Way Ahead for Deathly Hallows Movie(s) v.5

So...we've had the trailer. On with the posting, but please remember to keep the chat out! Posts that are just chatty will be deleted. ^_^

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One more thing I noticed is that at 0:53 right as Voldemort casts the Killing Curse you can see Bellatrix aiming her wand at Harry. Maybe she says something like, "What are you playing at, little boy?" and jumps out at him before Voldemort calms her down. Thoughts, everyone?

Ugh, I had the post all ready to go and then "sorry, this thread is not accepting posts anymore" or something that...had to copy and paste the links all over. Anyways, NOW here's my last screencap posting for the night :p

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Well I've watched it a fair few times now and you can't help being in awe by it.

I think watching the sneak peeks of the previous films, then watching the DH trailer just shows how much the series has grown.

I think where all the Death Eaters are all together could be just after Voldy has performed Avada and he's told Narcissa to see if he's dead.

And to think there was no actual footage of Umbridge and the Ministry Infiltration in there!

Gonna be a LONG 5 months.....

I nearly cried at happiness at that trailer. How amazing was it oh my god.

1:49, isn't that the ministry infiltration? Or have I got it completely wrong.

Thanks, lc. You're a trooper.

Well I've watched it a fair few times now and you can't help being in awe by it.

I think watching the sneak peeks of the previous films, then watching the DH trailer just shows how much the series has grown.

I think where all the Death Eaters are all together could be just after Voldy has performed Avada and he's told Narcissa to see if he's dead.

And to think there was no actual footage of Umbridge and the Ministry Infiltration in there!

Gonna be a LONG 5 months.....

I don't think that Voldemort and Death Eaters shot is in the forest, sugni. You can see the sky quite clearly. One thing I do notice about that shot however, is that Voldemort is almost rubbing his wand. This movement brought the object to my attention. There appears to be no bone handle. At this point Voldemort has the Elder Wand.

There was only a tiny bit of Ministry infiltration footage in there. One or two quick glimpses of Ron were seen. However, you're right - for the most part that sequence is yet to be showed off. It just goes to show that people need to stop complaining about being spoiled. There is still so, so much we haven't seen.

EDIT: Willz has one of those shots. Thanks for the timestamp.

I nearly cried at happiness at that trailer. How amazing was it oh my god.

1:49, isn't that the ministry infiltration? Or have I got it completely wrong.

Yeah, that's the ministry heist. Right after that is the Nagini attack.

The part with the trio near a river during sunset. IF that is the scene after Gringotts, then it's absolutely perfect. The atmosphere is almost exactly the same as the US book cover.

Yups, there are 2 Ministry Infiltration scenes, but they whizz pass quite fast. One thing I believe they were during with this trailer is show how much the Harry Potter series have changed. They also want to get people excited, and one way to do that would be to show new set pieces, and new locations. Filmgoers have seen quite alot of the Ministry in OOTP, and the scenes in the trailer pass so fast that only the scenery will register in viewer's mind. Thus, less of the Ministry will be shown, in favour of the newer places like Bathilda's House or the gorgeous scenery in the camping scenes. :clap:

EDIT: Oops someone posted before me! BTW, the only scene I do not want to see is King's Cross. It needs to be a surprise. A scenery shot may be good, but definitely no Dumbledore/Harry inside.

Ron fleeing of Yaxley part: you can clearly see Ministry 'policemen' controlling the crowd in the background. And you can see a long, stone colum in the background, probably the 'Magic is Might' statue.

The part with the trio near a river during sunset. IF that is the scene after Gringotts, then it's absolutely perfect. The atmosphere is almost exactly the same as the US book cover.

In the book they jump off the dragon and fall into a lake. The US book cover is almost twenty-four hours after this takes place. I think that shot of the trio walking is simply them traveling the countryside.

Thanks, lc. You're a trooper.



I don't think that Voldemort and Death Eaters shot is in the forest, sugnid. You can see the sky quite clearly. One thing I do notice about that shot however, is that Voldemort is almost rubbing his wand. This movement brought the object to my attention. There appears to be no bone handle. At this point Voldemort has the Elder Wand.

There was only a tiny bit of Ministry infiltration footage in there. One or two quick glimpses of Ron were seen. However, you're right - for the most part that sequence is yet to be showed off. It just goes to show that people need to stop complaining about being spoiled. There is still so, so much we haven't seen.

My mistake, I do apologise. good spot with the bone off the handle as well - maybe that has some sort of significance towards Dumbledore perhaps.

Yeah there are brief glimpses of the Ministry but nothing major to note and I'm very glad of that. Can't wait to see those Dementors again!

In the book they jump off the dragon and fall into a lake. The US book cover is almost twenty-four hours after this takes place. I think that shot of the trio walking is simply them traveling the countryside.

I mean the cover with the trio riding the dragon during sunset :)

In the book they jump off the dragon and fall into a lake. The US book cover is almost twenty-four hours after this takes place. I think that shot of the trio walking is simply them traveling the countryside.


I think ThaiHPFan was referring to the deluxe US cover, with the dragon on it :)

Edit:

^ :lol:

I have to say that I am still odd about this trailer. I'm not filled with the drive to analysis the screencaps to pieces, I'm just really emotional over it. I think the music was part of it - that was very strong, especially when they had those titles about the worldwide phenomena of a generation ending :sigh:

I'm just really emotional over it. I think the music was part of it - that was very strong, especially when they had those titles about the worldwide phenomena of a generation ending :sigh:

That's the thing that hit home with me as well. I think people forget that outside of these forums that HP is a global phenomenon. We are very lucky and fortunate to have been part of it.

It will be a bittersweet moment walking into the Cinema for Part 2 next year that's for sure.

I saw the trailer on the news a second ago. they destroyed it by cutting out all the title cards and several shots and with terrible quality. it angers me.

The small clip of Nagini attacking Harry in what is presumably Godric's Hollow seems a bit... more normal than what I expected. It looks too well lit and clean or something - for some reason I imagined the house/scene to be in smoky, dark, dingy light.

One more thing I noticed is that at 0:53 right as Voldemort casts the Killing Curse you can see Bellatrix aiming her wand at Harry. Maybe she says something like, "What are you playing at, little boy?" and jumps out at him before Voldemort calms her down. Thoughts, everyone?

Or taunting him, thats very much Bellatrix's style

The small clip of Nagini attacking Harry in what is presumably Godric's Hollow seems a bit... more normal than what I expected. It looks too well lit and clean or something - for some reason I imagined the house/scene to be in smoky, dark, dingy light.

That's what I thought. It looks like a kids room with sun shining through but I expected it to be extremely dark with candles providing the only light and piles of clothes on the floor.

Still, Nagini looks so cool!

I agree about the Nagini attack. I was actually shocked when I saw that scene because it was so bright and clean, yet something so bad is happening. It's actually creepier than I imagined when reading the book because Nagini looks so out of place. I wonder if they made the setting like that so the audience would not anticipate something happening. That's like the last place you expect to see a giant snake.

I love the fact that Voldemort is standing on Dumbledore's grave when casting that lightning bolt into the sky. Nagini looks fantastic.

I love the fact that Voldemort is standing on Dumbledore's grave when casting that lightning bolt into the sky. Nagini looks fantastic.

Love it too, makes it really epic. Those additions are the ones I like: it strengthens the atmosphere and feel of certain parts.

Love it too, makes it really epic. Those additions are the ones I like: it strengthens the atmosphere and feel of certain parts.

Would have liked to have seen a little of Bill Nighy =( I'm sure we did get a glimpse of Peter Mullan as Yaxley though =)

Best thing about this trailer is that we still have about 5 hours worth of footage still to see!!! Must have been tough to pick those scenes out of everything they've filmed.

Like the trailer. :tu:

Dislike the music they used for it. :yuhup: Honestly, it sounds like every epic trailer music you've ever heard. :rotfl:

The cinematography is yummy! :agree: It all looks very bleak, desolate and tense -- perfect. And Rupert Grint actually appears to be acting. :yuhup:

I like the Death Eater flagging down the Hogwarts Express. :cool:

Also that shot of Hermione walking on her own down a lonely path towards what appears to be The Overlook Hotel. :lol: Nice.

I am surprised by how 'spoilery' it is in certain places. :hmm: But, hey, The Two Towers trailer was also incredibly spoilery. :lol:

Part I:


1. I loved every single shot from the Seven Potters. That fiery 'rocket' falling towards Thames, the Thestral, the Death Eaters, Harry controlling the motorbike while Hagrid is stunned. Amazing. Amazing! This will be an epic sequence.

2.Camping and Travelling. The very first shots with the gigantic lake and the river were stunning. Some of the best cinematography I've ever seen. Beautiful stuff.

3.The Silver Doe. Woah. All three short glimpses of Ron and Harry (KILL IT RON!) were so intense and creepy. This will be another great scene and I love the look of it.

4.The Ministry Infiltration. Was that Pius Thickness? I love the fact that we'll see THE ORIGINAL TRIO in the ending of the entire sequence. I'd love to see them battling the Ministry officials in the Atrium and judging from the people behind, it seems that there is some CGI not finished there. And the statue!

5.Nagini's attack. There is this huge hole in the wall and the room behind it is extremely dark and spooky. I guess this is Bathilda's attic leading to another house with this children room which makes a great contrast. Since it's part of the battle with Nagini, I'm OK with it. If that was Bathilda's attic it would be terrible. But it's alright now. But, I've got to mention that this is the only scene I didn't like that much in the trailer. And the CGI aren't great either. Anyway, we'll see.

Part II:

Where to begin?
The dragon? Bellatrix/Hermione's awesome scared face? The Forest Again? The final confrontation? The hundreds of wizards running in the forest? The massive fiery explosions in the Hogwarts Courtyard? Voldemort taking the Elder Wand? The protection sphere wearing off? The slow-mo of Ron and Hermione fighting? The epic talk between Harry and Voldemort in that tower? The Fiendfyre glimpse? Everything was amazing.



Imagine that they've just started the official post-production for Part I and they'll start working on Part II in November. And they've done so much already! Imagine how awesome the theatrical trailers for each part will be with finished CGI and finished cinematography!

This was the best teaser trailer of the series, hands down. Actually it was the best trailer they've released (maybe the HBP one surpasses it, I still don't know). I was very pleased.

I do agree with those who were talking about that river in one of the first shots. That seems like an awesome place for the dragon to set down after the Gringott's heist. And it is an absolutely beautiful place. I'd love to know where that was filmed at :tu:

About the Nagini scene, I like the idea of the Potters and Bathilda being neighbors and the hole in the wall is from Harry's baby room into Bathilda's house. Who knows, maybe Harry actually goes into the house in the movie and sees the room, then Nagini comes in and attacks. Though it would take off the great and powerful eerieness of Nagini coming out of Bathilda... so I kinda hope this isn't right.

ETA: Something not in the trailer, but I think needs to be addressed. What do you think of Lucius possibly checking on Harry instead of Narcissa? Narcissa never met Harry in the movies, so it would be sort of odd. And Lucius and Harry have had MANY scenes in the movies.

Man I loved the trailer! I was quite surprised that whole "come to die" scene was in there for the most part! Man I can not wait...this is going to make waiting so much tougher now!

-JR

ETA: Something not in the trailer, but I think needs to be addressed. What do you think of Lucius possibly checking on Harry instead of Narcissa? Narcissa never met Harry in the movies, so it would be sort of odd. And Lucius and Harry have had MANY scenes in the movies.

I don't think in the same situation Lucius would have reacted the same way as I don't think he'd be able to conceal the truth from Voldemort so easily and Voldemort would be much more suspicious of Lucius than of Nascissa. Another important point, was Narcissa their within sight? I have to have another look.

Overall I think the trailer looks great. At first sight it seems like it shows too much, especially from the scene in the forest, but then I notice that we don't see anything of Kreacher nor hear anything about Harry and Dumbledore. These are major twists in the story which I'm looking forward to a lot:)

I was really captivated and pleasantly surprised by the landscape shots we've seen both in this trailer and in the teasers. I didn't expect it to look so beautiful.

Most of the shots from part 1 look even rawer and more intense than I had imagined. The 7 Potters chase scene looks like it's going to be great and Ron's destruction of the locket looks just right as well! I'm very happy that they seem to have included some reference to Hermione modifying her parents memories, that shot of her walking towards the house was so emotional!

At first I must admit I didn't like the idea of an extended duel between Voldemort and Harry. I'm not a fan of extended action scenes just for the sake of catering to the audience. But I suspect that instead of just showing Harry and Voldemort circling each other and talking like in the book, they will make it more visual and show us more shots where the information is provided bit by bit. The actual meaning of why Harry defeats Voldemort won't be changed I'm sure.

I'm a bit uncertain as to how the cinematography for part 2 will be. I like most of what I've seen in the trailer, but it looks like it will be more varied than what I expected.

The final two movies look like they are going to be awesome! The trailer was amazing it gave me chills, i just wish they hadnt spent so much time saying things like the final chapter, and it all concludes etc. It also seemed like a lot of the scenes they showed were things that will probably appear in the second fill not the first. But i like where they are going with it and from the trailer you really get the sense that there is a war brewing and an army of death eaters knocking at the door.

Did anybody else notice what looks like a little glowing man while Harry and Voldemort are priori incantatem-ing? It's in the close-up of Voldemort:

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It could just be the sun shining through the courtyard, but it seems kind of out of place. And it's not just for a moment - it stays still through the whole shot, so it's not just some random variation of sparks. It's probably just me being paranoid :D

I think that is something on fire on that side of the courtyard that you are seeing through the spell

Just found this new trailer with the music 'all or nothing' that was rumoured. I must say i prefare this music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TKedmUlDcM

Just found this new trailer with the music 'all or nothing' that was rumoured. I must say i prefare this music

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TKedmUlDcM

Its fake made up of the MTV and todays trailers. You can see the MTV logo in certiain shots but not in others.

i know, its still good though

Any idea what Ron is "swiping" at? It's at about the 1.57 mark in the trailer.

Any idea what Ron is "swiping" at? It's at about the 1.57 mark in the trailer.

Not sure, but it looks Battle of Hogwarts-y to me...

The HP7 website is up too. I didn't think to check until just now. They have the trailer, the synopsis, and a couple of pictures.

Not sure, but it looks Battle of Hogwarts-y to me...

Yeah, it looks like he's wearing the same clothes. Finally Ron in the movies will have something to do; prove that he's not the whimpering sidekick Kloves had made him out to be.

(even in OotP Ron is whimpering when he's shouting Stupefy - which Kloves didn't write so maybe it's Grints fault? Anyway it looks like he's pulled it together for the last one)

After listening to the Mugglecast last night, I kind of agree with them that the scene of Hermione walking alone might be her with Harry in Godric's Hollow. Remember Harry was under the invisibility cloak...
In the book though, they are disguised as the old man and the old woman, so unless they decided to drop that idea for the films, this doesn't make sense on second thought...
In a previous clip we had seen Hermione swipe her hand over a tombstone to see the word Peverell underneath the snow. I don't recall if her hand looked like that of an old woman, but if not, then maybe they are dropping that piece and leaving them as themselves?

I never noticed the "gold man" there before...heck I have not noticed half the details you all have. I keep having to view the trailer to keep up...but maybe that has something to do with the ghosts of Sirius, his mother and father...maybe they changed it so they are with him in the battle and not just when he comes to die? I am not sure what else it could be, but I am sure if it is them, they tried to edit them out, so we wouldn't see too much, but missed some.
In the beginning I did think they showed a little too much...but now thinking about it there really is so much we have not seen. I agree with whoever said it earlier...I do not want to see any of the Kings Cross scene until the film because that was amazing in the book and really would give away the ending for those viewing the trailer without reading the books.

The blemish on the elder wand has been bugging me. You can see it un several of the Voldie shots. I think they might mark it with the DH symbol.

Any idea what Ron is "swiping" at? It's at about the 1.57 mark in the trailer.I think Harry is yelling 'Ron kill it!' or something like that. I think it is something coming out of the Horcrux.

I think Harry is yelling 'Ron kill it!' or something like that. I think it is something coming out of the Horcrux.

Nah, I think they are taking about another quick shot of Ron that isn't in the Silver Doe scene. It's definitely at the Battle of Hogwarts. It's probably him just whipping his wand doing a spell at someone.

At first I must admit I didn't like the idea of an extended duel between Voldemort and Harry. I'm not a fan of extended action scenes just for the sake of catering to the audience. But I suspect that instead of just showing Harry and Voldemort circling each other and talking like in the book, they will make it more visual and show us more shots where the information is provided bit by bit. The actual meaning of why Harry defeats Voldemort won't be changed I'm sure.I'm a little confused about this myself. I don't want an extended scene that moves all over the castle, and why on earth are they alone? And why is there a Priori Incantatem at all - the whole thing was supposed to be fast which is what made such a great climax in the book.

And how is it that Voldie can get so close to Harry as to grab his face? Somebody please explain!

Nah, I think they are taking about another quick shot of Ron that isn't in the Silver Doe scene. It's definitely at the Battle of Hogwarts. It's probably him just whipping his wand doing a spell at someone.Ah, I tried to look at the right time. The scene with broken castle in the back seem to me that Hermione is pushing Ron back while he's fighting so maybe it's after Fred dies. OR it could be while they're trying to get to the Chamber of Secrets if they decide to put that in. But in general, I think it's just there to show that Ron is actually fighting.

I'm a little confused about this myself. I don't want an extended scene that moves all over the castle, and why on earth are they alone? And why is there a Priori Incantatem at all - the whole thing was supposed to be fast which is what made such a great climax in the book.

And how is it that Voldie can get so close to Harry as to grab his face? Somebody please explain!



Voldemort has been able to touch Harry since Goblet of Fire. That "Why do you live" scene is probably part of their long drawn out battle around Hogwarts which probably ends up in the Great Hall.

Before the trailer came out, we had a long discussion here about the final duel. I don't think that part they showed Harry and Voldemort dueling in the courtyard is their final dueling spot. I think it is just right before it.

I think Harry is yelling 'Ron kill it!' or something like that. I think it is something coming out of the Horcrux.

Isnt neville supposed to kill the snake?? Ill be upset if they change that to ron.

Voldemort has been able to touch Harry since Goblet of Fire. That "Why do you live" scene is probably part of their long drawn out battle around Hogwarts which probably ends up in the Great Hall.I get that he is able to physically touch him - what I mean is that there should be no instance in a final battle that they would get close enough to grab one another's face. LV wants Harry dead, so he's not going to resort to muggle behavior by grabbing his face like a child's and questioning him. Just doesn't seem to fit for me.

Before the trailer came out, we had a long discussion here about the final duel. I don't think that part they showed Harry and Voldemort dueling in the courtyard is their final dueling spot. I think it is just right before it.Ok, that would make me feel better. I still don't like the idea of a drawn out battle, I think the powerful aspect of the book version is that they don't actually fight until the very end and it's all about the wand. LV is taken by surprise because he doesn't expect 'other' magic at play.

Isnt neville supposed to kill the snake?? Ill be upset if they change that to ron.I would leave the theater if that happens. Seriously. I think that scene is when the defeat the Locket Horcrux. I think they're going to have something come out of it to be more dramatic.

Did anybody notice the old chess piece behing Ron in the first shot of the burning ROR? *nostalgia!*

Ron isn't killing the snake. The camera is panning sideways over a rock/tree trunk as he brings down his sword this is most likely the horcrux locket scene.

Isnt neville supposed to kill the snake?? Ill be upset if they change that to ron.

Ron isn't killing the snake. The camera is panning sideways over a rock/tree trunk as he brings down his sword this is most likely the horcrux locket scene.

Did anybody notice the old chess piece behing Ron in the first shot of the burning ROR? *nostalgia!*

Ron isn't killing the snake. The camera is panning sideways over a rock/tree trunk as he brings down his sword this is most likely the horcrux locket scene.

I didn't notice it until the guys on MuggleCast said it. It's a great idea. They had it around their storage in Leavesden, so they probably thought it was a good idea to put it in.

And yeah, you can definitely tell from the forest scenes that have been shot, and that scene that the "Kill it" and the Ron scene are both the Horcrux scene. Harry just says "Kill it" instead of "Stab it!"

The blemish on the elder wand has been bugging me. You can see it un several of the Voldie shots. I think they might mark it with the DH symbol.

The wand does have markings on it. Not sure if that is the mark that you are talking about though. Here is a link with a picture of the wand replica from the Noble Collection. (http://www.noblecollection.com/catalog/product.cfm?id=NN7145&catid=21) You can see the mark there.

Did anybody notice the old chess piece behing Ron in the first shot of the burning ROR? *nostalgia!* I'm sure there are so many goodies in that room to look out for!

Ron isn't killing the snake. The camera is panning sideways over a rock/tree trunk as he brings down his sword this is most likely the horcrux locket scene.Great point.

Is anyone annoyed that Harry is holding his wand when he approaches LV ready to die? I would like to see him stow the wand and the cloak and then drop the stone. It's the small things that show the understanding of the story.

I never noticed the "gold man" there before...heck I have not noticed half the details you all have. I keep having to view the trailer to keep up...but maybe that has something to do with the ghosts of Sirius, his mother and father...maybe they changed it so they are with him in the battle and not just when he comes to die? I am not sure what else it could be, but I am sure if it is them, they tried to edit them out, so we wouldn't see too much, but missed some..

Sorry-maybe this got lost in the last thread. What "gold man" are you talking about here? What point in the trailer are you talking about ?

The 'gold man' image is in this post: http://www.cosforums.com/showpost.php?p=5558168&postcount=32

Sorry-maybe this got lost in the last thread. What "gold man" are you talking about here? What point in the trailer are you talking about ?

It's a light (most likely fire) in one of the last shots of the trailer during the duel. You can see something behind the sparks that is stationary. Like I said, probably fire.

Yes I am also annoyed by Harry having his wand out too.

I'm sure there are so many goodies in that room to look out for!

Great point.

Is anyone annoyed that Harry is holding his wand when he approaches LV ready to die? I would like to see him stow the wand and the cloak and then drop the stone. It's the small things that show the understanding of the story.

Just because we don't see him drop the stone and take off/put away the cloak doesn't mean that he doesn't do so in the film. It's just a trailer we're looking at and things probably don't happen exactly as they do in the book. I also don't think it's a big deal that he's holding his wand. We don't have the luxury of knowing Harry's thoughts about knowing there is no chance of him killing the snake at this point, and holding his wand doesn't mean that he uses his wand or has any intention of doing so. IMO.

I'm a little confused about this myself. I don't want an extended scene that moves all over the castle, and why on earth are they alone? And why is there a Priori Incantatem at all - the whole thing was supposed to be fast which is what made such a great climax in the book.

The whole final duel/Priori Incantatem thing, well that's been covered in the last version of this thread to death. there will be an extended duel and there is no Priori Incantatem, it's merely spells meeting.

How will he not drop the wand when playing dead If he doesn't put It away? I am hoping before he closes his eyes he puts his wand away.

How will he not drop the wand when playing dead If he doesn't put It away? I am hoping before he closes his eyes he puts his wand away.

The shot where you see him with his wand may not be from the exact moment when Voldemort looks at him. They are making it look that way, but that isn't necessarily the case. I have wondered if this is an unfinished effects shot around the time when he uses the stone... either just before or after.

Also, if you look at the shot where Voldemort and Harry are in the same shot Harry is not holding his wand. He has either put it away before now or he has dropped it and may somehow grab it covertly later on. And actually it's a case of... he walks into the clearing without a wand, the shot changes and he has a wand, and then in the wider shot with Voldemort he doesn't have a wand.

So either the shots are from different moments or there is a continuity error or there is something we are not seeing in this trailer. IMHO, it will make sense in the film. I wouldn't care if he slightly moves and manages to get his wand while the DEs are distracted. Maybe even has his wand given to him covertly by Narcissa or Lucius or whoever checks on him in the film.

I have to say that I am still odd about this trailer. I'm not filled with the drive to analysis the screencaps to pieces, I'm just really emotional over it. I think the music was part of it - that was very strong, especially when they had those titles about the worldwide phenomena of a generation ending :sigh:

In case anyone is wondering further about the music, i've identified two songs used in the trailer:
(0:52-1:32) "Glacial Supremacy" ~ Pfeifer Broz.
(1:40-1:59) "Absolute Arthopoid" ~ Pfeifer Broz.

Pfeifer Broz also did the Theatrical Trailer for Order of the Phoenix with "DNA Reactor" I'm guessing that all the other pieces of music is done by Magic Box Music, I know the new version of Hedwig's theme when the logo comes up is DEFINATELY Magic Box Music, but anyway. Just to be clear, as sometimes people dont know this, the music in this trailer is NOT representitive of The Score by Alexandre Desplat. They stopped using the new movies score in the trailers after Goblet of Fire. Just making sure everyone knows that this is NOT Alexandre Desplat's score for Deathly Hallows Part 1, because I remember quite afew people thought that David Arnold's score for Narnia 3 was used in the trailer when it was first released but no. Just making sure everyone knows.

I don't think in the same situation Lucius would have reacted the same way as I don't think he'd be able to conceal the truth from Voldemort so easily and Voldemort would be much more suspicious of Lucius than of Nascissa. Another important point, was Narcissa their within sight? I have to have another look.
Narcissa was in the forest next to Lucius in the trailer when Voldemort was AKing harry. You could see two long blonds in the background. I think it will still be Narcissa to check Harry. Harry knows who she is, and she knows who Harry is. No introduction necessary.
Oh, and in the thestral scene, did anyone else catch the brief glimpse of Kingsley on a thestral? I paused it and it was definitely him.

The shot where you see him with his wand may not be from the exact moment when Voldemort looks at him. They are making it look that way, but that isn't necessarily the case. I have wondered if this is an unfinished effects shot around the time when he uses the stone... either just before or after.

Also, if you look at the shot where Voldemort and Harry are in the same shot Harry is not holding his wand. He has either put it away before now or he has dropped it and may somehow grab it covertly later on. And actually it's a case of... he walks into the clearing without a wand, the shot changes and he has a wand, and then in the wider shot with Voldemort he doesn't have a wand.

So either the shots are from different moments or there is a continuity error or there is something we are not seeing in this trailer. IMHO, it will make sense in the film. I wouldn't care if he slightly moves and manages to get his wand while the DEs are distracted. Maybe even has his wand given to him covertly by Narcissa or Lucius or whoever checks on him in the film.

I completely agree here. The sequences are definitely out of order, because when Harry moves out of the way, there is no reason he should be moving when Voldemort sends the AK curse. It's just that way for the trailer. They do that a lot in the trailers so it looks one way, but it is actually another way.

Narcissa was in the forest next to Lucius in the trailer when Voldemort was AKing harry. You could see two long blonds in the background. I think it will still be Narcissa to check Harry. Harry knows who she is, and she knows who Harry is. No introduction necessary.
Oh, and in the thestral scene, did anyone else catch the brief glimpse of Kingsley on a thestral? I paused it and it was definitely him.

Yeah I saw that! I thought that was great. Hermione was with him in the book, so I am assuming she is the one behind disguised as Harry.

Oh, I just found this on youtube. Someone put the trailer music in one video and edited it together. Here it is
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQXMwe-U360

Also, if you look at the shot where Voldemort and Harry are in the same shot Harry is not holding his wand. He has either put it away before now or he has dropped it and may somehow grab it covertly later on. And actually it's a case of... he walks into the clearing without a wand, the shot changes and he has a wand, and then in the wider shot with Voldemort he doesn't have a wand.
:huggles: Thanks I feel better.

It's a small detail I know, but one that is important to me. :)

Did anybody notice the old chess piece behing Ron in the first shot of the burning ROR? *nostalgia!*

Yeah, I noticed that - in later shots you can also see those wierd eyes that Moody has around his office/classroom, and what looks like Quidditch supplies from the first film.

EDIT: I think I also saw Umbridge's desk, but I'm not sure...

I have to say that I am still odd about this trailer. I'm not filled with the drive to analysis the screencaps to pieces, I'm just really emotional over it. I think the music was part of it - that was very strong, especially when they had those titles about the worldwide phenomena of a generation ending :sigh:
I wasn't at first. I was so excited about the trailer and still am, but this morning when I watched it, I started to feel a little odd about it all.


Isnt neville supposed to kill the snake?? Ill be upset if they change that to ron.
I think Matthew Lewis talked about him doing that scene. It's definitely Neville that does it and not Ron.

Thanks again for the screencaps lc.
I just absolutely love the shot of LV on DD's grave casting the spell up! It's just amazing!

I read in the previous thread people talking about Nagini being in the Potter's house at Godric's Hollow. I have to say, if they did this in the movie, I would be very disappointed. First of all the Potter's house should be completely destroyed, and even if it weren't for some reason I would not want Harry to be attacked in what should be as some said a "sacred place." If they have Harry go into the Potter's house they have to do it absolutely perfect or I'll be disappointed.

Ugh, I had the post all ready to go and then "sorry, this thread is not accepting posts anymore" or something that...had to copy and paste the links all over. Anyways, NOW here's my last screencap posting for the night :p

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Some of the links aren't working it seems. And it looks like you've gone over your bandwidth. That's no surprise with all those screencaps :lol:

Originally Posted by ArryGrotter View Post
I have to say that I am still odd about this trailer. I'm not filled with the drive to analysis the screencaps to pieces, I'm just really emotional over it. I think the music was part of it - that was very strong, especially when they had those titles about the worldwide phenomena of a generation ending

Same here, I did analyse it bit by bit for myself, but at the end , unlike with other trailers, I am not overjoyed. Yes , I am anticipating the film, but I dunno. I got all nostalgic, kind of sad. The way they present the trailer, as it really is , the end of an era. It got me all emotional. Sad , even tearful. Maybe it was Toystory 3 that got me in that mood,or watching the links Vince provided of the other trailers. The truth is I honestly feel weird about it. Bittersweet, it promises to be brilliant, but then again I feel mostly bitter. I dont want it to end I think. that must be the feeling behind it all. *sighs*

Thanks for the screencaps Scott! As always , you rock!

Some of the links aren't working it seems. And it looks like you've gone over your bandwidth. That's no surprise with all those screencaps :lol:

Ah ****, seriously? How do I get around that issue? :hmm: And I was going to post the rest here shortly now they've all been uploaded.

Argh, this ****** me off! :relax:

Ah ****, seriously? How do I get around that issue? :hmm:

Oh yeah, that happened for me too. I meant to tell you on your wall

Oh yeah, that happened for me too. I meant to tell you on your wall

Ok, I'll try uploading them to a different site then that doesn't have bandwidth restrictions :relax: Shouldn't take too long to re-upload...I did about 150 of 'em in the last 30 min, I'm getting more efficient at it :lol:

Yeah, I noticed that - in later shots you can also see those wierd eyes that Moody has around his office/classroom, and what looks like Quidditch supplies from the first film.

EDIT: I think I also saw Umbridge's desk, but I'm not sure...
Did anyone notice the red Chinese lanterns that were hanging from the ceiling? Those are from the Slug Club party in HBP. I love these little references :)

Full collection of screenshots that I made:

http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/antuonchris/Harry%20Potter/Trailer%20Stills/

Full collection of screenshots that I made:

http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/antuonchris/Harry%20Potter/Trailer%20Stills/

I'm getting a log in window?

I'm getting a log in window?

:sigh: Ugh. It's working for me, perhaps because I'm logged in. Maybe this link?

http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/antuonchris/Harry%20Potter/Trailer%20Stills/?mediafilter=images

Nevermind, sorry. The album was on private. I fixed it, now visible.

:sigh: Ugh. It's working for me, perhaps because I'm logged in. Maybe this link?

http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/antuonchris/Harry%20Potter/Trailer%20Stills/?mediafilter=images

Nevermind, sorry. The album was on private. I fixed it, now visible.

thanks for the screenshots. this link works for me

:sigh: Ugh. It's working for me, perhaps because I'm logged in. Maybe this link?

http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/antuonchris/Harry%20Potter/Trailer%20Stills/?mediafilter=images

Nevermind, sorry. The album was on private. I fixed it, now visible.

Only 83? :p pfft...

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/antuonchris/Harry%20Potter/Trailer%20Stills/Screenshot2010-06-28at72849PM.png
What does everyone think the trio are looking at in this picture? Could it be Hogwarts exploding? I was gonna say maybe it's during the Fiendfyre scene but it looks to be outside the building. I'm loving their expressions in this photo. The acting looks great!

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/antuonchris/Harry%20Potter/Trailer%20Stills/Screenshot2010-06-28at72842PM.png
Do you think they have to add fire in post production in this scene?

Only 83? :p pfft...

Haha, yes only.
I actually started with 120 something, but I deleted duplicate shots. I got a little crazy with The Forest Again scene and Voldie grabbing Harry's face :elaugh:

The album was on private. I fixed it, now visible.

Thanks!

Couple of observations: I wonder if that image of Bellatiex isn't her throwing the knife at Dobby - not shooting a curse.

I also think that the image of Voldy blasting something, isn't him in the cave discovering the lost horcrux. The "tower"like shapes in the background could be the crystal formations

However, that guy's way is smarter...I'll just link you to my entire album :lol:

Should be just a few more minutes to upload :)

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/antuonchris/Harry%20Potter/Trailer%20Stills/Screenshot2010-06-28at72849PM.png
What does everyone think the trio are looking at in this picture? Could it be Hogwarts exploding?

Or it could be giants or dementors. Remember in the book, the trio were on the grounds, and they ran into dementors. Luna, Neville and Dean (I think? maybe others) comes up and helps them with Patronuses. Then giants come.

83 photo screen shot collection:

http://s462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/antuonchris/Harry%20Potter/Trailer%20Stills/

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What does everyone think the trio are looking at in this picture? Could it be Hogwarts exploding? I was gonna say maybe it's during the Fiendfyre scene but it looks to be outside the building. I'm loving their expressions in this photo.

Could be anything during the battle, like the moment the spiders arrive, the giants, ... or something big and insanely cool etc?

Oh and FYI, Oclumencia has some pretty big hig res stills as well (though not as easily linkable.) http://www.oclumencia.com.br/galeria/thumbnails.php?album=1156

Thanks!

Couple of observations: I wonder if that image of Bellatiex isn't her throwing the knife at Dobby - not shooting a curse.

I also think that the image of Voldy blasting something, isn't him in the cave discovering the lost horcrux. The "tower"like shapes in the background could be the crystal formations
It is definitely Bellatrix throwing the knife. I watched it frame by frame and you could see she was throwing something.

Oh and FYI, Oclumencia has some pretty big hig res stills as well (though not as easily linkable.) http://www.oclumencia.com.br/galeria/thumbnails.php?album=1156

Wow, theirs are massive! But they've only got 158. The only site I've seen outdo me are SS (they've got like over 300) but I think mine are slightly better quality (using VLC)...and you have to download theirs as a zipfile from Megaupload, which is kinda a pain if you ask me :shrug:

The full 269 images or whatever ridiculous amount I have will be coming soon :lol: I'm just waiting for imageshack to upload 'em all...

It is definitely Bellatrix throwing the knife. I watched it frame by frame and you could see she was throwing something.

Yeah, on MuggleCast when they did the live viewing where you could see them, they showed that shot in slow-mo. It showed her throwing a knife. It's a lot cooler in slow-mo then in the trailer. Because at one point you see the knife in the air coming right at the screen.

I'm not going to watch the movie in 3D, but I imagine that will be scary in 3D! :lol:

A couple of days ago, I was worrying that Lucius would be the one to lie to Voldemort and not Narcissa, but the trailer yesterday just cemented the fact that Narcissa WILL be the one to betray Voldemort. Seeing her in the trailer next to Lucius made me very happy. Helen McCrory was once interviewed by RottenTomatoes a few months back and she called DH "epic" so many times...which implies that she did have a pivotal role in the movie.

Narcissa's betrayal to the Dark Lord is kept in. Thank God.

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/antuonchris/Harry%20Potter/Trailer%20Stills/Screenshot2010-06-28at72849PM.png
What does everyone think the trio are looking at in this picture? Could it be Hogwarts exploding? I was gonna say maybe it's during the Fiendfyre scene but it looks to be outside the building. I'm loving their expressions in this photo. The acting looks great!
I've been watching the trailer and I've wondered the same thing about this pic. I love the shock and fear on their faces.
I think like others have said, it could be giants

Is this what I think it is in Harry's hands:
I think you can see the diadem in Harry's hands...maybe I'm just seeing things, but there is a white line above his hands...it's not the best shot, but:

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u175/missa_045/Diadem3.jpg

At 1:44 in the trailer, are the Death Eaters trampling dead students?

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/antuonchris/Harry%20Potter/Trailer%20Stills/Screenshot2010-06-28at72849PM.png
What does everyone think the trio are looking at in this picture? Could it be Hogwarts exploding? I was gonna say maybe it's during the Fiendfyre scene but it looks to be outside the building. I'm loving their expressions in this photo. The acting looks great!

I think giants because they are looking up and backing up. I guess it could also be a giant spider. Maybe Ron takes a swipe at a giant like he did in OotP in this photo.

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/antuonchris/Harry%20Potter/Trailer%20Stills/Screenshot2010-06-28at72802PM.png

At 1:44 in the trailer, are the Death Eaters trampling dead students?

Yes, there is a dead student to the left of Voldemort when the Death Eaters come.

Perhaps this has already been discussed (though it's so brief you might have missed it) but any guesses as to what's going on here?

http://yfrog.com/09vlcsnap2010062818h28m05p

If you go frame by frame on that you can see Voldemort appears to cast some powerful spell or something by throwing his hands down...it's pretty awesome.

I think giants because they are looking up and backing up. I guess it could also be a giant spider. Maybe Ron takes a swipe at a giant like he did in OotP in this photo.

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/antuonchris/Harry%20Potter/Trailer%20Stills/Screenshot2010-06-28at72802PM.png

That swipe reminded me exactly of the swipes he did in OoTP running from the Death Eaters. That is how I knew it was spells.

Perhaps this has already been discussed (though it's so brief you might have missed it) but any guesses as to what's going on here?

http://yfrog.com/09vlcsnap2010062818h28m05p

If you go frame by frame on that you can see Voldemort appears to cast some powerful spell or something by throwing his hands down...it's pretty awesome.


I think he's breaking the protection spells around Hogwarts. This scene could be prior to that large orange sphere breaking.

Perhaps this has already been discussed (though it's so brief you might have missed it) but any guesses as to what's going on here?

http://yfrog.com/09vlcsnap2010062818h28m05p

If you go frame by frame on that you can see Voldemort appears to cast some powerful spell or something by throwing his hands down...it's pretty awesome.

Seems like's attacking the Hogwarts protection charms.

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/antuonchris/Harry%20Potter/Trailer%20Stills/Screenshot2010-06-28at72434PM.png
I wonder what this fireball could be? A spell? Someone spiraling to the ground on fire?

I've been watching the trailer and I've wondered the same thing about this pic. I love the shock and fear on their faces.
I think like others have said, it could be giants

We know why Harry goes into the ROR, but I think you can see the diadem in Harry's hands...maybe I'm just seeing things, but there is a white line above his hands...it's not the best shot, but:

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u175/missa_045/Diadem3.jpg

It does kind of look like he could be holding something!

Perhaps this has already been discussed (though it's so brief you might have missed it) but any guesses as to what's going on here?

http://yfrog.com/09vlcsnap2010062818h28m05p

If you go frame by frame on that you can see Voldemort appears to cast some powerful spell or something by throwing his hands down...it's pretty awesome.
Personally I think it's the moment he discovers the Locket horcrux to be missing. The outlines in the background remind me of the crystal formations in the cave, but I don't know.

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/antuonchris/Harry%20Potter/Trailer%20Stills/Screenshot2010-06-28at72434PM.png
I wonder what this fireball could be? A spell? Someone spiraling to the ground on fire?



Or it could possibly be the DragonFire from the bicycle. Remember the modifications Mr. Weasley made?

Perhaps this has already been discussed (though it's so brief you might have missed it) but any guesses as to what's going on here?

http://yfrog.com/09vlcsnap2010062818h28m05p

If you go frame by frame on that you can see Voldemort appears to cast some powerful spell or something by throwing his hands down...it's pretty awesome.

I think he is breaking Hogwarts defenses. You see Bellatrix there and I think behind him are the other death eaters. We also see a shot of Voldemort and all the deatheaters on a cliff kind of thing. Im thinking it could be at this moment.

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/antuonchris/Harry%20Potter/Trailer%20Stills/Screenshot2010-06-28at72434PM.png
I wonder what this fireball could be? A spell? Someone spiraling to the ground on fire?



It does kind of look like he could be holding something!

Haha Mugglecast people were joking saying that's Hedwig's death scene :lol:
But yeah looks like some spell of a sort.

I think he is breaking Hogwarts defenses. You see Bellatrix there and I think behind him are the other death eaters. We also see a shot of Voldemort and all the deatheaters on a cliff kind of thing. Im thinking it could be at this moment.

Yeah on 3rd (4th?) look, I think you're right. :tu:

Personally I think it's the moment he discovers the Locket horcrux to be missing. The outlines in the background remind me of the crystal formations in the cave, but I don't know.

Yeah, the ground he's standing on is strange looking...but it's not the cave, you can see Hogwarts in the distance. :)

That's the best frame of that shot I could get where you can most clearly see it. All the other frames are too smokey...

I think he is breaking Hogwarts defenses. You see Bellatrix there and I think behind him are the other death eaters. We also see a shot of Voldemort and all the deatheaters on a cliff kind of thing. Im thinking it could be at this moment.

Ah ok, I was thinking something like that. Well that's awesome, we actually get to see Voldemort use some powerful magic for once :cool:

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/antuonchris/Harry%20Potter/Trailer%20Stills/Screenshot2010-06-28at72434PM.png
I wonder what this fireball could be? A spell? Someone spiraling to the ground on fire?

It could be the bike or just the sidecar. If it still detaches.

Perhaps this has already been discussed (though it's so brief you might have missed it) but any guesses as to what's going on here?

http://yfrog.com/09vlcsnap2010062818h28m05p

If you go frame by frame on that you can see Voldemort appears to cast some powerful spell or something by throwing his hands down...it's pretty awesome.

This is what I think happens:

http://www.oclumencia.com.br/galeria/albums/125/normal_HP7-TRAILER1_%2868%29.jpg
Voldemort and Death Eaters overlook the castle from the mountains, preparing for battle. Right after Voldemort spoke to the people of Hogwarts.

http://www.oclumencia.com.br/galeria/albums/125/normal_HP7-TRAILER1_%28120%29.jpg
Voldemort shows his powers to his followers, now he possesses the Elder Wand.

http://www.oclumencia.com.br/galeria/albums/125/normal_HP7-TRAILER1_%28121%29.jpg
Which is revealed to be a huge attack on the protective enchantments that have been cast by the teachers in order to protect the castle for as long as possible.

http://www.oclumencia.com.br/galeria/albums/125/normal_HP7-TRAILER1_%2847%29.jpg
The protections break, turning into fire that comes down on Hogwarts.

It could be the bike or just the sidecar. If it still detaches.

I'm thinking the sidecar. We know it detaches because we've seen on-set pictures of Harry (or a double rather) in it before, and in one of the first shots of the trailer Harry is no longer in it, instead driving the bike for an unconscious Hagrid.

Sorry on the pics, I think I'm gonna create a slideshow...it'll take a bit more time, but should be worth it :)

I'm thinking the sidecar. We know it detaches because we've seen on-set pictures of Harry (or a double rather) in it before, and in one of the first shots of the trailer Harry is no longer in it, instead driving the bike for an unconscious Hagrid.

I thought sidecar at first too. It does look like the death eaters are following it though, so maybe it is the bike as it crashes. No. It looks like they are still in town. I am going with sidecar.

I know it's a joke, but it could be Hedwig. Though i think by that point it will just be Voldemort chasing Harry, so we are back to sidecar.


How come in the shots of the dragon we never see the trio on his back?

This is what I think happens:

(....)
Voldemort shows his powers to his followers, now he possesses the Elder Wand.


Bit of side step. In the book Voldemort never did truly possess the Elder Wand's power though, am I right? I thought the power transferred to Draco/ then Harry and Voldemort had the wand - a wand- but he knew something wasn't working with the wand like it should and that's why he killed Snape. Do you think this scene takes place after Snape's death?

I thought sidecar at first too. It does look like the death eaters are following it though, so maybe it is the bike as it crashes. No. It looks like they are still in town. I am going with sidecar.

I know it's a joke, but it could be Hedwig. Though i think by that point it will just be Voldemort chasing Harry, so we are back to sidecar.

In book canon Hedwig, while in her cage, is killed, and when the sidecar falls Harry Confringos it so it will explode. Do keep in mind that's book canon. I've heard rumors that during the Seven Potters sequence Hedwig will instead be flying alongside Harry instead of being in her cage.

In book canon Hedwig, while in her cage, is killed, and when the sidecar falls Harry Confringos it so it will explode. Do keep in mind that's book canon. I've heard rumors that during the Seven Potters sequence Hedwig will instead be flying alongside Harry instead of being in her cage.

Well in the MTV teaser we see Harry release Hedwig, so we know that he will not be in his cage. The rumor is that he will fly between Harry and a spell to save Harry's life and be killed that way instead of in the sidecar. That doesn't mean that the sidecar might not still detach and be on fire. It may be, we just don't know.

I still think they should have Hedwig get avada kedavra'd instead of catching on fire somehow.

Bit of side step. In the book Voldemort never did truly possess the Elder Wand's power though, am I right? I thought the power transferred to Draco/ then Harry and Voldemort had the wand - a wand- but he knew something wasn't working with the wand like it should and that's why he killed Snape. Do you think this scene takes place after Snape's death?

I am sorry which scene do you mean to take place after Voldemort's death. The final scene where they are on their knees, then yes. Anything where it is light out i would think would be after Snape's death.

Well in the MTV teaser we see Harry release Hedwig, so we know that he will not be in his cage. The rumor is that he will fly between Harry and a spell to save Harry's life and be killed that way instead of in the sidecar. That doesn't mean that the sidecar might not still detach and be on fire. It may be, we just don't know.

I still think they should have Hedwig get avada kedavra'd instead of catching on fire somehow.


Hedwig's a girl ;)

But yes, I think she'll die by taking a spell that was meant for Harry.

Well in the MTV teaser we see Harry release Hedwig, so we know that he will not be in his cage. The rumor is that he will fly between Harry and a spell to save Harry's life and be killed that way instead of in the sidecar. That doesn't mean that the sidecar might not still detach and be on fire. It may be, we just don't know.

I still think they should have Hedwig get avada kedavra'd instead of catching on fire somehow.

Yeah, we see Harry releasing Hedwig, but for all we know that could just be him letting her get exercise or something. Harry appears to be quite alone. None of the Order is present.

Yeah, we see Harry releasing Hedwig, but for all we know that could just be him letting her get exercise or something. Harry appears to be quite alone. None of the Order is present.

I don't think that likely. They are going to have to get things moving fairly quickly to fit everything in for Part 1. I don't think they are going to be showing Harry release Hedwig to get exercise.

Besides Harry is wearing the outfit that he is wearing in the seven potters scene and he has his rucksack in his hand, so this is right before the seven potters scene. The order may not have arrived yet, but this is still Harry releasing Hedwig right before the seven potter scene.

Hedwig's a girl ;)

That's right. I always forget.

Woah, I've only just had a chance to watch the trailer and it looks amazing! :yay: I'm a bit disappointed that they've included Harry's "death" scene because now I know I'll watch it so much I won't get upset when I do end up watching the film and I'm a little confused that Harry and Voldemort seem to be having the final battle in an empty courtyard :shrug:

Does anyone have any ideas when the scene where Voldemort is grabbing Harry's chin takes place? I thought at first it was at Godric's Hollow but after watching the trailer about 5 times it seems more like it's at the Battle of Hogwarts :hmm: I just don't understand how they're going to have Harry and Voldemort so close to each other so many times without Voldemort trying to kill him a billion times and failing.

I don't think that likely. They are going to have to get things moving fairly quickly to fit everything in for Part 1. I don't think they are going to be showing Harry release Hedwig to get exercise.

Besides Harry is wearing the outfit that he is wearing in the seven potters scene and he has his rucksack in his hand, so this is right before the seven potters scene. The order may not have arrived yet, but this is still Harry releasing Hedwig right before the seven potter scene.

Fair point, to be honest with you I was clutching at straws in a way. The thing that doesn't make sense is Hedwig appears to be flying away. If Harry hasn't gotten in the sidecar yet, where is she going? You don't think Harry is letting her get away before he goes to war, do you? That would make her sacrifice of coming back, so to speak, much more poignant.

Fair point, to be honest with you I was clutching at straws in a way. The thing that doesn't make sense is Hedwig appears to be flying away. If Harry hasn't gotten in the sidecar yet, where is she going? You don't think Harry is letting her get away before he goes to war, do you? That would make her sacrifice of coming back, so to speak, much more poignant.

I think that could make sense. That Harry would let her go to protect her and so we think she is safe and then all of the sudden she is back and gets killed just like that. They should still make it a sudden quick death.

Fair point, to be honest with you I was clutching at straws in a way. The thing that doesn't make sense is Hedwig appears to be flying away. If Harry hasn't gotten in the sidecar yet, where is she going? You don't think Harry is letting her get away before he goes to war, do you? That would make her sacrifice of coming back, so to speak, much more poignant.

Yes, he may actually be saying goodbye to her in that scene. He wants her to leave. Then she comes back in the Seven Potters scene and gets killed protecting Harry.

Does anyone have any ideas when the scene where Voldemort is grabbing Harry's chin takes place? I thought at first it was at Godric's Hollow but after watching the trailer about 5 times it seems more like it's at the Battle of Hogwarts :hmm: I just don't understand how they're going to have Harry and Voldemort so close to each other so many times without Voldemort trying to kill him a billion times and failing.

Yeah, i think this takes place after Harry 'dies' and they bring back his 'body'. Then Voldemort must at some point realize he is alive. Harry seems to be tied up. I have no idea how Harry would get out of this unless Voldemort gives Harry back his wand and says lets go at it sort of like he did in GoF.

i think the fire flying towards the ground is Harry and Hagrid after they use the Dragon Fire feature. we got on set photos of them on the groudn going through a tunnel. and you can see that the death eaters are trying to follow them in the trailer. so i think hagrid uses the dragon fire and it spirals towards the ground.

The trailer was good, but not as epic as I expected, mainly because of the annoying "epic" music. It seems like all trailers for blockbuster movies feature this epic music nowadays. :whistle: I think the HBP trailers were better...one of them actually gave me goosebumps. They contained the right balance of plot exposition and mind-blowing sequences.

It annoys me that they are revealing so much from part 2. Is part one really that boring? I frankly don't feel excited for it at the moment, but I really want to see the ending right away.

Why the heck do they show us the forest scene and the final confrontation between Harry and Voldemort? :grumble: Many non-readers can easily figure out that Harry will somehow survive the AK curse in the forest again because they haven't seen certain clips from the trailer earlier in the movie.

The way Voldemort hisses "Harry Potter" sounds...odd. I don't know how else to describe it. The delivery of "come to die" sounds like he feels pity for Harry and assures him that he will do it quickly so he won't feel any pain. Imo, he should be mocking him, not pitying him. Yates' inanimated portrayal of this evil psychopath is just plain boring compared to Newell's enigmatic and lively approach of Voldemort in GoF. It's like Yates is making the character appear more human than he is while at the same time putting cringe-worthy lines like "only I can live forever" (only saved by Fiennes' perfect delivery) into his mouth. At least the Twilight fans might enjoy it and feel the urge to scream out: "NOO, you are definitely not the only one!" :lol:

I've noticed that all over the internet; youtube comments, IMDB (even the twilight boards!), etc everyone is going crazy over this trailer saying HP is the most epic and greatest film franchise of our time, which is pretty awesome!

But does anyone like me feel where were these people a week ago, or months ago or a year or years ago? It seems like they suddenly saw a cool trailer and now they are all Potter fans, while we've all been here all the time, through the good and the bad, we stuck with the Potter franchise.

I'm starting to realize how superficial movie fans are, I guess. These are the same people who thought Lord of the Rings was gods gift to man in 02/03 but have since moved on.

In the end, it's the true fans who have been there with their franchise through thick and thin and will stay with it even after it's all over because for us, it's more than just a cool fun awesome trailer, it's the closure of something that has defined us in some way for a substantial part of our lives for a reason. It's more than just a movie for us. When we hear that epic music playing in the trailer, it doesn't just make us interested in the film, it fits in some way to illustrate how deep and epic this was for us all along.

What I'm saying is...enjoy the hype but don't put too much value in it. It won't last. What will last is the true fandom, the people on here who have stood with the franchise even when they didn't absolutely love every single thing about these movies, even if they absolutely hated something about the movies, or hated many things about it, or an awful decision by WB that made us loath Alan Horn, or a decision they made that made us love WB. Our love for HP endured despite the ups and downs. This amazing trailer is our moment to reflect and anticipate on the end of a wonderful journey that took us away from the troubles of the world and our lives and provided us with the experience of a lifetime. It's more than just epic music and cool flashes in a trailer for us.

I don't think you can denounce people as not being true potter fans just because they don't post on forums daily. So please be careful.

The way Voldemort hisses "Harry Potter" sounds...odd. I don't know how else to describe it. The delivery of "come to die" sounds like he feels pity for Harry and assures him that he will do it quickly so he won't feel any pain. Imo, he should be mocking him, not pitying him. Yates' inanimated portrayal of this evil psychopath is just plain boring compared to Newell's enigmatic and lively approach of Voldemort in GoF. It's like Yates is making the character appear more human than he is while at the same time putting cringe-worthy lines like "only I can live forever" (only saved by Fiennes' perfect delivery) into his mouth. At least the Twilight fans might enjoy it and feel the urge to scream out: "NOO, you are definitely not the only one!" :lol:

These are acting choices of the great Ralph Fiennes, not Newell or Yates. They are the directors, yes, but Ralph is the one portraying the character.

Also, Yates does not write the lines. That's the screenwriter. David is the director. Steve Kloves is the screenwriter.

MasterOfDeath, I understand how you feel. I'm not saying people who don't post at Chamber of Secrets aren't true fans, that would be ridiculous. What I am saying is we were psyched about Deathly Hallows in summer 2007, not summer 2010. ;) We've been excited for the movie ever since then, after we read the book. I can understand why you feel a little weird when a trailer comes out and everyone starts raving about it.

I don't think you can denounce people as not being true potter fans just because they don't post on forums daily. So please be careful.

I never said that. These people do post on forums daily but all they ever said was how dorky and stupid Potter was, etc . :lol: or just didn't care at all. Now suddenly a trailer comes out and they are all Potter fans..This has nothing to do with posting on forums, but about remaining fans all along and not just jumping on a franchise when it becomes cool and popular and seems awesome.

Just don't make assumptions about people period.

Re: the "fire trail" and whether it's Hedwig, the sidecar or the motorcycle:

I think a scenario like this would be likely -

Harry releases Hedwig outside Privet Drive (ordering her to get to the Burrow? Tells her to leave completely (thus saying goodbye to his childhood)? That we don't know till the movie is out).

Harry leaves with the Order and gets attacked by the Death Eaters, Hedwig comes back and gets herself between Harry and an AK Curse, to save his life. The AK'ed Hedwig falls in Harry's lap while he still sits in the sidecar.

As the attack intensifies, Harry jumps on the bike and Confringo's the sidecar so the sidecar + Hedwig + the Firebolt? spirals down the ground while on fire...

Just my theory, but still a plausible one.

Re: the "fire trail" and whether it's Hedwig, the sidecar or the motorcycle:

I think a scenario like this would be likely -

Harry releases Hedwig outside Privet Drive (ordering her to get to the Burrow? Tells her to leave completely (thus saying goodbye to his childhood)? That we don't know till the movie is out).

Harry leaves with the Order and gets attacked by the Death Eaters, Hedwig comes back and gets herself between Harry and an AK Curse, to save his life. The AK'ed Hedwig falls in Harry's lap while he still sits in the sidecar.

As the attack intensifies, Harry jumps on the bike and Confringo's the sidecar so the sidecar + Hedwig + the Firebolt? spirals down the ground while on fire...

Just my theory, but still a plausible one.

It's definetely the Dragon fire that causes them to accelerate really bad ... I know, it should've been purple, but changes are made, even after the screenplay

These are acting choices of the great Ralph Fiennes, not Newell or Yates. They are the directors, yes, but Ralph is the one portraying the character.

Also, Yates does not write the lines. That's the screenwriter. David is the director. Steve Kloves is the screenwriter.

Sure, Ralph is the one portraying the character, but Yates gives directions to him and creates the atmosphere of the scene. And I do know that Kloves is the screenwriter, but mentioning it didn't fit into the context.

ETA: Something not in the trailer, but I think needs to be addressed. What do you think of Lucius possibly checking on Harry instead of Narcissa? Narcissa never met Harry in the movies, so it would be sort of odd. And Lucius and Harry have had MANY scenes in the movies.

:no: No. I think it makes more sense for it to be Narcissa like in the book. In HBP we see that she is so concerned about her son that she asks Snape to make the Unbreakable Vow. In the forest she shows this same concern. We never see Lucius show that kind of concern but we do see it from Narcissa. It would be more emotional with Narcissa because we know that Draco's safety has always been her #1 priority.

So we still don't have the poster. Does that seem odd to anyone else?

Why the heck do they show us the forest scene and the final confrontation between Harry and Voldemort? :grumble: Many non-readers can easily figure out that Harry will somehow survive the AK curse in the forest again because they haven't seen certain clips from the trailer earlier in the movie.

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that most non-readers are aware that Harry Potter doesn't die in the last book/film. By now the secret is out that he lived through it all. The mystery for most will be not IF he survives but HOW (or as Voldmeort put it- Why?). :) So I don't think this spoils anything for anyone. If anything it will intrique them more. Most non-readers will look at this and think, "Hmmm I wonder how he got away from that?"

:no: No. I think it makes more sense for it to be Narcissa like in the book. In HBP we see that she is so concerned about her son that she asks Snape to make the Unbreakable Vow. In the forest she shows this same concern. We never see Lucius show that kind of concern but we do see it from Narcissa. It would be more emotional with Narcissa because we know that Draco's safety has always been her #1 priority.

I got this feeling it is Lucius, mainly because of the comments that were made by Isaacs that a lot of his filming was cut do to a decision in how his character's arc should end.

I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that most non-readers are aware that Harry Potter doesn't die in the last book/film. By now the secret is out that he lived through it all.

How can they be so sure? I was convinced he would die after reading the Prince's tale.

Sure, Ralph is the one portraying the character, but Yates gives directions to him and creates the atmosphere of the scene. And I do know that Kloves is the screenwriter, but mentioning it didn't fit into the sentence.

Ralph is an accomplished enough actor, as are Alan Rickman and Jim Broadbent, that I am sure they are given a certain amount of free reign when portraying their characters.

Even if Kloves name "didn't fit into the sentence", that doesn't give you the right to blame Yates for something he has nothing to do with.

Noldus, I do understand what you're saying about Voldemort's voice. I don't like it that much either And he does seem like an old man in this trailer..and kinda chubby... It does sound kinda cheesy and his face looks cheesy when he sees Harry Potter walking to him in the forest. I almost expect to hear him say, "Harry Potter, MY SON has come back to me!" or something. :rotfl: He just looks and sounds so grandfatherly...Though his scream of AVADA KADAVRA saves the scene! That was breathtakingly AMAZING!!

Oh and no, it's not true that everyone knows Harry lives. Only book fans or people who are really, insanely interested in Potter but do not want to read the books. Casual movie fans which are the majority have no idea what happens and WB should keep them unspoiled, IMO. The saving grace of the trailer is that it does kinda look like Harry dodges the spell and moves to the side so maybe it will be kept ambiguous for them.

How can they be so sure? I was convinced he would die after reading the Prince's tale. When we all read the book we didn't have that but today's audiences do.

It's just a matter of audience's media awareness and "sophistication," IMO. Movie audiences have had a lot more time to digest the buzz, rumors and press around the series since the last book. The more time that goes on between the time the book came out and the time they aactually see the movie, the more likely they are to see something, hear something about the plot (i.e. Snape kills Dumbledore!) and most audiences will have heard something - or at least NOT heard anything about Harry Potter dying in the last book - to put it together. If they're remotely curioius they can find an answer online or ask a friend. If they don't want to be spoiled- they won't look for it and will have to bury their head in the sand for the next few months. :lol:

But I think most audiences are going to assume by default that he didn't die anyway. This trailer assumes this fact and plays off of it to intrigue the more likely audience awareness.

Noldus. The saving grace of the trailer is that it does kinda look like Harry dodges the spell and moves to the side so maybe it will be kept ambiguous for them.

This is true also. The trailer doesn't really give away that he (almost) died anyway. Those who assume he lived- or um- didn't get AKed directly won't expect it will still be surprised. It works both ways, IMO.

How can they be so sure? I was convinced he would die after reading the Prince's tale.
I think what Bscorp is saying (and I agree) is that HP is such a huge franchise. People are aware, even if they didn't read the books, that Harry lives. The DH book has been out for 3 years now and I think most people realize that Harry couldn't have died. :)

Imo, it doesn't bother me one bit that the Forest scene is in the trailer. I don't think my non-book reading husband knew what the heck was going on it that scene. But, I do think most people know that at some point, Harry and Voldemort will have to face each other, so I don't see it as a spoiler.

But people who are only casually interested in HP through the movies don't pay attention to all the media hype and things like that. They are focused on their own lives and more immediate interests. You can't assume everyone knows he doesn't die.

Now, they might not expect him to die before seeing the movie but after the Prince's Tale where Dumbledore tells Snape Harry has to die, they should genuinely believe Harry will die.

Now, they might not expect him to die before seeing the movie but after the Prince's Tale where Dumbledore tells Snape Harry has to die, they should genuinely believe Harry will die.

I still think the audience can be tricked into thinking this. If the emotions are right (music, especially), it should be easy to pull off.

Plus, not all movie-goers would have seen the trailer.

But people who are only casually interested in HP through the movies don't pay attention to all the media hype and things like that. They are focused on their own lives and interests. You can't assume everyone knows he doesn't die.

Now, they might not expect him to die before seeing the movie but after the Prince's Tale where Dumbledore tells Snape Harry has to die, they should genuinely believe Harry will die.

This. I also expect with the combined effect of the music, Dan's acting, and the spirits of James/Sirius/Lupin/Lily in the walk to the Forbidden Forest scene, Harry's death, in those moments, will seem like a reality to the audience.

I think what Bscorp is saying (and I agree) is that HP is such a huge franchise. People are aware, even if they didn't read the books, that Harry lives. The DH book has been out for 3 years now and I think most people realize that Harry couldn't have died. :)Not everyone - I have family members who don't know if he lives or dies - they know that it comes to some final battle, but they don't know the outcome.

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Yeah, exactly. Only people who happen to catch an edited down version on the news or people who go see Eclipse. Now, young teens who tend to live on the internet (like some of us :p) might know Harry won't die and they are the majority of people who will go see Eclipse. I guess I'm talking more about adult casual movie fans.

This is a lot of assuming in this theory. Personally, unless you are trying to study the trailer and have some knowledge of DH I am not sure how one can figure at where each part of the trailer comes in the context of the film.

This is a lot of assuming in this theory. Personally, unless you are trying to study the trailer and have some knowledge of DH I am not sure how one can figure at where each part of the trailer comes in the context of the film.

Yeah, good point. People don't generally study trailers. :lol: Besides it's over a year away until DH2, I'm sure they will have forgotten anyway...not to assume they will..just saying they MIGHT, by my own estimation.

Oh and no, it's not true that everyone knows Harry lives. Only book fans or people who are really, insanely interested in Potter but do not want to read the books. Casual movie fans which are the majority have no idea what happens and WB should keep them unspoiled, IMO. The saving grace of the trailer is that it does kinda look like Harry dodges the spell and moves to the side so maybe it will be kept ambiguous for them.

That's true. I have friends that have seen all the movies but they're not book readers and have no idea of what truly happens. Actually, many of them think he dies.

And I definitely think that the trailer showed too much for non-readers. I'm worried.

Ralph is an accomplished enough actor, as are Alan Rickman and Jim Broadbent, that I am sure they are given a certain amount of free reign when portraying their characters.
According to the actors themselves, they are indeed given a lot of freedom from Yates. Still, you must ask yourself why Voldemort's characterization changes so much from GoF to OotP. I believe the answer is that the new director interpreted the character quite differently.

Even if Kloves name "didn't fit into the sentence", that doesn't give you the right to blame Yates for something he has nothing to do with.
Yates told Kloves to cut many of the memory scenes in HBP, so I'm pretty sure he has something to do with it. Probably not the dialogue, but he is free to cut lines and such he doesn't like. But yeah, I have no right to blame Yates in this case, so I apologize for that.

Does anyone have any ideas when the scene where Voldemort is grabbing Harry's chin takes place? I thought at first it was at Godric's Hollow but after watching the trailer about 5 times it seems more like it's at the Battle of Hogwarts :hmm: I just don't understand how they're going to have Harry and Voldemort so close to each other so many times without Voldemort trying to kill him a billion times and failing.I'm glad I'm not the only one who questions this. It seems really strange to me for so many reasons.

just saying they MIGHT, by my own estimation.

I think that would just be a small proportion :)

As books fans I don't think we're qualified to say what casual moviegoers will and will not figure out. We know everything there is to know and therefore we can't make an accurate judgment. That's the way I see it at least.

According to the actors themselves, they are indeed given a lot of freedom from Yates. Still, you must ask yourself why Voldemort's characterization changes so much from GoF to OotP. I believe the answer is that the new director interpreted the character quite differently.

Not exactly sure how it has changed. It has evolved but that should be the case as Voldemort gets closer and closer to his ultimate goal.

According to the actors themselves, they are indeed given a lot of freedom from Yates. Still, you must ask yourself why Voldemort's characterization changes so much from GoF to OotP. I believe the answer is that the new director interpreted the character quite differently.


Yates told Kloves to cut many of the memory scenes in HBP, so I'm pretty sure he has something to do with it. Probably not the dialogue, but he is free to cut lines and such he doesn't like. But yeah, I have no right to blame Yates in this case, so I apologize for that.

I see what you meant now. Sorry for misunderstanding you and getting a little hostile. These are some really good observations you've made. I never considered that Voldemort's new characterization in OotP may have been Yates' influence. That's only a logical conclusion.

I got this feeling it is Lucius, mainly because of the comments that were made by Isaacs that a lot of his filming was cut do to a decision in how his character's arc should end.

I started thinking that too. I originally thought they were just gonna have him die (which I prefer to him being the one to lie to Voldemort).

Does anyone have any ideas when the scene where Voldemort is grabbing Harry's chin takes place? I thought at first it was at Godric's Hollow but after watching the trailer about 5 times it seems more like it's at the Battle of Hogwarts :hmm: I just don't understand how they're going to have Harry and Voldemort so close to each other so many times without Voldemort trying to kill him a billion times and failing.

I think this scene is something special Kloves and Yates have put together to really emphasize Harry's survival. This scene, IMO, is to target the utter disbelief and confusion Voldemort has about why Harry is still living. If you watch the scene closely, Voldemort appears to be searching Harry with incredible urgency, unable to understand how the curse did not kill him, AGAIN. During this scene, the lines come from canon, and I think, better illustrate the emotion behind the line "Why do you live?!"

So, if like we have thus far speculated, and the Final Confrontation is indeed extended to multiple scenes of Harry and Voldemort forcing each other around the castle, this will just be a sort of "up close and personal" part of their duel. I vision it that directly after this shot, Voldemort will release Harry and immediately fire the killing curse that will miss Harry, rubble will fall, and Harry will escape momentarily, and the duel recommences.

Just my take :p

I started thinking that too. I originally thought they were just gonna have him die (which I prefer to him being the one to lie to Voldemort).

I agree with your preference of keeping Narcissa as the one to lie to Voldemort. The way I see it, if Lucius becomes the one to lie to Voldemort, then what was the point in establishing the character of Narcissa Malfoy in HBP, other than to affirm that Draco indeed has a mommy :lol: I think Narcissa should remain the one to tell Voldemort that Harry is dead, whether we get more of a scope on her or not in DH through The Dark Lord Ascending or Malfoy Manor.

I think this scene is something special Kloves and Yates have put together to really emphasize Harry's survival. This scene, IMO, is to target the utter disbelief and confusion Voldemort has about why Harry is still living. If you watch the scene closely, Voldemort appears to be searching Harry with incredible urgency, unable to understand how the curse did not kill him, AGAIN. During this scene, the lines come from canon, and I think, better illustrate the emotion behind the line "Why do you live?!"

So, if like we have thus far speculated, and the Final Confrontation is indeed extended to multiple scenes of Harry and Voldemort forcing each other around the castle, this will just be a sort of "up close and personal" part of their duel. I vision it that directly after this shot, Voldemort will release Harry and immediately fire the killing curse that will miss Harry, rubble will fall, and Harry will escape momentarily, and the duel recommences.

Just my take :p

I really like the track you're on with this. Maybe what we see in the courtyard happens, and that's the AK you're talking about that "yet again" didn't kill him. The "Why do you still live?" scene somehow follows this, and Harry and Voldemort eventually end up in the Great Hall, surrounded by what's worth living for.

I really like the track you're on with this. Maybe what we see in the courtyard happens, and that's the AK you're talking about that "yet again" didn't kill him. The "Why do you still live?" scene somehow follows this, and Harry and Voldemort eventually end up in the Great Hall, surrounded by what's worth living for.

Originally the AK i was referring to was the one from the forest scene that actually appears to kill Harry. But I like how you further connected it so that the final confrontation will resolve, ultimately, in the Great Hall with all of the warriors and DE's watching. This, above all other things, is what I long to have perfect on-screen.

I agree with your preference of keeping Narcissa as the one to lie to Voldemort. The way I see it, if Lucius becomes the one to lie to Voldemort, then what was the point in establishing the character of Narcissa Malfoy in HBP, other than to affirm that Draco indeed has a mommy :lol: I think Narcissa should remain the one to tell Voldemort that Harry is dead, whether we get more of a scope on her or not in DH through The Dark Lord Ascending or Malfoy Manor.

She was necessary for the plot to move forward. It is exactly how Dobby and Sirius have been used.

Originally the AK i was referring to was the one from the forest scene that actually appears to kill Harry. But I like how you further connected it so that the final confrontation will resolve, ultimately, in the Great Hall with all of the warriors and DE's watching. This, above all other things, is what I long to have perfect on-screen.

Thanks, and that's what I think we will get. Heyman has said that the final duel was extended. This makes me think we get what's in the book, but more. After all, that's what extended means.

I am still in complete awe of the trailer, just like the rest of you. I love the fact that we got footage from BOTH parts. It was breathtaking. Everything looks so intense. I just know we will be crying buckets when all this ends.

1- the nagini scene surprised me- just like what some of you said. I never expected the background to be so colorful. I also expected it to be dark and dusty. Maybe they just did this for effect so the snake attack would be that much more surprising.

2- love the 7 potters

3- liked the dragon as well and gringotts

4- enjoyed the "wands" meeting between harry and voldemort- it was a nice throwback to goblet of fire.

5- very surprised they showed us part of the walk thru the forest. somehow I thought the confrontation between voldemort and harry there would be different- weren't the other death eaters all around voldemort at that time? I really liked Dan's expression though- fear mixed with grim resignation- it was perfect!

have to watch it again- so much to take in!

I agree with your preference of keeping Narcissa as the one to lie to Voldemort. The way I see it, if Lucius becomes the one to lie to Voldemort, then what was the point in establishing the character of Narcissa Malfoy in HBP, other than to affirm that Draco indeed has a mommy :lol: I think Narcissa should remain the one to tell Voldemort that Harry is dead, whether we get more of a scope on her or not in DH through The Dark Lord Ascending or Malfoy Manor.

It wouldn't bother me if they replaced Narcissa with Lucius in this scene. But I think if they did it would lose it's power. To me, that scene meant a lot, because Narcissa is a mother. Just like Lily who gave up her own life to protect her som, Narcissa is ready to risk all and do the same for hers. I think her love touched him and I think that's why he trusted her.

She was necessary for the plot to move forward. It is exactly how Dobby and Sirius have been used.

I wasn't literally asking what the point was :lol: ...it was sarcasm used to support my opinion that they should keep Narcissa as the one to check Harry and lie to Voldemort about his mortality, instead of having Lucius do it.

The reason I based my support on that point is that many people will argue that Lucius is a better option for that role simply because He and Harry of a past. But I really, for some reason, want to see Narcissa be the one to show her desperation to find Draco, to show the Dark Lord unfaithfulness is this incredible climactic moment.

Thanks, and that's what I think we will get. Heyman has said that the final duel was extended. This makes me think we get what's in the book, but more. After all, that's what extended means.
I am so so so hopeful that you are right and that we will get canon+much more! :rockon: But my biggest worry/confidence is the shot of the wands connecting. Originally, my mind thought right away "oh goodness, that's going to be the final connection before Voldemort is killed", but now I really think that since the trailer actually showed that to us this early, then there is no way that that will be the final spell/curse between Harry and Voldemort. Somehow, I think, the two will be driven straight backwards into the Great Hall where everyone will be waiting. Well, it'd be weird if they were just waiting, so I expect they will all still be battling, but somehow, after the DE's have returned to the mayhem, everyone will have been contained to the Great Hall.

Sorry guys, I think I've given up on the screencaps. For some reason after I uploaded them they're all out of order! :grumble: I could still link my gallery but there are so many other places that have 'em by now it seems kinda pointless. :shrug:

oh thats awesome!!! I love that line at the end Only i can live forever!!! This is by far the best trailer of the 6 Hp movies.

So we still don't have the poster. Does that seem odd to anyone else?

wondering the same thing. no news?

oh thats awesome!!! I love that line at the end Only i can live forever!!! This is by far the best trailer of the 6 Hp movies.

Actually I think it's 2nd best...that 3rd theatrical trailer for HBP was the best of the series, IMO. But yeah, really amazing trailer and up there with Inception for best of the year :cool:

wondering the same thing. no news?

Yeah I was curious about when we will see a movie poster as well. I really wish we could see one.

I am so so so hopeful that you are right and that we will get canon+much more! :rockon: But my biggest worry/confidence is the shot of the wands connecting. Originally, my mind thought right away "oh goodness, that's going to be the final connection before Voldemort is killed", but now I really think that since the trailer actually showed that to us this early, then there is no way that that will be the final spell/curse between Harry and Voldemort. Somehow, I think, the two will be driven straight backwards into the Great Hall where everyone will be waiting. Well, it'd be weird if they were just waiting, so I expect they will all still be battling, but somehow, after the DE's have returned to the mayhem, everyone will have been contained to the Great Hall.

Originally when I saw the trailer, I was a little disappointed. I saw this as the end of their battle and was disappointed it was not in the Great Hall. Otherwise how could everyone cheer and surround Harry with hugs when LV dies? (I remember that being in the book because he said he just wanted to get away and be with Ron and Hermione.)
I didn't know the battle was going to be extended. So now I am relieved and excited...I hope it's like you described. If not, I am sure it will still be awesome but I hope they did not take it too far away from the spirit of the book.

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This scene just looks awesome! You can see a kid on the floor on the left side. He's definitely gonna get trampled or is probably dead already.

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I love Hermione/Bellatrix's expression here! I can't wait to see the scenes when HBC plays Hermione.

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Dan's expression in this shot is perfect!

About the general audience and what they might think after watching this trailer: I think everything is so out of context that the relatively unspoiled won't really be able to figure out what is going on. Some might put things together, but there really isn't enough there for people to figure anything out besides the bare bones of what happens to Harry at the end. I mean, how many lines are actually even in this trailer? Four? So much of it relies on action and reaction shots that I think it gives people more than enough to get excited but not know what the whole movie is about. There isn't even a voice over that leads the audience to think a certain way.

About Voldemort's dialogue: I think Fiennes is going for artificial pity and concern for Harry in the forest scenes.

I agree with everything you said, Accio. The Dan shot was one of my favorite shots from the trailer, if not my favorite. He has finally accepted death and it's almost as if he's eager to see his parents again. That immediately came to my mind, even in the excitement of the first viewing.

I also agree completely with you, boushh. Great comments.

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This scene just looks awesome! You can see a kid on the floor on the left side. He's definitely gonna get trampled or is probably dead already.

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq341/antuonchris/Harry%20Potter/Trailer%20Stills/Screenshot2010-06-28at71832PM.png

I love Hermione/Bellatrix's expression here! I can't wait to see the scenes when HBC plays Hermione.

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Dan's expression in this shot is perfect!

Yes, I love Dan's expression here. It's spot on!

I really love the music that went with the trailer.

Couple of observations: I wonder if that image of Bellatiex isn't her throwing the knife at Dobby - not shooting a curse.
Bellatrix is definitely throwing her knife at Dobby. If you take a look real close at that frame, you can see that it is not a wand and is probably a knife.

Originally Posted by AccioHP View Post


This scene just looks awesome! You can see a kid on the floor on the left side. He's definitely gonna get trampled or is probably dead already.

That kid is definitely a student. Just look at his clothes.

I agree with everything you said, Accio. The Dan shot was one of my favorite shots from the trailer, if not my favorite. He has finally accepted death and it's almost as if he's eager to see his parents again. That immediately came to my mind, even in the excitement of the first viewing.

I thought that too during my first viewing! It's like there is a sort of peace that comes with his acceptance. Dan's expression is just subtle enough, and it yet worth a thousand words. I can just see Ginny and her fiery red hair flashing across the front of his mind in that shot.

Has there been any information on if we'll get to see Hermione stab the Horcrux in the Chamber of Secrets?

Dan closing his eyes there could also tie into HBP where he "closed his eyes" and Ginny kissed him. Helps visually reinforce that Harry is thinking of kissing Ginny just as he is killed, just like he was in the book, in a subtle way of-course.

About Voldemort's voice in the forest: Surely Voldemort is only whispering to add dramatic effect to the scene? I'm not sure how I would want his voice to sound here, but having him sound mocking or lively or engaging would be completely at odds with how he actually he feels, wouldn't it? I mean, at this point he's still rather uncertain and concerned/curious about what might happen.

As to the fact that Yates adds new dimensions to the character, this seems only reasonable to me. Voldemort actually evolves during the series and in Deathly Hallows he shows a range of different emotions, some of which are far removed from the confidence and power he has when he is in supreme control. When he is looking down at Hogwarts with his Death Eathers in the trailer he seems cruel and confident, but doubts about his supremacy as far as Harry Potter is concerned will start to develop in the course of the battle.

The trailer had me thinking about something completely different, though. Judging from the fact that we probably get to see Luna be taken by Death Eathers from the Hogwarts express, will the films be likely to show even other scenes with Luna and Neville which in the book are only told about after the fact? Such as scenes from the opening of Hogwarts for instance? Luna was featured quite a bit in both film OoTP and HBP and Neville's role in OoTP is also substantial enough, so it would make sense that their roles in DH would be expanded on.

I'm also a bit curious about what will happen to Tonks and Lupin. They haven't been used a lot lately and so much other material will need to be covered in the last two films, so I don't expect very much, except for the 7 Potters chase and some battle scenes and a few brief shots from the wedding. But a part of me hopes for some more, at least for Lupin. How much do you guys think that Lupin and Tonks are likely to be featured in DH?

Has there been any information on if we'll get to see Hermione stab the Horcrux in the Chamber of Secrets?

It has been confirmed there was a set for the Chamber of Secrets used. That can only mean one thing.

one thing that worries me is No invisibility cloak!!! they used it in the book in the cafe scene and Gringotts but in the trailer it doesnt look like it will be used

It has been confirmed there was a set for the Chamber of Secrets used. That can only mean one thing.

Yeah, I guess so. And I just saw on IMDB (someone said this) that the Hermione/Ron kiss has apparently been moved there. Actually I like the sound of that.

... actually I like the sound of the Ron/Hermione kiss anywhere. As long as I see it. :lol:

Actually I think it's 2nd best...that 3rd theatrical trailer for HBP was the best of the series, IMO. But yeah, really amazing trailer and up there with Inception for best of the year :cool:
Which one was the 3rd HBP trailer?

one thing that worries me is No invisibility cloak!!! they used it in the book in the cafe scene and Gringotts but in the trailer it doesnt look like it will be used

Harry takes the cloak off during both of those scenes, and that's probably the reason we don't see it in the trailer. It could be cut from the cafe attack, but there's no way Harry can walk into Gringott's when he's "Undesirable Number 1". And I'm sure the filmmakers will want to feature the cloak numerous times since it is one of the hallows.

I think the cloak will be used during the Gringotts scene also. When the trio disapparated from the hill at Shell Cottage Harry was the only one not disguised.

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After re-watching the trailer a numerous times, I noticed in the scene with Harry and Nagini...that Harry is wearing the locket horcrux and it looks so different than the fake one, rounder, more golden and seemingly ornate.


It wouldn't bother me if they replaced Narcissa with Lucius in this scene. But I think if they did it would lose it's power. To me, that scene meant a lot, because Narcissa is a mother. Just like Lily who gave up her own life to protect her som, Narcissa is ready to risk all and do the same for hers. I think her love touched him and I think that's why he trusted her.

Shaun...I feel the same way about Narcissa being the one to go against Voldemort...all because of her son. There is nothing like a bond between most mothers and their children.


Also it's been mentioned about Harry's possible thoughts when he closes his eyes preparing for Voldemort's AK...I can't help but think that he may be thinking of his mother, when he asks her if it hurts to die. Of course this is only speculation on my part because I don't know if that is even in the movie.

In regards to the location of the final duel i am actually thinking the opposite to what everyone else has suggsted. We know Bellatrix dies in the Great Hall so I get the impression that everyone goes in there like the book and after she dies and Harry appears, Harry draws Voldemort out of the hall and away from all the students. It would explain why there is no one around. Also to me it has to be the end there as there seems to be no Death Eaters around Voldemort as well as no students.

Also about Voldemort's whispery voice I actually love it like that. To me it seems so evil as he is carefully considering what he says.

Are we due to get the lego footage soon as well?

no apparently when you buy the lego harry potter1-4 there,s something there that says you can view the dh footage on the website on july 7th

So I just realized, the way Ron is looking up from the ground with the sword in the trailer, that has to be a very large image of RiddleHermione and RiddleHarry. Oh wow, I cannot WAIT to see this scene. So happy it is in the first movie.

I think he is breaking Hogwarts defenses. You see Bellatrix there and I think behind him are the other death eaters. We also see a shot of Voldemort and all the deatheaters on a cliff kind of thing. Im thinking it could be at this moment.Yeah and if you look close enough you can clearly see the castle. So I'd agree.

Another question: Do you think they are going to bring up S.P.E.W in Deathly Hallows and it becomes a conversation piece during the camping scenes? It could be a good plot point and they could still use that in the Ron/Hermione pre-kiss conversation.

Another question: Do you think they are going to bring up S.P.E.W in Deathly Hallows and it becomes a conversation piece during the camping scenes? It could be a good plot point and they could still use that in the Ron/Hermione pre-kiss conversation.
I doubt it. If they were going to bring up SPEW it owuld have been in GoF. It wouldn't exactly make sense now with no prior mention.

I doubt it. If they were going to bring up SPEW it owuld have been in GoF. It wouldn't exactly make sense now with no prior mention.

I agree. The movie makers missed way too many opportunities to mention S.P.E.W. Now I wonder how the Ron/Hermione kiss is gonna be. As long as it's Hermione who runs to kiss Ron and not the other way around I'll be happy.

I sort of love this shot.

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PS. Who is this again chasing Ron at the Ministry?

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^ i didnt even see that in the trailer ahha

I sort of love this shot.

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I like it too, I guess because I know what's about to happen and I can tell it'll be a great, tense shot.

I'm pretty sure that's Yaxley chasing Ron in the ministry.

Dan closing his eyes there could also tie into HBP where he "closed his eyes" and Ginny kissed him. Helps visually reinforce that Harry is thinking of kissing Ginny just as he is killed, just like he was in the book, in a subtle way of-course.

That is also what he thinks as he welcomes death, the touch of Ginny´s lips to his. Of course only we know that , but it works perfectly for us fans. I love that clip.

I'm pretty sure that's Yaxley chasing Ron in the ministry.

Yes, thank you. I couldn't remember the name.

9th Wonder has requested I post the link to the gallery anyways cause apparently my caps are better quality...so here it is-

http://profile.imageshack.us/user/LCbaseball22

Please excuse the duplicates. This site has been giving me all sorts of problems and one thing it's done is duplicate random images, I have no freaking clue why...but there should only be 269 images, not 318 :relax: However, they do seem to be in order now at least...

EDIT:

You can just start with this page and go through 1 by 1, but expand first- http://img691.imageshack.us/f/vlcsnap2010062911h54m17.png/

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After re-watching the trailer a numerous times, I noticed in the scene with Harry and Nagini...that Harry is wearing the locket horcrux and it looks so different than the fake one, rounder, more golden and seemingly ornate.


dream_silently once said that the locket would be different than the fake and I also seem to remember him saying a description along these lines. Wow.

And I don't think that's Yaxley at the Ministry. This is Yaxley:

http://www.markhamfroggattandirwin.com/markhamfroggatt/wp-content/uploads/actorimages/Peter-Mullan.jpg

dream_silently once said that the locket would be different than the fake and I also seem to remember him saying a description along these lines. Wow.

Except for the fact that the locket is not different. The fake locket and the real locket look exactly the same to me.

Originally Posted by iamwood View Post
I am so so so hopeful that you are right and that we will get canon+much more! But my biggest worry/confidence is the shot of the wands connecting. Originally, my mind thought right away "oh goodness, that's going to be the final connection before Voldemort is killed", but now I really think that since the trailer actually showed that to us this early, then there is no way that that will be the final spell/curse between Harry and Voldemort. Somehow, I think, the two will be driven straight backwards into the Great Hall where everyone will be waiting. Well, it'd be weird if they were just waiting, so I expect they will all still be battling, but somehow, after the DE's have returned to the mayhem, everyone will have been contained to the Great Hall.

What still intrigues me is why are the wands connecting. This is not the phoenix wand, its the elder wand , so why is there a connection?
Is it just the spells colinding? the scene is brief but apparently the spells connect.