Your Reaction to Cedric's Death

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?

Were you saddened by it?

Shocked?

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?

Initially, I wasn't bothered by his death -- just relieved it wasn't a major character's death. However, upon subsequent reads, I realized how much his death has meant and how it has affected other characters.

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?
I was a bit stunned but that's all.

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?
Perhaps.

Were you depressed?
I was a bit sad, but certianly not depressed.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?
No - but I will be rereading it again before book 5, so it might change.

The thing that got me most about Cedric's death was how Harry took it. Harry's guilt in the hospital wing when he broke down and Mrs. Weasley's arms is what got me. I felt bad for Cedric's parents, and sad for Hufflepuff.

I was like... "Oh, OK" at first, but by Dumbledore's "Remember Cedric" speech I was sad :(

I was horrified by Cedric's death, it was worse than all the others Voldemort killed in Goblet of Fire, because to a small degree we had gotten to know Cedric, but not the old man or the missing witch. Whereas to show evil AS evil, I think it was necessary, it was still chilling.

i thought it was sad esp. because no one's ever died in hp and because he was so loved :bow: and nice :)

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?

Almost the way Harry felt at first, really - numb. Shocked sadness, with more shock than sadness, but with no real reaction, just cold. It's hard to explain. I had known that someone was going to die, and that it had to happen sooner or later, but there was no warning, and it was almost painless. I'm like that towards most deaths, but this was an extreme.

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?

Hardly. Death is death, no matter the subject. I was less affected than I would have been by one of the larger characters, because it feels like I'm closer to them, but the death was a death.

Were you saddened by it?

I've covered it, but yes. A teen died, seconds after we see his best side. That's enough for me.

Shocked?

Covered that.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?

Not quite. I'm a little less detached than I was originally, but it's still sort of empty. It's something that just shouldn't have happened. We all know it, but that's the easiest way to explain it.

I must admit I cried. It was sudden and not something I expected. As for my reaction changing: only that I wasn't shocked and therefore didn't cry. I actually got to like Cedric, so it was a little devastating when he died. Had he been a more minor character, I probably still would've upset, but not quite as much.

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?

**I felt horrified. I didn't want to read on, though I couldn't help it.

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?

**Of course not! He's like, the perfect guy. So sad to see him go.

Were you saddened by it?

**I cried!

Shocked?

**Incredibly. In the happy little, slightly demented Potter-world, a death was a little unexpected. Oddly enough, a good change.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?

**Yes, o course. I still tear up, though.

It was not so much that it was Cedric dying, it was just unexpected that JKR would kill one of the characters, that was what shocked me. I had to read over it again to make sure i was right. It was just so sudden.

I tend to be a tad weird when I read books. Usually, when I get to the middle of a book I stop where I am and start reading some of the last couple of chapters (not the entire chapter, just a few pages into it). Then I'll go back to where I was, read on. Then I'll stop again and read the very last sentence of the book (sometimes the last paragraph, but that's about it). So anway, when I was reading GoF, I stopped (I think even before the school champions were announced), and read one of the last chapters. It's when Harry escapes Voldemort and returns to Hogwarts. I read that someone died (but I didn't figure out who. I wasn't paying *that* much attention) and was like, "Oh." So when I actually get to that part it was pretty much like, "Ohhhhhhhhhh. Cedric dies. Hmmmmmm."

**is gonna try her best not to do that again with OotP**

:p

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?

More shocked than anything. Through various grapevines I had heard that a character would die but I certainly didn't expect Cedric to die. I suppose I was rather disbelieving at first.

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?

Erm, now that I reflect on it, I don't think it bothered me too much...initially. I had been attempting to "work out" Cedric's character for the majority of GoF (I was trying to determine whether he had a sinister side), so I hadn't grown attached enough to the character to be deeply affected by his death.

When I re-read GoF now understanding that Cedric really is just a nice fellow it affects me more. The sheer magnitude of what Cedric's death represents puts it all in perspective for me.

Were you saddened by it?

Initially, not really. Even Dumbledore's speech to the students didn't make me particularly sad.

On my subsequent readings, however, it saddened me. Especially when he asks Harry to take his body back to his parents. Meep.

Shocked?

I suppose so. I wasn't totally overwhelmed with shock but sufficiently surprised.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?

I become sadder the more times I read about Cedric's death and the subsequent events involving Voldemort, Harry, the Death Eaters and Priori Incantatum.

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?
I was pretty shocked and just didn't expect it. And I was a little surprised that she didn't talk more about it just then, or have Harry cry or anything. It was just said so matter-of-factly.

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?
I'm not sure.

Were you saddened by it?
Not immediately, but by the time Harry got back to Hogwarts and everyone was screaming "Cedric's dead!" I could feel the tears building up. And then by Dumbledore's speech at the end, I was in tears.

Shocked?
Sort of.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?
Definitely, as I explained in the third question. And like rotsiepots said, the second time I read the book, it seemed more sad.

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?
I honestly remember not noticing that sentence because it only had three words. "He was dead." I thought it was something rather unimportant. But when I realised he had died I had to retrace where it said it.

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?
I have to say, yes, I was unaffected. It hardly bothered me. I wasn't a Cedric fan because Harry trusts him, then the next minute he doesn't.

Were you saddened by it?
Only at Dumbledore's speech. Powerful words.

Shocked?
Only because it was so unexpected.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?
Of course. I realised the way it all fitted in, matking the beginning of the end.

I was in tears. Cedric is the guy we all know. He is Ted, who used to sit behind me in History, he is the guy I chat with by my locker, he is the baker at where I work.

He is the jock with a heart, the one popular guy who is a genuinely nice, and he was killed. He was going to grow up and marry Cho, have 3 kids and a pet dog, play quidditch for England and live a happy life.

But now he is dead, and everything is changed. I cried for him, and what he represents. Everything is changed now because if the purity and goodness in the world, the simplicity and happiness without complexity can be destroyed, then can there be any hope.

I cried for Cedric, because he was good, and he was hope, and now he is gone. So what hope is there left?

I almost cried reading that post, Justin!

I think, in a certain way, the death of a minor character might be more affecting than a major one. Think of the people you say hello to when you meet them, but don't know very well. They just seem part of the scenery, so you don't think of them as three-dimensional people, or as mortal people, as you do about your friends and relatives. So it's a real shock when they're not around any more.

Actually I didn't feel quite that way about Cedric, but his death was shocking because it was so pointless and callous.

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?
Nothing to do with him being a trivial character, but I was barely affected because the setting was just so exciting. I wanted to read on.

Were you saddened by it?
Not particularly. Like I said, that moment was so gripping it was hard to be too thoughtful. The death of the old man Frank Bryce disheartened me more.

Shocked?
I wasn't shocked that she included the death, we'd already seen one after all. I was shocked that he died with as little drama as possible. It was a cold death. He didn't get to fight nobly or not to defend himself. That's harsh stuff for a children's book. I love it!

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?
No, Frank's death still disturbs me more. He wanted to fight but doesn't get the chance. Voldemort toys with him first, that's just dreadful. At least Cedric went without the attitude from Voldemort. And we saw the story through Frank's eyes for a while. Harry's dream followed him. But nobody cares about poor ol' Frank.

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?
I was shocked mainly because of the way JKR wrote it. They were nowhere, Voldemort showed up and bang Cedric is dead.

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?
Nope, It was serious business because it was the moment where the whole wizard world was entering in a dark period.

Were you saddened by it?
I cried the three first times I read the sentence 'Harry, please bring my body back to my parents' or something like that, because not a single parent should have to bury his/her child. A nightmare not even my worst enemy would have to go through.

Shocked?
yes.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?
I didn't cry after three times but still found the whole thing very sad.

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?
He was a useless pretty boy! No really it was upsetting he died but I was more upset when Frank died in the begining. Now that guy was cool.

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?
No.

Were you saddened by it?
Yeah but after the first read I was used to it.

Shocked?
Yes. I didn't read spoilers back then so I was unaware someone was going to die.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?
Yup. It's not like 'Of Mice and Men' where I hope things get spontaneous and change. I've accepted Cedric dies.

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?

Numb, probably because I'd had a little time to prepare (see below).

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?

Not unaffected, no. But I admit I was relieved he wasn't someone I knew and liked better (i.e. Fred or George).

Were you saddened by it?

A little, but it was the sort of sadness you feel when you hear about something bad that's happened to a friend of a friend--more abstract than personal.

Shocked?

No. I'd heard the rumors about a character dying, and from the moment he and Harry touched the Portkey, I sensed he was doomed.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?

No, not really. If anything, Dumbledore's speech lessens the effect for me--I feel the sentiment in it is laid on too thick. Cedric's own words (or rather, his echo's) and Harry's reactions (as others have said) are more powerful.

i was shocked and the way they killed him. i mean it ws like 1, 2 boom he was killed. and he didnt have a clue

I was also shocked I just couldn't believed at first I was hoppeing him not to be really death or something but when I discovered he really was I felt really sad especially because of the way that Harry felt about it

Actually I was surprised by the suddenness of his death but I wasn't shocked. On the original series Star Trek if someone was killed on an away mission for being in the wrong place at the wrong time, the person usually had a red shirt. IMHO Cedric Diggory served that purpose in GoF.

I was shocked and very saddened by Cedric's death. I cried when Dumbledore made his speech about remembering Cedric. The amazing thing is, this becomes more and more poignant to me every time I read this part of the book. (Hopefully, I don't sound like too much of a sap).

I didn't believe it at first. I had to ask others who had read it, If he was really dead.

I thought how could he be dead?

Everyone confirmed it. I still thought that maybe he was just knocked out.

So I guess there was shock yes and I did cry about it. I didn't get depressed, I think that he'll show up again.

I was totally shocked at first, it took awhile to sink in. Harry and Cedric were just transported somewhere bizzare and then suddenly Cedric was dead, it was a bit much to take all at once. I couldn't believe that he had done, I like Cedric. The page of Dumbledore's speach of 'remember Cedric' is all smudged because I still cry every time I read that!

I was completely shocked by Cedric's death. I had to stop and read it again just to make sure it had really happened. I didn't get upset initially because I was worried about Harry facing Voldermort. It was when Cedric asked Harry to take his body to his parents that I began to cry. Then when Harry is dealing with Cedric's death, and Mrs. Weasley is holding him like a mother I started crying again. But it was not until Dumbledore gave his "remember Cedric Diggory" speech that I really lost it. I had to put my book down because I could not see through my tears (I am an very emotional person).

I still cry when I read the books especially when Mrs. Weasley is comforting Harry and during Dumbeldore's speech.

I was sweating and playing with my lip. All of a sudden Cedric dead. I started to cry and then I whiped away my tears. I still can't belived he died. I'm glad Harry didn't die.

I was totally unaffected by his death because it was such a shock I felt numbed by it :(

It has been too long since I first read the GoF, but the last time I read it, I cried. I had come to like Cedric more each time I read GoF. So I got sadder each time I read his death. I've cried a couple of times.

This may sound nasty, but Cedrics Death was necessary.
It brought it home to the reader, and more importantly Harry just how dangerous Voldemort really is.

I was so shocked because he just seemed like such a nice guy that everyone loved. I cried like a baby. Then when his ghost told Harry to bring his body back to his parents, I cried even harder, then whenever anyone mentioned his parents I cried even harder than that. It totally broke my heart, especially when Harry wouldn't let go of his body after being transported back. Oh and then with Cho, that was really sad too; almost as sad as thinking about Cedric's poor parents. :'(


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It certainly came as a shock, I'll say that much.

i was pretty much horrified at cedric's death...i actually re-read that part like three times before i could go on. and then i started thinking, "great, now everyone's gonna blame harry for cedric's death!" i liked cedric quite a bit. he had every reason to dislike harry for being the fourth champion but he was always decent with him and dumbledore's speech towards the end made me teary eyed. you know, who really got on my nerves was cedric's dad. he wasn't the nicest person. :rasp:

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?

I actually found it funny in a very morbid way. Voldemort's choice of words - Kill the Spare." - was cold, cruel, dismissive & completely fitting. He could care less about who the other boy with Harry was & that type of action is why he's referred to as "He-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named."

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?

Totally. I don't feel I really got to know Cedric so I didn't really care.

Were you saddened by it?

No. I only felt bad when Harry started feeling guilty in the hospital.

Shocked?

Yes, but in a good way. I'm glad JKR didn't cop out with Voldemort. She's always said Voldemort was the most evil wizard ever - and she showed us why.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?

No.

this may be disturbing but to be honest i didnt like the guy the only thing he ever did for harry was help him with the egg clue it didnt matter to me that he died really...

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?

Were you saddened by it?
Of course.

Shocked? Yep. That was my first reaction.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings? The intensity of the shock and sadness subsided.

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?
I was sort of stunned by the fact that it was so sudden. I had a feeling that he was going to die before it happened, but I was trying to suppress those feelings because I didn't want him to be the one who was killed. When I finally got to that part, I had to read it over again a couple of times because it just wouldn't sink in.
Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?
Not really. I thought he was a pretty significant character, considering he was somewhat of a rival to Harry.
Were you saddened by it?
Of course! Cedric was one of those kind, decent people who just happened to get in the way of Voldemort, and so he was killed. I was really sad when I read about him dying, but I cried a lot when Harry met with Cedric's parents, and when Dumbledore gave his speech during the End of the Year Ceremony.
Shocked?
Sort of. I was kind of expecting his death, but it was still very sudden.
Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?
Not really. Of course the shock has worn off, but I still cry every time with each re-reading, especially during the parts where he is still alive because I know what is going to end up happening to him later.

I was surprised at first. I couldn't believe JKR would actually kill off a kid. That chapter's pretty scary to begin with. To have Ced die on top of the chopped off hand and the blood and the death eaters was a bit much. It could all give kids nightmares.

I think she could have just had him stunned or seriously injured.
It wouldn't have changed what happened to Harry. He could've still brought Ced's body back if he was only knocked out. It still would've been dramatic considering how exhausted HP must have been after task 3 and the Voldie wand battle thingy. I could see a kid still just breaking down in Mrs. Weasley's arms even if Ced hadn't died. I've only read it once, so I don't remember what DD said about Harry in the great hall when he spoke of Ced. I think he was still in the infirmary??
Anyway, yes, it was sad Cedric died. Though a relatively minor character, I think it will haunt HP for a long time.

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?

To be frank, I felt a little removed from the author. There were so many times death could have struck Neville, Ron, Hermione, ect., but it never happened. Then Cedric died. I was a little startled at such a bold move by JK.

However in retrospect, something horrible had to kick off the return of Voldermort and that victim could be neither overly attatched to the reader, nor overly removed from the reader. I think the choice was a sure check-mate to raise a heightened awareness of Voldermort's pure evil without causing the reader overwhelming grief.


Were you saddened by it?

A little sad. I am a parent and I felt for Cedric's family.

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?
I was absolutely shocked. I had to read it twice to make sure I understood.

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?
I wouldn't say unaffected, I liked Cedric his willingness to stick up for Harry to his father. (Cedrics)

Were you saddened by it?
I was very saddened. He was a good person

Shocked?
Totally, totally. Never expected it.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?
If anything, I am more touched by his death. The feeling of the students in disbelief.

At first I read "Kill the Spare" and though Oh my. And then Cedric was dead. It happened so quickly it didn't really affect me. Even when Cedric came out of Voldemort's wand and asked Harry to bring his body back for his parents, I still didn't get upset. I was more upset when James came out first (I somehow overlooked the mistake!) and told Harry his mother was coming next. That was sad. The part that got me most, as some of you have pointed out was Dumbledore's "Remember Cedric" speech. That's when it hit me and I felt sad :(

Cedric's death shocked me and i was upset. It came all in a sudden.

Cedric's death was an anti-climax IMO. IT happened in like one sentence and if you blinked you could have missed it. I think it would have made more of an impact if he was tortured by Voldemort or his body was used by Voldemort or something. Not that I am bloodthirsty or anything, but I felt it didn't make enough of an impact. Unless JK didn't really want it to be such a big impact.

The impact wasn't big - but the entire sequence seemed unreal as written, and if that was what Rowling was aiming for, she did a really, really, really good job. When Cedric dies, it was "What just happened?" The death was stunning, not painful. Almost like the difference in other books between hearing a minor character is dead and seeing it happen. Other things floating in there, but all sort of off-topic, so I'll be quiet.

I was quite shocked, and a bit sad, and I suppose slightly guilty of nastier thoughts of that character, ridiculous as it sounds. But it really introduced Voldemort back effectively. He wasn't really such a major character, it was more to introduce voldie back I think.

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?
-- I went kind of cold. It was a very senseless death - and so quick he really didn't seem to have a chance against it.

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?
-- No, but I'd been warned before my reading of the book, because I read several thread titles... :/

Were you saddened by it?
-- Yes, I like Hufflepuffs. They lost a great champion.

Shocked?
-- No, see the above quote. I was shocked at how abrupt his death was, though.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?
-- I haven't read it again, but I have a comment...

When Harry is talking to the Diggorys, I almost cry. His mother is so deadly calm about it, and his dad is griefstricken. It's almost sinister, the way the mom is.

But then also, as someone else pointed out, Dumbledore's speech about him was extremely well-written, and I can expect to hear those words coming from a wizard like him. Only he'd be able to put them together that way.

When Cedric was killed, it was the first innocent in the school - it started Voldemort's new reign of true terror - so it was a very important turning point in the book. It didn't start the roller coaster ride that was Book 4, but it was certainly a loop.

-zora

I forget if I was shocked..... I probably was, but I find it very sad.

"Kill the spare." Voldemort is so evil. He calls him a spare, like he's worthless.

What makes me want to cry is how the death affects everyone, especially Harry, and how he feels guilty. The fact that Harry refused to let go of his body when he came back- When Cho is crying- Dumbledore's speech, etc.

Cedric's death came as a shock to me. With the chilling, heartless words "kill the spare" a loveable guys dies. I was completely taken by surprise. What got to me the most was Harry reaction to it---crying in Mrs. Weasleys arms...just sad. Even though he wasn't a major major character, he was still fun and likeable. I'm gunna miss the guy! =(

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?
I was upset but not to the point of tears.

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?
Yes I think I was less affected because I hadn't really "got to know" Cedric.

Were you saddened by it?
I was sad because anybody's untimely death is sad.

Shocked?
Yes I was shocked because the way voldemort ordered him to be killed straight away and didn't even give him a chance.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?

It has slightly.
I was more saddened by Harry's reaction and when he had to retell it. I always cry when Mrs Weasley gives him that hug. And it also makes me cry when I read Dumbledore's speach about remembering Cedric Diggory.

I just re-read the Diagon Alley chapter in the 1st book. Where Dedalus Diggory - Cedric's DAD - is all weepy and happy to meet Harry.

How must that have hurt him? Horribly - he was sobbing uncontrollably at the one scene. And here's Harry. THE Harry.

I hope that this doesn't "turn" either of the parents against Harry - but it might. I'd be resentful at least. They might turn into useful pawns to Voldemort, with their feelings in chaos. I only hope Voldemort doesn't find out who it was - well, he can hardly miss it if he's reading any news. He'd probably contact them in some way, drop hints that Harry meant for Cedric to take the cup... who knows. He's evil.

I felt really chilled when I re-read that portion of the 1st book though. It was no coincidence, I think, that Diggory's dad was there.

-zora

JemmaG, I don't think his death was supposed to be very climatic. I think the idea was that it was a very quick, thoughtless death. He died with a confused expression. Voldemort didn't give him the time of day, that's the idea.

zora_domina, close but no cigar. The man in that scene was called Dedalus Diggle. But I agree that it was so sad for Amos Diggory in Goblet of Fire. I felt like he was a real rotten one when he was putting down Harry, but then his own son was killed suddenly and he couldn't find any words. And I think it said they both thanked Harry for bringing the body back. So really he was only cruel to Harry out of over-protection for Cedric.

D'oh! Very similar names - my bad. ... Wonder if she thought about that too, or if they were just remarkably similar. :/

-zora

When I first read it, I couldn't believe it. I read it 2 or 3 times, and then I just shrieked "NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!" That brought my brother and sister running in to see what had happened, and of course I couldn't tell them since they hadn't read the book yet. Then as I read on the tears started coming. By the time Dumbledore's "remember Cedric" speech was over there weren't any individual tears, just two steady streams running down my face. It took me three days to get over the initial shock. When I've read it again it's been easier because I know it's coming, and I can prepare myself for it. But Dumbledore's speech still brings tears to my eyes.

Plain and simply, Cedric should not have died, his death signifies the loss of hope. I am going to try and not repeat what I said earlier.

If Voldemort is willing to do what he did, can there be any remorse? How can he have enough human in him to die if he doesn't feel guilt or have a conscience?

I couldn't be shocked more!!!I almost started to cry. I never like the Hufflepuffs, but Cedirc was kinda dear for me. And when it happened- I just couldn't believe. I was so sure that it was a mistke, that he is not dead... I was really really sad!!!

I was so shocked, my eyes got pretty misty too, I couldn't beleive it, but it didn't shake the harry potter world in my mind

* How did you feel when you read Cedric's death? *
I was absolutely shocked. He died in such a matter of fact way. I didn't cry because I thought that there would surely be some way that "magic" could bring him back, like if he wasn't truly dead, but he stayed dead.

* Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"? *
No - I felt like I'd gotten to know him a little bit since he and Harry had been exchanging clues, and I liked that he had taken Cho away from Harry.

* Were you saddened by it? *
Once I realized that he was really dead, I was really sad.

* Shocked? *
Totally and completely. I didn't start getting into the HP rumors and websites and such until just recently, so I had no idea that someone had been rumored to die in GoF. I did know that people's deaths would start happening sometime though.

* Has that initial feeling changed with more readings? *
Actually, as of now I've only read it in its entirety once! I'm reading PoA for the 2nd time now, and GoF will follow suit...so, we'll see.

I was surised when Cedric died and felt a little sad; it wasn't until the whole coming-out-of-the-wand thing that I started looking for the Kleenex.

I didn't really think she made a big deal about Cedric's death. She just basically said, "he was dead" and then moved on to Voldemort. I accually really liked Cedric (even though I hated his father) but comparing Cedric to his father made me like him even more. He was noble, good, caring and not stuck up even though he has every reason to be. I liked him ever since he wanted a rematch with Harry because of the dementor incident at the Hufflepuff quiddich game. I'm just glad that Hogwarts acknowleged the death accordingly.

This may sound nasty, but Cedrics Death was necessary.


It was cruel but it was neccesary. It gave support that Voldemort was back in power.

I think that JK portrayed Cedric's death really well. She almost did it in a throw away style that surprised and amazed her audience. It really brought home the power of AK, the fact that this one simple spell took a perfectly healthy boy and made him dead as a door nail in such a short amount of time. It showed how deadly and ruthless this spell truly was and showed that Voldemort has compassion to nobody, unless you are of importance to him than you will find yourself dead.

"Kill the spare" still sickens me, I haven't been able to read that bit since the first time. I am getting welled up now, just thinking about it.
I suppose it is merged with the fact that Cedric was everyone.
He was a regular Joe. If we were at Hogwarts, It could have been you or me, him, the guy you sat next to at lunch, the girl who smiled at you on the way to Hogsmead, anyone.

Yeah that was a pretty sickening line but I think it perfectly shows how ruthless Voldemort really is.

Originally posted by Picko (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=207854#post207854))
Yeah that was a pretty sickening line but I think it perfectly shows how ruthless Voldemort really is.


Ruthless, Emotionally invisible. He isn't eveil an angry evil. Everything he does is cold calculated and manipulative, He is a psychopath and just honestly doesn't understand guilt

I must admit i never liked diggory, i was mad coz he beat harry to asking cho to the ball. However when he died i felt we were truly seeing the horror of voldemort, and his lack of mercy. The writing was outstanding. the paragraph
Cedric was lying spread-eagled on the ground beside him. He was dead.
Is just so direct and powerful it scared me how little voldemort valued life. The aftermath of his death was horrible. His parents and harry's reactions were upsetting. it was such powerful writing from JK, it did exactly what she meant to, scare and upset me. amazing stuff

To be honest, I didn't really react to Cedric's death. I admit that it was a bit sad, but it was expected (in my case.) I found the fact that Voldemort rises again as utterly surprising, which surprises me because it's really a rational occurrence if we take into consideration that the story is only halfway finished. But, still, I was more surprised by Voldie's reincarnation than by Cedric's death.

I don't' know why I was so shocked by Cedric's death. I found it quite devastating. I guess I wasn't expecting it. But every time I read the last parts of GoF, I still find it quite sad, that Cedric was killed (and in such a callous way). It was very effective for me.

When I first came to Cedric's death I was mortified :wow:! I actually started crying :'( because I was so caught up in the book that I could almost have felt what Harry was feeling. I really didn't care too much for Cedric, but the shock of the moment left we gaping as tears ran down my face. After his death though, I couldn't help thinking, "Well, now Harry gets Cho." Did anyone else think about Harry getting Cho (maybe) afterwards? :??: Or am I just different? :sorry:

spellman1216 :D

I actually knew Cedric would be dying in GOF before I even read it, as I unfortunately came across that info on one of the boards while reading POA. But it was still really, really hard to read, and very shocking. However - not to get off topic - I still think the most emotional thing I've read in any of the books so far is when the Prior Incantatem is happening, and Harry's Dad comes out of Voldemort's wand (I've only read the early, non-fixed version of GOF) and says "your Mother's coming, she wants to see you," and Lily comes out. That just crushed me. Because Harry had sort of interacted with his father in POA, with the whole Prongs thing, which was also very emotional. But for him to see his Mom, and for her to talk to him - wow. But back to Cedric - even knowing in advance that it was coming, it was still quite a shock.

"There is much that I would like to say to you all tonight," said Dumbledore, "but I must first acknowledge the loss of a very fine person, who should be sitting here," he gestured toward the Hufflepuffs, "enjoying our feast with us. I would like you all, please, to stand, and raise your glasses, to Cedric Diggory." ...
"Cedric was a person who exemplified many of the qualities that distinguish Hufflepuff house," Dumbledore continued. "He was a good and loyal friend, a hard worker, he valued fair play. His death has affected you all, whether you knew him well or not."

"Honor Him..."

- I just finished rereading the GOF and i almost bauled my eyes out after reading that i think it only fitting to honor him, to not is an insult to his memory. If you feel inclined you can place

- Honor Cedric Diggory! -

in your signature. Thank you all and good night. hehehe, i know im a tard sometimes

what a shame no repsonses, u dern slytherans.

LoL I take offence to that.In every sorting servey I take I end up in slythern.

Anyway,Yeah I know that was very very sad.Pains me to read the last few chapters of Gof.Yet the snake in me says "I don't care".After all he took Harry's girl an his pompus and very rude father annoyed the **** out of me.



Btw,you just read GoF ? WoW (Not that there is anything wrong with that)

Hi, H0gwarts--
If anywhere, this thread should probably go in the Common Room. However, there's not much for discussion on this topic, so it's a possibility that the mods might close it. :shrug:

I agree that this was a terrible part to read in GoF, but I was actually a lot more worried about Harry getting tortured. I actually thought the first time through that Harry might die (stupid, I know, it's book 4), so this was a bit of a shock.

Glad I am not the only one that is irritated by Amos Diggory. Every time I reread that book I can not help but yell and complain that he is so rude. It clearly irritates Cedric. Bet good old Amos would rather have some more plesant things to say if he knew what would happen. Ok sorry rant over. That just really really reall really really irratates me.

This thread might stay open because you all seem to like discussing how annoying Amos Diggory is! But this doesn't have anything to do with future plotlines and stuff about Harry Potter, which is what the Great Hall is all about. Either this thread will be closed or moved....

Well i will be more than happy to contribute my part to keep this thread open:). No matter where it is...

:welcome: to the boards H0gwarts!

This should probably be under Book Apreciation (Book 1-4 Discussion Corner) with the title
"How did Cedric's death effect you" and it could discuss the emotional feeling people got when they read about his death, and Dumbledores way of honoring him.
Personally I found it really sad, espically when the Diggorys spoke to Harry afterwards ... I dreaded reading of the death of a character we hardly knew, I am almost reluctant to have a "fan" of Harrys die in book 5

i want to honor him like the others lol and they can move it if they (please dont) more people will read it here hehe

I think this is a nice idea. I can't find the other Cedric thread anyway, it must have been deleted.
Cedric represented innocence and hope to me, and with him murdered, nobody is safe

I think he represents the 'average wizard'. No ties to the dark side, nothing bad in him. A little annoying at times, but very much normal (I wanted to say human, does that fit?)

@-'-,-------------

Well, that's a nice thread... I was sad about Cedric's death... He was a very good person...:'(
Ah, I almost forgot! Amos Diggory irritates me, too!:D

Ok I'll put it in!!

I'm going to merge this with another, previous thread titled "Your reaction to Cedric's Death".

Thanks, DocHollidaywe!


I hardly even reacted to Cedric's death when I first read it. I was not shocked, because I knew that he was the one who would die (I accidentally spoiled the secret for myself long before I reached that part of the book). Initially, I was not saddened, because I cared little for Cedric at the time and was relieved that it was not one of the trio, or the Weasleys, etc., who died. I was too excited and eager to know about what was to come to really allow myself to be affected by it. However, I have felt it more keenly during subsequent readings of the book-- I've grown more fond of Cedric since then and really think it tragic. It is not so much the death that saddens me as it is what happens later-- Cedric's last request, Harry's reaction to his death and Dumbledore's eulogy are more affecting to me than is that moment when Voldemort says "Kill the spare".

I've put it in mine too.

What did I feel when I read about Cedric's death? Well, you can call me insensitive but the answer is: almost nothing. I was so thrilled by the rest of the event that I paid little attention to Cedric's death. However I was moved when he told Harry to take his body to his parents...

[quote]Originally posted by Bilbo (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=135051#post135051))
How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?
I wasn't very emotionally affected but I found it very ironic. It was something which I was not prepared for by foreshadowing or any other event- even the death of Frank Bryce.
Were you saddened by it?
Not really- at least not until Dumbledore spoke
Shocked?
Deeply
Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?
No, not really although the shock does fade- but I think it will with future books.
:'(

thanks for putting it everyone who did u roxors

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?
I happened so fast and unexpected, I was really shocked. One second he was alive, next second he was dead.

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?
It would have affected me more if it was a more known character.

Were you saddened by it?
A little bit, especially when his parents visited Harry and when Harry thinks it's his fault

Shocked?
Yes, very.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?
I wasn't so shocked anymore the next times I read it, because I knew it was going to happen, but it's still very sad.

I felt really really sad, I had to go through some kind of little mourning...
When I just read that he was dead, I kinde like thought he might not be really dead, I was thinking, well perhaps they can get back to Hogwarts very soon and he can be reanimated or something like that... I knows it sounds stupid... Then he came out of the wand and again I thought, he's going to be back!! :s
When I re-read it, I could really deal with it (guess the mourning did it's job, and there was no shock anymore either) but I still had a difficult time with the scene where Harry meets Cedric's parents....

I was kinda affetced..though I didn't really care for Cedric before his death so I didn't care too much

I know I must seem insensitive but I did't feel anything at Cedric's death. After all the other events which happened his death didn't matter that much to me. I read the GoF right after I read PoA and so I was still mad at Wormtail. Also Cedric is not one of my favorite.

I was shocked when Cedric died. I definitely didn't expect it, especially since they both had their wands out. I thought he was going to be able to fight whomever had brought him and Harry over, but he didn't have a chance. I can't remember if I cried the moment I read that he was dead, but I'm positive I did. I know I cried because I can picture what myself getting up from bed crying and not believing he was gone. I cried when he asked to take his body back and when they toasted for him at the Great Hall.

yea lol

My reaction was pure shock. I couldn't believe that he was dead and it didn't really hit me that he died until a week after I read the book and then I felt like crying. And I didn't even care about him either. I just get sad when people die.

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?
- I was hit by a stunning spell. I really didn't know what to think what would happen to Harry next that Cedric is already dead. Well, i was actually concerned for Harry. After Cedric was killed then i can't stop reading because i was scared that Harry would be severely injured or something. I know he wouldn't die because there is still books 5,6&7. :o

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?
- No i wasn't affected at all.

Were you saddened by it?
- Yes.

Shocked?
- Yes.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?
- Yes.

i was very shocked when cadric died. it was totally unexpected and it was over before it even began (if that makes sense) on sec he is alive :)<----Cedric and then another he is dead :ghost:<---- dead Cedric. i wasnt really that upset as he wasnt really a main character.

I thought it was a bit odd..


he didn't seem "central" enough to be killed and get THAT much spotlight

Originally posted by lleugenell (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=358297#post358297))
I thought it was a bit odd..
he didn't seem "central" enough to be killed and get THAT much spotlight
He was not central, but he was the kind of character nobody wants to see dead, intelligent, handsome, skillful. I think JKR was just giving us a warning that starting there, no one was safe and the readers can expect anything from now. And we all know that he won't be the single casuality of this coming dark period.

I had very little reaction to Cedric's actual death. Like Harry, I was very numb to it at first. My adrenalin was pumping, (yes, I get adrenalin rushes from reading books :p) and it seemed to be side action that wasn't as important as Harry. It wasn't until Dumbledore gave his speech that I felt the full impact of Cedric's death. It was devastating. Tremendously sad. But I also saw it as a very good sign. Because JKR killed off a character and killed him in this manner, I knew that she was going to approach the horror of the rest of the series very realistically, and therefore, the next three books would quite simply rock. :)

The first time I read about Cedric's death in GoF, my jaw dropped. I didn't cry. It was just so shocking, I don't think that I could figure out whether I should cry, be angry, or just like "whatever". As I read Dumbledore's speech, I was overwhelmed. It was a very sad ending. :'(

i probably shouldnt' say this...but i didn't actually notice that he'd died the first time i read it *blush* when he appeared out of the wand i was like....what the???? i was so excited at what happened that i was reading so fast i just missed it!

it was sad, i guess...but i didn't cry or feel sad about it for ages after. just kinda went 'oh' and that was it. did like him though...he was a cool character :D havea feeling the next death might be worse though :(

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?
I was appalled the first time.

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?
NO I think he was an important characterand is/was an important storyline.

Were you saddened by it? Of course, I cried.

Shocked?
Very much so, It was very blunt.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?
I feel know of course that the shock was neccessary to the story and was probably forshadowed by the DADA lessons in the curses. It was such an important scene, they had to reappear in the story.

I was so sad when Cedric died :'( He didn't deserve to die. He was nice and although not that much of an important character he was still a great friend. He will be sorely missed by me :'(

My explanation is very similar to Anne's. For some reason, the fact that Cedric had just been killed did not really daunt me. I was too worried about Harry. All through the book I knew somehow Harry was going to get hurt or something horrible done to him. And when the time came when I knew it would happen (the pages were getting thin by then), I was so pre-occupied with Harry's safety, that I just lighly brushed Cedric's death away only noting that if he died, then Harry's definitely in danger. My reaction sort of reminds me the way Hermione totally ignores Krum's injuries done to him in the third task and him rescueing her from the lake because Harry was there and subconsciecesly commanded her attention. It was kind of like that. I guess at the first time of reading the book at that point Cedric's death was insubstancial except for the fact that Harry could be in trouble because another kid just got seriously hurt.....I hope you get what I mean, because I have a tendency to ramble which sometimes does not make sense...:)

He was nice, and it was sad but I didn't cry over him but I can name many people I would have wanted to die in his place.

I was shocked. I think I stared at the page for a bit, just trying to comprehend the fact that he had died. I don't think I cried, though. I don't often cry over books.

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death? ::::: I think that I a little bit sad.

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?:::: He was nice so I felt something for him. He wasn't like a rotten peice of crud you want to die....

Were you saddened by it?::::: I think I was a little bit sad.

Shocked?:::: YES!!!! I had NOT known there was to be a death(thank goodness, unlike for this book.) I knew NOTHING about the book, so it all came a BIG shock to me.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?::: I never got around to reading GoF more then once and the first 100pages a second time. I'm starting to read it again, maybe I'll feel more for him this go-round... We'll see...


I felt nothign... Really... At the time I didn't know anyone was going to die, I knew NOTHING about the book, so it came as a MAJOR shock to me... Nut we eel close enough to Cedric to really care for him, though he seemed like an over-all wonderfull guy.

Obviously he's not that trivial of a character, he played an important role. Of course that role was dying. ahaha So yeah....


God Bless ~Amy

I just reread the book and I cried when Cedric died. The first time I read it I mostly felt shock. The other times I was a little sad, but not much. I didn't care about Cedric that much. I think I was just moody this time.

It to me was surprising, so I was pretty affected by it. It kinda made me sad, but then again...maybe not?

Did J.K do this so Harry had a better chance for Cho?

well i thought it was horrible. someone's life taken away so instantly, so unexpectedly...i don't know if i felt much when it happened, i think that like Harry i was numb to it, thinking that he would be able to come back alive somehow, that JK wouldn't kill off a student in such a cold, evil and shocking way... but she did and i realised that it was to truly show how evil Voldemort is.

I felt really sad when Harry and Cedric returned to Hogwarts and people were crying, and Dumbledore's voice was shaking. And of course DD's speech and Cho crying. And the fact that Cedric was the least deserving to die, he was just a nice friendly person who could have had a great sucessful life.

hmmmm....seriously.I know from my heart that i was not affected at all by cedric's death.
But still ,this sentence disgusts me."Kill the spare."
Cedric deserves some respect doesn't he?
I'm not very attatched to cedric thats why i didn't cry but i respected him a lot.

Cedric reminded me of that guy from high school who got the hottest and most popular girl, is quarterback and captain on the football, and is just plain perfect. He really bugged me, so I wasn't devestated when he died. However, when Dumbledore made his speech I felt sorry for Cedric and his friends and family. So R.I.P Cedric! :smile:

It didn't bother me at all. In the fourth book, it was like "Here's Cedric, he's going to die now, you should feel sad."

I was never really close to Cedric as a character. I do believe that he is a surprising character to find out. It was sad...but it would be as sad as Colin Creevy dieing but not as satisfying.*evil me*.

We'd never really got to know a lot about Cedric so the death was less emotional, like when you see someone on the news die... the death in bk. 5 will be worse because it is the death of a main character...

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?

Shocked at first. But as I continued reading I realized how important he really was. The "Remember Cedric" speech had me in tears.

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?

No I wasn't unaffected.

Were you saddened by it?

Yes, very much so

Shocked?

Yep...

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?

No, I still think he was a good charcter to have lost

I didn't really think about his death. It wasn't all that important to me, so a character who I barely knew - expect for, that he was a 'pretty boy' died. So what? The truth was, I was more worried about Harry and that Voldemort was back.

i cried a helluva lot. poor cedrick.

Cedric was not the regular Joe. He is such a genuine character, who epitomized everything Hufflepuff was. Honest, good, caring, noble, fair. It's very hard to meet people like that these days. Because he was so rare, so hard to come by, that it would only make sense that his life was so ephemeral. He's just too good to be true so he's lasted for a short while.

I was completely shocked at Cedric's death. I was absolutely in love with his character in the GoF. Those words, "Kill the Spare" disgust me to no end. I couldn't believe my eyes when I read that line. I was hoping Cedric would protect himself but to my dissapointment, he was dead. The way Rowling described him after being hit with the Avada Kedavra curse. It was almost speechless. His eyes, like windows of an empty house.... Very haunting. Dumbledore's speech hit me hard. It was so powerful. You can tell he wanted everyone to remember Cedric because he was such a *genuine* person.

I think the only person who saw light in Ced's death was his mother. She stated that he must have been happy since he died just when he'd won the tournament. So although Cedric died, he died a happy man. It's a good thing Rowling put that little tidbit in.

Cedric was not a trivial character because he exuded a lot of life's important lessons in which Harry and the readers can learn from. Of all the things we should learn from him, we should learn to be fair.

Anyone remember what Ronan said in the first book? "The innocent are always the first to die." That must have been a huge clue. It's unfortunate Cedric was the one. Sigh. I'm still dissapointed to this day that anyone had to die, especially Ced. but I guess we have to move on.

it didnt shock me, when i was reading the part, i was just like, ok, lets go on. I didnt think he was that important.

i cried. i know he was a trivial character, but i still cried. it was terrible of volde.... and i cried throughout the last chapters over harry's reaction to cedric's death. he took it terrible. it made me sad. overemotional, perhaps?

When I first read GoF, I did a double-take on the part where Cedric died. I couldn't believe it, I had to read it again! I didn't cry because he wasn't a central character. But I probably wouldn't cry unless one of the trio or Dumbledore or a Weasley died.

When I read GoF, it was probably about a week after I read PS. So at that stage, I had no idea about all the HP websites and I had no idea about the interviews JKR did so I didn't know that she was going to kill any characters off! It was a shock for me because I didn't even consider the idea that JKR would kill a character! I was thinking, this is meant to be a children's book, why would she kill one of the good-guys?

I was like Joanna, I thought that Cedric would try and defend himself when Voldemort said "Kill the spare". Because he did have his wand out, after all. I wasn't disappointed. Just shocked.

But anyway, after I read it the first time, I read it about 3 more times :lol: I loved it so much. And it's still kinda weird reading Cedric die. Just the way she wrote it, it was weird... it was just like that, he's dead. None of the sappy stuff like when someone gets shot or something and he dies in Harry's arms. But then again, it'd be pretty stupid if JKR did write it like that, I guess...

Anyway, I'm rambling... I was rather shocked when I first read it. It was totally unexpected for me. But I didn't cry.

It sounds really awful, but I didn't actually feel anything when I read about Cedric's death. It was bad, yes, and I liked Cedric and all, I just didn't react when he died.

I did have a tear in my eye when Dumbledore was making his speech about Diggory though, I think the last time I read GoF I blubbered at that part.

I didn't cry or anything either, but when I thought about it later, it was really depressing. After all, he died just because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. The one moment that should have been the crowning achievement in his life turned out to lead to his death.

I was totally shocked, but not because I cared for Cedric. I was shocked because I didn't expect to find such an explicit death in a Harry Potter book. I mean, even you have those mass murders in the 3rd one, or the toilet girl in the 2nd one, or the gohsts, I didn't expect JKR to write a death of one of the present students at Hogwards that Harry knows and had classes with and played Quiditch together.
I guess that's when I realized that the series is going to mature with the audience.

I was like, "wow!" There's really now other way to describe it. It was so quick - you're wondering why they portkeyed, and then . . . this?!

When I first read it, i was just totally shocked. i couldn´t believe it. it happend so fast.

but when i was re reading the book, and i knew it was coming, i got all sad. i was totally crying. it kind of just dawned on me the trajedy of it all. i mean, he was so innocent. all he wanted was to play in the tournament. it was just, so tragic.....

I was so shocked because no character we had gooten to know had died. I wasn't really sad until Dumbledore's speech.

It suprised me, and saddened me, I was reading it at like 1:30 in the morning and my mom came downstairs to find me with tears streaming down my face lol. Which to anyone that knows me, knows that isn't a strange occurance. I tend to cry a lot during books movies etc etc. :blush:

I was saddened, but I didn't have time to process it until later on, when Harry had time to process it.

:sigh: I was rather sad, but everything went on so quickly I couldn't really take time to mourn, but even so I was really sad. I didn't cry, but I cry at some of the weirdest times at books, mainly at the end of a really good book with a bittersweet ending.

Well, I just thought "Of course". Well, I mean, he was too good. Excellent Qudditch player, handsome, won the TT... JKR clearly didn't want him to steal the show. :huh: So, all the characters who could be better than Harry, beware!

I am somewhat ashamed to say that the first and second times I read GoF, I didn't care much. I didn't look much into it; then again, I was...twelve? However, when I read it for a third time, it really hit me hard. Cedric was such a great guy; he was always civil to Harry, didn't seem to care that Harry 'stole' his fame by becoming the other Hogwarts Champion. I was quite struck when he died the third time around, because I suppose I was really absorbing the text more. It's happening, now that I'm getting older.

I was shocked, horrified, surprised. I was just sitting there thinking he is DEAD! How is that possible! I just couldn't believe that a character would die, especially one of the champions. Sometimes I think what if Harry and Cedric hadn't been the ones to touch the Portkey first? What if it had been Fleur? Krum? Or if Cedric had been the only one to touch the Portkey?

of course i wasnt unaffected. It was so sudden, i had to re-read it all to make sure it really happened, it just came out oif nowehere, like one minute he was alive, one minute dead. I wasn't depresed or anything but it was shocked

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?

Were you saddened by it?

Shocked?

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?

Initially, I wasn't bothered by his death -- just relieved it wasn't a major character's death. However, upon subsequent reads, I realized how much his death has meant and how it has affected other characters.
1. I was kind of upset but now as upset as when Sirius died. He was just a minor charactor.

2. I guess I was not as affected as I should be because he is such a minor charactor.

3. I was a little sad by it I was hoping Harry could find a way to reverse it.

4. Nothing changed with more readings.

I was shcoked and moved to tears a little. But I was much worse when Sirius died.

I searched, and nothing came up of this sort...feel free to merge, close, etc.

Ok, yes, in the last two books we have had two deaths at the end. Sirius' death did sadden me, but what about Cedric? Does anyone else feel more sorry for this guy than Sirius? I mean, he was only seventeen or whatever, he was innocent, and he didn't expect Wormtail to cast the Killing Curse. I was a lot more depressed by this dust biting than Sirius'. Please tell me what you think, or if you want to whack me over the head for being so insensitive to the godfather.

I searched, and nothing came up of this sort...feel free to merge, close, etc.

Ok, yes, in the last two books we have had two deaths at the end. Sirius' death did sadden me, but what about Cedric? Does anyone else feel more sorry for this guy than Sirius? I mean, he was only seventeen or whatever, he was innocent, and he didn't expect Wormtail to cast the Killing Curse. I was a lot more depressed by this dust biting than Sirius'. Please tell me what you think, or if you want to whack me over the head for being so insensitive to the godfather.
No, not more then Sirius, I loved Sirius, but i still felt bad for Cedric. I mean, any death in the books are sad.

I too felt worse when Cedric died but I don't particularly care that it was him just that he was a kid. I feel this way more because I don't like Sirius than that I overlike Cedric.

no, I don't want to whack you. Both of the deathes were pretty sad. I think Sirius's was sadder, though. I mean, he spendt a lot of his life in Azkaban, one of his best friends dead, the other a traitor, hardly saw his godson, stuck in the house he grew up in that he hated, and before life could possibly become good again, he died! At least Cedric was happy around the time he died and hadn't suffered a lot. But ti was still pretty sad. Just when I started liking Cedric, he had to DIE! How unfair! er...

I was sad over both deaths. Its just that Siriu's death is a little freasher in the mind cause the book is newer than GoF.

I was very upset when Cedric died mostly because I had lost 2 close friends just before reading GoF and it really hit home for me. I felt more for Harry however when Sirius died then Cedric because Sirius was one of the few father figures in his life (The others being Mr. Weasley and Dumbledore), and he didn't really know Cedric all that well. But I felt Cedric was a really great guy and I was very saddened by his death.

I feel bad about Cedric he was so......Perfect but he had to go. I miss him Lots!

It's weird... I didn't cry about Sirius but I almost did about Cedric... I don't know, Cedric just seemed so good and pure, and by all means Sirius is good too, I don't know why that happened... Rambling...

I didn't feel sorry for Cedric or Sirius because Sirius went to a place he could be happy with James and even though Harry can't see him Sirius will always watch over him. Cedric died just when he was happy but slightly creeped out at least he didn't die in pain with the knowledge that he could have do something about it.

I did care, I was so shocked when he died too. He seemed pretty decent and altogether nice.

I felt sad when Cedric died, simply because it was unnecessary and pointless. He was only killed because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time, he did nothing against Voldemort or the DE's. It was almost killing for the sake of killing, and that made me very sad.

Avada Kedavra, I don't think anyone would interpret feeling sad about Cedrics death as being insensitive about Sirius' death. At least I hope no-one would!

I felt worse about Cedric than I did about Sirius, but I am not sure why. Maybe, it was the toast to Cedric at the last chapter of GoF that made the whole thing much more depressing. I like Cedric, especially at the third task when he helped Harry.

Call me coldhearted, Call me uncaring, but no. I really didn't give a **** that Cedric died. he was a little annoyance really.

I agree completely with 'The Prefect' - Although both deaths were complete shocks to me, for some reason I was more upset about Cedric's than Sirius'. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Cedric didn't even get a chance to do anything to stop it, just *boom* portkey--->dead. Sirius, on the other hand, went out fighting, and he knew prefectly well what he was getting himself into by fighting along with the Order. Not that that makes his death any less tragic.
I don't know what it is, but whenever I get to Cedric's death, even now when I know that it's coming, I cry. But with Sirius I don't. Maybe it's just because Harry takes care of that part for me :/

Truthfully, it just wasnt that moving. Its not like Harry had any real personal ties with Cedric. Not that it wasnt sad, but I think it made me feel more scared for harry than sad that Cedric died.

Cedric was certainly an interesting character. He's the guy that everyone in your class loved, got along with everyone, and was just plain likable. Even when Harry's mad at him, we as readers knew Cedric wasn't being malicious to Harry. However at that point I doubt any of us expected his death (I know my jaw dropped).

Sirius, well I have to admit I saw his death coming. And truthfully I was not happy with the way his character developed in Order of the Phoenix. He went from a seriously concerned parent in Goblet of Fire to a depressed, moody and irresponsible person. I didn't care for that at all.

So yea I guess you could say Cedric's death hit closer to home for me than Sirius' did.

Sure I was sad when Cedric died. Not only did he die unnaturally young, but he was a decent individual who seemed to treat others with respect.

While Cedric's death was sad, I think Sirius' death had an impact on Harry in a different way. While it was awful for Harry to witness Cedric's death, not only did he see Sirius die, but it was emotionally devestating as well. Sirius was his godfather, a father figure to him and a link to his own parents. Both were tragic expereinces for Harry, but I think Sirius' death definitely hit closer to home.

I have to point out too, that while Cedric died when he was little more than a child, it really isn't that different for Sirius. His life was stolen away from him when he was thrown into Azkaban for 12 long years and then died shortly after. His entire adulthood was taken from him as well, just as Cedric's was.

I was more upset when Sirius died. Cedric's death happened to suddenly, and it didn't really sink in until the Dumbledore's toast. That really got me upset. I mean, he was just a kid, and had no clue that was about to happen. However, we didn't know and care Cedric the same way we knew and cared for Sirius. I loved Sirius, and it was horrible seeing him die.

Of course I care that Cedric died.
He was a promising young man who was decent to everyone around him. We didn't get a chance to know him very well in the books but that was part of the tragedy of his death too. We were just beginning to really know and like him.

In case you are interested, here a couple of threads related to Cedric's death.
Cedric Diggory’s death was Snape’s fault? (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=18275)
Why did JKR kill Cedric? (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=22631)

I did really like Cedric, but I didn't get enough time to really know him, allthough, in any book it is fairly sad when someone dies. I miss Sirius more then I miss Cedric. I think that Sirius had a much bigger part in the books then Cedric. But, if Cedric were still living, I think he would have a big part in the series.

gosh im evil, but i was happy when he died because at the time i really wanted cho and harry to get together [after the fifth book i realized how wrong i was] .. and noone compares to sirius' death .. i actually cried, and no other book has made me cry and i only cried in one other movie, "I Am Sam", so i think that sirius' death affected me more

I too felt worse when Cedric died but I don't particularly care that it was him just that he was a kid.

Exactly. Cedric was only 17/18. He had his whole entire life ahead of him and Voldemort took it because Cedric didn't need to be present. Sirius died fairly young too, but he wasn't nearly as young as Cedric. I felt worse during Cedric's death than at Sirius'.

I cared, but again he wasn't a huge character, he was nice and all.. but he wasn't like Sirius. The death was sad, but I got over it quickly.

I think the reason so many people got over it so quickly was because he wasn't a fully developed character, as much as Harry or Ron or Neville. He was easy to let go, but won't easily be forgotten.

The thing that upsets me more with sirius's death than with cedric's, is that you can see sirius's coming a mile away, and an awful anticipation builds, and you know something awful is going to happen, but no one can stop it. Not only that, it is so...incomplete. We have no idea why going throught that veil kills him, he is just...gone. But with cedric, not only is it unexpected, it is very, well, neatly done. We know for absolute fact that he is gone, and not coming back, and that makes it easier to get through. And honestly, cedric's death just doesn't affect harry as much as sirius's. After sirius dies, harry's life is even crappier than before, and harry really does have an awful life, if you think about it. However, cedric's death seems closer to home in the 5th book.

We didn't get a chance to know him very well in the books but that was part of the tragedy of his death too. We were just beginning to really know and like him.


Now, I can say that you made me think of something, you are right, why would she kill him when we were just about to meet him? When we were just about to like him? Might he be the Half Blood Prince? But yes, I did cared because it doesnt makes sense to me why she killed him. And poor Cho is now alone.

I'd say Harry and Cho cared that Cedric died..... As for me, i didn't really care, more like I was shocked at the suddenness of the death. When JKR kills someone she doesn't mess around, they just die. I spent the last few chapters if GOF in shock over the death of a student and the rise of Voldemort. It wouldn't have matter to me if Victor or Fleur had died instead.

I was sad about Cedric's death because he was a really great kid. He was a good athlete, smart, friendly, what seemed to be a very well rounded person. I couldnt believe that he was killed just that like. Flash bang dead. It was horrible how it didnt even have effect on Voldemort and that killing and ordering to have people killed is not a big deal. When it happened I was like whoa...How is Harry going to get himself out of this one? :scared:

I was most definitely upset when Cedric died---as someone else said, it really didnt sink in for me either until DD did his speech at the end. It seemed like such a senseless death--the poor kid did nothing wrong. It was even worse when I thought about poor Harry--as if he didnt have enough to deal with!(then she kills sirius in ootp) And Im sure Cedric could have been a lot of help now that the second war is upon them...but, I trust JK has her reasons for everything:(

It's not fair to say one's death was sadder than the other. Cedric was young, honest and down right admirable. Sirius was a little crazy, but who didn't just adore him all the more? Both were very much heartwenching. There's so much I could say about both. Cedric's was spoiled, as a friend told me about it before I even got to crack GoF open, and Sirius's was so beautifuly written, both were really. About three months ago, a friend I had known all my life, who was a lot like Sirius, was killed in a car accident, a week before her sixteenth. I had read the books before then, but being in these threads, rereading those scenes, you get a deeper understanding, it hurts more, seems more real. I liked and miss both characters. All I can say is to remember Cedric Diggory, and that Sirius died how he always wanted, in battle. Remember the both of them. I raise my butterbeer to them, and Jack.......cheers.

We never really got to knew him. I feel more sorry for Bode (or whoever it was that was strangled to death by that plant).

Cheers.

I feel sad about all of them (even Bode). Like a few people have already said, Cedric's didn't really hit me untill DD's speech when I nearly cried (and the only other time that has happened was the first time I watched Titanic) Sirius' was like... woa... one line he's there, the next he isn't. I didn't see it coming, but I wasn't keen on the direction his character was going from the start of OotP, he was too tempermental for my liking. But he was Harry's father figure, so yeah, it's sad. And Bode's was just cruel.

I don't know but Cedric's character didn't do much to me. Mostly I feel detached from his character, until he died. Even that took a while to sink in. It wasn't until he asked Harry to send his body back to his parents that I actually wept. It's true what people say; you won't miss someone until they are gone.

Both deaths were really sad. Even though both deaths were instant, the reactions of their loved ones and Harry in particular were very sad to read about. I suppose people make a bigger fuss over Sirius because he was a very significant character, Cedric, bless him, was less important in regards to the overall plot of the books.

I thought Cedric's death was very shocking and sudden and since it was the first real death, I felt it,also he did nothing to deserve it so you feel for him as he is so innocent in it all. I do feel it was important to the plot as it effects Harry so much in book 5

My first reaction was shock. It happened so fast, and without time to react... it shows how heartless is Voldemort, how he doesn't have any kind of scrupules...

I weren't really bothered because he wasn't a main character and we didn't really get to know him. It was a shock that he had been killed by Voldemort but I didn't start sobbing over it.

wellllllllllllllll i guess it DID upset me, because that was the first time i cried from a book, poor me i was only in 8th grade! i absolutely LOVED cedric, he was just so nice and perfect and he made me happy :p and i don't think i'm going to be able to handle it during the 4th movie...oh dear :upset:

For some reason Cedric's death did not get to me at all, I think I was too pre-occupied with what was going on afterwards to have time to feel upset. Cedric's death was not written in the same way as that of Sirius, now his death did have more of an impact on me.

Cedric's death was tragic in that he was still a student and had his whole life ahead of him. It was upsetting that he was one of the first victems murdered by Voldemort just prior to his return to power. But I wasn't particularly fond of Cedric as a character though, so his death didn't affect me as much as Sirius'.

What got to me was not Cedric's death per se, but the plea of his ghost: "Harry, take my body back to my parents". He wanted his loved ones to have a chance to bury him, a chance to have some closure.

Harry risked his life to do this for Cedric's parents. Then Sirius dies and leaves no body. How tragically ironic. :sad:

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?
I had the "Oh, no!!!" feeling that comes with an unpleasant surprise. That's it.

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?
At first, I thought so, but when I read Dumbledore's speech about the choices we have and all the students honoring Cedric, I felt quite sad

Were you depressed?
No, not really.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?
Nope. Well, not interely true, I have this "poor guy" feeling every time Cedric enters the scene :sad:

I was actually more shocked by Cedric's death than Sirius's. I got into HP after the first four books were already published, so I read them all in quick succession after first reading SS. I had NO idea anyone was supposed to die in GoF, so it was especially shocking to see a student suddenly die. It was also just a few months after 9/11 when I read it, so the whole thing at the end, Dumbledore's address to the students, etc. was particularly poignant.

With Sirius, however, I'd known for months that someone was going to die in OoTP, and actually had the time to consider and make a decision about who that would be. And, I guessed right. . . so by the time it came, I was so reconciled to the fact that it didn't bother me as much as it should have. What DID get me, though, was Dumbledore talking to Harry about all the mistakes he'd made. . . I guess it's the smaller things, the more intimate moments that are the ones that really affect me emotionally.

Harry risked his life to do this for Cedric's parents. Then Sirius dies and leaves no body. How tragically ironic.

What do you mean, Sirius leaves nobody? He left Harry, didn't he? And Lupin (I just got done re-reading OoTP last night, and was really struck by JKRs descriptions of Lupin right after Sirius falls through the curtain. . . so painful!)? I think he left more people than he could have imagined he would.

I said on another thread like this one...I wasnt particularly shocked by his death--it was so sudden and quick, but I think the events that followed were much more emotional bringing us into the end and dumbledore's speech. Once Cedrric is killed...we soon have priori incantantum, which i think is much more emotional and gripping than the scene where cedric is actually killed...when cedric tells him to return with his body, all the people telling harry to hold on and then his parents...eventually leading into dumbledores speech. I guess what I'm trying to say is that the aftermath of cedirc's death was more disturbing to me than when it actually happened. I had the same reaction when reading OotP--sirius died so suddenly...it was lupins reaction and then harry in dd's office that made sirius' death so upsetting.

What do you mean, Sirius leaves nobody?
LOL, he leaves no body - as in "nothing to bury". His body went through the veil - no grave for Sirius Black,.... no tomb, no slow sleep of death embalmed...;)

It wasn't so much Cedric's, Sirius's, or even Lilly and James's deaths that took me, it was more Mr Bryce's "He was a Wizard then heh? You fight him kid, you fight him." It was just like, well hold on a minute, the only link that this guy's got with Harry is that Harry dreamed about him 10 months ago, so why not just say "Run for you life kiddo!"

maybe in death, good old Mr Bryce was able to learn more about the nature of his own death.

My first reaction to Cedrics death was to flick back a few pages and read it again...it was so sudden. Now i love the deaths int he story. Makes it more interesting and readable

I was in tears. Cedric is the guy we all know.
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But now he is dead, and everything is changed. I cried for him, and what he represents.
It was when Cedric asked Harry to take his body to his parents that I began to cry. Then when Harry is dealing with Cedric's death, and Mrs. Weasley is holding him like a mother I started crying again.
With the chilling, heartless words "kill the spare" a loveable guys dies. I was completely taken by surprise.
It really brought home the power of AK, the fact that this one simple spell took a perfectly healthy boy and made him dead as a door nail
I felt worse about Cedric than I did about Sirius, but I am not sure why.
I agree completely with 'The Prefect' - Although both deaths were complete shocks to me, for some reason I was more upset about Cedric's than Sirius'. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that Cedric didn't even get a chance to do anything to stop it, just *boom* portkey--->dead.
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I don't know what it is, but whenever I get to Cedric's death, even now when I know that it's coming, I cry. But with Sirius I don't. Maybe it's just because Harry takes care of that part for me :/
What got to me was not Cedric's death per se, but the plea of his ghost: "Harry, take my body back to my parents". He wanted his loved ones to have a chance to bury him, a chance to have some closure.

Harry risked his life to do this for Cedric's parents. Then Sirius dies and leaves no body. How tragically ironic. :sad:These are the quotes that seem to sum up how I felt about Cedric's death. Strange that I burst into tears immediately when Cedric was dead, but didn't cry at all over Sirius. Maybe it's harder to mourn when there's no body. Maybe it was the whole sense that Cedric died through absolutely no fault of his own, while maybe Sirius would still be around if he had just stayed put like he was supposed to. I dunno....

Cedrics death came completly out of left field...maybe it was because we were just told that a character was going to die...there was no hints as to who it was going to be...

besides, it happened so suddenly that I had no time to react! I wasnt exactly sad that Cedric's character...specifically died...just the idea of it made me very upset...a grown man can kill a very young person without flinching...that LV truly wanted a 14 year old boy dead...and he wanted him to suffer...

I laughed.

I was more worried if Harry would ever recover from it, then feel sorry for Cedric's family, and upset about him dying. That sounds really horrible of me though.

When I read it I just froze and could not believe. I read it twice and couldn't believe. I was stunned. And I said to myself: this book is not for young children. It was way too tough and too strong because he was just an inocent, ir wasn't is fault that he was there, he had nothing to do with anything. It was really a shame.

Cedric's death was sad, but I wasn't shocked at all. Why? My sister ruined it for me! She was mad about something while I was about halfway through GoF and yelled "Guess what? Cedric DIES!" I was like "Thanks for that..." :(

Well cedrics death came as quite a suprise because i thought that instead of killing the spare, they would use hoim against harry, eg the imnperius curse, and voldemort would know full well that harry would nopt hurt cedric, altho i soppose killing him could of brought a lot of shock to him leaving him vunerable, although he was with voldemort and his faithful death eaters, so he would naturally be vunurable, but either way cedrics death did come as a shock to me, a sad shock, but JKR made the whole thing sound so perfect with the reaction of everybody!

^I would be p.o.ed. I was more relieved that it was Cedric, which sounds horrible, but it was only because I was expecting Sirius to die, but I was a book early. On later readings, I get teary eyed at Dumbledore's speech and sometimes the priori incantatem I have to put away for a while. The aftermath is much worse than Cedric's death as happening was, I don't think he even knew he what happened, until he died. What a very sad book.

I was sooo shoked. I still can´t believe this. You think you a reading an entertaining childrens book, I mean they fly around on broomsticks to play ball games, excuse me, and then... I didn´t believe it. I put the book down every other page and thought through how he could not be dead. Then he came out of the wand and I was sure he would just go back in his body. Then the other people including Harrys parents came out, wich was a little frustating at first but I made up this plan that the gohst/shadows put there energy together so that Cedric can live again. I didn´t give up my hope until ... when exactly have I given up hope? Are you all sure he can´t come back?

He was so innocent and good and handsome, an only child, his father loved him so much, he would have had such a good life. And his death was totally senseless. I hate DD for not cancelling the tournament!

I didn't react much to it. The whole re-birth scene and duel with Voldemort were so scary that Cedric getting killed right before it doesn't really sink in. My friend was more bothered by it. She felt like it was really unnecessary for a character to die- any character, I guess. I don't know, though. I didn't feel very bad about Diggory.

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?
My first thoughts were "That was sudden."

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?
I was shocked that he just...died. Just like that. Then I paused for a little and felt bad because I liked him as a character - loyal (a Hufflepuff, after all), humble, athletic, just a good person.
Were you saddened by it?
Definately
Shocked?
Yeah
Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?
I've only read it once :blush:

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?

Shocked because I excepted someone more important to die.

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?

Yeah, but I still really liked him! of course, Sirius's death didn't affect me either, just Harry's reaction to the death.

Were you saddened by it?

Not really

Shocked?

Because I never thought he was super-important? yeah.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?

A little. But I still don't care that much.

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?

Surprised he was killed off without being able to fight or something.

Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?

Sorta...

Were you saddened by it?

I'm a heartless beast.

Shocked?

Surprised he was killed off without being able to fight or something.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?

Not really. It was quite something to worry about the dreams Harry was having, though.

I think I was more relieved that Cedric died. I had heard that someone was going to die months before GOF was released and I thought it was going to be someone important.

How did you feel when you read Cedric's death?


I was really sad. I felt that he was nice to Harry and while he wasn't a major character I grew fond of him. I actually cried.


Were you unaffected, because he was a "trivial character"?

Um, see above?


Were you saddened by it?
...


Shocked?

Yes... especially since there really wasn't a fight, and he was the last person I would have guessed. It seems like he just got in the way and got the ax because of it. Poor Cedric.

Has that initial feeling changed with more readings?

Well I know what's coming now, so I don't cry, but it's still sad.