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SeniorFishy January 14th, 2003, 4:07 am I don't think that the book will spend too much time on boy/girl stuff. I think this book is going to be emotionful but will be more dark and have more death in it than anyother. It will have too much fear and worry to really construct any decent bonds between the main characters. Harry will be constantly reminded that Voldemort is trying to kill him, the teachers are probably gonna keep extra pair of magical eyes on Harry at all times and he really won't have any time for any relationships.
I also believe that Hermione and Ron will be busying themselves trying to keep Harry's mind off such dreadful thoughts and especially if Harry has more dreams or headaches from his scar burning. I do think that Ron may finally reveil his feelings for Hermione but she might reject Ron and play it off as a joke, but we won't see a couple between any of the three.
If H/H or H/R happened it would just be too wierd to write the story mainly because either Ron or Harry would be left alone. I do not see their friendship take a back seat to other lustful feelings. Harry needs both Ron AND Hermione in the upcoming book.
that is all.
go_anna40 January 14th, 2003, 5:52 am A Draco/Hermione relationship? You've been reading way too many fanfics...:p
Ame January 14th, 2003, 5:58 am I don't think there will be a lot of focus on romantic relationships in book 5, there will probably be awkward memoments and hinting here and there, but nothing real solid. I've said it before, I am all for Ron and Hermione, but nothing will be finalised until the 6th or 7th book...
At least in my opinion...
go_anna40 January 14th, 2003, 6:04 am Originally posted by Ame
I don't think there will be a lot of focus on romantic relationships in book 5, there will probably be awkward memoments and hinting here and there, but nothing real solid. I've said it before, I am all for Ron and Hermione, but nothing will be finalised until the 6th or 7th book...
At least in my opinion...
i agree...too much romance is gonna make it sloppy.
the best place for romance is after the end of Voldie's uprising.
lanifiel January 14th, 2003, 6:05 am Or right before Voldemort kills Harry's love, I want to see Harry go nuts for a bit...
go_anna40 January 14th, 2003, 6:07 am like a rage attack? like Obi-Wan in Phantom Menace?
lanifiel January 14th, 2003, 6:09 am Sure, works for me :D
Ame January 14th, 2003, 6:14 am Lani... hasn't Harry been through enough? :shrug: I'd hate to see him snap after losing the one he loves. Though... then again... it might be exciting. OMG, :wow: Lani... I think you're actually starting to influence me... *falls over*
Anyway, I'd hate for too much teenage romance to be displayed in the next book. It would too much like a 90210 rerun. *shudders* Besides, this next book marks the beginning of the end. There's too much to be done to add a lot of teenage drama.
BTW, Lani I Love your pic of Fred and George. The twins are absolutely hilarious... ;)
SeniorFishy January 14th, 2003, 7:27 am Cedric already died because he was caught between Voldemorts rage against Harry. Even though they weren't best friends I believe that Harry and Cedric were becoming something of pals and at the very least understood each other. I'm not sure if Harry blames himself for his death or is angered that an innocent lost their life when it wasn't neccesary but I do not think that Voldemort could effectively hurt Harry by killing a new girlfriend or a loved one.
The people Harry loves the most are already dead and he already has shown some composure to be able to hold himself back from doing something completely stupid. (think of his tempers against Sirius before the truth was revealed) I do not think Harry would lose control like Ron seems to do when even the tiniest things anger him.
Ash_Key January 14th, 2003, 7:54 am Hmm... how `bout Ginny and Colin (If he survive book 5...)? Ginny was really distraught when Colin's been petrified. They even sit next to each other during Charms...
...Wait, maybe they just discussing aboutthe Harry Potter fan club... Gah, just forget everything I said up there.... :rasp:
lanifiel January 14th, 2003, 8:15 am Ginny was distraught becasuse she had just caught on that she was responsbile for what the Monster in the Chamber was doing...
Ash_Key January 14th, 2003, 8:29 am Oh yaa...... but I really wish they get together or something... So she can stay away from Harry!! *evil laugh* Mwahahahahaha!!
BTW, I *heart* your sig, lani.
Ame January 14th, 2003, 8:45 am Colin and Ginny... I never thought of that before. It would be the makings of the first ever Hogwarts Harry Potter fan club. But I don't think Colin will take any notice of Ginny. I wouldn't be surprised of Neville developed a crush on Ginny though... seeing how she did accompany him to the Yule Ball. But it would probably be short-lived... comical... but short.
Ash_Key January 14th, 2003, 8:52 am Hmm... Neville and Ginny... that's cute, though. C'mon, give Neville a chance!
ÐÕbBŸ January 14th, 2003, 10:46 am Heres what I think:
Ron and Hermione
Harry and Ginny
Fred and Alicia
Hagrid and Madame Maxime
um yeah, I think harry and Ginny cause JK Rowling said HArry will be with someone whos been in all books, and thats Ginny cause Cho was only introduced in the third book, what do ya think?
ÐÕbBŸ vs §mÉ@gÓL!
SaRaH 23 HP January 14th, 2003, 12:08 pm Originally posted by ÐÕbBŸ
Heres what I think:
Ron and Hermione
Harry and Ginny
Fred and Alicia
Hagrid and Madame Maxime
um yeah, I think harry and Ginny cause JK Rowling said HArry will be with someone whos been in all books, and thats Ginny cause Cho was only introduced in the third book, what do ya think?
I agree!! Also Ginny has been so loyal to Harry:bow:!! And also Harry even if he DID go out wid Cho they wouldn't be a good match:no:
1.He dosen't know alot about her(like the type of family she comes from)
2.She still might be grieving for Cedric
3. They just don't seem to um...fit together
Here are some reasons WHY he should go out wid Ginny:D
1. He knows alot about her family
2.She has always been loyal to him
3.She is goin to be more mature in this book
Becky January 14th, 2003, 1:37 pm Since I am the typical "Hermione" I can safely say that she will fall for Ron rather than Harry, Draco, or even Neville. Ron and Hermione have intense chemistry; Harry and Hermione do not. Ron defends Hermione, whereas Malfoy calls her "a filthy little mudblood". Ron is extremely strategic and intelligent, qualities that Hermione respects; Neville is a below average student in every way. However, Neville did have the guts to ask her to the Yule Ball and Ron acted like a jerk. Even with Ron's idiocy at the Ball, Hermione still cared to tell him that it bothered her that he thought of her as a "last resort". Actually she screamed at him for it. If that doesn't say "You're it" I don't know what does.
Harry is a bit more complicated. Ginny Weasley has loved him forever, but he hardly notices her. Cho Chang shows up for a quidditch match and he's head over feet. Boys! Whatever the case, I hope JK Rowling gives Harry to Ginny, if anyone deserves him, she does. We all know what it is like to love someone that can't or won't love us in return. I hope Ginny gets the fairytale. Does anyone else despise Cho Chang? I feel like she's taking Harry from us...but I'm a nut.
PineFresh January 14th, 2003, 3:14 pm They're probably going to mention 3 or 4 tiny little things, and we will have discovered that we have so much spare time on our hands that it's not even funny. :D Then I'll have to give up these boards and take up golfing.
SeniorFishy January 14th, 2003, 5:32 pm When Hermione gets mad at Ron for thinking of her as a last resort, I think that is something that totally ruined the whole thing for Hermione. I bet that seriously ****** her off and because of it, H/R cannot happen.
Xikum January 14th, 2003, 10:41 pm I disagree. She said, "Next time....". She wouldn't have said that if she meant for it to be over before it even got a chance to get started. I believe that she really was trying to give the clueless a clue!! You don't bother fighting with someone you don't care about.
snaperules January 14th, 2003, 11:31 pm Hermoine/Ron will more than likely happen. There's too many hints in the GOF.
StoicLion January 14th, 2003, 11:44 pm All:
Ok..I'm a newbie to the site but not the the series. I've read all four books and ready to cast my theories into the sea for all to see..
I agree with those who are shooting for a R/H hook-up. Like many have written, Ron's feelings are obvious to all (except maybe Ron, Harry and Hermione) and he needs to realize it before she packs up. Also, as somone wrote, opposites attract. Ron and Hermione push each other's buttons; Ron brings her down to earth and Hermione lifts him up. How many times has Ron protected her or shown affection for her since book 2? Count 'em. Harry tends to just go along with Hermione, except when a top-of-the-line broomstick is at stake.
As for Harry/Ginny, I personally think Ginny will mature and Harry will notice. They both survived a close call with Voldemort, a feat not achieved by many especially those so young. That connection may bring them together. "Alicia Potter" is right, it's too late in the series to really introduce a new character. Here's my theory:
- Ginny will fill in Oliver Wood's spot on the Quidditch team (not as Captain). Harry will notice her physical and mental maturity. He may start to return the feelings she has (if she has them). Ron will notice the chemistry and try to keep them apart, to protect his baby sister.
Ok...let the arguing continue...
Snowangel January 15th, 2003, 12:39 am Ever since the first book, I've been hoping that Hermione and Ron would get together. I have trouble picturing Harry with anyone, though, and I sympathize with those who think that he has too much else to focus on to get involved in a serious relationship with anyone. Furthermore, I can't see him with anyone introduced in the books so far. (By the way, I'm brand new to this forum, so "hello, everybody".)
Oddfellow January 15th, 2003, 1:11 am Welcome Snowangel and StoicLion!
I agree, that it doesn't seem likely that Harry fall in love with any tertiary characters mentioned before book five. Although he may "go out" with someone like he did at the Yule Ball. As far as introducing a new character, I disagree. J.K. Rowling has introduced many Strong/Well Developed characters since Book 1: Lupin, Sirius, Bill, Arthur Weasley, Dobby, Fleur, Krum, Cornelius Fudge. I'm sure there are others.
We must remember that an author creates their own world, Great Authors create their own universes. J.K. is a member of the latter. If she so wishes to create a new character for Harry, it is not very far-fetched.
Liars Prosper.
-anonymous
ToyYoda January 15th, 2003, 2:32 am Harry and Hermione, though right now not the most likey of couples, does seem a better combonation. Despite everything else said (and even if someone has mentioned this piece of argument before, I missed it, so oh well.), Harry and Hermione resemble Harry's parents as a couple very accurately, and from reading the books it seems like Harry has more or less followed in his father's foot steps. Harry was born of wizarding parents (as I assume James was as well). Lily, was born from muggle parents, like - you guessed it - Hermione. Thats my big giant fat clump of evidence from the sink drain. Beyond that, their personalities just seem to match. Remember their little quest to save Sirius from the Kiss? While on Buckbeak, they had a connection that went beyond words in the most desparate of situations. How can anyone argue this? The Ron/Hermione ordeal has to be a crush, for if Harry and Hermione do not get together, the final pages of the books would just be... missing... somthing.
dracofan January 15th, 2003, 2:33 am I agree oddfellow, if jkr writes it , it will be superb.
Oddfellow January 15th, 2003, 2:41 am Thank you Dracofan for your support.
ToyYoda, I have asserted your evidence before. Some people get very angry when someone repeats what has been said. But on the other hand what has not been said yet in this forum?
I know: Farfenuggen!
Ashley Summerlight January 15th, 2003, 5:18 am I don't think that a relationship would happen, I mean Harry Potter is about good vs evil not whose going to get with who, I think the rumours that are circling around are kinda getting out of hand.
lanifiel January 15th, 2003, 5:46 am But JKR has already stated that a relationship will happen, the thing is whether or not it will be as big as we all seem to think...
:lol:
Weatherby January 15th, 2003, 6:23 am Perhaps Harry won't meet the love of his life at all? He'll be 18 when the series ends. How many people find the one at that age?
go_anna40 January 15th, 2003, 6:25 am I agree, look at Catherine Zeta Jones and Michael Douglas...
Ash_Key January 15th, 2003, 6:26 am Ohh.... not that OLD!
Weatherby January 15th, 2003, 6:29 am Are you guys hinting at a Mcgonagal and Harry relationship??
That's sick!
Besides, I heard lanifiel had dibs on her.
Ash_Key January 15th, 2003, 7:06 am *gasp* Really? That Lani!!
lanifiel January 15th, 2003, 7:27 am Hey!! No I dont!! That was a vicious rumor started by Fuchsia!!
Ash_Key January 15th, 2003, 7:32 am No one knows..... *starts singing QOTSA's 'No One Knows'*
Hey lani, how old are you BTW?
lanifiel January 15th, 2003, 7:36 am Why?
Ash_Key January 15th, 2003, 7:39 am Curious. I never see any guy older than me (I'm gonna be 17 this August) is a big fan of HP. They always said HP is just for kids..
lanifiel January 15th, 2003, 7:40 am Well I'm 24, if that says something about me so be it...
go_anna40 January 15th, 2003, 7:40 am yes...curiousity killed the cat :D
Ash_Key January 15th, 2003, 7:41 am *bleeh* I'm still alive... Meow! You're 24? I never thought you're that *old*! hehehe
lanifiel January 15th, 2003, 7:52 am ... thanks :grumble:
Ame January 15th, 2003, 7:55 am A theory... idea... something, I just had to share with you guys...
Harry and Ginny has been accepted more and more in my mind. At first it seemed a little too perfect for my taste. Plus, Ron would freak. But now that I think about it, only two people seem to really fit for Harry.
We have Hermione. This seems quite likely, and I understand why people would go with this. But seeing how JKR actually said that their relationship will not go past platonic... I highly doubt it. Though she would be a good match for Harry. She understands him, cares for him, has been there through thick and thin. So Hermione is a good match...
Now this idea came to me after reading in another thread that Ginny may be the one to die in book 5.
Some say that Harry's love will be in danger of being a target for Voldemort. Now most girls at Hogwarts know that being with Harry is a risk. And most girls don't unerstand the hardships Harry goes through being a target. So I believe whoever Harry is paired with needs to understand that they could be made a target and needs to realize how hard that makes his life. Now what girl comes to mind? Hermione... right? Okay, but there only going to platonic... so who else do you think of...
Personally, I think of Ginny. No other girl has even a remote idea of what Harry goes through. But after being a victim of Tom's mind control and plot, Ginny is probably the only other girl who has a grasp on what Harry's life is like. Not to mention no one but the Weasley family and Hermione really understands how cruel the Dursleys are to Harry. Harry needs a girl who will be able to understand him. Parvati and Lavender are your typical teenage girls too caught up with boys, looks, and divination to bother with Harry. Cho isn't even in the same house so she may have no idea how much danger follows Harry around (Though I bet she has a small idea now...). And any girl who did, probably won't want to be apart of it. Ginny knows... she was once in the middle of it all. So, she'll be able to understand Harry better than any other girl you can think of... aside from Hermione.
I'm not sure if anyone else said this already, but this came to me and now Ginny and Harry seems more possible than ever.
I mean, even after CoS Ginny still has an infatuation for Harry. After an ordeal like that not many girls would want to be bothered with Harry.
Main point: Harry deserves a girl who undestands his life and hardships. Someone who still wants to be with him despite Voldemort. Ginny is that girl. (Though Harry hasn't realized this yet.)
Ash_Key January 15th, 2003, 7:57 am Originally posted by lanifiel
... thanks :grumble:
Aww.... what's with the face? At least you're not as old as.... Michael Douglas. *ducks flying daggers from lani*:p :sorry:
go_anna40 January 15th, 2003, 7:58 am lol...no worries lani, there's people older than you here :D
Ash_Key January 15th, 2003, 8:00 am Err... Ame, those Ginny/Harry possibilities really started to freaking me out...
lanifiel January 15th, 2003, 8:03 am :grumble: :grumble: :grumble:
Thats a good theory Ame, it does make sense, I just hope it doesnt happen...
Ash_Key January 15th, 2003, 8:04 am *prays* Please no. I'm still for Cho and Harry.
lanifiel January 15th, 2003, 8:05 am me to Ash, me too...
Ash_Key January 15th, 2003, 8:08 am *gives cookies to lani*
Ame January 15th, 2003, 8:09 am Thanks Ash_Key and Lani. :D *Feels special...*
Ash_Key January 15th, 2003, 8:11 am :D I think lani's trying to shoot arrows now... Bah! He's not Legolas.:p
*passes the cookie to Ame*
Ame January 15th, 2003, 8:17 am :clappy: *does a little dance* I get a cookie, I get a cookie, I get a cookie... hey... hey... hey... hey!
It's arrows now... *ducks a flying arrow* :wow: Whoa...
Ash_Key January 15th, 2003, 8:23 am *yells*Hey Lani! If you don't stop grumbling you'll be old quicker! And soon you'll look as old as Michael Douglas!... eek! Another arrow's coming!
cannonFan January 15th, 2003, 9:14 am Lani.. you are old!! Wait... I'm 24 too. Gee I'm old!!! :angel:
Note: this was ment to be funny.... ha ha ha... laugh with me now... please?!?!?
SiriusBlack January 15th, 2003, 10:33 am umzzzzzzzzz:sorry: You know, theses years here, like first year, 7th year, confuse me sometimes. Like you cannonfan, you're 24, but when I read the first year word on your name, it makes me feel you're a kid smaller than me.:D
slapps_clemons January 16th, 2003, 12:08 am I believe H/H should end up together in the end but not so soon. I think they should have several relationships before making any real desion on an "exclusive" relationship.
Oddfellow January 16th, 2003, 3:03 am Finally We have an Expiration Date on this thread! June 21, 2003! (Go to the commonroom if you don't believe me) {Post by Arabella}
Oddfellow
SeniorFishy January 16th, 2003, 3:14 am Before we have book6 predictions! atleast we'll have more sources to work with. Maybe we'll find out what that kiss was about and odd no-hug moment was (in the movie).
dracofan January 16th, 2003, 3:16 am WEll, I'll come clean, I'm older thank lani. And I'm just crazy about Harry Potter. So, yes anna40, Harry potter isn't just for the young.
If Harry does go with Ginny, I don't think Ron will be upset, he's always known she had a crush on him and thought it funny.
but, i think harry will be a loner through the series
Kingdom Ops January 16th, 2003, 3:28 am I agree with that slapps clemons. I don't think is going to happen right away. I'm a big believer of Ron and Hermione trying something and then it not working. I don't want to see them together, but yea. I'm all for Harry/Hermione... Though I like the idea of Cho and Harry :D
I don't like the Harry and Ginny combination. I don't like Ginny, I don't know why, but I just don't. I don't like the way she hides everything and how she seems to like Harry but then it just seems likes she's over him in the next book.
Going off of the "Harry will be with someone he's known from all the books" or however that quote goes... I'm all for one of the Gryffindor quidditch girls. He's known them all 4 years at school. I remember there's Katie and Angelina. I can't remember the other chaser. I don't remember (or even if the book said this) what year they are either. You never know...
Ame January 16th, 2003, 5:05 am The Three chaser girls are Angelina, Katie, and Alicia. I considered that too. But I think they are all older than him. At the very least a year. Harry was the only first year on the team when he first started. But I'm not fond of that idea at all. I'd prefer Ginny over one of the Chasers. Besides I think Fred and George should be paired up with one of the chaser girls. Fred w/Angelina and George I'm not exactly sure who.
Lani... without a doubt that pic of Legolas has got to be my favorite of all the pics you have ever used in a sig. Hands down, the best... Words cannot describe how taken I am by that pic. Just plain... wow.
lanifiel January 16th, 2003, 5:10 am Thanks Ame :)
Ash_Key January 16th, 2003, 5:12 am Originally posted by Kingdom Ops
I agree with that slapps clemons. I don't think is going to happen right away. I'm a big believer of Ron and Hermione trying something and then it not working. I don't want to see them together, but yea. I'm all for Harry/Hermione... Though I like the idea of Cho and Harry :D
I don't like the Harry and Ginny combination. I don't like Ginny, I don't know why, but I just don't. I don't like the way she hides everything and how she seems to like Harry but then it just seems likes she's over him in the next book.
Going off of the "Harry will be with someone he's known from all the books" or however that quote goes... I'm all for one of the Gryffindor quidditch girls. He's known them all 4 years at school. I remember there's Katie and Angelina. I can't remember the other chaser. I don't remember (or even if the book said this) what year they are either. You never know...
Yay! Another Harry/Cho supporter! *gives cookies to Kingdom Ops*
Yeah, I don't like Ginny too. And I think it's weird to fall for your best friend's sister. It's like there's no other girls out there! Seriously, just wait 'till you finished school, Harry. *shakes head*
Oh Kingdom Ops, the other chaser is Alicia.;D
Fuchsia January 16th, 2003, 5:15 am The Chasers haven't shown any interest in Harry romantically so far.
Off topic but I think the Elrond avatar is the best that lanifiel has had yet. :)
Ash_Key January 16th, 2003, 5:19 am Darn... that's the best sig lani's ever had...
Ame January 16th, 2003, 5:29 am Yes... Yes... It is Ash_Key... It is!! Lani... did I say I love your sig... :rotfl:
Back on Topic:
I'd go for Cho but she never really showed any romantic interest in him. It just doesn't seem likely, besides I doubt the poor girl will want to date after her experience in the 4th book. In the same way, neither have the Chasers on the team.
In fact all, Angelina, Katie, Alicia, and Cho, seemed to respect Harry as a player and a casual friend. It doesn't go past that.
Ash_Key January 16th, 2003, 5:36 am Just. Don't. Say. It.
Don't say the 'G' word.
lanifiel January 16th, 2003, 5:42 am George? *scratchs head*
SeniorFishy January 16th, 2003, 5:45 am I vote for no-one as Harry's girlfriend. He's gonna have other thinks to do like figuring out what Sirius and Snape are up to and what Dumbledore is doing. I think other characters might have relationships but not Harry.
But I may be wrong, there is still 2 books after OotP to deal with Voldemort. I could never guess what the 6th book was going to be about unless it happened to be a little sidetrack from derailing the Voldemort train and into something different.
Ash_Key January 16th, 2003, 5:53 am Originally posted by lanifiel
George? *scratchs head*
Ginny!!
...Don't tell me I said that.
GahhhhH!!!!
*hit the Bludger towards lani*
Now that I noticed... I'm a second year! Yay!:clappy:
go_anna40 January 16th, 2003, 6:29 am Congrats!!
Well, Ginny should not definately go out with Harry. Seriously, wouldn't Harry feel self-concious about dating his best friend's sis? I think it's quite gross...
Ash_Key January 16th, 2003, 7:24 am Yeah, it's GROSS.
lanifiel January 16th, 2003, 8:10 am I reckon, thats like dating your sister...
Ash_Key January 16th, 2003, 8:38 am Yup yup yup.
Gah!! Where's Legolas????
Ame January 16th, 2003, 8:55 am :'( That's how I feel Ash_Key... no more Legolas.
And yeah, I could understand how dating your bestfriends sister is like dating your own sister. But that's only if you see her in a sisterly way. Harry and Ginny barely even speak to each other... they're hardly friends... so it may nt apply in this case.
Ash_Key January 16th, 2003, 9:06 am Ame, luv your sig. I love URD. She rocks.
And Lani, bring back Legolas in here!!
Ame January 16th, 2003, 9:08 am Thankies Ash_Key! *feels special* :)
Ash_Key January 16th, 2003, 9:13 am hehehe... she's really cool.
Now Lani.. *takes out her wand*
Ame January 16th, 2003, 9:15 am *Stands next to Ash_Key and pulls out her wand* Lani... don't make us use these...
Ash_Key January 16th, 2003, 9:17 am ******
Now we looks like Harry and Ron from the movie.. And lani... Lockhart. Fit!
lanifiel January 16th, 2003, 9:32 am Why am I always associated with the dead beats and rejects of a situation?
Ame January 16th, 2003, 9:41 am Lani... please don't be so angry :(. She didn't mean it like that...
DarlingChild January 16th, 2003, 9:36 pm I don't think Harry/Ginny would be so bad. Hey, if Harry and Ginny end up getting married, it would bring Ron and Harry a lot closer...they would be brother in-laws :D
Aww...soo...cuuuttteee...
Mrsfredweasley226 January 16th, 2003, 11:59 pm I think Ron and Hermione. They are just to cute together. Hermione is the brains of everything and Ron is sort of like the comic relief. You know what they say opposites attrack.
I think that maybe Ginny and Harry will go together. Shes not that much younger then him, but you never know with JKR, she is so unpredictable maybe there will be a new girl in Harry's life.
As for Cho, I think she may be to depressed after Cedric's death.
Ame January 17th, 2003, 1:17 am Originally posted by DarlingChild
I don't think Harry/Ginny would be so bad. Hey, if Harry and Ginny end up getting married, it would bring Ron and Harry a lot closer...they would be brother in-laws :D
Aww...soo...cuuuttteee...
Yeah, it would be cute... but then again it seems too perfect to be real.
lanifiel January 17th, 2003, 1:27 am Originally posted by DarlingChild
I don't think Harry/Ginny would be so bad. Hey, if Harry and Ginny end up getting married, it would bring Ron and Harry a lot closer...they would be brother in-laws :D
You know you've hit something pretty important with that. Would Harry marry anyone if they had a big family he could feel part of? And if so then Ginny does seem the perfect solution doesnt it. With Ginny comes all the Weasleys, whom Harry thinks of as brothers already and I'm fairly certain it goes both ways, you have the surrogate Mum and Dad and Herimone is already great friends with them as well...
Rowena Ravenclaw January 17th, 2003, 1:58 am Yeah, but if he thinks of Mr. and Mrs. Weasley as his mum and dad, and the other Weasleys as his brothers, that makes the relationship just the slightest bit...creepy, doesn't it?
lanifiel January 17th, 2003, 2:12 am Thats what Brother-in-Law and Mother-in-Law mean though, you are entering the family, they take those roles to you as well as your normal parents...
Fuchsia January 17th, 2003, 3:28 am Ginny is a little girl. She doesn't have a fully formed personality yet. It is not impossible that Harry could love her for her.
SeniorFishy January 17th, 2003, 3:31 am We still don't know much about Ginny and perhaps after this book we'll get to more her character better. She was more or less a minor character in the previous books and more of a little sister to Ron than a girl of any importance to Harry.
go_anna40 January 17th, 2003, 6:22 am Yes, I agree. Her character hasn't developed fully yet. But it would be weird entering a family like that, it certainly does make the Harry/Ron relationship weird, it could even break it if you ask me.
lanifiel January 17th, 2003, 9:21 am Another reason why she may think about venturing down that road, however that was done with the whole Ron Vs Harry thing about the Goblet of Fire entry...
SiriusBlack January 17th, 2003, 10:55 am Originally posted by SeniorFishy
We still don't know much about Ginny and perhaps after this book we'll get to more her character better. She was more or less a minor character in the previous books and more of a little sister to Ron than a girl of any importance to Harry.
It's true she has little importance to Harry. But she always freaks out when she sees him. I mean, Harry obviously sees that she likes him and he can't just ignore that. Plus, she's not that minor of a character, in COS, she was the one opening the chamber and all controlled by Tom Riddle and all. Could she join the dark side???? Could she be the one to betray Harry and Ron. Since she's been on the dark side unintenionally before. Maybe she will, after she has already sensed Voldemort's power in her own body. If Harry goes with another girl, she might get angry and turn to the powerful side she's confident of. Sorry, off topic. I'll creat a new thread for this.
SeniorFishy January 17th, 2003, 6:11 pm " I mean, Harry obviously sees that she likes him and he can't just ignore that. "
Is that any different than what his other fans(like Colin) do when they see him? We know that she will have a bigger role in OotP, so we'll get to know her better but I seriously don't think Harry has noticed Ginny as someone who has a crush on him(which she does). I think Harry sees her as someone who is obsessed with his popularity of something he did long ago as a baby.
Oddfellow January 17th, 2003, 7:08 pm Harry knows that Ginny has a crush on him. I think Ron told him so in CoS. I'll look it up later.
DarlingChild January 17th, 2003, 9:11 pm *chants* Ron and Hermione!
snaperules January 17th, 2003, 10:31 pm Ginny won't join the dark side.
Oddfellow January 17th, 2003, 10:37 pm There is another post for that Snaperules. Will Ginny go to the Dark Side??? *chants* Harry and Hermione!
lleyki January 17th, 2003, 10:37 pm Harry very much knows Ginny has a crush on him. Hell everyone knows; including Hagrid. I mean it's not like she hides it that well. I am interested by the statement that Harry can't ignore that because unless I'm mistaken he's been ignoring since COS when he first met her. I'm too lazy to look up the exact quote but there was a moment in COS when they were still at the Burrow and Ginny put her hand in her bowl of porridge out of nervousness. It specifically says that Harry was the only one who saw and continued talking; pretending he didn't see. Honestly I know boys are slow but not that much that Harry wouldn't know Ginny likes him. Of course he ignores it because it's the only way he knows how to deal with it. I mean it's not like they can talk about it; one hello and Ginny's blushing red. People need to remember that just because someone likes you doesn't mean you have to like them. Too many people see this thing as Ginny being so sweet and she likes him so much. Yes, but he doesn't like her and someone shouldn't force themselves to feel something they don't just because the girl is so sweet. It's not fair to him or her and I feel like a relationship between them if R/Hr get together will be nothing but that. Seriously that's what people want? Harry when feeling like a third wheel to then take on good old faithful Ginny because let's face it; she's always liked him and she'll be available. One more thing, I've seen this over and over and it confuses me. So many people say Ginny has been so loyal to Harry and that's another reason they like the pair. When exactly?
Don't get me wrong I'm sure Ginny would do anything for Harry as would all the Weasleys. However, we haven't seen it for people to make a case of her loyalty being a reason for them to get together. The only female that has been absolutely, completely loyal to Harry is Hermione. Loyal to the point of being ridiculed like she was in GOF. I'm sure if need be Ginny would stand up for Harry but it just hasn't been seen so I don't get that argument of her loyalty.
Oddfellow, I didn't know you were a particular shipper? From your posts I always assumed you weren't partial to any one pair and made arguments for all sides. Unless you're just saying that to get to Darlingchild.:)
min January 17th, 2003, 10:48 pm I think we really don't know Ginny. Right, she has a crush in the first and second book but, what happened with her later? In PoA and GoF she appears only in a few pages. We don't know her friends, or what does she enjoy. Nearly the only personal thing we know about her is that she had a crush with Harry, and before reading about the ball, i think she is growing up and getting that crush back.
She'll play an important role in the new book, so it's posible Harry meet a new Ginny and Ginny meet the real Harry Potter.
snaperules January 17th, 2003, 10:51 pm It's been stated that she'll have a big role in the next book.
min January 17th, 2003, 10:58 pm Maybe Harry and Ginny getting time together? alone?
snaperules January 17th, 2003, 11:01 pm That's a possibility.
lanifiel January 18th, 2003, 12:53 am Its also possible that she will have a bigger role that broadens her character just to be killed off...
Oddfellow January 18th, 2003, 2:56 am Lleyki, I support all sides, to a certain extent. Knowing that J.K. is the only one who can truly decide in the end. But as of my opinions and/or hopes I ship Harry/Hermione. Though I love to see good debate, and STRONG evidence supporting someone else's opinion. In the end, we are all just as clueless as the characters. And that is an encouraging thought.
"Liars Prosper."
-anonymous
go_anna40 January 18th, 2003, 6:11 am Originally posted by lleyki
The only female that has been absolutely, completely loyal to Harry is Hermione. Loyal to the point of being ridiculed like she was in GOF.
But loyalty is not the only thing you need in a relationship. Hermione might be loyal to Harry, but not necessarily like him. Hermione is also loyal to Ron, as well. So you can say it can go either way.
Well, maybe that's a bit biased...just my opinion.
Kingdom Ops January 18th, 2003, 6:52 am lanifiel, thats the best preduction i've ever heard. :D Harry/Cho(or Hermione) all the way.
On another note.. From the sounds of things, some people think that if Ron and Hermione get together, Harry will. I don't think thats true, and i'm sure others agree with me. Those people usually the ones who don't think Harry is going to be with anyone..
SiriusBlack January 18th, 2003, 8:08 am I'm sure Harry will get together with someone sooner or later. My guess will be the 5th book which is 150 something days away. So be patient.
lleyki January 18th, 2003, 8:25 am Anna you may have misunderstood me slightly. I wasn't trying to prove a H/Hr romance by that statement. Alot of people have used the argument that one of the things that make them like the Harry/Ginny pair or a way they know it's going to happen; is because she is so loyal to him. I was merely trying to contradict that argument by showing that there's been little opportunity for Ginny to show loyalty to Harry and that the only female we've really only seen show him loyalty on consistent basis is Hermione. Not every statement is an attempt to prove one couple will happen while another won't.
Ame January 18th, 2003, 8:35 am Well, I must agree that Ginny showing loyalty to Harry isn't exactly strong enough support.
I came up with this theory and posted it about two pages back. I personally feel that Harry deserves someone who understands his life. May it be fully or partially. Now I know this is proof for a Harry/Hermione pairing, but seeing how JKR stated that it will be merely platonic between those two... Anyway, the only other girl I think of is Ginny. She does not understand completely but she does have some idea. She was a victim of Tom's mind control, as well I'm sure the Weasleys are at least aware of how horrible the Durselys are to Harry. So, I think that other than Hermione, Ginny would be a good match for Harry.
The only thing that gets me, is how oddly perfect it would be for the two to end up together.
lanifiel January 18th, 2003, 8:39 am Who can ever understand Harrys life?
Ame January 18th, 2003, 8:40 am Well, honestly... no one, at least not entirely. But one can have some idea...
SiriusBlack January 18th, 2003, 8:41 am Umzzzzzzzz. Can you Lanifiel??? Can you understand it.Hey Ame, don't leave out Cho.
Ame January 18th, 2003, 8:48 am Don't worry, I haven't forgotten about Cho.
She now has a small glimpse (As do the rest of the school) into the horror that is Voldemort. And though small, this glimpse, I believe, is enough to open the students minds to what is to come. As for Cho, she was hit slightly closer than the rest seeing how she had some type of close attachment to Cedric. So, I don't believe the poor dear is up for dating right away. She may have even developed a fear. And true she may have some idea, but she's got nothing on Ginny... in the same way that Ginny has nothing on Hermione.
SiriusBlack January 18th, 2003, 8:54 am Yes, but as you know, Harry has defeated the dark lord more than once, even when he was a baby. So she might feel safer next to him and date him. Because it's been at least 2 months, she's probably forgotten the horror already.
Ame January 18th, 2003, 9:08 am I doubt anyone could forget that horror so quickly, seeing how Voldemort's name has been a source of fear even after his so called defeat. So, to know that he has risen again... there's no getting over that right away. As for feeling safer next to Harry... she may. But that's no gurantee... Like Dumbledore said remember Cedric. He was by Harry's side and there was no saving him. He died just for being a bystander. And Harry barely made it himself. He was saved by the good grace of his mother's love. Cho won't have that same protection... so she may not be as lucky as Harry.
And technically, he's only encountered the Dark Lord once so far. Book 1 it was a nervous, little man being under the Dark Lords influence. Book 2 it was a book which held the soul (more or less) of Tom Riddle, that's pre-Voldemort... not Voldemort. Book 3 it was a rat of a man. Book 4 is the only true time that Harry has encoutered the Dark Lord head on.
Xikum January 18th, 2003, 9:20 am Well, head on when he was a baby...but that was his mum's protection. I still think that PS & CoS do count, just the Dark Lord wasn't at 'full power'. Voldie learned stuff about Harry those times, as much as Harry learned about him...But I DO agree that it was the first time he as an individual in charge of his own protection, met the full/ body and soul version of Voldie.
kaboom36 January 18th, 2003, 5:09 pm Hello Everyone,
I am new to this board; I’d like to share my thoughts with all of you. I apologize if my thoughts already repeat some of the things you guys already said. My thoughts are based on the interviews with JKR and some clues in the first 4 books of the series. I rank the most likely will happen to the least likely will happen. This order might be in “REVERSED” order because we all know JKR has a way of “Shocking” readers.
1. Ron/Hermione –
It’s pretty obvious that Ron likes Hermione and Hermione has given Ron plenty of the hints. This is the one that Hermione yelled to Ron after the Yule Ball in the common room. “Well, if you don’t like it, you know what the solution is, don’t you?” yelled Hermione. Ron still didn’t get the point then Hermione said this to Ron. “Next time there is a ball, ask me before someone else does, and not as last resort!” That convinced me that this will be most likely to happen in book five.
2. Harry/Ginny –
We all know Ginny has crush on Harry. That’s a fact. But my point is, will Harry start noticing Ginny and maybe change his feeling toward Ginny? Well, we know Harry thought Cho Chang was the most beautiful girl in school, and still gazed at her during the Yule Ball. After Cedric’s death, Harry will rethink about how he feels toward Cho Chang. That let me believe Harry will have crush on the most beautiful girl in the next school year. Back to Ginny, I do believe in the 5th book that Ginny will be a stunning beauty (Most beautiful, everyone’s desired type of girl in school) and Harry will notice that and adjust his feeling toward Ginny. I know that best friend’s sister sounds gross, but do we know Ron will be his best friend until the end? JKR said during the interview that Harry will be with someone who appears in the first 4 books. Ginny appears in the first 4 books.
3. Harry/Hermione –
I am pulling for this to happen but not until the very last chapter of book 7. I‘ll explain more at the end of this post. JKR said Harry and Hermione won’t be anything beyond “platonic.” But I think that will only be the case for book 5, 6, and maybe 7. Harry’s feeling toward Hermione has always been the “sister” feeling, nothing more. Maybe at the end he will realize Hermione will be his true love and not as a sister. Evidences of Hermione helped Harry when no one else is there for him or believes him is in every book that JKR has written so far. Hermione appears in all 4 books. And JKR did not say only ONE girl from all 4 books will be in Harry’s relationship.
4. Draco/Ginny –
Well, anything goes in Harry Potter. (LOL) My argument is that Ginny is pureblood and I don’t think Malfoy could be all that bad. Draco might even help Harry defeats Voldie. JKR has the pen, she can decide. But I think the plot would be good if this would happen.
5. Harry/Parvati
This one is a shocker. She did go to the Yule Ball with Harry, and believe it or not, she appears in all 4 books. But I highly doubt this will happen, but like I previously mentioned, JKR has a way of shocking readers. I agree with previous poster about Parvati is just like a regular teenage girl. Her comment regarding Moody during Yule Ball, “He is so creepy!”
6. Draco/Hermione
This one is beyond sick and gross level. It’s very disgusting. If this would happen, I don’t think I’ll recommend anyone to read the book. I only bring this up because Malfoy did not say anything to Hermione when he saw her at the Yule Ball. Again, anything goes, I have to be open minded.
That’s my thoughts about pairing in Harry Potter Series. But this may go off the topic little, but I have to add this in and it has everything to do with the pairing. Do you guys notice Harry is more or less followed his father, James’ footsteps? Being a seeker, sneaking out school with friends, and always does better than his Slytherin enemy. And one thing that JKR hasn’t given us a lot is James’ relationship while he was at Hogwart. How did he end up with Lily Evans? Was she just like Hermione? How about Snape? Why did he hate James so much? I’d like to know Snape’s whole story of turning into deatheater then come back to Dumbledore’s side. My personal opinion is that He was in love with Lily Evans but when James took her away from him, he went ballistic and turned into deatheater. Do you see Ron’s stupidness action just like Snape’s? I don’t know he would be Harry’s best friend forever. Anyway, if Harry really is following his father’s footsteps, I think Harry will be with a Muggle born witch at the end, guess who is Muggle born witch? Hermione Granger. If Hermione is resemble to Lily Evans, who we will know more about in book 5, then I do believe Harry and Hermione should be together at the end. My problem is that Ginny has red hair just like his mom and she might resemble Lily Evans as well.
Conclusion –
Ron/Hermione, Harry/Ginny until book 7
Please bombard with comments.
Thanks!
hippogryph January 18th, 2003, 5:15 pm Cho is a Ravenclaw and very smart. That's one reason that I think that she will stay far away from Harry. She already lost one boyfriend to Voldemort. Why should she date the person on the top of Voldemort's enemies list?
I think the books are obviously leading to a Ron/Hermione couple, but I think that it will be complicated by Harry. Both Hermione and Ron have strong feelings for Harry. How will Ron be able to prove that he is a better man for Hermione?
I think that Ron will have to work really hard to get out of Harry's shadow before he will feel that he deserves Hermione, even if she likes him.
I think that Hermione will be torn between her loyalty and compassion for Harry, and her growing attraction to Ron.
In the end, Harry will lose Hermione, and that will make him that much more tragic. Harry is a very tragic hero after all. Being a loner will make him seem that much more...cool...I don't know what to call it. You know that quality that those guys in Westerns have?
He may end up with Ginny in the end, but not for a long time I think.
DarlingChild January 18th, 2003, 5:36 pm I don't think anyone in the trio should hook up. We've all heard the teenage horror stories about best friends who became 'more than friends.' After they break up, their friendship will be ruined. I really want the trio to stay friends for the rest of their lives and don't want to see their close bonds severed by teenage hormones. You people forget: Hermione is not a prize to be won. She'll choose whoever she wants. I hope she keeps seeing Viktor Krum! He seems really nice if you ask me. But it is kind of weird because he's so much older than her. *shrugs* :smile:
Oddfellow January 18th, 2003, 5:50 pm Not quite as old as Snape, that would be odd.
I agree that Hermione is not a prize to be won. She will choose who she wants. I would like to hear more about her and Victor Krum. If book four was the end of him I will be highly disappointed.
Read my Fanfic "The Reckoning" in the Library. Please!
snaperules January 18th, 2003, 8:54 pm that would suck
HandsClean January 18th, 2003, 10:06 pm Actually, I do not hope that Hermione will hook up with Viktor even if she will get who she likes. It could be possible, but I prefer Ron X Hermione Couple.
Padfoot127 January 18th, 2003, 10:36 pm what do you think of ron and neville fighting over hermione? they both like her...
like darlingchild says, if the trio do date, their friendship would be ruined, which would lead to harry not having any friends, right? that would take away everything he has, which might be a twisting turn that JK might take, so beware...
lanifiel January 18th, 2003, 10:53 pm Ron and Neville fighting over, Herimone? I can see herimone looking at the winner, whoever they are, and stating she has no intention out with them...
:D
Padfoot127 January 18th, 2003, 10:59 pm but doesn't she like ron?i know she doesn't like neville- their just friends. but i think she does like ron, but wouldn't go out with him if he fought over her. i dunno.
hippogryph January 18th, 2003, 11:38 pm Ha!
Neville vs. Ron?
Who beat the troll huh?
This is no contest.
In a fight for whose the best wizard.... Uh...
Hermione will win. ;)
muziklover January 19th, 2003, 1:29 am I think it will be Ron with Hermione and Harry with Ginny. Here are interviews with the author of the Harry Potter books, JK Rowling:
From Barnes & Noble Web Site Chat with JK Rowling ( September 8, 1999)
Question: Dear Ms. Rowling, I'd like to ask if there would be a lot of romances between the characters in the upcoming books?
JKR: "Good question. I'm having so much fun writing Book 4 because for the first time Harry, Ron, and Hermione are starting to recognize boys and girls as boys and girls. Everyone is in love with the wrong people. Let no one say my books lack realism".
From Oct 1999 National Press Club Author's Luncheon
Question: Do Harry and Hermione have a date?
JKR. "No. They're very platonic friends. But I won't answer for anyone else! Nudge nudge, wink wink"
From Scholastic Online Chat Transcript (February 3, 2000)
Question: Is Harry Potter ever going to fall in love with Hermione or is he going to fall in love with Ginny Weasley?
JKR: In Book IV Harry does decide he likes a girl, but it's not Hermione or Ginny. However, he's only 14, so there's plenty of time for him to change his mind. ;-)
AOL Live from Edinburgh :May 4, 2000
UKMCLive: Goldhook is looking to the future... Ms. Rowling, can you discuss the possiblity of a central character dying? AND as Harry mature's does a love interest develop between he and Hermione? Thank you.
JKR Live: Well, as I said, there will be deaths, but I am giving nothing away there, as for Harry & Hermione... d'you really think they're suited?
From Barnes and Noble Chat (Oct 20, 2000):
Question: Is it just me, or was something going on between Ron and Hermione during the last half of Goblet of Fire? I love your books, by the way, and two of them I've read straight through cover to cover in under 24 hours.
JKR: "Well done on the reading speed! yes, something's "going on," but Ron doesn't realize it yet. Typical boy."
Barnes and Noble Chat October 20, 2000
Will Ron ever get a girlfriend?
I'm laughing again.... Why wouldn't he?! Though he's not doing too well at the moment, is he? But then, Fleur Delacour was really aiming a bit high.
philly.com Article November 12, 2000
Also, Rowlings said, Ginny Weasley - little sister to Harry's best friend, Ron, who's been nursing a crush on Harry for the first four books - "will play more of a role in Book Five."
From BBC "Red Nose Day" Online Chat (March 12, 2001):
Question: Does Hermione like Ron as more than a friend?
JKR: "The answer to that is in Goblet of Fire!"
From BBC "Red Nose Day" Online Chat (March 12, 2001):
Question: Will Harry ever notice the long-suffering Ginny Weasley?
JK Rowling: "You'll see... poor Ginny, eh?. Poor Ginny, languishing in love for Harry, and he's merrily asking out other girls right under her nose! But that's just a boy thing."
Sydney Morning Herold Interview October 28, 2001
I want Harry Potter and his friends to grow up as well as older, though I'll keep it all humorous, well within the tone of the books. I want them eventually to be truly 17 and discover girlfriends and boyfriends and have sexual feelings - nothing too gritty. Why not allow them to have those feelings?
-About Book 5: Rowling said there will be "more boy-girl stuff, inevitably", adding: "They're 15 now, hormones working overtime."
Quote from the webmaster of Sugarquill.net:
"...I also can't find the interview that I do remember seeing in which JKR commented about Harry getting romantically involved with someone that has been there all along..."
The Sugar Quill gives a long and detailed essay on why Harry and Hermione are not meant to be together:
http://www.sugarquill.net/index.php?action=goodshiprh&st=angua
A Collection of Posts Regarding Harry Potter and Ginny Weasley:
http://www.sugarquill.net/index.php?action=gringotts&st=hg
Paradise January 19th, 2003, 3:14 am Woah, that article about Harry and Hermione was really interesting!
too_wicked January 19th, 2003, 3:31 am nice research muziclover! i firmly base my beliefs on harry's love life on those interviews.
im really glad somebody posted those here.
lanifiel January 19th, 2003, 3:50 am :lol: both articles are great but in truth, everything we can say, produce or find, means very little if JKR already has a plan for the characters and their emotions which, of course, she does...
SiriusBlack January 19th, 2003, 9:27 am Hard work muzilover. I'd never really spend much effort and time doing research for a post. Good job. Nice essays.
go_anna40 January 19th, 2003, 10:23 am Originally posted by muziklover
I think it will be Ron with Hermione and Harry with Ginny.
Those interviews do seem to point that way, but I would hate to see it happen. But hey, Rowling's got tricks in her sleeves.
Nice post muziklover :tu:
lanifiel January 19th, 2003, 10:29 am Originally posted by Sirius Black
Umzzzzzzzz. Can you Lanifiel??? Can you understand it.
Of course not. Harry loves the memory of his parents, I cant stand mine and they will not even speak to me. Harry, is a popular person, I'm the opposite, I enjoy the company of my computer or a book. But that was not my point. I was saying that no one can understand anothers life, its what gives us our unique personality and character...
SiriusBlack January 19th, 2003, 10:34 am Oh............ Now I understand what you meant. But JKr writes about Harry, all his feelings, his ups and downs. Isn't that enough to understand. I mean, you just described how you understand him Lani, and that's already a lot about his personnality. Is anyone confused here?
lanifiel January 19th, 2003, 10:42 am Look, I really cant be bothered explaining to you.
SiriusBlack January 19th, 2003, 10:47 am Oh, whatever. Let's continue on with the thread.
too_wicked January 19th, 2003, 10:55 am from muziklover's research, one interview told us that hermione and harry are platonic friends. then, i searched for other jkr interviews and one from avanova dated december 24, 2001 said that harry will develop an interest in hermione.
did jkr changed her mind after doing that interview about h/hr's platonic friendship or am i just lost here???
SiriusBlack January 19th, 2003, 11:00 am Umzzzzzz. An interest may not necessisarially mean a romantic intrest. It could mean a deep friendship intrest , or something like that.
too_wicked January 19th, 2003, 11:57 am THANKS!;)
Auri DeMeer January 19th, 2003, 4:21 pm Yes, Harry may develop an interest in Hermione, especially after that kiss at the end of GoF - I'm sure he gave it a thought over the summer... But Hermione has always treated him like a (little) brother. On the other side, Ron has such a crush on Hermione after Yull Ball, poor thing... This thing between Ron and Hermione is even more noticeable in the films (the second one).
Harry has always wanted to belong to the Weasleys - and what better than getting together with sweet Ginny? I hope we get to know her better in book 5.
Rowayda January 19th, 2003, 6:44 pm Im sticking with Harry-Hermione Ron- Ginny
i cant be bothered thinking about other couples , it hurts my brain too much!
Oddfellow January 19th, 2003, 6:56 pm You think Ron and Ginny are going to go out? Now that is sick! I remember when people said I was weird when I said Snape and Trelawney were going out. Sick!
"Liars Prosper."
-anonymous
FatalBeauty January 19th, 2003, 7:13 pm WOW, somehow I've managed to not reply to this thread yet! Here are the couples I want to happen:
*Harry-Hermione-Ron love triangle, ending up with Ron and Hermione dating, and Harry being lonely
*Ginny and Colin. It would be so cute, and they could start a Harry Potter fan club!
*Cho and Malfoy. Don't ask.
I doubt any of those are going to actually happen though. :sigh:
DarlingChild January 19th, 2003, 7:40 pm Wow...interesting..Cho and Malfoy.
definetly interesting...:rotfl:
FatalBeauty January 19th, 2003, 8:22 pm Yeah, me and my friend became obsessed with that couple a year or two ago, and we wrote a very interesting fanfic about them!
DarlingChild January 19th, 2003, 8:29 pm ...Won't say....anything...:D
Animagi Girl January 19th, 2003, 8:45 pm I'm a full supporter of Harry/Ginny and Ron/Hermione. I used to be for Harry/Hermione, but then I decided I like this way better. Harry needs to finally notice Ginny! Although that might make things a little weird between Harry and Ron, if Harry were to date his little sister.
DarlingChild January 19th, 2003, 8:53 pm Anamagi Girl, I agree about the Harry/Ginny thing! It's time he finally notices poor little pining Ginny..
Oddfellow January 19th, 2003, 9:00 pm I'm starting to think it might not be too bad for Harry and Ginny to get together. Harry always has loved the Weasleys. I can still hope otherwise though.
"Liars Prosper."
-anonymous
DarlingChild January 19th, 2003, 9:03 pm Exactly. Then they can all really be one big happy family :D
Turambar January 19th, 2003, 10:00 pm Hi to all. I'm a complete newbie here but got sick of just lurking and reading posts.
Warning: this could get a bit long winded!
When I first read GOF I didn't see it the way a lot of people here and on other boards seem to as obviously flagging an R/Hr romance.
I saw in the book a new awareness on the part of Hermione of the world outside her friends/books/lessons: the house elf situation, her thoughts about liking people for who they are rather than for their appearance. There was also a feeling she has a growing confidence in herself, she's ready to blossom in areas outside academia. So her reactions to Ron and Harry were coloured by that.
With Ron I saw alot of his reaction over the Yule Ball as possessiveness and jealousy rather than a STRONG attraction for Hermione. I think he has a developing interested in her. It was noticeable in POA, how impressed he was with her slapping of Malfoy, quitting divination, getting the invisability cloak. Ron's a likeable guy, funny, mostly loyal. But he's emotionally immature, especially in comparison with Harry and Hermione.
I felt that a lot of his anger over Hr/K was to do with a feeling of ownership possessiveness over Hermione. Remember the trio have been exclusive friends for a few years. They haven't shown any real interest in anyone else enough to invite anyone else into their group. There was a bit in POA where Harry says to Hr/R "I need to talk to you in private" and Ron tells Ginny who was with them to clear off.
I think Ron was put out because he took Hermione for granted as HIS friend and Krum pulled HIS friend away. Would Ron react any better if Harry decided he wanted to hang around with someone else and not be with Ron for a while?
Some people also think the fact that Harry didn't react in the same way proves Ron's romantic feelings for Hermione. The thing is everybody is different. Harry is more mature, he's also able to learn from experiences. For instance he was only interested in the veela initially and very quickly got over it and didn't allow them to have any influence over him again. He felt initial feelings of jealousy towards Cedric over Cho but was able to recognise them and adjust. He was on the way to being friends with Cedric despite his interest in Cho. No one would suggest that the fact that he wasn't as immature about Cedric as Ron was about Krum means he wasn't interested in Cho.
In summary I think that rather than GOF being the road map for a definate Hr/R romance it represents the start of both boys starting to notice Hermione and Hermione starting to think about relationships, who she is and what sort of qualities she's looking for. Both Cho and Krum seem to represent the mysterious, atrractive stranger you occasionally meet and become interested in but never really get to know.
I think judging by the fact that JKR highlighted Ron's jealousy to such an extent GOF, an attraction triangle will develop with the next book because it opens up such enticing opportunities for the author. If Ron can get so jealous over a competition to the extent of avoiding Harry and allowing Malfoy to attack harry without helping him, how is he going to react if he realises he wants Hermione, then realises that so does Harry and maybe Hermione prefers Harry. There are plenty of little hints in the last book that H/Hr are starting to notice each other as well. They have also had to spend and get through stressful periods together in POA and GOF which builds closeness. Also Harry over the summer may analyse the fact that even though he was attracted to Cho, Hermione was clearly more important to him during the lake task and he was also more interested in her at the ball as well. He may also wonder why others thought there was something between them.
All bets are off!
DarlingChild January 19th, 2003, 10:17 pm Hoy! Good points!
Welcome to the boards!!
That was a really great post...the stuff you said about Harry reacting differently that Ron really got me. I never thought of it that way before..
Ah GREAT GREAT post!! :D
min January 19th, 2003, 10:28 pm Really good, Turambar. Is a diferent way to see it.
hippogryph January 19th, 2003, 10:29 pm There is still a chance that JKR could downplay the romantic relationships in this book between our main characters and have them go for other characters. I think it might add more humor if two of the trio are always commenting on the pathetic attempts of the third person to attract someone else.s attention.
Then again, maybe that was all played out in GoF.
I understand why lots of people favor the Harry/Ginny couple, but I think that we are going to have to learn a lot more about Ginny before she becomes interesting enough for Harry. I don't think that just getting prettier will be enough. She's gonna have to show her Griffindor colors (bravery, loyalty, etc.) so that we can all be impressed with her.
Ron, Hermione, and even Neville have done things in the story to impress us, but except for trying to defend Harry from Malfoy in the bookstore in CoS, I haven't seen anything to impress me about little Ginny yet.
Justin Etre January 19th, 2003, 11:29 pm I think that we all need to bear in mind that this isn't an episode of 'Clueless' where everybody needs to 'end up' with somebody at the end. I agree with Tarubar's point that Ron was just showing his jealous side, and that he would have felt the same way if Harry had gone off with Cho.
snitch14 January 19th, 2003, 11:44 pm I have two things to say on the subject of Harry getting Hermione or Ginny...
1. Harry might end up with Hermione AFTER something happens with her and Ron cause obviously they'll have sometin. Ron might get angry at Harry again, or maybe not. o.O
2. Ginny might get Harry and not. He only sees her as Ron's younger sister so far but that all might change as J.K. said Ginny will play a bigger role in the book. (unless she dies) My friend keeps telling me that Ginny deserves Harry and Ron deserves Hermione. We'll see...
daniel4hp January 20th, 2003, 12:03 am Ron and Hermione might go with each other in the fifth book, leaving Harry either with Ginny or by himself. Then, in the sixth book, Harry might begin to like Hermione, then she and Ron could split up. In the seventh book Harry might be with Hermione, Ginny with someone else, and Ron could be killed.
Basically, I think any interests they are showing at this point could fade away and they could get new interests by the end of the series. And some people might end up by themselves.
snitch14 January 20th, 2003, 12:17 am Uhh...one more thing.
There is a possibility that Harry will die in the end. But I have a theory that he and Hermione will be together before that. After Harry dies, Hermione might come back to Ron.
I'm really not sure bout that but still...
AllanTheGreat January 20th, 2003, 12:26 am I think it should go like this:
Harry & Hermione - Hermione just hides it very well
Ginny & Draco - Is there another way to get to Harry than dating his biggest rival?
Ron & New Girl - :??:
I think Harry and Hermione should get together, they make the perfect couple, and to me it just seems that Ron does not deserve her. Hermione likes Harry, but hides it very well. She just expresses her feelings through simple actions, like when she brought Harry some toast for breakfast when he woke up late in GoF. After that, she suggested to go for a walk, because he couldn't stand to see him so depressed for not having his friend (Ron) on his side. She cares about him, but does not like to show it too much.
As for Ginny and Draco: it's obvious that Ginny likes Harry, so, Ginny just thought that getting with Malfoy, would be a good way to make Harry jealous.
What do you think?
snitch14 January 20th, 2003, 12:29 am Good theory. Though if Ginny started to date Malfoy, Ron would have a fit. :D
Good points on how Hermione carefully hides her real feelings. :evil:
Oddfellow January 20th, 2003, 12:30 am No that is the best way to make Ron angry (and Fred and George). Ron and Draco would fight like no tomorrow. That would be a very ugly thing.
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"Liars Prosper."
-anonymous
snitch14 January 20th, 2003, 12:31 am Why would Ginny want to make Ron angry?
Oddfellow January 20th, 2003, 12:34 am She wouldn't want to. She would only want the attention of an older guy. In turn making Ron angry (which is no large task).
snitch14 January 20th, 2003, 12:35 am Ahh well. I still think she'd want Harry's attention much more than Draco's.
DarlingChild January 20th, 2003, 12:38 am Like I've said before.... the Ginny and Draco pairing is sick and gross...almost as twisted as Hermione and Draco shippers...GAH!!
Plus, Malfoy hates the Weasley family...think what his father would do to poor little Draco if he ever found out he was dating a Weasley...
snitch14 January 20th, 2003, 12:41 am My point exactly. Let's not go into the discussing of going in the wrong direction by saying that Draco would date a 'Mudblood' or a Weasley. Honestly...
That's sort of impossible, unless Draco turns out to be a good guy which is so unlikely.
DarlingChild January 20th, 2003, 12:45 am Exactly. Draco would no sooner date a Weasley than Snape would adopt Harry...:D
Turambar January 20th, 2003, 1:00 am Thanks Darling Child and min.
Just on Ron and Hermione, I think the reason why a lot of people like that pairing is because she is a frequent target for his humour rather like the Harry/Draco conflict allows both to let off some good one-liners.
But I was thinking about what sort of person would suit him if you could write her yourself and for me she would have to be a bit sporty, maybe a quidditch player, someone who got off on his sense of humour and was funny herself, kindhearted but reasonably straightforward, not too complex.
Ron is a character in need of some self belief, to find something he's good at. With Hermione he would always feel the need to compete but wouldn't be able to and it could be quite destructive.
DarlingChild January 20th, 2003, 1:03 am Good points again...yea, the Ron/Hermione pairing might not be such a good idea as Hermione is a model student and Ron is pretty much normal...he would feel overshadowed by her just as he does by most of his older brothers. That would be very self destructive for Ron.
But hey, opposites attract...you never know, they might get on better then we think :D
Oddfellow January 20th, 2003, 2:55 am I'm saying what if Ginny "went out" with Draco. Draco would profit because he could rub it in Harry and Ron's face. I'm not saying that it would happen, there is no indication that it will. I am just curious of the implications that is all.
"Liars Prosper."
Oddfellow
DarlingChild January 20th, 2003, 3:29 am Why would he rub it in their faces?
I'm confused..
I guess I kind of see what you're saying. Maybe, making Ginny think he likes her, and since if they date it would make Ron very mad....hmm...I see where you're going. Highly unlikely though :D
hippogryph January 20th, 2003, 3:37 am Originally posted by daniel4hp
Ron and Hermione might go with each other in the fifth book, leaving Harry either with Ginny or by himself. Then, in the sixth book, Harry might begin to like Hermione, then she and Ron could split up. In the seventh book Harry might be with Hermione, Ginny with someone else, and Ron could be killed.
I think that it would be way too sad if Ron died. Of the trio, he is the only one who can make the others laugh consistently. Without him, Harry and Hermione would have all of the humor of a tomb. :'(
DarlingChild January 20th, 2003, 3:41 am Nah...Harry's pretty funny. Hermione can be funny without even trying...her seriousness and whatnot. But yea, it would be sad if he died!
too_wicked January 20th, 2003, 5:12 am if ginny and draco end up together, ron would go ballistic. i mean, if i were ron, id freak out. id rather drop dead than see my precious sister fall for an evil scum like draco who insults my family.
if that happens, harry and hermione will freak out too. they're both friends of the Weasleys.
even if i like hermione better than ginny i really feel ginny deserves somebody better. harry is perfect for her and i hope he notices her. he's a prat not to notice her.
Oddfellow January 20th, 2003, 5:19 am Why is he a prat?
Number one I don't understand how he is going to notice her. Well I guess she could hire someone to sing a Valentine to him. What? She did that? Oh, well then I guess she could start communicating!
Secondly, If Harry doesn't want to go out with Ginny, that is between Him and J.K.
And finally, to Ginny, Harry may be perfect for her, but is Ginny perfect for Him?
"Liars Prosper."
-anonymous
marrapessa January 20th, 2003, 7:44 am I think Ginny will very much come into her own in this book, and remember, JK said that book 2 is the key? quote from book two, draco "Look Potter, you've got yourself a girlfriend!" in the bookstore, remember??
SiriusBlack January 20th, 2003, 8:38 am Yeah, but my theory was that Ginny might betray Harry to Voldemort because Harry doesn't care about Ginny at all. He ignores her. And Harry might get himself another girlfriend. Then Ginny out of jealously, will give Harry away to Voldemort.
lanifiel January 20th, 2003, 8:47 am Theres a difference between being scorned and hurt and becoming a traitor to everything your parents and friends stand for though. I for one cant see Ginny doing this, she loves her parents and to goto the dark side would kill them...
SiriusBlack January 20th, 2003, 8:55 am But Voldemort might spare mercy on them, if Ginny begs him to. I think something like that happened to Harry's parents. That's why Voldemort killed them. Maybe they were in debt, or they worked for him in some way, so they begged him to spare Harry. Remember, Lily didn't have to die. Voldemort was telling her to step aside.
lanifiel January 20th, 2003, 9:04 am I believe that Lilly would of been killed after Harry, Voldemort is not the kind of Wizard to leave someone alive. Remember there are numerous other ways to stop someone without killing them. Voldemort didnt choose one of these, he just killed her...
SiriusBlack January 20th, 2003, 9:12 am That's because he's ruthless. But he did give her I chance I think. Oh, well. :??: Probably we'll find in the fifth book what is the real cause.
Turambar January 20th, 2003, 10:03 am Is there any evidence in the books that Hermione knows about Harry's crush on Cho?
go_anna40 January 20th, 2003, 10:23 am Nice question. I don't think there is such evidence. But Ron definately knows, maybe he handed it down to her.
SiriusBlack January 20th, 2003, 11:42 am I think she can tell by herself when she sees Harry become all dreamy when he sees Cho. I still wonder how Hermione(Emma Watson) would look like in movie four, at the yule ball. Also how Cho would look like. But I do think Hermione knows about Harry's crush.
DarkRa January 20th, 2003, 11:52 am I believe that:
1)Ron and Hermione will be togeather, because when JKR was asked if sothing has started to appear between them, she answered "Yes but Ron haven't realized anythikg yet. Typical boy" That's enough evidence for me.
2)Harry and Ginny will be togeather, because JKR said Ginny will have much of a role in OotP. I believe that this role will be to become Harry's girlfriend. Maybe she'll do something and Harry will see her the other way, not just his best friend's sister.
SiriusBlack January 20th, 2003, 11:58 am There we go again. That's probably going to happen. Wow, I think this has been discussed at least 40 times on this thread. Could we restart this?? Then we won't have to go back and all.
DarkRa January 20th, 2003, 12:05 pm Sorry if someone has say it before, but I wasn't patient enough to read 60 pages...
Sorry! :angel:
SiriusBlack January 20th, 2003, 12:08 pm No problem, we've been doing this for like forever.:p
DarkRa January 20th, 2003, 12:26 pm I think in the movie they show as clearly that something is going on with Ron and Hermione. Especially in the last scene, Hermione give Harry a hug and just shacked hands with Ron. This shows that she hasn't got a problem with Harry, they are just friends, while she fells something about Ron so if he had give him a hug, too, they would turn red :o and stuff. It's the same that happens at King's Cross Station at the end of book 4
AllanTheGreat January 20th, 2003, 2:19 pm As for the CoS movie, Harry and Hermione hugged because they missed each other very much, Hermione just shook Ron's hand because she didn't feel anything for him.
And here's and interesting Reference Note that I found yesterday while reading GoF
Goblet Of Fire
Hardcover Edition
Page 316
Third line from the bottom
...But this was a downright lie. Harry liked Hermione very much,but she wasn't...
What about that?
DarlingChild January 20th, 2003, 4:10 pm It's a sentence fragment! The whole point of the sentence and that little part was to communicate to the readers how much Harry missed Ron. It said: Harry like Hermione very much, but she wasn't the same as Ron. There was much less laughter and a lot more hanging around in the library when Hermione was your best friend.
Come on, really, that doesn't communicate any romantic feelings at all for Hermione...people just making up reasons for Harry and Hermione to get together...looking for things that aren't there :p
Nice try, though :D
FatalBeauty January 20th, 2003, 4:12 pm Originally posted by allanronald127
As for the CoS movie, Harry and Hermione hugged because they missed each other very much, Hermione just shook Ron's hand because she didn't feel anything for him.
Usually people are a little more shy and awkward and stuff around the people they like, so they treat them differently than the people they just like as friends. I think that's what's going on here.
snitch14 January 20th, 2003, 5:58 pm Oh, people, it's SO obvious that something is going on between Ron and Hermione.
1. They didn't hug in the movie cause they don't want to show their real feelings. She hugged Harry cause they have no problem in being good friends without arousing things like bf or gf type.
2. J.K. has already mentioned that something is going on. Hermione knows it pretty well but Ron doesn't. His eyes will open in the 5th book and somethin will happen. (oooh exciting!)
3. Ron has a bad way of hiding his real feelings. He got real jealous and Hermione realized it at the Yule Ball. I think everybody did, actually. o.O
And about the part with Hermione not knowing about Harry's crush, she DEFINITELY does!
Go to the chapter in the 4th book where the Beauxbutons (i dunno the spelling) and Durmstrang walk into the Great Hall and start to eat. Remember Harry said "They make them ok at Hogwarts" after Fleur descended back to her table? Well, after that Hermione said "When you both put your eyes back..." so she actually did notice Harry gawking at Cho. Hope that cleared it up. ;D
AllanTheGreat January 20th, 2003, 6:01 pm Sorry:( ,
It's just that I'm totally OBSESSED with the H+H thingy, the just seem like such a nice couple. Ron just doesnt deserve her, Ron deserves someone like Cho, or Lavender, or Angelina, or a new girl, but definately not Hermione.
Manwë January 20th, 2003, 6:09 pm I'm nearly sure that Ron and Hermione will go out some day (at least, I hope so...):p I don't think Ginny and Harry will be couple, and Cho and Harry... I'm not sure... but I don't think so... Maybe a new Weasley relative will appear... and maybe it's a lovely red haired cousin, perfect for Harry, or something like that... Do you think it's posible?
Remember that Hate and Love are nearly the same, because both of them are obsession for someone... :eyebrows:
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FatalBeauty January 20th, 2003, 6:09 pm This may cause some rotten tomatoes to be thrown at me, but I don't think Harry is mature enough to have a girlfriend. He could barely string 2 words together around Cho, and I don't think he would know how to act in a relationship.
AllanTheGreat January 20th, 2003, 6:15 pm 1. They didn't hug in the movie cause they don't want to show their real feelings. She hugged Harry cause they have no problem in being good friends without arousing things like bf or gf type.
It could be the exact opposite. She hugged Harry because she wanted to tell her real feelings, and didn't hug Ron because she didn't want Harry to think it was a friends hug.
Manwë January 20th, 2003, 6:17 pm First of all sorry for the enormous virtual witch I put over here... It's my first time in the forum and I never though it would be so big...
I was writing to suport darlingchild: there's nothing between Harry and Hermione!!!
All that search for clues is what we call (in Spain), to look for five paws under a cat.
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