Book Five Predictions: New and Recurring Characters

Ok, this thread is for discussing who you think will return in Book five and what sort of new characters maybe introduced. Do you think we will see more Death Eaters? More Hogwarts teachers?

Do you think we'll see any named characters make an appearence in the Order of the Phoenix?

I for one think we'll see the Dementors make a strong re-appearence as allies of Voldemort, and maybe we'll also see the introduction of the giants, which I am really hoping we do, because they would be very interesting to see described in print.
Also, what about the Dragons? Do you think they could be used as a secret weapon of either Dumbledore or Voldemort? They are very powerful and could quite possibly turn the tide in any war.

Also, the house elves. These creatures appear to be gifted very powerful magic. They could likely be unlikely allies of Dumbledore and Harry in the event of an invasion of Hogwarts by Voldemort and the Death Eaters?

So, what do you guys think?

I think we will see the dementors and giants in the next book. I think we may be introduced to some new magical creatures as well.
I think in the next book, we will find out who are allies and stuff and which magical creatures will side with who.
Dragons, maybe..Charlie may do well to help out with that.

It is obvious that Mrs Figg, Fletcher, Lupin and other members of the old gang will play an important role. We'll probably know more about Death Eaters. And I'm sure that dementors will come back.

I think we could perhaps see Firenze and the Centaurs return. Firenze made it very clear in PS that he stands against Voldemort; even at the cost of tradition, and I think there are many other centaurs that agree with him.

Then, I think we'll see the 'old crowd:' Sirius, Lupin, Mrs Figg, Mundungus Fletcher, Moody, and those who havn't been revealed yet.

Then, and this is only a gut feel I have, we may see some form of 'champion' introduced. A character that has great power (on par with Dumbledore), is a highly skilled Auror, and knows something of warfare. This character would probably then teach the students how to survive in combat situations. The main reason I think this is because the book is crying out for a character like that.

Other than that, we may see Vampires or Dragons return. Then, of course, the Dementors and Giants will be there.

Oh, I think the Lestranges will be vital characters. I believe Azkaban will be opened soon, and they're gonna get out, and then all hell's gonna break loose. They are, without a doubt, Voldemort's most faithful servants, and who knows what kind of damage he could do with them on his side.

I'm looking forward to finding out more about the "old crowd". I think Arabella Figg has had something to do with Harry's life prior to Hogwarts. Lupin should make a return. I think we'll also find out more about the Death Eaters and who they are.

I fear the dementors will leave Azkaban to go to Voldemort. With no dementors at the prison, all the bad guys will be free to leave, including any Death Eaters there.

Yes, Laurel, I agree. That's exactly what I think is going to happen.

What shape do you think the imprisoned Death Eaters will be in if they have the ability to leave? PoA says that if a wizard is left with a dementor too long he eventually loses his power. Sirius was there 12 years, but had an advantage (imho) in that he knew he was innocent and that it allowed him to keep his sanity. Ah..that's another thing. It also says that most of them go crazy. Just think, a bunch of insane Death Eaters being let loose on the wizarding community. With or without magical powers, that would be total chaos. How many of them have survived Azkaban? Surely after all those years some of them would have died. And noone really knew how many there were, except Voldemort. :devil: Ok, I think I'm done rambling now.:p

I am really interested in the new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher. They really have been running through them, and now with all the dark arts going on, just think how important is. Also, because of all of the dark arts, it is probably even harder for them to find another teacher. Dumbledore had to use Lockhart and then Moody, so it really must be bad. They say that it is going to be a girl, and personally, I can't wait to see how cazy she is. How much worse can you get? A villain, a fake, and an escaped convict that was vital to Voldemort's return. Nope, it's going to be really hard to top that.

I also agree that there will be a return of the giants and dementors. Remember what Professor Trelawney said. Voldemort will be back more terrible than before. Just think of what he will try to do. As for the Dragons, I have been thinking about that, too, and I think that Voldemort will probably try to use them. I hope that roast him for us. Finally, the centaurs. I am with LewsTherin. I mean, Firenze helped Harry before and defied the centaur ways. I'm sure that he will help again.

The return of the Death Eaters will be a big problem. I agree with Jedily that it will be tough. However, do you think that Voldemort will be able to help them? As for the Lestranges, perhaps they were able to also think of one thought, how they were not able to help Voldemort, or something like that. Dementors are not able to suck out thoughts like that, and I feel that the Lestranges have that capability.

Lastly, the old crowd. Personally, I believe that the Order of the Phoenix somehow pertains to Arabella, Lupin, and Sirius. If that is correct, we should be seeing a lot about them.

I think Susan Bones will be important. I may remember this wrong, but the Bones family Hagrid mentions are supposed to be her grandparents, right? She hasn't made an appearance since the sorting, and she has to have a part sometime if JKR connected her with a family who got killed by Voldie. Maybe she'll become a friend of Harry's.

Susan Bones probably will be more important. I believe that the "Old Crowd" will be in the next book. Since 4 sort of left you hanging and wondering after Harry saw the scrying thing in DD room. Also I wonder about Cho. Do any of you think JK will change or edit anything after her insident with the Cho lady who was deported?

I think Rita Skeeter will return, though I don't want her too! :angry:

In addition to all the other suggestions, I look forward to possibly seeing Krum pop up now and again.

I'm also curious about Hermoine's parents - I'd like to see us visit them somehow (just to see how Voldie's terror may affect muggles.)

Oh - and I'd like to see more extended family be incorporated in the novels. You know, maybe meeting Ron's accountant uncle, or some more of Neville's family (especially considering that they may be ready for revenge in the name of Neville's parents).

Also, I'd like to see the real Moody come back, just to see what he's really like.

I think that Fleur will return as a recurring character.

As for new characters, I think Ravenclaws will become more important (maybe a class with them).

I also think we'll see at least one more gryffindor fifth year girl... named Amanda. Just a hunch..:evil:

Yeah, Da da -- I can't wait to see what Fleur's up to in the next books. I think she'll come to work at Hogwarts, as JK mentioned it in book four.

I also want to know more about Mundungus Fletcher, Dedalus Diggle, and Archie (if he turns out to be a bigger character). The Old Crowd should be interesting :grin:

I think the House Elves will be a very important force in fighting the dark side. They have a very powerful type of magic that could really help. Also, there are more house elves that belong to Albus Dumbledore than anyone else, and Dumbledore is the biggest good guy of all (we think), so they could definitely be employed to help. Also, in the first book, Dumbledore saw himself in the Mirror of Erised with socks. Maybe his strongest desire is to somehow free all of the house elves and use them to help the good side.

Originally posted by Dobby and Winky
I think the House Elves will be a very important force in fighting the dark side.But of course! What would the dark side do without their clean sheets and homecooked meals?!? :grin:

Seriously, though, I completely agree with you. Dobby showed his powers in CoS, by blocking the barrier to the Hogwarts express, and Winky showed her powers by the spell she performed to bind Crouch Jr. to her. There's more coming from them, I'm positive. ;D

Originally posted by Alex
I think Susan Bones will be important. I may remember this wrong, but the Bones family Hagrid mentions are supposed to be her grandparents, right? She hasn't made an appearance since the sorting, and she has to have a part sometime if JKR connected her with a family who got killed by Voldie. Maybe she'll become a friend of Harry's.

I was beginning to wonder it anyone would ever notice this. I noticed the connection the last time I read Book 1, but I had brought it up anywhere yet, nor have I seen it mentioned before. I don't know if it is just a coincedence or not, but I noticed in the movie, Susan Bones was the only non-vital character to be shown during the sorting. Either they just choose a person that was sorted in the book to show in the movie just randomly so Ron could comment on something, or they were asked by Rowling to leave her in for some reason hoping we would notice.


Originally posted by Dobby and Winky
Also, in the first book, Dumbledore saw himself in the Mirror of Erised with socks. Maybe his strongest desire is to somehow free all of the house elves and use them to help the good side.

I think this is a very interesting point (and something I can't beleive I missed). I am not saying I don't want them to be freed, but can't the house elves be just as effective without being given clothes? The house-elves have very powerful magic of their own, but can only use it with permission of their owner. Dumbledore would give that permission in a heartbeat to do what they gotta do. If the house elves-left though, imagine how many cooks and cleaners they would have to hire to replace the elves, and what wizard or witch wants to do that job? OK, well maybe if Dumbledore set them free, maybe they would do a Dobby, and work for Hogwarts without being "owned" by Hogwarts. After all, they all supposedly like their jobs and would never want to leave, but would probably help Dumbledore with anything because of their dedication.

(Sorry bout my ramblings, I will stop for now....)

Originally posted by pasalita
In addition to all the other suggestions, I look forward to possibly seeing Krum pop up now and again.

I'm also curious about Hermoine's parents - I'd like to see us visit them somehow (just to see how Voldie's terror may affect muggles.)

Oh - and I'd like to see more extended family be incorporated in the novels. You know, maybe meeting Ron's accountant uncle, or some more of Neville's family (especially considering that they may be ready for revenge in the name of Neville's parents).

Also, I'd like to see the real Moody come back, just to see what he's really like.

Ditto on what you said, especially Neville. Between his parents' tragedy and seeing him stronger in Book 3 when overcoming his fear and beating the boggart in Lupin's class, I think there is a definite potential for him to be a stronger character and to be an additional asset in the fight against Voldemort. :)

Maybe there will also be new characters introduced in Book 5 who will be some of James and Lily's friends, those who gave Hagrid photos of Harry's parents for Harry's album. If Dumbledore wants the 'old crowd' informed of Voldemort's return, obviously there has to be others. :)

I also agree on those who mention the elves. With a powerful magic of their own, and Harry and Dumbledore's kindness toward them, those will go a long way in their roles with helping Harry fight Voldemort.

I want to see Viktor Krum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

And Lupin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But, I heard in someplace that there would be a Vampire......I bet the vampire is a good guy.......


:angel:

Well Lupin is definitely coming back, and I'd also like to see Viktor Krum again. Like others have said, I think the house elves and the giants will play important roles. The house elves will be on the good side, but the giants side isn't as clear. They are generally seen as bad and frightening, but then Hagrid is part giant so there might be more good ones like him. As always, there will be a new Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher. I think it might be Fleur (or she might be it in one of the future books). I have a feeling she'll be coming back, and it seems logical for her to return in the DADA position. The whole rumor about a vampire is interesting too. I could easily imagine JKR writing the vampire in as a good character. Look at what she did with the traditionally scary werewolf! I would also really like to see more of the centaurs. We haven't seen a lot of them in the books so far, but they seem like really cool characters. ;D

well, I've heard that the new DADA teachers is Arabella Figg....mentioned by Dumbledore as part of the "old crowd" in book four......JKR admitted that this Arabella Figg is Mrs. Figg, the old lady w/ many cats that the Dursleys used to leave Harry with.....in book 1 she is mentioned......Besides, there will be woman DADA teacher, so it will problably be her......

The books say that Azkaban drives wizards insane and that they lose their powers, but they also say that a wizard has never escaped from there. So then how do they know that a wizard loses his powers? I mean when Azkaban is liberated by Voldemort, all his followers that are in there could come out with their power fully intact, even if their minds aren't. I think those DeathEaters could be more dangerous than the rest because they really have nothing to lose, especially with the Dementors being on Voldemort's side.

I too believe the house elves could be valuable assets even without freedom. They pretty much have free reign in Hogwarts so they could be unofficial watchdogs (for lack of a better term). Keep Dumbledore informed of things going on in the castle. We already know that Dobby will do anything for Harry and Dumbledore.

There should -- and must -- be more Remmie :o ! Remmie, Remmie, Remmie *bursts into a song*...

Ahem. I'm guessing that since there'll be more darkness, there will be Dementors and Death Eaters everywhere.

I hope Bill and Charlie make a return; we've only see them briefly so far.

Arabella Figg will be a new and interesting character to discover. All the "who", "what", "where", "when" and "why"s must be revealed about her.

It would be nice to see some more James and Lily. We'll certainly hear more about them, but if Harry could talk to them properly for once, instead of being in a rush with portkeys...

Um... Percy. He is going to have to make a choice. A life-threatning one at that. So, that'll be great to see. Where his heart really lies.

~Jen.

Speaking of James and Lily, I'm hoping that we'll get to meet more of their old friends. You know, the ones that Hagrid mailed to get photos for Harry. Overall, I'm itching for more history on the couple.

Here is the list of people I think will come back and be important:
1.Lupin
2.Fudge
3.The dementors
4.The giants
5.All the peps in Azkaban (Because they'll all be set free)
6. Mrs. Figg
7.Fletcher
8.Fleur
9.Krum
10. The real mad-eye moody.

I can't think of anyone else right now, but I do think that the dementors will play a SUPER important role because they will join Voldemort.

I think the people mentioned as part of 'The Old Gang' will definately have important appearances in the next book. Add to that the dementors and people in Azkaban, Cornelius Fudge, Mr. Weasley, the giants, death eaters, Percy and the new DADA teacher.

Originally posted by LewsTherin
Then, and this is only a gut feel I have, we may see some form of 'champion' introduced. A character that has great power (on par with Dumbledore), is a highly skilled Auror, and knows something of warfare. This character would probably then teach the students how to survive in combat situations. The main reason I think this is because the book is crying out for a character like that.

Somehow, I have a funny feeling that this character has already been mentioned in the series, and is going to be the DADA teacher: Arabella Figg. After all, looking at the "old crowd"; Albus Dumbledore, one of the greatest wizards of the past century or so; Sirius Black, who if I remember correctly from PoA was a highly respected wizard, and an Auror, Remus Lupin, who must have extensive DA experience, again from PoA; it seems that the old crowd is quite powerful, and versed in the Dark Arts, and Defense against them. It stands to reason that Arabella Figg is in the same boat.

As for other recurring characters, I'm sure that Madame Maxime will appear, most likely on a mission with Hagrid. Ginny Weasley should show up more, and I have a sneaking suspicion that Percy will become a Death Eater. Fudge will most likely leave as MoM, and the post will be up for grabs. I think Dumbledore may become interim MoM, while Mr. Weasley and Percy vie for the job.

Also, the character I'd most like to see developed is Neville. It seems like his issues with classes aren't all-encompassing; he's quite good at Herbology. Maybe it is because of him seeing his parents tortured? After all, I think that more than the Cruciatus Curse was used on them. If charms and Potions were involved, maybe that can account for his difficulties in those classes? Ooh! Sudden leap of reasoning: is it possible that one of the Death Eaters who tortured the Longbottoms was Severus Snape? After all, Neville is mortally afraid of him (see the boggart incident.) Could this be a subconsious reaction?

What About Nott the Deatheater in the sorting mcgonnagle calls out Nott :devil:

Ooh, I never thought of that o.O

Originally posted by Alizeseeker27
Here is the list of people I think will come back and be important:
1.Lupin
2.Fudge
3.The dementors
4.The giants
5.All the peps in Azkaban (Because they'll all be set free)
6. Mrs. Figg
7.Fletcher
8.Fleur
9.Krum
10. The real mad-eye moody.


I agree with that, but I think maybe also there will be something to do with the order oif the phoenix. And I bet that the Malfoys, all of them, will play a quite large part.

Most everyone seems to agree on who will be returning in Book 5 & it all seems logical. I am very interested to hear more about Arabella Figg. In Sorcerer's Stone she is described as an old lady but this is from Harry's point of view. I wonder how old she really is, or whether she just appears old in the Muggle world. I also want to address the theory that Percy will join the Death eaters. He is certainly not the most lovable of the Weasleys but he probably feels he has to keep up with or surpass his older brothers. There is nothing basically wrong with desiring to achieve, or in setting one's goals high. But Percy is immature & hasn't yet grown in wisdom. As to his going over to the dark side...I doubt it for the reason stated by Ron in Sorcerer's Stone, that there wasn't a witch or wizard who went bad who didn't come from Slytherin House. Let's hope Percy doesn't set a precedent.

Well, im all for voting that Arabella Figg is going to be the new DADA teacher. Its the option that makes the most sense. Fleur Delacour did say that she wanted to get a position at Hogwars to improve her english etc., but as the new DADA teacher?
Firstly, she appears to be far too young. At her age, she would have been a small child when the dark arts were being thrown about madly. I would think that a teenager, although almost an adult, would not ha ve as much experience that would be essential to teaching the dark arts. Age brings wisdom, and i think that the teacher would have been a person that had been active during the time of Voldemort would have a far better knowledge. You can be taught a lot, but essentially, experience is the best teacher.
Secondly, i would have thought that if she had gone to Durmstrang, she would have a chance. But i dont think that Beauxbatons has the reputaion for the dark arts, that Durmstang has.

As for Percy... I think there is the possibility that he could go on to become a death eater. He has the whole 'middle child' thing going on. He wants to prove himself, he has been shown as a (sorry for the terminology, but i cant think of anything else at the moment) bit of a brown-noser, when it comes to people with a bit of authority and power.
But i will stand by the sorting hat: he's in Gryffindor. Has there ever been a wizard/witch from that house that went bad? If there is, i havent heard it :huh:
I think the majority of Percy's eagerness comes from the largeness of his family, the need to prove himself because of this and his ambition to be the minister of magic one day.
I think that Percy is pretty safe....but you never know. After all im not JK, am i?

Wish i was though...:sigh: Id know what was going to happen instead of cursing the longer and longer and longer wait for book 5.

In book five, I believe we will find out more alot of the current characters, with emphasis on Lily, Snape, the Malfoy's and the Longbottom's. There is a lot more to Hogwarts then appears. I think Hogwarts will be looked at more closely. I believe there is a connection between Snape and the Malfoy's. I also believe that one of the characters we know, love and trust will turn to the dark side.

I love reading all the theories, some are brillant. I can not wait to see what JK comes up with. :bigtu:

Originally posted by hermownninny
I want to see Viktor Krum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

And Lupin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But, I heard in someplace that there would be a Vampire......I bet the vampire is a good guy.......


:angel:


Hmmmm... Where did you hear that?
*Goes into deep thought session*
Snaps out of deep thought session*

I just thought about who this vampire could be... Snape! Isn't it obvious ? He's got the proper physique - sallow, pale skin. 'Member what Quirrell said?

"So useful to have him swooping around like an overgrown bat."

Maybe we overlooked that phrase. Maybe there was meaning in it. Maybe Quirrell knew about it as well as the other professors.

This could be something... wow! What thinking at *checks clock* 11:23pm does to you...

hmmm.. Snape a vampire?
Thats a possibility, but i dont think so. It just doesnt seem...right?

Wouldnt he have been hurt/repelled by Quirrel's garlic filled turban in PS anyway?

One cool thing though is that in the lego set, Snape'e head is glow in the dark. Perhaps this is some obscure clue for us all??? :hmm:

or maybe i just need some sleep :sleep:

Hehe! You need sleep, lol! ;) :D (j/k)

Originally posted by Morgoth
Do you think we will see more Death Eaters? More Hogwarts teachers?

Do you think we'll see any named characters make an appearence in the Order of the Phoenix?

I for one think we'll see the Dementors make a strong re-appearence as allies of Voldemort, and maybe we'll also see the introduction of the giants, which I am really hoping we do, because they would be very interesting to see described in print.
Also, what about the Dragons? Do you think they could be used as a secret weapon of either Dumbledore or Voldemort? They are very powerful and could quite possibly turn the tide in any war.

Also, the house elves. These creatures appear to be gifted very powerful magic. They could likely be unlikely allies of Dumbledore and Harry in the event of an invasion of Hogwarts by Voldemort and the Death Eaters?

So, what do you guys think?

I agree that the Death Eaters and Dementors will make a strong reappearance. I believe that they will join forces and will call on some of the evil giants to gain as much power as quickly as they can. But, I also think that the very thing that Voldemort wants will bring him down...and that's power.
I think that we'll find out in book 6 and 7 that Harry is even stronger than we know, and that Dumbledore's powers will pale in comparison to Harry's. (Just a theory.)

House Elves will probably go the way of Dumbledore. Remember when Dobby said something along the lines of --"If you knew what Harry Potter's defeat of the Dark Lord meant house-elves." and "We were treated as the lowest being."---
****remember this is my memory, not my exact quote from the book****
So, I think that makes a strong case for house elves joining forces with Harry, Dumbledore and the "old crowd".

I think Mrs. Diggory will become an Order of Pheniox person. She was strong and her husband was weak at her son's death.

I think that first of all we are going to see the real Mad-Eye mooody. we will see definitely Lupin again, or at least i hope so. Arabella Figg may be in the list of Recurring characters as she belongs to the old crowd. new characters will be the others belonging to the order of the phoenix. and of course we will get more of lucius malfoy and we will see more death eaters

And i hope we will learn more about snape

Lots of good ideas already. Not much to add, I'm afraid.

I hope we hear/see more about the Longbottom family. Perhaps a visit to Neville's parents in the hospital, along with Neville's grandmother. It's been brought up so many times that it seems likely that something with the Longbottoms is likely to happen.

"The old crowd" will be very important. It will be interesting to learn if the are the Order of the Phoenix, who they are, when they formed, what they intend to accomplish. If it's what people expect, Sirius, Lupin, Arabella Figg, et al, will be very important to the plot of book 5.

I think Arabella Figg will probably be the new DADA thecher, but maybe she will be different. Like more of a competent secret agent type, rather than a looney or person who is a bit, well, off. It would be a change. Not all people who are able to resist the baddies have to be.... um......eccentric.

And I really want to see more of the centaurs, and house elves and other magical races.

I would like to see more of Fudge, as he is in the office, and not being a politican, so to speak. We saw a bit of that when he blew up at Dumbledore. What about Mrs. Fudge and all the little Fudges?

And I want to see Egypt and Bill and Charlie in their own milieus. Azkaban will be interesting, but not fun.

And I am dying to get to Godrick's hollow, and maybe Lily's childhood home.

Im afraid we will see Harry Potter again.

Originally posted by Peter
Im afraid we will see Harry Potter again.

:huh: What's that supposed to mean? You don't like Harry? :youwhat:

I want to see more of Arabella Figg. Didn't it say in PS/SS something to the effect of Harry hating her, though? Or that she was never particularly nice to him? She must have known who he was so why would she act like that, being one of the 'old crowd' so probably being good friends with his parents.

I hope we see more of Sirius and Lupin, they're two of my favourite characters and I'm hoping for a reappearance soon! :D

I think it'd be nice to see some of Harrys wizarding relatives, if he's got any! But I suppose he'll have to do without. :sigh:

Originally posted by Peter
Im afraid we will see Harry Potter again.

I actually thought that we were done with him?
I mean, isnt he getting just a little annoying. All that 'Oh, my scar hurts' in GoF...I think he needs to be killed off.
Let Creevey become the new main man :smile:

...ok, i hope someone realises i was joking.
I think it is a certainty that we'll see Harry. There's no escaping him, is there ;D .

Originally posted by raeredeyes


I actually thought that we were done with him?
I mean, isnt he getting just a little annoying. All that 'Oh, my scar hurts' in GoF...I think he needs to be killed off.
Let Creevey become the new main man :smile:

...ok, i hope someone realises i was joking.
I think it is a certainty that we'll see Harry. There's no escaping him, is there ;D .



HA HA .. very funny!! -__-;

I hope we will find out more about Neville's parents ... and Susan Bones' family as well .. since they all suffered alot!!!

(There are given) We will definitely gonna see Lupin, Black, Figgs and of course the REAL Mad-eye Moody!!!

I am quite interested to read more about the gaints myself!!!!! And the DEMENTORS!!! (scary stuff)

I have to agree House elves should play a bigger role on the defense of the dark arts!!!!! They are poor little souls!!!!

And last but not the least, the old Harry Potter crowd!!! Can't go on without them!! They are the soul of the series!!!

:p

It's boring but instead of posting who I think will return (because I'd rather ask questions than try and guess the answer) I'm going to make a list of all scarcely mentioned characters that have any possibility whatsoever to reappear in the series (ie. is knowingly still alive). It's no hard work of mine since I'm reading a list of characters of a website :lol:

So... who COULD make another appearance?

Background Folk
- Doris Crockford (wouldn't stay away from Harry during his first visit to The Leaky Cauldron)
- Dedalus Diggle (odd bloke with a cool name)
- Gabriel Delacour
- Mundungus Fletcher (this one is a shoe-in. He's been mentioned twice and Dumbledore asked for him to be notified about the events at the end of GOF)
- Piers Polkiss (Dudley's schoolfriend)

Students Harry Doesn't Really Speak To
ones who were only mentioned while being sorted or as players on teams are excluded
- Hannah Abbott (Hufflepuff)
- Susan Bones (Hufflepuff. Her grandparents were killed by Voldemort or his minions)
- Milicent Bullstrode (Slytherin)
- Roger Davies (Ravenclaw. He might have left now but he was the Quidditch captain who got a date with Fleur Delacour)
- Justin Finch-Fletchley (Hufflepuff)
- Eloise Midgen
- Ernie McMillan (Hufflepuff)
- Pansy Parkinson (Slytherin)

Important in One Book
- Aragog
- Ludo Bagman (but I suspect he's currently in hiding)
- Fleur Delacour
- Firenze
- Igor Karkaroff (fleeing for his life)
- Viktor Krum
- Gilderoy Lockhart
- Remus Lupin (is definately returning but I had to put him in there)
- Madame Olympe Maxime
- Mad-Eye Moody (I think he's another certified returner)
- Norbert
- Rita Skeeter
- Winky

Others
- Avery (a Death Eater)
- Bane (a centaur who disapproved of Firenze's behaviour)
- Penelope Clearwater (is or was Percy's girlfriend)
- Crabbe the elder (A Death Eater)
- Amos Diggory
- Goyle the elder (A Death Eater)
- Mr and Mrs Lestrange (imprisoned Death Eaters who may be freed by Voldemort)
- Moaning Myrtle
- Nott (A Death Eater)
- Ollivander
- Ronan (another centaur)
- Oliver Wood

I hope we see alot more of the Dursleys.;D

WHo knows, the Dursleys might even have to come to hogwarts because Voldemort might go after them because they are related to harry, and hogwarts will be a safe place.(is that possible). But i am hoping to see much more of Black and Lupin.:)

I agree. I would love to see more of Moony and Padfoot.
Do you think that we will learn more about James and Lily?

Defenitly we will learn more about them, but I don't think we will learn everything about them in book 5, there's still book 6 and 7 left, so we have to have patience.

Originally posted by Sirius Black
Defenitly we will learn more about them, but I don't think we will learn everything about them in book 5, there's still book 6 and 7 left, so we have to have patience.

Which is really the most maddening thing. i believe JK said there'd be no book as long as book 4, so i don't think we'll have everything as answered as we'd like. That's the thing burning me the most: what is there that we don't know now that we WON'T find out about or see in book 5? What will JK leave until books 6 & 7?

Anyways, i would like to see the Griffindor (sp?) boys of Harry's year in a crucial role, like having the five of them (Harry, Ron, Neville, Seamus and Dean) fight off some bad guys together. S & D in particular have really played a background role, and one episode of shine would be nice.

WHEN is the date for book 5, anyways? i have to schedule time off from work to wait in the purchasing line!!!

I think Arabella Figg will play a major role. Correct me is I'm wrong, but does she live next door to the Dursleys (or near them) and Harry stayed with her? (If i'm thinking of the wrong person, just disregard this). Maybe she was put there to be close to Harry just in case anything happened to him. She could be sort of a protector for Harry.

Yeah, the arabella figg theory, it has been discused many times, anyways, book five is not coming out any time soon INKSPOt, you have to wait till next summer for it so you don't have to schedule time from work yet to wait in the purchasing line, anyways, welcome to the forums.

I don't believe that Figg will be the new DADA. So far every DADA teacher hasn't been mentioned at all in the previous books, and we know that Figg has been mentioned before. JKR has mentioned that somewhere along the line they will have a witch DADA teacher. My guess is that the new DADA teacher will be a witch, but someone whom we've never heard mentioned of before.

A short note: none of the previous DADA professors were mentioned in any of the previous books. I don't think this is a coincidence. Arabella doesn't have to be a minor character; I just doubt that she'll be a professor. Introducing new characters is something that's constantly needed, and an excuse such as this makes things rather easier.

Yeah, it seems to us know that we know the harry potter so well and what's gonna happen. But with jkr, we never know. New characters were introduced in all of the books, when, when I had read all three of the hp series, I thpught she let me in on everything already, but when book 4 came out, I was suprised at how little I knew.

Obviously the usuals will be back, with the possible exception of Hagrid. He may or may not be with the giants. Lupin might return since Dumbledore wants "the old crowd." Mrs. Figg will play a part, J.K. Rowling's already told us that. Maybe she'll be the new DADA teacher, we already know it's going to be a female. Other than that, I fear Wormtail and Lucious Malfoy will play a part, just what I'm not sure. And we may find out Nick, the Bloody Baron, and the Grey Lady's stories.

Somehow, I have a funny feeling that this character has already been mentioned in the series, and is going to be the DADA teacher: Arabella Figg. After all, looking at the "old crowd"; Albus Dumbledore, one of the greatest wizards of the past century or so; Sirius Black, who if I remember correctly from PoA was a highly respected wizard, and an Auror, Remus Lupin, who must have extensive DA experience, again from PoA; it seems that the old crowd is quite powerful, and versed in the Dark Arts, and Defense against them. It stands to reason that Arabella Figg is in the same boat. i think if arabella was that powerful of a witch she'll defitnetly be the dada teacher. & i think fleur(sp)will be the care of magical creatures teacher b/c if hagrid is off w/ the gaints. i'd luv to know more about sirius, peter, remus, james, lily, & tom riddle/voldy's past.

Originally posted by bunn2007
i think if arabella was that powerful of a witch she'll defitnetly be the dada teacher. & i think fleur(sp)will be the care of magical creatures teacher b/c if hagrid is off w/ the gaints. i'd luv to know more about sirius, peter, remus, james, lily, & tom riddle/voldy's past.

It has been rumored that we will learn more about Lily Potter nee Evans, so it looks like your wish will be granted. I want to know more about Jame's past and about the possible link between him and Godric Gryffindor.
Sirius and Peter's pasts would be interesting to see detailed, and I would love to hear about when Remus was bitten.

Harry... not sure.

Moaning Myrtle: a ghost... it didn´t do something alive so it´still there... WHO KILLED HER? Well, I mean, the owner of the basilisk... think.

But all these charachters MUST be explained in book 5... so I think NO ONE will be reminded; Vold will be preparing the attack while Harry is at Hogwarts (or even at Vernon´s house); the "old group" won´t appear at school, at least in front of the students... and so on.

Originally posted by NaBUru

But all these charachters MUST be explained in book 5... so I think NO ONE will be reminded; Vold will be preparing the attack while Harry is at Hogwarts (or even at Vernon´s house); the "old group" won´t appear at school, at least in front of the students... and so on.

I think that the "old crowd" will definitely make an appearance at Hogwarts. And, I think that it will be interesting to learn more about how they all interacted at Hogwarts.

I agree, though that Voldemort will be planning and possibly executing an attack on Harry. I wonder how he'll do it this time..

What does everyone think that Snape's role is going to be in the 5th book? Is his life as a Death Eater going to come more into play?

Hey this gave me an idea about moaning myrlte. I think moaning myrtle will come back and might take revenge on Voldemort.

Good job, Sirius (of course that was the idea of that line, but anyway... they were only hints and you got it)

I think it would be funny if Wood came back to take over for Hooch. Of course, that is based off of the movies and has nothing really to do with the books.

Dumbledore will want to give the students extra protection
no doubt. Putting an old crowd member into a teacher
spot would make sense. So maybe they will be there.

There are deffinatly going to be new teachers, Lupin might come back.

I've heard that there may be more teachers and Death Eaters
:)

I think Norbert should come back. He will be... a bit larger than before. I can't imagine how he could make a return but it seems strange to me that he felt so important and yet was hardly in the book. He was in and out and didn't do much except get Harry into detention (couldn't JKR have done that without introducing the baby dragon?). He's also been mentioned once or twice after he left.

Anyway - he's been in every book so this might no count here but I think it would be incredibly cool if Peeves had some importance in a future book. Even if it's only a small bit of importance.

Yeah, I want to know what they let Peeves hang around. It sounds like Filch wants him to be barred from the castle but Dumbledore is allowing him to stay.

Also, I want to get to know the Grey Lady more. We haven't even been told her name in the books.

Hmm, Norbert could be reintroduced if Harry goes and visits Charlie in Romania. It would give him something to do over the summer besides think of Voldemort.

Well, we don't know about the Bloody Baron or the Fat Friar, either, so The Grey Lady isn't alone there :D

We know their names though. The only reason we know the Grey Lady is called the Grey Lady is because Rowling told us so after Goblet came out. We kind of know the personalities of the Fat Friar and Bloody Baron. Well, we thought we knew the Bloody Baron's personality but his representation in the movie was way too cheerful in my opinion.

Maybe norbert will come back and gaurd the main entrance, it could be trained. Just like the number of times they mentioned dragons would be gaurding the school sarcastically, but it could really happen.I wonder if avada kerdarva could get through dragon scale????:??:

I don't know about you, but I think that would be kind of cool. Imagine having a Norweign (I know my spelling is wrong) Ridgeback guarding the gates!!
Hagrid would be in heaven!:D

Of course, and especially that Norwegian Ridgeback was Norbert, Hagrid's long lost beloved Dragon. And also he could be used for care for magical creatures. That's exactly what I think Hagrid will do.:clappy:

maybe fleur is the ne DADA teacher!:idea: (jus a thought)
i wanna see more of lupin, bill and charlie.
can't wait to find out more about the "old crowd" i think it would be kool to get dragons into it wiv charlie a good ally type thing.
wanna know more about dementors they'll prolly play a pivitol role in the 5th book...can't wait to read it:rotfl:

No one can wait to read it, it's already been too long.

But I doubt fleur will be the new DADA teacher.

I want to see omre of lupin and black though I don't mind charlie and bill.

Maybe Hagrid and Charlie will get together and tame the dragon guarding the school(if there is one):clappy:

there was a mention of rita skeeter earlier ( i read some of the post on pg.1 but then jumped to pg 3). i really don't think she will be back, only because hermione told her she had to keep her pen to herself for a year to see if she can break her habit of telling half truths; and that means the end of book 5.

lupin will be back; of course sirius will be back, maybe we will learn more about the house elves in book 5 (mainly about why they are house elves and subject to ownership).

i'd like to see hermione's parents too ( someone else had mentioned this and i agree).

i would also like to learn more of harry's parents ( was james an only child? the mirror of erised showed harry all sorts of family members but it didn't say whether or not they were dead)

I think Arabella Figg is Dumbledore's sister. They're both eccentric and Dumbledore told Hagrid in book 4 that he had a brother named Aberforth (who experimented on goats -- meaning he's eccentric too). Albus, Aberforth, and Arabella. All start with A's, all are eccentric. (Arabella with her cats, Albus with anything magic, and Aberforth and his goats)... Maybe Aberforth and Arabella are twins...?

I don't think it's true though, it's just what I think :) I think Fleur will be appearing, but as Madame Maxime's representative for Beaxbatons or something.

You don't get more eccentric than Alastor (Mad-Eye) and I don't think he's related to Dumbledore.

Argus Filch and Arthur Weasley are both treading the Path of the Loony, too.

At this point I think that, since most of the cast of characters is barking, having a name begining with 'A' is just a small connection.

Lol, true. But oh well :)

It will be Arabella Figg. There's 80% chance of that. I read in an interview that Jkr confirmed it would be Arabella Figg, the new DADA teacher.

And could you find that interview again to post the link here?

I'm sorry, I don't have it and don't know where to find it. Try searching for JKRowling interviews on google.com.

I doubt arabella figg is dumbledores sister, she seems extremely muggle, and I doubt that dumbledore was muggle-born, as we heard he is referred to as 'mudblood lover' and 'muggle loving' but he himself hasn't been referred to as a mudblood, or muggle-born.

Maybe the 'Aberforth' and 'Arabella' are just coincidence, after all, JK did have a lot of names to make up.

it will be great to learn more of the 'old crowd'. (i've said this before, but.............) i still want to find out about james family.


this is off the topic, but........ how do you get the exam results to your signature. i've been to the different sites but haven't figured out how to get them to copy to my signature.

It will be great, but I'm sure we will find more about the old crowd in the next book. And I think there's going to be a betrayer in the old crowd, passing on information about Voldemort to the other people.:whistle:

I'd like to know more about what Dumbledore and his group of allies (which included MWPP, Lily and Snape) did during Voldemort's first stint of power.

It'll be interesting to see what will happen in Book 5 considering that there will be a lot going on with the adults in the world outside Hogwarts, but the focus will presumably still be on Harry and co's education.

I'm starting to feel like I've read book 5 already! I hope all these predictions aren't too accurate, or it won't be so fun to finally read the book. I wonder how accurate people were when they speculated about book 4?

Just a thought...if Snape is going on a mission (to the Death Eaters?) will he be able to teach? And if not, who will teach potions?

I'm reading through and seeing a lot of interesting theories and hopes, but I do have a couple of comments.

1. Although I do think that the house elves, especially Dobby will play a role in the next book, Dumbledore has no desire to free them. Not because he wants to keep them enslaved, necessarily, but because it's been shown over and over again that house-elves DO NOT want to be freed. It is a great shame and punishment to them, and Dumbledore would never do that. Dobby is just the exception.

2. Fleur is too young to be a DADA professor, and clearly didn't have the skills to deal with it anyway, as she had problems with the grindylows and some of the maze creatures in the Tournament. The Hogwarts students seemed to have no trouble with them at all, and it would not make sense to hire a teacher who knows less than her students. I agree that Mrs. Figg will probably be the new DADA prof.

3. We'll learn more about Lily Potter, every rumour I have heard confirms this.

4. We also know that we will learn more about Snape, Sirius and the 'old crowd' because of the ending of the fourth book. I don't think McGonagall was an original part of the group, but I think we will learn more about her and will see her as a guiding force.

5. Don't know about seeing Krum again. I was not overly impressed with him, although he would possibly be of use. I think he was mainly used to begin pointing out Ron and Hermione's relationship.

Mmm...I can't think of any new names to add to the list right now. I have been hearing all these rumours, including the ones confirmed by JK Rowling, and am very interested to see how she sets up this book. (Which I heard will be out in about 5 months!)

oh, and I heard in an interview that JK said dragons can't be tamed or trained, so I doubt we'll see Norbert as a guard for Hogwarts, although maybe we'll see him during something else

I THINK WE'LL LEARN A LOT ABOUT LILY POTTER BECAUSE DURING THE PRIORI INCANTATEM LILY COMES OUT OF VOLDEMORTS WAND BEFORE JAMES DOES AND THAT SEEMS LIKE TO BIG OF A MISTAKE FOR J.K. TO MAKE. I ALSO READ ON THE THEORIES PAGE THAT LILY MAY BE A DEATH EATER WHICH I THINK IS HIGHLY IMPOSSIBLE BECAUSE THEN SHE WOULD HAVE KNOWEN THAT PETER (SCABBERS) WAS ONE OF VOLDEMORTS SUPPORTERS.

I THINK THAT MS. FIGG WILL BE THAT DADA TEACHER AND THAT FLEUR WILL COME TO HOGWARTS BUT I DONT REALLY KNOW WHAT SHE COULD DO.

That's already been proven to be a mistake with Lily coming out of the wand first, so it really doesn't mean anything....

*frowns* I thought James came out first and said something to the effect of "Your mother is coming," which would have been out of order, as Lily was killed after James.

After going to see the movie last night, I was also kinda wondering if Lockhart might pop up again. I can't think of any reason why he would, but it sure would be interesting to see how much of his memory they could recover/modify! :)

Oh, and Shadow, please don't use all caps, it looks like you're shouting at someone :)

Originally posted by hermownninny
I want to see Viktor Krum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

And Lupin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But, I heard in someplace that there would be a Vampire......I bet the vampire is a good guy.......


:angel:

I don't know it might be a badguy, I think Ron will get a crush on a girl, not Lavender, I mean A REAL crush

I heard that the Vampire would be Snape. Look it up in the forums, a lot of evidence points to snape being a vampire. Ron and Hermione are definitly hooking up. And Mrs. Figg that watches Harry in the first book (the one with the cats) is probably the same Arabella Figg that is part of the old crowd.... although this is probably info everyone aready knows.

The Lily coming out after James had been a mistake. Further editions of U.K. edition had been corrected. I don't think the U.S. one correct this mistake because in my country when there are both the U.S. and U.K. edition everywhere, I look up on the U.S. one and realised they did not bother to correct it (it was the 10th edition of the Hard Cover copy). The U.K. one did though.

Mine doesnt have the mistake. Newer I guess. I think that Something will happen with Dumbles. He could die, or he could have to closer the schol until V is stopped/killed

will we ever meet the authors of any of the school books besides lockhart, e.g. Miranda Goshank etc

Wasn't it confirmed that the Mrs. Figg that's Harry's baby sitter is Arablella Figg?

Not really. We know there's a connetion between them, but we don't know what that connection is yet. They could be the same person, or there could be a mother/daughter relationship going on.

HA! It is confirmed. Mugglenet (http://www.mugglenet.com/facts.shtml) saves the day again!

Well, obviously, nobody really KNOWS who will be in it because JKR has not released it yet, and is taking way too long:angry: .

With that minor rant said, I would think that you would see Lupin, and Black back. I think Black will get his name cleared sometime soon. Obviously all the normal people, like teachers, and students will be back. I think Figg will have some role, as she is very suspicious. Also, I agree that the Dementors will probably be on Voldemort's side, and I think the old Death Eaters in Azkaban may be released.

Originally posted by Shadow
I THINK WE'LL LEARN A LOT ABOUT LILY POTTER BECAUSE DURING THE PRIORI INCANTATEM LILY COMES OUT OF VOLDEMORTS WAND BEFORE JAMES DOES AND THAT SEEMS LIKE TO BIG OF A MISTAKE FOR J.K. TO MAKE.

Um, that isn't a mistake. You see, it goes backwards. Lily was killed after James, so she would come out before James.

If Hagrid is with the giants and Snape with de death eaters, then there are three teacher places vacants. Arabella Figg could be the new DADA teacher, and maybe two more members of the "old crowd" would be teachers too?

I'd like to know more about Lily Potter and Bill and Charly Weasly.

I belive that Mr. Weasly will have a more important rol into de MoM. In a first moment objecting Fudge and later maybe like minister.

I don't think Hagrid is going to leave the school, nor do I think Snape will leave the school. Their rivalry with Snape is too big to make him leave, and I really don't think JKR will make Hagrid leave either.

-The Main characters
-Most of the Hogwarts teahers
-Arabella Figg
-Reamus Lupin (sorry if I spell anything wrong)
-Sirius Black
-Pettigrew
-Voldemort (w/ his own body)
-Dementors
-Hagrid
-Lucius Malfoy
-Death Eaters
-Cornelius Fudge
-The Weasleys
-Mundungus Fletcher

The fourth book definitely makes certain that some or most of these people will return.

I think Arabella Figg will be the DADA teacher, but that's kind of obvious and a lot of people seem to think that as well.

One thing I don't understand is how dementors can be Voldemort's supporters. Why would they be guarding Azkaban, and why wouldn't Death Eaters be able to escape? It doesn't make sense to me....

And another that some have been posting on is how can giants make a return to the books when they clearly haven't even BEEN in the books (and I'm not talking about Hagrid and Madame Maxine)?

But above all with returns, JK Rowling is fond of them. We saw the House Elves again going from CoS to GoF, as well as Polyjuice Potion. I think there would be no point for her to bring up characters and ideas and then dispose of them at will.

Well, the Dementors would be on Voldemort's side because they want people to feed on. That is why they are in Azkaban. They need to suck the happiness out of people. It's what they do, and how they survive. Voldemort can promise more of this than anyone else.

I'd like to see little Norbert return in a later book as a full grown Norwegian Ridgeback!! Even better if he played a role in defeating Voldemort. I realize that all dragons are wild and can not be trained, but even he escaped and in a fleeting moment that Harry is about to get killed, Norbert swoops in and snatches up Voldemort in his claws (or something :) ).

Also, what if Harry is the heir of Godric Gryffindor? And as Harry gets more powerful and gains the ability to transfigure, will Harry transfigure into a lion?? Just like Gryffindors symbol!!

-Mystique

Mystique that would be sooooooo cool!

Originally posted by doubledotties

One thing I don't understand is how dementors can be Voldemort's supporters. Why would they be guarding Azkaban, and why wouldn't Death Eaters be able to escape? It doesn't make sense to me....


You know, I've never thought about that before, but you're right! I know that dementors can get a lot more "thrill" from times when Voldemort is in power-so why don't they help him come back to power by letting the Death Eaters free?

Maybe they have enough of a diet from what the Death Eaters are thinking while they are in Azkaban...Or, maybe this is something that JK will explain in the future.

The dementors could have instructions from Voldemort himself to not let the Death Eaters free until Harry Potter is dead.

Hmmmm..Interesting thought.

Maybe the Dementors, like the rest of them, didn't know that Voldemort was still alive. There was nothing to be gained from missing dinner.

a very good point.... which makes total sense.... who would miss free food over a theory of someone still being alive..???

I think there might be a revelation about who pulls certain strings in the Wizarding world, kind of like a ruling council behind the scenes thing. These people might be the Order of the Phoniex or something else...

I think Voldemort will return in a more full on capacity, ie. we will somehow have more insight into what he's plotting during the year, rather than have his shock "all is revealed" bit at the end. Maybe through his connection through Harry with the scar.

Rita Skeeter won't be in book 5 because Hermione's making her keep her pen away for a year.

I think Mundungus Fletcher will be important, and from the couple of mentions of him already he seems to be a bit of a duffer (like when he tries to jip the ministry with his tents at the world cup).

Have the "unspeakables" Arthur Weasley mentions at the world cup in book four been discussed in this thread yet? I think JK's foreshadowing with that comment indefinitely. They must be like the FBI agents of the wizard world, and probably have some important part in the Harry Potter series to be revealed. They'll probably sniff out all the death eaters. Hey Lanifel, maybe these will be the people who "pull certain strings" you're thinking of.

New characters to be introduced will probably be those from the ministry who have to choose to be loyal to fudge's understanding of the Voldemort situation, and those that will choose to remain loyal to Arthur Weasley and Dumbledore.

I don't think Fleur Delacour will be the care of magical creatures teacher, I think Hagrid and Maxime will go to see the giants during Harry's holidays and be back in time for school to start again.

The Dementors will DEFINITELY be important, because the power over Azkaban is held in their hands.

The Longbottoms will also make an appearance in some way I believe. They may be used by Dumbledore's "side" to persuade the people loyal to fudge to realise the truth, and understand that they will have to face the wrath of Voldemort again.

there was this site, it said lupins bro is gonna come out, i'm wonderin if its true or not, and it said there'll be more info on harry's parents

i think the most hilarious comeback to happen in book five would be the return of ron's old ford angalia. just think, after two years of dissapearance, it ould reemerge as a wild car-beast-creature or whatever. maybe harry would get lost in the dark forrest again and encounter death eaters or erewolves and the car would save him.

a humorous scene would be the centaurs running alongside of the car marlboro country-style.

don't you think?

don't you think that with the dementors and azkaban prisoners now out there and free that hogwarts would cancel classes for the safety of the students? although dumbledore can have protection charms cast around the school to prevent harm. still, a full scale attack on hogwarts might be interesting

on that point, don't you think Rowling is being too hurried with the way the story is unfolding? sure, she may have everything planned out but by reviving voldemort at such a comparably early time in the series, good plots might run out for her. justmy opinion though.

i beleive fleur will return to hogwats as a teacher, to the delight of many male students.

i think fleur will be an assistant or something, she has only just graduated herself hasn't she? how could she possibly be a professor? seriously, think about that. oh and to clear some things up...arabella figg and mrs figg from privet drive ARE THE SAME person, jk rowling has confirmed that. i think its possible for pretty much anyone (dead or alive!! lol) to return in the future books...i think that jk rowling is going to blow everyone away and shock them...i think you take her quotes too literally and she is really just throwing everyone in the wrong direction...top idea i think ... lol.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MagpieOnaga
[B]Yeah, Da da -- I can't wait to see what Fleur's up to in the next books. I think she'll come to work at Hogwarts, as JK mentioned it in book four....

well thats what i needed.:clappy: I thought that i read some where that snape and harry have a crush on a teacher and sanpe helps harry out because of this.well Fluer may be that student/teacher as harry wont fall for any body more than 5-6 years older than him.And most importantly snape may fall for Fleur as she is part veela

I think Angels need to be introduced into the series as the new Magical Beings Harry hasn't seen yet. And heck, let's face it: if anyone could use a guardian Angel, it's Harry (with Neville running a VERY close second).

I also think a new female teacher that went to Hogwarts a while back needs to be in there - maybe Sirius's old school sweetheart? :crush:

If she brings angels into it, I'm walking outta here and not looking back...

Angels... I don't know. Angels don't seem likely, besides, his mother is kinda like his guardian angel. But I never thought about what magical creature will be introduced in the 5th book. Is there even any left?

Of course she has more creatures to use!! We've only seen very few of them in comparison to what she has in MB&***T... And angels? :??: I somehow just don't like that idea. *shrugs* It's possible though...

if JKR mix angels? in anyways in any of potters last books! I'll switch to Lord of the Rings!:devil: too OA and positively barking on her part if she even think of doing that!:o

angels??? uh.... no....

nundus, or lengthifolds... all the dangerous beasts are welcome... heck, she can even create new ones... like the skrewts.... but please... no holy creatures like angels of cherubims or seraphims.....

Nundus...? Lengthifold...? What are those? Are those real magical creatures... from like myths or something?

Originally posted by Ame
Nundus...? Lengthifold...? What are those? Are those real magical creatures... from like myths or something?

They are both in Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them. The Nundu is a gigantic leopard whose breath causes disease virulent enough to eliminate entire villages. The Lengthifold is a creature that looks like a black cloak and attacks it's victim by suffocating and the consuming them. Both of these creatures have a clasification of XXXXX, the most dangerious raiting the MOM gives a creature.

The Lethifolds do seem rather... uh.... lovely. No, they seem terrible. But wonderfully terrible. I thought they were the most striking creations in that little book.

Oh, thank you CannonFan. That was really helpful. :smooch: ;)

Originally posted by Cat
The Lethifolds do seem rather... uh.... lovely. No, they seem terrible. But wonderfully terrible. I thought they were the most striking creations in that little book. I completely agree! They're the ones that stand out to me the most. :) I'd like to see a Jarvey and a Fwooper too, and maybe even a Kelpie.

What do you have against ANGELS?!?

NOTHING presented in JKR's world has ever been what it "should" be. Case in point: I had a mermaid fetish as a kid. I was obsessed with them. So imagine my surprise to see mermaids in GoF, only to have them as garish-looking with gray skin, green hair and YELLOW eyes. And who would've suspected gnomes as being small potato-like creatures that bite?

Thus, I don't think it's a total impossibility to have angels in there. Angels aren't strictly the province of the organized religious, you know. Even if they were in HP's world, they probably wouldn't be what you'd expect them to be.

I'm not really going to make predictions, just some thoughts about two characters that, in my opinion, have more in them than we think.
Both of them are animals.
The first one is Crookshanks. I believe he is an animagi. Not Lily, as some people have been saing, but another character, someone that will become important.
The other one is Mrs. Norris. I think that she is an animagi as well. Why would you call a cat MRS? And why did the Basilisk try to kill her? You might say, because she is Filch's cat and he is a squib. Then why bother killing a cat, why not kill Filch himself?
These are just my thoughts, I might, of course, be wrong.

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Originally posted by Celestine_Adams
What do you have against ANGELS?!?

NOTHING presented in JKR's world has ever been what it "should" be. Case in point: I had a mermaid fetish as a kid. I was obsessed with them. So imagine my surprise to see mermaids in GoF, only to have them as garish-looking with gray skin, green hair and YELLOW eyes. And who would've suspected gnomes as being small potato-like creatures that bite?

Thus, I don't think it's a total impossibility to have angels in there. Angels aren't strictly the province of the organized religious, you know. Even if they were in HP's world, they probably wouldn't be what you'd expect them to be.

But that's the point. It would be very difficult for both her and us to discover angels as magical creatures of the Harry Potter variety. I don't think she'd do it. It would be like telling us that toilet paper is a magical creation. Some ideas can be changed, true, but some ideas shouldn't.

Magical toilet paper...LOL!! I agree that angels aren't impossible in HP, but I also agree with Cat that they shouldn't be. They're too loaded with other meanings, especially for people who have any kind of Christian background.

oh, we're not against the idea of putting angels.... but it really doesn't fit since angels will add a Christian touch... and might mean a brand new direction for the book -for better or worse, I dare not say. BEsides, angels aren't really magical creatures.....

oh, and the nundu is a real part of african mythology... hehe... but I don't really think Harry and the guys can take on a creature that dangerous.. although if harry was able to beat a basilisk, why not a nundu...;) kidding:D

if my theory is correct, everyone mentioned in the previous 4 books who are not dead will be making a comeback... even those who were only mentioned but not really active characters.... though I might excluce Aunt Marge from my list...

JK Rowling has taken just about all her characters from mythology. Maybe we should look through mythology books and see what creatures there are left to choose from.

Yes, there sould be more mytholigical creatures in there yet, There are MANY ... Still stuff like minotaurs, Hydra's etc... i think she should include some Elves like we know them from LOTR- that would be cool, and it could be possible as We have only met 'House Elves' Because... hmm...

That toilet paper is magical? When I post my 8 book (read signature) you´ll see worse things...

Originally posted by MWPPforever
Yes, there sould be more mytholigical creatures in there yet, There are MANY ... Still stuff like minotaurs, Hydra's etc... i think she should include some Elves like we know them from LOTR- that would be cool, and it could be possible as We have only met 'House Elves' Because... hmm...

His elves are his own. Well, actually, they're a bit Nordic. Hopefully we are stuck with the common elves - things like Dobby.

I want Re'em of course! Lots of Re'ems! Whole Herds of Re'ems! Tens of Thousands of Re'ems! Well, maybe not that many...I also want to see more of Charlie Weasley and his Dragons.

This hasnt really got anything to do with new characters.. its just a coincidence (I think) , I was watching a tv show and theres an actress on it called Eloise Midgen (spelling?)... I thought that was kinda weird...

def Charlie, Dobby, Lupin and Winky

I think tat she will maybe indurdrose Fleur and Krum back into the story

To Yoshi: If it's not been confirmed, we've been highly led to believe that Mrs. Figg is Arabella Figg. A new character that I'd like to see is a lady friend for Snape. That'd be a hoot.

I just read in another website a very intersting theory about future events. Someone suggested the recreation of that Snape/Sirius/James situation. Here's what I mean: Sirius almost killed Snape in the past because of a stupid joke and James saved him. The theory suggests that maybe Ron will almost kill Malfoy because of a stupid joke and Harry saves him. Then Malfoy would have sa life debt towards Harry. It might seem a little stupid, but it's possible.

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Oh, there is a parallel. That's a very interesting thoery. There are many parallels in the HP story. These parallels might be useful in trying to predict what events may come.

Venus tat is a great suggestion! it is really great tat u put tat down! it wud b awesome or quite interasting to see tat happen!:D

I would love to see more of Bill Weasley. I can't wait to see who plays him in the movie(Orlando Bloom maybe ?) JK makes Bill sound like a total hottie ****sigh**********

On a more serious note, I think that we will see:

1. Aunt Petunia- Maybe she will be forced to vist Hogwatrs as Privet Drive as become unsafe due to Voldemort. Maybe she will discover that she has thesame powers as Lily and will redeem herself for being such a b**ch to Harry.
2. Marcus Flynt- He has been a 6th year since book one!!!! I bet he keeps repeating the 6tth year because he is to thick to pass his OWLS.
3. Fred and George- A MUST!!!!! They are so funny. I would also like to see Angelina as Fred's girlfriend as they went to the Yule Ball together. George needs a girlfriend too, how about Katie Bell or Alicia Spinnet?

Wouldn't it be interesting if Firenz became and Astronomy teacher??

Hey that is intersting, but I dunno, seems a bit far fetched for some reason. I like the idea of Fred and George getting girlfriends and their Gryiffindor team mates seem likely matches.
I don't think we'll see Aunt Petunia as a witch that's just ridicilous but I do have a feeling the Dursley's will be forced into the wizarding world in some way. JK said that they play a bigger part in this book.
We will of course see Lupin and a few other old character like the real Moody

cheers

I have considered the idea that Dudley may show a bit of magical potenial, unintentionally. Of course Vernon and Petunia will do everything in their power to hide and deny it. But it would be funny, wouldn't it?

It'd be funny but I strongly belive that none of the Durselys will show any such talent, I just think they will be forced into the magical world, which will make for soem great humour which will be very welcomed if the book is as deep and scary as she says it is

cheers

Interesting, remember Harry compared the boy in The Robe Shop to Dudley Dursley, who turned out to be Malfoy. I do not believe that Dudley posses magical powers but would it not be odd if he did?

Yes odd indeed. Too odd for my liking, I'd be very disappointed with JKR if she made them posess magical powers (wouldn't stop me from reading though)

cheers

Didn't Rowling say that there would be someone who showed signs of magic later in life *dudley*

I think Dursleys will be pulling in to the Wizard world (as a muggle not a wizard) to fight the Dark Lord without them knowing it. Isn't what Dumbledore order the gangs, to gathering the old crowd, get Giant to come to good side, etc. I think he meant to include muggle too.

well, the dursleys coming back is a good thought and i agree, its just that there are so many signs that they HATE the magic world..i mean harry's not even allowed to say the word 'magic'!! i think that those facts that are continusely repeated make up 4 more of wat JKR says in those interviews(even tho she wrotes the books) ...but that would be a wicked twist!!!!

I think that the Giant Squid in Hogwarts' lake will play a bigger role in future books. We haven't learned much about it and i would realy like to know it's story. :)

lol, well, i wanna know more about Mrs. Figg.. i wanna know what HER story is...

I think the squid will be important like Ron falls in the water and Harry has to save him and they will meet the squid or something, just a thought.

that would be funny if Ron drowned.. but i know that won't happen.. yet anyway! hahahaha :elaugh:

I would like to see Wood back.

I'de like to see fred and george get left back and stay for the 6th and stay in the 6th book so the book will more comic relief, plus there funny

I can't believe nobody has mentioned the return of Sir Cadogan!

I'd put up real galeons (none of that Leprechaun Gold) on his return (because, when Bill Weasley and his mum return to the school to watch the tournament Bill flat-out asks Harry about him).

If the new novel's as dark as is predicted, we'll need the comic relief. Maybe he can be joined by his friends who say, "Ni!"

hahaha have you sen Monty Python and the Holy Grale? that was a funny movie.. anyway.. yea i can see that happening! :D that would be actually good for the book...comic relief.. and ithink the twins will also have something to do with it *the funniness of the book** lol

Sir Cadogan is hilarious, I would LOVE to see him again! He is a bit Monty Python, really, isn't he?

lol definetly ;):D

Sir Cadogan??? Who's he??? I can't remember. Can someone tell me?

The Guard Of Gryffindor When The Fat Lady Got Torn Out!!!

Oh yeah, that stupid Knight, oh yeah, he was definetly funny.

I want to see more creatures of the forest like the centaurs. They really intrigued me and i reckon they should tell us more about the future which would be helpful.

I think Fawkes has a major role in book 5 as well as the connection between Harry and Voldemort's wand. I think Harry wand is older than Voldemort's so, may be Harry's wand has more power than Voldemort's.

I was talking with a fellow HP fan yesterday and he asked me if anything had been said about Gilderoy Lockhart returning. His point was that Lockhart hadn't decided for the good side OR the bad...only the Lockhart side. Since his memory and therefore, perhaps, his slate have been wiped clean he now would have a chance to redeem himself. Interesting thought. He would have such a lot to overcome. If he could learn to stand on his own ,erits (if any), he might develop into an interesting character....good or bad.

The ghosts...JKR says there's more to their stories....We really only know the full death history of Moaning Myrtle...

It would be interesting if the ones at Hogwarts were all those with some connection to Slytherin or Voldemort, and since Voldie is in a wierd form of non-death, non-life, and ghosts are in a strange state, too....

What if it turns out that they are integral to helping kill Voldie: If it were necessary to form a link between the living & the dead to destroy him?

I'd like to say this was an original idea, but I can't...got it from a fanfic. But the idea does intrigue me!

We know how Headless Nick died too.. but not the reasons why.

Personally I think he would be the best help having been dead for so long.

I wonder how old the other ghosts are. (ok yes that sounds strange lol)

I would like to see harry talk to the fat lady.. She knows all the stuff from his house all the years she has been there.

I think that Snape and Moody will be the 2 defense against the dark arts teachers that JK Rowling says in an interview. For one thing, Snape will have to be a spy for Dumbledore, and spy on voldemort and pretend to be a death eater to spy on voldemort, so that leaves a post open most of the time for defense against the dark arts.

Hermione will be a prefect and Lupin will be captain of the quidditch team.

I think Harry wil be captain

I agreed with Slytherin Chick. I also think that Hermione will be Prefect, Ron might have more talent going on too because he has not has any action since book 2, Wizard Chess. Oh, may be he will be joining the Quidditch team, he was trying on Harry's Firebolt in Book 3 he might good at flying now.

Originally posted by Xikum

What if it turns out that they are integral to helping kill Voldie: If it were necessary to form a link between the living & the dead to destroy him?


Not sure about that but you made me think of something. The ghosts have what Voldemort wants - an everlasting existence. But they had to die to get it. And they can't be happy. They drift endlessly, absorbed in their troubles. Perhaps Voldemort should consider that existing forever would not be as glorious as it seems.

I agree Hermione will be a prefect, Maybe Harry, too? or not, because he'll be so busy w/Quidditch and Voldie?
And that Ron should be on the Q-team!!

Hmmm, I always thought they both should be prefects, but thats impossible, you can only have 1 prefect per house, right¿?

Anyways, I think that although harry is like one of the champions of the school, he has broken alot of rules, they all turned out good in the end, but... I think that Hermoine hasnt broken as many rules, so she may turn out to be a prefect.;D :??: :??:

I always thought that along with Hermione, Draco would be the other prefect...imagine the tension that would cause!!!

It would be a great plot device and personally I can see Rowling doing something as unexpected as that.

We'd be able to settle some debates such as whether Draco teases Hermione because he likes her, or he just does so because he's a git. (Personally I don't believe in the Draco likes Hermione theory but that could be a twist the story takes.)

It would hopefully gives us a bigger glimpse of the Slytherin students, we can learn if their reputation was earned or tarnished by the likes of the Malfoys and such.

And it would of course be one more obstacle that Harry woudl have to overcome. (I can already imagine all the scenarios that could arise should Draco be given that title...)

Although logically it doesn't make sense since he's not an exemplary student...it would just seem like the type of thing we need to get thrown off once agian because if there's one thing I know about Rowling it's to expect the unexpected.

....sorry for such a long post:p

Isn't there a couple prefects from each house? It is plausable that Draco and Hermione could each be prefects.

5th year 4 prefects
6th year 4 prefects
head boy/gir and 3 prefects for 7th year

Total of 11 prefects and 1 head boy/girl

Also, in the first book, Dumbledore saw himself in the Mirror of Erised with socks. Maybe his strongest desire is to somehow free all of the house elves and use them to help the good side.

MY GOODNESS! I never made the connection! Excellent call! I have no doubt that would come in handy, I mean it's such an important thing (What Dumbledore, one of the most powerful wizards in the world, wants the most?) and Dumbledore's already proven kind to the house-elves. To fight off the fellow members of S.P.E.W., no he doesn't pay most of them, but that's what they want. And I agree that they have some extrememly potent magic stored up inside them, I think they'll be highly important in future books.

Also, I agree that Ron has to do something big. Hermione helped be a hero in book 3, but Ron hasn't had all that much action. JKR is too smart to leave him around as a "lovable sidekick" he's much more than that.

I think the Dudleys will become important. The scene I keep recalling is where the Dursley's explain about Lily Potter, and Petunia bursts into tears. I realize they're tears of frustration and anger and disgust and humiliation, but that's still perfectly good emotion. I've always considered the Dursleys one of JKR's few weaknesses, they seem a bit cartoonish, so it would be more her style to have them turn out to be very important later on in the books.

Other characters I think will be important:
-Arabella Figg-as for that "ancient magic" protecting Harry, well she is quite old, now isn't she? ;-) I believe she certainly has something to do with Harry's welfare at the Dursleys. At first, I thought, why don't the Dursley's give him up for adoption or something? But I was thinking, maybe Ms. Figg has a big part in all this. She can protect him while walking the streets, keep an eye on Harry to make sure he doesn't make a prat of himself and get killed, and keep him from getting killed in Muggle ways, i.e. getting hit by a bus coming out of the zoo. (Now there's an ending!) The Dursley's left him with her because 1)She was no doubt enthusiastic about it and 2)the Dursley's didn't realize it of course, but it means that Harry's not left alone in the house. There's ancient magic protecting Harry, but I'm not sure that extends to him being alone, by himself, in a Muggle world. She's no doubt very important.

-The Old Crowd, i.e. Lupin, Sirius, etc. I feel very strongly that we will learn much about Snape, he's hiding many things, and I feel they're important. As for the bat animagus theory, that might not be that far off. Something's sure off with him, besides his being a pain in the behind. His actions (going back to the Deatheaters? They'll kill him! Hmm...) will be highly important, as will those by Hagrid, who is probably going back to the giants, to help convince them to join forces with the Good wizards. I believe some of the spoilers regarding that ^^ are probably true, :-(
Yay for the return of Lupin! YAY! And Sirius kicks booty as well.

-Susan Bones. I hadn't even remembered her till I clicked on this thread, but I recall noting how she was the only non-mentioned character in book 1, and it's out of character for JKR to only have one person out of a group be superfluous. Unfortunately, I don't remember the tie to her family. But as she's apparently Harry's age she'll probably be important. OOH! LIGHTBULB! What if Susan Bones is Harry's girlfriend in book five? I don't have any idea, it just occured to me just now. Hmm.

-The Longbottoms, Godric's Hollow, Mundungus Fletcher, Fudge, Doris Crockford, Dedalus Diggle(mentioned twice--in Leaky Cauldron, and responsible fr "shooting stars over Kent), the Centaurs, and Krum will be important I believe. About Krum:After we saw how disgusted he was at the disappearance of Karkaroff, I'm quite sure he's on our side. As he's now no doubt graduated, I believe he'll play an important part in the book, maybe as a spy? he's fast on that broom. Plus he looks evil . :-) Also, I believe Fleur Delacour will come back, though maybe not as an important part. She said she hopes for a job at the school to work on her English, maybe an assistant for the new DADA teacher, who's supposedly a girl? Female bonding? :-D

-Ooo another one...Oliver Wood, perhaps? She mentioned she'd kill off a "fan of Harry's", I'm thinking somebody else, but who knows. I have no idea, I just thought of that one too. (So no spoiler here, just a guess!)

Whew. Hopefully the book will come out soon enough and we'll find out once and for all!

pinefresh! my mom and i were tlaking about susan bones yesterday! something i noticed in the PS movie, when susan is called to the sorting hat, the camera takes a shot of harry's face. his face looks like he's just noticed something really interesting, and his posture straightens visibly. (trying to look impressive). but this is movie-based. i'll have to go back and check it out in the books, but i think susan and harry would make a very cute couple. the bones were another family that fought voldemort, and i think that's basis enough for more developement of her character, but i'm not writing it.

(if i was, you'd all have book 5 in your hands right now. lol!)

No way, Harry can never go with Susan Bones. That's absurd to even think about. No chance. So what if they her family fought against Voldemort, Harry possibly can't go after her.He's got Cho on his hand already.

i always considered cho to be stuck-up fluff. i never really see what part she played except a passing love interest. emphasis on passing(!). like ron drooling over fleur. cho's gonna be all weepy over cedric, but if she isn't, who wants to be second on the list? not harry, i think.

Maybe Cedric Diggory will return as a ghost.

Also in reply what people said about the "bad wizards" being in slytherin, wasn't wormtail a gryffindor? I don't think his house was mentioned, but as he was friends with all those gryffindors....

Yeah, but then he never really had the personality for it, did he? He was always latching onto other people, wanting to be brave and get glory but not able to do it for himself. He specifically picked his friends who were big and strong and capable, who could protect him.

It's never alluded to in the books, but I'm convinced he was in Slytherin. He may not have had the determination for it, but he certainly didn't the loyalty or bravery for Gryffindor! :p

But if he was in slytherin, why wasn't he friends with Snape or another slytherin?

Yeah, there's a point I never do get around. The other Slytherins would have made friends with him, or beat him up for trying to make friends with Gryffindors. It's most likely he was in Gryffindor, I just can't see him in Gryffindor.

But who knows, with the stuff JK thinks up! It could have been more tolerant back then, when he was a kid. And James and co. seem like the type of guys who wouldn't care what house someone was from. Scratch that, James and Lupin don't seem like the kinda guys who would care what house someone was from! :p

I doubt he will, Imean what position will he play

I think that there are 2 prefects, 1 boy, 1 girl from each house from 5th & 6th year,,,the 5th years become the next 6th year prefects, and the 5th years are 'new' and 2 heads, 1 = head boy, 1= head girl, each year, so,
5th = 8,
6th = 8,
HB+HG=2 would be 18 total for a school that JKR says numbers about 1000 students...
I never got that total, doesn't seem right, unless the houses are of quite different sizes...maybe lots more Hufflepuffs & Ravenclaws, a few more Slytherins than Gryffindors, and the smallest house is Gryffindor??

I think Ron could be a keeper..that seems right...then later does get his wish fulfilled & becomes captain...

I hope Ron joins the gryffindor team. But I wonder if they going to play quiditch at all. Isn't it too dangerous with voldemort rising.

Talking of new characters the name i use is one of them.... and they do play qudditch....the new place they visit is nazkaban, not as bad as azkaban more like a state penitentary...sirius goes there. Harry becomes captain..and prefect same with hermione. Ron feels disappointed, because if you do not become a prefect in your fifth then you can not become head boy, and Ron saw him self as head boy and captain. They have tryouts and i do not know who makes it. Harry does say he thinks ron has become better, and Dudley starts befriending harry because of the bad dreams he was having. A child by the name of Aylar Dumbledore joins Gryffindor, but the hat stuttered out slytherin first....the child(probably dumbledores son or something) seemed disappointed that he was not in Slytherin. Harry runs in to Voldemort alot right off the bat.

Where did you get the crazy ideas of Aylzar Dumbledore being Dumbledore's son and upsetted that's he's not in Slytherin. That's impossible. The Ron and Harry stuff might be true but the Dumbledore thingy, noooooo way.

I think Tcieneb Delonra is joking. Or I hope so.