The ending of Book 7/the HP series.

Having learned insight on Horcruxes, the Ginny/Harry ship, the Ron/Hermione ship, R.A.B., etc, how do you think it will end?

My own little theory, just how I think the series would be best summed up, goes as follows.

Harry (and R.A.B./DA/Aurors/whoever) destroys all other 4 horcruxes (assuming locket WAS destroyed.) Somewhere, Ginny, Ron, Hermy, Harry, Mad-eye, whoever, are together, surrounded by death eaters. Everyone has been stunned, 'cept Harry, before LV starts really messing with him. Crucius curses everywhere, kicking, mutilating, sectosempra the crew, while Harry watches. Then, LV decides to start killing off the crew, starting, (maybe finishing) with Ginny, before inevitably turning to Harry. 'Cept, before the AK is aimed at Ginny (or Ron, or Luna, or Hermy, why not even Grawp) Harry screams 'Noooooooooooooooooo' or something valiant like that, jumping in from of the AK. He's killed, but woopsie daisy, LV didn't know that Harry was actually a horcrux, or maybe didn't know they killed Nagina before LV came. So, Harrys dead, could have not died, but died for everyone else's sake. LV is for sure now certain that he is unstoppable; last line of defense for the rest of the world was the now dead Harry. So, he turns the AK to one of the others, shoots it off, and wouldn't you know, the same love magic that Dumbledore has ALWAYS preached, and his mother practiced, send that curse right back at LV. He's dead, so's Harry, he has a funeral, the world comes to bid him farewell, Muggles are informed, Vernon and Petunia and Dudders are there, Ginny and co. realize he sacrificed himself for them, it being the only way to kill Voldemort (but only doing it for love.)

Lets here how you have it coming out. Please use this thread instead of dropping spoilers into other "What Next" threads.

I hope Harry won't have to die, but it's likely. I think he'll either die with Voldemort, or Voldemort will die at his hand. Some people think it's likely he might just walk through the veil, but I hope he doesn't.

There are worse things than death, you know.



I believe that Voldemort will be stripped of his powers. Dumbledore said it could happen, in reference to Tom Riddle's mother (I believe...he said it could happen because of depression or some other reasons...I'll have to check again).

So, in the end, Harry Potter is victorious, the wizarding world is once again at peace, and the Dark Lord Voldemort, the most powerful, evil wizard the world has ever known -- and you shudder at his name -- begins his job at Wal-Mart as the most fearsome greeter a small town in Illinois has ever laid eyes upon.

But what COULD or WOULD ever stop Voldemort from once agains gaining power... there would be dozens of Death Eaters chomping at the bit to help the master again... 3 times the charm after all.

I also strongly believe the mysterious spell used by DD towards LV in the Department of Mysteries will make an important scene in the next book...

As well, seeings how there are worse things than death (but not to LV) wouldn't that further suggest that Harry die himself rather than see his friends die because of him? Personally, I think that would be a great bit worse than death, watching your friends all die.

I have a feeling Harry will die it would be a terribly sad ending but...I don't know there are so many ways to end this story, but one thing I do think is that Harry is definitelynot a Horcrux.

He'll kill Voldemort with Snape's or Draco's help in my opinion.

She won't kill off Harry, because in the end, remember this is a children's book. People would be rather disenchanted if the character that they love is killed in the end and the entire Potter line is gone.

He will have to kill Voldemort because of the prophecy, "One cannot live while the other survives"

Sure, it's a children's book... but look at it from every 18 year old kid's perspective. Rowling has made these books progressively harder and harder stories to follow and accept. I was 10 when I read the first book. I'm now 18. She's changed her writing style drastically. Don't believe me? Re-read SS after 8 years. Personally, I absolutely ADORED Dumbledore... you're basing your theory of 'Harry can't die' off the fact that it would leave kids disinfranchised? Sorry, but that bubble was THOUROUGHLY burst when Dumbledore was done in. I've had kicks in the nuts that hurt less than Dumbledore dying... it would take some major cahones for Rowling to kill off Harry, but the whole 'love conquires death' represented by Lily should show that Harry dying is one of the more likely outcomes of the books.

voldemort will die by the sword of gryffindor by harry......

death eaters will be imprisoned in azkaban w/o pardon....

the wizarding world will be peaceful again til the next rise of another dark lord....

i HOPE that harry will not die!!!!!!!! :sad:

I think Harry will ultimetly die in a similar way as his mother while saving Ginny from death from the AV and with all the Horcrux's gone Volemort will not survive this time when the curse backfires .

But what COULD or WOULD ever stop Voldemort from once agains gaining power... there would be dozens of Death Eaters chomping at the bit to help the master again... 3 times the charm after all.
7, to be presice...In the HP realm ofcourse.
I don't think Harry would allow Ginny to come along with he on the Hunt for Voldemort. Afterall, he did split up with Ginny so that Voldemort couldn't use her to get to him.
I wonder if Harry will allow Ron and Hermione to come along with him. I don't think he will be able to go by himself becasue the protection of the Horcruxes would be too much for him alone.

Harry to voldy: see my new boots, that is snakeskin baby, as in your last horcrux snake - better hope those deatheaters behind you don't realize you can die now: V begins killing his deatheaters and they wound him, as the last de falls, harry engages with the still powerful V and gets what Malfoy got in the latrine before he disarms V, breaks his wand, and summons Aurors: his last effort before he passes out is to apparate to the burrow, where Ginny sees him and runs to save him...

Future teachers at Hogwarts: where are all these red headed kids coming from...

I think in the end they will both end up killing each other.

-- and you shudder at his name -- begins his job at Wal-Mart as the most fearsome greeter a small town in Illinois has ever laid eyes upon.[/QUOTE]


I think he is already there. Walmart is a scary place in this Illinois small town

.. and the Dark Lord Voldemort, the most powerful, evil wizard the world has ever known -- and you shudder at his name -- begins his job at Wal-Mart as the most fearsome greeter a small town in Illinois has ever laid eyes upon.

:p

What I can't figure out is if Harry does live, why stop the story after his 7th year (if he actually does go back to school)? Why stop it there? That's really when life begins. If he makes it, he has his whole life ahead of him.

What about all his adventures after that? It's kind of sad, I think.

While I realize that many threads have been created on this topic, I thought one where potential spoilers could be uttered be erected. So, having learned insight on Horcruxes, the Ginny/Harry *arguable* (tho I think not) ship, the *arguable* Ron/Hermione ship, R.A.B., etc, how do you think it will end?

My own little theory, just how I think the series would be best summed up, goes as follows.

Harry (and R.A.B./DA/Aurors/whoever) destroys all other 4 horcruxes (assuming locket WAS destroyed.) Somewhere, Ginny, Ron, Hermy, Harry, Mad-eye, whoever, are together, surrounded by death eaters. Everyone has been stunned, 'cept Harry, before LV starts really messing with him. Crucius curses everywhere, kicking, mutilating, sectosempra the crew, while Harry watches. Then, LV decides to start killing off the crew, starting, (maybe finishing) with Ginny, before inevitably turning to Harry. 'Cept, before the AK is aimed at Ginny (or Ron, or Luna, or Hermy, why not even Grawp) Harry screams 'Noooooooooooooooooo' or something valiant like that, jumping in from of the AK. He's killed, but woopsie daisy, LV didn't know that Harry was actually a horcrux, or maybe didn't know they killed Nagina before LV came. So, Harrys dead, could have not died, but died for everyone else's sake. LV is for sure now certain that he is unstoppable; last line of defense for the rest of the world was the now dead Harry. So, he turns the AK to one of the others, shoots it off, and wouldn't you know, the same love magic that Dumbledore has ALWAYS preached, and his mother practiced, send that curse right back at LV. He's dead, so's Harry, he has a funeral, the world comes to bid him farewell, Muggles are informed, Vernon and Petunia and Dudders are there, Ginny and co. realize he sacrificed himself for them, it being the only way to kill Voldemort (but only doing it for love.)

Lets here how you have it coming out. Please use this thread instead of dropping spoilers into other "What Next" threads.
I think the veil is important. I think the department of mysteries and the room that is always locked will play a role. When Sirius dies, he went through the veil--body and soul.

I think Harry will track down and destroy the Horcruxes, until all that is left of Voldemort is his body and is bit of soul. If Harry can get him to pass through the veil (which doesn't requre an AK curse, then Voldemort cannot return. But what is it about Harry that will allow this to happen? I have no idea. And how the locked room in the DoM plays a role, I have no idea.

ok...since we are speculating...
here's my take on an ending.

Harry, Ron and Hermione will go off in search of the Horocruxes (without anyone else! this would break harry's promise to dumbledore about not telling anyone!!!!) The rest of the gang will get caught up in some other adventure but they will eventually meet up in some final cimax involving LV.

It will be a dire situation, possibly with a main character dying, and Harry will be at LV mercy. LV will aim the AK at Harry but Ginny will jump in front of it and save Harry's life, the spell will once again backfire, and since LV will have no more horcruxes he will die.

Whether Ginny lives due to some magical miracle or not is left to be decided...

Alas, I think i agree with most people here that say Harry will die. I believe the happiest ending for him will be that he can join his family and other loved ones (you know who I mean!) in the 'next great adventure' - as Dumbledore puts it. Yes, Harry will fight Voldemort and they'll be sure to take each other out.

My friend (who isn't a HP fan) said that JK should just kill Harry in the sixth book and suprise the socks off everyone! (for future refrence, she also believes Dumbledore is evil) :P

ITS GOing to end with the last word Scar :)

Harry will defeat Dumbledore and end up as the headmaster of Hogwarts.
Snape will be defeated at Voldemorts side.

quote "I hope Harry won't have to die, but it's likely. I think he'll either die with Voldemort, or Voldemort will die at his hand. Some people think it's likely he might just walk through the veil, but I hope he doesn't."

I doubt Harry would do that I mean come on, this cant be exactly like Lord of the Rings, and for that matter, DD can't come back to life for the same reason, JKR isn't writing another LOTR, people need to start realizing she isnt going to recycle plots that much!

Here is my plot. Know that this may include my wishful thinking.

Trio gives in to order. Track down the three horcruxes. He learns of how to destroy LV and is ready to fight him. he goes to meet Ginny for one last time in case he :angel: ThenHarry goes to meet Ginny, too bad Ambush!!!!!Then Harry and the whole Weasley family are there(Hermione too). Harry calls LV a coward for not facing him one on one. LV uses crucio on Harry and then they fight one on one. Harry sees curses flying at the family and he goes berserk. He uses love to kill LV and he just knocks the **** out of the DEs and then boom MoM arrives 1hr late. Harry has happy life blah blah blah. Then last chapter is of epilogue. Then an exrta epilogue showing Harry's death from old age. Blah blah blah.

Ok now that was mostly my wishful thinking that Harry doesn't bite the dust.

ITS GOing to end with the last word Scar :)

Hopefully in a description of Harry and Ginny's baby, as in "the family gathered at Godric's Hollow to welcome the new Potter into the world, she had Lily's eyes, and Ginny's hair, and no scar..."

No scar being significant as in healthy, happy, protected, nurtured... in her/his world.

I think there are going to be more books after book seven. Just because there are seven years at Hogwarts doesnt mean Harry has to kill Voldemoret in the next book. I'm pretty sure Harry was serious when he said he wasnt going back to school for his seventh year and nobody will be able to convince him to go back (how will he destroy Horcruxes while taking Potions?) Harry will probably travel since hes shown he can apparate (all he has to do is pass the test.) He will probably learn more about Voldemort and learn more from Dumbledore's friends. JKR also said that James and Lily's jobs will play a HUGE roll in the book and since Harry said he might go back to Godric's Hollow it would make since for him to find out more about them there. I think the Harry Potter books are just now really starting.

I had a dream on this matter the other day. The Dream was that i was watching the final film in the cinema. Voldemort was killed by a Dementor as he could not conjur a patronus and after that Harry was killed but i can't remember how. Anyway, after this happened the film just consisted of music and lots of short scenes. Ron and Hermione had many kids and a long happy life together which helped them get over harry's death in the short term. Oh yeah didi i mention that this film was rated 18. LOL.

I had a dream on this matter the other day. The Dream was that i was watching the final film in the cinema. Voldemort was killed by a Dementor as he could not conjur a patronus and after that Harry was killed but i can't remember how. Anyway, after this happened the film just consisted of music and lots of short scenes. Ron and Hermione had many kids and a long happy life together which helped them get over harry's death in the short term. Oh yeah didi i mention that this film was rated 18. LOL.

Voldy biting it at the hands, er, mouthy of a dementor - poetic! Good call. But your dream needs one edit - Harry lives! :eyebrows:

I also hopes he lives but it would also be more emotional if he dies. That would make sure i never forget about the Harry Potter series. finally as a former H/H shipper you could call my dream a nightmare.

Hopefully in a description of Harry and Ginny's baby, as in "the family gathered at Godric's Hollow to welcome the new Potter into the world, she had Lily's eyes, and Ginny's hair, and no scar..."

No scar being significant as in healthy, happy, protected, nurtured... in her/his world.


I thought of two other possiblities for an ending with 'scar' , well the ending is kind of the same but with 1 important difference.

Harry lives:

Harry and Ginny talking - 'Holding him close with tears of relief and happiness ginny kissed his scar'

Harry dies:

Either at his funeral or as he dies - 'She peered at his now peaceful face, tears streaming down her face, leaning down Ginny said her last goodbye to the man she loves, then kissed the reason for his death, the lighting shaped scar.'

Ok the writing is bad, but wat of the ideas?

As for if wat i think, too close to call it could go either way. Tho i'd like to think he survives.

I believe the series will end soon after Harry and Voldemort square off, whatever the outcome may be. In the end, I believe Harry will succeed at finding and destroying all of the horcruxes. At the very end of the book, Harry and Voldemort will square off and I believe Harry will triumph, but his win will come at a price. I believe he'll have to make some kind of grerat sacrifice in order to kill Voldemort. I'm hoping that sacrifice won't be his life, but that's certainly a possibility. Regardless of whether he survives or not though, I believe the series will end with Voldemort's destruction.

I'm still sticking with my thoughts that neither of the Trio will die. However, I agree with many others that the other Horcruxes will be destroyed, with the final one destroyed during the final confrontation with Voldemort, possibly leading to his downfall. I don't believe though, that Voldemort will "die" as such...there has been too much made out of the fact that there are worst things than death to not have it come true in some way. In what way, I am not sure, but I loved the idea that someone had of a Dementor type fate for Voldemort :)

So, in the end, Harry Potter is victorious, the wizarding world is once again at peace, and the Dark Lord Voldemort, the most powerful, evil wizard the world has ever known -- and you shudder at his name -- begins his job at Wal-Mart as the most fearsome greeter a small town in Illinois has ever laid eyes upon.
lol!
"Welcome to Wal-Ma- -... WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT ME LIKE THAT! AVADA KEDAVRA! ... Darn these toy discount wands! welcome to wal-mart. yeah, yeah, you better walk away."
:P

Part of me thinks J.K. may pull out a shocker for the end. No idea what it is. But she is pretty good at surprising her readers. She's done it throughout the series. :evil:

Here's my general overview: Harry & Co. will come back to school. He manages (with help) to find the Horcruxes and destroy them. Good guys and bad guys will come together in a final clash. Some of the lesser characters (possibly Mad-Eye, a Weasley, or a classmate or two) may die hero's deaths. Harry and Voldemort have a confrontation somehow separated from "the action". Harry destroys the final Horcrux then and there, thereby mortalizing Voldemort. Snape takes this opportunity to stab (metaphorically, probably) his false (?) master in the back, but ultimately dies. Harry, given the advantage by this distraction, takes the initiative and defeats Voldemort. The survivors of the melee? Harry, Ron, Hermione, Ginny, McGonagle, Lupin, Tonks, most if not all of the rest of the Weasleys. Not sure about Hagrid, Neville, or Luna, or other Order/D.A. members. A bittersweet, (more sweet than bitter) ending, yet with hope. ((I think Harry will be known as "The Boy-Who-Lived And Killed The Nastiest Evil Wizard Of All Time, Had Eight Kids With Ginny Weasley, And Lived To A Ripe Old Age)). ;) Yes, oftentimes the hero dies saving the world; but a prevalent theme of the series has been Hope and Love and Choices. Harry's death just doesn't ring true to me with looking at the whole story so far. That may just mean I need to go back and re-read, eh?

There are worse things than death, you know.


What people miss here is Voldemort, in the process of mutilating his soul, has already sentenced himself to a fate worse than death. This is the true meaning of Dumbledore's statement. Similar to a dementor victim, Voldemort's soul has been destroyed.

Another thing people need to understand is the concept of ghosts in this series. It appears to be a form of "wizard hell". Fear of death prevents the person from moving on to the next life, or from partaking of the creature comforts of the current one. It is also likely very uncomfortable. You need to die to become a ghost, and from what I've witnessed, it seems a likely and fitting fate for Voldemort.

So what will happen? Well, we need to look at a couple of technicalities seen in the prophecy:

"Either must die at the hand of the other."

First of all, contrary to a rather popular belief among the HP crowd, "Either" is used as a pronoun here. Meaning it can ONLY be singular. Okay, so only one will die.

Next, we look at the phrase "at the hand". What's interesting about this is that it does not mean what most think it does! "At the hand" is very different from "by the hand". "At the hand" means "near".

So basically, what this line means is that one (and *only* one) will die *near* the other.

Simply put, this implies Harry and Dumbledore's rather simple interpretation that there will be a definite victory or loss in the final battle. Now, Harry may be *willing* to sacrifice himself, but that doesn't mean he'll die. It's the willingness to do so that is important. We've already seen something similar with Ron.

I don't see any way of giving this series closure without Voldemort's death at the final battle.

Therefore, Harry wins.

Now, the "at the hand" technicality does leave one thing open: Harry may definitely have help in defeating Voldemort. We shall see.

To Add:

I believe the book may have an "extended ending" similar to what we've seen in series such as Lord of the Rings. I think we need to see how Harry re-adjusts to post-Voldemort life. Not to mention that before Half-Blood Prince, I always wondered why Ginny was a year behind Harry. ;)

Sorry, but that bubble was THOUROUGHLY burst when Dumbledore was done in.

*slaps you with a Yoda plushie*

One note on the Children's book thing. I do remember JKR once saying that she wrote the series to be something that she would have wanted to read as a *Child*. Second of all, Harry Potter is HEAVILY based on other stories, the most notorious being "The Little White Horse", "Manxmouse", and the various Jane Austen books. Manxmouse especially. There is definitely a reason JKR keeps mentioning it.

Read your way through Manxmouse and you'll be seriously questioning your belief that Harry will die, and you'll be ROTFL at the same time. ;) There were some VERY definite parodies (for lack of better word) of Manxmouse in Half Blood Prince that left me and a friend ROTFL!

Polychrome, thanks for dissecting the prophecy, well done. Very, very good points! I wouldn't be surprised by an epilogue, either, tying up whatever loose ends there may be!

Harry can't deflect the AK because it only worked with Lily because she had the choice to live.

Harry can't deflect the AK because it only worked with Lily because she had the choice to live.

Harry can use Love against Voldemort in other ways....not just a protection of love on himself, but the love he has for his friends and Ginny. I think we will go back to that locked room in the Department of Mysteries...why would it have been mentioned otherwise? I think that room - full of love - might be Voldemort's downfall.

lol!
"Welcome to Wal-Ma- -... WHY ARE YOU LOOKING AT ME LIKE THAT! AVADA KEDAVRA! ... Darn these toy discount wands! welcome to wal-mart. yeah, yeah, you better walk away."
:P

Part of me thinks J.K. may pull out a shocker for the end. No idea what it is. But she is pretty good at surprising her readers. She's done it throughout the series. :evil:


Did you steal that candy "TELL THE TRUTH!" You did, that is a good boy... :rotfl:

Harry, Hermione, Ginny and Ron go off to find Horcruxes. They need someone else's help for each Horcrux, such as Luna, Neville, and perhaps some teachers. All the Horcruxes are found... except one. They have real trouble finding the last Horcrux and it turns out to be a surprise, i.e. one of them, or Vol's wand, or something. Then they all go to defeat Vol, and Harry then has to go it alone. I think that Vol's going to die, and I think Harry might, also.

In the epilogue:
If Harry's still alive, he'll be with Ginny. He will be an auror, and they will gut 12 Grimmauld Place and live there. Kreacher will die but Dobby will come and live with them.
Ron and Hermione will get it together. Hermione becomes a teacher at Hogwarts and Ron does something unspecific.

ok...since we are speculating...
here's my take on an ending.

Harry, Ron and Hermione will go off in search of the Horocruxes (without anyone else! this would break harry's promise to dumbledore about not telling anyone!!!!) The rest of the gang will get caught up in some other adventure but they will eventually meet up in some final cimax involving LV.

It will be a dire situation, possibly with a main character dying, and Harry will be at LV mercy. LV will aim the AK at Harry but Ginny will jump in front of it and save Harry's life, the spell will once again backfire, and since LV will have no more horcruxes he will die.

Whether Ginny lives due to some magical miracle or not is left to be decided...

No.. Harry can tell Hermonie and Ron. Dumbledore said they were well trusted.

I think there are going to be more books after book seven.

JKR has said many times that there will not be.

Here is what I think; I've said variant before, but here goes.

The power that Harry has which Voldemort does not is the ability to love and care for people. JKR is a Christian (Presbyterian, to be specific, I believe) and one of the central doctrines of Christianity is that love is stronger than death. Overcoming evil by evil is impossible, evil can only be overcome by good. Vengance is considered wrong. For Harry to kill Voldemort would be to stoop to the latter's level. "Love your enemies," Jesus told His disciples.

Harry will have to learn to lay aside his hatred, anger, and bitterness and learn to love Voldemort. "Impossible!" you say. I reply, "Difficult, but not impossible." Tom Riddle became Voldemort because nobody loved him (his father didn't; his mother might have, had she lived, but she didn't; although the people at the orphanage cared for him, they didn't really care about him); somewhere down below Voldemort is Tom, and if Harry can find that remnant of Tom Riddle, and love him, then the damage Voldemort has done to himself can be undone by the power of love.

Hence, the Order will find Harry comforting a weeping young man. Harry will say, "Lord Voldemort is no more. I would like you to meet my new friend, Tommy." Tommy will raise his face, and we will see that his forehead is marked with a scar identical to Harry's. ("Thomas", you will remember, in Hebrew means 'the twin.')

do you think she'll definately stop at 7 they'll be alot of pressure to carry on!

do you think she'll definately stop at 7 they'll be alot of pressure to carry on!

CS Lewis was pressured to write more Chronicles of Narnia, and Dorothy L. Sayers was pressured to write more Lord Peter Wimsey, but both stood firm.

What if she stopped Harry Potter, but wrote more novels about the world itself...I mean she has a really good idea with the place and where it all takes place. I think she'll stop Harry Potter at book seven for sure though.

First of all, contrary to a rather popular belief among the HP crowd, "Either" is used as a pronoun here. Meaning it can ONLY be singular. Okay, so only one will die.

Although I agree with this, do you think it is possible for them to be killed by another? For example, if Voldemort kills Harry, then the prophecy has bee fulfilled, but then would another member of the Order be able to kill Voldemort?

I ask this because one of the main themes is "choosing between what is easy and what is right". Is it possible that Harry will sacrifice himself to weaken Voldemort in some way, allowing him to be defeated by someone else?

One thing I could see happening would be a huge choice for Harry. The choice would be either, join Voldemort (I can imagine a "join me Harry, together we can rule the world" and so on speech from Voldy) or to take him on and possibly give his life. I think it's easy to distinguish which one is easy and which one is right, and personally I think Harry is a person who would do the right thing.

Same thing as happened in the first book is going to happen again, Ron will be the one to sacrifice himself, with his whole, "no harry you must go on" thing while playing chess there. Hermionie will have a big role in some puzzle solving sort of thing like with the potion bottles, but perhaps this time its horcruxes, and harry will stumble into killing voldie and saving the day at the end. Perhaps instead of touching his skin, he gives him a hug... Basicaly the climax of the first book will be elaborated and stretched to fill 700+ pages.

also, this is not the lord of the rings, so knock it off with that. JK said she didnt even like that series.

Voldemort aims his curse at Ginny and Harry runs pushing himself and Voldy BEYOND THE VEIL.

What if she stopped Harry Potter, but wrote more novels about the world itself...I mean she has a really good idea with the place and where it all takes place. I think she'll stop Harry Potter at book seven for sure though.
She has already hinted that she will not write the novels, but may publish something like Hogwarts a History, or the Notes I Used When Writing Harry Potter, or something. That would be fine with me. I have a feeling she'll write Book 7 so that we won't want anymore, there will be a decisive end to the story.

Don't worry so much about the prophecy, it's a Macbeth-style one (Jo doesn't have to follow if she doesn't want to. Both may die, neither may die, everyone could die, it's open.)

I figure Voldemort will go a fair way toward taking over the world, then Harry will kill him. Maybe even at the Ministry itself. Oooh, even more ironic, Harry crushes Voldemort with one of the many statues of himself that he will surely place in his throne room and the atrium, which is where they will duel. That would kinda suck (the Dark Lord dying a looney-tunes death) but the irony...

Yesterday, I saw something in my tea leaves, which I immediately posted to Why did Snape spare Harry? (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=60043) thread. Today, I felt sudden urge to look into my crystal ball, and saw everything much more clearly.

Background:

Snape’s role is ever so important, as he doesn’t want to become Voldemort's "most loyal servant" but to seize ultimate power himself! He had been playing double agent for many years, as that was the way to get closer to his final target, and in book 6 he sided with Voldemort, whose death now would have weakened the dark side too much, thus having no significant evil forces to lead in the end. After Voldie's death, killing Dumbledore wouldn't have helped too much, as good side would already have won, and Dumbledores death would have been just a sad incident, not breaking the "battle moral".

By killing Dumbledore now, the Order is significantly weakened, but Voldemort is not yet gained full control, so better chance for Snape to plan the final blow. Snape wanted Harry alive because he realises that Harry can help him to get rid of the annoying Dark Lord. Snape also knows about horcruces, which he have discovered with Regulus Black. Now he has carefully calculated the events so that remaining horcruces will be destroyed while his future servants are gaining grounds. Once Harry has dealt with the horcrux issue, Snape expects him to proceed towards Voldemort.

Final battle:

Present in the scene are Harry, Voldemort, Nagini, Snape and Wormtail and some other people, possibly Ginny and/or Ron and Hermione who Voldemort seems to be possessing or otherwise controlling (the crystal ball is a bit foggy in this point). Five horcruces have been destroyed, leaving Nagini and Voldy himself.

Voldy is triumphant that he will now finish Harry off. Harry suddenly raises his wand, and casts sectumsembra spell to Nagini. However, Voldemort has let his mind, and therefore Nagini’s, to penetrate Harry, who falls to ground in terrible agony from his own spell. The Dark Lord points his wand towards Harry. Suddenly, Snape casts Avada Kadavra on Nagini, and Harry’s pain eases immediately.

Mildly surprised, Voldemort turns towards Snape who shows no signs of obedience any more. Instead, Snape gives a loathing look at his former master and makes a number of arrogant remarks about Voldemort’s unworthiness and his own superiority (which I don’t repeat here in detail). Snape prepares to finish Voldemort off.

However, Snape’s act is putting Harry’s beloved one(s) in mortal danger, as they would also be hit by Snape’s spell. Harry stands up and throws himself between Snape and others. Voldemort’s and Harry’s minds are still merged. Harry’s ultimate act of love causes a strange reaction in Voldemort’s broken one seventh of a soul, which explodes and forms a protective shield against Snape’s curse. Dark Lord is dead.

An evil grin appears to Snape’s face, as he prepares to get rid of Harry. “Potter, you fool”, he says, “you may think I should be grateful to you for killing that old git, but that was pure luck, and your mediocre skills are no mach for my powers. Yet, I think even your pitiful brains should be able to understand that I shall now kill you”.

Wormtail’s master is dead and he has no intention to serve Snape whom he hates profoundly, especially after the humiliating experience as Snape’s “assistant”. When Snape is about to cast another Avada Kadavra to Harry, Wormtail attacks from behind. A fight ends with both Snape and Wormtail dead.

Oops, crystal ball fell down. Can’t tell what happens after this.

All I know is that the last book wil not end with the scentance 'And they lived happily ever after'.

Once LV is sorted Dedalus Diggle will step down as acting leader of OOTP, marry Luna Lovegood, and they will start a new life together breeding Blibbering Humdingers.

Now for the more controversial predictions:

Harry, Ron, Hermione and Ginny will survive (though some of them might have parts missing)

Harry will have to show Snape forgiveness.

Snape will help Harry in a big way. Possiby saving Harry or one of his close friends from death by use of his healing powers.

Snape will survive. He and Harry will not become friends. Snape may become the future big evil ("evil cannot be totally eradicated").

Neville's gran will re-enrol at Hogwarts and replace Harry as Seeker. Perhaps not but I think she will have a part to play. Possibly fighting proudly alongside Neville (maybe one or both of them will die)

Harry will have the final fight with LV but I think the twist will be that LV will do something that causes his own death

Longer term Hermione will become Headmistress of Hogwarts. As a present for her 100th birthday Harry will tell Ron that she fancies him and Ron willl propose.

Tonks will turn Draco's hair red and he will spend the rest of his life serving as a house-elf for the Weasleys.

Finally Sybill Trelawney will be revealed to be my real mother.

I have had quite a few theories in the last few weeks and the one I currently think is the most likely is Harry destroys all the horcruxes (who would go with him I'm not sure def Ron and Hermione and I can't help thinking that Ginny is going to tag along, plus they might need someone underage again) then Harry learns about a spell that DD created that is like Expecto Patronum but instead of thinking happy thoughts you fill yourself with love (your love for others and love others have had for you) this creates a love Patronus. The hate curse (Avada Kedavra) is bested by the love spell (Amorus Patronum?) and LVs killing curse rebounds off to kill himself. I still think that Harry dying to end the series is a good possibility but for now I will stick with my current theory.

I think it's important to remember that Harry and Voldemort share wands, therefore it is impossible for them to duel. If one kills the other, they will have to be wandless. i don't think harry will die, but he won't be happily ever after either. Something horrible will happen, including the deaths of lupin,etc.

Like someone else said, I am hoping that Harry survives, as the prophecy indicates that one of them will be able to live when the other is dead. I think we can all presume that Voldemort is not going to survive the seventh book (what a twist if he did!), so that means that once he is gone, Harry will be free to live a full life! (Well, I'm hoping anyway!)

I don't think she will write anymore, as she has pretty much indicated she wants to keep it at seven books, but I think JK will include some sort of epilogue, so the readers are kept satisfied.

The books are, afterall, about Harry and Voldemort, as it starts when Voldemort kills Harry's parents, and it will finish with his death.

maybe the prophecy about "who live when the other dead" not aimed for harry and voldemort, but just for harry. Maybe to defeat voldemort one of harry friends have to sacrifice for it. Maybe Ron??

I think it's important to remember that Harry and Voldemort share wands, therefore it is impossible for them to duel. If one kills the other, they will have to be wandless.

This is a good point but I think the key to this is the fact that they cannot duel. They are able to use their wands against each other but if spells are sent simultaneously then Priori Incantatum occurs. If they are doing spells at intervals I think it may be possible. I imagine Harry Apparating every time LV sends an AK at him.

Also as to the prophecy I think that it really is irrelevant because it doesn't have to come true. One of them will kill the other simply because they will not rest until the other is destroyed. Harry's motivation is the deaths caused by LV and LV is motivated by the prophecy which he believes. I just don't think we can say "The prophecy says this so it's gonna happen."

My guess is this...

after destroying the 6th horcrux, the Potter Posse go to confront Voldemort head on. when they clash they fight but it quickly becomes apparent that they have entered a stalemate (neither side can gain the advantage). Eventually Draco who has been having an internal conflict then turns on Voldemort and to every ones surprise, Voldemort doesnt die. Then Harry gets a brain wave and remembers his talk with Dumbledore (Voldemort gave me some of his powers?) and thinks, im the 8th Horcrux. He rushes out, drops his wand, and punches Voldemort in the nose only to be killed by lord Voldemort. This action makes Voldemort vulnerable and he is quickly killed by someone else. (Neville, in my opionion. as he is the other one who could have been talked about in the Prophecy.)

this scenario also explains the prophecy and its just cool.

My guess is this...

after destroying the 6th horcrux, the Potter Posse go to confront Voldemort head on. when they clash they fight but it quickly becomes apparent that they have entered a stalemate (neither side can gain the advantage). Eventually Draco who has been having an internal conflict then turns on Voldemort and to every ones surprise, Voldemort doesnt die. Then Harry gets a brain wave and remembers his talk with Dumbledore (Voldemort gave me some of his powers?) and thinks, im the 8th Horcrux. He rushes out, drops his wand, and punches Voldemort in the nose only to be killed by lord Voldemort. This action makes Voldemort vulnerable and he is quickly killed by someone else. (Neville, in my opionion. as he is the other one who could have been talked about in the Prophecy.)

this scenario also explains the prophecy and its just cool.


While I don't think that Harry is a horcrux (I have explained my thoughts in the Harry, Ginny, Horcruxes thread) if I may add to your theory something that I thought a while ago...
If Harry is a horcrux then maybe when he dies his blood that was used to rebirth LV will form a connection so that if Harry dies LV will as well. I was just trying to figure out how the blood worked into it and that is what I came up with.

apparently the seris ends with scar so maybe

Ron and Hermione both gasped Harry wheres your Scar
harry looked in the mirror he was so beat up from the battle his eyes slowly made its way up his face but there was no scar
every one looked at harry lieing on the ground. but where was his scar.

Harry will be the final horcrux and will manage to return Voldemorts piece of soul (based on Harry feeling like his head is being ripped in two when the conection between him and Voldie is active) when Voldie recieves this soul bit back it will have Harry's memories with it all the emotional pain etc Voldie has caused. Voldemort will suddenly have shall we say a conscience and the sudden pain of the "knowledge" of what he has done will be the fate worse than death and be his undoing, perhaps even killing him.

I think we saw a glimpse at a more mature Harry at the end of book six.
I hope in book seven harry is more reminiscent of luke in return of the jedi.
In the end I think Snape's true motives will be revealed and he will help Harry. Considering how miserable most of VD's supporters are, Peter, Narcissa, Malfoy, I am thinking that some of them will turn against VD and somehow contribute to Harry winning the battle.

I just can't figure out who of the good guys will die, cause I just don't want any of them to die. I hope in the end Mr. Weasley becomes the new Minister of Magic.

I agree with most of you on the board. Harry may die but it's really hard to tell when a part of me wants him to succeed killing LV. I also hope that his friends are there till the end and not a one gets hurt but that is highly unlikly too. Hate that this sounds like a cliche but we will have to wait and see.

Nicole P

I agree with most of you on the board. Harry may die but it's really hard to tell when a part of me wants him to succeed killing LV. I also hope that his friends are there till the end and not a one gets hurt but that is highly unlikly too. Hate that this sounds like a cliche but we will have to wait and see.

Nicole P
I think (and hope desperatly!) that Harry survives and has that nice walking into the sunset ending with Ginny and co. I know that it would be a wee bit cliched but don't you think that Harry now has so much to live for? He loves Ginny, has plenty of friends, has a destiny to fullfill, has the burning desire for revenge and also has the good chance of getting a great job at the MOM as an Auror if he manages to get to school and do his NEWTS.
In my opinion Harry now has just to much to live for to be killed off. However, I also think that if Ginny is killed then Harry will also die (kind of mirrors his parents a bit.)

Ok here's what I think will happen. It all goes down at Hogwarts

Ron kills Nagini with the griffindor sword right before the final battle begins(LV was using her to spy) Harry goes out to face LV alone but finds that LV isn't alone. Ron and Hermione, the rest of the student body and teachers join harry. Then the order shows up and people from the MoM and possibly the Centaurs and other creatures from the forest.

Harry and LV banter a bit Lv proclaims that his DE's are loyal and Harry's friends will turn tail at the sight of their power. Snape and a few others(not peter but maybe the malfoys) move to harry's side and claim that they will follow Harry( earlier harry finds out snape was acting on DD orders, not that he's happy about but he understands).

Battle begins at first things are even but then the bad guys begin to turn the tide. The good guy won't abandon their leader th. Lupin dies, then peter dies saving Harry, all of the Mauraders are gone:( Harry and snape are fighting LV when he disables snape and cruico's Harry. Harry's wand breaks. LV enters Harry's mind but harry retailates by forcing his happiest love filled moments into LV's mind. LV tries to pull free but harry holds on.

LV is now weakened and on his back with wand on the ground behind him.Ron throws harry the sword. Harry tells him its time he is finished. Lv says he can't be killed and he will return no matter what harry does. Harry then pulls from pockets the Diary, the ring, the locket, the cup, The raven claw relic. Says Nagini makes six and you are the final piece. LV screams out trying to get to his wand and harry stabs LV in the Heart. With LV dead the DE's turn tail most of them are captured.

Then an epiloge where we learn the fates of our hero's. Tonks has Lupins baby, Harry is the Godfather and makes sure both are well cared for. Ron and Hermione get married as do Harry and Ginny. hermione teaches, Ron and Harry are Aurours, ginny joins the twins in the joke shop. Happy happy happy

I think the veil is important. I think the department of mysteries and the room that is always locked will play a role. When Sirius dies, he went through the veil--body and soul.

I think Harry will track down and destroy the Horcruxes, until all that is left of Voldemort is his body and is bit of soul. If Harry can get him to pass through the veil (which doesn't requre an AK curse, then Voldemort cannot return. But what is it about Harry that will allow this to happen? I have no idea. And how the locked room in the DoM plays a role, I have no idea.

I think that this is probably very true. I think that the arch and the veil are a not so transparent nod to C. S. Lewis' Chronicles of Narnia. There is a very similar door that is found in books 4 and 7. As this is a 7 book series as well and as the doorway in Lewis' The Last Battle plays the critical role in the entire series...it's very possible that we will see something similar.

Also, Rowling has said that this series is about life and death...and these themes seem to be summed up in the veil. I think that it is possible that Harry and VM go through the veil and Harry will be reunited with DD, his parents, and Sirius while VM is destroyed since he has a damaged soul that is incapable of loving. We'll see.

I see the founders items re-united for the first time at Hogwarts and considerable power being added to Harry's side, any remianing DEs quickly taken out of the picture by this new found power and Harry left on a level field against LV, and of course Harry wins by trusting Snape and the love that he has for others and they have for him.

I truely hope Harry does not die, i agree that it might be cliche` if he gets it in the end. But then again what isn't cliche` these days. Here's how I hope the ending goes. Alright this is going to be long......

After all the Horcruxes are destroyed the last do or die battle begins to rage on. Aurors, the Order, and (to the dismay of the adults) the DA will show up/be there already. Harry and Co. will be battling through the ranks and it appears to be pretty even match up, but Harry knows he has to move on to get to LV so I imagine him trudging up the stairs and the DA notices this and tries to head up along with him. Along the way they will be headed off by some of the more powerful DE like Bella and other people. Here is where Longbottom gets his chance and squares off against Bella. Neville tells the others to go on ahead (perhaps Luna will stay behind to help him? maybe not since people are Saying Jo said they will not be a couple). So the remaining DA continue forward and run into more trouble when some unexpected help arrives, Draco (perhaps to avenge papa?). So Draco, Ron, Herm., and Ginny will open the path for Harry to go on alone(Kind of like what Ron said "It's you that has to make it not us" or something like that). And the final scene begins....the only thing idk what to think is who will be there, Wormtail or Snape, or both? Either way I think they are crucial to Harry's survival, I beileve one of them will save Harry. Harry will once again be against the ropes either one of them will take the downfall for Harry. After this enuses LV will monolouge about how he and Harry are one in the same (especially if it is Snape who saves him), he will mention of how much Harry hates Snape, hating him enough to want to kill him. But harry will freak and feel extremely guilty for these feelings b/c they will be wrong. Then LV will begin to cast many painful spells on him, and he will give the whole speech "When I'm done with you I'll go after your friends" but something in Harry will burst when that happens as Harry imagaines what he will do to the ones he loves and what he has done to the others. Then Fawkes' song will begin to fill the room and LV will try to kill him and somehow Harry's ability to love and have compassion will allow him to prevail. The scar will obviously be the connection, much like how harry hurt in book one, the reverse will happen and when harry's emotion of love for others becomes increasingly stronger then LV's hate and greed. LV's body and soul will not be able to take it and might kind of be torn apart somehow, like LV will see visions of all the terrible things he's done in his life and it will drive him mad, and lead to his demise. When LV dies all the DE will know b/c I think it would be cool if like the Dark mark begins to burn off their arm and like leaves a scar, and natuarlly they will panic and try to run. Harry will be lying on the floor when his friends come rushing in and after they take in the awe of the situation they heave Harry up (Neville and Ron) and help him downstairs where every one (who is still alive) is waiting. Harry and everyone that helped in the last battle will be given an award, and it ends with the "mini" epilouge of their lives after LV's second war. So if the last word is Scar and that is connection with LV, it will disappear when he dies, like the dark mark.

But knowing how ggod I am at guessing, this could be way off, hope not though!

The trio, neville, ginny and luna will reform and together with the OOTP will fight LV and the DE's and dementers.

I do not believe that the Horcruxes were the only experiment Voldemort performed on himself to make himself immortal and that he will actually succeed in his quest to conquer death before the series is over (I believe that this is what he has been doing this whole time). In this sense, no one can actually kill him, even with all the Horcruxes destroyed. But I think, due to the scar-connection, he and Harry share his power and it only remains intact as long as Harry is alive. If Harry dies, all of Voldemort's powers will be gone and he will be in an even weaker state than he was as Vapormort and without the Horcruxes, he cannot remerge with the parts of his soul and return. This is the fate worse than death: immortal but powerless even than a ghost.

I think that for Voldemort to be conquered, Harry must die. And this is where the part of love being his greatest strength fits in: Harry is mostly selfless; he cares far more about others and if he needs to die for him to defeat Voldemort, then so be it, whereas Voldemort would never be able to kill himself to slay Harry (this would be the ultimate irony; for Voldemort to become invincible, Harry should've been kept safe). This way, the Prophecy would also be fulfilled: "Either must die at the hands of the other", if the Dark Lord kills the One, he will be defeated. And "He will have power the Dark Lord knows not", Voldemort could never imagine anyone ready to die to save his loved ones.

But here is another theory that I have been thinking of: what if Harry dies, but is able to return? What if Sirius is able to guide him out of the underworld because he fell through the Veil rather than actually died (rather in a sense of that he's a living, stuck in the land of the dead, rather than an 'actual' dead)? Only time will tell...

LV is for sure now certain that he is unstoppable; last line of defense for the rest of the world was the now dead Harry. So, he turns the AK to one of the others, shoots it off, and wouldn't you know, the same love magic that Dumbledore has ALWAYS preached, and his mother practiced, send that curse right back at LV. He's dead, so's Harry, he has a funeral, the world comes to bid him farewell, Muggles are informed, Vernon and Petunia and Dudders are there, Ginny and co. realize he sacrificed himself for them, it being the only way to kill Voldemort (but only doing it for love.)

Lets here how you have it coming out. Please use this thread instead of dropping spoilers into other "What Next" threads.



To all the people that think Harry will die:
Remember the prophecy states "neither can live while the other survives." It is all about one of them surviving. Naturally, for this series to finish Voldemort MUST die, otherwise we have no resolution. If the prophecy holds true, then when Voldemort dies, Harry will live...
C'mon people....

agreed

I think Harry will ultimetly die in a similar way as his mother while saving Ginny from death from the AV and with all the Horcrux's gone Volemort will not survive this time when the curse backfires .

My friend and I sat up last night and thought about what might happen in book 7. We agree with the above thought except for the part where he dies. We think that he is just severely injured. JKR has said that only one will die, so Harry will live but he will probably be injured.

I have this theory that the trio goes after the horcuxes, and dont go back to school, but tell lupin and tonks wut theyre doing, and entrust lupin as secret keeper.

To all the people that think Harry will die:
Remember the prophecy states "neither can live while the other survives." It is all about one of them surviving. Naturally, for this series to finish Voldemort MUST die, otherwise we have no resolution. If the prophecy holds true, then when Voldemort dies, Harry will live...
C'mon people....
Don't be so sure about that: a prophecy is open to many different interpretations. If Harry dies, but Voldemort ends up powerless, one still has died (just like the prophecy sais) and the Dark Lord will still be vanguished (also, just like the prophecy sais). So go don't 'C'mon people'; last time I checked Jo is the only one on this entire planet with all the answers and since she's known for twists and the obvious answer is rarely the right one in these books, the true meaning of the prophecy will probably be the biggest twist of all.

Dumbledore tells Harry that putting a horcrux into a living creature is not a good idea because the horcrux can be influenced by it's host. If Lily has been protecting Harry all these years then perhaps she has transformed LV's soul piece (If Harry is a horcrux and LV takes back
his soul piece he may get the conscience he lacks). Maybe this is the way to destroy Voldemort.

We already know that Voldemort is incapable of going into Harry's head due to the love that is there. Can you imagine what a "love infused horcrux" will do to him?

The Scene in the Cave When Harry Force Feeds Dumbledore The Potion:

"I don't want...don't make me
Don't like ... want to stop
No. I don't want to ... I don't want to ... let me go
Make it stop, make it stop
No, no, no ... no ... I can't ... I can't, don't make me, I don't
want to
It's all my fault, all my fault, please make it stop. I know I did
wrong. Oh,
please make it stop and I'll never, never again.
Please, please, please, no ... not that, not that, I'll do anything
No more, please, no more
I want to die! I want to die! Make it stop, make it stop, I want to
die!
Kill me!"

Is this a preview of what will happen to Voldemort in book 7? when he takes the horcrux out of Harry and reinserts it into his head? He won't even suspect what it will do to him.

This type of ending is really satisfying for me because it would mean that Harry will turn Voldemort's weapon against him. Perhaps Harry's weakness is that he has a "people saving thing," like his mother did. Harry will find out in book 7 that he is the last horcrux and he will sacrifice himself. (I just hope that Ginny has knowledge from DiaryTom that she will use to save Harry.)


"...humans do have a knack of choosing precisely those things that are worst for them."

"Ah, now, I'm glad you asked me that. It was one of my more brilliant ideas, and between you and me, that's saying something. You see, only one who wanted to find the Stone--find it, but not use it--would be able to get it..." Sorcerer's/Philospher's Stone

Heres an ending, everyone dies(keep readin im bein serious), except Harry so he has some cheesy empowering fit of rightous fury from losing all those he loves and destroys Voldy, then he goes through the veil to be reunited with the people he most loves....

Well I was just thinking about the first chapter.
"The Boy Who Lived."
Perhaps the last chapter will be
"The Dark Lord who Died."
Hehehe.
Anyways, I think Harry'll live but JK'll find one way or another of making it, you know, JK-esque. She'll shread the cheese, and harden the mush. She's known for her skill in such anyway.

I've been rereading the books and there are numerous times
that Snape does Legimency on Harry (even as early as book one). Harry doesn't like it, and he feels the intrusion into his mind. Not only that, it's not until book 5 that Harry realizes that there is such a thing as Occlumency and Legimency--so it's obvious that when he felt that Snape was reading his mind, his feelings were right on the mark. How is what Snape does to Harry, without permission, any less worse than what Harry did to Snape when he saw that memory?

"Boiling with anger at Snape, his desire to do something desperate and risky had increased tenfold in the last few minutes. This seemed to show on Harry's face, for Dumbledore moved away from the window and looked more closely at Harry, a slight crease between his silver eyebrows.

"What has happened to you?"
"Nothing," lied Harry promptly.
"What has upset you?"
"I'm not upset."
"Harry, you were never a good Occlumens--"
The word was the spark that ignited Harry's fury.
"Snape!" he said, very loudly, and Fawkes gave a soft squawk behind them. "Snape's what's happened! He told Voldemort about the prophecy, it was him, he listened outside the door, Trelawny told me!" (Page 548, HBP)

It's nice that Dumbledore doesn't use "mind rape" to get information from Harry.

It's also interesting that Snape did not get mad at Harry when he got glimpses of his awful childhood. Snape got angry with Harry over the penseive memory because Harry saw something that Snape was trying to hide--and it wasn't about being hung upside down. (Harry just doesn't realize what that info is yet--I'm pretty sure Hermione will, though.)

1. We know that question 10 is about how to identify a werewolf.
2. We know that Lupin was looking strange and that Harry wondered whether the full moon was approaching.
3. We get a glimpse of the kind of person Lily was. We know that she liked James (at least I got that impression), and that James liked her.
4. We know that Snape has a very strong reaction to her interference
and oddly calls her a muddblood. (The next year he proudly gives
himself the moniker: Half-Blood Prince.)

In PoA Snape makes fun of Lupin's third year students for not knowing how to identify a werewolf; but Snape takes his OWL exams in 5th year.
Do you really think that he didn't know how to identify a werewolf?
Let's assume that he didn't. What do you think he was thinking
afterwards while he was going over his exam notes? I'm pretty sure that he was putting two-and-two together about Lupin. We know that Snape was always following James and gang around. And that he was trying to figure out why Lupin and the nurse where going to the whomping willow every month.Snape even gives this particular essay to Lupin's students--and guess who realizes what Lupin is because of it?
Hermione!

Hermione's mind works a lot like Snape's, by the way. She also has a nasty jealous temper (she attacks Ron with the birds in HBP). Since Snape seems to be proud of his mix blood background it makes more sense that he called Lily that particular name because he knew that it would hurt her and maybe because he didn't want James to know that he had any feelings for her.

Harry can't die in the end because didn't Trelawny say in a Divination lesson once that Harry would live to a ripe old age and have 12 or so children?
I know Trelawny might be a fraud but she has gotten several predictions right, so I'm hoping that Harry doesn't die

here are my thoughts on the end of book 7

Voldemort will die, none of the trio will die, Harry and Ginny will get together, Ron and Hermione will get together and bill and fleur will cancel their marrage.

i have a question. well it is widely believed that 'scar' is the last word of the series. and i have heard from a lot of people that the last chapter will be an epilogue. so does that mean that 'scar' is the last word of the narrative or of the epilogue? and what does it mean to our guesses to the story if 'scar' will be the last word of the narrative as opposed to the epilogue or vice versa?

I think that Harry will destroy all of the Horcruxes and get into a fight with Voldemort with his minions, and there will be an audience of the weasly's, the students, the ministry,etc... And then Voldemort will torture his friends and Harry will hear the cries of everyone in the audience. He will do something cool and all of the death eaters will fall over unconcious and then he will cause the fatal blow to Voldy with a spell if his own invention (he got the idea from snape. ) It will backfire or something and everyone will think he is dead (sobs, weeping) but it turns out he is not. He returns to the world (not literally of course) a week and a half later and is a big hero. He lives on to become legend to all of the little boys and girls who want to become good witches or wizards. THE END.
I know it is not very specific or anything...

Anyway i thought up some other cool ways for him to die also (but the one above is my favorite):

Harry pulls out a **glowing** (ooooooo....!) sword and does something to cause Voldy to fall and then Harry thrusts the sword into Voldy's forehead and he crumples to harry's feet (applause from audience). Harry becomes legend, etc...
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They are in some weird place (maybe Godrics Hollow or something) and harry is driving Voldy back with his wand. Voldy says some malvolent line ( "You do not scare me, neither did your parents! What are you to do now 'chosen one'? ") Harry says his line (" You disgust me! take that!") and does the expelliarmus charm. Voldy says his last line (Et tu Harry? Then fall Voldemort! ((just kidding)) :p ) Voldy is about to block it but Hermione quickly grabs the wand from his hand and ron places his foot behind him so he stumbles. Voldy gets hit with the spell and is forced backwards off of a cliff. All that was "Lord Voldemort" is shattered with the fatal 'thud' that is heard from far below. (It don't know, that one is pretty good too!)

J.K. rowling said it many times: She will be moving to an entirely new subject after she's done with book #7.

Ending of number 7:
Harry will locate and destroy the horcruxes with the help of Ron and Hermione only (he promised Dumbledore not to tell anyone else). He also gets help from the portrait of Dumbledore. The clue to the first one should be found in Godrick's hollow.
Voldy tries to corner him and kill him many times throughout the last book. Harry, who knows he has to destroy all the horcruxes before he can face him, narrowly escapes him everytime. How does he know how to avoid him? Inteligence and help come from Snape (who's good and spying on Voldy in accordance with the plan he devised with Dumbledore), and also with the help of the Order of the Phoenix, members of the D.A., and other friends.
One time only, Voldy catches him and is about to kill him from behind, the filthy coward, but Harry is saved by the intervention of Wormtail, who dies in his place, though unwillingly. Remember they are magically connected since Harry first saved him from Sirius (Hp &The prisoner of Azkaban).

Then the final scene:

Harry alone has to face the Dark Lord. They duel ferociously. Their wands are not functioning properly because they share the core from the same phoenix. Worse, Harry is incapable of using the Avada Kedavra which is an evil curse that would make him a murderer. Who wants that?
The Dark Lord sees his weakness and aims the killing curse at his heart, but BIG SURPRISE! the killing curse rebounds on him because Harry is protected by a secret unbreakable defense the same kind given to him by his mother long ago (which wore off when he turned 17). Where does this new unbreakable defense comes from? he doesn't know himself. I think it comes to him from Dumbledore.
All the horcruxes are destroyed, and the last bit of soul inside voldy leaves his body for good, and he dies. Harry did not kill voldemort, but Voldy effectively killed himself!
So Harry does finally fulfill the prophecy-without becoming a murderer, and he acquires another scar!

A new life starts for all our Heroes:

He start dating Ginny-seriously. Same with Hermione and Ron, Tonks and Lupin, Neville and Loony, Hagrid and Olympe, Snape and Grawp, Percy and the minister of magic, Umbridge and a creature part merman, part centaur, part goblin and part Hippogriff...

The end...

I think that Harry will destroy the horcruxes with the help of Ron and Hermione, and maybe even Dumbledore's portrait. Somewhere in there he might take a trip to Godric's Hollow. Then he will go to the final battle. I don't think the battle will have a bunch of spectators, but will be only Harry and Voldemort, that just seems like a nicer touch.

In fact I've got my own thread on this topic but ppl have redirected me here, so Iguess I'll just have to remove it.

Well I think it's the other way round:
LV tries the AK on Harry but Ginny sacrifices herself for love's sake and dies in the place of Harry 'destroying' LV at the same time.

There are 3 possible categories of endings: win, lose, or draw. I would count draw as either they both live or both die. Personally, I'd like to see alternative endings at the back of the first printing so if someone tries to spoil it like those jerks did with #6, they'd read the wrong ending! So there might be 3 chapter 24s & 25s, if those were the last chapters for the finale and aftermath.

I'm still trying to work out the final battle, which many of you would count as the ending. Here's what we know or suspect:
#1-JKR says the ending should be obvious,
#2-Dumbledore says Wormtail owes Harry his life,
#3-The prophecy says either must die at the hand of the other, and neither can live (i.e. go on with their life or plans) while the other survives,
#4-To defeat Voldemort all of his horcruxes must be destroyed,
#5-It's suggested that Dumbledore may have felt Harry should be able to face Voldemort in book 1,
#6-Harry has uncommon power, the power of love,
#7-The last book will be "Year 7 at Hogwarts."

#1 tells me that Harry wins.

I can't yet see how #2 will play out. How will he help Harry?

#3 suggests that at some point we should learn why it had to be Harry, and not Dumbledore or somebody else who has the chance to destroy Voldemort. After all, Dumbledore might have been able to find ALL the horcruxes.

#4 is most of the book: Harry and co. get 3 horcruxes; Snape gets the Snake.

#5 suggests to me that Harry may still be immune to the Killing Curse.

I don't know much about #6, which may mean "purity of heart" or a drive to win that others don't have, (even Neville, who's parents were tortured). When learning all about Voldemort's background Dumbledore asked "do you feel pity for Lord Voldemort?" or words to that effect. Perhaps this is significant.

#7 suggests to me that it will be finished one way or another during Harry's last year at Hogwarts, not years later after Auror training. I think the finale will be that Voldemort takes over Hogwarts. This would compel Harry to act ASAP, instead of having him learn the location of LVs hideout and going at his leisure

Here's my ending: There's still Death Eaters at large. After Voldemort is dead, Harry presses LV's finger to Snape's or Wormtail's fading Dark Mark. When they appear, Harry and co. fight them.

There are worse things than death, you know.
Not many.

I think it will go something like that, but not exactly.

There is a popular thread on this subject somewhere...:)

Regardless of what happens Voldemort will definitely have a second demise...whether he dies or not. I am still ambigous towards Harry's death though.

In book seven, Harry will have an awakening at Godric's Hollow. There will be the location that gives him even more inspiration to hunt down Voldemort. And I also think in this book Harry will be the one to set a trap, not the usual Voldemort and his henchmen.

In the beginning of the book, Harry will hear of the deaths of several innocent people....he knew. Perhaps some Hogwarts students, while on vacation in the summer? My guess is Susan Bones. Bill/Fluer's wedding will bring Ginny/Harry back together.

Harry will go back to Hogwarts...but not as a student. Just as a safe headquarters. Of course, this open up the chance that the final confrontation to be there. Why? well you can't apparate or diapparate...unless of course they can escape the grounds in time.

Hagrid will be important in this book....and this is one reason I think Harry will go back to Hogwarts. To visit Hagrid...the question is where will Hagrid be (obviosuly not in the hut). Hagrid will tell Harry how he believes he can do it, he can beat Voldemort.

Hagrid may have something he wants Harry to have that's important. I think it may be dragon's blood....something to do with dragons.

In this book, the big mystery will be the way to destroying lord Voldemort for good, it will be some brilliant idea of course. I really think, this will be the thing that happens.

The chess scene in SS/pS where the king allows Harry to pass and drops his sword, is a symbol for Snape. Snape will let Harry through, and sacrifice or lose out in the process.

Harry learns how to create a horcrux from Slughorn; he takes revenge for Sirius' death by killing Snape and create a horcrux for himself; LV gets Harry with the AK once n thinks he's killed Harry; Ron and Hermy succeed in getting Harry back to human form n Harry gets LV by surprise. (I dunno how they're gonna do that but im sure Hermy is gonna find some way!)

[im a bit out of time but im sure u understand the idea]

Harry learns how to create a horcrux from Slughorn; he takes revenge for Sirius' death by killing Snape and create a horcrux for himself; LV gets Harry with the AK once n thinks he's killed Harry; Ron and Hermy succeed in getting Harry back to human form n Harry gets LV by surprise. (I dunno how they're gonna do that but im sure Hermy is gonna find some way!)



Yeah but that would make Harry no better the Voldemort. I personally think that Harry will die. He's not strong enough to live! He can hardly master 6th year charms!

If Harry was to survive he'd have to... sweet we have 13 medals, go Canada!... anyways, do the fallowing:

1. Get a lot more power, [I]a lot faster.
2. Discover/ Find/ Destroy all the Horcruxes. He still doesn't know what some of them are.
3. He would have to learn to face everything Voldemort has (ext: Giants, Dementors, Frinis(sp?), vampires, werewolves... Voldemort himself...)
4. Harry would have to throw Voldemort of mentally, just so Harry could get a chance to hit him with a spell. Because remember Dumbledore had troubles with that and, he was (is depending on what you believe) way more powerful then Harry.

So you see, that is near impossible...
so pretty much, by by potter...

Well I know that in book 6 we see clearly that HP is not as powerful as he should perhaps be: he can't even face LV.
But book 7 being the last one, I don't really think that either HP or LV survives - the both die. Cause if Harry lives, the story cannot just end up after he kills LV, its not they lived happily ever after; if LV survives n HP dies, all the seven books would have led to a no end.
However we dunno wat JKRs keeping 4 us n its good to explore possible endings or stories.

Well I know that in book 6 we see clearly that HP is not as powerful as he should perhaps be: he can't even face LV.
But book 7 being the last one, I don't really think that either HP or LV survives - the both die. Cause if Harry lives, the story cannot just end up after he kills LV, its not they lived happily ever after; if LV survives n HP dies, all the seven books would have led to a no end.
However we dunno wat JKRs keeping 4 us n its good to explore possible endings or stories.

I don't understand why you say he can't even face Voldemort. In books 1,2,4 and 5 he not only faced him he got the better of him. I think in book 7 we will see Harry destroying the horcruxes, which in a round about way bring about the destruction of Voldemort. Whether or not he actually "kills" Voldemort remains to be seen. I think he will destroy Voldemort, while leaving Tom Riddle intact and powerless.

I think that Harry will kill voldie, he has to, only he can do it. as far as Harry being protected by some magic curse i dont think JKR would have wanted a very complecated ending, i think he will kill him, i dont know how, i mean i cant see Harry standing over him and using AK while laughing like a maniac but i can see him being put in the situation to protect other people. as far as Snape goes i really dont know, i can see Harry hurting him ... well after half blood prince thats hard but i dont see him killing him but there should be something that redeems Snape slightly, maybe involving Draco.

After Voldemort's end, I would like to see Harry, Ron, Hermione, and Ginny discussing the last 7 years while they are planning a double wedding.

Well I know that in book 6 we see clearly that HP is not as powerful as he should perhaps be: he can't even face LV.I think he is, but is full of doubts. He's just not self confident, but did amazing things. He faced Voldemort several times, he is able to do and teach spells his class mates weren't able to, he still has his love - the biggest weapon against Voldemort.

It will be very interesting. either it will be a huge book, or it will be split into about 3 books. there is a ton of stuff to still happen... Horcruxes, a final battle, etc....

I don't understand why you say he can't even face Voldemort. In books 1,2,4 and 5 he not only faced him he got the better of him. I think in book 7 we will see Harry destroying the horcruxes, which in a round about way bring about the destruction of Voldemort. Whether or not he actually "kills" Voldemort remains to be seen. I think he will destroy Voldemort, while leaving Tom Riddle intact and powerless.

Well first Harry faced Quirell in no1 and one of LV's horcrux in no2. In no4 he didn't really face LV cause of the priori incantatem and no5 Dumbledore was the one who faced LV. So there hasn't been a realduel betwn the yet. But from this we can only say that he can't face LV with usual powers; but to be noted that he has love + Dumbledore has rarely been wrong an dit would not be surprising that his death (if he really is or partly is) was according to a plan.
About Tom being left intact powerless - I like the idea but about his shredded soul?

The Order will find Harry comforting a weeping young man. Harry will say, "Lord Voldemort is no more. I would like you to meet my new friend, Tommy." Tommy will raise his face, and we will see that his forehead is marked with a scar identical to Harry's. ("Thomas", you will remember, in Hebrew means 'the twin.')

Nice thought.:p


also, this is not the lord of the rings, so knock it off with that. JK said she didnt even like that series.

Is that right? Where did you read that? I am surprised, no astounded she would have said that.

I think Ron, Hermione, Tonks, Neville and Luna are all going to use the Polyjuice potion and become Harrys. Then they are going to march on Voldemort singing "We Love you Voldy oh yes we do" --- and Voldemort is going to stab out his ear drums with his wand. Then Snape is going to sit down at the campfire Hermione has started and strum a guitar while Hagrid and Grawp do the highland fling. Voldemort will stab out his eyes with his wand. Then ex-Professor Umbridge is going to kiss Voldy and he will swallow his wand. It will travel through his intestinal tract until it reaches his liver whereupon it will cause him internal bleeding. The thestrals will smell the blood and stampede him to death. In the meantime Harry will be laughing so hard he's crying. His tears will fall on Dumbledore and bring him back to life:clap:

I think Ron, Hermione, Tonks, Neville and Luna are all going to use the Polyjuice potion and become Harrys. Then they are going to march on Voldemort singing "We Love you Voldy oh yes we do" --- and Voldemort is going to stab out his ear drums with his wand. Then Snape is going to sit down at the campfire Hermione has started and strum a guitar while Hagrid and Grawp do the highland fling. Voldemort will stab out his eyes with his wand. Then ex-Professor Umbridge is going to kiss Voldy and he will swallow his wand. It will travel through his intestinal tract until it reaches his liver whereupon it will cause him internal bleeding. The thestrals will smell the blood and stampede him to death. In the meantime Harry will be laughing so hard he's crying his tears will fall on Dumbledore and bring him back to life

WHAT ON EARTH HAVE YOU BEEN DRINKING? lol Do they still make moonshine in Missouri? rotfl

WHAT ON EARTH HAVE YOU BEEN DRINKING? lol Do they still make moonshine in Missouri? rotfl

Ai Yai Yai! CelesteLBeing! This here be's Budwieser country! (and all the men must wear baseball caps, t-shirts and dirty jeans)

Ai Yai Yai! CelesteLBeing! This here be's Budwieser country! (and all the men must wear baseball caps, t-shirts and dirty jeans)

And I suppose you all drive pick up's? Which is OK, as long as they're FORDS!

And I suppose you all drive pick up's? Which is OK, as long as they're FORDS!

The vehicles of choice are SUV's, pick-ups and hummers. Unfortunately the Ford plant here is experiencing MAJOR lay-offs (my sister's entire family except for herself worked there). Oh yes, our economy is suffering big time. But, I am aware this is not the place to air my utter disgust with the current administration. On the other hand I could do some nifty comparisons of how evil functions in the muggle world as opposed to the wizardly world and how all this destruction might be ended, or at least, the perpetrators brought to justice. I wonder if I could work out a metaphor comparing George Bush to Tom Riddle? No, no, the intellegence just isn't there. I KNOW instead of Georgie Boy splitting his soul he has split his BRAIN! (that would explain it!) LOL:cool:

I KNOW instead of Georgie Boy splitting his soul he has split his BRAIN! (that would explain it!) LOL

I believe he would have to have a brain before he could split it! lol

Maybe Voldemort and Harry could have their duel at the ford plant. The plant managers offices are almost destroyed and as Bush comes to view the destruction Voldemort fires Avada Kadavra and it hits Bush.

I believe he would have to have a brain before he could split it! lol

Maybe Voldemort and Harry could have their duel at the ford plant. The plant managers offices are almost destroyed and as Bush comes to view the destruction Voldemort fires Avada Kadavra and it hits Bush.

Except then we would have a mummified Cheyney as Pres. talk about horror!

Except then we would have a mummified Cheyney as Pres. talk about horror!

OK now I'm going to have nightmares!

o.k I have info. about the 7 book that will make some of us fan people cry. In an interview JKR said she wasn't going to kill off Harry or Ron or Hermione. She wants to kill off Ginny B/C Ginny love s Harry and is going to want to risk her life to save Hary in his next attempt to kill LV.It is rumored that Luna will come up to harry and be sn imposter, but this is too far fetched.Some say Ron and Hermione will get married. Those are a few theories that I have found through research.

o.k I have info. about the 7 book that will make some of us fan people cry. In an interview JKR said she wasn't going to kill off Harry or Ron or Hermione. She wants to kill off Ginny B/C Ginny love s Harry and is going to want to risk her life to save Hary in his next attempt to kill LV
Where exactly did you hear this? Last I heard, she was still "questioning" whether harry would survive, and I seriously doubt she would reveal something like that, its too major a spoiler. I could be wrong, but I would just like to see your source myself.

Where exactly did you hear this? Last I heard, she was still "questioning" whether harry would survive, and I seriously doubt she would reveal something like that, its too major a spoiler. I could be wrong, but I would just like to see your source myself.



I totally agree. That is a very BIG rumor to start and not have sufficent resources to back it up. When was this intervie?:huh:

Yeah there are many rumors about the Harry Potter ending all of them sounds interesting but none of them sounds like a good idea!

I can guarantee that, that "rumor" is false. There is no way Jo would reveal that kind of information, no way, no how. The only thing I've heard regarding Ginny and the final book is that she would play a bigger role and showcase her magical abilities more and even that I'm not 100% on, as I heard it 3rd hand.

Thanks emmy for being honest. We should never inetentionally post false rumors just to start trouble.

The series (first chapter) started with Harry being an infant (prologue), then we have books 1-7 which represend seven years of Harry's life, age 11-17.
Jo said the last chapter tells us what happens to those who survive, what happens to them after they leave school (somebody becoming a teacher btw).
So I would think, with the prologue refering to Harry as infant, that the epilogue refers to Harry as an old man. Not death (as the story didn't start with Harry's birth either).
Jo also mentioned somewhere that wizards have a higher life expectancy as muggles but Harry hasn't found that one out yet. He would find out if he'd get about 150 years old, wouldn't he?

Besides, Trelawney jokingly said Harry would live up to a ripe age and have 12 children.

Who else would be the next "wise old wizard" (with Dumbledore gone?).
Maybe he'll tell his grandkids how he'd gotten that scar.
And in HBP Dumbledore said that Harry was still too young to understand how unusal Harry was. I doubt Harry will understand that in just a year. He will have to grow old to understand that.

Oh man, I don't even want to think about the end of the series right now, it makes me want to cry :(.....

Anyway, about the rumor, it doesn't sound very credible to me. If it were true, which I highly doubt by the way, it would just about be the worst ending ever.

An ideal ending for me would be for Harry to destroy Voldemort and for Harry and Ginny to get married and Ron and Hermione to get married. Hopefully all the Weasleys will make it out alive, but right now I think that may be too much to hope for. I doubt that Ron or Hermione will die, but who knows, J.K. might do something like that to add a twist.

I don't think Harry will die at the end, but it's just a feeling (or wishful thinking!) If Harry gets killed off millions of readers worldwide will be so disappointed. I know J.K. has said that she doesn't care what other people think, as long as she likes the book, but still I don't think she would want to lose all of her fans (Hoping!!)

I bet it will be something like Harry is in a dire situation with no possible help from his friends, and he is alone with Voldemort and Wormtail and some other death eaters...then Voldemort tries to cast AV, and just in the last second, Wormtail takes the blast. Now harry has love protection again, but Voldemort is so outraged and mad at wormtail that he forgets, casts another AV and this time is gone for good.

I reckon that harry can't die because jk rowling seems to write it in Harrys thoughts, for we read what he is thinking, but not what any others are thinking. Its like its in Harrys point of view, in 1st person, yet its not quite. Therefore, if Harry dies, the whole book would be a big blank. Also, i don't think jk Rowling could bring herself to write his final moments, in his own view, cause it would be something as awful as

'Harry saw the curse speeding towards his friends, and knew what must be done. It was like Dumbledore had said, long ago, that death was not the worst thing, and that Love conquers all. WIth one giant leap, he leapt into the path of the curse. He felt incredible pain, and saw a green light, and then it was all blank, as he sped towards the place where his mother and father and Sirius and Dumbledore where waiting for him"

As you see, that is unbearable, and no writer could write that. So i think Harry will narrowly escape, and everything will be good.

I just hope it is a happy ending, and Harry and Ginny have twelve kids, and he lives to be 150.

Lose all of her fans? That would be the biggest gag on earth. (Not to mention, the most lucrative of all time.) Usually, people have to spend money on a gag. If JK kills Harry at the end of the series, it would be somewhat humorous (sadistically speaking). To have millions upon millions of people buying ALL of the books, getting to really like Harry, and then watch him die after spending all that money. I think people would be more angry at the outcome than disappointed. After the anger went away, I think people might get depressed though. How many expect the hero of the story to die?

I personally feel that to kill of Harry would be anti-climatic. The way some people see it going down is Harry playing the role of tragic hero. (kill himself to kill Voldemort) I disagree. After seeing Harry escape/survive Voldemort so many times, it would be a big let down, for me anyway, if he died in the end. I have to see him survive the final go around or there may be a lot of hate mail just from me. I'll send a letter a week. hahaha

But, I think Harry will survive. It's just not the way to end a fantasy book. Too many kids would be heartbroken. JK can't let that happen, she's given hope to many readers, that good things do happen to people who deserve it.

The fact that the end of the series is prominent. I am truly sad about his! All of my co workers feel the same, but some are speculating a spin off series of some sort. It would be nice to see Harry survive to move on to other adventures, but what would be left after defeating the darkest wizard of all time.

I have two endings,

1. Harry, Ron, and Hermione go off and destroy the rest of the horcruxes. The other characters are thrust get into mischief at school and try to help the war effort as best they can, whether it be with spying on students or other ****.. Hogwarts remains standing, but Voldemort attacks it and lays siege to it. When the final battle comes, Harry and the forces of good attack Voldemort's army. The battle is a stalemate until the students able to fight attack Voldemort's forces. They all join up and fight until harry confronts Voldemort. They duel very fiercely (I want a REAL duel between them, not that crappy expelliarmis stuff). Now, I would have Harry either A. Outright kill Voldemort with his friends help or B. Harry gets disarmed and is at Voldemort's mercy, but all of his friends appear and shield him from Voldemort. He fires a spell, it rebounds and BOOM, dead snake man.

2. Voldemort captures Hogwarts, kills Harry, and owns the world, both muggl and magical.

While I realize that many threads have been created on this topic, I thought one where potential spoilers could be uttered be erected. So, having learned insight on Horcruxes, the Ginny/Harry *arguable* (tho I think not) ship, the *arguable* Ron/Hermione ship, R.A.B., etc, how do you think it will end?

My own little theory, just how I think the series would be best summed up, goes as follows.

Harry (and R.A.B./DA/Aurors/whoever) destroys all other 4 horcruxes (assuming locket WAS destroyed.) Somewhere, Ginny, Ron, Hermy, Harry, Mad-eye, whoever, are together, surrounded by death eaters. Everyone has been stunned, 'cept Harry, before LV starts really messing with him. Crucius curses everywhere, kicking, mutilating, sectosempra the crew, while Harry watches. Then, LV decides to start killing off the crew, starting, (maybe finishing) with Ginny, before inevitably turning to Harry. 'Cept, before the AK is aimed at Ginny (or Ron, or Luna, or Hermy, why not even Grawp) Harry screams 'Noooooooooooooooooo' or something valiant like that, jumping in from of the AK. He's killed, but woopsie daisy, LV didn't know that Harry was actually a horcrux, or maybe didn't know they killed Nagina before LV came. So, Harrys dead, could have not died, but died for everyone else's sake. LV is for sure now certain that he is unstoppable; last line of defense for the rest of the world was the now dead Harry. So, he turns the AK to one of the others, shoots it off, and wouldn't you know, the same love magic that Dumbledore has ALWAYS preached, and his mother practiced, send that curse right back at LV. He's dead, so's Harry, he has a funeral, the world comes to bid him farewell, Muggles are informed, Vernon and Petunia and Dudders are there, Ginny and co. realize he sacrificed himself for them, it being the only way to kill Voldemort (but only doing it for love.)

Lets here how you have it coming out. Please use this thread instead of dropping spoilers into other "What Next" threads.

No offense, but that wasn't the most eloquent paragraph I've ever read. I personally think it's a bit cliche, Harry dieing for love :cough:The bible:cough: I don't think JKR will kill everyone either.

ok, i was listening to episode 31 i believe of mugglecast when they did one of the contest winners which was third and forth garders. one of them said that they thought that Ginny would die which made me think how that would happen. which leads to my theory of the ending of the Harry Potter series.

Ok, Going way back to when Harry was a baby and Voldemort had broken in to the house and so on and so forth he killed James Potter and then killed Lilly Potter, but when he killed Lilly her love is what protected Harry, therefore killing Voldemort when he tried to kill Harry. So Lilly trying to stop Voldemort for killing Harry and sacraficing her life is what protected harry.

So, going into the sixth book, Harry and Ginny got into a relationship and started getting really attached to eachother. and the ending when they are at dumbledore's funeral where everybody is paying respects and whatnot Harry tells Ginny that they must stop seeing eachother because he doesnt want her to get hurt while he goes ahead and tracks the horocruxes to kill Voldemort for good and for final. She gets really stuborn and was saying that she doesnt care about that and she wants to stay with him no matter what, strong love, eh. so i bring you to the theory part.

I believe that it will come down to the very end of the seventh book when all of the Horocruxes have been destroyed and it is Harry and Voldemort facing each other for the final time alone. Voldemort so i will believe will gain advantage on Harry and Harry will start to lose and be unarmed and on the ground, now niether of them would have known but Ginny will be witnessing all of this, so now when Voldemort goes to kill Harry, Ginny will interupt this causing some distraction time for Harry. Now Voldemort will be saying whatever he says to ginny while Harry is gaining his ground back. As we know with Cedric Diggory in the graveyard of Goblet of Fire, Voldemort doesnt like anybody around him unless they have to be there, so Voldemort will go to kill Ginny but Harry in his kind and love for Ginny heart will dive in front of Ginny right as Voldemort says the killing curse at Ginny therefor killing Harry. Ok so Harry has just sacraficed himself out of love for Ginny to live. So now its Ginny and Voldemort alone, and Ginny definatly cant defent herself against Voldemort so he laughs at the death of Harry and goes to kill her again, but his mistake has just been made for the second time. Harrys love will fire back and kill Voldemort, so Voldemort and Harry will die.

So all in all, how Harrys mother died in spite of her trying to save harry will jump into play again as Harry will do for Ginny, therefore saying that added into this, Harry AND Voldemort will die.

Tell me what you think!

This is probable, the basics of it anyway, not necessarily the execution. I'd like to think Ginny dies for Harry, just because it's unexepected though.

Yeah, it could go the other way around with Ginny and Harry i suppose. i mean, why not?

hmmm...im not sure. at the end of HBP harry broke it off with ginny because he didnt want her to get hurt. so why would he have her around?...or even have her know where he was?

This is probable, the basics of it anyway, not necessarily the execution. I'd like to think Ginny dies for Harry, just because it's unexepected though.

it could go that way too, but both arent probable to me.

He wouldnt have her around, i put in there that she would have been overviewing and who knows, she could have a way of finding out where he was.

I think he may have broken it off to save her. Though they still love each other.

He wouldnt have her around, i put in there that she would have been overviewing and who knows, she could have a way of finding out where he was.

how would she find out though? just curious. i just think it unlikely.

oh i know, im not going to hate you for not thinking its going to happen like this, lol. and idk how she would find out, i cant provide all of the routes but im sure that JK could find a way, shes pretty good at stuff like that.

That's actually not a bad idea, you know - I've been thinking of ways in which Harry's love and sacrifice could defeat Voldemort, but for some reason this one never occured to me. Harry provides Ginny with the same protection Lily provided him with, and Voldemort is killed by, once again, underestimating it.

On the issue of who dies and who doesn't, I'd be amazed if Ginny died and Harry didn't. I can easily see Harry dying and Ginny surviving, I can see both of them dying, and I can see both of them surviving, but I can't imagine Ginny being the only one to die. I think she symbolises too much in Harry's life to be killed in that way - by the end of HBP, she effectively symbolises the life Harry is fighting for, the life he wants to lead without Voldemort. To have her die, and then Harry survive, would not make much sense for that reason, and it would be terribly cruel on Harry even for JKR! It's not as if he needs any more motivation to go and kill Voldemort, since he's already made that decision at the end of HBP.

hmmm...im not sure. at the end of HBP harry broke it off with ginny because he didnt want her to get hurt. so why would he have her around?...or even have her know where he was?


Lots of reasons, but mainly:

- The "parted lovers" has been a common motif in mythology and storytelling for thousands of years, and usually involves a reunion
- "love" is the thing which will defeat Voldemort, and Dumbledore always talked of the "mistake" of isolating yourself from your loved ones, even to keep them safe (a large part of OotP was about that very mistake)
- JKR has built up this romance for 6 books, admitting she foreshadowed it in Book I. The big set-up was in HBP - there will be a pay-off in HBP Part 2, Book VII.

This is a story - just because it was in one place at the end of HBP doesn't mean it won't change. There is plenty of room for twists and turns yet.

Recently, many people having been saying they think Ginny is going to die (for Harry). I don't really like to believe that. Maybe it's because I'm not very fond of Ginny, or maybe it's because I like to believe that someone else is going to die.

Yeah, but thats one part we really cannot tell in any way yet is who dies for who.

I don't know about Ginny, but I think Hermione is going to die. It was something JKR said in an interview a while ago...she said that the only people you could trust straightaway with information being accurate was Dumbledore and Hermione. We know that Dumbledore dies, so it just got me thinking. I don't know. Honestly I've stopped predicting who's going to live or die. I learned my lesson when I was halfway through HBP and trying to guess who was going to die and said, "I don't think JKR would kill Ron, Hermione, Harry, or Hagrid. Or Dumbledore." and then boom - Dumbledore's dead. So gahh who knows.

I still think that it will work the way i stated

What you have to remember is that all the three main deaths so far have been to serve the plot. Cedric died to emphasise Voldemort's return to power, and Sirius and Dumbledore both died because JKR needed to get Harry's mentors out of the way before the Horcrux hunt - having them there would have made it too easy. JKR hasn't killed people off gratuitously - they died because they needed to die, for the story. So, whichever main characters die in Book VII, it will probably also be to serve the plot. The main ones which I think come into that category are Harry, Snape and Wormtail - Ron, Hermione and Ginny all depend on what happens in the final battle. Still, JKR could just decide to turn it into a bloodbath - it is a war, after all.

i would say that killing Voldemort is a pretty big part of the plot...

I think Snape is a likely candidate for a death scene. Whichever way you look at it, he's in deep doo-doo from both sides!

I wonder who on the good side is going to die in Book 7.

well i just said who i think will die!

You might be interested in posting your ideas on:

Book Seven: Who Will Live and Who Will Die? v.2 (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=80966)
Will Harry die in Book Seven? v.4 (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=82826)
Will Harry Kill Voldemort in the End? If so, how will he do it? v.2 (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=82824)

It is a very good idea. :)

Obviously, the book will not end happily ever after. That in not JKR. We can assume we will lose loved ones, face uncertainty, and see a realistic closing to this series.

wow. wow. wow. wow. Very interesting I don't think Ginny will go and defeat Voldemort and I think she knows that they are not together anymore and she accepts it.

geez ginny lovers :lol:

nobody will ever know for sure(untill book 7 comes out that is) who will live and who will die. i expect that there will be dying on both sides and its not going to be a happy ending-not JKRs style. if you ask me, voldy will most definetly die. its been a major part
of the series. not saying harry wont die though.

no....

Writers usually say they don't know how to end a book about adventures of young characters. I bet that won't be a problem for JKR.

Voldemort WILL die (don't ask me who'll kill him or how):agree:

Harry will die (if Sirius remains dead that would be the right ending) if he doesn't die everyone would just be asking questions like 'What happened next??????' , which can not be good... :sad:

Snape... I wonder if he'll menage to just walk away after everything he did... :huh:

Remus will probably live... Someone must tell what happened after everyone else is gone... :sigh:

Can't make up my mind about Weasleys though...:shrug:

So, it will be a 'TRUE HAPPY ENDING'........:upset:

Note: I do not wish them all to die, but since everyone I liked until now did...:no: :sad:

Okay, here it goes: Rowling worded the prophecy in a particular way so as there would be no faults. It is perfect and it can therefore be cracked.

We figured it means one of three things:
1. Harry and Voldemort (obvious)
2. Harry and Voldemort and Snape (what I'm going to talk about)
3. Neville and Voldemort (theory banished from existence by Rowling)

Okay, the obvious thing would be Voldemort and Harry because the wording is so simple for it.

The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches. . . .
Born to those who have thrice defied him,
born as the seventh month dies . . .
and the Dark Lord will mark him as his equal,
but he will have power that the Dark Lord knows not . . .
and either must die at the hand of the other
for neither can live while the other survives. . . .
The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord will be born as the seventh month dies.

What if it speaks of Snape being the one to vanquish the Dark Lord? Then segues into Harry having the power the Dark Lord knows not, that being his ability to love and therefore forgive Snape, therein giving Snape the power to destroy LV? If you notice the first line, it has an elipses at the end which means there is an ommitance or pause between the two sentences, making them completely different thoughts.

As we know, while Trelawney was going into her prophecy, Snape was skulking near the room in the Hog's Head -- what if her opening line (The one with the power to vanquish the Dark Lord approaches. . . .) was to announce that Snape was approaching the room? Then she launches into the prophecy regarding Harry being born and the fact that he has a special power. The punctuation as well as the capitalization of "Born" connotes such a thing.

What if the wording "either must die at the hand of the other" connotes either meaning Harry and Voldemort, while other means Snape? So in plain wording, Harry or Voldemort must die at the hand of Snape, for neither Harry nor Voldemort may live while Snape survives.

There is the question of logic involved here. How can Voldemort and Harry and Snape all be alive now? But then again, as Dumbledore pointed out, prophecies can be mussed with and don't always come out perfectly; you can cheat them, as was obviously done. Keep in mind that if Voldemort hadn't created his Horcruxes, Snape would have indirectly killed Voldemort because of not telling him the whole prophecy. Voldemort would have died after the curse rebounded. But because he cheated death, it blew the prophecy away and therefore makes it somewhat benign. Except Voldemort won't let it stay benign. He chooses to keep it alive by wanting Harry dead. And in the end, it looks as though it will be Snape's involvement yet again that brings about Harry's or LV's death.

This theory above is all rather "put together", but the one below is I think my best yet. This one below is better than predicting Dumbledore's death and Snape being the HBP.

I was going over those WOMBAT questions on HP Lexicon, which by the way, I Googled the wombat and it is rather cute. Anyhoo, I came across one thing which may prove interesting: the question about traveling with a magical animal and which would be best. Well, we all know Harry will be seeing some sights in the last book. And we wonder who will be accompanying him? What if those animals listed as possible answers are a hint as to who will be going with him, or at most, aiding Harry on the journey?

*Murtlap = Harry -- The animal has a growth on its back which, when pickled, can promote "resistance to curses". We all know Harry is a little resistant to curses, eg. Avada Kedavra, Imperius, possession.

*Crup = Ron -- The animal resembles a Jack Russell Terrier, of which is also Ron's Patronus.

*Kneazle = Hermione -- Crookshanks the cat is half-kneazle, and Hermione owns Crookshanks. Hermione was once turned into a cat briefly, and she is very intelligent just like the kneazle.

*Jarvey = Kreacher -- This animal is notable for its ability to talk, but most of its comments are short, rude comments. Kreacher is known for speaking with short, rude comments.

*Niffler = Dung (Mundungus) Fletcher -- The niffler has a pension for going after shiny objects; in other words, a bit of a thief or a greedy little animal. Dung is known for his pension for stolen, shiny objects, getting "hot tips" in stolen merchandise and such.

*Runespoor = Draco -- This animal is known for having three heads and, because of its appearance, is known for intimidation. Its heads each have a job, one being a planner, the middle the dreamer, and the last is the critic. Often, the runespoor becomes torn with which direction to go and will have to "fight with itself" about what to do or where to go. As we know, Draco is a very torn character.

*Augurey = Snape -- A thin and mournful bird resembling a vulture, greenish-black, its cry once thought to be an omen (now known to be a sign of rain). It's sort of like the dank, gloomy version of the phoenix. Dumbledore being the phoenix, Snape being his gloomy counterpart.

Obviously Harry, Ron, and Hermione are expected characters to be searching for the Horcruxes. However, I think it is Kreacher who may offer some help with finding the real Horcrux locket. Also, Dung may have taken the locket too when he stole from Harry/Sirius. Why else would Rowling have included such a plotline? Or, perhaps it was to keep Dung in our minds and to bring up the fact that he deals in the blackmarket, so perhaps he has connections and can find that Hufflepuff cup. Snape is an obvious choice because he seems most likely the one who will become an asset, should he actually be good, which I think he is. I still think he will be the one to kill Nagini -- who else can get close enough to her to do the deed? And Draco, well, it just fits to have him tag along. He may have something else of LV's at his manor, since Voldemort seemed to trust Lucius so much. And I can't imagine Rowling would have Draco take a backseat ride in the last book (or a trunk ride, for that matter). After his involvement in HBP, he is a front seat passenger now. So he may offer a little help.

The way I see it, there will be a final confrontation between Harry and LV. Depending on how Rowling wants the book to go, she may have Snape step away from LV early so he can help Harry, or she'll have him step away from the whole book and only appear at the end, only to surprise LV that his only intentions are to kill him and not Harry. But, I can't help but picture LV expecting this and basically turning Snape to mush by inflicting the Cruciatus Curse on him and tormenting him with bad memories of his childhood and the horrors that he has helped along. Maybe project visions into his head of Lily's death or something.

I can't help but know that Snape will do a tragic hero thing and be the one to do LV in. Perhaps he'll be tossed aside and made to watch as LV goes to kill Harry, only for Snape to do something in the last second to save Harry, more than likely dying in the process. It just makes sense. I can't believe Dumbledore doesn't want Draco killing but he more than welcomes Harry killing LV. I know it's for a good cause, but why can't someone else do it when the time comes? Maybe that is the ultimate plan? Who knows. This whole last paragraph here is rambling so fogive me.

JK has said the reason Avada Kedavra rebounded when Lily got in the way was because she was given a choice... So if Harry put himself in the way without 'Get out of the way, or I'll kill you' , nothing would happen! Other than Harry dying... followed closely by Ginny

I think that Harry is a horcrux (don't kill me!) and so he has to be killed, obviously. There will be the big war and everything, then Harry and Voldemort will have some sort of 'showdown' type thing :lol: and Harry and Voldemort will both throw curses, and finally the killing spell at the same time (maybe) or something will happen where they will both die. I also think that Ron will die because of this interview with JK Rowling which hinted at it.

hmmmm, Interesting indeed.

But I just can't see Harry surviving. Its ever so cliche for Harry to survive and live happy ever after. It would also be a huge let down and something that Joe wouldn't do.
I mean, im as stumpted as most people as to what is actually going to happen, I think Harry will die, and will be the only one out of the gang (Ron, Hermione, Nev, Ginny etc) as this would truely end it. No sequals, or what happened nexts. It would also be a fitting end, Harry would be forever remembered as a Hero and he would also be with his loved ones.
So isn't really that a happy ending?

I agree that JKR does tend to have cliff hangers at the end of her books, but she is also following a lot of traditional ideas such as love being the greatest magic.I do not believe that she would have evil conquering good which is what it would be if Voldermort kills Harry. Nor do I want to believe that in her final book she would kill Harry's future - Ginny. I could see that happening if there were going to be more books to follow, but it just leaves Harry hanging with no conclusion if Ginny is killed.( I hope- I'm a sucker for happy endings.)

Just to add a bit of food for thought regarding the prophecy for Voldemort and Harry. What if Draco is the one to help Harry defeat Voldemort and Snape. I don't know Draco's date of birth, but I know he is younger or close to Harry's Birthday as he was in Potions class with Harry when most of the others in the class were setting their apparations test. (Please don't get upset, my brain is not as young as the rest of you so it doesn't soak up all the information, my excuse anyway).

Think about it, because I don't think that Draco it completely bad, (Don't get me wrong folks, I AM NOT A DRACO FAN either in the movies or books). But at the end of the day in Half Blooded Prince, he lowered his wand, right before the Death Eaters arrived in the Northern Tower and like Dumbledore said, he seemed to not really want Dumbledore dead with his other attempts (something along these lines).

Right throughout the book he was avoiding Snape as he didn't trust him, he thinks that Snape will take all the credit for all Dracos hard work. Maybe after this, where Snape has killed Dumbledore, therefore Draco fails to complete his mission and at the same time Snape gets the credit for Draco's work, he will actually despise Snape a whole lot more than he does Harry and in turn help Harry along. I like someone's idea on one of the threads saying that Snape will be the next Dark Lord.

We know from book 6 that Draco isn't all talk. We know that when he puts his mind to the task, he is just as cunning as Snape.

I know this is far fetched, but it's an idea. I think that Malfoy will actually be just as important as Snape in regard to LV's showdown with Harry.

I've given the end of the story a lot of thought... so much so that I took a stab at writing it...The first two parts are up and I welcome your thoughts on how plausible it seems:
http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=88702

Like most posters. Harry will find and destroy all of LVs horcruxes.

Will defeat Voldemort, but I very much doubt the Voldemort will die.

I like the idea of the dementors getting him, but I think I am more inclined to go with the door that is always locked in DoM. Afterall, Dumbledore said that it contained the power of Love (or something to this effect) and this is the power that the Dark Lord knows not, right.

Harry is somehow scarred or effected by this duel for life, but lives none the less. I actually think that Ginny will die for Harry (but a big maybe). If so, I'm hoping that Harry or the trio will be able to use the time turners to save her.

Harry will then become the first DADA teacher to last longer than 1 year, Ginny will become the teacher for transfiguration (I like the idea that I saw on another thread that we will become an animagus and Harry will eventually become Headmaster of Hogwarts.

Maybe JKR meant that Harry will die of natural causes, many many years after defeating Voldemort? That way the series would have a definitive ending.

It would be cool if, after the 7th Book, JKR would commission writers from around the world to continue the Harry Potter universe, but with their own characters/locations/etc. Voldemort may be the most dangerous wizard ever, but surely there are different threats in different places at different times.

I would love to read "A history of Magic" and/or "Hogwarts: A History"

I started a thread which was closed. (Very well, I admire tidiness.) It was suggested that I come here.

The question that I asked in my post was:

If you could find out how Harry finally vanquishes Voldemort before the book comes out, would you?

If you could find out how Harry finally vanquishes Voldemort before the book comes out, would you?:agree: Yes. I love spoilers! I'm dying to know what's going to happen. Of course, I wouldn't do anything illegal to find out! :p

I think Harry will stay in Privet Drive till his b-day. Then he will leave and start looking for the horcruxes. Hermione and Ron will follow him, he’ll try to persuade them for not going but they would

Godric’s Hollow… blah blah, Ginmauld Place…. Blah blah ……. He will find Snape, they will have a huge fight, Snape will make him listen his part of the story and will tell him the why Dumbledore trusted him.

Snpae will teach him stuff. Harry will need to go back to Howgarts. Everybody will stare at them (trio, OMG I really want thins to happen imagine, they walking everybody satring and they just walk with theur ropes flying!!!!!!!)

They visit Hargid, blah blah Ginny, Luna, Neville, try to follow them , they wont succeed.

Neville somehow finds out about the prophesy ……………. I don’t know, I don’t know…….

In all this Harry destroys all horcruxes, final match, Voldemort dies, but Harry dies too. And it would end like

“and there rested the boy who lived, with lighting scar”

Hell no!, I still want to kill the guy that tipped me off that someone was going to die so the whole thrill of the end was killed before I even got there.

I would much rather read the Book 7 at a gentle pace, drinking all that brilliant content that I know JKR will have left for us.

And cry where you are supposed to cry, not before, because you finally click who is going to be killed.

I don't mind little tidbits like Ginny marrying Harry and things like that, but major plot points are out of the question. I am just determined to make the last book special.

Sorry, if I'm a little touchy on this subject. :)

Rastaban--perish the thought! No, I mean, hypothetically, if there was a site you could go to written by JKR herself that basically outlined the ending--would read it? Or would you save it to savor with the rest of the book?

Well, you already answered.

(Thanks, by the way. :) )

As I said before even if I love the ends, what make them sooo important is how they got there. I love the story but what i love the most is the world and how everyhting goes together at the end!!

As I said before even if I love the ends, what make them sooo important is how they got there. I love the story but what i love the most is the world and how everyhting goes together at the end!!

So many would-be writers could learn from that!

A friend told me that Sirus was going to die in the OoP before I read it and when I read it, the only thing I could think was Sirus dying. I can’t picture myself knowing for sure the end of the book before you read it.

Even if you believe strongly in something, there is always the smallest hope that the end will be different

Knowing JKR the end will be something like the bad guy really was Mdme Promfy, and when we’ll re-read the book, we’ll be like ofcurse there are soooooo many clued that support that ending

For the people that ruin the book, they are just idiots. They truely cannot udnerstand or appreciate the creativity and the time put into writing a book. I dunno about the rest ofyou all, but i Have tried writing, and it sucks. Therefore, I will never look ahead, nor let anyone tell me what happens when the books come out.

Well, you already answered.

(Thanks, by the way. :) )Haha, and you asked, so I said! For me, knowing the ending in no way diminishes the quality of a book. I still read it, and I usually forget the ending anyway, and am very much as suprised as I might have been in the first place. But I'm a very anxious person, perhaps unhealthily so; therefore, knowing the ending ahead of time really takes a load off my mind.

By the way, I'm a writer.

I just don’t know how perople can forget the endings in any book not just HP. I may forget some little details, I am not too proud about it, but the main plot, I just can’t.

I wish I could erase everything I know about Harry Potter so I can read it again and have the same emotion.

No i dont want to find out how Harry finally vanquishes Voldemort before the book comes out. That would take all theh fun out of guessing and re reading the books for clues, not to mention out of the first read of book 7.

No, I wouldn't want to know. Before the sixth book came out I didn't go onto Mugglenet of The Leaky Cauldron for two weeks-bit of a desprate measure, I guess, but I did have a pretty likely chance of hearing someone's theroy at Mugglenet's huge book party which I went too. I wouldn't like to know as I said, it would have ruined the whole series for me.

Harry will during his search for horcruxes, run into Snape... there will be a bit of a duel. while Snape attempts to explain what happened with him and D.D., reminiscent of PoA and the Shreaking Shack. I think this conversation will force Harry to question where Snapes loyalties truly lie. I think Harry will start to believe that Snape was acting on D.D.'s orders.

Of course Snape will sneer at Harry the whole time... because honestly, would it be Snape if he didnt?

The following is a spoiler taken from Book 7, Harry Potter and the Icelandic Fortune Teller. JK Rowling has not authorised this material to be made public, but by loop-hole 4-3 subtext M found in English unCommon Law, Rastaban43 is in no way responsible for the loss of your future Harry Potter pleasure if you should choose to continue reading!

Harry burst into the swamp and left the port key safe behind a rock. He strolled casually to the spot where Voldemort was mud-bathing and said confidently, 'Haha, I've destroyed all of the other horcruxes!'

Puzzled, the Dark Lord replied, 'But my snake is still slithering about my unshod feet!' All of the sudden Fawkes entered the swamp in a gulf of flame and phoenix-song. 'Oh, that music is dreadful, will someone please turn it off before I become vapour again?'

'No vapour for you this time, Voldiepants!' Harry cried as Fawkes swept down and ate the Snake in one gulp.

'No, my precious pet! You'll pay for this, Potter!'

'You'll have to catch me first,' was Harry's retort before he stuck his tongue out.

'No, I mean you'll have to pay me out of your Gringotts account. That snake cost me a fortune!'

Finally undertanding why the Malfoys were so central to Voldemort's plans, Harry responded, 'You'll have to pry the key out of my cold, dead fingers!'

'I don't suppose you'll pass me my wand so we can make it a fair fight? I laid it in that elm tree over there.' Voldemort pointed to an elm tree across the swamp.

'Why did you leave it over there? And I thought you were Head Boy once in your lifetime.' Harry lifted his own wand and shouted, 'Accio stick!' From across the swamp flew Voldemort's wand and landed in Harry's opened hand.

'Yes, thank you. I'll take that now, so you can get your just deserts!'

'You won't be needing this anymore,' said Harry as he snapped the twig in half. 'But desert sounds nice. What've you got?

'Macnair!' Voldemort shouted to the trees. 'Bring Mr Fortescue! Our guest is feeling peckish.' He turned back to Harry and finished, 'I hope you like ice-cream. Mr Fortescue makes the best Italian gelato!'

'What flavours are there, like?'

'Well, let's see ... in this remote hideaway, he only makes a few: pistacchio, black cherry, pickled toad and mango.'

'You've got a mango tree? Not that I like mangos or anything.'

'Oh, yes, and I almost forgot coconut. My word, I don't know where my mind is today!'

'How's the pickled toad?'

'Oh it's rather nice. The colour isn't very appealing but it leaves a gorgeous aftertaste. I actually think I'll have that myself.'

'The only thing you'll be having is a knuckle sandwich!' Harry said, balling up his fists.

'If you kill me, you can't have any ice-cream,' Voldemort reminded him.

'It's not about the ice-cream anymore! It's about you lying face down in the mud!' Harry began laughing maniacally as he pointed his wand at Voldemort's feet and cried, 'Engorgio!'

...According to Rule 4 (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=22999), Chamber of Secrets Forums will not allow this next section to be shown. Apparantly JK Rowling has not yet bothered editing this part, and the misplaced modifiers, split infinitives and dangling participles are almost bad enough to change hair colour. Please also see the Zero Tolerance Policy (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=22998) for more information regarding this uncharacteristic turn of events...

Harry licked the ice-cream that had splattered onto his upper lip. 'I hate mango!' Harry shouted at the limp body beside him. 'You're lucky you're not alive to face my wrath now!' He started walking out of the swamp with Fawkes on his shoulder. 'Well, I'm glad this is all over with.'

'Quite so,' agreed Fawkes in a boy's voice.

'Fawkes, I didn't know you could talk!'

'I can't. But as a side-effect of You-Know-Who-'

'Oh, don't be so superstitious,' Harry interjected.

'Oh, OK. As a side-effect of Voldemort's last minute attempt at your life you will only be able to communicate with animals for the rest of your natural life. Human speech will now be as unintelligible to you as what you say will be to them.'

'Are you sure?'

'Very sure. You see, when Dumbledore died, he left me all of his intelligence, and now I'm the cleverest person in the world.'

'You know, you're not exactly a person.'

'Oh, I guess you're right, but you know what I mean.'

'Well, that's OK. I was kind of getting tired of Ginny's constant rabbiting. Ever since we started going out, she won't button it for two minutes!' Having reached the port key at the other side of the swamp, Harry gave one last look at the burning swamp before touching it and disappearing from that place forever.
Please do not send me owls asking for the remainder of the text. I will not be able to give it to you.

Rastaban, did you write that? It's funny....

BTW, I love spoilers, I am notorious for ruining endings....I almost always look ahead to see what's gonna happen.

Here is a strange idea I came up with:


Because of the enormous effort it will take to destroy Voldemort's very existence it will almost kill Harry, if not kill him.

How? There will be two fiery flames that will erupt from Harry/Voldemort eyes when they meet in the final and only confrontation they have in book seven. They are not using wands because they are ineffective as they are of the same core/make. They use the magic of their blood, the heart, the brain, the eyes and physical touch like in PS/SS fight.

(of course the fight will have other events before this). Harry will be under the effects of the Draught of Living Death, to stopper his death, once he passes through the fiery black flames, that are supposed to send you to death. I have not figured out yet a good way for Harry to obtain the Potion, but I assume through Snape, but Harry will not know Snape wanted him to take it.

Voldemort will be greatly weakened when Harry possesses him for an extended period of time and controls him. The eyes of Harry being green and Voldemort's red, are obviosuly crucial to this, and how Harry has mother's eyes.

But These flames will be twins because they are the same at the essence and represent two different souls, but souls none-the-less. One is black and tarnished (Voldemort). The other is golden and pure (Harry's made so by alchemical symbolism, as his spirit will embody the sorcerer's stone).

This reflects somewhat well on PS/SS when Harry passes through the black fire to get to Quirrel and Hermione goes back through the purple. Only this time Harry will go forward to finally see his heart's desire to be with his parents/relatives. He will also learn the truth from Dumbledore about Snape there. And Harry could see Sirius too at this time. Dumbledore will ask Harry if he wants to go back and tell Harry the process is actually not finished in defeating Voldemort. Harry will be sorely tempted to stay, but will go back, but still not sure if he will survive.

Meanwhile Voldemort will not go forward, rather just the opposite. He will go backwards into the past and witness all the actions of Harry Potter, still being confined to Harry's spirit from the golden flame. But it will be in a state of limbo, symbolically similar to OotP with the bird going in and out of the bell jar. He will not make any progress until....

Harry returns from the black flame, started by Voldemort's/Harry eyes connection, because he decided to come back to live in order to finish what is needed, although he may still die.

He continues to possess Voldemort. While at the same time coming to some understanding of Voldemort as his awareness of being engulfed in the black flame of his tarnished, yet once again whole soul because the horcruxes have been destroyed. Like Dumbledore asked in HBP, Harry begins to feel sorry for Voldemort on some level.

Eventually these fiery flames are going to extend to the heart of Harry/Voldemort and they are going to merge at least momentarily. Meaning they will become one. And in this, I am still trying to figure out how it will be shown. The oneness only lasts for a moment.

Obviously, some imaginative work of the great writer JK Rowling. This mergence will cause an enormous pressure on Harry, and even more so on Voldemort.

But Harry will definitely make it from here and in this process of mergence, the scar on his forehead will disappear. Voldemort, meanwhile will simply feel himself seperate away from the merging, which is why the bond will break between them including transfer of powers that Harry had.

This will kill Voldemort because obviously his soul does not have the ability to deal with the pressure like Harry's does. His tarnished soul will release itself from Harry's untarnished one merging, and he will die an instant, irreversible complete death. What happens to him in death, will not matter.

Harry's scar will disappear. Wizards will actually celebrate the complete disappearance of all signs of the dark lord, the disappearance of Harry's scar and how he can truly never return. And how the boy who lived can now continue to go on - but this time with a new life while still remembering all the people he has lost along the way, but at least staying to celebrate with people like Ron/Hermione.

By the way, I think this will take place somewhere on Hogwarts grounds. As this would exemplify the bond between Harry/Voldemort as both feel a strong pull towards the school, and felt like it was a home. So both will get to go home in a way.

I also think that Severus Snape will be in the background helping Harry and he will be with Fawkes who will also be present for Harry/Voldemorts fight. It will take place at midnight in my opinion. Peter Pettigrew- the real betrayer of the series will redeem himself and Harry will be glad of the debt he owes Harry but i'm not sure why. He will actually witness some of what occurs, but others could as well.

Here is a strange idea I came up with:


Because of the enormous effort it will take to destroy Voldemort's very existence it will almost kill Harry, if not kill him.

How? There will be two fiery flames that will erupt from Harry/Voldemort eyes when they meet in the final and only confrontation they have in book seven. They are not using wands because they are ineffective as they are of the same core/make. They use the magic of their blood, the heart, the brain, the eyes and physical touch like in PS/SS fight.

(of course the fight will have other events before this). Harry will be under the effects of the Draught of Living Death, to stopper his death, once he passes through the fiery black flames, that are supposed to send you to death. I have not figured out yet a good way for Harry to obtain the Potion, but I assume through Snape, but Harry will not know Snape wanted him to take it.

Voldemort will be greatly weakened when Harry possesses him for an extended period of time and controls him. The eyes of Harry being green and Voldemort's red, are obviosuly crucial to this, and how Harry has mother's eyes.

But These flames will be twins because they are the same at the essence and represent two different souls, but souls none-the-less. One is black and tarnished (Voldemort). The other is golden and pure (Harry's made so by alchemical symbolism, as his spirit will embody the sorcerer's stone).

This reflects somewhat well on PS/SS when Harry passes through the black fire to get to Quirrel and Hermione goes back through the purple. Only this time Harry will go forward to finally see his heart's desire to be with his parents/relatives. He will also learn the truth from Dumbledore about Snape there. And Harry could see Sirius too at this time. Dumbledore will ask Harry if he wants to go back and tell Harry the process is actually not finished in defeating Voldemort. Harry will be sorely tempted to stay, but will go back, but still not sure if he will survive.

Meanwhile Voldemort will not go forward, rather just the opposite. He will go backwards into the past and witness all the actions of Harry Potter, still being confined to Harry's spirit from the golden flame. But it will be in a state of limbo, symbolically similar to OotP with the bird going in and out of the bell jar. He will not make any progress until....

Harry returns from the black flame, started by Voldemort's/Harry eyes connection, because he decided to come back to live in order to finish what is needed, although he may still die.

He continues to possess Voldemort. While at the same time coming to some understanding of Voldemort as his awareness of being engulfed in the black flame of his tarnished, yet once again whole soul because the horcruxes have been destroyed. Like Dumbledore asked in HBP, Harry begins to feel sorry for Voldemort on some level.

Eventually these fiery flames are going to extend to the heart of Harry/Voldemort and they are going to merge at least momentarily. Meaning they will become one. And in this, I am still trying to figure out how it will be shown. The oneness only lasts for a moment.

Obviously, some imaginative work of the great writer JK Rowling. This mergence will cause an enormous pressure on Harry, and even more so on Voldemort.

But Harry will definitely make it from here and in this process of mergence, the scar on his forehead will disappear. Voldemort, meanwhile will simply feel himself seperate away from the merging, which is why the bond will break between them including transfer of powers that Harry had.

This will kill Voldemort because obviously his soul does not have the ability to deal with the pressure like Harry's does. His tarnished soul will release itself from Harry's untarnished one merging, and he will die an instant, irreversible complete death. What happens to him in death, will not matter.

Harry's scar will disappear. Wizards will actually celebrate the complete disappearance of all signs of the dark lord, the disappearance of Harry's scar and how he can truly never return. And how the boy who lived can now continue to go on - but this time with a new life while still remembering all the people he has lost along the way, but at least staying to celebrate with people like Ron/Hermione.

By the way, I think this will take place somewhere on Hogwarts grounds. As this would exemplify the bond between Harry/Voldemort as both feel a strong pull towards the school, and felt like it was a home. So both will get to go home in a way.

I also think that Severus Snape will be in the background helping Harry and he will be with Fawkes who will also be present for Harry/Voldemorts fight. It will take place at midnight in my opinion. Peter Pettigrew- the real betrayer of the series will redeem himself and Harry will be glad of the debt he owes Harry but i'm not sure why. He will actually witness some of what occurs, but others could as well.

great theory! Bit long though :D

hmmmm.....
alright. here goes.

harry destroys all the horcruxes, not including himself (as in my world, he is not one), finally gets over his notion that he can just protect ginny by pushing her away, blah blah blah yadda yadda yadda FINAL BATTLE SCENE:

harry is going one-on-one with voldemort--fred is dead (killed by voldemort), molly weasley is dead (killed by lucius malfoy, who was killed by his own son), lupin and tonks are both dead (lupin by bellatrix lestrange [she died first--lupin died by savage war wounds], tonks by her inferius mother cast by bella herself),moody and shacklebolt is dead (moody by lucius malfoy, shacklebolt by rookwood), and harry is at his wit's end. he's fighting with all he's got. suddenly voldemort disarms him and nearly AK's him. hagrid, upon seeing this, throws himself in front of harry, giving him enough time to recover his wand, but in the process gets the Avada Kedavra right in the face. harry (somehow) vanquishes voldemort (i haven't gotten that far yet), and he and ginny and hermione and ron get married and live happily ever after in harry's parents' rennovated place at godric hollow (at least h/g--r/hm live in the Burrow with a morose george, a mangled percy, a sad but managing mr. weasley, and the ghoul in the attic).

alright, i need to work out the kinks, but it's gonna be great.
i have a fanfic from which this is all based....but i still need to put it online. maybe i'll put it down in my next post.....
yippee....i'm a writer, too.

Here is a good one:
There were they. Finally, they came across again...the Surviving Child and the Dark Lord. They were walked towards each other, getting closer slowly, not even once taking their eyes fromone another.
Around them were the people who loved Harry and the Death Eathers. They had made a circle now. One side of the circle was Harry's part and the other was Voldemort's. All were watching them. A destroyed house was behind them, the Godric's Hollow.
"At last" said Harry.
"Yeah, at last. Finally the child who survived, who put off my rule will be dead, in which place his parents were killed."
"You get ready to be killed. Because I am the one who is going to kill you. Either you or me can get out alive from this battle."
"We will see. Now, take the position for challenge again Harry Potter. In the first challenge, you were lucky. But this time it won't happen again."
So they started challenging, spells, Avada Kedavras and the others. At last, Harry fell down because of a spell. Voldemort bended over him. Then, turned around. "Yes, you saw your hero. He is just a little boy. Now, he is going to meet his parents." Every Potter supporter was shocked. Was that over? And the Death Eaters were in a great exclaiment.
Then Voldemort turned his wand to Harry. "Avada Kedavra!"
"Expeliarmus!"
There it was again. The red beam of Harry's wand and green beam of Voldemort's wand had met again. And then, it turned out to a yellow beam all around them. It was becoming again...Priori Incantatem
Then they started raising. The lines were covering around them. There came a relaxing sound. The sound of the phonix. Fawkes was now above them. He joined the music.
Harry's wand started to tremble. Then it went to Voldemort's. The thing that came out of Voldemort's wand was Snape's smoggy body.
"I am sorry, Profesor Snape."
"It doesn't matter now, boy. I always hate the weaks. Don't be weak. Kill that creature."
Then there came the others in order. Harry's parents, and at last his uncle. Every one was calling him now.
Inside the death eathers, Malfoy was thinking. "Kill that *******, Harry."
Weasleys were calling him.
Fred and George were calling him. "You will make it Harry."
The ghosts were calling him.
Dobby and others were calling him.
Hagrid was calling him. "Shou im his tey Arry!"
Hermione and Ron were calling him. "Come on Harry. You can do that."Ron yelled at him. "We are always with you brother."
Remus Lupin and Tonks werecalling him.
Minerva Mc Gonagalland and other Hogwert teachers were calling him.
The centaurs were calling him.
Harry saw a Death Eater turn her wand to Harry. Peter Pettigrew jumped on his way and cracked the wand. was Before his death, he said to Harry, "I never wanted to trait your Father Harry. Belive me." Then he was dead.
Aberforth Dumbledore( R.A.B) was calling him. "Remember Dumbledore Harry. He knew you could do."
Yes, Harry knew that. And also, Harry remembered Sirius. Dumbledore was calling him in his eyes. "You have sth he doesn't Harry."
"What is it Profesor?"
"Love Harry. the Power of love. You can love."
At that moment, he turned to Voldemort. "You didn't recognize sth Voldemort."
"What, what are you talking about?"
"I have sth that you don't have."
"No, this is impossible. I gave all the things you had to you."
"Dumbledore once said, what state our future are not our abilities. But they are our choices. I choiced to kill you, with the power of love."
Then, from every wand of each person who is calling Harry, came out a dizzling beam. Captured Voldemort and one moment later it was gone. The Last Challenge was over. And Harry fell down.

Quick ending.

Harry grogally climbs up from the ground holding his wand arm, when Ginny gasps, and pointing, shouts to Hermione "Look Hermione, its gone!".
Hermione looking serious turns to face her and exclaims " Whats gone?"
Ginny replies with a smile "its gone, the scar".
THE END

I agree I'm no writer either, but hey you can only dream.

Harry to voldy: see my new boots, that is snakeskin baby, as in your last horcrux snake

That is too funny. :rotfl:

Actually I think that dementors will show up during the final battle. Harry will conjure a patronus to protect himself and those he loves and cares for but Voldemort will be unable to create a patronus so a lucky dementor will suck out was is left of his soul. He will be nothing more than a shell of a human being, alive but without thought. A fate worse than death.

"One cannot live while the other survives"
that is a strange thing to say because they are both alive.
Note both their wands are tied to each other
Harry get hurts Vold. get hurts
Harry is the boy that lives
Vold. is the evil that lives
If one lives so does the other so far
But if one dies the other will take him with him
I wonder
Will Harry find a way to kill/destroy Volamort? By sacrificing himself to do it?
If Harry dies what will Voldamort's perpose be?
All his greatest threats are dead. Dumbledore, Serius, Harry. True he'll have people against him, but those three may have been the ones with the best chance.Don't forget who he all killed to be feared. I doubt armys can stand up to his power. This way if Harry does die he still gets a happy ending. Being with his parents. The peace that he wanted. His friends safty. If Harry dies it will be both sad and happy.

If Harry dies what will Voldamort's perpose be?
All his greatest threats are dead. Dumbledore, Serius, Harry. True he'll have people against him, but those three may have been the ones with the best chance.Don't forget who he all killed to be feared. I doubt armys can stand up to his power. This way if Harry does die he still gets a happy ending. Being with his parents. The peace that he wanted. His friends safty. If Harry dies it will be both sad and happy.if Harry dies and Voldy survives, what would be the point of the series, good must overcome evil.

I'd like to see the Mirror of Erised come back into the book as part of the finale. Let us say that pretty much everyone Harry cares about died in the final battle (Ron, Hermione, Hagrid, Ginny, the whole crowd). Harry still lives, but barely. 'Survivor's guilt' comes into play. However, he will return to Hogwarts to remember his favorite place in the entire world. While he journeys through Hogwarts for the last time, he uncovers the Mirror of Erised. In it he sees what he did the first time he ever looked into it: his family. However, he then realizes that other people apart from his family are there: Dumbledore, Sirius, Ron, Hermione, Hagrid, Ginny, etc. He slowly goes to press his hand against the mirror, hoping to fall into their world. And then a sensation like that of journeying through the Pensieve overwhelms him and he falls into the Mirror of Erised. The final line would be made by Lily: "Hello, Harry. We've been expecting you." Something of that sort.
Although it seems a bit cheesy and childish I think it would be fascinating that Harry wouldn't have to die to achieve the happiness he's been longing for.

Quick ending.
Harry grogally climbs up from the ground holding his wand arm, when Ginny gasps, and pointing, shouts to Hermione "Look Hermione, its gone!".
Hermione looking serious turns to face her and exclaims " Whats gone?"
Ginny replies with a smile "its gone, the scar".
THE END
I agree I'm no writer either, but hey you can only dream.
Sounds good to me! :D Although, now that I think of it, this ending would work better if there was no epilogue. It sounds more like an ending of a final confrontation with Voldemort. But I like it anyways!

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Let first analyze the facts:

1) Harry has the following people to help him now: Ron, Hermoine, Hargrid, Mad Eye, Lupin, etc.

2) Snape has killed Dumbledore - and Voldymort can kill ANY one of those characters mentioned above with ease.

here is one of my theories for the end and these are fully legit will text backups:

harry must find all the hocruxes and destroy them before OR after killing voldymort. Trully all texts point to the fact that harry is actually a horcrux or has one inside him. This evidense is clear by looking at the end of book 5 when he meets voldymort at the ministry. I believe this is one of the most important quotes from the books:

Then Harry's scar burst open and he knew he was dead: it was pain beyond imagining,
pain past endurance - '
He was gone from the hall, he was locked in the coils of a creature with red eyes,
so tightly bound that Harry did not know where his body ended and the creatures began:
they were fused together, bound by pain, and there was no escape - '
And when the creature spoke, it used Harry's mouth, so that in his agony he felt
his jaw move . . .
'Kill me now, Dumbledore . . .'
Blinded and dying, every part of him screaming for release, Harry felt the
creature use him again . . .
'If death is nothing, Dumbledore, kill the boy . . .'
Let the pain stop, thought Harry . . . let him kill us . . . end it, Dumbledore . . .
death is nothing compared to this . . .
And I'll see Sirius again . . .


The Lord Voldemort soul within harry decides to show itself in that scene.

Another very important point is the fact that now Voldemort is one with harry in blood and soul. 16 years ago he merged with his soul, and when now he revived himself with harry's blood - both harry and voldemort contain all the hatred and evil of voldemort's soul and all the love of harry's blood.

Look at the following lines. This is when dumbledore asks harry how voldemort returned:

"He said my blood would make him stronger than if he'd used someone else's," Harry told Dumbledore. "He said the protection my - my mother left in me - he'd have it too. And he was right - he could touch me without hurting himself, he touched my face."
For a fleeting instant, Harry thought he saw a gleam of something like triumph in Dumbledore's eyes. But next second. Harry was sure he had imagined it, for when Dumbledore had returned to his seat behind the desk, he looked as old and weary as Harry had ever seen him.

This lines in book indicate that dumbledore was pleased when he heard harry say that he used harry's "love" blood. After all, harry's blood did destroy voldemort thrice thru out the books:

1) When voldemort tried to use avada kadabra on him when harry was 1 yo
2) When harry touched quirrel
3) When voldemort inside harry came out in book 5, it was harry's emotion of love towards sirius that stopped voldemort.

Now we have a a voldemort that is walking around with that blood 24/7. he is now a very bad mix : Hatred soul and love blood.

We know that harry will not DUEL out with Voldemort - that would be foolish. I said this again and I will say this again: it will be an emotional battle... one that will some how use the love inside both bodies to kill. If Voldemort used the soul inside harry in book 5, then harry must learn to use his love blood inside voldemort's body. Each (voldemort and harry) will have to fuel his emotions and feelings to destroy the other. Harry will probably lose loved ones in the process.

Jk has set everything up. The hero is ready, the mentor is dead, the betrayer has been revealed and now must come the great ending. Go harry :clap:

i have an idea of what i think is gonna happen...but i cant post it os it will be the end of my fanfic...(i know where its gonna end up...but not how its gonna get there) but yh...mines slightly...ok...very different to that but hey! lol

The ending of Book 7/the HP series. (http://www.cosforums.com/showthread.php?t=62811&highlight=ending)

I believe most of this discussion is serious in this thread.

One I think Voldemort will be destroyed.

Two I think Harry will get injured but live. And there will be a OMG moment when every one is supposed to be scared that Harry might have died.

Three Snape is going to die, he will probably be responsible for Voldemort's death. There will supposed to be an OMG moment when everyone is supposed to think "I knew he wasn't evil!"

Through some turn of events Hermione, Ron and gang will be prevented from helping Harry in the last battle.

Characters like Lupin, McGonagall, Mad Eye Moody et all will be killed, at which point we are supposed get all choked up and say "I can't believe she killed ---!"

Harry and co will live happily ever after to the end of their days.

I like this theory, both comical and realistic. In all actuality this will probabley happen. If not with Harry sacrificing himself, someone will sacrifice themselves for Harry (Vice Versa).

The thing is now, if it is to happen, we will have to know what is going on. That sorta thing (The love/sacrifice spell/curse) cant just happen and we cant guess what it is, we will be clueless.... UNLESS we have seen it before. And if this theory does hold up, which i think it will, then I think we will definately have to see Lilly preform it to Voldemort. This means, because the book(s) are/is in Harrys point of view, that Harry will either go back in time, or see a memory -- maybe his own.

I do think the trio will travel back in time, nevertheless, I dont think it will be to see the Potter attack (THE attack). I think it will be to go back and change something recent.

That means that most liekly we will see a memory. It will have to be either A- Harrys. -Maybe he learns how to extract his own memories and he and the trio will go into them. OR B- Snapes. - JK said herself that someone else was there that night (or hinted at it or something). I think that person was Snape, and he will have "left" the memory at Hogwarts. I think Snape will have seen Lilly do the curse, and then do the curse for Harry himself when the time comes down to it.

I've posted this somehere else too but I think that it is quite relevant here too

I think that Voldemort does not know that Harry is a Horcrux, but when (if) Harry, Ron, Hermione and others succeed in destroying all the other horcruxes, as well as Voldemort's body, the part of Voldemort's soul in Harry will surface and take possession of Harry's body in case he is not strong enough to resist, meaning that at the end Harry becomes the enemy and there is no choice left for the others.
+ I'd like to add that this ending is to be considered since J.K doesn't want anyone to continue the series after book seven and promised deaths in that book. So the best thing would be that both V and HP die as well as some others in the process. i.e. that there is not enough left to write somethin cool.

About how V will be killed.. I think it will be more simple than we all think, but a little difficult. The destruction of V's phusical body will not be the main problem.

About how V will be killed.. I think it will be more simple than we all think, but a little difficult. The destruction of V's phusical body will not be the main problem.

About how V will be killed.. I think it will be more simple than we all think, but a little difficult. The destruction of V's phusical body will not be the main problem.

About how V will be killed.. I think it will be more simple than we all think, but a little difficult. The destruction of V's phusical body will not be the main problem.

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As I'm sure this has been mentioned before, I quite like the idea of the series ending very much the way it began. A "sacrifice of love" would have to take place, and Voldemort would fall for the same thing when Harry was just a baby, except this time, his Horcruxes will have been destroyed. Even though it sounds very unlikely, I always thought of Snape being the one to make this "sacrifice". Harry is defeated, laying defenseless on the ground. As Voldemort approaches to give out the final blow, Snape stands in the way. Voldy, thinking nothing of this, simply tells his "loyal" servant to "step aside". Snape refuses, and remains standing in front of Harry. Voldemort would be confused, but would probably have no choice but to kill Snape. The thought of "love" would never cross Voldemort's mind in a million years, regarding Snape and Harry, so he continues towards Harry, raising his wand, shouting "AVADA KADAVRA", and a green light fills the room. All of the sudden, *BOOM*, the curse is sent flying back at Voldy, hitting him square in the chest. The room catches fire, and Harry excapes (or doesn't escape?) and the legend of Voldemort becomes nothing but a memory.

As to how Snape would "love" Harry. I haven't quite figured that out yet. :p

Perhaps there is more to the sacrifice then we know. There is obviously more to Snape than we know, so perhaps the role of "Harry having his mother's eyes" will play a role.

Just brainstorming. :)

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Jk has set everything up. The hero is ready, the mentor is dead, the betrayer has been revealed and now must come the great ending. Go harry :clap:




You are so right. She has set this up to be a most awsome battle but LOVE is definately the key. The battle will not be with wands but herts and souls.:love: :love:

I thought of this when I was reading OotP again adn came to the end when Harry is talking to Nick. Especially when Nick said that the dead go to that other place. I really don't want Harry to die in the end, but if JK has to kill him off, I thought of this scenario. So Harry dies and then we see him as a spirit watching over his body until he's safe in a tomb and then he goes up to where all the other good spirits go when they die and he's greeted by his mom and dad and Sirius, where we can see him happy and at peace at last.
And then I thought that when Harry kills Voldemort, prior to his own death, of course, that Voldemort is taken "Ghost" style, where all the dark spirits come around his spirit and as he's screaming, takes him to purgatory to live forever with his own kind.
But I think that if JK feels that Harry does need to die than she should at least give us closure in some form of knowing that Harry is finally happy and at peace in death.

I agree that the series will end with Harry finally achieving peace and happiness through death.

Harry will be reunited with his parents, Sirius, Dumbledore and the people he loses in book 7.

We will feel worse for those who live than for Harry. The survivors have to endure the pain of dealing with Harry's death. Being the dead body is much easier than to deal with the loss and aftermath.

Harry lives, Voldemort dies, Mr Weasley becomes minister for magic, Hermione is eventually head mistress of Hogwarts. Oh and Bill eats Percy for good effect :)

That would be a sad but good ending. At least the wizarding world can live in peace but I'll miss Harry. Really I just want Voldemort dead.

I might be shallow, but I just want Harry to live and Voldemort gone. Although I wouldn't say no to some lasting reminder about the battle against Voldemort (i.e. slight disability) for Harry.

Although I wouldn't say no to some lasting reminder about the battle against Voldemort (i.e. slight disability) for Harry.

That's funny. I've told my brothers who have and are fighting in Iraq, that they just need to come home alive. They could get maimed or otherwise injured, but at least be alive.

But of course I would love to see Harry defeat Voldemort once and for all and then live happily ever after with Ginny, but I just don't want to get my hopes up and be disappointed. So I'm going to expect the worst and hope for the best, but if the worst is that Harry dies, at least I have a scenario in my mind of a happy death with him going to those he loves most, after he kills Voldemort, of course!

B- Snapes. - JK said herself that someone else was there that night (or hinted at it or something). I think that person was Snape, and he will have "left" the memory at Hogwarts. I think Snape will have seen Lilly do the curse, and then do the curse for Harry himself when the time comes down to it.


JK said herself that it wasn't Snape on the website I believe :shrug:

Personally, I think there will be a whole Bad Wolf, Dark Phoenix thing going on.

You know where in despiration someone has sudden, tremendous and unstoppable power who will have to kill Voldemort.

Not sure about the rest....

Anyone know what I mean?

The book began with a sacrifice and I'm concerned that it will end with a sacrifice - possibly Ginny, another redhead beauty, willing to give her life to save Harry. It's not the way I want it to end, but it's a strong possibility.

There are several scenerios that could play out with Harry dying saving Ginny, Ginny dying saving Harry, Someone dying in the name of love or whatever, you know thowing themselves over the vale, waving a fist, yelling NOOOOOO, etc. Too theatrical and Rowling will not recycle plots so the chance of that is not that high. Or it could end with Harry killing LV, and the trio plus Ginny will surviive. There will be an epilogue...so that could happen. My current feeling is that the trio will survive. I still am not sure about Ginny, but since Harry would live, she probably would. What point would her death make? It's a tough call, but my feeling now is a good ending as in a Harry live.

I just had a thought go through my head for an ending as I was reading the Sirius Character Analysis thread and I came up with a possible ending.

We were talking about the veil and how Sirius might be useful even on the other side, and I had a thought....If Harry is able to go through the veil, but protected, could he survive? If he could, and if he sees Sirius, he would have a chance that no one else seems to get in life - to talk again to a loved one who died.

JKR lost her mother shortly before writing this book, and she has said that a lot of HP is a way for her to deal with her own grief in losing her mother.

I honestly don't think that Harry is going to die, but he's never had a chance to visit with his parents or say goodbye to Sirius or Dumbledore. So I wonder if at the end, after having defeated Voldemort, I wonder if Harry will get a chance to visit with his dead loved ones by way of the veil, and then come back to the world of the living? Or maybe this is what the mirrors will be used for?

I just had a thought go through my head for an ending as I was reading the Sirius Character Analysis thread at Cos (something you said CBW), and I came up with a possible ending.

We were talking about the veil and how Sirius might be useful even on the other side, and I had a thought....If Harry is able to go through the veil, but protected, could he survive? If he could, and if he sees Sirius, he would have a chance that no one else seems to get in life - to talk again to a loved one who died.

JKR lost her mother shortly before writing this book, and she has said that a lot of HP is a way for her to deal with her own grief in losing her mother. One thing that really aches about losing someone is that you never get to talk to the actual person again. Ever.

I honestly don't think that Harry is going to die, but he's never had a chance to visit with his parents or say goodbye to Sirius or Dumbledore. So I wonder if at the end, after having defeated Voldemort, I wonder if Harry will get a chance to visit with his dead loved ones by way of the veil, and then come back to the world of the living? Or maybe this is what the mirros will be used for?

In a sappy sort of way, maybe Harry getting some closure with his loss will help JKR get closure with her loss?

Sounds good to me. I think I've come across that argument also. It's a heck of lot better then a rehash of somone dying to save Harry. There might a situation involving the vail. Rowling dealt with that in detail in book 5. It is a way of dealing with the death of a loved one. Rowling is also one heck of a romantic. She loves Jane Austen. That author was fond of happy endings complete with double weddings. That alone just about promises a happy ending. I still feel strongly that Harry will live. It might have to do with the hysteria fed by the media earlier this year. The way the media had it, we all should be digging Harry's grave by now.

I just had some thoughts that maybe it will involve the "old Magic". We have seen a could of types of this, one being the sacrifice of Love which saved Harry to begin with. The other is the magic of the life debt. We have had this mentioned and even seen it in action once with Snape trying to save harry in the first year during the broom incident during the Quiditch match. What if this is an over compleling type of magic? I mean what if one has no control over when or how this magic will kick in? Wormtail owes Harry his life, so when will this come to play, also Snape seems to have an inherited Life Debt from James to Harry. Could this be why Snape Hates Harry so much? It is something beyond Snape's control and we know how much Snape likes to be in control. We have seen some for shadowing of this in the POA movie when Snape jumps in front of the trio to protect them from Lupin as the werewolf. Could we be getting ready for both Snape and Wormtail intervening at the opportune time to save Harry from Voldemort? What do you think?

Mercer
Elf of Old

i believe there is some kind of Old Magic spell,involving love that LV probably doesnt know of,or,that Harry finds out.and thats how Voldemort dies.because of love,or a love charm/spell to be exact.