SPOILER WARNING: New Harry Potter Book Six Title

JK has updated her website with book six info. Please refer to MuggleNet's latest announcement.

According to Jo's official site, there is a new title for the next book. If you noticed, the door is now openable and you're confronted with a brick wall. If you click certain bricks in sequence, a piece of paper with a possible title will be revealed. The correct sequence of bricks isn't being revealed as of yet, but we will give you an image of where they're located...

JKR's brick wall (http://www.mugglenet.com/viewer/?image_location=brickwall.jpg)

The new title for Book Six has potentially been revealed by JK. Whether or not this is confirmed is unclear at this time, but it's looking pretty good. Please come here and discuss the potential title(s) and remember to cover any potential spoilers using the SPOILER TAGS

The new book six could be:


Harry Potter and The Half Blood Prince

Phew, an official topic. :) Thanks, Morgoth!

I'm really, really excited! But what exactly is JKR playing at? If this was supposed to be the titled for CoS, is she just trying to trick people who didn't know this tidbit?

My whole post is probably spoiler talk, so just to be safe:

I think that the Half Blood Prince that JKR refers to in her potential book 6 title has got to be Voldemort, because Book 6 is rather too late to be introducing another major character since JKR is going to be needing to focus on wrapping the whole series up by now. In some interview, I read that JKR originally was going to title Book 6 Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, but decided against it, so using some logic, it can be assumed that since COS was centered around Voldemort, Book 6 will follow the same pattern.

What confuses me about this new title is the mentioning of a Prince. I was not aware that there was some sort of magical community royalty present in the books, so if this done is fact refer to Voldemort as the Half Blood, where the Prince title came from will be interesting to note. Voldemort's father and grandparents were known to be rich at the Muggle Mansion, so perhaps there was some sort of royal connection there which could explain why Voldy's father wanted to avoid scandal that could be caused by marrying a witch, and so he might have dumped Voldy's mother as a result. The Prince title might also refer to Voldemort's connection to Salazar Slytherin who could be the King of Serpents and so that might make Voldemort a Prince of Serpents.

The correct sequence was posted in another thread, along with an image of them.

Perhaps this is just like a 'Vault' Of JK's, and that's just a red herring? WHy do we know this is the title? All we're doing is assuming, and this could just be a prank of hers, getting back at those hackers

this is very interesting...and im going to believe it...though who could it be....i dont think its going to be harry seeing as it has 'AND' which indicates it being an other person...

I don't think it's okey. It's just too... I don't know... It gives away too much. And it doesn't really have atmosphere. I just can't say it better. I think it's fake.

Thanks, Morgoth! I sure hope this is true! I think this is a good title!

How on earth can we discuss this all in spoiler mode. Why would people who are afraid of spoilers even click on a thread that has SPOILER written in capital letters?

The way I see it, the Half-Blood Prince could be either Harry or Voldemort. I don't know anyone else significant who is a half-blood.

I also think that prince might not be literal, as in royalty. It could mean the figurehead or the top of something. Like, Ozzy Osbourne is the Prince of Darkness, but not royalty, you know? That's just one of the thoughts I had.

If it refers to Harry, I think it WOULD relate to royalty, and he would find out he has to unite everyone in the war against Voldemort.

If it refers to Voldemort, I think it would have something to do with his descent from Salazar Slytherin.

I don't know about that title.

I reckon it's true! Thanks Jo! I was so excited when I saw it! My hands were shaking like mad! I thought I was the first to discover it. But I wasn't. :(

Okey, I read "price" instead of "prince". Silly me. Now I think it's very good, but I have no idea who it's reffering to. It's a bit like "A prince of darkness".

Edit: I think it's either Voldemort or Harry, but I really thought of Harry in first place. I think he should be someone important, cause it's like this - he finds out that he's more and more important to the magical world.
But it's strange - does it mean, that the title says "Harry Potter and Harry Potter" ?? :huh:

How on earth can we discuss this all in spoiler mode. Why would people who are afraid of spoilers even click on a thread that has SPOILER written in capital letters?


Yes, I agree, its a bit annoying reading things put into Spoiler tags, and so if someone ventures into a thread titled: SPOILER WARNING, they deserve what they get.

I really like the new title, it's simple and clean like all the rest of JKR's titles. If you look at the history of her wordings, you'll see that they are all very straight forward but they seem to emcompass the whole plot of the book in just a few words:
Book 1: Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone
Book 2: Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets
Book 3: Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Book 4: Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
Book 5: Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
Book 6: Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince

The titles all reveal so much if you've read the book and you know what happens in them, but before you are aware of the plot, the titles can be very misleading which makes them fun to dissect.

can i state what i asid again as i dont think any one pays attention to my posts and i would like to know what people think

i dont think it refers to harry as 'AND' is used indicating an other....

I don't think that's the title mainly because it's seems too obvious. For the other 5 books, before we read the books, we didn't know what the significance of the title was yet (the sorcerer's stone, the chamber of secrets, the prisoner of azkaban, the goblet of fire, and the order of the phoenix). We didn't find out what each of them were until we read the book.
As for the 'half-blood prince', i think the obvious part is that it is probably voldemort, or harry.. but i could be wrong [=

I am sorry to cast a little doubt on the thrill everyone is having, but as posted here http://www.cosforums.com/showpost.php?p=910473&postcount=1

The title shown in the Room with the fan was the working title of the first book, now I hope that J K Rowling is not playing games with us and she has found some way of making the next book fit the old title

Edit my mistake in the title

Book 6: Harry Potter and the Spoiler
That kinda caught me off guard! ;)

Anyhow, what does everyone think of this book? It sounds to me like the title of a Tolkien-esque knockoff fantasy.

can i state what i asid again as i dont think any one pays attention to my posts and i would like to know what people think

i dont think it refers to harry as 'AND' is used indicating an other....

Please don't take it personally, especially when its a topic like this. We all have a lot of thoughts, and just because we don't respond doesn't mean we don't read what you say.

I think that the AND could be misleading us as well. Just because it the titles makes us think that the Half Blood Prince doesn't include Harry, that doesn't mean it won't be him.

I am sorry to cast a little doubt on the thrill everyone is having, but as posted here http://www.cosforums.com/showpost.php?p=910473&postcount=1

The title shown in the Room with the fan was the working title of the first book, now I hope that J K Rowling is not playing games with us and she has found some way of making the next book fit the old titleAs posted there, the working title was Harry Potter and the Half Loved Prince, clearly relating to Harry himself.

Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince, the new title, could refer to anyone.

I think she's playing with us!

I did a search for half-blood prince and found this (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=25703) thread, which links us to an interview (http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/tv_film/newsid_2353000/2353727.stm). In this interview it says that the working title for CoS was the Half-Loved Prince, not the Half-Blood Prince, but that is a mistake on the site's part. Anyways, there are some good points in that thread as well. Rotsiepots brought up a good point:

I think "prince" would have been used as a metaphor. Salazar Slytherin could be seen as a sort of figurehead, or "King" of the pure-blood cause and his descendants could be princes.

The poster Girl also says:

When JK thought of the title "The Half Blood Prince" she had planed for the book to be about Volderemot`s past when he was Tom Riddle. We were to find out alot more about Tom life but the book became more about the Chamber instead.

which I think is a good point. This book will probably deal with the idea of Tom Riddle being Voldemort's past.

the new title, could refer to anyone.
It could. Harry's father, Dumbledore, Voldemort, Harry himself. Someone out of the past. :huh:

It could. Harry's father, Dumbledore, Voldemort, Harry himself. Someone out of the past. :huh:

What about Hagrid? We don't know much about giant society, do we? Could they have royalty? He already know Hagrid is a half giant.

other threads have also came up with lupin and hagrid

Heres an "all in one" image for you all :)

i am more inclined to think that the new book will deal more with LV's past, as tom riddle, and its relation to harry's present and future. and i feel this way because of, obviously the book's title, but also because of something that struck when re-reading phoenix. i was intrigued to say the least that DD continued to refer to LV as "tom" while they dueled. and it got me thinking, is this the key to defeating LV? is LV's weakness his past?

the only person who LV fears is DD, and the only person who calls LV "tom" is DD. are these two facts related? i would like to think that they are.

Please please please, everyone, stop using spoiler tags! They make it hard for the people who made the conscious decision of entering a thread that said SPOILER WARNING in it to read!

I'm not even going to try and speculate on the title, since we didn't know what the chamber of secrets was, who the prisoner of azkaban was, and so on. But it certainly sounds interesting, doesn't it?

One half blood not mentined is Crookshanks...my mind's eye sees a puss-in-boots character rising up agains evil!

I've posted this in another thread, but as this is the official one...

I think it's likely that the title could refer to another prophecy. Perhaps one that Voldemort knows about and Dumbledore doesn't. Was it really necessary to show us the manifestation of prophecies in the Department of Mysteries if that was to have no further role in the story? After all, Harry could have found out straight from Dumbledore (obviously a lot else happens there, but that's straying from the point).

I think that perhaps Voldemort knows of a prophecy that foretells the rise of a half-blood prince. Obviously, he would want to be that person and the prophecy Harry knows about obviously stands in his way. If Harry is a half-blood with the power to vanquish Voldemort, he is the biggest threat to Voldemort realising his ambition. The prince bit might refer to ruling over people because, powerful though Voldemort once was, he was never in control of the wizarding world.

Or, the other thought I had was that Voldemort despises his own half-blood origin and despises it in others. He knows that the rise of a half-blood prince has been predicted and as such wants to kill anyone that could possibly be that prince. This would explain not only his vehement attempts to kill Harry (who, with this inherent power he has is obviously a candidate for becoming a prince, in Voldemort's eyes at least), but why he embarked on a campaign of killing muggle-born witches and wizards as well. Also, it would be further reason for him to be specifically looking to kill the Potters - to avoid the establishment of a new dynasty.

All speculation of course.

Originally posted by justineee:
For the other 5 books, before we read the books, we didn't know what the significance of the title was yet.

I don't think this is strictly true. (If you're American this might not apply) When reading the first book I had heard of the Philosopher's Stone from other sources and guessed that it might be used to revive Voldemort (although, just like Harry I leapt to suspect Snape as the agent involved). Besides, with the long discussion we'll probably get on this topic, it's anything but obvious what the new title alludes to.

As for 'Harry Potter and' ruling out the possibility of the half-blood prince being Harry, I don't think it's safe to say it couldn't be. Especially if he doesn't know it refers to him for most of the book.

Just saw it. Is this really the title now? It doesn't sound very much like Jo...but never mind that. It does logically fall in the sequence of titles, because:

Book 1 - Philosopher's Stone - object
Book 2 - Chamber of Secrets - place
Book 3 - Prisoner of Azkaban - person
Book 4 - Goblet of Fire - object
Book 5 - Order of the Phoenix - er...it's not really a place, don't know what to call it actually...
Book 6 - Half Blood Prince? - person...

This was speculated before, but it could be just that, guesswork.

In any case I don't think the Half-Blood Prince relates to Harry Potter himself. The title suggests that it's someone outside of Harry. So it could be a. Voldemort or b. A totally new character.

can someone tell me the order of the bricks? (like what order the press them in)

The title of the thread tells people theres spoilers :s

Please don't use the tags, it makes everything difficult to read...

[edit, I posted an image with the order on page one, that should tell you all you need to know :) ]

The Half-Blood Prince has to be Voldemort. Think about it - it was the original title for CoS. We didn't know about Lupin or any other crazy characters you guys are speculating about - we only knew about Voldemort/Tom Riddle. Therefore, it must be him.

This seems reasonable to be a title. Much more than that "Pillar of Storge" nonsense that had been going around. "Halfblood Prince" sounds darker than "parental affection". I think the sap in the books is for the most part done.

Gonna go ahead and use spoiler box because people tend to get a bit angry at the slightest offense here...

Hmmm. I'm guessing the title refers to either Voldemort, or both Voldemort and Harry. It'd be kinda silly if it referred only to Harry. That'd be like calling the book...

"Harry Potter and...um...himself"

I actually found the new info in the "FAQ" section to be more interesting. Especially when talking about the prophecy. She says she specifically worded it that way for a reason. Gee, ya think she added that after bapping a certain actor on the head? ;)

If this is really the title, I don't think "half Blood Prince" refers to Harry. Someone has already mentioned this, but I think it's going to have something to do with the giants. Grawp coming back with hagrid in OoTP is just so random. It must have some other meaning somehow. But, the giant aren't central enough to the plot surrounding Harry right now, so I don't know. Maybe it's something new entirely.

Or there is the possibility that it has something to do with whoever is going to learn to do magic late in life.

I didn't think about this being the original title for CoS. There goes my theory.

WEEEE! Even if this isn't the real title, I'm excited that we've finally returned to the tension of an upcoming book. I was missing the tension that led up to the fifth book. A couple rumors of different titles flying around.... Yay!

other threads have also came up with lupin and hagrid
Lupin! Ooh, I like that. He does conduct himself like Royalty, despite his shabby appearance. Plus, that'll ensure a lot more Lupin in books 6 and 7.

(Though, I still think it's probably Voldemort, or some combination of Harry and Voldemort.)

Eh, I don't think it's the actual title of Book 6, a few ideas I have:

1. She's just outright playing with us, expanding on the prank of Storge.
2. Chapter 1, that she keeps trying to use in every book, but it gave too much away, and now she is using for Book 6, Chapter 1 finally, may be called this.
3. Another reference back to Chamber of Secrets, having a great deal of clues for what's coming in this book.
4. The original intention of CoS plot, being fleshed out in Book 6.

I also think that prince might not be literal, as in royalty. It could mean the figurehead or the top of something. Like, Ozzy Osbourne is the Prince of Darkness, but not royalty, you know? That's just one of the thoughts I had.I agree with Witflick, it could mean being at the top of something. Harry isn't royality but he is very brilliant. I don't know exactly how to back it up, but Ozzy isn't a prince but they call him The Prince Of Darkness. Witflick...you made a very good point and thats changed my whole perspective on the "maybe" to be title of Book 6. Can't wait to read it. The only thing I don't get is why they would have Prince in there...it doesn't really flow and sound like a Harry Potter title to me...

OK Spanish speakers. I have been trying to translate the so called "Title" of the 6th book, and....heck I can't find a proper word for Half-blood

So I have come up with:
“Harry Potter y el Principe Medio Puro”
or
“Harry Potter y el Principe Mestizo”

And I don't like either one. Any suggestion?

The way I see it, the Half-Blood Prince could be either Harry or Voldemort. I don't know anyone else significant who is a half-blood.

I also think that prince might not be literal, as in royalty. It could mean the figurehead or the top of something. Like, Ozzy Osbourne is the Prince of Darkness, but not royalty, you know? That's just one of the thoughts I had.

If it refers to Harry, I think it WOULD relate to royalty, and he would find out he has to unite everyone in the war against Voldemort.

If it refers to Voldemort, I think it would have something to do with his descent from Salazar Slytherin.
Hmmm.... JKR mentioned in the March interview, that Lupin is a half blood. :huh:

I don't want to be spoiled but could someone please post the brick sequence?

I posted an image on the firts page, it shows the order :)

I know that this time if it is a joke I will be a little mad. I'm tired of hearing about possible titles already...

ok I don't know how to do spoiler tags and this isn't really a spoiler just what I think...anyway Spoilers..

My first thought was that it did refer to Harry simply because J.K. Rowling mentioned that we would find out what his parents did and how they had all that money...it all sort of ties together. Didn't Rowling say that James had so much money that he didn't even have to work.

I don't know how I feel about this yet because I don't want to have it not be true and invest time in a theory for this.

Post #1426 by Donna, here. (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=27389&page=48&pp=30)

OK Spanish speakers. I have been trying to translate the so called "Title" of the 6th book, and

Has this possible title for book 6 been used on any Spanish- speaking websites yet? I was going to try to translate it too, but i didn't like mine either.

:evil: I came to this thread ready to discuss the 6th book title, and specifically chose it because of the SPOILER WARNING, thinking I'd be able to read posts from other people who already knew the title.

SO WHY ALL THE BLOODY SPOILER CENSORING? (Yes, I meant to yell that because that's how frustrated I am!)

Somebody let me know when there's a thread that every other post won't be censored.

:upset: **Frustrated!**

Mark Evans ?? ?

maybe we may get a bit more info on the 1st when she will be updating the wizard of the month....

Maybe....

Its not a person, which is very easy to assume at the moment. It could be a book, not sure why a book is important but oh well...minor point. We should be more openminded about what the title is refering too, it could be misleading you know.

Are we sure that the combination that opens to the title currently under discussion is the only combination that opens the wall? According to my math, there are 3125 possible combinations to the wall.... perhaps this one is a red herring?

:evil: I came to this thread ready to discuss the 6th book title, and specifically chose it because of the SPOILER WARNING, thinking I'd be able to read posts from other people who already knew the title.

SO WHY ALL THE BLOODY SPOILER CENSORING? (Yes, I meant to yell that because that's how frustrated I am!)

Somebody let me know when there's a thread that every other post won't be censored.

:upset: **Frustrated!**
Good point. Hmmm. If you just highlight the spoiler boxes, you'll be able to read the text in them.
You can also right click in a blank spot on the page and click on "select all"

Hmmm I do not like the sound of this new title, I hope i's just a rumour. It sounds clumsy...

I'm kind of excited about the Book title. I think it really has thrown a lot of people off from what it would have been. I dont have any views on who'd be the Half-Blood Prince. I personally like surprises :)

perhaps this one is a red herring?
If it is, she needs to get offline and back to work writing, before Dan starts to get grey hair.

I also read, about the storge rumor, that she says she was offended, and told fans to get a grip. Honestly, if she was offended by that rumor, she needs to get a grip!

Are we sure that the combination that opens to the title currently under discussion is the only combination that opens the wall? According to my math, there are 3125 possible combinations to the wall.... perhaps this one is a red herring?

That's only if you can hit the same brick multiple times, which you can't.

hmm.. dont think that the half-blood prince is referring to Harry. Like someone said thats like saying Harry Potter and the himself. I think it may be LV, cause I can't see it being anyone else.

The other combinations lead to nothing, and cause the bricks to reappear and you start over. So no, there's no other way to get into it.

This looks real to me. I don't know why she would do this if it's not. It's not April Fool's day or anything. :p

That's only if you can hit the same brick multiple times, which you can't.

Thus, English major, not math ;).....

But there still are a lot of combinations- I was just hoping someone will admit to cracking the code by the programming and therefore knows for sure that there's only one combo that goes anywhere ;)

How I got it...

There are five bricks that can be pushed. In this order they appear on the wall.



Brick One

Brick Two
Brick Three




Brick Four


Brick Five

It's not exact but you can find them pretty easily.

The code is 34251. There are only 120 possible codes and that's number 61! The code is 34251... I'm thinking that it might have a phone counterpart like the MAGIC code, but all I've come up with is DIAL. Hardly interesting...

Good point. Hmmm. If you just highlight the spoiler boxes, you'll be able to read the text in them.
You can also right click in a blank spot on the page and click on "select all"

:clap: Whizbang121 - you are my new favorite person - thank you for explaining!

**aahhh, feels much better***

I am disinclined to take this new title as gospel. It might be a working title but that does not necessarily mean that it is the final one. (Of course it would be spectacular if it was, I've just sat shaking staring at the words Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince in rapt astonishment for the last 10 minutes) :lol:

In my opinion, a number of things that people have said regarding the connections between CoS and HBP as being related to the descendancy of Voldemort are skating neatly along the edge of the whole concept. I think that it is entirely possible that the term Half Blood Prince may in fact refer to the arrogance of Voldemort, after all, do we not learn in CoS that Voldemort was 'Lording' it over his friends whilst at school and has a serious superiority complex!

Having said that, where it may be applicable to Harry I must confess to some confusion: Voldemort is a half-blood defined by being half-muggle, half-pureblood (presumably the Slytherin connection comes from his mother), however Harry is technically not half-blood in the classic sense of the word, his mother AND Father were magical, but his mother was a 'mudblood', so where do the definitions lie and does this potentially reflect the significance/assignation of this title to one particular character???

Let us assume for a moment that the title refers to Harry. Something is seriously wrong with that: The book titles are Harry Potter and.... so if the title refers to Harry himself as being some kind of wizarding royalty (and we know that for some reason or other his parents were famous in the community before the death of Voldemort), then technically the title implys Harry Potter and...himself. Nah, I think not. (Incidently, I'm not being rude but does the surname Potter or even Evans for that matter sound particularly Royal?? Our Royals are named 'Windsor' after their ancestral family seat. 'House of Windsor' and all that...)

Now, let us assume that it refers to the dreadfully vainglorious Voldemort and his apparent connection to the Wizarding Royalty that is Salazar Slytherin. It would appear to me, that this title reveals everything and nothing which is partly why I think that it might end up changing before publication.
Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince would then appear to imply 'Harry Potter and Lord Voldemort', which, given the ambiguousness of some of her previous titles (HP and the Philosophers stone) which more or less tell us the key element in the book, would appear to make logical sense. However, surely if that were the case then Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince should be the title of Book 7????
However, I could be wrong. Also note that she states that it is only a 'potential' title and not set in Granite.

Veq.

P.S. I agree with the Spoiler white-out grumbles: If someone enters a thread with the words SPOILER WARNING in the title they have only get themselves to blame if they get 'spoiled'. :lol:

P.P.S Just to be on the safe side: I read on another thread that somewhere JKR has confirmed the rumors regarding the length of HBP (aka Book 6) as possibly exceeding OotP. Does anyone know the URL of a news article on this???

thanks for the code angel spirit i finally got in whoo!

I agree with methos that it might be refering to Mark Evans. We already know a lot about Snape and Voldemort. It seems that the titles of the books have usually been about things, or people that we don't find out a lot about until we read the actual book. So who ever this title may be refering to, I think it is someone we don't really know yet.

Are we sure that the combination that opens to the title currently under discussion is the only combination that opens the wall? According to my math, there are 3125 possible combinations to the wall.... perhaps this one is a red herring?
It is a very good question. It looks quite probable that (but maybe later) other combinations will work too and will lead us to other rooms. After all, the room itself slides, so there may be other rooms that could appear if the wall slide in other directions.

I looked a little bit at how the site is done, the combination is stored in a variable called "com1", which seems to imply that maybe later there may be a "com2" variable for another combinations. But for now, that "com2" variable does not exist yet ...

Why are people saying they'll be upset if this turns out not to be the title of Book 6.

JKR never said it was. She had the website set so that when you click the right combo of bricks you get a piece of paper with a sentence on it. No indication whatsoever what the sentence means. It's the rabid fans that have "ASSUMED" that her intention was to give the Book title. I don't believe it is the book title, I think it's something else.

The code is 34251. There are only 120 possible codes and that's number 61! The code is 34251... I'm thinking that it might have a phone counterpart like the MAGIC code, but all I've come up with is DIAL. Hardly interesting...

I numbered the bricks differently, top to bottom, therefore mine came out 32415..... but it doesn't code out either, except as dial 1.

[QUOTE=Tane]There could be something incredibly important that we are missing, for example who is his mother, did she die of natural causes or die saving Tom like Lily did for Harry against his father perhaps who could have hated wizards that much that he thought he would kill Tom as a baby, it would parallel with Harry's life in a way.[QUOTE]

Hmm, never thought of that one! Perhaps, he was saved from Grindelwald, the dark wizard Dumbledore defeated in 1945. That would kind of parallel things.

Hmm...weird, far out, never gonna happen theory coming on here....So, there are lots of similarities between Voldemort and Hitler (and I'm sure most realize this). And, Grindelwald was defeated in the same year Hitler committed suicide. Maybe that sparks a Grindelwald-Voldemort connection? Meh, I'm reaching.

http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/godricshollow/inter_CBBC.htm

The above web site has many of JK comments about half bloods and who is and isn't and what it means to her. There is also her quote about which other books would bear this title where she says she rather liked the title. Here's hoping we are not being played with! Just something to help those creative thoughts along. Have Fun

I'm not going to use Spoiler blocking because the entire thread is already labeled SPOILER:

I am not convinced that this title won't turn out to be a scam, but having it brought up brings me back to a question I've been curious about ever since I first read the first book: Why does Voldemort have a royal title?

He is constantly referred to as Lord Voldemort. In the instances where we have gotten background info on LV and his family, it always leaves the same question in my mind as to how he started out as Tom Riddle (an ordinary "commoner" if you will), and became Lord Voldemort. I used to just shrug it off as an evil crazy man's delusions of grandeur. Since Voldie already has a title (Lord), I don't see how he could be a Prince as well.

If the title were to be a reference to Harry, it wouldn't necessarily be redundant. It would be be possible for him (and everyone else) to discover that there was such a thing (as a half blood prince) and then come to the realization that it's him.

All I can say right now is I would have been happier if a Book 6 release date had been behind that wall on JKR's site .... :p

Why are people saying they'll be upset if this turns out not to be the title of Book 6.
I don't believe anyone said that, at least not in this thread.

If she's deliberately messing with us, though, I don't think that reflects well on her. That, and the fact she seems to be easily offended--by a simple rumor! All in my humble opinion, of course.

i dont even want to think of this as the title, and someone, iforget who and where i saw it (sorry) saying how we havent known anything about the book titles before the books came out (unless you want to say we knew what Azkaban was) but really, i'm not going to try and draw anything from it thanks, though really it is impossible not to think about what it means, what i'm saying is that anything even i think of...i'm not going to count it as a theory, at least for now

I numbered the bricks differently, top to bottom, therefore mine came out 32415..... but it doesn't code out either, except as dial 1.

I tried both numbers on the phone and just the number one but nothing worked. I think they just wanted to put it somewhere in the middle of the possible codes.

I agree with sindatur. As of now, this is only a sentence that may possibly be the title of book six, so I've got nothing to speculate upon until Ms. Rowling confirms that this is indeed the correct title.

I personally think Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince would make a very cool title. Then again, I also thought that "Harry Potter and the Pillar of Storge" would have been quite cool, and look how that turned out. :p

He is constantly referred to as Lord Voldemort. In the instances where we have gotten background info on LV and his family, it always leaves the same question in my mind as to how he started out as Tom Riddle (an ordinary "commoner" if you will), and became Lord Voldemort. I used to just shrug it off as an evil crazy man's delusions of grandeur. Since Voldie already has a title (Lord), I don't see how he could be a Prince as well. Almost every member of the British Royal Family has a dukedom or peerage somewhere. Prince Charles, for example, is also the Duke of Cornwall, among many other titles. It is perfectly possible for LV to have several.

For the record, though, I don't think it is him.

From the interview:

Like Hitler! See! I think it’s the case that the biggest bully takes their own defects and they put them on someone else, and they try to destroy them. And that’s what he [Voldemort] does. That was very conscious - I wanted to create a villain where you could understand the workings of his mind, not just have a 2-D baddie, dressed up in black, and I wanted to explore that and see where that came from. Harry in Book Four is starting to come to terms with what makes a person turn that way. Because they took wrong choices and he [Voldemort] took wrong choices from an early age.

Perhaps that "exploration" will be central to the plot of book 6.

:wow: This seems to have broken a record, 742 people online!

Since the whole thread is spoiler labeled I'm not inclined to use the spoiler tag. Don't use that against me :angel:

I don't think the title refers to Hagrid, Crookshanks or any other being/creature of that sort since those are half breeds. I think half bloods refers to wizards only.

The title IS confusing and intruiging just like a good book title should be. Personally I don't think it refers to Harry or Voldemort, at least not directly since that would be too obvious. It may have something to do with them, but I don't think that it means either of them.

While I'm at the topic: What's that whole pillar of storge business and why is JK offended of that title?

So, let's all think positive and take the title as a sign that book six will be out soon!!! :clap:

Don't know if this has been brought up but, does it mention anywhere that that's the title of book 6? I didn't see the words 'book 6' anywhere. How do we know it has anything to do with book 6 at all?

Edit: Yes it was mentioned. These posts pop up fast. In any case, I'm not ready to believe it until JK says: 'book 6's title will be...'.

Someone put out a video last week saying they hacked through the door somehow, and said that Pillar of Storge was the 6th book title. I don't think she was offended at the title persay, I think she was just saying it's not like her, and we should've known better than to fall for it.

The Half Blood Prince might refer to Voldemort, in my opinion, since we don't know much about his past except a few tidbits about who he is related to. The Riddle family is fairly wealthy, and they lived in a very well to do mansion in Little Hangleton, so perhaps Tom Riddle, the father of Voldemort, was some sort of Royalty where he lived. If he was, this would explain why Voldemort's father left his mother when he found out she was a witch. A member of a royal family that is made of muggles would not want to associate with a witch like Voldemort's mother was, so that might be why his father chose to leave her and have Voldemort raised as an orphan. Thus, the Half Blood Prince could very well be Voldemort.

Hmmm. I'm guessing the title refers to either Voldemort, or both Voldemort and Harry. It'd be kinda silly if it referred only to Harry. That'd be like calling the book...

"Harry Potter and...um...himself"



EXACTLY! It doesn't make any sense! I thought the same thing! (As you can see below. :))

I was writing this when the other thread about the half blood prince was closed, so I copied it and I'll just post it here.

If we were to be technical, Harry could be considered a half blood. I just don't see why JKR would recycle a former possible title for the second book and use it for the sixth book - even if Harry is "The Half Blood Prince." (Honestly, the title of the book translates into Harry Potter and Harry Potter if he is the prince. That does not make any sense whatsoever!) The plot isn't headed in the direction of a book all about Tom Riddle at this point. The original rumor was that the title would be released on July 1st. It is June 28th today. Is it not possible that she just has this title up to occupy our thoughts for now?

EDIT: Just to go along with the logic that Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince could be the title... What if behind the door we found this title: Harry Potter and the Great Alchemist? Obviously this could be Nicholas Flamel! But what if... (I'll let all of you go from there. :p )

well, i hate to say it but i think the title is fake. it just dosent seem to "Fit" with the other book titles or in my oppinion dose it have anything to do with harry defeting voldemort

well, i hate to say it but i think the title is fake. it just dosent seem to "Fit" with the other book titles or in my oppinion dose it have anything to do with harry defeting voldemort

Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince has the same sort of set up as Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, since both refer to a certain character in the series, and both add some other little detail about that person.

I really like this title, it fits well with the other titles which are all very clean and to the point. I doubt that the Prince in the title refers to anyone but Voldemort or perhaps Harry, since it is rather late in the series to consider adding in another major character when JKR should be focussing on wrapping her story up by now.

Harry Potter and the Halfblood Prince...
Harry Potter and the Pillar of Storge...

I'll go with the first hands down.

Pillar of Storge sounded like Pillar of Storage.

It fits with the other books, but in the end it will be the Publisher who has the last say.

I think it's either:

1. Voldemort-obvious possiblity but a-why would he be a prince b-prince of what and c-doesn't he reject his muggle side(father left him and mother when found out they were wizards and later voldy killed him)

2. Harry-again possiblity but also the same a and b for voldy

3. salazar slytherin-maybe was royalty back then? but then again he was pure blooded

4. Someone who is going to be introduced in the next book


This also asks several questions:

1. In the wizarding world is there royalty at all? I mean they already have the Ministry of Magic and we have not heard of an non-Muggle royalty in the present or past. Unless, it is like it is in Britain with royalty and a law-making
and abiding branch (the Ministry of Magic).

2. How did they become royalty? Maybe that just my habit of wanting more information then necessary but is still a good question.

3. Why are they royalty? (same reason as #2)

4. The most obvious question to be answered: Who is the Half Blood Prince?


Now that I have been able to vent out these things it has become relatively clear to whom the Half Blood Prince is.....Tom Marvolo Riddle a.k.a Lord Voldemort a.k.a all those other aliases he has. If J.K.R. was going to use this as a title for CoS then who else could it be? Harry can't be it because if he was then the title would be Harry Potter and himself. It can't be Salazar because he isn't a half-blood. So the only reasonable answer is that Voldy is the half-blooded prince. J.K.R. probably scratched this title for CoS because we didn't know then that Tom hated and killed his father. And also, maybe because we don't know something that we shouldn't know until book 6.


So, maybe, maybe not but that seems logical to me.


EDIT-But wait why and how did he become a prince? Maybe Salazar Slytherin was royalty? But is there royalty? HA!!!! Too many questions...not enough answers.....also rrrrrrreeeaaaalllllllyyyyyyy confusing :huh: Hopefully, JKR talks about it in the July update of the website.....hopefully.....

I really don't know what to think of the title quite yet, but I am SO excited that something like this is happening. I missed the speculation.

First off, I don't see why J.K. Rowling would set up a door that has said Do Not Disturb for so long, getting rumors started, then open it up one day for you to figure out the combination, then give you something fake. It's a good way to get everyone really freaking upset at you. And if it was a old idea for a name, why would she suddenly post it up like that? As much as JKR hates fake names, I don't know why she would go add fuel to the fire.

Thus, I think that the name is most likely real.

I personally have no idea what the title would refer to, but I was also clueless about the Order of the Phoenix. I think it probably has more to do with old lives at Hogwarts, especially Tom Riddle. We've only gotten snippets of his life at the school, along with the Maruaders and Snape. I really, really hope that those are adressed in book 6. Plus, I still wonder about the whole Mark Evans thing. I don't think he's the one centered around the name, just because it would take a lot of explaining, and the book would have to be around that one character, who was only mentioned once previously,

i believe it refers to tom riddle because the tiltle was supposed to be the title for the chamberof secrets and in that book we first meet our good friend tom riddle so maybe it is him or anther character we met in COS (maybe Colin Creevey :td: ....not likely)

*i wrote this in the other forum about this title too

even if it is not called the half blood prince we still know it has something to do with one....maybe?

Personally, I suspect it might be a JKR prank. How about: Harry Potter and the Half ***ed Title :lol:

I like this title, and think it refers to Harry himself, although you could translate it into Harry Potter and Harry Potter, which is weird. He is kinda (key word there) like a prince in that he's famous and has money because he was born to Lily and James Potter and defeated Lord Thingy when he was a baby.

HpRoks please stop calling Voldemort Voly :angel: please please please

My thoughts...

1.Voldemort
2.Harry
3.Snape
4.Hagrid or Grawp
5. A charcter we haven't been introduced to.

The original rumor was that the title would be released on July 1st. It is June 28th today. Is it not possible that she just has this title up to occupy our thoughts for now?

Actually, I think she planned to release it on July 1st. And then when she found out about the 'Pillar of Storge' rumor, she decided to go ahead and have the site updated today. Regarding it just being a way to occupy our thoughts, she's said (don't remember where, though) that she's going to use a discarded first chapter from another book in Book 6. That first chapter could very well give her a legitimate reason to use this (discarded) title as the title for Book 6. So, it could be the real thing and not just something to keep us busy.

Since the title was on a spare peice of paper behind the wall, I think she might have just put it there trying to confuse us with a disgarded title.

I also think it might just be a fake, it is a bit of a lame/cliched title....

The Pillar of Storge sounded better :p

sorry i meant stop calling him *voldy ......sorry once again

well have you noticed that in all the books the title relates to the book some how? like in the philosiphers stone, the book is baout *** phillosiphers stone the chamber of secrets its about *** chamber of secrets and so on, and i just dont see how book 6 could be called harry potter and the half blood prince. because harry alredy has to defet voldemort so i dont see how the title could relate to *** book at all

I've been sitting here thinking for a little wondering who the half blood prince could be for a good little while and I have to think that it IS Harry! If some of the lead-ins were correct - we'd find out the source of Harry's wealth... some kind of royal inheritance? In the beginning everyone was soooo distraught that the Potters had died. Surely the magical community wasn't THAT tight-knit that everyone knew everyone. This made me think, what made the Potters so famous? (Besides being victims.) They were royalty! Or, at least, semi-royalty. The dark times of Voldemort lasted for years, that would explain why no royals were present or even talked about, no one could stand up to Voldemort, except Dumbledore. It just makes a lot of sense to me that it would be Harry. Why would it be Voldemort? He was craving power and that alone made him turn dark - if he were royalty, he'd already HAVE power! He wouldn't need followers, or anything that he had to TRY to get - he would have just HAD them. The only other person I can even think of would be Neville, as I've forgotten if the Longbottoms were pure-blood or not. And, as someone said, it's way to late to introduce a new main character with the series wrapping up.

Just my thoughts :)

edit: heck, no one else is bothering to use the spoiler tags, why me? :P

i agree with Aramina.....and Rhys Pillar is definatley not a better title :p

After I read the title (for the first time) - I definately thought it was reffering to Voldemort, but like some of you, that would be too obvious. But, if it is a rejected title to COS, then to me it can't really be anyone but Tom Riddle.

But then again, it could just be a trick played by JK to make the rumours about "Pillar..." going around.

you have a good point there.

maybe it refers to voldemort being the death eaters half blood prince?

even if it is not called the half blood prince we still know it has something to do with one....maybe?


Why? and i said voldy not voly. If it's that thing with JKR saying not to say voldy then she was just kidding...she said that in a recent post...but no hard feelings :cool: or anything just why?


P.S.- I know this was off-topic, I'm sorry it won't happen again...so whoever wants to talk about anything or the voldy the just owl me.

P.P.S.- To make this on-topic, why would JKR be kidding? That would be just wrong I had to search EVERYWHERE to find someone who slipped and said the title and/or the combo. I did though, on mugglenet.com comments. If you scroll down someone says the combo. I don't know who though. And sorry to that person if you get in trouble. I'm just speaking the truth.

The half blood prince just sounds tacky :D
It doesnt even say thats a title, its just a page with Harry Potter and The Half Blood Prince written on it, we all assumed its the book 6 title.

Its revenge for us "hacking" the site I tell you!

that is exactly what i though youdodoodletoo

OK if this is the name of the book and harry is the prince i dont think it will come out well for JO its all to lord of the rings aragorn and stuff i dont see her going down this path and lord of the rings fans i dont think will be happy.Y does harry have to be a prince to beat Tom

maybe it refers to voldemort being the death eaters half blood prince?

Ah... very good point - metapohorical use. Though no other titles of HP have been used that way, why start now? But, why not start now?!

I think it is most likely Voldemort. But it might not be because it being Voldemort is the obvious. Voldemort was in slytherin right? Well, don't you have to be a pureblood to be in slytherine? I know that this is totally off topic, but it's just a thought.

whaha, I also think the prince is Voldy, but my mom just said something really funny : I asked here what she thoughts about HBP were, she said "Ow, that's probably Hagrid!" :rotfl: LOL. Would be funny if Hagrid turned out to be the half blood prince of the Giants :rotfl:

I think Voldemort is potentially on the high possibility list to be the "Half Blood Prince". Since the story seems to be leading into the second 'big war' in the wizard world, I think that the darker forces could win at first, and Voldemort could declare himself 'prince', although 'king' would make more sense....and he already calls himself 'lord' ... i dunno ><

it has nothing to do with what jk said it just makes voldemort sound wussy.

p.s. could you mail me the combo for the wall i have been trying forever and i cannot figure it out

the title has nothing to do with any of *** books whatsoever haev any of you noticed that all *** harry potter book titles are related to *** plot os the procceding books? if you want more info on what i mean owl me

this is exactly what JK wanted.....us to be confused

We've got very little to guess the plot. But I would have to say it does refer to Voldemort, and during the 6th book he gets a lot, *a lot* stronger, lots of power, and it gets to a point where he "reigns", so he would be kind of like a prince...
It has to get worse before he's vanquished (7th book), but oh well, ignore this, lots of speculation...

the title has nothing to do with any of the books whatsoever have any of you noticed that all the harry potter book titles are related to the plot os the procceding books? if you want more info on what i mean owl me

I feel really stupid asking this, but how does one get to the door?

meaning the plot so far

maybe JK will tell us more on July 1st.....hopefully

click on the elastic thing by the key then open *** door and press *** correct order of bricks

Okay--here goes. Thanks for the listing on the bricks--I'd have been there for hours otherwise. Although I enjoy this title somewhat, I tend to agree with those who've said that something feels off about it. It's a perfectly legitimate option, of course, but it seems to lack the "punch" of the titles of Book Six's predecessors. It has that odd, unsettled feeling of a proto-title, like GoF's original title "Harry Potter and the Doomspell Tournament." I actually saw a cut-out poster in a bookstore advertising this title maybe 13 months before GoF came out. She may be recycling the proto-title to give us a feel for what's in the book. She may be yanking our collective chain after the Storge business. People seem to think she was overly sensitive to that--I don't think so. If you go to Mugglenet there's a description of how you could download the door file and get the Latin Characters on that link to read anything you choose. Anybody willing to put in the time could put together a reasonable hoax (in fact, some of the Mugglenet participants put together a more convincing video than the one that swept the net a few days ago). It could also be that she's sticking something in the "filler" space while she works on Book Six to prevent the next bozo with too much time on his or her hands from creating a series of faux-scholarly titles. She was probably also disturbed that because of her endorsement of the site, people will believe anything allegedly printed there. I don't think she overreacted, particularly since she's already warned us about popular net-titles like "Green Flame" and its ilk. It would be nice if she issues some sort of statement about it on the 1st when she updates the Wizard/Witch of the Month, but I don't think we dan necessarily bank on it.

As to the actual title--here come the spoilerboxes, sorry--I like to play it safe too. I've had Lani lecture me too many times to play fast and loose with something as uncofirmed as this is. Actually I posted this and I think the tags are just a silly waste of time at this point so this is just to let everyone know that I had the tags in and...nah, I'm too chicken.--Having been emboldended by an official announcement, say goodbye to my big white box.

Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince. I tend to subscribe to the theory that the "Prince" in question is most likely Voldemort (well Voldy as Tom Riddle) given his background and his taste for grandeur and fear. My second choice would be Harry. Though I have respect for Lupin as a person, as a wizard, and as a Professor, I don't think the "prince" would be Remus. Although, living incognito, accepting the brands of lycanthropy and shunning grandeur would be a truly regal act. Still, unlikely. Of course we have a new candidate, one Dean Thomas who is actually, like Harry, a half-blood of noble worth and parentage raised as a Muggle by Muggles. However, given that JKR has already indefinitely tabled the Dean backstory that was supposed to be in CoS and sacrificed it for Neville's development, this seems nearly impossible. In fact, I think I'll raise that to impossible because I don't think a titular character would be so secondary to the main plot that his story would be cut, eulogized and then given it's very own book while we all take a break and wait for the real action to start. Seamus is a viable possibility, but I have zero respect for Mrs. Finnigan so I'm just going to dismiss him [everybody remember this moment for when the book comes out and Seamus is the prince]. Hagrid and Grawp, the only other potiential "princes" I've seen mentioned on this thread, seem like VERY UNLIKELY candidates. Here's why:

1. Even though there are now more than 100 giants left, they remember and preserve family and tribal feuds from the time when there were more than 100 TRIBES worldwide. This history does not lend itself to a High-Kingship over the entire body of Giants, even if Fridwulfa's bloodlines were the right ones. Also, Gurghood is not hereditary and is a mark of force rather than honor, nobility or wisdom. It's more a "Me got bigger muscle than you; haw haw haw" mentality than a mentaility of leadership, so a prince would have to exert himself physically. That leaves Rubeus Hagrid and Grawp out in the cold because

2. Fridwulfa had herself a pair of shrimpy sons. Grawp was the Giant settlement's favorite kickball before Hagrid rescued him and it costs Hagrid all his strength and patience to keep Grawp manageable. Neither of them are strong enough to take the settlement by force and they aren't imposing enough in themselves to command any respect whatsoever.

So that leaves just one other possibility--Harry. Now it seems redundant but it might not be. What if Harry discovers that a Half-Blood prince was destined to unite the wizarding world and restore peace or "calm." What if, that great person, whoever he was, was destined to have great, almost unfathomable powers and the ability to accomplish heroic feats. Though Harry knows that it will come down to a showdown between himself and Voldemort, he might look for ths "Prince" as an ally and a leader for the fight against Voldemort if Dumbledore becoems seriously injured. He would research all he could about this man, trying to locate him to learn from him, to get him to help stop Voldemort, only to discover at the end of the book that it is HE Harry who is the Half-Blood Prince. Although such a discovery wouldn't necessitate his becoming Minister for or of Magic (depending on your version) he would become a field general, a rallying point, rather like Joan of Arc. Now this is if you take the term "prince" literally. If you take it figuratively or satirically, it's definitely Voldemort (Tom) even with just the little bit of his history we have.

As to Tom's mother's death--There are plenty of posts about this in the thread "All About Lord Voldemort." What we do know is that the sacrifices were similar but not identical. Lily sacrificed herself to protect Harry, to save his life, to give him life in order to survive the attack. Tom's mother also died to give her son life, but she died in childbirth (or as a result of complications), bringing him into the world not keeping him in it.

maybe it refers to voldemort being the death eaters half blood prince?


That's a great point. :agree: Like Veritaserum said it's a great metaphor. Maybe she using it because of more information we find out about Voldemort a.k.a Voldy (sorry i know you don't like that nickname :p)? Maybe we find out more about his mom because no one has really wondered about mom who was also Salazar's heir, right? So maybe she has something to do with it. Or not because I'm just rambling on and on like a lunatic. But nevertheless maybe. Okay, I just confused myself. :huh:

yes hopefully, but why would she put it on the site if it wasent true?

can someone please mail me the correct order of the bricks??????

I hope the Halfblood Prince is either Nott, Jr., or Regulus Black. Most people are saying it will be Mark Evans or Voldemort, and those are the more likely choices, but I hope it's Nott or Regulus. Ahem...only thing is, they're both affirmed Purebloods. Guess we'll have to wait and see.

Here's a thought for you all...maybe it's an anagram? JKR knows we find them everywhere! :rotfl:

I don't think I'll be ready to believe that this is the title until Jo says so herself. I think she may be trying to fool us again, darn it.

Why would she bring in royalty? Are pure-blood families titled (Prince, Duke, etc.)?

Or, is this a fairy tale reference?

It seems out of sync with the other titles.

Here's a thought for you all...maybe it's an anagram? JKR knows we find them everywhere! :rotfl:


Oh no...you've started the anagram thing again! :no: I can't imagine what people are going to get. This is going to be funny and yet interesting nonetheless.

then what would it spell out Inkwolf?

can someone please owl or e mail me and tell me what the "half blood prince" has to do with any of this? how do we no its the title of bok 6 anywyase? im lost....

Ok guys I don't know if you guys noticed, or if it has been discussed so sorry if already said.

But did anyone notice the "Peeves was ere" on the mirror?

Could this be a joke???

i dont think there is an anagram in the title..shes never done it before...so why start not...also most of the other titles are straight forward in relation to the story...

Maybe it isn't the title, but an anagram to get the title?

can someone please owl or e mail me and tell me what the "half blood prince" has to do with any of this? how do we no its the title of bok 6 anywyase? im lost....


That's the whole point. No one knows and EVERYONE is lost. We're just making it up as we go along. At least I am.

Here's a thought for you all...maybe it's an anagram? JKR knows we find them everywhere! :rotfl:

I've got some great ones for you, courtesy of Wordsmith.org:

HALF BLOOD PRINCE:

BACON HERD OF PILL (perhaps Harry is actually related to pigs on drugs?)
BALD CHLOE PROF IN (the next DADA teacher is Prof. Chloe who is bald!)
BREAD PONCHO FILL (Harry gets a raincoat and fills it with wheat maybe...)
BEDPAN CO FILL RHO (Someone is a bedwetter in the story lol)
BAD COP HELL IF RON (RON IS EVIL!!!! I knew it!)

Ok guys I don't know if you guys noticed, or if it has been discussed so sorry if already said.

But did anyone notice the "Peeves was ere" on the mirror?

Could this be a joke???


Yeah, I got that too but that just too mean. Even for Peeves. However, that's totally a possiblity.

I think it's a hoax -- it just sounds off, somehow. Maybe not quite as far off as "The Pillar of Storge," but right up there.

However, if it IS real, I vote that the prince in question is Godric Gryffindor or some other historical figure -- we certainly haven't had any references to royalty in the modern wizarding world, and about the only character who acts like a prince is Draco Malfoy, who's as pureblood as they come. (Unless, of course, Lucius isn't Draco's real father, and the reason why he looks like Lucius is that he's a Metamorphagus just like his cousin, but that seems too far-fetched for words.)

It could be, but when I looked up the Tom Marvolo Riddle there was no "I am Lord Voldmeort". Unless someone wants to go through all of the possible combinaions which is probably up there in the trillons.

What if instead of HBP (If referring to Harry) sounding like “Harry Potter and himself” it is more like “Harry Potter and something he does not know about himself.” It could be something like him being the heir of Gryffindor, or him finding out something about himself that he needs to know in order to beat Lord Voldemort. Just a thought

:huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh: :huh:
this it what the title has done to me

actually its very peeves like, maybe its her way of getting back at us for beliving in Storge' lol

yes hopefully, but why would she put it on the site if it wasent true?

If what wasn't true? She put a sentence on a piece of paper, she didn't tell us what it meant? There is no truth or falsehood possible, if she doesn't say what it means.

I like Ink's suggestion about the half....ah...baked title.:D This seems to elaborate for Peeve but it's a definite possibility.

:angel: CAN SOMEONE PLEASE GIVE ME THE COMBO FOR THE BRICKS BEHIND THE DOOR?!?!? :angel:

I think that this supposed title is the information that was rumored to be released July 1st. This could mean a very long time with no new information/confirmation.

Email It Please

Hasn't anyone got a clue to what she's talking about yet bcasue if you haven't I'll be pretty shocked. There is only one person that Rowling can be referring to when she talks about the Half-Blood prince and that is Voldemort bc it was orginally going to be the title of CoS and we know that it was about the heir of Slytherin. Voldemort is the half blood prince and here's why:
-he's a half blood
-he's the heir to Slytherin
Rowling even said in one of her interviews or on her site that this would have been the title for CoS. I mean, I;m just a little...:huh: shocked! No one can figure it out?

i'm not ready to call it title yet, but i do hope so, i want info, dont we all, i'm just stuck here relying on all of you because i can't get to her site today :shrug: , the day shes got new stuff and it won't work (yes i've already tried to sort this out, and no one seems to be having my problems) i mean i believe that this was found on her site and all of course i believe everything really, but im just frustrated with AOL, i never have liked it anyways...aah, if any of you are really computer smart you can try to help, but i've tried all the obvious things

If you notice, the books have always refered to something new that we havent seen before. The Sorcerers stone, the Goblet of Fire etc etc... So I think this "half-blood prince" is something new. It's not He-who-must-not-be-named, it's not Harry...I think it's probably something like a half-vampire from Transylvania!!!

haha, a half-vampire, i wonder how that would work, haha, i can just imagine

:huh:

Personally, I suspect it might be a JKR prank. How about: Harry Potter and the Half ***ed Title :lol:

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

People, people - the half-blood prince can only be someone we had been introduced to by the end of CoS. This is because it was the original title for CoS. Therefore, it cannot be:

1) Lupin
2) Mark Evans
3) Grawp/Giants
4) Anything or anyone that was introduced in PoA or later.

I really don't think this means Harry. I don't remember who said it, but someone said that it couldn't be Harry because of the 'AND' in the title. I know this could be an attempt at misleading us, but all of her titles are really honest and straight-forward, though we can't see that until after reading the books. Anyway, if there was a book about Harry called, "Harry Potter and the Boy Who Lived," it wouldn't work, so how would this one, if it was indeed referring to Harry himself?

someone (azimuth) has a point there, but jo might have added something and figured out this title works, i dont know...

haha, a half-vampire, i wonder how that would work, haha, i can just imagine

Just like Blade. He was a 1/2 vampire :)

yea i came up with the hagrid one on the mugglenet comments dealie-bob before it was disabled. and lupin is also possible; i haven't heard that one before

Well I think it's VOLDEMORT for various reasons, see above.

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I did, you can chill now.

maybe the reason she didn't use it for chamber of secrets was that it was ambiguous with another half-blood prince and she didn't want to confuse people?

Voldemort is the obvious choice. Rather like most people figured that the "Order of the Phoenix" would be some sort of anti-Voldy (sorry JK) league.

What exactly does it say behind the brick wall? My computer isn't functioning right and it freezes up when i go to certain links, so i can't get to the brick wall. Does it actually say that's the new title?

Anyone? I don't mind the spoiler.

No it doesn't actually say that that is the new title... it's just a piece of paper with it typed on there. It is a little ambiguous and misleading.

the wall moves down into the floor, and then there's a small room with a lamp, desk, and fan. when you click on the fan, papers flutter about madly, and then it unfolds on the screen and the letters appear as if they are being typed

There's no reason that a character couldn't have been tabled from CoS and introduced later, but I don't think this will be the title for Book 6.

1. Peeves
2. Already mentioned by JKR as a possible title for another book--why recycle, especially after telling everyone that the title didn't work out? It would invite unwelcome scrutiny on the title from the moment it was announced.
3. Humor is in keeping with JKR's recent disgust.

As of right now, when you press in the bricks on any language version of the site other than the English one, nothing happens. The bricks don't go back in, nor does the brick wall drop.

Shauna

...Rather like most people figured that the "Order of the Phoenix" would be some sort of anti-Voldy (sorry JK) league.
^you do know she was kidding yes?^

but anyways, i am agreeign with severitysnape with the whole maybe she had a different person in mind, although i dont think i would phrase it like that, more she just didn't want to use the title...yet...maybe, just my little theory

Peeves has been there the whole time; besides, she warns us at the beginning of the site to watch out for him. i don't think he signals anything, just keeps things from getting boring if you're sitting in one place for a while. and the reason she might have said that the title didn't work for CoS was because there is another half-blood prince character who she didn't want to be confused with voldy in later books. its just a theory, but it could be the reasoning behind it

If you notice, the books have always refered to something new that we havent seen before. The Sorcerers stone, the Goblet of Fire etc etc... So I think this "half-blood prince" is something new. It's not He-who-must-not-be-named, it's not Harry...I think it's probably something like a half-vampire from Transylvania!!!

haha, a half-vampire, i wonder how that would work, haha, i can just imagine

Well, have you all ever read the Cirque Du Freak series? Well the title of book 6 is the Vampire Prince. The books are about a boy named Darren Shan who became a half-vampire. and in the 6th book, he becomes a Vampire Prince. oh, and did I mention that JKR quoted the books? Her quote is on the front cover. So we all know that she has read the Cirque Du Freak series. Hummm...

does anyone know if mugglenet has reopened the comments page yet? i don't feel like checking; my computer is...sluggish

Vigilance has a point. But wouldn't it be hilarious if this really wasn't the actual title? Millions of people across the world now "know" the new title - wouldn't it be downright fantastic if Jo pulled out some new, never before seen title?

In any case, Half-Blood Prince sucks. Pillar of Storge should be the title, in my opinion.

ANother thing that shows it might be fake.

Theres no dark mark!

It is a spoiler right??

Oh yeah! She did say that spoilers would have a dark mark huh?!

I say this is a huge red herring. She deserves a litte "revenge," though, after that hoax that had everyone up in arms this past weekend. She'll let us sit with this new "information" for a few months, I say, and then release the actual title. Really all she's trying to get at through the site is for us to continue speculating-to keep the Harry Potter enthusiasm flowing. Job well done, JKR, but cruel nonetheless.
:-)

true true

Hm, you're right. Also, now that I think about it, shouldn't it say "HP and the H-BP is the title of book six!" instead of just the name? This is getting a bit suspicious...

Larry Potter--

WOW. That is a good point. With all the other special extras, you were previously warned that there would be new material and such. If you didn't want to see it, it didn't just pop up.

Shauna

I really don't think this means Harry. I don't remember who said it, but someone said that it couldn't be Harry because of the 'AND' in the title. I know this could be an attempt at misleading us, but all of her titles are really honest and straight-forward, though we can't see that until after reading the books. Anyway, if there was a book about Harry called, "Harry Potter and the Boy Who Lived," it wouldn't work, so how would this one, if it was indeed referring to Harry himself?

One could indicate a real person (Harry Potter from Little Whinging), the other could indicate a legend (Harry Potter, infant banisher of darkness and evil). The two are not exactly the same person...One is real, the other is part fiction in JKR's world. Let's not think we understand anything about the way JKR's mind works or how misleading she could be. After all, I don't know why, in an example scenario where Harry attempts to discover the identity of a "Half-Blood Prince" referred to in some Centaur prophecy, couldn't allow for such a possibility in the title. Are you saying that if the book were one of self-discovery, this title couldn't make sense? I think it might make perfect sense. However, I don't think that this will be the title. See above.

something to ponder about that is

Besides, are we going to trust a name that was registered by "Seabottom?" :rolleyes:

Shauna

i dont see why i am a first year i already know fifth year spells =p

i dont think we should trust it

The Prince of Darkness would be Snape as he walks in the shadows.

Anyway I think it will be Voldemort I mean what better way to cause maximum distress on his death eaters when they find out he is after all only a half-blood as they all think he is a pure blooded wizard. Every Slytherin will realize that Harry is more pure blooded than Voldemort, wonder how they will take that news.

I also think that it has something to do with his relationship to Tom's mother and father. There could be something incredibly important that we are missing, for example who is his mother, did she die of natural causes or die saving Tom like Lily did for Harry against his father perhaps who could have hated wizards that much that he thought he would kill Tom as a baby, it would parallel with Harry's life in a way.

There I go again making assumptions based on no real facts other than the online interview and the possible title. I do come up with some rubbish at times. :rolleyes:

Well.. Correct me if I am wrong, but I could have sworn I read some where that Tom's mom died in child birth. His father having abandon them before he was born. So technically she could have died in childbirth so that Tom could live. Your theory might hold water yet ;)

I don't know about you, but I don't think that J.K.R. would lie about the title of her sixth book. It'd be so random and pointless, especially if this is a title that was already released earlier as another version for C.O.S. It just wouldn't make sense to put a meaningless title behind a part of her site that was obviously under construction for a long time, or at least, something she was getting ready for a long time. I don't think she'd punish her fans that way, even if she was annoyed by all the hackers. I mean, she has millions of fans all over the world, why would she punish us all for a few people? This wouldn't be a lot of work and a lot of speculation over something that'd be blamed on Peeves. Then again, she is the master of deception. Or maybe I'm just hopeful we'll learn more about the young Tom Riddle. I think it'd be awesome to learn just how he became so evil. I mean, there's got to be a whole lot there to make him want to commit mass murder. That'd be a pretty interesting storyline to follow.

yes she died at childbirth

Spoiler: The Prince of Darkness would be Snape as he walks in the shadows.

Anyway I think it will be Voldemort I mean what better way to cause maximum distress on his death eaters when they find out he is after all only a half-blood as they all think he is a pure blooded wizard. Every Slytherin will realize that Harry is more pure blooded than Voldemort, wonder how they will take that news.

I also think that it has something to do with his relationship to Tom's mother and father. There could be something incredibly important that we are missing, for example who is his mother, did she die of natural causes or die saving Tom like Lily did for Harry against his father perhaps who could have hated wizards that much that he thought he would kill Tom as a baby, it would parallel with Harry's life in a way.

There I go again making assumptions based on no real facts other than the online interview and the possible title. I do come up with some rubbish at times. :rolleyes:



Rowling said that in future books we would leanr more about the circumstances of riddles birth. I think there's more to his coming out in the world than we know and I think it deals heavily with the new title.

Personally, I'm not going over the moon with it until J.K. actually says in plain-speaking terms, "The title of Book 6 is 'Harry Potter and the half-blooded prince'"

If it is Voldemort though how would she have incorperated the "Prince" part into the CoS?

If it is Voldemort though how would she have incorperated the "Prince" part into the CoS. The fact that he's slytherin adn most pure bloods practically consider themselves to be royalty even though Voldemort never told anyone he was a half blood. But the fact alone that he's the heir to Slytherin practically makes him think that he is royalty.

i wish JK was here but she probably wont come here anymore because last time she was here everyone shot down here ideas and started talk about spongebob for god sake ...... poor JK

If this is an actual title (and I am not saying that I believe it is) I doubt that HBP is Voldemort for the following reasons:

1.) It sounds like a "self proclaimed" title- LV would NOT give himself this title. By the same token, I doubt Harry is presumptuous enough to do so.

2.) All the previous titles have some connection to the means by which we are lead to believe or Voldemort actually comes at Harry- Philosophers Stone, Chamber, Prisoner, Goblet of Fire, and Order (he uses Sirius as bait). Therefore, it stands to reason that the only book in which the means will be Voldemort himself is most likely book 7.


Maybe it has something to do with the new DADA prof! :lol:

If this is a hoax by JK herself, it's really mean and definitely over the line. What does she have to be mad at? She updated her page and set everything straight with the rumors. I doubt she would be mean enough to set up a whole new one just get back at a couple people - meanwhile misleading the rest of us that were ALREADY mislead! Just seems too mean.

Saying that........

I stand by thinking it's Harry. Just because the title would be 'Harry Potter and Himself' IF you read it that way, doesn't mean it doesn't mean, as someone said, Harry Potter and... something he didn't know about himself. It makes sense to me, with tying up loose ends in the plot and other character traits and back story. It would also surround harry with a lot of people behind him going against Voldemort. Sure everyone knows Voldemort is back, but who is willing to stand up to him when the time comes? Harry could be their strength as theirs is to him! I don't really understand people saying it's Tom Riddle (jr. or sr.) since they're both dead and gone (though jr. lives on as we know... ).

Anyway, still think it's Harry ;)

if you are here Mrs.Rowling please send me an owl :angel:

Has anyone considered that perhaps this isn't the title of the book, but a clue about the plot? I don't think "HP and the Half-Blood Prince" really fits JKR's style - it just doesn't have that ring that the rest of the books did. in fact, I hate to say it,. but even "Pillar of Storge" sounded better than "Half-Blood Prince."

I doubt it's all a joke, but I would hate for this to be the title.

now all i have to do is wait for that owl..hehe

Well it wouldn't be a lie, as she never actually said : The titel of book 6 is going to be Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince

that is very true Till

Has anyone considered that perhaps this isn't the title of the book, but a clue about the plot? I don't think "HP and the Half-Blood Prince" really fits JKR's style - it just doesn't have that ring that the rest of the books did. in fact, I hate to say it,. but even "Pillar of Storge" sounded better than "Half-Blood Prince."Rowling was originalyl going to use HBP for CoS ut she didn't. I have a strong suspiscion that Rowling may change the title of this book like she did with GoF.

i swear on Harry Potter i wont tell anyone your here if you are Mrs.Rowling so please send me an owl!!!!

Now, I might of missed it becasue there are so many messages, but did anyone find the chat or whatever where JKR said Book 6 would probably be longer than OotP?

Yes, "Doomspell Tournament" got nixed for Goblet of Fire. I have to admit both Halfblood Prince and Doomspell Tournament sound a bit over the top for JK.