Manor or the Trio apparates to Sheel Cottage right after Dobby's death. The first is more possible though. I think it has a nice climax. Actually some people may get angry because of the many new battle sequences but the entire film will have multiple 'climaxes' let's say. There are very few calm moments and these moments are full of emotions and loneliness. 80% is this ultimate sense of danger and this endless chase in various places.

Yes Tonks appears more. Luna has few scenes at the Burrow and at Hogwarts but she has more scenes than in the book. Greyback is an important character in both films. So no worries.




Braveheart,

both deaths happen the same way. Wormtails' death is shocking and creepy. Dobby has a few more scenes in Pt.1 (at the Burrow and another time while Harry is into the wild) and all his scenes are very cute. He is very lovable and nice and that's why his death will be really sad. That's the main reason they think about putting his death in the finale of Pt.1. They want to keep all his scenes in one film and not put his death to the opening of Pt.2 because the audience may not feel as sad as they should.
dream_silently 1 day ago
Bellatrix has more screen time than in the first half of the book but it's equal to her screentime in HBP. It depends, though. if they eventually add the Malfoy Manor sequence in Pt1 then she will have much more screentime because it's a huge scene and she has a really big part in it.
dream_silently 1 day ago
-Greyback is actually the same he was in HBP. He has more 'brutal' scenes especially in the Battle of Hogwarts.
-Eduardo Serra's work is absolutely AMAZING. Have you seen his work on Wings of a Dove and Blood Diamond? Imagine these amazing differences in the colours of each scene. DH1 is extremely dark and gritty but there are many moments where it's extremely artsy and stylish. You will be dazzled.
-Rita Skeeter plays mostly in Part 1. Her role in Part 2 is very small.
-The 7 Potters have lots of characters: Harry,Ron,Hermione,Lupin,Tonks,Moody,Bill,Fleur,Ma ndungus,Arthur,Fred,Hagrid and George. Of course Voldemort,Lucius,Bellatrix,Greyback,Yaxley and other DEs.
-The Snatchers are violent. You will like them.
-Yes Kingsley is back. No worries.
-They are to shoot Snape's memories. I won't say anything but imagine the combination of the extraordinary special effects of the memories in HBP along with the extremely dark,ominous and emotional story that unfolds Snape's true identity. It's going to be an amazing sequence.
-Ginny doesn't play a lot in DH1 because it's more about the Trio traveling and hiding and fighting but yes she has a decent amount of screentime.
-Sirius' mirror will be introduced very early in the film. I won't say much because I'll spoil it but it has to do with Grimmauld Place. I won't say anything else. You can guess though.

Chris,
I will post an artwork pic of Godric's Hollow and maybe Malfoy Manor. But you know, I'll try to hide as much as possible. It's risky.
dream_silently 1 day ago
The flashback with Dumbledore will be a combination of the Cave/Astronomy Tower/Snape's flight scenes. It's one of the nightmares that Harry has throughout the first film.

There are enough scenes with Snape and Dumbledore in Pt.2. No worries. Just not much stuff with Lily. There are fewer but really to-the-point scenes.

McGonagall has a lot of screentime. Don't worry guys. There are two films. Everyone gets the screentime they deserve.

Thiego,
the scenes in Harry's bedroom are very small. Harry wakes from a terrible nightmare and we see the Daily Prophet. He checks his things and he sees dark figures in Privet Drive and clouds gathering in the sky. The foreboding is EVERYWHERE in the first part. And it foreshadows the battle in the air that is about to come.
dream_silently 1 day ago
Gellert's scenes are very short and there are pictures in the Daily Prophet and in Skeeter's book. There are very very few and short flashbacks but we see much more of him as an old wizard who faces Voldemort. Voldemort is chasing him throughout various places.Voldemort's journey is longer in Pt.1.
Harry is in denial. He doesn't believe a thing about Dumbledore in the beginning but later he is extremely frustrated. His scene with Dumbledore in the end of Part 2 will be one of the most emotional ones (along with Snape's memories,death and Harry's walk to Voldemort).
Oh, the scene with Aberforth has been filmed and is very very powerful. The story with Arriana is touching. There is not as much as in the book but it's enough for the film.
dream_silently 1 day ago
Guys I need to sleep.


Well braveheart,
there is a scene where the Death Eaters fly over Hogwarts and invade the castle and patrol the grounds and walls. Snape watches the Dementors flying in the sky surrounding the mountains. It's a beautiful sequence in the script. There are many rumors that Kloves will change parts of the DH1 opening (to open immediately with Voldemort's scenes) but this scene is the second scene of the script right now.
dream_silently 1 day ago
I don't want to disappoint you, Thiego, but it's similar to the HBP kiss. It lasts a little longer but that's it. Though,they kiss properly in Part 2's finale.
dream_silently 1 day ago
Well there is a lot of build-up. From the very beginning, Ron is overprotective during the 7 Potters sequence. There are moments between the two of them but Ron is really jealous afterwards. When they reunite, Hermione is angry towards him and she eventually cries and falls on a chair and he comes and reluctantly hugs her. Then there are some short moments (when the Snatchers capture them and especially when Bellatrix tortures her) and there are tender moments at Shell Cottage where Ron is really taking care of her. Their kiss takes place in the Chamber of Secrets (much changed set).
dream_silently 1 day ago
Thiego, I'll answer your questions and I'll leave. Sorry.

Mundungus...Yes and no. Well, there is a brand new sequence at Knockturn Alley where Kreacher finds him.I won't say more though.

The dance scene is a cute moment. It happens before the Godric's Hollow moments. Both Harry and Hermione are devastated and they don't talk to each other. harry is thoughtful, Hermione cries or sits alone in the countryside and at the same time, we see Death Eaters following them. During these moments we see lots of Voldemort's quest and Hogwarts scenes. After some time, they are together and Harry tries to cheer her up and they have a quick dance (it's not a dance actually. Just few moves and turns and they laugh and talk about Ron).
Hermione doesn't dance with Harry at the wedding. Actually Harry comes late and when he comes, very few minutes later, the DEs attack.


That's all for today. I'm going to sleep.
Bye. :)
dream_silently 1 day ago
Um no.

After the Godric's Hollow scenes there are extremely few scenes before the Silver Doe sequence.
And I think it's logical that this scene happens after Ron's leaving. It's Harry's way to cheer Hermione up. And that is the moment they first talk about Ron.

Anyway, if you don't believe me it's perfectly alright. I haven't given any proof so it's completely OK. I just wanted to inform you.
That's all.

Goodnight you all.
dream_silently 17 hours ago
1. The Neville VS Nagini scene hasn't been filmed yet. But the artwork is jaw-dropping. Every moment in Part 2 finale will be brilliant. Trust me.
They do as much as possible. They want to give the series a proper-epic-climax.

2. The fight between Bellatrix and Molly is...different. Not much different but it happens in a different set. Molly shows her real powers and, I've got to tell you, Bella's death is sad. The way she collapses and Voldemort flies and screams and blasts almost everything will be epic.

3.That's a really unpredictable and smart question. Yes she does. And it's a moment that all Ron/Hermione fans will love. Do you really want to be spoiled?

4.Yes Greyback truly attacks Bill in the first battle sequences of Part One. He also fights Lupin-twice-, threatens Tonks and attacks Katie Bell and Ginny. Some scenes are at the Burrow attack but most of it happens during the Hogwarts battle. Oh, and don't worry about Molly's fury towards Bellatrix in the end of Part 2. Bellatrix is not a really pleasant character. She does A LOT to the Weasleys and to Fleur (not to mention that she kills Tonks, who is like Molly's daughter in the films).



Avangelis,

-Well, don't expect too many creatures actually. It's 90% a wizards battle. And that's what they're aiming.

-Not really. It's slightly different but it has this nostalgic feel. It happens at King's Cross as in the book. It finishes though with the train approaching Hogwarts. And we see the Castle at the sunset in its old beauty (because the battle has damaged half of it before). It's a similar shot of the first scene we see the castle in the 'Philosopher's Stone'. It is more majestic though. The artwork is beautiful.

-The torture scene is quite shocking. I think you'll love it. Bellatrix does slightly a bit more to Hermione.In addition to this, Draco is shocked and hides in the shadows. He is disgusted. It's a very sad moment of Draco Malfoy who keeps showing his vulnerable side in both parts. Even Narcissa and Lucius are slightly shocked. Ron sheds tears and shouts desperately. There are two brilliant tender scenes at the Shell Cottage where Hermione breaks down in Ron's arms at the beach and later, Ron takes care of her inside the house. In the end, when the Trio discusses the Gringotts break-in Ron tells her that she is too weak to participate in this dangerous mission.

Electrix,
There are few scenes with her in Part 1. In Part 2, yes she does confront Snape and she is absolutely breathtaking in some scenes where she fights MANY Death Eaters.

Slughorn doesn't fight that much but there is a really emotional scene with him and Harry before the battle.


Leo,

-Well the Epilogue is at King's Cross. It ends with the train traveling through Scotland and reaching Hogwarts. It's a truly beautiful scene. It's sunset and we will see some amazing aerial shots of the castle and its grounds. It's quite similar to Half-Blood Prince's final scene concerning the sky's colours and the peaceful atmosphere.

-I don't know if fans will like it because it's a much longer fight. The Great Hall is completely smashed and there is no ceiling-just ruins. We see all the towers surrounding them and the dark red sun is rising behind the gigantic black and grey clouds (because of the fire and the ashes and the storm). It's going to be epic. Harry and Voldemort exchange more spells. They collide or are blocked from protective spheres. The final moment is so intense that everyone goes away because of how fierce the confrontation is. I think you'll love it. But maybe not. Imagine the Great Hall set without the tables, without the ceiling, without half its walls and all its windows completely smashed. All the ruins are on the floor and we see the deep red/black-grey cloudy sky over Voldemort and Harry and all the half destroyed towers and bridges surrounding them. I think it's a great improvement.

-Well, lots of characters return! The Dursleys, Moody, Kingsley, Umbridge, Oliver Wood, Angelina Johnson, Dobby, Kreacher, Lucius, Ollivanders, Fleur, Viktor Krum, Madam Maxime, Sirius and Harry's parents, Dumbledore, Voldemort (obviously), Rita Skeeter etc. Almost everyone returns.


dream_silently 17 hours ago
1.Nobody asked you about Bathlida Bagshot. So I do it - how this scene looks like?
2.There are a youngest versions of Snape/Lily/ Petunia in the Part 2 in flashbacks?
3. When we first see Dobby - how they introduce him (is it mention abou his kitchen work)?
4. When they are going to say anything about the Hallows and the famous logo for the first time ?
5. Are they planning a crowd of house elfs in the battle in Part 2?


-The Bathilda scene is one of the creepiest. They have filmed it and I've got to tell you the way the snake appears is shocking. There is some clever camera work (kudos to Serra again) where we see Bathilda completely still and frozen and Harry is slightly scared and backs off. Nagini's hiss is heard and Bathilda's body falls below at the stairwell and Nagini attacks. Very clever camera work. I mean, you get it that the snake came from her body but you don't see it appearing from her neck. There is clever editing. When Nagini appears, Bathilda's body is falling in the shadows.

-No I am afraid you won't see little Petunia. But Kloves is still working on few parts of the script but I highly doubt they'll change this. But we see Snape and Lily as small kids and teens. Though these scenes are extremely brief. There is a new one where both of them are adults, though. The main memories have to do with Snape and Dumbledore. Snape's part is amazingly emotional and I am 100% sure that Rickman will be breathtaking.

-Dobby appears very early at the Burrow. Yes he does mention he works at Hogwarts. It's a sweet moment. They meet Dobby AGAIN at the countryside.

-No house elves in the climax. But Kreacher is there. :)

-Oh the DH logo. It appears very early and rumor has it the logo will be used in Part 2's intro.
dream_silently 16 hours ago
Gwenyth,
this is wrong. The only same thing is the fact that the film ends with the sunset.

blackvenom,

The Silver Doe scene:

Harry follows the Doe in the forest (he has seen it once more before) and goes to the lake(which is a big and completely frozen). Harry has to swim to the middle of the lake and he does so. Then he has to dive in the depths where the sword lies. When Harry is diving in the deep, he can't move and breathe from the cold and Ron comes and saves him. It's a longer sequence than the one in the book. Oh I forgot to mention that before all that, we see 4 Death Eaters flying over the snowy forests. Foreshadowing. Well Harry is saved and he and Ron embrace each other. Then Ron destroys the Horcrux. This moment is very emotional and intense. Ron has to face Harry and Hermione's 'smokey ghosts' who approach to kiss. He hears Voldemort's voice and his eyes turn red. He screams and cries and finally smashes the Locket. He calms down and tells Harry how difficult it was for him to be alone into the wild. As they walk back to find Hermione they talk about Voldemort and the Death Eaters. This is the time where Ron reveals Voldemort's name is Tabooed. They suddenly hear some distant noise. They turn around and run behind some trees with their wand lit. Masked Death Eaters patrol the forest. Harry and Ron are running but the DEs see their shadows and fire spells. Ron protects Harry from the spells and Harry fires back. Another DE is flying over the trees and Harry shouts at Hermione and the three of them gather and apparate just on time when the DEs fly in a maelstrom formation towards the trees surrounding the Trio.


Yes there is a new action sequence at Diagon Alley where Kreacher, Harry, Ron and Hermione chase Mandungus in the Knockturn Alley. But the DEs are there and there is a longer chase in the alleys. We see Borgin and Burkes again which has become the DEs base let's say. It's a cool foreshadowing scene because we see masked Death Eaters protecting Gringotts too.
dream_silently 16 hours ago
dream_loudly,

yes the Ron/Hermione relationship is well developed. No worries.

And yes Snape's love for Lily is perfectly established, I think. Especially during Snape's confession to Dumbledore.
dream_silently 16 hours ago
The logo that will appear in the film hasn't been made yet.
This may be a trailer one but I highly doubt it's the same that you'll see in the film's opening.

I work in the art department.

There are many additions but they're not overwhelming. Actually there are many brief scenes that are new. Very few are completely new and long.

Well about the running time: around 2 hours and a half. It's the usual pattern. Don't expect a 3-hour film though. That's not going to happen. Especially now that the book is split in 2 parts.



Gwenyth,

There are very few scenes with Harry and Ginny I am afraid. But I'm sure you'll love the Fiendfyre scene in the battle of Hogwarts where they are together and try to save each other.
dream_silently 15 hours ago
No Harry and Hermione go to Godric's Hollow alone.

It's Hogsmeade. They go to Hogsmeade in Pt. 1 but they don't meet Aberforth. This is a completely new scene. They try to go to Hogwarts after Ron's return and before the trip to Xeno Lovegood. The reason they go has to do with Ginny and Snape. I won't say anything else. But if you want to be spoiled I can tell you more. They go to Hogsmeade again in Pt.2 though where they meet Aberforth.
Do you remember when I told you that they apparate to mountains close to Hogwarts? Well after few scenes they try to go to Hogsmeade but they fail to enter the Hogwarts Grounds. That's one of the completely new and long scenes that shouldn't be spoiled for you I guess.
dream_silently 14 hours ago
Hi DemonStar,

thanks for your wishes I really appreciate that.

Oh the Godric's Hollow scene is truly beautiful. I think it's the moment where Dan truly delivers. Radcliffe is a good actor and in my opinion, he was very entertaining and more mature in 'Phoenix' and 'Prince'.
But in Deathly Hallows he is magnificent. They haven't filmed the Forest scenes at the end of Pt.2 but they've filmed the graveyard scene in Godric's Hollow and it's one of the saddest moments.They are not polyjuiced, no. You see all their emotions and especially Harry's. Before these scenes, there were two nice scenes between Harry and Hermione-the one talking about their friendship and Ron and the other talking about Voldemort and going to Godric's Hollow. During the graveyard scene their friendship is tighter than ever. You feel they are best friends and Hermione embraces Harry in the end. It's a beautiful scene. I am definitely sure you'll love it.


The Lily's death flashback is different-much different than the book one. But it's long enough and powerful enough.
dream_silently 14 hours ago
I don't want to spoil it for you but I can tell you this:

She hears Voldemort telling her that all her loved ones will be gone and that 'he' (Ron obviously) will be gone. It has to do with death. Hermione,though,destroys the Cup quickly and after it's been destroyed she loses consciousness and Ron holds her. It's a moment that shows how much Hermione cares for Ron. They have already kissed, though. The entire Chamber of Secrets is a Ron/Hermione moment for all their fans.
dream_silently 14 hours ago
Do you think that the script of DH is better than HBP?
Are Ginny, Neville and Luna punished?
Is the quibbler important in the first film? And the prophet?


Sopho,

I really liked the Prince script,to be honest. It is my favourite film along with 'Azkaban'. I think that both DH parts will top them, though.
And yes the script includes 80% of what's been in the book. And they've added their things that just make both parts better.

Yes Ginny,Neville and Luna are punished. There is also a scene where the Death Eaters attack Hagrid, who runs in the depths of the Forbidden Forest.

Yeah. Hermione gets the Quibbler regularly and says that Xeno is the only one who supports them risking his own life. The Daily Prophet is OK in the beginning because it supports Harry and Scrimgeour but afterwards it bashes Harry and supports Voldemort. There are also wanted posters of the Trio. You'll see lots of them in Diagon Alley, Hogsmeade and in the Daily Prophet.
dream_silently 14 hours ago
nessie,

well Voldemort says exactly the same things to Ron BUT Ron doesn't do anything which helps Voldemort's soul create Harry and Hermione's 'ghosts'. Voldemort says how she doesn't like him at all etc. It's almost like the book's scene. Now, Voldemort tells Hermione that Ron doesn't feel the way she does and that he'll be gone-all her loved ones will be gone. And she shouldn't have faith. And at that moment, something 'evil' is about to appear (possible Ron's ghost?) but Ron shouts at her that she should destroy it and Hermione screams and stabs the Horcrux with the Basilisk fang. So she destroys it quickly. And as the Cup is being destroyed, she cries and loses consciousness and Ron runs next to her and embraces her.
dream_silently 13 hours ago
Hermione's scene with her parents is very short but it's emotional.
Part One is going to feel very real. Actually it won't feel like a Harry Potter film at all in most parts.

Fran,

well this is one of the scenes that I don't know much.
I know that it begins over Little Whinging, the air battles continue over towns and London, then the chase happens on the ground before they fly again and battle in the countryside. All of them reach the reeds surrounding the Burrow and the DEs hit on the protective sphere. Harry and Hagrid are the first to arrive and Harry sets off to find the others; this scene is similar to the Burrow Attack in 'Prince'. I won't reveal more but overall, the SEVEN POTTERS sequence will be very good.
dream_silently 13 hours ago
Well she's at the Dursleys. She's featured in the 7 Potters fight and she also has lots of scenes at the Burrow.
Then she's mostly at the Battle of Hogwarts. I must tell you that we see her battle with Bellatrix and it's going to be a very cool scene.
dream_silently 10 hours ago
dude,

You won't see anything shocking don't worry. The smoke formation of the ghosts is supposed to be Harry's skin. So it'll have to show muscles and...skin in general. The ghost has to seem more masculine and powerful. That's it.

Longbottom,

Yes Hogwarts is going to be really destroyed (not the entire castle but 60-70% of it)
Neville is really beaten up yeah. He's got many bruises and scatches. The burning Sorting Hat is in the script. No worries.


Lily,

Greyback attacks Ginny during the Battle of Hogwarts. He attacks Bill very early in the film during the fight sequences in the air.


Chester,

well Tonks is there when they all gather at the Burrow reeds and realise Moody is dead. There is a big talk scene at the living room where all of them have gathered. Then we see her and Molly talking and she's almost everywhere. Then she's at the Wedding BUT at the same time, she's doing some patrolling around the house along with other members of the Order. Finally she is fighting the Death Eaters when they attack.

Bereski,

I just saw the sneak peek.
It's for both films that's why Shell Cottage is in the beginning of the teaser.
The quality is pretty bad but all these London scenes in the busy road and Ron hiding behind the corner have great cinematography. Now that was Godric's Hollow scene where they find the Peverell grave. As I told you, they are NOT polyjuiced. As I've mentioned, it works better because we really see Harry's emotions and that's what they're aiming for.
dream_silently 10 hours ago
Yes Tonks and Lupin die together and we see their deaths.

No. The film begins with flashbacks to the Cave and Dumbledore's death scenes. The script says:

we hear Dumbledore screaming'Kill me!' and then we hear Harry shouting 'Snape! He trusted you!' and we see shots of the Cave sequence fading to Dumbledore VS Draco on the Astronomy Tower and it cuts to Snape killing Dumbledore, Dumbledore falling and Bellatrix making the Dark Mark. The camera travels inside the Dark Mark and we cut to the Ministry where Scrimgeour gives his speech. This fades to multiple attacks of Death Eaters to London and magical places (attack in Hogsmeade,Diagon Alley and they eventually invade Hogwarts along with Dementors). Then it cuts to the Malfoy Manor meeting, which is pretty much the same as in the book. Just Yaxley is not with Snape. Voldemort and Snape discuss the Order's plans and Charity is indeed killed. Then it cuts to Dumbledore,Snape and Voldemort shots and Harry wakes up scared and shocked. From that point, the Dursleys departing and the 7 Potters scenes begin.

But the beginning might change. Yates discusses about the change of these scenes' row or the addition of Dumbledore's white tomb.

dream_silently 5 hours ago
I told you I'll try to post the Hollow artwork.
Look I work in the art department. It's risky for me to do so and by telling you all these things I know it's completely reasonable that you need proof.
If I were you I would demand some proof too.
I'll try to do my best.

Now, if you don't believe me it's OK.


Miradon thanks for the support but it's alright.
I think I've said enough.
Goodnight. :)

It's a bit hard to decipher some posts without the one he/she was responding to, but I figured having 'em all in one place was convenient.

Plus, reading through all of those posts on that thread was too much work, so I think this might make it easier...just the important stuff :p

Yeah, I was just reading the thread myself. :lol:

It sounds incredibly silly but it seems to me like he's getting smart with the other person (so yes, sarcastic) but it's posssible they realize the jig is up cause they say they are done and not coming back. BTW, here is more info they revealed...but like be even more wary now-

dream_silently 6 hours ago edited
Chris,
I told you they do visit Hogsmeade in Part 1. They just don't meet Aberforth. The whole Aberforth story unfolds in Part 2.


They will not show the battle between Dumbledore and Grindelwald, no.
Yes the cafe fight is in the film. Actually you'll like the entire London chase, I think. When the Trio apparates, they start running in the streets. Then they feel they've been watched and try to calm down. We see DEs flying over London downtown and over the streets. The trio hides and changes clothes and as they exit, they recognize a Death Eater they've seen at the Burrow. They walk away quickly and go to the cafe shop where the Death Eaters attack.

Yes Snape's death is going to be graphic. There are no limits in both films.

Wilbo,
the Horcrux story is handled quite well I think. From what I know, Harry and Kreacher corner Mandungus in Diagon Alley/Knockturn Alley and learn that Umbridge has the real locket. Concerning the cup, Bellatrix is the one who asks Hermione if she stole the Gryffindor Sword and the Cup. Harry later realizes that this Cup must be a Horcrux and Hermione tells him that rumor has it, Hufflepuff's cup hasn't been found.This sets the entire story for the Ravenclaw Diadem, as well: Voldemort's interest in the ancient objects of the four founders of Hogwarts. Finally, Harry learns about the unknown Horcrux that's been hidden in Hogwarts and Nagini through Voldemort's mind who panicks when he learns the Locket, the Ring and the Cup have been destroyed. Ron and Hermione don't go with Harry to the Room of Requirement. They go to the Chamber of Secrets and Ginny guides Harry to the Room of Hidden Objects in order to find the tiara.


'Not my daughter, you *****' is in the film. Yes.

Yes there are many scenes where Harry 'reads' Voldemort's mind. These visions start very early in the film (at the Burrow) along with Harry's nightmares (Dumbledore,Snape and Sirius).

HalfBloodKing,

Xeno does discuss the Three Brothers tale and Hermione reads the book throughout all their days camping. The script doesn't have any flashback but there are pictures inside the book. I don't think they'll add any flashback but I can't be 100% sure. Until now, it's not in the script of Part 1.

Yes John Williams will possibly return but they are in negotiations with 2 other composers. But I think they've decided. I think they've said it'll be announced sometime these two forthcoming months.

The battle focuses mostly on wizards, yes. Though, we see spiders and Dementors. There aren't any house-elves and giants in the script but we've worked on giants approaching the castle in the art department. They are reluctant to include them, though. The Centaurs have very short scenes where they're inside the forest and shoot millions of arrows towards the Death Eaters at the end of the climax.
Yes there are some interesting scenes with the Dementors. We'll see Patronuses yes.


Now, I'll be working these weeks and I won't have much time to spend. I'll try to post an artwork sketch of Harry's parents' house or two parts of the script (possibly the Burrow and the Snatchers chase scenes). I've only got the Part 1 script-third draft. But I'm 90% sure they haven't changed almost anything. We've got very few parts of Part 2 (personally I've only got parts of Shell Cottage and Malfoy Manor and Snape's memories) becuase Steve Kloves is still working on parts of it.


Filming wraps in May.


I'll be gone for few days but I'll come back.
Bye.
dream_silently 5 hours ago
Almost all scenes with Dumbledore and Snape are in the film. They've cut most scenes with Petunia/Lily/Snape. The memories have a different structure in the film. It will work better cinematically.

The Ravenclaw plot is changed. Much changed. No we don't see Bloody Baron. This is one of the parts of the script that seems to change every time. Right now, the Grey Lady is not in the film. Harry learns that Voldemort's hidden the final Horcrux in Hogwarts, Hermione and Luna tell him about the Diadem being Ravenclaw's ancient object and Ginny remembers having hidden the HBP book next to something that seemed like a diadem. Ginny and Harry go to check, Draco,Goyle and Blaise attack, Harry realises this IS the Diadem and the Fiendfyre scene occurs.
dream_silently 2 hours ago
Hedwig's death is quick and shocking. There is so much chaos that there is no moment to let Harry grieve.
At the Burrow, though, he is very silent at one point where they briefly try to discuss Hedwig.
I think that's all.
It'll feel bad because this is an owl, an animal. And the audience knows that Harry Potter is the guy with the glasses, the scar, the broomstick and the owl. So it's shocking. But it doesn't last. The focus is Moody's death, George's injury and Voldemort's future plans.
In my opinion, the Burrow scenes are some of the best in DH.
I also forgot to mention that-do you remember in 'Prince' where the DEs tried to test Hogwarts defences hitting the protective sphere? The same thing happens again at the Burrow. One night, as Harry's still awake examining the Snitch, he hears distant sounds and takes his wand and sees few DEs trying to penetrate the Burrow grounds by testing its protection 'bubble'. And Harry sees few Death Eaters inside the reeds. It'll feel like they are all gathered at the house and few yards away, the Death Eaters are waiting for them.


Juno,
Maggie Smith doesn't have LOTS of scenes but she's got more screentime than in the book. And I mean that we see her at Hogwarts in Part 1, while we didn't in the book. She has began shooting scenes and she'll keep shooting until April/May.

About Hogwarts scenes in Part 1:
we don't see many scenes. Actually, in total, they will last less than 15 minutes altogether.
In the beginning there is this entire invasion of Death Eaters and Dementors, where Snape is watching from the Astronomy Tower and McGonagall,Slughorn,Flitwick,Sprout etc. watch from the Great Hall and courtyard.
Then we see Hogwarts Express going to Hogwarts with Death Eaters patrolling the train and the 'new' Trio talking in a compartment.
Then there are short scenes when they reach the Gates and the Death Eaters take the students away. The DEs are on the walls and grounds of Hogwarts. We have Snape's speech and then, if I remember correctly, the new Trio attempts to steal the Gryffindor Sword and Snape captures them. We also see Hagrid being attacked from DEs and fleeing to the woods and the new D.A. hiding in the new Room of Requirement. McGonagall has an argument with Snape,too and we also see a short montage of all teachers being controlled by DEs (a scene where Slughorn is followed by Death Eaters). That's pretty much everything. I forgot to mention the little glimpses of Draco, who is still very gloomy, lonely and sad. They keep his dark, silent and afraid profile in both DH parts. They are thinking of adding a few more, but they started shooting all this stuff in September so they may or they may not.
dream_silently 2 hours ago
Yes Draco is at Hogwarts.

Luna is at Malfoy Manor and, before that, we learn from Xeno that she's been trapped.


Bereski,

well they haven't changed something THAT much to make fans angry. I think that they have edited large parts of Snape's memories and they've also reduced the Dursleys scene to very few minutes. They have also cut major parts of the Trio's stay in the House of Black and that's all I think.
The other changes are many but small.

Completely big and important scene?
The Hogsmeade visit in Part 1 and the Knockturn Alley chase are new and important scenes,in my opinion. There are all these new scenes at Hogwarts, few skirmishes and fight scenes throughout the Trio's running into the wild and that's all.
dream_silently 2 hours ago
McGonagall has more screentime in Part 2 and I think she is featured as much as she was in Philosopher's Stone-which has the most of her.
There is indeed a confrontation with Snape yes. It's much different though. There are no daggers or armours. It's mostly spells and the use of the four elements- reminds a bit of the Dumbledore/Voldemort duel in 'Phoenix' but it's not as extravagant. Still, it will be very impressive.




Yes, it isn't any point in this flashback apart from setting the tone and the mood of the film, but I hope they use it later in the film it they absolutely have to.

And really I don't see how it sets the tone and mood. The flashback would not be a good choice for this, IMO. It's much better to put this in the second part to visually emphasize how the Elder Wand passed allegiance from one person to the next. And as MoD suggested long ago, probably a flashback of Harry taking the wand from Malfoy is a good idea to couple with this. The Elder Wand thing is quite convoluted :yuhup:

Except, this might sound silly but could starting and ending the film in the same location actually have an adverse effect? :hmm: Might people feel like they went around in a big circle just to end up back where they started 2.5 hrs later? :lol: And especially with no true resolution... :whistle:
Possibly. I guess it'll all depend on how well they end the first part and if they've resolved anything at all in part one and if they have any hint of a resolution to come in the next part. Which I think there would be, especially if they destroy the first Horcrux in the first part of the movie. Doing that, they will have accomplished something in part one, and it says that there is so much more to come in part 2, if they've discussed all the other Horcruxes in part one. They've got to leave the audience feeling like they want to return for the second part because they have to know what happens. I guess. If any of that made sense. I don't know. I'm terrible at this.

And thanks for all that dream_silently info lc! Gonna go read it now.

Possibly. I guess it'll all depend on how well they end the first part and if they've resolved anything at all in part one and if they have any hint of a resolution to come in the next part. Which I think there would be, especially if they destroy the first Horcrux in the first part of the movie. Doing that, they will have accomplished something in part one, and it says that there is so much more to come in part 2, if they've discussed all the other Horcruxes in part one. They've got to leave the audience feeling like they want to return for the second part because they have to know what happens. I guess. If any of that made sense. I don't know. I'm terrible at this.


Yeah, but this is why I think it's much better to end with Dobby's death. I mean for one what I just mentioned becomes a non-issue but as all of us who've been in support of this split for so long have said, it provides a more satisfying resolution than ending with a cliffhanger.

And thanks for all that dream_silently info lc! Gonna go read it now.

You're welcome :)

I'm not surprised you didn't see...they kinda got buried after the excitement when people realized the sneak peek/teaser was in Hi-Def :lol:

I
And really I don't see how it sets the tone and mood. The flashback would not be a good choice for this, IMO. It's much better to put this in the second part to visually emphasize how the Elder Wand passed allegiance from one person to the next. And as MoD suggested long ago, probably a flashback of Harry taking the wand from Malfoy is a good idea to couple with this. The Elder Wand thing is quite convoluted :yuhup:

I was trying to see it from the film makers point of view. I imagine them thinking it would set the tone and mood because Harry is frustrated at Dumbledore for not telling him much, and this frustration grows throughout the story. But I wouldn't mind if it got cut.

For those of you who believe dream_silently...
(emphasis added)

So what do guys think? Will she use her knife, the sword of :gryff:, or perhaps a spell, like Sectrumsempra, (if she know's it) or a twist on Wingardium Leviosa to throw Hermione around the room *shudders* :sad:.

I think it just means she will actually slit Hermione's throat a bit :shrug:



So does anyone have a vote for the other option as an opening...the Scrimgeour speech? :whistle: I'm just curious if anyone likes that best for the first scene. Personally I think that would feel out of place. It makes sense naturally to have it AFTER the Malfoy Manor scene, doesn't it? ;)

I hope some of those spoilers are true. It would be good to see some of Snape's Hogwarts actions, especially in re Ginny and the sword ON SCREEN. And it did not surprise me that they might move Snape's death to somewhere else. Though we lose the symbolism of the shack, it would tidy up the scene a bit. But I can't quite imagine where they would have it. ... ponders...

So does anyone have a vote for the other option as an opening...the Scrimgeour speech? I'm just curious if anyone likes that best for the first scene.

I recently read your post that included the several suggestions for the beginning of the film, and I actually would enjoy having Scrimgeour's speech as the first scene. Perhaps they could show Scrimgeour appearing before the photographers from the Daily Prophet as well as his fellow Ministry officials and begin his speech. His speech directly mentions Dumbledore's death and the public's want for Snape's capture as something of a narration above flashbacks of Dumbledore's death. Towards the speech's conclusion, have the camera pan over to a wanted poster of Snape nailed to a wall of the Atrium, and then have that transition to an image of Snape's mugshot in a copy of the Daily Prophet, similarly to the montages in Order of the Phoenix. They then show that Snape is holding this copy of the Daily Prophet as he approaches Malfoy Manor. "The Dark Lord Ascending" thus begins.

While I do not believe that this description was satisfactory enough to persuade others to think that this is the best opening, I can imagine it quite clearly in my head, which is the reason I suggested it.

I recently read your post that included the several suggestions for the beginning of the film, and I actually would enjoy having Scrimgeour's speech as the first scene. Perhaps they could show Scrimgeour appearing before the photographers from the Daily Prophet as well as his fellow Ministry officials and begin his speech. His speech directly mentions Dumbledore's death and the public's want for Snape's capture as something of a narration above flashbacks of Dumbledore's death. Towards the speech's conclusion, have the camera pan over to a wanted poster of Snape nailed to a wall of the Atrium, and then have that transition to an image of Snape's mugshot in a copy of the Daily Prophet, similarly to the montages in Order of the Phoenix. They then show that Snape is holding this copy of the Daily Prophet as he approaches Malfoy Manor. "The Dark Lord Ascending" thus begins.

While I do not believe that this description was satisfactory enough to persuade others to think that this is the best opening, I can imagine it quite clearly in my head, which is the reason I suggested it.

Hmm, I like that actually. :tu:

I can't say you persuaded me to think this is best, but I def wouldn't mind that. The speech can serve as a small re-cap yet at the same time move the plot forward and set the scene for "The Dark Lord Ascending". :cool: This is much better than starting with the flashback at least...

The flashback wouldn't serve much purpose for Part one as I think the only reason it might be needed is in connection with the Elder Wand sub-plot (which hasn't been introduced yet) to remind the audience of Dumbledore being disarmed. Anyone else agree it should be in Part 2?

Starting the film with Voldemort will be the best way,IMO.
He was absent in HBP so his appearance will really set the mood.
Then they can show a montage of Scrimgeour talking and DEs attacking Hogwarts.
And then cut to Harry I think.

I like the DD's death flashback idea but it may be a little bit too repetitive.

And it did not surprise me that they might move Snape's death to somewhere else. Though we lose the symbolism of the shack, it would tidy up the scene a bit. But I can't quite imagine where they would have it. ... ponders...

What is the symbolism of the shack? :whistle:

It's been suggested that it might be moved to the Astronomy Tower, which I think would be great! :tu: Doesn't that provide more symbolism or whatever? I mean wouldn't it be great parallel and irony for Snape to be murdered in the same place that he "murdered" Dumbledore? :cool:

:/ I do like to be true to the books, so I feel kind of biased saying that I think it should start with the Charity Burbage part before cutting to the 7 harry part!
I've been thinking about something- they cut out pretty much all of Bill and Flem's (I cannot spell her real name and don't have a book to spare!- nothing against her) relationship, so I don't think that they will put in their wedding especially since the burrow got burned down! So how do you think they will do the Ministry collapsing and the whole family bits?

:/ I do like to be true to the books, so I feel kind of biased saying that I think it should start with the Charity Burbage part before cutting to the 7 harry part!
I've been thinking about something- they cut out pretty much all of Bill and Flem's (I cannot spell her real name and don't have a book to spare!- nothing against her) relationship, so I don't think that they will put in their wedding especially since the burrow got burned down! So how do you think they will do the Ministry collapsing and the whole family bits?

It has been established that the Burrow has been re-built and that the wedding is in DH Part 1.

It's been suggested that it might be moved to the Astronomy Tower, which I think would be great! Doesn't that provide more symbolism or whatever? I mean wouldn't it be great parallel and irony for Snape to be murdered in the same place that he "murdered" Dumbledore?

I really hope this is the place. And imagine if Harry watched from the same place aswell. Other than the shrieking shack, I think this is the best place to have it.

As for the opening. I think I would like it to be the Malfoy Manor meeting. But I think Scrimgeour's speech would also work well. I think both opening's would give the audience the feeling that it really is coming to it's peak and the DE's are starting to become more powerful.

dream didn't say anything about the Astronomy Tower right? Or did he confirm this?

I really hope it's the Tower though. I can imagine Fiennes and Rickman with their black cloaks billowing at the balcony of the Tower. Perfect.

dream didn't say anything about the Astronomy Tower right? Or did he confirm this?

I really hope it's the Tower though. I can imagine Fiennes and Rickman with their black cloaks billowing at the balcony of the Tower. Perfect.

No, he didn't. It's just fan speculation based on what he said...which might not even be true to begin with :lol: But yeah, it would be perfect!


I think part of the reason for this speculation comes from when he mentioned the Astronomy Tower in his very first post-
There will also be lots of scenes with the Death Eaters. We'll see them wreaking some havoc. The film will feature few scenes at Hogwarts (and the Astronomy Tower set will be used for 2 scenes and it will be important in Part 2 too)

Though I'm not sure why the tower would be "interesting" like he said.

Maybe it's someplace really strange like in the Hogwarts Express (haha, I know. But since he said it was interesting you never know) or just in the Forbidden Forest?

Though I'm not sure why the tower would be "interesting" like he said.

Really? :err:

I think it would be an incredibly interesting and ironic place for it to occur. Who would expect Snape to be killed in the same location he killed Dumbledore?! Hell, that would shock a lot of fans even I bet! :p I dunno, I think it would make a lot of sense and add artistic flair :whistle:

It would be a really cool change that I'd totally approve of...except as someone mentioned before, why would Voldemort be up there? :lol:

Really?

I think it would be an incredibly interesting and ironic place for it to occur. Who would expect Snape to be killed in the same location he killed Dumbledore?! Hell, that would shock a lot of fans even I bet! I dunno, I think it would make a lot of sense and add artistic flair

It would be a really cool change that I'd totally approve of...except as someone mentioned before, why would Voldemort be up there?

Dont get me wrong, I would love it. I just didn't think his description made it sound like that.

Oh and Voldemort being up there. Voldemort loves power. Maybe he feels powerful looking down at the battle below him? Or he could be looking for Harry.

Wow! That's a lot of info dream_silently posted!
Actually, I kind of hope most of that (if not all :D) is true. Definitely sounds pretty epic! It'll be interesting to find out if he's really legit or not. Hope he comes back anyway. That was all rather fun to read.
I think if what he said about us getting to see more of LV searching for the Hallows, then I think the flashbacks of DD's death/funeral/white tomb etc. would be better placed later in the film along with LV finding his tomb and taking the wand or something. But didn't he also say that Harry has nightmares with all those flashbacks too? Maybe they'll be in a few different places then? *shrugs* don't know.

I think I'm still feeling that the movie should open with 'The Dark Lord Ascending'. And if that dream guy is for real, then it almost sounds like they might end Part 1 with Dobby's death. People won't feel as sad if Part 2 opens with Dobby dying. I think (if he's for real) that keeping Dobby's death in the first part would work better. But didnt' Toby Jones (or whoever plays Dobby) say he was going to be in both parts?

Oh and Voldemort being up there. Voldemort loves power. Maybe he feels powerful looking down at the battle below him? Or he could be looking for Harry.

What I mean is, he'd have to penetrate the castle cause remember you can't apparate in or out of Hogwarts. Then again, he (and apparently all the rest of the Death Eaters :relax:) can fly so maybe he'll just fly up there :lol: Oh, and guys...I wouldn't be surprised if they utilize this "smoke flying" ability of the rest of them somehow in the battle...perhaps adding aerial attacks and wizards on brooms intercepting 'em...

:whistle:

Besides, how else is everyone going to get in and out of the Hogwarts grounds? I've mentioned this before. Far as I can tell really the only way in to the castle takes you across the bridge. Now we can't have all the troops trying to cross the bridge. I'm curious how this'll work.

Oh, and I really hope they put the stupid bridge that Cuaron added to good use and burn and/or blow up the damn thing during the battle :drool:

This could provide for a great cinematic scene as everyone is rushing back from the grounds into the castle before the final showdown!

Oh, and I really hope they put the stupid bridge that Cuaron added to good use and burn and/or blow up the damn thing during the battle

This could provide for a great cinematic scene as everyone is rushing back into the castle before the final showdown!

I could imagine a few of the DA behind chased across the bridge. When all of a sudden one of the spells breaks the bridge. And it could be kind of like the run in the DoM in OotP. When the aisles start crashing over and they're running for the door.
The bridge starts to collapse and the group or two of them are running for the edge. They make it, but the DE's die? Who knows, but I think that could be quite suspenseful.

I could imagine a few of the DA behind chased across the bridge. When all of a sudden one of the spells breaks the bridge. And it could be kind of like the run in the DoM in OotP. When the aisles start crashing over and they're running for the door.
The bridge starts to collapse and the group or two of them are running for the edge. They make it, but the DE's die? Who knows, but I think that could be quite suspenseful.

Yes, I think it would be a great way to wipe out a large portion of Voldemort's army. I envision it like in a couple war movies I've seen where the good guys blow the bridge as the enemy is crossing... :elaugh: Just have to make sure it doesn't happen too early, cause after it is destroyed it'll be pretty difficult for anyone else to get inside ;) I figure since the bridge wasn't in the book, lets get rid of it in an exciting way :p :whistle:

Dream Silenty (if that was the name?) did mention in one of the posts that the bridge was ruined. The one where he explained the atmosphere of the final confrontation between Harry and Voldemort.

Dream Silenty (if that was the name?) did mention in one of the posts that the bridge was ruined. The one where he explained the atmosphere of the final confrontation between Harry and Voldemort.

He did? :wow: Hmm, didn't catch that...

*goes back and reads more carefully*

If Dream is legit (and I believe he is) DH is going to be an epic cinematic experience. The added material seems chilling and appropriate.

I just re-read the paragraph. He mentions the destroyed towers and bridges.
I guess when I read bridges I immediately thought of that bridge. Though it doesn't clarify it's that particular bridge.

I don't think that i like the idea of a true flashback where they show footage from HBP. I like the idea of it opening with the Minister and then maybe move into some death eater violence and then to Malfoy Manor. Though either way sounds good. I can see the good with both ways.

What I mean is, he'd have to penetrate the castle cause remember you can't apparate in or out of Hogwarts. Then again, he (and apparently all the rest of the Death Eaters :relax:) can fly so maybe he'll just fly up there :lol: Oh, and guys...I wouldn't be surprised if they utilize this "smoke flying" ability of the rest of them somehow in the battle...perhaps adding aerial attacks and wizards on brooms intercepting 'em...

I think the dreams guy mentions the death eaters trying to break into the burrow by flying and hitting the barrier like they did in HBP. Maybe they will do something similar in DH during the battle. They could also have Snape drop the barrier when he leaves the school, so that they could fly during the battle.

I recently read your post that included the several suggestions for the beginning of the film, and I actually would enjoy having Scrimgeour's speech as the first scene. Perhaps they could show Scrimgeour appearing before the photographers from the Daily Prophet as well as his fellow Ministry officials and begin his speech. His speech directly mentions Dumbledore's death and the public's want for Snape's capture as something of a narration above flashbacks of Dumbledore's death. Towards the speech's conclusion, have the camera pan over to a wanted poster of Snape nailed to a wall of the Atrium, and then have that transition to an image of Snape's mugshot in a copy of the Daily Prophet, similarly to the montages in Order of the Phoenix. They then show that Snape is holding this copy of the Daily Prophet as he approaches Malfoy Manor. "The Dark Lord Ascending" thus begins.


I don't think I agree with this idea for a couple of reasons. 1) they had Snape reading the paper in HBP, and all the newspaper transitions were quite worn out in that film. 2) The outside world never really knew what happened on the Tower and Voldemort gained a lot of power very quickly. He and the DE are leaning on the papers to slander Dumbledore's name. Harry is about to be painted as an "undesirable" and accuse Harry of killing Dumbledore while announcing that Snape as Headmaster.

If there are any newspaper transitions, I expect them only to show Snape accepting the Headmaster position, then segueing to him about to give a speech at the school.

What is the symbolism of the shack? :whistle:

It's been suggested that it might be moved to the Astronomy Tower, which I think would be great! :tu: Doesn't that provide more symbolism or whatever? I mean wouldn't it be great parallel and irony for Snape to be murdered in the same place that he "murdered" Dumbledore? :cool:

The symbolism of the shack applies more to Snape from the books than the movies. The shack is the place where Potter Sr. rescued Snape from Lupin in his youth. Remember? Supposedly the thing the grudge that Snape couldn't bare was being saved by James Potter- then he dies in that same place while James' son is standing nearby to receive his memories.

The Astronomy tower would be better for the movies, since most of Snape' character background has been ignored thus far anyway.:grumble: So I'm not surprised it would be at the Tower. This is a familiar place to the movie audiences and a few important scenes have taken place up there, not to mention -as you said - Dumbledore's death. I had wondered if they would move it somewhere to the castle because this would place Harry much closer to Dumbledore's office. This way Harry can simple turn - and cut to– Dumbledore's office for the viewing.

On a side note, I am sad that it seems Snape's literal flight will not be a climatic moment i the film. (It can't be now that all the DE and Order can fly in and out of places.) I am curious as to how Snape will escape Minerva and the other House Leaders after their confrontation. If that will be climatic at all :whistle:?

I just re-read the paragraph. He mentions the destroyed towers and bridges.
I guess when I read bridges I immediately thought of that bridge. Though it doesn't clarify it's that particular bridge.

Yeah, I read it myself. It doesn't specifically say. :shrug: Some other ideas that have been mentioned in conjunction with the battle are blowing up the clock tower and possibly adding Inferi (despite not being included in the book) I'm not sure how well Inferi would work though for the Battle of Hogwarts. Voldemort does have a large army of them at his disposal but I think there is most likely a reason that Jo left them out, namely that they CANT be killed ;) So unless you chop them up into tiny little pieces with swords or spells, slicing off their limbs and all...

Plus, it might simply be kinda cheesy to add "zombies" to the fighting :whistle:



I think the dreams guy mentions the death eaters trying to break into the burrow by flying and hitting the barrier like they did in HBP. Maybe they will do something similar in DH during the battle. They could also have Snape drop the barrier when he leaves the school, so that they could fly during the battle.

Yeah, that could work. I would say I envision Death Eaters raining down spells on those casting echantments from the top of the towers, except the current version of the castle doesn't really have any towers with open roofs and battlements like this from which they can work.

It would be silly be switch back now, but I think the castle they used in the first couple films would be much better suited for the Battle-

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Alnwick_Castle_-_Northumberland_-_140804.jpg/800px-Alnwick_Castle_-_Northumberland_-_140804.jpg

It actually had grassy grounds all around, entrances, and turrets... :whistle: :sigh:

Yeah, I read it myself. It doesn't specifically say. :shrug: Some other ideas that have been mentioned in conjunction with the battle are blowing up the clock tower and possibly adding Inferi (despite not being included in the book) I'm not sure how well Inferi would work though for the Battle of Hogwarts. Voldemort does have a large army of them at his disposal but I think there is most likely a reason that Jo left them out, namely that they CANT be killed ;) So unless you chop them up into tiny little pieces with swords or spells, slicing off their limbs and all...

Plus, it might simply be kinda cheesy to add "zombies" to the fighting :whistle:



Yeah, that could work. I would say I envision Death Eaters raining down spells on those casting echantments from the top of the towers, except the current version of the castle doesn't really have any towers with open roofs and battlements like this from which they can work.

It would be silly be switch back now, but I think the castle they used in the first couple films would be much better suited for the Battle-

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/Alnwick_Castle_-_Northumberland_-_140804.jpg/800px-Alnwick_Castle_-_Northumberland_-_140804.jpg

It actually had grassy grounds all around, entrances, and turrets... :whistle: :sigh:

If I'm not mistaken, is that not Alnwick Castle, in Northumberland? I went there :)

It was a nice place, but they only used it for a one or two scenes, particularly involving Quidditch.

This is how I'd like the movie to start out:
-The Dark Lord Ascending
-Scrimgeour's Speech (having this follow Voldemort's scene will make his speech much more sad, because we know what Voldemort is planning and it will set the mood better.
-Harry at privet drive with flashbacks from HBP added in (snape killing dumbledore, chasing snape, the RAB note)

I don't know, HBP started with a sort of flashback, so i wouldn't want DH to be repetitive and do the same thing. I think it'd be more dramatic to start with voldemort secretly planning his control of the wizarding world, then switching to the minister of magic delivering a speech to the public, unaware that his death is close...

If I'm not mistaken, is that not Alnwick Castle, in Northumberland? I went there :)

It was a nice place, but they only used it for a one or two scenes, particularly involving Quidditch.

It is and it was largely used for exterior shots in the first 2 films.

And not only would this layout work better logistically speaking, but I believe it also matches the castle from the books much more closely.

This is how I'd like the movie to start out:
-The Dark Lord Ascending
-Scrimgeour's Speech (having this follow Voldemort's scene will make his speech much more sad, because we know what Voldemort is planning and it will set the mood better.
-Harry at privet drive with flashbacks from HBP added in (snape killing dumbledore, chasing snape, the RAB note)

I think the only reason i would like Srimgeour to go first is because he could mention something like 'in other news the muggle studies professor at Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, Charity Burbage, has gone missing' and then go to malfoy manor and then when they show her upside down suspended from the ceiling and she is killed while Snape stands there and does nothing it will sort of make that scarier and Snape more the betrayer though i realize that he could not have saved her.

Here's my order:

- Wb sign like always
- Fade into Scrimgeours speech
- Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
- Fade into a blank streetside, see a man apparate
- Follow snape into the meeting with Voldemort
- Have Voldemort mention he has taken over hogwarts
- Have really quick flashes of hogwarts being taken over
- Charity Burbage's death
- Then have Harry shaking in bed having nightmares of Dumbledore's death.

Dont get me wrong, I would love it. I just didn't think his description made it sound like that.

Oh and Voldemort being up there. Voldemort loves power. Maybe he feels powerful looking down at the battle below him? Or he could be looking for Harry.

I can already imagine how the scene might play out. Harry closes his eyes and tries to get into Voldemort's mind like in the book. Then he sees that Voldemort is flying toward the astronomy tower (assuming that the protections are all gone at this point / DEs may manage to take over that part of the castle).

The trio run up the tower and hide below the floorboards. They see Snape waiting for Voldemort right there to report the situation, possibly commenting that there is no need for LV to come all the way here since he (Snape) can search&capture Potter and bring him to Voldemort instead. The rest may play out like in the book (maybe with Snape's blood dripping on the trio as Nagini bites him:p).

Voldemort then makes an announcement on the top of the tower, orders his troops to withdraw, then flies off.

The reason for Voldemort being there could be that he wants to see Snape so, instead of waiting in the shack, he decides to pick the tallest tower and summons Snape (who is fighting along with other DEs) there.

I think the scene could really work. The only thing I don't like about the change is that I want to see the Willow again.

I don't reckon there will be a Potterwatch. It doesn't add anything to the story and Harry and Hermione will learn everything that's happened from Ron.

:)If there are any newspaper transitions, I expect them only to show Snape accepting the Headmaster position, then segueing to him about to give a speech at the school.

That would acctualy be really cool, with everyone sitting in the Great Hall, in darkness while Snape gives a speech. But with Scrimgeours speech in the begining it would be to many speeches i think :p

I don't think Snape is killed at the Astronomy tower. It just doesn't make any sense to me how Voldemort would me in tower. I know he can fly and stuff, but in the book he stayed away from the battle and i think it would be wierd if he was up there and nobody saw him :err:

I hope they start with Scrimgeours speech, with clips of the death eaters while he talks, and then we go to the Malfay manor. Then Harry wake up with a nightmare of Dumbledore's death (and funeral, if they choose to make that). The Death Eaters taking over the ministry and Hogwarts part should be right before/during (?) the wedding, imo

Daniel Radcliffe mentioned (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HSuYAzTJQg&feature=player_embedded) the Harry/Ginny kiss in DH in this interview. No real details, but it is mentioned. I wonder if they will kiss at the beginning at the burrow and then again at the end like dreamsilently said? Who knows?

Daniel Radcliffe mentioned the Harry/Ginny kiss in DH in this interview. No real details, but it is mentioned. I wonder if they will kiss at the beginning at the burrow and then again at the end like dreamsilently said? Who knows?

I hope near the end they have a Lavendar/Ron kiss.

I have a feeling once the battle's over. They will have one of them cliche 'we can be together now' kisses. Though I dont mind, that kind of kiss is better than the RoR one.

I sort of could imagine them doing that as well. That is one part of the book, in the aftermath of the battle, where they didn't have quite enough resolution for me. If we had heard a little bit of what Harry told Ron and Hermione when they were alone that would have helped, but it felt like there wasn't enough resolution.

I agree even a cheesy at the end of the film kiss would be better then the RoR, but i have gotten more used to that kiss.