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Hes June 16th, 2010, 9:51 pm Version 3 (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=124658)
Soon we will have the official trailer but until then, let's look at the scenes of the MTV preview.
Which preview scene interests you the most? Why?
Do you like the colouring of the scenes? What about the costumes?
Jonny7003 June 18th, 2010, 11:41 am Another version already! :D
I think the colouring of the MTV sneak peek thing is still not the final product. It looked a little too orange.
Anyway, to be honest I don't really mind where they split these films - Malfoy Manor or the death of Dobby (prefer the latter though).
ArryGrotter June 18th, 2010, 11:57 am I chose almost all of them :lol: :D
And I agree that the cinematography isn't complete. I mean, look at the HBP teaser, when compared to the final film :)
decarus June 18th, 2010, 12:40 pm Yes the blond women was just an interviewer, but they told her they were filming the scenes at Malfoy Manor and Daniel had to hide his face to hide his makeup most likely because he had been stung.
MasterOfDeath June 18th, 2010, 12:42 pm I chose almost all of them :lol: :D
And I agree that the cinematography isn't complete. I mean, look at the HBP teaser, when compared to the final film :)
I voted for most of them as well! :lol:
Wow, another thread already? We're going through them fast now. :whistle: What is it, one a month? I bet we'll be at version 7 when the movie comes out. :D
decarus June 18th, 2010, 12:46 pm I voted Ron and Harry fighting, Ron destroying the horcrux, and the trio on the beach. I did really like the scene of Voldemort in the forest, but i didn't vote for it because i am not ready to see bits of the forest again scene.
MasterOfDeath June 18th, 2010, 12:49 pm Hey Aaron, what is the 'other' scene? I noticed you clicked 'other'. Was it the wide shot of the trio traveling across the mountains?
ArryGrotter June 18th, 2010, 12:52 pm Hey Aaron, what is the 'other' scene? I noticed you clicked 'other'. Was it the wide shot of the trio traveling across the mountains?
It was everything else not listed :lol: That included :)
decarus, I too wish that the part 2 stuff wasn't given to us on a plate this early, but I suppose a two-part film needs to promote both parts before promoting them separately :shrug:
MasterOfDeath June 18th, 2010, 12:53 pm It was everything else not listed :lol: That included :)
decarus, I too wish that the part 2 stuff wasn't given to us on a plate this early, but I suppose a two-part film needs to promote both parts before promoting them separately :shrug:
Yeah, I wish they wouldn't show so much stuff from part 2. It's kinda annoying me.
dweaselqueen June 18th, 2010, 1:35 pm My guess is they showed so much stuff from part 2 to keep us from guessing where the split will be. It's one of the few things they can truly surprise fans with if they don't reveal it in subsequent trailers. The producers are being very tight-lipped about it so I don't think we'll know about the split for several more months.
decarus June 18th, 2010, 1:39 pm Well at least we will know once they have the test screenings.
AccioHP June 18th, 2010, 1:40 pm NEw thread! :) im lookin foward to all th scenes lol
Fury June 18th, 2010, 2:43 pm Yay, shiny new thread. I voted for most of the options in the poll. The teaser was great, but can't wait for the one that will come in a couple weeks. 2 minutes and 20 seconds will definitely be a lot of footage for us to discuss! :clap:
ThaiHPFan June 18th, 2010, 4:57 pm So the new trailer will be 2.20 minutes long??? Wow.. so even if they reuse all the MTV footages, we would still surely get a lot of new stuff to discuss. :D
KJRiddle June 18th, 2010, 5:14 pm So the new trailer will be 2.20 minutes long??? Wow.. so even if they reuse all the MTV footages, we would still surely get a lot of new stuff to discuss. :D
It's great to finally have some sort of assurance that there will be new footage realesed. But jugding by the running time, this isn't just a teaser trailer, but pretty serious stuff.
I think they'll use Xeno/Silver Doe as the 'leading parts', the first one because of the high plot-explanation-level, and the second because it's really Harry Potter-ish. Mixed with some 'dark times' stuff this will probably blow us off our feet.
EDIT:
Looking at this (http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_eua875F9Wb0/S7FEtHrg0HI/AAAAAAAAAZc/o8hl4w9hNRM/s1600/MM1.jpg), I noticed the somewhat 'weird' position of the furniture. There's just that single chair and this chandelier hanging right next to it. Obviously this is just some behind the scene stuff, but I think that this during the Hermione torture part, why? Well:
First there's no huge table facing the fireplace, so this isn't the Dark Lord Ascending.
It would make total sense for that one chair to be standing there alone, if a 'central' person is seated on it. That would Hermione, she's kinda the point of interest when she's torture. Bellatrix would be standing next to her, with her knife pushed against Hermione's throat, and that's when the chandelier crashes down onto her.
That would also explain why the fireplace is blackened (all this takes place behind the 'duel', so there's probably a spell that hit the fireplace).
iamwood June 18th, 2010, 5:36 pm Version four! I'm with you lot on expecting at least seven versions :lol:
Just ten days from now...this thread is going to explode! I'm pretty excited myself. Yep. Indeed.
So...Totally didn't know the poll was a multiple vote poll or I would have picked way more than just one selection.
But my real question of the day is...Is this expected 140 seconds of heaven supposed to reveal pieces of strictly part one or do we expect them to go even further in the dual marketing to continue enticing and concealing the split point?
weasley9 June 18th, 2010, 5:41 pm But my real question of the day is...Is this expected 140 seconds of heaven supposed to reveal pieces of strictly part one or do we expect them to go even further in the dual marketing to continue enticing and concealing the split point?
I thik the rumour is that they're going to show both parts.
I'm against the idea; I think they need to just start promoting Part I since Part II is still over a year away. :grumble:
MoodysMagicEye June 18th, 2010, 5:51 pm Daniel had to hide his face to hide his makeup most likely because he had been stung. That makes sense, but as we seen in the movie version of the capture scene there will be a great chase prior to them being caught, so in that scenario the stinging charm would seem a bit surplus-to-requirements in my view as the snatchers will have presumably got a reasonably good look at Harry in ther pursuit.
KJRiddle June 18th, 2010, 6:04 pm That makes sense, but as we seen in the movie version of the capture scene there will be a great chase prior to them being caught, so in that scenario the stinging charm would seem a bit surplus-to-requirements in my view as the snatchers will have presumably got a reasonably good look at Harry in ther pursuit.
No they haven't, it's in the middle of the night. But I'd be quite a moment when you first see Harry and Hermione flee together, chased, and suddenly Hermione cursing him. 'WTH R U DOIN B*TCH?'
MoodysMagicEye June 18th, 2010, 6:13 pm No they haven't, it's in the middle of the night. But I'd be quite a moment when you first see Harry and Hermione flee together, chased, and suddenly Hermione cursing him. 'WTH R U DOIN B*TCH?' Oh right, I had forgotten it was at night, it doesn't help when they put these unedited scenes in the trailers and clips:grumble:.
KJRiddle June 18th, 2010, 6:25 pm Oh right, I had forgotten it was at night, it doesn't help when they put these unedited scenes in the trailers and clips:grumble:.
Don't hate them. But I do hope the golden color schemes from the Part II scenes are finished product. I love them so much.
SiriusBlack101 June 18th, 2010, 6:43 pm The MTV teaser was excellent in my opinion, and the scenes featured that I'm really looking forward to are:
- Voldemort in the Forbidden Forest: "The boy who lived, come to die" ... if that line didn't give you chills, check your heartbeat!
- The Trio on the beach: The looks on their faces says it all; this scene has the potential to be quite emotional, and works perfectly right before the split
- Ron and Harry fighting: I'm so happy to see Ron in a more serious moment for once.
- Ron destroying the locket: In the brief clip we saw, he was charging the locket with some authority and determination. I can't wait to see the "horrible" Harry and Hermione visions come out of the locket and taunt him.
On another subject, I'm re-reading DH yet again, and after the Seven Potters sequence, when everyone arrives back at the Burrow, there was a nice moment between Lupin and Kingsley. Kingsley points his wand at Lupin and asks him "the last words Albus Dumbledore spoke to the pair of us?", while Lupin replies "Harry is the best hope we have. Trust him." This is very minor, but I hope this is included in some form in DH1. It reinforces the idea that the hopes of the wizarding world ride upon Harry's shoulders, and shows that Dumbledore had faith in him.
MoodysMagicEye June 18th, 2010, 6:43 pm Don't hate them. But I do hope the golden color schemes from the Part II scenes are finished product. I love them so much.
I don't hate them, far from it, and I dare say most if not all the other scenes are complete. That bit just through my memory off a bit thats all. I love the way the massive shield charm (I think thats Flitwicks Protego Maxima he cast out of the window while he was talking to Harry) round Hogwarts is defragmenting.
MasterOfDeath June 18th, 2010, 6:47 pm On another subject, I'm re-reading DH yet again, and after the Seven Potters sequence, when everyone arrives back at the Burrow, there was a nice moment between Lupin and Kingsley. Kingsley points his wand at Lupin and asks him "the last words Albus Dumbledore spoke to the pair of us?", while Lupin replies "Harry is the best hope we have. Trust him." This is very minor, but I hope this is included in some form in DH1. It reinforces the idea that the hopes of the wizarding world ride upon Harry's shoulders, and shows that Dumbledore had faith in him.
I believe these exact lines were in the leaked script! :D
Fury June 18th, 2010, 7:04 pm I forgot where I heard it, but I think it was from one of the Harry Potter crew members. Maybe David Heyman. It might have been put in this thread already, but correct me if I am wrong. Didn't someone say that they didn't want this movie to end with a death? Because the last three have ended with someone's death?
I mean, I would love if that beach scene we saw in the MTV teaser was part of the last scene. You know how many of the movies have ended with Harry, Ron and Hermione looking off into the distance. It could end on the beach with them looking at Shell Cottage. It would definitely be a great ending for the first half.
But I just don't think it will happen. It's probably going to end off with the Snatchers finding Harry, Ron and Hermione and maybe, just maybe, the last scene will be a shot of Malfoy Manor.
We keep seeing the big chase scene through the forest in the teasers, and this seems like a big ultimate scene for a last bit. Sorta a better version of Harry chasing Bellatrix, Snape, Malfoy and the others through the Forbidden Forest at the end of HBP, except this time its the Snatchers chasing the trio.
The only reason I am saying it might be a shot of Malfoy Manor, is we keep getting distance shots into the horizon or something, and it could be something like that.
Course it could also end with Voldemort getting the Elder Wand a lot earlier than in the book and the movie ending with a wide shot of Hogwarts. But that is just something I would like to see and probably won't happen.
SiriusBlack101 June 18th, 2010, 7:44 pm I believe these exact lines were in the leaked script! :D
Really? I didn't think there was a leaked script from "The Fallen Warrior" area of the book. Or was it in a different scene?
Either way, that's good news. It seems like a lot of the leaked scripts we've seen from past films have been true, so I'd hope the same thing holds for this part.
Another small detail I thought of - we've seen the protective sphere over Hogwarts being shattered in the MTV teaser; do you think we'll see a similar "bubble" over the Burrow for the end of the Seven Potters sequence and the wedding? It might look quite cool if it dissolved similar to what we're seeing happen at Hogwarts when the Burrow's protection fails. I sort of imagined it happening like this, with a montage of sorts:
- Everyone's having a good time at the wedding
- Voldemort and the Death Eaters enter the Ministry, small battle ensues but no real resistance present
- Kingsley's patronus appears, speaks the words: "the ministry has fallen"
- Voldemort enters Scrimgeour's office ("Good evening, minister"), perhaps Scrimgeour responds ("I expected you sooner"), the two duel for a small bit, Voldemort eventually kills Scrimgeour
- Kinglsley's Patronus continues: "the minister is dead"
- Shot of Voldemort looking triumphant, ordering his Death Eaters to bring him Harry Potter
- Kingsley's patronus finishes: "they are coming"
- We hear a bang of some sort of sound and the protective sphere begins to dissolve, Death Eaters apparate and crash the wedding, Order members duel with them, panic is everywhere, the trio dissapparate away from the chaos
I'm sure the film version will be very different from that, but I hope we do see the Ministry under attack and the duel between Voldemort and Scrimgeour. Indications are good about the duel at least, which makes me quite happy.
Jonny7003 June 18th, 2010, 8:18 pm Trailer now said to be 2mins 25 seconds and is an extention of the MTV trailer.
http://www.oclumencia.com.br/2010/06/trailer-de-hp7-tera-duracao-de-2-minutos-e-meio/
AccioHP June 18th, 2010, 8:33 pm Trailer now said to be 2mins 25 seconds and is an extention of the MTV trailer.
http://www.oclumencia.com.br/2010/06/trailer-de-hp7-tera-duracao-de-2-minutos-e-meio/
a 2 min 25 trailer is longer than a normal teaser trailer right? I'm glad to see more even if it includes the clips from MTV preview.
Jonny7003 June 18th, 2010, 8:34 pm The Half-Blood Prince Trailer 4 had the same runtime.
BlackCatScott June 18th, 2010, 8:38 pm 2 minutes 20 is much longer than I thought it would be, but this will be amazing! I hope it actually is this long, because I dont want the trailer to be released only to find that it lasts only one minute.
weasley9 June 18th, 2010, 9:21 pm Trailer now said to be 2mins 25 seconds and is an extention of the MTV trailer.
http://www.oclumencia.com.br/2010/06/trailer-de-hp7-tera-duracao-de-2-minutos-e-meio/
Well, even if it includes everything from the MTV trailer, that's still 1 min. 28 sec. more of footage!
MasterOfDeath June 18th, 2010, 9:59 pm It doesn't sound like a trailer though...it sounds like they are just giving us all of the ShoWest footage. We saw a bit of it during the MTV movie awards, now we're going to see the rest...
I can't see this being shown in theaters though...maybe the trailer with Eclipse will be completely different and only for part 1?
AccioHP June 18th, 2010, 10:02 pm It doesn't sound like a trailer though...it sounds like they are just giving us all of the ShoWest footage. We saw a bit of it during the MTV movie awards, now we're going to see the rest...
I can't see this being shown in theaters though...maybe the trailer with Eclipse will be completely different and only for part 1?
You think we can get 2 different ones 2 days apart?
MasterOfDeath June 18th, 2010, 10:03 pm You think we can get 2 different ones 2 days apart?
With talk of an aggressive marketing campaign, you never know. ;)
BubbleSnake June 18th, 2010, 10:44 pm So It's extended from the MTV sneak peak? So It's another part 1 and 2 trailer eh? Not just a Part 1 one trailer? :err: I mean I'm happy we're getting new stuff, I'm just surprised a little that it would be from both again, but I guess not everyone buys the Blu Ray version of HBP to see the sneak peek or watch MTV awards
LoopyLoonyLuna June 18th, 2010, 10:46 pm With talk of an aggressive marketing campaign, you never know. ;)
I'm a bit nervous about all of this aggressive marketing campaign stuff. I don't want this to turn into one of those films where, by the time you get to go to the theater, you have already seen half of the movie because they kept releasing clips. But I don't think they'll do that with DH. I HOPE they don't do that with DH...
So It's extended from the MTV sneak peak? So It's another part 1 and 2 trailer eh? Not just a Part 1 one trailer? :err: I mean I'm happy we're getting new stuff, I'm just surprised a little that it would be from both again, but I guess not everyone buys the Blu Ray version of HBP to see the sneak peek or watch MTV awards
Agreed. It is very strange that we haven't gotten a Part 1 only trailer. I'm surprised.
nicholasmanning June 18th, 2010, 11:12 pm how will they keep the split point a secret AFTER the test screenings or will they just not have test screenings in order to make sure nobody knows where the split will be thoughts?
Fhaps June 18th, 2010, 11:37 pm I sort of think that they will promote both parts for some months more... I guess they want to state clear that it is a story divided in two movies...
nicholasmanning June 19th, 2010, 12:07 am I sort of think that they will promote both parts for some months more... I guess they want to state clear that it is a story divided in two movies...
Vey true and i really dont mind seeing parts of the 2nd movie i dont know why evreone is so against it
Slartibartfast June 19th, 2010, 12:20 am - Everyone's having a good time at the wedding
- Voldemort and the Death Eaters enter the Ministry, small battle ensues but no real resistance present
- Kingsley's patronus appears, speaks the words: "the ministry has fallen"
- Voldemort enters Scrimgeour's office ("Good evening, minister"), perhaps Scrimgeour responds ("I expected you sooner"), the two duel for a small bit, Voldemort eventually kills Scrimgeour
- Kinglsley's Patronus continues: "the minister is dead"
- Shot of Voldemort looking triumphant, ordering his Death Eaters to bring him Harry Potter
- Kingsley's patronus finishes: "they are coming"
- We hear a bang of some sort of sound and the protective sphere begins to dissolve, Death Eaters apparate and crash the wedding, Order members duel with them, panic is everywhere, the trio dissapparate away from the chaos
That would be pretty cool! I wonder if they are gonna do something similar to that?
The parts of part 1 that im interested in seeing are Ron and Harry fighting, The Silver Doe, and the Ministry mayhem. Are they all gonna be disguised for the Ministry scenes in the film? Something tells me they wont be.
nicholasmanning June 19th, 2010, 12:25 am its already been confirmed that the trio are polyjuiced during the ministry scenes just like in the book
ArryGrotter June 19th, 2010, 1:00 am About the trailer: I'm not surprised that they are just extending the MTV trailer. It does make sense :)
And while they probably are just adding more footage from ShoWest, I think they still have to edit it to be more like a trailer. From what I gathered, the ShoWest footage was just a few scenes lumped together. I'm positive that the MTV trailer was not a direct copy of part of the ShoWest footage.
Plus, the ShoWest footage was incomplete (e.g. Voldemort's nose), but it was fine in the MTV trailer. This shows that at least some work was done on the MTV trailer when converting it from the ShoWest footage :)
decarus June 19th, 2010, 1:42 am And while they probably are just adding more footage from ShoWest, I think they still have to edit it to be more like a trailer. From what I gathered, the ShoWest footage was just a few scenes lumped together. I'm positive that the MTV trailer was not a direct copy of part of the ShoWest footage.
Plus, the ShoWest footage was incomplete (e.g. Voldemort's nose), but it was fine in the MTV trailer. This shows that at least some work was done on the MTV trailer when converting it from the ShoWest footage :)
I agree that it does seem like the footage from the MTV teaser is the same footage from the Showest, but of course it has been worked on and possibly reordered. I still wish they would show us something new for the trailer. While it is nice to see the showest stuff, we don't actually learn anything new. Though i hope they show the shot of Dobby so we can see if he is in the tent or the forest or somewhere else.
The parts of part 1 that im interested in seeing are Ron and Harry fighting, The Silver Doe, and the Ministry mayhem. Are they all gonna be disguised for the Ministry scenes in the film? Something tells me they wont be.
They will be polyjuiced for this scene. Here's a photo.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/outside%20the%20ministry/triotransformed.jpg
I forgot where I heard it, but I think it was from one of the Harry Potter crew members. Maybe David Heyman. It might have been put in this thread already, but correct me if I am wrong. Didn't someone say that they didn't want this movie to end with a death? Because the last three have ended with someone's death?
It was Yates (http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/herocomplex/2009/06/harry-potter-countdown-david-yates-.html) that said it. He also said things could change during editing which Heyman (http://www.mugglenet.com/app/news/show/3571) seems to suggest did happen. Though Heyman said they had a split point and then changed it and then reverted in part to the original split point.
"We're here in the forest, we've just finished the scene where Harry, Hermione and Ron are captured by the Snatchers after being chased through the woods. The Snatchers are brutal and scary but they aren't the most intelligent of creatures.They're trying to figure out exactly who it is they've caught."
I asked Yates if he had decided on the splitting point -- the juncture at which the seventh film will stop.
"Yes, I think we have," he said. "Things can change when you edit, of course, but the idea now is that it will be not long after the sequence that we are filming here today. That's what we're experimenting with. We've had three or four different ideas about where to cut off the seventh film. Traditionally, the movies have ended with a death or a bereavement, some sort of passage or arrival. This time we think we will end with more a cliffhanger. Again, though, that's the thought as of this moment."
q7x23 June 19th, 2010, 4:11 am I think they should make the split at Shell Cottage, after they've talked to Ollivander, when they make the deal with Griphook. Here's why:
1) It still happens at Shell Cottage and is within the range of chapters that we know the split will take place in.
2) It's a great cliffhanger. They're agreeing to break into Gringotts. The discussion about it would establish what the stakes were and what will happen if they lose, which is needed for a cliffhanger IMO. It will also establish that the Trio is agreeing to give up the Sword of Gryffindor, their only way of destroying Horcruxes. The audience will want to know how all this ends up.
3) Previous to Griphook, Harry will speak to Ollivander about the Hallows, giving the audience the info they need to understand them. These movies include the Hallows in the title, they're important, so the movie should end with this dramatic information about them.
4) It allows Harry's choice of Horcruxes over Hallows to be defined clearly as a result of that conversation. They can alter the continuity a bit so that Harry is seeing Voldemort take the Elder Wand while he's talking to Griphook, to help emphasize Harry's choice.
There would be so much dramatic tension if they show Voldemort taking the Elder Wand immediately after Ollivander just said it makes you immortal.
5) Dobby was involved with the diary. He may not have known it was a Horcrux, but he was involved in that part of the story and inadvertently played a part of the diary's destruction, which is another reason for Harry to choose Horcruxes over Hallows. They can include a line of dialogue from Harry that establishes this.
6) Dobby's death will be the climax of part 1. The falling action that follows would be his burial; the resolution would be the agreement. It's a perfect wrap to part 1.
Thoughts?
Montse June 19th, 2010, 5:24 am wow, I have been so hooked up in the world cup I have a lot of catching up to do .
I have a question, when is the new moon , twilight whatever film is next, comming out. I know Lc already told me but it is so irrelevant to me that I keep forgeting. I should be important cause we are getting the trailer but I have faith that like Aaron stated it will be on line before and I wont have to go to the movies just to watch it.When do you expect the HP trailer to be on line? Like I said before I am a bit hooked up on the world cup , if it does get leaked to the web , could someone be so kind as to owl me. I would be grateful.:)
I keep checking the thread constantly but still, I could miss it, it has happened to me before...
Fhaps June 19th, 2010, 5:45 am When do you expect the HP trailer to be on line? Like I said before I am a bit hooked up on the world cup , if it does get leaked to the web , could someone be so kind as to owl me. I would be grateful.:)
There's a big rumor that we're getting the trailer online on June 28th, a 2 and a half minute trailer of both parts.
EDIT: Oh, and Eclipse comes out on June 30th
nicholasmanning June 19th, 2010, 5:59 am I think untill we get an Official Confirmation from WB we shouldnt hold our breath thinking the trailer will be on the 28th. i have a feeling we wont see a trailer untill july possibly even august at the earliest
harry5678 June 19th, 2010, 6:07 am I think untill we get an Official Confirmation from WB we shouldnt hold our breath thinking the trailer will be on the 28th. i have a feeling we wont see a trailer untill july possibly even august at the earliest
WB has said that they would begin an aggressive mareting campaign with Eclipse, so if anything we WILL get a trailer June 30th, for sure. the only rumor here is that we'll get it 2 days early on the 28th and that itll be 2:20, but we're for certain getting a trailer by June 30th
ArryGrotter June 19th, 2010, 6:10 am If it is coming online on June 28th, then WB don't really have to announce it for another week. If I remember correctly, we were told about HBP's teaser only about 4 days prior :)
meesha1971 June 19th, 2010, 6:33 am I'm still puzzled as to why people are under this impression that there needs to be very little material for part 2 and why part 1 needs an overabundance crammed into it.
I'm not sure where you're coming from with that. You're proposing that they split part 1 where Ron leaves - leaving part 1 with very little to work with and cramming an overabundance of material into part 2. If they did that, part 1 would only be about 90 minutes long - and that's with padding and meaningless filler to compensate. That would make part 2 three hours or longer to get in the important elements to the story.
You broke the film down into 10 segments, but the problem is that each of those segments consists of specific elements for the story and they don't break down evenly when you look at the various elements involved. Let's compare each segment you mentioned based on the actual elements involved - and add in the things you left out.
1. Permanent goodbye to Little Whinging
Dark Lord Ascending (3 min)
In Memoriam/Dursleys Departing (5 min)
Seven Potters/Fallen Warrior (15 min)
Probably around 20 to 25 minutes - most likely closer to 20 minutes.
2. The wedding sequence
Ghoul in PJ’s/Dumbledore's Will (7 min)
Wedding/Death Eater attack (5 min)
Probably around 10 to 15 minutes - mostly likely closer to 10.
3. Visiting Kreacher and exploring back story
A Place to Hide (3 min)
At Grimmauld Place – Lily’s letter, R.A.B. (5 min)
Kreacher's Tale (5 min)
Time at GP planning the heist - possibly Lupin visiting (7 min)
If they keep Lupin's visit - probably around 20 minutes. Without Lupin's visit - around 15 minutes.
4. The Ministry
There's not really anything to break down here - probably around 10 minutes.
5. Camping - up to Ron leaving.
This will most likely consist of an intro scene immediately after they escape the Ministry that leads into a montage with very little dialog and concluding with Harry and Ron arguing - probably around 10 minutes.
That's your idea for part 1. Grand total - 80 minutes with the maximum possible time they might use. That's only 1 hour and 20 minutes.
6. Godric's Hollow
Godric's Hollow (4 min)
Bathilda’s Secret (5 min)
Flashback to the night the Potters were killed (3 min)
Life and Lies of Albus Dumbledore (3 min)
Probably around 15 minutes.
7. Silver Doe
The Silver Doe – Ron returns and destroys the locket (10 min)
Xenophilius Lovegood – Deathly Hallows (9 min)
More camping – Potterwatch (5 min)
Snatchers (3 min)
Probably around 25 to 30 minutes here - these scenes are intense and there is a lot going on so there will likely be more time devoted to them.
8. Malfoy Manor
Nothing to break down really - probably 10 to 15 minutes for this scene.
9. Gringotts
Dobby's Burial (5 min)
Shell Cottage - Griphook and Ollivander (10 min)
Gringott's break-in (10 min)
Final Hiding Place/Harry’s vision (3 min)
Probably around 25 to 30 minutes here as well with the emotional drama, significant exposition, and action sequences.
B]0. Hogwarts[/B]
Hogsmeade – Aberforth (5 min)
Room of Requirement – including Harry’s visions (7 min)
Ravenclaw tower (5 min)
McGonagall dueling Snape (2 min)
Evacuating the younger students/preparing to fight (7 min)
Ron and Hermione going to the COS to destroy the cup/Kiss scene (5 min)
Harry looking for the diadem (3 min)
Trio meets up back at RoR – talk to Ginny and Tonks (3 min)
confrontation with Malfoy, Crabbe, and Goyle in RoR (7 min)
fighting Death Eaters/Fred's death (2 min)
fighting their way to the Whomping Willow - quite a bit there (10 min)
Snape and Voldemort in the shack (5 min)
The Prince's Tale (10 min)
The Forest Again (5 min)
Kings Cross (5 min)
The Flaw in the Plan – final battle (20 min)
Harry versus Voldemort (3 min)
Events after the battle (3 min)
Harry talks to Dumbledore's portrait (2 min)
Epilogue (3 min)
This last segment is huge because there are so many elements involved - base estimation is 111 minutes. That's almost 2 hours just for this one segment with the grand total for part 2 being 3 hours and 21 minutes.
As the list above shows, if they followed the time line you suggested and split at Ron leaving, that would leave very little in part 1 - around 1 hour and 20 minutes - and a huge overabundance in part 2 - coming out around 3 hours and 21 minutes. As I said above, they might be able to stretch part 1 to around 90 minutes if they pad it with some meaningless filler, but why should they add meaningless filler to either film when they have more than enough source material to make two balanced films around 2 hours and 14 minutes by splitting at Dobby's burial?
The mid point of the story in terms of the elements involved does not occur when Ron leaves - or even at the mid point of the book with the Silver Doe. The mid point of the story is Malfoy Manor with the natural divide to the story being Dobby's death.
I could still imagine an argument amongst the trio about the hallows verses horcruxes at the Lovegoods. If that is enough then i could see that being in there.
The trio all three wearing the same outfits in all of those scenes.
I still think that is very unlikely. We can't see what Harry and Ron are wearing in the picture with Xenophilius so I'm not sure where you are getting that they have the same clothes on. They have the same coats on, but we can't see their clothes. I fully expect them to wear the same coat for any scene where they are going to be outside - or coming in from outside - when it is cold. So I don't see them wearing the same coat in two different scenes as confirmation that those scenes are connected.
I have to agree with MoD on this one. Harry's obsession with the Hallows is hugely significant for part 1. Harry's battle with himself and straying from his quest is the connecting theme there. If they cut that, then they don't have anything for part 1 beyond random action sequences with no connecting factor to hold it together.
If it is coming online on June 28th, then WB don't really have to announce it for another week. If I remember correctly, we were told about HBP's teaser only about 4 days prior :)
I thought there had already been some kind of announcement about a trailer coming out on June 28? :hmm:
Jonny7003 June 19th, 2010, 7:29 am Well, WB France said it would be online 28 June. WB also said before that there will be footage on the lego Harry Potter, coming out on June 30 and the email of the ''aggressive marketing'' indicates that there will be a trailer before Eclipse, also out on June 30.
ArryGrotter June 19th, 2010, 7:34 am I thought there had already been some kind of announcement about a trailer coming out on June 28?
I'd have to research about that. That was just from memory, and could be wrong. :)
Well, WB France said it would be online 28 June. WB also said before that there will be footage on the lego Harry Potter, coming out on June 30 and the email of the ''aggressive marketing'' indicates that there will be a trailer before Eclipse, also out on June 30.
I think that the LEGO stuff is not the trailer. It was announced it was Behind the Scenes footage :)
nicholasmanning June 19th, 2010, 7:34 am Hmmm i must be behind on the 8 ball about the Agressive Marketing Campaign im sorry im new here by the way. i was basing my theroy on when the first teaser trailer for HBP came out. but hey now i can start to get really excited!!! and i read somewhere on here it was going to be 2 minutes and 25 seconds thats awesome!!! im so excited. im really hoping to see the 7 potters and the wedding attack but i dont know if they,ll want to keep all the wand action under wraps untill later......thoughts on what might be in this trailer?
Jonny7003 June 19th, 2010, 7:42 am I think that the LEGO stuff is not the trailer. It was announced it was Behind the Scenes footage :)
Oh, I wasn't too sure what the footage was. I read here -
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00032064.html
that WB had confirmed new footage of DH will be on the Lego Harry Potter. :huh: So that's the Behind the Scenes stuff? idk.
ArryGrotter June 19th, 2010, 8:34 am im really hoping to see the 7 potters and the wedding attack but i dont know if they,ll want to keep all the wand action under wraps untill later......thoughts on what might be in this trailer?
I think that quick glimpses of those scenes would be good. I am hoping they don't show too much of the hogwarts battle in this teaser, though.
Oh, I wasn't too sure what the footage was. I read here -
http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00032064.html
that WB had confirmed new footage of DH will be on the Lego Harry Potter. So that's the Behind the Scenes stuff? idk.
Snitchseeker had a list of collectors edition extra material:
• 2-Sleeve Digi-pack
• Game disc
• Behind The Scenes of LEGO Harry Potter
• Fun on the Set of Harry Potter
• Exclusive Behind-the-Scenes Look at Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows
• Exclusive set of 4 House Crest LEGO magnets
http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/new-deathly-hallows-footage-attached-lego-y1-4-video-game-collectors-edition-72790/
:)
Jonny7003 June 19th, 2010, 8:42 am Snitchseeker had list list of collectors edition extra material:
http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/new-deathly-hallows-footage-attached-lego-y1-4-video-game-collectors-edition-72790/
:)
Ah I see. Thanks for clearing that up :)
decarus June 19th, 2010, 1:53 pm I still think that is very unlikely. We can't see what Harry and Ron are wearing in the picture with Xenophilius so I'm not sure where you are getting that they have the same clothes on. They have the same coats on, but we can't see their clothes. I fully expect them to wear the same coat for any scene where they are going to be outside - or coming in from outside - when it is cold. So I don't see them wearing the same coat in two different scenes as confirmation that those scenes are connected.
That is a good point. It is just their jackets we see, maybe they are wearing different clothes underneath. They do, i think, only have these heavy jackets. They all have multiple hoodies and sweater/jumpers. There are a lot of outside cold scenes where they are just wearing a heavy sweater/jumper and not a coat such as the silver doe scene where Harry has a blanket around him and no coat. If Hermione was in the shot we could tell, she always has on a hat or a scarf or something.
Well i think they shouldn't make a time cut there, so i hope they don't. They could still have Harry use Voldemort's name at the Lovegoods and that could be why the snatchers show up and not because Xenophilius turns them in. That would explain why Harry still gets stung.
2) It's a great cliffhanger. They're agreeing to break into Gringotts. The discussion about it would establish what the stakes were and what will happen if they lose, which is needed for a cliffhanger IMO. It will also establish that the Trio is agreeing to give up the Sword of Gryffindor, their only way of destroying Horcruxes. The audience will want to know how all this ends up.
3) Previous to Griphook, Harry will speak to Ollivander about the Hallows, giving the audience the info they need to understand them. These movies include the Hallows in the title, they're important, so the movie should end with this dramatic information about them.
I just think right before Gringotts is too late in the game. If they are going to cut after Dobby's death i think it should be before he speaks to Ollivander. The whole point, i would think, of having Ollivander reexplain everything about the hallows that Xenophilius just explained to the trio would be to reexplain it for Part 2.
6) Dobby's death will be the climax of part 1. The falling action that follows would be his burial; the resolution would be the agreement. It's a perfect wrap to part 1.
I don't think Dobby's death is a climax because he isn't an important enough character. The climax would be Malfoy Manor and the torture and escape.
PS. Do you think Ron is wearing the some sweater/jumper that he is wearing when he leaves during the silver doe scene? If so he was really living it rough after he left them.
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/camping/loch2.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/camping/51TvnVaqQXL__AA500_.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/fight%20Ron%20and%20Harry/Image130.jpg
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/silver%20doe/Image153.jpg
PSS. I am not really sure if Ron is wearing the same sweater/jumper. It is just too hard to tell.
DarthSkywalker June 19th, 2010, 3:54 pm I believe these exact lines were in the leaked script! :D
There is a leaked script?
Jonny7003 June 19th, 2010, 4:12 pm There is a leaked script?
Here it is -- http://www.harrypotterforum.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=1138
It came from a very reliable source from the IMDB Harry Potter board. The source has posted legitimate scripts before for OOTP and HBP.
DarthSkywalker June 19th, 2010, 4:25 pm Here it is -- http://www.harrypotterforum.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=1138
It came from a very reliable source from the IMDB Harry Potter board. The source has posted legitimate scripts before for OOTP and HBP.
Thanks. I now have something to do between WC matches. :clap:
iamwood June 19th, 2010, 7:57 pm Here it is -- http://www.harrypotterforum.com/comments.php?DiscussionID=1138
It came from a very reliable source from the IMDB Harry Potter board. The source has posted legitimate scripts before for OOTP and HBP.
How sure are we that this script is legit? Why is it that Ron mentions Ginny's tattoo comment from HBP?
And If I read the script correctly, the shot where Harry releases Hedwig, he is standing in the Hallway of the Dursley's house, not on their porch as in the MTV teaser... Just seems a little fishy... :whistle:
Jonny7003 June 19th, 2010, 8:32 pm The script usually has some changes when filming begins. There are many drafts of scripts too - this may be the earlier draft or it may be the final. We don't know....yet.
LordThingy June 19th, 2010, 8:54 pm How sure are we that this script is legit? Why is it that Ron mentions Ginny's tattoo comment from HBP?
And If I read the script correctly, the shot where Harry releases Hedwig, he is standing in the Hallway of the Dursley's house, not on their porch as in the MTV teaser... Just seems a little fishy... :whistle:
It came from the same guy that leaked legit scripts from OotP and HBP. And about the dragon tattoo line... Ron mentions it in the book as well, so they kept it because it was funny. Ginny didn't need to have said it in HBP for the line to make sense, they're family and ginny could have easily said something about a dragon tattoo off screen.
weasley9 June 20th, 2010, 1:56 am So, while reading the DH List, I came across this quote and found it interesting:
Have you worked with Ralph Fiennes yet? What was that like? CHRIS RANKIN: That was scary. There was a scene we were shooting where he comes right up to my face. I thought I was going to wet myself. I have to say, it took a lot of concentration to not just scream like a girl and run for the hills.
What do you guys think it could be?
SiriusBlack101 June 20th, 2010, 2:04 am So, while reading the DH List, I came across this quote and found it interesting:
What do you guys think it could be?
The only times I can think he'd possibly come into contact with Percy is during the Ministry takeover or the final battle at Hogwarts.
decarus June 20th, 2010, 2:12 am Yeah, i found that interesting too, so i added it to the list in the battle section because i wasn't really sure what he was talking about. I don't know how the scenes at the Ministry are going to work. It might just be a quick cut. I don't know. I think that would be cool if Percy was there though. I don't know why Voldemort would come right up to his face.
You make a good point thought it could be from the take over of the Ministry or from the Battle of Hogwarts.
AccioHP June 20th, 2010, 2:18 am At is interesting about Percy. Like others said I think it could be the battle or in the mi
usury. Are they showing voldemort take over the ministry? Maybe he is
in that scene?
ArryGrotter June 20th, 2010, 2:30 am When I read that, I first thought of 'The Flaw in the Plan' when Voldemort calls everyone out to the grounds because Harry 'died'...
katana June 20th, 2010, 5:25 am That little bit about Percy made me think of the Ministry too. Whatever scene it is, I hope it's good.
JustMeWayne June 20th, 2010, 8:07 am http://www.frontrowreviews.co.uk/genres/action-adventure/bbfc-warn-that-new-harry-potter-film-could-offend/4636
I just saw this article, not sure whether it has been discussed before, but the BBFC(British Board of Film Classification) saw an advanced screening of the film, and has rated it certificate 18.
I do believe that David Yates will cut down on the "adult humour, on screen violence and sexual content ", but is it the best decision for the movie? Will preventing children from watching the movie make more adults interested in watching Deathly Hallows?
weasley9 June 20th, 2010, 8:18 am http://www.frontrowreviews.co.uk/genres/action-adventure/bbfc-warn-that-new-harry-potter-film-could-offend/4636
I just saw this article, not sure whether it has been discussed before, but the BBFC(British Board of Film Classification) saw an advanced screening of the film, and has rated it certificate 18.
I do believe that David Yates will cut down on the "adult humour, on screen violence and sexual content ", but is it the best decision for the movie? Will preventing children from watching the movie make more adults interested in watching Deathly Hallows?
That article was published on April Fool's day. Check out the note at the bottom. ;)
LaDonna June 20th, 2010, 8:36 am I just saw the MTV Awards trailer for the films. I can't believe how amazing everything looks! The scale of this movie seems enormous. The protective transparent shield around Hogwarts beginning to break was something I never even considered them showing, and yet it was beautiful and frightening. The old dragon at Gringotts and the sweeping shots of the trio on top of the hills have a truly epic feel.
One of the shots I liked most was the death eater on the train tracks ahead of the Hogwarts Express. It almost seemed like a different style of film.
For the Harry/Ginny kiss scene, is that at Hogwarts during the battle? Ginny looks so tall there. And while Ginny looked "caught up in the moment", Harry did not. The thing that really bothered me the most about HBP was the Ginny/Harry relationship, since I was a huge Ginny fan and I really enjoyed the Harry/Ginny relationship in the book. I felt like HBP was written and directed by someone who had no idea what happened between Ginny and Harry in the books, or what Ginny as a character is like, and was merely given a one paragraph summary of the situation ahead of time.
Since DH is going to get a lot more time, I'm hoping the few brief Harry/Ginny moments that are going to be shown have more spark then the HBP film gave to it's Harry/Ginny moments. Ginny is a such a small part of the DH, so I don't imagine they would amp up her part. My guess is we'll see as little of her in the film as we did in the final book (although possibly more if they show a bit of what's happening at Hogwarts during the year, such as Ginny, Luna, and Neville stealing the sword). I just want those scenes to have an emotional impact since they will pretty much be the only really look we get at their relationship. We never see them in a relationship in HBP, and at the end of DH we see that our hero of the past seven books ends up married to her. It would be nice to see why the end up together. Also, if they keep to the book and put in mentions of Harry thinking about Ginny throughout his time camping, and checking the map for her, it would be nice to get a few scenes towards the beginning of the movie at the Burrow that really tells us what their relationship is like and how they really feel about each other.
In the book, HBP gave us Harry's point of view in detail, so we knew how he fell for her, when he fell for her, and how extremely happy he was with her during the month or so of dating they had before DD's death. In the DH book, whenever Harry would think about Ginny or miss her, we knew that he had been truly happy with her in HBP for the time they started their relationship, and so it was something real and painful for Harry that he longed for again. The HBP movie just didn't give us anything towards that. So, if the DH scenes don't set up their feelings and relationship in the few scenes at the Burrow, then Harry longing for Ginny and missing her during camping will lack depth.
But, back to topic, I loved the MTV preview and I'm more excited then ever about these films. I hope the trailer coming up next week includes more footage from the first film, though. I love we've gotten to see footage from both, but as it nears the release date, I'd like to get trailers that focus on the first film only.
JustMeWayne June 20th, 2010, 8:48 am That article was published on April Fool's day. Check out the note at the bottom. ;)
Oh Gosh, can't believe it was so! But then again, the date was set as 31st March for me, supposedly because of the time difference. :relax:
Thanks for pointing that out though!
Jack5555 June 20th, 2010, 6:18 pm Ohhh I can't wait to see V-Daddy in Percy's face. Definitely the Ministry.
AccioHP June 20th, 2010, 9:07 pm http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/video-dan-radcliffe-matthew-lewis-have-two-days-left-deathly-hallows-filming-74058/
apparently Matt Lewis and Dan Radcliffe both have 2 more days of secondary unit filming. Dan has to film
scenes under wter (so that's most likely the silver doe).
mysterious June 20th, 2010, 9:53 pm apparently Matt Lewis and Dan Radcliffe both have 2 more days of secondary unit filming. Dan has to film
scenes under wter (so that's most likely the silver doe).
Thats interesting news. It was a very good part of the book, and I would like to see some time being devoted to it. :)
Jack5555 June 20th, 2010, 11:42 pm http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/video-dan-radcliffe-matthew-lewis-have-two-days-left-deathly-hallows-filming-74058/
apparently Matt Lewis and Dan Radcliffe both have 2 more days of secondary unit filming. Dan has to film
scenes under wter (so that's most likely the silver doe).
What would Matt be doing, I wonder. Maybe the Sorting Hat bit with it on fire?
LordThingy June 21st, 2010, 2:08 am Re: Way Ahead for Deathly Hallows Movie(s) v.4
probably. It could also having something to do with the Tunnel to the Hog's Head.
Montse June 21st, 2010, 3:01 am probably. It could also having something to do with the Tunnel to the Hog's Head.
but this would include Emma and Rupert as well, wouldn´t it?
Jack5555 June 21st, 2010, 3:04 am but this would include Emma and Rupert as well, wouldn´t it?
Not the part when they just saw him in the portrait.
LordThingy June 21st, 2010, 3:04 am Well Neville came by himself down the passageway first to get the trio, they've probably already shot this though. It's most likely something to do with the sorting hat.
Montse June 21st, 2010, 3:31 am It's most likely something to do with the sorting hat.
I agree, the other option seems just too specific and too short. I think.
it´s either the sorting hat on fire, or Harry telling Neville about killing the snake, or maybe both.
Jack5555 June 21st, 2010, 4:43 am I agree, the other option seems just too specific and too short. I think.
it´s either the sorting hat on fire, or Harry telling Neville about killing the snake, or maybe both.
There were other people around when Harry told Neville about killing Nagini, so I doubt it is that.
Montse June 21st, 2010, 5:01 am There were other people around when Harry told Neville about killing Nagini, so I doubt it is that.
But the other people were unimpotant people as I recall it. Just students walking . Collecting the dead and wounded.
heathurrr June 21st, 2010, 5:26 am yeah like background people.
MoodysMagicEye June 21st, 2010, 8:34 am I think this filming will be of scenes requiring specialist filming, Dan's surposed to be doing underwater shooting (which would suggest the Silver Doe). I can quite believe that Matt's filming would be unrelated to Dan's.
JoAdams June 21st, 2010, 11:31 am Well Rupert Grint had mentioned that they filmed the 'pond' scenes last year and it was freezing cold. I highly doubt they've left the part where Harry is underwater that late. It's probably a different underwater scene, maybe something during the Battle of Hogwarts. I have a strong feeling we'll see battle stuff going on at the lake shores as well.
It just seems highly strange that they have shot the entire Silver Doe sequence last Spring and left the underwater sequence almost 14 months later. Dunno..
Montse June 21st, 2010, 12:18 pm If it includes water all I can think of is the Silver Doe.What else could Harry be doing under water?
Jumping off the dragon and connecting with Voldemort as he jumps?
Then again, its a fair point that they don´t need to be filming the same scene.
If they are , I am sticking with the sorting hat and the snake recommendation.
Jonny7003 June 21st, 2010, 12:29 pm Might be reshoots for the Silver Doe scene.
MoodysMagicEye June 21st, 2010, 12:46 pm They would have to film the Silver Doe on location above the water, this would obviously involve them going into the water, this is what Rupert was talking about I assumble. They would film the underwater part at Leavston in a special water like they did in GOF with the second task.
JustMeWayne June 21st, 2010, 2:43 pm I agree with MoodysMagicEye - it would definitely be part of a seperate scene, it would be nearly impossible to film inside a real lake/pond, the cameras would all have to be underwater, etc. I can imagine Harry jumping into the water, and we see him splash into the water, then the scene cuts to him underwater. Sort of like the pensieve scenes in HBP.
For Neville, could they be filming scenes which were not shown in the book, like maybe filming the DA Rebellion scenes? After all, as the leader of the DA, he may have additional scenes, maybe like a torture scene or a scene where he is plotting the rebellion? Also, it struck me that maybe they will show Neville alone inside the Room of Requirement, and then Ariana Dumbledore appearing on a portrait in the Room of Requirement, beckoning him to move forward and follow her. Then showing him sort of appear at Hog's Head. They may also show scenes of him inside the Room of Requirement, very lonely, and draw parallels to the fact that the Trio aren't the only ones suffering under Voldemort's Regime.
BTW, LordThingy, I love your siggy! Makes me realize that alot has changed over the 10 years... sobs... :tu:
AccioHP June 21st, 2010, 3:05 pm They would have to film the Silver Doe on location above the water, this would obviously involve them going into the water, this is what Rupert was talking about I assumble. They would film the underwater part at Leavston in a special water like they did in GOF with the second task.
Yeah that's what I think it is.
decarus June 21st, 2010, 6:22 pm Hey, the first mention (http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/video-dan-radcliffe-talks-filming-snapes-memory-scenes-dumbledores-office-74071/) of Snape's memories being filmed.
PSS. That was a bad quote. He actually mentions going into the pensieve. I always sort of thought they would cut that. I understand why they would decide to keep it because it would give Harry a moment alone and the chance to see the dead and so forth.
Jack5555 June 21st, 2010, 6:32 pm Hey, the first mention (http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/video-dan-radcliffe-talks-filming-snapes-memory-scenes-dumbledores-office-74071/) of Snape's memories being filmed.
PS. I wonder if this means that the scene is still in the pensieve in here or if Snape's death could be in Dumbledore's office. I still think it seems unnecessary to use the pensieve to show the memories, but that is what happens in the books, so who knows.
That's awesome! I don't think the death will happen in his office though. That would mean Voldemort is already in Hogwarts, which kind of defeats the purpose of the battle.
Jonny7003 June 21st, 2010, 6:38 pm Dan says that Snape is not in the room when he's looking at the memories, so he must die somewhere else.
decarus June 21st, 2010, 6:45 pm Yeah, i read the quote and posted it before i listened to the interview myself. He clearly mentions going into the pensieve in the interview, but the quote did not mention it.
DANIEL RADCLIFFE: I think one of the key scenes in the series happens in this room, which is, towards the end of the Seventh film where Harry learns something about Snape's past in relation to him. That takes place in this room in fact actually it takes place pretty much here. INTERVIEWER: Am I Snape or am I you? DANIEL RADCLIFFE: No, Snape's not here because there's just a pensieve and I am going into it like that and that is kind of pretty much, possibly the key scene in the series, you might say there is a certain...you could put an argument forward for that, so that's going to be a pretty amazing, I hope if I've done my job, it should be a pretty good scene.
AccioHP June 21st, 2010, 6:49 pm It's cool we finally got a quote about this scene!
decarus June 21st, 2010, 6:52 pm I always thought it was a possibility that they would cut the pensieve and just have Snape project the memories into Harry's head. I understand for pacing issues having Harry walk back and seeing the dead before the memories and the walk. It is necessary to show that Lupin is dead before the walk into the forest.
Fhaps June 21st, 2010, 7:50 pm Oh, I'm very very glad that they will actually show the scene as in the book. I never liked the idea of Snape just throwing the memories inside Harry's mind; I'm very happy.
:clap:
q7x23 June 21st, 2010, 7:52 pm DANIEL RADCLIFFE: I think one of the key scenes in the series happens in this room, which is, towards the end of the Seventh film where Harry learns something about Snape's past in relation to him. That takes place in this room in fact actually it takes place pretty much here. INTERVIEWER: Am I Snape or am I you? DANIEL RADCLIFFE: No, Snape's not here because there's just a pensieve and I am going into it like that and that is kind of pretty much, possibly the key scene in the series, you might say there is a certain...you could put an argument forward for that, so that's going to be a pretty amazing, I hope if I've done my job, it should be a pretty good scene.
I missed something: which room does this quote come from? Dumbledore's office?
boushh June 21st, 2010, 8:00 pm Well cool. I would have been fine if they didn't do the pensieve thing, but I'm glad they are. I always really loved that Harry goes back to the office to view the memories, especially since quite a few of them take place there. Glad to know that Dan thinks it's an important scene too. :tu:
decarus June 21st, 2010, 8:09 pm DANIEL RADCLIFFE: I think one of the key scenes in the series happens in this room, which is, towards the end of the Seventh film where Harry learns something about Snape's past in relation to him. That takes place in this room in fact actually it takes place pretty much here. INTERVIEWER: Am I Snape or am I you? DANIEL RADCLIFFE: No, Snape's not here because there's just a pensieve and I am going into it like that and that is kind of pretty much, possibly the key scene in the series, you might say there is a certain...you could put an argument forward for that, so that's going to be a pretty amazing, I hope if I've done my job, it should be a pretty good scene.
I missed something: which room does this quote come from? Dumbledore's office?
Yes, here is the original video (http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/video-dan-radcliffe-talks-filming-snapes-memory-scenes-dumbledores-office-74071/). They are standing in Dumbledore's office at Island's of Adventure.
MasterOfDeath June 21st, 2010, 10:35 pm Well cool. I would have been fine if they didn't do the pensieve thing, but I'm glad they are. I always really loved that Harry goes back to the office to view the memories, especially since quite a few of them take place there. Glad to know that Dan thinks it's an important scene too. :tu:
I am VERY happy they are keeping it the pensieve!!!! This is GREAT confirmation for any fan of the Prince's Tale. If they would have Snape look into Harry's eyes and see the memories that way, they would undoubtedly be reduced to quick flashes and that would be terrible.
Now we know the Prince's Tale will not only be in the movie but also in a somewhat complete form (if not every single scene).
THIS IS AWESOME!!!! :D It's good to finally have confirmation. :tu:
The pensieve was one of the best parts of the HBP film. The effects, the design of the pensieve itself, etc was too good to never see it again. Way better than the cheesy TV show esque effects used to portray legilmency in OOTP.
silver ink pot June 22nd, 2010, 1:22 am Well cool. I would have been fine if they didn't do the pensieve thing, but I'm glad they are. I always really loved that Harry goes back to the office to view the memories, especially since quite a few of them take place there. Glad to know that Dan thinks it's an important scene too. :tu:
Indeed!!! This is great news (if they keep it the way Dan thinks!) !!! :clap:
HPFanNewbie June 22nd, 2010, 1:42 am Any chance the water scene he Is filming Is the pensieve scenes for TPT?
SiriusBlack101 June 22nd, 2010, 2:25 am I am VERY happy they are keeping it the pensieve!!!! This is GREAT confirmation for any fan of the Prince's Tale. If they would have Snape look into Harry's eyes and see the memories that way, they would undoubtedly be reduced to quick flashes and that would be terrible.
Now we know the Prince's Tale will not only be in the movie but also in a somewhat complete form (if not every single scene).
THIS IS AWESOME!!!! :D It's good to finally have confirmation. :tu:
The pensieve was one of the best parts of the HBP film. The effects, the design of the pensieve itself, etc was too good to never see it again. Way better than the cheesy TV show esque effects used to portray legilmency in OOTP.
I hope the Prince's Tale is done justice in the film, and this news seems to indicate that may indeed happen. The quick flash of Snape's Worst Memory in OOTP was disappointing, though I am optimistic it will be included in its full form this time around. And I think it will be because we need to firmly establish Snape's love for Lily as the only reason he turned on Voldemort.
Here's a breakdown of the memories we're shown during the chapter, and my thoughts on them. Am I way off base?
- Snape spying on Lily/Petunia: seems like it could be cut, at least Petunia's part, and used in conjunction with the next memory
- Snape meets with Lily: perhaps the above scene can be combined with this one; Snape still spies on Lily, but they have their chat after he is discovered instead of in two separate memories. As an aside, I hope they keep the line about Lily being a muggleborn not making any difference
- Lily and family on Platform 9 and 3/4: not necessary in my mind, as I don't think they'll include Petunia's wish to join Hogwarts or her letter to Dumbledore
- On the Hogwarts Express: I'm not sure about this one... it would be a nice scene to include, as it also establishes the early hatred between James and Snape, but it really isn't essential to include
- The Sorting Hat: should be included, though I think the audience will know that they didn't both end up in Gryffindor/Slytherin
- Meeting a few year's later: could be included to show that they are still best friends, but that could also come after he calls Lily a mudblood
- Snape's Worst Memory: hopefully it will be included in full this time, and the parts with Lily are an absolute must
- Talking outside the Fat Lady portrait: shows the end of their friendship, and Snape's remorse... want to see it included
- Meeting with Dumbledore / Snape's agreement to protect Harry: these will obviously be included; I wonder if we'll see an additional scene where Snape overhears the prophecy and tells Voldemort?
- Talks with Dumbledore in books 1,4: not needed, though I hope Dumbledore's line about them sorting too soon can be included somewhere
- Snape saves Dumbledore and agrees to kill him: hmm, I wonder if this will be included? ;)
- Snape's argument with Dumbledore: we already had some of this scene in HBP, however, the timeline will be a bit skewed, as it was done right before Harry and Dumbledore left for the Cave; I suspect we'll just see an earlier scene where Dumbledore reveals all then
- Dumbledore reveals everything: see above
- Talking to Dumbledore's portrait, confunding Mundungus, accidentally cursing George: the talking should be included; I don't think we need to see Mundungus actually being confunded; cursing George's ear off should be in
- Snape in Sirius's bedroom: not sure on this one, as I don't know if they'll keep Lily's letter in DH1 or not; it's a short and touching scene, so it wouldn't be difficult to include if they choose to
- Before the silver doe: I'm sure this will be in just in case some of the audience didn't figure out he cast the doe patronus :lol:
Is 10 minutes a good estimate for the time they'll spend on the sequence? I don't know how that would work out compared to my list of scenes that should be included, but it should be enough time to do everything justice.
JR637 June 22nd, 2010, 3:09 am Oh, I'm very very glad that they will actually show the scene as in the book. I never liked the idea of Snape just throwing the memories inside Harry's mind; I'm very happy.
:clap:
I agree. Snape zapping into Harry's mind would have worked, but the way they did it in the book is much better and I'm glad they are doing it that way.
-JR
LordThingy June 22nd, 2010, 4:00 am I honestly think Snape's memories will be extremely cut down. It'll probably be only 3 minutes max.
Jack5555 June 22nd, 2010, 4:58 am I honestly think Snape's memories will be extremely cut down. It'll probably be only 3 minutes max.
Yeah. There is so much there, so it would be hard to keep the "non-book reader" audience entertained.
nicholasmanning June 22nd, 2010, 5:03 am it would have been better if this entire scene was on the cutting room floor......hella boring
heathurrr June 22nd, 2010, 5:49 am ^whaaaa? they are the backbone to the entire story, pretty much.
ArryGrotter June 22nd, 2010, 5:52 am it would have been better if this entire scene was on the cutting room floor......hella boring^whaaaa? they are the backbone to the entire story, pretty much.
:agree: I want this film series to somewhat make sense, which is something they haven't been great at so far. Film-only fans don't really understand how great this story is at tying together everything.
heathurrr June 22nd, 2010, 5:56 am I have a feeling, it will be a moment of 'OHHHH OMG! the whole time...he was good! it all makes sense now!'
thats just the way i see it. i think movie-go'ers will appreciate it and definitely comprehend it. without it, it'll just be a blah, nothing-to-it story.
nicholasmanning June 22nd, 2010, 6:07 am yea true but if they dont do it right it still wont make sense
decarus June 22nd, 2010, 6:13 am I hope they cut as much of this as they can and still have the films make sense.
- Snape spying on Lily/Petunia:
- Snape meets with Lily:
- Lily and family on Platform 9 and 3/4:
- On the Hogwarts Express:
I think the first four scenes could all be one either on the Hogwart's express or meeting before that. I don't think they should show young Petunia unless it is a cameo.
The Sorting Hat:
A quick flash of the sorting makes sense. They only have to show Snape walking over to the Slytherin's while Lilly watches.
- Meeting a few year's later:
- Snape's Worst Memory:
- Talking outside the Fat Lady portrait:
I think these could also just be one scene or just very quick flashes.
The scene where Snape tells Dumbledore that Voldemort is going after Lilly seems sort of important and i think that she be in there.
- Meeting with Dumbledore / Snape's agreement to protect Harry:
I think this scene is necessary to recognize that Lilly is dead, but could be a quick flash.
- Snape saves Dumbledore and agrees to kill him:
This could just be a quick flash. I think they already filmed a bit of it and we saw Dumbledore grabbing the ring in one of the trailers for HBP.
- Snape's argument with Dumbledore:
- Dumbledore reveals everything:
These could all be one scene on the tower before Harry and Dumbledore apparate.
- Before the silver doe:
I actually think it is more likely they will show a bit of the silver doe scene but from Snape's perspective.
I hope no more then five minutes. If they do a lot of quick flashes they can have it make sense and still have it go quickly.
PS. I would almost rather them cut the Lilly stuff and have some more moments of Snape actually doing good. Like showing him try to save George and missing and getting his ear.
heathurrr June 22nd, 2010, 6:21 am ^ i agree. the most important things imo are:
snape pleading with voldemort to save lily
snape going to dumbledore about lily dying
snape promising to watch over harry
snape doing good stuff
snapes patronus and the famous line 'after all this time?' 'always' [although now that i think about it...it first needs to be mentioned that that was lily's patronus as well or it wont make any sense...hmm..]
Slartibartfast June 22nd, 2010, 6:53 am Merlin's Beard! Thats awesome! They are gonna keep the pensieve bit in! YUS! :clap: I really hope they dont cut too much out of Snape's memories though. Maybe shorten some but not cut them down so much.
ArryGrotter June 22nd, 2010, 7:35 am decarus, I mostly agree with you. But I don't think the remaining scenes should be flashes. There is a lot of info that needs to be told if you are combining scenes. :)
I agree 1-3 memories are needed for pre/early Hogwarts, 1 or 2 for SWM, 1 where Snape tells Dumbledore about Voldemort's plans and the 1 after Lily dies.
Then I agree nothing more (such as Harry's first day) needs to be shown until the ring. so that's 1 more. Then 1, like you suggested, for the argument and all the information. I personally don't know if they need the patronus scene, so maybe another 1.
I think each of these scenes should be between 30 and 60 seconds (Maybe up to 90 for the very important ones). I don't think 'Quick flashes' would suffice for the tell all scene of the entire series.
So that would mean that there would be between 6 and 10 memories. That would mean a 5 to 10 minute sequence, which I think it the amount of time required :)
nicholasmanning June 22nd, 2010, 8:47 am that sounds good a 10 minute sequence!!!
weasley9 June 22nd, 2010, 9:06 am I hope no more then five minutes. If they do a lot of quick flashes they can have it make sense and still have it go quickly.
I dunno...it's possible if it's mostly quick flashes, it might move to quickly for the audience to entirely grasp it. And, since these are some of the key scenes of the series, I think more time should be devoted to them. :)
hagger4 June 22nd, 2010, 11:29 am Does anyone think that instead of redoing SWM they could write another similar scene where Snape calls Lily a mudblood so as not to confuse the audience?
Fhaps June 22nd, 2010, 1:50 pm Does anyone think that instead of redoing SWM they could write another similar scene where Snape calls Lily a mudblood so as not to confuse the audience?
I don't think the audience will be confused if they show the complete scene. In OotP they didn't show the entire scene, we didn't even see Snape calling Lily mudblood. I think it would work, I really would like to see the proper scene, but I don't know if they will do it.
If they're going to show it I think they will need a re-shoot, I guess they couldn't use the scene they filmed for OotP. We know because of some pictures that that scene was filmed with Harry on it, like following the actual way in wich the pensieve works, but I guess in DH they will follow the HBP-way... would it be possible to cut Harry's part of the scene and still have a good scene? I think it depends on the way they filmed it... we'll see.
Jonny7003 June 22nd, 2010, 2:25 pm New images from Deathly Hallows (small and not the best quality)
http://galeriehpreliques.free.fr/displayimage.php?album=44&pos=13
ThaiHPFan June 22nd, 2010, 3:18 pm New images from Deathly Hallows (small and not the best quality)
http://galeriehpreliques.free.fr/displayimage.php?album=44&pos=13
It seems the Voldemort and Dobby pics are from the earlier films. :(
Jonny7003 June 22nd, 2010, 3:32 pm Yeah I really wanted to see Dobby from Part 1, but hey - we got Bathilda Bagshot on the cover though :)
Jack5555 June 22nd, 2010, 4:02 pm It seems the Voldemort and Dobby pics are from the earlier films. :(
Agreed. Boy I hope Dobby is in the trailer next week.
ellenmichellen June 22nd, 2010, 4:15 pm Boy I hope Dobby is in the trailer next week.
So has it been confirmed that the trailer will be released next week then? I'd read that it would premiere at the opening of Eclipse, but haven't heard anything since.
ThaiHPFan June 22nd, 2010, 4:23 pm So has it been confirmed that the trailer will be released next week then? I'd read that it would premiere at the opening of Eclipse, but haven't heard anything since.
It should, unless WB is planning an extra late marketing campaign (or delaying the film again) :scared:
KJRiddle June 22nd, 2010, 4:25 pm Agreed. Boy I hope Dobby is in the trailer next week.
Actually I think he will be. In post-production they usually 'work' this way:
First they add and finish the CG characters: Voldemort's nose, Dobby and Kreacher so everyone's 'on-screen'.
Once all the characters are added and finished, they finish the scenery: landscape, buildings and stuff.
All the special effects: spells, other magic, explosions and all that stuff.
So probably Dobby will already be finished in some parts of the first movie.
ellenmichellen June 22nd, 2010, 4:56 pm It should, unless WB is planning an extra late marketing campaign (or delaying the film again) :scared:
Okay, thanks. It better not be delayed! November already seems too far away. I have really high hopes for this movie, I want it now! :D
katana June 22nd, 2010, 5:14 pm I dunno...it's possible if it's mostly quick flashes, it might move to quickly for the audience to entirely grasp it. And, since these are some of the key scenes of the series, I think more time should be devoted to them. :)
I agree. They should spend a little more time on these memories. I'll be disappointed if they do them as quick flashes.
And I'm super happy to know finally that they have shot these scenes! TPT is one of my favorite chapters, after 'The Forest Again' and I really want to see them done well.
The new sticker book pics are great! Nice to see Bathilda. The LV pic does look like one from earlier films, but the Dobby one could be new.
I hope we do get a shot or two of him in the trailer next week.
Jack5555 June 22nd, 2010, 5:29 pm So has it been confirmed that the trailer will be released next week then? I'd read that it would premiere at the opening of Eclipse, but haven't heard anything since.
The opening of Eclipse is next week :)
lcbaseball22 June 22nd, 2010, 5:41 pm So has it been confirmed that the trailer will be released next week then? I'd read that it would premiere at the opening of Eclipse, but haven't heard anything since.
Well in the past the trailers have debuted online via sattelite feed (this is how they get the trailers out to the cinemas and other media sources)...if they plan to do that again this time expect an official announcement from WB with the coordinates in the next few days. But note that such an annoucement is largely irrelevant to us because you can't pick up this sattelite feed unless you have special eqiupment :lol:
But it does tend to result in the trailer surfacing online a few days before...usually via AOL Video or MSN movies, if i recall correctly.
Tonks_Animagus June 22nd, 2010, 5:50 pm I just saw the trailer, it's literally awesome. It gave me shivers! Of course, we're going to have more action and battling! Yay! I'll be crying by the end of Deathly Hallows Part 2. Bye bye Harry Potter :'(
SiriusBlack101 June 22nd, 2010, 5:56 pm PS. I would almost rather them cut the Lilly stuff and have some more moments of Snape actually doing good. Like showing him try to save George and missing and getting his ear.
I don't see why they can't do both. ;) I think it needs to be clearly established that Snape loved Lily - after all, that is the only reason he is actually performing good acts and helping Harry. Now, does this mean we need every Snape/Lily interaction from the book? Certainly not - I think it could be cut down to their meeting as children (I like the idea of combining the first four memories onto the Hogwarts Express, it would save a lot of time), Snape calling her a Mudblood and his later regret, and then the moments with Dumbledore that include information about Lily.
Fhaps June 22nd, 2010, 6:16 pm Do you think that they will keep the green tone from the HBP pensieve scenes? Or it was a tone just of that scenes? Which would be a good tone for the DH pensieve scenes?
jan74 June 22nd, 2010, 6:57 pm Do you think that they will keep the green tone from the HBP pensieve scenes? Or it was a tone just of that scenes? Which would be a good tone for the DH pensieve scenes?
I think they will use a different tone for the pensieve scene in Deathly Hallows. I believe the green tone in HBP was meant to create a sinister atmosphere to dramatize the memory and show the darkness involved. I haven't got a particular preference for the tone of the pensieve scene from DH. I'm not so worried, though, about how the scene will play out.
Pensieve scenes are different from legilimency, the shots we saw in OoTP in Snape's worst memory were definitely right for those kind of memories, where you shift more quickly between different images. They will need to reduce the number of incidents from Snape's memories in the book, though.
KJRiddle June 22nd, 2010, 7:00 pm Do you think that they will keep the green tone from the HBP pensieve scenes? Or it was a tone just of that scenes? Which would be a good tone for the DH pensieve scenes?
I would say a silvery tone, little bit grey and colourless, it isn't exactly the most beautiful story Snape's telling. Or like fading from something more sephia (his childhood: old, long time ago), to more colorfull (Lily enters his life), to the more achromatic tone (Lily doesn't want to see him anymore, and she dies, after which he turns into this cold Snapish guy). The color scheme they used during the Cave sequence from HBP is perfect for the last one.
Fhaps June 22nd, 2010, 8:07 pm I would say a silvery tone, little bit grey and colourless, it isn't exactly the most beautiful story Snape's telling. Or like fading from something more sephia (his childhood: old, long time ago), to more colorfull (Lily enters his life), to the more achromatic tone (Lily doesn't want to see him anymore, and she dies, after which he turns into this cold Snapish guy). The color scheme they used during the Cave sequence from HBP is perfect for the last one.
Yeah, I was thinking on something similar; a variation of tone depending on the memory, from lightness to darkness. I think it will see pretty cool with all those effects they showed us in HBP :D
harry5678 June 22nd, 2010, 8:35 pm I just saw the trailer, it's literally awesome. It gave me shivers! Of course, we're going to have more action and battling! Yay! I'll be crying by the end of Deathly Hallows Part 2. Bye bye Harry Potter :'(
Im surprised no one has adressed this yet...but how did you manage to see the trailer? Because i dont believe this one bit.
decarus June 22nd, 2010, 8:40 pm Yeah, i thought he was just confused and was talking about the MTV teaser, so i didn't even acknowledge it. Maybe not though.
lcbaseball22 June 22nd, 2010, 8:44 pm Im surprised no one has adressed this yet...but how did you manage to see the trailer? Because i dont believe this one bit.
It hasn't been addressed because obviously she was referring to the "trailer" shown during the MTV awards :) She's just a bit behind...
AccioHP June 22nd, 2010, 8:54 pm Just saw the new small pictures.. I hope we get some big ones soon.
Also, it is possible for the trailer to be out even before the 28?
nicholasmanning June 22nd, 2010, 9:18 pm That guy obviously is lying!!! There is no way he has seen the trailer!!!
LordThingy June 22nd, 2010, 9:22 pm That guy obviously is lying!!! There is no way he has seen the trailer!!!
he isn't lying. you just interpreted what he said wrong. He is talking about the MTV teaser.
Bscorp June 22nd, 2010, 9:23 pm it would have been better if this entire scene was on the cutting room floor......hella boring
That is your opinion of course, but it is - as someone else said- the backbone of the story and I found this section to be the most moving part. JKR built the series around Snape's story line so in a way these memories are a pay off for the whole series.
nicholasmanning June 22nd, 2010, 10:11 pm hmmmm......a very good point i just found this point of the book very bland
silver ink pot June 22nd, 2010, 10:22 pm I dunno...it's possible if it's mostly quick flashes, it might move to quickly for the audience to entirely grasp it. And, since these are some of the key scenes of the series, I think more time should be devoted to them. :)
And David Heyman the producer said on Mugglecast that he knew people hated it that they left out Snape's memory scenes in OotP and Dumbledore's funeral in HBP, so I don't think they will make that same mistake again with the flashing memories that no one understood. In fact he said:
MN: Yeah. I know one of the things you just brought up - difficult decisions - the Marauders storyline and the House Elves are kind of the two things that stick out amongst fans. Obviously very difficult.
Heyman: I'd deem it a whole host more (laughter) ... the Funeral, the Memories. I mean, boy oh boy, I'm sure that if there was a Voodoo Doll of me . . .
MN: (laughter)
Heyman: There would be quite a few pins in there for missed things.
~ Mugglecast Transcript (http://rattlesnakeroot.livejournal.com/133388.html)
ArryGrotter June 22nd, 2010, 10:25 pm ^ I'm pretty sure he was refferring to the memory scenes from HBP cut :)
Oh, I hope they announce this trailer soon :shrug:
nicholasmanning June 22nd, 2010, 10:37 pm what happens if Monday comes and no trailer arrives?
lcbaseball22 June 22nd, 2010, 10:43 pm what happens if Monday comes and no trailer arrives?
Well, the Twilight movie doesn't come out until the 30th so all that would mean is they decided to forgo or delay the satellite distribution this time...which wouldn't be unprecedented considering for OotP it was released online two days AFTER it premiered with Happy Feet.
However, I'm pretty sure I read something about a confirmed satellite feed (WB france?) so I expect it'll be online a few days before...
decarus June 22nd, 2010, 10:51 pm Does anyone know if the calendar we got all those photos of is a Part 1 calendar? I don't think it says, but i wonder if anyone else remembers it saying it was somewhere.
nicholasmanning June 22nd, 2010, 10:51 pm i really hope so im dying to see this trailer i just hope that it is indeed with Eclipse and not some other movie thats still a few months out
lcbaseball22 June 22nd, 2010, 11:48 pm i really hope so im dying to see this trailer i just hope that it is indeed with Eclipse and not some other movie thats still a few months out
If it's not with Eclipse then the WB rep lied in the email she sent me :relax:
ArryGrotter June 23rd, 2010, 1:32 am If it's not with Eclipse then the WB rep lied in the email she sent me
Or was misinformed. But I don't doubt it yet :)
Anyway, the HBP teaser was announced Jul 24 (http://www.hpana.com/news.20556.html) and came out Jul 29 (http://www.hpana.com/news.20559.html).
If we are to be told 5 days beforehand again, we'll get the announcement tomorrow :)
Montse June 23rd, 2010, 1:54 am I hope it is soon enough. I am craving Deathly Hallow´s new info.
AccioHP June 23rd, 2010, 1:55 am Or was misinformed. But I don't doubt it yet :)
Anyway, the HBP teaser was announced Jul 24 (http://www.hpana.com/news.20556.html) and came out Jul 29 (http://www.hpana.com/news.20559.html).
If we are to be told 5 days beforehand again, we'll get the announcement tomorrow :)
I hope we get it too :)
heathurrr June 23rd, 2010, 4:45 am Wait you saw the trailer? huhhh?
decarus June 23rd, 2010, 4:49 am Nobody saw the trailer. They were just talking about the MTV teaser. Hopefully we will get a real theatrical trailer soon enough.
MasterOfDeath June 23rd, 2010, 4:56 am I'm intrigued by this satellite concept...I'm not too familiar with how it works, but it brings to mind being huddled in the woods in the far reaches of nowhere, in a tent, and fiddling with some old fashioned television to try and catch the satellite broadcast of the DH trailer. It would come out static and slightly grainy but it'd be the long awaited footage from DH. Something special.
Just what the Satellite concept brings to my mind. :lol: How exactly does it work? What type of equipment do you need to have to pick up a satellite?
ArryGrotter June 23rd, 2010, 5:20 am From my understanding, it's special equipment found in TV studios and the like, and not something available to the general public :)
I wish they'd just confirm it. Why do they only confirm it with only a few days to go? Was there any harm of confirming a week ago? I'm just getting impatient :lol: :)
MasterOfDeath June 23rd, 2010, 5:22 am From my understanding, it's special equipment found in TV studios and the like, and not something available to the general public :)
I wish they'd just confirm it. Why do they only confirm it with only a few days to go? Was there any harm of confirming a week ago? I'm just getting impatient :lol: :)
As am I! I know it's impossible they delayed the film again but you never know.. :shrug:
Unless they realized in the editing room that they might have enough footage for THREE films and are holding back the marketing until they decide on whether to release DH as three films....One in November 2010, Two in July 2011 and Three in November 2011, exactly ten years after PS/SS.
lcbaseball22 June 23rd, 2010, 5:23 am From my understanding, it's special equipment found in TV studios and the like, and not something available to the general public :)
Yeah, that's how I understand it too...but I came across this article for the TDK trailer and perhaps that's not the case
Those of you tuning in via space-age technology tune your dishes at
12:00 AM – 12:15 AM ET or 8:00 AM – 8:15 AM ET on Monday December 17, 2007.
The coordinates for both feeds:
GAL 26 (IA-6) / Transponder 9, C-Band
Downlink Frequency: 3880.000 V
Trouble number for feeds: 310-287-3800
source- http://www.mania.com/sat-coordinates-for-dark-knight-trailer-debuting-monday_article_108943.html
So MAYBE those of you with a dish can pick up these things but I still think you need a special receiver or something to tune in to the right frequency and such :shrug:
heathurrr June 23rd, 2010, 5:28 am all this talk is confusing me haha. are we going to be able to watch it online or....??
lcbaseball22 June 23rd, 2010, 5:31 am Ah, here this should answer your question Vince... http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080724152346AAkjQVW
I was on Mugglenet.com and I just saw that WB has announced that there is going to be a worldwide premiere of the official HBP trailer and the satelite mumbo jumbo is
Coordinates for both feeds:
Galaxy 28, Transponder 19, C-Band Analog
Downlink Frequency: 4080V
Audio Configuration: 6.2/6.8
Can someone tell me please what this means?
Thanks!
2 years agoUnless you have a satellite transponder in your backyard - complete with one of those 6 foot satellite dishes - this isn't of any use to you. These would be used by the TV station to pick up the broadcast, which they could then send out to their viewers.
Either way, don't worry about it. The trailer will hit TV, movie theaters, and the internet simultaneously. In fact, I'm sure Yahoo will have it up under their movie section. In HD even.
Ok, so pretty much as I figured :lol:
ArryGrotter June 23rd, 2010, 5:32 am all this talk is confusing me haha. are we going to be able to watch it online or....??
We will absolutely be able to watch it online :) It all depends when WB announced it'll be released :)
heathurrr June 23rd, 2010, 5:33 am ohhh okay. whew.
ArryGrotter June 23rd, 2010, 6:05 am Anyway, the HBP teaser was announced Jul 24 (http://www.hpana.com/news.20556.html) and came out Jul 29 (http://www.hpana.com/news.20559.html).
If we are to be told 5 days beforehand again, we'll get the announcement tomorrow
To add to this research:
Jul 24 was a Friday, and Jul 29 was a Wednesday. I suspect the trailers coming out on Jun 28 (Mon) because Eclipse comes out on a Wednesday, when The Mummy came out on a Friday. However, it could be that we don't get the announcement till Friday, as this might just be the announcement day they use :)
And also, I just realised that when I researched when we'd expect the HBP teaser, I found a strong colleration between the corresponding game announcement and the trailer release. We all know that the DH1 game has been announced in the past week or so, and that its new website went live yesterday. If I am remembering correctly, this is a STRONG sign that the trailer is very close :)
lcbaseball22 June 23rd, 2010, 6:19 am And also, I just realised that when I researched when we'd expect the HBP teaser, I found a strong colleration between the corresponding game announcement and the trailer release. We all know that the DH1 game has been announced in the past week or so, and that its new website went live yesterday. If I am remembering correctly, this is a STRONG sign that the trailer is very close :)
Not to mention exclusive BTS footage that's going to be with the LEGO game...I don't think that's just coincidence it comes out the 28th
nicholasmanning June 23rd, 2010, 6:22 am I really hope so. Im wondering how many trailers there will be with this movie. I remember half blood prince had 4 but i really hope this has one and only one. i felt like after seeing 4 trailers for the last one i had seen 90 percent of the movie before i even set foot in the theatre.
MC2456 June 23rd, 2010, 6:23 am There's a trailer on the MuggleNet site. I'm sure that's what Annie's talking about. Anyway, who's going to be in costume during DH?
lcbaseball22 June 23rd, 2010, 6:23 am I really hope so. Im wondering how many trailers there will be with this movie. I remember half blood prince had 4 but i really hope this has one and only one. i felt like after seeing 4 trailers for the last one i had seen 90 percent of the movie before i even set foot in the theatre.
Correction- Half-Blood Prince had EIGHT...surely a record :lol: Some of 'em were online only though...and some weren't even announced, IIRC
And one must remember that the promotion was off the wall due to the delay...they had to keep the fans happy during the wait so yeah...
Otherwise, I think standard fare for a Blockbuster movie is 3 trailers (1 teaser and 2 theatrical) And of course for DH it would depend on how you define what we've seen so far...cause according to some we've had 2 "teaser" trailers already (2nd half on the HBP DVD and MTV)
nicholasmanning June 23rd, 2010, 6:37 am There's a trailer on the MuggleNet site. I'm sure that's what Annie's talking about. Anyway, who's going to be in costume during DH?
I know i will be in full costume on the night of the release of Dh with my wand at the ready in case im ambushed by any deatheaters:err:
ArryGrotter June 23rd, 2010, 6:42 am Just found something else:
http://hpana.com/news.18580.html - For GoF's teaser, the satellite co-ordinates weren't released until 2 or 3 days beforehand (on a Friday, I might add), however the trailer was announced almost a month prior (http://hpana.com/news.18563.html). I'm not sure if it was WB that announced that, or whether it was just a leak.
This could mean we won't know till Friday, but also, this was 4 years ago and technology and processes can change easily over this time :)
LordThingy June 23rd, 2010, 7:05 am as long as the HP trailer is at the beginning of Eclipse to make going to that movie worth it, i'll be good :p i'm still excited about the footage from MTV, i'm not craving anything new really at the moment.
nicholasmanning June 23rd, 2010, 7:27 am im torn about weather i want a new trailer or not.......actually the more i think about it i do want an Official cohesive trailer that really lays out the story for us so we know i mean really know how the story has been tranlated to film. Its one thing to read the book but the film will be different and i just want some idea of how it will all play out. So for me personally yes an official trailer with some dialougue would be great and i simply cannot wait untill the 28th. i feel like a kid at Christmas waiting to open my presents!!!
codenameblue June 23rd, 2010, 10:44 am The trailer's out already? :O Do you guys have a link? Please show me!
lcbaseball22 June 23rd, 2010, 10:47 am The trailer's out already? :O Do you guys have a link? Please show me!
For the umpteenth time, no the trailer is not out already :lol: Unless you're referring to the MTV one like that girl on the last page, then...
http://www.traileraddict.com/trailer/harry-potter-and-deathly-hallows-part-i/trailer
codenameblue June 23rd, 2010, 10:59 am Oh, okay. Sorry about that. I just have no idea when it's going to be out, and waiting's hard!
lcbaseball22 June 23rd, 2010, 11:04 am Oh, okay. Sorry about that. I just have no idea when it's going to be out, and waiting's hard!
It'll either debut online June 28th and/or will be attached to Eclipse which comes out on the 30th. So you don't have to wait much longer :)
codenameblue June 23rd, 2010, 11:08 am It'll either debut online June 28th and/or will be attached to Eclipse which comes out on the 30th. So you don't have to wait much longer :)
Perfect, at least getting dragged to watch Eclipse with my mother will have something good out of it :lol:
Jonny7003 June 23rd, 2010, 3:58 pm Trailer has been viewed at Cinema Expo event.
http://www.oclumencia.com.br/2010/06/e-o-melhor-trailer-do-ano-ate-agora-e-novas-cenas-de-reliquias-da-morte-exibidas-na-cinema-expo/
They say it's the best trailer of 2010!
MoodysMagicEye June 23rd, 2010, 4:11 pm Trailer has been viewed at Cinema Expo event.
http://www.oclumencia.com.br/2010/06/e-o-melhor-trailer-do-ano-ate-agora-e-novas-cenas-de-reliquias-da-morte-exibidas-na-cinema-expo/
They say it's the best trailer of 2010!
This part gives some peace of mind in the absence more official comfirmation:
Also confirmed that the new teaser will be shown in theaters along with the movie premiere Eclipse 30th of that month.
lcbaseball22 June 23rd, 2010, 5:10 pm Trailer has been viewed at Cinema Expo event.
http://www.oclumencia.com.br/2010/06/e-o-melhor-trailer-do-ano-ate-agora-e-novas-cenas-de-reliquias-da-morte-exibidas-na-cinema-expo/
They say it's the best trailer of 2010!
Wow, dunno about that...gonna be hard to top the 3rd Inception trailer (it's 1 of the best of the last 10 yrs) but I hope they're right :D
This part gives some peace of mind in the absence more official comfirmation:
And the bit after that...
The trailer will be released online in various formats for download and high resolution on June 28
:tu:
MoodysMagicEye June 23rd, 2010, 5:17 pm And the bit after that...
Yeah:tu:, especially if haven't got the fastest internet, theres nothing worse than having a trailer interrupted by constant buffering.
Fury June 23rd, 2010, 5:19 pm Yeah:tu:, especially if haven't got the fastest internet, theres nothing worse than having a trailer interrupted by constant buffering
Yeah, my internet isn't the fastest. It sometimes buffers videos.
But if what they say is true and this is one of the best trailers ever, I'll be happy! Can't wait to see it! I'll definitely be studying it many many times when it comes out!
katana June 23rd, 2010, 5:26 pm Trailer has been viewed at Cinema Expo event.
http://www.oclumencia.com.br/2010/06/e-o-melhor-trailer-do-ano-ate-agora-e-novas-cenas-de-reliquias-da-morte-exibidas-na-cinema-expo/
They say it's the best trailer of 2010!
Yay!! This is exciting! I can't wait!!
BubbleSnake June 23rd, 2010, 5:33 pm Trailer has been viewed at Cinema Expo event.
http://www.oclumencia.com.br/2010/06/e-o-melhor-trailer-do-ano-ate-agora-e-novas-cenas-de-reliquias-da-morte-exibidas-na-cinema-expo/
They say it's the best trailer of 2010!
I hope this trailer leaks *menacing grin* or we get a detailed description. Actually maybe not, I want to be surprised.
lcbaseball22 June 23rd, 2010, 5:35 pm Yeah, my internet isn't the fastest. It sometimes buffers videos.
But if what they say is true and this is one of the best trailers ever, I'll be happy! Can't wait to see it! I'll definitely be studying it many many times when it comes out!
Far as I'm aware, none of the past Potter trailers have won a Golden Trailer award...perhaps this is Potters' year. But like I said, Inception will be stiff competition...they've pretty much got it in the bag like TDK did 2 yrs ago (http://www.goldentrailer.com/awards.gta9.php)
AccioHP June 23rd, 2010, 5:44 pm I can't wait to see it! I hope we get some info on what people saw in thr trailer.
Jonny7003 June 23rd, 2010, 6:06 pm It's coming online in the early hours of Monday morning in the UK. Looks like i'll be staying up VERY late :D
Fhaps June 23rd, 2010, 6:12 pm Yaaay! Warner Bros. has confirmed it!
The new HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS trailer will be unveiled online this Monday at 4pm PST! #DeathlyHallows
http://twitter.com/HarryPotterFilm/status/16861861883 :D
Wolfsbane76 June 23rd, 2010, 6:15 pm Something also tells me that the whole part of the book about the Gaunts will also not be in the movie. I know it seems like nothing, but wouldn't it be a good thing to see where two horcruxes came from, one of them being a deathly hallows item?
AccioHP June 23rd, 2010, 6:19 pm Glad its officially announced!
BlackCatScott June 23rd, 2010, 6:20 pm It's coming online in the early hours of Monday morning in the UK. Looks like i'll be staying up VERY late :D
Is it not 11pm Monday night?
decarus June 23rd, 2010, 6:21 pm Good news. It has been so much easier since we have known this. I am glad that person slipped up by sending that email and to finally get confirmation that it will be released a few days early.
Do we know what time it will be released?
katana June 23rd, 2010, 6:22 pm Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonny7003 View Post
It's coming online in the early hours of Monday morning in the UK. Looks like i'll be staying up VERY late
Is it not 11pm Monday night?
There's about a 7-8 hour difference between PST and the UK isn't there? So it should be 11pm - midnight.
Do we know what time it will be released?
I think it said 4pm PST.
MoodysMagicEye June 23rd, 2010, 6:29 pm There's about a 7-8 hour difference between PST and the UK isn't there? So it should be 11pm - midnight.
If this is any indication: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/, it will be midnight.
weasley9 June 23rd, 2010, 6:30 pm It still bugs me that they're showing footage from both parts. :shrug:
Fhaps June 23rd, 2010, 6:32 pm I just made this thing (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=28&month=6&year=2010&hour=16&min=0&sec=0&p1=256&sort=1) for my website, and it's suppose to be at midnight in London :tu:
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