What happened to Goyle?

What happened to Goyle because he did live, so what happened to him would do you think:relax:

maybe he didn't get married but sulked for the rest of his life in a house full of cats!!

maybe he didn't get married but sulked for the rest of his life in a house full of cats!!

I think that he went to Azkaban, at least for a while and then after going out became the new janitor in Hogwarts. Or in Smeltings. lol

I think that he went to Azkaban, at least for a while and then after going out became the new janitor in Hogwarts. Or in Smeltings. lol
Erm, why would he go to Smeltings? Isn't that a Muggle school? :hmm: I don't think he'd go to jail, he didn't actually committ murder.

The Smeltings' part was a joke.... ^^U

About jail, didn't he used the unforgivables?

About jail, didn't he used the unforgivables?

Wasn't that Crabbe? I'm a little fuzzy; need to reread DH.

They both used the Crucio curse on students in their 7th . year, so that could get him some time in jail if the post Voldemort Gov. goes back and charges all who used it at school .But if you ask me they won't charge any of the kids at the school because it was on a teachers orders that they used the crucio curse . My guess is that he went to work at Malfoy inc. as a warehouse guard or troll trainer .
I guess we will have to wait for JKR to tell us in her Scotish book.

They both used the Crucio curse on students in their 7th . year, so that could get him some time in jail if the post Voldemort Gov. goes back and charges all who used it at school .But if you ask me they won't charge any of the kids at the school because it was on a teachers orders that they used the crucio curse . My guess is that he went to work at Malfoy inc. as a warehouse guard or troll trainer .
I guess we will have to wait for JKR to tell us in her Scotish book.

Yeah, but he had the choice not to use the Curses, as Neville refused to. And even in real life, the "just following orders" defense is often debunked. For Goyle, because he may have been underage at the time (we don't know exactly when he was born), he may have been required to serve a reduced sentence. Same with the Slytherins that fought for Voldemort. Anyway, JKR will reveal all (I hope) in due course, and this post, as it is, is rife with open-ended speculation.

They were legally of age (I think) when they cast the Unforgivables, so that could likely lead to a spell in prison. That's the law, even if there are or are not mitigating circumstances.

Afterward, I think he'd just try to put his life back together, like the other DEs and children of DEs. They lost a war and are going to have to make some sacrifices and do some thinking about how they got to the unfortunate position they're in.

We can't know how close he was to Crabbe, so I don't know how long it would take for him to heal from the loss of that friend. It may take a while.

As to marriage, since he may probably be a pureblood, his family may want him to continue the line, so the pressure to get hitched would be great.

As to marriage, since he may probably be a pureblood, his family may want him to continue the line, so the pressure to get hitched would be great.

Personally, I don't picture him like a married man. He's not very inteligent, so unless his family is rich, I wonder what would he live of, seeing as he isn't very smart.

I can just see him working in a little shop in Diagon Alley or something. I can't really see him making much of his life. But who knows, he might of changed after DH.

While the Goyle family is pure-blood, I don't have a high opinion of the family intelligence-wise. They may have been proud at one point, but by the time we see the Goyles in the Harry Potter series, they are merely lackeys to LV and the Malfoys.

Once LV is dead, I don't see the Goyles having much direction. They still may be close with the Malfoys, but who knows. As for Gregory, I don't see him rising to any level of importance. I feel he is probably still at least in contact with Draco if not still friends, but after all they have been through, I don't think they hang out much. I like what ally_xx said about working in Diagon Alley. I would hope Gregory has enough sense to not work in Nocturn Alley but based on his other choices I'm not sure.

-JR

I can see him becoming the janitor at Hogwarts, or a street sweeper in Diagon Alley. Possibly married to Millicent Bulstrode or some ugly pureblood chick with a couple of fat ugly kids.

I think he spent a lot of time in jail. Isn't an unforgivable curse a life sentence? I vaguely remember "Moody" saying that in GoF.

I like the idea of him becoming the janitor at Hogwarts after Filch retires. Maybe even after serving some time in Azkaban, as others have said.

i would assume he got married ... with some difficulty :lol:.

Bodyguard for the Malfoy family.

Yeah, but he had the choice not to use the Curses, as Neville refused to. And even in real life, the "just following orders" defense is often debunked. For Goyle, because he may have been underage at the time (we don't know exactly when he was born), he may have been required to serve a reduced sentence. Same with the Slytherins that fought for Voldemort.

I don't think anything would happen to the kids. Just because Neville didn't do it, doesn't mean the others (from all houses) were too scared to disobey. Of course the spells would be weak if you didn't really mean them.
In DH I get the impression Crabbe was the one going to far. I think Goyle was similar to Malfoy and maybe unlike Crabbe still a bit of a follower.

I would also point out Harry used the Imperius curse in Gringotts against an innocent Goblin. Granted it was for the greater good and he had no choice, but it was an unforgivable curse. I think the same allowances granted to him, would be granted to all the children of the school and to all who needed to use certain magic for defense etc. in the time of war.

I hope Goyle after losing the influence of Crabbe and under the influence of a reformed? Draco would start to become a better person. The near death experience might shock some soul into him like it did for Dudley. Hopefully he married and stemmed the tide of pure blood propaganda within his family.

Yeah, but he had the choice not to use the Curses, as Neville refused to. And even in real life, the "just following orders" defense is often debunked. For Goyle, because he may have been underage at the time (we don't know exactly when he was born), he may have been required to serve a reduced sentence. Same with the Slytherins that fought for Voldemort. Anyway, JKR will reveal all (I hope) in due course, and this post, as it is, is rife with open-ended speculation.

He must have been of age, because he was in seventh year at the time and all seventh years would have to have been at least seventeen.

I see the "following orders" issue as being a valid defence- if the new Ministry were to prosecute Goyle (and others related to Death Eaters) solely for obeying the Carrows, they would have to be seen to prosecute all the others who hadn't had the courage Neville had in standing up to them and I think that would amount to way too many teenagers for the Ministry to be prosecuting when there were true Death Eaters to pursue.

Possibly he didn't serve a sentence as it was under orders that he carried out the Cruciatus. Unless he could be proven to have the Dark Mark. I don't see him worming out of trouble on that score. Due to his father's status as Death Eater, I'd say he was under more scrutiny from the post-Voldemort government than other students who'd used the Cruciatus Curse in class.


I hope Goyle after losing the influence of Crabbe and under the influence of a reformed? Draco would start to become a better person. The near death experience might shock some soul into him like it did for Dudley. Hopefully he married and stemmed the tide of pure blood propaganda within his family.

I really don't see Gregory Goyle marrying anyone other than a Pureblood, if he married at all. We don't know a lot about him, except that his family were among those who held prejudices about blood. He seems more of a follower than a leader and I don't see him breaking from tradition to marry a half-blood or Muggleborn, and he wouldn't know how to interact with a Muggle.

Career-wise, I'm not sure. I can imagine him working in one of the Knockturn Alley shops, unless his experience losing a friend to Dark Magic put him off.

Goyle definitely wouldn't go on to do great things, in my opinion. I think, like others have said, he would probably go on to get married to whatever pure-blood witch he could, with difficulty, and have less-than-intelligent children. Career-wise, I don't see him doing anything noteworthy at all. Maybe he got lucky and secured a maintenance job at the Ministry. :P

Yeah, but he had the choice not to use the Curses, as Neville refused to. And even in real life, the "just following orders" defense is often debunked. For Goyle, because he may have been underage at the time (we don't know exactly when he was born), he may have been required to serve a reduced sentence. Same with the Slytherins that fought for Voldemort. Anyway, JKR will reveal all (I hope) in due course, and this post, as it is, is rife with open-ended speculation.

But didn't Neville face consequences for not using the Curse?

I like to think Goyle ended up with Ludo Bagman. We still don't know what happened to him, except I think the goblins caught up to Ludo. So Goyle, probably ended up with the goblins.

I think he hooked up with Dolores Umbridge and the two of them lived together happily ever after. Of course, they had toad-faced kids.

I think he hooked up with Dolores Umbridge and the two of them lived together happily ever after. Of course, they had toad-faced kids.

I love this! :tu:

Well we know that Pansy Parkinson didn't marry Draco so maybe Goyle got her on the rebound ?

Maybe he gained a concience, and felt remorse for using the Unforgivable Curses and supporting the Purebloods & the Dark Arts and like, got a life?





lol.

Perhaps he became a boxer too and got his butt kicked by Dudley for trying to hurt his cousin not likely to have happened but i would like it.

Well we know that Pansy Parkinson didn't marry Draco so maybe Goyle got her on the rebound ?

This idea never occurred to me before but it seems very plausible. JKR hasn't given us any post-Hallows information on either of them.

Err... he finally became Minister of Magic? :cool: There seems to be quite a negative selection for this job....

Err... he finally became Minister of Magic? :cool: There seems to be quite a negative selection for this job....

In the muggle world this would be plausible, but wizards seem to consider an iota of intelligence as a necessity for a Minister of Magic.

They both used the Crucio curse on students in their 7th . year, so that could get him some time in jail if the post Voldemort Gov. goes back and charges all who used it at school .But if you ask me they won't charge any of the kids at the school because it was on a teachers orders that they used the crucio curse . My guess is that he went to work at Malfoy inc. as a warehouse guard or troll trainer .
I guess we will have to wait for JKR to tell us in her Scotish book.

Of topic but why has JK called the encyclopedia a "Scottish book"?

Of topic but why has JK called the encyclopedia a "Scottish book"?

She gives the answer on her website:

http://www.jkrowling.com/textonly/en/faq_view.cfm?id=123

Section: F.A.Q.
Why 'The Scottish Book'?

After my recent appearance on Leaky's podcast, several people have asked me why I called the as-yet-unpublished Encyclopaedia of Potterworld 'the Scottish Book'. Answer: it was a joke, though evidently not a very good one...

There is a superstition that it is unlucky to speak the name 'Macbeth' in the theatre, so actors always refer to it as 'the Scottish Play'. Given the contentiousness that has sprung up around the Encyclopaedia lately, I simply thought we might start showing it similar respect!

And you are right. This is off topic. :whistle:

The Smeltings' part was a joke.... ^^U

About jail, didn't he used the unforgivables?

Harry used the unforgivables too... But as long he's famous, everybody forgives him :cool:

I really can't say for sure what could have happened to Goyle after the end.

I doubt he ended up in Azkaban if Draco didn't, I mean, well, for all we know Draco didn't end up there, and he'd done far worse than Goyle up to that point.
I'd say Goyle probably graduated Hogwarts, got a job somewhere in Knockturn alley, and got married to someone like Pansy. He probably kept in touch with Draco during that time, but I'm sure they were both changed somewhat by what happened to Crabbe.

Actually, not really. There is the whole attempted assassination of Dumbledore but Draco could claim duress. And it's never mentioned that Draco enjoyed or used the Cruciatus like Crabbe and Goyle.

Plus, it wasn't Goyle's mum who helped save Harry Potter's life.

Actually, not really. There is the whole attempted assassination of Dumbledore but Draco could claim duress. And it's never mentioned that Draco enjoyed or used the Cruciatus like Crabbe and Goyle.

Plus, it wasn't Goyle's mum who helped save Harry Potter's life.

True, but Draco was responsible for not only trying to kill Dumbledore, but cursing a fellow student (almost killing her, if she'd grabbed the necklace) as well as accidentally poisoning Ron with Slughorns drink. I'd say that would constitute a stay in azkaban.

As for Goyle though, the most we hear that he did was use a few unforgivable's on some students. While I agree those are terrible things to do, I don't see him going to Azkaban just because of that, he might have of course, but as has been said before, Harry's used unforgivables, quite a few times, but since they were only used on DE's it seems most people looked past that.

As for Goyle though, the most we hear that he did was use a few unforgivable's on some students. While I agree those are terrible things to do, I don't see him going to Azkaban just because of that, he might have of course, but as has been said before, Harry's used unforgivables, quite a few times, but since they were only used on DE's it seems most people looked past that.

Any Unforgivable is punishable by law with a life sentence in Azkaban, according to Fake Moody (not always applied in practice, but it's the law). However, I'd imagine Goyle, as well as the other students who participated would claim they were coerced with threats from the Carrows. Even if some of them didn't need too much persuasion. :grumble: This might have enabled him to avoid a prison sentence unless he was proven to have fought with the DEs in the final battle.

I think that after the battle he kept his head low. probably got a job in Knockturn Alley somewhere.

I think that he went to azkaban for a couple of years was then released and lived a boring life and held onto his pureblood ideals.

By the sound of what Crabbe and Goyle were doing at Hogwarts, and the fact that Crabbe is really the only one who was cursing the Trio when they were confronted shows (to me) that Goyle was the most reserved one out of the three. With Draco gone, someone had to take reins as the new obsessed-with-blood-status wizard. Goyle is a follower-- probably the biggest follower of the huge book series, I think he'd follow the Malfoys in whatever they do. And I think the Malfoys mellowed out more, still obsessed with pureblood status, but not as cruel.

I think he hooked up with Dolores Umbridge and the two of them lived together happily ever after. Of course, they had toad-faced kids.

That's a good one. An Umbridge/Goyle shipper :yuhup:

I think he probably just went home to Mum, since his father probably did go to Azkaban, and that they just lived out their lives, on whatever money the family had left, pretty much oblivious of what else went on around them. We know Goyle was far from the sharpest tool in the shed, so, I hardly see him being successful at anything as difficult as being a janitor.

I think he might have went to Azkaban for a few years still thinking he's super tough. His third day in Azkaban he dropped the soap.:lol: (Does it work like that there?) After he's done with Azkaban he prob went to see Malfoy with his pureblood idealisms and Malfoy tells him just drop it. Thus leading to Goyle finally growing up. :)

I know;
He married Millicent Bullstrode and they had a son named Vincent Draco Goyle, after his two Hogwarts friends.
Young Vincent is as large as both his parents and quite a bully as well.
On his first day, he bullies young Scorpius on the train, thus leading Scorp to find another carriage, where he meets Albus and Rose which makes him tell the sorting hat not to put him in Slytherin, so he ends up with his new friends in Gryffindor.
This leaves young Goyle to blame for the first Malfoy in Gryffindor. Daddy Goyle is not pleased that his son lost the chance to be friends with Scorpius.
Oh, and I think Gregory Goyle would make a great conductor on the Knight Bus!

Goyle would have ended up shoveling dragon dung for Hagrid for all I care. But since we're in the topic already, maybe he changed his pureblood ways with Malfoy *probably* stopping bullying him around?

You know, I hope Goyle survived. It's be a pity he didn't.

I think he was a street cleaner, got drunk, fell into a broken vanishing cabinet and died without any heirs. Or, he just bacame a street cleaner.

I think that the ministry would have been too concentrated on finding and arresting death eaters, including Goyle's father, too be concerned about unforgivable curses. After all, Harry used an unforgivable curse twice and is never arrested. Likely, Goyle, like Malfoy, simply concentrated on rebuilding a relationship with the anti-death eater side of society after the battle of Hogwarts.

I don't think he'd have gone to Azkaban. I don't think any students would have been prosecuted for using Unforgivables under the Carrows.
I guess Goyle married some pureblood witch and worked in some shop somewhere. He probably kept in contact with Draco as well.

I know;
He married Millicent Bullstrode and they had a son named Vincent Draco Goyle, after his two Hogwarts friends.
Young Vincent is as large as both his parents and quite a bully as well.
On his first day, he bullies young Scorpius on the train, thus leading Scorp to find another carriage, where he meets Albus and Rose which makes him tell the sorting hat not to put him in Slytherin, so he ends up with his new friends in Gryffindor.
This leaves young Goyle to blame for the first Malfoy in Gryffindor. Daddy Goyle is not pleased that his son lost the chance to be friends with Scorpius.
Oh, and I think Gregory Goyle would make a great conductor on the Knight Bus!

:lol: I like that take on it.

I don't think he'd have gone to Azkaban. I don't think any students would have been prosecuted for using Unforgivables under the Carrows.
I guess Goyle married some pureblood witch and worked in some shop somewhere. He probably kept in contact with Draco as well.

Students with Dark Marks, though? Possibly Crabbe and Goyle were given the Dark Mark when they came of age, especially after the Ministry takeover when there was no legal enforcement against DEs whatsoever.

Students with Dark Marks, though? Possibly Crabbe and Goyle were given the Dark Mark when they came of age, especially after the Ministry takeover when there was no legal enforcement against DEs whatsoever.

I'm not sure students were given Dark Marks to be honest. We don't even know if Draco had the Dark Mark. I think you needed to earn the Mark. I don't think it was just something that was done to everyone who supported Voldemort.