Where's Peeves?

I was just wondering if anyone knew any reason as to why Peeves was cut from both films?

On mugglenet.com (http://www.mugglenet.com/cast-nonhuman.shtml), it shows Peeves down in the cast list for both films (played by Rik Mayall) and yet he did not appear in either of them

Chris Columbus decided to cut all of Peeve's scenes in the first movie due to the long running time of the movie. He didn't even bother to shoot Peeve's scenes for the second one.

Well so far Peeves hasn't been an essential character in any of the books so far, if he does become one in the next 3 not sure what they will do.

poor Rik Mayall...

I really wanted to hear Peeves sing "Oh Potter, you rotter...." :(

Originally posted by Jedi Potter
Well so far Peeves hasn't been an essential character in any of the books so far, if he does become one in the next 3 not sure what they will do.
The guy who wrote the scripts for the two movies is supposed to have been told by JK what is going to happen in the next 3 books. If he didn't felt useful to introduce Peeves, my guess is that he won't be a major character in any of the books to come.

But was Peeves in the screenplay? It was my impression he was, but Columbus cut him...

Im sure he was in the script, he would've had one or two scenes. They casted an actor but then Columbus decided not to include him. But I don't think he actually shot his scenes.

Hmmm I dont know a lot about this but i think that they didnt ut him because he is not really important. I would have liked him in the movies though...

According to varying sources and information posted in this thread (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2526) and this thread (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1297), Chris Columbus had his own personal reasons for cutting Peeves from the film. Apparently he doesn't like Peeves, as a character, much.

I don't really like that sort of logic, but I guess we have to put up with it. :shrug:

Chris Rankin (Percival Weasley) said he shot the scenes with Rik Mayall (Peeves) but they got cut out in the end.

Ahhh, Peeves would have been so cool...

Poor Rik Mayall! Imagine having all of your scenes cut! They aren't even on the DVD! LOL

It's strange that those scenes aren't at the dvd, thats why I supposed Columbus wouldn't have shot them. Poor Mayal...

This maybe a off topic but I don't think Chris Columbus made a excellent director. There are couple of messy scenes like the earmuffs part, and have you people noticed that in every class there's Gryffindor, Slythin and Hufflepuff? And first one, I believe Hermione is always talking to Susan Bones which is Chris's daughter. He just wanted to put her in the screen more. Susan Bone is always right next to Hermione in all the classes. I don't know, I'm in irritatible mood.

i would of liked having Peeves, but i guess he wasn't AS important, but i hope they'll eventually introduce him at some point.

I doubt very hard that they will introduce him in one of the forthcomming movies because then people would be like: Where did he comes from? If he is such a trouble maker, we would have heard of him (or heard him) before! And then they would cry outrage, get up form their seat, ask for a refund and do book burning sessions outside the movie theaters... No, bad idea to introduce Peeves so late in the serie...

Sorry, my brain is working funny tonight... :sorry:

Originally posted by Dobby
I really wanted to hear Peeves sing "Oh Potter, you rotter...." :( Me too. I guess he's not going to be in any of the movies then, unless the new director adds him into the movie! *hope springs eternal*

Maybe Cuaron likes Peeves. Who knows?
In PoA, however, he doesn't play an important role. He just sees Sirius Black attacking the Fat Lady and informs the others. He could be perfectly replaced by Sir Nick.

I was wondering that myself. Too bad, it would have been funny!

Is it just weird me or has anyone else heard Percy saying "Hallo, Peeves" in one of the scenes although they did not show Peeves there? I'm not very sure, but at least it seemed to me so. I'm probably hallucinating.:(

Manyasha, do you have any specific scene to point out?

That was THE one thing I noticed wasn't in the film. The Deathday party. Poor Peeves....I feel sorry for the character. He didn't get to be in the movie...:(

Wasn't Peeves somewhat helpful in getting the students to better respect Lupin or see him in a better light when he first taught the first DADA class? Peeves was plugging up a hole in the door and Lupin had cast a spell that dislodged the gum and pinged onto Peeves. If CC doesn't like Peeves, he shouldn't cut him out of the movie just because he doesn't like him or that he doesn't serve a real purpose. How does he know he won't in later to be published books? :)

I think it's a shame. Rik Mayall would have made the most fantastic Peeves.

Besides, just because he doesn't do anything doesn't mean he's unimportant. Fang doesn't do anything and they left him in! He's a part of the books, albeit the part that irritates the characters, but a part nonetheless. He's a worthy feature of the castle.

But what about "Potter Your Rotter" thing! It rulez.

He'll be in the PoA. He's the one who tells the about Black.

About "Potter you rotter" thing - I was rather disappointed when I saw the scene where Harry finds Nearly-Headless Nick and Justin. It was supposed to be a scandal - everyone saw it and there was a big fuss about Harry being the Heir of Slythering. But in the movie it's somehow "omitted". No Peeves, no students, only McGonagall. They could have done that scene better.:shrug:

Yeah... I think they should have left peeve's scenes in the movies... oh well... I just think it would be incredibly funny if he became an important character later on and they didnt know how to fit him in the movies... however, I am sure JK would have said something to them about it by now (that they should have had him in the movies) if it were the case that he would become an important character.

~Talon

While Peeves isn't a major character, I have been disappointed not to see him thus far in the movies. :(

I think it's a shame they took him out. He is a really funny actor!

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Casting Rik Mayall for the part of peeves was brilliant, because there is nobody else so perfectly suited for the role. I love the guy - he's just so brutally funny and annoying at the same time. I was disappointed he wasn't in either film.

Well they could have at least put them in the deleated scenes on the DVD! I would have loved to see Peeves!! Or maybe they were waiting till they come out with a Limited addition/ Collectors addtion DVD and put that in there. (hope they do come out with something like that *crosses fingers*) :shrug: who knows?

Well, I wouldn't be surprised if JKR DOES make him a larger character in upcoming books. I mean, I know she has the basic 7-part series laid out in her head, but it's not as though she knows EVERY little sub-plot and scene that is going to happen. When you write, sometimes these things just occur.

I also read an article about JKR saying that she is totally disregarding the future movies as she writes new books. She won't worry about how new stuff could be filmed or whether the books are too long. This is all to her credit, of course. So I don't think she would deliberately not use Peeves as a major character in the future just because he's not in the movies.

I would love Peeves to feature more in the movies - Rik Mayall would be great for the role, and I'd just love to see him in the OotP Movie, especially at the end where:
He's chasing Umbridge out of the castle with McGonagall's walking stick and a sock full of chalk

Wasn't too sure if that was a spoiler.. but better to be safe than spoil, eh.

I think Peeves was a pretty semi big part in the first 2 books, but with films you have to cut something back, they figured they could and did get the point across with out pevees.

Look at all the stuff they will have to cut from books 4 and 5, unless they do it 2 part movies.

i actually think peeves IS in the 1st movie, when all the ghost come out of the ceiling/walls/floor theres this little funny guy who comes out of the floor and hes waving about going "wohowooo" i think thats peeves

No, you know who, Peeves is supposed to be coloured and all the ghosts were clear. I'm also upset he wasn't in the movie, he was so funny. But did anyone notice that when Quirrel let the troll in, Ron says 'Probably Peeves' idea of a joke!" if I'm not mistaken. But if they didn't even introduce him, then what's the point of him saying that? I think this was a major blunder!

Why did they cut him out? Was there just not enough time?

I saw some pictures of the actor who plays peeves, and he looked just like Peeves should look. I think he would have been hillarious if they left him in.

This may have been asked before but will Peeves appear in PoA? or any future Harry Potter movies? I have always wanted to see what Peeves looks like.

Peeves was cast in the first film, but as far as I know his scenes were just cut. I'm not sure if he was cast in the second film or if he has been cast in the third.

I highly doubt we will be seeing celluiod Peeves and we'll just have to keep imagining him.

Unfortunately, now that he has been cut from two films it would be hard to put him in any of the future films.

Yes... Rik Mayall was the one originally cast - or so they say. It's a shame he *isn't* in it, because he would be a welcome addition.

he's not a "required" character for the storyline, not in a way that they can just work around at any rate, so thats probably why they cut him out. its a shame he was cut, but as said already, it would be too akward now to introduce him into the films.

I thought Peeves would be a important character in the movies because he adds comic relief to a other wise serious situation.

he's not a "required" character for the storyline, not in a way that they can just work around at any rate, so thats probably why they cut him out. its a shame he was cut, but as said already, it would be too akward now to introduce him into the films.

If that's their excuse then why were the ghosts left in?

I wish I could see a picture of peeves that was cut, it would be cool!

I wish I could see a picture of peeves that was cut, it would be cool!
Didn't there used to be a picture of Peeves on Mugglenet? I looked for it, but I couldn't find it. Oh, well, like someone (sorry, forget who!) said, we'll just have to keep imagining.

but i guess if tehre's gonna be a 7th harry potter movie, peeves would be in it. during fred and george's escape. that's an important scene coz after that peeves did give umbridge hell

I this this is the only peeves picture released. By the way we do have Peeves in the video games so the game developer find him important.

LOL that's not how I imagined peeves! I imagined him transparent but wearing clothes and having hair.

Thanks for putting him up though!

LOL, that's a great picture! I would have loved to have seen Peeves in the movies.. the sight of Rik Mayall singing "Oh Potter, you rotter" with a dance routine would have been too much ;)

Who is rik mayall?!

I thought i read that Pevves woudl be in the 3rd movie. Obvisouly he was a part that they figured wouldnt hurt the movie if he was cut and it really didnt, i wish they had put him in due to he is funny, but that happens in movies that were books first things are cut

That picture posted above isn't Rik Mayall as Peeves - it's from the film Drop Dead Fred.

I wished they'd kept him on, though, because Peeves is great and Rik Mayall is perfect for him. Minor or not, it doesn't matter because they've kept on many minor characters besides him. I suppose he didn't fit in with the rest of the film, or something. I'm sure they had their reasons, anyway, otherwise he wouldn't have been cut.

I could have sworn there was a Peeves, I saw it on mugglenet before..but alas the site is down and Imbd doesn't have anyone cast as Peeves on their cast list for Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban. ergs

I would have loved to see how they made him look like Peeves. For some reason, I really love Peeves and I was very upset when he wasn't in the first 2 movies.

I would think it was because the movies were already so long, and they really don't need him for the story line at all. Who knows, maybe in future movies he may show up. Then everyone who doesnt read the books will be wondering who this new ghost is, LOL.
:p

Does anyone else think that Hogwarts is getting less of a prankster feel to it? I love all the ghosts, polterguists, talking portraits, and boggarts. I wish the film makers would give it back it's life. And Peeves. :(

I this this is the only peeves picture released. By the way we do have Peeves in the video games so the game developer find him important.

I hate to disappoint, but that picture is from the movie Drop Dead Fred.

They have to add peeves, his a major player in the upcoming books. They cant cut him completely or the movies wont make sense

Peeves just MUST be in OotP! Or I'll kill the director! Argh, to who should Fred and George [Gred and Forge :D] tell the famous quote "Give her hell from us, Peeves"? I hope they won't cut out that scene!

I wouldn't be quite so upset that Peeves didn't make the cut if he was being played by someone other than Rik Mayall. He would have been SO perfect.

http://www.orangeneko.com/rik/pages/ddfred5.jpg

Peeves is just too important to be cut all together they'll bring him in somehow

Even though Peeves hasn't made an appearance yet I can easily see him fit into the up coming films, even if it isn't until OOTP.

In POA there were random, unknown Ghost threw out the film so I can see OOTP showing Peeves for the first time, just reeking havoc on the students every so often in the halls, just as long as we can have Fred and George's famous lines, "Give her hell from us, Peeves" That's a must have line!! I can't wait to see that part on film!!

I think that if they try to shove him in at this point, it'll seem like an after-thought. I really wish they'd had him in from the start, but at this point? It'd seem like clumsy directing. "Oops! We forgot someone."

I'm sure they probably will not add him. More's the pity. Should have had him from the start.

Mayall was going to play Peeves? Wow, he would have been perfect. I do wish Peeves was in the movie, but perhaps he'll make the Goblet film

I miss Peeves in the films. I hope they will let him appear in the OotP, when the Twins leave, but I don't have much hope

peeves helps make the books good. he's one of my fave characters!
im so bummed he hasnt been in any of the movies so far. :(

I don't mind him being cut too much, but he would have been nice in CoS for the scene with Mrs. Norris. It's obvious they shot the scenes, because Peeves in the playstation game looks a bit like the man they cast as peeves.

I just don't think they thought he was very important to the storyline so they cut him. (I beg to differ...)

I don't mind that Peeves hasn't been in the films. I find him particularly annoying. All he would do is take up valuable time in the movies that is already deseperately needed.

The HP directors all seem pretty intent on making the movies humorous, so much so that they've added extra non-book bits just to get laughs (eg. Knight Bus talking head fiasco). Wouldn't it be more effective to include more of the comedy from the books, like the antics of Peeves, which, aside from being far funnier, actually have something to do with the plot?

You know, it would be nice to put Peeves in. I'd love to see him for OotP after the twins leave and told him to cause havoc for Umbridge. lol

Peeves really has never had anything to do with the plot. The closest he ever came to being involved with the plot was in PoA, when he identified Sirius as the attacker of the Fat Lady. However, the Fat Lady herself could do that.

Peeves was tangentially involved in developing Filch's character and the wizarding world by setting up our learning about squibs in CoS. However, that actually proved unnecessary to that story.

Peeves has a far greater role in the books than any talking heads or exploding birds. I'm not saying that Peeves is as significant a character as Harry, but he's certainly been involved in lots of important parts of the stories, especially in CoS and PoA. Therefore I think his appearance in the movies is quite justifiable.

if he were to become important in future books, they will prob. shift that responsiblity to someone else. thats actually in the movie.

:tu: :tu: :tu: Bring on the little trouble maker and give him his Due......

Me and my friend both noticed he was missing from the films. He's supposed to be the one who tells them that Black was in the castle. I thought that was a rather imortant part

I know that Peeves isn't a very important character, but I would like to see him in future films. He is a very funny character and deserves at least at least one short scene, even if it is only for a few seconds! I hope to see the "Give her hell from us, Peeves" line in OotP!

But Peeves himself has not been a crucial element to any scenes, either as a plot device or a device for developing Harry's (or Ron's or Hermione's) character(s).

But Peeves is far from being a useless character - he adds to the magical atmosphere of Hogwarts just as much as the ghosts do, he helps to define important characters such as Filch and Lupin, he acts as a source of tension or suspense in quite a few scenes, and he's somehow involved with the as yet unaddressed history of the Bloody Baron.

Of course the movies make do well enough without him, and I'm not saying that his inclusion is absolutely essential, or that without him the movies fall to pieces. I'm simply proposing that, since the role he plays in the books isn't insignificant, he deserves at least to make an (albeit small) appearance in the films.

Moreover, simply eliminating the talking heads or birds would not somehow create time for Peeves. Columbus bloated his movies with excessive scenes (nearly ruining the franchise in the process, given the huge drop in CoS' BO and the fact that PoA's good reviews and word of mouth still could not bring back the audience that the first two movies lost), yet even his most extraneous scenes did not waste time on Peeves.

But Peeves' scenes were still filmed, and from what I've read, they turned out well, so I think the exclusion of his character must have been due more to the need to cut down the length of the film rather than the fact that he wasn't important enough to include. Which leads me to wonder why they didn't use Peeves' scenes, which would have added humour and atmosphere, instead of some of the other reasonably boring scenes.


Why? Because even though Peeves is involved in important scenes, he never is an important or uniquely crucial part of any scene. There is nothing that Peeves does that cannot be done by someone else who does have an important role to play.

Story telling is hindered by extraneous characters. The book can get away with it because it uses Peeves largely in the "down-time" scenes between crucial events, or to add humor to otherwise dark events.The movies use other things (like the bluebird of happiness getting squashed motif - which summarizes becoming a teenager quite well) to provide breaks between scenes, and they use existing characters to add levity.

I suppose that's true. I admit, I'm being selfish in that I feel the films should cater more to the actual readers of HP by sticking more closely to the books and including more of the characters and events which occur in them, and I can see how this could confuse or bore other moviegoers. But Peeves, like the ghosts, probably wouldn't feature prominently enough in any scene to be overbearing or confusing, so I can't see why his appearance would make much difference to the flow of the story.

Also, I know that the talking heads and bird scenes don't actually use up much time, but I just get irritated when parts of the books are ignored because they'll take up too much time or will confuse the viewers, and new just-for-the-hell-of-it details are added, like the talking heads, which end up doing much the same thing.

BTW, I apparently missed the link between the transition from childhood to adolescence and the squished bluebird. :)

I hope to see the "Give her hell from us, Peeves" line in OotP!

Me too! :)

I do hope that Peeves manages to make his way into any of the upcoming movies. It would be a shame if he was passed up. Rik Mayall would be absolutely brilliant as Peeves. But I would prefer Peeves over Headless Nick.

This is probably the difference I do not see any of these things as useful, or uniquely useful. The ghosts already add to the magic atmosphere. Filch's and Lupin's characters are developed quite well without Peeves. It is improbable that the Bloody Baron's history is of any importance to the story, and thus improbable that it shall ever be in the books, never mind the movies.
Again, I'm not saying Peeves is a necessity, but he is used to convey character and atmosphere to some extent. And as far as the Bloody Baron's story goes, well, I simply don't believe that JK would suggest a mystery in the books unless she meant to resolve it. So far she hasn't shown herself to be the sort of writer who just includes things like that for the fun of it.

I do not think that is true. I think that they considered one cameo scene for Peeves in P/SS. However, they never even completed it - they did not budget the time for special effects that they should have.
Really? You could be correct. However, I read an article on a Rik Mayall site which told how, when filming his scenes for HP, he had all the kids howling with laughter and so forth (no great surprise there!), which (perhaps mistakenly) led me to believe that his scenes were successful. Dreadfully sorry.

One of the key things to remember is that we HP fans (or fans of any book, such as Lord of the Rings) are minorities of the movie-going audience, and tiny minorities at that. Moreover, many fans of books are fans of details of the narrative or b-plots that are quite secondary to the real story.

Basically, they cannot cater to us. If they did, then only book fans would see the movie and the movies would be huge flops.

That being written, I am surprised that they are not catering to (and profiting from) the hardcore fans by filming extra scenes and issuing them on extended DVD's. Peeves would be OK there. Many of the EE Lord of the Rings scenes were sort of like that - they fleshed out the characters and the world much more than they contributed to the story, and we Tolkien fans enjoyed seeing them.
Hm, I'd be just as happy to see Peeves in an extended edition DVD, just as long as we get to see him! I probably wouldn't be so keen on his inclusion in the films if he was being played by anyone other than Rik Mayall - but considering they went to the trouble to hire such a brilliant comedian, it would have been wise of them to use him to their advantage, and put his scenes on a special edition DVD or something to entice the readers of the series, as well as Mayall fans.

But anyhow, I don't quite see how including Peeves in the films would drive away non-readers? He's not a particularly heavy or complex character, and he's funny, so why should he be such a turn off? His appearance wouldn't add a phenomenal amount of length to the film, and anyhow, everyone flocked to see LotR RotK, even though it went for three hours, so length can't be that discouraging.

They add to the character of the world. JKR noted that she wished that she had thought of the talking heads - they did seem like they belonged in the world. Moreover, it did not even take up time - it was all time being used to show the Knight Bus (which also added to the development of the wizard world). Had they actually made time for it, then I, too, would object. But having the thing banter during scenes that needed to be shown just to convey the concept of the Knght Bus was fine.
Nope, still not keen on the talking heads, I'm afraid! Perhaps I would have liked them more if JK had thought of them first, but still, they're a bit... erm... odd. :) I know it would have slowed down the scene too much, but I would have liked to see more of the discussion between Stan and Harry about Sirius in the Knight Bus scene instead of a talking head. But that's just me. :)

I liked that visual metaphor! PoA was kind of rushed, so you needed a brief "respite" scene or two in the movie. One that provided a metaphor related to the story's main theme was pretty clever, I thought.
Sorry, I still don't completely understand the metaphor. Personally, I never felt anything like an exploding bird when I was thirteen, but I may be in the minority there. :p

I miss Peeves in the movies. They could at least show him flying through the halls destorying something or getting kick out of a classroom before a lesson. He's too cool. :evil:

Who is rik mayall?!


He's Rick the grumpy new wave guy on The Young Ones. Might before your time depending on how old you are and where you're from. But I'm American and used to watch reruns of it all the time in my youth. Freakin hilarious!!! :lol:

i was a bit upset when they didn't put peeves in the movies..what a waste cos it will bring some laughter..

To be completely honest, I never thought about Peeves much. While watching the movies, I was like, "Okay, seems a ghost is missing. Peeves the Poltergeist!" It would've been amusing to see Peeves in the movie just doing random background stuff (like they do with these other name-less ghosts).

His just randomly breaking things would've been interesting or getting yelled at by one of the professors. IMO, he would've been good to use in CoS's movie, and OotP (whenever it comes out).

They have to have him in Ootp, cause they have to give him the line.

I think Peeves is no lost, I am sure some people were worried that he become like Jar Jar Binks in SW a stupid character that people find really annoying. And like was said he wasn't important to the plot and some things just have to go to help the story move.

I'm actually sad that Peeves isn't in the movies. He might not be one of the most important characters in the book, but he is a good for a few laughs.
I don't think that he will be introduced since he hasn't been in the first 3 movies. It would not seem to fit 4 movies into the series. I do hope that I am wrong though. Because it will be a shame to not have him in the Fred and George exit of Hogwarts scene (I hope that they don't cut that). But his part is not really essential for the over all plot of the book (that we know of yet) so it would seem that he is a good character to cut from the film. But I still think that it is a comedic loss.

If I recall Rik Mayall did the work for Peeves but was cut for various reasons.

Plus, judging from the earlier scripts smoothly integrating him while making the point that he's not a ghost could have proved problematical.

Few things in the movies are more cringe-worthy than the "Look, it's Nearly Headless Nick." line in CoS.

I actually was thinking about Peeves last night. I was listening to PoA on tape in bed, and it was the first DADA class. I'm kinda sad he got cut, but I really wanted Eric Idol, so what can you do?!

I think we should start a letter writing campaign to the studio demanding they include Peeves. I love the book character and Rik Mayal is perfect casting for Peeves--it's almost as if JK had Rik in mind when she wrote Peeves.

Anybody have an address or email we can send to?

I know he's not one of the main characters but I'd like to see what he looks like and i'd like to see some of his tricks in acction :D

I hadn't missed peeves in the first couple of movies cause' I hadn't picked up a HP book yet, anyway, I think Peeves is not in the movies cause they didn't have enough time to film those parts, or, the adaptaion from book to screen-script just couldn';t fit him in. I mean, sometimes, a writer has to omit those details that do not pretain much to the plot and therefore wont be used in the sequel, and so on and so forth.

I mean, it is only a two hour movie, and they needed to keep it a two hour movie; so, having Lupin make the wad of gum fly back at Peeves would be totally pointless, besides, the Bogart scene was interesting and funny; well, untilt he end, but that's part of the plot anyway.

I personally would like it, I think it could add a bit of humour to them, especially in Ootp, after Fred and George are gone. what do you think?

This should probably be in muggle studies, but YES! I'd at least like to see him in the background somewhere. There are so many ghosts in the movies, they can't put peeves into a scene scaring some first years or something? Four seconds, people, that's all I'm asking for!

It would be nice to see him, but it would be very hard to put him in. The reason why he isn't in the movie is because it would be very expensive to do the special effects.

I missed him so much in the first movie, but I have resigned myself to his loss.

I think this thread should be sufficient...Where's Peeves? (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=4083&highlight=Peeves) :)

Remember to search first... (a search for "Peeves" under Muggle Studies and it popped right up...) and Happy posting!

I wish Peeves would be in the movies....oh well....

Yes, i think his scenes where shot and he was Rick Mayall, but they decided to cut him :(.

if peeves isnt in the 5th movie im gonna be so mad!!! he kinda pkays a big part, with all the destruction hes causing for umbridge

This is Rik Mayall:


http://hpmovie.variety.ru/photo_archive/RikMayall.jpg

I would like to see Peeves. I think that it would be funny.

I would LOVE to see Peeves.

It wouldn't bother me whether Peeves was there or not. I'm already used to him not there.

yes of course! :p

after I first read the books I started thinking to myself where was Peeves? And I do wish he were in the movies too. I guess they have not added him for whatever reasons, and that he is just a good comedy relief for the books!

I know peeves isnt that important to the plot, but like come on, they hafta have him in the fifth movie when fred and george leave:( lol

I missed Peeves. I really wanted to see him in the movies.

I had a dream with Peeves in it, though. It was really weird. It was out of PoA, where Peeves is telling Dumbledore that Sirius slashed the Fat Lady. I thought Cuaron would put Peeves into the movie of PoA, but I guess not.

i think its a real shame they didnt put him in for some comic relief, especially for when the 5th movie eventually comes out! and rick mayall would have been AWESOME as peeves cuz he is so funny!

I was very dissapointed not to see Peeves in the movies. :sad: Some of the things that he does in the books have left me in stitches. I dont think JKR would have let Chris Columbus cut Peeves out of the films just because he did not like his charater. I think if Peeves was important to the plot, he would have been left in. Peeves is for entertainment purposes only, and boy is he entertaining !! I would still love to see him put in the films, but I dont think that will happen. If he is not in GOF, then I guess we'll just have to turn to the books to get are Peeves fulfillment.

probably time he's not really mentioned that much in the books anyways

Exactly my question. Where''s Peeves. :grumble:

This is just the kind of thing that makes me sooooo upset at the directors. I just hope they bring Peeves in the Ootp movie.

I know he can be a pain sometimes but he does a fantastic job in the Ootp. The pranks he plays on Umbridge and the way he makes her life miserable are just awesome. BRAVO PEEVES! :clap:

He's dead.

.....

Oh wait...

peeves was casted but cut- maybe he's not important enough- boo hoo

It would be nice to see him, but it would be very hard to put him in. The reason why he isn't in the movie is because it would be very expensive to do the special effects.


they did the other ghosts- it wouldn't cost that much- just a few smashed models. nothing new

At least we see what Peeves was going to look like in the games. I'd love to see him in OotP, at least hitting Umbridge with the walking stick.

But just as long as they keep the twins fabulous exit from Hogwarts, even without, "Give her hell for us, Peeves," I'll be happy.

I was hoping that they would add Peeves in PoA. There will be no "oh Potter your rotter" singing or no Fred or George yelling "give her hell from us Peeves". *sigh*. One can't have everything. Even though we didn't get a lot of things in the movies IMO :D.

Just because Peeves was not used before, it does not follow that they will not use him again.

However, any old ghost will do for OotP, and F&G can shout "Give her hell for us" to the students.

I would wish to see him, but I'll only get really mad if he's not in OotP, or if they don't put the exact part where Fred and George leave, that would kill me.

I hope they leave in Fred and George's flight. It was always the scene I invisioned best.

I hope they leave in Fred and George's flight. It was always the scene I invisioned best.
I agree. Its a shame about Peeves because I loved his scenes in OotP where he was creating mad havoc and blowing raspberries at Umbridge, it was easily one of my favourite parts of the book. Thats not to say he can't be introduced in the next movies though. Rik Mayall would certainly play him well - anyone remember "Drop dead Fred"?

It's such a defining moment in OotP when Fred and George yell to Peeves! I really don't think it can be cut out!!! Ugh, it was just so amazing, i would be TERRIBLY angered if it's cut out :grumble: :grumble:

And it just won't have the same meaning/impact if F&G yell to the students :no:

P.S. Does anyone know what this star thing on my post is? By how many days I've been here? SO confused lol :huh:

P.S. Does anyone know what this star thing on my post is? By how many days I've been here? SO confused lol :huh:
You get a twirly star for every year you've been on the forums.

Oh, hah, thanks much! :)

They need Fred & Georges grand exit & for them to yell "Give her hell from us Peeves" , not to the students. I mean as long as the scenes in there I guess I'll be ok, but it really just won't be the same without Peeves. And, I don't care how small his role is, it is a wonderful humorous one(like Fred & Georges) & Peeves should've been in the films from the begining. And, they also need Peeves for the scene in the hospital wing for the 6th movie with Kreacher & Dobby bickering.

i wanna see peeves as well..

i hope JKR realizes that she has now limited what she can do with peeves in book seven...he basically can't help harry at all, as it wouldn't make sense for peeves to suddenly show up in movie seven...

I wish he was kept in the movie, he was funny.

He's just going to show up and everyone will be like hey Peeves long time no see then gone forever.

Unfortunately they are keeping Peeves from the fifth movie so that means we won't see Fred and George's famous exit. Unless they do but it won't be the same without Peeves!

this is why I wish the movies were their own separate mini-series for each book instead of movies. You just can't adapt a book like GoF or OotP without cutting out a lot. But still that wouldn't explain him beign cut from the first three movies.

i havent seen him, but i really hope they put him in the 6th movie. hes really funny. expecially fred and georges exit. i hope they put that scene in :sigh:

i havent seen him, but i really hope they put him in the 6th movie.
Actually, HBP would be the worst time to introduce Peeves. He does much more in the previous books, and it would seem forced to put Peeves into a part that he isn't needed. Perhaps you meant OotP, but I still think they should keep Peeves out for the rest of the films. Those that haven't read the books will have no idea who Peeves is, and there is no time for a proper introduction with the bigger plot forming in books 5-7.

Fred and George can still say the famous line....perhaps to someone else, is all. I have no idea as to who...but I'm sure there's someone who will be addressed with "Give her hell from us!" It can still, somehow, be done.

He's still there. He's just never (and will never be) in the frame of the camera. :)

Fred and George can still say the famous line....perhaps to someone else, is all. I have no idea as to who...but I'm sure there's someone who will be addressed with "Give her hell from us!" It can still, somehow, be done.

yeah thats true. it really would be a bad time now that i put more thought into it. i just love that part of the book :)

Fred and George can still say the famous line....perhaps to someone else, is all. I have no idea as to who...but I'm sure there's someone who will be addressed with "Give her hell from us!" It can still, somehow, be done.

They could be addressing all the onlookers (all the students...), it doesn't necessarily have to be a particular person.

Actually, HBP would be the worst time to introduce Peeves. He does much more in the previous books, and it would seem forced to put Peeves into a part that he isn't needed. Perhaps you meant OotP, but I still think they should keep Peeves out for the rest of the films. Those that haven't read the books will have no idea who Peeves is, and there is no time for a proper introduction with the bigger plot forming in books 5-7.

I agree that there is no reason to introduce Peeves at all in the movies, as he never figures in either story or plot. However, by this reasoning, they should not introduce Luna in OotP because it is too late!


People are used to getting new characters in every film in a film series. James Bond never has the same love interest twice. Neither does Batman or Indiana Jones, for that matter. X-Men, Superman, Spider-Man, etc., all introduced new characters.

Moreover, people do not pay that close attention. They are watching Harry Potter for a story, not as a documentary of facts. They also do not remember the prior film except in the most general of details: for example, one of the more common complaints about GoF was that the movie never explains what Polyjuice Potion was. It had figured prominently in CoS 3 years before, but audiences simply did not remember that. After all, since then there had been 3 school years, 3 tax returns, a major election (or two, depending on the country), a war, multiple sports seasons, etc., etc. Harry Potter simply is not any more important than any other movie character to the vast majority of people who see the movie.


So, if Peeves were to be useful in OotP, HBP or VII, then they could include him. However, they would have to introduce him as if the audience has never seen him (which 95% of movies have to do with every character anyway, and which Harry Potter movies basically have to do with most of the cast each time).

Still, given that Peeves is not important to any of the plots or stories, there is no good reason to include him. Heck, even Columbus cut him in the end!

I found Peeves (http://cosforums.com/member.php?u=8). He's been surfing our forums all along.

Honestly, the character isn't that major. I will miss his saulute to the twins, but other than that, not a big loss.

I think he was cut from the films because the films are terrible and don;t do the books justice in the slightest. They dont even do harry potter justice.

However, by this reasoning, they should not introduce Luna in OotP because it is too late!
Well, Luna is a fairly main character in OotP, so they will have the time to introduce her well since she won't be in a five second scene. However, it would be pointless to waste time introducing Peeves when he would only say one line. I mean, one of the students could say "Look, there's Peeves the Poltergeist," but it sounds incredibly forced and corny as an introduction.

I would have like Peeves to have been in all movies, I know he's not a character who is important to the plot but Peeves is just hilarious and I think it would have added that extra bit of humour to the movies

when i saw the first two movies i hadn't read the books yet so i didn't know i was missing anything . once i'd read the books i thought peeves would have been cool but wasn't that bothered...but then i found out Rik Mayall was playing him!!! I am now seriously depressed and outraged! (Rik Mayall is my favourite actor and I think he would play peeves best) If Chris Columbus cut peeves' scenes because of the long running times he was a bit of an idiot because GoF and PoA both go way longer than the first two.

If Chris Columbus cut peeves' scenes because of the long running times he was a bit of an idiot because GoF and PoA both go way longer than the first two.

Not exactly.

PS/SS: 152 min
COS: 161 min
POA: 141 min
GOF: 157 min (consider how much longer the book GOF is compared to the book PS/SS)

Peeves was mentioned in the HP scene done for the Queen's party at the palace. Dan, er I mean Harry said something like 'Peeves was dropping red, white and blue eggs on everyone at breakfast'. If I'm not mistaken this is the first time Peeves has been mentioned in the movie world.

They have to give Peeves a bigger part in this one. I mean, he's the who chases off Umbridge, literally!

I would love to see Peeves, I hope they don't cut him yet again, however I doubt at this late date they will keep him.

I found Peeves (http://cosforums.com/member.php?u=8). He's been surfing our forums all along.

Honestly, the character isn't that major. I will miss his saulute to the twins, but other than that, not a big loss.
haha. that's cute.

so far, it hasn't been a huge deal that peeves wasn't in the movies this far. i really wish they hadn't cut him in the first place. his character has more "impact" in OotP because of the stark contrast between him and umbridge, and so it would be really great if they worked him in this movie. i doubt it though. if they can get around him, they probably will. :(

But-but-but-but-but... What about "Give her hell from us, Peeves"??? That's the best line in the entire book, they can't just cut that out! I agree 100% with Agraphia, Peeves is the one who almost literally drives Umbridge crazy! They can't just cut that! Columbus was dumb, Peeves is really cool, they'd better add him in... :grumble:

Oh, and I know this is completely unrelated, but btw, accioluminos, your icons are great! I love the Crouch Jr. one. :rotfl:

It really sucks that Peeves is cut from all movies. I mean come on! How can you cut out the Poltergeist?

Peeves never really has much of a role in the book other than to be just plain annoying. He never advances the plot in any way. I, for one, am glad that he was cut.

They have to give Peeves a bigger part in this one. I mean, he's the who chases off Umbridge, literally!

That is the kind of scene that gets cut. Although GoF got away with an overlong ending (13 minutes of movie after the climax is pretty outrageous!), OotP cannot risk that.

Also, they can simply have unnamed ghosts or students chasing Umbridge out. It could be sort of like the "Another Brick in the Wall Pt. II" from the Wall.



But-but-but-but-but... What about "Give her hell from us, Peeves"??? That's the best line in the entire book, they can't just cut that out!

Why not have them just say to the students at large: "Give her hell from us!" It will be just as effective if not more so.


Peeves is the one who almost literally drives Umbridge crazy! They can't just cut that! Columbus was dumb, Peeves is really cool, they'd better add him in...

Well, yes, Columbus was dumb, as demonstrated by the fact that he had no clue what was and what was not important to the first two stories. However, the mistakes that he made was to not cut characters like Peeves! For example, there was no reason to include Nearly Headless Nick or the other ghosts in the first two movies: they just wasted time. There was no reason to include the Whomping Willow or Knockturn Alley: they just wasted time. Peeves would have just wasted time, too.

Cutting Peeves is not even like Cutting Bombadil: it is more like cutting Daddy Twofoot.

I agree that there is no reason to introduce Peeves at all in the movies, as he never figures in either story or plot. However, by this reasoning, they should not introduce Luna in OotP because it is too late!
While I can agree that Peeves is not at all important to the storyline or plot I have to disagree about Luna. She may be a tad bit on the daffy side but I think her character will add a much needed levity to the film. And at the end when this odd young woman gives Harry such hope to see Sirius again, I just don't think it would be the same coming from one of the other characters.


Still, given that Peeves is not important to any of the plots or stories, there is no good reason to include him. Heck, even Columbus cut him in the end!
Columbus cutting peeves was about the only smart thing he did. As you said, The scenes with Nick and other ghosts could have easily been cut without and great loss to the storyline.

Why not have them just say to the students at large: "Give her hell from us!" It will be just as effective if not more so.
We might as well make it a triple. I think you have this right also. It is a classic line but it doesn't matter who it is delivered too. I would like to see them include Umbridge being chased from the castle somehow. What are your thoughts on that?

I know that Peeves isn't a very important character, but I would like to see him in future films. He is a very funny character and deserves at least at least one short scene, even if it is only for a few seconds! I hope to see the "Give her hell from us, Peeves" line in OotP!

I strongly agree. One of my favorite scenes in OotP is when Fred and George leave Hogwarts and I don't think the connection to Peeves should be left out.

Chris Rankin ( aka Percy Weasley ) said in PS they did film scenes with Peeves to be inserted in later on, such as when he is escorting the first years to their dorms early on in the movie. He was suppost to taunt Percy and the 'ickle first years' before he said the password to open the portrait. But as many had mentioned before Columbus scrapped the idea as he thought it was just filler and there was too much to go on with as it was. Chris on his website said that he was a bit sad the Peeves scenes were cut because he was in most of them and he was the main actor who interacted with the man who portrayed him ( the guy who played Fred in DROP DEAD FRED fame and THE YOUNG ONES tv series ) and so by dropping the Peeves storyline Percy as well lost a bit of screen time too.

Peeves would get in the way, the directors need to condense the story, and Peeves will just slow Harry down.

They could show him in the background dropping ink bottles on pple or something. I hate lame excuses like "it would just slow the movie down". Whats a couple seconds going to make a difference of?

I don't like Peeves, so I think it's good he's not in the movies. The only time I would like to see him is when Fred and George leave. "Give her hell for us, Peeves!" :rotfl:...sooooo funny

i miss peeves. he is a incredible character

Wow, Columbus actually cut out something! :clap:

I kid though. The movies have enough comic relief in them, and Peeves is more of a slapstick, which isn't that effective.

peeves is an important character in the books but i don't know if i would have missed him that mush. he got annoying after a bit and no one of course liked him. he was in the screenplay but not in the final cut. in a way i am almost glad that they left him out because it might have made the movies a bit annoying and perhaps worse.

i personally think that he plays a big role in book/movie 5 but they are probably not going to put him in because it would be really odd to just drop in a random carachter.

I don't like Peeves, so I think it's good he's not in the movies. The only time I would like to see him is when Fred and George leave. "Give her hell for us, Peeves!" :rotfl:...sooooo funny



i agree completly...

I wouldn't have minded if they had Peeves bopping in and out of the scenes, annoying people. I think he's a real asset in the twins' departure. I'm sure they could pull it off fine, but Peeves' presence (and that salute) would make it a whole lot cooler.

I wouldn't have minded if they had Peeves bopping in and out of the scenes, annoying people. I think he's a real asset in the twins' departure. I'm sure they could pull it off fine, but Peeves' presence (and that salute) would make it a whole lot cooler.
i was thinking the same thing. even if he is in only that one scene where fred and george tell peeves "Give them hell Peeves" would be amazing to have in the next book

They just deem him necessary and they think that the film's length is long enough. Too bad though, the movies would be a lot more enjoyable thanks to Peevs.

i was thinking the same thing. even if he is in only that one scene where fred and george tell peeves "Give them hell Peeves" would be amazing to have in the next book

It probably will be there, but without Peeves. F&G can just exhort the students instead.

I don't mind Peeves getting chopped too much. Lines have to be drawn somewhere when it comes to what can stay in the films - I also think that, if not handled properly, Peeves would be a rather annoying addition - think Dobby came across as too pesty in CoS?....

But I will admit, no Peeves = no personal favorite scene from PoA....when Lupin shot the gum up Peeves's nose, Dean Thomas said 'cool, sir' and Lupin replied 'Thank you, Dean'. I have no idea why, but I love that scene. Really wanted to see it on the big screen. But I can live without it.

One of the best moments in the books "Give her hell from us Peeves." won't be in the movie without Peeves. They should put him in the movies.

I know that Peeves hasn't been in the movies yet, but they HAVE to have him in the OOTP! He's about as much of a main character as Fred and George in the movie! He salutes Fred and George as they leave and he chases Umbridge out with said walking stick! I think that he just HAS to be in it!

Post what you think!

I would definately love to see him too and I have a feeling Yates has placed him in the film and is being hush-hush about it.

No, they won't put him in the films. For the non-readers it would be really strange if peeve's just showed up in like the fifth film, the director has to think about that. And then he had to have an introduction by someone and all, no, I don't think he will show up.

I really wanted to see peeves in the movies because he would make them more funny..

I really would like it if he would come out in the fifth movie. But I haven't heard anything yet. Would have loved to have seen him when Fred and Geroge leave Hogwarts and tell Peeves to give them hell. I think that would have been very funny to see.

I don't know but I am happy!!!!!

i really like peeves...

I think he's funny

Maybe the new director for OTP will squeeze Peeves in. The "Give her hell for us, Peeves" quote pretty much made that famous Wealey twins scene. Who knows? It's personally my favorite scene in all the books...

I know that Peeves hasn't been in the movies yet, but they HAVE to have him in the OOTP! He's about as much of a main character as Fred and George in the movie!

Fred and George are far from main characters: they are, at best, tertiary characters. Indeed, expect to see their roles expanded from the book. For example, there is no indication that Dobby will be in the movie. So, how will Harry find the Room of Requirement? F&G would be a great substitute for Dobby, and vastly less Jar-Jar like to boot.


No, they won't put him in the films. For the non-readers it would be really strange if peeve's just showed up in like the fifth film, the director has to think about that.

New characters come each movie. Luna Lovegood will be completely new. Moreover, most of the people won't remember that Peeves was not in the prior movies: they simply do not devote that much mental energy to Harry Potter.


Maybe the new director for OTP will squeeze Peeves in. The "Give her hell for us, Peeves" quote pretty much made that famous Wealey twins scene. Who knows? It's personally my favorite scene in all the books...


Again, just having F&G say: "Give her Hell from us!" to the crowd of students and ghosts will carry all of the same impact.

Where's Peeves?

Right behind you!

Chris Columbus didn't decide to film him.

well he better be in this next one, especially since he has a lot to do umbridge and making her stay at hogwarts a living hell

Fred and George are far from main characters: they are, at best, tertiary characters. Indeed, expect to see their roles expanded from the book. For example, there is no indication that Dobby will be in the movie. So, how will Harry find the Room of Requirement? F&G would be a great substitute for Dobby, and vastly less Jar-Jar like to boot.
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There should be more fred+george, but what indication is there that dobby wont be in?


Again, just having F&G say: "Give her Hell from us!" to the crowd of students and ghosts will carry all of the same impact.

Might do. But I think one of the important things about the scene is it shows how everyone is united against Umbridge by Peeves actually acknowledging F&G, when he never listens to anyone, so that should stay

I was suprised to find that Peeves wasnt in the films D: He does play an 'important' role [to the Wesley twins] when the twins leave. Will they cut that too? o.o;

If there has to be a character to go, Peeves is a pretty good choice, IMHO.

Yeah, I hate to say it but I'm not really bothered at all. Apart from the scene with the Weasleys leaving Hogwarts, I disliked Peeves intensely with a burning passion. I agree with confutatis, if someone had to go it should be him.

I never really cared for peves much. I don't think he would really work in the movies as well as he does in the books. He is good for comedy relief though.

I was just wondering if anyone knew any reason as to why Peeves was cut from both films?

On mugglenet.com (http://www.mugglenet.com/cast-nonhuman.shtml), it shows Peeves down in the cast list for both films (played by Rik Mayall) and yet he did not appear in either of them
Yeah, I wanted to see him in the movies! He is my favorite character!

awww, i wanted to see waht they made peeves look like. (I don't remember how the book describes him)

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Moreover, most of the people won't remember that Peeves was not in the prior movies: they simply do not devote that much mental energy to Harry Potter.
.I see your point but you forget...with Harry Potter, unlike 99% of adapted films, millions upon millions(talking about around the world) of casual movie goers have actually read the books at least once. And Peeves does stick out because of his absense in the films..


(I don't remember how the book describes him)

Annoying! :lol:

ummm i am just having a thought here.....someone told me that the reason they cut peeves is because the actor molested some of the kids on the set....just what someone told me!!!!!!:grumble:

I see your point but you forget...with Harry Potter, unlike 99% of adapted films, millions upon millions(talking about around the world) of casual movie goers have actually read the books at least once. And Peeves does stick out because of his absense in the films..

Oh, sure, millions have read the boks: but 10's of millions are seeing the films. Book readers probably are about 20% of the overall audience. The stats suggest that they are about 50% of the opening weekend audience, but a very small proportion after that. This makes sense: the fans rush out to see it, others see it when they get to it.

If we take reactions to GoF and PoA here as typical for HP fans, and those at Box Office Mojo as typical of general audiences (which include HP fans as some subset), then hardcore fans like us make up, at most, 15% of the audience, and probably closer to 10%. That still would be 4.5M hardcore fans in N. America, which is a lot when talking about books. It's not a lot when talking about movies.



ummm i am just having a thought here.....someone told me that the reason they cut peeves is because the actor molested some of the kids on the set....just what someone told me!!!!!!:grumble:

That is utter rubbish. I do not think that Rik Mayall has even played a child molester! Ah, his Flashheart character in BlackAdders' II and IV were nothing short of brilliant.....

I'm kind of shocked to find out there are actually people who like Peeves. I thought the purpose of that character was to be completely obnoxious and unfunny. Am I wrong?

ummm i am just having a thought here.....someone told me that the reason they cut peeves is because the actor molested some of the kids on the set....just what someone told me!!!!!!:grumble:


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but why isnt peeves in any of the movies? probably because he is just a little character hat doesnt really do anything that would change the whole plot of the book/movie
although they had to do some thinkin in GOF when harry was supposed to get stuck in one of the stairs that PEEVES messed up, for prof. moody to get the maruder's map, but still, peeves doesnt really do anything special to mess up the whole plot

this fellow has no chance to be seen on the film, ever! haha

I heard a rumour that Rik Mayall was originally cast for Peeves, but right before they started filming the first movie he had a motorcycle accident that ruled him out, and they didn't have time to find anyone else, so they just did away with the character all together.
However, I have recently heard another rumour that he will be in the fifth movie

They probably filmed him but will wait for all the movies to come out and then put him in a special edition version. :lol:

awww, i wanted to see waht they made peeves look like. (I don't remember how the book describes him)

...look up the actor they casted.




I love Peeves.
I hope to see him in the 5th film.
It's probably the last movie he has a chance in.

They did Dobby, Peeves wouldn't have taken too much....but then again, the bits you want are always deleted!

I really wanted to hear Peeves sing "Oh Potter, you rotter...." :(

I know this post was from ages ago but I always wanted to know if my tune of the song(as in the tune in my head) is close or very far from the proper one.

Oh and I want the bit where McGonagall says "It unscrews the other way" in movie 5!!

I was so bummed when Peeves wasn't in the movies. I know he's not significant, but his parts are funny and I would have liked to see how he the movies portrayed him.

Peaves is funny in the books he should have been in the movies. for those who only see the movies and don't read the books are seriously missing out.