Way Ahead for Deathly Hallows Movie(s) v.5

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me_potter_fan
July 10th, 2010, 6:13 am
Maybe we'll see a quick flashback while Harry explains why he's the master of the Elder Wand? I don't know.

That would be really cool and would tie everything together to make the audience understand.

franckolat
July 10th, 2010, 6:20 am
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Originally Posted by 9th_Wonder
Maybe we'll see a quick flashback while Harry explains why he's the master of the Elder Wand? I don't know.

That would be really cool and would tie everything together to make the audience understand.

Flashbacks are kind of cheap, don't you think? The movies have never used flashbacks for explanation so far.

BubbleSnake
July 10th, 2010, 6:25 am
Flashbacks are kind of cheap, don't you think? The movies have never used flashbacks for explanation so far.

If you count Hagrid telling Harry about Voldemort yes, Then there are the pensive flashbacks, but I see what you mean. Tho I would like to see a updated version of Voldemort killing Harry's parents and why he did it in the beginning of the movie. I really want to see that bad, but no they shouldn't flashback to the Malfoy Manor during the climax It would feel cheap yes lol..


Still want to see the Voldemort and Harry's parents flashback bad...with more detail.

franckolat
July 10th, 2010, 6:34 am
If you count Hagrid telling Harry about Voldemort yes, Then there are the pensive flashbacks, but I see what you mean. Tho I would like to see a updated version of Voldemort killing Harry's parents and why he did it in the beginning of the movie. I really want to see that bad...

Pensieve flashbacks are ok, those flashbacks are part of the plot. As long as they show something we've never seen, they're ok. But showing a previous scene in the films to the audience, just to make sure they remember it, is lame in my opinion.

9th_Wonder
July 10th, 2010, 6:42 am
Pensieve flashbacks are ok, those flashbacks are part of the plot. As long as they show something we've never seen, they're ok. But showing a previous scene in the films to the audience, just to make sure they remember it, is lame in my opinion.

It was just a thought. But it's like you said, how is the audience going to remember Harry disarming Draco if it occurred in the previous movie? Harry can just explain it like he did in the book but that won't mean those who haven't read the book will remember.

ActingDude17
July 10th, 2010, 6:48 am
You're right, but Draco's expelliarmus in the climax of HBP is more memorable than Harry's in Malfoy Manor. It's a chaotic battle involving a lot of people an a lot of spells, it's hard to remember that particular one.
I was even confused when I read The Flaw In The Plan, I had completely forgotten that Harry had disarmed him!

Yeah, but I could argue that Draco's Disarming of Dumbledore isn't as memorable when you consider the tension of the moment. Moviegoers had no idea what was going on. I'm sure people were trying to figure out at that point what was even happening.

me_potter_fan
July 10th, 2010, 7:05 am
I would feel that a flashback wouldnt really be cheap. Maybe because I cant think of another way that audiences would totally understand what is going on.

franckolat
July 10th, 2010, 7:07 am
It was just a thought. But it's like you said, how is the audience going to remember Harry disarming Draco if it occurred in the previous movie? Harry can just explain it like he did in the book but that won't mean those who haven't read the book will remember.

I'm saying that they have to put Malfoy Manor in the 2nd movie. By the way, have you all been worried about each part's running time? If they're putting Malfoy Manor in the first movie, I'm feeling that Part 1 might end up lasting 2 1/2 hours like every other movie (i.e. being overlong) and Part 2 a mere 1 1/2 hours, since the battle of hogwarts is "only" one hour long (that's what Tom Felton said).

Yeah, but I could argue that Draco's Disarming of Dumbledore isn't as memorable when you consider the tension of the moment. Moviegoers had no idea what was going on. I'm sure people were trying to figure out at that point what was even happening.

You mean, the tension was low? :O

me_potter_fan
July 10th, 2010, 7:12 am
I'm saying that they have to put Malfoy Manor in the 2nd movie. By the way, have you all been worried about each part's running time? If they're putting Malfoy Manor in the first movie, I'm feeling that Part 1 might end up lasting 2 1/2 hours like every other movie (i.e. being overlong) and Part 2 a mere 1 1/2 hours, since the battle of hogwarts is "only" one hour long (that's what Tom Felton said).


I remember reading an interview somewhere I think it was with the editor Mark Day(not 100% sure) that said that each part is 2 hours and 20 mins approx.

ActingDude17
July 10th, 2010, 7:13 am
You mean, the tension was low? :O

No, I mean it was high. I think I was pretty clear.

katana
July 10th, 2010, 7:13 am
Just watched the new bts from tonight!
Loved seeing Ron/Hermione in the COS! That shot of Hermione watching snatchers(?) walk by is odd.
Fun clips! Wonder what we'll get tomorrow?

franckolat
July 10th, 2010, 7:27 am
No, I mean it was high. I think I was pretty clear.

Ok sorry. So you're saying that they won't remember it because the scene was too intense???? I think that's the reason why they would remember it.

I remember reading an interview somewhere I think it was with the editor Mark Day(not 100% sure) that said that each part is 2 hours and 20 mins approx.

I'm happy then!
I still think the Malfoy Manor scene fits more with Part 2 because it's so important for the rest of the book:
-Bellatrix's wand
-Bellatrix saying something about the vault
-Harry becoming the owner of the Elder Wand
-Aberforth's help explained later

nicholasmanning
July 10th, 2010, 7:33 am
Ok sorry. So you're saying that they won't remember it because the scene was too intense???? I think that's the reason why they would remember it.



I'm happy then!
I still think the Malfoy Manor scene fits more with Part 2 because it's so important for the rest of the book:
-Bellatrix's wand
-Bellatrix saying something about the vault
-Harry becoming the owner of the Elder Wand
-Aberforth's help explained later

well that would make each movie 2 hours and only 10 minutes with 10 minutes of credits i would prefer a 2 hour and 25 minute for each part

me_potter_fan
July 10th, 2010, 7:43 am
I found the interview: http://www.theworstseats.co.uk/2010/04/08/interview-mark-day-film-editor/

How much film do you have to discard on a feature film like Harry Potter?
I can’t give you the exact figure of the amount of film I discard but when you think that two units have been shooting Harry Potter (the final two films) almost continuously for a year and each film is about 2hrs 20 mins on average then it doesn’t take a genius to work out that the ratio is pretty high!

ActingDude17
July 10th, 2010, 7:43 am
Ok sorry. So you're saying that they won't remember it because the scene was too intense???? I think that's the reason why they would remember it.

I never said they won't remember the scene. I said they may not remember Draco disarming Dumbledore because of their attention to the overall action at hand. If I was experiencing the story for the first time I would wondering why things were going like they were. A simple disarming would barely register in my mind.

franckolat
July 10th, 2010, 7:46 am
well that would make each movie 2 hours and only 10 minutes with 10 minutes of credits i would prefer a 2 hour and 25 minute for each part

It's perfect for me. I think OOTP (2h18) and POA (2h21) are advantaged by their length.

I never said they won't remember the scene. I said they may not remember Draco disarming Dumbledore because of their attention to the overall action at hand. If I was experiencing the story for the first time I would wondering why things were going like they were. A simple disarming would barely register in my mind.

Not really IMO. But thank you for making me understand.

HPFanNewbie
July 10th, 2010, 7:57 am
If you think Malfoy Manor is the split point then maybe the scene they added was Dobby showing up in the cell in the basement "Dobby has come to save Harry Potter" You get some resolution because the trio is no longer alone and we were reminded about how elfish magic can do things some wizards can't by Kreachers Tale in the beginning so we have hope and feel like the trio will get out of it, yet it would be a simple scene to add that would take some of the edge off the cliff hanger moment. I am still a fan of a Shell Cottage split, but I could see Dobby's arrival being a sort of resolution if the split were to be at Malfoy Manor. Does that make sense?

iamwood
July 10th, 2010, 8:05 am
If you think Malfoy Manor is the split point then maybe the scene they added was Dobby showing up in the cell in the basement "Dobby has come to save Harry Potter" You get some resolution because the trio is no longer alone and we were reminded about how elfish magic can do things some wizards can't by Kreachers Tale in the beginning so we have hope and feel like the trio will get out of it, yet it would be a simple scene to add that would take some of the edge off the cliff hanger moment. I am still a fan of a Shell Cottage split, but I could see Dobby's arrival being a sort of resolution if the split were to be at Malfoy Manor. Does that make sense?

This could work logically, but I really don't see it being the cinematic ending Heyman has been talking about. Here's an elf to save the day! Roll the credits. I hope not :no:

me_potter_fan
July 10th, 2010, 8:08 am
Yea that ending just wouldnt work everyone would be like "What the beep...". The ending needs to be just after Dobby's funeral.

HPFanNewbie
July 10th, 2010, 8:16 am
Don't get me wrong, I will still be bummed if it isnt a Shell cottage split after the burial. When I first heard the movies were split I immediately thought that was the ideal point so if it isn't I think I will be pretty annoyed because it is how I have pictured the movies being split for months now. :) I just think there is way too much suspense to end at Malfoy Manor to feel like you could walk out of the theater with the film ending there and not being aggitated. But I am trying to think of ways that it could have a little more resolution.

FutureAuthor13
July 10th, 2010, 8:21 am
Don't get me wrong, I will still be bummed if it isnt a Shell cottage split after the burial. When I first heard the movies were split I immediately thought that was the ideal point so if it isn't I think I will be pretty annoyed because it is how I have pictured the movies being split for months now. :) I just think there is way too much suspense to end at Malfoy Manor to feel like you could walk out of the theater with the film ending there and not being aggitated. But I am trying to think of ways that it could have a little more resolution.

I agree that splitting at Shell cottage after Dobby's burial (:() would be one of the best places to stop the first part- as it gives the audience a slight breather after all the suspense and action at Malfoy's Manor.

But, in my opinion, the audience needs reminding about what the Trio are up against; how the darkness of Voldemort is taking over the entire world- both Wizarding and Muggle.

I think there should be a slow panning out of the camera at Dobby's Gravestone (so the audience can see "Here lies Dobby, a free elf"), then give us a full view of Shell Cottage and the surrounding area. In the distance, an ominous black cloud looms into view, with a shape rather like the Dark Mark within it...

Just my opinion, though. :)

franckolat
July 10th, 2010, 8:29 am
Yea that ending just wouldnt work everyone would be like "What the beep...". The ending needs to be just after Dobby's funeral.

Like, Harry staring at the ocean with a desperate look on his face? I like it.

But if it's anything else than that, I prefer an ending after the trio's getting caught. Like, a distraught Harry saying "I'm so sorry..." to Ron and Hermione while the snatchers tie their hands behind their backs and sad music is on. Ok, maybe I've watched too much Prison Break in my life. But that would make a great ending.
And then the next film begins with that horrific manor scene that will put every one in the mood.

MasterOfDeath
July 10th, 2010, 8:31 am
Splitting after Dobby's burial is the ultimate and only good ending at this point. They have shown so much of part 2, a literal cliffhanger (ala splitting as they are captured) won't work at all since everyone has seen the trio make into part 2 alive and free. :lol: So there's no point.

Nah, an emotional split is really the best way to go, IMO.

I'm envisioning the ending for part 1 like this:

It's dawn at Shell Cottage, Dobby is dead and buried. Harry is standing alone looking at the ocean and we hear a ghostly echo of Dumbledore saying, "We must all face the choice between what is right...and what is easy." Ron and Hermione join Harry and he tells them that he understands now why Dumbledore kept the Hallows a secret from him and that Dumbledore knew what he was doing. He denounces his desire to seek out the Hallows and vows to find the rest of the horcruxes and fulfill his mission as Ron and Hermione swear to continue to stand by him. Final shot perhaps of the trio looking out over the ocean at Shell Cottage. End.

envisionlfe
July 10th, 2010, 8:35 am
I think there should be a slow panning out of the camera at Dobby's Gravestone (so the audience can see "Here lies Dobby, a free elf"), then give us a full view of Shell Cottage and the surrounding area. In the distance, an ominous black cloud looms into view, with a shape rather like the Dark Mark within it...

Just my opinion, though. :)

I would be very happy with that being the closing scene to the first movie. It's important to manufacture suspense in the viewer, so that they will come back to the next film. However, I believe it also needs to be at a time when the viewers are sedated. Dobby's death will leave most people with a calm, albeit, sorrowful feeling.

franckolat
July 10th, 2010, 8:40 am
Splitting after Dobby's burial is the ultimate and only good ending at this point. They have shown so much of part 2, a literal cliffhanger (ala splitting as they are captured) won't work at all since everyone has seen the trio make into part 2 alive and free. :lol: So there's no point.

Nah, an emotional split is really the best way to go, IMO.

I'm envisioning the ending for part 1 like this:

It's dawn at Shell Cottage, Dobby is dead and buried. Harry is standing alone looking at the ocean and we hear a ghostly echo of Dumbledore saying, "We must all face the choice between what is right...and what is easy." Ron and Hermione join Harry and he tells them that he understands now why Dumbledore kept the Hallows a secret from him and that Dumbledore knew what he was doing. He denounces his desire to seek out the Hallows and vows to find the rest of the horcruxes and fulfill his mission as Ron and Hermione swear to continue to stand by him. Final shot perhaps is the trio looking out over the ocean at Shell Cottage. End.

The HBP ending again? I prefer Harry alone and silentful. Or Ron joining him and putting an arm around his shoulders, only Ron, to make up for the HBP scandal :P That would be nice.

MoodysMagicEye
July 10th, 2010, 8:48 am
I just seen both videos nice to see videos focusing specifically on parts we'll be seeing in November not next July!! I love the way the snatchers seem to be being portrayed as specialist rather than just Fenrir Greyback and his riff-raff (perhaps they were all werewolves). I also think they should end it just after Dobby's burial I think the Malfoy Manor sequence along with the snatcher sequence would make for a better finale than just the chase and a more complete ending.

oierem
July 10th, 2010, 9:44 am
It's dawn at Shell Cottage, Dobby is dead and buried. Harry is standing alone looking at the ocean and we hear a ghostly echo of Dumbledore saying, "We must all face the choice between what is right...and what is easy." Ron and Hermione join Harry and he tells them that he understands now why Dumbledore kept the Hallows a secret from him and that Dumbledore knew what he was doing. He denounces his desire to seek out the Hallows and vows to find the rest of the horcruxes and fulfill his mission as Ron and Hermione swear to continue to stand by him. Final shot perhaps of the trio looking out over the ocean at Shell Cottage. End.

Perhaps intercutting with Voldemort finally the Elder Wand and casting the Dark Mark? clap:
Both Harry and Voldemort are now ready for the last step, they've made different decissions (regarding the Hallows -how to face Death)and we will see who was right and who was wrong.

meesha1971
July 10th, 2010, 9:47 am
Seeing the action scenes doesn't really bother me. What I'm looking forward to most are the emotionally-driven scenes that will make the movie truly great.

That's a good point. A lot of the action is pretty much a given - especially Harry having a final confrontation with Voldemort. Personally, I don't mind if they show a lot of footage - it's not like we don't know the overall plot already. The only real mystery for us is which scenes were kept, what was cut, and what kind of changes they made - and I would prefer to know about those things to prepare myself.

Nice to see that Warner Brothers have confirmed there will be new footage at Comic Con :)

Someone posted this on MuggleNet, concerned much?

Posted by: Kovilen Reddy
My bro works on the post production editing of the series. Xeno scenes are very limited and only 4 horcruxes are explained. . Fred, We won't see his death but its implied. No one witnesses the courtyard scene, its just them two. And they had to edit the pensieve storyline cos snape was not given a strong enough storyline. The **** has hit the fans (which is us) and its hbp again. Brilliant trailer, damaged movie

I'm not all that concerned. Even if that is true, there's not much to worry about, IMO. Xenophilius only had two appearances in the book - briefly seen at the wedding and a full scene when the trio visit him - so I would expect his appearances in the film to be limited. There are only 4 official Horcruxes left for them to find with Harry being the "accidental Horcrux" explained in the end so that fits. Fred's death wasn't technically seen in the book because of the explosion so I don't think that would be a problem as long as they remain consistent and capture the tragedy of the moment. I expected TPT to be cut a lot because a lot of that was just filler to make it fit as a separate chapter - there are over 20 memories and I never believed they would include all of them. They cut the memories for HBP down to 3 and focused on what was important and I always expected them to do something like that with TPT as well. And we've already seen that they screwed up the final battle in the trailer so I'm prepared for that to be disappointing.

Every time I see one of these reports, I'm reminded of Ferris Bueller's Day Off - My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who works on the production crew of Deathly Hallows and she said they're totally changing everything!

Thank you, Simone.

I should find a screencap - that would make a good signature. :lol:

Well we can't know if this is true or not. It could just be some guy.

Well aren't there only four horcruxes left?

The Prince's Tale was always going to be cut down. Thank goodness.

Exactly. :agree:

Splitting after Dobby's burial is the ultimate and only good ending at this point. They have shown so much of part 2, a literal cliffhanger (ala splitting as they are captured) won't work at all since everyone has seen the trio make into part 2 alive and free. :lol: So there's no point.

Nah, an emotional split is really the best way to go, IMO.

I'm envisioning the ending for part 1 like this:

It's dawn at Shell Cottage, Dobby is dead and buried. Harry is standing alone looking at the ocean and we hear a ghostly echo of Dumbledore saying, "We must all face the choice between what is right...and what is easy." Ron and Hermione join Harry and he tells them that he understands now why Dumbledore kept the Hallows a secret from him and that Dumbledore knew what he was doing. He denounces his desire to seek out the Hallows and vows to find the rest of the horcruxes and fulfill his mission as Ron and Hermione swear to continue to stand by him. Final shot perhaps of the trio looking out over the ocean at Shell Cottage. End.

That sounds pretty good. I could see them doing something similar with Harry being alone, saying something like that to Dobby's grave and then Ron and Hermione come up to join him - showing that he won't have to face it alone.

In watching the new segments, I'm starting to wonder if they have shortened the time that Ron will be gone. It was a matter of weeks in the book, but if I remember correctly, he left sometime around the end of November and came back right after Christmas. I don't know how the weather patterns are in England - or Scotland - for November, but if it's unusual for snow that time of year, then maybe they're having Ron leave shortly before Christmas and return shortly after. Then again, it's not uncommon to have snow in November here so they might not have changed that.

I'm not sure about the shot where Ron has a sling on and it looks like there is snow on the ground. I can't tell if that actually is snow or not. The other Hogsmeade shot looks like a different scene because the lighting is different. I'm thinking that the trio is not in Hogsmeade in that one shot. There is a mention in the book of them taking some eggs from a farmhouse that first night after they escape from the Ministry. Perhaps this is an extended version of that - showing what they went through to get the eggs with whoever owns the farm having a guard dog.

The Forest Run was cute - I love seeing those little behind the scenes moments that show the off screen friendship between the three of them. They turned it into a race to see who could run the fastest - too funny. WHOOSH! :lol:

MoodysMagicEye
July 10th, 2010, 10:17 am
In watching the new segments, I'm starting to wonder if they have shortened the time that Ron will be gone. It was a matter of weeks in the book, but if I remember correctly, he left sometime around the end of November and came back right after Christmas. I don't know how the weather patterns are in England - or Scotland - for November, but if it's unusual for snow that time of year, then maybe they're having Ron leave shortly before Christmas and return shortly after. Then again, it's not uncommon to have snow in November here so they might not have changed that.

It depends where abouts in the UK they are when Ron goes, the further north you go the more likely you are to see snow, snow in November in southern England would be uncommon. So I'm not sure if they have shorten the period of time and obviously the weather at the time of filming would dictate this to some degree. I think the period of time as we see it on the screen is more important because if its 5 minutes it will have less of an impact than if were to be 20 minutes, the Godric's Hollow sequences should take up a fair amount of time so I don't see this being a problem.

lcbaseball22
July 10th, 2010, 11:26 am
Is there a version of the 3rd sneak peek somewhere with better sound? :whistle:

BlackCatScott
July 10th, 2010, 11:56 am
Is there a version of the 3rd sneak peek somewhere with better sound? :whistle:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZNP4EwiyU

lcbaseball22
July 10th, 2010, 12:05 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvZNP4EwiyU

Thanks! :) Haha, now I can actually make our what they were saying that was pretty funny

FutureAuthor13
July 10th, 2010, 12:11 pm
Thanks! :) Haha, now I can actually make our what they were saying that was pretty funny

Haha, a "race at the red carpet." Now that is something I'd pay to see...now we just need Alan Rickman (Snape) and Michael Gambon (Dumbledore) to join in... :lol:

Perhaps Helena Bonham Carter (Bellatrix) will out run them all, though... :lol:

FilmGirl27
July 10th, 2010, 12:13 pm
I just watched the new clips. :) Everything looks great. I don't mind that Harry isn't under the invisiblity cloak in the cafe, I'm not a purist. Though it is kind of stupid of them to go in somewhere like that after the wedding's just been destroyed (and in the Harry won't disguise himself there) and then not assume that they might be followed, lol. :lol:

Also, nice to get a glimpse of the Chamber of Secrets. :agree: DH is going to work out for the non readers as a throwback to CoS, what with this and Dobby and all. Hopefully virtually everyone of importance in each film will turn up for the Battle of Hogwarts, that would just be continuity on an epic scale. :)

Do we know if Grawp or Buckbeak will turn up in the battle?

meesha1971
July 10th, 2010, 12:16 pm
It depends where abouts in the UK they are when Ron goes, the further north you go the more likely you are to see snow, snow in November in southern England would be uncommon. So I'm not sure if they have shorten the period of time and obviously the weather at the time of filming would dictate this to some degree. I think the period of time as we see it on the screen is more important because if its 5 minutes it will have less of an impact than if were to be 20 minutes, the Godric's Hollow sequences should take up a fair amount of time so I don't see this being a problem.

I agree. In terms of the actual amount of time - i.e. 3 weeks versus 6 weeks - I don't think it would make much of a difference. But the amount of time on screen would be noticeable. If Ron left and there was only one scene before he returned, it wouldn't have as much impact because that would make it appear that he was only gone for a day or so. We need to see that he is gone for a while - at least a few weeks I think.

I think there are two things that need to be demonstrated there to get the full impact of Ron leaving - Harry and Hermione falling apart and being completely miserable and unproductive while he's gone and Godric's Hollow. I expect some type of montage for the first that will demonstrate time passing.

FutureAuthor13
July 10th, 2010, 12:16 pm
Do we know if Grawp or Buckbeak will turn up in the battle?

It's not been mentioned, as far as I'm aware. Both of them turn up in the book and since we've already seen both characters in the films at least once, I think it's fair to asssume that it's more than likely that they will be. :)

...At least, I hope so. :lol:

me_potter_fan
July 10th, 2010, 12:30 pm
What about the acromantulas I am really hoping that we will see them climb up the walls but I have a feeling that they will be cut.

FilmGirl27
July 10th, 2010, 12:33 pm
I think there are two things that need to be demonstrated there to get the full impact of Ron leaving - Harry and Hermione falling apart and being completely miserable and unproductive while he's gone and Godric's Hollow. I expect some type of montage for the first that will demonstrate time passing.

:agree: I agree a montage would work well. I think they should show Harry and Hermione starting to fail in everything they try and start to become desparate.

IMO, they could show that by having a scene (didn't they say there was going to be a scene where Harry chased a rabbit or something?) before Ron leaves of them gathering food like the mushrooms, and after Ron leaves show the mushrooms running out or Harry and Hermione struggling to find food and becoming even more scruffy and desparate. They also would have no leads horcrux-wise, leading to them going to Godric's Hollow out of hope, and then their confidence is shaken again. :agree: That would really give a sense they're completely lost.

It's not been mentioned, as far as I'm aware. Both of them turn up in the book and since we've already seen both characters in the films at least once, I think it's fair to asssume that it's more than likely that they will be. :)

...At least, I hope so. :lol:

:D Yeah me too. I really hope they show Buckbeak, he'd be a good throwback to PoA. And there would be close to no point of introducing Grawp at all if they don't include him in the battle.

Fingers crossed. :)

What about the acromantulas I am really hoping that we will see them climb up the walls but I have a feeling that they will be cut.

I think I read somewhere in an interview or something that the spiders will be there. :)

MoodysMagicEye
July 10th, 2010, 1:02 pm
I think there are two things that need to be demonstrated there to get the full impact of Ron leaving - Harry and Hermione falling apart and being completely miserable and unproductive while he's gone and Godric's Hollow. I expect some type of montage for the first that will demonstrate time passing.
:agree: I agree a montage would work well. I think they should show Harry and Hermione starting to fail in everything they try and start to become desparate.

IMO, they could show that by having a scene (didn't they say there was going to be a scene where Harry chased a rabbit or something?) before Ron leaves of them gathering food like the mushrooms, and after Ron leaves show the mushrooms running out or Harry and Hermione struggling to find food and becoming even more scruffy and desparate. They also would have no leads horcrux-wise, leading to them going to Godric's Hollow out of hope, and then their confidence is shaken again. :agree: That would really give a sense they're completely lost.

Not to mention the loss of Harry's wand thats a massive blow in itself.

I think a montage could work quite well to start off with so:

* Montage
* The scene David Heyman has talked about, where Harry and Hermione grow closer in Ron's absense
* Possibly the scene were the Death Eater stops the train and/or Luna's capture (if its to be shown)
* Godric's Hollow: arriving / Graveyard scene
* Bathilda's Secret / Nagini attack
* Seeing James & Lily's death via Voldemorts memory (if include)
* Reaction to the loss of Harry's and possibly The Life And Lies of Albus Dumledore
* Silver Doe (leading up to Rons return)

Thats the basic gist of what I think will happen, I'm not very good at analysis of time in this respect, but I can says that, its going to take up a fair chunk of time
:tu:

jallen
July 10th, 2010, 1:02 pm
I haven't read the last several pages of posts so I'm not sure if anybody's addressed this yet, but in the shot in the ABC previews where it lists all the cast and crew (near the end), it's talking about both parts, and yet it lists Alexandre Desplat as the composer. Comments?

Jonny7003
July 10th, 2010, 1:10 pm
I haven't read the last several pages of posts so I'm not sure if anybody's addressed this yet, but in the shot in the ABC previews where it lists all the cast and crew (near the end), it's talking about both parts, and yet it lists Alexandre Desplat as the composer. Comments?

I assume they just put Desplat because no composer has been confirmed for Part II yet.

FilmGirl27
July 10th, 2010, 1:15 pm
Not to mention the loss of Harry's wand thats a massive blow in itself.

I think a montage could work quite well to start off with so:

* Montage
* The scene David Heyman has talked about, where Harry and Hermione grow closer in Ron's absense
* Possibly the scene were the Death Eater stops the train and/or Luna's capture (if its to be shown)
* Godric's Hollow: arriving / Graveyard scene
* Bathilda's Secret / Nagini attack
* Seeing James & Lily's death via Voldemorts memory (if include)
* Reaction to the loss of Harry's and possibly The Life And Lies of Albus Dumledore
* Silver Doe (leading up to Rons return)

Thats the basic gist of what I think will happen, I'm not very good at analysis of time in this respect, but I can says that, its going to take up a fair chunk of time
:tu:

:agree: Yeah, that sounds about right. There will definately be a sense that the trio has fallen apart, that Harry and Hermione are really in quite a spot of bother, and then Ron can come to save the day. That will work really well on screen, showing the trio are falling apart without Ron, that they need to stay together in order to get through this all. :agree:

I haven't read the last several pages of posts so I'm not sure if anybody's addressed this yet, but in the shot in the ABC previews where it lists all the cast and crew (near the end), it's talking about both parts, and yet it lists Alexandre Desplat as the composer. Comments?

I haven't heard most of Desplat's work, so I don't want to judge him yet, but I was kind of hoping John Williams would come back, just so he could compose the music as the Hogwarts Express leaves again in the last scene. That would be really lovely. But I can't wait to hear Desplat's score.

I think we did kind of hear it? Wasn't it playing in the backround of the HP website at some stage on the night the trailer was released? If that was it, it is great, just so creepy. :)

franckolat
July 10th, 2010, 4:39 pm
I think there are two things that need to be demonstrated there to get the full impact of Ron leaving - Harry and Hermione falling apart and being completely miserable and unproductive while he's gone and Godric's Hollow. I expect some type of montage for the first that will demonstrate time passing.

I think they should totally do a one-month spinning shot of Hermione like the New Moon director did for Bella!

FutureAuthor13
July 10th, 2010, 4:43 pm
I assume they just put Desplat because no composer has been confirmed for Part II yet.

Does anyone know why they are using a completely different composer(s) for Deathly Hallows? :shrug: I felt that Nicholas Hooper did a fantastic job on the Halfblood Prince and that there was no need to replace him.

franckolat
July 10th, 2010, 4:49 pm
Does anyone know why they are using a completely different composer(s) for Deathly Hallows? :shrug: I felt that Nicholas Hooper did a fantastic job on the Halfblood Prince and that there was no need to replace him.

I think Nicholas Hooper was such an incompetent. I didn't like the new themes he composed... but wait, he composed no theme for Harry Potter, only forgettable seven-or-eight-notes motifs!!!

FilmGirl27
July 10th, 2010, 4:51 pm
Does anyone know why they are using a completely different composer(s) for Deathly Hallows? :shrug: I felt that Nicholas Hooper did a fantastic job on the Halfblood Prince and that there was no need to replace him.

No idea. :shrug: I agree, Hooper did an amazing job. All the music in HBP was perfect. I wonder how Desplat will compare, he did a great job with Fantastic Mr Fox and Benjamin Button. :)


I was reading back the thread, and I'm pretty sure that comment on Mugglenet was fake, though it did alarm me. Though all the things said in interviews point that we will see Fred die. He's one of my favorite characters though, and if that was only implied in the film, I would kick Steve Kloves, really, really hard. :lol:

What do you guys think the First Looks will focuss on next?

boushh
July 10th, 2010, 4:52 pm
I think they should totally do a one-month spinning shot of Hermione like the New Moon director did for Bella!

I hope not. I think they will show a handful of scenes without Ron to show the passage of time. They may even mention a date before he leaves and then when we see Christmas-time in Godric's Hollow it would give the audience an idea of how much time has passed.

gottriplets
July 10th, 2010, 4:53 pm
I think they should totally do a one-month spinning shot of Hermione like the New Moon director did for Bella!

Wasn't it like a 5 months...starting with October through February? I hope they don't do that with Hermione...I totally get motion sickness from watching spinning! :lol:

(I know this doesn't belong here, but since it's mentioned...how odd that Bella is still wearing the same clothes for 5 months...hmmm.)

Back to DH...

Shaun_MT
July 10th, 2010, 4:57 pm
Does anybody else like what Emma said about showing how much Ron and Hermione sacrifice to go with Harry?

We all know about the scene where Hermione modifies her parents memories and has to get rid of her things. But I reckon we might get a bit more of Ron and his interactions with his family before he leaves.

There is a picture I think of just Ron and Mr. Weasley having a moment. Which could be part of that sequence.

decarus
July 10th, 2010, 4:58 pm
I think they should totally do a one-month spinning shot of Hermione like the New Moon director did for Bella!

No. They can just have a few shots, but don't do this.

FilmGirl27
July 10th, 2010, 5:07 pm
Wasn't it like a 5 months...starting with October through February? I hope they don't do that with Hermione...I totally get motion sickness from watching spinning! :lol:

Haha me too. :lol: If they keep apparition like it was in HBP there will be enough spinning as it is, haha.

(I know this doesn't belong here, but since it's mentioned...how odd that Bella is still wearing the same clothes for 5 months...hmmm.)


LOL. :lol:

Does anybody else like what Emma said about showing how much Ron and Hermione sacrifice to go with Harry?

We all know about the scene where Hermione modifies her parents memories and has to get rid of her things. But I reckon we might get a bit more of Ron and his interactions with his family before he leaves.

There is a picture I think of just Ron and Mr. Weasley having a moment. Which could be part of that sequence.

Great idea! :agree: That would be really nice if they did that. I hope they show Molly stressing out over them leaving, it would really show how much she cares about the kids and set up the "Not my daughter you b***ch!" line, if they keep that in. Any nice Weasley moment before the wedding or so would be really cute. :agree:

franckolat
July 10th, 2010, 5:12 pm
Wasn't it like a 5 months...starting with October through February? I hope they don't do that with Hermione...I totally get motion sickness from watching spinning! :lol:

(I know this doesn't belong here, but since it's mentioned...how odd that Bella is still wearing the same clothes for 5 months...hmmm.)

Back to DH...

I was joking, but that would make a nice little reference to the other franchise!

I didn't know she had kept the same clothes! Weird.

Shaun_MT
July 10th, 2010, 5:25 pm
Great idea! :agree: That would be really nice if they did that. I hope they show Molly stressing out over them leaving, it would really show how much she cares about the kids and set up the "Not my daughter you b***ch!" line, if they keep that in. Any nice Weasley moment before the wedding or so would be really cute. :agree:

They all knew Ron was going but didn't know when. I'm sure Molly was in denial about it so probably wanted to say goodbye or something but couldn't. Ginny sorta said goodbye to Harry. But I can imagine Bill, Charlie and Mr. Weasley telling him good luck and to be careful and even twins in their own way telling him "try not to muck it up". Because the way things were, I think they knew Ron could have been going any minute so they said goodbyes before the wedding.

I always liked the Weasley's parts at the Burrow in the books. The gnomes in COS, the Quidditch playing in HBP (it's not explicit, but it gives a nice vibe) and the whole Quidditch world cup part in GOF. You got Bill and Charlie, Percy working in his room, the twins making their joke magic... I think Rowling perfectly captured what a crowded, but lively household is like.

At the wedding I want a family photo. With Harry being pulled in and telling them "But I'm not family", but all the Weasley's insisting he is =)

FilmGirl27
July 10th, 2010, 5:43 pm
They all knew Ron was going but didn't know when. I'm sure Molly was in denial about it so probably wanted to say goodbye or something but couldn't. Ginny sorta said goodbye to Harry. But I can imagine Bill, Charlie and Mr. Weasley telling him good luck and to be careful and even twins in their own way telling him "try not to muck it up". Because the way things were, I think they knew Ron could have been going any minute so they said goodbyes before the wedding.

I always liked the Weasley's parts at the Burrow in the books. The gnomes in COS, the Quidditch playing in HBP (it's not explicit, but it gives a nice vibe) and the whole Quidditch world cup part in GOF. You got Bill and Charlie, Percy working in his room, the twins making their joke magic... I think Rowling perfectly captured what a crowded, but lively household is like.

At the wedding I want a family photo. With Harry being pulled in and telling them "But I'm not family", but all the Weasley's insisting he is =)

:tu: Those are really great ideas. :agree: That photo idea would be fantastic, it would be a very cute moment. I'd like if they did something like that at the wedding, and I've got a good feeling they will. :)

I was thinking maybe the scene of Ron and Harry fighting could come after some scene where Harry is wondering about whether the Weasleys are alright after the attack at the wedding, maybe after the bit where he's watching Ginny on the map?

"You've got to know how this feels!"
"No you don't know how it feels! Your parents are dead! You have no family!"

Thoughts? :) (or maybe I'm just being slow and you've already gathered this :lol:)

Shaun_MT
July 10th, 2010, 6:05 pm
I think putting Harry in the family photo would also be good at showing how Ron sometimes feels Harry's taking his place. If you want to be more serious. I'd rather it be kept a cute scene with Rupert subtly looking a little peeved.

I think he wedding scene could be so much fun in the film. I can also see Fleur throwing the bouquet (if wizards have them =) and either Ginny with Harry catching it or Hermione with Ron.

Or it could be more serious and Hermione with Harry could catch it which would hack Ron off.

I wouldn't mind Harry and Ginny dancing as their goodbye.

I was thinking maybe the scene of Ron and Harry fighting could come after some scene where Harry is wondering about whether the Weasleys are alright after the attack at the wedding, maybe after the bit where he's watching Ginny on the map?

"You've got to know how this feels!"
"No you don't know how it feels! Your parents are dead! You have no family!"

Thoughts? :) (or maybe I'm just being slow and you've already gathered this :lol:)

Harry fighting with Ron comes quite a bit after the wedding. In the book they overhead the "exiles" talking about the Weasley's, but I don't know if they're including that in the film. Maybe Harry could be looking at Ginny on the map and sees she's gone to Dumbledore's office to steal the sword. Then the name "Severus Snape" appears and catches her and we can sorta see him dragging her (all on the map) and that gets Ron worked up?

I do wonder how they're gonna do it if they don't include Griphook, Ted and co. I'm sure they'll find a way though =)

FilmGirl27
July 10th, 2010, 6:30 pm
I think he wedding scene could be so much fun in the film. I can also see Fleur throwing the bouquet (if wizards have them =) and either Ginny with Harry catching it or Hermione with Ron.

Yeah, I think so too. :D I can imagine a lot of fun and jokes there. Twins moments glore, I think. And yeah, some serious bits too. I like your ideas for Ron there, and I really hope Harry and Ginny dance too. :D

Harry fighting with Ron comes quite a bit after the wedding. In the book they overhead the "exiles" talking about the Weasley's, but I don't know if they're including that in the film. Maybe Harry could be looking at Ginny on the map and sees she's gone to Dumbledore's office to steal the sword. Then the name "Severus Snape" appears and catches her and we can sorta see him dragging her (all on the map) and that gets Ron worked up?

That would be good I guess. :agree: I can imagine Harry checking on the map and seeing Ginny, Neville and Luna rush into Snape's office, then rush back out. Harry would be interested and tell Ron and Hermione. Ron being hungry and locketised (lol) would start to lash out. Then after the scene where Ron leaves it could start to rain or something, camara goes down to where the map is lying, and we see that Snape is dragging Luna, Neville and Ginny away. :)

I do wonder how they're gonna do it if they don't include Griphook, Ted and co. I'm sure they'll find a way though =)

No idea. :shrug:

Xyluss
July 10th, 2010, 8:01 pm
I agree about the Nagini attack. I was actually shocked when I saw that scene because it was so bright and clean, yet something so bad is happening. It's actually creepier than I imagined when reading the book because Nagini looks so out of place. I wonder if they made the setting like that so the audience would not anticipate something happening. That's like the last place you expect to see a giant snake.

If that's what they were going for. They shouldn't have. Unnecessary to change it. It would be the same fail as Voldemort, though voldemort was a bigger fail by far. Blue eye??? no cold high voice??????? Lame. Those were his trademark appearances. those deep red eyes with slits for pupils and that cold high voice. that's the first thing that comes to mind when I think of Voldemort. They said, more or less, that they wanted voldemort to seem more human. that it would be more frightening for him to have regular eyes and a normal voice to make it seem like more frightening for him to be so evil. wrong. seems like they were going along the same thinking for the nagini scene.

After listening to the Mugglecast last night, I kind of agree with them that the scene of Hermione walking alone might be her with Harry in Godric's Hollow. Remember Harry was under the invisibility cloak...
In the book though, they are disguised as the old man and the old woman, so unless they decided to drop that idea for the films, this doesn't make sense on second thought...
In a previous clip we had seen Hermione swipe her hand over a tombstone to see the word Peverell underneath the snow. I don't recall if her hand looked like that of an old woman, but if not, then maybe they are dropping that piece and leaving them as themselves?

I never noticed the "gold man" there before...heck I have not noticed half the details you all have. I keep having to view the trailer to keep up...but maybe that has something to do with the ghosts of Sirius, his mother and father...maybe they changed it so they are with him in the battle and not just when he comes to die? I am not sure what else it could be, but I am sure if it is them, they tried to edit them out, so we wouldn't see too much, but missed some.
In the beginning I did think they showed a little too much...but now thinking about it there really is so much we have not seen. I agree with whoever said it earlier...I do not want to see any of the Kings Cross scene until the film because that was amazing in the book and really would give away the ending for those viewing the trailer without reading the books.

hmm. I'm not sure about any of that, but if they have made all of those changes, then thumbs down for them.

Noldus
July 10th, 2010, 8:21 pm
I wouldn't mind if Voldemort's eyes were green, but I'm glad they changed his eye colour from the book nevertheless. It must be kinda difficult to read a person's feelings (or lack of thereof) and motive if he has red eyes :whistle:

Fhaps
July 10th, 2010, 8:25 pm
I wouldn't mind if Voldemort's eyes were green, but I'm glad they changed his eye colour from the book nevertheless. It must be kinda difficult to read a person's feelings (or lack of thereof) or motive if he has red eyes :whistle:

Yeah, and that's the actual reason of the change, they explained it when the Goblet of Fire came out... I agree with them.

FilmGirl27
July 10th, 2010, 8:28 pm
If that's what they were going for. They shouldn't have. Unnecessary to change it. It would be the same fail as Voldemort, though voldemort was a bigger fail by far. Blue eye??? no cold high voice??????? Lame. Those were his trademark appearances. those deep red eyes with slits for pupils and that cold high voice. that's the first thing that comes to mind when I think of Voldemort. They said, more or less, that they wanted voldemort to seem more human. that it would be more frightening for him to have regular eyes and a normal voice to make it seem like more frightening for him to be so evil. wrong. seems like they were going along the same thinking for the nagini scene.

Firstly, IMO, it was completely necessary to change it. It worked in the book, but in a movie, honestly- Harry and Hermione walk into a creepy old house with a creepy old woman who is a total stranger. The audience would know in an instant they are about to be attacked. IMO, that would be stupid not to change. :) Also, you create alot of drama by putting Harry in his old bedroom.

Secondly, I don't think you should bash that hard on Voldemort's appearence. So what he doesn't have red eyes or a cold voice?! Does it honestly matter that much? Yes, that was how he was frequently described in the books, but would it work on film? I think the Voldemort of PS showed that the answer is no. His voice was as described, but he felt like a really cliched villian, and red eyes would not have helped. I think he is way better off with Ralph Fiennes and the look he has now. I'm not a purist.

Just my opinion.

meesha1971
July 10th, 2010, 8:29 pm
They all knew Ron was going but didn't know when. I'm sure Molly was in denial about it so probably wanted to say goodbye or something but couldn't. Ginny sorta said goodbye to Harry. But I can imagine Bill, Charlie and Mr. Weasley telling him good luck and to be careful and even twins in their own way telling him "try not to muck it up". Because the way things were, I think they knew Ron could have been going any minute so they said goodbyes before the wedding.

I always liked the Weasley's parts at the Burrow in the books. The gnomes in COS, the Quidditch playing in HBP (it's not explicit, but it gives a nice vibe) and the whole Quidditch world cup part in GOF. You got Bill and Charlie, Percy working in his room, the twins making their joke magic... I think Rowling perfectly captured what a crowded, but lively household is like.

At the wedding I want a family photo. With Harry being pulled in and telling them "But I'm not family", but all the Weasley's insisting he is =)

I think it makes more sense that they don't have a big goodbye scene. It emphasizes the isolation they feel later because their departure from the Burrow was abrupt and forced by the Death Eaters attacking. Hermione was prepared for the possibility that they might have to leave suddenly, but Harry hadn't thought about it. I don't think Ron had either. Harry had a private moment with Ginny in which they were saying goodbye, but it was interrupted by Ron because he didn't realize that's what they were doing. Not having a proper goodbye also adds to the tension created from worrying about what happened to the Weasleys with the attack on the wedding after they make it to Grimmauld Place and are safe and later when they are isolated and have no idea what's going on with the rest of the world.

There are things I would like to see with the scenes at the Burrow though because they emphasize that Harry is part of the family and what he - as well as Ron and Hermione - would lose if anything happened to the Weasleys while they were off on their mission.

Molly giving Harry Fabian's watch as a birthday present because that was something that made Harry feel as though he was part of the family. It was more personal than buying a new watch and it meant a lot to Harry. I'd also like to see Harry with that watch in the episode to show that he still has it and treasures it. Harry could have easily afforded a new watch, but it wouldn't have meant as much to him as the one Molly gave him.

Harry and Ginny of course - but I have no idea how they're going to fix the mess they made in OOTP. I'm hoping they have added some believable scenes at the Burrow to finally establish their relationship on screen. A moment between Ron and Hermione would be good too - I was hoping they would include them dancing together at the wedding, but there was an early set report that indicated it was changed for some reason. Still, I hope there is at least one good Ron/Hermione moment while they're at the Burrow.

I'd like to see that moment just before the wedding where the trio and the twins are talking because they were so relaxed - joking around about old Uncle Bilius and just having fun. Things like that add would emphasis to the intensity and shock of the sudden Death Eater attack, IMO.

I also like the idea of them doing a family photograph at the wedding and insisting that Harry and Hermione are included.

Alrighty, I am back for another day of clip uploading. Lol. I got the full "Forest Run" in High Quality for everyone, ill have it up in about 30 - 45 minutes, and im ready to see the new clips! Now, we got 2 new clips with Chamber of Secrets, so i'm guessing maybe 1 or 2 with Prisoner of Azkaban and Goblet of Fire today.

Thanks for recording and uploading these. It's nice to have good quality clips. Could you post a link? I forgot to bookmark it yesterday.

Noldus
July 10th, 2010, 9:15 pm
The audience would know in an instant they are about to be attacked.


Exactly, this creates suspense, but it isn't as though it reveals that she is a snake and Voldemort will arrive any minute. I think they should keep the sinister atmosphere from the book instead of making it seem like an emotional scene and then surprise the audience with a snake attack. Remember, there is no terror in the bang, only in the anticipation of it. ;)

harry5678
July 10th, 2010, 9:26 pm
Alright guys here's the 3rd Sneak Peek, "Forest Run", it's higher quality (480p) then the one up on SnitchSeeker (360p), just wait until its completely done processing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYTVHmQ86N8

And if you missed the other 2, here they are, also in 480p:
"The Story": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_09aG-2FgsU
"On The Run": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ2aS4hAqnA

EDIT: Alrighty, now Prisoner of Azkaban is on, I expect there to be at least 1 new one during Prisoner, and 1 new one during Goblet, bringing our total to 5, then again they could show 2 during prisoner or something but i guess we'll find out soon!

Fhaps
July 10th, 2010, 9:33 pm
Harry and Ginny of course - but I have no idea how they're going to fix the mess they made in OOTP. I'm hoping they have added some believable scenes at the Burrow to finally establish their relationship on screen. A moment between Ron and Hermione would be good too - I was hoping they would include them dancing together at the wedding, but there was an early set report that indicated it was changed for some reason. Still, I hope there is at least one good Ron/Hermione moment while they're at the Burrow.

Yeah, I would like to see the four of them dancing... it will be a nice contrast with the Yule Ball scene where we see Hermione having a lot of fun with Krum while Ron is angry and Harry just bored. It would show not only how much they have grown up but also that the relatrionships between them have been strenghtened

katana
July 10th, 2010, 10:02 pm
It's dawn at Shell Cottage, Dobby is dead and buried. Harry is standing alone looking at the ocean and we hear a ghostly echo of Dumbledore saying, "We must all face the choice between what is right...and what is easy." Ron and Hermione join Harry and he tells them that he understands now why Dumbledore kept the Hallows a secret from him and that Dumbledore knew what he was doing. He denounces his desire to seek out the Hallows and vows to find the rest of the horcruxes and fulfill his mission as Ron and Hermione swear to continue to stand by him. Final shot perhaps of the trio looking out over the ocean at Shell Cottage. End.

But, in my opinion, the audience needs reminding about what the Trio are up against; how the darkness of Voldemort is taking over the entire world- both Wizarding and Muggle.

I think there should be a slow panning out of the camera at Dobby's Gravestone (so the audience can see "Here lies Dobby, a free elf"), then give us a full view of Shell Cottage and the surrounding area. In the distance, an ominous black cloud looms into view, with a shape rather like the Dark Mark within it...

Just my opinion, though. :)

Perhaps intercutting with Voldemort finally the Elder Wand and casting the Dark Mark? clap:
Both Harry and Voldemort are now ready for the last step, they've made different decissions (regarding the Hallows -how to face Death)and we will see who was right and who was wrong.
I like all of these ideas. I'm more of a fan of Dobby's death split, but I like the idea of Harry realizing 'horcruxes over hallows' and I also like the idea of LV taking the Elder Wand as the final shot. Because, like FutureAuthor13 said, it reminds the audience right at the end of the darkness the trio is fighting. The other reason is, GOF ends with the trio staring out over the lake, OOTP the trio and friends walking to the train, HBP the trio staring out from the Astronomy tower, so it would be interesting to have LV obtaining the Elder Wand as the last shot for Part 1. I hope they do it.

What do you guys think the First Looks will focuss on next?
I'd like to see something more with LV. Maybe from the first chapter where the Muggle Studies teacher is killed. Or maybe more on Seven Potters.

FilmGirl27
July 10th, 2010, 10:02 pm
Exactly, this creates suspense, but it isn't as though it reveals that she is a snake and Voldemort will arrive any minute. I think they should keep the sinister atmosphere from the book instead of making it seem like an emotional scene and then surprise the audience with a snake attack. Remember, there is no terror in the bang, only in the anticipation of it. ;)

:agree: You have a point there, I agree with you. I like that they've changed it to the Potter's house, but I hope they do make it a bit creepy before Nagini comes out of Bathilda. I'm confident the music and Bathilda's weird movements should do the trick. :)

Yeah, I would like to see the four of them dancing... it will be a nice contrast with the Yule Ball scene where we see Hermione having a lot of fun with Krum while Ron is angry and Harry just bored. It would show not only how much they have grown up but also that the relatrionships between them have been strenghtened

I have a feeling Krum will get a lot of nasty looks from Ron. :lol:

Alrighty, now Prisoner of Azkaban is on, I expect there to be at least 1 new one during Prisoner, and 1 new one during Goblet, bringing our total to 5, then again they could show 2 during prisoner or something but i guess we'll find out soon!

Thanks for doing this. :tu: :)

ArryGrotter
July 10th, 2010, 10:13 pm
This was a few pages ago, but I want to address it:

Flashbacks are kind of cheap, don't you think? The movies have never used flashbacks for explanation so far.

I have always thought a flashback would be a good way to link everything together, especially as these things happened months ago and, in the case of HBP, 2 years ago for general movie goers. But they should just be short snippets. I don't think they should replay the scenes for an entire minute or anything...

And CoS had flashbacks. Yes, they weren't of things we'd already seen, but we did flash back to Ginny being controlled by the diary :)

lcbaseball22
July 10th, 2010, 10:46 pm
Alright guys here's the 3rd Sneak Peek, "Forest Run", it's higher quality (480p) then the one up on SnitchSeeker (360p), just wait until its completely done processing:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYTVHmQ86N8

And if you missed the other 2, here they are, also in 480p:
"The Story": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_09aG-2FgsU
"On The Run": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ2aS4hAqnA

EDIT: Alrighty, now Prisoner of Azkaban is on, I expect there to be at least 1 new one during Prisoner, and 1 new one during Goblet, bringing our total to 5, then again they could show 2 during prisoner or something but i guess we'll find out soon!

Thank you! :)

I think they should totally do a one-month spinning shot of Hermione like the New Moon director did for Bella!

Err, how 'bout no...that was really stupid in my opinion. It was as if she hadn't budged from her bed the entire time :rotfl:

franckolat
July 10th, 2010, 10:57 pm
Err, how 'bout no...that was really stupid in my opinion. It was as if she hadn't budged from her bed the entire time :rotfl:

I know right! But it's a smart way to show a depression in 20 seconds of screen time. I would laugh if Hermione had the same treatment in DH.

DarthSkywalker
July 10th, 2010, 11:15 pm
This was a few pages ago, but I want to address it:



I have always thought a flashback would be a good way to link everything together, especially as these things happened months ago and, in the case of HBP, 2 years ago for general movie goers. But they should just be short snippets. I don't think they should replay the scenes for an entire minute or anything...

And CoS had flashbacks. Yes, they weren't of things we'd already seen, but we did flash back to Ginny being controlled by the diary :)

All the films have told the story in a manner that is based around recollection.

SS- The night Harry became the boy who lived.

CS- The diary.

POA- Harry and Hermione retracing their steps.

GOF- The memories.

OOTP- Occlumency and when Voldemort invades Harry's mind.

HBP- The opening and memories.

It has been an important of the films and in a way how the books themselves worked.

ArryGrotter
July 10th, 2010, 11:18 pm
I think they should totally do a one-month spinning shot of Hermione like the New Moon director did for Bella!
Please no.

Hermione's depression can not be compared to Bella's. Bella is a two dimensional character that for some reason can not live without Edward (*puke*). Hermione on the other hand is strong and continues with Harry finding the Horcruxes even though she is still hurting inside about Ron. Yes, she does occasionally cry, but she does have the decency to not sit on the same chair and wear the same clothes for five months :rotfl:

franckolat
July 10th, 2010, 11:38 pm
All the films have told the story in a manner that is based around recollection.

SS- The night Harry became the boy who lived.

CS- The diary.

POA- Harry and Hermione retracing their steps.

GOF- The memories.

OOTP- Occlumency and when Voldemort invades Harry's mind.

HBP- The opening and memories.

It has been an important of the films and in a way how the books themselves worked.

You're talking about many different types of flashbacks there. None of them are used to remind the viewers of an event they've already seen.

MasterOfDeath
July 10th, 2010, 11:53 pm
Well, OOTP was full of flashbacks to the earlier films and scenes we've seen before. I think they worked fine there...

nicholasmanning
July 10th, 2010, 11:56 pm
God Please no flashbacks find another way to explain whatever it is that needs explaining but no flashbacks YUCK!!!

harry5678
July 10th, 2010, 11:57 pm
You're talking about many different types of flashbacks there. None of them are used to remind the viewers of an event they've already seen.

Actually in Goblet of Fire, when Harry tells Dumbledore about his dream of Barty Crouch Jr. It IS a Flashback of something we've already scene, same shots, same scene, all of it. It wasn't that cheap either, it just has to be done right. If it's a quick flash of Harry disarming Draco, not the ENTIRE Malfoy Manor battle, I dont think it'll be that bad at all

DarthSkywalker
July 11th, 2010, 12:02 am
You're talking about many different types of flashbacks there. None of them are used to remind the viewers of an event they've already seen.

What do you think the point of the OOTP montage is? Or having Harry visit a memory in GOF that he already has knowledge of the outcome of?

Or more importantly every bit of the crossing timeline in POA? You know where they show the exact same scenes from a different perspective. :err:

It is also far more visual interesting then just listening to people talk about things we have already seen.

Actually in Goblet of Fire, when Harry tells Dumbledore about his dream of Barty Crouch Jr. It IS a Flashback of something we've already scene, same shots, same scene, all of it. It wasn't that cheap either, it just has to be done right. If it's a quick flash of Harry disarming Draco, not the ENTIRE Malfoy Manor battle, I dont think it'll be that bad at all

Yeah forgot about that one. Don't they show the shot of all of them turning towards the door?

harry5678
July 11th, 2010, 12:10 am
Yeah forgot about that one. Don't they show the shot of all of them turning towards the door?

Yes, actually they show nearly the whole scene. Including, a PoV of the camera going towards the door, Shwoing voldemort's hand on the chair, Barty Crouch knealing down towards Voldemort, revealing the Dark Mark, then all of them turning towards the door. That IS a flashback of something we've already seen to remind the audience that the man who Harry saw in the pensieve was indeed the same man he had seen in his dreams, and well as simply recapping the dream again as he's telling Dumbledore. That was done well, and I think if they do it similar to how when Serifina Pekella is telling Lyra what to do in Golden Compass (for those of you who haven't seen the film, it's like she tells Lyra that she has to go to this place and it does a quick flash of the building for like 2 seconds, then it goes back to the scene.) What if like Harry says,

"I disarmed Draco Malfoy" [Quick flash of a Slow Motion shot of JUST Harry disarming Draco] [Cut back to Harry] "and I took this wand from him, So I am the Master of the Elder wand"

I tihnk if they did it like that it wouldn't be nearly as bad as people are making it out to be, and I dont even get what is so bad about flashbacks anyway, but okay.

harry5678
July 11th, 2010, 12:14 am
Maybe it will be between POA and GOF

Yeah, but I think we all forget how long Prisoner of Azkaban really is. There's still like another half hour of the film left. I'm thinking there will be at least ONE more commercial break and if it's not during that, then there's a guarentee we'll get something during GoF

ArryGrotter
July 11th, 2010, 12:20 am
Actually in Goblet of Fire, when Harry tells Dumbledore about his dream of Barty Crouch Jr. It IS a Flashback of something we've already scene, same shots, same scene, all of it. It wasn't that cheap either, it just has to be done right. If it's a quick flash of Harry disarming Draco, not the ENTIRE Malfoy Manor battle, I dont think it'll be that bad at all

Exactly :tu:

And yeah, people don't realise how long the climax of PoA is! It's almost an hour long (Trelawney's class to end) :lol:

Shaun_MT
July 11th, 2010, 12:21 am
Exactly :tu:

And yeah, people don't realise how long the climax of PoA is! It's almost an hour long (Trelawney's class to end) :lol:

That's good news for the climax of DH: part II =)

decarus
July 11th, 2010, 12:23 am
What do you think the point of the OOTP montage is?

I really like the montage in OotP when Harry is remembering his friends and family. Oh you are going to make me put it in. I don't really understand how people can not like OotP.

DarthSkywalker
July 11th, 2010, 12:29 am
I really like the montage in OotP when Harry is remembering his friends and family. Oh you are going to make me put it in. I don't really understand how people can not like OotP.

I personally like the film but it feels like it could be so much more. Why everyone seems so happy the split is going to happen. Hoping we get every last bit out of the final book.

DarthSkywalker
July 11th, 2010, 12:43 am
I personally dislike Ootp witha passion it's at the bottom of my list, for my own reasons, im not a purist, but as a film, it was horrible IMO, but i wont get into that here. Anyway, was there a sneak peek between PoA and Gof because i was away from the tv at the time, but i hit record just in case

This is the one problem with living on the left coast. All this waiting and even if something does show up, I have an even longer wait. :grumble:

decarus
July 11th, 2010, 12:46 am
I personally dislike Ootp witha passion it's at the bottom of my list, for my own reasons, im not a purist, but as a film, it was horrible IMO, but i wont get into that here. Anyway, was there a sneak peek between PoA and Gof because i was away from the tv at the time, but i hit record just in case

It is so strange. It is one of those things. Either people hate OotP with a passion or they really like it. It is like there is no in between. It is so strange.

It is sort of the same with with PoA. Either people hate it or love it.

I hope we get something new tonight.

ChezFisto
July 11th, 2010, 12:51 am
Sorry if this was brought up already, but why is harry lying on the ground in that one scene? I thought it might be after apparating from number 12 Grimauld Place, but I thought the scene where Harry was holding Ron and Hermione was staring around was the post-apparation scene.

harry5678
July 11th, 2010, 12:52 am
Nope :(

Well ABC Family just aired a preview during Goblet of Fire saying "the weekend continues tomorrow with Order of the Phoenix" does that mean there'll be no sneak peeks until tomorrow, or are they just reminding us that Ootp comes on tomorrow?I sure hope there's at least something new with Goblet of Fire.

EDIT: Hey! On the plus side, it's finally the extended version of Goblet of Fire! Last year they said it was extended but they just showed the normal version

decarus
July 11th, 2010, 12:55 am
Sorry if this was brought up already, but why is harry lying on the ground in that one scene? I thought it might be after apparating from number 12 Grimauld Place, but I thought the scene where Harry was holding Ron and Hermione was staring around was the post-apparation scene.

I think both shots are from after they apparate from Grimmauld Place.

Probably Harry is on the ground and he moves over to Ron's side while Hermione is trying to stop the bleeding. Once she does she stands up and puts up the protections.

9th_Wonder
July 11th, 2010, 1:05 am
We've seen "The Story" in all four movies so far. We saw "On the Run" and "Forest Run" with CoS. Hopefully we'll get at least one new sneak peek with GoF since it's airing at the same time CoS did yesterday.

MasterOfDeath
July 11th, 2010, 1:24 am
Well ABC Family just aired a preview during Goblet of Fire saying "the weekend continues tomorrow with Order of the Phoenix" does that mean there'll be no sneak peeks until tomorrow, or are they just reminding us that Ootp comes on tomorrow?I sure hope there's at least something new with Goblet of Fire.

EDIT: Hey! On the plus side, it's finally the extended version of Goblet of Fire! Last year they said it was extended but they just showed the normal version

Yeah, it was about time but GOF has been extended since December 2009. It took a while though, GOF debuted on ABC Family in Summer 2008! A year and a half.

harry5678
July 11th, 2010, 1:48 am
Yeah, it was about time but GOF has been extended since December 2009. It took a while though, GOF debuted on ABC Family in Summer 2008! A year and a half.

Yeah, at least Goblet had some interesting deleted scenes though, I wonder if Ootp will be extended with Trelawny Eating. O.O Lol. Really the only new Order of the Phoenix i'll like is the extension in the forest scene, other than that I found all the other scenes useless, I wanted to see more of that other hour they supposedly filmed, but cut, but hey i guess they're saving it for the Ultimate Edition. Lol.

Gosh, still nothing, but I saw "On The Run" again

MasterOfDeath
July 11th, 2010, 1:50 am
Yeah, at least Goblet had some interesting deleted scenes though, I wonder if Ootp will be extended with Trelawny Eating. O.O Lol. Really the only new Order of the Phoenix i'll like is the extension in the forest scene, other than that I found all the other scenes useless, I wanted to see more of that other hour they supposedly filmed, but cut, but hey i guess they're saving it for the Ultimate Edition. Lol.

Gosh, still nothing, but I saw "On The Run" again

Order of the Phoenix was extended the first time it aired on ABC Family in March. It has all the deleted scenes (or deleted clips as I like to call them in OOTP since they are so short) are there except for the Trelawny scenes.

harry5678
July 11th, 2010, 2:03 am
Order of the Phoenix was extended the first time it aired on ABC Family in March. It has all the deleted scenes (or deleted clips as I like to call them in OOTP since they are so short) are there except for the Trelawny scenes.

Seriously? Gosh, I am behind! I missed the first airing of the Goblet of Fire extended edition (during the Gof actual premiere on ABC Family it was just the normal edition) and I also missed the Ootp Edition?! Good grief. LolI need to pay more attention to the ABC Family news posts apparently.

And yeah i'm starting to lose faith in the new footage tonight, but we do have over half of goblet of fire, left, and remember we didn't get "Forest Run" until the end of chamber of secrets, so there's still hope.

ArryGrotter
July 11th, 2010, 2:40 am
As the weekend is four days long this time, and compared to other days when its been 3, I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't anything new today... :shrug:

I thought I'd look at previous sneak peeks to see how many there were:

OotP (Decemeber 06):
The Story - 1 min
Harry - 30 sec
Hermione - 30 sec
Ron - 30 sec
The Order of the Phoenix - 30 sec
Dumbledore's Army - 30 sec
Professor Umbridge - 30 sec
Bellatrix Lestrange - 30 sec
Luna Lovegood - 30 sec
A New Director - 30 sec
Wands - 30 sec
The Kiss - 30 sec
Sirius Black - 30 sec
Total: 7 min

HBP (December 08):
The Story - 1 min
Love is in the Air - 1 min
Meet Professor Slughorn - 1 min
The Story of Tom Riddle - 1 min
Comedy - 1 min
Total: 5 mins

HBP (July 09):
Harry Potter - 1 min
Ron - 1 min
Hermione - 1 min
Draco - 1 min 30 sec
Lavender Brown - 1 min
Quidditch - 30 sec
Total: 6 mins

DH (July 10):
The Story - 2 min
On the Run - 1 min
Forest Run - 1 min
.....
Total (so far): 4 min

So yeah, that proved nothing :lol: We could have between 1 and 3 more minutes coming our way...

AccioHP
July 11th, 2010, 2:55 am
How much left in GiF?

9th_Wonder
July 11th, 2010, 3:27 am
How much left in GiF?
Harry and Cedric just grabbed the triwizard cup portkey before it went to commercial.

Thanks for posting that ArryGrotter. I doubt we'll get another new sneak peek this weekend. ABC Family will probably have another Harry Potter weekend with new sneak peeks right before the release of Part I.

AccioHP
July 11th, 2010, 3:48 am
Edit: on twitte magical menagerie said they played the fourth feature

harry5678
July 11th, 2010, 3:49 am
Edit: on twitte magical menagerie said they played the fourth feature

Well, this is the LAST commercial break, by my time, so this is it, if there IS a fourth feature, because i would've caught it if we had gotten another one already

EDIT: Wellthe last commercial break went by and I didn't see it...so I dont know what they're referring to

Pensieve_Seeker
July 11th, 2010, 3:57 am
Maybe the reason why they didn't show any previews tonight is because they know that more people are usually out on Saturday nights and they want to save the previews for the nights when more people will likely see them.

iamwood
July 11th, 2010, 3:58 am
That's too bad. Maybe that is all we are going to get.


I don't think so. If I were ABC Family, and four was my magic number, I wouldn't show ALL 4 sneak peeks before showing the feature presentation tomorrow, being OotP. :lol:

But that's just me :whistle:

decarus
July 11th, 2010, 4:09 am
I guess that is true. I hope you are right and we get at least one more. I hope it isn't just the trailer.

decarus
July 11th, 2010, 4:36 am
So maybe the dog scene.

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http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/locket%20effect%20camp/thestory14.png

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Happens right before the scene in the tall grass where they seem to argue a little bit and then Harry takes the locket.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/locket%20effect%20camp/Ron022.jpg
So maybe they do argue about food. I would assume why they are in this place with the dog is because they are looking for food. I guess we don't know that, but it seems likely.

meesha1971
July 11th, 2010, 4:46 am
Exactly, this creates suspense, but it isn't as though it reveals that she is a snake and Voldemort will arrive any minute. I think they should keep the sinister atmosphere from the book instead of making it seem like an emotional scene and then surprise the audience with a snake attack. Remember, there is no terror in the bang, only in the anticipation of it. ;)

I agree. It's not an emotional moment and that doesn't really fit. It's supposed to be a moment of suspense and tension. Hermione thought Bathilda might have the sword. Harry thought she might know something, but also felt that there was something off about the whole thing. You knew something was going to happen there. Seeing that bright, colorful room where everything looks new just does not feel right for that scene.

I haven't liked any of the footage from the Godric's Hollow sequence so far. No disguises for Harry and Hermione so they're going to appear reckless and foolish, the graveyard scene looks sinister instead of emotional with Bathilda hovering in the background - the way she's standing and staring at them makes me think of Night of the Living Dead, and the Nagini attack in a bright, colorful bedroom ...

That's probably going to be a good place to see if the kids need to use the bathroom.

Yeah, I would like to see the four of them dancing... it will be a nice contrast with the Yule Ball scene where we see Hermione having a lot of fun with Krum while Ron is angry and Harry just bored. It would show not only how much they have grown up but also that the relatrionships between them have been strenghtened

That would make for a nice contrast. Poor Ron and Harry really didn't enjoy the Yule Ball all that much - and I'd say it's probably not the best memory for Hermione since she fought with Ron. I would love to see all of them dancing and having a good time. However, I don't think its likely after reading that one set report from the filming of the wedding. According to that report, Hermione will be dancing with Krum instead of Ron. I have no idea why. I'm hoping that's wrong or maybe Ron will cut in and that person just didn't see it. Just have to wait and see I guess.

All the films have told the story in a manner that is based around recollection.

SS- The night Harry became the boy who lived.

CS- The diary.

POA- Harry and Hermione retracing their steps.

GOF- The memories.

OOTP- Occlumency and when Voldemort invades Harry's mind.

HBP- The opening and memories.

It has been an important of the films and in a way how the books themselves worked.

That's true. Personally, I'm not a big fan of flashbacks because they can be confusing if they're not done well. But I think they've done fairly well with these types of flashbacks in the HP films. I liked the effect they used in COS when DiaryRiddle was telling Harry that Ginny opened the chamber. The pensieve scenes have been done really well - I particularly liked how they did that in HBP with the washed out feel to the coloring because it made it feel more like you were looking at a past event. I also liked how they used Harry's visions to tie the series together in OOTP with bits from the previous films being cut into what he was seeing.

I think Harry's visions give them a good way to do some flashbacks - similar to how they did it in OOTP. It's interesting how they did that because it was a bit like Harry's thoughts and memories were getting mixed up in what he was seeing about Voldemort. I think that emphasized the connection between them - and finding out why that connection exists in DH would emphasize that further I think. Could be useful for those times that Harry intentionally tries to see what Voldemort is up to. I think they should stick with the same style they used in HBP for the Pensieve scenes. I think the effect they used in COS to show Ginny opening the chamber would work for things like Harry talking about how he took Draco's wand away from him - not a complete rehash of the scene, but just one shot of the moment he took the wands away from him.

In regards to Harry taking Draco's wand - I really hope they keep that like it was in the book. I think Jo made a good point when she talked about that scene in the book. It is ironic that the defining moment in a series about a boy wizard was not a magical duel, but rather a physical fight with Harry and Draco grappling over those wands and Harry grabbing them.

Please no.

Hermione's depression can not be compared to Bella's. Bella is a two dimensional character that for some reason can not live without Edward (*puke*). Hermione on the other hand is strong and continues with Harry finding the Horcruxes even though she is still hurting inside about Ron. Yes, she does occasionally cry, but she does have the decency to not sit on the same chair and wear the same clothes for five months :rotfl:

'Ear! 'Ear!

You give Bella more credit than I do though - she's more one-dimensional, IMO. But I agree. No sparklies for HP!

What if like Harry says,

"I disarmed Draco Malfoy" [Quick flash of a Slow Motion shot of JUST Harry disarming Draco] [Cut back to Harry] "and I took this wand from him, So I am the Master of the Elder wand"

I tihnk if they did it like that it wouldn't be nearly as bad as people are making it out to be, and I dont even get what is so bad about flashbacks anyway, but okay.

I think that could work pretty well.

It is so strange. It is one of those things. Either people hate OotP with a passion or they really like it. It is like there is no in between. It is so strange.

It is sort of the same with with PoA. Either people hate it or love it.

I hope we get something new tonight.

Well, I do hate POA - there really are no words strong enough to describe how much I hate POA. But I'm in between for OOTP. I like the film, but it does have problems. I don't mind that they cut things for that - OOTP was the one book in the series where quite a bit of it could be removed without being detrimental to the story. They didn't do a good job with Kreacher - Jo told them Kreacher would be significant, but all they did was let Harry see him grumbling. They didn't include the things that actually were significant about him. I was disappointed with the kids being confronted by the Death Eaters at the Ministry - they should have done more fighting instead of just showing them running all over the place and Ginny knocking all the shelves over. And I was really disappointed that they cut the part in the fight where Hermione got levitated, Ron stunned the Death Eater doing it, and then caught her. There was a nice Harry/Ginny moment that got cut as well. But I did like the film overall.

"@hmrpotter @StarOnGRA OOPS! I was saving that tweet for when they did it, Must have accidentally pushed Post XD"

Yeah, false alarm :lol:

Bummer. I thought there would be at least one new sneak peak today.

So maybe the dog scene.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/locket%20effect%20camp/thestory12.png

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/locket%20effect%20camp/thestory14.png

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/locket%20effect%20camp/thestory13.png
Happens right before the scene in the tall grass where they seem to argue a little bit and then Harry takes the locket.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/locket%20effect%20camp/Ron022.jpg
So maybe they do argue about food. I would assume why they are in this place with the dog is because they are looking for food. I guess we don't know that, but it seems likely.

In the book - right after they apparated away from the Ministry and Ron was splinched - Harry tried to get food on his own and failed because he ran into dementors and couldn't produce his patronus. Ron criticized Harry at first because he knew Harry could produce a brilliant patronus, but then they figured out that it was the locket that prevented him from being able to do it. From there, they managed to get some eggs from a farm and Harry noted that set the tone of things - when they could get food, things were okay and, when they could not get food, everyone was more irritable.

It looks like they're giving us a more extended scene with them trying to get food at a farm and encountering a guard dog. It does look like that dog is running into a barn of some kind. You can see bits of hay on the floor and walls.

decarus
July 11th, 2010, 5:04 am
Also while Hermione seems to be conscious when they escape Malfoy Manor she is having trouble standing. I think that looks great. More disturbing if she is conscious and trying to get away. I know we haven't seen much, but i have liked what i've seen.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/malfoy%20manor/thestory18.png

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/malfoy%20manor/thestory19.png

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It looks like they're giving us a more extended scene with them trying to get food at a farm and encountering a guard dog. It does look like that dog is running into a barn of some kind. You can see bits of hay on the floor and walls.

I like that they seem to be showing some of their hardships. I think it works.

PS. For some reason i think that might be their stunt doubles at Malfoy Manor not that that is important.

meesha1971
July 11th, 2010, 5:33 am
Also while Hermione seems to be conscious when they escape Malfoy Manor she is having trouble standing. I think that looks great. More disturbing if she is conscious and trying to get away. I know we haven't seen much, but i have liked what i've seen.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/malfoy%20manor/thestory18.png

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/malfoy%20manor/thestory19.png

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http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/malfoy%20manor/thestory21.png

Yeah - I'm not getting the PinkPowerGranger to the Rescue! vibe from this shot. I like that Hermione appears to be weakened with Ron catching her and supporting her. It seems like they're going to be showing Ron's good moments this time around. I think it's about time they did.

I like that they seem to be showing some of their hardships. I think it works.

I agree. I don't recall if we discussed the possibility before, but I think that is a good way to make the camping more interesting. They are going to have to venture out for food and they are searching for Horcruxes so it won't be the three of them sitting in the tent talking about stuff all the time. Those things were in the book, but it was mostly Harry thinking about them rather than seeing them do it. I like the possibility that the film will show them doing these things.

I was wondering why they were walking a lot in the trailer, but I guess that works visually - it gives them the opportunity to do those wide, sweeping shots of the scenery. It does make some sense when you think about it. They can't walk everywhere, but they'll have to walk sometimes. I think it will probably be that they apparate to a location and then start walking to find a good place to set up camp.

decarus
July 11th, 2010, 5:39 am
I was wondering why they were walking a lot in the trailer, but I guess that works visually - it gives them the opportunity to do those wide, sweeping shots of the scenery. It does make some sense when you think about it. They can't walk everywhere, but they'll have to walk sometimes. I think it will probably be that they apparate to a location and then start walking to find a good place to set up camp.

That is true. I think it is a little strange that they seem to be walking all the time also. They would also have to walk into town to look for food or walk if they are near any muggles. I wonder if they are going to still be disapparating as much like in the books. If not though Ron would have been able to find them quicker after he leaves.

I am not sure if Ron goes to shell cottage after he leaves because he seems to be wearing the same clothes. I am not sure about that, but it looks like he is. If they don't disapparate after Ron leaves then he could find them by just going back to where they last were.

I am over thinking this. I just think it is odd that they seem to be walking a lot.

meesha1971
July 11th, 2010, 5:53 am
That is true. I think it is a little strange that they seem to be walking all the time also. They would also have to walk into town to look for food or walk if they are near any muggles. I wonder if they are going to still be disapparating as much like in the books. If not though Ron would have been able to find them quicker after he leaves.

I am not sure if Ron goes to shell cottage after he leaves because he seems to be wearing the same clothes. I am not sure about that, but it looks like he is. If they don't disapparate after Ron leaves then he could find them by just going back to where they last were.

I am over thinking this. I just think it is odd that they seem to be walking a lot.

It does seem that way in a 2 minute trailer. But I'm thinking it probably won't feel that way in a 2 hour and 20 minute film. We've seen something like three shots of them walking - with gorgeous scenery in those as well. I love that shot of them walking over the mountainous area - it's so remote and beautiful. I think they will be apparating when they change locations and then walking within the location - if that makes any sense. Pack everything up, apparate to a new location - start walking to find a good spot to set up camp. If they need to forage for food or there in an area they plan to search, they would be walking to do those things as well. I think the apparating will be limited to them moving from camp site to camp site and they'll probably walk everywhere else.

decarus
July 11th, 2010, 5:56 am
You are probably right. I agree that those shots of the scenery have been amazing. It is just a little odd. I guess there have been only three shots of them walking and we can assume that at least one is from that dog scene where they were looking for food.

katana
July 11th, 2010, 7:40 am
Aww, no new clip tonight? Bummer.

Jonny7003
July 11th, 2010, 8:50 am
Oclumencia are reporting that new high-res pictures and other promotional material will make it's way online along with more news on Deathly Hallows Part I, later this month. At least that's what it says when I translate it.

http://www.oclumencia.com.br/2010/07/em-breve-fotos-de-reliquias-da-morte-serao-divulgadas/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Oclumencia+%28Oclum%C3%AAncia +|+Not%C3%ADcias%2C+fotos%2C+f%C3%B3rum+e+entreten imento.%29&utm_content=Twitter

So what do we expect ? They say we'll definately have some new pics but what else? Clips perhaps ?

me_potter_fan
July 11th, 2010, 8:53 am
Oclumencia are reporting that new high-res pictures and other promotional material will make it's way online along with more news on Deathly Hallows Part I at the end of July. At least that's what it says when I translate it.

http://www.oclumencia.com.br/2010/07/em-breve-fotos-de-reliquias-da-morte-serao-divulgadas/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Oclumencia+%28Oclum%C3%AAncia +|+Not%C3%ADcias%2C+fotos%2C+f%C3%B3rum+e+entreten imento.%29&utm_content=Twitter (http://www.oclumencia.com.br/2010/07/em-breve-fotos-de-reliquias-da-morte-serao-divulgadas/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Oclumencia+%28Oclum%C3%AAncia +%7C+Not%C3%ADcias%2C+fotos%2C+f%C3%B3rum+e+entret enimento.%29&utm_content=Twitter)

So what do we expect ? They say we'll definately have some new pics but what else? Clips perhaps ?

Cool cant wait! I dont expect clips, maybe just screenshots and maybe a new poster.

Jonny7003
July 11th, 2010, 9:01 am
Oclumencia say that it'll be for Part I only, so that's good :) When can we expect clips to become available online ?

ArryGrotter
July 11th, 2010, 9:06 am
As they don't seem to have any source, I don't know whether I believe it :shrug:

weasley9
July 11th, 2010, 9:12 am
When Occlmencia knew about the poster and trailer before everyone else, did they provide a source? I don't remember. However, I think it's entirely plausible they got an email from WB...

lcbaseball22
July 11th, 2010, 9:56 am
Oclumencia are reporting that new high-res pictures and other promotional material will make it's way online along with more news on Deathly Hallows Part I, later this month. At least that's what it says when I translate it.

http://www.oclumencia.com.br/2010/07/em-breve-fotos-de-reliquias-da-morte-serao-divulgadas/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Oclumencia+%28Oclum%C3%AAncia +|+Not%C3%ADcias%2C+fotos%2C+f%C3%B3rum+e+entreten imento.%29&utm_content=Twitter

So what do we expect ? They say we'll definately have some new pics but what else? Clips perhaps ?

Hmm, how much later in the month? Maybe there will be a new trailer with Inception after all... *fingers crossed*

silver ink pot
July 11th, 2010, 10:04 am
WB leaks stuff to Occlumencia every time, so I think this is real.

I'm betting on some promotional pics of the actors this time. :clap:

*hopes for an Alan Rickman*

MoodysMagicEye
July 11th, 2010, 11:33 am
So maybe the dog scene.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/locket%20effect%20camp/thestory12.png

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/locket%20effect%20camp/thestory14.png

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/locket%20effect%20camp/thestory13.png
Happens right before the scene in the tall grass where they seem to argue a little bit and then Harry takes the locket.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/locket%20effect%20camp/Ron022.jpg
So maybe they do argue about food. I would assume why they are in this place with the dog is because they are looking for food. I guess we don't know that, but it seems likely.


In the book - right after they apparated away from the Ministry and Ron was splinched - Harry tried to get food on his own and failed because he ran into dementors and couldn't produce his patronus. Ron criticized Harry at first because he knew Harry could produce a brilliant patronus, but then they figured out that it was the locket that prevented him from being able to do it. From there, they managed to get some eggs from a farm and Harry noted that set the tone of things - when they could get food, things were okay and, when they could not get food, everyone was more irritable.

It looks like they're giving us a more extended scene with them trying to get food at a farm and encountering a guard dog. It does look like that dog is running into a barn of some kind. You can see bits of hay on the floor and walls.

I live on a farm, and this would be September / October time (actually the second photo tells me its May / June but I'll just ignore that :elaugh: ) would be a good time to go looking for food. I think decarus is right the two scenes are linked, but I think it happens the other way around, the field they are walking through is a field of wheat (which is the most common crop found in the fields of the UK) so it is likely that they are near to these buildings we see in the first photo, once they found what food they can they would then apparate away, especially if a dog is involved as they wouldn't want to draw attention to themselves.

BlackCatScott
July 11th, 2010, 12:28 pm
Are we expecting anything with OOTP today then as it's the last movie? I dont see why they would show all the sneak peaks within two days, because thats what everybodys watching for. Why didnt they just show one each day, instead of two sneak peeks the other day? Anyway, I really hope they show something today.

decarus
July 11th, 2010, 2:09 pm
I live on a farm, and this would be September / October time (actually the second photo tells me its May / June but I'll just ignore that :elaugh: ) would be a good time to go looking for food. I think decarus is right the two scenes are linked, but I think it happens the other way around, the field they are walking through is a field of wheat (which is the most common crop found in the fields of the UK) so it is likely that they are near to these buildings we see in the first photo, once they found what food they can they would then apparate away, especially if a dog is involved as they wouldn't want to draw attention to themselves.

That could be. Either way. I can't tell if Ron is wearing the locket still in the shot where he is leaning against the fence. They could argue about food first and then go look for it.

AccioHP
July 11th, 2010, 2:38 pm
Would love to see photos! I hope soon! :)

Does comic con allow cameras in? I was wondering if we could expect any video of the DH
Footage they show.

What time is OotP on today?

FilmGirl27
July 11th, 2010, 2:41 pm
Oclumencia are reporting that new high-res pictures and other promotional material will make it's way online along with more news on Deathly Hallows Part I, later this month. At least that's what it says when I translate it.

http://www.oclumencia.com.br/2010/07/em-breve-fotos-de-reliquias-da-morte-serao-divulgadas/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Oclumencia+%28Oclum%C3%AAncia +|+Not%C3%ADcias%2C+fotos%2C+f%C3%B3rum+e+entreten imento.%29&utm_content=Twitter

So what do we expect ? They say we'll definately have some new pics but what else? Clips perhaps ?

:yuhup: Yay! I believe Occumencia, they are usually right, so I'm excited. Though I'm forcing myself not to watch clips of full scenes, so hopefully it'll just be screenshots. :)

I'm disappointed there were no new ABC clips yesterday, hopefully there will be more today :)

Does comic con allow cameras in? I was wondering if we could expect any video of the DH
Footage they show.

I don't think they let camaras in, but I read on a comment on Mugglenet that Comic Con footage for New Moon was leaked once, so maybe the DH stuff will leak too. :)

SiriusBlack101
July 11th, 2010, 6:12 pm
Does comic con allow cameras in? I was wondering if we could expect any video of the DH
Footage they show.

G4TV is covering the event live, so I'm hopeful the DH panel will be shown on their broadcast.

Jack5555
July 11th, 2010, 6:15 pm
WB leaks stuff to Occlumencia every time, so I think this is real.

I'm betting on some promotional pics of the actors this time. :clap:

*hopes for an Alan Rickman*
We really need promos first of Bill Nighy, Domhnall Gleeson, Andy Linden, Ciarán Hinds, and Rhys Ifans first (Scrimgeour, Bill, Mundungus, Aberforth, and Xeno).

AccioHP
July 11th, 2010, 7:53 pm
What time is OotP on?

9th_Wonder
July 11th, 2010, 8:21 pm
What time is OotP on?

8:00 PM EST

Looking forward to the new DH pictures. A new poster as well wouldn't hurt :D. A new trailer with Inception would be awesome :tu: Part 1 only please.

AccioHP
July 11th, 2010, 8:57 pm
8:00 PM EST

Looking forward to the new DH pictures. A new poster as well wouldn't hurt :D. A new trailer with Inception would be awesome :tu: Part 1 only please.

Thanks! I hope there are more bts clips

lcbaseball22
July 11th, 2010, 10:53 pm
Wow, so I just found this trailer re-edit that combines the incredible music from the Inception trailer with the DH imagery and it actually works amazingly well. It's just weird cause I've seen the Inception trailer so many times it feels out of place...but I'm sure that's just me :lol:

Check it out-

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MovieTheaterLad/news/?a=19832

or for the direct link- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuGa5iH375s&feature=player_embedded

Unfortunately you lose some of the dialogue like when Voldy is grabbing Harry's face (which IMO is the best part of the trailer) cause it doesn't fit...but other then that it's awesome, perhaps even better? :whistle:

If you're curious how I came across this I was trying to search google for perhaps mention of a DH trailer with Inception, I'm still hoping...

lcbaseball22
July 11th, 2010, 11:43 pm
Stay On Topic Please

It is on topic newbie... :rolleyes:

It's simply an awesome variation of the DH trailer I felt should share :p Anyways, do we expect anything else today then or do you think it'll be tomorrow? And are you sure it's still going tomorrow MoD? Cause they advertise it as a "4 day weekend" and it started Thursday night...

nicholasmanning
July 11th, 2010, 11:48 pm
anyways moving on Does anyone else think that we may have gotten all the footage that were going to get from the AbC Family Weekend?

HPFanNewbie
July 11th, 2010, 11:50 pm
Thank you for posting the trailer links, that was a well done edit IMO. I like seeing the trailer with a different twist, that music fit the DH trailer well I thought.

BlackCatScott
July 11th, 2010, 11:52 pm
Wow, so I just found this trailer re-edit that combines the incredible music from the Inception trailer with the DH imagery and it actually works amazingly well. It's just weird cause I've seen the Inception trailer so many times it feels out of place...but I'm sure that's just me :lol:

Check it out-

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MovieTheaterLad/news/?a=19832

or for the direct link- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuGa5iH375s&feature=player_embedded

Unfortunately you lose some of the dialogue like when Voldy is grabbing Harry's face (which IMO is the best part of the trailer) cause it doesn't fit...but other then that it's awesome, perhaps even better? :whistle:

If you're curious how I came across this I was trying to search google for perhaps mention of a DH trailer with Inception, I'm still hoping...

I like that version of the trailer. It's not better than the real HP trailer, but it was well put together.

lcbaseball22
July 11th, 2010, 11:53 pm
Thank you for posting the trailer links, that was a well done edit IMO. I like seeing the trailer with a different twist, that music fit the DH trailer well I thought.

You're welcome. Glad at least one other person thought so :)

I like that version of the trailer. It's not better than the real HP trailer, but it was well put together.

Yeah, the only thing that diminishes it a bit I'd say is the lack of dialogue...specifically the exchange while Voldemort is grapsing Harry.

anyways moving on Does anyone else think that we may have gotten all the footage that were going to get from the AbC Family Weekend?

I should think there will be at least one more based on how many they've done in the past. However, those were mostly short 30 second commercials...the DH ones have been longer, running between a minute to 2 minutes. It wouldn't make sense to not show at least one during OotP if this is it's ABC network debut. BTW, do we know if OotP is being shown extended?

jallen
July 11th, 2010, 11:56 pm
Wow, so I just found this trailer re-edit that combines the incredible music from the Inception trailer with the DH imagery and it actually works amazingly well. It's just weird cause I've seen the Inception trailer so many times it feels out of place...but I'm sure that's just me :lol:

Check it out-

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MovieTheaterLad/news/?a=19832

or for the direct link- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuGa5iH375s&feature=player_embedded

Unfortunately you lose some of the dialogue like when Voldy is grabbing Harry's face (which IMO is the best part of the trailer) cause it doesn't fit...but other then that it's awesome, perhaps even better? :whistle:

If you're curious how I came across this I was trying to search google for perhaps mention of a DH trailer with Inception, I'm still hoping...

That's really good! There were some obvious edits, but it fit really well with the trailer. I still think the original music is more Harry Potter-ish, but I really did like that music.

lcbaseball22
July 12th, 2010, 12:04 am
That's really good! There were some obvious edits, but it fit really well with the trailer. I still think the original music is more Harry Potter-ish, but I really did like that music.

Haha, yeah it doesn't really sound like anything we've heard in Potter but the editing fit the music amazing well. I know some people aren't a fan of the music in the actual trailer either. I personally love it but unfortunately neither piece will be in either movie...they were both trailer exclusive for Inception and Deathly Hallows, respectively. To be honest I'd rather have a trailer with lame music accompaniment then to hear something fantastic but realize that's the only time I'll hear it. I really wish the composer for the movie worked on the trailers too...

:sigh:

Anyways, how many hours until OotP starts? I'm on the west coast so I don't think it'll come on here until later. You guys seem to already know whether there was any sneak peeks shown during the presentation way before I see it :lol: Not like the MTV thing which was live...

jallen
July 12th, 2010, 12:08 am
Haha, yeah it doesn't really sound like anything we've heard in Potter but the editing fit the music amazing well. I know some people aren't a fan of the music in the actual trailer either. I personally love it but unfortunately neither piece will be in either movie...they were both trailer exclusive for Inception and Deathly Hallows, respectively. To be honest I'd rather have a trailer with lame music accompaniment then to hear something fantastic but realize that's the only time I'll hear it. I really wish the composer for the movie worked on the trailers too...

I know; I remember being really dissapointed with HBP's score, partly due to the fact that it didn't have some of the amazing music from the trailer in it.

lcbaseball22
July 12th, 2010, 12:15 am
how long will Deathly Hallows be? Will it be Shorter than Half Blood Prince?

Heyman said they'll be at least 2 hours long and I trust Heyman so...

Q: So these films will be the same length as the ones that came before? We won’t see two films that clock in under two hours?

A: No. The idea is to get everything people want in there. I’m sure there’ll be parts that don’t make it, which we won’t know until the script is written. But that is the idea.

Q: Did you get as far as trying to put a script together that would get everything in to one film, or did it become obvious in discussions that it would work?

A: No, it all came down to discussions. We just thought how are we going to approach this? Is this going to be a four and a half hour film? That’s probably what it would have been. Would our audience really embrace that? In some way, I think they might. But I think the younger ones would have drifted. There’s always been difficulty making sure that the ones that are two hours, two and a half hours long – making sure that those are the right length. I think by having two films that are two and a half hours – although we’re not sure of the length – then it will be a richer experience. One of the challenges that faces us, which we’ve been discussing, is how to give each film its own identity. We want them to feel like one film, but they’ve got to be self-contained too. We feel now that we’ve got a really good angle on that. But we haven’t got a script yet on either part, so I don’t want to say too much


source- http://www.empireonline.com/news/story.asp?NID=22200


Personally I'm expecting about 4.5 hrs total (2 hrs 15 min per part) That's what our outline came out to and I feel it's fairly accurate :)

However, I could see something like Part 1 being 2 hours and Part 2 being two and a half...or vice versa :hmm:

MasterOfDeath
July 12th, 2010, 12:33 am
My cable viewing guide says that OOTP will air tomorrow as well so it's more like a 5 day HP weekend. :lol: And yes, OOTP has been in its extended form since it's debut on ABC Family in March.

decarus
July 12th, 2010, 12:39 am
However, I could see something like Part 1 being 2 hours and Part 2 being two and a half...or vice versa :hmm:

It depends on the split. I think that if Part 1 splits ends after Dobby's death and Voldemort getting the wand then i think it is the one that might go on the long side. That just seems like a lot especially with the known added scenes.

lcbaseball22
July 12th, 2010, 12:42 am
It depends on the split. I think that if Part 1 splits ends after Dobby's death and Voldemort getting the wand then i think it is the one that might go on the long side. That just seems like a lot especially with the known added scenes.

Yeah, that's along the lines I was thinking. I could actually see Part 1 being longer even though it might seem counter-intuitive. Part 1 has a lot of exposition and set-up that needs to be taken care of...and then Part 2 is gonna be a more or less full throttle action film (with a few "quiet" moments) and I believe 2 hours would be more then enough. But if the split occurs before Malfoy Manor obviously it'll be different.

Bella_Crucio_U
July 12th, 2010, 12:49 am
Yeah I'm thinking Part 1 will be longer. I'm also thinking that the split will be after Dobby dies. We heard from Yates (I think) that the battle will be a good half hour long. It's hard to say, though because both part of the book have so much stuff.

decarus
July 12th, 2010, 1:30 am
Yeah, that's along the lines I was thinking. I could actually see Part 1 being longer even though it might seem counter-intuitive. Part 1 has a lot of exposition and set-up that needs to be taken care of...and then Part 2 is gonna be a more or less full throttle action film (with a few "quiet" moments) and I believe 2 hours would be more then enough. But if the split occurs before Malfoy Manor obviously it'll be different.

Well an i am still hoping that Part 1 will split before Malfoy Manor. I do think that the last interview where he said a more complete ending suggest after, but it is still not entirely clear.

I hope we get something new tonight also. I think if that is all they were going to show us they should have spread them out a little bit more. Though i guess maybe they want to show them multiple times so that might be it.

AccioHP
July 12th, 2010, 1:31 am
I think we should at least get one preview tn. Well, that's what I'm hoping for

They just played "The Story"

Lauzzy
July 12th, 2010, 1:42 am
The previews were immense! loved the story one, even though i already know the story... haha but there was loads of new footage, and most importantly to me, malfoy manor footage!

BlackCatScott
July 12th, 2010, 1:47 am
The previews were immense! loved the story one, even though i already know the story... haha but there was loads of new footage, and most importantly to me, malfoy manor footage!

Yeah but we want new previews, I still have hope. :relax:

ally_xx
July 12th, 2010, 2:04 am
So I haven't been on in a few days; do we know what the scene is all about where Harry is tied up and Voldemort is holding his face?

I'm really confused by it :hmm:

Lauzzy
July 12th, 2010, 2:04 am
Yeah but we want new previews, I still have hope. :relax:

totally agree, i hope there's a lot of ron and hermione in them too :)

decarus
July 12th, 2010, 2:16 am
So I haven't been on in a few days; do we know what the scene is all about where Harry is tied up and Voldemort is holding his face?

We don't really know anymore about it. It is most likely after Harry's 'death' and before the final duel.

I think the reason he is tied up probably has something to do with when they bring his body up to the castle. It looks like the shot is in the castle at Hogwarts. He is wearing the clothes from the battle scenes.

PS. So nothing new? Are we going to get anything tonight?

9th_Wonder
July 12th, 2010, 3:59 am
Three is better than nothing. The movie is still five months away. Back to the waiting game. According to Oclumencia we'll be getting new images later this month so that's something to look forward to. And there's also the chance of a new trailer with Inception.

jallen
July 12th, 2010, 4:00 am
Hmm, so much for "aggressive" marketing :shrug:

I'm not so sure WB is considering these "ads" - for the most part, only hardcore fans will look for them, and only people who like Harry Potter and will probably see the movie anyways will actually watch them. It's pointless advertising to people who will already buy the tickets; they're trying to reach out to *everyone*.

ally_xx
July 12th, 2010, 4:21 am
We don't really know anymore about it. It is most likely after Harry's 'death' and before the final duel.

I think the reason he is tied up probably has something to do with when they bring his body up to the castle. It looks like the shot is in the castle at Hogwarts. He is wearing the clothes from the battle scenes.

PS. So nothing new? Are we going to get anything tonight?

Ah ok, fair enough!

boushh
July 12th, 2010, 4:24 am
I was hoping for one new one for each movie, even if they were short like the second and third previews. Oh well. Maybe the next one they do will have more.

Nightmayre
July 12th, 2010, 4:44 am
I think they should totally change the epilogue. With the right people married to each other this time. :D

snugglepot
July 12th, 2010, 4:50 am
[staff edit]

Now back on topic;
Do you think they will show any shots from the Epilogue in one of the Trailers?
I doubt it, but they have shown the final one-on-one battle between Harry and Voldemort and I didn't think they'd show that.

lightreading
July 12th, 2010, 4:51 am
JKR decided who married who. She's the author, and she owns the story. Harry is married to Ginny. Ron is married to Hermione. That is how it's supposed to be, regardless of what you ship.

Alastor
July 12th, 2010, 5:25 am
I've deleted some chit chat.

Can we move back to discussing the movie now, please?

nicholasmanning
July 12th, 2010, 5:33 am
ok so will we ever get a trailer for part 1 and part 1 only?

heathurrr
July 12th, 2010, 5:34 am
I hope so. I wouldnt get my hopes up too much but we still have 5 months until the movie comes out.

nicholasmanning
July 12th, 2010, 5:38 am
we,ve seen so much of part 2 and not enough of part 1 i hope we get a part 1 trailer would love to see 7 potters and the wedding attack in the next trailer if we get one

decarus
July 12th, 2010, 5:51 am
So do you guys think these shots of the trio inside somewhere coming down the stairs could be in the hogs head? They are wearing their battle clothes and it is inside. There is like a plate on the wall in a shelf. I think it would be before the forest again scene. What do you guys think?

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/hogsmeade%20winter/thestory9.png

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/hogsmeade%20winter/thestory10.png

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/hogsmeade%20winter/thestory6.png

katana
July 12th, 2010, 6:02 am
I think you could be right decarus. Dan's clothes don't look worn out or dirty like in the battle shots, so it's got to be before the battle. I can't think of any other place it could be.

decarus
July 12th, 2010, 6:22 am
That is the only thing i could think of. I agree they seem to still be clean at this point so i would think before the forest again scene because Harry looks pretty bad by then.

It is the plate that made me think it might be the Hogshead.

So what do you think about these shots of Harry somewhere? He is wearing his dark coat so it is either at Godric's hollow, the Lovegood's, or malfoy manor.

The camera sort of jabbed down at him and he moves out of the way which made me think the snake so Godric's Hollow. I don't know though it could be Malfoy Manor.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/house%20godrics%20hollow/ontheroad4.png

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/house%20godrics%20hollow/ontheroad5.png

Bella_Crucio_U
July 12th, 2010, 6:38 am
Hmm...I'm thinking Malfoy Manor. Something about the background of the pictures just makes me think it's Malfoy Manor. It's hard to tell, though.

meesha1971
July 12th, 2010, 6:41 am
So do you guys think these shots of the trio inside somewhere coming down the stairs could be in the hogs head? They are wearing their battle clothes and it is inside. There is like a plate on the wall in a shelf. I think it would be before the forest again scene. What do you guys think?

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/hogsmeade%20winter/thestory9.png

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/hogsmeade%20winter/thestory10.png

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/hogsmeade%20winter/thestory6.png

That's what I was thinking. I haven't had a chance to go back and look at the OOTP screencaps, but for some reason, that makes me think of the scene at the Hogs Head in OOTP. I think that's probably just after Aberforth rescues them in Hogsmeade.

I think those shots of the trio coming up to a barred gate are probably from that sequence as well. I'm thinking that will probably be the trio apparate to the edge of Hogsmeade with the alarm going off as they walk into the village, Death Eaters and/or dementors are searching for them, they run down an alley and find the way out blocked by a barred gate, Harry uses his patronus to drive the dementors away, and Aberforth shows up to rescue them.

They might cut the alarm - though I think that it would make more sense to keep it as a means of Aberforth realizing they are there. They could also cut the patronus - but I hope they don't because Aberforth yelling at the Death Eater about it being a goat was hilarious. :lol:

That is the only thing i could think of. I agree they seem to still be clean at this point so i would think before the forest again scene because Harry looks pretty bad by then.

It is the plate that made me think it might be the Hogshead.

So what do you think about these shots of Harry somewhere? He is wearing his dark coat so it is either at Godric's hollow, the Lovegood's, or malfoy manor.

The camera sort of jabbed down at him and he moves out of the way which made me think the snake so Godric's Hollow. I don't know though it could be Malfoy Manor.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/house%20godrics%20hollow/ontheroad4.png

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/house%20godrics%20hollow/ontheroad5.png

That one is tricky. Could you post the pics of the interior of Lovegood's home and that shot of Malfoy Manor for comparison?

9th_Wonder
July 12th, 2010, 6:46 am
It's not Malfoy Manor because Harry is wearing different clothes during Dobby's burial. We know they bury Dobby right after they arrive at Shell Cottage.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/dobbys%20bruial/body1.jpg


EDIT:

Actually wait, Harry is wearing the same brown coat when they first arrive at Shell Cottage. So yes, it might be Malfoy Manor.
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8408/thestory1x.png

But it doesn't look like he's wearing the blue shirt underneath the brown coat in the screencap decarus posted.

katana
July 12th, 2010, 6:51 am
That is the only thing i could think of. I agree they seem to still be clean at this point so i would think before the forest again scene because Harry looks pretty bad by then.

It is the plate that made me think it might be the Hogshead.

So what do you think about these shots of Harry somewhere? He is wearing his dark coat so it is either at Godric's hollow, the Lovegood's, or malfoy manor.

The camera sort of jabbed down at him and he moves out of the way which made me think the snake so Godric's Hollow. I don't know though it could be Malfoy Manor.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/house%20godrics%20hollow/ontheroad4.png

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/house%20godrics%20hollow/ontheroad5.png
My first thought was maybe Godrics Hollow...maybe in Bathilda's house. The shirt underneath the black coat is darker, so it's not the blue button up he's wearing during the chase or when he buries Dobby. I think it's sometime during Godric's Hollow. The coat/shirt look the same as in the shots of when Harry and Hermione are standing in the graveyard there.

Apheka
July 12th, 2010, 6:52 am
Would that scene be as they enter Grimmauld Place?

I've been a fan of splitting the film after Dobby's death and after watching the trailer so many times, I think that ending with Voldemort standing on Dumbledore's grave with the wand would be great. It would have to be after Harry's decision about Horcruxes or Hallows but it would make a fantastic shot to film the credits over.

decarus
July 12th, 2010, 6:58 am
That one is tricky. Could you post the pics of the interior of Lovegood's home and that shot of Malfoy Manor for comparison?

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/lovegoods/xenophiliuslovegood001-1.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/malfoy%20manor/MM1.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/malfoy%20manor/Image75.jpg

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/house%20godrics%20hollow/ofteaser2.png

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/house%20godrics%20hollow/calendarcut2.png

PS.
But it doesn't look like he's wearing the blue shirt underneath the brown coat in the screencap decarus posted.

It is sort of hard to tell what his shirt looks like because of the bad quality of the photo. Here is a shot of them at the graveyard.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/graveyard/dhteaser_sadharry.jpg

katana
July 12th, 2010, 7:06 am
Hmm.....after looking at the picture of Xeno's house....maybe the shot of Harry is in Luna's room, when they figure out she's not there? But that's before the Snatcher scene....and harry has on a light blue shirt during that.

Hmm....I'm still gonna say some point during Godrics Hollow, but also now think it could be Xeno's house. I don't think it's Malfoy Manor.

9th_Wonder
July 12th, 2010, 7:11 am
It looks like it may be during Godric's Hallow since the clothes he's wearing in that shot looks very similar to what he's wearing in the graveyard. He may be inside Bathilda's House.

weasley9
July 12th, 2010, 7:30 am
It looks a bit too un-formal for Malfoy Manor, you know what I mean? Though it might be the cellar, I suppose. But it just looks a bit too bright.

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meesha1971
July 12th, 2010, 8:17 am
I'm still not sure. Doesn't look like the Lovegood house, but the lighting is very different.

Something I'm wondering about Godric's Hollow - weren't the houses they used for the exterior connected? Kind of like the houses used for Privet Dr.?

If so, that bright, shiny room might just be some poor neighbor's house and the hole in the wall caused by a spell or something as Harry fought with the snake.

KJRiddle
July 12th, 2010, 10:14 am
I'm 100% sure it's Gringotts, first because of Harry's clothes, and second because the walls look very cavern-ish and there's a vault door in the background.

jallen
July 12th, 2010, 12:21 pm
Sorry, but I wasn't on last night, so what scene is this we're discussing? Thanks :)

FutureAuthor13
July 12th, 2010, 12:50 pm
I'm 100% sure it's Gringotts, first because of Harry's clothes, and second because the walls look very cavern-ish and there's a vault door in the background.

Sorry, just to ask- there is a link to a Deathly Hallows screenplay in your signature. Is it official; are those the actual lines that will be spoken in the film? Just wondering. :)

decarus
July 12th, 2010, 1:02 pm
I'm 100% sure it's Gringotts, first because of Harry's clothes, and second because the walls look very cavern-ish and there's a vault door in the background.

I don't think it is Gringotts because this is what Harry is wearing during the gringotts scene. He is wearing a hoodie and not his black coat.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/gringotts%20heist/Image67.jpg

Something I'm wondering about Godric's Hollow - weren't the houses they used for the exterior connected? Kind of like the houses used for Privet Dr.?

If so, that bright, shiny room might just be some poor neighbor's house and the hole in the wall caused by a spell or something as Harry fought with the snake.

Well this is the house that they supposedly used as James and Lilly's house. The thing is no one was filming on location, so i am not sure if we can be certain what exactly that means. Maybe they used this house as an example and made a replica of some sort.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/godrics%20hollow/lavenham30abig.jpg

We know that they built houses very like this one that are behind them in the graveyard.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/godrics%20hollow/normal_movies_dh_set_pinewoodstudio.jpg

I am thinking that Harry is in Godric's hollow until we know more.

meesha1971
July 12th, 2010, 3:08 pm
I don't think it is Gringotts because this is what Harry is wearing during the gringotts scene. He is wearing a hoodie and not his black coat.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/gringotts%20heist/Image67.jpg



Well this is the house that they supposedly used as James and Lilly's house. The thing is no one was filming on location, so i am not sure if we can be certain what exactly that means. Maybe they used this house as an example and made a replica of some sort.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/godrics%20hollow/lavenham30abig.jpg

We know that they built houses very like this one that are behind them in the graveyard.

http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/godrics%20hollow/normal_movies_dh_set_pinewoodstudio.jpg

I am thinking that Harry is in Godric's hollow until we know more.

It could be. I was wondering because the room beyond that whole in the wall looked dim and dirty - more in line with what I would expect the Potters house to look like after the explosion and sitting empty for 16 years.

lightreading
July 12th, 2010, 3:51 pm
The Malfoy Manor looks STUNNING.

HPFanNewbie
July 12th, 2010, 4:50 pm
I am really feeling that picture of Harry was from a scene in Godric's Hollow after he follows "Bathilda" upstairs to her bedroom. You can see the thin coating of dust on the mirror by him and the darkness just gives me the feel of what I visualized at Bathilda's house when I read DH. I am starting to think that Harry and Nagini crash through a wall into that nursery when he is struggling to get away and that is why he is in such a bright cheery room that doesn't seem to fit with the book.

Fury
July 12th, 2010, 5:01 pm
I am looking at the All-Inclusive DH List (great list by the way), and one of the parts, it has Daniel talking the Harry/Ginny kiss.

It was kind of odd to do that with someone I've known since they were eight, but this time around much more relaxed, on Seven, we've done another kissing scene on Seven, totally fine with that now because I think it's because I know Bonnie slightly better now.

We know from all the footage we've got that Harry and Ginny kiss at Hogwarts. But do you think we'll get a birthday kiss? I don't know when Dan said that quote, but judging from that, I wonder if we'll only get one kiss?

LordThingy
July 12th, 2010, 5:40 pm
I am looking at the All-Inclusive DH List (great list by the way), and one of the parts, it has Daniel talking the Harry/Ginny kiss.



We know from all the footage we've got that Harry and Ginny kiss at Hogwarts. But do you think we'll get a birthday kiss? I don't know when Dan said that quote, but judging from that, I wonder if we'll only get one kiss?

i think we will, because they didn't decide to break up at the end of HBP, so i think they'll have their emotional kiss and Harry will tell Ginny that they need to end it while he searches for horcruxes.

Fury
July 12th, 2010, 5:47 pm
i think we will, because they didn't decide to break up at the end of HBP, so i think they'll have their emotional kiss and Harry will tell Ginny that they need to end it while he searches for horcruxes.

Oooh, I had never thought about that before. That would be a great place for Harry and Ginny to have that discussion.

HermioneG05
July 12th, 2010, 5:54 pm
Sorry this has probably been said but did we only see three sneak peeks in the entire weekend on ABC Family?

Fury
July 12th, 2010, 5:57 pm
Sorry this has probably been said but did we only see three sneak peeks in the entire weekend on ABC Family?

Yes, they showed all three by Friday, and they were just repeats on the weekend. "The Story" was repeated so much! :grumble:

AccioHP
July 12th, 2010, 6:22 pm
So OotP is airing again today? It would be great if a preview was with it but I highly doubt it :/

FilmGirl27
July 12th, 2010, 7:03 pm
Aww, still no new ABC clip. :no: I hope they aren't done. Maybe they'll have another HP weekend and continue with 3 more clips and so on? :shrug:

i think we will, because they didn't decide to break up at the end of HBP, so i think they'll have their emotional kiss and Harry will tell Ginny that they need to end it while he searches for horcruxes.

:agree: I really hope they do that.

Sacred_Memories
July 12th, 2010, 7:06 pm
One of my most anticipated scenes in DH1 is when Harry and Hermione go to the graveyard. It is an incredible moment...however, there are two things worrying me.

1.) The cinematography in the first sneak peek back in December was much better than the slightly extended MTV trailer we got a week ago (the blue hue was drained). I wonder what will happen.

2.) Bathilda in the background. I'm so nervous that they will show her in the graveyard BEFORE Harry/Hermione have their moment. I have no problem if it's after Hermione hugs Harry...but for the audience to see her as Harry/Hermione are having their moment will drain away so much emotion. Do you think she will be shown?

decarus
July 12th, 2010, 7:24 pm
I am looking at the All-Inclusive DH List (great list by the way), and one of the parts, it has Daniel talking the Harry/Ginny kiss.

We know from all the footage we've got that Harry and Ginny kiss at Hogwarts. But do you think we'll get a birthday kiss? I don't know when Dan said that quote, but judging from that, I wonder if we'll only get one kiss?

Thanks very much. About the kiss i am not really sure if there will be more then one kiss. I think there is a rumor that the kiss at Hogwarts might have been added in later. It is possible that the kiss that Harry is talking about here is the kiss at the burrow. I could really see them going either way. They could want to hold the Harry/Ginny kiss until the end or they could decide to have this farewell scene at the burrow. I don't think we know enough. I do think it seems like Daniel is just talking about one kiss in the quote.

2.) Bathilda in the background. I'm so nervous that they will show her in the graveyard BEFORE Harry/Hermione have their moment. I have no problem if it's after Hermione hugs Harry...but for the audience to see her as Harry/Hermione are having their moment will drain away so much emotion. Do you think she will be shown?

I know her standing back there looking creepy makes you wonder if she will be in the shot when Hermione is comforting Harry and he is crying. That would be creepy and might take away from the moment Harry is having at the grave.

FilmGirl27
July 12th, 2010, 7:52 pm
One of my most anticipated scenes in DH1 is when Harry and Hermione go to the graveyard. It is an incredible moment...however, there are two things worrying me.

1.) The cinematography in the first sneak peek back in December was much better than the slightly extended MTV trailer we got a week ago (the blue hue was drained). I wonder what will happen.

I liked the blue hue on the old sneak peek better, too. However I'm not sure what the cinematography on the finished film will be like. :shrug: The colors have changed throughout the different clips. Maybe the blue hue will stay in the movie, I'm not sure.

2.) Bathilda in the background. I'm so nervous that they will show her in the graveyard BEFORE Harry/Hermione have their moment. I have no problem if it's after Hermione hugs Harry...but for the audience to see her as Harry/Hermione are having their moment will drain away so much emotion. Do you think she will be shown?

Yeah, that would kind of damage the emotion of that scene. :shrug: I hope they will have Harry cry and Hermione comfort him first, for quite a while, then afterwards widen the shot to reveal Bathilda behind them.

HPFanNewbie
July 12th, 2010, 8:10 pm
If I am remembering correctly, the BTS sneak peak was showing that the camera is focused only on Hermione and Harry at the grave. I think Bathilda is just getting ready to approach them off camera. I am guessing the shot will pan out after Hermione and Harry have their moment and then we see this stranger behind them as they are turning to leave. I hope so anyways!

Can anyone get me a few screen shots side by side (I am not on a computer that I can do that on right now) because I am more convinced now that the scene of Harry somewhere is in Bathilda's and that he and Nagini crash through a wall into that nursery after she initially attacks him in Bathilda's room. From what I can see in the trailer the room in the rectangular hole behind Harry/Nagini looks a lot like the room Harry is standing in with the dust covered mirror. Same coloring and all around shabbiness.

9th_Wonder
July 12th, 2010, 8:19 pm
Can anyone get me a few screen shots side by side (I am not on a computer that I can do that on right now) because I am more convinced now that the scene of Harry somewhere is in Bathilda's and that he and Nagini crash through a wall into that nursery after she initially attacks him in Bathilda's room. From what I can see in the trailer the room in the rectangular hole behind Harry/Nagini looks a lot like the room Harry is standing in with the dust covered mirror. Same coloring and all around shabbiness.

Here you go.


http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/house%20godrics%20hollow/ontheroad4.png
http://i276.photobucket.com/albums/kk18/decarus427/DH/house%20godrics%20hollow/ofteaser2.png

decarus
July 12th, 2010, 8:29 pm
Can anyone get me a few screen shots side by side (I am not on a computer that I can do that on right now) because I am more convinced now that the scene of Harry somewhere is in Bathilda's and that he and Nagini crash through a wall into that nursery after she initially attacks him in Bathilda's room. From what I can see in the trailer the room in the rectangular hole behind Harry/Nagini looks a lot like the room Harry is standing in with the dust covered mirror. Same coloring and all around shabbiness.

I think this is right. The way the camera dips down and Harry jumps out of the way is the reason i thought Godric's hollow. That is how they have shown Nagini attack in the past in OotP. They could use some of the same motion with the camera in the attack at Gordic's hollow. It does seem a little weird that the hole is almost perfectly square.

I haven't gotten over the fact that they are using a different house this time around for the Potter's house. I liked the original one a lot better. It is possible that the houses are connected. I do think though if they are going to show some child's room that it would make sense for it to be Harry's room though and not some random room.

We will see.

nicholasmanning
July 12th, 2010, 9:05 pm
I think this is right. The way the camera dips down and Harry jumps out of the way is the reason i thought Godric's hollow. That is how they have shown Nagini attack in the past in OotP. They could use some of the same motion with the camera in the attack at Gordic's hollow. It does seem a little weird that the whole is almost pefectly square.

I haven't gotten over the fact that they are using a different house this time around for the Potter's house. I liked the original one a lot better. It is possible that the houses are connected. I do think though if they are going to show some child's room that it would make sense for it to be Harry's room though and not some random room.

We will see.

if that is in indeed The Potter,s House that he has crashed into. it wouldnt look so clean and well lit after 16 years.

Jonny7003
July 12th, 2010, 9:09 pm
Of course, Decarus, it makes sense. The camera swooping down and Harry jumping out of the way. He obviously sees the snake in the mirror, turns around and jumps out the way.

nicholasmanning
July 12th, 2010, 9:40 pm
Yea I think thats right. I really just want to know where the split will be once and for all

BlackCatScott
July 12th, 2010, 9:42 pm
Yea I think thats right. I really just want to know where the split will be once and for all

Same here, but at the same time I want it to be a suprise haha. I'm hoping it's after Dobbys death.

MasterOfDeath
July 12th, 2010, 10:15 pm
I'm about an hour into OOTP and there hasn't been any sneak peaks at all. Not even the old ones. :shrug: Just ads for Secret Life of the American Teenager every other commercial. :grumble: :lol:

nicholasmanning
July 12th, 2010, 10:55 pm
i would rather much know where the first movie will end si it wont feel so jarring. hopefully there will be test screenings then we will know once and for all

BlackCatScott
July 12th, 2010, 11:13 pm
I'm about an hour into OOTP and there hasn't been any sneak peaks at all. Not even the old ones. :shrug: Just ads for Secret Life of the American Teenager every other commercial. :grumble: :lol:

Is the repeat on ABC Family now? I'd be dissappointed if they didnt show anything new :(

nicholasmanning
July 12th, 2010, 11:40 pm
i dont think were getting any new footage. the 3 we saw i think is it.

AccioHP
July 13th, 2010, 12:17 am
So I just finished re reading DH and the scene when Hagrid carries harry's body to in front of the school and everyone, specifically McGonagall shouting NO! and Ron, hermione, and Ginny screaming out to Harry, was really chilling. I hope they have this in the movie and that it is as chilling as in the book

Fury
July 13th, 2010, 12:28 am
So I just finished re reading DH and the scene when Hagrid carries harry's body to in front of the school and everyone, specifically McGonagall shouting NO! and Ron, hermione, and Ginny screaming out to Harry, was really chilling. I hope they have this in the movie and that it is as chilling as in the book

They will. There was an interview on Snitch Seeker with Warwick Davis, and he said that it is oe of his favorite scenes they shot.

Warwick said:

People who've read the books will know this, but the moment where Voldemort exclaims that Harry Potter is dead ... to have read that and to actually be there as it's happening, that was quite emotional and quite surreal. It sends a shiver down your spine because you're standing there and witnessing this event. It's almost like reading the newspaper going back in time, witnessing a world-changing event.

http://www.snitchseeker.com/harry-potter-news/video-warwick-davis-favorite-moment-deathly-hallows-74340