Book Five Predictions: Who Will Fall in Love with Whom?

They are just quotes and I have posted some of them before. I have saved copies too so it's quite easy for me to organize. And I type quite fast hehehehe
Hmmm...hmmm... are you able to read all of them :D


Edit:
It seems my long posts or my typing skills are starting to be the topic of discussion here. hehehehe :D

Ianifiel :)
It seems you don't eat a "4 day old"pizza anymore. I hope I remember it right.:o You don't throw "new crazy idea" for us to "discuss" ;) Anything...humorous?

By the way, is there by any chance I can change or edit my profile here?
Thank you, Apples for the reply

It's difficult to see what you don't want to see. It's a perfectly human reaction to something not going your way.

I was on here with her when she was posting her information, and she still hadn't posted it when I left at least 15 minutes later! :D

Edit: blue- you can change your profile in the link that says User CP. :)

Originally posted by Bluemagic
Personally, What I'm curious and concern about to read is how "HUMOROUS" she will make the romances in her books no matter which pair will come up

I agree I'm looking forward to seeing how she will make these relationships humorous, as well. :sigh: Right now I need a good laugh.

BTW, I had forgotten all about Fred and Angelina. (Personally, I'm a little exhausted with R/H vs. H/H... but I will always be an advent R/H shipper ;) ). This is one coupling I am looking so forward, too. We don't know much about them, but it seems to me that they might be fond of each other. And I don't know why, by I could see Angelina being the female accomplice to the Twins antics. LOL... I mean if you think about it... wouldn't it take someone extraordinary to get the Fred or George's attention (There attention spans seem to be limited to only causing chaos). Speaking of George... I wonder who did he go to the ball with, it wasn't mentioned in the GoF, was it?

Fred and Angelina pairing up... along with a dozen other things... are just side tangents that I am very intrested in. You know, it's not just the main characters and situations that make these books so great. It's reading about all the other side stories that are also going on.

Lol well atleast I remebered Angelia and Fred!lol! but who did George go with?? im soo confused!
lol!

BlueMagic thx for all ure advice ure such a nice friend:clappy: :D Im glad i met u, Ame, Lanni,Crash,hedwigs_keeper and the others!;) cuz ive been asking alot for help(not to gud at understanding things!lol!

Thx U guys!:D

And Ame u r rite gud thing u noticed tat lol!;D

And Ame :I agree I'm looking forward to seeing how she will make these relationships humorous, as well. Right now I need a good laugh.
I agree with u on tat! cuz i have a feeling the next books will be dark and alot of adventure;) and :'( deaths:'( !


And BlueMagic,

Ure the best at making ure statements fully understandable and u use other knowledge to back tat up!:D;D

Originally posted by SaRaH 23 HP
BlueMagic,c thx for all ure advice ure such a nice friend
Ure the best at making ure statements fully understandable and u use other knowledge to back tat up!:D;D
I am glad and always be glad to share whatever knowledge I have ;) Many bunch of thanks again for the wonderful compliment. :o And, I am not only one in the board doing that :o. There's a lot...really a lot!

Originally posted by Ame
Personally, I'm a little exhausted with R/H vs. H/H...
Whew! I feel that too. I was not really intending to write and explain all JKR's qoutes but after I read "SaRaH 23 HP" post, I found it confusing (again) I just thought she might be needing them just in case she's planning for re-organization of her post ;) Well, I just hope it helped :D

Normally, I always try to separate myself in any shipping discussion which concerns "proofs" from the books why it should be H/H, R/H, H/G...etc.It will be a never-ending story.;) I don't think I can stand if after I "happily reply" to a post (granting somebody asked for some proofs why I like or prefer this particular pairing), I will just received comments stating like my opinions are completely wrong and will "force" me to change my perception according to his/her beliefs. It takes TWO to have an argument/fight and I don't have any intention to be one of them ;).

I'd rather just simply state, I am fond of R/H and H/G pairing. Explain why I've grown to love them. Ok! R/H and H/H are the most debatable pairs. Personally,the way I understand the book, it's hinting for R/H possibility . (My H/G is still floating in the air ...just .constant vigilance;) Anyway, JKR gave some strong H/G hints too so I don't loose hope). Anyway, even JKR's replies are supporting my pairing perception especially R/H. I think there's no need to " stretch" what JKR says to fit into my or other people's theories supporting R/H. As I always say, I believe her and Im sure, we can differentiate between an ambiguous answer and a straight forward one.And just in case, If ever my R/H or H/G will not happen, well...that's life :D

Im thinking why R/H isn't clear to some people despite of JKR's obvious qoutes.Perhaps, a lot of it is "DUE TO NOT SEEING WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO SEE". Anyway,It's a perfectly human reaction to something not going your way. Honestly, I've known a lot of people in HP boards whom I truly admire, as in hats off, who have shown respect to other people's pairing preference. And much ,much, more, to those who do admit that the evidence is all there for R/H in canon, but simply prefer the idea of H/H or other pairs for that matter. ;)

Ok!ok! It seemed, I sounded serious :)Let's start now to think any "HUMOROUS" love situations that would occur to brighten our day. :D If the next books will be darker and scarier, at least "romantic relationships" will lighten them up :D Where's Ianifiel?:??: he's good in throwing new ideas :D

ahhh! BluMagic im thxful for being a part of ure choice! lol in my confusing and wierd ways!lol! well u always have the best reasons for everything! do u think u cud send me the quotes tat u have found which J.K. have pointed out and everything!

Thx alot!:D

Ure a really great friend!:angel:

I found an interview a while ago, and I had to find to make sure I had read it correctly. It goes.:

Q: Is Harry Potter ever going to fall in love with Hermione or is he going to fall in love with Ginny Weasley?

A: In Book IV Harry does decide he likes a girl, but it's not Hermione or Ginny. However, he's only 14, so there's plenty of time for him to change his mind. ;-)

This was also before book IV, but given that she also says in a different interview that Harry and Hermione are platonic friends, could this answer strongly hint that H/G has a good chance of happening? Course she could be just playing with our minds, but I think that if she had no intention of having Harry "change his mind" that she would have been strait forward about it like she was when she was asked specifically about Harry and Hermione. Any thoughts?

I think you will find him still fixated on Cho for book five!! :D

Originally posted by cannonFan

This was also before book IV, but given that she also says in a different interview that Harry and Hermione are platonic friends, could this answer strongly hint that H/G has a good chance of happening? Course she could be just playing with our minds, but I think that if she had no intention of having Harry "change his mind" that she would have been strait forward about it like she was when she was asked specifically about Harry and Hermione. Any thoughts?
Wow! you've noticed that too ;) Yeah! It seems, she'e hinting the H/G posibility. Did I mention about we can differentiate between an "ambiguous answer and a straight forward one?". That is why, there is a reason for her "straightforward platonic friend "reply between Harry and Hermione. And Since she said a "straighforward something`s going on BETWEEN Ron and Hermione reply. That leaves Harry alone. I'm really thinking about H/G possibility ;) which is just floating from nowhere :sigh: And if ever there will be any romance happening between them, I'm excited and curious how "HUMOROUS," she will write it... to make the pairing happens. Though, I'm expecting that any "boyfriend-girlfriend relationships" will take place in book 6 or book 7.
Here are more qoutes taken "after" the released of GOF which will give us more idea for better assessment. We can see she's "NOT" straightforward like her "platonic friends" reply regarding H/H and "yes...something's going on" reply regarding R/H when Harry/Ginny pairing is concern. Really...interesting :)
Dec. 25th Time magazine article, "The Magic of Potter"

"Poor Ginny, languishing in love for Harry, and he's merrily asking out other girls right under her nose! But that's just a boy thing."

From BBC "Red Nose Day" Online Chat (March 12, 2001):
Question: Will Harry ever notice the long-suffering Ginny Weasley?
JK Rowling: You'll see... poor Ginny, eh?.
And this one particular reply really caught my eye ;)

"Harry would go out with someone that had been in all of the books, but it wouldn't be Hermione." ;)

it means someone whom we've known since Book 1. Hmmm... getting more and more interesting :D

And IF she's really intending Ginny to get closer( I'm speaking of "closer friendship" only with Harry...it should be the first step. I can't imagine a drastic step. I will be in a great shock if GF/BF will be established in book 5), I am thinking letting her join the Quidditch team is a VERY GOOD idea. :D
Just a crazy thought, I Remember that she mentioned "Ginny Weasley [little sister to Harry's best friend, Ron] will play more of a role in Book Five."Yeah! I know I sound literal. But, possible.Though, I'm expecting "heavier" role concerning beating Voldemort.
However, she mentioned before also concerning the new Quidditch player/keeper (?..I'm getting over my JKR's articles).Anyway, she said it would be someone completely UNEXPECTED . Remember Gryffindor needs one new player since Wood left?

What can you say? ;)

Originally posted by SARAH
do u think u cud send me the quotes tat u have found which J.K. have pointed out and everything!
Err....errr...I've posted lots of JKR's qoutes here . You can copy/paste them already. Either, you really want more. Are you asking for the whole articles and the whole chat transcripts? They're very long and a lot. What do you think? You can also find some here in "Mugglenet" under JKRowling ;) I suggest you check it first.ok? ;)

Have a nice day to all! :D muah!

Is it just me or does Sarah23HP have a crush on someone here ;D

Just kidding. :D Great info, bluemagic.

I think that Hermione and Ron should be together. At the end of the movie he looks imbersed to hug Hermione. Harry's just really glad to see her.

Just to play devil's advocate for a moment, RE: H/H.... though JKR said 'just friends' a few years ago, she also said she reserves the right to change her mind. I like both of the two hotly debated pairings, and I think if you just look at the books, they both seem plausible. My gut feeling is that R/H will be the one she picks, but I have to admit I really like H/H a great deal.



from bluemagic:

"Harry would go out with someone that had been in all of the books, but it wouldn't be Hermione"

ooh, I never saw that one. If this is something she really said, I'd think it may be Ginny. However, depending on the context, she could have been referring to Pavarti Patil in GoF. Not in the least bit shippy, but he did indeed go to the ball with her.

yesh........ hmm...... boy, you leave for a few days and BANG!!!! you gots MAJOR catchin up to do.

I think that she WAS talking about Patil for book 4..... but in future books...... I think Ginnys a more likley suspect than Hermione

Yeppers. I totally agree. and ZIM rocks by the way. :)

Guess what... I'm actually falling for the idea of Harry and Ginny. This is so, so not like me. :p I normally never change my mind about anything. But hearing everyone talk about it, and support it, and then I got a great idea for another fic with the whole H/G pairing... I guess a person can change their mind. But it still seems too perfect... doesn't it... okay, let's just say that I am even more accepting of the H/G pairing.

Originally posted by LizardLaugh

ooh, I never saw that one. If this is something she really said, I'd think it may be Ginny. However, depending on the context, she could have been referring to Pavarti Patil in GoF. Not in the least bit shippy, but he did indeed go to the ball with her.
Originally posted by Finch

I think that she WAS talking about Patil for book 4..... but in future books...... I think Ginnys a more likley suspect than Hermione

Actually, Patil was my instant thought too (referring the Yule ball in GOF) but this JKR's qoute came out "AFTER" Goblet of Fire ;). That's why, I've indicated to my previous post "qoutes taken "after" the released of GOF" to give us more idea for better assessment.

Ame° ...wait for my response ;)

Come on Ame! Stay Strong! You never date the best mates sister!! It would be like dating your sister...

LOL... uh... I'll try Lani... I'll try. :lol:

Mmmm, I don't know. My son's best friend from grade school days to current time had this huge crush on my daughter, I mean it lasted Years, and she even considered it, but she never went out with him (that I know of), cause he wasn't her type...You're right in that he probably seemed too much like another brother to her. They're good friends and have had all the blow-ups & conspiracies that friends do, and if they were anything like me, I 'm probably glad that I don't know half of what they've done.

But, the dynamics are different here...She's got the crush on him. If the feeling were mutual, it could work out quite well. I mean, they've already seen each other at their best & worst. IF they Still like each other and are Attracted to each other after all that, then it could be a basis for a solid relationship.

That's a good point, and I agree it could be the basis for a strong relationship as well. The only thing have against the idea of H/G is that it seems entirely too perfect.

(Sorry if anyone disagrees, but...) JKR has already hinted towards and Ron/Hermione relationship. For her to hint towards both H/G and R/Hr seems so perfect. Imagine all four of them, happy and the best of friends, and... it's just so un-realistic!! And yet... yet the possibility is so there. :sigh: I'm somewhere on the brink of insanity with this one.

Ame, come on you left *** brink along time ago...

Ssshh... Lani. :scared: *looks paranoid* *in a whisper* It's a secret. Nobody's supposed to know. ;)

Originally posted by Ianifiel

Come on Ame! Stay Strong! You never date the best mates sister!! It would be like dating your sister...
EDIT: lanifiel! Hello to you! You are so cute...the way you say it ;) I had that feeling too that is why I never thought of H/G before (It came very,very late to me) but I just remember HP is a FICTIONAL BOOK with some touch of Real life. So anything is possible in JKR's world :D Perhaps, dating best mate's sister thing which is quite unusual, is not one of those some RL;) It maybe usual in HP world ;)
My motto is if R/H and H/G will happen, I'm happy. it just means -I catched what really JKR is showing in her books. If not, then it's fine with me also. Perhaps, I've just omitted to take a look on other things. What is important, personally, I know I didn't limit my options and hence I did LARGER perceptions(with some extra advice and perceptions from friends who are writers :) before when I get to my conclusion ;) ) That's life.Anyway,my concern is always about how beautifully she will write the romances in her books especially she've mentioned it will done in a HUMOROUS way.

AME!
Hi! Again, my H/G idea only came very late to me. Since, I've mentioned the way I see it in the canon it's R/H more clearly. So, how about Harry?
When I first read HPSS(March 2002..super late),like you, there's a "scene" that I love....Like a bell in my wild imagination. I just simply really love the way JKR expressed it and I WASN'T thinking of any romance that time. I had no idea about HP then.

THE JOURNEY FROM PLATFORM NINE and THREE QUARTERS
p. 109

"The train began to move. Harry saw the boy's mother waving and their sister, half laughing, half crying, running to keep up with the train until gathered too much speed; then she fell back and wave.

Harry watched the girl and her mother disappear as the train rounded the corner".



Have a nice day ;)

P.S. BTW, I hope you're not affected about lleyki's last post. Despite I gave a warning that the essence of my post is to cheer you up and tolerating your" fondness"and they're not proofs. We're not giving ultimate R/H romance indication there. It seems there is a just a misunderstanding.:(

Lanifiel! My name is lanifiel with small 'L's!!

*grumble*

Originally posted by lanifiel
Lanifiel! My name is lanifiel with small 'L's!!

*grumble*

I'm really so sorry :( I am not wearing my contact lens. All along, I thought it's "I". Maybe that's why you don't reply to my previous posts because I mispelled your name :(
I hope I didn't make you totally feel bad. But I've edited it already :) Am I forgiven? I know when you're quite irritated. I saw your post on the other thread ;)

Hi Blue, how are you? (Oo, that rhymes... lol)

Originally posted by Bluemagic
THE JOURNEY FROM PLATFORM NINE and THREE QUARTERS
p. 109
quote:
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"The train began to move. Harry saw the boy's mother waving and their sister, half laughing, half crying, running to keep up with the train until gathered too much speed; then she fell back and wave.

Harry watched the girl and her mother disappear as the train rounded the corner".

OMG, Bluemagic, that is probably one of the sweetest things anyone has brought to my attention. I never noticed that scene before. I mean I do remember it, very well, for some odd reason. But it is a rather sweet sentiment. Especially knowing that JKR's parents met at the train station, that makes it seems so much more romantic. (I am such a hopeless romantic!!!) I suppose Harry just might end up with Ginny.

Though I've said I could see him ending up this way, I really don't want Harry to end up alone. He's been alone for so long (The Dursley's really aren't much of a family). And I am not fond of him being with someone new, nor do I see any hope for he and Cho (Sorry Lani... you almost never end up with your first crush). So, I am starting to warm up to the whole H/G pairing.

Originally Posted by Bluemagic
P.S. BTW, I hope you're not affected about lleyki's last post. Despite I gave a warning that the essence of my post is to cheer you up and tolerating your" fondness"and they're not proofs. We're not giving ultimate R/H romance indication there. It seems there is a just a misunderstanding.

No worries, Blue, no worries. I was a little upset, to be honest. But you and everyone else cheered me up, and I forgot all about lleyki's post. I've decided to not let others scare me away, especially when there are so many others who I do enjoy talking to. ;)

Here's a question, does anyone have a match for George? I mean Fred and Angelina seem to be hitting it off, but George just seems to be a little left out. Any ideas?

You are forgiven.

Originally posted by Ame
[b]Here's a question, does anyone have a match for George? I mean Fred and Angelina seem to be hitting off, but Geore just seems to be a little left out. Any ideas?
I kinda want Fred and George to get with Katie Bell and Alicia Spinnet. :) In Book 3, they both make a comment about Cederic being cute, and Fred or George got really ticked off about that. I think there was a little jealousy going on there!

Originally posted by Apples
I kinda want Fred and George to get with Katie Bell and Alicia Spinnet. In Book 3, they both make a comment about Cederic being cute, and Fred or George got really ticked off about that. I think there was a little jealousy going on there!

Okay, so is that Fred with Katie and George with Alicia, or vice-versa? I've, personally, been fond of Fred with Angelina and Geroge with Alicia.

Excuse me, I have never gotten upset or annoyed by ANYONE on this board. If I sound a little cynical sometimes; that's just my nature because I stated a number of times in my post that I wasn't a romantic and that's why I saw some things one way. I thought the point here was to DISCUSS. Someone says something and people discuss and differ maturely. I have never made personal attacks on ANYONE. My mentioning Ame was simply because I felt she thought that I was discarding a response she made to a question I asked and I was simply explaining what I meant. I suggest you read my post carefully before getting offended and acting like I'm attacking anyone. I'm not so immature to get upset because someone differs with my opinion on FICTIONAL characters. Now I really think you two are out of line and I'm really upset because I have always been respectful of everyone here and ALL my posts will show that. Therefore I'd simply appreciate the same courtesy.

lleyki, calm down. I respect your opinion, too. No need to get upset. You did explain that you are cynical. And yes you never attacked anyone, no one ever said you did. It's okay, really it is. I'm sorry if you think we were attacking you. No need to get so upset.

Blue just understood that I was a little depressed after I had explained my reasoning for liking R/Hr. I was feeling down becasue it seemed my reasoning wasn't good enough for you, and I guess I got a little discouraged. She wanted to cheer me up.

So, please don't be upset, neither one of us are disrespecting you in anyway, nor is anyone calling you immature. I'm sorry you feel that way.

Now, let's talk about something more postive (preferably on topic). Come on, any more ideas for George? How about Seamus or Dean? I guess the obvious choice is Parvati and Lavender, huh? What about the idea of Snape having feelings for Lily?

Here's a question, does anyone else think that Myrtle may have a crush on Harry? I certainly do.

Originally posted by Ame
Here's a question, does anyone else think that Myrtle may have a crush on Harry? I certainly do.
That's a very interesting question, especially because we don't really know if ghosts are capable of falling in love. It kind of creeps me out to think about them falling in love and forming relationships after they're dead. :scared:

Originally Posted by Anne
It kind of creeps me out to think about them falling in love and forming relationships after they're dead.


LOL... it does seem a little creepy doesn't it? But I got the impression that she does have a bit of on crush on him. Especially after spying on him in the bathroom in GoF. (Actually I bugged out a little about that too). And if she does have a crush on him, then I ask, do you think it's because she knows he's the famous Harry Potter or is it just a genuine school-girl crush? And though she she died as a girl, she has been around for a long time, so does that mean she grew out of her girlish days? Can ghosts grow out of something...? Okay, I'm thinking too much.

Originally posted by lanifiel
You are forgiven.
Thank you ;) You sound serious:( Cheer up! :D Don't you worry...
I am for lanifiel/Cho ....all the way :D No need for me to analyze it ;)

Originally posted by Ame
Hi Blue, how are you? (Oo, that rhymes... lol)
Fine :) Thank you. There's something and a lot we should consider. All the while too, I thought Harry will end up alone (poor boy) but JKR said(I don't want to repeat all of them here) Harry ending up with somebody whom we've known since book 1 but it's not Hermione and the romances in her books will be the done in humorous way. So, I ruled out the idea Harry ending alone. But with whom? The only hinting she's giving so far is Ginny and we've known her since book 1.

Originally posted by LizardLaugh
RE: H/H.... though JKR said 'just friends' a few years ago, she also said she reserves the right to change her mind.
EDIT:
I completely agree. Anyway, she's the author. Personally, as a reader, I should ACCEPT and still LOVE whatever JKR is storing for us :) I understand that when JKR made a "straightforward" statement of "platonic friendship" between Harry and Hermione and giving a "straightforward" statement on "Yes..something's going on" between Ron and Hermione, the H/H vs R/H debate became more...should I say more rampant? Then she gave SOME hinting of H/G "possible" pairing. (Good thing, I've collected those valid qoutes :D) The debate is becoming more and more..... Some are happy.Some are disappointed. It seems to me, a lot of readers are expecting H/H to happen..... "perhaps" a sort of lead boy/lead girl thing. H/G seems so......? whatever they think :D It's really a surprise and dissappointing if JKR will say a strong "they are just platonic friends". Now, the next question is will JKR give in or change her mind for this matter since a lot are expecting H/H but she'd already stated the strong H/H status. Here's the right answer for that.


Take this JKR's interview from "THE CONNECTION"

Does this mean we are going to see the hormones kicking in?

"Yes, the hormones do kick in Book 4. You know, the bottom line is I can’t be led by what people want me to write, I have to write what I want to write --- that’s just the way it’s got to be. I’ve got to write what I want to write. If by Book 6, I’m only writing to 6 people and I’ve lost everyone else, yeah, I’m going to be sorry about that, but I will feel that I have to stand by what I want to do."


Whew! my eyes are drooling over lots of articles. But I think the above qoute is enough ;)

whew! really my "temproary insanity state of mind" is wearing off.
hope you're able to bear with me. ;)

I am going to have to go back and re-read Harry's reaction to Ginny goign to the Yule ball with Nevel.... I seem to recall he was a bit surprised.

Yea, he was. I think Harry and Ginny would be cute!

So what if she's Harry's best friends little sister? All's fair in love and war ;D

Okay I've calmed down, and I accept your apology Ame. I'm sorry, it's just that I hate when people make personal attacks on each other here for something so trivial. Like when Voritian and Blue weren't getting along, that was just bad. Therefore, whenever I feel like someone maybe putting me in that category, I get annoyed. Sorry if you felt like your responses weren't good enough for me. That's simply not true. Being a Lit major, we're taught to look at things at all angles and I tend to always take a rational standpoint because that's my nature. One more thing; why would be depressed if I don't agree with your point? You see the book as you see it. I don't have to agree with it and it doesn' t have to make sense to me. If that's how you see things; that's fine.:)

Okay, back to the whole issue of who'll fall in love with who. I have no preference for any of the couples except Harry and Ginny. I know some people think it's cute and that she likes him so badly but honestly I find that Ginny hero-worships Harry more than anything. That's one of the things I really like about Cho; I don't get that sense from her at all. Oh and it never really said if Harry was surprised or not by Ginny going with Neville(although he probably was just because it's Neville; I mean look at their reaction to him asking Hermione). Ron was but Harry was quick to recover to ask Parvati. Honestly Ginny will seriously have to do a 360 in BK.5 for JK to convince me that she's interesting and that Harry actually really likes her. I mean alot of people who don't support H/H say Harry has shown little to no romantic feelings for Hermione. That's true but my point is he has shown even less emotions towards Ginny. I mean honestly, at least he sees Hermione. May not be romantically but enough to say she was pretty at the dance. Does anyone know what Ginny looked like? Of course not; because Harry barely saw the girl. Now if we can say H/H will not happen because Harry doesn't think of Hermione that way, where's the evidence to suggest that he'll develop feelings for Ginny? Keeping in mind that Hermione is someone he's emotionally connected with(not romantically; it's different).

Honestly I don't hate Ginny. I just find her boring. I mean look at Malfoy. Sure he's the bad guy but he's so wonderfully created. His mean comments; actions, even if we hate him the books work with him there. Even Percy, who's annoying but that's what makes him interesting. Besides without him Fred and George will have half less material to work with. Ginny on the contrary is just there. That's it; Ron's sister, the girl who's obsessed with Harry. That's all, I mean JK has to give us something more.

Oh and the whole Myrtle thing; that girl has it BAD for Harry. Can I say girl or ghost? Oh well. She's a little creepy but funny. That bathroom scene in GOF was classic. Especially Harry's embarrasment; it was so cute.

I agree about MM---She sure has a major crush on Harry!!
Thing is, she has helped him quite a lot, but he hasn't hardly been more than civil towards her, much less been grateful, like he was when Headless Nick helped him out once...She's sure to notice! THen, will she turn on him?? It could get nasty!!

I definetely agree about Moaning Myrtle, but I think that any relationship between them would be just icky. I think that JK has definetly set up a Hermione/Ron relationship. Hermione and Harry are more brother and sisterly in my opinion. About the kiss, her personality seems to be more like the kind of person that would be really nervous if she had more than friendship feelings for someone. I'm kind of hoping for a transfer student from the states to kind of shake things up, because the personalities have become a bit tedious. In terms of Harry's relationship, I think that he needs a new character to have a relationship with. I don't particularly like a Harry/Ginny relationship, but that's probably because I really like Draco and Ginny together, but that's never going to happen. As for the whole, how will JK write a book with for "younger readers" that had high school relationships in it, I think that trying to aim for the same age group for all seven books is insane. High school is a time of evolution and there are a ton of changes between 11 and 18. I think that they should try to remain true to what would really happen, and do something to let parents know that the later books might not be suitable for smaller children, and leave the rest to the parents. I mean, PG-13 movies aren't appropriate for children, and parent's are warned accordingly. The same for mature CDs. They should do the same for a book series like this. It really makes me mad that the publishing company(or so I heard) is holding back the release of the fifth book, because it deals with what really happens, instead of a sugar coated version. I don't think it should be overly graphic, but it should be believable.

Why does it have to be student from the states? Personally, I don't wanna see any Americans in the HP books. I know that's kind of weird seeing as I'm an American..but I just like the books better without any, lol. :smile:

I have always been a H/H person, but R/H sound pretty good also. I could never imgine Harry with Ginny. Ron would get mad and Ginny is too young.

However, whoever he ends up with will die. Sad, but true.

How do you know?

Originally posted by lleyki
Excuse me, I have never gotten upset or annoyed by ANYONE on this board
Originally posted by Ame
lleyki, calm down. I respect your opinion, too. No need to get upset. You did explain that you are cynical. And yes you never attacked anyone, no one ever said you did. It's okay, really it is. I'm sorry if you think we were attacking you. No need to get so upset.
Blue just understood that I was a little depressed after I had explained my reasoning for liking R/Hr. I was feeling down because it seemed my reasoning wasn't good enough for you, and I guess I got a little discouraged. She wanted to cheer me up.

Oh! another misunderstanding again? I think I should be guilty for asking Ame :(
Anyway, Ame said it VERY WELL ;)
And I will just add "something".....
lleyki, yes calm down (again).ok?
1.To be honest, I was about to post a "special message" for you too. Wondering, when you'll be back on the board. I also miss your posts here.But I have to change all what I have written after reading your last post. I got surprised. I have to go over what you've written previously.
2. Yes, it's true we're here to DISCUSS but it doesn't mean we can't be friendly to each other. It makes the discussion more comfortable and fun. ;) This is the difficulty in expressing ourselves through WORDS. "WHAT" we write reflects our thoughts and "HOW" we write reflects our feelings towards our thoughts.Even we're opposed to other's ideas, it doesn't mean we will not consider our "WAY" of expressing which might give them the impression that their thoughts are not acceptable or good enough. or wrong. I think, the "WAY" makes the difference.We need to "adjust" somehow to "all" types of readers. Now, don't get me wrong by saying this. I don't like to start another misunderstanding.
3.NEVER I thought you'll be upset about me asking Ame.Since, It's not our intention to give you the feeling of attacking you.Anyway, for what reason? I'm so sorry if you feel that way too. Yes, I understand too when you said you're not romantic but for sure, at least I expect that you have the "sensitivity" that I'm not siding to anyone or creating an argument or involving you in an argument.Who wants that, anyway?I wish you're able to go over with my previous posts... mentioning you in my I own little way telling you somewhat like "be cool" thinking you got upset judging from the "way" you wrote your post regarding Ame's. But since you've said you've "never" gotten upset, it just simply means I did it for nothing and it's not appreciated(?).Whatever... Well, it's ok.Nothing personal.That's life. And even, when you're not here, I'm still mentioning that I owe you replies and hoping you can still wait.I just wish you understood it as I think and care to share my ideas with you and your ideas interest me too. Just to let you know that I even have "Lleyki" folder concerning my replies for you. Since, you've mentioned nobody yet is replying to your about "this and that" question and I'm planning already maybe my ideas interest you.
4.And lastly, I got quite "curious" :( mentioning the time when I and "Voritian" weren't getting along. Like you, I don't want also to be involved in any personal attacks. I just wish you see me that way too.:) If you've just noticed "how much" patience and careful explanation I did that time "considering" the posts made by him.I know it takes "two" to make an arguament. That is why, before I will be "totally" provoked I left the board. And it took time for me to return since I saw him being involved in another heated argument again.I think, He had already 3 or 4 time heated arguaments during his stay here.Habitual? oops! Hmmm.....hmmm...I just hope you understand what I'm trying to imply.:D

Anyway again,I'm sorry if I upset you somehow.I hope everything is fine again between us :)

Whew! I thought I'm doing nice things to you and Ame :) but it seems not:(
BTW, I'm writing this on my "permanent sanity state". ;)
I hope my next post is about "who'll fall in love with who." topic again:)
Sorry people, I just have to clear something.
thank you for bearing with me.:D
Have a nice day! :)

Well, glad we got that cleared up :smile: This is always a happier place with no feuds going on :D

Mature people do that :D

Indeed they do!! Glad we finally have some mature ones in here!

Just Kiddin'.....:D

Blue you really didn't have to explain yourself in such detail because I got over the whole thing since yesterday but thank you for the thought all the same. The reason I got so upset was in Ame's response to you she stated that she wasn't going to let others scare her away and I took that to mean that she somehow felt that I was attacking or being mean to her which wasn't the case. Honestly the reason my response was so harsh was because I was both upset and hurt. I couldn't understand why anyone would feel that way when I have always been very respectful of everyone. Trust me when you sit in a class of fourty kids having different opinions on a novel; you learn a thing or two about patience and respecting other's opnions. Okay so that's all cleared up and hopefully there weren't be anymore misunderstandings. Btw, I look forward to your responses Blue.
Sorry again to the others for interrupting the "who'll fall in love with who" debate. Had to get that off my chest.:) You'll can go on now. Oh btw, I'm sorry if some of my posts seem sarcastic but again that's my nature. Bad I know to be a cynic at 22 but oh well.:)

:) :)

Ron n Hermione OBVIOUSLY had to be together. No matter if Rupert doesn't approve of it or Emma just can't totally imagine it, they just HAD to!! lol. They can just pretend and act can't they? But anyway, they made a really cute couple in real life, all the same so...

I CAN'T imagine Harry and Ginny. When i read abt that, i was like.. :no: ...

Ginny is just too...err....too...u noe?

I'd prefer Harry and Cho. They're really cute together. I like that part in GOF where Harry asks her to the ball and they both got really shy and awkward...very cute. :)

Originally posted by girl_wizardry
Ron n Hermione OBVIOUSLY had to be together. No matter if Rupert doesn't approve of it or Emma just can't totally imagine it, they just HAD to!! lol. They can just pretend and act can't they? But anyway, they made a really cute couple in real life, all the same so...

I CAN'T imagine Harry and Ginny. When i read abt that, i was like.. :no: ...

Ginny is just too...err....too...u noe?

I'd prefer Harry and Cho. They're really cute together. I like that part in GOF where Harry asks her to the ball and they both got really shy and awkward...very cute. :)

i totally agree with you girl_wizardry!!

Originally posted by RABiD


... JK also stated that the girl Harry will go after will be a girl that has been in all the 4 books already and that we will be quite surprised who it is. ... The only girl that has been in all 4 books is...Ginny. That's why I feel they will match.

Hang on, I'm sure I'm not the only one who wouldn't be at all surprised by a Harry-Ginny relationship in future books.
I still like the idea of Ginny becoming a stronger character a having a relationship with Harry etc, I just wanted to point out that it doesn't perfectly fit the spec. (as it were).

Originally posted by MioneandRon4ever
. J.K has built the tense fiery but still loveable relationship between Ron and Hermione.

Precisely my point! Hurrah for Hermione and Ron!
What other reason could there be for them always stiking sparks off eachother than that they fancy eachother?
I hate the idea of some sweet, perfect, Queen Amidala and Anikin, romantic in the face of death, sacharin, Harry-Hermione relationship. JKR is just too down to earth for that, surely?
Besides, if Hmione and R are focused on eachother then Hmione will become less academic and R will feel less inadequate.
Hmione 4 Ron!!!
(Sorry got carried away)

...hmmm... i think i'll go for the draco and hermione.. they stick together real cool....:clappy: poke: poke:

Originally Posted by You-Know-Her
However, whoever he [Harry] ends up with will die. Sad, but true.


Oh, that's so sad. :sigh: But I too see Harry not ending up with anyone at the end of the story. Though, I really, really, really don't want that for him.

Maybe we are missing someone, I mean Ginny wasn't the only girl mentioned since book 1. Let's see... Lavender and Parvati... but they don't really seem to be his type. Oh, here's a twisted thought!!! What if it's Angelina... or Alicia... or Katie!! They've been around since the first book!! But aren't they all older than him? Still... it would be a pretty big surprise.

And I'd never once actually pair Myrtle with Harry... eeewww... no. I just get a laugh out of the little crush she has for him. And I think ghosts are capable of... I guess I should say... well, I really don't know how to say it. I suppose a ghost could date (?) another ghost. I mean they were once human. It seems to me that other than losing their physical bodies, not much else changes. Still, it is a way out creepy thought, Myrtle having a crush on Harry. ( :lol: Kinda funny too.)

"Hallo! Ame
How are you? We're online at the same time again :)I did some editing to my last,last post. I've come up with better explanation. :D Despite of my colds and cough :(

Again, my H/G idea only came very late to me. Not until JKR made some hinting of some possibilty of H/G.

When I first read HPSS(March 2002..super late),like you, there's a "scene" that I love....Like a bell in my wild imagination. I just simply really love the way JKR expressed it and I WASN'T thinking of any romance that time. I had no idea about HP then.
THE JOURNEY FROM PLATFORM NINE and THREE QUARTERS
p. 109

"The train began to move. Harry saw the boy's mother waving and their sister, half laughing, half crying, running to keep up with the train until gathered too much speed; then she fell back and wave.

Harry watched the girl and her mother disappear as the train rounded the corner".

EDIT:

Yes! It may look so simple as it may seem but for me, I found this scene so special....so light-hearted and yet very meaningful. It gave me a different feeling. I really can't explain why. Perhaps, because of the involvement of a "mother figure" here or meeting a nice "family". After reading book 1, I became aware that the story of Harry Potter is the story of a boy in search of family. We see in the "Mirror of Erised" in book 1 that Harry's greatest desire is to see his parents and other relatives, which of course he can't have. I'm super sensitive person when family is concern.:)

When I've finished reading all the 4 books, I've thought, if there is an indication of R/H in the canon (the way I see it) and JKR herself seemed supported R/H....the question "How about Harry?" came to my mind. My initial impression after reading the books....Harry might end up alone.

Then, when I was reading JKR's biography (I really did a lot of background readings), This particular JKR's fact surprised me.


"Harry Potter's affection for King's Cross comes from the fact that J. K. Rowling's parents first met on a train as it left the famous London station".

I said...that's cool...JKR considers King's Cross the most romantic station in the world because - her mother and father met on a train at King's Cross. Then, I just remembered my first "favorite scene" in the books.As if telling me, there's really something there and re-read all the books and analyze again deeply.

Harry and Ginny had first met at King's Cross station. Ginny is actually the first and only girl Harry had met in the station. Could this be a good H/G sign? Is that the reason why the scene I've mentioned so special? It seems JKR is putting a little bit of her life in her books. Remember she made Harry's b-day like her bday?If she will go for a H/G pairing how will she do it?

I've thought.. could be the reason of Ginny's rare appearances and less interaction with Harry in HP books a way of JKR to surprise the readers if H/G will happen? It really looks simple but knowing JKR being a genius writer, she can make simple things as it may seem and yet it will turn out to be "surprisingly extravagant". That's what I'm really curious of especially she mention the romances will be in "humorous" way.

Compared to R/H, H/G has NO solid indication in romantic standpoint in the canon yet. But the way I analyze it and the consistent hints of the possobility of H/G given by JKR herself , it's telling me , I should take "EXTRA SENSITIVITY" regarding the characters of Harry and Ginny. :D Especially Ginny's character which is "highly debatable". For me, the reader has to put more meaning into her lines and actions than they do for the trio. Although, most of this meaning is only speculation, varying from person to person. But what really JKR is trying to imply to the readers the "real character" of Ginny? If we come up that she's a boring character or less character than we expected, she's not the real match for Harry. But if JKR is really intending Ginny to be with Harry, I don't think "Boring or less characterization" is what JKR's trying to characterize her. There might be something more. Perhaps, "extra sensitivity" in dealing Ginny's character is needed.

Back again to the scene, as I've said it's special and I love the "way" JKR expressed it in "detailed" description. I am not giving any romantic indication here but the way I picture Harry "watching the little girl "SO CLEARLY and CLOSELY."....."half laughing, half crying, running to keep up with the train until gathered too much speed; then she fell back and wave. and continued to watch her disappear as the train rounded the corner."It gave me "curious feeling". Why JKR expressed the scene so detailed this way? I've never encountered in the books JKR expressed this way when Harry have met somebody or have watched somebody.Normally, he notices the physical aspects of the person . But here, Harry watches and catches "different emotions and different movements" of this little girl in one single moment. He's very focus here.

And then despite of JKR's lot of hinting qoutes toward H/G pairing, this one from a magazine AFTER the released of GOF released surprised me.

"Harry would go out with someone that had been in "all" of the books, but it wouldn't be Hermione."

We can rule out Cho since she appeared only in book 3 and besides JKR mentioned that the trio is in love with the wrong people. Ron-Fleur, Hermione-Krum, Harry-Cho. So, totally Cho is out. It seems to me the crush of Harry of towards Cho is just an indication that JKR proving that Harry is a typical boy with working hormones :)

Oh!oh! ;)

I'll just post next time...Why Ginny among other girls we've known since book 1?Who is Ginny Weasley for me. As I've said, like my reason in R/H, it's not because I love Harry and Ginny ending up together why I came up with H/G but the way (according to my humble assessment) JKR seemed to me is preparing Ginny to be the one with Harry:) It looks like , A Ginny/Harry pairing completes the story JKR has set out to create in a way no other ship does. Magical bonds. Destiny. Family. Love. And then we have that gosh darned gut feeling. :D So, If my assessment is quite right then Ginny is the right one for Harry and that's what JKR trying to characterize her.

This JKR's quote is found in A-Level General Studies exam paper earlier this year. The question was about child characters in books growing up, and whether younger children will be able to read the later Harry Potter books, because they will deal with more adult themes.

"I think that if the readers care enough about the character, they will enjoy seeing Harry standing there, holding hands with a little girl".

She mentioned about little girl again :)

Oh! Oh!..my "temporary insanity state of mind" is wearing off". I hope everybody were able to bear with me ;)

Hello lleyki!
I hope you're fine. I can't post new messages as in new messages. I've just edited my last post and added new one in connection of my last post. What am I really saying? My gosh! I'm sick :( and it's Christmas time.
Have a nice day to all :)

Hiya Blue, I remember you mentioned that same quote from the book in an earlier post. I said it before, and I'll gladly say it again, I think that is so sweet. And after you told about how JKR's parents met at the train station, you got me to thinking. It would be romanitc if Ginny and Harry did end up together, especially if you know all the hints and background given by JKR.

I too disagree with the idea that Ginny is boring, so she's not good for Harry. The way I see it, JKR has given us a bit of detail to come up with some idea of their personality for each character, but she has been secretive with Ginny for four books now. I mean she had a role in CoS, but we still didn't learn much about her. Other than her infatuation for Harry ran deep. I'm actually excited to see what surprises Ginny may bring. I hold out much hope for Ginny's character.

Hallo! Ame! Yeah! I did add some revisions just for better understanding he he he :Dand added one qoute from jKR (the last one in the end). It's a very interesting qoute. :D

Originally Posted by You-Know-Her
However, whoever he [Harry] ends up with will die. Sad, but true.
I actually want to save this idea for "the other thread...Who will die" but since you've brought it up....:D

Anyway,that is why Ginny could be the right one for Harry.If JKR is really intending Ginny to be with Harry. This could be one of the reasons. She will not die.:D
Since, It’s already been done (her death), in a sense. Ginny Weasley was proclaimed dead once before, and readers (while hoping she could still be saved) were led to believe that she had been killed by the Heir of Slytherin.
"Her skeleton will lie in the Chamber for ever"
In the Chamber Ginny was almost dead but was reborn instead like the Fawkes shown being reborn and Ginny being the seventh Weasley child, and the seventh child, in mythology, is always destined to fight evil and injustice.If I remember it right, JKR mentioned something like number 7 play somewhat importance in her books. I will review all her interviews next time. I'm sick now. Oh!Oh! there might be a connection.! Could this be one of the key things JKR mentioning?Considering book 2 has different format compared to the other 3 books which is about "Voldemort returning to power". :D What if this key thing in book 2 will play of importance for the "downfall of Voldemort"?) Ooops! I am going out of the topic totally :D My goodness! I'm discussing all topics here :D
Anyway, what I mean, is the same thing never happens twice. Please look at this.
Book one, all three went took part in the "climax/resolution".
Book two, only Harry and Ron were around,
Book three Harry and Hermione,
Book four, just Harry
So, She wouldn't put Ginny in danger twice. It is just not JKR style to be repetitive in her plot twists....

What if in book 5, Harry and Ginny? Hmmm...hmmm.. Nah! I think it's too early for them to be together for the "resolution" part.I think,they still have a long way to go :) They will rebuild first their friendship.

Originally posted by Ame
I hold out much hope for Ginny's character.
that is why I did some digging ;)

Whew! My goodness! I am sick but still here typing instead of sleeping :) what am I doing! I think I really need vacation badly :D

Hope everobody were able to bear with me .) Have a nice day to all!


"I think that if the readers care enough about the character, they will enjoy seeing Harry standing there, holding hands with a little girl"
- JKR-

I hope this dosen't come out to stupid and im sorry if someone has alrady posted this idea:

My thoughts are that we really don't know who is going to end up with who. Sure, there are little hints here and there but hasen't JKR told us little lies here and there before to throw us off. I'm not saying that anyone here has bad thoughts or ideas or anything like that, I'm just saying that while they are all brillant ideas, we don't really know what will happen. It can go either way, and your not a true fan if you can't admit that they could be paired with anyone.

just wanted to put my idea out there...I know its stupid, so you can ignor me if you want.......

I said the exact same thing a few pages ago on this thread, lol.

This next book...it will be the cornerstone, the turning point, the pivitol factor...this next book will make and break any and all 'romantic' relationships between characters. Anything can happen :D

Hmm....hmmm.. Please people...lend me your...eyes(?) hmm..hmm.. ok ears!
Just for the sake of writing again...., I will say it again and again.... For the posts I've made, Please don't get the impression that I'm implying that R/H and H/G will really happen in the canon or I'm right . As I've always said my choice of pairing is "how I percieve the book and how it collerates with some hints of JKR. I could be wrong though. This is just my humble assessment and "MY WAY" of predicting "who will fall in love with whom".:D. We have our own ways of predicting anyway;)My way..logically and sensitivity. I've shown respect and accept other's ways always and including their thoughts so "at least" I expect everybody will do the same to me. I'm sure, it's not hard to do that. By saying this, I'm not implying somebody or anybody is showing discourtesy. Go on...discuss.You may accept,consider or ignore my reasonings. Though, I will be "very happy" to anybody showing at least any appreciation of my HARD WORK in reasoning.. What is important for me, I did my share of reasons for predicting that will give us larger respective.;)Personally speaking,at least, I know I didn't limit my reasoning and use other sources. I will say it again..this is MY WAY of predicting.And I don't intend to convince everybody. Go on with your choice...discuss;) And I always say,EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE. Anyway,As I've said before I'm not a "full-blooded" shipper but I will stick to what I believe in what will happen:) he he he If my R/H and H/G predictions turned out to be wrong.Well fine. That's life ;)

I don't take things personal but I just want to make this things straight.(for the nth time) :D

I'm on my "permanent sanity state of mind" while writing this and I'm sick! I think it's not a good combination for me! :D
I will rest now....
But .Have a nice day to all. ,)

Very good point Rizika and your idea isn't stupid. You see the books as you see it when you're reading. No one can say your idea is dumb just because you don't follow a popular belief or idea. None of us here know JK personally; so no one can say EXACTLY what will happen. They're all educated guesses. Okay; so never think your idea is stupid.:)
Oh so it was Darlingchild who said it; I knew someone said BK.5 would make or break a number of these theories. I couldn't remember who. That was always my point too; that nothing was certain or obvious. I felt some people acted like some ideas were set in stone and my thing is we don't even know who'll be alive by BK.7. I mean since we like to use quotes from JK so much; she herself said there'll be alot more deaths and the books will be alot more darker. Probably too dark for really little kids. That said who's to say anyone will end up with anyone when all is said and done. I mean who knows how many more people will die. I've always felt Harry would die but lately I've thought of something else. I don't know if anyone ever saw 'Legends Of the Fall' with Brad Pitt(great movie btw), but at the beginning of the movie, this Indian guy predicts that he wouldn't live long. However, in the end he realized that it wasn't Brad that was destined to die young but the people around him; those who loved him most. I've started to think that Harry might just be like that. He may very well live but it's the people around him and those who love him most that'll die. He already lost his parents; I'll be shocked if Hagrid isn't killed in the next book and there'll be two more to go. Just a thought; not really romance but what the hell.
Okay back to romance and the whole Ginny thing. I don't hate Ginny and think she shouldn't be with Harry just because she's boring. I find her annoying and think she shouldn't be with him because she has no character. I know people like this couple and that's fine. However, my mind will never change on this until maybe something amazing happens in BK.5.
Some people tend to say Ginny reminds them of Harry's mother and that's why they might end up together. How? I get the sense that Lily was a very intelligent, brave and strong woman. We haven't seen anything in Ginny to indicate these qualities. Someone said don't consider how little she's in the novel but the significance of her lines or presence when she's there. However, in POA she shows up only to blush when Harry tells her hello in the early chapters; she asks what's going on when the Fat Lady is cut up; she blushes when she brings him a card and I think that's it. GOF she seemed to be growing up a bit in that she actually spoke directly to him when they were climbing the stairs. However, that's not what really stuck in my mind. It's when Ron asked about Sirius. I know why they couldn't talk about that infront of her but that seemed an uncharacteristic slip even for Ron. I took that like a reaffirmation that while they get along great with Ginny she's still not part of their world and bond. Now I could see how if R/H do get together; Harry feeling like a third wheel will start to talk to her. However, that will seem like convenience. Although he might discover she really is interesting and we in turn will. Fine; that' s my simple point. If Ginny somehow develops more of a personality in the later books fine; but based on the first four I really find her annoying. I'm sorry if it sounds mean but she really is just THERE. Pining and blushing away.
Honestly the truth is I feel like who is this girl really. Harry has spent two summers at these people's home; he's best friends with her brother, yet Ginny is virtually a stranger. Does she have any friends from her year, what is she really good at? Just something. After four books the girl is virtually a stranger to me as a reader. I am not trying to be difficult here and have to think I'm not the only one who feels like that. It's just I cannot connect to Ginny on any level. Honestly Parvati and Lavender are more interesting.
Oh and the scene when she was running after the train in BK.1, while I didn't think " this is fate", I thought it was sweet. However, that's my point. There was so much possibilty for Harry and Ginny in the early novels but JK's done nothing with that. Harry has grown so much more; especially on an emotional level. However, Ginny seems to be stuck in the same place. Okay you have a crush on him; we get it, but give her something else, more of her own identity. That's why some people say even if it's only a year Harry seems much older than Ginny. Yes he does; because emotionally he is MUCH older than her. I just find that couple disappointing and like Blue uses so much; my gut is simply that it won't happen. Honestly if Harry and Ginny were really going to happen; wouldn't he have started seeing her by the FOURTH book. Didn't have to be on a romantic level; just a comment on how nice she looked at the dance; something. ANYTHING. I mean so many say there were always signs of Ron and Hermione going to happen. If that's true; Ron certainly did notice Hermione by BK.4, but Harry's still there; oblvious to Ginny.

lleyki, you're funny! Good points though. I agree that Ginny hasn't really been developed...but maybe JK has a purpose for keeping her in the background for so long. She could be one of the breakthrough characters like Cedric. Eventhough he was only really developed for one book, you can't honestly say that his death didn't touch you.

I kind of support a Harry/Ginny relationship, but there are some problems to my beliefs: that Ginny will die in the next book. Thats another thread entirely, so I won't go there.

I think Harry will fall in love with Ginny. Ron with Herminone, Hermione with Krum, but then she will fall in love with Ron; By the way, Hi!;)

Hello? Is someone here? Who do you think will fall in love with who?
Can you please give me your opinion?

You know who I think will die in the next book? It's not Ginny, it's Dobby. He's a big fan, and he's death would touch Harry a lot, don't you think?

well, viviana, WELCOME!! above all things. but some things to point out, the moderators don't like multiple-posting, so i guess you shouldn't do that. and you should post your ideas on who's gonna die in the actual post instead of here.

okay, on with it. some thoughts:

Hermione or Ginny with Draco- totally not gonna become true. he's heartless (soz to all those Draco fans out there), he hates all Gryffindors, and so it will never come true. i don't know how people can say that, they don't know each other enough.

Ron/Hermione- i'm totally for it. the tension is killing me. he's jealous, and she just doesn't wanna show it.

Harry/Ginny- possible, but i don't like it. dating your friend's sibling is too difficult. i'll hate to do it.

Harry/Cho- i think it's more possible with Harry/Ginny, he likes her, she's single and she went blushing when Harry asked her to the Ball, but i fear that she's still grieving over Cedric.

Draco/ and some Slytherin girl- well, of course it's gonna happen, but who? they've only mentioned 3 girls, Pansy, Millicent, and Blaise, but i bet it's Pansy, she knows Draco more.

what's gonna happen with Krum?
well, i think that Hermione will still "go out" with him, but then reliase she likes Ron and drop him. and then Krum will be out of the books, cept for those Quidditch matches, but he's still gonna wait for hermione to go back to him, poor guy...

Ok new theory time:

Harry wont hook up with anyone this book. He will like someone, but she will not return his feelings and Harry will feel like a fool before the end of the book because of his feelings. As for the person he likes I think it might be Ginny but she will be involved with someone else and while she might still like him, she is the kind of girl who wouldnt cheat on anyone...

um...nice theory, but you know, puberty hits...

So your saying women will cheat on guys because of their hormones? Typical...

lol...not that. the hooking up part...typical of you for saying that...:p

Lani you are totally right! Who knows who Harry will end up! Knowing J.K. she could say that Harry might fall in lover:love: with anyone! She will probably make this the most excting book ever!

Hey Blue!:D
Another post you said for me not to get in trouble? I think that was the How do you think will die! lol!well what do you mean? heehee:evil: !

Blue you have to new friends!:D lol! well in typing Long Long Long posts! Guess? heehee poke: Its Ame:rolleyes: :whistle: and lleyki ;D nuttin wrong with that!

Blue do you think that you could e-mail me all thoose facts? cause it hurts my eyes reading long post!:grumble: lol!


Rizika thats a really good point! Thx for putting that out! you are abouslotly right! How will we know what will happen untill we read the book? Also as Rizika said we have to admit JK could dicide to change Harry's fate in the middle of the book! Also again as Rizika pointed out that she can miss lead us! I'm sure she could have seen these and diecided to change her story! Havent you noticed how long this book is takeing to come out??

I heard also that JK said in a newspaper(or on the radio I forget i have a short memory!lol! Blue dont say a word O.K!lol)
JK: I have a begginning a middle and an end and the readers would say give it to me! But i don't think the story is complete....

And we would but JK included detail and many exciting things in her books! Look how long the GoF is!!

Originally Posted by Lani
Harry wont hook up with anyone this book. He will like someone, but she will not return his feelings and Harry will feel like a fool before the end of the book because of his feelings. As for the person he likes I think it might be Ginny but she will be involved with someone else and while she might still like him, she is the kind of girl who wouldnt cheat on anyone...


thats a really good point Lani!
Harry could fall in love with someone else and she dosen't return his feelings and then he reliezes that the person he truly loved all along was there all the time! And Ginny as you said wouldn't cheat even for the famous Harry Potter!

well here is the most stupidest theory allrite:(thought everyone would want a laugh:clappy: :D )
Lets just say Harry turns not striaght!:p (that would be fun to see Dan acting that out eh?) and he has SPECIAL feeling for Ron!lol! But Ron dosent share thoose feelings!(heehee) And Harry is soooo depressed that he comites sucide....

well hope you like this post!;D and also the THEORY!lol!

HaVe FuN!

Hmmm. I'm starting to think that Harry will finally get what he wants...a date with Cho. Didn't JK say that Harry would go on a date with someone on a school Quidditch team? It could very well be Cho. Here's what I say happens:

Harry plucks up enough courage to ask Cho out on a date. She says yes, figuring she better move on and get over Cedric. So, they go on their date, and Harry starts to get to know her more and he realizes that she's not at all the person he expected her to be. Now remember, Harry doesn't know Cho real well, so, well, we don't. JK could develop her any which way. Not to say that she still won't be a nice person...just not the right person for Harry and he sees that.

Anyway, thats my latest theory. I think that that would be the best thing for JK to do to get rid of Harry's crush on Cho: give him a date with her and have him realize he doesn't like her as much as he thought he did.

This is weird Darling. You and I seem to be thinking along the exact same lines.:) I agree completely with that theory. It's like an excorcism of emotions(if that's a good metaphor). Harry needs to be dissolved completely of his crush for Cho or else if he ever does get involved with anyone; it might seem that it was partly because he couldn't have Cho.

I'll go for Harry and Cho. I mean, why not? Harry deserves a nice girl like Cho and he likes her. He deserves to be happy with whom he likes for at least once. I don't get why Cho didn't date Harry at the Yule Ball. Cedric was nice, of course, but not as nice as poor Harry. Look all he's gone through! He deserves to have some good girl he likes to date him or even be boyfriend and girlfriend! I think that if Harry and Cho don't ever date in the books I will die of horror! They were meant to be together!

Cho does indeed seem like a sweet, kind girl. But like someone pointed out earlier, we really don't know her. All we know is what Harry knows, and he doesn't know much. I liked the theory that Harry may get to know her and realize that she is not what he thought she was. That's if he had any preconceived ideas as to what type of person she may be. I highly doubt overall that Cho and Harry will actually be together, temporary or otherwise.

What I am really hoping for is better development of Ginny's character. It seems to me that JKR maybe 'hiding' Ginny from us for a reason. I mean we all have a pretty good idea of what each character is like, even the minor ones. But Ginny is a total mystery. Why would JKR keep her hidden for four books straight like that?

Not to mention more hints as to who will and will not get together? ;)

Am I the only one weirded out by Harry/Cho? I don't think he needs anything to get him over the crush -- it was just a crush (he didn't know her) and gosh, her boyfriend was killed during a competition with Harry. If I were Harry, she'd be off limits to me, competely off limits in a romantic context for a very long time. I'd like to see them get to know each other maybe and be friends, but the Harry/Cho thing stirs up too much wierdness and psychological baggage than I feel pages should be dedicated to in an HP novel.

On the subject of Ginny, I dunno, I'm not for or against at this point. We don't know Ginny well enough to really draw conclusions. I think it will depend on how she is developed in future books.

Here is the thing with Ginny though... and how an H/G romance might work from a literary perspective. No 'proof' from the books -- I am not predicting here -- but IF JKR is thinking of going in this direction, I think she has done the right thing so far in not developing Ginny very much. The Harry/Ginny dynamic is very typical for the little sister crushing big brother's best friend. Harry likes Ginny, thinks she's a nice girl, but mostly he doesn't really notice her. He's flattered at her feelings, but doesn't give them much thought -- he really doesn't. This is pretty typical for this type of situation. Ginny, well, we only see Harry's POV, but what we *do* see is pretty typical for the person doing the crushing. I think the whole thing is set up in a realistic way. So even though Ginny isn't very well developed, I think that is still ok if JRK decides to a romance. In fact, given the context of Harry and Ginny's relationship at this point -- it makes perfect sense. Now, if H/G is to happen, Ginny has to do something that will make Harry notice her: Get pretty, join the Quidditch team, save his life, whatever. I agree with many who say that Harry doesn't need a damsel in distress, and that is why I like H/H as a possible couple -- Harry needs a strong, capable partner in a lover, not a liability and damsel in distress. I think for Harry and Ginny to work, Ginny has to evolve into something strong and capable in the next book. It is possible. Look at her brothers, look at her parents -- Harry may see Ginny as a shrinking violet, but something tells me that is not likely in the Weasley household, lol. A girl in a family of all boys has to be tough. Even the boys pointed out that Ginny normally won't shut up. She's just shy around Harry. Maybe we will see her evolve. H/G or no H/G -- I'd like to see Ginny grow up and evolve anyway.

Lizard, how come you always say what I want to say but better?:) Nice points about Ginny. I'm so happy someone seems to understand what I've been saying; about her character not being developed enough. Like I said in an earlier post, if something amazing happens in BK.5, that'd be great. However, her character has been very lacking in the first four books.
Honestly when I read COS I thought the whole thing was so adorable; especially the valentine day thing. However, I've just been disappointed in the development of Ginny's character. Okay we see from Harry's POV, but there are ways in which Ginny could have been inserted with her own identity without Harry having romantic feelings about her. The quidditch thing is a good point. I mean Ron's already not on the team, I would have thought that could have been an excellent way to develop Ginny's character and the relationship. I mean I almost positive if Ginny was playing on the team with Harry she would have grown up alot by now; been alot more confident and certainly be more comfortable around him.
Btw, I'm happy you brought up liking H/H because Harry needs a partner that's strong and can stand on her own two feet. Nothing to do with romance; but that's one of the reasons I love Hermione so much. You just know that she's the kind of girl who needs no man to save her. Plus, she is so strong in her own right. Off topic, but I just had to say that.
Oh and the whole thing with Cho; even if it's a date it might be good for them. Plus, a relationship between them doesn't have to be romantic; a friendship might be really good for both of them too.

Originally posted by DivaPower2003
I'll go for Harry and Cho. I mean, why not? Harry deserves a nice girl like Cho and he likes her. He deserves to be happy with whom he likes for at least once. I don't get why Cho didn't date Harry at the Yule Ball. Cedric was nice, of course, but not as nice as poor Harry. Look all he's gone through! He deserves to have some good girl he likes to date him or even be boyfriend and girlfriend! I think that if Harry and Cho don't ever date in the books I will die of horror! They were meant to be together!

Diva tats some good points! But wouldnt it seem wierd if Cho did go with Harry to the Yule ball...but she liked Cedric? Wouldnt tat be like she is only goin out with him because he has gone through so much?? And also I think that DarlingChild has some better points..She dosent seem to be the right person for Harry....

Lizard thoose are really really good points! And also Ginny is going to play more of a part in the 5th book!

I like the idea of Harry and the others dating people.. I don't think any of them are ready for relationships..

they are only 15!

I agree that the whole harry hermoine thing will NOT happen, bummer...anyhow..i think the ginny harry thing will happen ,but she seems like a shy little 10 year-old (no offense) I think the ron/hermoine thing mite happen..wut about krum? but no matter how it happens, the three friends will be broke up..they will either be in couples .... or there will be a third whell..ya kno what i mean?

i think harry needs a lot of good friends, and a girlfriend..he'll be needing support, and there is certain kinds of support u cant get from just friends..ya kno? but i dont think that he should go out with ginny, not at the least..oh well, whit wut it seems, they will be goin out, too bad

Here I return after taking a short hiatus from posting. I'm going to offer a small summary of my thoughts. It's a reiteration of earlier posts. Ron is so obviously crushing on Hermione and only finally admitting it to himself. Hermione's feelings are rather ambiguous. The only thing that is obvious is that she cares deeply for both Harry and Ron. The potential for these feelings to develop into romantic ones is seemingly equally likely. However, Hermione is definitely the type to be shy and maybe embarrassed with feelings like these. She gives Harry that kiss on the cheek because as far as she knows, Harry doesn't have romantic inclinations for her. As far as I can tell, Harry doesn't. But it's so obvious that Ron does. Hermione would prefer to be subtle about it all and thinks of Harry as (for lack of a better word) the "safer" choice. By no means do I suggest that she's being a tease and playing the two against one another. This is something that she doesn't know how to act in. No books can help here. She must use her instincts, and her instinct is to be cautious.

Ilyeki, I've noticed that no one has ever really answered your question about what do Ron and Hermione have that is so special? Well, they are friends. Most of the time they are around each other, yes, it's with Harry there. But, they are also with each other as well. The three person tandem is lovely to watch when all is going well, but things get really interesting when all isn't well. But, I digress, most of Ron/Hermione minus Harry is behind the scenes. Like during summer vacations, for example. They obviously are in contact with each other when Harry is locked in his room in CoS. And who was at the Burrow when Harry arrived in GoF? Hermione. I'm not suggesting that there is any concrete evidence that they are lovers in bloom. There's not enough evidence to go either R/H or H/H, at least in the books. JKR quotes notwithstanding, the books are too murky for this. I agree that Book 5 will answer many of our questions. But it may create more. We'll see.

I disagree that Ginny's not an interesting character. I think that she's underdeveloped, but there is potential there. She has been slowly maturing from CoS to GoF. I think CoS Ginny would have dumped Neville after Harry asked her to the Yule Ball, but GoF Ginny doesn't. Whether this is an indication that she's getting over her crush, strength of character, or both, I don't know. I do think that she'll play a bigger role in OotP and have the development that follows. I agree it would have to be something rather drastic for Harry to notice her as anything more than his best friend's younger sister.

Harry/Parvati? No chance. I'm not sure, but I don't think girls appreciate it when their dates pay no attention to them like Harry did at the Yule Ball.

Another change of pace. Draco. I don't see him being with Pansy Parkinson. Draco is the type that would be shallow and only really like someone that was good looking. His mother is a rather pretty woman, remember, and Draco is a mini-Lucius. Parkinson was described as being pug-faced. I believe Draco only goes out with her so he has a date. However, she frankly isn't to his liking looks-wise. I know this isn't a strong argument against P/D, but someone give me strong evidence for?

Bill/Fleur. Yay! Yeah, that would be nice. Fleur was rather impressed with Bill in GoF.

Go Hagrid and Maxime! :love: It could be a potentially tragic story, though, if say both of them die together.

On to Cho. Reason why she didn't go with Harry is that she was asked by Cedric already. I think Cho is a very good person, and has a big heart. I think that she and Cedric were more than just dance partners during the Yule Ball. Remember after Cedric died that she had tears streaming down her face. On speculation, she and Cedric were probably really close. Definitely the closest of the champion couples. However, I do not at all see her with Harry. Harry's not her type. She genuinely likes Harry as a person, but not romantically.

My train of thought is now derailed. Thanks for listening. :)

Originally posted by Hagrid442
Another change of pace. Draco. I don't see him being with Pansy Parkinson. Draco is the type that would be shallow and only really like someone that was good looking. His mother is a rather pretty woman, remember, and Draco is a mini-Lucius. Parkinson was described as being pug-faced. I believe Draco only goes out with her so he has a date. However, she frankly isn't to his liking looks-wise. I know this isn't a strong argument against P/D, but someone give me strong evidence for?

Bloodlines and family history, which Pansy must have, or she probably wouldn't be a) in Slytherin, b) so impressed by Draco, and c) worthy of his notice. That's more important to Lucius than anything else, and thus far, Draco has followed dear old Dad. Besides, as you said, what alternatives does he have? He's not exactly chummy with any of the other houses, and the only other Slytherin girl we know is Millicent, who apparently makes Pansy look like Fleur by comparison. I'm hoping he comes to his senses (in more ways than one), but íf he continues following the path he's on, it makes sense.

Cessa, Where's you hear that the publisher is holding it up due to more maturity of the topic matter/content??

JKR always said that Her plan Was to have it be Realistic, that the kids would grow up & have maturing behavior, values, feelings & relationships, just "not too gritty". It would be Really Wrong!! if the publishers were to be holding up her work because of that!!!! She's the author!!

Is there someplace we can write/e-mail to check this out & voice our outrage if that is in fact, the reason the publisher's holding up the 5th book?

I believe that JKR has a like father like son thing happening with Harry and James. James inherited his money (like harry), and therefore we can conclude that James Potter came from a prominent or famous family. Who will dispute that the Potter family is famous now? Also Lilly whose sister is a muggle, was a mudblood. It is important to realize that Petunia is NOT a squib, she is a muggle.Therefore we must assume that her parents were muggles, much like Hermione. I conclude, Harry and Hermione will end up together in the end, if they survive.



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-anonymous

Oddfellow, Good thought. Thing is, tho', Harry has a mudblood mom, but a pureblood father from an old wizarding line, one that does not discriminate against muggles/mudbloods That would make him more like his mother, or Hermione in the KKK-type pureblood minds. Ginny is a Weasley, from an old pureblood line. That would make her more like James. So, if we were to make that link you suggested, wouldn't H/G be closer than H/Hmy??
Honestly, I think my mind has changed a bit from my first post. I'm still Ron/Hermione, Draco/Pansy, Hagrid/Olympe, Dobby/Winky, Snape/??,
but now I don't know Who to pair Harry with!!! No one stands out. Ginny just isn't satisfying, yet. And Cho just seems like a first crush.
We need more character-building to find a good mate for Harry! We know it'll be someone that Harry already knows, we Think...JKR reserves the right to change her mind...but anyone she already has presented needs more character. It would make sense that we wouldn't know too much about them, since the books are from Harry's perspective and he's been a bit busy, & is Just Starting to notice girls. So, I guess that will come, in time...

I agree that there does seem to be some sort of pattern repeating itself. But I lean more towards Xikum's reasoning. If in fact JKR is using some sort of history repeats itself scheme, than Harry and Ginny seem more logical, but that's just my opinion.

Hermione does seem to be caught between her feelings for both Ron and Harry. She is protective and affectionate for both boys, and I believe this confuses her. But seeing her more comfortable around Harry makes me think her feelings for Harry are merely friendly, though I don't think she realizes this yet. I mean, when it comes to your first real crush, you are either shy and embrassed or always at each other's throats. She is neither with Harry. They are two good friends comfortable enough with one another so much that she'd kiss him on the cheek without a second thought. If she did have feelings for Harry, beyond friendship, than I don't think she would have done something like that.

As for Cedric and Cho, I believe that they were more than mere dancing partners for the Yule Ball. Cedric's death was tragic, and heartbreaking, but I don't think she would have still be in tears for as long as she had been had they not been closer than mere friendship.

Originally posted by Ame
Hermione does seem to be caught between her feelings for both Ron and Harry. She is protective and affectionate for both boys, and I believe this confuses her. But seeing her more comfortable around Harry makes me think her feelings for Harry are merely friendly, though I don't think she realizes this yet. I mean, when it comes to your first real crush, you are either shy and embrassed or always at each other's throats. She is neither with Harry. They are two good friends comfortable enough with one another so much that she'd kiss him on the cheek without a second thought. If she did have feelings for Harry, beyond friendship, than I don't think she would have done something like that.

i agree with you. Hermione does have "feelings" for both, and so she gets confused, but i guess it's stronger for Ron than Harry, in my opinion.

I don't understand if we are using family patterns; how Ginny and Harry make more sense. Harry's not a mudblood. His father and mother was a wizard and a witch respectively. Okay his mother came from muggles but his immediate line is pure. Mother and father both of the wizarding world. We don't know that none of James' family wasn't a muggle. Therefore Harry is like his father. Ancestry aside; there are the constant references to how much like James he is.
Hermione and Lily; well let's see. Hermione was the only witch of her family like Lily, extremely intelligent; we can assume Lily was since she was Head Girl and that's another thing they'll have in common. Cause there is no way Hermione will not be made Head Girl. There's also their bravery and strength; which is obvious in many examples.
Speaking of similarities; I have always found that the trio remind me of James, Lily and Sirius. Especially Ron's temper. I could so see him tricking Malfoy into something that might hurt him(like Sirius did to Snape) and Harry being his usual nice self and saving the little creep. Now this isn't to say that's what JK'll do; might be a little too obvious. However I couldn't understand if we were comparing Harry's parents; how he and Ginny made more sense than he and Hermione. Someone can maybe explain that reasoning again?

Sorry, I know the moderators hate double posting, but I noticed another post that caught my attention after I had posted.
I could see Hermione being confused about both boys; but where has it been shown that her feelings for Ron are stronger? Honestly people talk about Hermione is so much more comfortable with Harry and that's why it's obvious she doesn't really like him. However, is Hermione so much different with Harry than she is with Ron?
Honestly, if Hermione was hugging Harry all the time and kissing him on his cheek like it's no big deal; I'd say okay she definitely sees him as a brother. However, that's not the case. When Hermione hugged Harry in GOF, she also hugged Ron. When she kissed him; it wasn't this happy, go lucky kind of kiss. It was intense, even if it was on the cheek. Btw, a friendly kiss can be intense. Meaning even if it was just because of what he'd been through and nothing to do with romance; the feelings of friendship and I'm there for you were intense. My point is Hermione has never been so much more comfortable with Harry than she is with Ron.
Honestly as alot of R/H shippers like to point out, Ron makes Hermione laugh. Genuine laughter is a sign of comfort and being comfortable around someone. So one can say she is just as comfortable around him. Honestly when Hermione and Ron are having their fights; I don't get she's uncomfortable around him. More often than not he's just annoying her , that's different.
The only times Hermione seemed uncomfortable was when she was asked who she was going with to the Ball and when she was telling about Krum asking her to come to Bulgaria. All these times she just seemed like a normal 14 yr. old girl going through her first relationship; the whole blushing and being embarrassed thing. My point is people keep saying Hermione is more comfortable with Harry that's why it's a sign they won't happen, when honestly she's really comfortable with both. Okay I could see her talking about Krum more openly with Harry but that might have something to do with Ron acting like a nut about the whole her and Krum thing.

Good point, lleyki. I didn't really see it that way. No wonder JKR said that it was the first time!!! Make sence. Anyway, if you don't want to double post next time, there is an edit button at the bottom, sorry at the top of your thread (layout change again) and there, you can edit your post or add more stuff. Okies!! :smile:

Well the issue is still unresolved. Harry (and especially Ginny) is not more like his mother because she is of no wizard/witch dissent. Harry is like James. We must assume that James had potential to be the next Dumbledore, why else would Voldemort snuff him out early in life? He did not want to fear yet another powerful benevolent wizard. Yet it was Harry who snuffed him out in the first ending of power. Hermione is a mudblood, and Lilly was a mudblood (no offence just the only term available). Though, I agree, JKR will decide all's fate, being her world, we must learn more about the James, Lilly, Padfoot triangle. I think this is an interesting correlation.




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-anonymous

Thanks for the advice Springy; I'll remember that.:) Nice post Oddfellow; I've always felt that it would be nice to learn more about these three(although rumour is we will learn alot more about Lily in the next book). I mean who's to say that Sirius wasn't in love with Lily himself. I mean he never married and from the way everyone acts; Lily was ****ed near perfect. I mean it's one of the many reasons Petunia hated her so much; cause everyone loved her.
Btw, what colour are Ginny's eyes? I mean if people want to use the Harry and Ginny might happen because they're like his parents; her eyes might be a clue. I mean there's alot of reference made to Harry having his mother's eyes, so maybe if Ginny has the same eyes that could be a clue. So does anyone know; are her eyes green?

I like the Ron/Harry/Hermione comparison to Sirius/James/Lily.

But, to answer a Q re: my post: I guess I wasn't clear enough. I hope this is more understandable---whether or not you agree with it!! Yes, Lily & Hermione are mudbloods....from what we now know. But, JKR said we'll find out more about her family in the next book. Given her dark red hair, the Weasley's hair, and Gryffindor, I think there's a link. I feel that it's more like the post someone wrote (Sorry??who?) that Lily's family is an old wizard family that had a bunch of squibs, that over time became considered muggles...or else My idea that it's a mixed family, and at least some of Lily's grandparents are magical. The first hypothesis (but not the second) could apply to Hermione, too!

Ther's a supposedly confirmed bit of info in Mugglenet from JKR that James' family is an old pureblood family. Given his marraige to Lily, they can't be tooo prejudiced! That's another reason why I likened Ginny to James, not Harry.

But, it's clear that with the mixed heritage, he's only half old-line pureblood. SO, not as much like his father as say, Ginny, who is full pure-blood. And with his mixed heritage, Harry'd be more like Lily & Hermoine, in the minds of the KKK-type pure-blood fanatics.

Which is also part of why I like the Ron/Hermoine pairing. I also think they have some chemistry beginning to click. The Harry/ Ginny one makes sense from that same standpoint, though there doesn't seem to be any chemistry there, so it doesn't seem to fit in my mind---from the 'chemistry' perspective.
Am I clear as mud? Or making some sense?

I was reading posts from page 36 when someone posted about Harry/Ginny thingy *sorry, I didn't notice who posted that* ...

I think those are good reasons that Harry probably go with Ginny..

But I still don't like it. C'mon! Give Cho a chance! And like someone mentioned it before.. dating your best friend's sister is WEIRD. And not good.

i agree!! it's not the best decision...

the comparision with Hermione and Lily is quite smart, but i wouldn't like it if Hermione and Harry did go together, it'll be like a re-curring theme, history repeating itself, and man, i hate it when that happens

Yep, it's so unoriginal..

Harry falls for Cho, Cho says no. Harry Falls for Ginny, Ginny likes Neville, Harry is alone...

lol...so cynical...

so true...

Xikum, please don't think I'm trying to be difficult. It's just that I still don't see your point in comparing Harry/Ginny to his parents. Okay, that's not really true. I understand what you're saying but compared to the correlations between them and Harry/Hermione these seem a little weak.
You seem to be concentrating purely on ancestry and it's never been proven that there were no muggles in James' family. Harry cannot be like his mother in terms of ancestry because she was the only witch among her parents and siblings. Meaning her immediate line. To make a correlation like you're making; one has to trace James and Lily's bloodlines and the truth is most facts are rumours; hopefully JK'll give us facts in the next books.
I could never see how Ginny is more like James than his own son and the comparisons between Lily and Hermione are overwhelming really. However, all this may be moot because like someone said why would JK want to simply repeat history. I guess that's why Ron and Hermione may very well happen; change the course of things.:)

does it really mater wheather or not their is a comparrison.. i think that has NOTHING to do with it! sorry.... but i just don't get it...makes no sense.. in my point of view... but if u guys actually look at this site, there are reasons for the couples... here are some for Ron/Hermione

At the Yule Ball, Ron was openly jealous that Hermione went with Krum. However, even though it is very easy to figure out that Ron likes Hermione, Hermione's thought's are better hidden - she hasn't shown interest in any guys yet besides Lockhart.

In a Barnes and Noble chat, somebody asks:

Is it just me, or was something going on between Ron and Hermione during the last half of Goblet of Fire?
Rowling answered: "Yes, something's "going on," but Ron doesn't realize it yet. Typical boy."

So it's pretty much a sure thing that Ron likes Hermione - does she feel the same about him? She did show signs of jealousy when Fleur kissed Ron on the cheeks, and before the Yule Ball she said to Ron, "ask me first next time and not as a last resort!" This indicates she may have feelings for him, but she won't wait around forever. Maybe she is subtely warning him that he needs to come clean with his feelings, or he will miss out on her feelings for him. (Last one submitted by BoBaFeTT.)

also, in the sencond movie *JKR said that there were hints u wouldn't even think WERE hints* Hermione gives Harry a "friend hug," but Ron and Hermione chickened out because they have a secret crush going on so it was too awkward.
RON DEFINETLY LIKES HERMIONE THO!!!!!:clappy: :love:

k unrelated question, BUT Y IS THE ANGEL GREEN?!!? -->:angel:

I personally want Ron/Hermione to hook up:)

Ileyki, don't sweat it. It's not a big thing...I just like to find Possible Plotlines. ;)
I never meant Ginny was more like James than Harry in terms of parent & child, just in purity of bloodline. Harry would be more like Lily/Hermione because, in the eyes of a KKK-type, aka Voldemort pure-blood fanatic, he was just part-pureblood, or just recent 1 gen on his mom's side, pureblood, no matter how old his father's liine may be.
And, actually, I don't even hold with the purity of bloodline thing, that was just a topic someone brought up, and I was following along, exploring what the possible follow through could be. If you've seen my first/earliest posts, you probably know I have my own, different hypothesis. I just like considering the 'What ifs' that other people bring up. It's fun. I like to play both sides, at least as far as trying on the other guy's pair of shoes & seeing what things may look like from that perspective. ;)

BTW, Merry Christmas to all!!
Also, belated Blessed Solstice and Happy Hannukah, and an early Happy Kwanza, too!!

Listen, do we know anything about James' parents? Where are they. Are they still alive? It is likely not. But who killed them, Grindelwald? That, too would be interesting, but not likely. But no where in the series is anything said about Harry's paternal grandparents, why not? What if they were Death Eaters? Weird. Any theories?

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First of all, I want to send a "FRÖHLICHE WEIHNACHTEN!" greetings from Germany.
I'd really love to post my opinion..to give my interpretation of book 4..the way I see it but still I'm sick. These particular posts just qoute my eye. ;)
Originally posted by Slytherin_Chick
In a Barnes and Noble chat, somebody asks:
Is it just me, or was something going on between Ron and Hermione during the last half of Goblet of Fire?
Rowling answered: "Yes, something's "going on," but Ron doesn't realize it yet. Typical boy."
I will try to explain again that the key word here is "BETWEEN". So, it means it's two way. So, JKR's answers means
Hermione "has something" for Ron
Ron "has something" for Hermione
Hermione "realizes that she has something" for Ron
Ron "DOESN'T realize that he has something" for Hermione yet;)
Typical boy.
And this is a straight-forward answer ,)

Originally posted by Slytherin_Chick
also, in the sencond movie *JKR said that there were hints u wouldn't even think WERE hints* Hermione gives Harry a "friend hug," but Ron and Hermione chickened out because they have a secret crush going on so it was too awkward.
hmmm...hmmm...you do have a VERY good observations;)I will just tolerate it a little bitL;)
from The-Leaky-Cauldron interview (October 2002)

Chris Columbus regarding the non-hug scene between R/H.

*TLC*: Quick thing about the end of the movie. There's a very adorable scene where Hermione hugs Harry, but she doesn't hug Ron - what was behind that non-hug for you?
CC: Did you read book four?
*TLC*: Yeah, I did. [You've no idea.]
CC: So, it's a little bit of a taste of what's to happen, what's coming up.
TLC: So it is foreshadowing.
CC: It is foreshadowing, yeah. I just love the idea that the two of them, that there's an impending crush. And it's such a real thing for kids at that age. For instance, I asked Emma to hug Dan, and she said, 'No way,' and that was the day she was the most nervous being on the set. She was like, 'I am not going to hug him, no I'm not.' And I said, 'You've been petrified, this is one of your best friends, if not your best friend, you have to hug him,' I said, 'but you won't hug Ron, because that's where the tension is.
also
Time Magazine (October 28, 2002)
"In Chamber of Secrets, the romance between Hermione and Ron begins to blossom but just slightly."


Actually, when I read the part in GOF where Hermione kisses Harry, the EXACT imagination running through my mind was Hermione kisses Harry but then she "cannot" kisses Ron. I was really surprised to see something like that in COS(the hugging part). Anyway why I magined it this way? If we will notice clearly in that part in GOF

"See you, Harry," Said Ron, clapping him on the back.
"Bye, Harry!" SAID Hermione, and she did something she had never done before, and kissed him on the cheek.
"Harry - thanks, " George muttered, while Fred nodded fervently at his side.
Harry winked at them, turned to Uncle Vernon, and followed him silently from the station.
Since, we 're always saying that the book is according to Harry's POV, he might not see "what happens next" after Hermione gives him a kiss ;) I don't think Hermione will give Harry a kiss and then she will not give a kiss to Ron. Both are her friends....this is a very solid fact.

In that particular scene. Uncle Vernon, Mrs. Weasley, the twins, Ron and Hermione were all present with Harry.Please,just check your GOF book.
So, both Ron and Hermione are still with Harry in that scene. They didn't leave Harry. It was Harry who left in that scene;)
Personally, as a reader, I asked what happens after "the kiss"...will there be "the other" kiss between Ron and Hermione?
I really love JKR how she makes my imagination run.;) I really love her "romance plot" ;)It does me good if I ask myself what is the "purpose" of each scene or What does actually JKR's intention for putting a particular scene.;)

Actually, I'm surprised if people will think or say that JKR is disappointed about the COS movie. It is Ok if they only thought that JKR is disappointed well it's only they're opinion. I truly respect that. But if they will say as it sounds as a conclusion or direct information or a fact without any basis, I find it very disappointing as a reader. We really need to know JKR personally to say that. I think to state it as a fact that JKR is disppointed without basis is unfair. We're quite ruining JKR's credibility.
It's the reason why, in my posts, they're always accompanied by JKR exact statements and where I got it. And these are really from JKR herself. I can't just simply say "JKR mentioned or said" without any basis.I FIRMLY believe in TRUE Journalism. So, I really check if she REALLY said certain statements and not just a typical journalist interpretation. If JKR DOESN'T like to mislead her HP readers so am I. She values her credibility. And she never intends to lie to HP readers.Either,there are just some irresponsible journalists or just misconceptions from the readers. I will post next time to support this... about JKR's opinion about some misinterpretation of her statements. A sort of JKR defense on her statemements. ;) Actually, her statemements helped me to see some things I've "overlooked" . She's giving hints to "help us" to see things that we've might overlook and what we expect a little bit on her future books . So! I thought others are interested too.Oh! I've made promises again :( But I'm still sick )
Anyway,I'll give you an audio link..(to those who are interested) .how satisfied is JKR regarding the movie and stating about the key things happen in book 2.
And JKR does script approval ;)
http://ffmovies.ign.com/filmforce/audio/press_conf_jk.mp3

Merry Christmas to all!!

Xikum, you must remember that Squibs get accepted to Hogwarts, Argus Filch was in hogwarts. Therefore if Lilly and Petunia's family were Squibs at least some of them would have went to Hogwarts. Resonably, Petunia would have gotten her letter, and not been so hostile about Harry's Magic. Just a thought.
I didn't think Voldemort was a Pureblood.

Liars Prosper.
-anonymous

Does it ever say Filch was a student? :??: Presumably, he doesn't need to have been to work there.

But we're getting off-topic a bit. bluemagic, thanks for posting the "kiss" scene. :) I'd thought she did it with people around, but I couldn't remember.

I have a very strong feeling that Harry will end up alone. I mean, if he dies in the end, why bother setting him up with anyone? He may have a few failed attempts at relationships, but nothing serious. That's what I think would make sense anyway :smile:

Merry Christmas everyone, I hope you all had lovely days :D

Harry has been 'alone' most of his life for all practicle purposes..

I would like to see him with SOMEONE for at least a lil while.... I would hate for him to die in the end without knowing that feeling for someone and having that someone have feelings for him.

But someone does have feelings for him! Ginny!! ;)

lol that she does.. =)


but its jsut not the same if its not mutual......

*pouts* I want the next book... but hey if its done by the end of May would be a great b-day present..

Definitely Ron/Hermione. He's hot tempered and slightly less intelligent..she's level headed and very intelligent..opposites attract:love:

I would love to see Harry/Hermione but based on the trend in the book, it's Ron/Hermione. Any may be (just may be) Ginny/Harry. Not really sure though. JK likes to surprise us. I would also like to see Serius got a God-mother for Harry too. :)

Sirius and Buckbeak! Together Forever!

Oddfellow, Re: Sirius & Buckbeak...You're Baaad ;)

RE Vollie: That's right, he's Not! He is only a half-blood, given his dad was a muggle...not even as much wizard blood as Harry!!!Which is why the whole thing with him leading the Death Eaters (DEs), & so many of them being bloodline purists, seems sooooo wierd. Hitleresque. But, there are other threads that go on at length discussing that (& I've posted a bunch there...it is interesting, go check it out!).

And, I don't think the squibs do attend Hogwarts. Remember, when Neville first went, his family was thrilled 'cuz they were worried that he wouldn't be magical enough to get the letter? Filch may be there as a worker (& he himself admitted he's a squib), but we don't know that he ever Attended. That's the reason why I think he's AT Least as likely or second place liklihood to Petunia, to turn out to be the one who manages to do magic "late in life". Why else would DD keep him there, if he doesn't suspect that FIlch Might 'pop' at some point?

The info on mugglenet that was supposedly confirmed by JKR said that Potter was a pureblood, but nothing else that I can find. I for one, would Really like to know about his side, too...not just Lily's, tho I'll take whatever JKR's willing to give us! Somehow, I just can't see his family as DE's.

I know I've said this before, but I think it is going to be these people:

Harry Potter/Hermione Granger & Draco Malfoy/Ginny Weasley. Think about it! If Draco and Ginny got together, imagine the tension that would come from both families! ;)

Someone should chop down this board and just stick a poll here for everyone to vote on...

But I cannot in a million years imagine Ginny liking Malfoy!! He would have to change sooo much...Or she would, and not for the better!!

maybe.... but i agree, there is NOT a very high probability that that would happen.. what a wierd twist that put on in the stories... if Draco and Hermione got together... that too would be different... i have a question
in GoF, did Draco not only ask pansy to the yule ball, but to "go out"???

Dunno'...that wasn't covered, I don't think.
But, she sure has been trying for him...maybe they've been going out all along, & we just don't know it. After all, this is written from Harry's perspective, & he wouldn't know, would he?

its very unlikely that ginny and malfoy would go out with each other, remember in the umm...2end book with the valentines, and cupids hoe ginny sent harry one and malfoy laughed or sumtin and malfoy said sumtin too and ginny got mad at him, and yelled at him..JKR makes it out to seem that they dont really like each other, after all Ginny has a childish MAJOR but childish crush on harry right?¿

Well, you know what they say...guys tease because they care. ;)

Sort of unrelated, but I've always wondered how Malfoy knew Ginny wrote the valentine in the first place. She wouldn't have mentioned it to him...or would she?

good point!!!!!! and guys do tease when they're too shy to say somethign, but why would malfoy want to go out with a weasley? you know..he supposedley hates that family..key word supopsedly..i dun no whast do you think about that?

yea ture...he does hate weasleys... it wouldn't really make much sense, and would be TOO big of a twist.. i can't put together either y this would even be important? :??:

and plus his father despises them ,he really would get mad at draco if he went out with "such a type of wizarding family"

a bit of rubbish why they hate the weaslely's though, i mean they're a pure-blood faimly..not that it would matter to me what blood you have, i am muggle after all, but... it SURE does matter to them....back to the subject..

draco worships his father, i mean if he did anyhting worng, to get in trouble, draco would be mad with himself!

Malfoy is just a snot who gets power and a feeling of being better then others when he is belittling others. Really doesn't matter who it is either the way he treats his own friends..

At this point I don't think Malfoy likes anyone...He is too caught up trying to show how big he is... self centered lil brat..

:sigh: *sigh* Yeah, it doesn't really fit with the direction Draco's taking (I suppose Ginny could redeem him from the dark side, but that's a bit cliché). But it would still be hilarious to see him suddenly trying to get on the Weasleys' good side.

NEVER call Malfoy a self centered lil brat! he's awesome!:rasp: :angry: :censored: hahaha :banghead:
but i agree with everything..OTHER THEN THAT!

draco is a um..okay no other way to say it he's downrite mean, thats just the way he is thjo.. plz dont be mad..but looka t the way he treats the weasley's...

although tom felton isnt bad looking at all! lol, back to the subject..

it would really crack me up to see malfoy trying to get to the good side, i'm sure the weasleys would let him, but i dont think ginny would fall in love with him, as i said..she worshios h.p

oh ya..bak to the whole gettin to the good side, i mean why would he want to anyhow, dont forget crabbe and goyle and lucius were all in the circle or vld. upporters, when he was re-born, member?

haha.. ok ok..:) it's tru..i hate to admit it.. but draco is...is... mean.. there i said it! :o muhahaha.. and yea i totally agree, i just can't see him joining the good side.. he worships his father and fellow slytherins TOO much if u ask me! haha

p.s. u know tom feltons sexy! ;) HAHAHAHAHA :D ;D :D ;D

yeah i dont see him goin to the good side either...he worships them too much, but back to the subject, who do you think draco would go out with? hhmm...

i wish tom felton went out with me, lol!

I think that's part of why Snape is so nice to him. He probably came from similar background, and now knows how wrong he was...he may see himself in Draco, and want to prevent him some greif. By being nicer to him than his father is, or so it seems, he may be able to influence him in subtle ways, yet.
True, it is also self-serving to play favorites w/Draco and pick on Harry simultaneously, since it puts him on Lucius' good side.
But I think there's more to Snape's favoritism than that.
He probably has only heard about Harry & his fans since Vollie was zapped, doesn't realize how bad Harry's had it with his own 'family', so doesn't realize that he's not a pampered brat.
Draco clearly enjoy's Pansy's attentions...several little cues in the book.

lol! i would definetly wish i knew tom felton and he um :o:ofell in love with me :o:o LOL! but ANYWAY!
i think Draco would probably go out with Pansy **ew did u see the actress who plays her?? UGLY!** lol.. but uh, yea, i think he would go out with her.. she seems to WANT him if u know what i mean.. hahahaha... but i unno if hes going for it? they might even be going out already.. we don't know.. i wish JKR would specify! ;D hahahahaa:D

yeah now that you mentioned it they seem to like each others attention! ahemm....
well I'm goin to bed *yawns* night nighty

lol good night!

Originally Posted by Bluemagic
Since, we 're always saying that the book is according to Harry's POV, he might not see "what happens next" after Hermione gives him a kiss I don't think Hermione will give Harry a kiss and then she will not give a kiss to Ron. Both are her friends....this is a very solid fact.


You know I had that same thought when I read GOF for a second time. I'm hoping that we will get a bit of more insight on that scene in the next book. :sigh: Wouldn't it be great if we could know about the little moments that Harry missed out on? But then there wouldn't be in inspiration for fanfics... would there? ;)

Originally posted by Slytherin_Chick
i think Draco would probably go out with Pansy **ew did u see the actress who plays her?? UGLY!**

well, actually Pansy hasn't been cast yet. The girl you're talking about, Katharine Nicholson, was not cast. It was just a rumor gone bad...and over the Net.

Okay about the oh-so famous KISS; I guess people can debate it anyhow to support their particular ship. R/H shippers say;
It was for comfort for all he'd been through
We don't know if she kissed Ron too because the books are told from Harry's POV
H/H shippers say it was a sure sign she's interested in him or at least trying to decide how he feels about her(don't really believe that btw).
Okay let me make a point here. Whether or not you are a H/H shipper; people need to step back and realize that that scene was put there for a purpose. Okay if you're a R/H shipper you can say it was purely for comfort but once again that doesn't really work; because she could have hugged him like Mrs. Weasley did. Honestly, I got the sense that Harry was more comforted by that than Hermione kissing him. The impression I got was one of surprise because like the reader he wasn't expecting that.
You can say it was to show how strong their friendship is but once again that doesn't work because JK certainly doesn't need to put some kiss on the cheek to convince us that Hermione is very concerned and protective of Harry. I think the fact that she nags him all the time gives that away.
The most popular argument is to show that she is very comfortable with Harry because she doesn't like him that way. That doesn't work either because for that they would have had to set it up like the movie where she'd kiss one but be uncomfortable around the other one. Ron wasn't around at that particular time so that's pure speculation.
The kiss could also have been there to throw the reader off in thinking she likes Harry but she and Ron get together. However, I can't believe if that was the idea that JK would have made Ron's feelings as obvious as she did.
My point therefore is that there was no purpose for that sentence; it came out of left-field and seemed to just be placed there. However, we know that JK never just puts things there which is why I'm convinced that there is some significance to it. A sign that H/H will happen? Maybe not but I don't think people should just dismiss it like they have tried to do.
Someone mentioned Hermione kissing Harry after she had spoken to Krum earlier and had that impassive look on her face. People believe that maybe Krum made her see something about her feelings. That thought is not so far off. I mean he confronted Harry because he was suspicious; so he could have done the same thing to Hermione. Just a thought. My main point though is that I don't think people should dismiss Hermione kissing Harry so easily. That was there for a reason and I'm sure we'll find out what if BK.5 ever comes out.
Btw, I always got the sense that Draco and Pansy were actually together but I could be wrong.

Okay I finally read that oh-so long piece at the SugarQuill about Hermione not being the girl for Harry. I'm curious to know if Bluemagic and Angua are the same person. Off topic I know; but I saw MANY of the same things Blue has written in that article and I'm just curious.

I don't think so... I read the profiles and Blue is supposed to be from Germany, while Angua is a 40 year old from texas... but hey you never know. :shrug:

Originally Posted by lleyki
Btw, I always got the sense that Draco and Pansy were actually together but I could be wrong.


You know I was, too. But maybe he's just getting a real kick out of the attention. I feel pretty confident that those two will end up together.

Nah, Blue copy and paste them in her message to give a point that Hermione is not right for Harry. Because on that Sugar Quill thing, there is a lot there to read, and sometimes, she remembers some and subconsiously re-writes them here!!!

Ok, going back to something on the last page about who Draco was going to hook up with...

Who freaking cares? Draco is the 'bad guy,' why should we try to match him with who is 'perfect' for him? If I was JK Rowling, I'd make Draco die sad and alone with all the money he inherited from his Daddykins. That's as much as he deserves, anyway. He's mean! And cruel! And stuck-up! Who cares if he's happy?! Stick him with Pansy Parkinson if she'll make him absolutely miserable, lol.

And the Draco/Ginny thing? I don't think I've heard something more sick in my entire life! That is just sick and wrong and horrible! And I don't even want to THINK about it!

Ok, sorry about that...the whole Draco thing just kind of rubs me the wrong way :D

lol, well, i love Draco, and it matters to some people... just leave it alone
but yea; that Draco Ginny thing.. that IS sick and very wrong!!!

I have to say a lot, so my post is goign to take up a few posts. :wacky:

First off, i am a ron/hermione shipper and a harry/ginny shipper.
In book four ron is very jealous of krum for going to the yule ball with hermione, and when krum and hermione are talking at the end of book four ron keeps trying to see what they are doing. He also broke the figurine krum's arm, and stared at hermione through the entire yule ball. hermione may have gone to the ball with krum to make ron jealous, or to get him to notice her. *Remember their fight after the yule ball? Hermione says something like, "Well if it makes you so mad then next time why dont you ask me first instead of as a last resort?"
Hermione's name origin is associated with greek mythology: hermione was a girl who was torn between two men. This MAY be ron/krum, which is obvious, or it could be ron/harry. even if it is harry, i think that they have too strong of a friendship to become involved with eachother in a different way. ron needs someone like hermione, and if hermione ended up with harry, ron and harry's friendship would be practically over.

the kiss at the end of book four:
this could clearly mean many things, but i firmly believe that it shows that hermione is especially concerned with harrys well being, considering what happened in that past year. It shows a very strong friendship between them, and how much hermione cares about him. Although harry did notice that this was a first, he did not seem to be lovestruck afterwards.
As for harry and cho, cho is obviously grieving for cedric, and because of what happened with cedric and harrys involvement in it, it would make a relationship between them very awkward. Besides, cho is a year above harry, and we only would have 2 more books left with Cho in them. JK also stated that everybody is in love with the wrong person. This probably pretains to harry and cho, along with others.
Ginny: I know that many of you think that ginny is not the right type of person for harry, but we hardly know her. She is going to be 14 in the next book, and harry will be just one year above her. She is obviously maturing (because we saw how she would actually TALK to harry in book 4) although many people believe that this is because she does not like harry any more. I think that harry is going to notice that ginny is growing up, and he wont just see her as rons baby sister anymore. Harry and Ginny also have the incident in the chamber of secrets between them. Harry saving her life is just too important for people to forget, especially when ginny was all goggle-eyed over him.
(Also, in the next books, for the person who is supposed to die, it will not be ginny, as rowling said that she will play more of a role. However, i believe that Mr. or Mrs. weasley will die, or maybe one of the older brothers. Harry may then notice ginny, because she will become a very strong person.) *Just a theory*
Pansy and Draco: I think this is a possiblility. They both are in slytherin, and draco took pansy to the yule ball in their fourth year.

I also noticed that many of you think that harry should be a loner, because he needs to stay alert of voldy, and because it would break too many 10 year old girls' hearts. But really, harry needs love, especially because he has never really known his parents, who loved him very dearly.


I would like to remind everybody that these are just my guesses, and hopes, but i am open to any opinions. :)

ps- im new, and i love the mugglenet forums :p :wow:

i believe that it shows that hermoine is more cncerned than ever, she got so upset when he nearly died, so did everyone..but still. i dont think that harry and hermoine are going to hook up, therefore i am not a h/h shipper, but i think it would be wiicked if they did!

if you do remember that in the 4th book krum was always trying to draw attentiion to himselfbeacause hermoine was too busy worrying about harry, not once was it ron though..the 2nd task..hermoine was congraluating harry, lots of other instances too!

p.s~ i just joined not too long ago also...nimbus2006 this place is awseome..but bak on track.....i really want to know who will hook up with who, as JKR said.......... that there will be some relationships!!

Nimbus and Danswitch just to telll you dont double post the modertors dont like that! Nimbus you can fit all that in one post(look at some thinks Ame, lleyki and Bluemagic:D (specially Blue) say)And you will see that you can fit all that in! Also if yoy need to add something press the button edit!:D don't worry I made the same mistake!

Danswitch-isnt there a site were you can view HP nicknames? I was there but now i forget:angry: do you know it?

Why don't some one create a poll and we go and vote?

I do not know how to create polls.

i'm srry...i forgot to put that into it..i wont do that anymore :-|

yea we should start a poll...!!! lets just all put in your we'll count em up!??

Danswitch its O.K! everyone does it probably at the beginning no wrys!

okay!! thanks, i just dont want to be thrown out! hehehe. thanks for tellin me!

do you think harry should go alone..or go out with anyone???? i wan to start a vote thing..lol, which type of shipper are you? H/H? H/R? H/G? H/C?

me... a H/C shipper...
and a Her/R shipper too :) hee

I'm not opposed to most 'ships except Harry/Cho, Draco/Hermione and Draco/Ginny. Pretty much anything else would just lovely for me. I really like H/H but I like R/H too. I think H/G could be done very nicely too. I don't like H/C because of the weirdness factor after Cedric is killed. I just don't see Draco hooknig up with Hermione or Ginny. While I don't think he is completely irredeemable, he's still scum.

Well said, LL!!
I still think R/H, not sure about H/, possibly G, possibly other or C, need more character development for anyone to be w/Harry. Also, Hagrid/Olympe, Dobby/Winky, Draco/Pansy, Snape/?? he Needs someone!

no he doesn't.. he can marry his hair *snape*

Oh, but he'd be so much fun to watch falling for, then getting together with somone...imagine how it might change his personality, all mellowed out.... ;)

haha..well now u mention it.. i wonder if he would be nicer to everyone and like zone in and out of focus during class and sighing loudly.. LOL!!!!! that really WOULD be fun!!!!!! :D:D:D

:lol: I'm sorry, I just had a very funny image pop in my head: Snape sitting on a chair with his elbows on the counter, plucking the petals from a daisy, saying "she loves me, she loves me not..." :p

*shudder*

Hello to all! Happy holidays! Before I start something else(to those who are new here on the baord), I want to point out that the way I understood HP books specifically book 4 , Harry and Hermione are very platonic friends and something’s going on BETWEEN Ron and Hermione. I will say again that the key word here is BETWEEN so it means two way ;) And there’s a “Harry and Ginny� possibility.
I will say it again that it’s not a question for me with whom my favorite characters will end up with. I like all the HP characters because JKR created them wonderfully. If some will say that to be a true fan of HP is accepting the fact that a certain character (let’s say Harry since he’s the hero here) can be paired with anybody. I respect that opinion . But I do have different perception of a TRUE fan of HP. For me, a TRUE fan of HP is accepting the fact what the author , JKRowling had decided to the faith of Harry and “still� be happy and amazed how beautifully she writes the HP books.

Anyway,I believe that one of the reasons of every author who writes a book is not only to publish and people to buy it but also “to read it with understanding.�
I don’t think JKR is an exception to this. Many of you may have noticed that my opinions are always supported by JKR statements (and these statements were TRULY made by JKR herself and not by someone else’s said statements or comments. I’ve mentioned before in my previous post that I am a firm believer of RESPONSIBLE journalism.)

Ok! Where am I leading to?
If I’m a reader and I have my own perception of the book(in this case the romances topic) and I don’t have any idea what the author, JKR’s comments on romances in her books, I’m sure I will not feel bothered. As Lleyki said, we see the book as we see it.
But in this case, it’s different. The author, JKR is giving the readers statements concerning the romances in her books.
Personally, I feel relieved and satisfied that after knowing JKR’s statements concerning the romances in her books is also “the same way� I perceived the book.. It’s a good feeling for me as a reader since I actually get what she’s trying to imply in her books when romances are concern. I will somewhat feel “disappointed� if my perception is somewhat opposite with JKR’s comments or if I will find some “loopholes� in her books. If I believe that she’s a very good writer and every scenes in her books depicting the main plot and other sub-plots, all should “blend� harmoniously without any space of doubt. It just simply means, there’s an idea that JKR showing me in her books but I can’t actually still recognize it. And I should find it. Honestly, since I started reading all her valid interviews, she gave me larger perspective as a HP reader and at the same I somehow know a part of her. She mentioned in her biography “Harry Potter and Me� that we can see her childhood memories in her HP books.

If some will say that JKR is giving us “some little lies�. I truly doubt that. First, it doesn’t serve the purpose of writing a book.To surprise us? I don’t think so also. We are just surprise because there are some informations running around thinking that those statements actually made by JKR herself. And when we read the books it’s totally different. So, we may conclude that she’s lying to us. I was almost victimized and misled by those “false� statements that is why I promised myself to “scrutinize� the informations first and check it’s validity before believing and spreading the word..

I believe if JKR is giving us hints or statements, she’s just simply leading us the way how to perceive the book for our “better understanding� but not to the point of ruining the entire book plots.

I’ve found some statements from JKR explaining herself concerning about false statements and misconceptions of her statements:We can see that she has no intention of misleading the readers or to lie to her readers. .

JKR live in the studio in Boston (Connection World program)
(This was aired BEFORE the released of GOF)

How do rumors like this get started?

Because I answer questions honestly and then they get posted on the internet. Someone said to me ‘Is anyone going to die?’ and I said ‘Yeah, there are going to be deaths’ and the next thing you know, there were rumors flying everywhere that I was about to murder Ron in Book 4. You know, these things get blown up.


From BBC – Lizo (This interview is done AFTER the released of GOF)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/tv_film/newsid_1634000/1634400.stm
JK interview Part 2 - Themes and tales
Updated 23 October 2002
LIZO:Do you find it's a worry that you can say one thing in a conversation somewhere, say something else in an interview somewhere, and people will put all these facts together and draw conclusions that are eerily close to what you're going to do in the books?
JKR: Mostly what's happened is that people have put together something I've said, something they like to think I said, something someone else said - which is completely false - and drawn completely the wrong conclusions. That's inevitable, that just happens. But no one yet has guessed what's going to happen or come anywhere close in fact.

Let me give you a perfect example for this involving JKR’s statements and something someone else said:. HELLO SPRINGY!!!
When the biography of JKR : “Harry Potter and Me� aired sometime last year, there were articles came out based from her biography. In that biography she talked about more "boy-girl stuff" when romances in her books are concern. She DIDN’T specify any specific couples.(Yes! The biography is again FRESH in my memory because it was aired yesterday here in Germany.and Guess what? It came to my attention again when she mentioned that we can find her “childhood memories� in her HP books. Hmm…hmm she gave me an idea. I have to analyze something )

Anyway, the worst thing about the articles which came out after the airing of this biography, some journalists who are NOT responsible enough included their own interpretation or predictions of book 5 in such a way that there is a space for misunderstanding for the readers. Meaning, the readers will initially think that the said information is directly from JKR’s lips. I am talking about the articles containing� Harry dating a member of his Quidditch team and Harry will take more of an interest in Hermione'. These informations are NOT directly from JKR as I’ve mentioned she DIDN’T specify any specific couples in that biography. I was almost misled by these informations and I really hate it. I felt like being deprived from truth and being fooled. I believe, as a reader, I deserve the right news whatever the topic is. At the same time, they’re somehow ruining JKR’s credibility. When I read the “Harry dating a member of his Quidditch team� from someone else said statement, I was “almost� thinking about Angelina, Katie or even considering Ginny joining the Quidditch team. I can’t include Cho as one of my choices since she’s NOT a member of Harry’s Quidditch team. As for “Harry will take more of an interest in Hermione' from someone else said statement gave me much more doubt since I read and hear JKR’s consistent answer regarding the relationship of Harry and Hermione. She stated already that Harry and Hermione are very Platonic friends. Anyway, The “false� informations came to my attention when I read other articles stating completely different content. If JKR indeed stated those informations there should be NO variation in versions of JKR words..Good thing that I’ve found an article in BBC written by a very RESPONSIBLE journalist. and it was clearly written without any space for misunderstanding for the readers. The journalist clearly separated what actually JKR had said and what he/she thinks of the books.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/uk/newsid_1726000/1726935.stm

Actually, I don’t blame the readers believing these false informations concerning Harry dating a member of his Quidditch team and Harry will take more of an interest in Hermione but the journalists who wrote them. They didn’t write it clearly but then clever enough NOT to quote these informations.This only explains that the said informations are not from JKR but just their own interpretation. They’re somehow ruining JKR’s credibility. It’s really disappointing. The worst thing I can think of, since these “false�informations keep roaming around on the net and some people are still naïve about the validity of these informations, these false informations will somehow look like true informations especially to those who are new to HP world..
To those who are misled by this false informations, it’s up to you to continue to believe this. I’ve made my explanation. I’m just being honest.But if you’re a kind of person who doesn’t like to be deprived by truth and believe in Responsible journalism , you should start not believing this information now.

Here’s another misconception from the readers:

Lizo: Is this your idea of Hermione lightening up as you've said before?
JKR: No she will.
Lizo:She didn't seem that light to me she was quite radical.
JKR: Yeah, she's a good girl Hermione. I agree with you she's not that light in this book but people made the mistake - when I was writing book four - of assuming that my answers related to book four, there are another three books to go.
But in some ways Hermione has - she's more of a rule breaker now, where her convictions are concerned she's prepared to do stuff that she's really not supposed to. So, in that sense, she will lighten up, I promise you, I did in the end.

To those who are aware of JKR interviews, normally,she often speaks about her FUTURE books not unless she wants to specify something and mentioning a particular book.
As you can see, I am seriously taking her statements because I don’t want to mislead myself and think something else.
Let’s have JKR qoutes concerning romances in her books to explain what I mean.

From Barnes & Noble Web Site Chat with JK Rowling ( September 8, 1999)
(This interview was done after the release of PoA... .meaning BEFORE the released GOF)
quote:
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Question: Dear Ms. Rowling, I'd like to ask if there would be a lot of romances between the characters in the upcoming books?
JKR: "Good question. I'm having so much fun writing Book 4 because for the first time Harry, Ron, and Hermione are starting to recognize boys and girls as boys and girls. Everyone is in love with the wrong people. Let no one say my books lack realism".
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The question concerns the future of trio's lovelife and JKR mentioned specifically book 4. If I will interpret it….The wrong people suggests to me - Fleur for Ron, Krum for Hermione and Cho for Harry.

From Oct. 20, 1999 National Press Club Author's Luncheon
(This interview was done after the release of PoA... meaning BEFORE the released GOF)
quote:
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Question: Do Harry and Hermione go on a date?
JKR. "No. They're very platonic friends. But I won't answer for anyone else!" Nudge nudge, wink wink
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You may listen to the interview to hear how "STRAIGHT-FORWARD" JKR answered this. No ifs and buts Since this was asked before GOF and the question is in "future tense" and didn't indicate which book she's referring to .Meaning, the reply was suited starting from GOF up to book 7. So, We should not be expecting "any" indication of H/Hness in GOF book. They`re VERY Platonic friends. It means, ABSENCE of romance or attraction.

The "But I won't answer for anyone else" means there will be a couple which is not Harry and Hermione who will go on a date and since we haven't encountered any dating yet in GOF so the indication here, JKR's WHOLE reply, “they’re very platonic friends. But I won’t answers for anyone else� is meant for the FUTURE books.. up to book 7 or should I say until the book that there will be a couple dating meaning (Harry and ?) &( Hermione and ?.)

THANK YOU....Apples!!! for the link
http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/exrad/991020.jkrowling.ram

I will say it again here, that for me , it’s not a question of which characters I’ve wanted to be paired up but accepting whole-heartedly what the author , JKRowling had decided to the faith of Harry and other HP characters and “still� be happy and amazed how beautifully she writes the HP books. As I write this, I just want also to express that JKR has no intention to lie and mislead the readers :) As I’ve said, it doesn’t serve the purpose of writing:)If we're in doubt of her words regarding the status of relationships of the characters, it just simply means that there's an idea in her books that we haven't seen it yet;)That is why we're here to discuss what is this idea she's trying to show us;)

Thank you for bearing with me .I understand I always have long post and many readers can’t bear my long post. But as much as possible, I want to express myself clearer and I’m trying to avoid misconception.And I am poor in summarization.
P.S: Lleyki Ame, Springy, Sarah4HP!!!Hello! Just to inform you that I am not angua who wrote �Why Hermione is not the right girl for Harry�. I’m just a believer of responsible journalism and an ordinary but very careful reader who appreciates/reads any journalistic and literary works but I am NOT a good writer.:) I can’t write something very intelligently like that though I STRONGLY believe and agree all the argumtents being presented there. They are very well supported.
Lleyki and Ame! My post explaining how I perceive the romances in book 4 is almost coming up .I’m trying to make it clearly as possible so there will be no room for misunderstanding. Hope you can still wait.Thank you

Have a nice day to all of you.(I’m still sick! Yaiks!)

I love your long post blue. It is always a joy to read them!!! Yeah, I knew you didn't write those articles blue!!! :smile:

Happy to know you didn't write that article Blue because no offence to the writer or anyone who thinks it's a great piece of journalism; but that's one of the most ridiculos articles I've ever read. There were so many things wrong and inaccurate in the article. Also, a number of times incidents were made up in a certain way to back up the writer's point. I'm not going to go into detail because some people might be confused never having read the article. So sorry if I've confused anyone; just had to say that.
Oh in response to your post Blue about the stories and articles floating around. First off; that's the nature of celebrity, some journalists who have no integrity for their profession will manipulate things as they want to. There are times when someone actually does an interview with the journalist but when the article comes out it's all the journalist's perception. That's why I've never paid attention to ANY of these JK interviews. The only things I've watched were her biography and an interview she did on the Today Show while promoting GOF. Personally; unless she is going to say what exactly will happen in the upcoming books(which will never happen) I see no reason to. Also, while she doesn't lie she's never obvious either. An example of what I mean; so many people love to use the " Harry and Hermione are purely platonic friends but I won't speak for anyone else" as proof of Ron/Hermione. That confuses me though because unless these three are the only ones in the book; that is no actual proof of R/H. For one thing, she could be referring to putting a relationship between one of the twins and someone else; a relationship by a teacher, etc. Besides from what I gather that interview was upon the release of POA and unless I'm mistaken Harry started liking Cho in that book.
Look at how so many people were worried about who was going to die in GOF because she said there would be a death; and it turned out to be Cedric. I mean while it was a tragedy, we didn't exactly know Cedric did we; and I'll bet a number of readers thought it was going to be someone really important. My point is JK is like so many authors who answers but never really gives anything away. I mean what would be the fun in that? Also, I get the sense that she only answers questions on specifics of a particular book not ones to come. Again that's typical and smart. Keeps things interesting. Therefore; unless JK has done a full recent interview concerning the upcoming book; I see nothing specific except that a few more people will die because again that was straight out of her mouth. (London Premiere in case anyone was curious).

well, now that people are worring who will die is understandable because she said it would be a MAIN CHARACTER *but not Ron/Hermione tho* so we will know the person, and therefore, it will be hard to write/read for us..... it won't be like the death of Cedric, because we didn't really know him, he wasn't a big main character.. soo.. considering that, most people that ARE owrring at this point have the right to worry! :) ok? here is a fact....

One of the main characters, one of Harry's "fans" will die (not Ron or Hermione though). The death will be "horrible to write."

i personally having said this so many times...think that HAGRID will die ! :D

Umm Slytherin I think you misread me. I said that I bet people were worried when they knew someone was going to die in GOF and it turned out to only be Cedric. I know someone important is going to die this time; that's what I said in the end, that that's the only thing we are sure about, that there'll be more deaths because I saw her say it. Yes people should be concerned this time.:)

hehehhe ooppssiiiee:sorry: :sorry: sorry about that :)
but yea, i wanna know who it is, but i don't really in a way

BlueMagic, I love reading your notes...not to worry about the length! As if I should speak of length!!
I don't think anyone here would accuse or consider JKR to be intentionally lying...dropping hints that people need to think about, & draw their own conclusions...that may have different interpretations, given different prople's thought processes, is a clever thing that adds spice...I do think she does that, both in her books & her interviews!

Yes, it can be a concern when an article is written in a way that I or others are lead to believe one thing was said, when it really wasn't said like that or with that meaning. I'm no way famous, and even I've been misquoted by a journalist and a politician (at different times). I think we've all been there & understand not to believe all we hear or read. Kinda like Rita Skeeter. It is sad tho', when we become so jaded that we simply won't talk to newswriters due to poor journalism, when there appear to be those still existing--like you-- who strive to honestly represent what was said, not put your own slant into it!! Would there were more like you, & less of the other!! :)

Thanks for the excellent link to npr!

I think Snape's being 'nice' to Draco is just a matter of politics. He knows who his father is, fellow DeathEater, and he knows that Lucius could cause him serious problems. Notice he refers to Malfoy by his last name, there's a seething dislike.

I've heard speculation that Hermione and Snape would get together. She does have a few years before she is a grown-up. What about Snape and Skeeter? But, if Snape is indeed a vampire, then his redemption may not be due to falling in love, but due to his death....peace at last.

Hermione and Draco seem the more logical pair to me. They despise each other a little too much. Sorta like the little boy who pulls the hair of the girl not because he dislikes her, but because he does like her.

Should be interesting, but I don't look for the story to focus too intensely on love relationships.

Originally posted by Ninya
Hermione and Draco seem the more logical pair to me. They despise each other a little too much. Sorta like the little boy who pulls the hair of the girl not because he dislikes her, but because he does like her.

I dunno about this one. You bring up a good point, Ninya - Draco seems to focus obsessively on Hermione and Mudbloods a bit too much: a lot like Coulter's "persecution" of liberals. They protest a great deal too much, methinks.

However, (and this is not a put-down on Hermione) where's the attraction for Draco? He doesn't strike me as the type who would value intelligence, strength, tenacity and all the rest of it. So what *WOULD* he like Hermione for? :??:

Well, she IS starting to look like a babe...

But, I don't think he'd ever go for Hermione. She's just not his type...he wants to get his dad's approval sooo much.
And, as I've said before, while I can see the politically expedient side, and firmly believe that's Part of it, I also think that Snape is trying to give Draco something important that it looks like he doesn't get at home: positive regard. I think he sees a kindred spirit & is honestly trying to help him.

Hermione is smarter than Draco, thats something Draco cannot have. He needs someone he can control and manipulate.

And dominate

I do not believe in this theory either. There is too much hatred between them. By the way I would think Hermione would think of Harry and Ron before she did anything as drastic as "going" with Malfoy. It just cannot be.

Liars Prosper.
-anonymous

Hermione and Draco can't...seriously...

Hermione would never let herself into it, Draco will want his father's approval, and anyway she's a muggle-born, Luicius will never think she's "good enough" for him.

and Hermione is friend to Harry, and Harry is Draco's arch rival, and if hermione does go with him, Harry and Draco would have to accept that connection. it would ruin everything

They hate each other so much, and no, not in this case, opposites don't attract!! Never will JKR write bout it...hopefully

I couldn't have said it better, go_anna. :) There is too much against them for them to fall in love.

If there is any "romance" involved between the two, I'd be willing to bet that one of them would be using the other for some other purpose than dating. For example, Draco would use Ginny to get close to her and then do something horrible to humilate her or her family.

yeah, their "romance" is against the odds, and anyway, if they did, they would more likely keep it a secret and someone will then find out, and it'll spell diaster.

but i doubt it.

I seriously think that if Draco and Herimone got together, I would stop reading it would be so very wrong...

*cringes at the thought*

Hermione deserves so much better than Draco. And Draco only thinks he deserves someone better than Hermione!

Draco deserves himself, all you need to do is stick him infront of a mirror and away he goes...

:rotfl:

He's so awful! He'd probably see himself in the Mirror of Erised if he ever took a look in it...

he would see himself serving Voldie

No he would see himself more powerful than Voldemort and everyone serving him!!

Like I said before....who freaking cares who Draco will hook up with?

I dislike him very much, and as far as I'm concerned, he can die sad and alone with all the money he inherited from his rich Daddykins.

I also will stop reading the books if Draco 'hooks up' with any semi-normal character. I will send letters of hate to JK Rowling's house if she even THINKS of doing anything remotely similar. :D

The only person that I think would be perfect for Draco is Pansy Parkison. She'd be easy enough to control, at least for Draco anyway. She already likes him, you can tell. Plus they're both openly evil and they hate Harry...what a perfect match! :D

Malfoy RULES!!!!!!!!!!! :censored: :angry: :rasp:

I believe that Draco will as you all say "hook up" with someone. It will take away something that Harry felt very dear. If not for the reason to flaunt it in front of Harry, which seems a favorite pastime of the Slytherin House. It will make Draco a more potent enemy to Harry, I see this in the cards.
I believe also that Harry will learn that there are some in the Slytherin House that are not so evil. Slytherin students can be very great allies, I think we will see this in the upcoming books. JKR said that Harry must choose between good and evil. This can only be done by embracing the Dark Side.
Harry will find a friends from the house that all Therin are Sly.

"Join me on the Dark Side"
Darth to Luke? or Malfoy to Harry?

So you think the hero of a what is predomently a child book saga will use the evil side of people? Jeeez why not just give some more ammunition to the religious zealeots to throw around that HP is bad :D

You don't have to embrace the dark side. Believe me there are things in life NOT worth experiencing. How about using common sense? You don't have to kill someone to know it isn't for you for example.

Originally posted by Fuchsia
You don't have to embrace the dark side. Believe me there are things in life NOT worth experiencing.

Exactly! You know that drugs are bad for your body without getting hooked on them for 8 months of your life...

Yes!! I am a firm believer in not experiencing everything.
Prison? No way. I learn from the mistakes of others instead.

okay, well bak on track and not about draco, lol no offense slytherinchick, i like him too, (where would the books b w/out him, lol harry needs an enemy, all good books have them..anyhow)..lol...


I wish harry and hermoine would hook-up..they're totally perfect for each other, anyhow... i really dont think that will happen, but i think ron and hermoine will hook-up. or is that too obiious?! hhhmmm

any suggestions???

yeah.. i think ron will 'hookk up' wif hermione.. but then they break up n then they get back together.. n i bet they will liek argue like a lot

Can you please spell properly on the boards? I find your use of the english language... disturbing.

*kicks the ground nervously* Don't upset lani, you'll pay for it later, trust me :D

Anyway...Oddfellow, why would anyone that Harry holds dear go with Draco anyway? There aren't many girls that Harry really 'holds dear.' Unless you are implying that Ron and Draco will get together :D hehe I'm only kidding. I don't really see what you mean, though. I suppose it is possible...with a Love Potion or something...but I just don't see it happening.

I honestly wouldn't mind Draco being alone for the rest of his life...but we all know that that won't happen. His lack of decent personality certainly won't lure any girls his way. Of course, his family's high social status and fortune might. :rasp:

Ahhh money, the true way to a girls heart...

Well, some girls! Not any decent ones, though :smile:

I have yet to meet a decent girl then, all of them want me for my money :(

Anyway: Harry & Cho. Yes or No?

:D Well lani, you have more than just money! I'm sure money wasn't the ONLY reason they liked you.

I think Harry and Cho will go on a dat but she'll turn out to be a person Harry didn't think she was. I won't go into too much detail here because I've posted this thought already. Not a long-term relationship though, just a date.

I am definately for the Ron/Hermione relationship- the awkward moment in the COS movie-that pretty much convinced me that there is something going on. Some may say Hermione and Draco... but it is too much fun having them hate eachother. There is chemistry between Hagrid and Madame Maxime (obviously), and I am pretty sure we will see that in book five.
I don't think that Draco and Pansy Parkinson will get together- just because they went to the Yule Ball together doesn't necessarly mean anything.
I think it would be very cute if Ginny got together with Neville.
Right now, I can't really imagine Harry having a "girlfriend." I don't think the Cho Chang thing will be carried into book five, and I also doubt the Harry/Ginny rumoured relationship. Although, that is a very good possibility for books in the future.....