BT_Shadow89 August 15th, 2004, 9:33 pm Yeah, I guess I didn't take that into consideration. Like you said, if there was a member of the order for the DADA job they could provide more protection for Harry while he was at Hogwarts. But if Snape does happen to get his dream job, I think they could easily find a relplacement for the Potions position.
I think Snape would be a really great DADA teacher, we know from CoS during the dueling session with Lockhary that Snape was pretty darn good with the Dark Arts.
k, thanx DuFF.
xharrypotterx August 15th, 2004, 11:46 pm Originally Posted by BT_Shadow89,
But if Snape does happen to get his dream job, I think they could easily find a relplacement for the Potions position.
I think Snape would be a really great DADA teacher, we know from CoS during the dueling session with Lockhary that Snape was pretty darn good with the Dark Arts.
Well, we know that Snape is good at the Dark Arts, he was a Death Eater, so he knows his stuff. Personally, I don't think that he will ever have the DADA teacher job, but if he does, I think that he won't get it until book seven...that is, unless this year's DADA teacher doesn't stay on longer than a year, but I don't have any reason not to believe that JKR would go against the 'one year, one DADA teacher' tradition.
madamepomfrey August 15th, 2004, 11:52 pm She also said that sometimes when she can't think of a name for something she simply puts X until she thinks of the right name, so perhaps she just named the character she has been writing as the DADA teacher. Or she could have changed the name if she liked it better than the one she has been using, at this point ANYTHING is possible, I don't think we have enough information to really rule out much of anything.
groikleflit August 16th, 2004, 5:10 pm Snape's only good at the Dark Arts because he was a Death Eater. He probably knows 101 interesting ways to kill people... anyways, Snape will probably be DADA teacher in book Seven. This McClaggan character will be the next DADA teacher, because Jo said that there'll be no new characters in no. 7.
Unforgivable August 16th, 2004, 8:27 pm It is said Snape knew more dark spells in his first year then most of the 7 graders =/.
I think it may be Aberforth ^^ for the new DADA teacher. Just maybe? =P
azdf August 16th, 2004, 8:56 pm i had an idea this morning. i really don't have the patience to look through all the pages on this subject (sorry). has anyone suggested arthur weasley yet?
ragga August 16th, 2004, 10:06 pm Well, we know that Snape is good at the Dark Arts, he was a Death Eater, so he knows his stuff. Personally, I don't think that he will ever have the DADA teacher job, but if he does, I think that he won't get it until book seven...that is, unless this year's DADA teacher doesn't stay on longer than a year, but I don't have any reason not to believe that JKR would go against the 'one year, one DADA teacher' tradition.
I dont know, i have a feeling that maybe he will get it. There has been so much fuss in every book about the new DADA teacher and that Snape didnt get it, but had always wanted it, that maybe at sometime he will get his own way. Though then again this totaly depends on if DD trusts him enough for him to do so. And also Snape is also good at his job anyway.
I also think that maybe she will go against her one DADA teacher a year thing. Its been 5 years and 5 different teachers, I think DD will want more stability in his school with what lumes ahead and so maybe a person he knows he can fully trust and who will stay.
gottaloveLupin August 16th, 2004, 10:12 pm Mc Clagan or whatever his name is, it may very well be just a sort of Tonks character. Not that important to the plot.
i don't think Snape will get the dADA position. At least not yet.
I tend to believe that the DADA teacher will be someone we already know. CauseI can't see what could a new character bring to the plot so much into the story.
michaela August 20th, 2004, 8:44 am There can be a new character introduced as the DADA teacher in book 6. I mean the books are long enough to have new characters in.
MaNdY2003 August 20th, 2004, 9:21 am I have a funny feeling that Mad-eye will take the job, I am not was because Dumbledore has a lot to do about how to defeat the Dark Lord!!! Anyways, I am just guessing!!
Padfoot_001 August 20th, 2004, 10:41 am I don't know if I'd like Moody as the DADA teacher, he's so odd - then again, who cares what I like and don't like, ultimately, it's not up to me.
I think that the description of the lion-like bloke from JKR's website is the new DADA teacher, hence I'm going with the suggestion that maybe it is somebody we are yet to encounter in the other five books.
sneff August 20th, 2004, 11:24 am yeh i think that there will be a new charecter that will be he DADA teacher. and like before he will play a vital role in the plot. i am also sure that that is who the cutting on JKR's website is refering to.
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Kimmetje August 20th, 2004, 11:57 am I still think that McLagan is a good candidate of becoming DADA teacher. He's a new character and will probably be important to the plot. I don't think Snape will be teaching DADA in book six though, maybe in book seven, but not book six yet...
FiliusFlitwick August 20th, 2004, 6:54 pm i would like Kingsley Shacklebolt as the new DADA teacher, but I think that the person who is described in JKR's excerpt is going to be the new professor.
caindo August 20th, 2004, 6:56 pm Harry's going to be the new DADA teacher. LOL Do you know how much that would peeve Snape!? Oh jeez. But more direct ideas point towards the passage introducing the new DADA teacher.
lewis8604 August 20th, 2004, 7:04 pm i think that the passage was indicating the new potions master. We should start a who is the next potions master thread for all us snape for dada believers. Snape is going to get the job. He has waited for it. He is great at potions but at dada he has to be awesome. except well he will have the worst brought out in him as JK said and that could be good or bad. Maybe the worst of snape will terrify all of the students into studing. I don't know id like to see snape teach because he would have to give harry respect because his ability at DADA is unbelievable, where as in potions he was at best decent.
edit: actually i decided to do it and make the thread myself
blueheron August 24th, 2004, 1:50 pm Maybe the new DADA teacher isn't human- like Firenze is a centuar but teaches divination.
Regina07 August 25th, 2004, 5:06 pm I think i'd be sooo cool if Harry could teach DADA!! But I definetly don't think Snape will get the position this year (6th) or next (7th) because it's the most important class for Harry and I don't think DD would do that to him, cuz he knows Snape and Harry are enemies and all.
Saiorri August 25th, 2004, 5:22 pm it could just be me over theorizing, but has anyone thought DD wont give snape the job of DADA for his own good. ok, we know that we're to be under the impression that snape is in remission from being a DE, so doesn't it make sense not to let him teach a class on dark arts if he's in "remission"? for the same reason a rapist can't teach a "women's self defense class" or a kidnapper/pedophiler cant teach a elementry school gym class-----ITS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST!
As sirius had pointed out to snape in the shrieking shack at the end of PoA--- "why dont u go play w/ ur chemistry set"? snape is a evil motha to his students, but his strong point is chemistry i.e potions. he has enough malice and hate to james,sirius and lupin to last him his life and the last thing he needs to be involved with is black magic! if snape knew any black magic he woulda definatey used it on james and company for terrorising him. but since he couldn't, he went to the ppl who could help him with it--the DE's .its really a conflict of interest for him to be the dada teacher since he dabbled in it so much in the dark arts so much. this is not a episode of scared str8. if u had a teacher who was teaching a "defense against dark arts", and the books show u the person u were defending against looks a helluva lot like YOUR DEATH EATER in remission TEACHER, would u trust him and stay concentrated in class??!!! i wouldnt let him be the teacher either if i were dd.
MMELevrier August 25th, 2004, 5:38 pm The new DADA teacher will be the person described in the "vault" on the JKR official website. If Professor Snape ever gets the job he covets, it will be in book 7 (which I hope I live long enough to read).
And I don't think a vampire will ever assume a position of responsibility at Hogwarts. For one thing, a vampire could ONLY teach at night, and I don't know that aside from astronomy, any classes are at night. So I don't think a vampire will be the DADA teacher. Ever.
Lupins Ladee August 25th, 2004, 5:38 pm Well, the DADA teacher in Book 6 should be someone helpful to Harry if JK keeps up with her pattern. Which is;
Book 1:Evil
Book 2:Useless
Book 3:Helpful
Book 4:Evil
Book 5:Useless
Therefore, Book 6 must be Helpful, and Book 7 will be Evil again. I think it will be a new character. If we have to seep witht he pattern Snape cannot be simply b/c the DADA teacher is always forced to leave at the end. Since, Snape is going to be important in Book 7 I don't see him leaving the school at the end of Book 6. So it will mostly likely be someone new that drives the plot like usual. HP is a formula book when it comes down to it each book follows that formula. I guess with the war starting she could change the formula for the last two books, but I doubt.
kitkat15 August 25th, 2004, 5:50 pm i think it will have something to do with david gudgeon or a member of his family and if it has nothing to do with the DADA job i think that him or his family will play some part in the last two books becasue a member of the gudgeon family was mentioned in CoS and David Gudgeon was mentioned in PoA not in a mojor way but i see no point in JKR bringing up the name twice if it were for no point i also think that when DD shows harry Bertha Jorkin in the pensive that it means something more important that we yet know
mugglehater04 August 26th, 2004, 3:11 pm i think snape would teach dada and the new potions master would proberly be new or somethink coz they wont get any one from the order coz look at them tehy are stupidly busy with voldemort!i believe the new potions master is going to bea young techer that has only just passed his teching stuff! wot do you think owl me if you think im being stupid!
Till August 26th, 2004, 3:19 pm I still think that McLagan is a good candidate of becoming DADA teacher. He's a new character and will probably be important to the plot. I don't think Snape will be teaching DADA in book six though, maybe in book seven, but not book six yet...
McClaggen, you mean;). And I don't think he as a snowball's chance in hell, because she's alreddy halfway done, and she only noticed the name very recently.
sirpsycho85 August 26th, 2004, 11:04 pm id say probably tonks because otherwise she just seems to random to me
MistressOfMagic August 27th, 2004, 3:56 am I think it will most likely be a new character. Everytime a DADA teacher ends up leaving, a new character fills the position. I think this time won't be much different.
Saiorri August 27th, 2004, 7:28 pm whats all this talk about a new potions master?:huh:? i dont get it. DD didn't give him the job during the first war, so why would he do it during the 2nd war?? if DD cant find a DADA teacher, i dunno y he doesnt just teach tha dang class himself?? umbridge was headmistress and she still taugght the DADA class......
but i agree. i would like to c tonks in the position. but she just became an auror and after all the time and stuff (besides disguiing ones self) u have to go through to b an auror, i'd hold off on being a teacher. i doubt she wants to put that on hold to go back to school for a year. she still has to learn how to be sleuth and not alert everyone she's in the room first.
Moody was a retired and paranoid auror, not a newbie. besides, from the description given from the vault, it cant b tonks, unless she was once again changing her appearence to look older and a DIFFERENT SEX this time!:evil:
i_like_dat August 28th, 2004, 12:35 am If JK Rowling's putting Snape in the position of the DADA professor, she's only putting herself in danger. More fans furious! lol. I think the new DADA teacher will be somebody we've not yet met.
elfgirl831 August 28th, 2004, 12:44 am Personally, I think it will be someone new. There has been a cycle in every book so far: We see a glimpse of or hear about the new DADA teacher before Harry goes to Hogwarts. The only book that does not strictly follow this pattern is PoA.
daz August 28th, 2004, 12:52 am i hope for lupin to come back they are at war and he proved he was a good teacher
Da Vinci September 9th, 2004, 9:30 am After the poll at Mugglenet, I was thinking the following:
(DADA = defence against the dark arts)
What if the DADA teacher is Tonks? She can't be the prince, because she is a girl. Then it would have been "princess". Nevertheless she is very well suited for the job.
Then I was thinking again and I was wondering what name I was missing and was already introduced in a previous book? Who else is good in DADA and is male? It's quite simple: Krum. Hermione is still in touch (book 5), which means he will be re-appearing in book 6 or 7. He has been to Durmstrang, the school where they had more Dark arts classes as DADA and their ex-headmaster had been a deatheater. For all we know he could be a prince. He is so quiet that it seems he wants to keep a low profile. Let people know not more then they need to know. But what is the real reason for this way of behaving? Ow, and "Krum", that used to be a very powerful person who once ruled like a tsar or emperor in the Bulgarian empire a few hundred years ago.
EDIT: and due to the simple fact that Krum is a national quidditch hero and highly respected by his own people as well as abroad, he could cause a true revolution in the wizarding world to openly support the order and the cause, or maybe he already has connections or he might even be the leader of another order which is more like a large secret army (like order of the Phoenix, but larger). He could have worked on that in secret with Karkaroff for all we know. Karkaroff wasn't that stupid you know. He might have fled, but if you know the powers and reach of Lord Voldemort, then he should have a very good hiding place and backup plan to save himself.
Vinci
vitacus September 9th, 2004, 10:41 pm I have an idea. Since Voldemort's return is presumably now public knowledge, perhaps all the Hogwarts professors will have a hand in teaching DADA, making it a focus of the curriculum. I don't mean they stop teaching their own subjects, just that either each will maybe substitute teach the DADA class or their regular classes will all incorporate aspects of DADA.
lewis8604 September 9th, 2004, 11:05 pm Ive been reading this fanfic. Harry Potter and the acceptance of fate and it makes a real plausible case for Snape becoming the DADA. Its really way that would aork although i casn't see it happening. It has snape teaching all the DADA classes and the NEWT potions. Harry teaches third year defence, ad there is a new potions teacher to teach fifth year and lower. I thought it could work very well. If you haven't read it i recommend it owl me for info.
Snape has pushed all of his classes wioth very difficult potions and assignments throughout all of Harry's years. Maybe the reason Harry thought he only scraped an acceptable was becaus he is so used to getting graded very tough. So he could have done very well actually snd thought otherwise.
Back on track. I think that snape will be the DADA teacher in book 6. If not in book 6 then atleast in book 7. He knows the dark arts, but that doesn't necessarily mean the defense since he really didn't use defence against the dark arts, just the dark arts themselves. He did seem to really know dark creatures and stuff like that when he taught for lupin.
I can see Tonks teaching the class as well
Holly_Black16 September 10th, 2004, 1:06 am The DADA Professor will be a male Death Eater (in disguise) and be played by Orlando Bloom :drool: :love: Harry-Holly-Draco shipper. you can't decide who'll you'll fall in love with.
SyirenSlytherin September 10th, 2004, 3:34 am i'm just going to go out on a limb here and say Bill Weasly, since he's just so cool :P
ok maybe that's not a good theory but i think it'd certainly be a neat thing to happen
Tooleftfeet September 10th, 2004, 4:35 pm My guess would be Snape, I think Dumbledore will be it in book seven. So here's my reasoning Snape: J.K. Rowling has been riding that Snape has always wanted to be DADA teacher since Book One, and she keeps saying it, so that basically hints she's going to utilize it at some point. And we know that in OoP that Professor Snape only accepts students with OWLS of "Excellent" into his potions class. And though Harry probably did okay at his potions OWLS, its unrealistic that he would get an E. So, if there was a new potions teacher, it would work well into the plot, and the whole potions/harry/snape conflict is getting old by now. And being in OoP Harry now holds Snape responsible for Sirius' death. Their hatred for one and another is to a whole new level. Because Harry is really good at DADA, so I think it would be more intersesting to see Snape and Harry really duel. But in the end if Harry is going to beat Voldemort, he has to learn from Dumbledore being he's the only one that has ever stood a chance against Voldemort. And having Snape as a DADA teacher would provide all sorts of conflict, and it would allow Harry to realize that traditional magic coupled with his anger will never win against Voldemort (as hinted at by Dumbledore).
Krumpet September 10th, 2004, 5:52 pm I think it will be a member of the OotP. I really like the idea of Tonks. She is one of my favorite new characters. Guess I'm just going off gut feelings though. Still Tonks for DADA!
lewis8604 September 10th, 2004, 6:29 pm My guess would be Snape, I think Dumbledore will be it in book seven. So here's my reasoning Snape: J.K. Rowling has been riding that Snape has always wanted to be DADA teacher since Book One, and she keeps saying it, so that basically hints she's going to utilize it at some point. And we know that in OoP that Professor Snape only accepts students with OWLS of "Excellent" into his potions class. And though Harry probably did okay at his potions OWLS, its unrealistic that he would get an E. So, if there was a new potions teacher, it would work well into the plot, and the whole potions/harry/snape conflict is getting old by now. And being in OoP Harry now holds Snape responsible for Sirius' death. Their hatred for one and another is to a whole new level. Because Harry is really good at DADA, so I think it would be more intersesting to see Snape and Harry really duel. But in the end if Harry is going to beat Voldemort, he has to learn from Dumbledore being he's the only one that has ever stood a chance against Voldemort. And having Snape as a DADA teacher would provide all sorts of conflict, and it would allow Harry to realize that traditional magic coupled with his anger will never win against Voldemort (as hinted at by Dumbledore).
I like it all except for the fact you need to get an outstanding to get into Newt potions with snape. I like your reasonings for snape becoming DADA i think that its gonna happen this year too. Maybe he will still teach some potions classes like NEWT level
Tooleftfeet September 10th, 2004, 9:32 pm I like it all except for the fact you need to get an outstanding to get into Newt potions with snape. I like your reasonings for snape becoming DADA i think that its gonna happen this year too. Maybe he will still teach some potions classes like NEWT level
Good point, when I said Excellent I meant Outstanding, I left the books at home when I moved off to school and I couldn't reference the exact grade required but thanks though
Tane September 13th, 2004, 8:55 pm I kind of like the idea that it is this character that is described like a lion as this character sounds like it would suit the part.
hermy_weasley2 September 13th, 2004, 8:59 pm Personally, I think it will be someone new. It always has been, and it's a good excuse to introduce new characters (Moony,Moody, Lockhart). On the other hand, it's getting a little late in the series to introduce very many new characters, in my opinion.
xharrypotterx September 13th, 2004, 9:43 pm Originally Posted by hermy_weasley2:
Personally, I think it will be someone new. It always has been, and it's a good excuse to introduce new characters (Moony,Moody, Lockhart). On the other hand, it's getting a little late in the series to introduce very many new characters, in my opinion.
I can definately see both sides in this case. Throughout the septology, each book has revealed a new character in the form of the DADA teacher. It is hard to believe that there JKR would go against this tradition in the final books. However, we at least know (via JKR) that there will be no new characters introduced in the seventh book, and we have no guarentees that there will be a new character in book six. JKR could very well bring back a character for both the new DADA teacher as well as the new Minister of Magic, and then keep these characters in the final two books. The exerpt from JKR's site may be describing Gryffindor (or someone else) for all we know, but I think it is likely that there will be a new character in this book.
POSSIBILITIES
One possible candidate is Lupin. JKR (through Dumbledore) could bring back Lupin as the new DADA teacher and that would be fine by me! :rotfl: However, as much as I would like to see Lupin come back to the post of DADA teacher, I do not think that he would :upset: . Lupin was just too upset after the night in Harry's third year when he turned into a werewolf and went wild in the Forbidden Forest. As he said when Harry asked him why he was resigning:
PoA pg 423 (american hardback):
"...That was the final straw for Severus. I think the loss of the Order of Merlin hit him hard. So he - er - accidentally let slip that I am a werewolf this morning at breakfast."
"You're not leaving just because of that!" said Harry.
Lupin smiled wryly.
"This time tomorrow, the owls will start arriving from parents....They will not want a werewolf teaching their children, Harry. And after last night, I see their point. I could have bitten any of you....That must never happen again."
Lupin does not want to endanger the lives of the students..at all. I think that if anything happened because of his lycanthropy, it would be too much for him to bear. The thoughts of the 'near misses' when he and James were at school still haunt him. I do not think Lupin would take up the post even if Dumbledore asked him to once again.
As for Snape, I like Tooleftfeet's idea:
My guess would be Snape, I think Dumbledore will be it in book seven. So here's my reasoning Snape: J.K. Rowling has been riding that Snape has always wanted to be DADA teacher since Book One, and she keeps saying it, so that basically hints she's going to utilize it at some point. And we know that in OoP that Professor Snape only accepts students with OWLS of "Excellent" into his potions class. And though Harry probably did okay at his potions OWLS, its unrealistic that he would get an E. So, if there was a new potions teacher, it would work well into the plot, and the whole potions/harry/snape conflict is getting old by now. And being in OoP Harry now holds Snape responsible for Sirius' death. Their hatred for one and another is to a whole new level. Because Harry is really good at DADA, so I think it would be more intersesting to see Snape and Harry really duel. But in the end if Harry is going to beat Voldemort, he has to learn from Dumbledore being he's the only one that has ever stood a chance against Voldemort. And having Snape as a DADA teacher would provide all sorts of conflict, and it would allow Harry to realize that traditional magic coupled with his anger will never win against Voldemort (as hinted at by Dumbledore).
If I had any inclination as for Snape being the next DADA teacher, this would be the reasoning as such. If Harry wants to persue his career as an Auror he needs potions, and although he is 'acceptable' at potions at the moment, he needs to step it up a notch in order to get into the NEWT level potions class. Also, Snape becoming the new DADA teacher would put a nice twist in the series...breaking up the monatany of having one DADA teacher every year.
EDIT:
Originally Posted by Da Vinci:
Then I was thinking again and I was wondering what name I was missing and was already introduced in a previous book? Who else is good in DADA and is male? It's quite simple: Krum. Hermione is still in touch (book 5), which means he will be re-appearing in book 6 or 7. He has been to Durmstrang, the school where they had more Dark arts classes as DADA and their ex-headmaster had been a deatheater. For all we know he could be a prince. He is so quiet that it seems he wants to keep a low profile. Let people know not more then they need to know. But what is the real reason for this way of behaving? Ow, and "Krum", that used to be a very powerful person who once ruled like a tsar or emperor in the Bulgarian empire a few hundred years ago.
EDIT: and due to the simple fact that Krum is a national quidditch hero and highly respected by his own people as well as abroad, he could cause a true revolution in the wizarding world to openly support the order and the cause, or maybe he already has connections or he might even be the leader of another order which is more like a large secret army (like order of the Phoenix, but larger). He could have worked on that in secret with Karkaroff for all we know. Karkaroff wasn't that stupid you know. He might have fled, but if you know the powers and reach of Lord Voldemort, then he should have a very good hiding place and backup plan to save himself.
The first part of your argument on Victor Krum was well developed, and even if I don't (and I don't) think that Krum will be the next DADA teacher, you made some valid points, especially in that bit about his ability with the Dark Arts because of his time at Durmstang. However, about the edit...I can't really see how becoming the DADA teacher (especially from a foriegn school) would "cause a true revolution in the wizarding world," as you said. For one, what would they (the people) be revolting against? Now that the Ministry has openly accepted the return of Voldemort, the people are made aware of his threat, and Dumbledore has been redeemed, what would there be to revolt against? To me, the acceptance of the Order/the support of the Order seems to be a point-of-view that the people would automatically take to...especially if they are anti-Voldemort or are unsympathetic to his cause.
Originally Posted by mehnkle:
I think it would be Dumbledore. He is one of the most powerful wizards, and would easily do a good job.
I think it is very safe to rule out Dumbledore. Although he is a very powerful wizard, who would tend to the Headmaster position? That seems like a more important role and job for Dumbledore to consume his time with.
Along these lines, I think that it is also safe to rule out Harry in becoming the next DADA teacher as he is still in school. IF he was granted a position (not that he is trying to apply) then he would be teaching classes of students that are a year older then him...which doesn't make any sense when you stop and think about it. Harry is fantastic at DADA and he definately has experience teaching with the DA and what-not, but the fact remains that he is too young to hold a teaching position, much less a job at all. He is only sixteen in this next book, just barely old enough to get a job.
Nicole September 30th, 2004, 4:25 pm Quote from xharrypotterx: I can definately see both sides in this case. Throughout the septology, each book has revealed a new character in the form of the DADA teacher. It is hard to believe that there JKR would go against this tradition in the final books. However, we at least know (via JKR) that there will be no new characters introduced in the seventh book, and we have no guarentees that there will be a new character in book six. JKR could very well bring back a character for both the new DADA teacher as well as the new Minister of Magic, and then keep these characters in the final two books. The exerpt from JKR's site may be describing Gryffindor (or someone else) for all we know, but I think it is likely that there will be a new character in this book. end quote
Can you please direct me to the source where JKR said no new characters for Book 7? I remember something about not laying new clues because the seventh book is the finale and all mysteries should be solved, but I don't remember anything about no new characters.
Hermione1189 September 30th, 2004, 7:28 pm Well considering that EVERY year the DADA teacher has been a new character I don't see why book six should be any exception.
MinervaM September 30th, 2004, 7:56 pm I am torn between the idea the new DADA teacher will either be a new character or else Snape. I have to agree with everyone else that JKR has mentioned that he wants this job in every book. So I think that he will be the DADA teacher in either Book 6 or 7. Harry definitely needs an excellent grade in Potions to continue if Snape stays as the teacher of this class, and I do not see this happening. Unless of course Harry is not to become an Auror and is going to become something else when he graduates, then it would not matter.
drifting.shadow September 30th, 2004, 8:02 pm i think it would be very cool if dumbledore would teach dada but i think its much more likely that he just gives harry private lassons. i have a feeling that the dad teacher will be another woman, i dont know why, i just have a hunch.
Paul October 2nd, 2004, 7:49 am I think that someone from the OOTP will step up and teach so that tey can teach them spells that will come in handy aginst the D.E. and LV.
gildedmuse October 27th, 2004, 6:44 am I need that quote on "no new characters for book seven", too.
I'm all for the new character introduction, but I don't believe s/he'll be the HBP. Mainly, because I'm a firm believe that the half blood prince is either dead or not a real prince. Besides, the DADA teachers serve important purpose, and they've never been title character's before. Not that I doubt JKR will throw us a few (hundred) more curve balls before the series end.
Anyone, I doubt it will ever be Snape. A lot of people are saying "Well, if Snape becomes the DADA prof. Harry can pass potions." And what about Dark Arts? I mean, Harry REALLY needs to pass that class, and how much is he going to learn while he'd fuming over how much he hates Snape?
Paintball October 27th, 2004, 7:18 pm I am torn between the idea the new DADA teacher will either be a new character or else Snape. I have to agree with everyone else that JKR has mentioned that he wants this job in every book. So I think that he will be the DADA teacher in either Book 6 or 7. Harry definitely needs an excellent grade in Potions to continue if Snape stays as the teacher of this class, and I do not see this happening. Unless of course Harry is not to become an Auror and is going to become something else when he graduates, then it would not matter.
If my double agent theory is correct about Snape and JKR follows the usual deception of spy novels when there are double agents, then doubledore will have Snape appear to be caught spying for LV and run to his side, becoming just a spy for the order. If he makes this move at the end of book 6 then Snape could be the new DADA teacher during book 6 and continue the theme of this teacher only lasting 1 year. It would also allow another Portions teacher who would take Harry. This doesn't however follow the theme that the DADA's teacher has always been a new character.
MiaHalliwell October 27th, 2004, 7:35 pm I think there is a reason that Dumbledore doesn't let Snape teach DADA, probably because he is afraid that it would be to much of a temptation for Snape to be around the dark arts again. Maybe we will see the "real" Moody be book 6's DADA teacher, it could be someone that we have already met, but JKR likes to use that slot to introduce new characters, so as much as I would love to see Lupin or Moody return, I think it will be somone that we haven't met yet. Possibly the HBP?????
TurKisH October 28th, 2004, 12:00 pm i think snape is just a sweet teacher full stop. he would be a sweet teacher, like wooo hes strict but who hasn't had a teacher like u just have to get over it ( sopmething harry will never do) and get on with it. listen to what they say and do it, like if harry had bothered listening in snapes class he could of made some kick *** potions over his years, something he may do if he makes it into snapes newt class, something i would very much like to see howthey would both take it.
natemac October 28th, 2004, 12:15 pm I doubt it is Snape. The reason Dumbledore would not let him teach DADA is because DD thought "it would bring out the worst of him." I still do not think he is ready.
As for Harry's sake, I hope he stays at potions so HP could still be interested in DADA. There are 2 reasons Harry did badly in potions. Snape was just outright unfair, and Harry was not listening. I don't think it would go very well if Harry took a NEWT in potions. Unless.....There was something catastrophic in the sixth book that brought Hogwarts and or the Order affiliates closely together...
-nate
gildedmuse October 28th, 2004, 3:10 pm Of course Harry will do well in his NEWTS. It's still a children's book, and as a children's hero Harry is strangly god like and able to ppull through even the toughest situations. And potions, in Harry's case, is a tough sitiation.
Lucybird October 28th, 2004, 3:38 pm Maybe the liion like person?
Joyce13 October 28th, 2004, 7:16 pm Maybe a member of the Order we know about, like Tonks or Kingsley Shacklebolt, or a new one. Or maybe they'll have Remus Lupin back. Or they could have Harry teach the sixth years and below and Dumbledore will teach the seventh years.
Violet Black October 28th, 2004, 10:25 pm I have a feeling Tonks might be the next DADA teacher, mainly because there's only been one female DADA teacher thus far - Umbridge - and she was horrible. I think it's time we saw a 'good' female in the position. Tonks' commitments to the Order might pose difficulties, though Snape seems to have no problems fitting his Order work around his teaching.
Kalth October 28th, 2004, 10:32 pm I think that Lupin will be the next teacher...
but, now that the war begun... maybe they will need someone who used dark arts before... mm? Snape may finally become the new DADA teacher.
I think It make sens... I mean, JKR is well know to put triggers in previous book and make something interesting in the end... so...Snape want the post of DADA until now... I think it should be cool the "read" Harry mastering Dark Arts whit a snape who has nothing to say to Harry ^^
Jerrika October 28th, 2004, 10:42 pm Oh, I hope Lupin comes back! That would be sexcell... excellent! He obviously was the most competent DADA teacher, and he's Moony.
Okay, Violet Black (or whoever started the Tonks as DADA idea) you might be on to something. Tonks is an Auror, so she's obviously qualified in fighting baddies. Interesting idea for sure.
But I'm still hoping that Remus comes back. That would make me very happy. Though, despite what my heart wants, I have a feeling the JKR will be introducing a new character yet again.
gildedmuse October 28th, 2004, 10:54 pm Do we really want Tonks teaching DADA? *Shivers*. Anyway, she's one of Dumbledore's connections into the Ministry, so I'm pretty sure she'll be staying where she is. Plus, she worked hard for that job. I doubt she'd give it up just as it was getting interesting again.
And, hey, Jerrika, Moody was a competent teacher. Look at everything he taught Harry and classmates. Okay, so he was an evil, back stabbing son of a death eater (figuratively, of course) but he was still competent.
I don't think we'll see Remus back, either. :( *Sigh* He was such a good teacher. Expect for all those days he had to take off and that part where he turned into a werewolf and Peter got away and so Sirius had to be a convict instead of being freed and - oh yeah - he almost bit Harry and co. Yet, I still love him. Anyway, he's working for the order now and they need him. He's a very handy wizard to have around (expect during that time of the month). Besides, think of all the notes the school would get. I know if there was a werewolf teaching my class, while I would think it was the coolest thing ever my mother would probably write in and complain about his and the principal's mental state. *Shrugs*
Raven_Girly October 29th, 2004, 10:32 am The DADA teacher has always been someone new and unknown in past years so I guess it will be the same in HBP. I think it would be quite cool to see Snape finally get his dream job, though...
Nathaniel October 29th, 2004, 1:02 pm The DADA teacher has always been someone new and unknown in past years so I guess it will be the same in HBP. I think it would be quite cool to see Snape finally get his dream job, though...
We've seen Snape teach the class once, and it's clear that it wasn't much fun for the students. Personally, I think it will be Professor Dumbledore. Why? Dumbledore's Army. Let me give my reasoning:
In OotP, Hermione and Ron came up with the idea of a Defense Against the Dark Arts club, got Harry to teach it, and called it "Dumbledore's Army." However, it was forbidden. Hence, they had secret meetings.
That evil toad Umbridge is gone. So, if the club would no longer be illegal. So, IMO, it will be continued as the Defense Against the Dark Arts class, with Dumbledore as the teacher.
I do think it will be Dumbledore. My reasoning may be a little weak (because I do know it is :D), but I do think it will be him from now on. Honestly, I hope it isn't Snape, because something tells me the only teacher worse than Snape was Umbridge, and I think Snape getting that class might not be good for anyone except Slytherins.
lethally_blonde October 29th, 2004, 1:33 pm Maybe if tonks were to get the DADA job she would be used less as a spy and more of a scout?
Trying to get some of the students up to OotP standards.
Theatre Diva October 30th, 2004, 1:17 am I think that the DADA teacher in the sixth book will be someone new, as all of the DADA teachers have been so far. If the teacher is a regular character, then I think he/she should definitely be someone from the Order. Tonks perhaps... she's be a competent female DADA teacher. I think that Dumbledore should be the DADA teacher in the last book, cause it just seems right to conclude the series like that. Personally, I don't think that Snape will ever get his dream job, although I'd like to see what would happen if he did. It just wouldn't feel right if Snape had that job....I can't really explain it...
So my position on this is that the new DADA teacher will either be completely new, or someone from the Order of the Phoenix.
IMPULSENINE October 30th, 2004, 2:18 am I think what this discussion starts coming down to is how attached JKR is to her little patterns. She certainly has many of them, and I think we here in the Divination Studies have uncovered most of them (and not a few that don't really exist).
For example, for a while you could bank on a longer book, but now that seems to be changing. For another, HP books have always started towards the beginning(ish) of the summer and ended up with Harry at 9 3/4 being picked up by the Dursleys.
The obvious pattern with DADA teacher has been: introduce new character, have them reveal themselves as doing something remarkably unexpected and/or evil (contain Voldemort in Quirrel's head, be a cheat, be a freaking werewolf, be an impostor, or sublimely callous and evil) and be disposed of in an equally remarkable way. Lather, rinse, repeat.
So one's opinion of this particular matter really comes down to whether or not you think she'll break this (and other) pattern(s). Meaning, unfortunately, there's really no way to tell.
Somnombulist October 30th, 2004, 2:23 am Maybe Aberforth? Dumbledore's brother,whom many think is the bartender at the hog's head... he's mentioned subtly enough that he would be new, but not brand new
Artermis_Hoou October 30th, 2004, 11:34 am I know this has been said before but Lupin wouldmake the best DADA teacher. Dumbledore has let Hagrid on even though everyone knows he is a Giant and he is still working in Hogworts so why can't DD just write to the parents saying that Lupin would be the best choice...
I just hope he doesn't make Snape the DADA teacher
xharrypotterx November 3rd, 2004, 2:53 am Originally Posted by Artemis Hoou:
I know this has been said before but Lupin would make the best DADA teacher. Dumbledore has let Hagrid on even though everyone knows he is a Giant and he is still working in Hogworts so why can't DD just write to the parents saying that Lupin would be the best choice...
Although Lupin would make and is the best choice (in my mind at least) for the DADA teacher position, I still stand behind what I said before about him not wanting to accept the job. Because he is a werewolf, he does not want to endanger the students once a month. It makes sense when you think about it.
Originally Posted by IMPULSENINE:
I think what this discussion starts coming down to is how attached JKR is to her little patterns. She certainly has many of them, and I think we here in the Divination Studies have uncovered most of them (and not a few that don't really exist).
Hmmm...interesting point you bring up here IMPULSENINE. If it came down to whether or not JKR is going to stick with her patterns, I believe that she will. I can't see any real inclination, besides speculation, that the new DADA would be someone besides a new character.
P.S. I apologize for what I posted earlier in this thread, when I mis-quoted JKR. I based this on a rumor here in the forums. Once again, my apologies.
Somnombulist November 3rd, 2004, 3:14 am Aberforth! Aberforth! Aberforth!
Kat Leya November 3rd, 2004, 3:21 am I just hope he doesn't make Snape the DADA teacher
Snape would be a good DADA teacher tho.
But a part of me is quite sure Snape won't have the job cause 1. Dumbledore never gave it to him before and always made new teachers come
2. Snape will already be busy enough this year and shouldnt have to deal with a new course
3. Who would give potion courses then?
Perdita November 3rd, 2004, 3:47 am I predict that the new DADA teacher will be someone that we've met before. In fact, I think it might be one of the members of the Order: Kingsley Shacklebolt or Emmeline Vance.
I think it might be Shacklebolt, because he has been featured as a cool auror in the past, so making him a teacher of DADA would not be too far fetched. Readers are familiar with him, and so it will not be difficult to form a bond with him.
The other candidate could be Emmeline Vance. She was another member of the Advance Guard who came to rescue Harry in OOTP. She is described as being stately looking, and she has had lots of experience in fighting the DEs. She has been a member of the Order for over 30 years.
I think that DD might want someone on his side to teach the class this time (as opposed to someone appointed by Fudge). This way, DD increases the presence of reliable and trustworthy people on his staff at Hogwarts, during a year when there will be more risk of danger.
HorseGirl November 3rd, 2004, 5:41 am I agree with what a few people have said before, that it will be someone we haven't met before.
Annely November 3rd, 2004, 5:44 am I also think it's gonna be a new one....but Tonks would be funny with her catastrophe attitude
TheDarkLordSam November 3rd, 2004, 5:53 am I also think it's gonna be a new one....but Tonks would be funny with her catastrophe attitude
I've heard a lot of people saying that it they'd like it to be Tonks. That might be cool. I'm not sure if they'd be able to get new person to take the job because of the past. In my opinion, I think it'd will end up being a member of the Order that takes the job. Like. . . Tonks! :)
dementorsekiss November 3rd, 2004, 7:03 am i thin kit'll be someone from the order
Salamair November 3rd, 2004, 7:26 am I siriously doubt that Professor Snape will become the new DaDA teacher. First of all Lord Voldemort is back and I think the professor will spent more than a little time running to him when he calls. You know they need him there in the ranks, he wouldn't have time to notice the poor grammar of the griffindors.
Before any of you mention a timeturner, I agree on that, exept that I believe it would be of better use if he used it to devide his time between Death Eater meetings and potion lessons.
I do not doubt in any way that he would be the perfect DaDA teacher with all his background knowlegde, but he is of better use as a spy at the time being.
Neither do I believe that the Headmaster will take on the job: he is planning a war, besides he retired years ago from his post as a teacher. By the way, remember he was a transfiguration teacher.
Mr. Lupin would not be allowed to come back. He is a werewolf and if he came back the parents, who were, you must keep in mind, vary of Dumbledore and though they believe in him now I do not believe that they will let him do this. In the wizarding world werewolfs still cause masshysteria.
The most likely choice, in my mind, would be an auror, perhaps and most likely a member of the Order of the Pheonix.
koetje November 3rd, 2004, 7:34 am I was just thinking that we all know jk won't introduce many new characters but I think she will introduce luna's dad to us, ok we already know small things about him so he is not totally new. I think that the one who will help harry with his task to kill voldy will in fact be lana's dad. We all know he works as head editor of the kibbler ( that what is called in dutch is it in english to sorry don't got the books on me). but I don't thinkl he is a weirdo ofcourse not everything in the kibbler is true but I think the most things are or have a basis of trueth in them So because he knows somuch about things other people don't he will be able to help harry. I also have the idea he wil be the new dada teather. because dumbledore thinks he is right. That would put him in the perfect spot to help harry
so what do you all think
vitacus November 3rd, 2004, 3:17 pm Maybe Arthur will be given an assigned leave from the MoM to teach DADA at Hogwarts. They sent Umbridge so why not send another, this time someone they can trust under Dumbledore's reccomendation. Arthur's got the daily experience dealing with things that go awry. He can be there to protect Harry without being an obvious guard like an Auror would be. He'd provide Draco and his goons another conveinient target for ridicule... seeing as how it's unlikely they'll continue taking Hagrid 'the oafs' class.
Perdita November 3rd, 2004, 4:17 pm I was just thinking that we all know jk won't introduce many new characters but I think she will introduce luna's dad to us, ok we already know small things about him so he is not totally new. I think that the one who will help harry with his task to kill voldy will in fact be lana's dad. We all know he works as head editor of the kibbler ( that what is called in dutch is it in english to sorry don't got the books on me). but I don't thinkl he is a weirdo ofcourse not everything in the kibbler is true but I think the most things are or have a basis of trueth in them So because he knows somuch about things other people don't he will be able to help harry. I also have the idea he wil be the new dada teather. because dumbledore thinks he is right. That would put him in the perfect spot to help harry
so what do you all think
Hi, Koetje,
I don't think that Mr. Lovegood will be a good candidate for the role of teaching DADA. He probably knows a lot about the strange things that go on, since he is the editor of the paper that reports strange events. Judging by JKR's pattern, she will likely use Mr. Lovegood to help Harry with some important information later on in the series. So far, he's already helped Harry once with publishing Rita Skeeter's article in the Quibbler. I wouldn't be surprised if he comes back later in the series and helps Harry again.
Thing is, knowing about a a lot of strange happenings does not make him a strong practitioner of the defensive skills when fighting against the dark arts. And if he has not been practicing DADA, I doubt he'll be able to teach it very well. DADA is like Phys.Ed. Just knowing all the rules and how-to-do-this does not mean that one will know how to perform under pressure.
Maybe Arthur will be given an assigned leave from the MoM to teach DADA at Hogwarts. They sent Umbridge so why not send another, this time someone they can trust under Dumbledore's reccomendation. Arthur's got the daily experience dealing with things that go awry. He can be there to protect Harry without being an obvious guard like an Auror would be. He'd provide Draco and his goons another conveinient target for ridicule... seeing as how it's unlikely they'll continue taking Hagrid 'the oafs' class.
Hi, Vaticus,
I don't think Arthur has enough dealings with the Dark Arts and people who exploit it to cause mayhem. Arthur has been in charge of the department that deals with magical use gone troublesome in the muggle world. He knows how to fix problems of that nature, and this is why his job is so important. He helps to keep order in each of the muggle and wizarding worlds. If he were to leave his job, there might not be another who will do such a good job, and then wizards (bad, irresponsible or just plain mischeivous) will be wreaking havoc on the muggles, performing all these spells and hexes. If the muggle world starts to fall apart, then the MOM will have a 2nd huge can of worms to deal with.
As for Arthur being a guardian figure for Harry, I like that idea, but I also have to admit that it's time for Harry to come into his own, and not depend on a father figure anymore. He is special and he has a lot of responsibility, and in order to do what he needs to do, he should start in book 6 to learn what it is to be completely alone, without any more guardians to help him. Of course, he is not totally alone becuase he has a group of very loyal friends who will help him. I believe that as long as Harry thinks that he can rely on a father figure like DD or Lupin or Arthur, he will not be able to completely accept his role. He has become a leader now, and that means that he needs to grow up way sooner than all the other wizards his age. It's not fair, but that's his destiny.
Sophie Patil November 3rd, 2004, 4:36 pm I don't think that the new DADA teacher will be someone from the order. they all have jobs, and I think they're pretty busy doing their job, most of them being aurors....
I think it will be someone that we haven't met before. and I hope so as well...
I'm thinking maybe dumbledore will even teach himself. I know he's busy and all, but he will want the kids to learn it all, because HE knows how important it is, that they know how to defend themselves...
mack123 November 4th, 2004, 3:08 am Im gunna dismiss the tonks thing, although i agree that it should be a member of the order. Whats the best way to protect harry? PUT ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE ORDER AT HOGWARTS......Tonks was too rowdy and out of control to be a teacher, but her auror counterpart Kingsley Shackelbolt Would make the perfect DADA teacher, mature, knowledgeable....but most of all one of the most talented wizards in the order other than lupin, moody or dumbledore. Since moody and lupin have both done it already.......i highly suspect it will be shackelbolt.
danfan4ever November 4th, 2004, 3:23 am i think the DADA teacher will be someone that can help Harry bc of a wierd pattern
1st book Quirrell--no help to harry
2nd book Lockhart--no help to harry
3rd book Lupin--major help to harry
4th book Moody--lots of help to harry even though an enemy to harry
5th book Umbridge--worst yet...none to harry
so to me it only seems fit that someone in this book will be there to help harry
maybe someone to help dumbledore look out for harry if he isnt there...an auror...
maybe Kingsley Shackbolt
wasnt he the one that was after Sirius???
or was suppose to be anywayz???
Perdita November 4th, 2004, 3:41 am Kingsley Shacklebolt was in charge of the hunt for Sirius, which is probably why they never found him! :p
BlackHeart November 4th, 2004, 5:21 am The most likely choice, in my mind, would be an auror, perhaps and most likely a member of the Order of the Pheonix.
That would be my choice too. But I think it will be a member we don't know yet. JK has been introducing new characters for the DADA every year at Hogwarts. What's to say she'll change that now?
nano November 4th, 2004, 7:51 pm ... But I think it will be a member we don't know yet. JK has been introducing new characters for the DADA every year at Hogwarts. What's to say she'll change that now?So what about Felix Felicis okay - we don't know yet, if that is a person, spell, motto or what, but my bet would be, it is the new DADA teacher ...
nano
xharrypotterx November 5th, 2004, 1:39 am The biggest reasons to doubt the appointment of an Order member to the DADA position is this:
If Dumbledore wanted to appoint an Order member, why didn't he do it last year thereby defying Fudge by not letting Umbridge into the teaching position at his school?
To me appointing an Order member, however cool, doesn't make much sense because of this point. All of the members of the Order are qualified for and would make a fabulous addition to the teaching staff and the lives of the students at Hogwarts, but I don't really see any of them actually getting the job.
FirefightingMuggle November 5th, 2004, 2:59 am I had a theory a long time ago that there was a pattern among DADA teacher in the HP books.
Quirrel-PS/SS evil
Lockhart- CoS inept/ulterior motive (to further his career and glorify himself)
Lupin- PoA good
False Moody-GoF evil
Umbridge- OotP inept/ulterior motive (to establish MoM control of the school)
New Character-HBP-good
New Character-Book 7-evil
Each of the DADA teachers has been a new character introduced in each book, and each of them was introduced to Harry before he actually arrived at Hogwarts. Quirrel at the Leaky Cauldron, Lockhart at Flourish and Blotts, Lupin on the Hogwarts Express, Moody by Diggory in the Weasley's fire (or False Moody/Crouch Jr. at the Quidditch World Cup take your pick), Umbridge at his trial at the MoM. Also, each of the good or evil characters actually acted to further the story line of the war between Harry and Voldemort orhelped Harry in unraveling the story of his past and his parents.
My prediction...look carefully at new characters with good dispositions who are introduced to Harry before he actually arrives at Hogwarts. I'm guessing that the new DADA teacher will be able to help Harry find out more about his parents as well as further the plot line of the war between good and evil.
By following the pattern of evil, inept, good, not only are we opening the door to a DADA teacher in HBP that will further Harry's knowledge of DADA, we are also opening the door to some interesting possibilities of an Evil DADA teacher in Book 7....and an evil DADA teacher in book 7 could spell some interesting times for Hogwarts.
Salamair and others before him have raised the possibility of an auror becoming the new DADA teacher. While this is a cool idea, I have heavy doubts that it is a serious possibility. The aurors are going to be very very busy hunting down Death Eaters and Voldemort. I don't think that it would be wise of the Ministry to sacrifice the talents of one of their best, just so that the auror could teach at Hogwarts. I think that the abilities of the aurors are best used in the greater war against Voldemort and his cronies.
danfan4ever November 5th, 2004, 3:02 am i agree that it mite not be an person of the Order for the reason rite above...
also that the ppl in the Order r gonna have a lot of things on their hands rite now not just watchin out for Harry...
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StephyJ_83 November 6th, 2004, 3:21 pm Will this DADA finally stay on longer than one school year? Will Snape get his dream job? Will Lupin return?hehe . . . this DADA teacher stay on for longer than one school year? I doubt it . . . :rotfl: Sorry, but I have always found it amusing that they never last longer than a year.
I doubt Snape will get his dream job because Snape is extremely harsh in potions . . . just think how he would be in DADA! :scared: We need a teacher that will actually encourage the students to learn, not scare them out of their wits. Slytherins would be the only ones who would benefit from that, and we all know that Draco doesn't need more ammo to pull people down with.
Lupin . . . I really wish Lupin would come back, but I doubt that as well. Remember how in OotP Sirius said that Umbridge drafted some anti-werewolf legislation that makes it almost impossible for him to get a job? That alone would keep him from Hogwarts. Unless the new MoM got rid of that little piece of legislation . . . ooooh! That'd be nice! :agree:
Sam_Fisher November 6th, 2004, 3:42 pm its going to be a new charter i bet
Dog_star November 6th, 2004, 7:12 pm I think that the DADA will be the HBP. I mean the titles named after him/her! So logically he'll have an important part to play in the following book. Meanin that he'll most probabaly be at hogwarts!!
fea November 23rd, 2004, 3:23 am Ok, I haven't read the entire thread (sorry, but it would take too much time), but here's an idea I had about Snape.
For what we saw in Harry's exams, I suppose he will get a Outstanding in DADA, but won't have the required level in Potions (neither Ron nor Neville, I think).
So, Harry wants to be an auror, he needs Potions, and we know that Dumbledore is always there to save the situation in an unexpected way (like in the hearing).
My idea is that Snape will get the job in HBP, but he will get it so that Harry can go on with his ambition of becoming an auror. Another Potions teacher would ask a lower and more reasonable mark of his students, and if Snape asks for a DADA Outstanding OWL, it won't be a problem for Harry.
And it would be too fun to see how Snape would react to having his life dream fulfilled because of Dumbledore's excess of worriing about Harry. He woul hate him even more than now!!! :rotfl:
muggledeedee November 23rd, 2004, 3:43 am Going on what I ahve thought for myself and readng the other posts, it seems most logical that it will be a new character introduced to us in the sixth book, Harry will have met the person before he actually gets to Hogwarts, it is unlikely that the person is in the Order (but since the return of Voldemort is public knowledge, there should be a lot more people in the Order so I wouldn't rule it out) and this person will be a great help to Harry and all the students at learning DADA.
Since it seems we will meet this person before the return to Hogwarts, I can't wait to read the book and figure out who it is from the just reading the first few chapters.
Oh, and I agree that the person will only be staying a year - why would Jo give up this little tradition at the end of the series? I would be rather disappointed for the same DADA teacher two years in a row!
fea November 23rd, 2004, 4:16 am Snape wouldn't necessarily keep the job two years. Dumbledore could put him back to Potions once Harry is accepted on it. And more if the new potions master gets dead/sacked/mad.
natemac December 3rd, 2004, 12:16 pm Well, since the other thread about DD being the prof, here is my post in this.
Having Dumbledore teach the DADA classes would be nice. Definately not all the classes, but maybe Harry's. That would hopefully make up for Dumbledore's mistake in not teaching Harry Occlumency. DD does owe Harry something.
Each time I ponder into threads like this, I just think about how much I want to read book six. I just can't wait. I find myself thinking about it almost every day. I suppose that might not be to healthy...
Cheers,
Nate
LilCubanita67 December 3rd, 2004, 2:22 pm As most people have said I think that it will be a new teacher coming to Hogwarts to teach DADA. It's almost like a tradition...a new character that we have never heard of before.
xharrypotterx December 12th, 2004, 2:06 am Originally Posted by natemac:
Having Dumbledore teach the DADA classes would be nice. Definately not all the classes, but maybe Harry's. That would hopefully make up for Dumbledore's mistake in not teaching Harry Occlumency. DD does owe Harry something.
While I agree with you in your statement about Dumbledre's mistake in not teaching Harry Occlumency, I do not think that Dumbledore owes Harry anything, quite the opposte. If anyone owes any one anything, it should be Harry saying thanks to Dumbledore for hiding him for the first eleven years and further protecting him with the spell that he finished with Petunia. Even Voldemort can not harm Harry there, he said so himself. I'm not saying that Harry should somehow pay homage to Dumbledore, or compensate him in any way...loyalty does that enough.
Also, what good would it be for Dumbledore to teach just one of the Defense Against the Dark Arts classes? Either he would teach all of the DADA classes or none. Why would he hire a new (I think it will be a new person, but you never know) teacher and then releave the teacher for just one class? The only scenario I could think of would be if Dumbledore appointed Snape (I don't think so) for the DADA job, hired a new person to teach potions (also making it easier on Harry to become an Auror) and then let Snape have a class period off so that Dumbledore could teach Harry Defense Against the Dark Arts.
Like LilCubanita67 said:
As most people have said I think that it will be a new teacher coming to Hogwarts to teach DADA. It's almost like a tradition...a new character that we have never heard of before.
Lucybird December 12th, 2004, 3:28 pm Maybe the lion like man? I think it's possible it will be a member of the Order. It'd be cool if Lupin came back but I thhhink quite a few of the parents would protest about that. Maybe Moody again as he didn't actually teach first time around. I don't think it'll be any of the aurors, they'll be too busy now the ministry know Voldy's back
LunaStar_1000 December 12th, 2004, 8:57 pm I really wish Lupin would come back to teach but I know that is not possible, I guess it would'nt be that bad if someone from the Order came to teach, Dumbledore would also be a cool choice!
Just please...No more Umbridge!!!
sergorat December 12th, 2004, 9:11 pm Umbridge is as possible as Lupin. I tjhink they'll get a new one as a teacher. One of the old crowd (as DD calls Remus Lupin, Arabella Figg, Mundungus Flether in GoF) might teach. Another possibilites are Charlie or Bill Weasley.
Auror Fett December 12th, 2004, 9:16 pm Some people are saying it may be an Auror, which is quite possible, giving the current events now. Maybe since the Ministry now knows Voldemort is indeed back, will they recommend to Dumbledore an Auror to take the post as the new DADA teacher so they educate students with as much DADA knowledge as possible. If it was an Auror, maybe it will be Kingsly, which was a seriously cool good guy that kicked plenty of DE's around at the DoM. Then there's that other Auror, forget his name, it was the one who was with the Order but Dumbledore had to stun to make his escape look real. Either of them would be good for the job, as Kinglsy is just a plain powerhouse (thinks of Mace Windu with a wand) and the other Dumbledore mentioned scored extremely well on his O.W.Ls. However, owing to both of them are Aurors with duties plus they are in the Order could make it extremely difficult for them to manage three different jobs at the same time. I've done this whole Auror statement without really stating my idea on who it will be! I believe it will be a male teacher, but nothing more than that. Have no idea who it'd be although I'm sure it will be someone new. I don't think J.K. will ever reuse a previous DADA teacher, it's just not her style.
aragog_addict December 13th, 2004, 7:15 am I don't think the new DADA teacher will be anyone from the order, they are just too busy, and I don't think it will be Snape, mainly because I wonder just how much Snapes really wants the job, I know that he keeps applying but the speech that he gave in his very first lesson makes him sound likes he loves potions, and is very good at it too, I don't think DD will let him leave potions, and I'm not sure if he even wants to. I've got my money on the lion guy, but I'm not sure there are plent of other possiblities.
Snivvilus December 13th, 2004, 11:46 am I WANT LUPIN BACK...
btw i have a feeling the DADA teacher will be the Half Blood prince. and a brand new character
Ste619 December 13th, 2004, 1:21 pm theres a link i think between DADA Teahcers and main parts of the books
1.Quirrell-Voldermort in bak of his head
2.Lockhart-Went with Harry + Ron to Go Save Ginny
3.Lupin-Werewolf and helped sirius get into hogwarts and to tell harry bout peter pettigrew
4.Moody-(Crouch In Disguise)(pollyjiuce potion) helped voldermort live again
5.Umbridge-Sent Dementors after harry
6.???????-Who Knows perhaps snape may finally get the chancelol(1% chance lol)
whoever it maybe it is clear it will affect harry in someway.
who knows it could be fudge since he won't be minister of maigc anymore
Meldy December 13th, 2004, 1:39 pm Lupin can´t be the DADA teacher (althoug I´d love thatas his my favourite character) because everyone knows he is a werewolf so it can´t be possible.
I think a new character is going to get the job.
you should read that theory about the poison task (snape´s) in PS/SS and it´s realation to DADA teachers. It´s really great!!!
I am almort sure that Snape will get the job in the seventh book, I´d love to read that!!!
I don´t think Dumbledore will be a professor again because he is too busy doing things for the order, fighting the ministry of magic (I wish the new minister is more intelligent) and trying to save the world from the DE and Lord Voldemort.
yrome December 13th, 2004, 5:14 pm Sorry I didn't read all the posts, so apologies if i am repeating anything.
We know that JKR said that Books 6 and 7 would be like two halves of one book (sorry, can't cite the exact interview), so it seems reasonable to think that the DADA teacher actually might be the same for the last two books. That being said, it may be Snape. Maybe when he left in the end of Book 5 to go see LV, he was going to tell him he had been made DADA teacher. Then he could study Harry and "report" to LV what are Harry's weaknesses. Having been a DE, I am sure he knows exactly what LV might do to Harry and, being a member of the Order, he will have to do his best to prepare/help Harry. Maybe that's why Dd looked apprehensive, b/c he finally had to make Snape DADA teacher, which was not ideal but needed to be done.
ranous December 13th, 2004, 5:29 pm I think we will have two new teachers in book six....i think
what if snape, who already hates harry a bit more for looking in the pensieve, taunts harry over sirius and harry attacks him...what if that makes snape go over to the DE?
that would mean a new DADA teacher, and a new POTIONS teacher.
DADA = Tonks....she hasnt had a lot to do so far....its time for her fifteen minutes of fame :rotfl:
POTIONS = who knows?
ps. I think Dumbledore is the Half blood prince! :p
spacecase December 13th, 2004, 5:35 pm This is wishful thinking, but I think it would be cool if they had Lupic back as a DADA teacher. I think that he was the best one. Granted...they did learn a lot with crouch jr posing as moody, but there's the whole aspect of him lying the entire year and giving Harry up to LV.
The DADA teacher has always been someone who we didn't know of until the start of the book...but who's to say that Jo won't make it someone that we already know...like Snape.
I am not a huge Snape fan like I've noticed a lot of people are, but I kind of feel sorry for the guy. He has been trying to get the DADA job forever and other people always get it. I think that moody and lupin might make better candidates, but Lockhart?? I mean, come on! Snape's very qualified. But...if he's the DADA teacher, who will teach potions? Will he teach both? If he doesn't teach potions, will Harry actually have someone that he doesn't blow it with?
(and apologies...I didn't read all of the post...that's a lot of posts.)
nivekllerttoc December 13th, 2004, 5:44 pm Here is why Snape will NOT get the DADA job:
http://www.mugglenet.com/editorials/thenorthtower/nt30.shtml
It's an editorial by maline freden, and definetly has great points about Snape. If you don't feel like reading the whole thing, this is the real gist of it:
"Snape would undoubtedly fit the pattern.
But… I don’t think it’ll be him. Firstly because he’s already the Potions Master and if he’d get the job teaching DADA, Dumbledore would have to find a new man to teach Potions (which might be a way for Harry to take the subject at NEWT level even if he doesn’t get an O in his OWL). If you look as Snape’s first speech to the class in PS/SS, it seems weird that he’d even want to change. He obviously loves dealing with potions and is extremely good at it. His classes are advanced for their level (Umbridge, OotP) and one does learn from hardship, so I don’t see why Dumbledore would want to replace him. I actually don’t even think that Snape really wants the DADA job (despite the rumours). I think he originally applied for it and kept applying for it because that’s where Voldemort would want him to work. Just like Fudge placed Umbridge in the DADA position to stop the Hogwarts students from learning to defend themselves and being used against the MoM, Voldemort would probably want Snape in a position where he’s able to teach not only DEFENSE against the Dark Arts, but also some ACTUAL Dark Art theory and be able to influence his students’ attitudes towards the Dark Arts (and eventually get new followers for him). Voldemort wants Snape to teach DADA, which is precisely why Dumbledore refuses to give him the job. Also, Snape wouldn’t want it because that would make his situation as double-spy extremely complicated: he’d have to teach the students enough to please Dumbledore but little enough to please Voldemort. Difficult and dangerous, and very similar to the situation in OotP, where Snape is put to the task of teaching Harry Occlumency, a skill Harry’s not allowed to master for Voldemort’s sake. Luckily for Snape, Harry hates him enough not to take the matter seriously and Snape could thereby tell both his masters that he did everything he could but that Harry just didn’t want to learn (although the version would change quite a bit between the two reports).
So, Snape probably doesn’t want the DADA job, and Dumbledore doesn’t want him to have it either, so unless the two of them cook up some new plan to fool Voldemort, Snape will not get the position."
That is excellent.
cornish_pixies December 14th, 2004, 1:13 pm I don't think Snape will be, I think that will make one of Harry's favourite subjects just too unbearable. And I can't imagine him not being the potions master. Also Lupin being it again (though I would love that) will break the pattern of a new teacher every year. No, I think it'll be someone completely new - but I think they'll be far nicer and less evil than Umbridge. No way is Harry going to have to deal with that two years in a row.
MiaHalliwell December 14th, 2004, 11:56 pm I WANT LUPIN BACK...
btw i have a feeling the DADA teacher will be the Half Blood prince. and a brand new characterI agree with this, but I also believe that he will put at Hogwarts to help protect the kids, so I think he is going to be really powerful, but not as powerful as Dumbledore.
wyldstallyns007 December 15th, 2004, 12:12 am oh poor prf. umbridge! i loved her do dearly.....................NO! that was NOT sarcasm.........................hmmmmmmm.......... ..now i believe the ofcourse mr. lockheart is going to came back and teach dada again! no, so kidding, jkr said he wont be in it much more, right? ok, not on a more serious note, i believe that the new DADA teach is going to be probably a new character, it has been thus far......she might shock us though and ut will be some one we never suspected, Malfoy's mummy? hey, now that his daddy's in a cell somewhere theyve got to get some $money$ some how.... oh how about, what was her name again, ah yes i recall now, Tonks... she is in the order as you all know, shed make a good proffesor! Or even Percy! What a nightmare that would be! Poor Ronald!.............i think i would like that actually, twood be quite funny................
McKinnon02 December 15th, 2004, 12:19 am I think Lucius' family is wealthy beyond what anybody thinks they are. There is old money, but there is also extortion money, blackmail money, investment money, and asset money. I don't think Narcissa will become the DADA teacher- number one, Dumbledore has to approve her. Number two, she's the wife of a proven Death Eater. Number three, Draco's head would explode. :rotfl:
anevilegirl December 15th, 2004, 1:08 am Tonks all the way! Of course this would mess up my theory on how Harry is going to take potions next year, maybe it'll be Snape. Oh, My! I'm so confused! I guess I'll just have to wait.
The_Grey_Lady December 15th, 2004, 4:26 am Now before you naysayers say that Dumbledore would never have a vampire as a professor.
*shakes head in confused way* huh? Vampire.... Half-Blood Prince....wha? *shakes head again* Come again? Throughout the whole post, it was like a given that the HBP was a vampire... Did I miss something?? Please explain this theory further.
Everyone seems to think that Harry won't get an O on his Potion OWL, but this might not be so. Remember, the OWLS weren't given by the Hogwarts teacher of that subject. Seems like I remember something about even Neville not being nervous b/c Snape wasn't around during the Potions OWL. I'm too lazy to consult the book though, so I may be completely making this up. (known to happen!) So Harry may surprise us all and scrape through his Potion Owl!
[OT: I, for one, am worried about his Astronomy OWL. Remember all the hubub with McG going on, and Harry just filling in random answers?!?!]
[Even further OT: wouldn't Arthur Weasley make the COOLEST muggle studies teacher??]
Copo December 15th, 2004, 7:05 am I think Snape will move to DADA professor and someone else will take Snape's place as Potions master.
FIREBLT December 15th, 2004, 7:31 am yeh i have a feeling it will be either lupin or perhaps even the real mad eye moody. As there is a new MoM i think it will be lupin because he is a good friend of most of the staff
and for of those who think the half blood prince is a new character i very much doubt it, i myself think it could be either Hagrid or Seamus Finnigan as JK said she only made sure all the important stuff from the books weren't kept out of the movies and in the first movie u have seamus goin on about his mum being a witch and his dad a muggle.
Seamus: Me mums a witch and me dads a muggle. Nasty suprise for him when he found out eh.
moonlite December 15th, 2004, 7:58 am I WANT LUPIN BACK...
btw i have a feeling the DADA teacher will be the Half Blood prince. and a brand new character
I don't really think so... I mean, we've never had the title of a Harry Potter book dedicated to a DADA teacher...though I guess it's still possible. And Lupin definately rocks! :cool:
Phane00 December 16th, 2004, 8:29 pm This was brought up in another thread about DADA subject matter. I wonder what will be taught in NEWT, although outside of Lupin and fake!Moody I wonder what was supposed to be taught in regular level DADA.
1st year OWL - Quirrelmort taught basics, not much wand work. Mostly theory.
2nd year OWL - Lockhart taught Lockhart and pixies, not a productive year.
3rd year OWL - Lupin taught Dark Creatures.
4th year OWL - fake!Moody taught curses, hexes, and jinxes.
5th year OWL - Harry taught dueling and the Patronus.
So what do you think would make for a good NEWT level DADA? More curses and hexes? Proper dueling? Bigger Dark Creatures, like dragons, giants, and chimeras?
loveofMINE December 16th, 2004, 10:38 pm Another thing that I just can't decide on. :P
drdementor December 26th, 2004, 1:53 pm I have the feeling that the DADA professor will, once again, be someone we meet for the first time.
That said, I think we might be able to figure out what group that person might be from.
Quirrel: normal applicant, got job before possessed
Lockhart: only applicant, self-employed writer
Lupin: regularly unemployed (probably Dumbledore asked him personally)
Moody: retired (ret. Auror) (Voldemort came in with Crouch plan after Moody was hired)
Umbridge: appointed by the Ministry (there WERE no applicants that year)
So, there won't be any regular English applicants, any self-employed ones, any perpetually unemployed ones, any retirees, or any Ministry appointees if Jo also follows this pattern of changing the DADA teacher category.
That leaves us: foreign wizard or witch (not from America, though, but from a country whose witches/wizards we've already met), British wizard or witch who has been out of the country, a non-human Being, a Professor from Hogwarts who switches jobs internally, someone Voldemort sends in directly (because the other ones were possessed or kidnapped after the hiring), a very recent graduate of Hogwarts, and a conglomerate of Hogwarts professors.
I think the conglomerate of professors might actually be the best way to teach the class...basically each professor woul d incorporate DADA into their normal class lessons with a 'Dueling Club' that rotated professor duty outside of class. I don't think that's what Jo will write, though, since it would get a bit confusing to read.
I am excited to learn what the NEWT-level DADA class will involve, too.
Diary December 26th, 2004, 2:39 pm I think it will be either Snape or Dumbledore.
headlessnick December 27th, 2004, 6:01 am I think a new character will teach DADA and he or she will meet the same fate as the rest of them. Snape will teach it in book 7 & he may probably die in the end saving Harry
Starshine9486 December 27th, 2004, 6:11 am I dont know if the Ministry could afford leaving an Auror at Hogwarts, but of course they could have whoever it is there to watch after Harry. I think it will be someone new, because well all the other DADA teachers have been new characters to the specific book they were in.
lucky_132004 December 27th, 2004, 7:20 am I really hope that it's an auror. That way they could be alongside DD and Magonagall (sp?) to protect Harry now that Voldemort is out in the open. If it's another one like umbridge I'll go NUTS! She really got me MAD!!! ARGH! I HATE her...!!!
Angeltiger121 January 1st, 2005, 6:20 pm What if Molly (Mrs Weasley) was the new DADA teacher? She doesn't have a job as far as we know, and other teachers have time to be in the order. Why couldn't she be a Hogwarts teacher, it would make book 6 interesting, and it would be fun to see how Rom and Ginny react to it. And she knows the other taechers and Dumbledore really well, she would be a good teacher, She even knows how to deal with children well.
MissingOctober January 1st, 2005, 6:33 pm No way, lol. Molly is way too controlling-like. She'd be bossing Ron around, asking him if he did his hw. But Harry might get taken easy, which is good for him.
Most likely the DADA proff. in the next book will be someone totally new. Well, maybe not that new, because maybe we've seen them before. I think that Firenze could be it. DD likes Trelawney, so she will be the Divination teacher again, but where does that leave Firenze? He should know DADA because all of the centaurs turned on him and he got away. But, he could be way too sophisticated for the position. No, I don't think that Firenze will be it, but someone new most likely.
Angeltiger121 January 1st, 2005, 6:39 pm QUOTE=MissingOctober
No way, lol. Molly is way too controlling-like. She'd be bossing Ron around, asking him if he did his hw. But Harry might get taken easy, which is good for him.
Okay, so, I agree. :tu: (I suck at using computers)
Motoss January 1st, 2005, 6:45 pm Besides, Molly hasn't shown any especial knowledge of DADA. Just being an Order member doesn't mean we can assume she knows all sorts of Anti-Dark information.
Angeltiger121 January 1st, 2005, 6:48 pm Yeah, she did have a hard time with the boggart. She probibly wouldn't be the best.
Nephel January 1st, 2005, 6:48 pm The selection could fall to an auror; it would be a good choice seeing as Voldemort is now on the loose, and the school will need all the help it can. If it is an auror, who will it be? I'd go for Mad Eye Moody. He never got chance to teach and judging from the batlle in the DoM where he lost his eye :rotfl: I think he is getting to old and should retire, to become a teacher.
Briar Filth January 1st, 2005, 6:51 pm The people I reckon it might be:
* Someone we've never met
* Someone we've met but will come as a major surprise as the new DADA Professor
* Snape (probably not, but he will certainly try to get the job)
* Felix Fel-thingy-doodah, the one that was named in the 3 chapters that JKR gave us
* The Real Moody (an extra person from the Order to keep a magical eye on Harry)
* Lupin again (you never know, but I doubt it)
* Someone else from the Ministry
* Someone who is working undercover for Voldemort
ComicBookWorm January 1st, 2005, 6:56 pm Centaurs have no magic. They just know divination of the stars.
sergorat January 1st, 2005, 6:56 pm I think it's someone new. In each book it was a person, we didn't know. But Harry met all DADA teachers befor he came to Hogwarts:
Quirriel in the Leaky Cauldron, Lockhart in Flourish& Blotts, Lupin in the train, the Weasleys talked about Moody and Harry met the toad Umbridge in the MoM.
So I'd say it depends on the first chapters who is the new teacher.
Briar Filth January 1st, 2005, 6:59 pm I think it's someone new. In each book it was a person, we didn't know. But Harry met all DADA teachers befor he came to Hogwarts:
Quirriel in the Leaky Cauldron, Lockhart in Flourish& Blotts, Lupin in the train, the Weasleys talked about Moody and Harry met the toad Umbridge in the MoM.
So I'd say it depends on the first chapters who is the new teacher.
Eh! That's a really good point actually! :tu:
Tzigone January 1st, 2005, 7:01 pm How about Dobby? Could you imagine Draco's reaction? :rotfl: But hey, we know that even Lucious backed off when Dobby threatened him.
The_Grey_Lady January 1st, 2005, 7:06 pm How about Dobby? Could you imagine Draco's reaction? :rotfl: But hey, we know that even Lucious backed off when Dobby threatened him.
But house-elf magic is special...can't be taught. (Can't tell if you're being facetious or not)
lupislune January 1st, 2005, 7:10 pm So far, each DADA teacher has been someone we do not know from a previous book. I would bet that it will be the same case for book 6.
I really don't think it will be Snape. I don't see anything that has changed to let Dumbledore give him the position.
I suspect the half-blood prince, but I don't think that this is a definate either because the DADA teacher has not shown up in the title of a book as of yet. The DADA teacher has not been the focus of the main plot of a book either. They are always an agent of the plot, some more than others, but the books have never been about them directly.
I do feel that there is a high possibility he/she is an auror.
I don't believe it to be the Lion person because I think this a description of the half-blood prince.
I do think it is possible to be the Mclaggen character that JKR did mention.
This leads me to believe that it will be a new character.
sergorat January 1st, 2005, 7:12 pm Quote:
Originally Posted by Tzigone
How about Dobby? Could you imagine Draco's reaction? But hey, we know that even Lucious backed off when Dobby threatened him.
But house-elf magic is special...can't be taught. (Can't tell if you're being facetious or not)
I suppose that it was facetious.. :rotfl:
Dobby teaching Harry.. "Oh I knew that great Harry Potter can do this, he is so noble. And his noble friends... :blush: "
Nah, I think the DADA is human.
Tzigone January 1st, 2005, 7:13 pm But house-elf magic is special...can't be taught. (Can't tell if you're being facetious or not)
Moderately facetious. I absolutely do not believe Dobby would be the DADA teacher. But I think house-elves are much more powerful than wizards and I think wizards don't let other species have wands because they don't want their dominance threatened. I wasn't aware that house-elf magic couldn't be taught. I would at least think they could teach each other.
Creatively Evil January 1st, 2005, 7:16 pm I think it's someone new. In each book it was a person, we didn't know. But Harry met all DADA teachers befor he came to Hogwarts:
Quirriel in the Leaky Cauldron, Lockhart in Flourish& Blotts, Lupin in the train, the Weasleys talked about Moody and Harry met the toad Umbridge in the MoM.
So I'd say it depends on the first chapters who is the new teacher.
That's a great point. I'm hoping this in a pattern, JKR doesn't have these kinds of coincidences.
Tonks could be a great DADA teacher, but she's too clumsy. DADA is important, you have to be careful of what you're doing.
sergorat January 1st, 2005, 7:25 pm Tonks could be a great DADA teacher, but she's too clumsy. DADA is important, you have to be careful of what you're doing.
Tonks is more Transfiguration than DADA. And I doubt that it will be an Auror because they have a lot to do with Voldemort. JRK said that the war finaly begins so each wand is needed. Maybe it's the one of the "old crowd", DD was talking about in GoF.
Sirius, I need you to set off at once. You are to alert Remus Lupin, Arabella Figg, Mundungus Fletcher - the old crowd.
Well, there were certainly more of the crowd.
enjoi January 1st, 2005, 7:49 pm I like the McClaggen theory... all of the points are true... however... if for every book she just had a new person... it'd be more like a circle and not like life, you know? It seems like she(JK) would just run off of a repititious system and it wouldn't seem too realistic...
If it's someone we know, my money's on Kingsley for the weirdest reason... I liked how he took on two death eaters at once
Briar Filth January 1st, 2005, 7:53 pm I like the McClaggen theory... all of the points are true... however... if for every book she just had a new person... it'd be more like a circle and not like life, you know? It seems like she(JK) would just run off of a repititious system and it wouldn't seem too realistic...
If it's someone we know, my money's on Kingsley for the weirdest reason... I liked how he took on two death eaters at once
I'm confused about the McClaggen theory. Who is this person? Is there a particular thread about McClaggen?
enjoi January 1st, 2005, 7:57 pm I'm confused about the McClaggen theory. Who is this person? Is there a particular thread about McClaggen?
Well... see.. I'm not sure the chronological order... but I'm pretty sure JK released a clip of HBP to the public. It was just like a sentence or two describing someone. Later I'm pretty sure she released that there will be a new character named McClaggen.
^ those might be mixed up, she might have released the name first.
But anyways, many people have thought that the descriptive name was actually describing the HBP and that it wasn't McClaggen. So, logically, if it's someone we don't know and we believe she has already given us a hint about the HBP, McClaggen is someone different, and some believe he is the new DADA teacher
popping corn January 1st, 2005, 8:13 pm alot of ppl are saying maybe tonks or kingsley but i dont think it will be them because as sirius (i think) said we need spies in the ministry.
Briar Filth January 1st, 2005, 8:23 pm Well... see.. I'm not sure the chronological order... but I'm pretty sure JK released a clip of HBP to the public. It was just like a sentence or two describing someone. Later I'm pretty sure she released that there will be a new character named McClaggen.
^ those might be mixed up, she might have released the name first.
But anyways, many people have thought that the descriptive name was actually describing the HBP and that it wasn't McClaggen. So, logically, if it's someone we don't know and we believe she has already given us a hint about the HBP, McClaggen is someone different, and some believe he is the new DADA teacher
Ah, now I seeeeeee..... Okies, thanks!! :)
mynameisrene January 1st, 2005, 9:01 pm I wish it could be Lupin again, but that's doubtful now that everyone knows he's a werewolf.
sergorat January 1st, 2005, 9:14 pm alot of ppl are saying maybe tonks or kingsley but i dont think it will be them because as sirius (i think) said we need spies in the ministry.
There is no need to spy people out, because now everybody knows that Voldemort is back and they get a new Minster.
Creatively Evil January 2nd, 2005, 12:12 am Tonks is more Transfiguration than DADA.
Because she's a Metamorphmagus?
RedHeadMama January 2nd, 2005, 3:47 am Well I don't think it will be Snape, Dumbledore knows that Snape is a double agent, in theory Voldy doesn't. If Snape got the job Voldy would want him to train kids in the Dark Arts or if they don't seem likly to turn the teach them inncorrectly so they are not well armed.
Sadly my beloved Remus Lupin will not be a Professor again. At least not while Harry is still at school. There is just to much predujust.
Although Tonks is a good idea, I think that Dumbledore will find her dutys to the Order more importent. Although Dumbledore is now admitting how badly Snape and Harry don't like each other. So maybe he will want Tonks there so Harry has someone else he can and will go to.
So in the end I said it will either be Tonks or someone new.
DocHollidaywe January 2nd, 2005, 7:30 am Tonks: I do not think it will be Tonks for 1 reason. She just recently became an Auror. This is a process that took a long time. It would be foolish for her to waste so many years in training to teach.
Snape: I usually just pass this off as "not happening" but then I stared thinking- Whats the one class that can keep Harry from top grades in Newts -- Potions of course! And why is potions so tough? Snape of course! Remember Harry said during OWLS that Potions was not to bad without Snape there. So perhaps Snape will be DADA and the new Potion master will help Harry excell in Potions. The only downside to this is - This would destory the 1 year DADA teacher that we have all grown use to. So I think that it is more likely that Snape will become DADA teacher at begining of Book 7 and stay in that postion thus breaking the chain (but Harry and co will not have the same teacher 2 years in a row)
New Character: Well this has certainly been the case in every other book so it seems more than possible!
Kingsley Shakebolt: An amazing Auror, very experienced and could teach them ALOT! However I think he is to vital to the Order as an active member (he is such a good dueler!) So it would be unwise and hard to take him off active duty!
Lupin: This would be cool of course, but would 1) cause an uproar with parents and more than anything 2) break the new DADA teacher trend
Aurthur: Perhaps Arthur will leave the Ministry (perhaps a 1 year leave) and plan on going back after teaching 1 year (special favor to DD, like Moody planned on staying 1 year
So after all of this my bet is on a new Character.
sergorat January 2nd, 2005, 11:30 am Aurthur: Perhaps Arthur will leave the Ministry (perhaps a 1 year leave) and plan on going back after teaching 1 year (special favor to DD, like Moody planned on staying 1 year
Idoubt that he'll theach Ron and Ginny. In Austria it's forbidden that a father is the teacher of his children.
Because she's a Metamorphmagus?
Yes, I think she knows more about Tranfiguartion because she's a Metamorphagus. But she told Harry in OotP that she nearly failed some tests. What subject was that?
murmure January 2nd, 2005, 1:12 pm In Austria it's forbidden that a father is the teacher of his children. Weird thing! It isn't forbidden in France and I don't think it is in GB either. Molly or Arthur would be great Dada teachers but i doubt it will be one of them, they have enough to do with the order and until now the dada teacher has always been someone new.
sergorat January 2nd, 2005, 1:16 pm Weird thing! It isn't forbidden in France and I don't think it is in GB either. Molly or Arthur would be great Dada teachers but i doubt it will be one of them, they have enough to do with the order and until now the dada teacher has always been someone new.
Why is that weird? It's good, because the parents would favour their children.
Creatively Evil January 2nd, 2005, 4:52 pm Yes, I think she knows more about Tranfiguartion because she's a Metamorphagus. But she told Harry in OotP that she nearly failed some tests. What subject was that?
Stealth and tracking.
Have we gotten any proof that Arthur is good at DADA or dueling? If he were a teacher he'd probably be teaching Muggle Studies.
ginny88 January 2nd, 2005, 6:04 pm It would be a new character like in the previous books, someone in the Order perhaps that we still haven't met.
Or what if for a change, DD will now give in to Snape's desire to be DADA professor?
sergorat January 2nd, 2005, 6:35 pm Or what if for a change, DD will now give in to Snape's desire to be DADA professor?
The "tradition" is that the DADA teacher leaves us after one year. So there wouldn't be a Snape in the seventh. :upset:
Briar Filth January 2nd, 2005, 6:38 pm The "tradition" is that the DADA teacher leaves us after one year. So there wouldn't be a Snape in the seventh. :upset:
Well, JKR may break that tradition, you never know......
clkginny January 2nd, 2005, 7:34 pm I think the DADA teacher in book six will be a new character. I think that Snape could end up teaching it in book 7. That would make more sense from an escalating tension stand point. Especially if JK wants to continue the new DADA teacher every year.
Angeltiger121 January 2nd, 2005, 7:42 pm I really think Molly would be an okay DADA teacher, (I poster earlyer it the tread too, nice to see you're all argue-ing on my part :).
I think I may have been the person who started the Molly For DADA teacher idea.
oh, yeah, I was post #326.
HedwigOwl January 2nd, 2005, 9:50 pm Found this on a transcript of a JRK online chat with fans in 2000:
Is there ever going to be female Defense Against The Dark Arts teacher?
Emily, I can exclusively reveal (because I'm feeling guilty I'm not answering so many good questions) that there WILL be.
enjoi January 2nd, 2005, 10:04 pm Well, JKR may break that tradition, you never know......
Haha yea, that's the advantage to a seven book series. You can get the readers into a pattern and then *WHAM* they're like "whaaa that's not very routinely..."
I have sympathy for Snape and would like to see him actually get his wish
Found this on a transcript of a JRK online chat with fans in 2000:
Is there ever going to be female Defense Against The Dark Arts teacher?
Emily, I can exclusively reveal (because I'm feeling guilty I'm not answering so many good questions) that there WILL be.
I have a feeling she was referring to Umbridge, since OOTP was not yet released
Snidget66 January 2nd, 2005, 10:25 pm It's either someone completely new or someone we've heard of just in passing.
HedwigOwl January 2nd, 2005, 10:25 pm I have a feeling she was referring to Umbridge, since OOTP was not yet released
Good point. I should have caught that, but I was on the shipping thread and that always addles my brain. :rotfl:
Somnombulist January 3rd, 2005, 3:58 am I think Dubmledore will call on his Brother Aberforth, some think he is the bartender at the hogs head
emmawoodhouse January 4th, 2005, 3:47 am I read an article that talked about how each HP book carried with it a certain theme and that the theme itself could be found in the choice of DADA teacher for that year.
The major theme of SS is power, and Quirrell lusts after power to the point of corruption. In COS, the theme is identity, and DADA was Lockhart, need we say more? POA is about emotions, and Lupin teaches Harry about patronus and boggarts, all emotion based magic. In GOF, pride was the theme. Crouch's pride led him to seek Voldemort's approval and to be proud of his part in retoring Voldemort to power. OOTP was centered on the truth, trust, and knowledge. Umbridge is untrustworthy, went to great lengths to suppress knowledge through decrees and censorship, and is described as poisoned honey.
So, I went through all of that to make my own predictions on Book 6 DADA teachers. If the theory is correct, then Book 6 DADA would follow suit. Perhaps Snape will be the DADA professor. A theme of revenge could certainly follow this choice and pattern. Or perhaps the half-blood prince will be the DADA. A theme of accepting one's destiny and purpose according to birth and choices could be utilized with this choice.
(please note that the above ideas about Books 1 through 5 are not mine but come from the following site- http://hpprogs.blogspot.com/2003_06_08_hpprogs_archive.html#95449030 )
mimeboy16 January 4th, 2005, 4:58 am I think it will be someone knew and Snape will get it in Book 7 due to Dumbledore's sacrifice (death) for Harry in Book 6 and the new Headmaster/Headmistress (McGonnagoll???) will give Snape the job in 7
nivekllerttoc January 4th, 2005, 11:40 pm I DON'T think that Molly would be a good teacher. She's just not that strong of a witch, and she is too clouded by emotions. I think it has to be another male. I'm not saying my gender is superior, but it seems likely.
McKinnon02 January 5th, 2005, 12:00 am Well, we did strike out with the only female DADA teacher we have had. And JKR does seem to favor males in the role of DADA.
Molly had to consult a lockheart book to check on how to get rid of Doxies from curtains. And I doubt she'd be able to control her temper enough to teach the class properly. I don't think she has the requisite knowledge or teaching ability.
Lupin is out. The wizarding community would arrive at the school armed with wands, pitchforks and stakes if he were reinstated.
I don't think Snape will get the DADA job. He already got to teach the class once- and he clearly does much better teaching Potions than he does DADA. For one thing, he used the class period to skip the class several lessons ahead of what they had been learning, and in teaching that's a major no-no. He also used it for a personal vendetta against a co-worker. These two things count against him the strongest when it comes to getting the position, at least from a Headmaster's point of view. And he really has no experience when it comes to teaching the subject, except for that one class period. Even if Dumbledore dies, I doubt Snape will get the job. Especially if McGonagall takes over- which she did in book 2.
I think the best option at this point is to pull in anyone who has a reasonable amount of experience and knowledge when it comes to defending themselves against the dark arts, and who has experience teaching (or at least working with) teenagers. So who do I think will get the job?
Amos Diggory is looking good to me at this point. He had a teenage son of his own, works for the ministry in a defense capacity (was one of the 20 who apparated into the woods under the Dark Mark) and probably has the skill to show the kids what needs to be shown, if Cedric was any indicator for skills. He may be a bit biased against Harry, but my guess is he knows that Harry is his only hope of revenge against Voldemort- and therefore will want to teach him everything he can that might help him. (His wife might reign him in if he gets too out of line).
rupertfan123 January 5th, 2005, 1:06 am Okay,first time posting on this thread!Yay!Go me! :rotfl:
I personally hoped that Lupin would come back and teach again.It's possible because only Harry,Ron,and Hermione know he's a werewolf(with the exception of all the teachers of course).
MadMagic January 6th, 2005, 10:22 pm I highly doubt we will ever get a repeat DADA teacher, so I think Lupin is out.
I like the DADA teacher always being a new characters, so that's what I'm going with. It could be the person described in the excerpt that was on JK's website. But even if it is not, I think it will be a completely new character who will actually be able to teach competantly.
karz January 6th, 2005, 10:35 pm I think that the DADA teacher will be a new character that we may or may not have heard of before. Like all the previous teachers we'll probably meet them before the school year starts.(Apart from Lupin who was on the train). I think that Snape will teach DADA in book 7.
johnfire January 7th, 2005, 4:42 am ok this is a long shot but here goes. what about victor krum? he should be old enough now that he is out of school at drumstang, which we have been told is a school that actively teaches the dark arts. its headmaster is a former deatheater, who was very favorably disposed to krum in book 4. we know from book 4 that krum is not a bad guy, and may even be looking for an opportunity to go work for the "good guys" based on the his interaction with HRH in book 4. finally doesnt JKR say that he will figure in the later books? perhaps he is not the DADA in # 6, but maybe #7? also remember he tells hermione at one point that he really likes hogwarts..... and thats also where hermione is.....
Bloo January 7th, 2005, 4:52 am I dopn't know if this has been mentioned but.... isn't it a possibility that Snape might get the job?
McKinnon02 January 7th, 2005, 4:58 am Snape might. If the headmaster of the school overlooks what he did on the one day that he DID teach the class.
Creatively Evil January 7th, 2005, 3:55 pm Snape might. If the headmaster of the school overlooks what he did on the one day that he DID teach the class.
He didn't see any of that, did he? Snape used his day of teaching DADA to point out that Lupin is a werewolf. Even if Dumbledore did see that, he probably wouldn't put Snape in office. Lupin being a werewolf is a staff secret, Snape wasn't supposed to tell the students.
As for Molly, she's too emotional and not strong enough to a DADA teacher.
Carding January 7th, 2005, 4:36 pm Maybe Voldemort will send a Death Eater as a DADA teacher to teach everyone false/wrong/useless spells so that they won't be able to defend themselves in event of attack...
Giebfried January 7th, 2005, 4:43 pm I have 2 speculations, either it is a new character (who I believe is not a death eater/ministry hack) and I predict that it will be a woman as we need a good DADA teacher as a woman b/c of JKR's position on having the Magical World have FAR more gender equilty.
My second is that it is Snape, and of course this is a kiss of death for him as he'll be a marked man, I feel that book 6 may be his swan song and will be the time that Harry will learn all the truth about his parent's lives and how Snape became a death eater and why he came back. I think this may be the better alternative fo me as a reader.
sergorat January 7th, 2005, 4:58 pm I have 2 speculations, either it is a new character (who I believe is not a death eater/ministry hack) and I predict that it will be a woman as we need a good DADA teacher as a woman b/c of JKR's position on having the Magical World have FAR more gender equilty.
We had a woman in OotP, but that doesn't mean anything. We had four men before.
I think that it will be a new character, but we will know him before Harry enters Hogwarts.
First book: He met Quririel in the Leaky Cauldron
Second: He met Lockhart in Diagon Alley
Third: Lupin in the train
Fourth: Moody was topic by the Weasleys
Fifth: the toad in the Ministry of Magic
Sixth: My prediction Anyone we don't know yet, maybe Arabella Figg (Dumbledore mentioned her in GoF) or a new one
Seventh: My prediction Snape, his dreams becomes reality
sanika24 January 7th, 2005, 4:59 pm I think its the Lion Man that JKR described when the mysterious door opened on JKR's website.
It went like this:
(He) looked rather like an old lion. There were streaks of grey in his mane of tawny hair and his bushy eyebrows; he had keen yellowish eyes behind a pair of wire-rimmed spectacles and a certain rangy, loping grace even though he walked with a slight limp
ikuko January 7th, 2005, 5:13 pm Lion man does sound like a good candidate. It must be someone new (as in all previous books), a good person, perhaps a member of Ootp, and have a tragic secret. :p this way the pattern [always a new person]x[servant of LV; self-important fraud;good guy with a tragic secret] will not be broken. Oh, did I mention that in the last year DADA teacher is likely to be LV himself in disguise? :rotfl:
Alkamax January 7th, 2005, 5:51 pm Did not JKR say that a student would teach DADA one year? It seems as though I read this in one of the interviews.
nivekllerttoc January 7th, 2005, 5:51 pm Oh, did I mention that in the last year DADA teacher is likely to be LV himself in disguise?
Very, very close there.
Who thinks that the DADA professor will be:
a: A new person that we haven't seen
b: An old character
c: the lion man
Well?
sergorat January 7th, 2005, 6:01 pm Did not JKR say that a student would teach DADA one year? It seems as though I read this in one of the interviews.
Did she really say that?
The lion man is new, actually we haven't seen him really.
I think it's the lion man.
deej January 7th, 2005, 6:05 pm I think that whoever it is was the original DADA teacher from book two, but was removed because it was part of the storyline that JK removed from COS. I have read book two twice in the last 4 months, and lockhart just doesn't seem to fit her mold for the DADA teacher. Seems too much like a last minute fill in charachter. That being said, I don't know if the character was completely written out of book two, or is still a character we met in book two but played a lesser role (ie Arthur Weasley).
ikuko January 7th, 2005, 6:10 pm I think that whoever it is was the original DADA teacher from book two, but was removed because it was part of the storyline that JK removed from COS. I have read book two twice in the last 4 months, and lockhart just doesn't seem to fit her mold for the DADA teacher. Seems too much like a last minute fill in charachter. That being said, I don't know if the character was completely written out of book two, or is still a character we met in book two but played a lesser role (ie Arthur Weasley).
I do not think it necessary. It is quite possible that the DADA teacher is not directly connected with the "HBP" storyline, though surely they have to intersect in some points. The removal of entire storyline from the book must have involved cutting out some scenes and re-writing them, and the DADA teacher parts might be among those parts.
Hectate January 7th, 2005, 6:30 pm I think it will be an Order member, like Remus or Tonks. Or maybe Dumbledore will finally let Snape be the teacher. That could then allow Harry to be Potions, as I doubt he got an O on the potion O.W.L.
Creatively Evil January 7th, 2005, 7:40 pm Did she really say that?
That doesn't sound like her to give away something like that.. :shrug:
I don't think it's the Lion Man, does anyone know the excerts that JKR gave out before OotP was released? Were they important parts, or just small, insignificant things? She could give out the DADA teacher before the book was released, but she may not.
fairy_lightz January 7th, 2005, 9:05 pm well i dont think snape will get the job or maybe he does then starts to like harry more when he relises his talent in DADA or dumbledore himself
McKinnon02 January 7th, 2005, 11:33 pm He didn't see any of that, did he? Snape used his day of teaching DADA to point out that Lupin is a werewolf. Even if Dumbledore did see that, he probably wouldn't put Snape in office. Lupin being a werewolf is a staff secret, Snape wasn't supposed to tell the students.
As for Molly, she's too emotional and not strong enough to a DADA teacher.
I was operating here on the assumption that Hogwarts will have more than one headmaster during Harry's time there. If Dumbledore dies, and a new headmaster is instated, it is a possibility that Snape will become the DADA teacher.
Clare January 7th, 2005, 11:39 pm I don't think that Snape will get the Job. Its the thing that he tried to get it always but never will get it.
For the 6th year it maybe could be someone from the order of the phoenix. That would make sense for me.
brokenglasses January 8th, 2005, 12:02 am I don't think Snape will ever get the DADA job. He's too good at potions. And I believe it is his strict way that will make Harry better at it and become a auror. We don't know that he failed his O.W.L. and could still make it into Snape's class. I hope JKR introduces a new DADA teacher like the other books. I look forward to it everytime time they come out. Tonks maybe, that would cool. She'd be like the young teacher all the boys get a crush on. :evil:
Selene Sedai January 8th, 2005, 12:32 am If Dumbledore is too busy with the Order and his job as headmaster...maybe Aurthur Weasley? Or perhaps Minerva will take over two teaching posts....
Or maybe... erm... a Hogwarts ghost? :huh:
but whatever happened to the teacher who used to teach Care of magical creatures.. the one before Hagrid? Could she or he (don't remember witch) teach DADA?
runitsandrew January 8th, 2005, 12:46 am I don't think it'll be Snape. I think it'll be Lion Man or some totally new character.
Creatively Evil January 8th, 2005, 1:01 am I was operating here on the assumption that Hogwarts will have more than one headmaster during Harry's time there. If Dumbledore dies, and a new headmaster is instated, it is a possibility that Snape will become the DADA teacher.
Alrighty. Either way, if that did happen, then we'd still have to gain a teacher to teach Potions.
moonlite January 8th, 2005, 1:16 am but whatever happened to the teacher who used to teach Care of magical creatures.. the one before Hagrid? Could she or he (don't remember witch) teach DADA?
I don't quite think she'd be qualified enough...
sergorat January 8th, 2005, 9:52 pm but whatever happened to the teacher who used to teach Care of magical creatures.. the one before Hagrid? Could she or he (don't remember witch) teach DADA?
It was Professor Kettleburn, I think. He is too old and had enough, Dumbledore said in the PoA in the beginnnig.
faeryobsessive January 9th, 2005, 2:20 am My votes are for Bill Weasley or Tonks.
I would assume it would be someone from the order, because it would add an extra layer of safety to Hogwarts. They aren't getting in some new unknown teacher who could possibly be a minion of Voldemort.
Angeltiger121 January 9th, 2005, 2:25 am Maybe Voldemort will send a Death Eater as a DADA teacher to teach everyone false/wrong/useless spells so that they won't be able to defend themselves in event of attack...
Um... Didn't something like that already happen? Well, kinda, I dom't think I could Imagine Madeye-moody (or something like that) ever really explaining how to do the spells that well, he was probibly better at showing the class and then explaining it. (I haven't read GOF in awhile).
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