Significance of Harry's green eyes?

Why does J.K. Rowling constantly bring up the fact that Harry has his mother's eyes. In an interview she said it was of significance. I wonder how.

LOL Mrs. Weasley always gives him green clothes and says, "They bring out your eyes."

Isn't it weird that Voldemort has red eyes and Harry green, I would expect Voldemort having green, as it is a Slytherin color.

This should be one of the things that are revealed in Book 5. But do green eyes mean anything? There was an entire thread on how the meaning of the names of the characters totally matched their personalities. JKR certainly does a lot of research - green eyes could possibly have some sort of hidden meaning.

I think you might be reading a little bit too much into it. Harry has Green Eyes, he got them from his mother. Everytime Harry hears he has his mothers eyes he knows they are truely not gone as long as he lives...

Originally posted by lanifiel
I think you might be reading a little bit too much into it. Harry has Green Eyes, he got them from his mother. Everytime Harry hears he has his mothers eyes he knows they are truely not gone as long as he lives...

I'm with this. Everybody looks to much into the fact that they're green, rather than the fact that they're like his mother's.

Of course, you can't tell what is important and what isn't. I just find it strange that everybody goes one route.

There's been a few topics on this before. The signifance of green eyes anyway.

I think he just inherited his mom's eyes too.
Now if both parents had blue eyes and his were green I'd be suspicious.

I wasn't exactly referring to the eyes being green, but rather to the eyes as a whole. i know that there has to be something behind them, because they are brought up over and over. One major thing I've noticed throughout literature, is that when it is brought up again and again, it usually is of significance, especially with JKR.

I agree with most of you on this. Everyone who knew his parents said how much he looked like his father, except for the fact that he had his mother's green eyes. I think somehow this will have some importance later in the series....but I guess we'll have to find out.

I heard this bogus rumor that one of the last two books in the series will be called 'Harry Potter and the Green Flame Torch' and the emphasis of the whole book will be Harry's eyes. *shrugs* I don't really believe it myself, but JK Rowling wouldn't bring up his eyes so much if she wasn't going to do 'something' with them later, would she??

The fact that she hinted at something in an interview is also worth noting!

Now, can I ask you: are there any special wizarding powers in your world that depend on the wizard using their eyes to do something? Bit like…
Why do you want to know this?
I just vaguely wondered.
Why?
Well because everyone always goes on about how Harry's got Lilly Potter's eyes?
Aren't you smart? There is something, maybe, coming about that. I'm going to say no more. Very clever.

--- BBC News interview, Autumn 2000

You're right cat...
And I believe that it does not necessarily have to do with having green eyes, but that they are infact the extact same as his mothers. Perhaps it has to do with leaving behind a part of herself? Something like the protection she left him when she died?

*notice i said something LIKE that protection.. I know that JK would not use the same idea twice. :)

In an interview J K said it is important that he has his mothers eyes and tha her wand was very good with charms. So yes you are right. It does mean somthing, If j k says so.

YEs. JK said it was significant..so it is significant. JK wouldn't lie to us. And, well....his eyes will be important somehow. Lily might have left behind herself and stuff. But..ummm....let me see...But does he ever act like Lily? Where have we seen this. Lisort of strikes me as a HErmione gone Marauder type of girl. Which is what HErmione will start doing. She will be very good at class but after they are over she turns into a mischevious rule breaking girl.

I was looking up the signifcance of the color green and I was able to find out a few things--some interesting stuff if you think about what it could mean.

In religion:

Green: Symbol of nature; signifies hope of eternal life

Hmm, hope of eternal life. It seems that immortality will play a big part of the book, especially now that Voldemort is back in his body and looking for it. I think that maybe his green eyes signify something about him having to do something with immortality, the reason why they were trying to kill him.

Months:
August is deep green. Its birthstone is the Periodot which signifies married happiness

Does Lily have anything to do with August? Maybe after book 5, we will have a better guess at this.

It's my first post here, and I don't even know if this is helpful, but if it isn't I am sorry, if it is then I am very very relieved.

In an interview J K said it is important that he has his mothers eyes and tha her wand was very good with charms. So yes you are right. It does mean somthing, If j k says so.

I think that info was very helpful. I read the same thing on charms and agree that JKR wouldn't tell us something and lie, she is not that type of author.

I am not quite sure about that...I think there are already bunch people who have green eyes..If he has really unique color eyes, then it has something important.

Like how Voldemort has red eyes?

Well Voldemort has gone through so many transformations that he isn't human any more so thats why he has red eyes. Tom Riddle would have had normal coloured eyes.

As for the significance of Harry's eyes, it is obviously going to be important (JK said so!) but I think its the fact that his eyes are like Lily's that will be important not that they are green. Harry resembles his father in every other way, so it must have some relevance. What that is, I couldn't tell you.

Originally posted by daredevildiver13
Isn't it weird that Voldemort has red eyes and Harry green, I would expect Voldemort having green, as it is a Slytherin color.

This point interests me a lot, although I'm pretty sure Harry would be branded as evil if he was the one with red eyes.

*off topic, but kind of interesting* Around about the time Harry (PS) was being written there was a general election here in the UK. (I'm not exactly sure of the timings so someone correct me if I'm wrong). The Tory party (at the time a UK equivalent of the Republican Party, sort of) ran a negative add campaign, demonising the Labour (sort of Democrat) Party leader, portraying him with red eyes. Older UK members may remember this and I'm wandering if the ad campain had any influence on LV's appearance.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/1120000/images/_1123777_demonpa300.jpg

In the graveyard scene at the end of the GoF that Harry's wand beam is red and Voldermort's is green. Naturally, their wand beams are their respective 'House' colours. But I think it's interesting because of the contrast with their respective eye colours and JKR kind of made an issue of it. I wander where it'll lead

Myrddin, red eyes are a classic symbol of an evil person. It didn't start with that ad.

My bunny used to have red eyes and he was evil. He growled, bit and was larger than many kinds of dog.

Originally posted by Cat
My bunny used to have red eyes and he was evil. He growled, bit and was larger than many kinds of dog.

I had a red-eyed (hence) albino bunny. It got eaten by a wild cat.

That particular ad campaign was huge, billboards, tv ads, the works really and it even won awards. While aware that red eyes are a 'traditionally' a symbol of evil, I was wandering if events in the UK, like for instance the ad, had been woven into the fabric of the Potter Universe. I'll also admit it's unlikely and I really just posted the picture becasue I thought it was cool......;)

And don't foget the anti-Potter people saying green is Satan's favourite colour...along with almost all other colours in existence...

Surely green is more than just the Slytherin colour. McGonagall wore green robes in chapter 1 of PS I think, but she's still head of Gryffindor.

Originally posted by Puffskein
And don't foget the anti-Potter people saying green is Satan's favourite colour...along with almost all other colours in existence...


Sure! Grass is evil. Leaves are evil. Frogs are evil. The sofa and chair in my living room is evil.

What kind of mentality does it take to call a colour evil?

Anyway... do any snakes have red eyes? I always depict them with yellow eyes. You would have thought she'd have given Voldemort yellow eyes. But red has connotations with blood and rage, whereas green is purity (and envy, but ignore the ones that don't fit, that usually works). Green is also a more earthy, natural colour (not that red isn't natural). Green is all about life (well, it is in plants).

The fact that their green is just because green is a...uh...naturalish color, and...stuff. But it matters more that he has his mother's eyes. Heck, they could have been purple or orange, it would just matter that he had his mothers eyes, which would signify that...he might have...some of the same powers his mother had...i dunno. But his eyes do matter. They're mentioned A LOT in the books.

THe color is not the important thing!! J K says in an interview that it IS important that Harry has his mother's eyes and that her wand was very good with charms. J K doesn't say that his eye color is important! Maybe his mother had a good inner eye and could see the future. Maybe it's somthing else!AndI don't think it matters that green is slytherin color! Green eyes are a natural color! Hold on! Wait!!! Are there any otherrr characters with green eyes????? I can't think of any! I know there have to be!

there has to be but JKR doesn't stress them

maybe the green-ness relates to that in book five we wil learn something "huge" about lily potter, and alot of the rumors are spreading that lily was once a death eater, and her green eyes are the color of slytherin house colors,(the house that's turned out more dark wizards and witches than any other). harry has the same green eyes, so maybe it hints the bit of evil he has? maybe when voldemort tried to kill him his eyes changed to gren from something else, i dunno. green symbolizes go in street lights, and is usually noted for that, and red is for stop. green as envy, red as anger. green as plants, red as fire. fire burns plants and kills them. maybe that's another reason why harry's escape from voldemort is such a mystery- that a plant can survive a fire(figuratively speaking- harry's the plant, voldemort is the fire) i dunno i'm just saying stuff, so please catch me if i'm wrong. thanks!

o! crookshanks has green eyes. doesn't ginny and mrs weasley have green eyes too? i don't remember. :??:

harrypottergirl333 - I agree, I don't think it's the colour that is important, I think it's the fact he has his mother's eyes. Harry has qualities and stuff from his father, his talent at Quidditch and the form of his Patronus - in the same way I think we'll see that he has something of his mother in him that also helps to make him the great wizard he is/will be.

We know that Voldemort's eyes are red. Do we know what colour Tom Riddle's were? I am assuming that they weren't red which means that one of the spells that he who must not be named cast on himself changed the colour of his eyes.

Roz.

Like I've said before, Harry is good at Charms.

There are several other threads about the red/green significance in the books.

Harry has his mother's eyes. There is a theory that Lily was a seer--able to predict the future in some way. Harry has shown some talent there--again threads about that, too, and maybe that is the link between them. Alternatively, green eyes are unusual and mysterious, It adds to his legend--the boy who lived with the green eyes.

At least it's his eyes and not his hair. :p :rotfl: :elaugh: :rasp: :D

I also think that Harry's eyes are special because they are like his moms and because of the colour. Otherwise why is it possible that many people remember Lily's eyes? They must have been VERY special to be remembered so much. Green eyes are not so rare, so there must be something else. Maybe the green colour is specially strong...

I'm just thinking... could it be that everybody notices Harry's eyes because James was the one with special eyes and he hasnt inheritated them? Let me explain better: We know Harry is just like James, except for the eyes, so maybe James had very beautiful or special eyes (like Dumbledore) and thats why everybody sees the difference between both. What do you think?

(dont take my words to seriously, Im a bit sleepy...)

It's not impossible, but I think it's more likely that people notice because Lily and therefore Harry have special eyes.

I think so too, but you know, JKR always makes us think something is that simple and then the unexpected happends. Actually, thats what makes the books so good

I think that it could be either. We just don't know.

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YEs. JK said it was significant..so it is significant. JK wouldn't lie to us. And, well....his eyes will be important somehow. Lily might have left behind herself and stuff. But..ummm....let me see...But does he ever act like Lily? Where have we seen this. Lisort of strikes me as a HErmione gone Marauder type of girl. Which is what HErmione will start doing. She will be very good at class but after they are over she turns into a mischevious rule breaking girl.
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I kinda doubt this. Hermonie is going to be a Prefect and eventually Head Girl. She's too Percy like to become a maurauder.

green eyes have to mean something...it's always being brought up...why then did they let mr. radcliffe keep his blue eyes? i just think its a bit odd to stress the color of harry's eyes so much and then cast an actor with blue eyes, not that i'm objecting to the casting job...it was perfect but it just bothers me to see harry potter with blue eyes.

He tried to use contacts to have green eyes, but he couldnt wear them (he is alergic or somethirng). They also thought of changing the colour using the computer but it looked very strange, thats why he is still having blue eyes.
Anyway, in some scenes, depending on the light and other things he has green eyes (they change between blue and green)

oooooohhhh ok. well that makes sense then. thanks for the info, i was unaware.:sorry:

Originally posted by doctor23

I kinda doubt this. Hermonie is going to be a Prefect and eventually Head Girl. She's too Percy like to become a maurauder.

No offence, but it always makes me laugh when people call rule-breakers 'marauders' because of the map. Marauding is one step up from breaking petty rules, don't you think?

I can just imagine Hermione going a-plundering. Loot for booty, maties!

In posters of Harry Potter they digitally edit his eyes. It looks very fake though.

It would be great to see Hermione become a Head Girl and still break as many rules as she can with her two friends!! :)

She's lightened up a lot since PS. Remember that James was Head Boy, I wonder if he stopped marauding during his headship?

Maybe she will even increase the "rulebreaking" if she becomes a Head girl... She can wander alone at night without being punished... sounds good!

here's just something i picked up:

Ruby marks the month of July as it's birthstone. It will be found in varying shades of red; deep, clear stones are desirable. Some may have seen "star rubies", these are cabachon (domed) stones that reflect an asterisk light effect on the domed surface. When flawless, a Ruby is more valuable than a diamond.

Historically, the Ruby is associated with royalty & the power or life and death. It was attributed the power to prevent loss of blood, strengthen the heart, and negate poisons. They are a cousin to the Sapphire.

and this

September birthdays are represented by the Sapphire. Sapphire can be found in a rainbow of colors, all but red. (Red Sapphire is actually Ruby, it's cousin!) There are also "star sapphires"- which are domed stones that show a star-light effect on the top.

Sapphires are traditionally connected with the eye & the sky- therefore with vision & the ability to read the future. Sapphires render black magic harmless, and help the wearer discern falsehoods. Buddhists believe the Sapphire brings purity & spiritual enlightenment.
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it doesnt really make sense, though.

First, to anyone who says that color doesn't mean anything, keep this in mind: it might not have to do with anything directly related to the plot, but authors often use color to depict emotion or a certain feeling something should have. I don't know how many of you have read it, but The Red Badge of Courage is a perfect example of using color in a sensory way.
The second thing I would like to add is maybe those who say color means nothing are right; maybe it simple means that Harry carries something of his mother's and that his parents are important to who he is. Get what I mean?
Lastly, I would like to say that maybe the connection between the green of Harry's eyes and the red of Voldemort's eyes is simply to do with contrast. Harry and Voldemort are foils to each other, therefore it could be a symbol. Red and green are opposites on the color wheel, so we can deduct that Harry and Voldemort are opposites as well....Unless John Woo was right and ever hero/villain duo is two sides of the same coin...but I digress.


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Who else has green eyes in the book!??!!?? I know there has to be someone! Crookshanks has yellow, not green. I think Ginny's are brown but I'm not sure!!! Someone type in a character with green eyes!!! I know theere has to be one!!

hmmm i've heard red, yellow, blue and brown, but only one case of green that i can think of offhand. does anyone know what color tom riddle's eyes were in Chamber of Secrets?

I know one character with green eyes apart from Harry... his mother ;) just joking!! I've looked it up in COS and there's no mention about Riddle's eyes, only his jet-black hair

all i know is that JKR has based MANY things in the story on greek mythology...I read about the God of Hunt, or someone in greek myths who has red eyes, but I cant seem to remember who it was.

Artemis? The way I see it is that JKR puts everything down for a reason. when authors write they don't randomly write something. many things are used as symbols and to express the mood. JKR's careful research and planning makes me think of everything differently the second time i read it. yes, i have definitely seen a lot of greek mythology. there are just so many parallels and allusions to countless cultures and works . speaking of greek mythology, cerebrus the three headed dog can be compared to fluffy. the sphinx in book four shows up in oedipus rex in thebes. this si just the beginning of examples so with this known, perhaps there is something behind the eyes, it may just be symbolism, but there must be SOMETHING, anything there

You mention that Voldemort has red eyes, but that's after he gets a new body. In book 2 when Harry comes face to face with Tom Riddle, Tom has GREEN eyes. I think Harry must be related to Voldie through Lilly, which explains why he didn't want to kill her, but did when she got in the way ("Get out of the way, silly girl!"). This would also mean Harry's related to Slytherin. AND Dumbledore says that "only a true Gryffindor" could have pulled Godric's sword from the sorting hat in book 2. AND the Potters lived in Godric's Hollow. So I think Harry's related to Gryffindor through his dad, and Slytherin through his mom. He is the coming together (thus the sorting hat's dilemma in book 1).... it all comes down to family ties!

slightly star wars but it is not the background that we have, it is what we make of ourselves. if you are born with hitler's blood, does it make you evil? if you are born with churchill's benevolent nature, does that mean you'll do good. NO. i think that JKR is saying that regardless of family ties, our choices define our character. even if harry does have slytherin blood, it is the fact that he wanted to be gryffindor (aka on the good side) that got him into gryffindor. i dont believe that harry has slytherin though, the point is that blood doesn't make you anything.

u sure Tom has green eyes??? where did u find it book or movie? What page? And if he really does have green eyes than maybe it represents immortal or somthing

Where does it say that Riddle has green eyes?!? I looked it up and found nothing about his eyes, only his hair

me either, maybe in the movie???

Maybe it's somehow significant that Harry doesn't look identical to his father...? He's already mistaken himself for his dad once, but he was too distant to see the eyes then.

It's no theory of mine, it's just a very vague train of thought.

Originally posted by harrypottergirl333
me either, maybe in the movie???

Your assumption is correct, my friend. Christian Coulson who played Tom Riddle in the film has green-ish eyes. It is not stated anywhere in the books what colour Tom Riddle's eyes are. No doubt had they been the same colour has Harry's, Riddle would have delighted in pointing out this similarity also.

Tom Riddle's eye color was never mentioned in any of the books.

I think JK keeps going on about Harry's eye color because that was the distinctive thing about his mother, and so it's the obvious tie to Lily, but personally, i think that it is that less-obvious tie that is important, not the shared eye color. The eyes are what everyone notices though.

And as for the family ties theory, in every book JK has put emphasis on the fact that "It is our choices who show who we are, far more than our abilities" It doesn't matter who your ancestors were, only what you choose. I wonder how voldy figured out that he was the heir of slytherin . . . maybe he turned evil because he thought he had a reputation to live up to . . . ?

just a bunch of speculation . . :)

His eyes were the main thing Harry got from his mother's side of the family. The fact that they are green and no one else is mentioned to have them is interesting, but doesn't necessarily have to mean anything. It just symbolizes that Lily was...different...special.

Well, I guess the significance of Harry's green eyes are that he got them his mother side, and that's how like see the resemblence between them two and like his eyes are the only thing that reminds him of Lily.

And a combination of green eyes with black hair is weird...

Green is used a lot in the book, like the green representing the Slytherin House, snakes, the green light that killed so many, but I don't know if this has anything to do with their green eyes...Rowling doesn't put in these details for no reason, but it's hard to predict what she was intending with this. I don't think it means Lily was a death eater or that Harry is evil...but I'm sure we'll be a step closer to finding out once hp5 comes out. I mean, I have green eyes and my parents don't...maybe Rowling is trying to show the connection between Lily and Harry, just as you all have said, but we can't really surmise what is going on in her mind for certain..

Oh and I agree with daredevildiver13 very much..it is our choices, not our family tree, that define who we are.

It doesnt matter what color eyes the Character who played tom riddle had. If its not in the books then its not important but WHO ELSE HAS GREEN EYES?? thats all I can think about. I cant think of any green eyed people besides Lily and HArry!

i don't think that Lily was a deatheater either. and she was in gryffindor so they don't stand for slytherin

why is everyone going on about Lilly being a death eater?? What CAHRACTER HAS GREEN EYES?!?!?!?!?! Im gonna go insane trying to fnd one lol!

No other character besides Harry Potter and Lily's family have green eyes. That means there is something special about Lily's side of the family, right?

i think so

Maybe something will be revealed soon. Does anyone think that the eyes have to do with the rumored "green flame torch"? Green, Green, Green!
Green robes
Green eyes
Green Light
And much more.

Yes, there is a lot of pressure on color in the books, especially green, golden, red, and silver.

DOBBY HAS GREEN EYES!!! I just read it!

I just read it too, but what is that supposed to show? Dobby's not a wizard.

I know, its just the only other character I could find with green eyes and maybe there is a reason why the only green eyed characters are:
1. Dobby
2. Harry
3. Lily

Well maybe Harry belonged in Slytherin for his Green Eyes....Many people already said this i imagine, just touching up on it.

Dobby's eyes shouldn't be of any particular importance. He's just a magical creature, not a wizard. Not anything close to a wizard, actually.

Dumbledore already told Harry that when Voldemort gave Harry the scar, he also transferred some of the qualities that Salazer Slytherin prized in his students. It has nothing to do with the eyes

Yes I agree, but why did JKR make the eyes green and why does she continue to draw attention to it. If she writes "that sweater really brings out your eyes" one more time, then I will know for sure that I am right.

Maybe it was to emphasize that he has his mother's eyes...

JKR puts a whole lot of emphasis on the color green overall I think.

YES!!!

Like the flames of floo powder turn emerald green, so is the writing on the hogwarts letters, and lots more I cant think of right now, but I know that there are a whole lot of references to the color green.

Just like McGonagall's robes. There are lots in book One.

Green eyes must mean something important for the books. I think JK said something about it being important for the plot in one of the interviews, and she is the boss...

It's definitely important, but maybe not for the (or by the) reasons we are thinking.

yeah, who knows what it could be

Originally posted by Aramis Diggle
Well maybe Harry belonged in Slytherin for his Green Eyes....Many people already said this i imagine, just touching up on it.

I don't think the Sorting Hat places people by their eye colour...

yeah cause then every hufflepuff would have yellow eyes and the gryffindors would have red!

It is quite interesting that voldemort has red eyes, and harry has green eyes dont you think? And how did voldemorts eyes become red? because when he was known as tom riddle he had green eyes.

Tom Riddle's eye-color is unknown!

I thought that Lily Potter had green eyes because green eyes and red hair is traditionally a sign of a witch.

Because of this, I wouldn't be surprised to see many people at Hogwarts with red hair and green eyes.

It is interesting to note that Lily's sister does not have green eyes and red hair.

Hello my little ones...
I don't really know about the significance of the green eyes.
However, it does bother me that Young Mr. Radcliffe has bright BLUE eyes. If the green was significant, don't you think JKR would have insisted that Dan R. have green contacts to be true to the story? Hmmmm.....

Originally posted by mrsweasley
However, it does bother me that Young Mr. Radcliffe has bright BLUE eyes. If the green was significant, don't you think JKR would have insisted that Dan R. have green contacts to be true to the story? Hmmmm.....

That is what I have always thought too, He really should have green contacts. When book 5 is made into a movie the eyes are so important they need to have the contacts for that.

Ummm...I'm pretty sure that this has already been stated on this thread, but young Mr. Radcliffe could not wear the green contacts due to an allergic reaction.

come on, he could have worn the contacts, allergy or not, for the movie:grumble: lol, actually, i'm sure it must have been pretty horrible for them to have gone on with the movie without one of the most significant parts of harry potter...but still...harry with blue eyes is a bit of a downer...:(

Mirabella is right, this has already been cleared in THIS thread, so please read what other people wrote before posting. :devil:
By the way, it doesn't matter how important green eyes could be, if Daniel is allergic, he CAN'T wear contacts, unless you wanted a red-eyed or blind Harry. :

Back to topic: red hair and green eyes were supposed to be a witch sign because they were strange and unusual in many places, but I ignore if JK is going to use it as a symbol of magical power in the books (could be)

*If* book 5 is ever made into a movie, it is highly unlikely that Daniel Radcliffe will still be playing Harry. So maybe they will be able to find an actor with naturally green eyes or one who can wear green contacts.

Originally posted by Expelliorma~
No other character besides Harry Potter and Lily's family have green eyes. That means there is something special about Lily's side of the family, right?

I like this idea.
Also, I don't think it's highly unlikey that Dan will not play in OotP if made into a movie. I would just say it's 50/50.

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Sorry, Mirabella ( I think it was).
I'm new to this forum and read a lot of the previous
memos. But, I wanted to add my two cents.
Anyway, as long as he wants to, I don't see why young Mr. Radcliffe couldn't still be Harry in OoP.
With all the computerized FX, I'm sure they can make his eyes green. Still curious to see what JKR's cooked up next.
TTFN,
Mum Weasley

Originally posted by mrsweasley
Sorry, Mirabella ( I think it was).
I'm new to this forum and read a lot of the previous
memos. But, I wanted to add my two cents.
Anyway, as long as he wants to, I don't see why young Mr. Radcliffe couldn't still be Harry in OoP.
With all the computerized FX, I'm sure they can make his eyes green. Still curious to see what JKR's cooked up next.
TTFN,
Mum Weasley

I would have thought that too. Maybe they didn't have the time to digitally go back and fix his eye color for every close-up.

I think they did try to digitally alter the eye color, but decided it looked too fake. And Daniel and Co. have only signed to three films. Some people think they will be too old to play in GoF and OotP, and they may themselves want to move on to other things. Personally, I'd rather they continue with the series than see new actors in the roles, but I still think it's unlikely.

I wonder what color eyes the weasleys have?

allergic to contacts? They could've changed the colour with a computer..technology has developed...
I always imagined them with brown eyes...but blue wuld suite them aswell.

I saw a poster with digital eyes and they looked extremely fake. Freaky even.

If it's done corectly, any digital manipulation can look real, it's just time consuming.

They really tried but it was very strange and looked really bad. Besides, Daniel has changing eye colours, from blue to green, so sometimes you can see he actually has green eyes.
I'd love to see the three of them making all the movies, but unless they stop growing at a normal rate it seems unlikely. They say GOF will be 2 movies because it's too long... imagine OOTP... In the end they would have to make ... at least 9 movies!!

I also heard Chris Columbus wants to do GoF at a two parter. I heard that when he comes back to direct GoF they will release one at the end of summer beginning of fall and make it a cliff hanger. Then have the conclusion released around Christmas. I think making it two parts is a good idea. There is just too much information to cram into one movie that wouold end up being four hours long and I'm not talking about the director's cut!!!

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You're right, it would be a too long movie (even if we love a long Harry Potter movie). And if they release both parts in the same year we won't have to wait long. I guess where are they going to cut the book, and how are they going to name the movies... Harry Potter and the goblet of fire part 1 doesn't sound too good.

(sorry for being a bit off topic)

What is sooo important with Harry´s green eyes? I really have no idea, I just know something about colours in general.

When I read the postings I suddenly remembered my art lessons when I was student at a german school.

Goethe created the theory of the colours.

First at all: green is a very common colour in the nature (plants, grass and so on) but it isn´t a basic colour! Green is a mix of blue and yellow.

Blue represents peace, air and depth (depression), but also eveness and equanimity.
Yellow represents light, fun but also indifference.

Green represents hope and life.

Green is the anti-colour to red!

Interesting fact red is a basic colour!
Red represents blood, heat and fire, aggression but also strength, bravery and power.

No coloures are so diffrent from each other than green and red. If you mix them you will not get any new colour just an ugly looking green or red.

Maybe therefore Harry´s or his mum´s eyes are so important, because they represent the opposite side of magical powers to Voldi´s magical powers?

Just an idea, hope it helps.

i think green is red's compliment or something like that. like orange is to blue and yellow is to purple.

I think the color of his has someting to do with book 6, which is rumour to be called HP and the Green Flame Torch or something like that.

that's only a rumour, but assuming it is true (which I doubt) then I also think you are right, we will know the significance of the green eyes in book 6.

JK said it is important in book 5 and she is the bss who decides. Anyway it may not be important that HArry has green eyes, but that he has his mothers eyes. JK sais that the profession of the Potters is also important in book 5. MAybe she was a sere or somthing. I dot know.

i like that possibility but i was thinking something with charms

To reply to an earlier post, I think it's important to read too much into the subtle hints. JKR has proven that everything she puts in her books is there for a reason. Maybe Lily Potter is more a part of Harry than we know. Perhaps she transferred some part of her existence into Harry the moment she died, and that existence has yet to resurface. Or maybe there's something dreadful in her past that will greatly warp Harry's perception of her. Only time will tell...

June 21st, please hurry up!

:) maybe he "really" has his mother's eyes ;)

You know, I commented on the fact that red and green are opposites on the color wheel a few posts back. I don't think anyone read it... :(
Originally posted by RonFan24 (posted here (showthread.php?postid=154275#154275))
First, to anyone who says that color doesn't mean anything, keep this in mind: it might not have to do with anything directly related to the plot, but authors often use color to depict emotion or a certain feeling something should have. I don't know how many of you have read it, but The Red Badge of Courage is a perfect example of using color in a sensory way.
The second thing I would like to add is maybe those who say color means nothing are right; maybe it simple means that Harry carries something of his mother's and that his parents are important to who he is. Get what I mean?
Lastly, I would like to say that maybe the connection between the green of Harry's eyes and the red of Voldemort's eyes is simply to do with contrast. Harry and Voldemort are foils to each other, therefore it could be a symbol. Red and green are opposites on the color wheel, so we can deduct that Harry and Voldemort are opposites as well....Unless John Woo was right and ever hero/villain duo is two sides of the same coin...but I digress.

No coloures are so diffrent from each other than green and red. If you mix them you will not get any new colour just an ugly looking green or red.
Acutally all complimentary colors make a mucky brown.

I think we read it, but that had been already said by someone else, that's why anybody said anything about it. Sorry if we ignored you a little bit.:)

JK seems to give some importance to the colors in the books, so possibly it's not a coincidence that Harry has green eyes and Voldemort red ones. It could also mean that none of them is "pureblood" because they have the eyes of their enemy's colour (red-gryffindor, green-slytherin), or even that they are somehow related to that house. Maybe Voldemort is the heir of Gryffindor!! 8)

Sorry, it's too late and I'm sleepy...

i really doubt that voldemort is gryffindor related. but i do think that harry is the heir of gryffindor.

I think that also, but I just keep thinking weird possibilities, you know, nobody knows how JK really thinks, so anything could be possible.

Yeah, you never know what JK will throw at you! It actually is a good thing to think up insane theories because remember the sirious black incident. i never thought of it.

Originally posted by LadyofthePensieve (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=164188#post164188))
Green is the anti-colour to red!


In the Mario games Mario is red and Luigi is green, and they are brothers.

Voldemort's eyes only became red after all those experiments he did to himself to reach immortality. I think the original eye color is supposed to matter, if eye-colors do matter.

yes, but why red eyes? Why didn't they turned green or yellow? It could be red as a meaning of agressivity and hate, but it could also have another meaning.

I didn't go through and read what everyone else said so I don't know if this idea has already been mentioned. But Harry has his mother's eyes. We are told by JKR that we will know the importance of why her eyes are green. Obviously it's more than just a characteristic if JKR is mentioning that it's important. But why? I think we will find out about Lily's background and it's connection is the eyes.

Green is closely connected to Slythern. While we think Harry could be the heir to Griffindor (on the Potter side) he could also be the heir to Slythern. Voldermont was the heir and his powers were transferred into Harry. So the green eyes could be an interlude into the fact that he is the heir. Voldermont has red eyes. Red is the opposite of green in all aspects of the color spectrum. You can buy green concealer to cover up red blimishes. Teenagers have pimples!...I'm kidding.

There's also some connection between Voldermont and Lily. He wasn't going to kill her but he did because she got in the way of killing Harry. I think he may have been trying to kill the heir to Griffindor and Lily is married into the line but not an heiress.

Either way, the eyes are an important fact.

Absolutely.

Brainfart... Did JKR ever confirm that Lily was in Gryffindor? If not, I bet she was in Slytherin. I'm only saying this because we know almost nothing about her besides that her eyes were green and she was Harry's mum. JKR likes to surprise us with things like this. Sorry if something like this was posted already, I only skimmed the basic idea in each post.

Wait, let me get this straight. If James was the heir of Gryffindor and Lily was the heir of Slytherin, wouldn't Harry cancel them both out? Jeez, this is confusing. Why would Voldemort want to kill the heir of Slytherin... unless Voldemort is ALSO an heir... okay, I'm thoroughtly confused. Somebody else should take over this wild tangent.

I read an interiew where JKR says that Lily WAS a Gryffindor. I thought the same thing until I read the interview.

That's right, she was a gryffindor, and James too, of course

I wonder what color eyes James had!

I think it says somewhere he has brown eyes. HOld on I'll check.

I cant find his I think it may mention that in book 3 but I dont have that one with me. I did find in the section about the mirror of erised that Harry's moms family all have green eyes but why doesn't Petunia? I think Lily was a dopted and iis realy from, a wizard family and that the Evans payed her more attention than Petunia so if she ever found out she was adopted she would feel she still belongs.

Maybe the significance of the eye color is in his mother's sacrifice for him. Maybe he had different colored eyes as a baby and that there might now be a bit of his mother in him. Maybe he'll end up being really really good at charms as well as maybe transfiguration like his father.

Also Harry notices in the mirror of erised that his eyes are the same, not just color, but shape as well. Maybe the color is not the imprtant thing, maybe it is just a clue to show us the similarity of this feature in his family. In the mirro he saw other members of his family, many or all, I cannot remember which, had green eyes just like his. I was sorta zonin out thinking about this, and maybe there is a link not just with his mother but through the family. Like the eyes, not literally of course, are passed down generation by generation on Lily's side of the family. I am also assuming that she was in fact adopted and is not an Evans by blood, but is pure blood. Anyway, I was really going out on a limb and thinking of the possibilty of these blazing green eyes being a sort of secret keeper of Lily's wizard family. Maybe something her great great great etc...grandfather saw or witnessed or something or other, and was hidden in the green eyes. Then through charmwork this was passed down generation to generation, and a by product of this charm passing is the blazing green eyes. Almost as a sign. I have no idea if this makes any sense and I may add more later or fix this up, it sorta just came to me now.

I think the same thing about adoption.

Originally posted by Nys (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=174727#post174727))
Maybe the significance of the eye color is in his mother's sacrifice for him. Maybe he had different colored eyes as a baby and that there might now be a bit of his mother in him. Maybe he'll end up being really really good at charms as well as maybe transfiguration like his father.


I think that the 1-year-old Harry we see in the first film has green eyes also, even in the pictures with his parents, so he couldn't have received the eyes later, he must hava had green eyes since he was born.

About adoption, I also think it is very probable that either Lily or Petunia were adopted, but prefer the idea of Petunia being the adopted one... or even better, the squib of the Evans family.

You can't base anything on the movie though. Some things in the movie aren't like they are in the book.

I think the significance of Harry's eyes is just that he inherited his mothers eyes, just like Harry inherited his fathers unruley hair. If there was some big significant magical thing, I think that JK would have insisted that Dan wear green contacts in the movie, raher than just leave his eyes their natural blue.

Originally posted by spuachi (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=176694#post176694))
I think that the 1-year-old Harry we see in the first film has green eyes also, even in the pictures with his parents, so he couldn't have received the eyes later, he must hava had green eyes since he was born.


In the movies, Harry's eyes are never green, at all. They are always blue, because Daniel Radcliffe's eyes are blue, and the producers/etc. didn't believe it was an important enough feature to digitally change. So as someone already said, you can't really trust the movies since they are not coming from JKR's mouth directly, the books on the other hand are.

I agree with what people have written here in that it's probably not the color which is significant. The fact is, Harry looks "remarkably" like his father in all respects, hair - the color and style, face shape, everything except the eyes. I think that's what's important, he has his mother's eyes, and she was very good at charms, it seems to me that Harry is very good at spells too, he almost always is able to do complicated spells which other people say are incredibly complex, like expecto patronus.

I also think that Hermione mentioned something about eye contact being important in spells to make them happen, this was in the first book at the Quidditch match when they thought Snape was jinxing Harry's broom. Maybe Harry is really good at spells and charms because he has really focused eyes, and since his eyes are his mother's maybe it was a family thing to have focused/shocking eyes.

Originally posted by Andora
In the movies, Harry's eyes are never green, at all. They are always blue, because Daniel Radcliffe's eyes are blue, and the producers/etc. didn't believe it was an important enough feature to digitally change. So as someone already said, you can't really trust the movies since they are not coming from JKR's mouth directly, the books on the other hand are.



We already cleared that here: Dan TRIED to wear green contacts, but he couldn't because he couldn't stand them (allergie, or something like that). They DID change it digitally, but it looked too weird, so they decided to keep the blue eyes. If you see some of the posters of SS you can actually see Dan with green eyes (very green, actually). Another fact to keep Dan's original eyes is that sometimes, depending on the light, he has "naturally green eyes", so there's no need to change them.
As I said we cleared this looong before, so please, read the other posts before posting.

:p

About the movies, I know taht the movies are not a very reliable source of information, but we must also remember that JK supervised many details and even affirmed that there are some hints in the movies that we don't have in the books. I think that the part about James and Lily being killed and Harry surviving is so important that JK must have been very specific about the details there. That's the main point of the whole story, so it must be true to the story.

I read an article about it in Nickelodeon magazine, haha very reliable, and they said that the producers just decided to keep it the original blue. And I have one of the SS posters, I won it the Owl Spotting contest awhile back, and his eyes look pretty blue in it... although maybe it's a different one, I don't know, if you have a copy of it, could you show it to me or something, usually movies are pretty good with digitally changing things.

http://www.violetshadows.com/images/poster.jpg

But I don't know, I didn't read anywhere that the producers tried to make his eyes green, although I do wonder what they're going to do now that it's such a significant part of the plot, they'll probably just overlook the color. They haven't really shown very close pictures of Lily anyway.

Toodles.

I have a Harry Potter Booklet thing from the CoS premiere here in Japan, so I don't know if it is different to those back West. But in this Harry's eyes are bright blue, no room for interpretation. Ron's are green though :p . I'll try and get some pics of it up soon.

I live in the U.S. and i have seen a poster booklet where Harry had digitally remastered green eyes. i don't have a copy though because it was my friend's poster booklet. While the movie might have some accurate information, I don't believe any of it considering the fact that baby Harry is wearing Blue's Clue's pajamas!

Here's a picture of Dan with green eyes... digitallized. In my opinion the eyes look really weird like this... too shiny and unreal. What do you think??

haha harry looks kinda evil in that picture with green eyes

Here's another one. This one is not as clear as the previous one, but still, you can see Dan has greenish eyes.

The first one was the one I saw. It freaks me out.

The first one definitely doesn't look that good, but the second one is from the Chamber of Secrets, wouldn't they have stopped trying after the first few bad attempts?

It's really funny cause Dan is SOO young in the first one, hehe and then he grows all up :)

dan really does look like a proper kiddy inthe first one :-) i dont remember him looking that young in the 1st movie!

But yeah, the green eyes do look kinda evil, and i'm *almost certain* they eyes inheritted from a mother who died to save her son werent supposed to look evil!

I'm a new kid, so please forgive me if I'm on the wrong moving staircase... but is there a thread discussing the importance of eyes? One of the "facts" we know about Book 5 from a JKR interview is that it's important that Harry has Lily's eyes.

Also, there's the matter of Fawkes's tears and Mad Eye Moody...

Any thoughts?

I think the fact of Harry has lily' eyes was discussed on threads. Do a search and try to find it...

Thanks, I did that. Thought it might be worth pulling into one place... esp. since the tears of the Phoenix have magical powers, and this next book is called the Order of the Phoenix -- I thought maybe Lily's tears are important to Harry's protection from Voldemort?

Nice theory! However Lily is dead, so how can sb have her tears?

I guess I thought maybe her tears, when Voldemort was trying to kill Harry, might have contributed to his protection. Part of a charm?

Or maybe her eyes are important to her job, like Mad Eye Moody's magical eye... might give us a hint at Harry's work to come? It's interesting that something inherited, like eye color, is going to be important when other parts of the book stress the importance of actions rather than pedigree (Malfoy / mudbloods).

Just ideas...

harry's and lily's eyes are green, like the color that came out of Volde's wand when performs the death curse. And in bk4 doesn't volde say something about lily's protection being "old magic" that he should have seen coming?

I think she wasn't crying that night. If she had been crying then Harry would've heard it in PoA. How can eye color be important to her job? (Looks like I have no imagination...)

um, yeah. eye color probably isn't the best indicator of future profession. good point. It does seem to be an indicator of *something* important & magical -- you know the saying about eyes being the windows of the soul...

I think in the mirror of erised Harry's dad had glasses but Harry's mom didn't...? I don't think the clue about eyes is about literal sight, then, if Harry needs glasses like his dad.

I hadn't caught that the light is green with the death curse -- very interesting.

Didn't JKR say that Lily's eyes are important in the plot?

Apparently she did in an interview, but did she say the COLOR was the important part? Having someone's eyes could include so much more than the color...shape, size, and perhaps something else that magical people's eyes can do. The color green is used in many places in the books, some bad, some not. I'm not sure the green light necessarily has anything to do with the eye color. Presumably both Lily and Harry had green eyes before they got into the path of Avada Kedavra.

Exactly, GryffindorSeeker... so I'm wondering how? :huh:

I went through all the Book 5 discussion pages and didn't see a theory yet to satisfy my curious self. But there are a lot of smart, creative people on here. Help!

Hi this topic should be merged with Significance of Harry's eyes? (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5125). :)
I think they might be a few more topics on this question as well. :)

yes. In fact, the color of her eyes and I think it has something to do with the Potter's profession. I can't think how, though.

Green is the color of the healer. Could the Potters have been Medical Wizards?
Green is also a Slytherin color.
We think Petunia is a squib. My daughter thinks Lily and Petunia are Voldemort's daughters, Petunia a squib and Lily a "freak" and a "perfect sister". So Volde struck out on both offspring. One a squib, perhaps something he blamed on his muggle father, and one a Gryffindor, something only Petunia saw coming. In PoA when Harry hears V murdering his mother, it's obvious he's not after Lily, but Harry. And he refers to her as "silly girl". Why would he address a full grown woman as "silly girl"? And why would he not just kill her without a second thought? Unless .....
So perhaps the green eyes are indication of an heir of Slytherin who has inherited his powers? Maybe Lily was a parcelmouth, too?
And, have you noticed that many Slytherin women have flower names? Less so among females of other houses with the notable exception being Lily Potter.
Is it possible that Volde himself promised to protect Petunia and members of her household as the daughter who, though a squib, didn't turn against him? When Harry became a member of Petunia's household, V was forced to extend that protection to Harry as well. Powerful magic to protect from V, but not from the wrath of the Dursleys. Is this why Dumbledore insists that Harry return there every summer and remain under their "guardianship"?
And if Dudley isn't the muggle equivalent of a slytherin, I don't know what is. His mother is certainly proud of him. If he is the big V's grandson and he finds his powers, how would Voldemort take it? If Prof Trelawney's first prediction is that V will be killed by his heir, (and we don't know this) and Harry has only slowed him down. Could Dudley be the heir V must fear?
So, if Harry is the heir of Gryffindor on his father's side and the heir of Slytherin on his mother's side, then Harry isn't just fighting this battle of good against evil. Harry is the very battleground it is fought on. His mother's choices tipped the balance. Harry's choices will determine the outcome.

:yup: I'm going to merge this topic with the one Weatherby suggested.

:welcome: to the boards, RogueRiver!

Which reminds me, didn't DD have auburn hair in his youth. I think Lily's hair is auburn, too. I don't think DD is related to Lily, because when they brought Harry to the Dursleys, DD said they were the only family Harry had. So that let's DD off. But what does auburn hair signify? All the redheaded Weasleys are Gryffindors. Maybe it's a clue?

hmmm...not where I thought I was.
OOPS! Sorry. This post doesn't make much sense here. (blush)

Which reminds me, didn't DD have auburn hair in his youth. I think Lily's hair is auburn, too. I don't think DD is related to Lily, because when they brought Harry to the Dursleys, DD said they were the only family Harry had. So that let's DD off. But what does auburn hair signify? All the redheaded Weasleys are Gryffindors. Maybe it's a clue?

When harry is looking in the Mirror of Erised he notices he has his mothers eyes and that many of his relatives he also sees there have green eyes. A sentenc or two later these are called the Potter family. Wouldn't those with the green eyes be Evanses? If they are the Evans family after all, does their presence in the Mof E indicate that they are wizard family after all, or does the M of E make a distinction between wizards and Muggles?

Originally posted by Cat (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=146565#post146565))
I'm with this. Everybody looks to much into the fact that they're green, rather than the fact that they're like his mother's.

Of course, you can't tell what is important and what isn't. I just find it strange that everybody goes one route.



I have to disagree, in the online interview with JK, she says they will play an important role in the next book.

The ak produces a flash of green light. Could the green eyes be the result of the death curse? Were Lily's eyes always green? We can't see james' eyes because of the glasses, but if the potters in the MoE were killed by the big V, that might explain the green.

Any one else alive mentioned to have green eyes?

Were Lily's eyes always green?

Yes as a matter of fact they were. That wasn't said directly though there is another perfectly logical explanation to say they were. When Harry was looking in the Mirror of the Erised, he saw his family.

The just looked at him, smiling. And slowly, Harry looked into the faces of the other people in the mirror, and saw other pairs of green eyes lime his, other noses like his, even a little old man who looked as though he had Harry's knobbly knees. Harry was looking at his family for the first time in his life......

I hope that helps :)

Originally posted by whizbang121 (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=373632#post373632))
The ak produces a flash of green light. Could the green eyes be the result of the death curse? Were Lily's eyes always green? We can't see james' eyes because of the glasses, but if the potters in the MoE were killed by the big V, that might explain the green.

As well as what Ecthelion has already said, you also have to consider that people like Hagrid and Sirius, who knew Lily as a schoolgirl, are always commenting that he "has his mother's eyes". This suggests, to me at least, that she's always had green eyes.

just a thought.

Wow! Sudden brainwave! Not sure if anyones mentioned this before, i havent had time to read the whole thread, but think how much eyes mean in magic - remember, with the basilisk? And also when hermione says in book 1 "Hagrid i know a spell when i see one - you have to keep eye contact and Snapes eyes werent moving!"
Eyes mean a lot - maybe with Harrys eyes it means hes particularly gifted with magic, but hasnt found it yet? We already know he can create a spectacular patronus, which is VERY advanced for someone his age

Originally posted by Cat (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=146588#post146588))
The fact that she hinted at something in an interview is also worth noting!

Now, can I ask you: are there any special wizarding powers in your world that depend on the wizard using their eyes to do something? Bit like…
Why do you want to know this?
I just vaguely wondered.
Why?
Well because everyone always goes on about how Harry's got Lilly Potter's eyes?
Aren't you smart? There is something, maybe, coming about that. I'm going to say no more. Very clever.

--- BBC News interview, Autumn 2000


this refresher came from page one of this thread. As usual, the minute someone gets a little close to something, jkr clams up. lol Which is a hint in itself, right?

I wonder if it has anything to do with the old adage, "The eyes are the mirror of the soul?"

green eyes are a genetic mutation...just so ya'll know...

i am certain we will find out in OotP what the importance of harry having his mothers eyes and that her wand was good for charm work...

Originally posted by Pucko (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=376248#post376248))
green eyes are a genetic mutation...just so ya'll know...

i am certain we will find out in OotP what the importance of harry having his mothers eyes and that her wand was good for charm work...


**** wish id known about the mutation thing b4 entering my exam now! I wouldve sounded a helluva lot smarter! :p
Anyhoo, i agree, i think there will be importance in it but im not sure about the whole charms thing - there hasnt been enough said about that to make me think up a theory really! :)

Originally posted by Pucko (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=376248#post376248))
green eyes are a genetic mutation...just so ya'll know...

i am certain we will find out in OotP what the importance of harry having his mothers eyes and that her wand was good for charm work...


But there's lots of green eyes in my family. Mine are often green, (technically hazel.) They're not like crayola green but still.........


okay, I'm a mutant. you found me out.;)

Maybe the green eyes indicated something to do with Charm work too? Maybe Harry has great potential in Charms. The Patronus is a Charm, and it is very advanced magic, well above the OWL level (as Lupin tells us in PoA). Maybe Harry has a talent in Charms that he has yet to discover. His Dad was a good Quidditch player, maybe he got Charms from his mother.

Perhaps rather than indicating a proficiency with charms, it indicates being marked by a powerful charm (by his mother?).

Well, she did have green eyes and, supposedly, her parents were Muggles, so it seems more likely, if it indicates anything, to indicate a gift for charms.

I think the eye thing is a special magical gift, like parseltongue. I also think she is the Heir of Gryffindor... but I have typed out why i think so on so many occasions, that I'd rather just leave it at that.

Originally posted by Mirabella (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=161829#post161829))
*If* book 5 is ever made into a movie, it is highly unlikely that Daniel Radcliffe will still be playing Harry. So maybe they will be able to find an actor with naturally green eyes or one who can wear green contacts.


But, the stuff they can do with computers, why did't they turn his eyes green digitally? Too expensive? Just a thought.

they did do that initially but it looked too fake, so they just left it at blue eyes, im sure that if daniel continues the role they will prob use contacts cus then its necessary to the plot

I don't care about the blue eyes. I really thing every effort should be made to keep DR as Harry, even if they have to switch to miniseries format for GoF and OotP.

Before the book came out, I read, and I'm sure other people have also, that we would learn why it is important why Harry had is mother's eyes. After reading the book I rememberd seeing no mention of this. Did I miss it or was it not there?

Yeah, I was looking for that too, and disapointed not to find it. I think it may have been a misunderstanding that we will find out in /future/ books and we assumed it was this book. Not sure though. Like I said, I was a bit confused and disapointed myself. If anyone has any info I'd be glad to know as well o.0

Yeah it was def. disapointing when most of the rumors we heard were gonna be cleared up by this book, was not in fact. I heard we were going to learn more about Lily, but instead, we just learned more of the ancient magic we pulled.

We learned a little more about Lily - maybe not necessarily not the info that we wanted - but we know a little more about her character - like the fact she didn't give in to James/Sirius's arrogance...

I dunno. It seems that we could've learned something implicitly about Lily. She did not like James immediately--she thought he was too arrogant. Snape does not like Harry because he disobeys rules, but what is most significant is that he looks like James, which probably triggers uncomfortable and defensive feelings for Snape (graying underpants upturned and all). So--it seems to me that by emphasizing Harry's/Lily's eyes, we are asked to look beyond the general physical appearance to see that although Harry is much like his father and has many qualities that his father had (which are also good)--he is also like his mother--asking Luna if she wants help finding her belongings--compassionate and sympathetic. These are things that we know about Harry anyway, of course, but they were NOT things that we knew about Lily and James--that she passed on her kindness and love--something of course that he has much of and LV has none. This is something that I gather Snape will come to realize in time: although he will never get over his feelings over James--perhaps he, too, will start seeing some of Lily in Harry--enough to see beyong the arrogance that is really more part of his childhood than Harry. Thoughts?

As an aside, that really irritated me about the movies--I really wished that Harry had green eyes in the movies--couldn't they have used colored contacts or something? I sorta thought that that was really important.

We only knew that we'd hear some important bit on Lily. As rabid fans, we thought it was the signifigance of green eyes. And we guessed wrong, obviously.

Well, in the "Snapes worst memory" chapter, with all the young marauders and such, it does actually say stuff about Lily's eyes and Harry
Quote from page 570 (UK version):
" It was one of the girls from the lake edge. She had thick, dark red hair that fell to her shoulders, and startlingly green almond shaped eyes - Harry's eyes.
Harry's mother."

It's not that significant really, but I think that was the onyl related thing about their eyes in OotP.

The significance of Harry having his mother's eyes seams to show to me that he may have the bravery of his father, but he has the compassion and caring of his mother.

JKR has said there is significance to Harry having Lily's eyes. I think it'll come around in book 6 or 7. There is also significance to Lily's wand being good for charmwork, apparently.

Maybe it will be revealed in the next book...

Originally posted by MoGr@ng3r (original post (http://www.cosforums.com/a/showthread.php?postid=389533#post389533))


As an aside, that really irritated me about the movies--I really wished that Harry had green eyes in the movies--couldn't they have used colored contacts or something? I sorta thought that that was really important.

They started out with green contacts but they irritated Dan Radcliffes eyes. They were supposed to colour them in with a computer but they obviously didnt. That really annoyed me too.

Ohhh! thanks for that little bit of info mystically_mad! I'd always woundered why they didn't have his eyes green and it bugged me so much.

Thats ok. My friend and I had a fight about it actually because she liked them blue but I said they had to be green.
Anyway, lets get back on topic.
I want to know why lily's eyes were almond shaped. Arent Asian peoples eyes almond shaped, not caucasians. Does thsat mean lily has some asian ancestry?

we will learn something about Lilly's eyes and those of harry in book 6. The tille of they book is rumoured to be Harry Potter and the Green Torch. Green eyes Green Torch.
well we will jsut have to wait *** i dont wanna wait that long