Harry's 16th Birthday

the big birthdays are 16,18 and 21 as we wont see him reach 18 or 21 do u think he will he will have a good 16th and have a big party thown by ron and hermione and the weasleys after all he will need some fun so why not celebrate his birthday in style and have a big suprise party for him and he gets a good birthday for once and make him forget his problems for a night and will he recive anything from dumbledore like family heirlooms

:lol: WOOHOO! :birthday: HARRY!.......nah I really dont think so, 16 is really only THAT big cuz u can drive at that age. :shrug:

No I don't think so, I think Harry will receive the standard birthday that we've come to expect from the five previous books.

ah, why being so negative - Harry never had a proper birthday, and uncle Vernon is warned not to spoil his summer this time. So his friends could well think of a nice party or whatever, I mean, this time, he even needs more back-up than ever before, to cope with Sirius' death and the prophecy.
Actually, I'd really think it heartless to forget him or just send a letter like always.

Its 17 to drive in england btw! I dont think itll be anything special- but something big could happen on that day, I think maybe a death

possible - but I think it would be much too early for a death (i have a feeling that she won't let someone push the daisies in the first thirty pages).

I don't think the birthday will be that big. Unless Harry manages to get to Grimmauld Place earlier than usual. And besides; he'll be so depressed with Sirius' death that he wouldn't care.

His 17th birthday could be bigger; however. Don't forget that it's the wizarding world we're talking about; and there 17 is the birthday when you become of age; can do your apparition test etc. So even if it isn't celebrated by anyone; Harry will probably have a bit of fun with his wand that day.

Yeah he would be able to do magic where ever he wants at 17, cursing dudley would be fun :lol:

But why would driving even be an issue, whether at 16 or 17? Harry won't be driving, as he can fly and get around in non-Muggle ways!

Actually I'd like to see JK making some changed about Harry's birthday. It's always, more or less, the same. She could make it be Harry's great day once... although I doubt he'd have a big party..

Actually I'd like to see JK making some changed about Harry's birthday. It's always, more or less, the same. She could make it be Harry's great day once... although I doubt he'd have a big party..
For some reason, I can't see Harry as the big party type. ;) But yeah, the 16th birthday should be just like the rest - it's no different to Harry. (Dudley, however, may start the next book crowing about the Porsche his dad bought him, but to Harry it will be the same.) The 17th is the one that could be bigger - it's when Harry can apparate, the magical equivalent of getting a driver's license.

For some reason, I can't see Harry as the big party type. ;)

I said I doubt it. :)

I don't think a big deal will be made out of Harry's sixteenth birthday. Seventeen? Maybe. There's more to celebrate with his seventeenth birthday, what with him being of age and able to Apparate and all that good stuff.

I'm not sure if Harry would care much about his birthdays, anyway, at least not now. He'll have bigger things to worry about.

I don't know how big Harry's sixteenth will be. The Dursley's are supposed to be treating him better, but that is not going to stop them from spoiling Dudley. They'll probably be giving him an expensive new car and other things, and probably still ignore Harry's.
It's possible that Harry will somehow get to Grimmauld place during the summer. He might get a bit of a party in that case, though he'd still probably be so crushed by Sirius's death that he wouldn't care. He doesn't really seem like the part-type anyway.
And if he does stay at the Dursleys' during his birthday, people will probably send him presents like they have through past summers.

But his seventeenth will definitely be interesting! :agree: He'll be of age, so I expect he'll have some fun with his dear cousin...

I'm not sure if Harry would care much about his birthdays, anyway.
Did he ever?

I dont think turning 16 is that big in the wizarding world and its not like Harry really cares about his birthday
(but he does seem to appreciate cards). I think JK will make a bigger deal of his 17 becasue he then comes of age and knowing Molly, she'll probably fuss over it.

Yeah! That's right. I also think 17 will be much more important. Imagine Harry casting as many 'Expecto Patronus's as possible, apparating in the bathroom continously even when he doesn't have to pee...do whatever he wants. I really admire the age of 17 in the Wizarding World!!

Here's what should happen...

The Dursley's get lured away from the house... call it a months vacation... leaving Harry behind... (Petunia doesn't have to be there I don't think, Its her *home* even if shes not there its still where she "dwells"). perhaps with Mrs. Figg to look in on him (notice they were careful to not let the Dursleys know she was part of the wiz world?) On harry's b-day he wakes up to wonderful smells... big b-day breakfast cooked by Mrs. Weasley... everyone over for a big b-day bash... and at the climax of the party he's presented w/a gift... a portrait of Sirus, so he's not really gone... I think something like that is the only thing that could even start to pull Harry out of his doldrums...

What teen-ager wouldn't love to throw a big bash when the grumps are outta town? And Harry is completely safe there!

I don't think Harry would even want a big party for his 16th. I think he's going to be in that "Leave me alone" mood that summer, and it probably won't subside by July 31st. He'd probably be happy to see Hermione and the Weasleys if anything, but too big would be bad. He would probably think, "They are just doing this to try and cheer me up but this big party is just making it worse... They don't understand!" etc. etc.

..nah I really dont think so, 16 is really only THAT big cuz u can drive at that age. :shrug:

Actually, in America, becoming 16 holds some significance for girls. Anyways, going back to the topic: I've always wondered why they don't really seem to celebrate their birthday. They give each other gifts but they don't seem to throw each other parties in the common room. In fact, Ron and Hermione don't seem to get any gifts during their birthdays. Maybe the reason for that is just that it's trivial and just isn't mentioned in the books.

Well i dont think he will ever have an exciting birthday, 17 maybe up there, but who all will die in the 6th book, so hed be sad and angry about that. If i were Harry id just be happy that i made it this far. A big b-day would be making it to 90 +

True at 17 , he will be able to go out for his appration and being able to use magic outside of hogwarts but i cant see him attacking dudely if he did, hed get in troube due to the secreacy thing. When the Demontors were there it was diffrent

No-one has ever paid particular attention to Harry's birthday and I doubt they'll pick his 16th year to start making a fuss. I'm sure Ron, Hermione et al will still send him presents and that the Dursleys will forget, but I can't imagine a rampaging party at Privet Drive.

Besides, I can't imagine Harry will care much about his birthday. Like everyone has already said, 17 is more important.

By Muggle rules he can start smoking and other things (*nudge nudge*). But I doubt he will.

Will Ron or Hermione be 17? I haven't worked out their ages, but I know Harry should be the youngest because in the Muggle world most people would be turning 17 in their sixth year (well, in sixth form college for the Muggle world). I suppose if they do, it'll be later on so we won't see any partying.

I'm guessing Dudley's school has a sixth form as part of it, since it's quite a posh school. A lot of schools have them as seperate buildings, though, that you have to apply for. And I wonder how he's done in his GCSEs? If he's done badly he won't be able to stay on for sixth form college, and maybe he won't choose to (because you don't have to stay on, even if you've got good GCSEs). Maybe we'll see Dudley getting a job this year.

Oooh, good point Dedalus. :D

Ron will turn 17 in third or fourth term of their sixth year. I wonder what sort of trouble he'll get up to?

Hermione is the youngest, being born in September, so she won't be allowed to pass her apparating test until Christmas in their seventh year, I expect, which is the first major break from classes after her birthday.

:lol: WOOHOO! :birthday: HARRY!.......nah I really dont think so, 16 is really only THAT big cuz u can drive at that age. :shrug:

Drive? In New Jersey you have to wait until 17. But I don't think there will be anything big for his birthday, I don't know about where everyone else is, but in my area guys don't make a big deal about their 16ths, its the girls who throw sweet 16's to rival some weddings, guys usually don't care less.

hermione is the oldest because in school the years go by september to august the 31st i know this because i was born in oct and i was the oldest in my year and in book three hermione says her birthdays in september so she will be able to apparate from september in the next book so she will be able to do magic out of school which will add a new twist to the new book i think

Currently in Florida the driving age is 16, but since we have had so many teenagers die in car accidents we are considering uping the age to 18. So I don't think Harry's birthday is going to be any different than the last 5 birthdays.

I think his 17th birthday will be much more significant. Harry becomes of age, he can hex anyone he likes (as in Dudley) and he can apparate. His 16th won't be as exciting.

But if he lived in Holland, he could drink alcohol legally. ;)

wait...is hermione going to be 16 or 17 years old? i always got the impression that she was the youngest...since her birthday was so close, could she be turning 16? could mcgonagall have brought her up early because she is so smart? and why has harry never even said happy birthday to either of his friends, but gets disappointed if they don't mail him things in the middle of their vacations? urrg...im getting mixed up with the british/american school differences anyway...

in england school year ages are from september the first to augest the 31st so if hermione was 16 in sptember she would be in the year below harry so that means shes 17 in september as i said before im born in october so i was always the oldest in my year so this is a fact so that means hermione is the oldest in her year and harry one of the yougest in his year

Hermione is the youngest of the three. This was confirmed with the release of the "official" CoS timeline with the DVD earlier this year. JKR supervised the writing of the timeline and thus it can be taken as a reliable source.

If you wish to pursue this topic further please do so in this (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=17999) thread.

Now, back on topic. :)

Bah... so boring. Ok, too big would be bad, I agree. So, maybe the Weasleys, Hermione (and maybe her folks) and Lupin. Maybe even Dumbledore, to make the presentation of the painting. Do you realize the burden of pain that would be lifted with such a gift? And guilt, as I am certain that the painting would assure Harry that Sirus bore him no anger... that he understood and appreciated that he was thinking of HIM... otherwise Harry is in a self-hating downward spiral that no good can come of.

it's not that I have a clue about English school-systems, but I thought that you get the Hogwarts letter at your 11. birthday? So she needed to be eleven before going to Hogwarts, meaning that she turns twelve in September. Plus - knowing for so long that she'd go there, it would explain why she's so amazingly well-informed even before she starts being in school. She had a long time to prepare, and who would have done differently? She is muggleborn; probably she was terribly frightenend to fail, just as Harry was in his first year.

And greeneyedmonster - you're so right, I felt the same. I can't remember a single birthday celebration, so he should calm down concerning his own.

Considering that his beloved godfather has just died and he has to be stuck with the Durselys for yet another summer, I doubt Harry will be feeling mcuh spirited to celebrate anything. And if 6th year turns out just as bad or worse (which I'm guessing) I doubt he'll be feeling any better for his 17th birthday either. Assuming that that he makes it past 7th year, Harry might not have a proper birthday until his 18th. But then again, tragedy may strike during the final battle and all his friends may die, which in that will make his 18th, 19th, and 20th birthdays all very unpleasant. hmm...Maybe his 21st? OK, I'm babbling on too much :D

The very reason it *should* be made much of is that it hasn't been in the past! Harry needs something to break the monotony. Something good to happen in the midst of all this misery. And if planned and excecuted correctly... it *could* be a smashing success.

Fluer De Mal, you're close on the birthday thing, but you're forgetting one small detail, you don't have to be 11 before attending, you have to be 11 within a certain amount of time after the start of the new school year, Hermione is within that timeframe. This was stated by JKR, and is often the case in real life schools (I believe typically it is 4-6 weeks after the school year starts also counts as being of age) (IE: as long as you turn 11 by the middle of October, you can attend 1st year at Hogwarts)

In England you can only drive from 17.

I don't think really much will happen in this book for this birthday. Harry won't be of age, and as far as I know, nothing really that interesting happens at that age. Now seventeen, that will be a different story. I don't think that he'll be able to hex the Dursley's, but I think they will be aware of the fact that he'll be of age, and therefore able to use magic.... :elaugh:

you don't have to be 11 before attending, you have to be 11 within a certain amount of time after the start of the new school year, Hermione is within that timeframe.This was stated by JKR, and is often the case in real life schools (I believe typically it is 4-6 weeks after the school year starts also counts as being of age) (IE: as long as you turn 11 by the middle of October, you can attend 1st year at Hogwarts)
Age is far more flexible than that in many English public (read private) schools in the UK. Able pupils can join some way ahead. The age range throughout my own time at boarding school was probably around 4 months difference.

As to his 16th birthday - Legally harry could:

- Buy and drink beer with a meal in a pub
- Join the Armed forces
- Enter or live in a brothel
- Drive a moped on a public road
- Get married w/ the Dursleys consent
- Consent to sexual intercourse
- Buy cigarettes and tobacco
- Make a solo flight in a glider

As to his 16th birthday - Legally harry could:

- Buy and drink beer with a meal in a pub
- Join the Armed forces
- Enter or live in a brothel
- Drive a moped on a public road
- Get married w/ the Dursleys consent
- Consent to sexual intercourse
- Buy cigarettes and tobacco
- Make a solo flight in a glider

Ok lets start a poll how many of these will Harry do over the course of the next book?

I vote : Make a solo flight in a glider :lol:

Those are all of Harry's newly-found freedoms in the Muggle world, though. I doubt he would be concerned with most of those. I can see Dudley, on the other hand, taking full advantage of the fact that he can buy cigarettes and drink beer.

I think Harry will be more excited when he turns 17.

Those are all of Harry's newly-found freedoms in the Muggle world, though. I doubt he would be concerned with most of those.
Actually for H/Hr [and too some extent all wizards living in muggle areas] there is interaction between the two worlds. [If there wasn't half-bloods like Harry would not even exist!] However much Harry is involved with the wizard world he is bound to be shaped by his upbringing. The muggle world is part of his life.

I think Harry will be more excited when he turns 17.
Actually I think it will be a disappointment. He will still have to live with the Dursleys, still not be able to use magic in front of muggles.....He is theoretically given new rights but ones he cannot use...seems more frustrating than the present situation.....

His 18th on the otherhand sees him likely to be able to chose/make a house and life of his own.......providing he is still alive :whistle:

Geez, what a bunch of Snickiters. Can't we just *believe* that something good will finally break Harry's depressing downward spiral? Why don't we focus on all the wonderful things that *could* happen instead of "oh nothing ever has, so nothing will" *Sigh* I believe something good will come. (tho I won't be crushed if it doesn't) Like Ray says in Lethal Weapon IV... "Will it to happen"

C'mon guys... Will It with me!

it owuld be nice is Patunia gave him something pertaining to his mother on his 16th birthday. I can't seeher handing it to him though; she'll probably push it thru the cat flap on his door.

kAONASHI makes a good point does Harry have anything of his parents stuff like wedding rings or will he be given to him by Dumbledore on his birthday

Most excellent idea, Kaonashi.

I had never considered there may be more family heirlooms that could still be coming to Harry. And that would be a really redeeming act for Petunia to give Harry something like that. Perhaps somebody even still has Lily's Charms wand, and it holds a piece of Lily's power in it, and Harry can use ancient magic with Lily's charms wand to vanquish Voldemort. What a fabulous idea :) :tu:

I think it might be mentioned the Dudley and Hermione can drive but that's all.

His 17th birthday could be bigger; however. Don't forget that it's the wizarding world we're talking about; and there 17 is the birthday when you become of age; can do your apparition test etc. So even if it isn't celebrated by anyone; Harry will probably have a bit of fun with his wand that day.

I agree. I don't think sixteen will be a very big deal to Harry, but seventeen will be much more important.

I hope no one dies on his bday!

THANK YOU Kaonashi, Daz, and Sindatur! :clap:

*Thats* the kind of positive thinking we need for Harry! And I hadn't thought about other heirlooms either... surely if something as fragile as a baby survived a wrecked house other things must have, too... the only question is, if they had, why wouldn't he have been given them sooner?

Maybe Petunia was under orders from Dumbledore not to tell Harry any more than what he needs to know. Petunia knows more than waht she's telling, and probably more than what she's telling her husband too. She's afraid now too, she knows that Dumbledore is on the loose; she's seen her son after the dementor attack, and she knows what is at stake. And she realizes that if it wasn't for Harry, her precious son would be babbling in diapers. She's going to do all she can to protect her family. Perhaps a spellbook that Lily left behind with more advanced sheild spells? Lily was very good with charms. Pictures that their parents saved from the wedding? The wand itself? A letter? Lily and James knew that voldemort was seeking them; maybe she wrote a letter to her son about the events in case she died, and gave it to petunia for safekeeping under the condition that it be given to Harry on his 16th birthday. The possibilities are endless....besides, he has already gotten *** cape from his Dad, he has yet to get anything from Lily.

I think the cake's gonna fall on his head, and he's gonna catch fire and he's gonna die. Well, his life keeps getting more miserable.

can it really get even more miserable? he's an orphan, neglected for the biggest parts of his life, the most evil sorcerer in the world is out there to get him and he has to face this battle to safe the world, and his only family-like connection has just died, I mean, ANYTHING more and he's likely to commit suicide. No writer can be so cool towards their children's book (yeah! after all, it's written for kids!) protagonist to burden him even more.
Something good HAS to happen now.

can it really get even more miserable? he's an orphan, neglected for the biggest parts of his life, the most evil sorcerer in the world is out there to get him and he has to face this battle to safe the world, and his only family-like connection has just died, I mean, ANYTHING more and he's likely to commit suicide. No writer can be so cool towards their children's book (yeah! after all, it's written for kids!) protagonist to burden him even more.
Something good HAS to happen now.
Didn't JK say that the next books are not recommended for children under 13, and that they are only going to get darker? I seriuosly doubt anything good is going to happen to Harry.

Maybe Petunia was under orders from Dumbledore not to tell Harry any more than what he needs to know. Petunia knows more than waht she's telling, and probably more than what she's telling her husband too. She's afraid now too, she knows that Dumbledore is on the loose; she's seen her son after the dementor attack, and she knows what is at stake. And she realizes that if it wasn't for Harry, her precious son would be babbling in diapers. She's going to do all she can to protect her family. Perhaps a spellbook that Lily left behind with more advanced sheild spells? The wand itself? A letter? Lily and James knew that voldemort was seeking them; maybe she wrote a letter to her son about the events in case she died, and gave it to petunia for safekeeping under the condition that it be given to Harry on his 16th birthday. The possibilities are endless....besides, he has already gotten *** cape from his Dad, he has yet to get anything from Lily.[COLOR=DarkRed]

okay i just got an idea the wand harry has he can't fight voldy with so what if he used lilys old wand? it would be really powerful because the wand was lilys and she left harry some sort of power when she died.

I would expect something good to happen to Harry for his birthday. Harry does suffer when he's alone with the Dursleys and he has had to put up with to much pain lately. The Order promised to check on him during the summer. Well, check on his birthday.

Sugested gift: seein Moody play peek a boo with Dudley.

Honestly, Harry needs the suport, his friends know it and can give it.

You know what would be really funny, is if Lupin, mad-eyed-moody, Ron, Hermione, the weasley family all went around to the Drusleys for Harrys birthday. He would have the best birthday of his life, if they did that. They would have to get him something good then, perhaps to add insult, they could force the Drusleys to buy all of Harrys school books and equipment for the 6th year at Hogwarts. :evil: :lol:

You know what would be really funny, is if Lupin, mad-eyed-moody, Ron, Hermione, the weasley family all went around to the Drusleys for Harrys birthday. He would have the best birthday of his life, if they did that. They would have to get him something good then, perhaps to add insult, they could force the Drusleys to buy all of Harrys school books and equipment for the 6th year at Hogwarts. :evil: :lol:

Celebrating a birthday getting even is not what most adult people would consider a good idea. But I think is great. Let the Dursleys have it!

In a more serious note: DD is sorry and worried. He´ll be trying to make amends with Harry. Everybody will be worried. They won´t let him feel alone.

As for his 17 birthday. I expect he'll just leave Privet Drive, protection or no protection. Harry's just about had it. Hey, I'm fed up with his stupid uncles! Would be about time.

hhm.. im not sure what hed do 4 his birthday, maybe the Weasleys might invite him out or something, or he might have this big ultimate suprise , and find out that he gets to go and live with Lupin, or Dumbledore or something, i dunno,!!


*my mind works in mysterious ways sometimes* :D

i think dumbledore and lupin will be worried about harry all summer and will take harry away from the dursleys as quick as thay can look what happened last summer when thay ignored him he got angry and acted out and i dont think thay want that this year

OMG Jill! That hass got the be the funniest thing I've heard all day! i can just picture mr Dursley looking thru the peephole, and Moody, wearing that bowler hat, Tonks looking crazy, Mundungus drunk, and Ms Weasley clutching a cake:

Tonks: *grinning* Hi, we came to help Harry celebrate his birthday!

Mr Dursley: *passes out*

Ok, how 'bout this? Harry is presented with his folks old house (carefully restored by none other than Dumbledore himself over the last 16 years). Of course it would have every protection known to wizardkind put on it, and maybe even add a few muggle ones so that there will be something unexpected. And inside are all the little thing rescued from the original house, and all the cool stuff from Sirius' house to boot. *Including* a painting of Sirius! 'course he probably wouldn't get something like that til 17 *sigh*

But seriously, guys, life has got to get better in the next book. J.K. Rowling is *not* Lemoney Snikit... the books can get darker in peril and such while life in general at least slightly improves.

Will something good, people!

Ok, how 'bout this? Harry is presented with his folks old house (carefully restored by none other than Dumbledore himself over the last 16 years). Of course it would have every protection known to wizardkind put on it, and maybe even add a few muggle ones so that there will be something unexpected. And inside are all the little thing rescued from the original house, and all the cool stuff from Sirius' house to boot. *Including* a painting of Sirius! 'course he probably wouldn't get something like that til 17 *sigh*

But seriously, guys, life has got to get better in the next book. J.K. Rowling is *not* Lemoney Snikit... the books can get darker in peril and such while life in general at least slightly improves.

Will something good, people!
I too am waiting for good stuff to happen to Harry! The painting would be nice. I think Harry really needs to get away from the Dursleys. I'm sure he will fight them. He has put up with way more than enough. I hope Moody takes the habit of visiting all the time and of habing aunt Petunia wash his eyeball.

He still has to stay with them during the summer, at leeast until he comes of age, or Voldermort is dead.

Yeah Harry will probably have a good 16th :birthday: .You never know they pick them up for the burrow and the weasleys don't even talk about his birthday and when he gets there....SURPRISE!You never know.Hm.....I wonder if that happened in the movie what would Daniel's expression be....

Gosh, no one has thought of the obvious way for Harry to have a birthday party - at Mrs. Figg's house! :clap: He'll no doubt be very interested in her when he returns for the Summer, and may spend a lot of time over there. Everyone could meet there for a small party and, well, even if he just visited with Mrs. Figg that day and no one else it would probably be the best birthday he's had.

Well, having a better birthday then in the years before isn't too hard, eh? They have been terrible all along the way, so any improvement is likely to look like "the best party ever".

I know! Harry's had a TERRIBLE time hasn't he? Although, if u notice, his birthday has got steadily better as the books have progressed:
Book 1: "...and Harry was left to find the softest bit of floor he could to curl up under the thinnest, most ragged blanket.." Or something like that (I haven't got the ACTUAL book handy)

Book 2: Dobby turns up and it turns out that Harrys friends did care after all (although he did get locked in his room with cold soup) but then the Weasleys rescued him after all!

Book 3: He got cards and stuff from his friends then ended up staying in Diagon Alley for the last few weeks of the holidays all by himself having a great time.

Book 4: He had cards and presents and a secret stash of Birthday cake to tide him over Dudleys diet.

Book 5: Okay, so his birthday wasn't great at all - AND he threw away his presents - but at least he got them, AND he wasn't locked in his room! Then again, Book 5 was horribly dark and a bit depressing so is it any surprise.

I REALLY hope he has a better time next year. Of course we are all overlooking the Scar thing - he'll probably end up going a bit mad cos Volemorts' emotions are affecting him more and more as time goes on. Of course we can but hope. He does deserve a bit of happiness after all!

If he does have a party (which, to be honest, looks a little doubtful - remember the Weasleys are heavily involved with the Order) I think it probably won't happen at the burrow 'cos to be honest the Burrow is, out of all the 'living environments' Harry has experienced, the least secure (tying with Diagon Alley). With the Dursleys and Hogwarts being the safest, closely followed by Grimmauld place. But seriously, can u imagine how Harry would feel if he had to return to Grimmauld place?? I think that it would be torture to him so it wouldn't exactly be the 'Best Party ever' would it? We all know how much Harry loves Hogwarts and how 'at home' he feels there, and given how dangerous things have become, I really do think that Harry will spend part of the Summer at the Castle. Seriously, before you say "Yeah, Right!" think about it - going to Grimmauld Place would be AWFUL - it was bad even when Sirius WAS there - imagine how it would be without!!! He can't stay at the Dursleys all Summer! Surely not - especially as he turns 16 - his days of residence there are numbered! I REALLY don't think Dumbledore will consider the Burrow safe enough so the only other logical choice is Hogwarts Castle - How cool would it be to spend the summer there??

Another point about his birthday - now Voldie is back again maybe the Ministry will allow underage wizards to perform basic and lifesaving magic? After all, the last time Voldemort was 'in power' was when Lily Evans, Snape and the Marauders were young and Petunia was saying how Lily came home turning teacups into whatever-it-was...(what was it again???).

Veq.

Its 17 to drive in england btw! I dont think itll be anything special- but something big could happen on that day, I think maybe a death

I think 17 will be the year a great party happens...as it will be the end of the series...plus if 17 is the age then yeah even more of a reason to celebrate:)

I can see it now:
The Dursely's leaving harry at Ms. Figg's place for the weekend or day or whatever. Ms. Figg goes to make a cake in the kitchen. All the sudden DD appears. He gets a chance to talk with Harry and tell him his O.W.L. results or something(good). Then the doorbell rings and Hermione is there. They talk for a while about grades and bam, the doorbell rings again! Its all the Weasley's(not sure about Percy). The talk and bring goodies. Cue doorbell. Neville and grandma in tow. They talk for a while and Neville says he got to come because of his unexpectedly good grades. Doorbell again, more of the Order minus Tonks and Lupin. Everyone has small trinkets and presents for Harry, some to remind him of parents and Sirius, but nothing too heavy. He gets a really cool picture or soemthing of the like and the doorbell rings again. Tonks and Lupin. They have the portrait of Sirius we had all hoped for. harry sees this and gets just way emotional, but embarrased because he is in front of all these people. Then Sirius cracks a joke and everybody laughs. DD gets up and tells Harry how all these people love him and mushy stuff and everybody hear hears. Then he says that after searching for a long time, he found something for Harry, its Lily's wand. When harry hold it, it does something cool(shoot a rainbow, glitters, or something charm-y) very campy, but really what Harry needs. Then he get told that he get to leave Privet Drive. Happy Birthday Harry! :clap:

P.S. If you think that alll the order and DD won't show, think about it, the Order's main purpose is to defeat LV. harry is the only one who can do that. He safety and sanity are one of their top priorities :eyebrows:

Leaving Privet Drive will be the second-best day of Harry's life. Sadly I REALLY don't think that it will happen before the end of the 7th book. So it won't be a 'Happy Birthday' occasion, more like a 'Happy Day-that-Harry-Potter-saved-the-world' present! LOL

Veq.

the big birthdays are 16,18 and 21 as we wont see him reach 18 or 21 do u think he will he will have a good 16th and have a big party thown by ron and hermione and the weasleys after all he will need some fun so why not celebrate his birthday in style and have a big suprise party for him and he gets a good birthday for once and make him forget his problems for a night and will he recive anything from dumbledore like family heirlooms

For (British) wizards 17 is the key age (in the UK 16 and 18 are real-world landmarks, 21 used to be but is just tradition now) so I doubt Harry's 16th birthday will be that great - especially as he'll still be at Privet Drive and he's got a lot on his mind. I like the idea of everybody whisking him off to a proper party though!

He should have a good birthday this year. Because you know the evil is coming; at least have the poor boy have his fun.

All this talk about Harry's 17th birthday, you guys just might be on to something. Think about it, Harry tells Dudley that on July 31, he'll be able to use whatever magic he wants on Dudley. Harry does this not really wanting to carry out the threats, but just to get Dudley off of his back(with all thats going on in his life with whoever dies in book six, having his last year in school, still having to deal with LV, etc, Harry isnt going to want dudley talking :censored:.) So anyway, Harry tells D about his coming of age, and reminds him of it whenever Dudley gets on his nerves. So its, lets say, the 30th of July, and Dudley does what anyone in his position would do. He goes into Harrys room, finds his wand, and snaps it in half, hoping that it would stop Harry from turning him into a pig. I think this seems very possible, and if it were to happen it would solve the problem of Harry and LVs wand feather, assuming Harry could find another match. Let me know what you think.

the big birthdays are 16,18 and 21 as we wont see him reach 18 or 21 do u think he will he will have a good 16th and have a big party thown by ron and hermione and the weasleys after all he will need some fun so why not celebrate his birthday in style and have a big suprise party for him and he gets a good birthday for once and make him forget his problems for a night and will he recive anything from dumbledore like family heirlooms

This summer he will have Arabella Fig to keep him company.

When he turns 17 he will be "Of Age" and can do whatever magic he wants outside of Hogwarts.

I do not know whether Harry would have a large party because of what has just happened but then a few months will have passed so that is possible. I do like the idea that lily and James may have left him something else for his 16th birthday. That to me sounds pretty reasonable. Just as long as aunt Patunia or Vernon don't spoil it all and have not pawned the stuff away by now.

I don't know whether he will have a big party, but I think that he will finally get to spend a birthday with his friends this time.

I think this time he will get to leave the Dursley's much earlier, and will finally have his friends with him on his birthday.

I am sure that Mrs Weasley will try to give him a big party, like he did for Ron and Hermione being prefects. I don't think it will go over well, but I think she will try.

Reread the last 3 pages. I just did. I have nothing to do with any of the charachters in this book, but the support, friendship, comraderie(sp), and caring all these people felt for Harry just makes my heart swell. I think Harry felt the same thing.The point isn't really the party, but that his freinds are gonna be there for him on his birthday. I hope its kind of just"his day" Not really to think about anything else, however i am sure it will happen, but they can be happy just to be in each other's company. A day to just be thankful that they are alive. :)

So anyway, Harry tells D about his coming of age, and reminds him of it whenever Dudley gets on his nerves. So its, lets say, the 30th of July, and Dudley does what anyone in his position would do. He goes into Harrys room, finds his wand, and snaps it in half, hoping that it would stop Harry from turning him into a pig. I think this seems very possible, and if it were to happen it would solve the problem of Harry and LVs wand feather, assuming Harry could find another match. Let me know what you think.

That is hideous! I truly believe that would be a killing offense. *not* that anyone would *actually* kill him, but as Jafar said in Alladin II "You'd be amazed what you can live through"

I hadn't really thought about Figgy. Betcha Harry takes her up more often on invitations to tea.

It seems like parties for personal things aren't that popular in the books.

Did the Weasley's have a party for Percy when he finished school? It wasn't mentioned that they did.

It also wasn't mentioned about any sort of party when the twins turned 16 or 17.

Harry's friends will at least give him some gift of sort and a card as they have done in the past. But I doubt there will be any party. So sad.

All this talk about Harry's 17th birthday, you guys just might be on to something. Think about it, Harry tells Dudley that on July 31, he'll be able to use whatever magic he wants on Dudley. Harry does this not really wanting to carry out the threats, but just to get Dudley off of his back(with all thats going on in his life with whoever dies in book six, having his last year in school, still having to deal with LV, etc, Harry isnt going to want dudley talking :censored:.) So anyway, Harry tells D about his coming of age, and reminds him of it whenever Dudley gets on his nerves. So its, lets say, the 30th of July, and Dudley does what anyone in his position would do. He goes into Harrys room, finds his wand, and snaps it in half, hoping that it would stop Harry from turning him into a pig. I think this seems very possible, and if it were to happen it would solve the problem of Harry and LVs wand feather, assuming Harry could find another match. Let me know what you think.

As for Dudley's presumed behaviour, this might be right... on the other hand, he just experienced that living together with his cousin is pretty risky for his own health, so he might not wish to destroy the possibilities of rescue, for he must know that nothing except Harry's magic can help him in such cases. And as useless as the wand may seem, it is something special, and even if he cannot force Voldemort down with it, at least Voldemort cannot use his own wand against Harry as well, which is kind of an advantage, isn't it?

It seems like parties for personal things aren't that popular in the books.

Did the Weasley's have a party for Percy when he finished school? It wasn't mentioned that they did.

It also wasn't mentioned about any sort of party when the twins turned 16 or 17.

Harry's friends will at least give him some gift of sort and a card as they have done in the past. But I doubt there will be any party. So sad.


Ahhh... but the story is told from Harry's point of view, so if he wasn't involved, it wouldn't be told... ie the Party for Ron and Hermione... he was there, so it was mentioned.

interesting thought, what would be the story from Snapes point of voew? Or Dumbledores? or Voldemorts?

I guess you are right, Motherbear, if there had been a party for Percy for finishing Hogwarts, Harry wouldn't have been there because he was at the Dursleys. So, it wasn't mentioned.

I doubt if there will be a big celebration for him though. It will probably go along the lines it has the past few years, nothing too spectacular. What can be done for him at the Dursleys?

Can you imagine Dudley driving?!?! That is not going to be fun!

No, I dont think Harry is going to have a birthday party, isnt his birthday during the summer? I dont think his faimly is too fond of celebrating his birthday. I think he is going to have other things to worry about, rather than his birthday, sad.

16 more of a big thing with girls. You know..sweet 16....and all

i dont exactly think a b-day party is gonna b the 1st thing on the list for him.

However, at the age of 16, he will have much more responsibillity, perhaps DD will have him learn some really cool new spells for a present, i would love that! :clap:

There's always *some* mention of Harry's Birthday. Perhaps this summer, Aunt Petunia will soften up and tell Harry what she knows. Certainly not around Vernon or Dudly... hey, maybe Dudly will have to spend the summer w/Aunt Marge because Vernon doesn't want him exposed to the danger of being around Harry? *That* would be a good b-day in itself!

Yikes! Can you imagine spending the summer with Petunia and Vernon without Dudley? They would have him slaving away all day and locked away at night!
But that might give them the opportunity to see that Harry isn't all that bad after all. It also might give them a new outlook on their Dudikins. I wonder if Aunt Marge could keep Dudley on his diet though.

That is if The Dursleys would let him. They would never let other Wizards in their house. One is too many for them. The only way he could do it is at the Weasleys house. At the most they would have a family party with Hermione at the Burrel becasue they don't have that much money.

After his horrific end to his 5th year at school and his 15th year of life, I seriously doubt that Harry would WANT a party. And I think that Ron and Hermione would respect that. I mean, think about it, Harry has just lost Sirius, the closet person besided Lupin, that he ever had to his parents.
Sirius dying is going to be almost as bad as his parents dying a gain, so he's not really going to be feeling very festive.
And I imagine that if the people from the Order were to throw him a suprise party, it wouldn't go down to well.... but I think that they have more respect than that.

. I wonder if Aunt Marge could keep Dudley on his diet though.

Who could if not her??? :evil: :tu:

lol :lol:

I think the Dursley's will either allow Harry to go over to the Weasley's to celebrate his b/day with them or Harry could spend it with the entire Order at the Black House. Maybe Dumbledore might be there too. In any case i think Harry will have the most rocking vacation and b/day in his life. After the warning from most members of the Order to the Dursley's at the end of Book 5, his life may become significantly easier.
WOTCHA HARRY!!

:birthday:

I think it's a high possibility that Harry will get an extroidanary gift for his 16th birthday that will be extremely significant to us and the plot.

For one, a lot of people here seem to have forgotton Harry has not yet gotten over Sirius' death. And until then, all of what used to be cheerful is now going to be exceedingly meloncholy and toned-down. Dumbledore knows this, obviously, since he is the one who is partly responsible for it. It would not be surprising if we find something at Harry's bedroom that his father once owned, Dumbledore once cherished, or some sort of memoribelia of his family....even a parcel that his mother once used. [i]Anything[i] to cheer him up in one way or another, or to keep him pre-occupied from doing anything irrational.

I can't wait :D

I wonder if Aunt Marge could keep Dudley on his diet though.

If anything, I think she would encourage him to break it. She does like a "good sized" man. Dudley might have lost enough weight that he no longer fits into this category. Just a thought.

No one has forgotten how much Harry is hurting. Thats just one more reason for his friends to *be sure* to make this birthday a special one... they can come up with SOMEthing to ease the pain and loss he is suffering right now. Actually, it doesn't matter that its 16, doesn't matter whether 16 is an American thing or not, or a girl thing or not... *its his Day* and he *needs* to feel special.

That is why I am *convinced* that a portrait of Sirius *must* come into play. No matter what *any*one tells him, Harry is wracked with grief... the only one who can help him is Sirius, and the only way for that to be possible is a portrait.

Now for the Dursleys. An idea just popped into my head... what if Petunia has an old diary of Lily's? that would clear up any misgivings that Harry might still have about his father. And here's a possibility (albeit a *very remote* possibility.) We know Dudly is goofing off and getting into trouble at school. We know that Harry is doing fairly well. Wouldn't it be something if for only a moment the Dursleys were angry/ashamed of Dudly and Proud of Harry? Granted... its a long shot... just a thought.

After all the stuff he's gone through, I really hope his 16th birthday is really special for him. Imagine if it was the worst one ever?! *tear*

In my opinion, i think Harry will have a pretty normal 16th birthday. Well, for the exception of finally recieving his OWL's in the mail when they send him his Hogwarts letter, and almost in every book, theysend him his letter on his birthday or really quite near his birhtday. So, he will be getting his results. Other then that, i think Harry wuill spend his birthday at the Dursely's and return to the Weasly's or 12 Grimmauld Place a little later than that. However, now that i think of it. Harry's birthday won't be that exciting. Don't forget he's still getting over Sirius's loss which would be very upsetting for anyone to lose the only father figure that was left in their lives. He will probably still be quite shaken, but let's hope that he will return to his friends soon. As well, if Harry does return to 12 Grimmauld Place, he would probably be filled with sorrow, because the house reminds him of Sirius. So, his summer holiday and his birthday won't be all that great.

it shud be special any 16th bd shud!

After all the stuff he's gone through, I really hope his 16th birthday is really special for him. Imagine if it was the worst one ever?! *tear*

After losing Sirius, I think it will be a pretty bad one...

I noticed almost everyone thinks Harry will still be depressed over the loss of Sirius by the time of his sixteenth birthday. I don't think so. I think he will have moved on to a more vengeful/determined faze that will probably make up most of the book. As for his birthday itself, there won't be a party (obviously, since he has to stay with the Dursleys for the protection), probably just the usual gifts and letters. Overall, however, it will probably be a very good birthday for him considering...

I noticed almost everyone thinks Harry will still be depressed over the loss of Sirius by the time of his sixteenth birthday. I don't think so. I think he will have moved on to a more vengeful/determined faze that will probably make up most of the book. As for his birthday itself, there won't be a party (obviously, since he has to stay with the Dursleys for the protection), probably just the usual gifts and letters. Overall, however, it will probably be a very good birthday for him considering...

Nah. Harry was badly shaken with the news that he must be either victim or killer... I don't think he will be so quick to go to vengeful. He simply doesn't realize that killing to defend oneself or friends is not murder. ie: I could have been a cop... except I didn't believe I could shoot someone if it became necessary. However... then I had children. I would kill or die to protect them, and if it were kill.. I would not feel one jot of shame or grief for the slime who dares to threaten my baby.

If I had been Lily... I would have Avada'd Voldemort in a heartbeat (provided I had the power to back it up)... and not ever felt sorry for it.. even in a place like Azkaban.

Psychologically speaking, Harry would proceed acting as normally as before, except that if anyone started mentioning Sirius again, he would just ignore and start blaming and mourning Sirius again WITHOUT LETTING ANYONE KNOW. Of course, as usual, upto that point, the only sensitive person will do see through it is Hermione. Another good thing is Ron's ignorance. It's also because Ron won't mention about Sirius's death, Harry will find it easier to talk to Ron about other things...And as for Harry's birthday, he would receive presents, eve more than before, as usual. The only thing is that Harry won't eat cakes, reading books, or taking anything else sent to him on his birthday. He'll just throw them to a side and start mourning Sirius's death. Other than that, Harry's life will be pretentiously normal...

***van

If I had been Lily... I would have Avada'd Voldemort in a heartbeat (provided I had the power to back it up)... and not ever felt sorry for it.. even in a place like Azkaban.

It wouldn't have done any good because at that time everyone thought that he was totally immortal. If she had managed, then I think she would have been given a medal rather than thrown in Azkaban.

She was helpless and in a panic mode. The first thing on her mind was to protect Harry and she couldn't think straight. I also think that she was utterly overwhelmed of Voldemort finding out where they live and being there in front of her. I mean people flinch with the mention of Voldemort's name.

It wouldn't have done any good because at that time everyone thought that he was totally immortal. If she had managed, then I think she would have been given a medal rather than thrown in Azkaban.

It wasn't a matter of whether it would do any good... she was a mother protecting her baby. Sometimes you think after you act. And the curses are called unforgivable... it seems pretty absolute to me. But still, even knowing there was no forgiveness, Iwould do it to protect my babies. (I'm in full MotherBear mode, aren't i?)

OK, I doubt this would happen, but I certainly wish it would. The Weasleys, Tonks (extra protection), and Hermione need to take Harry CLOTHES SHOPPING. No, this is not a frivolous girl-urge kicking in, that boy needs to wear something other than Dudley's cast-offs and Vernon's nasty socks! Given that Dudley has been huge for several years now, how can Harry possibly "fit" his hand-me-downs for much longer?

I also think it would be hilarious to have the neighbors start seeing a decently groomed young man and make comments to the Dursley's on his improved appearance. Petunia wouldn't be able to do anything but chew on her tongue.

Come on, just getting to be with his friends for the day would be a huge improvement for Harry...

Y'know... thats the most practical suggestion yet!

OK, I doubt this would happen, but I certainly wish it would. The Weasley's, Tonks (extra protection), and Hermione need to take Harry CLOTHES SHOPPING. No, this is not a frivolous girl-urge kicking in, that boy needs to wear something other than Dudley's cast-offs and Vernon's nasty socks! Given that Dudley has been huge for several years now, how can Harry possibly "fit" his hand-me-downs for much longer?

I also think it would be hilarious to have the neighbors start seeing a decently groomed young man and make comments to the Dursley's on his improved appearance. Petunia wouldn't be able to do anything but chew on her tongue.

Come on, just getting to be with his friends for the day would be a huge improvement for Harry...
So true! JKR READ THIS!!!!!!!! give Harry new cloths"!!!!!!!!!!!

And the curses are called unforgivable... it seems pretty absolute to me.

Then howcome the aurors are allowed to perform them on alleged DEs? I think there have to be a few loopholes in the rule.

Then howcome the aurors are allowed to perform them on alleged DEs? I think there have to be a few loopholes in the rule.
They're not allowed. Ibelieve somewhere in the fourth book, Harry is told that *some* aurors/people believed in "as long as the ends justify the means", do whatever is necessary. However, I believe Harry was also told that mindset was rejected.

I think Harry's 16th birthday will be the best one he will ever remember until he is 18 that is. I mean he will have Ron, Hermione and possibly all the Weasleys including Fred and George (watch out for the mega disaster zone party). They will be able to give Harry presents and cards for the first time in person and not through the post, that will make this 16th birthday very special indeed because he is not use to people wishing him in person a happy birthday.

Well, that's true indeed, but I doubt that Harry will be truly happy though. He might put up a good show on his birthday, his internal feelings will linger Sirius's death. He will have presents alright, but not really happy. And, I don't think Harry will have his birthday in Headquarters either. It's too painful, and noone's gonna celebrate his birthday there. Either Harry'll have it in the Burrow or somewhere in Diagon Ally at Weasly Wizarding Weezzes with the Weaslys, Mad-Eye, Tonks, Lupin, Hermione, Mundungdus, Strugis (about to be released), Shackbolt.

I fancy Harry's celebrating his birthday at the Grangers', which is not likely since it's too dangerous and Dumbledore won't allow it.

***van.

yeah, well, as the Granger's are highly endangered right now, being mugles without any useful protection against Voldemort and their daughter a likely aim for his attacks, they might be protected by Dumbledore anyway, and by this, Harry could celebrate there as well, couldn*t he?

Adele: Will poor Harry be stuck at the Dursleys' all next summer?
JK Rowling replies -> Not all summer, no. In fact, he has the shortest stay in Privet Drive so far.
Considering that Harry leaves the Dursleys shortly after his birthday in all books, if he leaves earlier in Book 6, this could be the first time that Harry can have his birthday IN the wizarding world, for a change.

Just noticed it :)

Considering that Harry leaves the Dursleys shortly after his birthday in all books, if he leaves earlier in Book 6, this could be the first time that Harry can have his birthday IN the wizarding world, for a change.

Just noticed it :)

Good point. Although if he gets chased out of 4PD because of the war, it's unlikely to be a happy birthday. Never rains but it pours for Harry, does it?

His duration at the Dursleys is going to be brief, so it might not be as bad as it could be. But I can imagine Mr Dursley being worse than ever when Harry is sixteen. 'You're old enough to get a job, so stop scrounging of your aunt and me, you rotten layabout!' :lol:.

Speaking of which, is there anybody here optimistic enough to think Dudley has passed his GCSEs? No, me neither. That means he will either have to repeat them... or he will get a job. The only place I can imagine him working is Grunnings. Oh, Mr Dursley would be unbearable.

On a more serious note, there might be some sort of service for Sirius. He was a respected wizard, a member of the Order who died in duty. They can't just let him go without saying 'Bye', can they? It would give Harry the opportunity to think things over. Harry's sixteenth, or thereabouts, might be very reflective. But maybe the Order find it harder to do things that way, and would rather get on with their lives...

His duration at the Dursleys is going to be brief, so it might not be as bad as it could be. But I can imagine Mr Dursley being worse than ever when Harry is sixteen. 'You're old enough to get a job, so stop scrounging of your aunt and me, you rotten layabout!' :lol:.

I don't think the Dursley ever paid for Harry's tuition at Hogwarts though. Harry must have paid it himself, or he didn't have to pay anything at all. Nothing ever mentioned in the book about the fee. Except in the movie version, Vernon said he would never paid "some crackpot to teach him magic tricks". Well, Harry still had punch of gold in the volt anyway...so, he does not have to get any job at all. Dumbledore will never get Harry get out and find a job in the Muggle world, it's too dangerous...

***van.

I don't think the Dursley ever paid for Harry's tuition at Hogwarts though. Harry must have paid it himself, or he didn't have to pay anything at all. Nothing ever mentioned in the book about the fee. Except in the movie version, Vernon said he would never paid "some crackpot to teach him magic tricks". Well, Harry still had punch of gold in the volt anyway...so, he does not have to get any job at all. Dumbledore will never get Harry get out and find a job in the Muggle world, it's too dangerous...


I'm not talking about tuition fees, since I don't believe Hogwarts has one. I was talking about the Dursley complaining about the clothes and food they buy for him (and still they don't buy much). I'm not saying Harry should get a job. If Dudley does, though, it will be just another way for the Dursleys to consider him vastly superior to Harry, and say so.

Im not sure, is it common in England for sixteen year olds to have a job? I know that it is in the usa, but over here in Belgium it isnt, we go to school till 5pm. We have summer jobs though.

Im not sure, is it common in England for sixteen year olds to have a job? I know that it is in the usa, but over here in Belgium it isnt, we go to school till 5pm. We have summer jobs though.

After you've taken your GCSEs you can get a job, rather than going to college.

Actually, though... people are usually sixteen when they take their GCSEs. Dudley would be only fifteen in OOPT, wouldn't he? But, then, Harry was fifteen and he took the OWLs, which are the magical equivalent... I don't get this... perhaps Harry has a late birthday, and most people would become twelve during the course of their first year, making the average student sixteen when he or she takes the OWLs.

Well, anyway, if Dudley failed his exams, Mr Dursley would probably just think he was less sissy than Harry.

Poor Harry. At least since he isn't staying at Privit Drive that long this time, I figured he might get a nice birthday among friends this year. But people are already predicting the worst.

Actually, though... people are usually sixteen when they take their GCSEs. Dudley would be only fifteen in OOPT, wouldn't he? But, then, Harry was fifteen and he took the OWLs, which are the magical equivalent... I don't get this... perhaps Harry has a late birthday, and most people would become twelve during the course of their first year, making the average student sixteen when he or she takes the OWLs.

I remember when I was at school that I was only fifteen when I actually sat exams - my birthday's August 10th, so I was always one of the youngest in my year. So July 31st probably would count as a late birthday for school year purposes as well, even at Hogwarts. They seem to follow the same term times as real life.

I can't remember when Dudley's birthday is supposed to be off-hand, but he was in Harry's year at school before they went off to Smeltings and Hogwarts. So he must have been taking his GCSEs while Harry was doing OWLs. He probably didn't get great grades, but don't you have to do really, really badly these days to actually fail?

I'm not talking about tuition fees, since I don't believe Hogwarts has one. I was talking about the Dursley complaining about the clothes and food they buy for him (and still they don't buy much). I'm not saying Harry should get a job. If Dudley does, though, it will be just another way for the Dursleys to consider him vastly superior to Harry, and say so.

"He's had his name down ever since he was born!"

I don't think there's any tution to be paid... can you imagine the Weasly's be ing able to pay a tution for 5 kids at once? Not happening. Yes, he had to pay for his books... but I don't think tution is an issue. I also don't see Dudly working, not even at Grunnings, he's always been handed everything he desires on a silver platter, I can't imagine him being *willing* to work.

I hope Haary has a GREAT birthday.He will not be over Sirius death but that does not mean he would not enjoy a party as he has never had one. I think he would have fun.

This is my first post to this forum, but i have been keeping up with the site for a little while now so here goes.................

I have this feeling we are all underestimating Harry's resolve. Yes he did just lose somebody close to him, Sirius was like Harry's big brother or an uncle ( I don't buy into the father figure representation of Sirius), but I think the end of book five transformed Harry in a couple of ways:

1. He learned what it is to love. How did he do this? Well many people finally learn what true love is when they lose somebody they love. That is why Sirius had to die, so Harry could learn to love.

2. Harry finally let go of all the anger that had been building up all year long. Now I realize that Harry gets angry about Sirius at the end, when somebody mentions him but that is before he talks to Luna.

So from the end of OOTP, I see Harry with this outlook, he will be a little sad, and worried, Sad because of Sirius's death, and worried because of the prophecy, but i think he will be less angry.

Now on to Harry's birthday, I think it would be a nice show of affection towards him for his friends to have a party for him, and i think he would appreciate it. Yes he is sad about Sirius, but he will like regardless because he now knows that his friends and the order showed their love to him at the end of the story, he will definately welcome this contact with the people he has grown to love, for now he realizes they are his family.

Harry might get lucky? ;)

I don't think JKR can start out the book with anything so serene as a nice party with a calm rational Harry who feels love for his family of friends. Too many readers will call it boring.

I hope Fred and George give him a box of those fireworks.

Harry might get lucky? ;)

That ain't right. just ain't right.

Yep that will never happen.As JK has said he will get more kisses before the end of book 7 but there will be no sex for Harry As its a kids book.Lets just hope he has a good day and what ever happens after that he can allways look back and think he had at lest 1 great birthday.

What a great idea. I might as well say that Ron and Hermione will organize a surprise party for him at the Burrow or Grimauld Place (well written?) (sorry if not). But I don't think that it will be held at Hogwarts, which might be a great idea.

I hope Harry will have the best birthday ever in the sixth book. =]

No doubt he will! He is now of legal age to go into a restuarant and by alchol with a meal. that's how i celebrated mine...in pizza hut.

But seriously, i hope he has a bit of a bash though i doubt it will be much.

I'm not sure that 16, 18 and 21 are the big B-days outside of the USA. One of my coworkers comes from Mexico, and they are planning a big party called a Quinceañera for her daughter's 15th birthday. As JKR is from the UK, there might be ages there that are more significant. Don't many kids in the UK leave school at 16, to either work or go to a 6th Form school or a college to prepare for university--I'm not sure, as I have only had one close friend from the UK, and this is what she told me. I know you can drink legally younger than 21 in many places,including the UK I believe.

as much as i want harry to have a great 16th birthday i doubt he will. if he is thrown a party it could be crashed. or he'll sulk through it. i also think that a portrait of sirius would be great, but it wouldnt help harry "get over" his death, it would just be a false thing for harry to, idonno, cling to. harry needs to first deal with it and then get a portrait (christmas?)

i think that for the first time ever, harry will actually enjoy his birthday. not at Grimwald place, maybe at the burrow. the book will have to start depressing because its harry dealling with sirus' death, there will have to be something to lighten up some part of the first few chapters. a big birthday seems like the perfect idea.

I hope he has a party. He will have left the Dursleys by then (JKR said it will his shortest stay yet. So it has to be less than four weeks. He returned to Little Whingeing on the first of July so will be somewhere else by the thirty-first.)

A really great party at Grimmauld Place could be fun with Mrs Black shrieking in the background as F&G's fireworks whizz around. And just for the day he could stop grieving for Sirius.

I don't except the Dursleys to be any nicer to Harry, and the OOTP is way too busy for stuff like parties....
But it's possible that if he has to leave Privet Drive again, Ron and Hermione could throw one for him.

Only think Harry will look forward to will be being able to leave the Dursleys Dumbledore said that he only needed to return to the Dursleys hom once a year fo the enchantment (thingi) to stay upon Harry

I don't think Harry will care how old he is, as long as he is away from the Dursleys. Also, Ron's b-day is in March, and Harry didn't throw him a party. But, I hope he has a party, he really deserves one.

16 is the legal age for sex in England. I'm not saying Harry will get laid but it could be the turning point in his views on girls.

We don't really know what they do for Ron and Hermione's party's. Who knows, maybe they had a party and JKR just didn't write about it. I think Harry will have a party, because he will definetly be away from Privet Drive byt hen, and I can't see his first birthday he's spent with his friends passing unnoticed. I really hope he gets one.

I can see the Order going to get him on his Birthday. Making a huge scene to celebrate. I can just see the Dursley's faces now. The horror!! :)

Um, I guess it's possible but I don't think JKR would put it in unless it moves the plot along in some way.

The mere fact that Harry will have his shortest stay so far at the Dursley's will be the best b-day present yet. If he is actually going to be with his friends on his birthday there is no reason to think that they won't have a party for him and I think that would make his day!

I would love to read about a way cool sweet sixteen Harry birthday bash! I think they might celebrate at Gimmuald Place 12 though definately not at the Dursley's.

That'd be cool... but I doubt it

I reckon his 16th will be special, as he hasn't had many great birthdays so far. There should be a big party for him with everyone there (Apart from Siruis :upset: ). It would be great if Dumbledore did give him some sort of heirloom, but Harry doesn't seem to be doing too badly for really great things just now does he? Firebolt, Invisibility cloak, Marauders map.... ;)

Don't forget that Jo has revealed that in book 6 Harry will have his shortest stay in Privet Drive yet. In the other books he has left there shortly after his birthday. maybe this time he will be "rescued" before his birthday and have a proper birthday party at wherever the new headquarters of the Order is (I think they may have to clear out of 12GB). He deserved a proper party after all he's been through, with his friends around him and presents and the rest. Whether he is in the mood for it is another story but Jo did say he would be mastering his feelings a bit more now.

Don't forget that Jo has revealed that in book 6 Harry will have his shortest stay in Privet Drive yet. In the other books he has left there shortly after his birthday. maybe this time he will be "rescued" before his birthday and have a proper birthday party at wherever the new headquarters of the Order is (I think they may have to clear out of 12GB). He deserved a proper party after all he's been through, with his friends around him and presents and the rest. Whether he is in the mood for it is another story but Jo did say he would be mastering his feelings a bit more now.
I don't think that they will clear out of Grimmaul Place, I think Harry will inherit Sirius' estate including the house. Sirius offered the place to the Order, him being gone wouldn't change anything especially if Harry inherits the place. I think that Harry will have a birthday party and it will be held there. Whether he will enjoy it or not is another question.

I don't think the birthday will be that big. Unless Harry manages to get to Grimmauld Place earlier than usual. And besides; he'll be so depressed with Sirius' death that he wouldn't care.


JKR said that this would be Harry's shortest stay at the Dursleys. So yeah.

I think Harry's friends will throw him his first ever birthday party. And since the Dursleys have been told to be nice, they'll probabaly acknowledge the day and give Harry a cake and a present that is better than socks and a coat hanger, but not as expensive as the things that Dudley gets.

I don't think they will leave Harry at Privet Drive for long. He'll be out of there in a couple weeks.
Will they throw a party for him at 16? Depends on what is going on. I think that the 17th birthday will be more important and party-worthy. Wizards come of age at 17, and Harry will still have all of Book 7 to be a full-fledged 17-year old wizard. I expect something 'small and intimate' with Ron, Hermione, Weasley's and members of the Order.

I don't think they will leave Harry at Privet Drive for long. He'll be out of there in a couple weeks.
Will they throw a party for him at 16? Depends on what is going on. I think that the 17th birthday will be more important and party-worthy. Wizards come of age at 17, and Harry will still have all of Book 7 to be a full-fledged 17-year old wizard. I expect something 'small and intimate' with Ron, Hermione, Weasley's and members of the Order.The only problem with his 17th birthday will be that the war is in full swing. I think circumstances will work toward a big party for his 17th birthday, but events will prevent it from hapening. 16 would be the best time for him to have a full blown birthday party.

So he must have been taking his GCSEs while Harry was doing OWLs. He probably didn't get great grades, but don't you have to do really, really badly these days to actually fail? The 2004 pass rate was 98%!

JKR said this will be Harry's shortest stay at the Dursleys'. He will probably be with the Order or the Weasley's (wherever either of them will be) when it comes time for his birthday. But is 16 as big a year in Britain as is it is in the U.S.?
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Remeber that harry has a short stay at dursleys his shortest yet. Jk said it herself mabe he will spend his birthday with his friends. THat would help him so much because he has a lot of things to think about not only sirius but other things he most likely dosent want to see the reality of. Harry may get a good b-day. ANd btw how do we know that harry wont live to see his 18th or 21st birtday only jk knows what willhappen to harry. He oculd very well make it to those ages. Whos says that he has to beat voldemort during his school days he could fight him after he graduates afterall he wont be able to be protected to wellt hat way. Like i said harry needs something happy to happen mabe a b-day party will be it. Mabe they will invited the DA memebers

I don't think that they will clear out of Grimmaul Place, I think Harry will inherit Sirius' estate including the house. Sirius offered the place to the Order, him being gone wouldn't change anything especially if Harry inherits the place. I think that Harry will have a birthday party and it will be held there. Whether he will enjoy it or not is another question.
For Harry to inherit 12GP he will have to prove that Sirius is dead, which will not be easy seeing there is no corpse. Unless Sirius left a will leaving it to Harry, it will probably go to the Mayføys, if they can find it :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: !!

It would be cool if Harry was aloud to have a friend over on his b-day...even if they weren't nessesarly allowed in the house...i'd still be fun.

JK did say he would be leaving for a more pleasant reason than previous years, what better than a birthday party? It would be really nice for Harry since he just lost Sirius, he'll need some cheering up. But, Harry has been wanting to be alone so maybe a big party isn't such a good idea.

I don't exactly see Harry having a party... just there with Hermione, Ron, and the family... It would be good for him to spend his 16th birthday with his friends... the first one he's ever spent with friends, for that matter.

Like others have said, turning sixteen won't be that special. But once Harry turns seventeen he's probably going to have alot of fun. Dudley will be very sorry that he tormented Harry all those years.

Like others have said, turning sixteen won't be that special. But once Harry turns seventeen he's probably going to have alot of fun. Dudley will be very sorry that he tormented Harry all those years.
i agree, in the wizarding world 17 is when all the fun starts, but all the same, i hope Harry gets something special for his b-day

Well, I don't know what's in store for Harry's 16th birthday but I know what card I'd be sending him if I were one of his friends!

Anyone know Gary Larson's cartoons? There's one in there of a stag with a target board tattooed on his chest, and a couple of his friends are with him; the caption is 'Bummer of a birthmark, Hal'. I remember seeing this one on the shelves a couple of years back.

It's a bit close to the bone but I could just see Fred and George picking this one for him, pointing out that the mark is in the wrong place...or is my sense of humour just too warped?!

I think Harry will have the same boring lonely birthday he's ever had. In the wizarding wolr 17 seems to be when you became olderage and you are allowed to use your magic whenever you wish...

I think Harry's 17th birthday is the most important since that's when he's officially going to be considered of age. However, when he turns 16 in the next book, I'm sure he'll be celebrating with his friends. He's leaving the Dursley's before his birthday this time and it'll be interesting to see if he gets thrown a party. He needs a party after what he's been through!

I hope he gets a decent party but i think his big party will be for when he is 17

Harry's pleasant reason to leave privet drive this time could very well be a birthday party being thrown for him by his friends. This would be very different and would probably make Harry feel a little uncomfortable, but being 16 now I'm sure he'll be able to handle it.

I think they will make a bigger deal about his 17th birthday. I totally agree with WeasleyIsOurKing because when you come of age it's such a big deal. I mean look how Fred and George acted in the 5th book. But apparation would be fun and Harry is a very skilled and we can tell he will be a very powerful wizard. So apparating and all that would be easy for him. But I think his 17th year he'll be more busy getting ready for NEWTs from the beginning. We all know how Hermione is. She'll get the them started early.

Well, I don't know what's in store for Harry's 16th birthday but I know what card I'd be sending him if I were one of his friends!

Anyone know Gary Larson's cartoons? There's one in there of a stag with a target board tattooed on his chest, and a couple of his friends are with him; the caption is 'Bummer of a birthmark, Hal'. I remember seeing this one on the shelves a couple of years back.

It's a bit close to the bone but I could just see Fred and George picking this one for him, pointing out that the mark is in the wrong place...or is my sense of humour just too warped?!

That is so funny! :rotfl:

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A birthday celebration of some kind would definitely qualify as a "much pleasanter reason" to leave privet drive. Or maybe he will leave to have Occlumency lessons with DD or Lupin. Anyway, if he's left Privet drive by the time his birthday rolls around I think he will get a birthday party (or at least something closer to a birthday party than what he would get at Privet Drive).