Way Ahead for Deathly Hallows Movie(s) v.5

I wonder if they will still be showing Part 1 footage in the trailers for Part 2? Or will there be no new trailers.

While I won't quote you meesha, I do agree with you.

I found it a little odd that Harry and Voldemort's connection in GoF was reused in OotP with Voldmort and Dumbledore. Now to see it again in DH seems off too and not how I pictured the final duel from the book. I pictured more of a "gun-slinger" type approach and two spells being cast, reflecting off each other, etc. I also found it odd that if that was the final duel, 1) why was it in the courtyard and 2) where is everyone watching?

-JR

I also found it odd that if that was the final duel, 1) why was it in the courtyard and 2) where is everyone watching?


While listening to the Mugglenet analysis of the trailer- I'm sure they mentioned that perhaps WB were considering the idea that the Great Hall would be almost completely destroyed after the Battle.

I like the idea of it being in the courtyard; in my opinion, it makes the Final Duel seem a lot more dramatic as it is in the vastness and open area of the outdoors.

Also, on the Mugglenet analysis, they said that perhaps this scene would just be shot with Voldemort and Harry- and them alone (also with the strewn dead wizards and witches... :upset:). They thought that this would make the Final Duel much more personal between Voldemort and Harry. They also stated that this adds more vulnerability to Harry, as he doesn't of the security of other wizards/witches to back him up and protect him, to an extent, if he fails.

While I don't like the Harry and Voldemort wands connection being used again and contradicting the Deathly Hallows; I feel it gives the Final Duel an element of suspense, drama and scope.

I've read the entire thread and I have a couple questions from the trailers/sneak peaks that have been released that I haven't seen really explored here yet.

1) In the sneak peak from the HBP disk, why is Ollivander the one explaining the hallows ("It is rumored there are three..."). That is definitely John Hurt and it certainly looks to be taking place at Shell Cottage. Shouldn't they already know about the hallows from Xeno by this point? In the books, I thought Ollivander doesn't know about the hallows, other than the Elder Wand. To me it raises a few questions? What benefit would it give the film to have them learn this from him, rather than Xeno? When I first saw this I thought they might be skipping the Lovegood house altogether, but we've definitely seen pics and info from there. What will they do at the Lovegood house other than be attacked if the Hallows aren't explained? Assuming the split is around when the trio are captured, Shell cottage would be in the second film... how can they have a "Deathly Hallows Part 1" if they don't even know about the Hallows until the second film?

2) in the "Forest Again" scenes... is anyone else bothered by the fact that Nagini is nowhere to be seen in any of the shots? Shouldn't LV be guarding his snake with the utmost care at this point? I thought maybe it could be an effect they add in post production, but the more I think about it, that's a huge thing to add after it's already been in the trailer, and the way the pictures are framed I don't see how they would fit it in.

I'm new here (yes, bandwagonner) so my apologies if these have been covered elsewhere and I couldn't find it. If so, please point me in the right direction.

I've read the entire thread and I have a couple questions from the trailers/sneak peaks that have been released that I haven't seen really explored here yet.

1) In the sneak peak from the HBP disk, why is Ollivander the one explaining the hallows ("It is rumored there are three..."). That is definitely John Hurt and it certainly looks to be taking place at Shell Cottage. Shouldn't they already know about the hallows from Xeno by this point? In the books, I thought Ollivander doesn't know about the hallows, other than the Elder Wand. To me it raises a few questions? What benefit would it give the film to have them learn this from him, rather than Xeno? When I first saw this I thought they might be skipping the Lovegood house altogether, but we've definitely seen pics and info from there. What will they do at the Lovegood house other than be attacked if the Hallows aren't explained? Assuming the split is around when the trio are captured, Shell cottage would be in the second film... how can they have a "Deathly Hallows Part 1" if they don't even know about the Hallows until the second film? I think the will learn about the hallows from Xeno in part 1, I think Ollivander (you right, he didn't know about it in the book) may serve as a re-cap for the benefit of the audience in part 2.


2) in the "Forest Again" scenes... is anyone else bothered by the fact that Nagini is nowhere to be seen in any of the shots? Shouldn't LV be guarding his snake with the utmost care at this point? I thought maybe it could be an effect they add in post production, but the more I think about it, that's a huge thing to add after it's already been in the trailer, and the way the pictures are framed I don't see how they would fit it in. I hadn't noticed, I can only think she is floating somewhere above are line of vision.


I'm new here (yes, bandwagonner) so my apologies if these have been covered elsewhere and I couldn't find it. If so, please point me in the right direction.

:welcome:

The final duel looks like it's going to be very disappointing - basically a rehash of the duel from GOF. Harry tied up/restrained while Voldemort taunts/questions him - and he somehow gets out of that alive to end up facing Voldemort in the courtyard - with nobody else around other than a few dead bodies. Where are all the people that were fighting? The priori incantatem effect - for the third time. Are they really so unimaginative that the only effects they can think of for magical duels are for people to be blasted backward or jets of light connecting in mid air? They can digitally create a fireball streaming through the sky, but they can't digitally create the effect of golden flames shooting from a wand? They had this wonderfully dramatic, intense scene already written for them brilliantly in the book that would have been amazing on screen - and they just threw all that away to give us a boring repeat of the duel from GOF?
:tu: I have said I did not like it, and I will say it again. I am being optimistic and waiting to see the scene as a whole not just this bit they show ( no I dont want to see it now, I want to see it in the film ) I have been told several times the spells are just coliding, but when a spell colides , wont it bounce back fast enough, IN the scene it somehow seems once again there is a connection and Harry is being powerful enough :rollseyes: to stand up to Voldemort´s spell. I did say I will shut up about it and I will. I will wait till we see it complete. But I stand up to what I say, I hope they have kept is as it was in the book cause it was perfectly written, the rest of the battle will have loads of action , adding more action in this dule which was purely verbal will simply ruin it. IMO. I am shutting up now. don´t jump on me once again, I am shuttin up.

Harry Potter fans are never happy, well... we are happy when we get the film as a whole. Some of us are. Having scenes leaked of in the trailers gives us plenty of time to assimilate changes, to vent out emotions , to discuss and all of it enables us to watch the film and then love it. I think I can speak for me and some of my friends when I say, after discussing scene by scene of HBP and saying what we loved or hated about the pics we got, when we saw the film at last , we all loved it. AND we were pretty happy with it:)

I think that would be very nostalgic - especially with that being Harry's opening scene in part 1. He kept the things that were precious to him as well as what he thought he would need so that would be an interesting way to tie the series together. I can see him pulling out that photo album Hagrid gave him in his first year with the photo of him with his parents on the cover and opening it to the photo of the trio when they were so young and tiny. An old set of robes that he's outgrown, the old sneakoscope that Ron gave him, his dress robes or one of the golden egg from the tournament, the mirror shard, the fake locket - I think there are quite a few things they could show Harry keeping or discarding to remind the audience of the previous films and show how much things have changed.

:agree: crosses fingers.I think that would be very nostalgic - especially with that being Harry's opening scene in part 1. He kept the things that were precious to him as well as what he thought he would need so that would be an interesting way to tie the series together. I can see him pulling out that photo album Hagrid gave him in his first year with the photo of him with his parents on the cover and opening it to the photo of the trio when they were so young and tiny. An old set of robes that he's outgrown, the old sneakoscope that Ron gave him, his dress robes or one of the golden egg from the tournament, the mirror shard, the fake locket - I think there are quite a few things they could show Harry keeping or discarding to remind the audience of the previous films and show how much things have changed.


I reread that bit today , and I was hoping , praying they did not cut it, but leave it . That duel Snape vs.Mgonagall its so great in the book. I hope they keep it.


And about Harry´s Bedroom, I was rereading and Harry gets all emotional just being infront of the graves , being inside his old house would be too much. But I guess it is an effort to make it even more dramatic. But once again we are jumping into conclusions . Who knows, maybe they have a kiddies room in Bathilda´s house, it would not make any sense but it could be. ( I am trying to be positive ) Bit late, but my thoughts on the trailer -

its never late to post your thougths meesha, like Vince said , you usually voice out what some of us want to say in a coherent and fluent way. I usually put too much heart in my posts or manage to poorly say the turmoil of thought in my head. Your posts are usually awesome , dont worry about the lateness, do keep posting.:tu:

Well the way I see this whole Priori Incantatem Issue is that in Ootp and Dh the spells are colliding. Spells colliding is not an effect of Priori Icantatem ONLY, just because the spells collide does not mean there will be a Priori Incantatem.

From Harry Potter Lexicon:
When two wands are forced to duel that have core material from the same single creature, the result will be "Priori Incantatem," a display in sequence of the last spells one of the wands cast. Which wand will show the spell effect depends on the willpower of the two wizards involved.

So Priori Incantatem would occur only when the duel is between brother wands, However spells colliding is not the only way for Priori Incantatem to occur.

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Chapter Nine, Page 134:
Winky trembled and shook her head frantically, her ears flapping, as Mr. Diggory raised his own wand again and placed it tip to tip with Harry's.
"Priori Incantato!" roared Mr. Diggory.

So the way I see it, just because two spells collide does not mean that it's Priori Incantatem, and who says spells can't collide? I think I remember reading spells colliding in the book as well at some point...maybe. But anyway, Priori Incantatem by colliding spells can only happen whenever the wands are brother wands. I'd assume that if spells collide which ever one can will his spell over to the opposing person that spell would then finally take affect. Which is why in Ootp Voldemort just stopped the collison and conjured the fire because Dumbledore was winned the collison. But judging by the fact that anyone can do the Priori Incantatem just not as cool looking i don't know. I just think it's spells colliding, Not Priori Incantatem. It CAN'T be Priori Incantatem without the wands being brothers.

Zooming over the lake at the beginning of the trailer - did anyone else think this might be from the escape on the dragon, or is it likely just an establishing shot from when they are roaming the countryside?

Zooming over the lake at the beginning of the trailer - did anyone else think this might be from the escape on the dragon, or is it likely just an establishing shot from when they are roaming the countryside?

I was wondering that too. I think it could be either of those things.

I thought that as well TimTheEnchanter, that it could be the dragon, because of how the shot was swooping close to the water. I didn't think we could see anything well enough to tell though.

Zooming over the lake at the beginning of the trailer - did anyone else think this might be from the escape on the dragon, or is it likely just an establishing shot from when they are roaming the countryside?

Interesting question. Maybe it's an establishing shot from the scene when Voldemort steals the Elder Wand. :shrug:

The people doing the films have added many little details in what we have seen and saw in HBP. I am rereading the Hogwarts battle, there are so many things in it I hope are kept in.
Mgonagall bewitching the armors and get them fighting.
Proffessor Sprout and her plants, the whole Gryffindor team re joining to fight.
Also , that moment when Pancy Parkinson shrieks that Harry is there and everyone stands up to protect Harry. All these little details that normally would not make it due to time restrictions, but now that they have the time. Do you think they will include them?

I really like the moment when Pansy sees Harry and says catch him and everyone stands up. I just don't know. They never keep those moments it seems like. They usually create different sort of moments. If there was one i would want them to keep though it would be that one.

Oh! I forgot about that part! I hope they do keep that. It's a chilling moment. It would be cool to keep in the movie.

yea i love that moment when evreyone stands up and draws there wands against the slytherin table

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zVrHXSE-Vgg&playnext_from=TL&videos=j2pzbTuv2Ys

I was watching the video above, a very well put together video of 'The Forest Again'. I loved this, it just made me think that whatever they do in the movie, it wont be better than how it was done in the book. I love this bit and I hope Voldemort has similar dialogue in the movie as he does in the book.

I just want them to stay as close to the books as possible, they cant mess this up.

That is honestly the best fan video I have ever seen. I hope it is as emotional as that in the film.

Harry potter weekend starts tomorrow!

If anyone is able to record the interviews or anything that would be great.

While I love Dan's delivery of the line, does anyone else feel like the "something worth living for" moment is too similar to the "something worth fighting for" part in the OotP movie? I was a little underwhelmed by that part of the trailer because we had basically heard it before... I actually love the idea of that scene though. More Ralph Fiennes is always a good thing.

Actually the thing i liked the most about the scene is that it echoed the line from the end of OotP. I really liked that scene at the end of OotP.

Actually the thing i liked the most about the scene is that it echoed the line from the end of OotP. I really liked that scene at the end of OotP.
I agree. I think it was a nice parallel. I'm hoping they throw in more (but not too many) parallels between the movies like this.

I like how Harry says it. And I like the expression on his face also.

That Forest Again video was great!! That's my favorite chapter in the series and that was awesome!

Harry potter weekend starts tomorrow!

Woohoo!

While I love Dan's delivery of the line, does anyone else feel like the "something worth living for" moment is too similar to the "something worth fighting for" part in the OotP movie? I was a little underwhelmed by that part of the trailer because we had basically heard it before... I actually love the idea of that scene though. More Ralph Fiennes is always a good thing.

I know what you mean. Harry does say that at the end of OotP. But I like that Voldy says "Why do you live?" because he is always saying "Harry Potter. The Boy Who Lived". There it's like he is finally asking why he lives. MuggleCast pointed that out and I like it. I don't know if you understand what I'm trying to say haha.

yes i definitely like anything that echoes earlier movies!!! Simply amazing

While I love Dan's delivery of the line, does anyone else feel like the "something worth living for" moment is too similar to the "something worth fighting for" part in the OotP movie? I was a little underwhelmed by that part of the trailer because we had basically heard it before... I actually love the idea of that scene though. More Ralph Fiennes is always a good thing.

I love how it ties to the final line of OOTP. It creates great continuity and running theme between films. It also makes the ending of OOTP, which I initially disliked, become much more meaningful.

I like that Voldy says "Why do you live?" because he is always saying "Harry Potter. The Boy Who Lived". There it's like he is finally asking why he lives. MuggleCast pointed that out and I like it. I don't know if you understand what I'm trying to say haha.
Haha, yes, I understand! I see what you guys mean about the parallel, but I was just hoping for an awesome comeback and instead I felt like they recycled a line. I love the look of the scene though. My jaw was basically on the floor for the whole length of the trailer and I can't wait for November! :tu:

While I won't quote you meesha, I do agree with you.

I found it a little odd that Harry and Voldemort's connection in GoF was reused in OotP with Voldmort and Dumbledore. Now to see it again in DH seems off too and not how I pictured the final duel from the book. I pictured more of a "gun-slinger" type approach and two spells being cast, reflecting off each other, etc. I also found it odd that if that was the final duel, 1) why was it in the courtyard and 2) where is everyone watching?

-JR

That's exactly what I loved about that moment in the book - the "gunslinger" feel of it. The two of them circling each other, Voldemort posturing, Harry taunting him with the mistakes he made and calling him "Tom" - that's so dramatic and intense and it would have been amazing on screen to build up the tension and anticipation. Then - BAM - the shots are fired and it's over. That would have been perfect.

I've read the entire thread and I have a couple questions from the trailers/sneak peaks that have been released that I haven't seen really explored here yet.

1) In the sneak peak from the HBP disk, why is Ollivander the one explaining the hallows ("It is rumored there are three..."). That is definitely John Hurt and it certainly looks to be taking place at Shell Cottage. Shouldn't they already know about the hallows from Xeno by this point? In the books, I thought Ollivander doesn't know about the hallows, other than the Elder Wand. To me it raises a few questions? What benefit would it give the film to have them learn this from him, rather than Xeno? When I first saw this I thought they might be skipping the Lovegood house altogether, but we've definitely seen pics and info from there. What will they do at the Lovegood house other than be attacked if the Hallows aren't explained? Assuming the split is around when the trio are captured, Shell cottage would be in the second film... how can they have a "Deathly Hallows Part 1" if they don't even know about the Hallows until the second film?

2) in the "Forest Again" scenes... is anyone else bothered by the fact that Nagini is nowhere to be seen in any of the shots? Shouldn't LV be guarding his snake with the utmost care at this point? I thought maybe it could be an effect they add in post production, but the more I think about it, that's a huge thing to add after it's already been in the trailer, and the way the pictures are framed I don't see how they would fit it in.

I'm new here (yes, bandwagonner) so my apologies if these have been covered elsewhere and I couldn't find it. If so, please point me in the right direction.

:welcome:

I think the explanation about the "rumors" from Ollivander is going to be used at the beginning of part 2 as a means to recap what happened in part 1. From what I can tell, they aren't changing the fact that he didn't know the Hallows were real. In the book, Ollivander knew that the wand was real, but he didn't know about the Hallows as a group. In the film, it appears that he will know the wand is real, but believe that the Hallows as a group is a myth with "rumors" that there are three. I don't think that's too much of a deviation with him not believing that the cloak and the stone are real. I think the primary explanation will come from Xenophilius in part 1.

I think Nagini in her enchanted bubble will likely be a digital effect because it's supposed to be floating in the air. I don't think all of that footage is completely finished in terms of special effects because a lot of the part 2 footage - especially the final battle - was filmed fairly recently. We had that with one of the early trailers for OOTP as well - a shot of the Ministry decrees breaking and falling off the wall in the trailer turned out to be part of the sequence with the twins setting off the fireworks. The finished shot had the effects of the fireworks added to it. From the appearance of that shot, I'm wondering if the lighting is supposed to be due to her enchanted bubble. Just guessing, but I can almost see her in a glowing bubble above them, giving that soft white light to the area. It could be moonlight, but that part of the forest is supposed to be the most dense with the trees blocking out the sky so I wonder if the lighting might come from Nagini's enchanted bubble in the finished film.

:tu: I have said I did not like it, and I will say it again. I am being optimistic and waiting to see the scene as a whole not just this bit they show ( no I dont want to see it now, I want to see it in the film ) I have been told several times the spells are just coliding, but when a spell colides , wont it bounce back fast enough, IN the scene it somehow seems once again there is a connection and Harry is being powerful enough :rollseyes: to stand up to Voldemort´s spell. I did say I will shut up about it and I will. I will wait till we see it complete. But I stand up to what I say, I hope they have kept is as it was in the book cause it was perfectly written, the rest of the battle will have loads of action , adding more action in this dule which was purely verbal will simply ruin it. IMO. I am shutting up now. don´t jump on me once again, I am shuttin up.

I'm finding it difficult to be optimistic because that sequence in the trailer is already much longer than it should be, IMO. The spells should be an instantaneous effect - cast, rebound with flames, the wand flies into the air, Voldemort is dead. That's what I want to see. The rest of that scene should only be the two of them circling each other like gunslingers with Voldemort posturing and Harry taunting him and calling him "Tom".

What sticks out to me is that the spells are not colliding in that shot. They are connected. That's a big difference to me. A collision would be over in seconds because the spells would bounce off of each other and that would be it. The spells connecting is an entirely different effect with Harry and Voldemort maintaining that connection like they did in GOF. I call it the Priori Incantatem effect because that connection is necessary to produce the reverse spell effect once one of them has pushed their beam of light into the others wand. What is bugging me is the spells connecting and the two of them maintaining that connection. That should only happen with brother wands.

Harry Potter fans are never happy, well... we are happy when we get the film as a whole. Some of us are. Having scenes leaked of in the trailers gives us plenty of time to assimilate changes, to vent out emotions , to discuss and all of it enables us to watch the film and then love it. I think I can speak for me and some of my friends when I say, after discussing scene by scene of HBP and saying what we loved or hated about the pics we got, when we saw the film at last , we all loved it. AND we were pretty happy with it:)

It does help to be prepared for the disappointing scenes. I wouldn't say that I am ever entirely happy with the films - even the first film, which is my absolute favorite, has a few things that bug me - but I do enjoy watching PS/SS, COS, GOF, OOTP, and HBP overall. Knowing which scenes are likely to be disappointing does help - especially with taking my kids because I know which scenes will be good for bathroom trips. :lol:

:agree: crosses fingers.

*Crosses fingers and toes* ;)

I reread that bit today , and I was hoping , praying they did not cut it, but leave it . That duel Snape vs.Mgonagall its so great in the book. I hope they keep it.

I hope they keep that too. I think that is a significant moment - quite apart from Harry going to see the diadem in Ravenclaw tower and what happens there, it is significant towards Snape's story arc because that was the ideal moment for him to reveal himself and carry out Dumbledore's instructions to tell Harry what he needed to know. All he had to do was surrender and tell McGonagall that Dumbledore's portrait could confirm everything. But he chooses to fight and run instead. That always stood out as a significant moment for me.

And the duel itself was awesome - McGonagall rocks! :D

And about Harry´s Bedroom, I was rereading and Harry gets all emotional just being infront of the graves , being inside his old house would be too much. But I guess it is an effort to make it even more dramatic. But once again we are jumping into conclusions . Who knows, maybe they have a kiddies room in Bathilda´s house, it would not make any sense but it could be. ( I am trying to be positive )

Yeah, I'm trying not to be too skeptical about that because we don't know where he is yet. I'll wait until I see the scene in context for my final judgment. But, if that is supposed to be the Potters' house, it just doesn't look right to me. It wouldn't bother me if they changed the location, but if that is the case, they should make it believable with the nursery being damaged and dirty from the explosion all those years ago as well as standing unoccupied for all those years.

Hagrid told Dumbledore that the house was almost destroyed on the night it happened and Harry notes that there is rubble all around in the grass with the top right side of the house blown apart and figures out that was where the curse was cast - which would be where his room was. That's what I would prefer to see - and the sign because it was so poignant.

On this spot, on the night of 31 October 1981,
Lily and James Potter lost their lives.
Their son, Harry, remains the only wizard
ever to have survived the Killing Curse.
This house, invisible to Muggles, has been left
in its ruined state as a monument to the Potters
and as a reminder of the violence
that tore apart their family.

I was nearly in tears reading that. The wizarding world intentionally left the house in its ruined state as a monument to the Potters - I think that should be shown. Having it repaired and preserved like some kind of glossy museum just doesn't feel right to me.

its never late to post your thougths meesha, like Vince said , you usually voice out what some of us want to say in a coherent and fluent way. I usually put too much heart in my posts or manage to poorly say the turmoil of thought in my head. Your posts are usually awesome , dont worry about the lateness, do keep posting.:tu:

Awww, thank you. :blush:

And you keep posting too. I always enjoy what you have to say so don't shut up. ;)

The people doing the films have added many little details in what we have seen and saw in HBP. I am rereading the Hogwarts battle, there are so many things in it I hope are kept in.
Mgonagall bewitching the armors and get them fighting.
Proffessor Sprout and her plants, the whole Gryffindor team re joining to fight.
Also , that moment when Pancy Parkinson shrieks that Harry is there and everyone stands up to protect Harry. All these little details that normally would not make it due to time restrictions, but now that they have the time. Do you think they will include them?

Oh definitely. The final battle had some of the best parts of the entire series - that has to be the most creative and engaging battle sequence I have ever read in a book. I was riveted. I want to see McGonagall enchanting the suits of armor as well as that moment when the desks go running past Harry with McGonagall shouting "Charge!" I've always loved McGonagall, but she was just spectacular in DH. Professor Sprout was great too - offensive Herbology! I'd like to see the Venamous Tentacula roaming around the battle grabbing Death Eaters. I hope that we'll see Trelawney lobbing crystal balls at the Death Eaters since Emma Thompson did do some filming.

I think that moment where Pansy shrieks for someone to grab Harry and everyone stands against her is significant so they should include it. That scene in general is good for a lead in to the start of the battle because it shows them getting ready and the younger students are evacuated. The moment with Pansy demonstrates their unity in the face of a common enemy. They're not going to give up and they're not going to turn against Harry just to save themselves. They're going to fight with Harry. Wonderful moment. They should definitely include that.

Actually the thing i liked the most about the scene is that it echoed the line from the end of OotP. I really liked that scene at the end of OotP.

That struck me when I heard that line as well. I think it fits because there were a lot of those little moments in DH that echoed events from the previous books and that really tied it all together while reading DH. I've always hoped they would do the same with the film to tie the film series together like the books. This line is really good because it echoes OOTP. I hope there are other things like that.

I'm still not sure about the actual scene because it still seems very weird for Voldemort to have Harry completely bound and helpless and then just let him go to duel, but I love the dialog there.

november needs to hurry up and get here

I share your aniticipation since I want so badly to see the film open (HOPEFULLY) with the death of Charity and Nagini's eating her maybe then leading to the open credits??:drool:


I mean I could see Nagini do one of those things where she opens here mouth in dead Charity's POV and eats the camera flashing us to the main titles or something like that.:D It would be amusing.

I share your aniticipation since I want so badly to see the film open (HOPEFULLY) with the death of Charity and Nagini's eating her maybe then leading to the open credits??:drool:


I mean I could Nagini do one of those things where she opens here mouth in dead Charity's POV and eats the camera flashing us to the main titles or something like that.:D It would be amusing.

If they were to do it before the opening credits, I think they may have Voldemort say "Dinner Nagini" or even say something in Parseltongue, then you see Nagini slithering towards Charity Burgate and as she reaches her the camera pans out through a window and we move on to the credits.

lol, I can't believe people are still going on about the final duel! I thought we all established that Heyman has been quoted saying that the duel between Harry and Voldy has been extended:

"Harry and Voldemort go wand to wand in the courtyard, and we get to destroy Hogwarts," says Heyman. "It's a mess in there. We probably made a little more of the battle between the two of them (than in the book). We felt we needed to dramatize it."

Yes in an ideal world we'd have a canon version of the book as a film. But at the end of the day, it's a movie, they're going to want to make the last fight epic. And going from the trailer, I for one have no problems with what they've done.

lol, I can't believe people are still going on about the final duel! I thought we all established that Heyman has been quoted saying that the duel between Harry and Voldy has been extended:



Yes in an ideal world we'd have a canon version of the book as a film. But at the end of the day, it's a movie, they're going to want to make the last fight epic. And going from the trailer, I for one have no problems with what they've done.

im totally with you guys the scene looks awesome and i wish we could all just move on. i feel like we,ve discussed this issue to death. Its not going to happen like it did in the book lets move on!!!

I share your aniticipation since I want so badly to see the film open (HOPEFULLY) with the death of Charity and Nagini's eating her maybe then leading to the open credits??:drool:


I mean I could see Nagini do one of those things where she opens here mouth in dead Charity's POV and eats the camera flashing us to the main titles or something like that.:D It would be amusing.

actually its been hinted at that the film will open with The Minister of Magic Giving a speech about how times will grow Darker

actually its been hinted at that the film will open with The Minister of Magic Giving a speech about how times will grow Darker

Yeah, I remember reading that. However, I also read that it will open with Dumbledore falling off the Tower as a flashback. But that info may have come from Dream or another questionable source, so I'm not counting on it.

i dont see Deathly Hallows opening up with a flashback i think it will open with the minister giving a speech

Hello everyone. :) Well, I'm new here. I've read the thread and I've found your discussions very interesting, so I thought I'd like to join in. :tu: :)

Yeah, I remember reading that. However, I also read that it will open with Dumbledore falling off the Tower as a flashback. But that info may have come from Dream or another questionable source, so I'm not counting on it.

Hmm. I'm not sure. I think Dream did say that once, but I don't believe him. He says he works in the Art department, yet he has visited that new Hogwarts bridge set?? I don't think people from the Art Department visit sets at all, so I'm sceptical of him. :shrug:

I think I'd prefer if the film opened with the usual going through the clouds toward the WB logo, maybe with echoed voices of things like Scrimgeour being announced Minister (since that wasn't covered in HBP) and things like how the world isn't safe anymore, Voldemort is on the rise. Then show the death eater meeting, ending with "Dinner, Nagini" and cue awesome foreboding score with the HP logo. :D Just my idea.

That struck me when I heard that line as well. I think it fits because there were a lot of those little moments in DH that echoed events from the previous books and that really tied it all together while reading DH. I've always hoped they would do the same with the film to tie the film series together like the books. This line is really good because it echoes OOTP. I hope there are other things like that.

Agreed. :agree: One of the things that used to annoy me about HP films was that in films 1-4, there was very little references to what had already happened beforehand. I like how since OotP, things have been tied together a little more.

november needs to hurry up and get here

Definately! Accio! :D

i dont see Deathly Hallows opening up with a flashback i think it will open with the minister giving a speech

But there was this (http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/rupert-grint-talks-wild-target-beard-bill-nighy-attend-deathly-hallows-premiere-73955/) report in which Bill Nighy said all his scenes were with the trio, which would seem to rule this scenario out. But then we saw a flash of his eyes and the shoot with the photographers in the HBP sneak peak, so either the person in front of the cameras isn't Scrimgeour and the shot of the eyes is from a different scene or that oparicular scene has slipped his mind.

Hello everyone. :) Well, I'm new here. I've read the thread and I've found your discussions very interesting, so I thought I'd like to join in. :tu: :)

:welcome:

ABC better show never before seen footage as promised, if they just show the trailer again I wont be too pleased.

And PLEASE let the footage shown be from Part 1, and not Part 2!

I need this footage uploaded online ASAP. Too bad us UK folks don't get ABC Family :(

I want to see McGonagall enchanting the suits of armor as well as that moment when the desks go running past Harry with McGonagall shouting "Charge!" I've always loved McGonagall, but she was just spectacular in DH. Professor Sprout was great too - offensive Herbology! I'd like to see the Venamous Tentacula roaming around the battle grabbing Death Eaters. I hope that we'll see Trelawney lobbing crystal balls at the Death Eaters since Emma Thompson did do some filming.
I was reading that part last night, and I kept thinking , Ooooh I want this part in too!:lol:And you keep posting too. I always enjoy what you have to say so don't shut up.

awww, you are nice.Thanks for your words Meesha:)
I go back to work tomorrow , so despite the fact I will keep up with news, ( at least try ) My Science class will have my head busy and I wont post as often (some in here will be glad ) but you wont get rid of me that easily, I am sorry, I ma quite a fan. And PLEASE let the footage shown be from Part 1, and not Part 2!


down on knees , preeeety pleeeeease!I share your aniticipation since I want so badly to see the film open (HOPEFULLY) with the death of Charity and Nagini's eating her maybe then leading to the open credits??

She has been cast, so perhaps it is included , maybe not as opening but it is in, somehow.:) That part was disturbing , but it does show the degree of evil , so I am hoping it gets included.I think that moment where Pansy shrieks for someone to grab Harry and everyone stands against her is significant so they should include it. That scene in general is good for a lead in to the start of the battle because it shows them getting ready and the younger students are evacuated. The moment with Pansy demonstrates their unity in the face of a common enemy. They're not going to give up and they're not going to turn against Harry just to save themselves. They're going to fight with Harry. Wonderful moment. They should definitely include that.

If I had to choose , of all those wonderful moments, I would stick with this one. But I do hope all of them are included, Yates did say it lasted 20 or 30 minutes ,I read that in the list , so that gives them plenty of time, if that time is just for the battle. If it is fpr the whole ending part maybe it is too short and they will cut all of this. Decarus , do you recall to which part is he refering to ?
When I get home I will check that , now ... of to teach Science!:)

I'm still not sure about the actual scene because it still seems very weird for Voldemort to have Harry completely bound and helpless and then just let him go to duel, but I love the dialog there.

I agree that the actual scene with Harry tied up is a little weird. I have no idea how Harry gets out of it. I do like the line though.

lol, I can't believe people are still going on about the final duel! I thought we all established that Heyman has been quoted saying that the duel between Harry and Voldy has been extended:

Yes in an ideal world we'd have a canon version of the book as a film. But at the end of the day, it's a movie, they're going to want to make the last fight epic. And going from the trailer, I for one have no problems with what they've done.

I think the point of the thread is to discuss the Deathly Hallows films. Nothing can be over discussed because that is the entire point of the thread, over discussion.

Also while we may have been aware that the duel was going to be extended for a year now, it is different now that we have actually seen it. You are, of course, more then welcome to say that you are fine with the change just as i am more then welcome to say i am slight leery of the change. You can, of course, disagree with me, but i don't think it makes sense to say that i should stop saying it since the entire point of the thread is to over discuss the Deathly Hallows films.

PS.

Well here is the Heyman quote (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/7/16/heyman-on-length-of-battle-of-hogwarts-for-deathly-hallows-probably-be-30-minutes) that i think you are referring to:
The ending of Book 7 is really climatic in so many ways. Is that going to be like a 20-minute part of the movie or a 30-minute part of the movie? Have you guys already started thinking about that? DAVID HEYMAN: Absolutely. I mean we’ve got a script version of it. I think it’ll probably be 30 minutes, they get to Hogwarts fairly early on, but there’s a lot of build up before the battle happens, you know? And there are 2 parts to the battle. There’s the first part and then there’s the post-death of Harry part, if you know what I mean.

I know exactly what you mean. DAVID HEYMAN: Yeah, so in a way there’s a couple of different parts to that battle.

I think he means once the battle begins because he mentions the build up before the battle. I think the build up would be finding out about the diadem, Ron/Hermione kiss, the fiendfyre scene, evacuating the castle, and then the battle would begin and then after harry's death would be more battle. I think that he just means the actual battle parts and not all the scenes at Hogwarts.

Well here is the Heyman quote (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/7/16/heyman-on-length-of-battle-of-hogwarts-for-deathly-hallows-probably-be-30-minutes) that i think you are referring to:

I think he means once the battle begins because he mentions the build up before the battle. I think the build up would be finding out about the diadem, Ron/Hermione kiss, the fiendfyre scene, evacuating the castle, and then the battle would begin and then after harry's death would be more battle. I think that he just means the actual battle parts and not all the scenes at Hogwarts.

I think that's what he means too. :agree: Also, I think Tom Felton said at some stage that the battle was an hour long, so hopefully that means a half hour build up, then a half hour of battling. :)


How do you guys think they will handle the scene before the battle where everyone meets up (I think in the Room of Requirement wasn't it?), do you think they'll show Percy being welcomed back by the Weasleys? :shrug: I loved that scene in the book, it was really cute, but they never showed Percy leaving the family in the earlier films?

I haven't seen the commercial for it yet (and I dunno if it is on youtube or online), but someone on IMDB said they saw the commercial on ABC Family for the Harry Potter weekend, and apparently it showed a brief Behind the scenes shot of the Battle of Hogwarts. So it looks like we'll definitely get some stuff.

I'm definitely going to watch it this whole weekend. My birthday is on Saturday, so great present! :D

I think that's what he means too. :agree: Also, I think Tom Felton said at some stage that the battle was an hour long, so hopefully that means a half hour build up, then a half hour of battling. :)

I agree that the parts at Hogwarts all together should take at least an hour or more. They should be around half the film. It sort of depends on where the split is going to be at.

How do you guys think they will handle the scene before the battle where everyone meets up (I think in the Room of Requirement wasn't it?), do you think they'll show Percy being welcomed back by the Weasleys? :shrug: I loved that scene in the book, it was really cute, but they never showed Percy leaving the family in the earlier films?

I am not sure if they will have a scene quite like they had in the book since like you said they never really showed Percy leaving or discussed his character. I guess if they left the bit in where he was at the Ministry when the trio infiltrated then it could make sense when he comes back. In this interview (http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/exclusive-snitchseeker-interviews-chris-rankin-talks-percy-weasley-deathly-hallows-71533/) he talks a little bit about his character. I don't know.

On his character Percy. CHRIS RANKIN: Now in this film we are seeing almost the reverse. Seeing Percy become quite a humble, apologetic character. A whole new change. And seeing how that effects his relationship with his family is quite enjoyable.

Which Percy have you like playing the most? CHRIS RANKIN: I'm actually quite enjoying this Percy. Mostly because it's the one that's challenged me the most as an actor. There's a lot of emotion and obviously with the underlying theme of the loss of his brother and we see Bill with his scars and George without his ear, all this kind of stuff and all of the terrible things that have happened to the family. Seeing the underlying emotion in Percy that comes across from the 'oh my God, I ran away from my family' and here they are...the family is falling apart. You know I think there's almost a little bit of guilt from Percy that what if I had been there to protect them would that have helped.

Also while we may have been aware that the duel was going to be extended for a year now, it is different now that we have actually seen it. You are, of course, more then welcome to say that you are fine with the change just as i am more then welcome to say i am slight leery of the change. You can, of course, disagree with me, but i don't think it makes sense to say that i should stop saying it since the entire point of the thread is to over discuss the Deathly Hallows films.

My quote is from here:

http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/new-harry-vs-voldemort-final-battle-photos-harry-hagrid-deathly-hallows-promos-74196/

How is it different now that we've seen it? Surely it's counter-productive to the discussion if people are going to continually discuss a section of the film which as you said, people have known for a year about that it was going to be extended - but yet are talking about a version that isn't going to be in the film. That's just setting yourself up to be disappointed in my eyes.

Now I can understand if people are discussing the whole Great Hall aspect of it, because from the trailer, that doesn't appear to happen, which is a shame, but again, for cinematic purposes, the powers that be have decided to go for another approach. Or it could be just one part of the duel and it does end up the Great Hall, we just don't know.

But I'm beginning to repeat myself from v4 of this thread so probably best I duck out now.

Many people here seem to think that the few seconds of Snape that we are shown in the trailer are of his death scene.

I disagree. I think it looks like the clip is in Hogwarts, and it may be a portion of the duel with McGonnagal, maybe he's in the middle of dodging one of her spells or those daggers she hurls at him?

What do you all think?

I am not sure if they will have a scene quite like they had in the book since like you said they never really showed Percy leaving or discussed his character. I guess if they left the bit in where he was at the Ministry when the trio infiltrated then it could make sense when he comes back. In this interview (http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/exclusive-snitchseeker-interviews-chris-rankin-talks-percy-weasley-deathly-hallows-71533/) he talks a little bit about his character. I don't know. Percy's no-show at Bill and Fleur's Wedding could be a good reason to introduce some friction between him and the rest of the Weasley's and there is also his behaviour towards his father (and vice-versa) at the Ministry which could re-affirm this.

How is it different now that we've seen it? Surely it's counter-productive to the discussion if people are going to continually discuss a section of the film which as you said, people have known for a year about that it was going to be extended - but yet are talking about a version that isn't going to be in the film. That's just setting yourself up to be disappointed in my eyes.There is room for discussion on this matter as we've only seen about 7 seconds of this duel (so we don't really know what is and what isn't in) so theres a reasonable chance we'll all be happy. :)

In a way of quickly rectifying omissions from earlier movies, I was thinking DH would probably start with Dumbledore's funeral. You get closure that was missing from HBP, (and see his tomb, which is important later). It also gives them the opportunity to reintroduce Dobby with the trio and Scrimgeour could say a few words as a eulogy so you know he's the MoM.

The quick scene with the camera flashes puts this in doubt though. I'm not sure how that fits in... it looks like they'll introduce Rufus some other way. Starting DH with that scene and some sort of speech would be sort of a parallel to the opening of HPB when Harry and Dumbledore opened in front of the cameras.

I'm wondering if the whole 'look at me' line will happen considering the green eyes of harry and his mother have been completely played down [or really, completely left out].

I'm wondering if the whole 'look at me' line will happen considering the green eyes of harry and his mother have been completely played down [or really, completely left out].

They have not been completely left out. They were referenced in more than one movie, most recently in HBP.

At any rate, to many readers, that line's meaning was uncertain in the death scene, and the interpretation that Snape wanted to die looking into Lily's eyes one last time suggested itself once they had read "The Prince's Tale". It seems to me it could work this way in the movie too.

Yes, but harry doesnt have green eyes in the movies so it doesnt really make sense.

Yes, but harry doesnt have green eyes in the movies so it doesnt really make sense.

The colour of Harry's eyes in the films is not what matters. :)

It has been mentioned in several films that he has his mother's eyes. That's what matters.

So it will make sense. :)

Yes, but harry doesnt have green eyes in the movies so it doesnt really make sense.

You're right, Daniel Radcliffe does have blue eyes- I'm also sure the actress who has and will play Lily Evans (well, the adult version of her) has blue eyes, too? Perhaps it'll be blue eyes and not green?

Anyway, I think we should have faith in JK Rowling- if it was really that significant for the eyes to be green, I'm sure she would have insisted for Daniel to wear some sort of coloured contact lenses.

Percy's no-show at Bill and Fleur's Wedding could be a good reason to introduce some friction between him and the rest of the Weasley's and there is also his behaviour towards his father (and vice-versa) at the Ministry which could re-affirm this.

You're right! :huh: Haha I didn't think about that. *facepalm* :lol: But yeah, that would work nicely. I really hope they do that, it would make those Battle of Hogwarts scenes that bit more dramatic.

I am not sure if they will have a scene quite like they had in the book since like you said they never really showed Percy leaving or discussed his character. I guess if they left the bit in where he was at the Ministry when the trio infiltrated then it could make sense when he comes back. In this interview (http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/exclusive-snitchseeker-interviews-chris-rankin-talks-percy-weasley-deathly-hallows-71533/) he talks a little bit about his character. I don't know.

Judging by what Chris says about Percy, it should be pretty promising, whatever they do. :agree:

I'm wondering if the whole 'look at me' line will happen considering the green eyes of harry and his mother have been completely played down [or really, completely left out].

I'd imagine it would be, just so as to not annoy the many die-hard Snape fans. I guess they will just have Snape explain by saying "You have your mothers eyes" before asking Harry to look at him. They could even parallel HBP by having Harry cut him off and finish the sentence before him, like he did with Slughorn. I hope so anyway, or a lot of people won't be pleased. :scared:

All very true! Well I do hope its left in as I'm now sure it will be aha. :]

I'd imagine it would be, just so as to not annoy the many die-hard Snape fans. I guess they will just have Snape explain by saying "You have your mothers eyes" before asking Harry to look at him. They could even parallel HBP by having Harry cut him off and finish the sentence before him, like he did with Slughorn. I hope so anyway, or a lot of people won't be pleased. :scared:

I've not watched Half Blood Prince in a while, so I'm not sure when Harry finish a sentence for Slughorn.

However, are you meaning that Snape's death scene, will be something like Snape saying: "Look-" and then Harry cutting him of with "-at me"? :hmm: I don't really see the significance or parallel to that.

Or are you thinking that Snape's last words will be something completely different to the book?

You're right, Daniel Radcliffe does have blue eyes- I'm also sure the actress who has and will play Lily Evans (well, the adult version of her) has blue eyes, too? Perhaps it'll be blue eyes and not green?

Geraldine Somerville has blue eyes. ;)

Anyway, I think we should have faith in JK Rowling- if it was really that significant for the eyes to be green, I'm sure she would have insisted for Daniel to wear some sort of coloured contact lenses.

JKR is quoted somewhere as indicating that Daniel, at age eleven, found wearing contact lenses painful. :cool: She was not about to insist that a young boy wear something that made him uncomfortable. :)

The main thing is that the audience knows that Harry has his mother's eyes. :tu:

I'd imagine it would be, just so as to not annoy the many die-hard Snape fans. I guess they will just have Snape explain by saying "You have your mothers eyes" before asking Harry to look at him. They could even parallel HBP by having Harry cut him off and finish the sentence before him, like he did with Slughorn. I hope so anyway, or a lot of people won't be pleased. :scared:

Speaking as a die hard Snape fan (could you tell from my siggy/avi? :rotfl: ), there is no need for Snape to explain his last request as he is dying. I hope he doesn't, he is supposed to be painfully choking on his own blood (from the terrible snake bite in his neck), and barely able to utter words of one syllable, e. g. "Take it" and "Look at me". In the book, there is no explanation offered for this request. I do not think the movie needs one.

Hopefully the movie's presentation of Snape's backstory, however it is done, will provide reasons for the audience to decide for themselves what this line means.

Geraldine Somerville has blue eyes. ;)


JKR is quoted somewhere as indicating that Daniel, at age eleven, found wearing contact lenses painful. :cool: She was not about to insist that a young boy wear something that made him uncomfortable. :)

The main thing is that the audience knows that Harry has his mother's eyes. :tu:

Ah, thanks for clearing that up. I suppose, if she insisted for green eyes, they could use some digital enhancement things to change the colour- but, yes, I agree, the main thing is that Harry has is mother's eyes and not what colour they are.


Originally posted by arithmancer
Speaking as a die hard Snape fan (could you tell from my siggy/avi? ), there is no need for Snape to explain his last request as he is dying. I hope he doesn't, he is supposed to be painfully choking on his own blood (from the terrible snake bite in his neck), and barely able to utter words of one syllable, e. g. "Take it" and "Look at me". In the book, there is no explanation offered for this request. I do not think the movie needs one.

Hopefully the movie's presentation of Snape's backstory, however it is done, will provide reasons for the audience to decide for themselves what this line means.

Oh, now I know what Filmgirl27 meant, thank you. :)

Hmm, I wonder if they will cut out "Look at me" after all? Going with Filmgirl27's idea, Harry could already be looking at Snape and all the man could say could be: "Your...eyes..." and then Harry would reply, probably on automatic pilot: "My mother's eyes, yeah."

I don't honestly mind what Snape's last words are, as long as they tie in with Harry and Lily's eyes and the last thing he does is looking into them.

I don't think they need to have Snape bring that up. Personally, I think "Look at me." has more than one meaning anyway. I'd like it to just be those words. Those words say what needs to be said.

I don't think it's necessary because it's been brought up in the previous film and in other films, but someone earlier in the DH film might make mention of Harry's eyes or they might illustrate it somehow by showing Harry and his mother in a way that emphasizes the fact that they have the same color eyes.

I'll probably be delighted by any death scene acted by Rickman, as I am not a purist. :lol: However, I am very fond of the "Look at me" line exactly as written. It is ambiguous in a way any reference to Lily/Harry's eyes is not. "Look at me" can and has been taken by readers who had not guessed the truth, to mean Snape was asking Harry to see the memories and see Snape as he had actually been. Even though I am sure he did want to look at Harry's eyes...I still like this alternate/additional meaning of the line.

Erm, what boushh said! (I type slowly). :lol:

If one is able to cap te commercial that's been airing and could put it online that'd be great! Or if anyone finds it online.

I'll probably be delighted by any death scene acted by Rickman, as I am not a purist. :lol: However, I am very fond of the "Look at me" line exactly as written. It is ambiguous in a way any reference to Lily/Harry's eyes is not. "Look at me" can and has been taken by readers who had not guessed the truth, to mean Snape was asking Harry to see the memories and see Snape as he had actually been. Even though I am sure he did want to look at Harry's eyes...I still like this alternate/additional meaning of the line.

Erm, what boushh said! (I type slowly). :lol:

Well you did go into more detail than I did. :D

I'll probably be delighted by any death scene acted by Rickman, as I am not a purist. :lol: However, I am very fond of the "Look at me" line exactly as written. It is ambiguous in a way any reference to Lily/Harry's eyes is not. "Look at me" can and has been taken by readers who had not guessed the truth, to mean Snape was asking Harry to see the memories and see Snape as he had actually been. Even though I am sure he did want to look at Harry's eyes...I still like this alternate/additional meaning of the line.

Erm, what boushh said! (I type slowly). :lol:

That's a nice double meaning to what he said. :) And like you, I'm probably going to like (well, obviously I won't "like" Snape's death scene) and regard the scene as memorable just because I feel Alan Rickman's going to give us a splendid performance, as he always does, in my opinion. :)

@FutureAuthor13: Yeah, that's what I meant. Sorry if I didn't make it very clear, I mess up on words a lot. :lol:

Anyway, I think Snape's last words will need a certain amount of change just to make sure non-readers get the jist of what it means. It would be great if it was just "Look at me", but for many people I doubt they would get the reference and therefore the scene wouldn't have as much of an effect on them. By adding in "Your eyes??" "My mother's eyes, yeah" beforehand, the audience would understand and there would be another nice little parallel. Just my opinion. :)

@FutureAuthor13: Yeah, that's what I meant. Sorry if I didn't make it very clear, I mess up on words a lot. :lol:

Anyway, I think Snape's last words will need a certain amount of change just to make sure non-readers get the jist of what it means. It would be great if it was just "Look at me", but for many people I doubt they would get the reference and therefore the scene wouldn't have as much of an effect on them. By adding in "Your eyes??" "My mother's eyes, yeah" beforehand, the audience would understand and there would be another nice little parallel. Just my opinion. :)

No problem. :) Yes, I quite like that idea- and many non-readers would understand the scene better, in my opinion, and it would make it a lot more emotional for them.

One things for certain: I think Alan Rickman will be outstanding in Deathly Hallows. :D:clap:

Just saw the commercial. Really quick glimpse of bts of the battle, some stuff from te trailer, and also from previous movies

Percy's no-show at Bill and Fleur's Wedding could be a good reason to introduce some friction between him and the rest of the Weasley's and there is also his behaviour towards his father (and vice-versa) at the Ministry which could re-affirm this.

That is true they could have some dialogue about him not being at the wedding. I do wonder if they will just leave all of that out because they have so far and just have him appear at the battle and be with his family at the end. I don't know.

There is room for discussion on this matter as we've only seen about 7 seconds of this duel (so we don't really know what is and what isn't in) so theres a reasonable chance we'll all be happy. :)

I certainly agree that there is room for discussion. We just don't know enough about the duel at this point.

PS. If anyone gets the commercial for the abc family that would be great.

One things for certain: I think Alan Rickman will be outstanding in Deathly Hallows. :D:clap:

Haha that's a given anyway. :agree: He's a fantastic actor who's done Snape real justice. Can't wait to see his acting in DH.

That is true they could have some dialogue about him not being at the wedding. I do wonder if they will just leave all of that out because they have so far and just have him appear at the battle and be with his family at the end. I don't know.

Ah, oh no oh no. That wouldn't be as good at all. Well, I guess it would be okay, I could live with it, but I'd much rather they at least talked about how he's been treating the family beforehand. Just flesh out Percy a bit somehow. It would make the scenes like what happens to Fred ( :upset:) more dramatic.


PS: Could someone get the ABC advert online? Excited... :D

Someone at the other forum mentioned that it sounds like someone is screaming George in the Lego footage during the part where Ron is attacking the locket with the sword.

Lego Footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rp07JGbVPg)

Someone at the other forum mentioned that it sounds like someone is screaming George in the Lego footage during the part where Ron is attacking the locket with the sword.

Lego Footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rp07JGbVPg)

Oh...wow, that does sound like "George!" But, it may be Harry screaming "Ron!" or Ron's scream when stabbing the locket...

I for one, think it sounds like "George!" Did you hear someone crying "No!" right after that? It sounds like the same person who uttered "George!"

For some reason, I think it sounds like Percy... :hmm:

Someone at the other forum mentioned that it sounds like someone is screaming George in the Lego footage during the part where Ron is attacking the locket with the sword.

Lego Footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rp07JGbVPg)

Oh gosh you're right. :wow: I had thought it sounded like "Charge!" or that it was just some sort of random roar Ron makes when he charges at the locket, but I guess not. It sounds a lot like Arthur is yelling it. :hmm: If it really is someone yelling "George!" it sounds heart wrenching.. :sad:

I think it could be Arthur yelling ''George'' after they have come back from the 7 Potters and George has his ear blasted off.

In regards to Snape's death and Harry's eyes:

I think "Look...at...me" has more meaning in the books because of how many times it was emphasized that Harry has Lily's eyes. While they included a reference to this in some of the films, I don't think the line will have the same impact in the DH film.

To drive the point home, I think it would be good for them to either add to the line or change it completely. I'd prefer to see Snape say, "You have...your mother's...eyes..." instead. The audience will wonder why he cares about that (if they don't figure it out), it provides another reference to Lily and Harry's eyes looking the same, and when its revealed that Snape loved Lily in TPT, it will add a ton of emotional weight to Snape's death. It's a more full-circle arc, IMO.

In regards to Snape's death and Harry's eyes:

I think "Look...at...me" has more meaning in the books because of how many times it was emphasized that Harry has Lily's eyes. While they included a reference to this in some of the films, I don't think the line will have the same impact in the DH film.

To drive the point home, I think it would be good for them to either add to the line or change it completely. I'd prefer to see Snape say, "You have...your mother's...eyes..." instead. The audience will wonder why he cares about that (if they don't figure it out), it provides another reference to Lily and Harry's eyes looking the same, and when its revealed that Snape loved Lily in TPT, it will add a ton of emotional weight to Snape's death. It's a more full-circle arc, IMO.

Yes, I'd love for that to happen- precisely as you described it. :) But, as I said before, Alan Rickman's acting will be, in my opinion, stunningly perfect, no matter what his last words are. :)

I think it could be Arthur yelling ''George'' after they have come back from the 7 Potters and George has his ear blasted off.

Good idea- it could be that! Or (I can't remember if George is present at the moment in the book) it could be when Fred is killed and George tries to duel/kill many Death Eaters and Arthur Weasley is crying out in concern, but it could be either of these scenes. We'll have to wait for the film to know for sure. :)

It kinda does sound like someone is yelling "George!" and then "No!!" shortly after. I never noticed that...I agree it sounds like Mr. Weasley. It could be whenever George and Lupin finally make it back to the Weasley's house. In the book, Lupin was struggling to carry George, whose face was bloody and Harry ran outside to help. If it is Mr. Weasley then that's the only place I can see because he was not involved in the rest of the 7 Potters scene and it doesn't make sense for him to yell George when Fred dies. I know they confuse their sons but that would seem a tacky moment to put that IMO.

. If it is Mr. Weasley then that's the only place I can see because he was not involved in the rest of the 7 Potters scene and it doesn't make sense for him to yell George when Fred dies. I know they confuse their sons but that would seem a tacky moment to put that IMO.

I was thinking along the lines of it being during Fred's death, but Mr Weasley doesn't mix their names up; George just tries to attack Death Eaters to immediately try and avenge Fred but his father is trying to stop him.

Just my opinion, but I do think it's extremely likely that it's a reference to the scene you mentioned, too. :)

Someone at the other forum mentioned that it sounds like someone is screaming George in the Lego footage during the part where Ron is attacking the locket with the sword.

Lego Footage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rp07JGbVPg)

I think it's "Charge!" not "George!" I just don't think they would insert any dialogue that's not related to Harry.

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I think it's "Charge!" not "George!" I just don't think they would insert any dialogue that's not related to Harry.

The only thing is, they slipped so many things into these trailers, probably wondering if we'd notice them. There are so many scenes that flash by so quickly that you might miss them unless you played it in slo-mo or paused it.
It could be "Charge!" for during the battle...but if it is Mr. Weasley, I am not sure where it would fit in the movie for him to say that. Any ideas?

I think it could be Arthur yelling ''George'' after they have come back from the 7 Potters and George has his ear blasted off.

I think that's the most likely option. Arthur did react like that in the book, I remember he kind of ran in all panicked. And they could frighten the non-readers with George lying on the ground with the blood on his face and Arthur yelling his name like that. :) I hope so.

The other options are that it's during the Battle of Hogwarts. Maybe George is there when Fred dies in the film? Then he could kind of go berserk wanting to avenge him and Arthur would try to stop him? I don't know. It would be cool though.

And then maybe it was just "Charge!!" instead of "George!!" :D I hope not, especially I hope Ron doesn't yell that while charging at the locket, that would be so corny. :D

I know they confuse their sons but that would seem a tacky moment to put that IMO.

LOL. They wouldn't do that! That is so cruel! That would totally completely ruin Fred's death scene!

Alan Rickman will be great, I think there is no doubt about that. If there is one actor who has really portrayed his character like I expected , that person is Allan Rickman.So I could bet , his death scene will be for sure outstanding. If there is one scene that does not worry me is this one cause I trust Alan Rickman.
I am worried about what they include in the Prince´s Tale, but Dan did state this scene was crucial to the story (or something like that) so I am thinking it will be very good as well.:)

I always imagined Snape's last words in the film to be something like this:

"Just....let...me see...her eyes...one last time. Harry...Look at me."


About the ABC Family thing..they are showing the battle? *sigh* It looks like it will be mostly part 2 stuff. I'm really really disappointed in WB.

like ive stated before harry potter fans are so fickle and never satisfied. so what that were seeing part 2 stuff? we should be thankful were seeing anything at all

like ive stated before harry potter fans are so fickle and never satisfied. so what that were seeing part 2 stuff? we should be thankful were seeing anything at all

To be quite honest, at this point I'd rather see nothing at all than a bunch of Part II battle stuff. Part II is still over a year away, and I want to remain visually unspoiled for the climatic scenes of the series.

So I'll do my best to not watch them. Except I doubt I'll be able to resist. :shrug:

I agree i would rather see nothing then see a bunch of Part 2 stuff.

I'm just not ready for part 2 stuff...it's over a year away and I don't really want to see too much of it at all. I want to save it for the film...sorry if that makes me a fickle whiny fan. :shrug:

I'd be more excited to see Part 1 footage at this point. There's just so much there! Godric's Hollow, Malfoy Manor, the Wedding, the Seven Potters, some of the camping, some of the Ministry infiltration, Magic is Might, Umbirdge, Graimmauld Place, Kreacher's Tale, DOBBY, etc etc etc.

WB just killed the suspense. We shouldn't have seen footage this early from such key scenes in part 2. I'd be more excited with a picture of the Dursleys in their final scene or something! Just stick with part 1 for now..it's almost 4 months away. Part 2 isn't for another year.

I'm just not ready for part 2 stuff...it's over a year away and I don't really want to see too much of it at all. I want to save it for the film...sorry if that makes me a fickle whiny fan. :shrug:

I'd be more excited to see Part 1 footage at this point. There's just so much there! Godric's Hollow, Malfoy Manor, the Wedding, the Seven Potters, some of the camping, some of the Ministry infiltration, Magic is Might, Umbirdge, Graimmauld Place, Kreacher's Tale, DOBBY, etc etc etc.

WB just killed the suspense. We shouldn't have seen footage this early from such key scenes in part 2. I'd be more excited with a picture of the Dursleys in their final scene or something! Just stick with part 1 for now..it's almost 4 months away. Part 2 isn't for another year.

I couldn't agree more! It's really frustrating seeing bits from Part 2 that we aren't going to see for another whole year! Are they going to release another trailer before Part 2 comes out? What else would they show that they haven't shown in the current one without giving too much away?

i would love to see some actual dueling inside the castle this aspect is whats most intrigued me as to how there going to present it.

I'm just not ready for part 2 stuff...it's over a year away and I don't really want to see too much of it at all. I want to save it for the film...sorry if that makes me a fickle whiny fan. :shrug:

I'd be more excited to see Part 1 footage at this point. There's just so much there! Godric's Hollow, Malfoy Manor, the Wedding, the Seven Potters, some of the camping, some of the Ministry infiltration, Magic is Might, Umbirdge, Graimmauld Place, Kreacher's Tale, DOBBY, etc etc etc.

WB just killed the suspense. We shouldn't have seen footage this early from such key scenes in part 2. I'd be more excited with a picture of the Dursleys in their final scene or something! Just stick with part 1 for now..it's almost 4 months away. Part 2 isn't for another year.

Just remember WB doesn't develop their marketing campaign primarily for people like you. You're going to be there for both films, regardless. At some point they'll be trying to get you to go multiple times, but that's not what these initial trailers and sneak peaks are for.

The goal is to build interest and awareness in people who otherwise wouldn't be showing up. Some percentage of people will be more interested in going to the last one because it's the last one and therefore an "event". Therefore, it is in their interest to add layers of interconnectedness to the two films (Title, posters, trailers) so that that "event" interest applies to both films instead of just one.

I suppose they have all sorts of marketing studies that show that action, confrontation, etc. have a greater impact on increasing attendance than shots showing more distant peril, travelling, character conflict etc. Otherwise, why is that sort of stuff featured in every trailer ever made?

Face it, they're trying to reach the casual fan and the non-fan, not you. And what do you think is going to catch the eye of those people more, and make them think "I need to get my butt into that seat 4 months from now - the 'event of a generation' starts in November!" - Voldemort threatening and dueling Harry, or the Dursleys hemming and hawing about leaving because they think the Order is trying to bilk them out of their house?

:hmm: Maybe I'm just too much of a cynic.

If they are trying to reach the casual movie-goer, they are blowing it. People are going to go into part 1 expecting the Harry and Voldemort confrontation. OR they will figure that the Harry/Voldemort stuff won't be until part 2 so they will skip part 1. Part 1 is the film they have to sell. Part 2 will draw people in just because it's the final HP movie.

Why do people always have to turn it around and make the fans sound like selfish, greedy twits when really we do care about the general audiences? I also don't want them to be too spoiled.

It's not so much that they are advertising both parts, that's fine. But they shouldn't make the marketing so slanted towards part 2 at this point.

In the Trailer at 1:35, Harry is bound up. This is the scene that has Voldemort saying, "why do you live?" while holding Harry's face. Ive read the books and I don't see how it would fit in the storyline well, can anyone think of a scenario where it would fit?

Saw the first bts. It was soo good!!

What did you see AccioHP?

What did you see AccioHP?

Interviews with Dan, Rupert, Emma, heyman, and yates

Malfoy manor- you can see hermione get away from bellatrix to Ron and she is screaming.
Hogwarts with the trio. Hermione and Ronholding eachother on hogwarts stairs. People fighting and running down the hill
Harry and hermione athis parents graves. Hermione pits her head on harry's shoulder.
Shell cottage.
Most of it was bts and not actual finished footage but it all looks amazing!!
There's probably more but I can't remember.
The first bit of footage is called "the Story". Just like hbp

Sounds pretty awesome!! I can't wait until SS starts for me so I can watch the DH stuff.

Interviews with Dan, Rupert, Emma, heyman, and yates

Malfoy manor- you can see hermione get away from bellatrix to Ron and she is screaming.
Hogwarts with the trio. Hermione and Ronholding eachother on hogwarts stairs. People fighting and running down the hill
Harry and hermione athis parents graves. Hermione pits her head on harry's shoulder.
Shell cottage.
Most of it was bts and not actual finished footage but it all looks amazing!!
There's probably more but I can't remember.
The first bit of footage is called "the Story". Just like hbp

Hmm so not much part 2 battle stuff? Maybe I "Can" watch this after all :D I mainly want to see the Malfoy Manor part.

Yeah that does sound much better then i thought. We actually got some new stuff. Thanks very much for the report.

Yeah I was expecting AccioHP to say that there was stuff from the battle as well. Maybe the next clips will have more about the battle. I'm slightly hesitant to watch but I'll most likely watch anyway.

Hmm so not much part 2 battle stuff? Maybe I "Can" watch this after all >:D

There was a bunch of battle stuff. Mostly people and the trio running around though

We see another angle of Ron on the ground moving away from the locket horcrux.
Harry in the snow in what looks like the outfit he is wearing during silver doe
Snape-it looks like the same scene that is in the trailer but different angle

That sounds amazing! I can't wait to see it. Hope it gets online soon :err:

Oh interesting! There are so many exciting scenes that I forgot about, The Silver Doe being one of them. That should be exciting. I also forgot about Hermione and Harry visiting the graves. That seems like it will be pretty emotional. And there is battle stuff?? Well...I can never stop myself from watching anything so I'll end up seeing it.

I saw it too! I was pleasantly surprised, it's not so part 2 centric thanks to the interviews. The interviews set the story for PART 1 so it keeps things part 1 centric even if we see some shots of the battle and the destroyed Hogwarts. There's a touching looking scene where Ron and Hermione are both sitting on the stairs in the entrance chamber and they are cuddling. They look like they are hopeless and despairing but giving each other comfort and love.

They also showed the infamous shot of the trio in their wedding clothes sprinting through London again but this time you can hear the sound of the traffic! It really adds to that shot.

There was a few other shots as well. I'm happy and relived it wasn't all about part 2. :tu:

I saw it too! I was pleasantly surprised, it's not so part 2 centric thanks to the interviews. The interviews set the story for PART 1 so it keeps things part 1 centric even if we see some shots of the battle and the destroyed Hogwarts. There's a touching looking scene where Ron and Hermione are both sitting on the stairs in the entrance chamber and they are cuddling. They look like they are hopeless and despairing but giving each other comfort and love.

They also showed the infamous shot of the trio in their wedding clothes sprinting through London again but this time you can hear the sound of the traffic! It really adds to that shot.

There was a few other shots as well. I'm happy and relived it wasn't all about part 2. :tu:
Yeah, I'm glad we got more stuff besides the battle. I thought everything looked amazing and it wasn't even finished scenes really.
The Ron/hermione moment is really touching. I wonder when that is.
I agree that the traffic noise adds to the scene of them running in their wedding clothes.
I need to seenit again! Lol

Someone on hpforrum posted a link to the footage but someone recorded it with a camera off their tv.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcqCPtkNu3g
I'm gonna wait to watch it again with a clearer version

That was awesome.

Click Link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcqCPtkNu3g)

Aw! The Ron/Hermione scene sounds great! I am getting anxious to see the clip now! And interviews are always good :)

Oh yay clip!! Thanks!!

All I can say is Wow, wow, wow!! The battle looks like it's going to be amazing!!!!

Maybe the part where Ron and Hermione are on the steps is after Fred dies and Hermione is conforting Ron?
The Malfoy Manor(?) scene when Hermione screams looks intense!
I love how it looks so far!!!

Also i think Rupert says the great hall is destroyed.

What is up with the last shot when it looks like Hermione and Harry are behind some bars? What is that?

It is during the battle because those are their battle clothes, but where are they.

Thanks for the link decarus.

That was great, lots of new stuff.

"Just....let...me see...her eyes...one last time. Harry...Look at me."

that could work, and this way slow members of the audience wont have any doubts unto why he says this.:lol:We actually got some new stuff.
Yay! Looks forward to watching it. I dont mind getting spoiled, its not the same to actually see it all together , and it helps me wait for the date. And if it is from the second half which is still so far away, well... at least it helps me stay positive about the film.

Thanks for the link decarus!

WOW! The more I see, the more I want November to be here . Pitty most of what they show is from the second part. But it is freaking awesome! I have no doubt that this one will be the best one .That battle will live up to our expectations!

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Hey guys, at 0:22 in the video of the ABC thing on Snitchseeker, did anyone else think of the protection in Grimmauld Place? It sort of shows them reacting to something.

Thanks for the link decarus.

That was great, lots of new stuff.

No problem. I think accioHP beat me too it. I wanted to watch it first.

I think that is the ghost at Grimmauld Place coming towards them at 0.22.

You see Neville with the sword at 1.39.

PS. Yeah Weasley. That is what i thought.

Like the behind the scenes stuff, looks real good :)

Hey guys, just letting you all know I missed the first sneak peek on yesterday, but im recording all the rest of them directly onto a dvd. So we can have clear video. So ill try and put them up as soon as i can directly after they appear.

Yay! I got to see the first "First look" on tv. It was great. Loved the shot of Ron and Hermione sitting on the stairs.

At first, I didn't know what Hermione was running from, but yeah, I guess it could in Malfoy Manor.

I think the part where they are behind gate bars is either the graveyard, or Hogsmeade... or maybe they are looking at Harry's parents house at Godric's Hollow?

And also, even though I am not a Harry/Hermione shipper, that part where Hermione lays her head on Harry's shoulder looked BEAUTIFUL!

^^Awesome! Looking forward to all the epic goodness that is DH haha. Thanks by the way!

Hey guys, just letting you all know I missed the first sneak peek on yesterday, but im recording all the rest of them directly onto a dvd. So we can have clear video. So ill try and put them up as soon as i can directly after they appear.

Thanks. That is awesome. I think it was just a commercial yesterday so you're good.

Hey guys, just letting you all know I missed the first sneak peek on yesterday, but im recording all the rest of them directly onto a dvd. So we can have clear video. So ill try and put them up as soon as i can directly after they appear.

Thanks that'd be great!

No problem. I think accioHP beat me too it. I wanted to watch it first.

I think that is the ghost at Grimmauld Place coming towards them at 0.22.

You see Neville with the sword at 1.39.

PS. Yeah Weasley. That is what i thought.

I didn't realize that at 0:22 until you said that! You can definitely tell they are moving their mouths like their tongues are rolling back.

I can't see Neville with the sword and I paused it :(

ETA: Someone on IMDB said they could see Bathilda in the graveyard! I need to look for that!

Found it! 0:36. She's on the right!!!

There's a bunch of stuff I missed! I'm gonNa have to watch it again once it comes online in better quality

I didn't realize that at 0:22 until you said that! You can definitely tell they are moving their mouths like their tongues are rolling back.

I can't see Neville with the sword and I paused it :(

ETA: Someone on IMDB said they could see Bathilda in the graveyard! I need to look for that!

It's difficult to see. If you go a second earlier, you can see the sword, then in the next second you can see that it's Neville holding it.

At 1:43, I think that's when the battle is just beginning and Harry's looking for the diadem while Ron and Hermione are in the Chamber of Secrets, and that's why he's by himself.

The silver doe scene where Ron is moving back on the ground very quickly. There is a lot of wind. That seems like a crazy scene. I wonder if they are ever going to show it.

Also at 1:39, in a Behind the Scenes shot, you can see Ron, Hermione, and the twins. One of the twins is in the background, then the other you can see the back of their head.

And I might even see Ginny.

ETA: Someone on IMDB said they could see Bathilda in the graveyard! I need to look for that!

Found it! 0:36. She's on the right!!!

I thought that was just a set person. Now that you mention it it certainly could be Bathilda.

I cannot see Neville, where do you see him?

Also at 1:39, in a Behind the Scenes shot, you can see Ron, Hermione, and the twins. One of the twins is in the background, then the other you can see the back of their head.

And I might even see Ginny.

I think this is after Harry's 'death', so Fred is already dead. I think that it is George and then Percy. Possibly Ginny and Arthur.

It looks like they are backing into the great hall. Do you think the shot with Hermione and Ron on the stairs is after this scene? They could be morning because they think Harry is dead. I wonder if they will have a moment like that. It is light out and Hogwarts seems to be in rubble, so i would think it would be after Harry's death.

PS. Neville is at 1.38 1.39 1.40 when they are all backing up into the great hall. He is holding the sword. He looks very different with a beard, but it is him holding the sword.

I think this is after Harry's 'death', so Fred is already dead. I think that it is George and then Percy. Possibly Ginny and Arthur.

It looks like they are backing into the great hall. Do you think the shot with Hermione and Ron on the stairs is after this scene? They could be morning because they think Harry is dead. I wonder if they will have a moment like that. It is light out and Hogwarts seems to be in rubble, so i would think it would be after Harry's death.


Oh, my goodness. If you are right, and that is when they think Harry is dead... wow, that could possibly be one of the most powerful scenes in the movie!

Wow... that is such a beautiful shot.

Oh, my goodness. If you are right, and that is when they think Harry is dead... wow, that could possibly be one of the most powerful scenes in the movie!

Wow... that is such a beautiful shot.

It could be before Harry leaves, but for some reason i think it should still be dark out when he leaves.

I certainly think them all backing up is after Harry's death.

PS. Hermione might be comforting Ron because of Fred's death which would also be a powerful moment. I am going back and forth. It could be from before Harry leaves. It would still be a very powerful moment.

I love the new scenes from the ABC clip! I'm wishing I hadn't canceled my cable now :lol:

I noticed that at the final credits they put "music by Alexandre Desplat", does this could mean that he is going to score both movies? :relax:

What about at 0.41? It looks like there is snow behind them, but that doesn't make sense because Ron is still wearing the sling. I am thinking it must be water and it is hard to tell because of the video quality.

It really looks like snow though.

PS. I really think it is Snapes death. He is looking down like he is looking at something and it is clear now that he isn't running for it, so i don't think it is the duel.

It could be before Harry leaves, but for some reason i think it should still be dark out when he leaves.

I certainly think them all backing up is after Harry's death.

PS. Hermione might be comforting Ron because of Fred's death which would also be a powerful moment. I am going back and forth. It could be from before Harry leaves. It would still be a very powerful moment.

Well, I don't think they'd just be sitting there in the middle of battle. Because in the trailer, we saw them running through the rubble throwing and dodging spells. So this has to be after everything has calmed down. In the book, the fighting has calmed down when everyone thinks Harry is dead.

So maybe Ron and Hermione's scene on the steps is before the scene they all back up into the castle. (the part we see in the BTS with Hermione/Ron and the Weasleys.)

I keep hoping they would play the end of an era, by Oliver Boyd and the remembralls, at the end of it all. Like for the credits, but I know it wont happen.:sad:

I think we need screencaps of this footage :lol:

Wow decarus! What awesome eyesight you have, it took me ages to see Neville...

Do you think when Harry runs by a window and it smashes its when Hagrid is thrown in by Grawp?

Well, I don't think they'd just be sitting there in the middle of battle. Because in the trailer, we saw them running through the rubble throwing and dodging spells. So this has to be after everything has calmed down. In the book, the fighting has calmed down when everyone thinks Harry is dead.

So maybe Ron and Hermione's scene on the steps is before the scene they all back up into the castle. (the part we see in the BTS with Hermione/Ron and the Weasleys.)

I don't think there is any calm in the book after they think Harry is dead. Everything goes very nosily insane after that moment so it would be a change to have a calm moment.

There is a moment of calm when Voldemort tells his troops to pull back and tells Harry to come to him. This is when they put all the bodies in the great hall and there is this moment of morning. Harry then goes and watches the memories and then walks out past everyone.

I actually think that it might not make sense to have a moment of calm after they think Harry is dead. It might be too much calm that way. Maybe everything will go noisly insane like in the book.

I am changing my mind. I think this is probably when Harry is leaving to go to the forest and to Voldemort.

The reason i thought it might be after was because it is light out. In the book it is dark out until Harry and Voldemort duel. It is a little unclear when the sun will rise in the film. It may be during the moment of calm when Harry is looking at the memories.

Gah, I wish a higher quality video was out already :|. Or, if they replay it, because I missed it and didn't DVR it.

Wow decarus! What awesome eyesight you have, it took me ages to see Neville...

Do you think when Harry runs by a window and it smashes its when Hagrid is thrown in by Grawp?

I might be a crazy person who goes shot by shot. Not that i am admitting to that. You have got to love Neville with the sword though. Absolutely awesome.

Oh! That is Ron grabbing Hermione at Malfoy Manor when she runs. Haha, I thought that was Harry. Oops. :whistle: And I think the crash we hear is the chandelier, so maybe she like.. runs right under it O.O

Yeah same here because I didn't notice Bathilda in the graveyard or the thing in grimmauld place. Thanks for pointing that out.

Ironically enough I missed it showing off Lego Harry Potter to my friend.

I have no regrets. I just hope a high quality version comes out soon. The battle shots at the end were great.

It could be the chandelier. Good call.

You can tell that some of the shots are unfinished. The two groups are really close to each other in that one shot when they are throwing spells at each other. I want a nice high quality version of this.

I actually am a lot more excited for Part 2 then i was before.

Well sorcerer's stone is almost over so i dont know if there will be another one tonight, but if i recall whenever they did sneak peeks for Azkaban they took a break after the chess game and showed a sneak peek, so i dont know if they'll have one at the end of the film or not. It's going to be a long weekend though, and i think they actually did repeats of the Half-Blood Prince sneak peek when they came on, so it's quite possible i'll be able to get the one on youtube in higher quality as well.

Welp, Im setting the ABC Family schedule as my desktop background so there's no way ill forget, and im sure i can capture the rest of them for you all!

EDIT: Sorry, im not really speculating with the rest of you about the new sneak peek and bts footage, but my eyes are glued to the screen until the night is done. Then, ill give the video a watch and see what nw footage we got.

Well sorcerer's stone is almost over so i dont know if there will be another one tonight, but if i recall whenever they did sneak peeks for Azkaban they took a break after the chess game and showed a sneak peek, so i dont know if they'll have one at the end of the film or not. It's going to be a long weekend though, and i think they actually did repeats of the Half-Blood Prince sneak peek when they came on, so it's quite possible i'll be able to get the one on youtube in higher quality as well.

Welp, Im setting the ABC Family schedule as my desktop background so there's no way ill forget, and im sure i can capture the rest of them for you all!

EDIT: Sorry, im not really speculating with the rest of you about the new sneak peek and bts footage, but my eyes are glued to the screen until the night is done. Then, ill give the video a watch and see what nw footage we got.

Yeah, you might be right about another sneak peak. And it looks like it could come up very soon if it does.

Well, I'm going to watch the rest of the movie and head off to bed. So if there is another one, I'll happily discuss it with you tomorrow!

If there isn't one, I'm sure we'll get a new one with Chamber of Secrets :D

Here is a better version (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0iKlSj-RLs). It still isn't great.

I'm surprised they only played the DH footage once during the whole movie. I wasn't expecting a different clip tn but I thought thud play it another time.

i was at work when all this aired. is there only one sneek peek?

i was at work when all this aired. is there only one sneek peek?

Yep just one tonight

alrighty thanks. and only one interview segment too?

alrighty thanks. and only one interview segment too?

The interviews and behind the scenes were all together in one thing

Great thanks. I'll go watch it now haha.

I like how the interviews sort of make it feel like Harry isn't going to make it.

Hmm, well the last commercial break just passed, nothing new. welp, i guess ill be up and ready for it all day tomorrow! Now, I do remember someone saying that the new ABC Family Sneak Peek said "Music By Alexandre Desplat" and considering those same credits also say "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows" and NOT "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 1" I think it's same to assume that Alexendre Desplat will be doing the score to Both Films, just as I had hoped! I do miss John Williams but considering this is still The Deathly Hallows ONE movie presented in two parts, not two completely different movies, I would've much rathered Desplat score both films, then John Williams score the 2nd Part, but of course this isnt the thread to talk about composers, ill stop now, but just something to mention.

I am absolutely LOVING the battle footage, it looks incredible, my favorite shot has to be when Harry's just running down the Hallway and all the glass just shatters as he runs by. The cinematography looked by far the best of the films, I love how different this looks from all the other films, it's amazing how much they've changed over the years. I also really love the shot of hermione putting her head and harry's shoulder in the graveyard, it looks really powerful, as does Ron and Hermione on the stairs. And the windiness when Ron is on the ground during Silver Doe makes me either think that when Horcrux Harry and Hermione first come out there'll be a huge blast of wind, or maybe he stabs in and gets thrown back and it starts getting really windy because the horcrux got destroyed, either way it looks pretty cool.

Now considering this sneak peek was for both parts (as im sure all the others will be) it's no surprise that they showed things from the battle. Here's my view on this whole advertising thing:
With every Harry Potter movie they show bits and pieces of the climax in the trailers
Sorcerer's Stone we saw alot from the chess set, and the "actiony" stuff at the end of the movie.
Chamber of Secrets we SAW the chamber of secrets, bits of the basilisk fight, etc.
Prisoner of Azkaban we actually got very little, we did see bits of the shrieking shack and some whomping willow and dementors, and bits of the werwolf scene too.
Goblet of Fire we saw Prior Incantatem, lots of things from the graveyard, and not to mention all the twi-wizard tournament
Order of the Phoenix we got lots of bits from the climax, mostly the phorphecy room, and some small parts from the veil room
Half-Blood Prince we saw the great hall exploding, we saw bits from the cave, heck we got a quick shot of dumbledore falling, which IMO was far too much.
Deathly Hallows- Judging by where they're going with the advertising. WB doesn't view this as two seperate movies, that are completely different and both about something entirely new, this is one movie, one story, presented in 2 parts, ONE movie, 2 parts, IMO this is how wb is marketing it....for now. Just because we wont see it until next year doesn't mean they shouldnt be showing it. The Huge Action packed climax of deathly hallows is still the battle, not malfoy manor, not the gringotts attack, the battle. Apparently these films are being presented as "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows" in 2 Parts. Every Harry Potter film had a new story each time, Sorcerer's Stone, Chamber of Secrets, Prisoner of Azkaban, Goblet of Fire, Order of the Phoenix and Half-Blood Prince, sure they were all a continuation of the last, but they all had their own plot to follow, Deathly Hallows is no different. It's one story, one plot, in 2 parts. Sure each film will say Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, followed by Part 1 or Part 2, but the way I see it each of the movies dont stand alone as a total and complete story different from each other. Just because it has a title card at the beginning of Part 2 means nothing, it's Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.....Part 2. It's like in Smallville, they have a Season Finale, then to be continued, then the next season opens up, it still has somewhat of an introduction and then the opening theme song comes on, however i could easily cut out the opening titles, and do some clever editing and join the two together. My point is, I see this as one film in 2 Parts, not 2 Completely Separate films. I dont want to cause any trouble, make anyone mad, bash anyone any of that. Im Just voicing my opinion on this, please no one scream at me (or all caps me. lol) for typing this. I honestly dont mind the Part 2 stuff one single bit, it doesn't matter to me how far away it is, Part 2 is just the second part of part 1. Now, this is just my opinion, but the way i see it, it's almost like some people are acting like they put bits of Half-Blood Prince in an Order of the Phoenix Trailer. One difference, Deathly Hallows is still one 4 -5 hour movie. In 2 Parts. Again, this is how i feel. This is my opinion...please be nice. Lol.

Well, to end this post on a lighter note. I've got the ABC Family schedule set as my desktop background, i've got blank dvds ready, and ill be ready to monitor ABC Family for Sneak Peeks Tomorrow, Saturday, AND Sunday! Hopefully the quality will be good for you guys, I only wish I got HD channels but standard quality will have to do (at least it's better than a recording with a camera from a tv screen). And besides this'll be fun. A Harry Potter marathon is just what I need as a good refresher.

...I feel like I am going to get yelled at now.

I just watched it. Wow the battle scenes at the end, with everyone running, looks so awesome!

The only reason I wish we could see more part 1 is because I want to get excited for that part. After seeing all these part 2 parts, it just makes want to see that but we have a whole year!

They do always show the action scenes in trailers. I have never liked that. Not only because they spoil the action, but because those are not the best scenes. I like the quiet scenes better and have sort of had enough of the action. Especially action i am not going to see for quite a long time.

PS. The thing is the scenes i liked the most in HBP were probably the scene on the stairway with Harry and Hermione and when Harry was on the felix and we didn't see much if any of those parts in the trailers. I may be misremembering.

Hmm, well the last commercial break just passed, nothing new. welp, i guess ill be up and ready for it all day tomorrow! Now, I do remember someone saying that the new ABC Family Sneak Peek said "Music By Alexandre Desplat" and considering those same credits also say "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows" and NOT "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 1" I think it's same to assume that Alexendre Desplat will be doing the score to Both Films, just as I had hoped! I do miss John Williams but considering this is still The Deathly Hallows ONE movie presented in two parts, not two completely different movies, I would've much rathered Desplat score both films, then John Williams score the 2nd Part, but of course this isnt the thread to talk about composers, ill stop now, but just something to mention.

I am absolutely LOVING the battle footage, it looks incredible, my favorite shot has to be when Harry's just running down the Hallway and all the glass just shatters as he runs by. The cinematography looked by far the best of the films, I love how different this looks from all the other films, it's amazing how much they've changed over the years. I also really love the shot of hermione putting her head and harry's shoulder in the graveyard, it looks really powerful, as does Ron and Hermione on the stairs. And the windiness when Ron is on the ground during Silver Doe makes me either think that when Horcrux Harry and Hermione first come out there'll be a huge blast of wind, or maybe he stabs in and gets thrown back and it starts getting really windy because the horcrux got destroyed, either way it looks pretty cool.

Now considering this sneak peek was for both parts (as im sure all the others will be) it's no surprise that they showed things from the battle. Here's my view on this whole advertising thing:
With every Harry Potter movie they show bits and pieces of the climax in the trailers
Sorcerer's Stone we saw alot from the chess set, and the "actiony" stuff at the end of the movie.
Chamber of Secrets we SAW the chamber of secrets, bits of the basilisk fight, etc.
Prisoner of Azkaban we actually got very little, we did see bits of the shrieking shack and some whomping willow and dementors, and bits of the werwolf scene too.
Goblet of Fire we saw Prior Incantatem, lots of things from the graveyard, and not to mention all the twi-wizard tournament
Order of the Phoenix we got lots of bits from the climax, mostly the phorphecy room, and some small parts from the veil room
Half-Blood Prince we saw the great hall exploding, we saw bits from the cave, heck we got a quick shot of dumbledore falling, which IMO was far too much.
Deathly Hallows- Judging by where they're going with the advertising. WB doesn't view this as two seperate movies, that are completely different and both about something entirely new, this is one movie, one story, presented in 2 parts, ONE movie, 2 parts, IMO this is how wb is marketing it....for now. Just because we wont see it until next year doesn't mean they shouldnt be showing it. The Huge Action packed climax of deathly hallows is still the battle, not malfoy manor, not the gringotts attack, the battle. Apparently these films are being presented as "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows" in 2 Parts. Every Harry Potter film had a new story each time, Sorcerer's Stone, Chamber of Secrets, Prisoner of Azkaban, Goblet of Fire, Order of the Phoenix and Half-Blood Prince, sure they were all a continuation of the last, but they all had their own plot to follow, Deathly Hallows is no different. It's one story, one plot, in 2 parts. Sure each film will say Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, followed by Part 1 or Part 2, but the way I see it each of the movies dont stand alone as a total and complete story different from each other. Just because it has a title card at the beginning of Part 2 means nothing, it's Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows.....Part 2. It's like in Smallville, they have a Season Finale, then to be continued, then the next season opens up, it still has somewhat of an introduction and then the opening theme song comes on, however i could easily cut out the opening titles, and do some clever editing and join the two together. My point is, I see this as one film in 2 Parts, not 2 Completely Separate films. I dont want to cause any trouble, make anyone mad, bash anyone any of that. Im Just voicing my opinion on this, please no one scream at me (or all caps me. lol) for typing this. I honestly dont mind the Part 2 stuff one single bit, it doesn't matter to me how far away it is, Part 2 is just the second part of part 1. Now, this is just my opinion, but the way i see it, it's almost like some people are acting like they put bits of Half-Blood Prince in an Order of the Phoenix Trailer. One difference, Deathly Hallows is still one 4 -5 hour movie. In 2 Parts. Again, this is how i feel. This is my opinion...please be nice. Lol.

Well, to end this post on a lighter note. I've got the ABC Family schedule set as my desktop background, i've got blank dvds ready, and ill be ready to monitor ABC Family for Sneak Peeks Tomorrow, Saturday, AND Sunday! Hopefully the quality will be good for you guys, I only wish I got HD channels but standard quality will have to do (at least it's better than a recording with a camera from a tv screen). And besides this'll be fun. A Harry Potter marathon is just what I need as a good refresher.

But...but...BUT......*calms down and doesn't go into caps lock mode* ;) A couple flashes of the ending for the other films wasn't a majority of the scene. We never saw a full clip of Quirrell/Voldemort talking to Harry in PS/SS, we never saw a clip of Harry entering the chamber of secrets and talking with memory Riddle in the COS trailers, we never saw a full clip of the shack scene from POA, never saw a clip of Harry getting up from behind the tombstone and confronting Voldemort and a good 30 seconds of their duel, for OOTP, we didn't see about 20 seconds of Voldemort and Dumbledore's duel and for HBP, we never saw about 10-20 seconds of Snape coming up to the tower and killing Dumbledore...we only ever saw quick flashes of key scenes that only obsessive fans like us picked up on. :lol: Nothing never as drastic as this.

The marketing is making me wish the films were just one film now...I mean they aren't one film, that's the thing, not at this point. Sure you might be able to put them together when they are both on video, but for now, for all intents and purposes they are two separate films released 9 months apart....

The marketing is literally making me sick. :lol: I want to get excited for part 1, but they are getting me excited for part 2 which IS SO FAR AWAY and I'm sick of waiting as it is..ugh, now I just wanna see the movies. Both parts. :lol: They shouldn't have split it if they wanted this to be one big event...

I noticed the Desplat credit too. I don't think it means anything. There's a subtitle for a release date of November 19 even when they were showing clips from part 2, so it's not really accurate. Unless of-course, WB just decided to release both parts in November!

Oh good Lord, what is going on in here?! :wow: We have new footage?! Sorry, I've been too wrapped up in following the Inception reviews :whistle:

Oh good Lord, what is going on in here?! :wow: Do we have new footage?! Sorry, I've been too wrapped up in following the Inception reviews :whistle:

All new footage of a brand new scene invented for the movie where Harry's mind is the scene of the crime!

All new footage of a brand new scene invented for the movie where Harry's mind is the scene of the crime!

Haha, very funny Vince...


Anyways, is anyone recording HD versions directly off their TV like a few people on this forum did for HBP? *looks at Arry*

That was pretty funny. Is inception out already? I will probably see that.

I hope that we get a nice high quality version that we can make screencaps out of. This footage was almost better then the teaser trailer. At least for me it was.

Haha, very funny Vince...


Anyways, is anyone recording HD versions directly off their TV like a few people on this forum did for HBP? *looks at Arry*

Too bad they don't have ABC Family in NZ.. :whistle:

Anyways, is anyone recording HD versions directly off their TV like a few people on this forum did for HBP? *looks at Arry*

If I knew how to record directly from the TV, I would. I don't have a DVR or anything like that. harry5678 is going to record the rest of the sneak peaks. (thanks for that harry5678)

That was pretty funny. Is inception out already? I will probably see that.

I hope that we get a nice high quality version that we can make screencaps out of. This footage was almost better then the teaser trailer. At least for me it was.

Nope, if you take notice of my sig it doesn't come out 'til the 16th. Anyways, I really hope there's a DH trailer before it cause I'm seeing it the first chance I get. I'm guessing there will be, but probably just the one we've already seen. Really though, the smartest thing for WB to do would be announce an exclusive trailer that can ONLY be seen before Inception...which would be extra incentive for people to buy tickets. I mean if it can't be seen on the internet...that is, IF they could keep it off the net...that's a hard task in today's society. :whistle:

Too bad they don't have ABC Family in NZ.. :whistle:
Oh yeah, that's right...Rachel recorded 'em for us and then sent them to Aaron, didn't she?

If I knew how to record directly from the TV, I would. I don't have a DVR or anything like that. harry5678 is going to record the rest of the sneak peaks.

Ah, ok. Cool, yeah I remember now that him and Rachel were almost in a competition to be the first to record 'em and send in to MGnet :lol:

Yep, Rachel recorded them and sent them to Aaron which took DAYS! :lol: But then again he wanted the whole movies because they were extended..

Speaking of Rach, I wonder if she'll get invited to the DH test screening like she was with HBP...If she does, Decarus, 9thWonder and KJRiddle, you guys have to create a new podcast at the end of August entitled HallowsWatch and interview her! ;) :p

I always enjoyed your guys podcasts too. I don't really like any of the ones that go on now as much as i liked yours. Though mugglenets last one wasn't too bad.

It just seems like a lot of times the people who do the podcasts aren't up on their news.

I always enjoyed your guys podcasts too. I don't really like any of the ones that go on now as much as i liked yours. Though mugglenets last one wasn't too bad.

It just seems like a lot of times the people who do the podcasts aren't up on their news.

Thank you so much! :) :huggles: Yeah, I agree about the main podcasts, they always appear so uninformed. That's why you guys should carry on the torch and start your own podcast for DH. All you need is skype, mics, a recording program and editing software. I think we'd all love and listen to that show. :)

I really enjoyed listening to PrinceWatch :tu: Definitely the best HP podcast IMO.

HallowsWatch sounds tempting but I don't know the first thing about making a podcast. Getting to interview someone who sees the screentest would be awesome though.

I've been wishing lately that I could take part in a potter podcast. Too bad I dont really know the first thing about creating one! haha.

I don't know anything about doing podcasts either. I do hope we get someone that will give us good information on the test screening though.

I noticed the Desplat credit too. I don't think it means anything. There's a subtitle for a release date of November 19 even when they were showing clips from part 2, so it's not really accurate. Unless of-course, WB just decided to release both parts in November!

Actually it said:
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Note that it says "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows" Not "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1"
and also "Music By Alexandre Desplat"
Then...
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"Part 1: November 2010" and "Part 2: July 2011"
So as far as I can tell those were credits for Both Parts...which im inferring it means Alexandre Desplat is scoring both parts as well.

And I promise I didn't photoshop those at all.

Speaking of Rach, I wonder if she'll get invited to the DH test screening like she was with HBP...If she does, Decarus, 9thWonder and KJRiddle, you guys have to create a new podcast at the end of August entitled HallowsWatch and interview her! ;) :p

I thought it was gonna be DeathWatch...too morbid? :lol: :whistle: Thanks for the kind words about Potterwatch though guys :) At least some people enjoyed it...we got a few rather nasty responses from others :relax:

Anyways, do we just have the one sneak peek so far? I'm impressed though, looks like it ran the ENTIRE commercial length :wow: I don't remember any of the HBP ones being longer then a minute...and most were 30 sec.

We didn't know much either...it's not really that hard to start. You just need to have the right inspiration really and be really good friends and work well together, that's the important thing. But you just have to talk about DH news and things in your list. Instead of posting your thoughts on the forum, you just say it and discuss it with each other. That's all. All the necessary equipment is free and easy to download.

Yep, Rachel recorded them and sent them to Aaron which took DAYS!

No, it didn't - it was up within half an hour :p And yeah, that was Racheeze, not me.

I am surprised there is no HD/HQ versions up yet. I don't want to rewatch it until there is, and then not watch it ever again :lol:

Speaking of, is there a DH vid youtube channel in junction with the list where we can find all the trailers, bts...and eventual TV spots, etc?

I thought that was an awesome idea Arry had for HBP. It's nice being able to find EVERYTHING in one place. I still go back and watch the HBP promotional material from time to time :lol: :whistle:

Speaking of, is there a DH vid youtube channel in junction with the list where we can find all the trailers, bts...and eventual TV spots, etc?

Yes there is. (http://youtube.com/AllInclusiveDH)

We only have the trailer up right now. We uploaded the MTV preview but it was taken down.

No, it didn't - it was up within half an hour :p And yeah, that was Racheeze, not me.

I am surprised there is no HD/HQ versions up yet. I don't want to rewatch it until there is, and then not watch it ever again :lol:

Yeah I'm waiting for a HQ one to watch it again. I've only watched it once so far on tv.
Maybe someone on the west coast got it and will send it in to one of the sites. I hope soon

wow! I love the Malfoy Manor scene with Hermione screaming and running towards ron, and the new scene of the trio on the beach with hermione on the ground, they must have just apparated. I didn't notice Bathilda in the scene, thats REALLY creepy. I wonder if they'll have her creep up on them in the graveyard... or if they meet her before and she takes them there?

Yes there is. (http://youtube.com/AllInclusiveDH)

We only have the trailer up right now. We uploaded the MTV preview but it was taken down.

Ah cool, thanks guys...you're on top of things :tu: Would it be possible to upload the footage from HBP DVD and the Lego thing as well? :)

If that is her then she must find them in the graveyard. She wasn't with them when they entered the graveyard.

Ah cool, thanks guys...you're on top of things :tu: Would it be possible to upload the footage from HBP DVD and the Lego thing as well? :)

The First Look from the HBP DVD gets deleted unless you alter it. The ones on youtube are either recordings of a tv or the audio is completely off. We plan on uploading the LEGO one very soon if the ones that are already up do not get deleted. We have one strike. Three strikes and your account gets suspended.

Yeah i have a couple downloaded here also (http://www.youtube.com/user/decarus427). We will see if they get deleted.

I see. Sorry to be a bother, but can those others be transfered over to the more official list one your partner linked to? :whistle:


Oh, and are we expecting anything else tonight or is there more to come in the next few days? Hmm, this is odd...starting on a Thursday? I suppose that's what's caught me off guard a bit too...but then admittedly I was completely unaware of this HP weekend to begin with :lol:

If I knew how to record directly from the TV, I would. I don't have a DVR or anything like that. harry5678 is going to record the rest of the sneak peaks. (thanks for that harry5678)

It's no trouble! :D I did for Half-Blood Prince as well. (My upload had a distinct feature so I could tell it was mine) So don't worry Im more than happy to do it for Deathly Hallows as well! Plus, i actually havent seen the first five moies in months so it'll be a good refresher!

The First Look from the HBP DVD gets deleted unless you alter it. The ones on youtube have are either recordings of a tv or the audio is completely off. We plan on uploading the LEGO one very soon if the ones that are already do not get deleted. We have one strike. Three strikes and your account gets suspended.

Oh, damn. That sucks. Yeah, I guess Youtube keeps tightening down on that kind of stuff. I recall back when we tried uploading the HBP vids that they had just started in with the audio copyright thing. They didn't care about the video so much, just the music apparently :lol:

I see. Sorry to be a bother, but can those others be transfered over to the more official list one your partner linked to? :whistle:

Well like he said we don't want to chance it getting deleted again. Though the lego thing came out officially so we should be alright with that one, but i am not sure how that works.

Oh, and are we expecting anything else tonight or is there more to come in the next few days? Hmm, this is odd...starting on a Thursday? I suppose that's what's caught me off guard a bit too...but then admittedly I was completely unaware of this HP weekend to begin with :lol:

I think we might get something more tomorrow, but i think that is it for tonight.

Well like he said we don't want to chance it getting deleted again. Though the lego thing came out officially so we should be alright with that one, but i am not sure how that works.

Yeah, I hadn't seen his response yet...sorry I asked :)

Yeah, I hadn't seen his response yet...sorry I asked :)

And next week, ABC Family will have sneak peaks for Inception!!! :p Why don't you do a podcast for that, Scott? :p DreamCast. :rotfl:

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Someone posted this gif on imdb. It's of the shot with Neville and the sword. You can definitely see the twins, Ginny, and arthu. As well as hermione and ron
Edit: actually it looks like one of the twins and percy

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Someone posted this gif on imdb. It's of the shot with Neville and the sword. You can definitely see the twins, Ginny, and arthu. As well as hermione and ron

I think there's just one twin, the other guy is Percy; and yeah there's also Ginny and Arthur :D

I think this is after Fred's death. In the book this is after Fred's death.

It looks like the shot from the trailer where Hermione is trying to calm an anguished Ron. Watch the gif and focus only on Ron and Hermione. At the end we can see Ron reach for his left pocket just like he does in the trailer clip.

Thoughts?

Interesting clip makes the battle look even better!

The shot where the trio are backing off in a dark, narrow corridor could be the scene in Grimmauld Place where the Dumbledore ghost thing appears.

I agree that the actual scene with Harry tied up is a little weird. I have no idea how Harry gets out of it. I do like the line though.

Yeah, the dialog there is great. I'm hoping it will be a dramatic moment rather than action with Harry saying something that causes Voldemort to let go of him in shock and back away - maybe something along the lines of "I know things you don’t know, Tom Riddle." Or maybe his statement that one of them was about to die.

I think the point of the thread is to discuss the Deathly Hallows films. Nothing can be over discussed because that is the entire point of the thread, over discussion.

Also while we may have been aware that the duel was going to be extended for a year now, it is different now that we have actually seen it. You are, of course, more then welcome to say that you are fine with the change just as i am more then welcome to say i am slight leery of the change. You can, of course, disagree with me, but i don't think it makes sense to say that i should stop saying it since the entire point of the thread is to over discuss the Deathly Hallows films.

Exactly. The things that are potentially disappointing are as significant to the discussion as the things that are potentially exciting, IMO. For me, I find it better to be prepared. When I went to see POA, the only things I had seen were the news reports about Richard Harris dying, the report that Michael Gambon would be taking over the role of Dumbledore, and the trailers. I was unprepared and I can't remember ever being more bitterly disappointed when watching a movie. I can count the scenes that I actually liked on one hand. I hated the childish, satirical feel that film had and the characters were completely unrecognizable to me. I haven't watched it since - not even for the sneak peaks of the newer films. I was better prepared for GOF, OOTP, and HBP and I found that I enjoyed those films as a whole much better when I knew in advance which scenes would potentially be disappointing for me. I'm not setting myself up for disappointment in the film - I'm preparing myself for certain individual scenes that I think are potentially disappointing so they do not detract from my enjoyment of the film as a whole.

With the Potter films, I tend to follow my father's motto in life - better to expect the worst and be pleasantly surprised than to expect the best and be bitterly disappointed. ;)

PS.

Well here is the Heyman quote (http://www.the-leaky-cauldron.org/2009/7/16/heyman-on-length-of-battle-of-hogwarts-for-deathly-hallows-probably-be-30-minutes) that i think you are referring to:


I think he means once the battle begins because he mentions the build up before the battle. I think the build up would be finding out about the diadem, Ron/Hermione kiss, the fiendfyre scene, evacuating the castle, and then the battle would begin and then after harry's death would be more battle. I think that he just means the actual battle parts and not all the scenes at Hogwarts.

That's what it sounds like to me. I like the possibility of them showing Ron and Hermione go into the Chamber of Secrets to get basilisk fangs and destroy the cup instead of them just telling Harry about it later.

I think this is after Fred's death. In the book this is after Fred's death.

That would be my take on it. Fred died early in the battle - long before Harry "died" and Neville got the sword to kill Nagini.

I'm curious about the bit where Harry and Hermione come up to the bars. When I first saw it, I thought it looked like a prison cell, but when I watched again, it looks more like a corridor that has been blocked off. Any idea where they are or what scene that might be?

I like the look of the scene where Ron destroys the locket so far - he looks terrified and all that wind suggests that he is seeing something frightening. That's what I'm hoping for with that scene - it should be frightening and disturbing.

A little tip on watching videos on You Tube - add &fmt=22 to the end of the URL and reload. That's a code for HD and usually improves the quality - at least a bit. The two links we've had so far didn't improve a whole lot because they were really low quality to begin with, but a little improvement is better than none. :)

I like the clip, again too much Battle Hogwarts stuff but I'm learning to expect it so... The stuff from Malfoy Manor looks good I hope that is in part 1.

I may be completely wrong, but what Rupert is saying about the Great Hall is leading me into believing that the duel (or what we've seen of it) between Harry and Voldemort might be in the Great Hall after all (or should I say whats left of it) and not in the courtyard. I'll have to have a good look at the Great Hall to see whether its compitable with what we've seen in the trailer and clips.

At least some people enjoyed it...we got a few rather nasty responses from others :relax:
Really, I thought princewatch was great :) If 9th Wonder, Decarus and KJRiddle consider doing a podcast to go with The All-Inclusive DH List I can guarentee they'd have 1 listener.

Really, I thought princewatch was great :) If 9th Wonder, Decarus and KJRiddle consider doing a podcast to go with The All-Inclusive DH List I can guarentee they'd have 1 listener.

Yeah, really. Here's an email we got...

Seriously, ARE ALL OF YOU F-ING RETARDS?!

No.1: You don't seem even remotely intrested in the actual film you claim the "podcast" is supposed to be about;
What I hear every other second is: "Uhhh..I don't know", "Whatever", "Huh?", "What? I wasn't listening",
"Uhhhh...yeah...but...I don't know"

No.2: Why, oh WHY ARE YOU CONSTANTLY INTERRUPTING EACHOTHER? It's impossible to follow any dialogue!!

No.3: Aaron(?) I am not going to comment on your aussie/n.z accent (or possible extreme case of shyness)
but could you please try to S - P - E - A - K U - P! (And perhaps pronounce a bit)

No.4: I don't know if any of you suffer from ADD, but even if that's the case, I think you'd understand that you're supposed
to talk into your microphone, not exhale heavily, or for that matter, keep change position of.



Sorry but your show is beyond pathetic. A lame attempt to make what others already do perfectly, without further effort.
It's not weird that you don't get any response from listeners.


The Harry Potter fandom deserves so much more than this!

Hope you come to terms.

But whatever...that's over and done with, it was just something to occupy our time and we had fun doing it. Of course it wasn't as well polished as Mugglecast or Pottercast...but they've done like a couple hundred shows so what do you expect? :shrug: At least we were informed


Anyways, that would be awesome if 9th Wonder and Decarus made a podcast for DH...I'd def listen :tu: But you know, no pressure guys :p


And it'd be cool if Rachel is somehow able to see the screening of DH too and someone could interview her again. Personally I thought she was a great source and remembered a hell of a lot more then most would. I know I don't have that good of a memory for just one viewing :lol: Especially when I'm dying to see something, it tends to all fly by so fast and I need to go back and watch again to really soak it all in...

Neville with the sword! Hoorah!

Harry and Hermione in a corridor with bars across?

Looks similar to a bit in one of the trailers showing Filch walking away from a barred section with people behind it just before an explosion.

Just woke up to an awesome clip. :lol: I love this! Yay!

Well, I wish they hadn't shown so much Battle of Hogwarts, but it does look great. That Ron/Hermione moment is so emotional looking. :sad: I think it might be after Fred dies, because in the book there was a pause in the battle halfway through so that the dead could be taken into the Great Hall, before Harry leaves for the forest. It only makes sense I think. Wow that looks sad.

But then in that shot with the Weasleys, I think both twins are there. :shrug:

I can't see Neville, could anyone please make screenshots?

EDIT: Oh hang on I see Neville now. :yuhup: Awesomeness. But yeah, only George is there and he's with Percy, so I guess that's for sure after Fred died. :upset:

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In that gif of them running into the castle, Hermione and Ron are like... holding onto each other, sorta. It's cute! :love: I think after they kiss, we might see a lot of interaction between them.

http://i30.tinypic.com/20tjfia.gif

In that gif of them running into the castle, Hermione and Ron are like... holding onto each other, sorta. It's cute! :love: I think after they kiss, we might see a lot of interaction between them.

Yes, I'm so looking forward to that. :D Emma and Rupert act very well and realistically together in my opinion; they're perfect for Ron and Hermione, I feel their portrayals of the characters are brilliant.

I'm curious about the bit where Harry and Hermione come up to the bars. When I first saw it, I thought it looked like a prison cell, but when I watched again, it looks more like a corridor that has been blocked off. Any idea where they are or what scene that might be?

I have no idea where they are. Someone suggested that maybe it was one of the gates into Hogwarts. I am not sure that makes sense because i think they are still going to go through a tunnel.

What about at 0.23? It looks like the trio are coming down some narrow stairway. They are wearing the clothes that they wear during the battle. Could that be the Hogs Head?

I have no idea where they are. Someone suggested that maybe it was one of the gates into Hogwarts. I am not sure that makes sense because i think they are still going to go through a tunnel.

I was thinking that it's part of the scene from the trailer with Filch and the explosion, only in that there were three people behind the bars. So maybe Harry, Ron and Hermione are running about the castle, get stuck there and are blasted through? I don't know, just speculation. :hmm:

What about at 0.23? It looks like the trio are coming down some narrow stairway. They are wearing the clothes that they wear during the battle. Could that be the Hogs Head?

Probably is, you're right. :huh:


Btw, upon looking more closely at the scene where Hermione runs to Ron in Malfoy Manor, I don't think that's it at all. Listen to the scream and look at the length of her hair. I really think this is actually Lavender in the Great Hall. :huh:

Well i think it is Hermione, but it could be her stunt person. It might not be Emma is what i am saying. It is definitely in Malfoy Manor based on their clothes and the set.

I don't think it looks the same as the gate that explodes in the other shot we were talking about.

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