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Hpmons June 24th, 2003, 6:41 pm Perhaps Im just blind, but I couldnt find any topic onthis.
So, who do you thing the next Defence Against the Dark Arts teacher will be?
A new character?
A Weasley? (dont ask me why)
Lupin?
Snape getting his dream job at last?
Llopin June 25th, 2003, 10:35 am I'd really like Lupin for the job again, but I'm sure he will be busy with the OotP, so i doubt he has time to teach. I'd actually like to see Snape, maybe he finally gets the job he wants, I'd like to see how he teaches DADA. But he wouldn't have time to teach Potions, DADA and work for the order.
I guess the new teacher will be a new character.
Charmed June 25th, 2003, 10:58 am I would love to see Lupin brought back in. But because he would be the "fans" choice I can't see JK bringing him back to Hogwarts. I would hate it if Snape got the job. Would he still teach potions though?
Llopin June 25th, 2003, 11:07 am Well, I think it would be hard for him to teach two subjects, but it would be fun if he did DADA instead of Potions (because Snape in two subjects would be horrible), and maybe they would hire a new professor for Potions. Lupin would be the best, but I also doubt he'll be back.
Kendra June 25th, 2003, 1:39 pm Maybe Tonks will be it? Though it does spell out Doom if that is the case.
Picko June 25th, 2003, 1:50 pm I think it will be a new character seeing as that is what has happened in every other book. I'm thinking however that Snape might just get the role for Harry's seventh year.
Kendra June 25th, 2003, 2:22 pm Snap Picko, the job is looking very doomed, what with no one available for the job this year and Umb***h having to step in!
Hawk 92 June 25th, 2003, 2:31 pm I'd like to see the return of Lupin. But with it being common knowledge that he is a werewolf and with no change in attitude to werewolves I think its slim.
I'm going with Snape. It would be way to continue with the Harry vs. Snape since there was a chance that Harry would not make it into NEWT level potions.
If Harry doesn't get into NEWT level potions, which we'll know early in the book, then the new teacher will be Snape.
Cheers!
Charmed June 25th, 2003, 2:48 pm I was thinking perhaps Moody would have a crack at it. Understandably he may be a bit wary considering what happened to him last time. But he may want to be closer to Harry, to make sure he stays safe.
sharls June 25th, 2003, 3:21 pm yeah i think now that the 2nd war is coming.. theyll bring in someone to protect harry or least an appropriate teacher to teach the kiddies how to blast the bad dudes
how bout dumbledore?! haha tat would be cool but unlikely
Hpmons June 25th, 2003, 5:56 pm The reason it might not be someone from OotP is because they probably will be too busy. THe reason why they could, is becuase they could protect Harry etc. I cant quite decide...
I do think that Snape will get the job in the 7th book as well. I very much doubt Harry would do potion NEWTs; so if Snape didnt teach DADA, Harry wouldnt interact with him much.
I dont think it will be Lupin. Becuase parents now know he is a werewolf, there would be lots of complants.
In an interview, JKR was asked whether any teacher would last more than one year, and she said something along the lines of "You will have to wait and see". So, I think it is possible Moody might teach, as he didnt exactly teach in the 4th book, as he was impersonated. I doubt it would be Tonks, but its a possibility.
Kreacher June 25th, 2003, 7:26 pm With the ever increasing threat of an attack by Lord Voldemort, would Dumbledore be willing to teach DADA as well as be headmaster? Surely he would be able to teach the kids better than anyone. Dumbledore could also start building his "army" and have control over the topics covered by the course.
remus81 June 25th, 2003, 11:26 pm I would love for it to be Tonks, she is now sharing the position of my favorite character with Lupin. I just can't say enough about the woman, but she might be too young to teach. Do you think? They said Quirrell was really young.
What do you guys think, does she have a chance?
Silver Phoenix June 26th, 2003, 12:17 am As everyone has said - Lupin would be my first choice. But..as thats not going to happen..then I wouldn't mind seeing Snape with the job or even Mad-Eye. My personal opinion though, is that it will be a new character yet again. But, I don't think any will last. My reasoning..?
I think that in the course of the next two years, there will indeed be two new characters for the job, but in the end, in the epilogue.., that Harry will be the new DADA and will keep the position. The books have been slowly showing him getting better in the area, and who can argue with his teaching abilities at the DA meetings. And in an interview I think JKR says one character /does/ become a teacher and its not Hermione. So all the clues fit..the only reason i'm not dead set on the theory is that it seems probable that he might become an Auror..
adonaichild June 26th, 2003, 12:18 am I don't think it will be anyone in the Order, seeing that everyone in the Order is pretty busy, and they need all the help they can get. I too, would LOVE to see Lupin as well--I really like him. I hope that he steps in to take on more of a role in Harry's life.
I also have a burning question--does Dumblemore teach anything I wonder? Because, if you think about, in CoS, in the flashback of Riddle and Dumbledore, Dumbledore refers to Dippet as "Headmaster Dippet" but everyone refers to Dumbledore as "Professor" I mean, people do call him headmaster...I was just wondering if he taught in 6 or 7th year...
Silver Phoenix June 26th, 2003, 12:21 am Originally posted by adonaichild (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=394207#post394207))
I also have a burning question--does Dumblemore teach anything I wonder? Because, if you think about, in CoS, in the flashback of Riddle and Dumbledore, Dumbledore refers to Dippet as "Headmaster Dippet" but everyone refers to Dumbledore as "Professor" I mean, people do call him headmaster...I was just wondering if he taught in 6 or 7th year...
I think Dumblefore use to teach Transfiguration. And I have no idea if it was in the books or an interview. I just remeber seeing it somewhere that he use to teach Transfiguration. If someone could find the source to that information i'd be great. :)
Elektra June 26th, 2003, 1:43 am [i]Originally posted by Silver Phoenix
And in an interview I think JKR says one character /does/ become a teacher and its not Hermione.
The student who becomes a professor is Neville, and he will teach Herbology.
Elektra
Picko June 26th, 2003, 2:36 am Elektra would mind providing a direct link to the information seeing as you appear so sure of your statement? To the best of my knowledge JK has announced nothing. Thanks :)
ChaliceInnana June 26th, 2003, 2:41 am Tonks, I think.
It was implied that Tonks was one of the aurors to make it through the tests and be accepted.
McGongal said she would do whatever it took to make sure Harry became an auror, so having a recent graduate might be one way she could smooth it out.
Also, with the war on, it might pay to have a fully qualified auror at Hogwarts.
And I love Tonks, she is ball of fun. Hermione and Ginny worship her. And she is Draco's first cousin. It'll be fun to watch her advertise her relationship to the little brat!
Elektra June 26th, 2003, 3:40 am [i]Originally posted by Hawk 92
I'm going with Snape. It would be way to continue with the Harry vs. Snape since there was a chance that Harry would not make it into NEWT level potions.
If Harry doesn't get into NEWT level potions, which we'll know early in the book, then the new teacher will be Snape.
Prof. McGonagall made it clear that Harry MUST take NEWT-level Potions in order to become an Auror. I think he will, for several reasons. Harry seems very desirous to pursue becoming an Auror, and it's the only career Harry can choose that doesn't conflict with his life mission according to the Prophecy, so I think it's likely that he'll either become one or die trying. McGonagall indicated she would do anything to help him achieve it, and seemed to think it was still possible even in consideration of his academic record. I think Snape would even help him work towards it since it serves the interests of the Order for Harry to become stronger in his fight against Voldemort (and Snape needs to make up for throwing Harry out of Occlumancy). I think Harry will, surprisingly, score high enough on his OWL's to continue to take Potions into NEWT level, and not just because he needs to order to become an Auror. Harry expressed relief over getting out of Potions after OWL's so he can avoid Snape; but Rowling has consistently increased Harry and Snape's involvement with each other despite Snape's increasing dislike for Harry (although I sensed that after Snape experienced some of Harry's bad memories, and probably after he had time to cool off about Harry experiencing his memory of the Marauders, he might find some kinship with Harry based on their commonalities instead of seeing Harry as the reincarnate of James). Harry is probably going to get out of Divination now that the prophecy theme has come to a climax, so he CAN avoid Trelawney, but the difference is that Trelawney's subject is "rubbish" whereas Potions is still very useful to him. A recurring theme through the books is doing things you don't necessarily like or want to do, because it is the right thing to do. It is right and necessary for him to continue studying Potions with Snape. Also, we learned in Book 5 that the reason Harry does do badly in Potions is not because Snape penalizes him out of spite (although he obviously enjoys it when Harry does do badly), but because Harry is sometimes distracted and forgetful about doing his work properly. Now that he's learned his bad performance in Potions isn't entirely Snape's fault, maybe Harry can squeak by with a high OWL grade and do well enough in 6 and 7 to earn a NEWT.
I could see Dumbledore teaching DADA in Book 6 or 7, and especially now that Voldemort has definitely returned, I'm sure all the parents will be clambering for an effective DADA teacher, and except for Lupin, they haven't had one yet. Maybe their fear of Voldemort will overcome their fear of werewolves, and so Dumbledore would be free to invite back Lupin. Goodness knows he needs work after Umbridge's anti-werewolf law, and now that she's been discredited Dumbledore could repeal the law and bring him back to Hogwarts. I just wonder if he'll be too busy with other work with the Order to come back and teach. Mrs. Weasley might be another candidate, if Dumbledore continues to have problems filling the vacancy, as long as there aren't any rules against parents teaching their children at the school. I could see her wanting to be near her younger children now, and the woman does have skills. Or it could be a totally new character. I just don't think it will be Snape.
Elektra
Ollivander June 26th, 2003, 3:41 am Snape is a really good Potions teacher.. tho he is mean.. he is a good one.. so i doubt he will get DADA.. there is NO way Lupin will get it b/c he is a WW.. im pretty sure it will be someone we havent heard of yet.. all the people in the OoTP will be too busy..
cynismus June 26th, 2003, 6:48 am I think that our old friend Lockhart just might recover in time to take up the DADA position...
...joking
That would be the last thing Dumbledore would allow to happen.
Bill June 26th, 2003, 7:24 am VICTOR KRUM!
Wait and see. JKR said a student would be. He comes from Durmstrang which has a big focus on D.A, and is still in contact with Hermy. Hmm.
rotsiepots June 26th, 2003, 7:41 am Whoever the next DADA professor is, I have a strange feeling that they'll be in the position for (gasp) Harry's sixth and seventh year. The "curse" does have to be broken at some point and I have a funny feeling it might be in the next book.
Jinxie Cat June 26th, 2003, 8:43 am For the new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher... I'm going to stick with the JKR-DADA teacher pattern! Every DADA teacher that we've seen, all had the same two qualities. They were all brand new characters. And we had never heard about them before and they were never mentioned before. So I think the new teacher will be someone that we've never heard about who's new... Maybe they'll be nicer... Unlike Umbridge...
Carbito June 26th, 2003, 8:57 am I think it might be Dumbledor. I guess we will just have to wait to find out.
martinnyg June 26th, 2003, 11:12 am I think it'll be Kingsley Shacklebolt. It would make sense for Dumbledore to want to have a Order member around, and now that Sirius is dead, Kingsley doesn't have anything to do. Being an Auror and all he would definitely also know his stuff, and would teach the students good.
And I also have a feeling he will die in the next book, and then the curse on the job could continue.
But most likely it's going to be an entirely new character like in the 5 previous books.
Dark Elf June 26th, 2003, 11:29 am I think that in book 6 Dumbledore will be able to chose who he wants, thus he will take someone from the Order. I wish it is Lupin but it is really impossible. I woud like Tonks to get the job but she is a bit young to have a such important job during a such dangerous year. Must be someone else like Dedalus Diggle...
For book 7 I bet it will be Dumbledore, if he is still alive...
Tool of Slytherin June 26th, 2003, 12:10 pm No one has mentioned it so whats Dumbledores brother up to? I forgot what the book said about Aberforth but could he possibly be up for the job?
Elektra June 26th, 2003, 2:30 pm Originally posted by martinnyg (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=395214#post395214))
I think it'll be Kingsley Shacklebolt. It would make sense for Dumbledore to want to have a Order member around, and now that Sirius is dead, Kingsley doesn't have anything to do. Being an Auror and all he would definitely also know his stuff, and would teach the students good.
And I also have a feeling he will die in the next book, and then the curse on the job could continue.
I think Shacklebolt is an excellent candidate! It would even go along with Rowling's tradition of introducing the DADA teacher to Harry before he gets to know them at Hogwarts. Quirrel he met in the pub, Lockhart he met in the bookstore, Lupin he met on the train, he didn't actually meet Mad-Eye, but Mr. Weasley had to cover up the trash bin incident while Harry was staying with them so Harry had at least heard of him, and Professor Umbridge was at Harry's trial. Hmm.
Elektra
Elektra June 26th, 2003, 2:49 pm Originally posted by Tool of Slytherin (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=395301#post395301))
No one has mentioned it so whats Dumbledores brother up to? I forgot what the book said about Aberforth but could he possibly be up for the job?
Page 454 in GoF:
"My own brother, Aberforth, was prosecuted for practicing inappropriate charms on a goat. It was all over the papers, but did Aberforth hide? No, he did not! He held his head high and went about his business as usual! Of course, I'm not entirely sure he can read, so that may not have been bravery...."
Something tells me that Aberforth might not be the most, ahem, knowledgeable of wizards, but he was in Moody's picture of the original Order members, so maybe there's more to him than we know about. He might end up being very skilled in practical work, but not in book knowledge, which would make his teaching a refreshing follow-up to Umbridge's reign of terror. And I could see a character like that encouraging the DA to continue, which I think will end up being very important. I could even see some jokes being made as the kids get excited hearing that "Professor Dumbledore" is teaching DADA, and then finding out it's Aberforth instead of Albus. It sounds like he would definitely be an interesting character to flesh out, and now that Rowling has mentioned him again, I suspect we will be seeing some more of him, whether its as the DADA teacher or not.
Elektra
vickygirl4 June 27th, 2003, 7:29 pm I think a new character will be DADA teacher in book 6, and Snape will get it in book 7.
Rosie B. June 28th, 2003, 12:49 am The student who becomes a professor is Neville, and he will teach Herbology.
The problem with that is if Neville has to be the Herbology teacher then WHERE DID PROFESSOR SPROUT GO?
I think that the student will take up the DADA class. As to who that is, Harry has my vote.
eclipseSD June 28th, 2003, 1:09 am It depends on what kind of condition Harry is in after year 7.
Elektra June 28th, 2003, 1:42 am Originally posted by Rosie B. (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=397328#post397328))
The problem with that is if Neville has to be the Herbology teacher then WHERE DID PROFESSOR SPROUT GO?
There are two books left in the series. A lot could still happen. Professor Sprout could retire. Professor Sprout could die. She's not a vital character. She could be removed pretty easily.
Elektra
animagus1369 June 28th, 2003, 2:05 am Originally posted by Helhorns (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=393183#post393183))
Maybe Tonks will be it? Though it does spell out Doom if that is the case.
Yeah, Doom or a rash of broken bones for Madame Pomfrey to cure--Tonks is such an adorable klutz! :rotfl:
animagus1369 June 28th, 2003, 2:13 am My heart says "Lupin," my brain says "no way."
It won't be Snape. Hordes of reasons why, but suffice it to say Snape is going to have a lot more important things to do next year than teach a new class, and it's very risky for him to teach DADA given his past.
I think it'll be a new character who we'll meet in the beginning of Book 6--following pattern, as none of the DADA teachers before now have been introduced to Harry before the book corresponding to the year they'll be teaching.
animagus1369 June 28th, 2003, 2:19 am Oh, dear, just had a horrible thought. What if Bill Weasley, who's in England now, decides to chuck the desk job at Gringotts and go to Hogwarts to teach DADA? That leaves room for the curse to keep on, but I'll be so bummed out. <starting to bite fingernails for next two years>
Bit June 28th, 2003, 3:02 am Where did JKR say that a student will teach DADA? If it's true, I agree that it'll probably be Harry, perhaps in conjunction with an adult because let's face it, the kid's still a kid and has homework and quidditch and stuff of his own. He's proven himself a very capable teacher with the D.A. and has always excelled at DADA. Haha, I'd like to see Harry trying to teach Malfoy how to conjure a Patronus -
"Just think of happy thoughts now, Malfoy..."
"..."
"Hm. You did it."
"Of course I did, Potter."
"What were you thinking of?"
"How good it's going to feel when I kill you."
"Oh. Professor Dumbledore, we may have a problem here..."
Is it just me, or does the thinking of happy thoughts remind anyone else of Peter Pan?
I'd still like to see Narcissa Malfoy teach DADA... leaves room for the "curse". Now that I think about it, I can see Dumbledore teaching it as well...
Or Fudge could just get a really GOOD person from the Ministry to teach it... no more of that theoretical nonsense now that he knows Voldemort is back.
Elektra June 28th, 2003, 3:12 am Originally posted by Bit (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=397603#post397603))
Where did JKR say that a student will teach DADA?
She didn't. She said that one of the students will become a teacher at Hogwarts, but she didn't specify the subject, although she did say the student isn't Hermione, in fact it's someone who we wouldn't expect. Which leads me to believe it's Neville, since he's portrayed as the most bumbling of the crew, but he has a real gift for Herbology, which could have an opening when Professor Sprout either retires or gets killed in the fight against Voldemort.
Elektra
Raven June 28th, 2003, 3:40 am What about Bill or Charlie?
FawkesBox June 28th, 2003, 4:24 pm We have not known the identity of any of the previous DADA teachers- even though we were _so sure_ it was going to be him or her (well I guess her or her ;) ) in Book 5, Clearly there is a new character in each book. I think that it is more important to look at what the profs were not who
1) Quirrel- lackey of the Dark Lord. Now probably dead.
2) Gilderoy Lockhart- vain dandy who did memory charms on people and stole thier lives. Now in St. Mungo's.
3) Remus Lupin. Werewolf. Friend of the Potters, OOtP version 1.0. Now in OOtP version 2.0.
4) Barty Crouch Jr. as Mad-eye Moody. Death eater. Dead (probably) succumbed to the dememtor's kiss.
5) Umb***h. Oops! did I spell that wrong! Sorry! Lackey of Ignoramus Fudge. Hater of non-humans. Elitist. Bad bad girl...
4/5 were evil. The other was, kind of (he was a werewolf)
We have known none of them. I think that whoever it is (unless it is Snape) they will be evil or at least have a secret dark side.
remus81 June 28th, 2003, 4:41 pm Neither Bill or Charlie are really qualified. They are a curse breaker and a dragon keeper. Most of the jobs for the order are guarding things while invisible. Most of them didn't do much, so that doesn't qualify them.
I still think Tonks, she's an auror.
Sw33TLiLBuMbL3B June 28th, 2003, 5:06 pm Well it might be Mad Eye Moody... since he never really had a chance to teach DADA himself because of what happend in book 4....
crazytaxi June 28th, 2003, 5:25 pm I'm betting large money on Snape!
If you listen carefully to the web cast you can hear a clue, I think. JKR answers the question about why DD never makes Snape the DADA teacher (despite the almost chronic lack of suitable applicants - especially this year). She said that she couldn't say much QUOTE: "because it'll give too much away about the n - er books 6 and 7" I am sure she was about to say "the next book" and then caught herself.
I think Snape will get the job but it will be like giving an alcoholic a drink (she said that DD never gives him the job because it might bring out the worst in him) and he will have a major falling-off-the-wagon episode.
I really, really hope it's not permanent...or terminal.
However, the question about Snape not getting the DADA job before seemed to really take her by surprise. You could tell from her reaction that it was an important question and she had to think really hard about how to answer it!
Of course, in a fair world it would be Lupin. :)
Elektra June 28th, 2003, 6:01 pm Originally posted by crazytaxi (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=399163#post399163))
I'm betting large money on Snape!
If it turns out that way, poor Harry. Snape in Potions and DADA (assuming Snape would continue to teach both...and if he didn't, who would teach Potions?). I'm sure he'll be just as awful as he's always been, and if he's turning evil, and Harry will sense it, but no one will believe it because as Hermione said to Ron, they've suspected him so many times before and it's never been him, oh my! What troubles Harry will have in Book 6!
Elektra
McKinnon02 June 29th, 2003, 1:28 am I can think of a few possibilities already:
1. Snape
2. New Character (they always have been)
3. Fudge's Wife (he does have one...there's a line in GOF where Barty Crouch says he's going to dinner w/ Mrs. & Mr. Fudge)
4. A member of the Order whom we already know (Kingsley Shacklebolt looks like a good candidate).
itsybitsyspider June 29th, 2003, 2:42 am And in an interview I think JKR says one character /does/ become a teacher and its not Hermione.
Im pretty sure that was for the 5th book and referring to Harry teaching DA.
And the new DADA almost certainly a new character, or else, from the OotP.
Sirius83 June 29th, 2003, 2:47 am I liked the theory that it could be Viktor Krum. However - i think it will more than likely be a new character.
atac109 June 29th, 2003, 4:53 am I don't think Tonks or Kingsley will get the job because they are needed to keep an eye on the Ministry. You might argue that Kingsley is useless in the Sirius investigation now that Sirius is dead, but--who knows?--maybe Kingsley will continue a fake search, as if Sirius was still alive.
And, as for Lupin, I don't think he would even accept the DADA position if it were offered to him. Snape would be a great teacher, but I think he's still got something to prove in book 6 before he gets the position, such as getting along with Harry.
I hope the new DADA teacher is a character we've never heard of before, and I hope the person is a GOOD teacher. There have been too many evil, incompetent DADA teachers. Let's hope for someone like Lupin.
iigreenteaii June 29th, 2003, 4:59 am maybe it'll be TONKS in disguise~~~!
Mirkwood June 29th, 2003, 5:26 am For book 6 and especially book 7, it is important that it is somebody who can really teach him all the bad/powerfull stuff.
Any auror/order members makes sense too
My guess is Shacklebolt in book 6 and Snape in book 7.
btw.Victor does not have enough experience. He will however appear in the next book.
animagus1369 June 29th, 2003, 6:31 am Originally posted by Mirkwood (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=401322#post401322))
btw.Victor does not have enough experience. He will however appear in the next book.
True. He even wrote to Hermione that he had been surprised at how far ahead of him in DADA Harry had been, and that all happened in GoF.
jpratt1979 June 30th, 2003, 3:27 pm Originally posted by atac109 (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=401206#post401206))
I don't think Tonks or Kingsley will get the job because they are needed to keep an eye on the Ministry.
Not likely considering that the primary goal in "keeping an eye on the ministry" was that nobody there believed that Lord Voldemort was back. Now that the ministry has accepted the truth, and the Death eaters who would have been infiltrating the ministry have revealed their true colors, there will be less to keep an eye on.
animagus1369 June 30th, 2003, 4:14 pm Originally posted by jpratt1979 (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=405898#post405898))
Not likely considering that the primary goal in "keeping an eye on the ministry" was that nobody there believed that Lord Voldemort was back. Now that the ministry has accepted the truth, and the Death eaters who would have been infiltrating the ministry have revealed their true colors, there will be less to keep an eye on.
Oh, I don't know. I don't think Fudge is done with his tricks. Power's his only goal. Do you really think he's going to let the Order (of which he's not and--I hope--never will be part of) take the front line in any war in the Wizarding World? And do you think they'd let him do the same?
Sarmi July 1st, 2003, 1:25 am Considering DD couldn't find anyone for the job until the MoM stepped in at the last minute (practically). I expect to see someone from the ministry to teach the course.
As much as I would like Lupin to be the DADA professor, he'll be too busy with the Order and all.
Most likely, the DADA professor will be a new character. We just don't know who it will be, only JKR knows.
See ya!
NeedAM!nT July 1st, 2003, 8:54 pm It would be cool to have Kingsley as the new DaDa teacher! :D He seemed really cool.
I heard a rumor that Snape might fall in love. Maybe a new DaDa would be a girl? But I like the idea with Kingsley.
Maybe Amelia Bones would take the job. Rowling kept bringing her into things, and she seemed very friendly with Harry.
JenJen July 1st, 2003, 9:46 pm Kingsley does seem to be a good choice - he'd probably be backed by the ministry, too. It'd just be horrible if something happened to him, though, because I'm sure the Order will be losing enough members fighting Voldemort as it is.
remus81 July 2nd, 2003, 2:11 am I think Tonks will be good for all the same reasons that Kingsley would be good. Besides, comic relief will be increasingly more important as the series progresses, and she provides great comic relief.
Barry_Trotter July 4th, 2003, 9:35 pm Okay, if this was already done in a post, I'm very sorry.
I have four ideas on who I think will be the new DATDA teacher.
1. Snape's dream of being the DATDA teacher will come true.
2. A new person will be the DATDA teacher, I think that is very unlikely.
3. I think that maybe Bill or Charly Weasly maybe, but probably most likely Charly, since he probably knows a lot from dealling with all of those dragond.
And 4. I don't know why I think this, but maybe Victor Krum will be the new DATDA teacher. Didn't Hermiony(sp) say something about seeing Krum soon?
What do you think of my Idea?
P.S. If you want, you can say who you think will be the new DATDA teacher!
:p
CentaurFirenze July 4th, 2003, 10:17 pm I don't think Snape will be it but I do like the idea of one of the Weasley's or Krum to become the next DADA teacher.
dudemanthing July 5th, 2003, 12:05 am I'd love to see Snape become the new DADA teacher. It'd be wonderful to see what "tricks" he has under his sleeves...
I personally think that he'd be a great DADA teacher because of his background in the (um) "field".
Chrysta_Who July 5th, 2003, 12:47 am Long shot, yes, but it would be downright awesome if Dumbledore himself started teaching DADA!
Mouthn of Merlin July 5th, 2003, 1:10 am Kingsley Shacklebolt for DADA teacher.
iloveron77 July 5th, 2003, 1:14 am I think it would be pretty kool if Snape became the DADA teacher, he does have alot of experience in that "field" as you said dudemanthing.. but i dont think he will become the DADA teacher because Dumbledore wont let him, i mean why would he not let him be it all this time, and then just suddenly change his mind??!! So i think Snape is gonna stay the Potions teacher. As for one of the Weasleys, that would be incredibly awesome... it could happen... same with Krum =) ~iloveron77
Alison July 5th, 2003, 1:18 am Rowling always uses the DADA position to introduce a new charcter, so I don't know why she would change that.
otto lupin July 5th, 2003, 5:03 am i bet snape gets the job 7th book
i can just feel it
Daveydee July 5th, 2003, 7:15 am Rowling always uses the DADA position to introduce a new charcter, so I don't know why she would change that.
Yes she has, but I think that this concept has more or less been exhausted now.
The continual references, throughout the series, to Snapes ambition to teach DADA, I'm sure is a build up to him actually realising his ambition. Also in the only possible clue that JK has so far given to book 6 (Albert Hall webcast) we are led to believe that Harry's choice of NEWT subjects will be relevant to the plot.
I suspect that what will emerge is that over the summer, Harry will learn that he has failed his Potions OWL, will be thoroughly relieved that he will no longer have to suffer being taught by Snape, will have passed his DADA OWL with flying colours, and will return to Hogwarts to find that he will study DADA NEWT under Snape.
martinnyg July 5th, 2003, 10:24 am Originally posted by Mouthn of Merlin (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=422089#post422089))
Kingsley Shacklebolt for DADA teacher.
Agree, that's what I'm countain on too. Since he hasn't anything to do, now that Sirius is dead. And Dumbledore would most likely want someone from the Order, to teach the kids properly.
Doggy July 5th, 2003, 11:29 am Don't forget that the DADA teacher never lasted for more than one year, so if one of the Weasleys became teacher (which I doubt, they seem to busy already, with their jobs and OotP, add to which that they would have to teach their siblings, and I don't know if they'd find that fun) they'd have to die, resign or disapear or something, and I don't really want that to happen. Besides what would happen to them? In that case I guess they might die fighting for the OotP or something.
Ali July 5th, 2003, 4:54 pm *merged 'My thery on the new DATDA teacher.....' with 'The DADA teacher in the 6th book' *
Mutant for Hire July 5th, 2003, 5:12 pm Originally posted by Daveydee (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=423169#post423169))
Yes she has, but I think that this concept has more or less been exhausted now.
And Rowling loves to turn expectations against the reader. The fact is that if Snape gets the DADA post, we can expect Snape to die, resign or go to evil at the end of the book.There is also going to be the existance of a potential traitor enemy hidden at the school. Given the bad record of the previous DADA teachers, two of them working for Voldemort, one of them working for the Ministry of Magic in opposition to the school, one incompetant and only one teacher who was both good and knew what he was doing, Snape shoots to the head of the suspect list.
Naturally, Snape is going to be the first DADA teacher who is not only not evil but manages to return for a second year. :D
I suspect that what will emerge is that over the summer, Harry will learn that he has failed his Potions OWL, will be thoroughly relieved that he will no longer have to suffer being taught by Snape, will have passed his DADA OWL with flying colours, and will return to Hogwarts to find that he will study DADA NEWT under Snape.
No. I don't think Harry will fail it. I think he'll get an E, and realize that he needed an O to continue on in the NEWT class for Potions and be disappointed he didn't get the O and partially relieved. And then the fall will come in and Harry will discover that he's got a new Potions teacher who like McGonagall is willing to take on an E student in Potions.
And yes, Harry with the O in DADA will be in Snape's DADA class, no excuses. And for that matter, Snape also knows that Harry will need to be trained. Of course they have their failed occlumency lessons from the previous year hanging over them. But I suspect that Harry will actually push himself hard in DADA in opposition to Snape. I think that Harry is going to make a lot of progress in DADA under Snape. In poitions it was one thing but I think Harry and Snape practically duelling in the DADA class will be a different matter.
And of course Ron and Harry have the hope that Snape teaching DADA means that Snape will be gone at the end of the year. Imagine their reaction when they realize that Snape was the one who actually broke the jinx.
Elektra July 5th, 2003, 5:53 pm [i]Originally posted by Mutant for Hire Imagine their reaction when they realize that Snape was the one who actually broke the jinx.
I can just hear Ron now,
"Yeah, he probably broke the jinx because he was the one who put it there in the first place."
Elektra
Maggles_W July 6th, 2003, 12:43 am I dunno if anyone said this yet....there are too many posts for me to check but personally I hope it's a charactor we don't like....considering the position is jinxed and all....I fear if it is Lupin or someone else we all love the could be killed off by the curse that comes with being the DADA teacher!
Rain July 6th, 2003, 1:04 am I know that it is not possible but I want Harry to be the next DADA teacher. Hermy can help him make a course plan for him. Also, the jinx on the DADA job has to be broken, so why not start with the boy who lived?
Maggles_W July 6th, 2003, 2:30 am I dunno if anyone said this yet....there are too many posts for me to check but personally I hope it's a charactor we don't like....considering the position is jinxed and all....I fear if it is Lupin or someone else we all love the could be killed off by the curse that comes with being the DADA teacher!
Barry_Trotter July 6th, 2003, 2:38 am Originally posted by Maggles_W (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=425381#post425381))
I dunno if anyone said this yet....there are too many posts for me to check but personally I hope it's a charactor we don't like....considering the position is jinxed and all....I fear if it is Lupin or someone else we all love the could be killed off by the curse that comes with being the DADA teacher!
Good point
Supreme July 6th, 2003, 5:41 am A new character? No
A Weasley? ummm -- No
Lupin? 50/50
Snape getting his dream job at last? No - After what he did to Harry after he met him in the Pensieve? Definetly not.
Some reason I really think it is going to be a Death Eater not yet known to the Ministry. He will spy for Voldemort and will try to kill Harry and Dumbledore in the process. And I also believe maybe Lupin will be hired to help comfort Harry.
aphelion July 11th, 2003, 5:44 am I like the Snape becoming DADA teacher idea, and with a new character who does accept non-O OWL students.
Just a thought, not that i believe in it, but won't be funny if Percy, not Bill of Charlie, got the job. That would be priceless.
haycheng July 11th, 2003, 6:15 am He would get the job eventually. I mean what the point of building him up. Alhough we know how JKR write, it may suprise once again
Darjeeling Teacup July 11th, 2003, 11:41 am I really love the idea of Narcissa Malfoy coming in but, can you imagine a blueblood coming to work as a teacher?
However, if an "as yet unknown" Death Eater comes to Hoggie's as the new DADA teacher, s/he will be quite surprised with the DA members.
And I'm sure that they'll be using their new found talents in the next 2 yrs.
Now Viktor Krum has my nod - unless he's playing Quidditch professionally - after all, it would fit in with DD's speech in the end of GoF - "you know, everyone here is always welcome at Hogwarts..." and the other part of "United we stand..."
And I think Durmstrang's emphasis was on the DADA, so Viktor's knowledge could come in handy.
And the last nominee, Granny Longbottom! Someone from the "old school" who has no time for the snotty kids, but will learn firsthand of Neville's improvements - sort of an older version of Prof. McGonogall.
just my 2 knuts!
Merry Hippogryffs July 11th, 2003, 11:49 am there isn't a chance in the world that Snape will get that job. I guess dumbeldore has his own reasons for that, because otherwise he would have made Snape DADA teacher in book five, instead of letting that #*@%& Umbridge be appointed, he might have done that back in book 2, instead of useless lockhart.
must be a new character.
McKinnon02 July 11th, 2003, 12:42 pm Durmstrang put a lot of emphasis into teaching Dark Spells, as well as defending against them. Somehow, I think Krum would rather keep on playing Quidditch professionally than teach. I don't think Snape will get the job, especially after the stunt he pulled with cancelling Harry's Occlumency lessons. My money's on either a new character, or Kingsley Shacklebolt. He's a top Auror, he's trusted by both the Ministry and DD, pretty talented when it comes to DADA itself, (he did take on 2 Death Eaters at once during the D.O.M. scene,) and he'd make for a refreshing change in the pattern of previous DADA teachers.
Draco is Hot July 11th, 2003, 3:04 pm Originally posted by otto lupin (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=422653#post422653))
i bet snape gets the job 7th book
i can just feel it
i definitely agree!!!! but for book six, i would like to see Lupin Come back. that way, harry wouldn't be so lonely because of sirius' death coz there will be another Marauder close to him.
One of the weasleys will be awesome too. i prefer Bill! puhahahahhaaha.
ok, Really Really far-fetched idea but, the Ghost of Sirius Black!!! it's just a crazy thought, i mean Binns is a ghost isn't he? but then like Nearly Headless Nick said, he might not return. i kinda believe him but somewhere in my head, sumthing tells me that Sirius will be back.
another crazy thought, Igor Karkaroff. like McKinnon02 said, Durmstrang puts an emphasis on the Dark Arts. i kinda feel that he wouldn't be the headmaster of Durmstrang for long. OooOo!! Snape's blood will boil!!! but then, Karkaroff is running away from Voldemort and with Harry being his main target, i don't think Igor will go back to Hogwarts ever again. dangit! i just contradicted myself. i hate it when that happens!!! oh well...
i suppose a new teacher would be introduced coz i think the idea of the DADA class is nobody stays to teach it permanently. i would love to be surprised. i can't hardly wait!! i want book 6!!!! like crazey!
Don' eat raw hagis July 11th, 2003, 4:10 pm Charlie is out getting more forien wizards for the order and Dumbledor said he needed more people to join. also Bill is still at Gringotts but he might quite or get a second job at Hogwarts. Bill is more likly because of his curse breaking job.
MotherBear1975 July 11th, 2003, 11:06 pm I am of two minds on this. On the one hand... if Snape were to get the DADA job, how would he explain that to Voldie? Voldie's *got* to trust Snape in order for Snape to do his job. On the other hand... If Snape took over DADA and someone else took potions... Harry could continue on in Potions and bacome an Auror. I don't think Snape could mess Harry over too badly in DADA... because he already has confidence in himself at that... like Mcgonagal said of Neville... "Your only problem is lack of confidence" Harry was never given a *chance* to be good in potions.
aphelion July 12th, 2003, 3:16 am I don't know, McGonagall might be just saying that to make Neville feel better, seeing how Snape's been bullying him all the time.
I do really feel that Harry will take potions, and certainly a class with Snape, but it feels too contrived for Harry to get an 'O' on potions. I don't think that even him will believe it. Thats why i'm thinking that Snape will teach DADA and another teacher will teach potions. But that sounds contrived too...just my 2 knuts
FlarbyGarby July 12th, 2003, 7:57 am I think it's gunna be a totally new character...no-one thats in the order because they could have taught last year right?...but they didn't.
I agree with the whole introducing the new teacher before Hogwarts...but Shacklebolt was introduced a year before...I dunno doesn't seem to fit in my mind...tho JK could prove me worng.
Hopefully the new DADA teacher will introduce something TOTALLY fresh and different and...have a personality that no DADA teacher has had before...(that rules out nervous, smarmy, nice, paraniod/creepy, and evil).
The new DADA teacher has always brought something new to each book and I'd hate that to change...my feeling is that there will be a new DADA teacher in book 7 as well...if one does last longer than one year my bet will be the 7th year professor and JK will tell us in one measly little sentence near the end of the last book.
Tho having said that I could be totally off the mark-barking up the wrong tree-searching for a neadle down the back of the sofa...completely wrong...but I guess we'll have to wait and see...hope it's not too long.
noeleon July 12th, 2003, 8:25 am the next DADA teaher will be Harry, hes done so much and is the leader of the DA....
Harry:"Thats it Neville! Detention with me at 5:00!"
Neville:"Yes Professor Potter sir."
BAHAHAHAHAHA...maybe not....
Or it could me McGonagall, seing as how she was pretty adament about seeing Harry become an auror
it will most likely be someone new
yeeep im talking outa my butt hole
Wakkachuta July 12th, 2003, 11:37 am I just want to say this first and foremost... Snape will never be a DADA teacher OK, I can't prove that beyond a doubt, but I just know it. Let's just consider one or two things. Why was Dumbledore so desperate for a new DADA teacher, but not desperate enough to allow Umbridge to take the position rather than Snape? I mean, rather than allow someone Fudge picked, Dumbledore could have easily given Snape the go-ahead and then find someone else for the not-cursed job of Potions Master. If Dumbledore wasn't desperate enough to allow a spy for the Ministry of Magic become DADA teacher instead of Snape, I dont think he will ever allow it.
Now, as to who I think will become the next DADA teacher? A new person. Someone we've never met before. But someone who gets introduced before start of lessons, as, I'm sure you've noticed, what's happened in all the books so far.
In book 1: Harry meets Quirrell in the Leaky Cauldron
In book 2: Harry meets Lockhart in Flourish and Blotts
In book 3: Harry meets Lupin on the Hogwarts Express
In book 4: Harry hears about Moody at The Burrow
In book 5: Harry sees Umbridge at his hearing.
So, of the many characters that get introduced before he gets to Hogwarts, one of them is bound to be the new DADA teacher.
remus81 July 12th, 2003, 1:32 pm I agree that Snape will never be DADA, I think that DD has a very good reason. I also think that it was not by accident that Umbridge became DADA in OoTP was so that there was a presence of the ministry in Hogwarts. What's the saying "keep yuor friends close and your enemies closer...."
Anyway, I would like it to be Tonks, but I think it will be someone new.
McKinnon02 July 12th, 2003, 2:46 pm We were introduced to several new characters in book 5. Any one of them could be the DADA teacher for Harry's 6th year at Hogwarts. They'd have followed the pattern of being introduced before Harry goes back to school. And it would be a new twist from being introduced to a new character in Book 6. My vote's still with Shacklebolt. :)
heala July 13th, 2003, 2:24 am I don't think Snape will ever get the dark arts job because at one time he was a death eater. However maybe dd will teach newt level dada so the more advanced students will be better prepared to face the war they will be thrown in to when they graduate. but possibly there could be a new teacher or the other teachers might each take a class if they can't find anyone.
ssssalizar July 13th, 2003, 6:03 am I think Bill has a good point: Viktor Krum would make alot of sense. There has to be a reason why JKR keeps referring to him (through Hermione), and as Bill pointed out, Durmstrang put alot of emphasis on the dark arts. In book four it is mentioned that Krum doesn't agree with all the dark arts stuff, and that he would prefer to attend Hogwarts. To me he would seem like the perfect person for the job.
I was also thinking about Dumbledore, who would of course make a great DADA teacher, but he would be too busy, just like the rest of the OotP. Just think of all the other stuff he has to think about!!
animagus1369 July 13th, 2003, 12:13 pm Originally posted by ssssalizar (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=450277#post450277))
I think Bill has a good point: Viktor Krum would make alot of sense. There has to be a reason why JKR keeps referring to him (through Hermione), and as Bill pointed out, Durmstrang put alot of emphasis on the dark arts. In book four it is mentioned that Krum doesn't agree with all the dark arts stuff, and that he would prefer to attend Hogwarts. To me he would seem like the perfect person for the job.
I was also thinking about Dumbledore, who would of course make a great DADA teacher, but he would be too busy, just like the rest of the OotP. Just think of all the other stuff he has to think about!!
I'd love to see Krum again, but I'd hate to think of him as DADA unless his English skills have improved somewhat. lol ("Hermeeowninny") Really, I think at this stage of the game, he's only about 19 and would be better helping the Order than he would be teaching DADA after Voldemort's return.
Another thing I was wondering about--how long has this DADA teacher curse thing going on? How are there so many people who graduated Hogwarts who are actually *good* at DADA if they've been stuck with all these idiots for so long? Don't you think it would be the *worst* place in the world to send Harry for school if the teachers in DADA were so incredibly bad?
AvadaKedavra July 13th, 2003, 12:54 pm I think Dumbledore will "approve" the DA meetings and they will be allowed to continue and Harry will be very successful. However it all depends on how Harry feels after Sirius's death.
If Dumbledore himself was the DA teacher then I would immediately know that he dies later on in the 6th book. JKR has a fun thing of carrying on the curse of the job, and if Dumbledore was still alive why would'nt he carry on the job to seventh year, thus breaking the curse?
animagus1369 July 13th, 2003, 1:12 pm Originally posted by AvadaKedavra (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=450510#post450510))
If Dumbledore himself was the DA teacher then I would immediately know that he dies later on in the 6th book. JKR has a fun thing of carrying on the curse of the job, and if Dumbledore was still alive why would'nt he carry on the job to seventh year, thus breaking the curse?
Actually, I don't think that would break the curse. I'm not sure which book it's in, but it says that no DADA teacher in recent history had made it past 3 terms. If I'm right in thinking that a term is like a semester (1/2 a school year) then DD would have to survive the DADA post through the end of book 7. If a term is an entire school year, it would have to be even longer. Can't see either of those things happening, myself.
AvadaKedavra July 13th, 2003, 1:18 pm No, a term is NOT a semester. In England we have 3 terms:
Autumn term: Sept to Dec (XMAS)
Spring Term: Dec to April (EASTER)
Summer term: April to July (SUMMER HOLIDAYS)
And those are split up into half terms, but this doesn't apply to the wizarding world. Also notice that at the end of a term is when a student has the opportunity to go home.
I'm a college student at school (essentially a 6th Former) and I've had to endure those rules ever since I was a nipper, so trust me on this one :D:D:D:D
Hope that clears that up for you
Prosperine July 13th, 2003, 2:57 pm I think the DADA teacher will be an entirely new character (and hopefully a good teacher since they seem to have lacked in those!)...
Wouldn't it be cool if she (or he) was one of Lily's school friends?
Scarlet Tears July 14th, 2003, 7:50 pm I'm pretty sure that the Defense Against the Dark Arts teachers in both books 6 and 7 will be brand new characters, since J.K. Rowling uses the job to introduce new characters to the school and thus a new aspect to the entire plot. I just hope he or she is more of a Lupin than a Quirrel/Lockhart/Crouch/Umbridge.
Another person that I could see teaching DADA would be Kingsley Shacklebolt, since he is an experienced auror, and a very good one at that. It would provide a way for the Order to keep an eye on Harry, and since a final battle between Harry and Voldemort is practically inevitable, Harry will need excellent training in order to come out victorious. Plus the fact that his main focus in the Order was to keep an eye on preventing Fudge from finding Sirius (sniff...) he will have to find something else to do.
I highly doubt Snape will ever get the job, considering the fact that Dumbledore wouldn't even choose him over Umbridge. I'm really curious as to why, and what J.K. Rowling has said (or avoided saying) about the issue leads me to believe it is of great importance to the books. Poor Snape.
Oh, one other thing I need to mention. Even though Snape was a member of the Order, it did not prevent him from teaching potions. This could be because he may have a more limited role in the group, though, yet he seemed to be pretty involved with its activities over the summer.
Witflick July 14th, 2003, 7:52 pm I would love to see an Order member as the new DADA teacher, rather than someone new. I think Tonks or Shacklebolt would be pretty good.
MagiCils July 15th, 2003, 6:39 am I agree with the people who think it could be Krum in 6. But maybe that's just cause I'd like to see him back again!
I think Snape will be DADA in 7. Not only because it would seem like his final rehabilitation, but because if it is going to be the final battle against Voldemort, it seems only fittingly ironic that Snape, as a former acolyte of his, should be the one to teach the students how to attempt to defend themselves against LV too.
emikkime July 15th, 2003, 7:01 am I agree that Snape will definetly teach DADA at one point. I think though that we'll have a new character as teacher in Book 6, and in 7 it will be Snape. After all, why else would JK keep referring to him?
One thing I would like to see though is; Snape DADA teacher in Book 6, and then Harry DADA teacher in Book 7.
Remember that Snape said he would only take students for NEWT Potions if they got an O? Well what if, Snape became DADA teacher, Harry got an O in DADA (Entirely possible) and the new Potions teacher was more lenient? It is defiently a possibility....
Darjeeling Teacup July 15th, 2003, 10:05 am I was thinking that Krum would be it, but, after re-reading the scenes up to the banding of DA in OotP, Hermione says that "He [Viktor] said Harry knew how to do stuff even he didn't, and he was in the final year at Durmstrang."
So. I don't think we'll be seeing VK next year (I wish!).
But Tonks has stirred up my imagination. What if an old(er) woman comes up as the new DA teacher? She would be the female version of Lupin. But maybe gives herself away halfway thru the book by saying "Wotcher Harry?"
Then the 4 (H,R,H,G) woould recognize her as Tonks!
what say?
Pwk2k3 July 15th, 2003, 1:05 pm :)
Pwk2k3 July 15th, 2003, 2:58 pm no one likes my graphic? :(
McKinnon02 July 15th, 2003, 5:17 pm Nah. Tonks has her job as an Auror to worry about, and I doubt the Slytherins or Ravenclaws would take her very seriously. Not only would she constantly knock things over in the classroom, she was defeated pretty easily by the Death Eaters in the D.O.M. at the end of book 5. She only just got out of Hogwarts 4 years ago, as well. The job's still pretty much new to her, I can't see her giving up her work for the Order so she could go teach a bunch of kids how to defend themselves.
Darjeeling Teacup July 15th, 2003, 5:36 pm Pwk2k3: Loved your graphic! :clappy:
McKinnon02: Sure she's young and clumsy, but maybe that'll add to the excitement of the DADA class. Also, she's gotta be better than Umbridge!
Pwk2k3 July 15th, 2003, 6:50 pm actually she wouldn't have to give up her job, it would be a posting, still continuing the curse of the DADA teacher as she'd probably have to give it up after the year was out. seems likely they would need to place a trained Auror in a place such as Hogwarts. Personally, while Malfoy might make fun of her a bit (okay alot) It'd be nice to see her use him as a test dummy "Mr Malfoy, could you please come up here and show me how you would defend against this.... " Blammo the return of the great white ferret! While she may be a bit clumsy, I have a hunch her spellwork is pretty durn good after all she DID make it as an auror, even after almost failing stealth.
Pwk2k3 July 15th, 2003, 10:14 pm alright, I made a graphic for you snape for DADA supporters :P
I can make it smaller if need be
Tessa July 15th, 2003, 10:51 pm We know that Snape will never become the Defence Against the Dark Arts Teacher. Rowling confirmed this in the Royal Albert Hall reading, where she stated that if Snape did have the position, it would bring out the worst in him.
Pwk2k3 July 15th, 2003, 11:21 pm I dont believe he'll ever have it either, but that was for those that wish it so. :) They can hope cant they?
keskin_snape July 18th, 2003, 8:34 am bah........ I posted a new thread on who I wanted to have as a new DADA teacher for 6th year. Hopefully someone will merge it with this...
I did a search... but I guess I didn't look hard enough.
On the topic........ I don't think ANY students will be teaching at hogwarts during the books, but maybe one will be told they have a job opening at the graduation?
phoenixsong July 18th, 2003, 8:55 am Originally posted by Tessa (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=458198#post458198))
We know that Snape will never become the Defence Against the Dark Arts Teacher. Rowling confirmed this in the Royal Albert Hall reading, where she stated that if Snape did have the position, it would bring out the worst in him.
Actually, she said that that was why Dumbledore hadn't given him the post up to now, but she very clearly left the possibility open, because she said something about starting out with potions and seeing how that went for starters. (i know, i know, that isn't what she said, but that was the gist of it). she definitely did NOT say that he would NEVER become the DADA teacher.
Kassandra Amparo July 18th, 2003, 12:03 pm Well,everyone can be the new DADA teacher but Snape. I do not hate him,i even like him sometimes but i don't think he has any chance to get the job. Dumbledore would have given the job to Snape ages ago if he'd been really capable of teaching it !
miscreant1105 July 18th, 2003, 3:15 pm Does the ministry recognize the fact that Sirius is dead? There was no mention of a body being found, so it would be difficult to prove. The witnesses would have to admit to have been in contact with him to inform the ministry of his death and seeing as the ministy doesnt believe in his innocence, that could lead to some trouble.
dumbleedore July 18th, 2003, 11:59 pm I think it's going to be a member of the order we are yet to meet. Dumbledore will want more members of the order around to protect Harry (even though he don't really need it).
keskin_snape July 19th, 2003, 8:16 am I'm pining for a sassy female who is the perfect match for Snape. I just want a heated argument between him and a woman... ::goes back to fanfiction land...::
Kassandra Amparo July 19th, 2003, 9:49 am I agree with Dumbledore.
The real Moody could be a possibility,or maybe Shacklebolt...but not Tonks,she's far too young !
MagiCils July 19th, 2003, 10:28 am Kingsley Shacklebolt would be a great choice for 6, assuming it dosen't end in his death of course - I really liked him, and would love to see more. Still think it has to be Snape for 7 though. That would be so nice stylistically, quite apart from the plot!
McKinnon02 July 19th, 2003, 11:07 am Miscreant, it would be easy to get a bottle of Veritaserum, force it down more than one of the DE's throats, and get them to talk about how they saw Sirius die. :) Something I'm sure DD had Fudge do in that half hour chat at the D.O.M.
hightideorlowtide July 20th, 2003, 4:15 am Shacklebolt would be a good idea, Id love Lupin or Snape to become the DADA teacher ( I love reading the parts with Snape, he's just too **** funny) they might come out with a new character though,
Tonks would be fun... how come everyone thinks shes a disaster? shes clumbsy but im sure she great with DADA she is a auror.
But knowing JKR she'll add a new character she always does
Haplo July 20th, 2003, 4:21 am Itll be a newb like me :) Its been someone that we didnt know in every book why would she change it now? That is kind of sort of it anyway isnt it? New person every year..... Snape dont get the job..... Something way wrong with the new person.....CONSTANT VIGILANCE o k there really was nothing srong with him lwest there was a full moon but you get what i mean.....
Magi July 20th, 2003, 5:58 am Kingsley is a good candidate. It would be great to see Lupin or Moody come back, but Lupin left voluntarily and Moody wouldn't be too keen on getting trunked up again.
I hope it's not Snape. DADA would probably be the most important subject now, and Snape isn't really a good teacher.
duynd July 20th, 2003, 5:59 am I think maybe Snape will become DA DA teacher and someone will replace him in Potion class, so Harry can take the NEWP Potion class.
MalfoyIsMINE July 21st, 2003, 2:03 pm yeah i really agree with duynd, it would be great for Snape to become the DADA teacher because Harry is already amazing with that and he can show Snape up a bit, also Harry would be able to step potions up a notch without snape breathing down his neck and treating him unfairly...but it would also be pretty cool to see someone else from the order showup such as tonks, lupin, or shacklebolt....or maybe even Mr. & Mrs. Weasley...now that would be the greates suprise DADA teacher of them all, doncha think?
dark*angel July 21st, 2003, 2:08 pm Some one really mean for sure!!!!
vickygirl4 July 21st, 2003, 2:33 pm I'm sure it's going to be a new character, but I hope it's a good teacher! I think Snape will get the job, but in book 7, not 6, because something bad always happens to the DADA teacher and they leave hogwarts. Rowling will probably keep this tradition going, and Snape can't leave Hogwarts just yet (it would be so boring without him!)
keskin_snape July 22nd, 2003, 6:10 am Nah, I reckon Snape will get the DADA in the 8th year. But we won't see it of course as... well she ISN'T writing an 8th book is she?
No what I think will happen is we'll get a new female DADA teacher who will last both the sixth adn seventh years. [so its not the same as the previous DADA teachers].
And she's the one Snape gets involved with... I hope so. That'll be good.
;)
illuminati July 22nd, 2003, 6:20 am I am thinking it will be a completely new character as has happened thus far from the books. Also, i believe it will be someone younger due to the fact that most everyone will be called back up into service because of the return of Voldemort. Add the growing pains of Harry now being 16 ,and we might have a young gorgeous woman teaching DADA class making for quite a few bumblings from Harry for the 1st time in a class he whole heartedly excells in.
too_wicked July 22nd, 2003, 6:29 am It's got to be someone new, female or male. I also think this person will last until Harry's last year. Book 5 left us a lot of unanswered things about Harry's parents. Maybe this person will reveal a lot of things about his parents, most particularly Lily. I don't think that person would be someone like Lupin, cool, friendly and helpful. Maybe we're going to have another Umbridge here. Hope not, though.
DarkRa July 22nd, 2003, 6:48 am I didn't read the whole topic...sorry, no time... but my answer to the question Who will be the next DADA teacher I simply answer:
We simply don't know. Before OotP I could have bet anything that the DADA teacher will be Mrs. Figg, but JKR introduced Umbrige. We simply can't predict the next pearson for this particular job. JKR will amaze us again.
keskin_snape July 22nd, 2003, 6:55 am Maybe the new DADA teacher will be an old friend of Lily's? We havn't heard about any of Lily's friends yet but we have met James's.
Could be about time...
Plus... if she's Lily's age.... then she'll be around Snapes age..... and.....eeeeeeeeeeeeee... :crush:
I guess I've made it pretty clear what I want to happen eh?
Dedalus Diggle July 22nd, 2003, 9:53 am I want to see Molly Weasley as the new DADA teacher for a year. As an OOTP member (to say nothing of being the mother of the twins!), she must know loads about curses, spealls, vigilance, poisons, etc. - after all, she was overseeing the elimination of the magical pests, traps, spells and monsters of 12 Grimmauld Place - she wouldn't have the position if she didn't know what to do without running to others all the time. It could be really funny too, with her giving the motherly treatment to Ron, Ginny, Harry and Hermione in school - you know, cleaning smudges on their faces with her hanky, talking about their private embarrassing home moments in front of EVERYONE, rambling about their romantic interests, etc. - and then turning around and kicking their b***s in DA meetings, just to show them how far they have to go to be truly quality fighters
aphelion July 22nd, 2003, 10:44 am You seem to forget that Mrs. Weasley can't get enough of a grip on herself to defeat a boggart. I don't call that a kicka** DADA teacher.
jeanie beanie July 22nd, 2003, 11:25 am Okay, this is my first ever post, so here's my 2 cents for what it's worth.
I'm going to have to go with the majority and say that the next DADA professor will be someone new. I agree that Tonks and Shacklebolt would be cool, but I think that they could better fight Voldemort as Aurors. I don't think Snape will be the DADA professor because it would just be too much temptation and stress on top of him already being a double agent. Any member of the Weasley family would also be cool, but again I think that they are fulfilling much needed roles less where. Besides, in the case of Mrs. Weasley if she became the DADA professor imagine what a damper that would be on Harry, Hermione and Ron's adventures.
Dedalus Diggle July 22nd, 2003, 11:35 am Quote orig posted by Aphelion: "You seem to forget that Mrs. Weasley can't get enough of a grip on herself to defeat a boggart. I don't call that a kicka** DADA teacher."
Good point - she should not have tried to tackle it alone - Lupin said that in his very first lesson. There's an awful lot more to being good at defense than handling a boggart - the OOTP should be so lucky as to have no worse enemies than boggarts. Of course Molly's problem with the boggart is that her greatest fear cannot be made ridiculous - no matter how you dress it up, a dead family member is a horrible thing. She would also have the advantage as a teacher of having all the antidotes for the skiving snackboxes.
Darjeeling Teacup July 22nd, 2003, 11:41 am I GOT IT!
The next DADA teacher is::: Aunt Petunia!
Can you imagine the shock of That happening?!
Just go with me for a moment.
We don't know that she's a muggle. We do know that she married one and she's the mother of one.
However, Colin and Dennis Creevey are muggle born siblings. Maybe Aunt Petunia has submerged her witch skills given the environment she's in.
Now, with the rise of Lord Voldemort, Dumbledore will call upon her for the better good of all mankind.
Hey! this is called "Predictions and theories" - not "FEASIBLE predictions and theories"! LOL :D
Girl July 22nd, 2003, 12:50 pm It's hard to say who the next DADA teacher will be. I think it will be someone new, which will make it very hard to guess who it could be. I do however think that the new DADA teacher will play a big part in the plot for book 6.
I don't think that Snape will get the DADA job. The reasone is that JK said that Dumbledore doesn't want to give Snape the job cause he thinks that if Snape got the DADA job he will go back to his old self.
jerb July 22nd, 2003, 3:28 pm The new DADA teacher should be a new character. As far as the personality goes, I think it will either be a bad person or someone like Snape, but instead they are mean to the Slytherins. I think it might be interesting to Harry's reaction to that.
aphelion July 23rd, 2003, 12:19 am I got it! The next DADA teacher is Dudley!
Harry: "Professor Dursley, could you please demonstrate for us the counter for a pig-transfiguration spell?"
Dudley: "Oink Oink."
1Harry Potter July 23rd, 2003, 1:26 am I bet that Snape will get the job sometime in the next two books. My guess is that he gets it in book 7.
keskin_snape July 23rd, 2003, 7:03 am I'm still thinking it'll be a new character. Whom we will probably meet before Harry gets to Hogwarts.
It'd be funny if its some gorgeous woman who all the boys drool over. Bet Hermione wouldn't like that ;)
tree guardian July 23rd, 2003, 6:25 pm I think Krum will be the new DADA teacher in book 6.
If Hermione was really writing letters to Krum he has to know about the lousy teachers they've had and the new opening. I wouldn't be surprised if Hermione suggested it either. Though he said Harry knew spells even he didn't know GoF, Krum is still qualified and can't over look that fact that his school specialized in the dark arts.
Yep, I'd say he's a right canidate if any.
i don't think Lupin will be back in the position any time soon. He has recuriting to do. I wonder just how rare are warewolves. Perhaps there is an underground society like Vampires. (Not that they are underground just rarely seen..)
Narcisa--I don't think she is the teaching type--and well we know everyone knows her family isn't trustworthy anymore
Mrs. Weasly--Nope, I don't think so. She could, but I don't think she'd be all that interested
THere has got to be something to the DADA position. If there is a curse or jinx on it --who did it?
mel July 23rd, 2003, 10:04 pm I don't think it will be Lupin. Not only would parents not allow it because he is a werewolf, even if it were offered to him again he would refuse because he considers himself too dangerous. He said so at the end of GoF. Also, he is busy with the Order.
I don't think it will be Snape either. There's a reason why DD has never made him DADA Prof, and I think it has yet to be revealed. I think we will learn more about Snape's past and what he is doing for the Order, and this will shed light on why he has never gotten his dream job. This will have a huge impact on the plot, which is why it is continually brought up in all the books.
Moody... maybe, he was going to teach it before BC Jr got a hold of him. But he was brought out of retirement temporarily because no one would take the job, as an absolute last resort. And now that he's busy with the Order...
Tonks - she already has a pretty demanding job as an Auror, along with her Order duties. She also seems kind of young, isn't she fresh from Auror-training? There's a chance, but a very slim one. (She would be great fun as a teacher though!)
Dumbledore - no way. He is the Headmaster, and I see no need for him to teach DADA to protect Harry. (By the way, he used to teach Transfiguration, adonaichild. ;))
Mr./Mrs. Weasley - :lol: No.
Krum - Too young, and too busy being an international Quidditch player (which in my opinion is the only thing he's good at). Since when is he profficient in the Dark Arts? He was stunned every time he could have helped someone in GoF. Durmstrang may have emphsized DADA, but didn't Krum say Harry was even farther along than him? But I think JKR has something in store with his character, whatever it may be.
Aberforth - Hmmm. Didn't Dumbledore say he could barely read and did "inappropriate" things with a goat? :stuckin:
Kingsley Shacklebolt - Just because Sirius is dead doesn't mean he no longer has use as an Auror. (Does the Ministry even know Sirius is dead?) I think he will still be helping the Order. Plus, he has already been introduced, and historically all the DADA teachers have been new characters. I think KS will have some other role to play. Wouldn't rule him out though.
Bill/Charlie - they have their own jobs that they like, and probably don't have enough DA training to teach it. Plus the Order - DD needs them to help with the goblins and foreign supporters.
Narcissa Malfoy - DD would never hire her. She would be an awful teacher and Sirius would roll over in his grave if she had anything to do with Harry.
Percy - after the Barty Jr fiasco? I think that proved his competence in that area.
I think the most surprising person I can think of to teach DADA is Petunia! Now wouldn't that be a shocker! :D We don't know how much she knows about the magical world, after all... Not counting on it though. ;)
But the biggest reason for all these people not being DADA teacher is because we know about them. For all the books, it has been a new character, so it will probably be a new character in book 6 as well. But I think s/he will be introduced at the beginning of the book, before we know they are the new teacher.
By the way, the DADA position isn't jinxed so that whoever holds it will die, they will only last a year on the job. Lupin didn't die.
As a side note, Crouch wasn't that bad a teacher was he? He did a pretty good Moody if you ask me, and I think he taught pretty well... except for the evil thing. :rolleyes:
P.S. People were so sure Harry would be made prefect, too. Don't be so sure about what he will achieve next year...
Magi July 23rd, 2003, 10:29 pm Bill/Charlie - they have their own jobs that they like, and probably don't have enough DA training to teach it.
Actually, Bill is a pretty good candidate. He certainly has enough DA training - he used to be a curse breaker. I don't think you can be a curse breaker without having extensive knowledge of the Dark Arts and its counter-measures.
However, I think he'd be too busy with Goblins.
Master Dragonfly July 24th, 2003, 1:25 am OK, I can't believe I read this whole thread. I have to say, I wish it would be Tonks just to make sure they don't cut her out of the movies, but I hope even more that it'll someone new. If I was writing the 6th book, I'd add a little twist: the new DADA teacher would be a female half-dementor (you know, mother was a witch, father was a dementor, like half-giants). She would be creepy, but kind (the way Moody was...actually the way Crouch Jr. was pretending to be). Somehow she needs to be important to the plot...there needs to be something about her. Maybe she could kiss a student and then never forgive herself and tell Harry to create a patronus and kill her with it...god that would be sad. But then...so was Sirius' death. But Harry has to kill someone. He has to know how horrible it is so in the end he'll kill HIMSELF for killing Voldemort. In my opinion, that would be an excellent end to the series.
The last paragraph:
A horrible, empty feeling was rising in Harry, he could feel it within himself, as the Voldemort before him died silently, but the Voldemort within him screamed out in pain. His scar was on fire, he was dying, he was leaving life behind. Every bit of him ached as shrieked and desperately tried to run. Then he realized, raising his wand and muttering two words, he realized, as a jet of green light wiped life from his body forever, he realized that death was the only way to end this horrible agony, death was the only was to destroy the connection created by the scar...
OK, I got a little off topic there, but who likes my idea?
Fleur du mal July 24th, 2003, 4:26 am Hello, this is my first posting so please do not eat me, but... if 'I get it right, many of you thought Narcissa Malfoy to become the new DADA teacher for book 5, so why do you all believe now that this is impossible? I mean, let's say, she is NOT exactly that evil snob everybody expects her to be, then she is in real trouble now (you know, never looks good with your husband in prison as a murderer) and maybe she needs money, or an occupation or simply a place to go (what happens to Malfoy Manor when its owner is imprisoned?).
After Umbridge it can't get any worse, and I imagine Narcissa to know a LOT about the dark arts. My final argument is, like always, that for structural reasons Draco must bond with Harry in the end, and to get there, we have to see someone else's influence on Draco first.
I know, it looks like Narcissa giving Sirius away in book 5, but maybe this was only to direct us into a certain position? Because, after having seen the family tree, it was too obvious that something would happen about this Black/Malfoy connection. Now that it did, it cannot be as simple as it seems.
Hpmons July 24th, 2003, 5:55 am In order of most likely (my opinion):
Kingsley Shacklebolt (OotP member)
NEW Person
Mad-Eye Moody (OotP)
Bill/Charlie (They are OotP, but now as important)
Tonks (Too clumsy)
Krum (Very young, and his experience?)
Lupin (He is still a werewolf!)
Narcissa Malfoy (Dumbledore would only hire her as a VERY last resort)
Mrs Weasley (In OotP, but doesn’t seem to be skilled at DADA)
Snape (But perhaps in the 7th book! -JKR said something at the RaH…Cant remember what… )
Dumbledore (He’s FAR too busy! Headmaster, helping Fudge, OotP…)
Petunia (Its quite a nice idea really…But I doubt it)
Percy (I just don’t think so)
Aberforth (Hes got a criminal record…)
Guardian Angel July 24th, 2003, 9:11 am I hope it will be Lupin with all my heart! He does have a lot of things to do now that the war has begun, but so does Snape and he still is a Professor. However, I wouldn't like to see Snape getting the DADA position, although I have an odd feeling it might happen. And, from some reason, I believe that Bill Weasley could be the teacher... The saddest thing is that I don't know why I feel that way...
Tim the Wiz July 24th, 2003, 11:07 am Hope its Tonks...
mel July 24th, 2003, 11:29 am Originally posted by Master Dragonfly (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=479922#post479922))
the new DADA teacher would be a female half-dementor (you know, mother was a witch, father was a dementor, like half-giants).
Who the hell would get it on with a dementor??? If they suck all the happiness out of you, I would think one wouldn't be in the mood... :huh:
Elektra July 24th, 2003, 12:33 pm [i]Originally posted by Guardian Angel
And, from some reason, I believe that Bill Weasley could be the teacher... The saddest thing is that I don't know why I feel that way...
Bill's area of expertise is Charms, which isn't to say he's unskilled in DADA, but I think Dumbledore has plenty of work for him to do with the Goblins at Gringotts (and Fleur Delacour ;)) to ask him to teach at Hogwarts. Personally, I'd like to see Charlie teach it, but again, his expertise is in Care of Magical Creatures, and I've theorized in the Dragon Eggs thread that Dumbledore's assigned him an important mission in Romania which he won't be able to abandon, at least not for an extended period of time, until the war is over.
Of all the Weasleys capable of teaching DADA, I think Molly is the most likely. She showed us during the housecleaning at Grimmauld Place that she has an above-average understanding of the Dark Arts (at least better than some of the teachers they've had in the past!), and of all the people in the Order her specific mission is undefined enough to allow her to spend a year teaching at Hogwarts. She could also draw on Lupin's help if she needed it in lesson planning, etc., which would augment her lack of teaching experience, which probably wouldn't be an issue in the hiring process, anyway (see below). It would certainly make for some comic scenes with Ron and Ginny under their mother's watchful, protective eye at school all year long, struggling to do well enough in her class to please her since she'll probably be harder on them than the rest of the kids to prove she doesn't have favoritism. If this takes place, the Weasley family might just come to spend Christmas at Hogwarts, since it would be easier for the menfolk to gather there than Molly, the kids, and Harry to safely travel somewhere else (not to mention they could easily hold an Order meeting with Dumbledore, McGongall, Snape, etc. over the holidays, and the Twins could write it off as a business trip ;)). I don't know if there are restrictions on parents teaching at Hogwarts, but we do know Dumbledore is scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to DADA teachers. He also seems to hire DADA teachers with an ulterior motive besides just getting a good teacher; we don't know why he originally hired Quirrel, but we do know he eventually went over to the Dark Side, so Dumbledore might have sensed his inclinations and decided to keep him close by so he could watch him. I think Dumbledore knew Lockhart was a fraud, and hired him as a DADA teacher so he'd expose himself as an inempt. Lupin was hired because Sirius was on the loose and Dumbledore needed him to help guard Harry and help find Sirius, and Moody was hired for similar reasons surrounding the Triwizard Tournament. And then there was Umbridge, whose appointment Dumbledore had no control over. Molly would undoubtedly love the opportunity to watch over her youngest children at Hogwarts now that the war is on (we know from the boggart incident how much she worries), and Dumbledore might like to have her there to help protect Harry and provide him with some sense of family support now that he's lost Sirius. I'm not sure how she'd react to the DA, though; she was opposed to it when it was illegal, but now that it's not, she'd either encourage the kids to practice because she knows they need it, or she'll forbid them to do it because "you might hurt yourselves," and they'll still have to keep it secret. I think Molly would at least be willing to give it a try for a year, and due to the Curse, she'd only have to stay for one book, and then Snape could teach it during the 7th year.
More than likely, though, it is either going to be a new character or Snape. Despite the present lack of suitable teachers, with the war on and his reputation restored, Dumbledore might find someone willing to step up for the good of the young wizards of Hogwarts and teach them DADA. Or, he'll finally have to resort to Snape, which will make Harry's sixth year hellacious, and require the DA to continue on in secrecy (since I seriously doubt Snape will be amenable to Harry tutoring his students, even if the club is now legal again).
Elektra
Elektra July 24th, 2003, 12:34 pm Originally posted by mel (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=480646#post480646))
Who the hell would get it on with a dementor??? If they suck all the happiness out of you, I would think one wouldn't be in the mood... :huh:
ROTFLMAO!!!
Elektra
mel July 24th, 2003, 1:10 pm Re: Molly Weasley for DADA Prof
I'm sorry, but the thought of this seems so ridiculous to me! :lol:
Originally posted by Elektra (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?postid=480793#post480793))
She showed us during the housecleaning at Grimmauld Place that she has an above-average understanding of the Dark Arts (at least better than some of the teachers they've had in the past!)
She showed an understanding of house-cleaning. And that's not above average for a homemaker. She knew what to do with the doxies because she was reading Lockhart's book on household pests. She couldn't deal with the boggart at all, Lupin had to save her from it.
And of all the people in the Order her specific mission is undefined enough to allow her to spend a year teaching at Hogwarts.
I think the only reason she is in the Order is because she is Mr. Weasley's wife. Her role in the Order is to take care of the kids, prepare food, and clean house. She also cares deeply for Harry, which is useful... sometimes. But she is not there to fight Voldie.
She could also draw on Lupin's help if she needed it in lesson planning, etc., which would augment her lack of teaching experience, which probably wouldn't be an issue in the hiring process
On the contrary, I think anyone who's raised 7 kids has plenty of teaching experience. The problem is her lack of DADA experience, which is essential in order for her to teach it. Lupin would have a full time job trying to teach her all he knows (she would be teaching all 7 years of students!), and even if he managed to do that in two months time, she would have little if any experience with the things she would be teaching.
I don't know if there are restrictions on parents teaching at Hogwarts, but we do know Dumbledore is scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to DADA teachers.
If his barrel includes Mrs. Weasley, it should be much fuller because she has no more DADA qualifications than the average witch/wizard. Maybe less.
He also seems to hire DADA teachers with an ulterior motive besides just getting a good teacher; [...] Molly would undoubtedly love the opportunity to watch over her youngest children at Hogwarts now that the war is on (we know from the boggart incident how much she worries), and Dumbledore might like to have her there to help protect Harry and provide him with some sense of family support now that he's lost Sirius.
Molly would smother him, and embarrass him in front of the entire school with her mollycoddling. Dumbledore knows what she is like. Just because she loves Harry and is protective of him doesn't mean she would be able to protect him. If anyone takes Sirius's place it will be Lupin.
More than likely, though, it is either going to be a new character or Snape.
Who would have seen Umbridge coming? JKR will find someone. The position is wide open to whoever she wants to invent. It's always been someone new, and Snape teaching DADA in book 6 would make book 7 a bit anticlimatic. I'm not sure Snape will ever teach DADA. Why would Dumbledore change his mind now?
Sorry if I seem a bit argumentative... I don't mean anything personally. :angel: This is an interesting subject!
McKinnon02 July 24th, 2003, 3:49 pm My vote still lies with Kingsley Shacklebolt. I really don't see the point in continuing a fake search for Sirius. If he tells the ministry that he saw Sirius die, they'll believe him. He is trusted by both Dumbledore and the Ministry, and definitely has the DADA skills to not only protect Harry but teach the class. He took on 2 Death Eaters at once, in the D.O.M., and that's not an easy thing to do! He also stepped up to fight Bellatrix after Sirius died.
Capella July 24th, 2003, 8:33 pm I don't think it'd be Tonks or Kingsley. They're both employed by MoM and I can't see them being released on leave to teach kids with Voldemort on the loose.
I think it'll be someone new... Or it'll be Snape...
Umbridge was forced on the school by the MoM, and DD accepted her as the lesser of two evils (the other being Snape). In Book6, it'll be the same story - no one will want the job but this time the MoM won't intervene (not after the Umbridge fiasco). DD will be forced to accept Snape. But him as a DADA prof would be a blessing in disguise for Harry - he'd push him to the limits and Harry would learn a lot about the Dark Arts and how Death Eaters work. Also it'd mean a new Potions Master/Mistress who would probably lower the OWL entrance grade for the NEWT class, which would allow Harry in even if he doesn't achieve an O.
Darjeeling Teacup July 25th, 2003, 10:50 am hem hem :lol:
Although I think Aunt Petunia is a Great candidate, every year the new DADA teacher is introduced outside of the school. There's no reason to believe that JKR won't follow the formula again.
It's possible that the new teacher will be a member of the Order (now that DD's back in charge) but it won't be anyone we already know.
BigDog2081 July 25th, 2003, 3:33 pm I think Lupin will be back now that people will be more scared of the Dark Lord being back and won't care that a warewolf is teaching a class. It will also insure that the students are learning defenses they will need to protect themselves, it will allow Dumboldore to have another OotP around, and give Harry a new mentor. It will also allow Lupin to have a job again.
My second guess would have to be Tonks. Rowling gave us a decent introduction to her without doing a whole lot with her, so the DADA post would give her a larger role.
If it was to be a Wesley I would guess Charlie, even though his area is magical creatures. Bill has already moved back from Egypt to be closer to the action and this would allow Charlie to get back also. Although Dumboldore does want someone to find foriegn contacts and maybe in some big battle in the near future we will see Charlie bringing the dragons to fight against Voldi.
Veneficus July 25th, 2003, 4:00 pm We know Dumbledore has hired some unique individuals to teach the DADA. It may be in the realm of possibilities that the new DADA professor might not be (completely) human. Not every Professor at Hogwart’s is all human – Binns, Hagrid, Flitwick (??I’m not sure what he is), Firenze; see what I mean?
We all have our favorite characters whom we think will be the next instructor, but JK is likely to introduce an part-elf, or part-goblin (they themselves having their own special magical abilities) to develop the magical creature/Wizard unity plot. Then again a female DADA professor would give book 6 a unique twist. There are female members of the Order other than Tonks and Molly Weasly, for instance, Emmeline Vance (from the Lex - stately-looking Witch. Part of the Advance Guard that helps Harry in his escape from the Dursley house); and Hestia Jones (pink-cheeked black-haired witch who is part of the Advance Guard that helps Harry in his escape from the Dursley house. New member of the Order);
I can’t picture Dobby or Winky, or even one of Gringott’s goblins as the new DADA professor, but hey you never know. The wait to find out is excruciating, that we all can agree on.
GreenEyedMonster July 25th, 2003, 4:21 pm i think that snape hasn't gotten the job yet because he knows so much about the dark arts already that he used to teach some of his fellow death eaters, and if he teaches DADA, he might forget which side of the subject he's teaching...but then i think he may redeem himself and finally get the job, causing potions to be open for hire, and more people would be willing to take on that job as it isn't "cursed" or doesnt seem cursed like DADA does. i also think maybe hagrid will do more for the order rather than teach, and either grubbly-plank or charlie weasley will take that on...
i think when harry grows up, he will be an auror and eventually settle down to teach DADA, and i also think that neville will be an auror or a healer. healers have to be good at herbology, which neville is, and he could see his parents and be avidly helping them...ok that was off-topic, sorry
Ecthelion July 25th, 2003, 5:10 pm As to who it should be to realistically...I have no idea. But is my fervent hope that Snape is the one who gets it. Why? Well, there's certain reasons that are immediately obvious, but I happen to like the idea of this one.
Snape, regardless of his attitude and manners, is highly skilled in the dark arts. No doubt about it considering he was involved with them since age one. Harry, no matter what you say, is in dire need of all the knowledge he can get. After all, he has to kill the dark lord. That's gonna take some doing. But what's going to add a neat little twist to having Snape as a DADA teacher is this latest death....As we all know, Harry is absolutely appaled and despises snape and "will never forgive him"...however, if he has to take DADA and take it seriously, there are going to be some interesting confrontations going on.
Yet, Harry is going to have to respect Snape for his knowledge and possibly his intentions of wanting to actually improve Harry's skill. Could they possibly form a truce because of this? I hope so and am dearly hoping Snape wil get DADA for this very reason.
aphelion July 26th, 2003, 5:13 am Me too. It fits in perfectly, what with Harry needing to take NEWT potions and continuing the Snape-Harry subplot. Also, Snape is the person most qualified for this, and surely the one who will test Harry the most.
leenielou July 26th, 2003, 5:28 am Perhaps Im just blind, but I couldnt find any topic onthis.
So, who do you thing the next Defence Against the Dark Arts teacher will be?
A new character?
A Weasley? (dont ask me why)
Lupin?
Snape getting his dream job at last?
I think it'll be Harry!!
YouKnowWho July 26th, 2003, 10:27 am I think the new DADA teacher will be a new character. In every book we met a new character to take the job, so i'll think in book 6 it wil be the same.
However, i think we'll meet the new teacher before the new semester begins. Because Harry meets or hears about his new DADA teacher every time before the semester:
book 1: Harry meets Quirrel in the leaky claudron
book 2: Harry meets Lockheart in the book store
book 3: Harry meets Lupin in the train
book 4: Harry hears the head of Diggory talk to Mr. weasly about moody while he's using fluid powder
book 5: Harry sees Umbridge when his hearing is taking place...
Elektra July 26th, 2003, 11:03 am I think it'll be Harry!!
It will not be Harry.
1) He hasn't even graduated yet. Not even Dumbledore would let a student teach classes, even if he was the youngest Quidditch player in a century. Especially since Harry has a few other things to be worried about besides making lesson plans, and it would be physically impossible for Harry to teach all the DADA classes while still taking his classes (OK, there's the Timeturner, but honestly I don't see Harry getting one so that he can be a Hogwarts professor in his sixth year).
2) If Dumbledore passed over Snape for Harry, Snape would Avada Kedavra Harry in the halls at recess.
I think Harry will continue with the DA, however, we'll just have to see whether the new DADA teacher allows it to go on or if they must continue it in secrecy.
Elektra
Filia Tenebrarum July 26th, 2003, 11:06 am The new DADA teacher will be someone new, because that's traditional, and they will be competent because neither the ministry nor the school now have reason to employ an incompetent one.
I think that the tradition will be broken in book seven, however, and one of following people will get the job:
Snape. He's wanted the job for ages (perhaps it was he that put the jinx on it) and it would be fitting if he finally gets it.
Dumbledore himself. He would probably be an excellent teacher, although it's hard to see why he hasn't already taken the job if he could, when the alternatives are people like Umbridge or Lockhart.
Harry. He's already started teaching some of his fellow students and in many areas he's above NEWT standard. This does seem to be pushing it a bit, though; can you imagine Harry trying to teach a class with Draco in it?
Hpmons July 26th, 2003, 11:21 am Harry wouldnt teach DADA. I think JKR said that none of the trio will teach; and he wouldnt be able to teach whilst still at school.
I am starting to believe that it may be a new person (instead of me thinking it would be Kinsley Shacklebolt).
Good point about Harry hearing/meeting the DADA teacher before school YouKnowWho. I think that the pattern will continue in book 6 (but not book 7).
Also; I love Filia Tenebrarum's idea that it could have been Snape that put the jinx on the DADA job! I think that is a mystery that will be solved, and that makes sense!
But I also am ot sure that Snape would be that nasty.
Dumbledore is FAR too busy to do the job. We VERY rarely see him day-to-day at school; and when wedo, it is only in his office. He has so uch work to do.
Being Headmaster is hard enough, but then he is also head of OotP, is probably going to help Fudge, is part of the Wizengamot...Dumbledore has a very busy life; and couldnt possibly become DADA teacher.
mel July 27th, 2003, 1:12 pm I think Lupin will be back now that people will be more scared of the Dark Lord being back and won't care that a warewolf is teaching a class. It will also insure that the students are learning defenses they will need to protect themselves, it will allow Dumboldore to have another OotP around, and give Harry a new mentor. It will also allow Lupin to have a job again.
As much as I love Lupin, and would like him to come back, I think there is a very slim chance of him being the new DADAT. Even if all the parents did change their minds about werewolves, Lupin himself thinks that he is too dangerous to live among the students of Hogwarts. He said so at the end of GoF. Even if the position were offered to him, I doubt he would accept if for that reason.
i also think maybe hagrid will do more for the order rather than teach, and either grubbly-plank or charlie weasley will take that on...
I think Hagrid loves being CMC teacher too much to give it up willingly. ;)
Snape, regardless of his attitude and manners, is highly skilled in the dark arts. No doubt about it considering he was involved with them since age one.
He was? Where does it say that? All we know is that he grew to be a DE, and he didn't seem all too involved with it in the penseive memory...
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I don't like chocolate. No lie! :D
FilmChickJen July 28th, 2003, 2:45 am here is a theory
Someone else goes into the potions position. Snape is finally given his chance to teach DADA.
Reason
Snape said he didn't take on advanced students unless they recieve O's in his subject. Harry didn't get an O in potions but we know he did in DADA. He needs both subjects to become an Auror. I believe that Harry will train to be an Auror even though he will eventually become the DADA when he graduates. I think that Malfoy will also get an O in DADA and its only Harry and him in Snape's lessons. this should call for interesting tension.
At the end of the books, Snape is made headmaster and harry takes the DADA job
just a little theory that I have :)
McKinnon02 July 28th, 2003, 3:34 am One problem. Harry also needs extremely good grades in DADA to pass. His accomplishments outside of school won't carry him into the position. He needs to prove himself IN school as well, and given Umbridge's grades from last year, and what Snape's grades will look like if he's the 6th year DADA teacher, his chances of being an Auror could be shot to heck.
McKinnon02 July 28th, 2003, 3:35 am Erm...what I meant is, given the DADA grades Umbridge gave him, and the DADA grades Snape will give him, it'll be a black mark on his record.
aphelion July 28th, 2003, 3:37 am I think in the Hogwarts system, normal homework grades don't matter that much (I'm saying this cause so far Hogwarts system sounds like my old school and thats the way it was there), plus the Career Advice just talks about your NEWTs grades, which aren't graded by Umbridge or Snape.
eXistenZ July 28th, 2003, 12:11 pm I have my reasons to believe that the new dada teatchers in book six will be Crabbe anf Goyle. My reasons to assume this is obvious: They are both very intellignet and talented at the Dark arts and all other subjects as well... plus both have extraordinary skills and are without a boubt in my mind very suitable teachers
FilmChickJen July 28th, 2003, 12:14 pm One problem. Harry also needs extremely good grades in DADA to pass. His accomplishments outside of school won't carry him into the position. He needs to prove himself IN school as well, and given Umbridge's grades from last year, and what Snape's grades will look like if he's the 6th year DADA teacher, his chances of being an Auror could be shot to heck.
I was referring to the grades that he made on his O.W.L.S.
and I don't see how his grade for Umbridge will count. As far as Harry doing good in Snapes DADA class, well its not like potions, he will want to concentrate much harder and will have too considering what he is up against now
kiten_magic July 28th, 2003, 1:02 pm ok,if Snape is the new DADA teacher then who would be the new Potions teacher???? Im hoping it to be another new character- not someone we already know everything about... each book has at least one new character and it always seems to be the DADA so if Snape is DADAT then the newest member is Potions teacher.
YouKnowWho July 28th, 2003, 2:16 pm I don't know if Snape put a Jinx on the spell, he's been working at Hogwarts for 14 years he said at Umbridge's inspection. We don't know anything about the teachers before Quirrel.
Besides, it would be difficult to make such a jinx...
It's just one of the elements in the serie that every year a new teacher shows up.
We can be sure the new DADA teacher is a good one because the world believes Voldy is back. Dumbledore will now chose the teacher VERY carefully because the DADA lessons are very important now...
Filia Tenebrarum July 28th, 2003, 3:07 pm "But I also am not sure that Snape would be that nasty."
Are you joking? If you are: :lol: If not: Snape is the epitome of nasty. Whether he's evil is still in question, but there's no doubt he's jealous, bitter and malevolent.
"Besides, it would be difficult to make such a jinx... "
Snape, from what we know, is a very powerful wizard. I expect such a curse would be difficult, but not impossible for him.
"Dumbledore will now chose the teacher VERY carefully because the DADA lessons are very important now..."
Assuming he can find anyone willing to teach. In CoS, Lockhart was the only candidate and that situation can't have been improved by the fates of the recent teachers.
YouKnowWho July 28th, 2003, 3:15 pm Assuming he can find anyone willing to teach. In CoS, Lockhart was the only candidate and that situation can't have been improved by the fates of the recent teachers.
Yes, but in book 2 Voldemort wasn't on his full strenght again. And the real Moody wanted to teach at Hogwarts 1 as a friends service to Dumbledore. If Dumbledore really needs a good DADA teacher, he'll find one. And i'm sure Dumbledore will try, and succeed to find a good DADA teacher with Dark times coming up....
Luscious Malfoy July 28th, 2003, 3:36 pm 50% it will be somebody new in the sixth book.
50% somebody we've heard of, and a very powerful wizard able to teach them exactly how to stop Voldemort...maybe Harry?
DaManDan521 July 28th, 2003, 3:47 pm i am not sure everyone would love to see lupin in the position but its possibly a new character, possibly sum1 from the order that can keep another eye out for harry
viktorija_hp July 28th, 2003, 5:01 pm i think it will again be 1-year professor, it's just funny tradition. snape will probably become dada teacher, but i think it will happen in book 7
and, no, i don't think it will be lupin
honestly, idon't have an idea about newdada teacher... maybe someone new, just, please, not new umbridge!!! :censored:
S.P.E.W. not SPEW July 29th, 2003, 12:09 am i think that Snape will get the job. but he will not teach Potions and that Fluer Delcleur(however you spell it) will. no reason i jsut think that. Plus ron could go for her.Again.
Muse July 29th, 2003, 12:31 am Personally I'd like to see Lupin come back. Everyone knows he's a werewolf and he and Dumbledore will probably get some slack for getting him back, but JKR made a great remark regarding why she likes Lupin alot--she said something to the effect of how you have this character with this unchangeable condition. Well, if Lupin came back, it's something everyone will have to confront--that werewolves ARE a part of the wizarding community inasmuchas vampires are (heck, they sell blood lollipops at Hogsmeade), and like the disease, lupus, that Remus is named after, I think it'd be a great underlying message to see Lupin come forward. It's like lupus--it's a disease that should get more attention and acknowledgement if there's any hope for a cure.
If not Lupin, then Mad Eye Moody. Heck, I'd like to see what happens to the Slytherins when they get on his bad side. If Crouch Jr. was bad turning Malfoy into a ferret, I wonder what the real Moody would do. LOL :D
sophieke July 29th, 2003, 12:35 am I would love that Lupin would come back...
But I have a feeling that Snape is gonna get it....
McKinnon02 July 29th, 2003, 2:00 am I personally will look forward to DADA in the 6th year, whoever is teaching. Supposedly, this is the year when the class is allowed to be shown illegal dark curses (there are probably others besides the 3 Unforgivables.)
Bouncing_Ferret July 29th, 2003, 4:14 am Perhaps, with all this bad guy fighting going on, Dumbledore'll get a bit confused and mistakenly appoint Voldie as DADA teacher? Wouldn't that be interesting... Or not... ;)
I think that another female DADA teacher would be cool. What about Amelia Bones? I know, a long shot, but I thought she was really cool! A Weasley wouldn't be bad either - after losing Fred & George, I think Hogwarts really needs some Weasley re-population!
Hpmons July 29th, 2003, 6:04 am Perhaps, with all this bad guy fighting going on, Dumbledore'll get a bit confused and mistakenly appoint Voldie as DADA teacher? Wouldn't that be interesting...
:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
That would be so funny...Well, not really I suppose, becuase he will end up killing loads of people...Oh well, he would be exceppent at the "Dark Arts" bit of the lesson, and I think he could end up to be a reasonably good as a teacher - better than Lockhart or Umbridge. At least everyone will stop talking as soon as he enters the room!
Dumbledore has (sort of) hired Voldemort twice. He hired Quirrell in the first year (who had Voldemort sticking ou tout the back of his head) and hired Voldemort's most loyal servant in book 4.
Amelia Bones is a good idea...I never though about it, but she could be good at DADA, she has probably had some sort of qualification.
I definatly agree we need more Weaselys now! Perhaps Ron's cousin will come (or maybe JKR will just totally forget she even existed...) or Bill/Charlie will teach DADA. Hogwarts isnt going to be the same without Fred and George!
snape_is_mine July 29th, 2003, 6:07 am Oh I hope Snape gets it!! That would be really really cool, more Snape more Snape!!
Llopin July 29th, 2003, 8:55 am Oh I hope Snape gets it!! That would be really really cool, more Snape more Snape!!
If Snape got the job, I guess he'd stop teaching potions, as he wouldn't have enough time to teach two subjects to all the students, and therefore a new professor would be needed. I pefer that Snape keeps teaching Potions an that some other person gets the DADA job. I guess it'll be a new character.
jeanie beanie July 29th, 2003, 10:29 am I think Amelia Bones is actually a viable possibility for the position. I think it's less of a long shot than some other theories that have been proposed. If not her, then maybe some other member of the Bones family. They have history of supporting Dumbledore and fights the Dark Arts. Good idea, bouncing ferret! :bigtu:
Elektra July 29th, 2003, 11:16 am A Weasley wouldn't be bad either - after losing Fred & George, I think Hogwarts really needs some Weasley re-population!
There was a Weasley cousin that got cut from Book 4; Rowling says she really liked the character but unfortunately she just couldn't keep her in the story for plot and length considerations. Maybe she'll bring her to Hogwarts in Book 6, either as a teacher or a student. I got the impression she's around Fleur's age, which could put her in either category.
Elektra
Elektra July 29th, 2003, 11:19 am I think Amelia Bones is actually a viable possibility for the position. I think it's less of a long shot than some other theories that have been proposed. If not her, then maybe some other member of the Bones family. They have history of supporting Dumbledore and fights the Dark Arts. Good idea, bouncing ferret! :bigtu:
Amelia Bones will likely be replacing Fudge at the Ministry, if Mr. Weasley doesn't get the job...hey..wait...Amelia Bones could be offered the job of Minister, but she turns it down to teach at Hogwarts...and so the path is clear for Arthur Weasley to get elected.
Amelia Bones for DADA teacher in Book 6!
Arthur Weasley for Minister of Magic!
Elektra
P.S. 'Sorry about echoing the cousin theory; I should have kept reading before I replied. ;)
mel July 29th, 2003, 4:05 pm OK here's my list, in the order of most likely...
new character
Kingsley Shacklebolt or Aberforth Dumbledore
someone else from the Order
Snape (he only makes it onto the list because it would serve to move the plot forward, since then Harry would be able to take Potions. otherwise, no, or at least not until Book 7)
Cymruddewin July 30th, 2003, 1:45 pm If Snape gets the DADA job, the path would be clear for Harry to get a brilliant NEWT in Potions, but I believe DD will teach Transfiguration so he will be closer to Harry and McGonagall will teach DADA
jeanie beanie July 30th, 2003, 2:45 pm Hey Cymruddewin :)
Why do you think McGonagall will be the next DADA? I was just wondering because I can't remember it ever being mentioned in the books that she has expertise in that area.
Quasi_EviL July 30th, 2003, 2:53 pm It could be someone from the Order, because Dumbledore would trust them.
But I wonder if the DADA teacher next year will be a huge part of the plot once again. The teachers always have a part in the climax of the book. Quirrell having Voldemort on the back of his head, Lockhart coming into the Chamber of Secrets, Lupin in the Shrieking Shack, Moody being Crouch, Umbridge taking over. Will JK continue on with this tradition is what I'm wondering.
McKinnon02 July 30th, 2003, 3:20 pm Probably. I don't see why she has any reason to break it until book 7- the book where all bets are off. :)
Cymruddewin July 30th, 2003, 3:28 pm Hey Cymruddewin :)
Why do you think McGonagall will be the next DADA? I was just wondering because I can't remember it ever being mentioned in the books that she has expertise in that area.
I think that DD wouldn't want to teach Harry in such a vital class because of the eye contact thing so he appoints a teacher that he could trust with his life and trusts she will keep a close eye on him. I thinkMcG is a brilliant witch who could turn her hand at anything, including DADA
Fairydust July 30th, 2003, 3:30 pm I want the new DADA teacher to be a woman. but i also sort of want her to have odds with Snape. it would be ******* hilarious. i would love for Snape to get with someone and a new DADA teacher would be great...
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