TRIALNERROR December 5th, 2010, 8:37 pm Can there be anything more moving than the Death of Dobby? Can you really recall the epitaph " Here lies Dobby: a Free Elf", and not feel a lump in your throat. I can't, never. It affected me deeply in the book, and the film played it out to perfection. But why exactly is Dobby so, well, affecting? I think JKR consciously devised a character we were bound to love, but she was never in any doubt herself about how he would end. She could'nt very well kill off Harry, or indeed any of The Trio, so she serves us a perfect invention: a character who, as far as the narrative goes is absolutely dispensible, yet who will take a part of the reader with him when his time comes. Somehow I feel for Dobby what I feel for Gollum in LOTR: he is the only character in the whole series who actually brings us into sharp contact with tragedy.
SnakeSinister December 6th, 2010, 12:56 am I like Dobby but I was more moved by the trio reuniting after Ron's return. I like how Hermione was walking between the both of them trying to get her wand after hitting Ron with his bags. I just really enjoyed that moment with them. Yes, poor Dobby it is sad....I was more sad for Hedwig though, that was awful. :(
Green_Arrow December 6th, 2010, 1:10 am Comparing Dobby to Gollum is quite bizzare. Much as I love (LOVE LOVE LOVE) LotR, there is no way Gollum comes close to Dobby. It's a personal preference, but like you said, Dobby was portrayed in a light where you can't resist liking the character, whereas Gollum was more of a grey character, and I feel sorry for him, but in all honestly, when Gollum died, I didn't feel anything compared to Dobby's death.
Sorry for turning this into a HP/LotR comparison. Back on track...
ohsnapkid December 6th, 2010, 1:13 am I'm not particularly sure there was a moving scene, to be honest. If the film had done Dobby more justice - eliminated the random monologue and actually included his stone with the inscription - then the scene would've been a bit more emotionally resonant.
CharmedMom December 6th, 2010, 1:14 am In the books, both Hedwig and Dobby's death affected me greatly. Hedwig's death I had to stop and re-read in disbelief! Dobby's came as a shock and Harry's actions and the funeral scene made me cry.
However, for the movie, Dobby's death wasn't quite as affecting. It wasn't because I knew it was coming, but I think because we lost most of the funeral.
But, a very moving scene in the movie was Hermione's obliviate scene with her disappearing from the pictures. I was very glad this was added as a scene and not just Hermione telling Harry about it. It really worked well for the movie!
weasley9 December 6th, 2010, 1:20 am I'm not particularly sure there was a moving scene, to be honest. If the film had done Dobby more justice - eliminated the random monologue and actually included his stone with the inscription - then the scene would've been a bit more emotionally resonant.
You mean the "Dobby has no master! Dobby is a free elf and Dobby has come to save Harry Potter and his friends!"? Becuase that was in the book.
The tomb with the enscription is in the second part. We've already seen a shot of it in the MTV trailer. It'll most likely be at the very beginning of the second part.
Green_Arrow December 6th, 2010, 1:23 am In the books, both Hedwig and Dobby's death affected me greatly. Hedwig's death I had to stop and re-read in disbelief! Dobby's came as a shock and Harry's actions and the funeral scene made me cry.
I wondered whether every time JK received hate mail, she'd kill a character in the book.
:yuhup:
ohsnapkid December 6th, 2010, 1:26 am You mean the "Dobby has no master! Dobby is a free elf and Dobby has come to save Harry Potter and his friends!"? Becuase that was in the book.
The tomb with the enscription is in the second part. We've already seen a shot of it in the MTV trailer. It'll most likely be at the very beginning of the second part.
No, I meant his last words. And not including the inscription in DH1 sort of dilutes the emotional impact, don't you think?
phoenix88 December 6th, 2010, 2:43 am There are so many tearjerking moments. Dobby definitely had me tearing up. Harry looking into the cupboard under the stairs actually was moving too.
SiriusBlack101 December 6th, 2010, 3:33 am No, I meant his last words. And not including the inscription in DH1 sort of dilutes the emotional impact, don't you think?
I loved that they expanded Dobby's death to include a few more last words then simply "Harry Potter". I also appreciated it because it reminded me of Luna's friends wallpaper in her room that wasn't included in the film.
I absolutely agree with you about the missing headstone though. It appears that it will be in Part 2 at least, but it was set up so nicely in Part 1; when we didn't see the engraved headstone, I was very surprised considering they kept the "free elf" line in during Malfoy Manor.
Nev_Blunderhall December 6th, 2010, 3:39 am I think that the scene when Hermione obliviates the memory of her from her parents is one of the most touching, especially in light of the cafe scene when she goes to cast it again. There is the memory of the last time she used it. Together those scenes create a potent tension within Hermione that I got from the movie but not the book at all.
lil_snuffles December 6th, 2010, 3:47 am Dobby's death definitely brought me to tears :( I cried reading the book and I definitely cried during the movie. Also Harry's visit to his parent's graves was heart wrenching.
ghostwhisperer6 December 6th, 2010, 4:04 am I think the opening scene was very moving. When Hermione had to modify her parents' memories, and then the awkward and sad departure of the Dursleys that left Harry standing alone...
I was also really moved by the Godric's Hollow graveyard scene with Harry and Hermione looking down on James and Lily's graves... :( I think that was mostly moving though because I was thinking about how it's described in the book. And Daniel Radcliffe's performance in that scene was wonderful!!
Stoicananess December 6th, 2010, 5:20 am It's a close call for me between Hermione obliviating her parents and Ron's monologue about Hermione's voice bringing him back after he destroys the Horcrux.
Hermione's scene was just so incredibly sad. As an opening scene, it really drove home straight off the bat how much they all had to sacrifice. How much the whole wizarding world would have to sacrifice to fight for their freedom from Voldemort's reign.
And Ron's scene because that could have so easily gone the other way and been one of the cheesiest things to ever be said in the movies. Rupert's delivery was incredible, I thought.
Unrepentant December 6th, 2010, 4:37 pm Who believed a HP film would bring one to the verge of tears in a matter of seconds?
Hermione's obliviation scene had me pretty much from the frist frame. :'(
marcperrot December 6th, 2010, 8:13 pm The beginning scene where Hermione uses Obliviate on her parents was the most touching scene for me, too. Not only did it show what Herminone had to sacrifice, but the whole audience really understood how difficult something like that would be seeing the pictures changing around the room. Then to see her have to use it again in the diner was incredibly sad, because the audience knew the emotion attached to that spell.
DorrisTheClock December 6th, 2010, 8:23 pm Yes, I too agree with most, if not all, of you in saying Hermione wiping her parents memory of her at the start was a very touching scene. It showed some incredible acting, very powerful how she softly whispers 'obliviate' and has such a big impact. A packed cinema stunned into silence, if not, tears.
magic_is_might December 6th, 2010, 11:07 pm Definitely Hermione's obliviate scene :(
It's not the only one, but one of the ones that stood out to me.
yoshi2542 December 6th, 2010, 11:20 pm Close call between the Harry/Hermione dance scene, Hedwig's death and the shots of Harry looking through Umbridge's files on the dead Order members. Dobby's death didn't work for me at all.
Fury December 6th, 2010, 11:40 pm I agree with Hermione obliviating her parents' memories and disappearing from the portraits. Very emotional.
iambeffy89 December 6th, 2010, 11:49 pm I think it was definately Ron's speech upon returning. It was so emotional and excellently delivered. Definately my favourite and the most emotional scene for me!
MsBinns December 6th, 2010, 11:54 pm Hermione disappearing from her family pictures as the "Obliviate" score played in the background definitely moved me.
Harry looking at his toy soldiers in the cupboard under the stairs made me teary as I thought about how much these characters (and actors!) have grown up and matured.
Hedwig's screech and watching her fall to the ground. I know some people said they were underwhelmed by Dan's reaction, but to me just seeing her fly in to protect him, get buffeted away once, return with this triumphant music playing...only to let out that horrible screech and fall to earth...that just killed me! (but I always get weepy in movies where the animals die)
Dobby's death did not do it for me either, though it definitely did in the books.
fishorchips December 7th, 2010, 1:03 am Hermione's obliviate scene; does anymore need to be said? Brilliant, especially with it being part of the intro with the other scenes mingled around it.
Charity Burbage's death; this really gets me, especially considering that we haven't seen her before. The actress was immense here, as was Rickman. The "we're friends" line is perfect. She speaks in the book but not that exact line, a really great addition.
Hedwig's death; another great change from the book. Not that I don't like the way it happens in the book, which gives you an idea of how sudden and unpredictable death can be, but the film gives more weight to her death. Also removes the issue of Stan Shunpike/expelliarmus which would hav slowed things down even more and meant additional exposition.
Ron's departure; all of it was great, especially Hermione trying to remove the locket and Ron pushing her away, and her pleas for him to stay. In particular the last time she shouts his name, you hear the sound of him disapparating just after she shouts it and I really got the feeling that he'd just crossed the boundary of the enchantments and this was her final plea.
Ron's return; the music threatens to make it a little cheesy but Rupert's performance here is impeccable, as is Emma's reactions as Hermione which are just as important. I also thought the next bit in the tent served the purpose of lessening any feelings of cheesiness that anyone might be feeling with the way Ron and Harry joke about what Ron had said.
Dobby's death; well done Dan is pretty much all I can say. Can't be easy doing that with an animatronic doll.
writerliz88 December 7th, 2010, 1:43 am I thought Ron's leaving was pretty emotional, and what really got me was when he said he kept hearing the radio to not hear "Ginny, Fred, George, or Mom's" name. It proves that the Weasley's are a tight-knit family, something that hasn't been always apparent in the movies previously.
magic_is_might December 7th, 2010, 2:11 am I'll add Harry and Hermione's dance scene simply because I found it to be incredibly overwhelming and powerful to watch these two and think back to the very beginning of the series, when these guys were just kids.
And realize that they are still just kids who are caught up in a war that is emotionally and physically draining. And to see these two take a moment out and have a mere minute or two of fun is very powerful :(
In the beginning, Harry and Ron are at odds with Hermione in the first book since they found her incredibly annoying (and still so in the later books sometimes ;)).
Who would of thought that by locking a troll in the bathroom with her would eventually result in, IMHO, one of the best platonic (Harry/Hermione) and romantic (Ron/Hermione) relationships I've ever read or seen? This scene, I feel, exemplifies that.
This is why I find this scene a very moving scene.
marcperrot December 7th, 2010, 3:09 am I'll add Harry and Hermione's dance scene simply because I found it to be incredibly overwhelming and powerful to watch these two and think back to the very beginning of the series, when these guys were just kids.
And realize that they are still just kids who are caught up in a war that is emotionally and physically draining. And to see these two take a moment out and have a mere minute or two of fun is very powerful :(
That's exactly what I was thinking as I watched that scene. I didn't find it moving though, I just felt slightly nostalgic and had longing for them to have a little more fun and to make some progress so they could be done with the searching.
magic_is_might December 7th, 2010, 3:49 am That's exactly what I was thinking as I watched that scene. I didn't find it moving though, I just felt slightly nostalgic and had longing for them to have a little more fun and to make some progress so they could be done with the searching.
I definitely get nostalgic too :(
fishorchips December 10th, 2010, 9:27 pm Another one that probably won't be mentioned often is when Hagrid and Harry arrive at The Burrow. Hagrid is very rarely in a serious scene in the movies (and the books to be fair), and when the two of them landed and the camera focused on Hagrid I was expecting some inappropriate comedy dialogue or remark. But I was surprised by the silence, I really got the feeling of relief that they had made it but the dread that the rest of them might already be dead.
PotterGurl08 December 11th, 2010, 12:00 am Most moving scene-- Two come to mind for me.
I completely agree with Dobby's death being heart-wrenching. The movie made it very moving, and sooo sad, which I think was a great feat considering they only had this one film to re-introduce audiences to Dobby since he hadn't been seen since COS. In the book, Dobby's death was heart-breaking. Dobby was always there to help Harry. He always managed to come through for him in one way or another. And even though Harry could be a hot-head at times, his appreciation for Dobby was always obvious. Thus, when he died, it was so heart-breaking. But he went out as a hero.
Another touching scene for me was Harry at his parents' grave. The way he just stood there, so quietly, so still, almost expression-less except for the tears building in his eyes that he couldn't hold back. You just knew that finding his parents' grave and seeing it for the first time had affected him in a way he didn't even expect it would. He was just hit with the overwhelming longing for the parents he always wished were still with him; the knowledge that his life would have been so much different--so much better, easier, happier...had they lived.
scooby December 11th, 2010, 1:56 am Another touching scene for me was Harry at his parents' grave. The way he just stood there, so quietly, so still, almost expression-less except for the tears building in his eyes that he couldn't hold back. You just knew that finding his parents' grave and seeing it for the first time had affected him in a way he didn't even expect it would. He was just hit with the overwhelming longing for the parents he always wished were still with him; the knowledge that his life would have been so much different--so much better, easier, happier...had they lived.
Beautifully put. "Merry Christmas, Hermione." was the icing on the cake. Dan just was Harry in this scene. The whole atmosphere of Godric's Hollow was haunting and beautiful. I actually cried real tears - a first for me in a HP film!
I think the dance scene is deeply moving and powerful; it conveys and evokes so many emotions. Maybe it's the power of great music... They just got it so right; it felt like the most real scene in the series. I think it's a scene that will be treasured and will stand out as a series highlight in the future.
PotterGurl08 December 11th, 2010, 3:45 am Beautifully put. "Merry Christmas, Hermione." was the icing on the cake. Dan just was Harry in this scene. The whole atmosphere of Godric's Hollow was haunting and beautiful. I actually cried real tears - a first for me in a HP film!
I think the dance scene is deeply moving and powerful; it conveys and evokes so many emotions. Maybe it's the power of great music... They just got it so right; it felt like the most real scene in the series. I think it's a scene that will be treasured and will stand out as a series highlight in the future.
Bolded--Oh I so feel the same way about that scene. Just in light of the never-ending controversy over it, I was afraid to say so, lol!
I too thought it was a beautiful scene.
It's two heart-broken best friends who have remained loyal to each other and silently promised to be there for each other even though it feels like their world is crumbling down. And just for a moment, they try to forget about the sorrow, but reality hits and robs them of their brief moment of peace.
gator1834 December 11th, 2010, 11:38 pm Beautifully put. "Merry Christmas, Hermione." was the icing on the cake. Dan just was Harry in this scene. The whole atmosphere of Godric's Hollow was haunting and beautiful. I actually cried real tears - a first for me in a HP film!
I think the dance scene is deeply moving and powerful; it conveys and evokes so many emotions. Maybe it's the power of great music... They just got it so right; it felt like the most real scene in the series. I think it's a scene that will be treasured and will stand out as a series highlight in the future.
I completely agree, everything about the Godric's Hollow scene was awesome, they acted that so well and I loved, loved, loved the Merry Christmas line. In the movie Dobby's death was extremely sad, but I think visiting Jame's and Lily's graves was the most moving, as short as it was. You can just feel Harry's sadness, and I felt the way I did when reading it in the book. I just wish it would've been a little longer, although I don't really think it was too short, I just would have liked more time there.
Michimagus December 13th, 2010, 5:29 am Beautifully put. "Merry Christmas, Hermione." was the icing on the cake. Dan just was Harry in this scene. The whole atmosphere of Godric's Hollow was haunting and beautiful. I actually cried real tears - a first for me in a HP film!
I think the dance scene is deeply moving and powerful; it conveys and evokes so many emotions. Maybe it's the power of great music... They just got it so right; it felt like the most real scene in the series. I think it's a scene that will be treasured and will stand out as a series highlight in the future.
The most moving scene by far. Harry was so sad, the longing look on Dan expression is fantastic, just holding back tears and you can feel the knot in his throat when he says "Merry Christmas Hermione". Very powerful.
SopophorousBean December 13th, 2010, 1:00 pm I found the Obliviate scene so moving, from Hermione calling back to her mum with her voice breaking to the delivery of the word "Obliviate", and the photos with Hermione disappearing out of them was such a nice touch. So that one sticks in my mind. But Hegwig's death had me choked up, because I knew it was coming, and Dobby's death was where I actually started crying. That speech he gave as he lay in Harry's arms was what got me!
xhanax315 December 13th, 2010, 1:57 pm Dobby's death was the obvious one for me, I wasn't sure at first how they'd play it out, but everything about the scene was just perfect. Godric's Hollow also had me in tears.
giftedkid527 December 13th, 2010, 2:14 pm I found the Obliviate scene so moving, from Hermione calling back to her mum with her voice breaking to the delivery of the word "Obliviate", and the photos with Hermione disappearing out of them was such a nice touch. So that one sticks in my mind. But Hegwig's death had me choked up, because I knew it was coming, and Dobby's death was where I actually started crying. That speech he gave as he lay in Harry's arms was what got me!
I thought the first part was moving, but why did she disappear out of the photos?
gertiekeddle December 13th, 2010, 3:46 pm I thought the first part was moving, but why did she disappear out of the photos?That way the film makers showed what she actually did. From hearing her saying 'Oblivate' alone nobody had known (who hadn't read the books, though).
This scene - along with the one where this very memory re-appears in Hermione's mind when she changes the Death Eaters memory - belongs to the actually only few scenes which touched me in the HP films.
giftedkid527 December 13th, 2010, 3:57 pm I understand why the movie makers had her disappear, it just doesn't make sense logically. The scene annoyed me, even though it was touching.
N_Mado December 13th, 2010, 4:01 pm Beautifully put. "Merry Christmas, Hermione." was the icing on the cake. Dan just was Harry in this scene. The whole atmosphere of Godric's Hollow was haunting and beautiful. I actually cried real tears - a first for me in a HP film!
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Very true..
I think Hermione leaving her house and giving it one last look was great as well..:tu:
and hermione calling Ron after he leaves while Harry looking shocked was heart breaking :(
gertiekeddle December 13th, 2010, 4:11 pm I understand why the movie makers had her disappear, it just doesn't make sense logically. The scene annoyed me, even though it was touching.Ah, I see - sorry! This actually made sense to me, so I didn't realize.
If she never was a part of Mr and Mrs Grangers life, she is not on their photos anymore either. Just a simple trick to visualize JK's description, but also works logically to me. I've many scenes were I don't like the ideas of the movies so much (or maybe like the idea, but don't like the way it was edited), but like this one. :)
giftedkid527 December 13th, 2010, 4:13 pm The thing is, she still had been a part of their lives, they just didn't recall the events. Nothing changed, except their recollection fo the events.
MinervasCat December 13th, 2010, 4:17 pm The one that touched me most was Dobby's death, because it I was touched by in so much in the book. But, the scene with Hermoine and her parents, and the scene where Harry saw where his house had been were both thouching. And, then when he found his parents' graves. Up to then they'd just been people he'd heard others talk about. Seeing their tombstones must have made the real to him, and also emphasized the fact that he would never get to know them. It was touching.
gertiekeddle December 13th, 2010, 4:22 pm The thing is, she still had been a part of their lives, they just didn't recall the events. Nothing changed, except their recollection fo the events.I think I like it the other way better. The film makers adapted the idea of JK that 'the Grangers don't remember that they ever had a daughter'. To me it had been more difficult to explain (and actually illogical) if the Grangers had wondered every day who the kid in their family pictures is.
Another scene I found moving is actually happening the same time right at the beginning: Vernon Dursley of the movie actually got my pity for leaving his home. That's a change from book to movie, but one I find adequate.
giftedkid527 December 13th, 2010, 4:25 pm I think I like it the other way better. The film makers adapted the idea of JK that 'the Grangers don't remember that they ever had a daughter'. To me it had been more difficult to explain (and actually illogical) if the Grangers had wondered every day who the kid in their family pictures is.
Another scene I found moving is actually happening the same time right at the beginning: Vernon Dursley of the movie actually got my pity for leaving his home. That's a change from book to movie, but one I find adequate.
I agree that it fits better, it just doesn't make sense. It screws with my mind when the movie does things like that, since the books are so well written, and the movies are sloppily thrown together. A curse on the parents shouldn't affect the photos.
Pearl_Took December 13th, 2010, 4:32 pm I agree that it fits better, it just doesn't make sense. It screws with my mind when the movie does things like that, since the books are so well written, and the movies are sloppily thrown together. A curse on the parents shouldn't affect the photos.
Not wanting to sidetrack the thread, but alongside the 'mind-wiping' she performed on her parents, Hermione would also have had to remove every physical reminder of her presence from the family home. Although Rowling doesn't actually mention her doing this, it's not implausible to imagine. Well, the film doesn't have time to show all that. The simple but effective device of having her image disappear from the family photos got the point across brilliantly and succinctly. :tu:
And this, actually, is my own nomination for the Most Moving Scene. I found it very affecting, and effective. And I even teared up a tiny bit.
My other nominations would be the Silver Doe sequence (sigh) ... and Hermione post-torture. :upset:
giftedkid527 December 13th, 2010, 4:41 pm Like I said, it does fit well. It makes no sense, however, and is really quite annoying. Takes away my enjoyment of the film, somewhat. She couldn't even cast a fake spell on them first.
HarryH1993 December 13th, 2010, 4:41 pm Id say there were 2 scenes which were equally moving - Hermione uses obliviate to wiper her parents memories and of course, poor little Dobbys death. The music made Hermione's scene more moving though, the music gave me goosebumps!
I also thought Godrics Hollow was moving with James and Lilly's graves - touching moment.
Harry and Hermione's dance was also moving for me personally, beautiful scene!
Pearl_Took December 13th, 2010, 4:46 pm Like I said, it does fit well. It makes no sense, however, and is really quite annoying. Takes away my enjoyment of the film, somewhat. She couldn't even cast a fake spell on them first.
I'm sorry it didn't make sense to you, but it did to me. :) She's wiping their memories and removing her image from the photos, and it's all done with magic. I don't need to know which spell she used to also wipe her image from the photos, and neither, IMO, does the audience. :)
shakerwandmaker December 13th, 2010, 4:50 pm loved the dancing scene, but the most moving was Harry and Hermoine at Lily and James's grave.
giftedkid527 December 13th, 2010, 4:51 pm There's no sense in it. It's not about getting it or not getting it, the movie took a shortcut here, and it takes away from the legitimacy and experience of the film. While we know in our heads that she also destroyed everything that would've reminded them of her, not showing anything like that, but strongly implying that the spell itself took care of it, is lazy by the movie makers, and is another example of the film makers not taking the time to make the movies bulletproof, like the books.
gertiekeddle December 13th, 2010, 4:57 pm Since it makes sense for some members that the Oblivate spell changesmemories and structures (incl. pictures and - possibly - further room equipment), it doesn't make sense for others. I think we just have to agree to disagree here about what the spell actually achieves aka recognize that the film makers had their own interpretation of JK's words too. :)
SwedishSkinJer December 13th, 2010, 5:00 pm There's no sense in it. It's not about getting it or not getting it, the movie took a shortcut here, and it takes away from the legitimacy and experience of the film. While we know in our heads that she also destroyed everything that would've reminded them of her, not showing anything like that, but strongly implying that the spell itself took care of it, is lazy by the movie makers, and is another example of the film makers not taking the time to make the movies bulletproof, like the books.
Well, as much as I love the books, I have to disagree with you here: the books are certainly not bulletproof. J.K. has been particularly vague with the details about some of her spells and how they interact with magical constructs in the books, such as many of the portraits found in Hogwarts. I do not think that admitting these faults that I perceive makes me any less of a fan.
However, for the movie, I saw nothing wrong with the vanishing images as part of how Hermione cast the Obliviate spell and I'm almost certain that the majority of the audience did not analyze it as deeply as you apparently did.
giftedkid527 December 13th, 2010, 5:16 pm Since it makes sense for some members that the Oblivate spell changesmemories and structures (incl. pictures and - possibly - further room equipment), it doesn't make sense for others. I think we just have to agree to disagree here about what the spell actually achieves aka recognize that the film makers had their own interpretation of JK's words too. :)
Is there "canonical" proof that it changes structures? Or is this, like I said, an invention of the movie?
Well, as much as I love the books, I have to disagree with you here: the books are certainly not bulletproof. J.K. has been particularly vague with the details about some of her spells and how they interact with magical constructs in the books, such as many of the portraits found in Hogwarts. I do not think that admitting these faults that I perceive makes me any less of a fan.
However, for the movie, I saw nothing wrong with the vanishing images as part of how Hermione cast the Obliviate spell and I'm almost certain that the majority of the audience did not analyze it as deeply as you apparently did.
You don't find massive holes, however. Why does the memory charm affect the pictures? This makes absolutely no sense, and sacrifices the clarity of the books for a cinematic moment.
I suppose it has always been my observation, in life, that any fool can produce something that is good enough to pass muster on the big, obvious things. Maybe even master them. But it takes someone dedicated to their craft to master the little things, and thus those are the things most worthy of attention when sorting out whether, in this case, the film was well made or not. Time and time again, we find that the little things are ignored until they become big things, or just completely forgotten about. The mirror is a tragedy unto itself. They seriously couldn't spend 25 seconds for Sirius to give him the mirror in book 5? really?
Googlie December 13th, 2010, 5:28 pm Dobby's death was very moving in the book but it didn't have the same effect on me when I watched it. Not that I have any complaints about Dan's performance here though...
The two scenes that did move me are:
- Harry visiting his parents' grave in Godrics Hollow. This is one, I thought, was perfectly done right down to Hermione creating those flowers following which Harry is completely overwhelmed and thanks Hermione. I found this scene to be a lot more hard-hitting in the movie than it was in the book, and that doesn't happen too happen.
- Harry and Hermione's dance in the tent. The acting and the music and just the entire setup and execution... wow :) I've actually gotten addicted to "O Children" since I saw the movie.
Pearl_Took December 13th, 2010, 5:29 pm Is there "canonical" proof that it changes structures? Or is this, like I said, an invention of the movie?
Does it matter? :)
Why does the memory charm affect the pictures? This makes absolutely no sense, and sacrifices the clarity of the books for a cinematic moment.
All we know from the book is that Hermione mind-wiped her parents. The author gives us no further details about how she carried that out, or if the Order were involved in helping her do it (as surely would be likely) or about all the practicalities involved etc etc etc. For a very good reason ... Rowling simply doesn't want to bog her readers down with unnecessary detail.
As for the film ... believe me, the audience are not sitting there wondering which spells Hermione used. She's a witch. It all happens by magic. That really is all they need to know, for this scene, IMO.
And we are getting very off-topic.
Time and time again, we find that the little things are ignored until they become big things, or just completely forgotten about. The mirror is a tragedy unto itself. They seriously couldn't spend 25 seconds for Sirius to give him the mirror in book 5? really?
I think this discussion belongs in a different thread ...
Hufflepufflian December 13th, 2010, 6:31 pm Bringing back the discussion in the title :)...
There were quite a few bits in this film that really moved me. One was Harry and Hermione in Godric's Hollow. Just the silence, it was nice in a sad sort of way (:
And Dobby's death, partly because I adore dobby, partly because I was relieved the fimlmmakers, though not getting it down to every detail, definately had that same emotion there, and because it is the first ever film in which I have actually shed tears. (And Ive watched Boy in Striped Pajama's which is pretty heartbreaking)
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AurayaBlack December 16th, 2010, 11:06 pm Dobby! :'( He actually talked, which he doesn't in the book, and it just made it that much more moving for me, it brings tears to my eyes just thinking about it.
Phoenix903 December 18th, 2010, 8:19 pm I think the most moving scene was when Ron left, because the whole series is about Harry, Ron & Hermione's friendship, and it's broken. After the argument there is just a lot of shock and I think it's just really sad how they've all been driven apart by their hunt for the horcruxes, when they need to stick together. I think this scene really highlights their isolation and desperation.
ignisia December 18th, 2010, 8:27 pm Hermione wiping her parents' memories, with Charity second, and Hedwig coming in third.
I remember being somewhat sad during Dobby's death the first time, but the feeling didn't last to the second watching, the way it did for most of the other scenes. :hmm:
I thought the dance scene was very sweet. :D
Fawkesfan1 December 18th, 2010, 8:40 pm Hermione wiping her parents' memories, with Charity second, and Hedwig coming in third.
I remember being somewhat sad during Dobby's death the first time, but the feeling didn't last to the second watching, the way it did for most of the other scenes. :hmm:
I thought the dance scene was very sweet. :D
Yea that scene was really sad :(. And the scene with Charity was heartbreaking, since it seemed as if he (Snape) was friends with her -- that's how I viewed it anyways...
helodollyllama December 19th, 2010, 8:09 pm Any one of a bunch of scenes with Watson. The two obliviation scenes, playing piano with Ron, watching Ron leave, tying the scarf, the dance, Godric's Hollow, the Forest of Dean, the torture scene, her reaction to Dobby's death....Now that's magic.
714flame December 19th, 2010, 10:12 pm To me the death of Dobby, the Obliviation scene early on and the Harry/Hermione dance scene were all very moving.
AccioFirebolt20 December 27th, 2010, 10:54 pm The most emotional scenes of the last film, firstly would have to be Hermione placing a Memory Charm on her parents, and how photos of her in them disappeared. It's a shame that Hermione had to do such a thing, and it really shows you the gravity of the film and situation that the trio are in.
Definitely, Dobby's death. "A Free Elf". And he was in the end. But Harry acted that so well he really deserved an Oscar for the performance. Lol. (:
There wasn't really much made out of Moody's death, all they did was mention it but that wasn't as emotional as what I had thought.
Harry and Hermione going to see his parents grave at Godric's Hollow. I have lost my own parents and could relate to that scene quite well.
I am not really sure of any others, I am too frightened to see the film again because I didn't like the scenes with Nagini in them, so I will wait until it comes out on BluRay. (:
Apheka December 31st, 2010, 2:31 am Hermione removing her parents memories then having to repeat it on the deatheaters in the cafe. You could see her remembering her parents as she does the spell.
Dobby's death but I wish they had kept to the book and put socks on his feet and the woolly hat over his ears because he was a free elf and clothes made him.
Bella_Crucio_U December 31st, 2010, 3:15 am Like so many of you have said, Dobby's death was extremely touching. I think I cried more in the book but I did have tears streaming down my face during that scene in the film. I love Dobby's final words about friends and I think Dan's acting made that scene all the better. How he was squeezing Dobby's hand and crying. So sad! Really well done on that.
Another part that I started crying at was when Harry visited his parents' grave. Again, Dan's acting made it especially touching. I think I cried more during the movie than the book at that part.
The last one that stands out for me is Ron's departure. I definitely got teary when Harry and Ron had their fight. Hermione calling out for Ron multiple times got to me as well. Really emotional. That more than anything showed how hopeless the three of them were. They were falling apart and it was incredibly sad to see on screne.
Harry and Hermione's dance scene gets an honorable mention. Really well done.
LupinsHowl786 December 31st, 2010, 3:46 am Hermione ridding her parents memory is probably the most moving scene for me in DH 1. I loved every part of it. Her softly whispering 'obliviate', the tears in her eyes, and the pictures of her fading out. Never have I cried so much at the beginning of a Harry Potter movie. Brilliantly done.
I also really liked the Godric's Hollow scene. Hermione conjuring up the flowers for the grave made me cry and Harry just being at the grave site of his parents made me very emotional. One of the most touching scenes in the entire movie.
windoftheworld December 31st, 2010, 3:52 am For me, it was Hermione's obliviate scene, Hedwig's and Dobby's deaths, and the scene where Harry sifts through the files of the dead Order members. DH1 was so perfect, it was depressing. Each and every part of the movie struck a chord with the audience. You could tell that the cast and crew had given their all with DH1, and it played out very well on the screen.
Leslie33 December 31st, 2010, 4:20 am I found the part where Hermione obliviates her Parents really hard to watch. Watching her pictures disappear was hard to see. To me, it was similar to people describing their experiences with memory loss and Alzheimer's Disease.
Also, Dobby's death was hard to watch too. I found his reaction very similar to that of a small Child when they get hurt and reach out to you for help.
LyraLovegood December 31st, 2010, 5:01 am For me, it took my third viewing of the movie before I actually had to wipe a tear from my cheek a few times.
There were three moments in the movie for me to do this: first, when Hermione obliviated her parents. That was beautifully done and very moving.
Second, I shed a tear for George when he lost his ear. Not because he lost his ear, but because I know he's also going to lose Fred by the end of the final film.
And third, I cried with Hermione again when she was lying on the floor of Malfoy Manor with the word "Mudblood" carved into her arm.
I didn't cry for Hedwig or Dobby, as I thought I would. I think because Hedwig was so brave, it came out of nowhere when she flew at the Death Eater and took the AK. I felt more gratified that she went down fighting than dying in her cage, so while I felt the pain of loss I shed no tear at that moment.
For Dobby... well, I kind of feel like they hammed that scene up a bit. It was too cheesey for me to cry; he had too many lines, I thought. The first time I saw it I had SageRacer sitting right next to me and he was actually snickering about it because it was so melodramatic, like old silent movies where death scenes were drawn out for freaking ever. I was mad at him for snickering, but I agreed that the scene was no tear-jerker -- at least not for me.
JoAdams January 1st, 2011, 10:12 pm Too many emotional moments in the film:
-Hermione erasing her parents' memories/The Dursleys Departing: Emma Watson's acting was brilliant and the disappearing of Hermione from the photos was a very clever way to show what was going on. It was really emotional and I didn't expect it. This, combined with Petunia's devastating look in the car and Harry's figure standing alone in the middle of the road as the Dursleys departed was moving as well.
-Charity Burbage's death. How could a scene, including a character never seen before, be so incredibly emotional? Just seeing Charity's face tortured and bloodied and then her pleading to Snape got me. The whole meeting at Malfoy Manor was a chilling sequence and one of the best in the series, but this part was moving and I didn't expect it.
-Harry remembering Dumbledore's death and looking at his old room. It was nostalgic and moving. I loved the bit with the toy soldier. Colombus will be proud.
-George's injury. I don't know why, but it hit me. All this blood, the devastating look on the Weasleys' faces, his little funny joke in the end: everything was emotional. And I really don't want to see the massacre in Part II. It will be tragic.
-Hermione re-using 'Obliviate' in the Cafe. This reminded the audience of the opening scene at her home and it was moving as well. We didn't care about the Death Eater but Hermione's face was devastating and it devastated us as well.
-Harry-Runcorn looking at the files of the dead Order members in Umbridge's office.
-Ron's splinching. Hermione was so desperate, Harry didn't know what to do and Ron was suffering.
-Ron's departure. Well, the acting was top-notch and you get the sense that they are indeed falling apart.
-Harry and Hermione traveling: Hermione gazing at the river, tying the scarf in the forest, breaking down at the limestone pavements, Harry performing the protective spells while she's sitting silently on the edge of the cliff and Harry looking at the sun setting. This are probably the 2 most beautiful minutes in the entire series.
-Harry and Hermione's dance. Not exactly sad, but definitely emotionally powerful. Hermione is mourning for Ron's departure, Harry tries to cheer her up, they share a moment of true friendship but they eventually come back to reality and sadness returns. How much have they grown up? A lot, no doubt.
-Godric's Hollow. This is my favorite sequence in the series. From the haunting atmosphere of the village, the distant choir singing, the distant Christmas lights on the pub and the houses, the walk in the graveyard, Harry crying over his parents' graves, the walking to the Potters demolished house...it was an exceptional sequence. Exceptional.
-Forest of Dean. It starts with this lonely shot of Hermione picking water from the huge beautiful river, in the middle of a snow-covered forest. It continues with Hermione's speech about her parents and the short moment of despair as Harry tries to console her.
-The Silver Doe/Harry drowning. I am not a fan of the Locket destruction sequence that comes next, but this sequence was amazing. The doe walking slowly in between the dead trees, Harry diving in the waters and drowning as 'Ron Leaves' track is playing. Amazing.
-Hermione's torture/post-torture. Altogether this lasts only 1 minute but it was as effective as 'Obliviate' in the beginning of the film. Emma Watson's acting was spectacular and I want to say that the scene where Bellatrix's string of hair falls on Hermione's coat, panning to the word Mudblood on her forearm and then the close-up of her desperate face with tears falling was a scene that still haunts me. Beautiful.
-Dobby's death. Yes this is the first time I cried while watching a Harry Potter film. I don't know. The vast location of the sandy beach next to these beautifully melancholic cliffs, Hermione and Ron's despair, Harry's crying, Luna's sad appearance, the emotional score...everything was amazing, but what stood out was Dobby's little speech about friends. And his CGI was perfect.
Qalle January 2nd, 2011, 3:26 am Hedwigs death :( It happend so fast and unexpected. I was like, nooooooooo!
Try watching this without crying http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahzJAp0bE90
In memory of hedwig.
PrezLeefun January 2nd, 2011, 5:08 am 1) Hermione obliviating her parents. That was so sad tears were streaming down my face. I was distraught frankly.
2) Dobby dying. It was sad in the book (I had to stop reading frankly) and it was sad on film.
3) Ron leaving.... that always upset me.
4) The Death of Charity Burbage. Snape and Draco's faces when she was murdered showed how much neither of them wanted anything to do with that. Yet there they were forced to watch and allow it to happen.
5) Godric's Hollow. Harry+ his parents grave= sad as anything.
AccioFirebolt20 January 2nd, 2011, 10:34 am Speaking of moving scenes, I don't know if anyone here has seen this, but it has to be the most moving video tribute to the fallen in the Deathly Hallows book as well as some others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEg0_xmy9i4
I do apologise that it has to be in link form. Could anyone please tell me how you post Youtube videos on this website. I have seen other people do it, but I'm unsure myself.
GryffindorGirl5 January 2nd, 2011, 9:05 pm I cried when Hedwig died, dobby died and when Harry was looking in his old cupboard (sorry bad spelling)....all 3 scenes quite moving in my opinion. I felt quite emotional during that movie and have never cried more during a harry potter movie more than dh...and i almost lost it when i thought fred died...oh man...and when harry and hermione were looking at harry's parents headstones was quite sad... :(
AlDumblydorr January 2nd, 2011, 9:28 pm i agree with the guy on the first page who said something about how not including the grave description diluted the emotional effect of dobby's death. apart from dobby's death, here are a few that were moving:
hermione removing herself from her parents' memories was moving; it represented a great deal of personal sacrifice
seeing the dead order members' files was also moving...
at the beginning, when harry was looking around the house for the last time-he was leaving behind his house of 17 years. no matter how badly he was treated in that house, it was his childhood, and he was leaving childhood and school to become an adult. i think its called a "bildungsroman"... it was moving nonetheless to see him look inside the closet where he used to live.
i didn't find hedwig's death that emotional; she sort of flew in from nowhere and suddenly she was gone. it was much more emotional in the book because they went into detail about why harry was sad. in the films, hedwig has mainly served as a post-owl, and we don't really get a connection with her.
BorisKelpman January 18th, 2011, 3:54 pm Dobby's death was beautifully done. First of all, what struck me the most was the cinematography, with the camera seemingly following the choppy movements of the waves. I also did not mind that Dobby had more dialogue, because it was a touching line -- and it's not like they added more than, say, four lines at the most about how Dobby found Shell Cottage to be a beautiful place to die. Props to the animators as well, because Dobby's labored attempts to breathe struck a genuine heartstring for me.
I am curious to see if they will show more of the grave in Part II. There was a shot that I don't recall seeing in the final cut of the film that had Harry standing directly next to its finished construction.
in the films, hedwig has mainly served as a post-owl, and we don't really get a connection with her.
Hedwig's death stayed with me because I remembered the rather beautiful scene from the film adaptation of SS in which Harry releases the owl during winter and her flight transitions into the next season.
Lyndsy January 20th, 2011, 9:25 am Hermione casting the Obliviate spell to wipe her parents memories.
Also Harry and Hermione dancing in the tent. Finally Dobby's death :sad:
MC2456 January 21st, 2011, 6:34 am Obliviate was definitely the most moving scene. It was sad, and I bet if I was a regular person, I'd cry.
free_elf January 22nd, 2011, 1:28 am -Harry and Hermione traveling: Hermione gazing at the river, tying the scarf in the forest, breaking down at the limestone pavements, Harry performing the protective spells while she's sitting silently on the edge of the cliff and Harry looking at the sun setting. This are probably the 2 most beautiful minutes in the entire series.
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Yes!:agree:
I was surprised as I perused these pages that no one else had mentioned this bit! The bit where Hermione tries to hold back here tears after they've disapparated was the moment I went "Wow!" at Emma Watson's acting in this film. It seemed so genuine and real and was therefore so touching and heartbreaking. It's such an understated moment and I suppose so easy to overlook amongst all the drama but I love it!
Samuelcd January 22nd, 2011, 2:00 pm It was, of course, Dobby's death.
I mean, I've read all the books so I knew it was coming, but when he started saying "Dobby happy. Dobby with friends" or something along those lines, it was really sad. I didn't cry, I am not one to when it comes to films, but it was still a very sad scene.
1BellaLestrange January 30th, 2011, 5:27 am Charity Burbage's death (That whole scene), and after the attack(7 Harry's) with the Fred and George.
DA93 January 30th, 2011, 11:56 am The obliviate scene at the beginning was very moving.
The Godric's Hollow graveyard scene to, i just love those two scenes :tu:
ajna January 30th, 2011, 12:02 pm If I ask myself which scenes were most moving, I find myself finding the moments that stood out most for me. Obliviate. The dance scene. The scene in Umbridges office while disguised as Runcorn.
missjanepotter February 3rd, 2011, 6:35 pm I was crying at the very beginning of the film just for the fact that this was the first part of DH :sad: so I didnīt needed much moving scenes I guess :lol: but the scene with Hermioneīs parents was very sad, and at the end when Dobby dies , it was too much for me . When I left the theater I was a mess :shrug: loved the movie though.
scooby February 3rd, 2011, 8:26 pm Too many emotional moments in the film:
-Harry remembering Dumbledore's death and looking at his old room. It was nostalgic and moving. I loved the bit with the toy soldier. Colombus will be proud.
-Hermione re-using 'Obliviate' in the Cafe. This reminded the audience of the opening scene at her home and it was moving as well. We didn't care about the Death Eater but Hermione's face was devastating and it devastated us as well.
-Harry and Hermione traveling: Hermione gazing at the river, tying the scarf in the forest, breaking down at the limestone pavements, Harry performing the protective spells while she's sitting silently on the edge of the cliff and Harry looking at the sun setting. This are probably the 2 most beautiful minutes in the entire series.
-Godric's Hollow. This is my favorite sequence in the series. From the haunting atmosphere of the village, the distant choir singing, the distant Christmas lights on the pub and the houses, the walk in the graveyard, Harry crying over his parents' graves, the walking to the Potters demolished house...it was an exceptional sequence. Exceptional.
-Forest of Dean. It starts with this lonely shot of Hermione picking water from the huge beautiful river, in the middle of a snow-covered forest. It continues with Hermione's speech about her parents and the short moment of despair as Harry tries to console her.
I love these smaller moments that you've highlighted. :tu:
Completely agree with the bolded bit. It's one of my favourite sequences in the series, too. The atmosphere in those Godric's Hollow scenes was palpable. The stillness. What a bitterly sad way to spend Christmas. :( Makes you really thankful for your family and friends....
And I really think that Emma was responsible for a lot of the emotion in this film; she's really the film's emotional centre.
decarus February 3rd, 2011, 8:55 pm The scene where Hermione obliviates the death eaters in the cafe and then Harry and Hermione by his parent's grave.
theboywholived8 February 5th, 2011, 2:00 am There are so many tearjerking moments. Dobby definitely had me tearing up. Harry looking into the cupboard under the stairs actually was moving too.
I absolutely loveeeeed this part. What a beautiful moment. For me, this series represents having to grow up and leave behind a certain part of yourself in order to move forward and this moment illustrated that magnificently, even though it only lasted a few seconds.
ajna February 5th, 2011, 2:20 am Dobby was kind of handed to us, but the cupboard scene was for me, more inspired and poignant.
SirDobster February 5th, 2011, 5:14 am Lots of 'em, but today I'm remembering Fred touching George's face, looking sad. Then George makes the "holey" joke. :)
MissGranger1979 February 5th, 2011, 12:23 pm There's just so many!
They did the Dobby scene perfectly, it was really touching and both times I went I cried like a baby. I also thought Harry and Hermione's dance was really moving - Harry's obviously not the dancing kind (as we saw at the Yule Ball) but he does it anyway to try and cheer her up and it just shows how beautiful and strong their friendship has become over the course of the series.
I agree with everyone about the cupboard under the stairs moment aswell - it was like a huge dose of nostalgia, showing not only how far Harry as a character has come but how far the films have come since Dan was a tiny 11 year-old in PS and how much I've changed as a fan since I saw PS as a 7 year-old with my Year 3 class in 2001.
BorisKelpman February 6th, 2011, 5:39 am I found the close-up of Charity Burbage's dead face to be very moving, with a falling tear drying up under her eye.
A very good shot from Yates and Serra.
HuskyCrown February 24th, 2011, 1:33 am I ALMOST cried when Dobby died...and i was jolted when charity died...mainly because of snape and draco's face. They seem to regret it! I also liked ron's "like hell" in malfoy manor.
jimbobiker February 24th, 2011, 2:02 am Gotta agree with the majority of contributors, that Dobby's murder and subsequent burial was number one, followed closely by Hedwig's demise. This is true both, in the books and the movie.
m1k30d February 24th, 2011, 3:35 am Oh Bellatrix... Smh.
She tortures neville's parents: that's just evil
She kills Sirius: are you kidding... GET OUT!
She burns the weasley's house:Molly looks so sad... This chick needs to go!
She kills Dobby: SOMEONE KILL THIS EVIL WOMAN!!!:sad:
Queen_Princess February 24th, 2011, 7:41 pm A part that made me cry for whatever reason was when Ron left. I'm not exactly sure why I cried, but seeing the Trio broken up like that broke my heart :(
PrezLeefun February 24th, 2011, 8:11 pm A part that made me cry for whatever reason was when Ron left. I'm not exactly sure why I cried, but seeing the Trio broken up like that broke my heart :(
It made me cry in the book. I was very upset. I had to get control over myself before I could continue reading.
MsBinns February 24th, 2011, 9:48 pm When Ron leaves and the camera just stays on the door of the tent flapping and Harry standing there watching I always think of that line about how "something had broken" between Harry and Ron. Hermione crying after they apparate is pretty effective to, I think. The significance of that one tiny action is so huge, my heart just breaks for her.
God help me, every time I saw this movie in theaters I tear up when Hedwig comes back to protect Harry. You can hear a tiny variation of Hedwig's Theme start to play in the background for the briefest moment and my heart just soars. Even though it's a deviation from the book and I know what's coming, I always want to cheer and go "way to go Hedwig!" There's something about the way she just falls like a rag doll combined with that screech that gets me. I was way more teary at Hedwig's death than Dobby's.
The most MOVING part for me was definitely Harry at his parents' grave though. I thought Dan nailed this scene from the moment he looks into the cemetery and asks "do you think they'd be in there?".
adorey1 February 25th, 2011, 1:32 am this is gonna sound strange, but the most moving moment for me was when harry, disguised as runcorn finds all his friends files in umbridge's office.
the big red 'deceased' letters stamped across moody, dumbledore and sirius kinda tugged at my heartstrings a wee bit.
but it was the picture in hermione's file with her in her school uniform, laughing and holding her books that caused a lump in my throat.
it was just another reminder that their childhood and innocence is gone, that they can never return to that care-free life at hogwarts again.
Rookie_Angel February 25th, 2011, 3:41 am The dance scene was the one that really made me cry--it really resonated with me because as I watched it, it struck me for the first time ever in all the years of reading the books/watching the movies that my relationship with a dear male friend was very much like Harry and Hermione. (We will never be romantically involved, but we truly 'get' each other inside and out, we've been friends for the majority of our lives, and we'd go to war for each other when the chips were down), and that scene brought into sharp focus for me that a friendship like that as deep and important in its own way as a romance.
Hermione's obliviate scene was moving, too, though I don't think I quite cried. It was very touching, though. I guess I just assumed that either she was accomplished enough to do a silent "photo-editing" spell along with it, or that she quietly said an accompanying second spell out of 'our' hearing as the camera's eye moved in on the photos.
Ron's splinching, and how that event meant the loss of the sanctum of Grimmauld Place, also hit me pretty strongly.
Dobby and Hedwig were touching, too, but I was expecting those, almost waiting for them, so that lessened the impact a little. But Dobby's death hit my husband (who's only followed the movies) very hard, since he didn't expect it.
Harsh_Potter February 25th, 2011, 3:48 pm I am not the crying sort. So, for me to cry in a theatre with a bunch of people beside me, was really rare.
And Dobby's death was the one time that really got to me. It really was well-done and I didn't find it to be hammed up at all!
AccioSeverus February 25th, 2011, 7:16 pm Dobby's death by a landslide, for me. Harry burying his head onto Dobby as he spoke of being Harry's friend and that he was happy to be there with him did it for me. Also, Hermione obliviating her parents, and the Godric's Hollow sequence had me in tears as well.
And another moment that made me tear up was when Harry lunged at Hermione and Ron at the Burrow into that huge, adorable hug. It was so cute it made me tear up, hahaha. I just absolutely love the friendship between the trio.
MsBinns February 26th, 2011, 3:17 am And another moment that made me tear up was when Harry lunged at Hermione and Ron at the Burrow into that huge, adorable hug. It was so cute it made me tear up, hahaha. I just absolutely love the friendship between the trio.
That was definitely one of my favorite moments in the film! I love those kinds of moments between the trio.
Wimsey February 26th, 2011, 8:30 pm And Dobby's death was the one time that really got to me. It really was well-done and I didn't find it to be hammed up at all!What killed that scene for me was Dobby being so poorly done as a CGI character. It was quite bizarre: Kreacher looked quite real, but Dobby looked just as bad as he did in 2002: and he already did not look good in 2002! I usually do not get "pulled out" of scenes because of effects (I am a long-time Doctor Who fan, after all!), but I did there.
Hedwig's death might have worked better for me, but it was too abrupt: I simply had no time to form any attachment to the "character" so quickly in the film. (To their credit, they did a better job with Dobby, introducing him early: but he really needed a "middle," too, as well as a complete CGI remake.)
Ron's return could have been quite powerful, but Hermione was simply too wooden. They really needed the enraged explosion there, and raised eyebrows did not cut it. (This happened in Prince, too.)
To that end, my choices are still a tossup between the Horcrux destruction (although "powerful" might be a better word for that), Godric's Hollow (very well done) and the forlorn dance scene (ditto). I'd forgotten about the group hug: there was a great awkwardness there that really rang true.
BorisKelpman February 26th, 2011, 8:40 pm What killed that scene for me was Dobby being so poorly done as a CGI character. It was quite bizarre: Kreacher looked quite real, but Dobby looked just as bad as he did in 2002: and he already did not look good in 2002! I usually do not get "pulled out" of scenes because of effects (I am a long-time Doctor Who fan, after all!), but I did there.
I'm sorry, but I absolutely disagree with this evaluation. The Visual Effects Society awarded Dobby's animation in Part 1 its commendation for Outstanding Animated Character in a Live Action Feature Motion Picture for good reason: he was, in my opinion, beautifully animated and employed a wide variety of movements that made him feel more real. During his death in particular, the skin, eyes and mouth were perfectly represented -- I could see his ragged breaths, feel the glassy effect in his eyes, etc. His happiness at being in Harry's arms was so subtly incorporated into his features. Another standout was the mixture of fear, anger and confidence on his face during his confrontation with Bellatrix -- again, I tip my hat off to the animators for this accomplishment. It is interesting to see the disparity of views, at least: some still thought that Dobby didn't look very good, while others (myself included) consider his animation to be a crowning accomplishment and an apparent labor of love for the animators involved. Indeed, on repeated viewings of the film, I came to appreciate just how much emotion could be found in seemingly minor details on his face.
Ron's return could have been quite powerful, but Hermione was simply too wooden.
This deviation was compensated, for me, by the cinematography and how it captured the emotions of both Ron and Hermione. That slow, creeping close-up of her face was stunningly executed and revealed more subtle emotion than an overabundance of "rage" would have. To dismiss the expression as merely "raised eyebrows" is IMO an utter simplification (to me, it was curiosity at what Ron was saying mingled with fading anger, as seen in her expressive eyes), but I understand full well that it's no good to debate too much on this thread -- discussing the merits of the scenes brought up here is a matter for another thread entirely.
My choices are still a toss-up between Obliviate, Charity Burbage's death, Hermione's words about her parents and Dobby's death.
Reid February 27th, 2011, 9:51 am Obliviate for me, capped off by the changing pictures.
ajna February 27th, 2011, 12:22 pm Obliviate for me, capped off by the changing pictures.
I'd agree that Obliviate and the montage were most moving. Great set up. Just gave you the chills for a set up to the movie. I had no trouble with watching Burbages scene. It really didn't affect me. and Dobby's ....well, it was "sad" but I never was really invested personally in Dobby. But his CGI was fine.
MsBinns February 27th, 2011, 10:01 pm I think the soundtrack was what made the Obliviate scene so moving for me! That song will come on my iPod at random while I'm driving and I'll even get all teary. (I know, I'm ridiculous).
ShireMagic March 5th, 2011, 9:04 pm The Obliviate seen was very moving especially as it was totally unexpected. Harry visiting his parents grave also upset me, no where near as much as in the book though. However I've never cried in a Harry Potter movie. Or in a Harry Potter book. I'm just not a crying sort of person I suppose! Dobby's death didn't make me too sad in the movie (I sound heartless but to be fair I had a very annoying HP hating friend next to me actually LAUGHING at him dying. Why oh why did she even come?)
tru0001 April 26th, 2011, 1:20 pm Dobby's speech saying that he is a Free Elf was really moving and afterwards he died which was really moving as Daniel Radcliffe and Dobby's voice really synced well! "Such a beautiful place... to be with friends..." D;.
Another part that moved me was when Petunia shows her true colours to Harry and Dudley telling Harry that he wasn't a waste of space
bigseach April 26th, 2011, 10:01 pm Obliviate and when Hermione tied the scarf around the tree before they left.
The only reason I got choked up about Dobby's death in the book was Luna's eulogy. No eulogy in the movie, so it didn't have the same impact for me.
thesevensydneys April 27th, 2011, 12:41 am The very first scene got me. Obliviate, the music, Privet drive... all of it. The scene showed how dark the times are and they are so different then past movies. It just got to me.
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