Where Did Umbridge Get Her Quill?

I origanilly thought she got it from Knockturn Alley, but then I realized that probably fudge gave it to her.If you want to Know what I mean see my other article - fudge good or bad . Something else I want to know is if she got away from the centaurs and if she still has her quill. :huh:

I don't know whether or not she still has her quill, but she did get away from the centaurs. Remember at the end of the book, where we see her chased out of the school by Peeves? And that's after we see her in the hospital wing being scared out of her mind when Ron makes clicking noises (like hooves!).

I'm pretty sure she would have gotten it from Knockturn Alley. There's not really any reason for Fudge to have one; Umbridge, on the other hand, has the sadistic motivation.

I always thought it to be a Borgin and Burkes product. Then again, a person like her can't just waltz into there, being Ministry employee and all...and again, we're talking about Umbridge..

I'm with Silverstar on this one. She would have probably bought it from Knockturn Alley something as cruel as that could have only been purchased from a place like that.
Personally I don't think she would have got it from Fudge. I don't think Fudge is evil just running scared.

Knockturn Alley sounds like it would be a good place to get a quill like that since it's filled with dark stores. Who knows, maybe some Death Eaters have some. :shrug:

Knockturn Alley (it's the only place that would sell something as horrible as that quill!)

The title of this thread is supposed to be where, not were. :)

Maybe it was just a normal quill and she charmed it.

quill or no quill, she's still *EVIL*! hehe.. i think she bought it too at knockturn alley.

me too I think she bought it from Knockturn alley or maybe like what AllanTheGreat said maybe she charmed it

She definately just charmed it. why would you buy one when you can charm it.

Borgis and Burkes, that quill looks like it would be appropriate there.

Maybe she bought it off e-bay.

Maybe she bought it off e-bay.
:lol: I say she bought it in Knockturn Alley disguised.

Maybe she bought it off e-bay.
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I think that she got it from knockturn alley. Umbridge did not believe that Voldermort was alive and had returned so why couldn't she go into knockturn ally? She did not have a problem favoring students that were offspring of former (and present) Death Eaters. (Malfoy, Crabbe, Goyle).

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i dont think she would have risked sullying her reputation by going into knockturn alley. i also think she would have thought herself above such places. i have to say that i believe she charmed to be like that. i just cant see her in knockturn alley.

I think she got it from some dark arts shop that sells items used just to torture people

Could it be Satan??? :rotfl: Vivid memory of Saturday Night Live...the good ole days!!!

the black market?

I think either Knockturn alley or she enchanted it herself. Afterall she may be a very nasty witch but that doesn't mean she isn't powerful.

I'm starting to doubt that she went to Knockturn Alley. If she were caught there by a ministry official, she would be very embrassed. Even though she is very mean to Harry, she's still against Voldemort (or should be). I see only supporters of Voldemort really walking down that Alley. More likely, she could got it from a certain ministry friend. A very good friend of the minister in fact.... Hey, it's likely.

I really have no clue of where she could have gotten it from. It is possible that she could have gotten it from Fudge, but then where did he get it from? I dont think something of that sort came from Diagon Alley....perhaps Knockturn Alley, but not Diagon Alley.


It is possible that she could have charmed it, although I dont think she's that smart to come up with a charm for something like that....if she didnt buy it she probably hired someone to charm it for her

She definately just charmed it. why would you buy one when you can charm it.

She is a weak witch. I'm sure there is canon but i forget it :( . Sounds like a fairly advanced charm to me!

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I'm starting to doubt that she went to Knockturn Alley. If she were caught there by a ministry official, she would be very embrassed.
Maybe Borgin and Burke's has a mail order service or does private home visits for customers who would rather not be seen entering Knockturn Alley.

Sort of a Dark Arts tupperware party!

No telling where she got it but Knockturn Alley sounds just about right. I wonder what kind of bird the quill was made from?

Yeah, most likely Knockturn Alley. Although, I thought for a moment that even the quill would be too evil to be sold their, but I don't think the books have really told us about Knockturn Alley that much yet.

A Death Eater's present?
Evil item that hurts Harry? Probably Knockturn Alley. Maybe she's into the Dark Arts trade?
Here's a good conspiracy: Umbridge knows how to make these quills herself.

Probably some place we haven't seen yet, or more likely that we won't ever see. The magical world is a big place, and alot of people think if it's bad it's from Knockturn Alley, but if it's good it's from Diagon Alley. My guess is to where it came from would probably be some dinky shop like the one in Knockturn Alley though. That's just a base of comparison. There could be an uber amount of shops like it scattered throughout the UK.

I think she may have charmed it herself. Its kinda of like a respectable person going into an adult bookstore and feeling ashamed if anyone caught them. She might not want people to see her darker side

I agree that she might have charmed her wand herself. I wonder if we shall see more about her in the next books.

I think she may have charmed it herself. Its kinda of like a respectable person going into an adult bookstore and feeling ashamed if anyone caught them. She might not want people to see her darker side

I agree that she might have charmed it herself too. If she didn't then I think she might have got it from Knockturn Alley.

smells like dark magic... looks like dark magic... :evil: Knockturn Alley! :p

I thought maybe it was just a normal quill that she charmed.

I would have thought Knockturn Alley, it is dark enough to come from there....

Yeah, that's the other place I thought. Or ifher family is anything like Sirius' then it could be a heirloom

Maybe, she got it down Knockturn Alley or Spinner's end. She probley got it in Borgin and Burkes. She does seem to know some dark magic.

Probably a special gift from Fudge, who told her to use it on Harry if she had the chance. He's the one who was telling the press and the entire wizarding world that Harry was unstable and a liar.

i dont think she would have risked sullying her reputation by going into knockturn alley. i also think she would have thought herself above such places. i have to say that i believe she charmed to be like that. i just cant see her in knockturn alley.

Perhaps she bought it before becoming involved with the Ministry, that is, if she did indeed buy it at all. As to risking her reputation, I would think that sending two Dementors to Privet Drive would be much more of a risk than being caught in Knockturn Alley. Although it is still entirely possible that she did charm it herself.

I can't see her going down there either, she probably did charm it herself!!!

I origanilly thought she got it from Knockturn Alley, but then I realized that probably fudge gave it to her.If you want to Know what I mean see my other article - fudge good or bad . Something else I want to know is if she got away from the centaurs and if she still has her quill. :huh:
Wow, that would've sucked for fudge if anyone would've found out that he gave it to her (if he did I mean). They both would've been fired and things probably wouldn't have been so bad for Harry...o well, I wouldn't have cared. I HATE Fudge and Umbridge!:grumble:

I'd say it's either:
-Left over from Filch's whipping days
-Bewitched by Umbridge
-From Knockturn Alley

I'm pretty sure she would have gotten it from Knockturn Alley. There's not really any reason for Fudge to have one; Umbridge, on the other hand, has the sadistic motivation.

Yeah, I agree. Probably from Knockturn Alley, or who knows, maybe from Lucius Malfoy? Who knows what kind of friends this woman has, and that would be interesting to learn that one of Lucius' private items (the ones mentioned in CoS that would make him look bad) ended up in a member of the ministries hands.

Maybe she got it from the Ministry. It would be interesting if they kept it around for signing impotrant treaties and such, where both sides would sign in their own blood, or maybe just the side that's surrendering.

Who cares the cenataur's have it now and the quill's evil power has transferd to them and there going to rule the world........twitch..........twitch

Who cares the cenataur's have it now and the quill's evil power has transferd to them and there going to rule the world........twitch..........twitch
They already rule the world, the rest of us just don't know it yet. Them and their secret Heliopath armies...

She got the quill from nowhere else but Knockturn Alley. It's seems like a darks arts quill and the place is appropriate for objects like that.

I think it has a lot of dark magic in it, from what we have seen in Umbridge I don't think she would have a problem with doing the spells herself. She seems almost proud of the quill.

Maybe she bought it off e-bay.


Yeah, lol, does she watch the Fairly Odd Parents, too? 'Cause like every line in that show when Timmy is asked where he got something, he says internet.

Lol, sorry, had to say it.

It oculd be an inheritance, or a charm, but personally I think she bought it, but has had it for a long time.

I'm starting to doubt that she went to Knockturn Alley. If she were caught there by a ministry official, she would be very embrassed.
She could have gone to Knockturn Alley disguised by using Polyjuice Potion. That's my theory. She got someone's hair that she knew shopped in Knockturn Alley and went there as them and bought the quill. I think that for her to charm it herself is very unlikely, since that is probably extremely high levell dark magic. She isn't that smart.

i'd imagine from knockturn alley........... :evil:

Hmm, I think it could be a jinxed quill. It seems more likely then a top Ministry worker buying dark objects at Knockturn Alley.

i think she got it as a gift for getting the job from lucius malfoy he would probably do something like that knowing who the schools biggest troublemakers are (harry, fred, and george)

My guess is that there is Owl Order for governesses, teachers and home school products...I'm sure my 2nd grade teacher shopped at the same place (wicked, evil woman!). You can buy punishment quills, whipping rods and soap to wash out naughty students mouths! Come to that, Filch probably orders from them too.

I say she created it herself, or maybe it's an old form of torture that became out dated and she likes it still the same.

I don't think Umbridge would have the guts to go to Knockturn Alley. Knockturn Alley seems like it would be too scary/dirty for her. Not because she is above Dark Magic, but because the people she met there would be kind of dangerous and she would fear for her safety. I am leaning towards the pen being a gift from someone she knows. Maybe someone in the Ministry, not necessarily Fudge.

I don't think Umbridge would have the guts to go to Knockturn Alley. Knockturn Alley seems like it would be too scary/dirty for her. Not because she is above Dark Magic, but because the people she met there would be kind of dangerous and she would fear for her safety. I am leaning towards the pen being a gift from someone she knows. Maybe someone in the Ministry, not necessarily Fudge.

I don't agree with you. Umbridge is definately not a nice woman, and would be willing to go to such lengths to get a 'proper, ministry approved' way to punish her students. Otherwise, it might have been a gift from Crouch. :p

Who knows. There might have been a way to charm it in a way that it cuts into your skin, but leaves no scars...

I'm sure it's from the Knockturn Alley, she is evil enough to get something like that and you can get these stuff only from there. Anyone can get in there without being accused e.g. Hagrid, and Lucius, etc. And Lucius was in good terms with Fuge after all the gossips about the Malfoys, so Umbridge can easily get that quill from there.

I think she might have customised ir herself, she's not stupid, and she seems like the type who'd do that.

I have a theory that the quill wasn't just made to be cruel to school children. I think quills of that type were made to sign maical binding contracts, possibly of a less than honerable basis. Therefore I would hazard a guess that she purchased it in Knockturn Ally. Just my theory :D

I have a theory that the quill wasn't just made to be cruel to school children. I think quills of that type were made to sign maical binding contracts, possibly of a less than honerable basis. Therefore I would hazard a guess that she purchased it in Knockturn Ally. Just my theory :D

I would have to agree about the binding contract usage. :tu:

ever considered that she could make it herself?

ever considered that she could make it herself?
Of course she could have. She probably could have purchased it at Knockturn Alley as well. If the theory about it originating from the need to "sign in blood" as a binding contract is true, she could have even picked it up at the ministry - surely it would be outdated, but I would imagine politicians would have a need for that sort of protection when making deals or being sworn into office. However, this is a bit of a moot point as I doubt we will ever get an answer or see the quill again. :)

I think that Umbridge has dark ties, but I'm not sure if her quill is straight outta Knockturn Alley. I think the binding magical contract theory is interesting; something like that could possibly have come from the underbelly of the Ministry.

Maybe it was just a normal quill and she charmed it.

That's my thinking, but now that you guys point it out... it could be a bought product from a Dark Shop.

I think she charmed it.

Hey...omg Star I Love Ur Icon! But I Do Agree With Allan, She Prolly Charmed It...or Bought It In Some Quill Shop....its Sinister Yes But Still

Hmmm good question. I think that like some other people said either che charmed it her self or she bought it in Knockturn alley. I also thought it was an interesting point about how possibly it is used for binding not so legal magical contracts.

I've wondered this before. I like the idea of it being an outdated use of making contracts. But why would she need it at Hogwarts? I've just thought, could she have made a contract with Willy Widdershins, the person who overheard them at the Hogshead? She could've made a contract with him to spy on Harry while at Hogsmead and she would, somehow, get him out of paying a fine or going to Azkaban for whatever he done. I mean, they were going on about going to the Hogshead for a few days, anyone could've heard about the group and told Umbridge.

Perhaps umbridge got her quill from like borgins or burkes shop. they do have some really evil and creepy stuff in there so it's a possiblity. umbridge could have gotten it through another wizard or something, who knows.

she probably either made it or stole it from the ministry.

most likely Nockturn ally or some were like that.

She might have just bought a normal quill and bewitched it herself or had somebody else do it. Otherwise, she probably bought it in Knockturn Alley.

She either made it magical, got it from Knockturn Alley or from the Ministry of Magic. =D

I think Fudge gave it to her but he bought it illegaly in Knockturn Alley and gave it to Umbridge to torture Harry with on purpose >.<

My guess is Borgin and Borkes

She probably either bought it from somewhere in Knocturn Alley or bewitched it that way. either way, that quill makes me mad.

I think she might have customised ir herself, she's not stupid, and she seems like the type who'd do that.

Though I can see her making that herself, I am going to have to argue that she is a bit if not a lot stupid :lol:. No seriously, I think she might've gotten it at a dark shop. Perhaps a gift. We'd have to know what her background was to really pinpoint what type of people she hangs around with generally. Either she made it herself or she got it at a dark shop; perhaps Knockturn Alley.

I'm guessing (like everyone else) Knockturn Alley or she bewitched it herself

I think she just bewitched a normal quill but she had to have used some dark magic to do it, very possibly illegal dark magic.

I also guess Borgin and Burkes or somewhere else in Knockturn Alley.

But, of course she could have bewitched it herself.

I bet she just bought it at a normal quill store. It must have been very expensive, tought. If it was not on a store, the Ministery might use them as law enforcement techniques and she just "borrowed" one.

I bet she just bought it at a normal quill store. It must have been very expensive, tought. If it was not on a store, the Ministery might use them as law enforcement techniques and she just "borrowed" one.

Yeah I agree with that. Or Knockturn Alley, like everyone else.

She probably just bought at some place like Borgin and Burkes. I doubt it is extremely difficult to find a blood quill somewhere in Knockturn alley.

I think it much more likely that she charmed it herself. After all, she did take it upon herself to order the dementors after Harry. It just fits with her overall personality. Oh, and she did not escape from the centaurs- Dumbledore went into the forest and retrieved her.

Maybe she got it from a vampire.

i like the theory that fudge gave it too her, thats a fantastic theory. In OoTP fudge was so anti harry that it wouldnt suprise me.... but then again lee jordan had to experience the quill too....

I'm guessing she charmed it with something she made up. As a ministry official she can't exactly waltz down Knockturn Alley. Though I wonder if this really significant or if we're just obsessive?

Maybe Lucius Malfoy bought it and gave it to her? I mean he's always at the MOM.

Probably borgin and burkes but what if she found it on the ground when she was walking somewhere somewhere and she picked it up, used it, and discovered what it could do? Mabye then she thought she could use it for her evil child abuse:lol:

At first I decided Umbridge wasn't competent enough to charm the quill because it seems like a complicated charm. Then I remembered she knew the cruciatus curse which requires power so she would be powerful enough. Then I remembered she never actually used the curse so that could just be talk. But either way it still associates her with the dark side (dun dun dun). So I'd say she got it in knockturn alley via liaison or disguise.

I have a theory that the quill wasn't just made to be cruel to school children. I think quills of that type were made to sign maical binding contracts, possibly of a less than honerable basis. Therefore I would hazard a guess that she purchased it in Knockturn Ally. Just my theory :D

i like that theory, fyi.

I have always had the impression that Umbridge was not very gifted when it came to magical ability. This leads me to believe that as many have suggested, that she aquired the quill in Knockturn alley or someplace similar. It also crossed my mind that perhaps she has a friend that is capable of creating an item like this.

I don't think Umbridge got it from Knockturn Alley, because I don't think she is on the Dark Side. I mean sure, she is completely horrible, but I don't think she is working for Voldemort. I could not see her walking into Knockturn Alley, she would be a bit out of place with her fluffy hair bows and pink sweaters. She probably bought the quill off some random person, they have street vendors in places occasiounally. She might have bewitched it herself though. Even though she doesn;t seem the type to be able to do that herself, there is probably a lot more to her than you would think. She probably has to be somewhat smart to have got on the Wizengamot, so I think she bewitched the quill herself.

I'm thinking Knockturn Alley, or somewhere equally as shady.

I think she payed a random witch/ wizard to go into Borgin and Burkes and buy it, and some other dark objects, to, you know, keep her reputation clean.
Maybe it was a normal quill which someone cursed, i'm thinking her.

I think she'll have gotten it from Knockturn Alley. That doesn't mean she's evil for going down there, because remember Hagrid went there for Flesh-Eatting Slug Repellent in Chamber of Secrets.

She could've bewitched it herself, but I get the feeling that that would be almost illegal considering how important her job at the ministry is. Sure, there are corrupt people in any Government but to bewitch a quill to purposely hurt someone? It's not a good role model.

I'm sure it's quite possible to enchant a quill to do something like that is it possible that she made the quill herself. After all we have seen that she's quite able to perform decent magic.

It's probably something completely illegal that she maybe stole from the Ministry - You know, perhaps someone else made it and it was confiscated by the Ministry, and like the police, they kept it tagged in a room somewhere and she stole it to use for her own evil doing - terrorising school kids!

It is possible that Umbridge stole the quill, but I doubt it, it's a big step from breaking ministry regulations to breaking laws.
It is probable though, I think, that Fudge didn't know about the quill, the whole 'what he doesn't know won't hurt him' thing

Well we seem to all agree that it was one of the following:

She stole it from the ministry
She bought it in Knockturn Alley
She bewitched it
Fudge gave it to her

In my opinion she bought it in Knockturn Alley. We know she's not opposed to playing dirty, we already know that she risked the life of more than one person when she sent the dementor's to Privet Drive, and then attempted to have Harry expelled for something she knew he was innocent of.

It is possible that Umbridge stole the quill, but I doubt it, it's a big step from breaking ministry regulations to breaking laws.
It is probable though, I think, that Fudge didn't know about the quill, the whole 'what he doesn't know won't hurt him' thing

Maybe because she works for the Ministry she didn't see it as breaking the law; she does seem to have a superiority complex. So in that respect she may have felt she had the right to 'borrow' the quill. But of course there are many places where she could have taken it from.

I think that she either got it from the Ministry or she had possibly made it herself. It's hard to say because it could have come from so many places.

I always thought it to be a Borgin and Burkes product. Sounds like a Knockturn Alley product to me.
Then again, a person like her can't just waltz into there, being Ministry employee and all...and again, we're talking about Umbridge..I think that she could. A Ministry official would be able to "acquire" it as it could be a necessary (!) item for her important role in Hogwarts.

Umbridge still makes my blood boil. lol. I imagine she either got it from Knockturn Alley, or it's something that a member of the ministry confiscated and she happened to get her hands on it. There is always the possibility Filch lent it to her too. I wouldn't put it past him.

I origanilly thought she got it from Knockturn Alley, but then I realized that probably fudge gave it to her.If you want to Know what I mean see my other article - fudge good or bad . Something else I want to know is if she got away from the centaurs and if she still has her quill. :huh:



I assumed that her quill was a normal quill, except bewitched to do nasty things. She could easily have bewitched it herself.

It could have also come from Umbridge digging around in Filch's filing cabinet of stuff confiscated from students. Who knows, a Slytherin may have had his/hers confiscated way-back-when. As Fred and George proved, Filch didn't clean out that drawer too often :D

Snape did try using a spell to make the marauder's map reveal its secrets, so we can at least deduce that finding the charm or spell which gives an object its properties is possible. And even if Umbridge did not possess the capabilities to reveal the spell, then perhaps one of the other, more intelligent profs did it for her (with great distaste, I might add).

Another possibility is Gringott's. Now I know it's far-fetched, seeing as Umbridge hates anything which has human intelligence but isn't human. But Gringott's is THE wizard's bank. Perhaps Umbridge applied for a loan at Gringott's, had to use a similar quill to sign the paperwork, and she went on to charm a regular quill to do the same thing.

My over-inflated 2 cents.

Well personally, I always assumed that she charmed it to do it's nasty work. :P I can't imagine even Fudge having something like that. I think she probably came across the spell in some strange spellbook and liked it.
I'm not very creative lol but I don't really think she went to KnockTurn Ally.
She seems like she would hate to be seen there, for the sake of her position and her pride. She is very proud of herself and imagine the headlines: UMBRIDGE CHANGED SIDES? - CAUGHT IN KNOCKTURN ALLY! or something like that.

She probably got it as a gift from Rita Skeeter!....lol
Well she does seem to be a DARK witch,She might of bought it from a place that sells DARK objects!...like Borgins!

I don't think it's true to say thet she wouldn't break laws or risk tarnishe=ing her reputation - she sent a couple of dementors into a muggle suburb to de-soul on of the most prominent people i wizard history, didn't she? I she has the balls to do that, goodness knows what else she's capable of. The mere fact that she is prepared to use such a quill shows this. I think we've got more to learn about Umbridge.

I think she bought the actual quill at Scrivenshaft's in Hogsmeade, and then charmed it.

Borgin and Burkes sounds like a good place to me.

That's a good question... I doubt that it's entirely legal... at least to use it on kids....

I think that even though she's with the Ministry of Magic, she has some issues...

What are the chances she bewitcheds the quill herself? She wouldn't have gotten it from Fudge; why would he have one? She wouldn't have gotten it in Borgin and Burkes; she IS, after all, Ministry...

Then again, Lucius Malfoy has Ministry ties. Maybe she's secretly an underground bad guy, although I wouldn't think she'd quite be a death Eater.

Maybe its one of those cursed items, like the ring. So what ever a person writes with it will be have a permanant place in that person's life.

Or maybe that idiot fudge gave it to her to deal with troublesome student like [to him and her] Harry.

I think she charmed the quill herself. Not that i dont think it's nasty enough for Borgin and Burkes but i cant see it having a use other than the lines so dont think they would want it.

She put a spell on a normal quill

Maybe she did get it from Fudge or perhaps she invented it herself. Well, maybe she's not that talent. Maybe she could've gotten from somewhere that sells Dark Arts things besides Knockturn Ally. Perhaps she could've gotten from somewhere in Hogmeade. :shrug:

Given that she's such a high-ranking Ministry official, I doubt she walked down Knockturn Alley. Imagine if Rita Skeeter saw! (Well, that'd be a good thing to expose, eh?)

She probably had some young ministry intern go there for her. Or she made the quill herself with a spell she had deep down in her black soul.

I think she got it from Ollivander or any normal wandmaker. You can do anything you want with a wand, it's not evil or something by itself. If you want to do bad magic then you use bad/evil spells, if you want to do something good you use good spells. The wand chooses the wizard, but I don't believe a wand has an evil will.

I think she got it from Ollivander or any normal wandmaker. You can do anything you want with a wand, it's not evil or something by itself. If you want to do bad magic then you use bad/evil spells, if you want to do something good you use good spells. The wand chooses the wizard, but I don't believe a wand has an evil will.

I think you are misunderstanding, we are discussing her magical quill not her wand.

I think to be senior undersecretary to the minister you have to be a pretty good witch/wizard and pretty smart. therefore, it is my belief that while thinking of harry's detention, she thought up this idea and enchanted the quill.

The quill seems to be a rather dodgy object, so she probably got it in Knockturn Alley. It could also be an heirloom.

The quill seems to be a rather dodgy object, so she probably got it in Knockturn Alley. It could also be an heirloom.

I agree completely. Either its from Knockturn alley, or she is familiar with the Dark Arts and she bewitched it. It could also be an item from the Malfoys. There is no way it could serve any purpose for good and I simply don't trust Umbridge.

Yeah, Borgin & Burkes is my guess!

Or the 'dark section' of Scrivenshafts ;)

I think you are misunderstanding, we are discussing her magical quill not her wand.

I must get my eyes checked :grumble:

Anyway I think she might have created herself, I am sure it's possible to make your own quill. Only other option is somewhere like Knockturn Alley or in another country.

Seems like something they's sell at Borgin and Burkes to me...

I think umbridge is on voldomorts side with fudge because in the 3rd book there is macnair and hes a death eater

She could of bewitched it herself, or she could of bought it in Knockturn Ally.

I think its likely she put the charm on it herself because no one else would have any practical use for it.

...and where can I get one too? (just kidding, really!) ;)

i bet thath she did get it from knockturn alley.. i mean y would anyone want a quil that would engrave something in the person's hand who is using it. i definatly think that it was from knockturn alley.

me thinks she just charmed a normal quill (kudos to AllanTheGreat), using a modified and or toned down version of a combination of the cruteaceous (pardon the spelling) curse, the severing (or Cutting) charm and a healing charm.

I think that Umbridge just modified the quill when she became a Professor; keep the students in line :evil: I mean, where could you buy something like that, besides perhaps Borgin and Burkes, and I doubt that she would ever go there.

I thought she might have gotten it from Knockturn Alley too.

No, no, no, Umbridge would'nt have bought the quill. Something that diabolical must have been born of Umbridge's personal despicableness. Therefore, she blew up a baby peacock, took a feather, dipped it in worcestershire sauce, and charmed it.

Why would she have a problem going down to knockturn alley even if she is in the ministry Lucius Malfoy goes down there frequently and was highly respected and even Hagrids been down there so she would hardly be sacked if someone saw her there

So the Worcestershire sauce is the key then? Good catch!:lol:

Worcestershire sauce is yummy :)

I think that she bought it in a normal shop and charmed it

yep! May be and I think she can do some dark magic well.

Probably. She is sooo evil...(but not Voldemort evil).

Somewhere in Knockturn Alley? I don't think it was Borgin & Burkes because it seems to inconspicous for them. B&B seems to sell more obvious Dark items. Like cursed hanging rope and Hands of Glory.

I don't think she charmes it herself because I get the impression that she's not really very good at magic. Is that just me? We hardly ever see her perform magic and when she does, it's never very powerful magic.

Somewhere in Knockturn Alley? I don't think it was Borgin & Burkes because it seems to inconspicous for them. B&B seems to sell more obvious Dark items. Like cursed hanging rope and Hands of Glory.
Another good idea..
We hardly ever see her perform magic and when she does, it's never very powerful magic.

unfortunately she can do Curico curse as she was about to do it on Harry.

She might have had someone shady (someone like Willy Widdershins) purchase it for her to make it harder to trace back to herself. I agree with others that she doesn't seem competent enough to have charmed it herself.

Perhaps someone like Dung? I agree that it seems to inconspicuous for B&B but it seems to me to be right up Dung's street.

knockturn alley or somewhere like that an di dont think that kill is ministry approved.

I think she may have bewitched it herself.

knockturn alley I think, there seems to be some dark magic behind that quill.

she probably got her quill from knockturn alley and yes she did get away because we read that ron was having fun teasing her lol

I expect that she purchased it from Borgin and Burkes...

yeah borgin and burkes sell this kind of nasty items...