So who will get Bellatrix? v2

As much as everyone would like to see Neville killing Bellatrix I doubt that it would happen.
Jo has made murder and the ripping of the sould in to a huge ordeal and I seriously doubt after all that she would have several students to commit murder in the last book.
Out of all of the students and members of the DA the only one who might commit murder would be Harry.

I agree that I would not want to see Neville resort to murder, even for revenge. I think that if Bellatrix bites the dust, Voldemort needs to be the one to do. It just seems so fitting that the cause she put her heart and soul into would be her downfall.

I think Bellatrix should suffer how Neville's parents are suffering for the rest of her life, and maybe become immortal in that manner too....and I think both Harry and Neville deserve to kill her or bring her in the same state as the Longbottoms

Hmmmm....Hard to tell... I slightly think Harry would because of Bellatrix killing Sirius, but I've already said in other threads that I doubt Harry is capable of killing and I still believe that.

So that leaves Neville.... It's hard to believe that Neville could kill if Harry can't but as we've seen Neville is holding alotta rage when it comes to how his parents died. He's very traumatised by it (I would be) therefore he would want revenge on the person who tortured his parents....

So I'm gonna go with Neville! Even though he's so sweet and innocent!

Wel,

I honestly think it will be (maybe) one of her sisters.

Neville deserves to get some closure here. Most likely Jo will preserve his innocense and Voldemort will betray her.

I like the idea that Voldemort kills her for failing a mission or something

That would be so bitter sweet for her seeing how she goes on and on about how she is so loyal to him and she is his most trusted supporter.

Maybe for even failing to deliver the prophecy ontop of another failed mission would be enough for voldy to kill her. that would proove that he really does not trust anyone and has no friends.

LadyofthePensieve posted:
Wel,

I honestly think it will be (maybe) one of her sisters.
Andromeda should totally give Bella a rear-end kicking. Plus I really don't want to see one of the "good-guys" commit a murder.

I think that Nevile will get her. It is because of her that he never knew his parents. Knowing that she is free makes him stronger, when the time comes and he has to fight her he will be able to do so. In OOTP he shows us that he can be good at magic,Knowing that the one who took his parents from him was free made him stonger and want to fight and want revenge. Just like Harry with Voldy.

I am not saying Neville will kill her with AK but I think that he will have something to do with her undoing.

True poetic justice would be if she were set up by someone on the light to be mistrusted by Voldemort and he does her in himself.

Almost equally wonderful would be if she were killed as one of her own curses rebounded or ricocheted off of something - or even caused something really big and heavy to fall and crush her to pieces.

Just one step below that would be if she and another DE were firing off hexes and curses from opposing positions at one of "our guys" who dodged, ducked or disapparated, allowing both Bellatrix and the other DE to simultaneously take each other out.

As good as it would feel for Neville to do it, it would find it much more satisfying if she were destroyed by the power of the side she has taken up with of her own free will.

I hope Neville will get Bellatrix in the end, and I think he will do something with her. Maybe not kill her, but I think he will get in a duel and hex her, or something like that. I want him to get some sort of revenge on her, because of his parents. But I don't think Neville is capable to kill someone. And I don't want him to be a murder. But if he kills her in a battle, I don't see it as a murder, I see it as a battle of life and death and that Neville was the strongest.

Maybe Voldemort will kill her, because she didn't manage to do something he wanted her to do...

Or maybe one of her sisters...

Or Maybe Lupin, because Bellatrix killed Sirius...But I don't see Lupin as a killer, but I think he is more capable to it, than Neville...

Or maybe Harry, because she killed Sirius. I think Harry is more capable do kill someone that Neville, or Ron, or any other from the DA.

Kingsley

Kingsley
why?

Yeah, logically, its probably going to be Neville.

i think itll surely be one fo the order or a realy good auror...but why specifically kingsley?

Im not sure on the how its going to happen part but i forsee bellatrex winding up in the same situation as Nevviles parents. It would only be poetic justice for her to be in the same shape as she seems to be very fond of that memory.

nevile or lord voldemort himself

Perhaps Lord Voldemort will have her on another mission, she fails again then to make an example he tortures her using 'crucio', not realizing that he had been doing it for to long, or out of pure anger he holds it to long and drives her insane. Causing her the same fate as Nevilles parents.

i hope neville does to her what she did to his parents,or kills her,either way i'll be happy

It needs to be Neville after what she did to his family. He deserves to avenge his parents.

I think it's a tie between Neville or Voldemort himself

Neville is the only one who really deserves to take her down.

I would love to see Voldemort call her in, and she throws herself at his feet, and then one quick Avada Kedavra later ... :evil: What fun for Voldy, one boring Sunday afternoon.

Seriously - Bellatrix deserves to be left for Neville, rather than Harry. He suffered more through the loss of his parents than Harry did through the loss of Sirius - Harry mentions several times the sympathy he has for Neville's situation.

However, I don't really want anyone (specifically Harry or Neville) to kill her. Maybe if Neville beats her good and she gets shoved back in Azkaban without a master to wait for. I really don't want Neville to murder anyone, and death is too good for what she's done.

Frankly, I don't care as long as some one does. But I'd love it if it was someone that we'd least expect.

I want Neville have the chance to kill her, but instead he hands her in to the Ministry or something. I just don't think that Neville could be a murderer.

I hope Harry gets her, it'd be ultimate revenge. It'd make me feel better anyway...

I think that will be either Harry or Neville, because they both have lost people that they love to her, and it would be fitting for either of them to do the same to her.

Well, she'll defintely get killed but I think it will be either Harry or Neville. [Neville to me, is a higher possibility] Perhaps they could both kill her together? I don't think Ron or Hermione possess the will or hate [which is strong enough] to kill Bellatrix. Harry & Neville both have plenty of what I would say valid [I'm not saying that you should kill people] reasons to have so much hate that would build up to her murder.

Maybe Luna will do it to defend her boyfriend! :)

I think that if it is going to be Neville he needs to improve alot more. We sae big improvment in OOTP but still to go against Bella is Brave. She beat Sirius in a duel and that is no easy task.

I want Neville have the chance to kill her, but instead he hands her in to the Ministry or something. I just don't think that Neville could be a murderer.

I agree. Neville has too much heart to kill someone, even the person who practically killed his parents (I'm not trying to say that Harry doesn't have any heart because he's trying to kill Voldemort, because of the prophecy and that by killing Voldemort, he'll be saving thousands of lives).

I don't think it's going to be Neville. I don't want any of the kids except Harry to kill ayone because throughout HBP, Dumbledore stresses the fact that murder is the supreme act of evil. It rips your soul apart. I don't want anyone to kill unless absolutely necessary. I realize that this is war, but I just can't bear to think of Neville murdering someone.

I think that Neville will definately battle with Bellatrix and everyone reading the book will be giving him huge credit for trying but I think someone heroic like Lupin or Tonks will save Neville from being tortured the way his parents were.
or maybe Neville will do it himself.....remember his parents were Aurors so he obvioulsy has some talented blood.
but I'll bet on the first theory.
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Maybe Luna will do it to defend her boyfriend! :)

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But on the subject of the girls, I was kind of considering Ginny. Ginny because she reminds me of Bellatrix in a weird way, save for being a thousand times more decent as a human being, as well as not being criminally insane. I also remember how everyone jumped in front of her when Bellatrix said her bit about "torturing the little one" or whatever - it would be nice for Ginny to catch her after that. And I agree with those who said that whoever catches her won't kill her - at least, I hope they won't.

Maybe a joint effort on the part of Neville and Ginny?

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But on the subject of the girls, I was kind of considering Ginny. Ginny because she reminds me of Bellatrix in a weird way, save for being a thousand times more decent as a human being, as well as not being criminally insane. I also remember how everyone jumped in front of her when Bellatrix said her bit about "torturing the little one" or whatever - it would be nice for Ginny to catch her after that. And I agree with those who said that whoever catches her won't kill her - at least, I hope they won't.

Maybe a joint effort on the part of Neville and Ginny?

I'm not sure that I could see Ginny murdering Bellatrix just because she had threatened to torture her. And I do not see Ginny as being a killer, her character seems to be more like that of Hermione. They are the ones who are more level minded and more willing to thinks things through rather than just charge in. So I could see her as a excellent fighter but not a killer.

I'm not sure that I could see Ginny murdering Bellatrix just because she had threatened to torture her. And I do not see Ginny as being a killer, her character seems to be more like that of Hermione. They are the ones who are more level minded and more willing to thinks things through rather than just charge in. So I could see her as a excellent fighter but not a killer.

Oh no, I agree with you. I don't see Neville or Ginny as a killer - when I said "catch", I actually meant it in the literal sense of the word :) As in "hand her in to the Ministry."

I would love to see Voldemort call her in, and she throws herself at his feet, and then one quick Avada Kedavra later ... What fun for Voldy, one boring Sunday afternoon.

Seriously - Bellatrix deserves to be left for Neville, rather than Harry. He suffered more through the loss of his parents than Harry did through the loss of Sirius - Harry mentions several times the sympathy he has for Neville's situation.

However, I don't really want anyone (specifically Harry or Neville) to kill her. Maybe if Neville beats her good and she gets shoved back in Azkaban without a master to wait for. I really don't want Neville to murder anyone, and death is too good for what she's done.

I agree. Nobody deserves to get rid of Bellatrix as much as Neville, and yet I don't think it would be in his nature, just as Harry wouldn't allow Lupin and Sirius to kill Pettigrew. It's much more likely that he would make sure she was sent to Azkaban. Death and killing aren't in Neville's nature, which is a pity cos that witch deserves to go.

I think that one of the death eaters wil kill her for failing on a mission and losing some thing important, Mabe even a horcrux

Is it possible that maybe one of the house elf's like--- oh I don't know--- Dobby for example could kill Bellatrix.

Is it possible that maybe one of the house elf's like--- oh I don't know--- Dobby for example could kill Bellatrix.

What would happen if Harry ordered Kreacher to kill her? Would he have to attempt it? Are there some orders you cant give to a House Elf?

I agree with everybody that Neville deserves the final confrontation with Bellatrix, and I also agree that we don't actually want Neville to commit murder. I think the best solution would be to let Neville have his moment of glory against her, but then while she's trying to kill him, she dies in some way that is her own fault. That's always such a satisfying way to get rid of the bad guy without having the good guy become a killer. I've seen that device used before--an example would be BadGuy grabs a knife and rushes to kill GoodGuy, who steps aside at the last moment and BadGuy then crashes through the 30th floor window to his death.

definitely Definitely DEFINITELY Neville.

JK will find some way for Neville to get revenge.

I hope that neville kills her. He deserves to be the one after what bellatrix did to his parents. Now all he needs is the training. I think that he definantly would be brave enough to do it.

Well, I like the idea of Neville being able to avenge his parents as much as the next person. I can actually see it as a very plausible idea--- the only problem is (granted I'm prob. wrong) I think if Neville actually has it in him to kill her--- then he has it in him to torture her. If given the opportunity he might just use the same curse on her that she used on his parents. I could actually see him doing just this and like Hermione or Ginny or Ron or even Harry having to tell Neville to stop--- that he needs to look at her-- that she's had more than enough--- and his saying that it would never be enough. Then Hermione (for whatever reason-- feeling slightly better about using the AK curse) just goes ahead and kills her.
Anyway, I'm prob. wrong, and you should all feel free to tell me so. I won't mind.

Neville.

Come on, it's the best, the most wonderful, the most justifying glorious chance for Neville to avenge his parents' death, to shove it in his grandmother's face that he IS talented and just like his parents, and a way to for one moment in his life, outshine everyone else.

I too think it will be a bad guy falls out the 30th story window to his death type of killing...not Neville Longbottom becoming a murderer by the Killing Curse.

Anyone else see the veil in Bella's future?

Neville should so kill her! She is the reason his parents are like the way they are and she laughs about it to him! Its horrible! I really don't care if someone waits with her at wand point for Neville (although I doubt it will happen) I just want to the Neville getting his revenge.

Neville.

Come on, it's the best, the most wonderful, the most justifying glorious chance for Neville to avenge his parents' death, to shove it in his grandmother's face that he IS talented and just like his parents, and a way to for one moment in his life, outshine everyone else.

I too think it will be a bad guy falls out the 30th story window to his death type of killing...not Neville Longbottom becoming a murderer by the Killing Curse.

Anyone else see the veil in Bella's future?

Nevilles parents didn't die.

I'm hoping she gets stuck back in jail,I'd love for the irony to get to her.

Neville.


I too think it will be a bad guy falls out the 30th story window to his death type of killing...not Neville Longbottom becoming a murderer by the Killing Curse.

Anyone else see the veil in Bella's future? See I don't actually think that Neville will commit murder--- I do however think that he will "Torture" her. I think he may even get a bit carried away with it-- as he starts thinking about what she did to his parents.

See I don't actually think that Neville will commit murder--- I do however think that he will "Torture" her. I think he may even get a bit carried away with it-- as he starts thinking about what she did to his parents.

I really don't care what he does to her, as long as he kills her.

I don’t think someone can order a house elf to kill someone. I guess it be symbolic if Neville finished her off, but I’m not defending Bella but she is not the only one whom tortured the Longbottoms into insanity. Is Neville to kill the LeStrange brothers as well?

i like the idea of dobby getting his finest hour by killing bellatrix, but i think neville will kill her to get his grandmother to respect him.

I think that I've said this before, but I'll say it again. I think that Snape is going to kill Bellatrix. The two obviously hate each other. Bellatrix still doesn't trust him. Before he took the unbreakable vow, she thought that he was on Dumbledore's side. But now she thinks that he's trying to steal all the glory for himself.

But personally I think that Snape really is on Dumbledore's side. I think that he will kill Bellatrix to protect Harry; or to allow Harry his chance at killing Voldemort. Once he does kill her, Voldemort will realize where his true loyalty lies, and most likely kill Snape. Unless he is the character that gets the reprieve.

I really don't think that any of the kids will kill anyone, except maybe Harry.

My first thought on the subject was that Neville should kill her, or if possible Neville and Harry together.

I really don't think that any of the kids will kill anyone, except maybe Harry.
I agree, and I really don't want either of them to become killers. Harry may have to at some point (Voldemort) but I doubt it. And Neville seems to have such a pure heart that it would be a shame for him to kill or even torture anyone.I can see him maybe attempting a spell like Crucio and having it fizzle out as Harry's did; despite all his hatred I think/hope it wouldn't work.

I guess the best scenario I can think of is Harry and Neville cornering Bellatrix, with Neville delivering the final spell/action that allows her to be brought to justice (whether it be Azkaban or some other punishment).

I'm hoping she gets stuck back in jail,I'd love for the irony to get to her.

Interesting point, that never occured to me. I like it!


The issue of whether house elves can be ordered to kill is pretty fascinating. If forced killing is prohibited, what other limitations might there be to a house elf's bondage? And what happens if someone tries to break the rules?

For the sake of house elves everywhere I hope such rules exist. However, I don't know how these rules would be decided...I guess it goes back to whatever magic binds house elves to their masters in the first place.

Sorry, I seem to be going a little off topic. I'm off to look for a thread about the house elf issues...

If anybody kills Bellatrix it will probably be either Neville or Harry. But I also like the thought of her going back to jail.

I really hope Neville "gets" her somehow, maybe he could duel with her and beat her (but not kill her) and then Voldemort kills her a punishment for losing to a 16/17 year old.
IMO Neville/Bellatrix is as personal as Harry/Snape.

I really don't think that any of the kids will kill anyone, except maybe Harry.[/QUOTE]

I agree in that I dont think the kids will do any killing.. even Harry. They havent been taught to and I dont think any of them have the heart to do it either. I agree that Snape should kill Bellatrix in perhaps saving Harry''s life. Plus, I dont think Harry will end up killing V either... he will be destroyed with Harry's love but I dont think Harry will use an unforgiveable curse...

I'm hoping she gets stuck back in jail,I'd love for the irony to get to her.

Jail? What jail? wihtout the dementors, theres really no azkaban. she'll escape immediatly. i hope that neville finishes her off. i might have a problem with harry killing voldemort, but i dont hold neville to quite as high standards, and besides, its as personal as harry/snape.

I'm hoping Neville and Harry get their revenge on her together. Either of them on their own would be good, but together is great. They both deserve the chance to get revenge for the one's they love/d.

As much as I hope Neville gets a shot at her it would be sad to have to see him tear his soul for such a cruel and worthless person. With Bellatrix having been the bonder of the unbreakable vow, which I believe is against Voldemorts wishes, Voldemort will most likely kill her for her disloyalty.Bellatrix is far to devoted to The Dark Lord and wont she be shocked as the Avada Kedarva flies from his wand.

I've always wondered who woudl get Bella and I must say that its most likely to be Neville. However, I agree with anyone who said that they can't see him killing anyone, even his parent's torturer. I just can't see him doing that. I don't want him to commit murder unless he has a really good reason like Harry does.
My personal favorite Bella murder scene has her dueling with Remus and then her doing something that almost kills him. Then, Wormtail sprints in, him and Bella send a AK at each other at the same time, they both die, and everyone is happy.

Well, there's too many pages and I refuse to read them all, so I'll just post what I think is going to happen with the Bellatrix situation. Well, I think that Neville will leave the school with the trio and Ginny and Luna, there's a sense of loyalty happening after what happened at the ministry and at the school. I think that they'll all go to Bill's wedding and whatnot, but afterwards seperate. Harry will refuse to let Ginny go with him, but has given up on convincing hermione and ron to stay, so they head out. Neville's gran wants him to return for his last year at Hogwarts, but he refuses, he has his own problems to face now. He goes and meets up with the trio and stays with them and helps search for horcruxes until finally, they find Bellatrix's trail. Neville leaves the trio and goes off on his own, and kills Bella and Rodolphus, but is then killed my Rabastan. It will obviously be more dramatic and have more details, but that's my current theory on the gist of what will happen.

Hopefully, Neville! Gosh I hate that woman.

I doubt Neville would be able to kill Bellatrix no matter how much he wants to she is way to skilled in ootp she took down two aurors killed Sirius and also deflected one of Dumbledore's spells. neville would not be able to harm her in any way. I don't really want Bellatrix killed either I think she is a very interesting character and I would hate to see her die.

Stubby Boardman. :lol:

Bellatrix is undoubtedly 'interesting' ... but she's interesting in an evil way rather than is a good way and she's done some really evil things in her life. I can't see her not dying... after torturing the Longbottoms and killing Sirius, she deserves to die or to end up like the Longbottoms, or worse!

I'm also not sure Neville has what it takes to 'get' her... but I really hope he'll be the one to do it!

God i hope it's Neville! I have faith in him! :love:

Neville does not have a chance against Bellatrix she is way to skilled for him.

NEVILLE!NEVILLE!NEVILLE!NEVILLE!NEVILLE!.......... ....i hope he does.......atleast he must have some part in finishing dear Bella........i hate her.

Hopefully Harry, he'll need revenge because of the whole sirius thing i suppose, but maybe Neville? Hopefully either or. Maybe, may seem weird, but maybe voldemort, that's the way she might find worst as she always seems to think that voldy loves her most and pride comes before a fall you know...

Hopefully Harry, he'll need revenge because of the whole sirius thing i suppose, but maybe Neville? Hopefully either or. Maybe, may seem weird, but maybe voldemort, that's the way she might find worst as she always seems to think that voldy loves her most and pride comes before a fall you know...


I thought about this too. Kinda ironic because she thinks she's the closest to Voldemort, but I think it's possible.

I just love this image made by guad.



That I think clarifies what I want and who I think will get Bella. ;)

I just love this image made by guad.

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That I think clarifies what I want and who I think will get Bella. ;)

He's exactly who I think will get Bellatrix as well. I think Neville is due some revenge toward her, though I don't think he will stoop to using Unforgivables against her.

though I don't think he will stoop to using Unforgivables against her.

I agree, I don't see Neville using the Unforgivable curse, I think he will innovate a wonderful and deadly use of Mimbulus Mimbletonia. :lol:

Harry, he hates her enough. What he'll use....Sectumsempra! A clean slash to the throat, or a blast through the heart! He has used the curse before, he know how, and what it will do!

I have more than 1 theory.

Neville-Bella and her death eater buddies tortured his parents

Harry-she killed Sirius

I'm also throwing a 3rd name into the mix:

Narcissa-bellatrix has to be the worst sister ever plus she helped turn Draco into a Death eater. oooh...catfight!

Neville does not have a chance against Bellatrix she is way to skilled for him.

Well Harry Managed to get a Crucio spell in, and if that had been avada kevarda he would have killed her.

I just love this image made by guad.



That I think clarifies what I want and who I think will get Bella. ;)

I love that!

I do think Neville is a lot braver than people think. He might try really hard to defeat Bellatrix, but something tells me that someone else will have that priveledge. =/

What about Snape? We saw in Spinner's End that he seems to despise her. Maybe she provokes him (calls him a coward...:lol:), especially if it turns out he was working for Dumbledore. We've seen him use an AK, so we know he can.

I really don't think it will be Neville. It seems too paralleled to the Harry/Voldemort conflict. However, Harry doesn't want to defeat Voldemort for revenge, he knows that Voldemort will never stop chasing him until Harry is killed, so Harry has to do it for his right and that of those he loves to have a normal, happy life. Bellatrix isn't chasing Neville, so he's really not in the same position.

While it'd be nice poetic justice for Neville to take out Bella...I rather think that she'll be captured / killed in the normal course of battle. I did advance an idea on another thread, half-jokingly, that someone would Obliviate her (strikes me as a good weapon to use in battle, actually - make them forget their spellwork?).
Bella is an extremely skilled witch, who is in the same league as Snape in terms of being hardest to battle with. Most of the OoTP and DA have shown they can handle "normal" DE's - see McGonagall in HBP, Harry holding his own both at the MoM and in the Flight of the Prince, Ginny holding her own against Alecta (sp?), and many other examples. However, Bella has already defeated Tonks, Kingsley (sort of), and Sirius, and was the only one to be able to run from DD. She also was able to overpower the Longbottoms, which may have been more difficult than it seemed. Yes, she's insane, or close to it...but I can't see Neville winning a 1 on 1.
With the exception of Harry's quest, none of the Order seem "in it" for revenge. So I think that, in most instances, the Order won't go seeking out the DE's personally - I think that it'll be in professional battle that the DE's are confronted. So, I think it's just as likely that Bill will take out Bella and Neville get Greyback as it is the reverse.
Counterpoint: While I can't see the Order going for personal vendettas...I could see the DE's sending Bella after Neville; Greyback after Bill or Lupin (or Tonks), etc. LV would find it amusing to inject a personal side into the battle; and he'd probably use it as a ruse to draw out Harry, if it comes to that.

I don't think that Neville will kill her (at least, not on purpose). Neville is not a killer. I think that she will die in a battle, maybe bye a curse that bounces off someone else or something.

I don't think that Neville will kill her (at least, not on purpose). Neville is not a killer. I think that she will die in a battle, maybe bye a curse that bounces off someone else or something.

Thank you. :agree: I don't think he would want to if he really got the chance. Even if he did, I highly doubt he'd be able to. You have to want to cause pain to cast Unforgivables (or at least, Bella tells Harry so) and Neville doesn't want to cause pain. If anything, he wants his parents back, and killing Bellatrix won't bring them back.

I also agree with chparadise that Bellatrix is one of the more powerful Death Eaters, and Neville was one of the less powerful DA members.

I have to believe that Neville will finish her off. He will have his day, he has been built up to much in all the books to finish off being a less then talented wizard. He is going to find the strengh from some where to finish her off. I do however agree he wont use a unforgivable curse to do it. If any one deserves to go thru the vail can we say Bellatrix. An eye for an eye and just the sort of genius we can excpect from JK herself.

I definately think Neville will kill Bellatrix.

Neville Longbottom....he's always been the peaceful character.i think now it's time for Jo to let us see his dark,avengence or revenge side.She tortured her parents.Neville might be afraid of her and was equally angry at her in the Department of Mysteries.
I feel he'll die in the process.

Voldemort. Accidentally. A spell by his wand bounces off a shiny surface and zaps her. I hope.

Neville has a score to settle with Bellatrix. I see it almost like Harry having a score to settle with Lord Voldemort. Bellatrix got Neville's parents, made it so that they aren't there to give him love, and Neville is going to go after her like Harry goes after Voldemort. Come to think of it, Neville will probably accompany Harry on the journey in part because he knows that where Voldemort is, Bella will be.

And of course, if Neville fails (I hope not!), Voldemort will get Bellatrix. She's on her way out of favor, and I think she knows it.

:huh:

I hope and pray that Neville kills Bellatrix. I think its time for little Neville to have some glory of his own. I hope that his parents will be healed in this book, he deserves something good to happen to him for a change.

Neville. Definetely.

Neville won't kill her, but cause her death. Blast her into devil's snare or some kind of monster or something like that.

Neville won't kill her, but cause her death. Blast her into devil's snare or some kind of monster or something like that.

Oh...that sounds a lot more likely. Like when Neville disarms Harry at the first D.A. meeting--he shouts "I did it!" and Harry decides not to point out that the enemy is not likely to be staring in the opposite direction with his wand held loosely at his side. Perhaps Neville will just catch Bellatrix off-guard.

But some would say that causing someone's death is the same as actually killing them. So, Neville will still kill Bella, even if it's just by doing something that causes her to die.

I can't help but agree that Neville wil not be branded as a murderer. I think Voldemort will kill her for not being loyal enough - which would be the most devestating thing that could happen to her.

Of course, I hope Neville kicks her butt first. It has to be Neville, but I would also dearly love to see her taken down by a really powerful witch. How awesome would it be if Hermione battled her and won?

Yeah, my second choice is Voldie killing her for doing something wrong.

If anyone gets Bella, it's likely to happen in the course of battle. Or she'd be captured (not likely, she seems the die fightning type now). Since none of the order - no matter who has a bone to pick with her, and the list is long and distinguished - will be the type to pursue her for revenge's sake, it seems to me that Lupin is just as likely to kill Bella and Neville kill Greyback as the other way around.
The "wrench in the works", so to say, is that the DE's may seek out vendettas or the like. Bella could try to flush Neville out, therefore forcing a confrontation. It's in that sense that I think that Neville might get his crack at her. But, since her dueling skills are very, very good...Neville better bring backup. He can't take her alone now, and he could improve a lot (he already has, too) and still not be at her level. Remember, she alone escaped the MoM among the DE's that were at the MoM. And she beat Sirius, Kingsley, etc (see my previous post for my take on her dueling skills).

I'm really pulling for Neville. I hope he kills Bellatrix. It would be some sort of vindication for what she did to him and his Parents and in some way Sirius Black. Her death would bring some sort of peace to him. It would also prove he's stronger than he thinks. If he's able to stand up to her without wimpering, he can do anything. Plus it would look so good on Bellatrix to get blasted into oblivion by the person/Child she belittled and terrified.

If Voldemort was to kill her for messing something up, I'd feel cheated. It would be too easy. He can kill any Death Eater and it would be "yeah, okey dokey, yet another one bites the dust--whoopee, what-ever who's next?". It would have that "Heck YEAH. Alright Neville Kick some ***! whooo hooo!" I want to see her go down in a "Blaze of Glory" so to speak. Meaning, I want her to be killed AFTER she's mocked and belittled Neville. I WANT him to get so mad that he FINALLY stands up for himself and say "ENOUGH! I'm not afraid of you any more!" I want Bellatrix to have THAT look of shock and terror that Sirius had in OOTP just before he died. I want her to get that look realizing someone smaller (in that they don't have the "guts" she has and therefor are seen as being "small" in her eyes), younger, weaker DEFEATED her. I want her to get that "Damn!! I've been beaten by a Pre-Schooler" expression when she realizes that her arrogance COST her big time!!!
She's the Bully you want to see be put in her place by the very person she's tormented for years. Normally you don't condone violence, but you cheer on the kid who's been tormented for FINALLY summoning the courage to stand up to her and send her away with her tail between her legs.

hi im new at this but I think that Neville might help Harry killa Bellitrix but im not sure that he will kill her on his own.

I think if just one person gets her, it will be Sirius - yes, he is alive! Because they're cousins it would be a cool emotional moment.

I'm really pulling for Neville. I hope he kills Bellatrix. It would be some sort of vindication for what she did to him and his Parents and in some way Sirius Black. Her death would bring some sort of peace to him. It would also prove he's stronger than he thinks. If he's able to stand up to her without wimpering, he can do anything. Plus it would look so good on Bellatrix to get blasted into oblivion by the person/Child she belittled and terrified.

If Voldemort was to kill her for messing something up, I'd feel cheated. It would be too easy. He can kill any Death Eater and it would be "yeah, okey dokey, yet another one bites the dust--whoopee, what-ever who's next?". It would have that "Heck YEAH. Alright Neville Kick some ***! whooo hooo!" I want to see her go down in a "Blaze of Glory" so to speak. Meaning, I want her to be killed AFTER she's mocked and belittled Neville. I WANT him to get so mad that he FINALLY stands up for himself and say "ENOUGH! I'm not afraid of you any more!" I want Bellatrix to have THAT look of shock and terror that Sirius had in OOTP just before he died. I want her to get that look realizing someone smaller (in that they don't have the "guts" she has and therefor are seen as being "small" in her eyes), younger, weaker DEFEATED her. I want her to get that "Damn!! I've been beaten by a Pre-Schooler" expression when she realizes that her arrogance COST her big time!!!
She's the Bully you want to see be put in her place by the very person she's tormented for years. Normally you don't condone violence, but you cheer on the kid who's been tormented for FINALLY summoning the courage to stand up to her and send her away with her tail between her legs.

You're not the only one hoping for that. :) gosh I can't wait...

I hope Neville gets her,
He can be clumbsy,but what a bout finding a plant to do the job for him ...he knows his plants...

I hope Neville gets her,
He can be clumbsy,but what a bout finding a plant to do the job for him ...he knows his plants...

Oh yes, let's not forget that Neville is good at something. He is very adept at Herbology. Perhaps this will help him in the "real world", which means help him defeat Death Eaters, which means help him defeat Bellatrix....yes, I can definitely see that happening.

I hope it is a combined effort from Harry, Neville, and lupin. In the same way that Sirius and lupin were going to kill petigrew in poa. I think the punishments fits for all the crimes of inhumanity she has committed!

I think this one is Neville's fight. It'll be his vengeance that gets served when Bellatrix is defeated. Lupin has Peter and Fenrir to worry about and Harry is hung up on Snape and Voldemort. Neville seems like the logical choice.

I hope its Neville, but I just can't see him doing it - does he have enough power to kill someone? Heck, he must have a lot of hatred for her seeing what she did to his parents, could this be enough to AK her?

He has a lot more power than people give him credit for--I think he might be able to kill her without using the AK.

yes i agree this is neville fight. harry knows what she done to his parents and nevilee will want revenge. neville will do her in

I'm really looking forward to seeing...er, reading that.:D

lol idc who gets bellatrix if only i had a tiem machine i would go into the future and buy the book now! :D i wish i could read it now :'(

There are actually more aggravating things than waiting for a publication date--what about wating for a publication date when you know the book was released overseas TWO YEARS AGO! I'm having that problem with a different author I enjoy. He's an Aussie, and four of his books were published in his homeland in '05 and only two of them have come out where I live.:grumble:

Nevile will be about to kill her, then realize he doesn't want to be a killer and bring her to jail.

There are actually more aggravating things than waiting for a publication date--what about wating for a publication date when you know the book was released overseas TWO YEARS AGO! I'm having that problem with a different author I enjoy. He's an Aussie, and four of his books were published in his homeland in '05 and only two of them have come out where I live.:grumble:

that sounds fustrating. maybe take an australian holiday :D

I've considered it. Not this summer though. Too many important things happening here.:D

i know exactly what ur thinking.......deathly hallows....... order of the pheonix..... lol i like ur style of thinking we think the same way :D

Yup, we do.:D Four more months, four more months, only four more months.:sigh:

yup im now looking at a desktop countdown timer counting down the seconds :D im guna be here forever it feels like but its only 4 months!

Neville better kill her!! It is his right and I hope that is what happens!!
BB

I think it would be awesome if Hermione got her somehow. No, I don't think this will actually happen, and I don't think that Hermione will ever end up killing anyone, but at the same time I wish that Hermione would be the one to make BL pay for what she did, to how everyone how strong and talented she really is.

i really hope that it is neville that 'takes' her out but i have a horrible feeling that he may go down with her.

i love neville and i really would love for him to avenge his parents but i don't want him to die, it's just a feeling i have.

I don't want Neville to kill her. I'd rather Neville stun her and have her shipped back to Azkaban where she can rot away. I think staying alive in Azkaban, knowing that Voldemort has been vanquished once and for all would be worse for her than death.

I hope also that it is a combined effort from Harry , Neville , and Lupin too. or Neville could just do it himself .

I can't wait to see how JKRto solve this in book 7

Neville or Voldemort killing her, I think, would make for an interesting story. Then again, I don't believe she'll die. I see her being tossed back in Azkaban.

I don't foresse ANY one besting Bella who is not an occlumens. She's a legilimens and therefore knows the spell they cast just before they cast it.

So, it is either a group effort (with a large enough group that she can not possibly fight them all) - or it will be Snape.

I'm rooting for Snape because I think she's probably been a thorn in his side since the first day he (a half-blood with a muggle father) dared to sort into Slytherin. She's surely going to be trying her best to make his life really difficult in DH - if for no other reason than an attempt to knock him off the pedestal that killing Albus will have put him on among the DEs.

Besides - a duel between Bella and Snape? That would probably be as exciting as the Voldy/Albus duel in bk5!

Funny, I never thought of him. I agree, though, that that would be an exciting battle. :D

If i were Bellatrix, i think i'd be running right now, maybe take a passport to some nice little island in the carrabien. i hear Timbuktu is nice this time of year. (lord knows she could use the tan) anyway, point being that there are sooo many people who wnat to get her that it's hard to know where to begin.
1. Harry of course, she murdered Sirius, which wasn't a smart thing to do. :no:
2. Neville, duh, she killed his parents... well not really, but it's pretty close. :grumble:
3. Snape, because she reallly irks him, and when you mess with Snape you are sealing your fate. she also forced him into an unbreakable vow.
4. Hermione and Ron, who she p.o by gerally making Harry's life misreble when it was already a nightmare. plus i have a feeling that Hermione would like to give Bella a good kick in the ----
5. Voldemort, because she's always claiming to be his right hand man/woman, and she's REALLY obnoxious about it. i doesn't hurt that she screwed up the Prophecy retreival.
6. Sirius if he returns from the grave, because... well.... she killed him. and she was a prat about it.
7.i'm sure that someone else out there hates her too, but hey, six or seven people who want to kill you is enough to get on with for the moment. :grumble:

Given that she can predict spells I reckon it would be hilarious if Hagrid punched her in the face:lol:

If someone is going to kill her I'd rather it was someone older who would be better able to cope with knowing they deliberately killed somewhere, like Lupin, Snape, or Moody.

I think Harry or Neville would be pretty shaken up if they killed anyone (and Harry may have to kill Voldemort already). I'd like to see Tonks kick Bella's *** in a duel to mirror the end of OoTP (where Tonks got her *** kicked by Bella), but, again, I wouldn't like to see Tonks actually kill Bella. I think, like any of the children, she would find the guilt and negative emotions associated with killing someone to be a bit much.

My ending of choice for Bella is probably in a secure mental institution.

I also like the idea of Hagrid socking her one though. :)

I must admit - I had not thought of a punch in the face. And Hagrid IS strong enough to do major damage! Hee!Hee!

And RedHeadWarrior is right - she's just plain annoying with the bragging and baby talk - which I think is another reason Snape would like to kick her in the posterior. That has GOT to drive him up the wall!

All of these last few posts go nicely with my thoughts - I have thought for a long time that however Bella is "gotten", it will be in the course of battle, so it could be somewhat unpredictable.
Hagrid's got that right hook;
Snape's got his occlumancy / legilimancy;
and Neville's got his herbology.
All of these could potentially be used against here.

I know a lot of HP fans want Neville to take down Bella and I would like that as well but I WOULD LOVE to see McGonagall and Bella Duel. As far as the adults in the books they seem to be the most powerful woman, I would love to see them square off.

I mean no offense to MM but, given Bella's incredible reflexes, I don't know if MM could handle that one-on-one. McGonagall's a very powerful witch, and she might be able to pull off some of the same transfiguration stuff DD did in OoTP, but anyone taking out Bella has to have a plan to deal with her reflexes and instinct. She (Bella) showed on at least three occasions just how quick she is - she parried DD's curse (when her back was turned!) in the Dep't of Mysteries, she reacted amazingly fast to Harry's attack in the atrium, and she killed the fox in HBP very quickly.
I do see her falling in battle, if anyone gets her at all, and I could also see it being a 2 on 1 battle that gets her - someone might hit her with her back turned. I would of course love for Neville to be the one to get her, but the only way I see this happening is if Bella seeks out Neville (and...considering this is Bella...she might).

I do see her falling in battle, if anyone gets her at all, and I could also see it being a 2 on 1 battle that gets her - someone might hit her with her back turned. I would of course love for Neville to be the one to get her, but the only way I see this happening is if Bella seeks out Neville (and...considering this is Bella...she might).

I have a nagging suspicion that whoever catches up with Bellatrix will die with her. You're right, she's incredibly talented, and I guess I'm thinking that to get close enough to have a shot at immobilising her you'd already have to be far too close to get out of that situation alive yourself.

I know a lot of HP fans want Neville to take down Bella and I would like that as well but I WOULD LOVE to see McGonagall and Bella Duel. As far as the adults in the books they seem to be the most powerful woman, I would love to see them square off.

On a vaguely related note, I've sometimes thought it would be cool to see a Ginny Vs. Bellatrix duel. You know how Bellatrix was all, "Let him watch while we torture the little girl?" in OotP, like Ginny was an easy target? I'd like to see Ginny prove her wrong.

I continue to think that there is a certain poetic justice in having Neville take out Bellatrix.

However, what about Narcissa? She has said that she would to anything to protect her family...and she is more powerful than Bellatrix--contrast her quieter Apparating "pop".

The more powerful/skilled a wizard is, the quieter their Addaration. Dumbledore and Voldemort both Apparated silently.

I really want Neville to be the one who teaches Bellatrix a lesson. IMO, Neville deserves to get her more than anyone else because it was due to her deeds, that he suffered such a traumatic childhood. In fact, he still does. One could say that the lack of a parent figure had a huge impact on the person Neville is today. Of course he has his grandmother but she is too demanding of him, IMO.

Basically, I do not care who gets Bellatrix - I just hope it's either Neville or Harry.

I really want Neville to be the one who teaches Bellatrix a lesson. IMO, Neville deserves to get her more than anyone else because it was due to her deeds, that he suffered such a traumatic childhood. In fact, he still does. One could say that the lack of a parent figure had a huge impact on the person Neville is today. Of course he has his grandmother but she is too demanding of him, IMO.

Basically, I do not care who gets Bellatrix - I just hope it's either Neville or Harry.

Or both of them. I'm starting to think they should all pitch in to buy a piano or something to drop on her. This would solve all problems :rolleyes: Really, though, I agree... but I kind of think Neville's more likely, since like you said, she's the one who took his parents away, and in OotP she made sure he remembers it. I hope he doesn't kill her, though - not on purpose, at least.

Edit: Sixth year! Yay! Now we wait for the next post purge to take me down to 700 again! :D

Congrats Spritey!!

I hope he doesn't kill her, though - not on purpose, at least.


Oh, no, I do not want Neville -or anyone on the good side- to be an intentional murderer either. Maybe there's a way of teaching Bellatrix a lesson before she dies. Killing her won't make her regret how much pain she caused. I am not necessarily implying Neville should torture her into insanity either . . . . I just want him to avenge his parents' fate somehow.

I really want Neville to be the one who teaches Bellatrix a lesson. IMO, Neville deserves to get her more than anyone else because it was due to her deeds, that he suffered such a traumatic childhood. In fact, he still does. One could say that the lack of a parent figure had a huge impact on the person Neville is today. Of course he has his grandmother but she is too demanding of him, IMO.

I couldn't agree more. Besides the final battle b/w Harry and Voldemort, this is my most anticipated battle. Neville should be the one to kill her IMO, because she is the reason his life is how it is. I would prefer him to kill her single-handedly, but I would still be pleased if he recieved help from either Ginny or Luna, or even Ron or Hermione. I'm not so keen on Harry helping Neville out, only becuase Nevill needs to defeat her more. Yes, although she did cause Sirius to fall into the veil, it's more of Neville's battle, and I would love seeing him take her down.

I just do not see how either Harry or Neville will counter her unless they learn occlumency.

Harry couldn't get a single spell past Snape who was legilimensing him at the time. Bella can do exactly the same thing since she's a legilimens.

I just do not see how either Harry or Neville will counter her unless they learn occlumency.
My strongest choice is Neville because everyone -especially Bellatrix- underestimates his abilities. Yes, it will be a tough duel, considering how experienced Bellatrix is, but with enough determination and support, I think Neville can manage it. Especially if Harry, or someone else, joins him in the battle. It will not only represt unity, but also give Neville a chance to prove Bellatrix wrong.


Harry couldn't get a single spell past Snape who was legilimensing him at the time. Bella can do exactly the same thing since she's a legilimens.

That said, I do agree that Snape vs. Bellatrix or any Occlumens from the good side vs. Bellatrix would be an interesting battle. :agree:

Hopefully it will be Neville, but I do think that Lupin has some unfinished business with Bellatrix too. Murdering his only remaining close friend, after they "just" had each other back after such a long time. But Lupin has also unfinished business with Pettigrew and Greyback, therefore he might be a bit busy.

I would like it if there might be an altercation between Bella and Narcissa, they don't seem to be on one line, see Spinner's end. Narcissa's main priority is her family, Bellatrix only cares about Voldemort and her position. So maybe they will come to cuffs if Narcissa wants to leave Voldemort's circle and they will end up fighting. Very unlikely but it would be interesting to see.

I don't think you would have to be an Occlumens to beat Bellatrix in a confused battle situation. I think Legilimency will only really help her in a one-on-one duel, because if you were using Legilimency in a fight between multiple witches/wizards, you might not be paying enough attention to the rest of the battle and get taken out by a curse from another person.

That's a good point Thorny - that's why I think it's either Snape (occlumency/legilimency) or a group (I do kind of like the idea of everyone getting a shot at her - I'm kind of picturing it like a dodgeball circle - snicker!)

One on one Bella could still know Hagrid's right hook is coming, but there isn't (much of) a magical defense against it :).

I think Bella will fall / be captured in battle. So, it could be somewhat unpredictable who "gets" her. She does seem the type to seek out certain fights, though, so that might be how Neville or Lupin or someone gets to her.

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