Way Ahead for Deathly Hallows Movie(s) v.5

How can Hermione have a Muggle friend who watches a Wizarding sport? That doesn't make a lick of sense.
Yeah, that's really bizarre. I wonder how true this really is :\

Where even is quidditch in DH? Nowhere, right? And where would Hermione have any time to watch it? Very confusing...

Allowing a muggle to watch quidditch? thats against the law if nothing else....

Where even is quidditch in DH? Nowhere, right? And where would Hermione have any time to watch it? Very confusing...

There was no Quidditch in DH; their only opportunity to play would have been at the Burrow and Molly was keeping them so busy with wedding prep that they never had time.

A Muggle who watches Quidditch would violate the International Statute of Secrecy; this report must be inaccurate.

The report's pretty legit, so I think it's just a wrong interpretation (by us or the writer), I think it'll just show them watching sports together, probably something to do with the modificiation of her parents.

Hi,
Anybody else went to watch Eclipse and didn't see the trailer? It didn't play at my theater wednesday, I was so disappointed. Maybe it wasn't here in Canada yet.

^ I didnt go to see it, but more than half my friends who did said the trailer did not play. So weird.

Allowing a muggle to watch quidditch? thats against the law if nothing else....

This seems rather sketchy.

If this is accurate and not a mistelling of the scene and they do show Hermione sharing the Wizarding world with her muggle friend... I could see how perhaps this will be used a couple of ways. 1) As an example of a complaint by the DE/Ministry about to emphasize how Muggleborns threaten the Wizarding world etc etc. Also 2) Show how much Herminone has to lose -all her muggle side of life, parents and friends etc - to go into hiding. 3) it's a nice foreshadow of Snape/Lily and Petunia's story in that Petunia wasn't allowed into the Wizarding world and it created a rift of envy between she and her sister that never healed. IT might emphasize how divided that world can be and Hermione just ignoring those kinds of taboos and separation.(???) Although I really can't see it in her character to do so. So I'm confused.

The report's pretty legit, so I think it's just a wrong interpretation (by us or the writer), I think it'll just show them watching sports together, probably something to do with the modificiation of her parents.

I bet it is this. :)

^ I didnt go to see it, but more than half my friends who did said the trailer did not play. So weird.

You live in the US?

yes, in chicago.

decarus, do enlighten me please.Last question , I promise.:)
What do we know about Dobby?
Will he be reintroduced somehow, or will he just appear at Malfoy´s Mannor ?

I promise after today I will reread the list. :)

It's no problem. It helps me try and put stuff together to talk about it.

Heyman mentioned Dobby once in passing. We really don't know a lot.

Given there has to be cuts in beloved characters such as the house elves, can you tell us if these things will impact the development of movie seven and eight (ie events at Gringotts/Grimmauld place)? DAVID HEYMAN: Inevitably there will be certain things that we will probably have to introduce and emphasize in the Seventh film. Before we read the Seventh book there had been things in the earlier films that we had not realized how important they were. There was an example in the Fifth film when we were considering cutting Kreacher but Jo [Rowling] said to me…'I wouldn’t do that if I were you'…She didn’t tell us why, but she said we would be advised to keep him. And of course in the Seventh book Kreacher is an important character. It has been a while, for example, since we have seen Dobby and I suspect we are going to have to make more of Dobby in Seven than we might have done. I think we have done a pretty good job of what we need in terms of the plot.

The speculation is that he would be at the wedding or maybe help the trio find Mundungus or somehow visit the trio in the forest.

There are multiple photos of Harry looking at the mirror shard and i wonder if it is possible that will be used differently then in the book. I don't know though. That is just me speculating.

I'm confused about the muggle friend watching Quidditch, especially as the article states that Although shooting has ended, fans will have to wait until next year to catch a glimpse of Mel

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1158464/Theo-Walcotts-girl-Melanie-Slade-lands-role-Harry-Potter.html#ixzz0sjk9vtPi
which means that it takes place in part 2 and that doesn't seem to make sense at all because Hermione doesn't go near the muggle world in part 2, unless it's a memory or some sort they've added :hmm:

The Mail is normally legit though so it's either a misunderstanding on their part or the film makers have gone off track :shrug: Of course, it might just end up on the cutting room floor anyway

The report's pretty legit, so I think it's just a wrong interpretation (by us or the writer), I think it'll just show them watching sports together, probably something to do with the modificiation of her parents.

Thats more than possible. I had wondered whether they were confusing quidditch with the 7 Potters scene and the cameo role could be that of a spectator from the ground, but then as Hermione's said to be with them, and if it was the 7 Potters she would be up in the air so :shrug:

which means that it takes place in part 2 and that doesn't seem to make sense at all because Hermione doesn't go near the muggle world in part 2, unless it's a memory or some sort they've added :hmm:

The note is from March 2009

The note is from March 2009

So it is, I didn't look at the date on it.

If this is accurate and not a mistelling of the scene and they do show Hermione sharing the Wizarding world with her muggle friend... I could see how perhaps this will be used a couple of ways. 1) As an example of a complaint by the DE/Ministry about to emphasize how Muggleborns threaten the Wizarding world etc etc. Also 2) Show how much Herminone has to lose -all her muggle side of life, parents and friends etc - to go into hiding. 3) it's a nice foreshadow of Snape/Lily and Petunia's story in that Petunia wasn't allowed into the Wizarding world and it created a rift of envy between she and her sister that never healed. IT might emphasize how divided that world can be and Hermione just ignoring those kinds of taboos and separation.(???) Although I really can't see it in her character to do so. So I'm confused.


How can Hermione have a Muggle friend who watches a Wizarding sport? That doesn't make a lick of sense.

:hmm: This whole thing seems really confusing and unnecessary. :hmm:

:hmm: This whole thing seems really confusing and unnecessary. :hmm:

Especially considering that 1) that would be illegal and 2) Hermione only watches Quidditch when Harry and/or Ron are involved. Otherwise she's not into sports. I really can't see her watching Quidditch for fun with her Muggle friend.

Especially considering that 1) that would be illegal and 2) Hermione only watches Quidditch when Harry and/or Ron are involved. Otherwise she's not into sports. I really can't see her watching Quidditch for fun with her Muggle friend.

Me either. :no:

DAVID HEYMAN: Inevitably there will be certain things that we will probably have to introduce and emphasize in the Seventh film. Before we read the Seventh book there had been things in the earlier films that we had not realized how important they were. There was an example in the Fifth film when we were considering cutting Kreacher but Jo [Rowling] said to me…'I wouldn’t do that if I were you'…She didn’t tell us why, but she said we would be advised to keep him. And of course in the Seventh book Kreacher is an important character. It has been a while, for example, since we have seen Dobby and I suspect we are going to have to make more of Dobby in Seven than we might have done. I think we have done a pretty good job of what we need in terms of the plot.
The speculation is that he would be at the wedding or maybe help the trio find Mundungus or somehow visit the trio in the forest.

There are multiple photos of Harry looking at the mirror shard and i wonder if it is possible that will be used differently then in the book. I don't know though. That is just me speculating.

So Heyman is aware some characters need to be reintroduced. That is good. :)
Thanks for posting that decarus.:)

I bet that mirror will be one of the things used differently in the film, it could follow the line you suggest . One of the little changes I am sure I wont mind.

Thanks:)

BTW, you guys, check this out. They seem to pay alot of attention to the tiny details:

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7664/vlcsnap2010062817h58m35g.png

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3262/vlcsnap2010062817h58m49.png

The wands, I mean, I totally forgot about them both having other wands during the end (Pettigrew's and Bellatrix's). Love how every movie gets more detailed, because the first movies did had some very bad mistakes in it (the camera man in CoS; the green Invisibility Cloak in PS)

i think the bit about Hermoine,s friend watching quiditch is totally FAKE not gonna happen

About Hermione and her muggle friend. It could be something after the war. Perhaps showing sort of union between the Muggle and the Wizarding World..

I now think that the Daily Mail has simply misquoted or something. She must have been in a Half-Blood Prince Quidditch scene that was cut.

Where in the Daily Mail article does it say about a "Muggle" friend ?

see this - http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/quote-week-theo-walcott-64380/

I now think that the Daily Mail has simply misquoted or something. She must have been in a Half-Blood Prince Quidditch scene that was cut.

Where in the Daily Mail article does it say about a "Muggle" friend ?

see this - http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/quote-week-theo-walcott-64380/

When I first read what you guys were discussing I thought about this too. I recall this chick being in a HBP scene with Hermione...

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/08_02/SladeWallcot2MOS_468x379.jpg

http://www.snitchseeker.com/gallery/albums/halfbloodprince/regalhbpcaps/Image159.jpg

I think maybe her part was cut down...originally it sounded like her and Hermione were going to have a brief conversation. And I think "muggle" in this case might just be referring to the fact she was a newcomer and an extra more or less...they were just trying to be clever with the wording I'd say :shrug:

Here we are --

http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/actress-melanie-slade-talks-filming-half-blood-prince-updated-62536/

She's in HBP.

Here we are --

http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/actress-melanie-slade-talks-filming-half-blood-prince-updated-62536/

She's in HBP.

Heh, awesome I was right :p

Yeah, when I first read that I knew it was familiar.

She's listed in the HBP list:

Melanie Slade, who can be seen also in the above shot, talked briefly about her small role in the film:
I was in a scene with Hermione watching a Quidditch game and had a couple of lines to say.

I remember that a lot of articles about HBP incorrectly said DH.

And about the Erik guy, I bet he's a Sofie Opening Boardroom Scene as well :lol:

MuggleNet have posted a high res version of the Deathly Hallows poster, with no HP7 writing on it:

http://www.mugglenet.com/images/dh_poster_high_res.jpg

So Heyman is aware some characters need to be reintroduced. That is good. :)
Thanks for posting that decarus.:)

I bet that mirror will be one of the things used differently in the film, it could follow the line you suggest . One of the little changes I am sure I wont mind.

Thanks:)

No problem. I thought i remembered someone saying something about seeing dobby in the forest or the tent, but i can't find the quote. It might have been someone who ended up being fake. All of the fake people makes things confusing.

MuggleNet have posted a high res version of the Deathly Hallows poster, with no HP7 writing on it:

http://www.mugglenet.com/images/dh_poster_high_res.jpg

Heh, looks to me like all they did was take a screenshot of the one on the WB site and removed the writing in Photoshop :lol:

But if that's really the poster does that mean if we buy it in the stores the colors will look like that and not like that original image we saw?

I sure hope so, the original image wasn't bad (bit too dark and such) but this one has such better color...

I'm sure most (if not all) of you have seen that they've released a new promotional poster for Deathly Hallows, but I've included it below anyways.

My reason of posting this is to ask if anyone has noticed that the largest tower (Gryffindor Tower?) has a cross on top of the spire? This was not any of the previous films and is obviously an inconsistency. Perhaps the building they based the tower on has a cross on it in real life and they forgot to edit it out when assembling the Hogwarts castle...

It may seem trivial, but considering the series steers clear of religion (for obvious reasons), something as significant as a cross on a spire, especially on the castle's most important spire, is a big issue.

Your thoughts...

It's not a cross, It's in the other movies too, I think It's a just like a mini pole/spear with a ball on it. It looks like a cross from that distance. If it were a cross, I honestly don't think anyone would flip over something that small when the movie comes out unless they kinda have problems. If it was a big cross half the size of the tower yeah then I can see it being an issue. Like people said there's other things in the movies too that are kinda "religious" but there's not a big focus on them either, they're just there. It would be really weird if it was a cross tho yes. :P

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100328124204/harrypotter/images/5/58/HogwartsCastle97.jpghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100328125931/harrypotter/images/e/ea/Castleww.jpg


You don't need to worry :)

BTW, you guys, check this out. They seem to pay alot of attention to the tiny details:

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/7664/vlcsnap2010062817h58m35g.png

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3262/vlcsnap2010062817h58m49.png

The wands, I mean, I totally forgot about them both having other wands during the end (Pettigrew's and Bellatrix's). Love how every movie gets more detailed, because the first movies did had some very bad mistakes in it (the camera man in CoS; the green Invisibility Cloak in PS)
WOW! I didn't notice that. That IS Bellatrix's wand! Peter's looks good, since we have not seen it before. It will be weird seeing everyone use different wands.

Harry uses Blackthorn and Draco's
Ron uses Peter's
Hermione uses Bellatrix's
Voldemort uses Dubledore's
Draco uses Narcissa's

That will be neat to see!

I noticed the different wands too how long do you think will be spent explaining the changes in ownership?

I think they will have to explain it to some extent so that we can understand that the elder wands allegiance belongs to Harry.

wow i love the detail they have with the wands! that makes me happy. i totally forgot that hermione was battling in the final battle with a wand that didn't haver her allegiance.

I dunno how you guys tell who's wands are who's haha =/

I dunno how you guys tell who's wands are who's haha =/
The only way I can tell that Hermione has Bellatrix's wand is because Bellatrix's wand is a rather abnormal one. Instead of being mostly straight like the others we have seen it has a definite bend in it. http://www.productsnpith.com/store/media/noble/bwand.jpg

The spikes don't have to be crosses, they could be lightning rods.

Forgive me if this is a repeat - I read as much as I could.

Comparing what I remember of the original trailer (which I believe appeared on an MTV awards show a month or so ago) with the new trailer....

...there is a brief glimpse of Hermione, outside, and she has her hands in the air - pehaps hurredly casting enchantments aboout their campsite after Ron's splinching injury - I could have sworn her hands were quite blood-covered in the older trailer, and that there doesn't seem to be (much) blood in the newer trailer.

Am I going nuts here?

Forgive me if this is a repeat - I read as much as I could.

Comparing what I remember of the original trailer (which I believe appeared on an MTV awards show a month or so ago) with the new trailer....

...there is a brief glimpse of Hermione, outside, and she has her hands in the air - pehaps hurredly casting enchantments aboout their campsite after Ron's splinching injury - I could have sworn her hands were quite blood-covered in the older trailer, and that there doesn't seem to be (much) blood in the newer trailer.

Am I going nuts here?

No your quite right in the Earlier Trailer shown on MTV on june 6th Hermoine,s hands were bloody but the blood had to be edited out for The Official Trailer that appears in movie Theatres so it was suitable for all audiences. I believe the blood will be back on her hands for the actual movie

Oh, I hadn't thought of that - yes, I hope you are correct!

Here is a comparison to the different bloody hands over all the trailers.

From the DH Sneak Peak.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/splinching/dhteaser_bloodyhermione.jpg
From the MTV Teaser

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/splinching/mtvteaser2.png
From the Official Teaser.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/splinching/herhandsoffteaser.png
From the Lego Footage.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/splinching/herhandslegofootage.png

The strangest thing to me is the clear difference in the coloring of the trailers. I think i actually like the coloring the best in the original footage from the DH Sneak Peak. The coloring was still good in the Official Teaser, but the blood was gone and photo shopped poorly in my opinion. The other two are just very dark.

I agree though that the blood will be back.

I love this piece of concept art from the final battle

http://s2.postimage.org/nJjoJ.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsnJjoJ)

In my opinion, the trailer was, in short, amazing.

At first, I thought that they were showing way too much in the first 25 seconds of the trailer; but then, when Voldemort's "Avada Kedavra" is cut off, the moment is so dramatic- people who haven't read the books will not know if Harry lives or dies.

The shots, particularly of the trio walking through the "fields" are stunning and really add to the whole scope of the series and this upcoming film specifically.

I'm glad the trailer emphasises how large the "good" and "evil" sides are, like in the shot of what appears to be students of Hogwarts and their families charging to Hogwarts. Incredibly dramatic.

And, I loved the new lines they gave Harry and Voldemort:
"Why do you live?"
"Because I have something worth living for."

Perhaps this looks quite cheesy when reading it, but I belive that the way the actors performed it was phenomanal, you could really sense the hatred building between the two characters.

I also loved how the trailer had a "slow" beginning, but then lead up to a furious climax, with powerful, truly epic music. This highlights and foreshadows the huge "Battle of Hogwarts" that will take place in the film sometime.

Another scene that stood out for me, was Snape's scene. Yes, it was only about a second long, but you could see the fear in Alan Rickman's (the actor's) eyes and I can only hope that they will put as much detail into Snape's involvement in Deathly Hallows as JK Rowling did.

All in all, I thought it was an amazing trailer which should be a mere shadow of what I hope to be a truly amazing film. As it is in two parts, I'm sure hardly anything from the book will be cut out.

It's a thumbs up from me. :tu:

I love this piece of concept art from the final battle

http://s2.postimage.org/nJjoJ.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsnJjoJ)

Is this real?

I was just thinking what the Deathly Hallows rating would be in the UK. The UK film ratings differ from the US. In the UK, we have U, PG, 12A, 15, 18 and R18. So far HP 1-3 have been PG, while 4-6 have been 12A. Now, due to the reports of Deathly Hallows being the 'darkest yet', what would the rating be?

We've had this report from Matt Lewis about Yates and Kloves including harrowing scenes involving blood, violence and gore. http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/w0002409.html We've seen some scenes in the trailer that feature dead bodies scattered around in the courtyard and getting trampled upon by Death Eaters. We've had interviews with the cast, who say that these films will include more adult themes.

Given that a 15 rating in the UK is equivalent to half-way between PG-13 and R in the US, what do you think DH Part 2 will be ? It's almost certain that Part 1 will get a 12A but with the amount of violence in Part 2 described by Matt, it makes me wonder if Part 2 will get a 15.

Here is the BBFC guideline:

''12A'' certificate:

Discrimination
Discriminatory language or behaviour must not be
endorsed by the work as a whole. Aggressive
discriminatory language or behaviour is unlikely
to be acceptable unless clearly condemned.

Horror
Moderate physical and psychological threat may be
permitted, provided disturbing sequences are not
frequent or sustained.

Imitable behaviour
Dangerous behaviour (for example, hanging, suicide and
self-harming) should not dwell on detail which could be
copied, or appear pain or harm free. Easily accessible
weapons should not be glamorised.

Language
Moderate language is allowed. The use of strong
language (for example, ‘****’) must be infrequent.

Nudity
Nudity is allowed, but in a sexual context must be brief
and discreet.

Sex
Sexual activity may be briefly and discreetly portrayed.
Sex references should not go beyond what is suitable for
young teenagers. Frequent crude references are unlikely
to be acceptable.

Theme
Mature themes are acceptable, but their treatment must
be suitable for young teenagers.

Violence
Moderate violence is allowed but should not dwell on
detail. There should be no emphasis on injuries or blood,
but occasional gory moments may be permitted if
justified by the context.
Sexual violence may only be implied or briefly and
discreetly indicated, and must have a strong contextual
justification.

''15'' certificate:

Discrimination
The work as a whole must not endorse discriminatory
language or behaviour.

Horror
Strong threat and menace are permitted unless sadistic
or sexualised.

Imitable behaviour
Dangerous behaviour (for example, hanging, suicide and
self-harming) should not dwell on detail which could be
copied. Easily accessible weapons should not be glamorised.

Language
There may be frequent use of strong language (for example,
‘****’). The strongest terms (for example, ‘****’) may be
acceptable if justified by the context. Aggressive or repeated
use of the strongest language is unlikely to be acceptable.

Nudity
Nudity may be allowed in a sexual context but without
strong detail. There are no constraints on nudity in a
non-sexual or educational context.

Sex
Sexual activity may be portrayed without strong detail.
There may be strong verbal references to sexual behaviour,
but the strongest references are unlikely to be acceptable
unless justified by context. Works whose primary purpose is
sexual arousal or stimulation are unlikely to be acceptable.

Theme
No theme is prohibited, provided the treatment is
appropriate for 15 year olds.

Violence
Violence may be strong but should not dwell on the infliction
of pain or injury. The strongest gory images are unlikely to
be acceptable. Strong sadistic or sexualised violence is also
unlikely to be acceptable.
There may be detailed verbal references to sexual violence
but any portrayal of sexual violence must be discreet and
have a strong contextual justification.

There is no chance of DH getting a ''R'' in the US, but with the difference between the ratings in the UK, will DH get a 12 or 15?

There will be blood, but very nature of how wizards fight their wars is going is going limit it to a certain degree, compared to a film were they use swords as weaponary.But the trouble is it could only takes one scene to elevate the rating. I tend to use the Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King (a 12A/PG13 rated film) as a comparison when I consider this, you have for example catapulted severed heads, Orc biting the necks of Gondorian Soldeirs and not to mention Shelob in that film. So in conclusion, I they have a fair amount of room to work with. It will be a 12 I think where pretty much guaranteed of that, if it does stray in 15 territory they will pull it back.

Sorry to jump into the thread - but it just occurred to me that they're going to have Nagini waiting in Harry's bedroom in Godric's Hallow. The bright nursery has to be Harry's old room and I am going to speculate that they're going to cut out Bathilda Bagshot all together. I hope I'm wrong, but I just feel like the brightness of the child's room feels like it is a preserved room of where LV tried to kill 'the boy who lived.'

Sorry to jump into the thread - but it just occurred to me that they're going to have Nagini waiting in Harry's bedroom in Godric's Hallow. The bright nursery has to be Harry's old room and I am going to speculate that they're going to cut out Bathilda Bagshot all together. I hope I'm wrong, but I just feel like the brightness of the child's room feels like it is a preserved room of where LV tried to kill 'the boy who lived.'

Well, Bathilda was cast, so she isn't going to be cut out entirely. However, it seems very likely that she will simply bring Harry to his old house instead of her own. There has been speculation based on the trailer that the snake won't come out of her neck (it will instead be waiting for Harry in his bedroom, perhaps like a toy), but I really hope that part of the book remains. It's utterly creepy, horrifying, and awesome at the same time, and would be an amazing visual in the film.

Still, if presented in the same way as the book, would that be too graphic for the film and push the rating up? We know the filmmakers will not allow the movie to be rated R, but I'd hate to see this scene tamed down.

Maybe theyll use a descretion shot? Like you see Bathilda moving oddly and her neck start making odd movements and then it pans to Harry who's looking really shocked and horrified. Behind Harry you see the shadow of whats happening, then it would pan back to Bathilda whos dropping as the snake appears in full form ready to strike. I can see them doing that sort of thing in order to keep the creepy factor down a bit.

Well, Bathilda was cast, so she isn't going to be cut out entirely. However, it seems very likely that she will simply bring Harry to his old house instead of her own. There has been speculation based on the trailer that the snake won't come out of her neck (it will instead be waiting for Harry in his bedroom, perhaps like a toy), but I really hope that part of the book remains. It's utterly creepy, horrifying, and awesome at the same time, and would be an amazing visual in the film.

Still, if presented in the same way as the book, would that be too graphic for the film and push the rating up? We know the filmmakers will not allow the movie to be rated R, but I'd hate to see this scene tamed down.Wow, I think you have it spot on. :tu: I think the snake coming out of Bathilda will move the film into R land, especially with so much battle scenes. So this would be a very good way to work around it.

YEA I CAN SEE that but i have a proplem with them not going to bathilda,s house If harry doesnt go to bathilda,s house he wont see the picture of the Golden haired thief who turns out to be grindewald so it might create a storyline problem

YEA I CAN SEE that but i have a proplem with them not going to bathilda,s house If harry doesnt go to bathilda,s house he wont see the picture of the Golden haired thief who turns out to be grindewald so it might create a storyline problem

if they are not going to Bathilda´s , they will come up with another way of having Harry see the thief and realizing who he is. They do make changes , not that it pleases me, but if this is the case , they will add a way to have Harry see and realize who the thief is .

They could just leave it at Harry sees the thief in Voldemort's mind and then Harry sees the thief in the book.

if they do change it i hope they make it believeable actually i hope they dont change this scene at all but based on the trailer i dont see them keeping this scene cannon which really irks me to no end

I love this piece of concept art from the final battle

http://s2.postimage.org/nJjoJ.jpg (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsnJjoJ)

If this is real, it's beautiful. I question its authenticity, though; the broken side of the Great Hall looks enough like the courtyard from the trailer that it could be fake.

*EDIT: I think its fake. The dead people lying on the ground look exactly like the courtyard from the trailer.

We know bathilda is cast, I hope they do have the snake come out of her in some way.

if they do change it i hope they make it believeable actually i hope they dont change this scene at all but based on the trailer i dont see them keeping this scene cannon which really irks me to no end

I know. I really dont see Harry going inside his house . I believe it would be too hard for Harry to actually get in the house , but that is me , 100% purist, canonist , whatever you wanna call me. All I hope is like you say, that whatever change they make , they make it believable and noticieable. Not rushed that it goes unoticed , or that they add it where it makes no sense at all.

The concept art looks good if it is real.

We know bathilda is cast, I hope they do have the snake come out of her in some way.


Me too. I do hope that they dont change this, it was quite disturbing to read it , I can imagine watching it wont be nice, but I do hope they dont change it.

The concept art looks good if it is real.

It's not real. It was posted my a fake-poster maker on IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0926084/board/nest/166196971

It's not real. It was posted my a fake-poster maker on IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0926084/board/nest/166196971

Oh ok, thanks for clearing that up

Looks like Narcissa is fully blonde again.

What makes you say that?

I was just watching the trailer again and right before Vildemort AKs Harry, Harry opens his eyes. Does he open them in the book? I cant remember

I was just watching the trailer again and right before Vildemort AKs Harry, Harry opens his eyes. Does he open them in the book? I cant remember

That whole scene could have been edited around to fool the audience who sees the trailer. It might not be in order.

I am re reading DH. I just reread the Harry/Ron fight. It might be too soon to say so, but I think I like it better in the film. In the book Hermione casts a protego to keep them from harming each other, in the film, they do get physical . And the dialogue, that line from Ron about Harry having no family, instead of Harry reminding Ron. It feels like a low blow from Ron´s side. I think it works better as it is in the film.
I am amazed , I usually beg for things to stick to the book. This part I am quite glad they have improved it. It promises to be quite a good scene.

That whole scene could have been edited around to fool the audience who sees the trailer. It might not be in order.
Yeah that's what I was wondering. It seems like it could be an edit or something

I am re reading DH. I just reread the Harry/Ron fight. It might be too soon to say so, but I think I like it better in the film. In the book Hermione casts a protego to keep them from harming each other, in the film, they do get physical . And the dialogue, that line from Ron about Harry having no family, instead of Harry reminding Ron. It feels like a low blow from Ron´s side. I think it works better as it is in the film.
I am amazed , I usually beg for things to stick to the book. This part I am quite glad they have improved it. It promises to be quite a good scene.
I'm re reading DH too! Only up to right when Kingsley's patronus warns the wedding. I wonder how they'll do this in the film? Do you think they'll have patronusesntalk or maybe just have Kingsley appear at the party?

I'm re reading DH too! Only up to right when Kingsley's patronus warns the wedding. I wonder how they'll do this in the film? Do you think they'll have patronusesntalk or maybe just have Kingsley appear at the party?

I was reading the list yesterday and I read something like a voice will be heard. I dont recall reading anything about the Patronus actually appearing. But I could be wrong. *goes to read the list*

here from the DH list:
There was a scene where a glowing ball of light states 'The Ministry has fallen':
Quote:
As the dancing reaches its peak, we see first Lupin and then Harry make appearances into the wedding tent, though both are largely ignored by the guests. This is the point when the madness begins. A strange glowing ball of light (Patronus) appears, and from it, a dire warning in a deathly voice 'The Ministry has fallen. Scrimgeour is dead. They are coming.'
The light would be used as a stand in for the patronus which would be added later in post production.

there will be a patronus:)

Yeah that's what I was wondering. It seems like it could be an edit or something


I'm re reading DH too! Only up to right when Kingsley's patronus warns the wedding. I wonder how they'll do this in the film? Do you think they'll have patronusesntalk or maybe just have Kingsley appear at the party?

I am re-reading also. After I read this part I forgot how much I loved it. I didn't expect the whole, Scrimgeour is dead run for your lives thing. Kind just catapults you into "oh ****" mode.

I know that everyone is all excited about the battle, but there is actually quite a bit that i like about the first part of the book.

I think the trailer looks absolutely amazing :D I want them to release another one that shows different scenes haha, but I am just being greedy :lol:

I really love the music for the trailer too, it really adds to the emotion we see in the trailer and makes it that much more exciting. For me, anyway.

I don't think November can come quick enough! But seeing how fast this year has flown, it will be here in no time :D Wow, I'll be 22 when the second part comes out haha!

So can someone refresh my memory and explain to me the part where (is it Yaxley?) is standing on the railway tracks and is stopping the Hogwarts express? What's going on there? I don't remember it :/

I know that everyone is all excited about the battle, but there is actually quite a bit that i like about the first part of the book.
Its a very good book. I like it all. People are so exited about the last battle cause we have been looking forward to it for ages. Watching it on screen has been most anticipated. I however have several parts from the first part that I want to see on screen .
The seven Potters
The Bday kiss, if included.
Kreacher hitting Dung with the pot, and begging Harry for one more just for luck.

I am also wondering if they will show Harry packing his stuff. Throwing aside what he wont need. It was emotional for me in the book , I wonder if they will somehow include this bit.


On a side note.
I must say I am really enjoying rereading now that we have so many images from so many chapters. It´s wonderful to compare. And the scenes are so wonderfully made it makes it really exiting and somehow new.

So can someone refresh my memory and explain to me the part where (is it Yaxley?) is standing on the railway tracks and is stopping the Hogwarts express? What's going on there? I don't remember it :/

We think this is where the death eaters kidnap Luna off of the train. Evenna Lynch mentioned being in a scene in Part 1 with Neville on the Hogwarts Express.

I have no idea where this scene would take place in timeline.

PS. I think i am looking forward to Godric's hollow the most and Ron leaving and Ron coming back, so the Silver Doe scene.

We think this is where the death eaters kidnap Luna off of the train. Evenna Lynch mentioned being in a scene in Part 1 with Neville on the Hogwarts Express.

I have no idea where this scene would take place in timeline.

Oh right I see, cause we don't actually read about Luna getting kidnapped do we? We only find out once she doesn't turn up and the Trio go to her house. Hm, interesting I guess. Gotta let the no-readers know somehow!

Yeah, i think that Luna tells everyone at Shell Cottage how she was kidnapped off the train on the way back from Easter break i think it was.

I guess they are going to show that instead of just mention it in passing. That may not be right because all we know is that there is some sort of attack on the train and we know that Luna and Neville have a scene on the train.

We don't technically know that two are the same thing, but i think that makes sense that they are.

Yeah, i think that Luna tells everyone at Shell Cottage how she was kidnapped off the train on the way back from Easter break i think it was.

I guess they are going to show that instead of just mention it in passing. That may not be right because all we know is that there is some sort of attack on the train and we know that Luna and Neville have a scene on the train.

We don't technically know that two are the same thing, but i think that makes sense that they are.

Yep, I remember now. I think I'm in need of a re-read :D

Are there any parts that you think they won't bother including?

I was reading the list yesterday and I read something like a voice will be heard. I dont recall reading anything about the Patronus actually appearing. But I could be wrong. *goes to read the list*

here from the DH list:


there will be a patronus:)

Oh yea, I remember reading that now, thanks for posting

I'm looking forward to the battle but also the other action parts and the quiet moments. Basically the whole movie! Lol

Yep, I remember now. I think I'm in need of a re-read :D

Are there any parts that you think they won't bother including?

I think there are some things that will be excluded just to make the plot less complicated. Like i think it likely that everyone will just go to the Burrow during the Seven Potters scene instead of to separate houses. They might leave the Ghoul out. They might cut Harry's birthday party. They might cut Lupin visiting the trio at Grimmauld Place.

I think they might cut the painting of Phineas Nigellus and just use the mirror instead and the radio to pass on some of that information.

I think they are going to cut out the trio running into Ted, Dean, Griphook, and the other goblin in the woods. I am not sure how they are going to learn about what has happened with Ginny, Neville, and Luna stealing the sword and all that. I guess they could show it, but that still doesn't explain how the trio learn about it. Unless they simply hear it over the radio.

I worry that Hermione won't hit Ron after he comes back. I always enjoy that part in the book, not only because he so had it coming, but because Hermione actually looses it.

I am afraid they might leave out the McGonagall/Snape duel and the visit to the Ravenclaw common room because neither are necessary even though i like both parts.

I want to see Snape overhear Trelawny give the prophecy to Dumbledore in his memories. I am not even sure if that is in the book. I think it was in an earlier book.

There are some things that we know are slightly different and there are some added scenes of things that were just said in passing like the train one or Hermione modifying her parent's memories.

PS. My book is falling apart.

I agree that that I think some little details might be cut such ad the different safe housesand the ghoul. I feel like they might have harry's birthday vut not a party like in a book. Maybe just a cake or something.

I hope that the lupin at grimmauld place happens. I kinda think that it might. I think they should keep it in so we see lupin again. Afterall he does die in the end so I think they should keep his scene in because he didn't have slot of screentime in the last one.

I also hope mcgonagall/snape duel is in as well.

They could have everyone say Happy Birthday, but i could imagine them not having a big birthday party like in the book. They might feel like it is in some way necessary because of the removal of the tracer. I think they have to explain why Harry didn't just disapparate from Pivate drive to the Burrow. They may not though.

I hope the Mcgonagall/Snape is in as well, but it is one of those things that isn't necessary. I really want to see the two of them duel because we haven't seen much of anything to do with Mcgonagall using her wand in the films. I hope i am wrong about that.

Here is a comparison to the different bloody hands over all the trailers.

From the DH Sneak Peak.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/splinching/dhteaser_bloodyhermione.jpg
From the MTV Teaser

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/splinching/mtvteaser2.png
From the Official Teaser.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/splinching/herhandsoffteaser.png
From the Lego Footage.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/splinching/herhandslegofootage.png

The strangest thing to me is the clear difference in the coloring of the trailers. I think i actually like the coloring the best in the original footage from the DH Sneak Peak. The coloring was still good in the Official Teaser, but the blood was gone and photo shopped poorly in my opinion. The other two are just very dark.

I agree though that the blood will be back.

Here's a better comparison shot...

http://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/potterblood.jpg

source- http://www.slashfilm.com/2010/06/30/hermiones-bloody-hand/


I didn't realize just how bloody her hands actually were when we first saw the sneak peek...they are pretty much covered in blood. As for those other shots you posted up there I think some of them were made to look more like mud (ie the MTV one) as opposed to removing the blood completely...just another censoring trick.

I really hope they leave in the Ravenclaw Common Room scene. I absolutely loved the part were Harry uses crucio on that death eater for spitting in Mcgonagall's face, and I would like to see that in the film. Although, I got to thinking about it last night, and Dame Maggie Smith may not want an actor spitting in her face. But they could always do it with CG or cut away and use fake spit after the cut.

Her hand doesn't even look real in the one without blood. They aren't going to remove the blood. It won't make sense.

I think there are some things that will be excluded just to make the plot less complicated. Like i think it likely that everyone will just go to the Burrow during the Seven Potters scene instead of to separate houses. They might leave the Ghoul out. They might cut Harry's birthday party. They might cut Lupin visiting the trio at Grimmauld Place.

I think they might cut the painting of Phineas Nigellus and just use the mirror instead and the radio to pass on some of that information.

I think they are going to cut out the trio running into Ted, Dean, Griphook, and the other goblin in the woods. I am not sure how they are going to learn about what has happened with Ginny, Neville, and Luna stealing the sword and all that. I guess they could show it, but that still doesn't explain how the trio learn about it. Unless they simply hear it over the radio.

I worry that Hermione won't hit Ron after he comes back. I always enjoy that part in the book, not only because he so had it coming, but because Hermione actually looses it.

I am afraid they might leave out the McGonagall/Snape duel and the visit to the Ravenclaw common room because neither are necessary even though i like both parts.

I want to see Snape overhear Trelawny give the prophecy to Dumbledore in his memories. I am not even sure if that is in the book. I think it was in an earlier book.

There are some things that we know are slightly different and there are some added scenes of things that were just said in passing like the train one or Hermione modifying her parent's memories.

PS. My book is falling apart.

Yeah I agree with you on those ones. As much as I wish they would stick to the original scenes, not cut scenes, and not add completely new ones, I think this movie will be really great.

I'd like to see a snippet from Luna's house where they learn about the Deathly Hallows, but do you think they will still destroy the house?

Her hand doesn't even look real in the one without blood. They aren't going to remove the blood. It won't make sense.

I never suggested they were :lol:

I was just showing just how much blood there is in the original shot and saying that I think the others were altered to look like mud for TV

I want to see Snape overhear Trelawny give the prophecy to Dumbledore in his memories. I am not even sure if that is in the book. I think it was in an earlier book.



IIRC we learn about the prophecy in OotP and Sybill spills the beans to Harry in the HBP about Snape overhearing it. There are no memories of the prophecy in Snape's dying memories although that would be a good idea IMO since the movie audience doesn't know about his involvement.

Yeah I agree with you on those ones. As much as I wish they would stick to the original scenes, not cut scenes, and not add completely new ones, I think this movie will be really great.

I'd like to see a snippet from Luna's house where they learn about the Deathly Hallows, but do you think they will still destroy the house?

I think it is still possible they will blow up the house or the top of the house.

In the photos of Xenophilius it looks like the Erumpent horn is behind him to the left.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/lovegoods/xenophiliuslovegood001-1.jpg
Also they talked about small explosions that they used during filming, but that might just be for spells shot at the house. There are a lot of holes in the outside of the house.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/lovegoods/LL1.jpg
This is from a set report (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/8/12/fan-report-from-harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-new-attack-scene-added-for-movie-more) from a fan.
The Lovegood house set complete with Dirigible plums (bright orange plants) growing outside, is built with a stone base with 'the right side of the house pitted with holes where Death Eater spells had hit (squib explosions)'. The report also states that 'they were prepping the house again for a much bigger version of that fight, apparently. They were adding even more squibs for the new fight.'

They talk about a bigger version of a fight but the squib explosions i think are just for the small pock marks on the outside of the house. The thing is that if they blew off the top of the house that would all be done in post production most likely. I am assuming they are going to extend that set and make the house look more like a castle in post production. I still like the idea of the top of the house getting blown off.

The whole run from Xenophilius/snatcher chase/capture may be all one scene, but i am now a little unsure about that though i still think that makes sense in some ways. Either way i think there will be more to the scene at the Lovegood's house then was in the book.

PS.
I never suggested they were :lol:

I was just showing just how much blood there is in the original shot and saying that I think the others were altered to look like mud for TV

I know you weren't lcbaseball. Just whenever i see the screencap with no blood i just think fake. Fake. Fake.

I think it is still possible they will blow up the house or the top of the house.

In the photos of Xenophilius it looks like the Erumpent horn is behind him to the left.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/lovegoods/xenophiliuslovegood001-1.jpg
Also they talked about small explosions that they used during filming, but that might just be for spells shot at the house. There are a lot of holes in the outside of the house.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/lovegoods/LL1.jpg
This is from a set report (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/8/12/fan-report-from-harry-potter-and-the-deathly-hallows-new-attack-scene-added-for-movie-more) from a fan.


They talk about a bigger version of a fight but the squib explosions i think are just for the small pock marks on the outside of the house. The thing is that if they blew off the top of the house that would all be done in post production most likely. I am assuming they are going to extend that set and make the house look more like a castle in post production. I still like the idea of the top of the house getting blown off.

The whole run from Xenophilius/snatcher chase/capture may be all one scene, but i am now a little unsure about that though i still think that makes sense in some ways. Either way i think there will be more to the scene at the Lovegood's house then was in the book.

PS.


I know you weren't lcbaseball. Just whenever i see the screencap with no blood i just think fake. Fake. Fake.

Ah cool, thanks for posting that!! The house looks so cool, and for some reason I thought the Erumpet Horn was a lot smaller!

Yeah i thought the Erumpent horn was a lot smaller in the book too. I think they made it bigger. I just think that is what that is because what else could it be.

PS. I hope we get a nice big blow off the top of the house. Especially if this is the climax of the film which we don't know yet.

I hope that the lupin at grimmauld place happens. I kinda think that it might. I think they should keep it in so we see lupin again. Afterall he does die in the end so I think they should keep his scene in because he didn't have slot of screentime in the last one.
I think it will, too, based on what he said to Harry when they were in the sitting room at the Burrow...

"If we start fighting amongst ourselves, we're doomed."

I took that as foreshadowing to their fight at Grimmauld Place.

Yeah i thought the Erumpent horn was a lot smaller in the book too. I think they made it bigger. I just think that is what that is because what else could it be.

PS. I hope we get a nice big blow off the top of the house. Especially if this is the climax of the film which we don't know yet.

Yeah exactly, and it looks like a horn and I don't remember anything else being described that would have looked like that.

Yeah I hope we get a nice big explosion too, that would be really cool to see. But Xenophilius doesn't look as crazy as the book describes him.

No Xenophilius doesn't look as crazy. Maybe he will be a little more quirky when he is in character. I think these shots are between takes.

No Xenophilius doesn't look as crazy. Maybe he will be a little more quirky when he is in character. I think these shots are between takes.

Yeah he looks way to relaxed, lol.

I don't think they will keep Hermione modifying her parents memories in the movie, it was kind of a random thing, I guess. Maybe they will say it but not show it, just show people know that her parents are ok or something.

But I want to know why, when Harry and Voldemort are duelling at the end of the trailer, why they aren't in the great hall and surrounded by everyone! Does this mean we won't see all the other action that goes on then?

To me, the character of Xenophilius Lovegood has always come across as someone who's eccentric with these far-out, outlandish views as opposed to someone who's crazy. He kinda reminds me of Spicolli with the way he looks.

Yeah he looks way to relaxed, lol.

I don't think they will keep Hermione modifying her parents memories in the movie, it was kind of a random thing, I guess. Maybe they will say it but not show it, just show people know that her parents are ok or something.

But I want to know why, when Harry and Voldemort are duelling at the end of the trailer, why they aren't in the great hall and surrounded by everyone! Does this mean we won't see all the other action that goes on then?

They are keeping hermione modifying her parents. We got a picture of her from the calendar in her room, and there's also the point in the trailer of her walking alone. Thats either her going to modify her parents memories or her leavin to. Her parents were cast as well

They are keeping hermione modifying her parents. We got a picture of her from the calendar in her room, and there's also the point in the trailer of her walking alone. Thats either her going to modify her parents memories or her leavin to. Her parents were cast as well

Oh, good! I am glad they are including it :)

Yeah he looks way to relaxed, lol.

I don't think they will keep Hermione modifying her parents memories in the movie, it was kind of a random thing, I guess. Maybe they will say it but not show it, just show people know that her parents are ok or something.

Well they filmed Hermione modifying her parents memories and leaving home. We will see if it gets cut or not from the final version.

But I want to know why, when Harry and Voldemort are duelling at the end of the trailer, why they aren't in the great hall and surrounded by everyone! Does this mean we won't see all the other action that goes on then?

They may cut back and forth between the action and the duel. We know that they filmed Bellatrix get killed. I guess they decided to have the duel in the courtyard. I am assuming there will be more of it then this. It is still possible that they could move to the great hall later. I don't think i really believe that though.

I also really liked everyone watching the duel in the book. Maybe they are to the right out of shot.

PS. Welcome Pensieve_Seeker.

They may cut back and forth between the action and the duel. We know that they filmed Bellatrix get killed. I guess they decided to have the duel in the courtyard. I am assuming there will be more of it then this. It is still possible that they could move to the great hall later. I don't think i really believe that though.

I also really liked everyone watching the duel in the book. Maybe they are to the right out of shot.

Yeah that is a possibility! But that's another thing I was wondering, in the trailer when Voldemort is holding Harry's face, what part is that!?

Yeah, the part where Voldemort is holding his face looks like an added scene. I think it has to be after Harry's 'death' because it is light out, but before the duel. I have no idea why Harry looks to be wrapped up in black cloth. I also have no idea how Harry gets out of that situation alive. Maybe Voldemort lets him go because he wants to duel sort of like he did in GoF or maybe someone does come to Harry's rescue. I really have no idea more then that.

I am not even sure where they are. Hogwarts, but no idea more specifically.

Here is a comparison to the different bloody hands over all the trailers.

From the DH Sneak Peak.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/splinching/dhteaser_bloodyhermione.jpg
From the MTV Teaser

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/splinching/mtvteaser2.png
From the Official Teaser.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/splinching/herhandsoffteaser.png
From the Lego Footage.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/splinching/herhandslegofootage.png

The strangest thing to me is the clear difference in the coloring of the trailers. I think i actually like the coloring the best in the original footage from the DH Sneak Peak. The coloring was still good in the Official Teaser, but the blood was gone and photo shopped poorly in my opinion. The other two are just very dark.

I agree though that the blood will be back.

We can't forget that trailers have to be approved for all audiences, while DH will most likely get a PG-13 rating. So whereas they have a little more wiggle-room in the movie itself the trailers are supposed to be shown to audiences of all ages. So, yeah, I agree with you that in the movie itself the blood will be back.

Yeah, the part where Voldemort is holding his face looks like an added scene. I think it has to be after Harry's 'death' because it is light out, but before the duel. I have no idea why Harry looks to be wrapped up in black cloth. I also have no idea how Harry gets out of that situation alive. Maybe Voldemort lets him go because he wants to duel sort of like he did in GoF or maybe someone does come to Harry's rescue. I really have no idea more then that.

I am not even sure where they are. Hogwarts, but no idea more specifically.

Yeah it is really strange hey. It almost looks like they are standing on that platform in Dumbledores office or somewhere similar. I didn't notice Harry wrapped in the black cloth thing, I'll have to have another look.

But it is very weird.

I think the portrait of Phineas will be kept... because snape still has to figure out the trio's location to cast the Silver Doe. they couldn't do that with mirrors/radio.

I think the portrait of Phineas will be kept... because snape still has to figure out the trio's location to cast the Silver Doe. they couldn't do that with mirrors/radio.

They could do it with the mirror and with Dobby.

Yeah it is really strange hey. It almost looks like they are standing on that platform in Dumbledores office or somewhere similar.

It does look like either Dumbledore's office or the clock tower or something like that. It might be this boat house that everyone keeps talking about. I don't know.

It does look like either Dumbledore's office or the clock tower or something like that. It might be this boat house that everyone keeps talking about. I don't know.

Hm boat house .. I haven't heard anything about it before, whats it meant to be about? And if it was the boat house, what would Harry and Voldemort be doing all the way down there?

Hm boat house .. I haven't heard anything about it before, whats it meant to be about? And if it was the boat house, what would Harry and Voldemort be doing all the way down there?

It is rumored that Snape will get killed in the boat house. It is a rumor though.

It doesn't really make sense for Harry to be there after his death, but i don't think the scene makes sense at all at this point. It might in context. I think it makes more sense for them to be where Snape died then to be in Dumbledore's office or the clock tower.

It is rumored that Snape will get killed in the boat house. It is a rumor though.

It doesn't really make sense for Harry to be there after his death, but i don't think the scene makes sense at all at this point. It might in context. I think it makes more sense for them to be where Snape died then to be in Dumbledore's office or the clock tower.

Yeah good point. But why the boat house, if it true? Why change it from the shrieking shack? That's a bit weird. I can't really think of any other part in the book where this would fit in? It's so confusing, maybe we will find out more when it gets closer to being released.

Yeah good point. But why the boat house, if it true? Why change it from the shrieking shack? That's a bit weird. I can't really think of any other part in the book where this would fit in? It's so confusing, maybe we will find out more when it gets closer to being released.

I have no idea why they would change it. They may think that the shrieking shack is too complicated of a set. They may want to keep Hogwarts in sight while Snape is getting killed. I don't really know.

If that shot of Snape in the trailer is from his death then that doesn't look like the shrieking shack to me.

I have no idea why they would change it. They may think that the shrieking shack is too complicated of a set. They may want to keep Hogwarts in sight while Snape is getting killed. I don't really know.

If that shot of Snape in the trailer is from his death then that doesn't look like the shrieking shack to me.

No that's what I thought as well. It's so confusing at the moment. I guess they are trying to make it look really good by only showing snippets of scenes so we can't really get an idea of what they have done or how they have chosen to act the scenes out.

Yeah well and they only showed large portions and dialogue from Part 2. I want to see some Part 1 stuff. It seems a little early for us to be getting a shot from Snape's death.

It is true though by the end of it we won't have seen most of the film. Though right now it seems like we have seen large portions of key end of the film scenes. I think even in that there is more to see.

I think there are some things that will be excluded just to make the plot less complicated. Like i think it likely that everyone will just go to the Burrow during the Seven Potters scene instead of to separate houses. They might leave the Ghoul out. They might cut Harry's birthday party. They might cut Lupin visiting the trio at Grimmauld Place.

I think they might cut the painting of Phineas Nigellus and just use the mirror instead and the radio to pass on some of that information.

These are likely. Cutting the safehouses to just the Burrow eliminates unwanted running time. Likewise with the Ghoul sequence; a quick line of dialogue can establish the story for why Ron can't return to Hogwarts. Harry's birthday party will probably be kept because he comes of age, and Scrimgeour arrives to discuss Dumbledore's will. Lupin visiting the trio would be good for Lupin's screentime to add to his death, but could still end up getting cut.

I think they will use something else in place of Phineas Nigellus, just because they haven't included him yet.


I think they are going to cut out the trio running into Ted, Dean, Griphook, and the other goblin in the woods. I am not sure how they are going to learn about what has happened with Ginny, Neville, and Luna stealing the sword and all that. I guess they could show it, but that still doesn't explain how the trio learn about it. Unless they simply hear it over the radio.

I worry that Hermione won't hit Ron after he comes back. I always enjoy that part in the book, not only because he so had it coming, but because Hermione actually looses it.

I think the best solution for the sword theft is Potterwatch; there's not really any other way for the Trio to get reliable information about life inside Hogwarts.

I love that part too; Movie Hermione isn't as emotional as Book Hermione but I hope they keep some reaction like that. Ron's tail-between-his-legs attitude is great and Rupert could probably pull it off well.

I am afraid they might leave out the McGonagall/Snape duel and the visit to the Ravenclaw common room because neither are necessary even though i like both parts.

I want to see Snape overhear Trelawny give the prophecy to Dumbledore in his memories. I am not even sure if that is in the book. I think it was in an earlier book.

There are some things that we know are slightly different and there are some added scenes of things that were just said in passing like the train one or Hermione modifying her parent's memories.

I really want McGonagall to get her moment, either in this duel or the stampede of desks.

As for Ravenclaw Tower, I theorized on an earlier page that Harry would figure out the diadem from paintings of the Founders, which is likely why such paintings were added to the queue for WWOHP. If they follow that line, Ravenclaw Tower and the M/S duel wouldn't be needed anymore.

I'd love to see The Seer Overheard from HBP happen in TPT too; it would add a hugely emotional weight to the "Anything" memory. I remember they said the seventh book influenced how the sixth film was written; I hope they saw the potential in this and cut it from HBP so they could add it to TPT in DH.

I don't know how they can add a scene of Luna getting kidnapped without breaking the tension of her absence at Xeno's.

PS. My book is falling apart.

Mine too. Paperback is the way to go :D

I have no idea why they would change it. They may think that the shrieking shack is too complicated of a set. They may want to keep Hogwarts in sight while Snape is getting killed. I don't really know.

If that shot of Snape in the trailer is from his death then that doesn't look like the shrieking shack to me.

If Snape dies in the Headmaster's office, it would cut down the running time while keeping the action centered on Hogwarts; leaving the battle for the Shrieking Shack cuts the tension.

How would they use dobby? Dobby wouldn't tell Snape where Harry was, there's no way dobby would do that, and as far as the wizarding world is concerned, snape is a death eater who murdered dumbledore so I don't see why Harry could talk to Dobby and then have dobby go off and tell snape. it doesn't make any sense.

and they could learn about Ginny, Luna and Neville with Phineas. they question him about it in the book.

How would they use dobby? Dobby wouldn't tell Snape where Harry was, there's no way dobby would do that, and as far as the wizarding world is concerned, snape is a death eater who murdered dumbledore so I don't see why Harry could talk to Dobby and then have dobby go off and tell snape. it doesn't make any sense.

and they could learn about Ginny, Luna and Neville with Phineas. they question him about it in the book.

Well if they could hear things through the mirror then Dobby could be the go between instead of Phineas. The go between with the mirror and Dumbledore's painting. I wonder if they are going to having any of the estrangement between Albus and Aberforth or if he will just tell Harry about what happened to their sister and not that it caused an estrangement.

It seems a lot less complicated to me for Dobby to be Dumbledore's agent in these cases. This is of course just wild speculation on my part and is not based in any real knowledge.

I also have the crazy idea in my head that Dobby may speak to the trio in the forest on the day that Ron leaves.

I found this 3 screencaps on Snape from the trailer. It look like the camera is zooming toward Snape...like when Mr weasly been attack by Nagini in OoTP.... Also the fear & helplessness in Rickman face make me feel confident that this is Snape's death scene....

PS: I do belief that Snape death did happend at the Boat house but still cannot figue out how the sequent going to be......



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I would say as others have said that this is Snapes death scene that it has been rumored has been moved to the Hogwarts boat house. This might explain why the boathouse has been changed for Deathly Hallows.

I found this 3 screencaps on Snape from the trailer. It look like the camera is zooming toward Snape...like when Mr weasly been attack by Nagini in OoTP.... Also the fear & helplessness in Rickman face make me feel confident that this is Snape's death scene....

PS: I do belief that Snape death did happend at the Boat house but still cannot figue out how the sequent going to be......


Could this scene maybe be the 'Sacking of Severus Snape'? It looks like he's still in Hogwarts (stone walls, lead windows, etc..), he could be recoiling from the other teachers and in the next shot may bolt out of the window behind him.

I was just on SnitchSeeker and the main image on the first page was this:

http://i50.tinypic.com/2hnot3b.jpg

I don't remember this screenshot from any of the sneak peeks or trailers we have had so far.
Did I just miss it and did it go by way too fast, or was this from somewhere else?

Thats in the trailer at 1:41

I was just on SnitchSeeker and the main image on the first page was this:

http://i50.tinypic.com/2hnot3b.jpg

I don't remember this screenshot from any of the sneak peeks or trailers we have had so far.
Did I just miss it and did it go by way too fast, or was this from somewhere else?

It was in the most recent trailer. I'm not sure when, but I do remember the dragon flying off like that.

I was just on SnitchSeeker and the main image on the first page was this:

http://i50.tinypic.com/2hnot3b.jpg

I don't remember this screenshot from any of the sneak peeks or trailers we have had so far.
Did I just miss it and did it go by way too fast, or was this from somewhere else?
The screencaps are HERE (http://www.snitchseeker.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=1654&page=7). That's the Gringotts dragon escaping and flying off the roof.

The screencaps are HERE (http://www.snitchseeker.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=1654&page=7). That's the Gringotts dragon escaping and flying off the roof.

Amazing! Thank you!

This (http://www.snitchseeker.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=84986&fullsize=1) is probably my favorite screencap of the trailer. Right after the kiss, the pull-away and you can see the subtle lingering emotion...you can see that Ginny's nose is red and her eyes are puffy so she has been crying...This is going to be a very emotional scene IMHO...I think this is going to be right before Harry goes to "die" in the forest as he is wearing the same outfit.

-JR

This is probably my favorite screencap of the trailer. Right after the kiss, the pull-away and you can see the subtle lingering emotion...you can see that Ginny's nose is red and her eyes are puffy so she has been crying...This is going to be a very emotional scene IMHO...I think this is going to be

So.. Ginny knows that Harry goes to die? :hmm:

So.. Ginny knows that Harry goes to die? :hmm:
She could just be worried for what might happen.

The screencaps are HERE. That's the Gringotts dragon escaping and flying off the roof.

Thankyou :D
Shows how much I missed in the trailer. I haven't looked at the screencaps. I've only seen the trailer twice, and I'm trying to avoid seeing the trailers again. This is my last new bit of Harry Potter, I want it to feel new when I see it.

This is my last new bit of Harry Potter, I want it to feel new when I see it.

I'm thinking the same way! I probably won't watch them again. I think I've had enough of it to last until november, :lol:

Liked the new trailer -- showed quite a lot of part 2 though dont you think? and not enough of part 1.
I was happy when I heard that this was going to be split - but I think the wait between part 1 and part 2 will kill me. November until July? It's like the half blood prince delay all over again! :(

I sure hope they dont add in any scenes like they did with half blood prince - theres so much that goes on in Deathly Hallows that they shouldn't really need to add any new scenes in.

Im very excited for the movie! Cannot Wait

Thankyou :D
Shows how much I missed in the trailer. I haven't looked at the screencaps. I've only seen the trailer twice, and I'm trying to avoid seeing the trailers again. This is my last new bit of Harry Potter, I want it to feel new when I see it.

Then you probably shouldn't read this thread anymore! :lol:

I sure hope they dont add in any scenes like they did with half blood prince - theres so much that goes on in Deathly Hallows that they shouldn't really need to add any new scenes in.

But it's an adaptation. If they need to add in scenes then they will. It's only for cinematic purposes and to help the plot and flow of the film. Should they need to add scenes to create a better visual for the audience then that is necessary. I enjoy having new scenes - the more Potter the better.

^ Agreed. And since they kinda took out the wrong stuff in past movies, they'll probably need to add scenes to explain some things.

But it's an adaptation. If they need to add in scenes then they will. It's only for cinematic purposes and to help the plot and flow of the film. Should they need to add scenes to create a better visual for the audience then that is necessary. I enjoy having new scenes - the more Potter the better.

I understand what you mean, but they've taken out so much stuff from the past movies, really important stuff - they took out quite a lot of stuff from Half Blood Prince that was important.. and they added that Burrow scene, and I just don't understand the point, they demonstrated the death eaters affect on the world at the beginning by breaking the bridge.

I suppose they'll have to add a few new scenes in DH anyway, to explain all the stuff about the cup and the diadem for example.

I was happy when I heard that this was going to be split - but I think the wait between part 1 and part 2 will kill me. November until July? It's like the half blood prince delay all over again! :(

Well, if you see it again in, let's say, February or March then you won't have as long of a wait.

I understand what you mean, but they've taken out so much stuff from the past movies, really important stuff - they took out quite a lot of stuff from Half Blood Prince that was important.. and they added that Burrow scene, and I just don't understand the point, they demonstrated the death eaters affect on the world at the beginning by breaking the bridge.

I suppose they'll have to add a few new scenes in DH anyway, to explain all the stuff about the cup and the diadem for example.

I think they will add a few new scenes, some to reintroduce Dobby, one to extend the scene where the trio is captured. They might perhaps also add some parts of scenes to provide some more insight into other major teen characters than the trio.

They will need to add some elements to show how the trio figure out what the different Horcruxes are. It's a more cinematic approach to show these things as a part of the search for the Horcruxes instead of essentially repeating the same kind of memory scene many times in Half Blood Prince and bogging that film down with exposition.

I don't think people should expect that they will actually explain a lot of things. Some things will only be understood visually, other facts will be included if they're vital to the film and/or can be dramatized in a satisfying way.

Amazing! Thank you!

This (http://www.snitchseeker.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=84986&fullsize=1) is probably my favorite screencap of the trailer. Right after the kiss, the pull-away and you can see the subtle lingering emotion...you can see that Ginny's nose is red and her eyes are puffy so she has been crying...This is going to be a very emotional scene IMHO...I think this is going to be right before Harry goes to "die" in the forest as he is wearing the same outfit.

-JR

Thank you for highlighting this cap and it's assumed significance. I agree that this scene is going to be incredibly emotional. However, I really don't think that in this scene takes place before Harry goes to die. Judging by Harry's clean appearance, the battle has just begun. He has no scratches, no black eyes, no sweat. When he enters the forest, he is battle-worn. So i think this kiss happens at the beginning of the battle, but who knows :p

Thank you for highlighting this cap and it's assumed significance. I agree that this scene is going to be incredibly emotional. However, I really don't think that in this scene takes place before Harry goes to die. Judging by Harry's clean appearance, the battle has just begun. He has no scratches, no black eyes, no sweat. When he enters the forest, he is battle-worn. So i think this kiss happens at the beginning of the battle, but who knows

I think so too, everyone is running to fight it seems.

Do you people think they will include the Bday kiss?
in an interview I read in the DH list, Dan comments on one kiss. This one maybe. I was hoping to get more than one kiss, three at least. One bday kiss, this one and one glorious after battle kiss.

What are you guys hoping to see with the credits? The later HP movies usually have a creative way of showing the credits.

I personally hope that the credits at the end of DH2 will show flashes of all the characters through all 7 films. It would be very fitting, I think.

A couple interviews from Warwick Davis and Bonnie Wright about DH:

Warwick Davis:
http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/video-warwick-davis-favorite-moment-deathly-hallows-74340/

Bonnie Wright:
http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/video-bonnie-wright-talks-deathly-hallows-epilogue-74341/

I love the Warwick Davis interview, especially him talking about when Voldemort announces Harry is dead.

Thanks for those nice interviews.

I personally hope that the credits at the end of DH2 will show flashes of all the characters through all 7 films. It would be very fitting, I think.

I was hoping for something like this too. That would be awesome!

So.. Ginny knows that Harry goes to die? :hmm:

She could have been crying because Fred died already...

I love the idea of the credits showing each character from each movie.

I don't think Fred is dead in that pic yet. I think they are evacuating all the younger students (hence the background there are people running around) and the battle is going to start soon. They may have had a now or never moment like Ron and Hermione?? And I was hoping that they'd keep the birthday kiss in...

Thanks for posting those interviews. :tu:
I like how Bonnie talks about Ginny.:)
It gets me even more exited about the film to hear Warwick Davis tell about that moment in the film. It sounds it will be a most emotional moment.

November, hurry up please!

What exactly are we going to see from DH during the HP Weekend on ABC Family this weekend? I read that there will be interviews. Is it just BTS stuff or will we see actual clips?

They will show us bits of the trio running in the forest again. All new never before seen footage from Deathly Hallows.

never before seen? i understood that it was just the trailer.

never before seen? i understood that it was just the trailer.

Sorry i was being sarcastic. They like to say never before seen footage and it always ends up being really old seen a lot of times footage.

I like behind the scenes stuff though and interviews. So if it is a little bit of that then it sounds good to me.

I'm assuming they will just be the same type of sneak peak we got for all the previous films. There will be about five of them and they will each focus on a different part of the film(s). They will air one at a time throughout the HP weekend and will combine on set interviews with shots from the films.

That sounds good. I wonder if it will continue to be stuff from both parts.

i would assume that yes it will continue to be from both parts

This is what ABC Family had listed for this upcoming Harry Potter weekend....

As every Harry Potter fan knows, the wait is almost over for the eagerly anticipated Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows! Part 1 will be in theaters November 19, 2010 and Part 2 will make its arrival on July 15, 2011. Can’t wait that long? Then tune into ABC Family in July for an awesome sneak peek!

We’re having a special Harry Potter weekend July 8-11 that you don’t want to miss. You’ll be able to see Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone, Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, and Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix all in one weekend – so get that popcorn ready!

And if that isn’t exciting enough, we’re going to be airing never-before-seen interviews with your favorite cast members. Plus, we have actual footage of Harry’s epic final showdown with Voldemort! You definitely can’t miss this weekend of magic!



Hopefully it'll be something new!!!

Ugh, footage of the final showdown?? Come on, WB. :lol: There's so much stuff you can show us! I really don't want to see the final showdown yet...we've seen more than enough in the trailer. I don't like the sound of this. :shrug: I personally think WB is jumping the gun with the marketing. I mean why not show us scenes from the Prince's Tale and Kings Cross while they're at it? :lol:

I mean why not show us scenes from the Prince's Tale and Kings Cross while there at it?

:lol: WB probably will show this, albeit only as short snippets :p

LOL shhhh or WB will hear you and then we will see scenes from the Prince,s Tale

But this movie is a year away. By the time it comes out, we'll all have seen these clips so many times it'll be old and general audiences will be expecting these scenes in DH1 and be disappointed it's not there so won't be as excited for DH2 when most of them will have forgotten this trailer and clips anyway so...it doesn't make sense.

I really hope it isnt new footage from the final showdown. Show us some footage from part 1 already!!!

I really hope it isnt new footage from the final showdown. Show us some footage from part 1 already!!!

Yeah, I agree. It's about time they started hyping the movie that's actually coming out fairly SOON. :lol: What are they going to do in the time period in-between part 1 and part 2, I wonder...They have already showed us so much of part 2 that a exclusive full trailer for part 2 will pretty much give the whole movie away. :lol:

And if that isn’t exciting enough, we’re going to be airing never-before-seen interviews with your favorite cast members. Plus, we have actual footage of Harry’s epic final showdown with Voldemort! You definitely can’t miss this weekend of magic!



Am I the ONLY one who is interpreting this as that ABC Family is referring to The Deathly Hallows films as the LAST time that Harry will be going up against Voldemort? Not the showdown at the end specifically, but that this is the last time he's going against voldemort. Am I the only one who's interpreting it this way? Because after reading that the only thing Im expecting is new Deathly Hallows footage altogether, not necessarily from the final showdown at the end. The way I see it, ABC Family is saying that this is the FINAL story of Harry's struggle with Voldemort, but hey maybe WB will just go ahead and let ABC Family show the whole duel and the ending of the film...No.

Am I the ONLY one who is interpreting this as that ABC Family is referring to The Deathly Hallows films as the LAST time that Harry will be going up against Voldemort? Not the showdown at the end specifically, but that this is the last time he's going against voldemort. Am I the only one who's interpreting it this way? Because after reading that the only thing Im expecting is new Deathly Hallows footage altogether, not necessarily from the final showdown at the end. The way I see it, ABC Family is saying that this is the FINAL story of Harry's struggle with Voldemort, but hey maybe WB will just go ahead and let ABC Family show the whole duel and the ending of the film...No.

Thatwhat I think they mean

It can't mean that at all, IMO. Note how they worded it.

ACTUAL footage from the Harry/Voldemort showdown. It's pretty clear they mean the final duel itself.

If they meant the films as a whole, it'd probably read something like, footage from Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, the final showdown between Harry and Voldemort!

It can't mean that at all, IMO. Note how they worded it.

ACTUAL footage from the Harry/Voldemort showdown. It's pretty clear they mean the final duel itself.

If they meant the films as a whole, it'd probably read something like, footage from Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, the final showdown between Harry and Voldemort!

"Plus, we have actual footage of Harry’s epic final showdown with Voldemort!"
From a series perspective Deathly Hallows is Harry’s epic final showdown with Voldemort.
So what they're really saying is "Plus, we have actual footage of the Deathly Hallows."

Wow, WB, that's wayyyyyy too aggressive of a marketing campaign. That's not positive advertisement, in fact, it's giving more incentive to not go see the film. They're setting themselves up for failure, IMO. And by extension, there goes a lot of hope for any lasting awards and achievements for DH :(

I'm pretty sure the ABC family statement intended to indeed confirm the actual footage from the duel. I seriously seriously hope not :argh:

Wow, WB, that's wayyyyyy too aggressive of a marketing campaign. That's not positive advertisement, in fact, it's giving more incentive to not go see the film. They're setting themselves up for failure, IMO. And by extension, there goes a lot of hope for any lasting awards and achievements for DH :(

I'm pretty sure the ABC family statement intended to indeed confirm the actual footage from the duel. I seriously seriously hope not :argh:

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it means actual footage from the duel. It's not like this is the first time we've ever seen footage from DH so they wouldn't be hyping that up.

I am kinda disappointed and annoyed by WB's marketing. I showed my mom the poster and she was like, "Oh, wow there's no more school!? Hogwarts is destroyed now?" and I have to keep saying, "That's not until part 2...the movie AFTER the next one....that won't be out for another year so...don't get too excited..." It's just so annoying. :lol:

Wow, WB, that's wayyyyyy too aggressive of a marketing campaign. That's not positive advertisement, in fact, it's giving more incentive to not go see the film. They're setting themselves up for failure, IMO. And by extension, there goes a lot of hope for any lasting awards and achievements for DH :(

I'm pretty sure the ABC family statement intended to indeed confirm the actual footage from the duel. I seriously seriously hope not :argh:
Agreed. Maybe the people who set up the marketing this time around... didn't think ahead there in terms of that. Since there are people who don't want to see something that far into the movie this early... before even seeing the first part of it.

That would just ruin it for a lot of people :sigh:. We like to be surprised.

Unless... just a thought here -- maybe they want to see how people react to it... in case they have to make any last minute adjustments to it or something :hmm:...

ARRRRRRGH! Please dont show the final duel. I want to wait for that. Stupid Warner Bros.

I don't think they would show the final duel, that's probably the most anticipated scene in the movie for some people, I think they would want to keep it a secret!

I don't think they would show the final duel, that's probably the most anticipated scene in the movie for some people, I think they would want to keep it a secret!

The problem is, they already showed us a bit of it. :grumble: And it wasn't just like a quick flash. It was about 30 seconds of the scene AND the whole scene where Voldemort kills Harry...Hopefully these scenes are 100% different in a year with the music and final cutting.

I think the marketing is absolutely fine. I have no problems with it whatsoever.

The problem is, they already showed us a bit of it. :grumble: And it wasn't just like a quick flash. It was about 30 seconds of the scene AND the whole scene where Voldemort kills Harry...Hopefully these scenes are 100% different in a year with the music and final cutting.

Yeah I am quite annoyed that they showed that much of it at all! It should have been less to give us something more to look forward too!

Hopefully the scenes will drag out a bit more.

I dont have problems with it either. However , I do wish they would show more of the first part. Watching all those great scenes from the second part and knowing they are still so far away from being watched is not cool, they do get me exited about how great it will be.
But I would not mind watching some footage from part one.
Ministry scenes, the seven potters, Godric´s Hollow.
Just having Umbridge on a bit would create expectation, even muggles know who she was and hate her as well, so showing a bit of her would be cool.
Also having Dobby refreshened would be nice. It would help people remember who he was.

I'm pretty sure they will not show footage from de final duel on ABC. I'm sure they tried to say "Deathly Hallows" with that "final showdown" thing :lol:

They refer to it as actual footage because they were talking about interviews, so they wanted to make it clear that they will have scenes from the movie and not just BTS footage :tu:

im excited for new footage!!! i dont care if it is from part 2

I still think they mean from DH overall

Bit late, but my thoughts on the trailer -

I loved it for the most part. It gives the impression of intensity and builds up the anticipation. It made my dad finally decide to listen to the DH audio book because he decided he can't wait until November to find out. :lol:

But there are aa few things that worry me as well. The trailer leans very heavy towards what happens in part 2 without showing much from part 1. I don't mind them presenting it as one film in two parts with footage from both parts, but I think there was too much footage from part 2 and not enough from part 1. There's so much from part 1 that they could have used to show the intensity and the drama - the Seven Potters, the wedding/attack, the cafe attack, the Ministry break in, etc... I would have liked to get a better idea of what's going to happen with those scenes instead of all that footage from the battle at Hogwarts.

Why is Harry in a brightly lit, colorful child's nursery where everything looks brand new when he is attacked by Nagini? That doesn't make any sense. I've seen that some are speculating that Harry goes into his parents house instead of Bathilda Bagshots house, but it still doesn't make any sense because everything looks brand new and, apart from a small hole in the wall, there's no real damage. The Potter's home - specifically Harry's room - was practically blown apart by a dark curse. You cannot repair the damage done by a dark curse so Harry's old nursery should be in shambles with everything damaged, no lights - or dim lighting from lit candles or old lamps, and it should be dirty - dust and cobwebs everywhere from years of standing empty. Having him in this brightly lit, colorful room where everything looks brand new just doesn't feel right for that scene.

The final duel looks like it's going to be very disappointing - basically a rehash of the duel from GOF. Harry tied up/restrained while Voldemort taunts/questions him - and he somehow gets out of that alive to end up facing Voldemort in the courtyard - with nobody else around other than a few dead bodies. Where are all the people that were fighting? The priori incantatem effect - for the third time. Are they really so unimaginative that the only effects they can think of for magical duels are for people to be blasted backward or jets of light connecting in mid air? They can digitally create a fireball streaming through the sky, but they can't digitally create the effect of golden flames shooting from a wand? They had this wonderfully dramatic, intense scene already written for them brilliantly in the book that would have been amazing on screen - and they just threw all that away to give us a boring repeat of the duel from GOF?

It's not often that you can say that a book is more cinematic than a film, but the Harry Potter films are turning out that way. The written descriptions in the books for the spell effects and duels were so creative and would have been such a visual treat on the big screen. I think they really blew it by only showing people getting blasted backwards or jets of colored light connecting.

I am also wondering if they will show Harry packing his stuff. Throwing aside what he wont need. It was emotional for me in the book , I wonder if they will somehow include this bit.

I think that would be very nostalgic - especially with that being Harry's opening scene in part 1. He kept the things that were precious to him as well as what he thought he would need so that would be an interesting way to tie the series together. I can see him pulling out that photo album Hagrid gave him in his first year with the photo of him with his parents on the cover and opening it to the photo of the trio when they were so young and tiny. An old set of robes that he's outgrown, the old sneakoscope that Ron gave him, his dress robes or one of the golden egg from the tournament, the mirror shard, the fake locket - I think there are quite a few things they could show Harry keeping or discarding to remind the audience of the previous films and show how much things have changed.

I'm assuming they will just be the same type of sneak peak we got for all the previous films. There will be about five of them and they will each focus on a different part of the film(s). They will air one at a time throughout the HP weekend and will combine on set interviews with shots from the films.

I think that's very likely. Those are good - it's interesting to hear what the actors think of the scenes that they have filmed. I like seeing the behind the scenes footage and comparing it to the final version from the film. They don't always go into as much detail as I'd like, but I always enjoy watching those segments.

Do we know what other things they have planned for this "aggressive" marketing campaign?

I dont have problems with it either. However , I do wish they would show more of the first part. Watching all those great scenes from the second part and knowing they are still so far away from being watched is not cool, they do get me exited about how great it will be.
But I would not mind watching some footage from part one.
Ministry scenes, the seven potters, Godric´s Hollow.
Just having Umbridge on a bit would create expectation, even muggles know who she was and hate her as well, so showing a bit of her would be cool.
Also having Dobby refreshened would be nice. It would help people remember who he was.

I agree. I'd love to see some footage from the Ministry break in when they confront Umbridge. Seeing Dobby would be great as well because it would give us an idea of how they plan to fix the huge mistake they made in cutting him from GOF, OOTP, and HBP. I'd like to see McGonagall too - she won't show up until part 2, but she has some of the coolest scenes in the battle with her duel with Snape and enchanting the desks to charge out and fight. I'm really, really hoping they keep those things for the battle. When I read DH, I always imagine how cool all of that will look on the big screen.

The final duel looks like it's going to be very disappointing - basically a rehash of the duel from GOF. Harry tied up/restrained while Voldemort taunts/questions him - and he somehow gets out of that alive to end up facing Voldemort in the courtyard - with nobody else around other than a few dead bodies. Where are all the people that were fighting? The priori incantatem effect - for the third time. Are they really so unimaginative that the only effects they can think of for magical duels are for people to be blasted backward or jets of light connecting in mid air? They can digitally create a fireball streaming through the sky, but they can't digitally create the effect of golden flames shooting from a wand? They had this wonderfully dramatic, intense scene already written for them brilliantly in the book that would have been amazing on screen - and they just threw all that away to give us a boring repeat of the duel from GOF?



But it's not Priori Incantatem. The spells are just colliding, which is what happens in the book. With Priori Incanatem, when they cast spells at eachother, the spells automatically connect and repeat the spells of the users' wands. In this show in the trailer, it shows the spells simply colliding, just like in the book.

I gotta say Meesha...I agree with you 100%. You've voiced what I've been hesitant to reveal...I am kinda disappointed in what we've seen of the duel as well. It does seem like a rehash of GOF. :shrug: In-fact when pictures from the trailers were released, I thought Harry and Voldemort were copy and pasted from GOF. Another thing I don't like is how dominant Voldemort seems in this scene. Harry seems the overwhelmed but standing strong youth in that "something worth living for" bit when he should have returned from King's Cross as this enlightened, mature, fear nothing, outspoken messiah-like leader who was clearly in control and exude a presence and a charisma that dominated Voldemort for once. Instead he speaks in a whisper and seems very much out of his element. Brave but overpowered, ala GOF.

And you're right about the trailer. The problem wasn't so much that they were advertising two films but the fact that it was off-balanced in favor of part 2 which makes little sense to me.

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Meesha, I totally agree with you on the Snake scene in a toy room. If that is supposed to be Harry's room why does it look brand new?

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You're never going to get universal acclaim for anything. :lol: I'm remaining optimistic, I'm just admitting some of my disappointments. It is ultimately just a trailer and hopefully these scenes will work better in context.

I suspect there will be many posts agreeing with you and bashing people for having some criticisms but I don't think this is the way to go. We are all on the same level. We're all fans. Instead of dividing ourselves into groups "gushers", "bashers" we should speak about what we like or don't like on a relatable level and maybe help each other see the other point of view.

its like either were not getting enough or were getting too much. i mean in the end it wont stop anyone here from seeing the movie

I agree. I was not all that impressed with the duel either. I will wait and see because it was a quick shot. The Harry being tied up may make more sense in context. I also dislike that it seems like there is no one else watching them though i could understand that they think it looks more intimate and powerful to have this one on one moment. Maybe they are there, but to the right outside the shot.

I am going to wait and see on this one.

The child's room at Godric's hollow is very strange. I still think the only thing that makes sense is that it is Harry's bedroom. They may just not have the house get blown up as it does in the book. That does not seem like such an unreasonable change.

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:clap: This is exactly right. People will always find a problem with it. They either revealed too much or they didn't show us enough. They either cut and changed too much or stayed too true to the book. The lines are either too cheesy or perfectly written.

I think people are jumping to conclusions way too quickly about the final battle. They've extended it. For all we know this could be the very beginning before they move throughout the castle and eventually into the Great Hall.

And as I've said before, I still don't understand all this talk about Priori Incantatem.:relax:

Ugh, footage of the final showdown?? Come on, WB. :lol: There's so much stuff you can show us! I really don't want to see the final showdown yet...we've seen more than enough in the trailer. I don't like the sound of this. :shrug: I personally think WB is jumping the gun with the marketing. I mean why not show us scenes from the Prince's Tale and Kings Cross while they're at it? :lol:

Yes, Prince's Tale! We demand Prince's Tale! (Is WB reading this? Probably not, LOL, but might as well say it! ;) )

The child's room at Godric's hollow is very strange. I still think the only thing that makes sense is that it is Harry's bedroom. They may just not have the house get blown up as it does in the book. That does not seem like such an unreasonable change.
The house is not completely blown up in the book, just the right side of the top floor where the nursery was. Most of it is standing, which is why I wondered while reading the book that Harry didn't try to go inside it. However, Harry assumes it might be cursed and Hermione tells Harry it looks unsafe, which I feel is a little bit lame since they are the brave Gryffindors who rush in where angels fear to tread most of the time. :relax: I personally like the idea of Harry going inside and seeing his old nursery - in fact I'm excited that the movies are going there!

Most of the cottage was still standing, though entirely covered in dark ivy and snow, but the right side of the top floor had been blown apart; that, Harry was sure, was where the curse had backfired.

He and Hermione stood at the gate, gazing at the wreck of what must once have been a cottage just like those that flanked it.

“I wonder why nobody’s ever rebuilt it?” whispered Hermione.

“Maybe you can’t rebuild it?” Harry replied, “Maybe it’s like the injuries from Dark Magic and you can’t repair the damage?”

He slipped a hand from beneath the Cloak and grasped the snowy and thickly rusted gate, not wishing to open it, but simply to hold some part of the house.

“You’re not going to go inside? It looks unsafe, it might—oh, Harry, look!”

His touch on the gate seemed to have done it. A sign had risen out of the ground in front of them, up through the tangles of nettles and weeds, like some bizarre, fast-growing flower, and in golden letters upon the wood it said:

On this spot, on the night of 31 October 1981,
Lily and James Potter lost their lives.
Their son, Harry, remains the only wizard
ever to have survived the Killing Curse.
This house, invisible to Muggles, has been left
in its ruined state as a monument to the Potters
and as a reminder of the violence
that tore apart their family

Boring rehash of the Goblet of Fire? I think it looks brilliant and exciting... not to mention beautiful. We only saw like 5 seconds of the final duel, i have a feeling the rest of the people battling will show and watch. there will be more to it than this "boring" duel we've seen before.

and the spells collide in the book as well, they're just expanding on it. the final fight will be much more dramatic than in the book, where they only exchange one spell. I think they will be fighting around the castle, because we see Voldemort holding harry's face in that one scene, then we see them fighting in that "boring" duel in the courtyard, and its confirmed that Bellatrix dies in the Great Hall so we know they will be in there at some point.

You know im not so bothered by the nursery thing, but there's one thing that is really bothering me about that shot. Why is there a perfect door shaped hole in the wall? What is that? If this is Harry's room, is that where Voldemort blew the door off or what? I dont know why but that Specifically door shaped hole is bothering me for some reason

The house is not completely blown up in the book, just the right side of the top floor where the nursery was. Most of it is standing, which is why I wondered while reading the book that Harry didn't try to go inside it. However, Harry assumes it might be cursed and Hermione tells Harry it looks unsafe, which I feel is a little bit lame since they are the brave Gryffindors who rush in where angels fear to tread most of the time. :relax: I personally like the idea of Harry going inside and seeing his old nursery - in fact I'm excited that the movies are going there!

I actually think it could work too. If Harry is in the house and seeing Voldemort remember the night that Harry's parents died in his mind. If they sort of go back and forth between those two moments. I think that could be an interesting way of doing it.

Also the whole cursed spells can't be fixed thing is sort of ridiculous like the sticky spell that cannot be removed.

PS. I agree about the perfectly square shaped hole. I have no idea unless Harry creates the hole to enter the room. I don't know.

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This (http://www.snitchseeker.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=84986&fullsize=1) is probably my favorite screencap of the trailer. Right after the kiss, the pull-away and you can see the subtle lingering emotion...you can see that Ginny's nose is red and her eyes are puffy so she has been crying...This is going to be a very emotional scene IMHO...I think this is going to be right before Harry goes to "die" in the forest as he is wearing the same outfit.

-JR

I commented on one of the early threads that the best place for a Harry/Ginny kiss would be when she arrives with Fred and George in the ROR so this could be it. This is the first time she's seen him since the wedding and, hopefully, the birthday kiss.

You know im not so bothered by the nursery thing, but there's one thing that is really bothering me about that shot. Why is there a perfect door shaped hole in the wall? What is that? If this is Harry's room, is that where Voldemort blew the door off or what? I dont know why but that Specifically door shaped hole is bothering me for some reason
I didn't like it either, but it reminded me of Hagrid blowing the door squarely off the hinges in Movie One, so I think that is the reference they are making. Maybe they didn't want people to think that Voldemort came in through a window or something.

i totally agree with you about priori incantatum. we should be happy they have put so much effort into splitting Deathly hallows up in the first place. They could have just said to hell with it and make into one 2 hour movie and hack it all to pieces. Im sure i will be thrilled with the final product no matter what

I completely agree with nicholas. I am glad they did not do that! If it was one film and everything was chopped down....I can't imagine I would really even be excited about it because it wouldn't be the same...
I was reading earlier posts and just want to say I hope they do not exclude Lupin visiting them at Grimmauld Place. I hope they keep the radio...in fact, if they didn't, it might be weird to go into the Taboo and the Snatchers. I thought part of the reason Harry said it was because he was so excited to hear familiar voices and he completely forgot.
As for this weekend, I'm not going to be able to watch all of the films. I usually watch the clips when Mugglenet posts links to them...so if they do show more, and something revealing, of the final battle scene, I just won't watch that clip. I want to see more, but not at the expense of making part 2 boring because I have seen it all. Yes, I might forget about it before then...but I suspect it might be pieces from the trailer. I find it hard to believe they would want to give away more of this scene than they already have...especially considering some movie fans have not read the books.
I saw some of you are re-reading DH. I started over re-reading SS and have finished CoS and watched both films. It's actually been fun to re-read them and find little lines of dialogue (alluding to the events of DH) that I missed before...

The radio will be in at least in some form. I thought the taboo word was interesting also. I am not sure if that is in though. It isn't necessary.

there are alot of things that are in that are not necessary and i think the taboo should be in

it kind of is because its how they get caught and its how they realize how the death eaters found them in tottenham court. im sure they could make a new way, but this way just already works SO easily that theres no reason to remove it.

I think people are jumping to conclusions way too quickly about the final battle. They've extended it. For all we know this could be the very beginning before they move throughout the castle and eventually into the Great Hall.

You and I have agreed on this before, so I know where you stand on it generally. However, I disagree that this is the beginning of their confrontation. My reason is that it doesn't makes sense in context because I can't see how the sequence would work with Harry disappearing from Hagrid's arms at the crowds outburst/Nagini's death, then the chaos breaks out. All of that is going to happen directly where Harry is standing in the duel shot from the trailer. So I think that that shot is later in the duel, and the majority of the battle has taken the castle and more importantly, the Great Hall, where I hope Harry and Voldemort will be backing/blown into just moments after this shot. I just don't think that the courtyard would be cleared that soon after the chaotic shot of Neville decapitating Nagini, ya know? I think it'll be a good 20-30 seconds after that shot before Harry confronts Voldemort.

I think they need to include the taboo in the film. That's how the trio were found in Tottenham Court and captured in the forest by Greyback and the others. How else would the snatchers know their exact location?

You and I have agreed on this before, so I know where you stand on it generally. However, I disagree that this is the beginning of their confrontation. My reason is that it doesn't makes sense in context because I can't see how the sequence would work with Harry disappearing from Hagrid's arms at the crowds outburst/Nagini's death, then the chaos breaks out. All of that is going to happen directly where Harry is standing in the duel shot from the trailer. So I think that that shot is later in the duel, and the majority of the battle has taken the castle and more importantly, the Great Hall, where I hope Harry and Voldemort will be backing/blown into just moments after this shot. I just don't think that the courtyard would be cleared that soon after the chaotic shot of Neville decapitating Nagini, ya know? I think it'll be a good 20-30 seconds after that shot before Harry confronts Voldemort.

All great points. I was just using an example off the top of my head. People's overreaction to the courtyard confrontation has been really grating on me, to say the least.

All great points. I was just using an example off the top of my head. People's overreaction to the courtyard confrontation has been really grating on me, to say the least.

I wouldn't say it's an 'overreaction' on everyone's part. Just a reaction. I think you might be overreacting yourself to the criticisms. People are just airing their thoughts and feelings, that's all. They aren't absolute.

I think we hardly know why people post one or another remark - that's why it's always the best to comment on opinions been posted, but not speculate what else member x or y might have had in mind. It doesn't help a polite conversation at all. :)

we all need to agree to disagree

But it's not Priori Incantatem. The spells are just colliding, which is what happens in the book. With Priori Incanatem, when they cast spells at eachother, the spells automatically connect and repeat the spells of the users' wands. In this show in the trailer, it shows the spells simply colliding, just like in the book.

Priori Incantatem - as shown in the film for GOF - was the two spells connecting with the two different colored jets of light stretching between Harry and Voldemort and the two of them trying to push their spell forward to hit the other's wand. For the full effect of Prior Incantatem, one of them must force their spell into the other wand and then the last spells cast with that wand will appear. But the spells connecting that way is part of Prior Incantatem - the connection was what caused the last spells cast to appear. That is the effect used in the GOF film for Harry and Voldemort's duel in the graveyard as well as in OOTP for Voldemort and Dumbledore's duel at the Ministry. And now we have that exact same effect being used for Harry and Voldemort's duel in DH. That is just a boring rehash of something we have already seen done - twice.

GOF - Graveyard Duel

http://media.the-leaky-cauldron.org/gallery/films/GOF/Screenshots/Movie/normal_gofdvd_5695.jpg

OOTP - Dumbledore vs. Voldemort

http://media.the-leaky-cauldron.org/gallery/films/OOTP/ScreenCaptures/5901_6000/normal_hp5_films_5917.jpg

DH - Final Duel

http://media.the-leaky-cauldron.org/gallery/films/DH/PreviewsPromosTrailer/HighResTrailerStills/normal_dh_highrestrailerstills_09.jpg

The only time we should have seen that visual effect was in GOF because that type of connection is only supposed to occur with brother wands - wands that share a magical core from the same magical creature. And that was mentioned in the GOF film as well - briefly, but it was mentioned. The effect of the spells connecting like that should not have happened with Dumbledore and Voldemort's duel in OOTP and it should not happen with Harry and Voldemort's duel in DH because they are not using brother wands.

In the book the spells collided and bounced off of each other - they did not connect. There was an eruption of golden flames at the point where the spells collided and, within seconds, Voldemort's wand flew out of his hand and he was dead. No connecting beams of light - no Harry trying to force his spell to Voldemort's wand - no boring rehash of what happened with the duel in GOF. The two spells they use should take no more than a few seconds - they say the spells, they collide with golden flames, and Voldemort's wand flies out of his hand as he dies. The bulk of that scene should be spent on building the dramatic tension with Harry and Voldemort circling each other and Harry taunting Voldemort with what he did wrong. I don't want to see a repeat of what happened in GOF. Been there, done that. I want to see what happened in DH - we are paying for a ticket to see a film that is supposed to be based on that book after all.

I gotta say Meesha...I agree with you 100%. You've voiced what I've been hesitant to reveal...I am kinda disappointed in what we've seen of the duel as well. It does seem like a rehash of GOF. :shrug: In-fact when pictures from the trailers were released, I thought Harry and Voldemort were copy and pasted from GOF. Another thing I don't like is how dominant Voldemort seems in this scene. Harry seems the overwhelmed but standing strong youth in that "something worth living for" bit when he should have returned from King's Cross as this enlightened, mature, fear nothing, outspoken messiah-like leader who was clearly in control and exude a presence and a charisma that dominated Voldemort for once. Instead he speaks in a whisper and seems very much out of his element. Brave but overpowered, ala GOF.

I thought that as well - especially with Harry's face. It's almost like the only thing they did was digitally alter the background and the clothes they're wearing. For a minute, I was trying to figure out what was wrong with Harry's hair - I was actually looking for the longer style he had in GOF. :lol: If they hadn't been on their knees, I would probably wonder if they had done that.

I'm not sure about the part where Harry is restrained and Voldemort asks him why he still lives. It is very reminiscent of GOF with Harry being restrained by the statue - kind of a mirror scene with Voldemort being less sure of himself because of Harry's survival. I'm less concerned with Harry being overpowered in that brief moment than I am about how they're going to believably show him getting out of that to end up in the courtyard several feet apart with the Priori Incantatem spell effect. I actually like the dialog there - and I like how Dan delivered that line because that was the advantage that Harry had over Voldemort. It just seems very weird for them to have Voldemort overpower Harry like that - if Voldemort had Harry at his mercy like that, there's no way he would just let him go. Nor is it believable for Harry to be able to magically overpower Voldemort. Harry can only believably win on a technicality because he's no match for Voldemort in a duel.

I'm very worried that the film is going to give us "super Harry" - much like POA gave us the nauseating PinkPowerGranger. It would be just awful if they did that. What is so appealing about Harry Potter is that he is not some super powerful wizard. He was just an average boy forced into extraordinary circumstances by the actions of other people. Harry never had more magical power than Voldemort - what he had was more determination and something worth fighting for - and living for.

And you're right about the trailer. The problem wasn't so much that they were advertising two films but the fact that it was off-balanced in favor of part 2 which makes little sense to me.

I can see why they would include bits from part 2 to create anticipation for - especially for the final battle, but I was surprised that they did not create a better balance with footage from part 1. They just recently finished shooting so the part 2 footage is still rather raw - I'm reminded of the trailer we got for OOTP that had the unfinished special effects with the Ministry notices falling off the wall - the finished effect was the fireworks causing them to explode and fall. You would think they would want to showcase more footage from part 1 because that should be more polished with more finished effects at this point.

Meesha, I totally agree with you on the Snake scene in a toy room. If that is supposed to be Harry's room why does it look brand new?

Exactly. I really don't mind if they change the location to the Potter house, but if they're going to do that, they should at least make it believable. Harry's room was destroyed by the curse that backfired and you can't repair damage done by the Dark Arts. The house was left standing and preserved in the condition it was in the night the Potters died as a monument to their sacrifice and Voldemort's apparent downfall that night. The house should be in terrible condition - gaping holes in the walls where the nursery was, rubble and dust everywhere, broken toys, no light or dim light from candles they lit as they went in, etc... That scene just didn't feel right in the trailer.

It does look similar to GoF but the GoF duel had the ghosts and a kind of white steam dome around the duel that the other two dont have. As long as it is made clear that the Elder Wand belonging to Harry is Voldemorts downfall and not Harry's skill I will be happy.

In the book the spells collided and bounced off of each other - they did not connect. There was an eruption of golden flames at the point where the spells collided and, within seconds, Voldemort's wand flew out of his hand and he was dead. No connecting beams of light - no Harry trying to force his spell to Voldemort's wand - no boring rehash of what happened with the duel in GOF. The two spells they use should take no more than a few seconds - they say the spells, they collide with golden flames, and Voldemort's wand flies out of his hand as he dies. The bulk of that scene should be spent on building the dramatic tension with Harry and Voldemort circling each other and Harry taunting Voldemort with what he did wrong. I don't want to see a repeat of what happened in GOF. Been there, done that. I want to see what happened in DH - we are paying for a ticket to see a film that is supposed to be based on that book after all.

If this the final spell cast between the two of them, it does worry me because if they have they're wands connected like this for 10 seconds then + or - the golden flames Voldemorts wand flies out of his hand, it going look very confusing be and the audience won't understand whats happened. The only way I can see it working realistically (like this) is if one or other spell is forced to the tip of the opposing wand and then the Elder Wand would be sucked out of Voldemorts hand


I'm very worried that the film is going to give us "super Harry" - much like POA gave us the nauseating PinkPowerGranger. It would be just awful if they did that. What is so appealing about Harry Potter is that he is not some super powerful wizard. He was just an average boy forced into extraordinary circumstances by the actions of other people. Harry never had more magical power than Voldemort - what he had was more determination and something worth fighting for - and living for. When Voldemort brings all of his power to bare on Molly Weasley after Bellatrix dies, this could be a good oppotunity for any "Super-Harry moment" because when he casts the Protego and it spreads across the room, to anyone witnessing it, it would certainly look like Harry was overpowering Voldemort even though its not the case as the Elder Wand is yielding to Harry in this instant.


I can see why they would include bits from part 2 to create anticipation for - especially for the final battle, but I was surprised that they did not create a better balance with footage from part 1. They just recently finished shooting so the part 2 footage is still rather raw - I'm reminded of the trailer we got for OOTP that had the unfinished special effects with the Ministry notices falling off the wall - the finished effect was the fireworks causing them to explode and fall. You would think they would want to showcase more footage from part 1 because that should be more polished with more finished effects at this point.

They seem to be promoting it as if it was only in 1 part at the moment, which makes me wonder how much they are actually going to promote part 2, I think we've heard of a trailer for part 2 other than that, are we going two premiere's?