The New Gryffindor Quidditch Captain v2

Welcome to the second installment of discussion relating to the new Gryffindor Quidditch captain. The original thread can be found here (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=24626) for your reference. :)

Soo, who do you think will captain the team now that Angelina has left? Personally, I think it's going to be Harry (I don't think Ron will steal Harry's Quidditch Thunder), although there is a chance that a new character, or an outsider will captain the team.

Anyway, post your speculation here.

Katie is the captain

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I think Katie will be the Captain of the Quidditch team. She is the oldest remaining player on the team.

Here's my lineup of for HBP

Chasers - Katie, Ginny, New person

Beaters - Seamus is a possibility, Returning beaters

Seeker - Harry

Keeper - Ron.

With the whole will the captain let Ron stay thing, I think JKR was joking. Remember in OotP Ron wanted to quit the whole time, but Angelina wouldn't let him.

Why do everyone think that the Creevy's will be the new beaters? That doesn't make sense to me. They are both very small and unless they put on huge growth spurts this summer, I don't think they'll work out. Besides other than as a fan neither has shown any interest in Quidditch. Also a player has never been replaced on the Quidditch team unless they left school or got kicked off by Umbridge. This would lead me to believe that the two guys who were beaters in OotP will also be in HBP.

The same goes for Dean Thomas. The only reason that I can see him being on the team next year is because of Ginny. With those two going out, he might try out for the team.


I tend to agree about Katie being captain. It seems unlikely the two beaters Andrew and Jack would have been 7th years in book 5 so they should be available. That leaves another chaser required, assuming Ron stays as goal, and Harry seeker, with Ginny trying for chaser. Dean hasn't shown any interest so far, but he could try out to join his girlfriend. Seamus would have been asked during book 5 as well. Alternatively another 5th or 4th year might take an interest.

katie for book six, then harry in the 7th... but then something will happen to harry, either injury or being kidnapped by the DEs, so then ron will assume the role...

I think Harry it would make sense to have a new chaptain for 2 years insted of 1 as it wont disrupt the team as much

I think Harry will be the new captain. Katie isn't in the team longer than Harry (Harry is in the team since PS/SS ) and Harry is a really good player+a leader.
It will be unfair if they don't make him the new captain. :sad:

I have to agree, I think Katie Bell (being the oldest on the team) will get the captainship for Book 6, with either Ron or Harry taking over in Book 7 (my bet is Ron, as he's already made Prefect and I suspect he'll make Head Boy *crosses fingers for the Mirror from Book 1 to come true*)

I think Ginny is a shoein for one of the Chaser spots, and the other I think Seamus might try out for, which I think would be cool.

As for the Beaters, I would assume the two that replaced Fred and George will return, unless Katie bumps them down to the reserve team, but I'll bet they return.

I hope JRK keeps at it with the ammount of quidditch in her books, I would hate to have the ammount of quidditch we saw in the PoA movie, actually turn up in a book!

I belive it will be Harry for no other reason than he gets the spotlight so much :D He This will be his 6th year on the team and is credited with Gryfindors sucess in Quiditch and winning the house cup as result. So it make sense to make your MVP the team captain.

Harry and Katie have been on the team the same amount of time except for Harrys expulsion from the team last year. I think Katie will be captain in HBP not because she is better then Harry or because she older but her position on the team gives her a better sitiuanal awareness during games and practice then Harry. Harry as seeker must search for the snitch which requires significant amount of concentration and triing manage the team and seek would be difficult with out it hurting the team. Now I know Cedric was seeker and captain but the 2 matches we know about that he captained Huffelpuff was getting beaten badly and only a dementer attack saved them againt Griffendor. In closing Katie becomes the captain mainly by default.

P.S. I did consider Ron because as keeper he's in perfect postion to manage the game but he lacks seniority, natural leadership, and must of all consistent confidence in his own abilty.

I do think it would make a lot more sense if they'd get a Captain for two years instead of only one. Angelina was there for one year only, and so they are now forced to go through another change.

Wood was there for three years, and that was a good thing for the team. You had a captain who knew his players.

I believe Harry should be captain, as he would be the best choice. He is by far the best player around, and has shown his leadership(DA). As for tactics, there's always his team mate Ron who could help him ;)

That is, if Harry plays Quidditch at all...

Now I know Cedric was seeker and captain but the 2 matches we know about that he captained Huffelpuff was getting beaten badly and only a dementer attack saved them againt Griffendor. In closing Katie becomes the captain mainly by default.

Cedric didn't become captain until POA. Wood said Cedric had put together a strong side and he was really worried about how they would preform. I don't think Seekers could be bad captains because their looking for the Snitch.

I think that Katie will be the new captain. This will give Harry the disappointment yet again in not getting something he was expecting (i.e. prefect). His anger has been and I think will continue to be big in the books (however it may tone down a bit, considering the prophecy and all) and this could just add to it. He'll get it eventually though. (I hope!)

I think it will be Harry, especially after reading The North Tower's newest article (http://www.mugglenet.com/editorials/thenorthtower/nt29.shtml) on Quidditch. Harry will need to learn how to think ahead, strategize, and fight with his head instead of his heart if he is going to be successful against LV. DD and McG know this, and I think they will make him captain as a way to train him for the final battle.

Katie was a sub on the team in her first year, then made the first team when harry did, so she has been on the team longer, if only as a sub, so she will make captin, then Harry will become captin in his last year!! so theres my thoughts on the matter..

I think Harry has enough on his plate to prevent him from becoming captain. Quidditch for him is an escape, a release. To put him under that much pressure is just not fair to him -- if Dumbledore wouldn't ask him to submit to the pressure of being a prefect, would McGonagall ask him to submit to the pressure of being the team captain? Besides, what does he know about anything other than seeking?

I can see Katie Bell doing it. I can't see Ron, Ginny (yet) or the two beaters doing it. I see Harry clinging on to the little enjoyment he can get out of life.

Of course, his rights to play Quidditch have to be reinstated...

I think the captain is usually given to the oldest player, which I guess in this case would be Katie. However, I don't really think that she will be captain, which would make Harry the next option, since he is in the same year as Ron but he has been on the team 4 more years than Ron. They are Harry's Books, so I guess he should be captain. It would be a nice distraction from the other things going on in his life :p

Here is how I look at it. Harry is assertive, the best player around. Remeber in Book 1 wood said he was better than charlie already and charlie could have played for England. That is impressuve. Harry will not stand on the sidelines. He is a good leader who can teach well. And when his is leading he always tries to be very fair. Although im sure Katie is a fine chaser and leader she has already been willing to take lessons from harry as she did in the DA. She had no problem liostening to him. Harry has been on the team just as long as Katie xcept for the tear she was a reserve. Senority is a big part to choosing i think but skill and ability to lead will be far more imprtant. Harry will be captain. Heneeds this more than ever to get his mind off things. Since he isn't a prefect he will need something to take up his time so he doesn't just sit and think about the prophesy. Also he will then have it for two years in a row which will help the team. especially if he wins the cup. I just don't see Katie being the leader. She always seemed to be really quite

Unfortunately... I think Harry'll end up being the new captain. He's the better player of them all (youngest seeker in a CENtury!- ron). I'm just worried about whether there will BE school quidditch next year. And whether Harry would be free enough to take the position. Katie seems to have more time on her hands... She's not off fighting Voldemort.

I think it will be Katie because she is older then Harry, and she does have seniority if you count the half season Harry was kicked off of the team. Also Harry is a good seeker but he really doesn't know much about the rest of the game. At the Quidditch World Cup he didn't even know what formations were being used. Harry isn't a very strategic thinker either, that has always been Ron's thing. I think Katie this year and then Ron in book 7. Ron knows a lot more about Quidditch then Harry does, and he is a lot better at coming up with strategies.

I'm sorry to do this, but Ginny and Dean aren't a sure thing (that kind of rhymed.....huh oh yeah). Ginny said she chose Dean in a vague way, that makes me believe she was joking just to get a rise out of Ron. If you want to see an interesting interpretation of Ron's likelihood of becoming captain than check out
Padfoot+Prongs=Potter and what it could mean?. I know I am plugging my own thread, but it was to wide ranging to be anything but it's own thread.

I posted in thread one but I don't remember who I said would be the captain so anyways.

I think it would be Katie if she is still attending Hogwarts for her final year. Of course I would laugh if Ginny becomes the new captain and Harry and Ron have to listen to her with possibility both or maybe just Ron quitting after all who likes listening to their younger sibling?

I've always thought Harry, he is so naturally talented at Quidditch and I think he'd be a good captain. I seriously doubt Ron will, not after only one year on the team. If Harry doesn't get it this year, I reckon he will in 7th year (unless he is HB and they feel like giving Ron something).

I think it's going to be Katie Bell, she'd be a seventh-year as of HBP and it seems to make sense somehow. She and Harry are the two people who will be left over from Oliver Wood's heyday, it'll be better if one of them is made captain, and since the position seems to (as per what I've seen so far) go to the seniormost person on the team, Katie will be captain since she's been on the team as long as Harry (barring the time he got banned). Also, she's worked with all the new entries to the team- Kirke and Sloper, who I think will be staying on, Ginny- she'd be best equipped to tutor her in Chaser tactics if she does try out and get on the team, and Ron (Harry'd played only one game with him in it, Katie's had three).
If Harry does become Quidditch Captain, it won't be till his seventh year. That's what I think.

Do you really think the new beaters will stay on, they were hopeless. With luck someone else will take an interest and join up to replace them, and they'll be actualy almost good.

Here's something interesting.

Scholastic Online Chat Transcript
In your first book there is a secret message on the Mirror of Erised. Are there any other secret messages throughout the book that we should be watching for?
Not secret messages of that type, but if you read carefully, you'll get hints about what's coming. And that's all I'm saying!

Make of it what you will.

I think that neither Ron nor Harry will be captain next year, Katie Bell has earned the nod, and I think that McGonagall in particular chooses those who arn't star players per se, but rather captains that have energy, enthusiasim and a personality that all can unite under.

Harry might be too much of a "name" to be captain.

I think however when Katie graduates in Book Seven, Ron will be Captain.

I think it's going to be Katie Bell, she'd be a seventh-year as of HBP and it seems to make sense somehow. She and Harry are the two people who will be left over from Oliver Wood's heyday, it'll be better if one of them is made captain, and since the position seems to (as per what I've seen so far) go to the seniormost person on the team, Katie will be captain since she's been on the team as long as Harry (barring the time he got banned). Also, she's worked with all the new entries to the team- Kirke and Sloper, who I think will be staying on, Ginny- she'd be best equipped to tutor her in Chaser tactics if she does try out and get on the team, and Ron (Harry'd played only one game with him in it, Katie's had three).
If Harry does become Quidditch Captain, it won't be till his seventh year. That's what I think.
Bringing up the point about katie working with all the new kids is pretty good. MAybe that will be the deciding factor. Maybe harry will be and he will let ron help himalot so he doesn't get left out. I just can't see someone captain after one year on the team

I think it will be someone in 6th year..if its a 7th year than we have to pick a nrew captain in book 7 so it seems easier to make it either harry or ron and since ron is so new to the team my vote goes to harry

Definitely either Harry or Katie. I think they would both make really good captains. Katie's got the disadvantage of only having one year left, and Harry's got the disadvantage of being too busy with Voldemort stuff. But where it goes from there, I have no idea. =P My gut feeling is that it will go to Harry, but I think Katie's a strong possibility.

I know that not that many people really consider Ron as a possibility anyway, but JKR pretty much said in the World Book Day chat that Ron wouldn't be captain (at least not in HBP):

bibwhang: Will Ron ever get on the Gryffindor quidditch team?
JK Rowling replies -> Well, he's already there! The question is, whether the new Quidditch Captain will allow him to stay!

So...Harry or Katie...

I honestly hope that either Katie or Harry should be the captain.

If Katie will be the captain, then Harry should be the captain during his 7th year.
Unfortunately the boy is going to have so much to deal with that he might not have time for Quidditch!

As much as I like Ron, I don't want him to be the captain, ever. He really doesn't deserve it. It wouldn't be fair.

I don't know it sounds as though Ron did something quidditch goalies have never done in a match that is to stop every quaffle from getting through. That is a feet in itself because in the quidditch book I don't think it mentions any match where one side scores and the other ends the match with zero and that is from a professional stance not just a school match for the quidditch cup.

Ron did enough to help the team win the cup in the end.

I dont know what you mean about having too much to do...Voldemort might be back but i dont hink he will be fighting him every day of the school year? Ususally he comes at the end of the books which I think would leave all year open. Obviously he will be thinking and worrying about Voldemort but not to the extent it fills his every waking moment! Seems Harry will have plenty of time to worry about quidditch.

Katie was a sub on the team in her first year, then made the first team when harry did, so she has been on the team longer, if only as a sub, so she will make captin, then Harry will become captin in his last year!! so theres my thoughts on the matter..
Where did this come from? First years are never permitted to try for a team, in ANY capacity. Harry waas the only exception in many years. Now, who would make a captain? Let's see... Captain is supposed to be a good leader... Harry. Captain must be a good, preferably a "natural" player... Harry. Captain should have experience in the game... Harry or Katie. I know, many say that he did not grow with the game and therefore is supposed to know less about the theory, but come on, he is reading and talking about Quiddich almost his every waking moment. And if an active player in 5 years with earnest effort can not gain all the knowledge there is ton gain, what advantage will come from childish fantasies of being a famous player? Anyone here trained little kids in baseball? how much a peewee (who was born to a baseball fanatic father) knows about the real game or can be a captain of one? There is a huge difference between fan's knowledge of trivia of the game and the real field skill.

So, if the person/people making the decision are interested in Gryffindor performance in Quiddich, there can be only ONE candidate - Harry. But Katie MIGHT become a captain by default, if Harry can not play and /or be a captain by force-major circumstances, is injured, or the Umbridge's ban holds.

Unfortunately... I think Harry'll end up being the new captain. He's the better player of them all (youngest seeker in a CENtury!- ron). I'm just worried about whether there will BE school quidditch next year. And whether Harry would be free enough to take the position. Katie seems to have more time on her hands... She's not off fighting Voldemort.

There shouldn't be any reason for not having quidditch at Hogwarts in Book 6. In fact, it'll probably be one of the best things that the students can do in order to take their minds of the comming Second War.

Personally, I believe that there are both pros and cons for Katie and Harry both becoming captains. In Katie's instance, it is her last year at Hogwarts, she has been playing quidditch longer than Harry, and she doesn't have to worry as much about Voldemort. On the other hand, as other people have been saying, Katie does seem a lot more quiet and reserved than Harry, something you can't always have when you're in a leadership role.

In Harry's instance, he obviously has the confidence and leadership skills that Katie doesn't have, plus he is respected enough in the Gryffindor house that the team would actually listen to him and take to his advice. He is, after all, Harry Potter. But on the other side, he will probably worrying a great deal in the next two years about Voldemort. With the knowledge that he's the only one who can kill him, this can distract him from his Quidditch play, just as much as it can distract him from Voldemort.

On this subject, I'm dead even. Both Katie and Harry deserve to be the captain in their own ways.

I don't know why people think Harry shouldn't have any time for acting as Quidditch captain, he isn't really busy seeing he isn't a prefect and does not have to worry about nights long detentions with Umbridge anymore. Don't even know if the DA will continue next year.

I think they should finally credit Harry for what he has done for Hogwarts, the wizarding world and the other students and give him some sort of recognition. They didn't give him the prefect position while he clearly deserved it.

I say Ron should be captain. It is his dream after all, and he is very knowledgeable about quidditch despite only being keeper for one year. Harry shouldn't be because, given what their position entails, the seeker shouldn't be the captain. They just don't do enough within the actual game. Cedric was the captain of Hufflepuff and they sucked hard. And as for Kate Bell, give me a break. Has she even had any dialogue in the books?

I say Ron should be captain. It is his dream after all, and he is very knowledgeable about quidditch despite only being keeper for one year. Harry shouldn't be because, given what their position entails, the seeker shouldn't be the captain. They just don't do enough within the actual game. Cedric was the captain of Hufflepuff and they sucked hard. And as for Kate Bell, give me a break. Has she even had any dialogue in the books?
Hufflepuff sucks all the time but they did manage to win against Griffindor when Cedric was captain, yes due to circumstances but still a good victory. And you should earn being a captain not just because you dream about it.

Well, what has anyone else done to earn it? Harry got his face busted and Katie Bell's just been there longer.

Well, what has anyone else done to earn it? Harry got his face busted and Katie Bell's just been there longer. No, Katie has not been there longer, she started at the same time. And Harry is an exceptional seeker (aknowledged by an international player) and an outstanding leader. Gryffindor won every game since Harry joined, except that with dementors and when Harry was not participating. He studies theory as hard as practice, and works hard on the team. It was generally accepted that the Gryffindor quiddich cup was, to a large extend, Harry's achievement (yes, the last year too, it was the first win that has covered for Ron's problems, as much as Ginny's efforts). So, what does Ron have to show? ONE half-decent game to his name? It was Ginny who won, anyway.

I think Ginny will be the new QUidditch caption, shes good at more than one position, she is a good people person, and she is good with authority.

Ginny would make a great captain. She grew up with 6 brothers, she had to learn to be tough.
But she hasn't even been on the team for one year.

It will definitely be Harry or Katie. Or at least I hope so.

The captain has always been the most senior member of the team... by that criteria Ginny is most definately out... I don't think harry wants the job and besides for all we know Katie has 1 year on him because otherwise McGonagall & Wood would be looking for more than just a seeker which what was implied in SS/PS

Ron will get it seventh year, unless Harry keeps it. It tells us in the Mirror of Erised. Harry will get 6th year and get Ginny on the team... then Ginny will realize Harry likes her and ask him... lol, just my guess. From what you can tell there, I am a Harry/Ginny shipper, as well as Ron/Hermione.

Although... if Ron will get it, then it will be open cause Katie will be gone. Katie could be the captain... just a thought.

Ya, I agree that it won't be Harry he already has his hands full saving the world.
So going by the most senior team member I'd have to agree on Katie.

Very true.... as for the whole 7th year Ron thing... what does that matter... Harry saw himself with his parents in the mirror of erised... does that mean he'll be retunited with his family in book 7? The mirror shows his deepest desire not his future!

Yeah, but the whole Ron thing could be something that will show up in the future. He is wanting so much to be the Quidditch Captain. He feels left out cause all of his other older brothers... even Fred and George had something good while at school. Sure Ron was prefect... but he hated it. Of course he desired it... but it could come true.

True I could see Ron becoming Quiditch caption in his seventh year.

I don't think Ron will get the captiancy. He had really poor performance in year 5. True, his last game was good, but I think the rest of the season will count against him. And I don't think Harry will get it either. He's kind of new to the game and as a result his tactics wouldn't be as good as someone who grew up with it. Not that I don't want to see Harry as captain. But I think the most logical person will be Katie. Or maybe Alicia...what year is she? I'm not sure...

I believe Ron will be the new captain but not by choice. I remember JKR saying that whoever the new captain is going to be won't want Ron in the team. I think Ron won't want to remain in the team simply because of his nerves. And then if he was made captain, well I don't think Ron would be that good at pubic speaking, so I think he would rather leave the team.

The captain has always been the most senior member of the team... by that criteria Ginny is most definately out... I don't think harry wants the job and besides for all we know Katie has 1 year on him because otherwise McGonagall & Wood would be looking for more than just a seeker which what was implied in SS/PS
Actually, we do not know anything of the sort. If Katie was already on the team for a year by the time when Harry joined, then there are only 2 options:
1. she is in the same year as Angelina and leaving the school now (then she can not be a captain)
2. She is going in her year 7, but she started on Quiddich team in her very first year - it contradicts the statrement that Harry was the only one in the century who was playing in his first year.

Make your pick. The only way you can reconcile it is to assume that Katie startsed at the same time as Harry and JKR never needed to mention that. Then what is exactly the seniority we are talking about? an absolute time elapsed from the birth? what does it have to do with Quiddich?

but the statement that Harry is "kinda new to the game" :rotfl: :rotfl: He has 5 years on the house team (and no one EVER has more when starts as a captain: if you begin in your second year and become a captain in 7th - see, only 5, or no time to BE a captain). I do not understand when people say that the kids who grew with the game know it better - show me a devoted sports fan-coach potato who qualify for a team captain? No matter how long they have watched the games? Knowledge of the trivia does not make one a leader or a sportsman.

But absolutely the worst is the pity vote. Ickle Ronnickle wanted to be a captain so bad! he even saw it in da mirror! Harry has enough attention, lets all feel sorry for poor Ron! Harry EARNS his fame, every step of the way. Ron helps him, true. Ron is a loyal friend, and Harry may owe him his life. But that what makes Ron a good team member, not team leader! Besides, JKR said that a new captain may through Ron from the team, meaning that Ron is not going to be a captain this year and very little chance next year.

As to Harry not having enough time - I am not so sure. It appeares to me that the captains did not invest that much more time in training then other team members. I am not sure that it will make much difference.

As to Harry not having enough time - I am not so sure. It appeares to me that the captains did not invest that much more time in training then other team members. I am not sure that it will make much difference.

We do know that Woof spent a lot of extra time when he was leader. If I recall in COS he says something like,
I spent the whole summer designing a new quidditch plan, were going to train earlier, harder, and longer.

I am sure that Angelina also spent quite a bit of time coming up with new plays, practice schedules and that stuff. So to me being caption sounds like a pretty demanding job.

Come on, Harry spends every free moment reading or talking Quiddich anyway. So if he would do the same with some practical application in mind, what would change?

I believe Harry will be captain during sixth year and leave the position to Ron for seventh year. Harry will become HB in his seventh year, no doubt about it. He will be the leader Hogwarts need in a time of war that no other student can fullfill.

Ron doesn't really care about being a prefect (he hates it if you ask me) and HB (with even more resposibilities and a leadership role) sure he saw it in the mirror of erised but things change and he most likely will be much more happy with a position of Quidditch captain than being HB and with all due respect Ron being HB sounds rediculous to me. But anyway that's another point.

I think Ron will make the eventual captaincy, for two reasons. 1 the Keeper is usually the best person for captaincy simply because they can concentrate on giving directions to their team, while the rest have to focus on the game.
2 Ron is an excellent strategist (chess) and he is obsessed with quidditch so he'd probably know some excellent strategies. Yes he isn't a good leader personality wise, unlike Harry, but he does have all those other advantages.

Besides, Harry will be too busy with the war to worry about captaining the quidditch team.

#1. We know that often Captains are not Keepers (Cedric, Charlie). Or Keeper position would be known as a captain-track one. Which is silly. Keeper is pretty much a goalie and is the WORST position to guide the team because he is concentrating on the goal posts.

#2. Being a chess strategist is not a usfull experience for the fast sport like Quiddich. Interestingly, his strategic talents seem to be singularly limited to chess. He does not show ANY sign of them in any other area. He is definitely no strategist in every day life. I do not recall him ever reasoning like "if we do that, then this and that is likely to happen". How can we say chess will help him in quiddich, then?

#3. Let's face it, the main advantage Ron has (besides being a great person and a loyal friend, which has nothing to do with quiddich) is that he is a friend of Harry. And this is how he got on the team in the first place - other candidates performed better than him, but Angelina chose Ron because he was the mate of her star player and she thought that it will help to have a better knitted team.

#4. For goodness sake, enough with the pity votes and mistaken fairness toward Ron. Griffindor team deserves the best captain it can get, and that is undoubtfully Harry. If, for some reason, Harry can not be a captain (banned, injured, too busy with LV issues) then seek someone with better authority then Ron. Katie will do for the next year as she IS playing as long as Harry (plust the 2 games he missed in OotP). Ginny ain't a bad candidate aither. But Ron? jee. He can not even muster enough authority to be a prefect, or enough confidence to be an ordinary team player!

Hmm, I dunno, Ginny'd be good, she's not exactly the best they've got but she's good, I'm just wondering that if she's the long term captain that people aren't going to pay attention top her, like Ron for example, he'll just think that he's her brother and that he'll get off lightly and so on. Ron's a no, purley because he's a case of James at times, gets a tad big headed, so may just tantalise somone it's better not to, if you see my meaning.

#1. We know that often Captains are not Keepers (Cedric, Charlie). Or Keeper position would be known as a captain-track one. Which is silly. Keeper is pretty much a goalie and is the WORST position to guide the team because he is concentrating on the goal posts.good point, But Wood was a keeper.

So? Wood was a charismatic leader and a great player, so he could overcome the disadvantages of his position. I never said that ANY position is excluding a possibility of being a captain. Just that Keeper and Seeker are not the best ones since theit attention is not on their team-mates. But we know a good captain-keeper, and couple of captains-Seekers. What I meant was that Ron's position on the team is irrelevant for his chances of becoming a captain. They are as close to zero as ever :D

Ah, ok. Well i don't think Ron will become captain either. At least not next year.

I've already posted my position on this thread and I believe Ron will become Quidditch Captain.

Why?

Reason 1 (The Tactician):
Well, Ron is good at strategy and tactics and a decent amount of the 6 and 7th years know this, by the fact that DD publicized it at the end of PS/SS. So, the teachers know Ron is talented there.

Reason 2 (The Keeper's Advantage):
Ron is on the Quidditch team and has the position of Keeper. The Keeper, to me, just seems like the most capable of directing the team and getting messages to the referee. It is also the position that gets attacked the least, because the Captain doesn't have the Quaffle that much and therefore doesn't get attacked as often.

Reason 3 (The Rivalry):
Due to the huge possibility that Draco will take the Captaincy for Slytherin, then what would make sense more if Harry or Ron took over the Captaincy. There needs to be a balance in the rivalries. Flint v. Wood, Johnson v. Montague, and Harry or Ron v. Draco.

Reason 4 (The Key Figures):
Ron was on the team for the whole year before and improved to the point that he most likely defended the hoops so much that only one Quaffle got in the hoops in the final match for Gryffindor. Thus proving that he is in fact very good. I think that he has proved himself to a lot of people. For Harry he seriously violated the normal level of conduct after a game and that, I think, will count against him. Plus, I don't think Harry wants the position, he probably would rather have Ron get it.

Reason 5 (The Mirror Foreshadowing):
I think that Ron will get everything that he saw in the Mirror and Harry (at least in a way) will too. Ron fights to be recognized and Harry fights for people who will show that they love him.

Reason 6 (The JKR Foreshadowing):
bibwhang: Will Ron ever get on the Gryffindor quidditch team?
JK Rowling replies -> Well, he's already there! The question is, whether the new Quidditch Captain will allow him to stay!

By looking at all of the players, only Ron wanted him off the team. Most of the rest of the team were very patient of Ron's horrible playing and Ron was the only one who wanted to be off the team. Now that the Twins aren't around and Ron has obtained his new found confidence, I think that the only one to hold him back at all is him.

All in all, I think that Ron will becoming the Quidditch captain.

There is a fair possibility that Harry could be the quidditch captain, but I think Ron is a more likely choice. It would be good to see him getting some extra responsibility (and the credit that would come with it). He has a keen mind and a good team spirit and a huge interest in Quidditch. Also he would have to mature even more for that kind of a role, and that would be great :D. After all, he has shown that he is more than capable on the pitch and also holds the same position as Wood did...

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There shouldn't be any reason for not having quidditch at Hogwarts in Book 6. In fact, it'll probably be one of the best things that the students can do in order to take their minds of the comming Second War."

I seem to remember several times when Quidditch was suspended from the school.

1. There was a basilisk running around, petrifying people.
2. Sirius Black was on the loose.
3. Triwizard Tournament.

Three books where quidditch was either suspended completely or partly from the books, for all teams.

I'd say that with the second war starting, there's a very good chance quidditch will be cancelled. Again.

I've already posted my position on this thread and I believe Ron will become Quidditch Captain.

Reason 6 (The JKR Foreshadowing):
bibwhang: Will Ron ever get on the Gryffindor quidditch team?
JK Rowling replies -> Well, he's already there! The question is, whether the new Quidditch Captain will allow him to stay!

By looking at all of the players, only Ron wanted him off the team. Most of the rest of the team were very patient of Ron's horrible playing and Ron was the only one who wanted to be off the team. Now that the Twins aren't around and Ron has obtained his new found confidence, I think that the only one to hold him back at all is him.

All in all, I think that Ron will becoming the Quidditch captain.

Reason 6 is one major reason against Ron becoming captain, you can twist that comment all around but making it a pro for ron becoming captain is stretching it an afwul lot imo. It could just mean that he will be playing badly the first few training sessions matches and the captain (Katie or Harry most likely will have to decide to let him stay).

Besides Quidditch captain after one good game seems not very plausable to me. He will become quidditch captain in 7th I think, one more year of experience and growing up will do him good.

Harry or Katie in 6th, Ron in 7th so that Harry can be HB, everybody happy! ;)

I've already posted my position on this thread and I believe Ron will become Quidditch Captain.
It is great that you already posted, but have you read any of the posts by other people? Because most of your arguments were already brought up, discussed and mostly counteracted. BTW, giving your arguments titles does not make them any more convincing.

Reason 1 (The Tactician):
Well, Ron is good at strategy and tactics and a decent amount of the 6 and 7th years know this, by the fact that DD publicized it at the end of PS/SS. So, the teachers know Ron is talented there.Actually, Ron is showing his strategic talents exclusively in chess. In real life he has no sign of being able to calculate any concequences of his (or anyone else) actions. And teachers know it.
Reason 2 (The Keeper's Advantage):
Ron is on the Quidditch team and has the position of Keeper. The Keeper, to me, just seems like the most capable of directing the team and getting messages to the referee. It is also the position that gets attacked the least, because the Captain doesn't have the Quaffle that much and therefore doesn't get attacked as often.Again, was discussed. Keeper must watch the goal posts, not his team, so the keeper position, as well as seeker, are not the best ones for a captain; however, a good leader can overcome this. Too bad Ron is no leader.

Reason 3 (The Rivalry):
Due to the huge possibility that Draco will take the Captaincy for Slytherin, then what would make sense more if Harry or Ron took over the Captaincy. There needs to be a balance in the rivalries. Flint v. Wood, Johnson v. Montague, and Harry or Ron v. Draco.So, as Harry is the main antagonist for Draco, HE has to become a captain? LOL. Too weak an argument, anyway.

Reason 4 (The Key Figures):
Ron was on the team for the whole year before and improved to the point that he most likely defended the hoops so much that only one Quaffle got in the hoops in the final match for Gryffindor. Thus proving that he is in fact very good. I think that he has proved himself to a lot of people. For Harry he seriously violated the normal level of conduct after a game and that, I think, will count against him. Plus, I don't think Harry wants the position, he probably would rather have Ron get it.It proves that he can play. When he does not have his nerves, that is. Harry did not violate anything, kids fight all the time, and the punishment he recieved was unjust. Even Snape did not consider fighting as big of a deal, and only dedacted points. Lets not twist the plot. If, for soem unknown reason, the rediculous ban would hold, then Harry would not be able to become a captain, true. Does not mean that Ron would automatically get it.

Look, it is keeper's JOB top protect the goal posts. That what they do. It might be impressive, but the enthusiasm of Griffindor after the victory was mainly due to Ron's performance being unexpected, and nothing more. He played well. So? It was Ginny who won. Number of points Ron saved was less than the number of points Ginny gained. Griffindor praised Ron's performans because he was not as bad as they thought.

Reason 5 (The Mirror Foreshadowing):
I think that Ron will get everything that he saw in the Mirror and Harry (at least in a way) will too. Ron fights to be recognized and Harry fights for people who will show that they love him.<sigh> How many times does JKR have to say the mirror predicts NOTHING?

Reason 6 (The JKR Foreshadowing):
bibwhang: Will Ron ever get on the Gryffindor quidditch team?
JK Rowling replies -> Well, he's already there! The question is, whether the new Quidditch Captain will allow him to stay!By looking at all of the players, only Ron wanted him off the team. Most of the rest of the team were very patient of Ron's horrible playing and Ron was the only one who wanted to be off the team. Now that the Twins aren't around and Ron has obtained his new found confidence, I think that the only one to hold him back at all is him.I can not make sense of this argument. Ron's stay on the team depends on the team captain. Therefore it will be NOT Ron. Case closed. Why try to stand JKR words on the head?

Who's actually left on the team from PS? I thought Ginny said something about Katy and Alicia leaving at the end of OOTP anyway...

It will problably Harry. I couldn't stand it if it was Ron with a the complaining he did in OOTF.

#3. Let's face it, the main advantage Ron has (besides being a great person and a loyal friend, which has nothing to do with quiddich) is that he is a friend of Harry. And this is how he got on the team in the first place - other candidates performed better than him, but Angelina chose Ron because he was the mate of her star player and she thought that it will help to have a better knitted team.

Well, that isn't the actual reason. Ron got on the team because he showed promise and wasn't going to be annoying, not because he was Harry's best mate.

It is great that you already posted, but have you read any of the posts by other people? Because most of your arguments were already brought up, discussed and mostly counteracted. BTW, giving your arguments titles does not make them any more convincing.

Actually, Ron is showing his strategic talents exclusively in chess. In real life he has no sign of being able to calculate any concequences of his (or anyone else) actions. And teachers know it.
Again, was discussed. Keeper must watch the goal posts, not his team, so the keeper position, as well as seeker, are not the best ones for a captain; however, a good leader can overcome this. Too bad Ron is no leader.

So, as Harry is the main antagonist for Draco, HE has to become a captain? LOL. Too weak an argument, anyway.

It proves that he can play. When he does not have his nerves, that is. Harry did not violate anything, kids fight all the time, and the punishment he recieved was unjust. Even Snape did not consider fighting as big of a deal, and only dedacted points. Lets not twist the plot. If, for soem unknown reason, the rediculous ban would hold, then Harry would not be able to become a captain, true. Does not mean that Ron would automatically get it.

Look, it is keeper's JOB top protect the goal posts. That what they do. It might be impressive, but the enthusiasm of Griffindor after the victory was mainly due to Ron's performance being unexpected, and nothing more. He played well. So? It was Ginny who won. Number of points Ron saved was less than the number of points Ginny gained. Griffindor praised Ron's performans because he was not as bad as they thought.

<sigh> How many times does JKR have to say the mirror predicts NOTHING?

I can not make sense of this argument. Ron's stay on the team depends on the team captain. Therefore it will be NOT Ron. Case closed. Why try to stand JKR words on the head?

1) Ummm... that was rude. So, I gave them titles. I posted my opinion and put the reasons, you don't have to agree, but being offensive about it isn't very reasonable.

2) Keeper is a great position. It is back where on ecan see the entire field, it is much easier to signal the referee since you don't have people flying around every second of the game. Yes, you aren't in the action as much, but in some ways that is a good thing. It is similar to a coach who actually participates in the game. Keepers aren't being assailled by Quaffles at every turn, Chasers are dealing with this much more (same with beaters, except it is with bludgers). Seekers are usually too busy with their own thing to be truly effective leaders. It is very much like being a chess player or the King piece.

3) I'm sorry if I believe it is more reasonable to put Harry or Ron as captain to counter Draco. It just makes sense that one of Draco's rivals is captain to go against him (I'm pretty sure everyone agrees that Draco is going to be the next Slytherin captain).

4) I never said anything about the ban holding, I think that it is over and we can expect Harry to be back as Gryffindor Seeker. I just think that Harry's actions and subsequent time off are going to hurt his chances.

5) You don't know this, Ginny's 150 could easily be equal or less than the number of goals Ron defended. I'd say that Ron allowing only 10 points in and Ginny pulling 150 more points is what made them win, not only the game, but also the cup. Btw, Ginny caught the snitch and yet Ron seemed to get more praise for only letting one goal in.

6) I remember reading somewhere that the mirror might hold something, in what the two boys saw, for the future.

7) It was an idea and something I saw as the only, in my opinion, logical explanation for that quote. Can you point me out one current team member who seemed like they wanted Ron off the team? If my memory serves me, Ron is the only person who said he should be off the team.

It's okay to disagree, but please try to be a little more respectful.

Ron will captian, no doubt

I haven't read this whole thread, but I really like the idea of Ginny being the new captain. She's definitely good enough, she's got the spunk to keep everybody in line and she won't have too much responsibility. Maybe it's just because she's my favorite character, but I really hope she gets it.

i think the team member with the most experience left is harry so it would probably be him if the ban is lifted and he still has interest in the sport or if quidditch is even going to be a main priority now at hogwarts

Keeper must watch the goal posts, not his team, so the keeper position, as well as seeker, are not the best ones for a captain; however, a good leader can overcome this. Too bad Ron is no leader.


Just because someone is captain doesn't mean they're always going to do a good job at it. My friend and fellow captain was the goalie for our soccer team; I was the striker. He wasn't the greatest, and he questioned himself denouncing his captaincy. This CAN happen to Ron as well; he may let his share go in and he'll start to question whether he really deserves the captaincy. Maybe Prof. McGonagall made the mistake of appointing him such, as some people are human and make mistakes. Maybe she just felt that this would give Ron some newfound confidence. This could all open up a subplot in the book where Ron needs to question himself and find his courage in order to be a leader. He's always said that Harry has gotten his share of fame, and now he should be able to get his chance. And if he succeeds, well, he should be able to see the field and tell his teammates what's going on, as ANY keeper in ANY sport can do.

Oh, and Lepre, I like your arguments, as 'weak' as perceived.

Just because someone is captain doesn't mean they're always going to do a good job at it. My friend and fellow captain was the goalie for our soccer team; I was the striker. He wasn't the greatest, and he questioned himself denouncing his captaincy. This CAN happen to Ron as well; he may let his share go in and he'll start to question whether he really deserves the captaincy. Maybe Prof. McGonagall made the mistake of appointing him such, as some people are human and make mistakes. Maybe she just felt that this would give Ron some newfound confidence. This could all open up a subplot in the book where Ron needs to question himself and find his courage in order to be a leader. He's always said that Harry has gotten his share of fame, and now he should be able to get his chance. And if he succeeds, well, he should be able to see the field and tell his teammates what's going on, as ANY keeper in ANY sport can do.
I don't think McGonagall would let Ron into the team to help his "self-esteem problem," mainly because he doesn't have one now that he won that last match. Besides, she wouldn't put an incompetent person in charge of the team. She want's Gryffindor to win, and that means gutting a good leader and Quidditch player in charge.

I don't think McGonagall would let Ron into the team to help his "self-esteem problem," mainly because he doesn't have one now that he won that last match. Besides, she wouldn't put an incompetent person in charge of the team. She want's Gryffindor to win, and that means gutting a good leader and Quidditch player in charge.

I believe that Ron's only struggle from being a complete Quidditch player was his confidence. From being such a die-hard fan of the sport, I would assume that he has all of the strategies down; it was just a matter of having confidence in his ability to do so. I don't think that he was incompetent at all. Now that he's found his ability, I'm pretty sure that he will become a better skilled player. But of course, that brings a bigger downfall, if he lets in a few by accident. Even if his team wins 260-40, he'll be questioning his SUPERB keeper skills and wonder why he made such mistakes. And that's where I believe he'll contemplate leaving the team, or dropping the captaincy or whatnot. I think his confidence in himself is easy to gain, but just as easy to lose.

I'm not saying he's an incompetent player, but I do think he's not a leader. Haven't you seen his performance as a Prefect? He's perfectly open with close friends, but he's kind of shy and reserved around others.

Shy and reserved?

"Yeah? Well unfortunately for you pal, I'm also a prefect! So unless you want detention, watch your mouth!" Ron to Seamus

"Here's an idea. Why don't you shut your mouth?" Ron to Zacharias

Our Ron is changing. That may have been the case in the earlier books, but he seems to be more vocal to everyone in particular. In any case, he would be leaders of his teammates, people he's practiced with and gotten to know as well, not strangers.

"Yeah? Well unfortunately for you pal, I'm also a prefect! So unless you want detention, watch your mouth!" Ron to Seamus

"Here's an idea. Why don't you shut your mouth?"

A, he knows Seamus very well; B, He was standing up for his best friend both times. Ron can get in a fight even if he's not a good leader.

So we agree that Ron isn't shy or reserved anymore?

Okay, I guess you're right. He's not shy or reserved. I was thinking more of the Ron in the earlier books. But I still don't think he's the best leader (at least not as good as Harry).

Well remember Dumbledore didn't make Harry prefect because he had enough going on at the moment. Harry probably is the better choice...but just like the whole prefect deal, Ron would get it. Ron may get it 6th year, and maybe Harry 7th. Or maybe both?

I tend to agree about Katie being captain. It seems unlikely the two beaters Andrew and Jack would have been 7th years in book 5 so they should be available. That leaves another chaser required, assuming Ron stays as goal, and Harry seeker, with Ginny trying for chaser. Dean hasn't shown any interest so far, but he could try out to join his girlfriend. Seamus would have been asked during book 5 as well. Alternatively another 5th or 4th year might take an interest.


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I think nobody here doubts Ron's strategic capabilities and ability to captain the quidditch team (it's only 7 players who know eachother pretty well anyway), it's more the fact that he is only playing on the team for a year and has only played well in his last match. It would be really weird if McGonagall would pass over Katie and Harry who played the game 4 more years and have proven themselves to be consistent over many seasons. It doesn't make sense to make him captain in 6th year. If Harry has not enough time for being quidditch captain, then Katie would be captain and like JKR said she has to decide to keep Ron on the team or drop him (see JKR quote in this thread).

I would love it to be Harry. He deserves it, he's a good leader and a great Quidditch player. However I think the next Captain will be Katie, she's been on the team longer and did have to have an interrupted season last season. But who knows Wood was made captain his fourth year so why not Harry in his sixth? Though I do kind of like the idea of Ron being one year and Harry the next, I don't think that will happen.

Just because someone is captain doesn't mean they're always going to do a good job at it. My friend and fellow captain was the goalie for our soccer team; I was the striker. He wasn't the greatest, and he questioned himself denouncing his captaincy. This CAN happen to Ron as well; he may let his share go in and he'll start to question whether he really deserves the captaincy. Maybe Prof. McGonagall made the mistake of appointing him such, as some people are human and make mistakes. Maybe she just felt that this would give Ron some newfound confidence. This could all open up a subplot in the book where Ron needs to question himself and find his courage in order to be a leader. He's always said that Harry has gotten his share of fame, and now he should be able to get his chance. And if he succeeds, well, he should be able to see the field and tell his teammates what's going on, as ANY keeper in ANY sport can do.

Oh, and Lepre, I like your arguments, as 'weak' as perceived.

Thank you, and for agreeing that Ron has a good chance.

To all those who say Harry has a lot over Ron. Yes, he may have 2 more years (and only 2, due to the cancellation of Quidditch in CoS and being off the team for 2/3 of OotP) than Ron, but Harry also has a few responsibility marks against him when it concerns Quidditch. This may hinder him, plus I seriously don't see Harry being that interested in being captain.

I think McGonagall will give the nod to Harry. He has confidence in his game, and he has proven himself an able leader since he entered the school as a first year, and a teacher in the DA in OoTP. He should be a shoo-in for the post.

Katie Bell will obviously get the nod, just as the previous Captain, she's a Chaser and able to get a more strategic feel than Harry of the situation from her position. In their 7th year, the Captaincy will either go to Harry or Ron. I personally feel Ron should get it, because of his strength in strategy and of course his position of Keeper.

Katie Bell will obviously get the nod, just as the previous Captain, she's a Chaser and able to get a more strategic feel than Harry of the situation from her position. In their 7th year, the Captaincy will either go to Harry or Ron. I personally feel Ron should get it, because of his strength in strategy and of course his position of Keeper.

I actually tend to think that the Chaser is one of the weaker positions to watch the whole game as opposed to the Keeper; the Chaser is a non stop chase for the quaffle; you're always in action. Seeker is as well; Beaters...that also applies to an extent. But the Keeper position arguably has the longest stretch of 'non-stress' time that s/he can view more efficiently.

With that said, my vote goes to Ron, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a 'shared' captaincy.

I think it depends on what Harry chooses to do will he allow Ginny to stay as the seeker she diden't so to bad in OoP, allowing himself to be a chaser, which if i'm not mistaken was his fathers position. Also, being a chaser would put him in a better position to lead the team.

On the other hand if he goes back to being the seeker I think that Katie will become that new Captain.

I think it depends on what Harry chooses to do will he allow Ginny to stay as the seeker she diden't so to bad in OoP, allowing himself to be a chaser, which if i'm not mistaken was his fathers position. Also, being a chaser would put him in a better position to lead the team.

On the other hand if he goes back to being the seeker I think that Katie will become that new Captain.
I don't think his teammates will let him play chaser, he's the youngest seeker in a century and probably one of the best ever in the history of Hogwarts. Even better than Charlie. Ginny is good but not as good as Harry and she prefers the chaser position anyway.

I think it depends on what Harry chooses to do will he allow Ginny to stay as the seeker she diden't so to bad in OoP, allowing himself to be a chaser, which if i'm not mistaken was his fathers position. Also, being a chaser would put him in a better position to lead the team.

On the other hand if he goes back to being the seeker I think that Katie will become that new Captain.




One. Charlie Weasley was both captain and seeker.

Two. It's Ginny not Harry who wants to become a chaser.

If you look at the books it becomes clear that neither Ron or Ginny will be captain. Both previous captains had been on the team for a few years before they were captains and only Harry and Katie Bell meet that requirement and with Katie being in her seventh year that probably is enough to give her the nod, although I think Harry should get it.

The thought just occurred to me that if either Ron or Harry get the captaincy (real word?) there could be possible friction and jealousy between them. What are your opinions on this? Would it cause friction if it happened? If so, what do you think may result? :D

Harry will get it... Ginny will want to stay on the team... so she becomes chaser... replaces Angelina... :D

I think Harry will get loads of other stuff to be going one with.

First we will probably get some privat lessons from dumbledore, and I don't think there isn't a possibility for harry to move on with da somehow (all those da members are far above the avarage of the other pupils).

I think Harry is asked to do it, but that he gives it to Ron: cause he knows ron likes that.

The thought just occurred to me that if either Ron or Harry get the captaincy (real word?) there could be possible friction and jealousy between them. What are your opinions on this? Would it cause friction if it happened? If so, what do you think may result? :D

I'm not sure that Ron would be jealous if Harry got it. Well, let me rephrase that... I don't think he'd be surprised and overtly bothered. Harry has been on the team since his first year, and is obviously more qualified to run the team than himself (Ron). However, I'm sure Ron might have a few nagging pangs thinking of how Harry seems to always be in the spotlight. I think if that's the case, that Ron will realize the thoughts are unreasonable and do his best not to show them. It's not as if they were both on the team since first year and Harry got it over him in that manner.

However, if Ron were to get the captaincy, I think we'd see Harry react much in the same manner as he did when Ron got the prefect's badge and he didn't. He'd feel betrayed and bad, yet realize Ron is his best friend and try to be happy for him. But, I'm sure it would hurt him and he'd feel more qualified than Ron is.

Just my thoughts. :)

I have seen many posts about what Ron saw in the mirror of Erised.. yes this could be foreshadowing... but not for book 6. Ron just got on the team... he wouldn't get the job as captain

i reckon harry won't get it for much the same reasons he didn;t get prefect......too much other stuff to do......would be interesting if he did though, no more da next book so it would be good to see that side of harrys personality develop.

Giving Harry the position as captain would give him leadership skills.. something he could use...

Harry for Quidditch Captain in Half Blood Prince!

IF there is quidditch in the sixth book, I hope that Harry gets it...whose been responsible for all the games that they've won? Harry.

I'm not sure that Ron would be jealous if Harry got it. Well, let me rephrase that... I don't think he'd be surprised and overtly bothered. Harry has been on the team since his first year, and is obviously more qualified to run the team than himself (Ron). However, I'm sure Ron might have a few nagging pangs thinking of how Harry seems to always be in the spotlight. I think if that's the case, that Ron will realize the thoughts are unreasonable and do his best not to show them. It's not as if they were both on the team since first year and Harry got it over him in that manner.

However, if Ron were to get the captaincy, I think we'd see Harry react much in the same manner as he did when Ron got the prefect's badge and he didn't. He'd feel betrayed and bad, yet realize Ron is his best friend and try to be happy for him. But, I'm sure it would hurt him and he'd feel more qualified than Ron is.

Just my thoughts. :)

That is exactly my opinion :D. Ron is now mature enough to be able to deal with those kind of feelings - he's had enough experience! Harry should also be further on in being able to deal with his own feelings by the time the new Quidditch captain is chosen, so there is no excuse for him either :).

If looked at from a sports perspective, a seeker would appear a bad choice for a captain. If part of the captain's job is directing the team during play, it would be very difficult to search for the snitch and direct play. For example, in American football the quarterback is automatically the offensive leader and in European football the keeper usually runs the defense and an offensive player (pun intended) :elaugh: runs the offense.
I believe Harry was yelled at by wood one time for watching the game instead of searching for the snitch.

However, if the captain's job is more of an honorary position or he/she directs practice and organizes the team, then Harry would do well. It would be a boon to direct practice since his job has little affect on team play.
Not saying Harry would be a good or bad captain, just saying his position as seeker may make it hard.

For Harry he seriously violated the normal level of conduct after a game and that, I think, will count against him. Plus, I don't think Harry wants the position, he probably would rather have Ron get it.

Actually, as we saw when Harry reacted to Ron's getting prefect over him, Harry is not so charitable in his feelings. I sincerely doubt he would want Ron to best him in Quidditch, which has always been Harry's domain. It would be travesty to give this to Ron, when Harry has seniority, is more assertive, and has more talent. It would seriously damage their friendship if Ron got the captaincy. While Harry and Ron are fairly equal as students, which Harry must acknowledge, they are not equal in merit as Quidditch players. Harry would not dismiss Ron's appointment as fair, because it would not be.

Reason 5 (The Mirror Foreshadowing):
I think that Ron will get everything that he saw in the Mirror and Harry (at least in a way) will too. Ron fights to be recognized and Harry fights for people who will show that they love him.

While this theory has literary merit, I don't care for it. It's not wrong to get whatever you want; however, I don't think Ron's desires should override all the blood, sweat, and tears that Harry has poured into the Gryffindor Quidditch team since his first year at Hogwarts.

Reason 6 (The JKR Foreshadowing):
bibwhang: Will Ron ever get on the Gryffindor quidditch team?
JK Rowling replies -> Well, he's already there! The question is, whether the new Quidditch Captain will allow him to stay!

At first this quote made me miserable, because if you can't tell already, I really don't think Ron deserves to be Quidditch Captain, and this quote makes it appear that he will be. But, as we saw at the end of OotP, when Ron was regaling Harry and Hermione with his success on the Quidditch field, Ron is HAPPY being on the team now. He is the Gryffindor's King. He's finally being recognized and getting the attention he has always craved, out of Harry's limelight. Now why on earth would Ron want to leave? His newfound success gave him confidence; Quidditch is finally loving him back.

Now the new captain wants him off the team?

That quote is still very difficult for me to surmount. Harry is fiercely loyal to Ron. What would make him want Ron to leave the team? I can't see it...

i don't beilieve it will go to harry or ron it will be katie in my opinion if she is still there. if not her then Ron Knowing What DD + McGonnagal(sorry bout spelling) are like and after the way he reacted to Malfoy in OoTP that wudn't help his captaincy chances would it?

Harry should be it, unless Dumbledore and McGonagal have extremely good reasons. He's a superb quidditch player, has been on the team for the longest, and is starting to show some strong leadership skills (think of the DA and the battle in the DoM).

yes but after what happened between harry + malfoy in OoTP im not so sure and i reckon it willbe ron unfortunately

Harry was definately provoked though...

I don't think it would have been as big of a deal if it wasn't for Umbridge as well.

but McGonnagall Did'nt want to hear about it did she?
And Knowing DumbleDore he thinks harry's got too much on his plate right now-sirius,Voldermort

but the same could be said for Ron as He is A preFect and some People ar Rumouring Him as Head Boy

Actually, as we saw when Harry reacted to Ron's getting prefect over him, Harry is not so charitable in his feelings. I sincerely doubt he would want Ron to best him in Quidditch, which has always been Harry's domain.
Effigial, I agree with you that if Ron got the Captaincy this year, it would seriously hurt their relationship. But I think seniority counts, and it will be Katie Bell. (Don't forget about her!) Don't worry about the JKR quote. With Harry having alot "to be going on with" and Ron the dismal player he's been for the most part, I seriously doubt that Dumbledore will appoint anyone except Katie.

As for seventh year, well, if Katie lets him continue, then Ron will have a shot at being captain then. But he'd have to prove himself worthy of it, because Harry's so good at it. He has one year to outshine Harry (as if)...we'll see.

Technically, besides years (Harry 6, Katie 7) They've played for the same amount of time, so would Katie really have seniority? Is it possible that they would be co-captains?

Technically, besides years (Harry 6, Katie 7) They've played for the same amount of time, so would Katie really have seniority? Is it possible that they would be co-captains?
:tu: Hadn't thought of that. Good thinking.

But I suppose if we want to be technical then Katie has still played longer, because Harry was suspended from Quidditch and Katie wasn't.

Technically, besides years (Harry 6, Katie 7) They've played for the same amount of time, so would Katie really have seniority?




Katie is a seventh year so that may give her the edge.

Katie is a seventh year so that may give her the edge.

Some have brought up that being in seventh year is to her disadvantage, because she'd be leaving after one year as captain. Oliver was an awesome captain, and at least some of that had to do with getting to know his players and being with them for several years. Harry could be captain for 2 years, giving the Gryffindor Quidditch team some stability.

Some have brought up that being in seventh year is to her disadvantage, because she'd be leaving after one year as captain. Oliver was an awesome captain, and at least some of that had to do with getting to know his players and being with them for several years. Harry could be captain for 2 years, giving the Gryffindor Quidditch team some stability.
Wasn't Angelina a seventh year in HP and the Order...?
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Wasn't Angelina a seventh year in HP and the Order...?
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You're right. But she was reminiscent of Oliver in terms of her leadership and drive, wasn't she? I think personality and assertiveness counts just as much (if not more) than year. I think Harry could have handled the position in his 5th year, except 1) Angelina had seniority so she got it; and 2) Harry's being Quidditch Captain would give him responsibilities like asking Umbridge to re-form the team and suffer extra angst once he was given his ban. I don't think that would have worked as well, story-wise, as Harry's just being the Seeker again.

Basically, I think Angelina earned her captaincy through merit as well as seniority.

You're right. But she was reminiscent of Oliver in terms of her leadership and drive, wasn't she? I think personality and assertiveness counts just as much (if not more) than year. I think Harry could have handled the position in his 5th year, except 1) Angelina had seniority so she got it; and 2) Harry's being Quidditch Captain would give him responsibilities like asking Umbridge to re-form the team and suffer extra angst once he was given his ban. I don't think that would have worked as well, story-wise, as Harry's just being the Seeker again.

Basically, I think Angelina earned her captaincy through merit as well as seniority.
Katie is the senior most member, as to Harry and it's advantages I don't disagree but don't you think Snape will object outright due to the fact Harry did assault Draco. We seem to forget that it won't be easy for Harry in year 6 and there's still no guarantee that Umbridges decrees will be lifted. Oh and me, I think Harry won't be allowed to be seeker anymore if he get's back, pry be a Chase like his dad, just an idea, get me ;)
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Katie is the senior most member, as to Harry and it's advantages I don't disagree but don't you think Snape will object outright due to the fact Harry did assault Draco. We seem to forget that it won't be easy for Harry in year 6 and there's still no guarantee that Umbridges decrees will be lifted. Oh and me, I think Harry won't be allowed to be seeker anymore if he get's back, pry be a Chase like his dad, just an idea, get me ;)
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I can't imagine why anyone wouldn't allow him to be Seeker again. Apparently Harry was better than Charlie Weasley, who could have played for England. Why would his team want him to be anything but Seeker? It's a nice thought, about playing in the same position as his father, but I can't see it happening in the story.

As for Snape's having anything to do with the Gryffindor Quidditch team, if Snape was involved at all, Harry wouldn't have been allowed to play in his first year! Or subsequently, because of how often Gryffindor beat Slytherin at Quidditch. Harry was punished enough in his fifth year for fighting with Draco. He'll be beack as Seeker, but who's captain is still up in the air.

As for Snape's having anything to do with the Gryffindor Quidditch team, if Snape was involved at all, Harry wouldn't have been allowed to play in his first year! Or subsequently, because of how often Gryffindor beat Slytherin at Quidditch.... He'll be beack as Seeker, but who's captain is still up in the air.





Nothing would get Harry the captaincy faster than Snape objecting to it! McGonagall would do it in a heartbeat just to throw it in Snivllus's face.

It Would Be Good If Harry Did
But He's Seeker So How Is He Meant To Captain A Team

It Would Be Good If Harry Did
But He's Seeker So How Is He Meant To Captain A Team



Once again Charlie Weasley was seeker. Charlie Weasley was captain.

i suppose but things do tend not to go harrys way
charlie seemed to be very very popular though

So's Harry, remember in PoA after they got beaten by Hufflepuff? Everyone on the team was in the Hospital Wing, now if that's not being popular then I don't know what is.

Popularity is probably not what makes the player the captain. The head of house chooses the Captain (I think). So it would be up to McGonagall, not a popular vote.

ok
thats not a very democratic way is it?
i think the house as a whole should choose!

Yeah, but it helps, I mean, let's face it, the only reason most people like Malfoy is beacuse his father WAS on the governers list and WAS well respected in the ministry.

yeh i suppose

Yeah, but it helps, I mean, let's face it, the only reason most people like Malfoy is beacuse his father WAS on the governers list and WAS well respected in the ministry.

And he was Snape's favorite boy, and he brought 7 Nimbus 2001s to the Slytherin team. That'd do it.

Back on topic: What qualifications does Katie have besides her year at Hogwarts (seniority)? She's not an outstanding character, we never hear too much about her. With Angelina, we know that Fred took her to the Yule Ball, and that Lee Jordan is always hitting on her in his announcements. Katie has never gotten such attention in the novels, has she? What do we know about her that would make her seem a likely choice for Captain?

Not alot, simply, to be honest there isn't really anyone left in Gryffindor who can actually say to McG that they'll be captain.

And he was Snape's favorite boy, and he brought 7 Nimbus 2001s to the Slytherin team. That'd do it.
exactly

i think the house as a whole should choose!

I think so too, but still:

Which is why I think Ron should get it-he would be better at teaching...(He would still play but have the job of coaching the rest) He would be great!!!

i think the house as a whole should choose!

I think so too, but still:

I think Ron should get it-he would be better at teaching...(He would still play but have the job of coaching the rest) He would be great!!!

Why do you think Ron would be better at teaching?

We saw in OotP that Harry is a very proficient and understanding teacher. He was wonderful in the DA, encouraging people and standing aside. His students made amazing progress. I can't remember a single time Ron has shown any inclination toward teaching.

I agree with effigial about Ron's teaching abilities. I don't know though... maybe he has some hidden talent. He didn't prove to be a very effective prefect though. He was a bit of a wimp when it came to Fred and George, and he never really showed any "prefect power" so to speak.
I strongly feel that Harry will be the next Quidditch captain. Even though Katie is the oldest, Harry is much more likely I think, just because he is more prominent of a figure, and probably more talented. I would also suspect that Dumbledore wants to make up for the previous year. Who chooses the captain anyway?

Me three. If you will Jordan please point to one canon example of Ron teaching anything.

Thinking more about it, I think it makes the most sense for Harry to be captain. As someone mentioned before, Harry being captain would give the team more continuity (2 years instead of just one.) Also, I think that Harry has been showing some really strong leadership ability- such as leading the DA and the battle at the Department of Mysteries. (I just looked up and saw that I had said that before, but I think it warrents a repeading :p )

I want Harry to be the captain because I think he deserves it, BUT.......

he was banned by Umbridge and I am not sure if that will still hold true since she is gone. McGonagall makes the decision and she may well pass Harry up because of the fighting that caused the ban in the first place. Although I think this would be VERY unfair, it could happen. I thought Harry would be prefect in book 5 and that didn't happen. Another reason I think Harry may not get to be captain is because I remember Jo saying something along the lines of not wanting to be in Harry's shoes because of what she has in store for him and that did not sound like anything fun!

Do you remember how much McGonagal hated Umbridge? She wouldn't keep Harry from playing quidditch or being captain due to anything Umbridge had said. And the fighting... well, Harry got enough punishment in his fifth year. So I don't think McGonagal would see a reason to punish him further. Plus, she has always REALLY wanted Gryffindor to win - and Harry's the best seeker at Hogwarts. I think Ginny will continue to play though, just in a different position.

Knowing JK's love of inserting surprises, I wouldn't be surprised if the Gryffindor Quidditch Captain ends up being someone you'd never, ever consider who holds a position on the team. (Ginny? Ron?)

But, she may make Harry the captain just because he holds the most experience and best teaching ability. (Side question- Was James ever Quidditch Captain?) I personally think that it's hard to see anyone but Harry being Quidditch Captain, he just seems to fit the title the best, it seems like he was born into it/destined for it.

Or, she may pull a fast one and yank Quidditch entirely because of the battle/war/fight with Voldemort, Harry and Co. just won't have time for Quidditch.

Who knows.

Katie for the sixth book and that is for sure... Harry for the seventh because he plays great rather than the others

Harry or Katie in 6th year, Katie is in NEWT year and possible candidate for HG. Harry has of course his own problems but quidditch always was his escape from reality. Worrying about Voldemort won't do him alot of good, the distraction of the captain responsibility will do him good. Ron won't be captin in 6th year JKR said it herself: "the new captain has to decide to let Ron stay on the team or not".

Ron in 7th year, I think Harry will be HB in 7th year and won't have the time to be quidditch captain too and will either pass on the quidditch captaincy to Ron or decline McG's offer. Ron will have an extra year of experience and if Harry were captain in 6th year he would probably be already closely involved in the quidditch captaincy, I mean Harry and Ron talk about it often.

I think it will be Harry in 6th year. Harry SHOULD of been Prefect and DD said as much. So i can see him being captian to make up for him not being Prefect.

One problem daz, DD don't choose the captain, McG does, and I doubt she lets DD get in the way.

Harry will definetly be named captain and heres why:

Whenever he has been "leading" people in "battle" he has always been a smash and run kind of fighter. No strategy whatsoever, and to beat Voldemort, he will have to have the ability to pause, stall for time, and make plans. This is where being the captain will come in. It's his next form of training that Dumbledore's "giving" him to prepare him for the big day.

Also, this is an interesting editorial that goes along wth this thread:

http://www.mugglenet.com/editorials/thenorthtower/nt29.shtml

True but its Dumbledores school at the end of the day. No matter what he would have to agree.

I think it should be Harry but I have a feeling it will be Ron.

I dont get why people say Ron.

He was lame and he had 1 good match. And he has only been on the team a year.

I dont get why people say Ron.

He was lame and he had 1 good match. And he has only been on the team a year.
He has strategic plans and things, and it would make Harry jealous.

True but its Dumbledores school at the end of the day. No matter what he would have to agree.
I agree I have a feeling he vetoed Harry's prefect position, I think Head of Houses decide those things but the headmaster has the final say.

Why Katie won't be captain
-she's not centeral to the plot of the stories
- she's never showen herself to be much of a leader
Why Ron won't be captain
- he's only played one year
-he gets nervous easily and loses all his stradegy
-he had one good game and the rest were awful
-he's not a leader
Why Harry will be captain
-He should have been it last year along with being a prefect
-Megonagal likes him and respects him
-Dumbledor owes him
-Needs something to get his mind off everything
-he's a natural leader

Personally, I would put Ginny as captain for no other reason than continuity. Wood had 3 years to work out his strategy and eventually win the cup. Harry and Ron would have 2, Katie 1. That leaves Ginny with 3 years to go on the team.

Also, she has a very sharp mind, and a sense for strategy and tactics (see OotP) and here drive to learn how to fly, plus sneaking into the shed and stealing each boy's broom in turn to practise flying shows innovation and creativity.

Ginny for Captain isn't a bad idea. She has the time and as mentioned the extra yr on top of both Ron and Harry. Plus I have the sneaking suspicion that Harry and Ron will be up to mischief so they may not be very good at organising practices and things like that. It would be fun to see Ginny boss around her big brother :D I wish I could do that.

Will Slytherine I think its pretty obvious that Draco will score the spot as Capt and i also think that everyone knows EXACTLY why ;)

Why Katie won't be captain
-she's not centeral to the plot of the stories
- she's never showen herself to be much of a leader
Why Ron won't be captain
- he's only played one year
-he gets nervous easily and loses all his stradegy
-he had one good game and the rest were awful
-he's not a leader
Why Harry will be captain
-He should have been it last year along with being a prefect
-Megonagal likes him and respects him
-Dumbledor owes him
-Needs something to get his mind off everything
-he's a natural leader
on why Katie won't-
Angelina didn't show being a natural leader, she was/is a background character and Angelina still got captain.
Also keep in mind- Katie is the team veteran, been on the team longest (one would assume at least a year longer then harry as she was already flying and such when he came to practice and she is I believe 2 years above him but atleast 1)
I agree that Ron, will not be captain, but I do not agree with your reasoning. The only reason I think he will not be captain is because he is still a newbie, only been on the team one year. He got nervous in his 1st 2 or 3 games. The last game he did excellent. He did not screw up again after the last game, so one would expect that now he has confidence he will continue to be good.
And with Harry-
Dumbledore does not "owe" him. Dumbledore was not supposed to pick harry for prefect. I thought he would seeing as he is Dumbledore's favorite boy (to quote malfoy)
but dumbledore thought harry had enough responsibility to get on with. And Harry was not upset about not being prefect after that. Quidditch captain would be an added responsibility and harry should not get his mind off of everything. If Harry is QC (quidditch captain) then it will not be to take his mind off of his responsibilities IMO, he will have even more on his plate. Trying to defeat Lord Voldemort, coping with Sirius's death. Forgetting is not a good thing. Accepting the death is a good thing, but trying to forget about Sirius and his noble passage to the world of death would not be a good thing.
Also- here is another reason harry would not be captain- he was not on the team last year for the majority of the year. He will have just gotten back on, is it really fair to Katie to have Harry, who was just let back on, who is younger then her, to become captain?
I think Katie when you only take into account books
but with JKR's quote about Quidditch captain allowing him [ron] to stay I see- Harry (as it would make an ok subplot to have slight conflict)or I see Katie- like if someone better tryed out.

on why Katie won't-
Angelina didn't show being a natural leader, she was/is a background character and Angelina still got captain.
Also keep in mind- Katie is the team veteran, been on the team longest (one would assume at least a year longer then harry as she was already flying and such when he came to practice and she is I believe 2 years above him but atleast 1).I agree with the first part, but not the second. Katie can not be on the team any longer than Harry. Harry was the only one to join the team in his first year. So, either Katie joined in her second year and is on the team as long as Harry, or she is out of school already. There just isnt time for her to be both - longer than Harry on the team AND still in school.

I agree with the first part, but not the second. Katie can not be on the team any longer than Harry. Harry was the only one to join the team in his first year. So, either Katie joined in her second year and is on the team as long as Harry, or she is out of school already. There just isnt time for her to be both - longer than Harry on the team AND still in school.
I thought Katie was 2 years above harry
so now she could be in her 7th year
and joined the team in 2nd, so that would be 6 years
and even if she is only a year older then harry- she was on the team for almost a season longer then harry-in the 5th book

I'm torn in the whether or not Harry or Katie will be the new captain. I can see where both would make sense. Harry because he's good and it'll give some stability for the next two years of having the same person lead. Then there is Katie because she's the oldest person on the team. I can also see Dumbledore not wanting Harry as captain, just like he wasn't made Prefect. Although maybe both of them will be made co-captains that way Katie can continue to lead in case Harry gets himself in trouble or in the hospital wing, not that he would do anything like that :p

I thought Katie was 2 years above harry
so now she could be in her 7th year
and joined the team in 2nd, so that would be 6 years
and even if she is only a year older then harry- she was on the team for almost a season longer then harry-in the 5th book
If she was in her seventh year when Harry was in his 5th, she has left already. If she is only a year older then Harry, she is no longer on the team than he is. And it is only 2 games out of 3 in the 5th book. We have no idea how many games she might have missed for any reason in all these years. But why would it even be relevant? it's not the the time elapsed since birth that makes a captain.

If she was in her seventh year when Harry was in his 5th, she has left already. If she is only a year older then Harry, she is no longer on the team than he is. And it is only 2 games out of 3 in the 5th book. We have no idea how many games she might have missed for any reason in all these years. But why would it even be relevant? it's not the the time elapsed since birth that makes a captain.Well stated.

Unfortunately, we know as little about Katie as we did Angelina, making it difficult to justify any theories regarding her. Therefore, the only possible argument for Katie is her age. But as you stated, that isn't what qualifies one as captain.

I'd go with Katie Bell. Or even Ron. Harry has other things to worry about. Or on the other hand, DD may appoint him so he can concentrate on other things and he won't be thinking about defeating Vdmrt all the time.

:tu: Most likely Katie Bell. :tu: Final answer. :tu:

I'd hope it would be Harry but maybe Harry doesn't want to take part in Quidditch anymore.

I'd hope it would be Harry but maybe Harry doesn't want to take part in Quidditch anymore.

Yeah that's exactly why I think that Harry wouldn't be quidditch captain. He'll probably be like he was at the end of the OotP. Harry didn't really care about stupid stuff anymore (not that I'm saying it's stupid) but you have to admit, when compared to defeating the most evil wizard of all, the quidditch cup seems pretty insignificant.

Dumbledore does not "owe" him. Dumbledore was not supposed to pick harry for prefect. I thought he would seeing as he is Dumbledore's favorite boy (to quote malfoy)
but dumbledore thought harry had enough responsibility to get on with. And Harry was not upset about not being prefect after that.I think Dumledore "owing" him is a matter of opinion. I see it as him regreting not making Harry a prefect eventhough he thinks he deserved it. Of course that doesn't really have anything to do with the team captaincy.
Quidditch captain would be an added responsibility and harry should not get his mind off of everything. If Harry is QC (quidditch captain) then it will not be to take his mind off of his responsibilities IMO, he will have even more on his plate. Trying to defeat Lord Voldemort, coping with Sirius's death. Forgetting is not a good thing. Accepting the death is a good thing, but trying to forget about Sirius and his noble passage to the world of death would not be a good thing.What I think is that Harry won't see it as just another responsibility we will seee it as something he will like to do kind of like the DA.He needs to get his mind of the war and Voldmort at least once in a while. On Sirius's death Ithink that Harry will cope with it and move on with his life pretty quickly but he will always remeber Sirius. His kind of positive attitude at the end of OoTP is what makes me think that he will not be really depressed throughout the whole book.
Also- here is another reason harry would not be captain- he was not on the team last year for the majority of the year. He will have just gotten back on, is it really fair to Katie to have Harry, who was just let back on, who is younger then her, to become captain?. But this is also really unfair to Harry who should not have been suspended for the rest of the season. Katie is a year older and may have played 3 more games than Harry, but that's not what matters anyway as ikuko said. What does matter is who is better for the job, and I don't think we jnow that since we don't know much about Katie, but if I had to pick someone it would be Harry.

I think Katie when you only take into account books
but with JKR's quote about Quidditch captain allowing him [ron] to stay I see- Harry (as it would make an ok subplot to have slight conflict)or I see Katie- like if someone better tryed out.I agree about the second idea. Thats just what popped into my head the minute I read JK's answer.

I think Ron will be the nwe captain. It's quite good when the keeper is captain, I think.

Why Ron? Can somebody explain to me, why in the world Ron would become a captain? With the exception of the case when all other team members happen to be dead/incapacitated, Ron has no chance of becoming a captain. The only reason i see behind this kind of speculation is: well, lets give poor Ron a moment of glory. Or: if not Harry, then the next major character. Neither is a valid reason. Ron isnt "poor" he is a prefect and a friend of the most famous young wizard.

Lets face it, as Harry's friend, Ron got more glory then he would ever be able to get on his own. 50 points for the house almost every year, the special award, a date for the ball, participation in the second task (even unconcious, he had not a bad spotlight). Dont get me wrong, I love Ron and wish him all the best, but an objective observer can not help but notice that Ron has a lot of benefits already.

And the position of a captain is NOT a prize. It is a job, and a demanding one. Ron has not deserved the position any better than the least known to us new team member, what's their names? the joy of Griffindor over the last victory was because Ron proved to be a decent player, which no one really expected. But there are more decent players on the team. So, why a new-comer Ron, who was a joke on the Quiddich field most of the year? Who has NO leadership skills, as was amply shown in his performance as a prefect?

I am not saying that Harry will surely be the next captain. There are too many things that can go wrong. I am only saying that the choice of Harry for the position is the only logical, just and and sensible one.

I am not saying that Ron will NOT be the captain. JKR can write whatever she wants, and I will be more than happy to read it. I am just saying that the choice of Ron would be rediculous, unfair and disastrous for the team.

If Katie may be a reasonable choice if Harry can not accept the position, and Ginny is a good leader (per OotP) and just too full of surprises and quite capable of impressing us, Ron does not cut it at all. And, BTW, an argument of the keeper as a "good position for the captain" was already discussed in this thread, it helps to read previous arguments.

Well, I think it SHOULD be Harry, but then, I thought Harry should have been the new prefect...
So I bet it depends on who is picking the new captaincy...

I'd hope it would be Harry but maybe Harry doesn't want to take part in Quidditch anymore.

Harry thought he didn't want to like Quidditch at a certain moment only. He'll need Quidditch to think to something else than Voldemort and Sirius.

There is no way Harry dislikes quiddich at any moment. He might have been frustrated with the dismal performance of his team mates, but never disliked the game itself. I think he would be very pleased to become a captain, and will be a good one.

Can we please join the two threads on the same topic together? It is difficult to keep up with the arguments in parallel discussions.

I think Ron will be the nwe captain. It's quite good when the keeper is captain, I think.
I don't think it's based on what position you play but rather how well you can manage the team, with organising practice and keeping up moral and things like that. I mean this time (OotP) it was Angelina and she was a chaser.

I do not really think that the appointment of the captain depends on the position. It was already discussed before (in this thread) and concluded that captains come from all positions. There is really nothing that goes in favour of Ron for the captain. Not if Harry, Katie or even Ginny are still on the team.

katie,i think cos she's more senior than harry..but it also could be harry cos he's a good player.....we'll see..

Katie does seems like the reasonable next choice but when she goes i would like to see Ron in the role or Ginny.

katie,i think cos she's more senior than harry..but it also could be harry cos he's a good player.....we'll see..
Why is she more senior? If she is only one year older, and Harry is the only one who started in his first year, then they both play for 5 years by now. Are you counting the absolute age? Then McGonagall should be the captain :)

Although there is really no evidence to say whom would be the better captain, I think McGonagall would make a mistake by not promoting Katie to captainship.

Here is my evidence:

1. She has seniority and experience. Although both Harry and Katie will be entering their sixth year's on the team (includes GOF), Katie is the elder of the two, and we can assume unless she is muggle-born (which from COS appears not to be the case), she has probably been around quidditch and knows the game a little bit better, just based on overall experience. Harry has only seen 1 or 2 quidditch games played before in which he was not participating, we can assume that Katie saw all 4 during her first year, and probably many more before then. I think watching how other teams play and understanding them is essential to be a leader. Right now, Harry is lacking in that regard. Reading can only get you so far.

2. Time is an issue. McGonagall knows that every year Harry manages to get himself into something, that pulls his attention away from school, quidditch, etc. Why would she think this year would be any different. As others have said, it's most likely that Katie has more time to focus on being captain.

3. As someone said, ever since Harry joined the team, they have not lost a single game that he completed. But I think that's more evidence why Katie should be captain. Harry is a great seeker, and he should focus his attention on that as he's done in the past. Managing the team and being a seeker IMO really don't mix. A chaser like Katie is much more likely to be able to oversee the entire field and flow of the game because she is always focused on the action at hand, which is centered around the Quaffle not the Golden Snitch.

4. Also Katie was on the team during the months of Harry's absence. She has experience playing with Ron and Ginny, both of whom will return to the team next year. She knows Sloper and Kirke, and I think building a better team is something that she is in a position to do better than Harry is.

These are also the same reasons why I think Ron should be appointed captain in Book 7 over Harry if it comes to that.

We know that Harry is a natura leader, and have yet to see anything that suggests Katie is the same. But the very fact that she is in Gryffindor leads me to believe that the ability is in her. I think people are putting a bit too much emphasis on "leadership ability." I think as we've seen with Wood and Angelina Johnson, the role of quidditch captain is more of a "management" role than that of a true leader, that is if you know the difference...

Katie is the most reasonable choice--age, leadership, etc. But there's already been a beautifully present support of that ^_^, so anyway...

I doubt Ron or Ginny will receive the captainship--Ron has only been on the team for one year, and Ginny a half year. If we're considering years of playing, that's not anything compared to Harry.

However, after Katie graduates next year, I think either (1) Harry will pass the captaincy (?) to Ron, or (2) Ron will receive it anyway. This is kind of like the prefect issue-Harry will be a little busy, what with the whole neither-shall-live issue ;-), and who knows if he'll have the time to deal with Quidditch captaincy?

Just my take on the matter.

Katie is the most reasonable choice--age, leadership, etc. But there's already been a beautifully present support of that ^_^, so anyway.... ? Can you please elaborate on this? There is a very small difference in age, but why would it matter? They have same seniority on the team. As to leadership skills, I do not understand you. The leadership skills of Harry are unquestionable. He had proven himself a leader time and time again, every year. Where did you find a single example in the books when Katie had demonstrated ANY leadership qualities? Um... and there was nothing presented in the entire thread so far except the weak argument that her absolute age is greater, what are you referring to as a beautiful presentation?



1. She has seniority and experience...


There is age seniority that has no relation to the game skills. No seniority on the team. Since the books are written from Harry's point of view, we have no idea how many games Katie has missed for any number of reasons. She could have a flu. Harry did miss two games. Not that Katie saved the day in his abcence

2. Time is an issue. McGonagall knows that every year Harry manages to get himself into something, that pulls his attention away from school, quidditch, etc. Why would she think this year would be any different. As others have said, it's most likely that Katie has more time to focus on being captain.

We do not know that. To deny the team the best possible leader for the reason that he WAS a good leader before, and MIGHT be busy in the future (when was Harry too busy for quiddich, as long as he is concious?) is a gross injustice. For that matter, we do not know how devoted Katie is to quiddich. Harry is very devoted.

3. As someone said, ever since Harry joined the team, they have not lost a single game that he completed. But I think that's more evidence why Katie should be captain. Harry is a great seeker, and he should focus his attention on that as he's done in the past. Managing the team and being a seeker IMO really don't mix. A chaser like Katie is much more likely to be able to oversee the entire field and flow of the game because she is always focused on the action at hand, which is centered around the Quaffle not the Golden Snitch.
Seekers are as often captains as any other players. We know at least two. That is not an argument at all, and yet it is brought up again and again. EVERY player has to concenntrate on his or her task. Who would be better than Seeker? Keeper? He must watch the goal posts. Beaters? they are too intent on bludgers. Chasers? Come on, they are too busy with scoring and the opposite team. Please, this is almost as bad as the pity vote for Ron.
4. Also Katie was on the team during the months of Harry's absence. She has experience playing with Ron and Ginny, both of whom will return to the team next year. She knows Sloper and Kirke, and I think building a better team is something that she is in a position to do better than Harry is.
So she played 2 games with them. So what? It's not like she was a captain. She was just doing what she has always done (like being nearly invisible on the team). Harry has half of the team as best friends, and is much more respected than Katie.

I think it's time for Harry to have an position of power to show his leadership skills( outsie of the DA). He will be captain, I hope. Dumbledore already passed him over for prefect, he deserves it.

I am not quite sure if the injustice of the prefect thing would have much importance for the appointment of the quiddich captein. They really need the best captain they can get. This is, undoubtfully, Harry. Unless there is some major force circumstances, Harry is simply the best choice. Another thing, there was never a book yet without the major-force circumstances for Harry...

He deserves being quidditch captain but I think it will be Katie in 6th and Ron in 7th. We know for sure Ron won't be it in 6th but I think after a full year of decent or good play he could be given the captain badge. I see Harry as the HB in his seventh year, so both roles may be a bit too much for him.

And people why should he be denied any honorable position (captain or headboy) just because he has Voldemort to deal with. For all they know it could be 10 years after graduation that the final battle takes place, I think it's a weak argument.

just like harry never became prefect i don't tink he could become captain, He has other resposibilities, and i don't think he would be very good as a captain. he is so use to doing his own thing on the quidditch pitch being the seeker. he would not be able to keep his eye on the game as well as a chaser or the goal keeper could.

i actually think ron will be captain in either book 6 or 7.Ii mean nearly everything that Ron see in the mirror has come true, he is one step closer to becomning head boy as he is already a prefect even if he isn't that good at it, and he has helped win the house cup every year and quidditch cup in book 5 all thats left is for him to becoem quidditch captain.

Dumbeldore wouldn't overload Harry considering the number of responsibilities Harry already shoulders. On the other hand, Katie inspite of having experience does not appear to have the same amount of talent. Experience is not a necessary qualification where captaincy is concerned. It requires skill and tact. Another reason is that next year, that is, in Harry's seventh year a new Captain will have to be chosen. Chances are that Harry will be chosen the Gryffindor Quidditch Captain. We'll find out in HBP anyways.

I do not think that the quidditch captaincy is an overwhelming responcibility for Harry. And DD will not deny him a well-deserved honour and joy.

I keep hearing Ron will be captain and its so funny. Nobdy becomes captain after 1 good game. He is not a leader and people dont respect Ron.

I dont think it'll be Ron, maybe Harry. But then again, when Dumbledore didn't appoint him prefect because DD thought Harry had too much on his plate, maybe he wouldn't let Harry be captain. Hmm...i'm not sure

Qudditch captian is fun unlike prefect whee there is work and its not that rewarding.

So Harry needs fun in his life. And he would be a perfect captIN

No, I don't think that Harry will be concerned with Quidditch as much as he used to be. He'll probably be on the team but he has other responsabilities. That was the reason why DD didn't appoint him as prefect. So no, I don't believe that Harry will become Quidditch captain for book 6 or 7.

Well it will be Katie Bell in sixth- it has to be. She'll be the oldest on the team, and probably learned a lot from Angelina and Wood, being one that was very close to them before they left.
In the last year is when we will see who becoms Captain. I would really think it was cool if J.K. made Ginny captain, seeingas she had kept her cool the whole year in her fourth year as seeker- sure you could tell she was stressed, but shewas the only one on the team with her head on straight.

Well it will be Katie Bell in sixth- it has to be. She'll be the oldest on the team, and probably learned a lot from Angelina and Wood, being one that was very close to them before they left.
In the last year is when we will see who becoms Captain. I would really think it was cool if J.K. made Ginny captain, seeingas she had kept her cool the whole year in her fourth year as seeker- sure you could tell she was stressed, but shewas the only one on the team with her head on straight.She won't be the oldest on the team, she is there same time as Harry. She is oldest by age. Does it even matter? And how you figure that she was closeto Angelina and Wood? there is nothing in canon about that. And what about Harry? Do you think he is not even worth considering?

I think that it will be Harry. Either that, or Ginny. I think that she's one of the best players on the team, and it would help to have a captain that's there more than just one or two years. Wood was either a fifth year (or earlier) when he became captain, so I think that it would make Ginny a good captain. Who is it up to, anyway? McGonagal? Or possibly Madam Hooch, since she's the referee and stuff....

Harry has more hands on experience in a game than Ron, but does Harry know enough of every part of Quidditch.How would a seeker fit with being a captian. I do think Harry deserves the captain position and there really isn't anyone else to give the position to. Because like some have said Katie would be leaving after the 6th book and they have to yet again pick another captain.So it would make sense to make Harry the captain.

Go Harry, I think it will be him for the simple reason that Ron's a prefect and has enough to worry about, so naturally Harry would become the captain to even things out more.

Harry wants to be an auror, not a Quidditch player. I don't think he will be made captain.

this has nothing to do with him becoming an auror, he can still be Quidditch captain and become an auror after he has finished school, that's if he ever does!

Ginny could end up being captain.

Ginny could end up being captain.

I think she would be highly doubtful. She hasn't even been on the team for an entire season yet.

Potter is our KING!!! :rotfl:

I think that Ginny is a likely choice. She's pretty good considering that she's only been on the team for one season. I thin that she's incredibly bright and would be able to come up with the greatest plans. Also, if she switches to a chaser it would work out. I see the captain as being one of the chasers/beaters/keepers, because they have to work as a team a little bit more than the seeker...then again, cedric was a seeker.

Probably not Harry because he's got enough on his plate...but then again, being team captain would not be as much of a responsibility as a prefect, and it's a much lighter sided job. It would be much more fun than a burden.

Ron knows alot of quidditch stategies but hes not a leader.

Ginny was there to replace Harry, once hes back on the team she has no position...

I do not know though, Harry does have a lot to deal with but at the same time some get away from it all would do him real good. Harry loves Quidditch and Dumbledore did want to give him more responsibility so the Quidditch team captain role would do exactly that. Harry does need to work better in a team situation by actually listen more to what others say rather than rushing off and doing his own thing while at the same time putting others in danger (not that he does this on purpose but more that Harry is too impulsive). The Quidditch captain role would give him a better opportunity to show off his team work and leadership roles, in many ways students within the school may begin to look up to Harry more, like they did with James. Harry as Quidditch team captain may even bring the houses closer together.

Then again I would love to see Ron get the role but he does have prefect duty already which may interfere with his leadership role in Quidditch. On the other hand this could explain why Harry leaves the Drusleys early and in a good mood due to finding out who has made Quidditch team captain by owl post.

Ginny was there to replace Harry, once hes back on the team she has no position...
No, ginny said she was going to try out for chaser because she's got nothing better to do. So Ginny will probably be on the team.

She won't be the oldest on the team, she is there same time as Harry. She is oldest by age. Does it even matter? And how you figure that she was closeto Angelina and Wood? there is nothing in canon about that. And what about Harry? Do you think he is not even worth considering?
No, I believe he is worth considering, but his seventh year is the huge year... The last year. I think he could even deny taking the position of quiditch captain... Seeing that JK could make a major plot twist on us in book seven, there is a lot of reasoning that Harry may not be the captain. Just my opinion. :)

katie bell, angelina johnson and alicia were in the same year right?
my guess is that it would be harry since all his teammates since he started playing have already graduated.

I'll go for Harry because he's on of the best players but I think Ron has a pretty good chance now he's started to save goals and with Charlie as his brother

Ginny was there to replace Harry, once hes back on the team she has no position...
Angelina has left, there is a position of a chaser Ginny wanted in the first place.
kathphphphp, we do not really know if Katie was in the seventh year. There is a general assumption that she was in the sixth, but no canon proof of that.
Chloe, Harry is starting his sixth year. And so far, there was no problems with other captains that were in the seventh year. In fact, most of the time we have a seventh year captain.
Once again, for all those who claim that position of the seeker is not a good one: at least two of the captains we know about were seekers, and they were very good: Charlie and Cedric. We know about only few other captains (Oliver, Keeper; Angelina, Chaser; perhaps i forgot someone, but considering that only one out of seven players is a seeker, it seems that seekers become captains more often then any other players.
Another thing: a captain might spend a little more time than an ordinary player planning the game, but exactly the same time training. Harry spends every waking moment reading or talking about quidditch anyway. Therefore there will be no addiotional time burden for him to be a captain. So the argument "he has too much on his plate" is rediculous. As if his reward for having the hardest life in school must be denying all the pleasures.

i think that ron will be the captain because remember in the sorcerers stone he looks in the mirror and he sees himself as quidditch captain. maybe he will be becuase he doesent have much recognition, he is just kind of harry's friend and he needs some of the twighlight. just a thought but wouldnt it be cool if hermione was on the quidditch team. then the whole trio would be on the team. i dont really think she would be on the team though because she is the homework person. it would just be cool though.

That would be cool if Ron's mirror thing came true I doubt it though

This is Harry's story not ron's. So Harry will become captain. Ron has no hope.