Bill and Fleur's Wedding

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deej
July 20th, 2005, 2:33 pm
Googled, didn't find, sorry merge if neccessary.

I was thinking about the first few chapters of the next book and it struck me that much death and violence could occur at Bill"s and Fleur's Wedding. I am sure Snape knew of their plans (since he is/was in the Order). What better way to take out a large group of your enemies than at a location where they are all gathered.

I fully expect a large battle to occur at the wedding and Harry to face more loss after this battle (I don't expect all the Weasly's to survive and many other Order members will probably perish as well).

RitaSkeeter17
July 20th, 2005, 3:25 pm
I doubt JK will go that way. It would be pointless and sorta of heartless. The wedding is going to be one of the only calm things in the chapter. They wouldn't tell Snape about the wedding, since it really isn't important.

vivekgk
July 20th, 2005, 3:55 pm
I pondered this for a bit, and it does seem possible. Hope it doesnt happen though.

zingara
July 20th, 2005, 3:56 pm
Oh, no-no-no-no ... that would be disgusting. It's possible, but I think JK's going to give Harry his one peaceful day ... he's fighting for love, right? He needs to see Bill and Fleur happy together.

Hotmama2
July 20th, 2005, 4:07 pm
I think Bill and Fleur's wedding will be very quiet......just family and a few close friends (Tonks, Remus, Harry, Hermione...maybe Moody).

I don't think Jo will put an "epic battle" at the very begininng of the book - where the wedding probably will take place.

GrandDesign
July 20th, 2005, 4:12 pm
The wedding should be an interesting counterpoint to the meeting Harry has with the Dursleys, a meeting where Aunt Petunia may begin the process of revelation.

I would expect the wedding to include a "chance" meeting between Harry and a member of the Order who will become very important to the final book. If that person is Aberforth, so much the better.

C8H10N4O2
July 20th, 2005, 5:23 pm
From what Ron told Harry about their itinerary the next year, the wedding will be near the beginning of the book. Not the place for an epic battle.

You-Know-Who
July 20th, 2005, 5:53 pm
But Harry Potter, all the bloodtraitors and OotP members will be together in one place think about it in one attack Voldemort has the chance to get rid of 2 things that are in his way and a bunch of wizards he hates most.
Of course he probably has to participate in it with a giant or two, several dementors and what not but hey it could work...

kaosdoom
July 20th, 2005, 9:07 pm
I could see a battle happening at this time, but it probably won't happen until after words. By that time, everyone is celebrating, and probably drinking fairly heavily, so it would be smarter for them to attack then as apposed to during the actual wedding.

TheRachelbird
July 20th, 2005, 9:12 pm
I hope not. I would like for everybody just to have one nice day before everything kicks off again.

exiguusmus
July 20th, 2005, 9:26 pm
I don't think that the wedding will be the scene of a battle, although it represents a good target for Voldemort and his DEs, with members of the Order, blood traitors and Harry all present.

More likely, IMO, is that it will feature as a starting point for Harry's search for the remaining horcruxes. He may seek advice from people such as Lupin and Moody before returning to Godric's Hollow. (What price Hagrid giving Harry Sirius's motorbike for his travels?)

rILEY
July 20th, 2005, 9:27 pm
Harry really does deserve a day off, but it would be foolish for Lord Voldemort to pass up the oppurtunity-that is if he is even aware of it. I think an attack would probably end in Lord Voldemort's favor. But I don't think it would be an all out blood bath like deej predicts. Don't underestimate the power of the Order or the Weasley's.

Side-Note: Do you think Percy will be in attendance?

knavespade
July 20th, 2005, 9:33 pm
I dont think there would be a full-fledged battle, but there may be a few death eaters to get rid of. Harry really does need a day off. As for percy attending, I doubt it, seeing as he was very stiff and stubborn, and half the family didnt even want him back at Christmastime

TheColorGreen
July 20th, 2005, 10:04 pm
I think it's possible for Death Eaters to attack, but it'd be rather mean for JKR to do so. I mean, not us, the readers, but to the characters. Like some others have said, why ruin what might be the only bright spot in the characters' lives for a long time?

But then again, it is a war.

Though... it could be something else besides a battle that happens that makes the wedding integral to the plot. Like someone else said... maybe Harry meets Aberforth (finally! :D).

Sectumsempra_
July 20th, 2005, 10:27 pm
I dont think JK will have a battle. It just seems like to much at the very beggining. to me JK seems like the kind of writer who gives you just enough to want to keep reading then a huge climax at the end. A huge battle so soon into the book does not look likely to me

jo schmo
July 20th, 2005, 10:31 pm
I dont think JK will have a battle. It just seems like to much at the very beggining. to me JK seems like the kind of writer who gives you just enough to want to keep reading then a huge climax at the end. A huge battle so soon into the book does not look likely to me

i agree that it is not her style, but i have a theory: what if the tiara that Fleur is going to wear at the wedding is the thing that belonged to Ravenclaw that LV made into a horcrux? it would be very likely that there could be an epic battle for at the wedding that is just a cover-up so that the DE's can get voldemort's horcrux.

zingara
July 20th, 2005, 10:49 pm
i agree that it is not her style, but i have a theory: what if the tiara that Fleur is going to wear at the wedding is the thing that belonged to Ravenclaw that LV made into a horcrux? it would be very likely that there could be an epic battle for at the wedding that is just a cover-up so that the DE's can get voldemort's horcrux.That's an interesting idea, actually ... :) I don't think it's the case though ... I believe JK used that just to bridge the gap between Mrs Weasley and Fleur.

Sectumsempra_
July 20th, 2005, 10:50 pm
But if thats the case how did the tiara come into the weasleys possesion. and how did voldermort get ahold of it

Magical_Moon
July 20th, 2005, 10:55 pm
i thought about a battle as soon as i read about the wedding. I think it would happen afterwards like at the quidditch world cup. I don't think it'll be a large battle but i would expect something to happen

TonyJoe
July 20th, 2005, 11:30 pm
i agree that it is not her style, but i have a theory: what if the tiara that Fleur is going to wear at the wedding is the thing that belonged to Ravenclaw that LV made into a horcrux? it would be very likely that there could be an epic battle for at the wedding that is just a cover-up so that the DE's can get voldemort's horcrux.
Dude! Excellent idea, you should totally post that in the Horcrux thread. And I dont see why it wouldnt be Jo's style. If she can kill of a character like Dumbledore, surely shed be willing to have Death Eater's crash a party. If Jo is trying to realistically portray a war, the enemy wont have any respect for the sanctity of a marriage ceremony.

jo schmo
July 20th, 2005, 11:33 pm
Dude! Excellent idea, you should totally post that in the Horcrux thread. And I dont see why it wouldnt be Jo's style. If she can kill of a character like Dumbledore, surely shed be willing to have Death Eater's crash a party. If Jo is trying to realistically portray a war, the enemy wont have any respect for the sanctity of a marriage ceremony.

i have posted it there but it, so far, has been ignored. whatever

knavespade
July 20th, 2005, 11:53 pm
I like the idea of the Tiara being something important, and since when has JK let something small like a detail just slip out of the series? Remember Sirius' bike in PS/SS? Up comes book three and wham, Sirius is a major character. I just dont like the idea of a major battle. I do like the idea of a QWC scenario, where something happens afterwards, but i cant imagine when someone says 'Speak now or forever hold your peace' a death eater objects. It sounds like something out of a soap opera to tell the truth.

siriusjen
July 21st, 2005, 12:00 am
I don't think anything will happen at the wedding itself. My guess is, Harry will have met with Petunia by then and will have found out things he needs to ponder/discuss with other members of the Order (and Ron and Hermione, of course). The wedding's a good way to get them all together.

RedHeadRiot
July 21st, 2005, 1:23 am
egads that would be horrible! weddings are supposed to be sacrid and wonderful events in our lives!

i wouldnt be surprised if it took place right after, but hopefully not durring! hasnt bill been through enough already?

rILEY
July 21st, 2005, 5:07 am
i agree that it is not her style, but i have a theory: what if the tiara that Fleur is going to wear at the wedding is the thing that belonged to Ravenclaw that LV made into a horcrux? it would be very likely that there could be an epic battle for at the wedding that is just a cover-up so that the DE's can get voldemort's horcrux.

Possibly, but I can't see how a possession of Ravenclaw's would end up in the hands of what appears to be a long line of Gryffindors.

jyouto
July 21st, 2005, 5:21 am
Seeing a wedding turn into a battle ground is the kind of depressing thing that war brings about. One thing though, how will Voldemort and the DE's know where the wedding's taking place? They didn't discuss it in the book, as far as I know, and now that Snape's gone, Voldemort can't find out through any other spy.

Carbito
July 21st, 2005, 6:46 am
I don't believe that we will see any large scale fight so early in the book. Chances are that the wedding will only be mentioned briefly and used in a way as to bring all the characters together. I am thinking that the wedding event itself will be uneventful and not even merit a full chapter.

PunkRockGirli
July 21st, 2005, 6:49 am
I don't believe that we will see any large scale fight so early in the book. Chances are that the wedding will only be mentioned briefly and used in a way as to bring all the characters together. I am thinking that the wedding event itself will be uneventful and not even merit a full chapter.
I think that maybe it will make Harry feel awkward about Ginny if anything and want to leave more because he has a hard time sticking to his discision when he gets around her.

twinsrule26
July 21st, 2005, 7:13 am
Maybe I'm wrong ,but It was my understanding that the wedding wasn't announced to the world until after Snape had fled the School .Also that the only ones who knew about it where family ,and a few close friends ,not the whole Order and not the teachers at School so unless I'm wrong Snape never knew about the wedding . :huh:

PunkRockGirli
July 21st, 2005, 8:02 am
Maybe I'm wrong ,but It was my understanding that the wedding wasn't announced to the world until after Snape had fled the School .Also that the only ones who knew about it where family ,and a few close friends ,not the whole Order and not the teachers at School so unless I'm wrong Snape never knew about the wedding . :huh:
I dont think he did

Orrus
July 21st, 2005, 8:39 am
its gonna be in the begining, things are usualy slow then.

I bet that something in the plot gets kicked off.

ya cant have that many wizards gathered without harry finding some sort of trouble eh?

Overtakerx
July 21st, 2005, 8:43 am
well I bet there will be an epic battle, but not in the wedding

remember that JK said she will reveal something big about aunt Petunia?

I bet LV will try to attack Harry's muggle house only to find himself got kicked in the *** by aunt Petunia :D:D

uknowpoo
July 21st, 2005, 9:09 am
I'm kinda hoping for a midnight wedding were bill transforms maybe not into the werewolf. but something that brings the wedding to a halt.(a Nundu could be fun)

dantares
July 21st, 2005, 1:01 pm
I think it will be the time Percy is revealed as a DE. The Weasleys (especially Mrs Weasley) will invite Percy for the wedding. It was supposed to be kept as a secret, but Percy revealed the exact time and place to LV. I believed the new Minister for Magic is a DE in disguse too. Percy being the stupid and power hungry guy he is, will help the Minister.

I do believe the tiara had something to it too. It could be cursed and Fleur will attack everyone in sight?

Sprout1962
July 21st, 2005, 2:52 pm
I'm hoping the wedding will be one of the first two chapters, and will give Harry a happy memory or two to carry with him during his travels and battles (those horcruxes can't be destroyed with a poke, you know!). The Weasley's house has always provided refuge for Harry, hopefully this wedding celebration will not be any different.

loveslupin
July 21st, 2005, 2:54 pm
I'm hoping the wedding will be one of the first two chapters, and will give Harry a happy memory or two to carry with him during his travels and battles (those horcruxes can't be destroyed with a poke, you know!). The Weasley's house has always provided refuge for Harry, hopefully this wedding celebration will not be any different.

*poke* lol.

I hope nothing goes wrong. Yeah, Fleur doesn't seem like the nicest person ever, but its her wedding day. I hope nothing dark happens to ruin it.

OTM_Al
July 21st, 2005, 3:28 pm
Really really doubtful. What I think is much more reasonable and likely is that it will be at this wedding where at least one of two, if not both, relationship things will occur.

1. Ron and Hermione will finally stop their dancing around the point and finally get together.

2. Harry will realize how silly it is to have broken up with Ginny and "get back" with her. I say "get back" because despie their words, they both obviously know how the other feels and being apart doesn't solve anything nor does it protect the other.

There's nothing like a wedding to spark romance among other couples.

Danhool
July 21st, 2005, 6:00 pm
I've posted about this wedding in another thread, but I feel that I should bring it up here. I strongly believe that Fleur will be killed at the wedding, thus allowing Bill to team up with Harry to go find the rest of the Horcruces. Bill would be of tremendous help to Harry, plus providing some interesting conflicts when they must deal with Bill's werewolf-like tendencies. Bill will probably end up sacrificing himself for Harry by taking out that powerful werewolf whose name escapes me right now. As for Percy and the new Minister being DE's: highly doubtful. In times of great chaos, there are always ignorant leaders who believe that they have people's best interests at heart (*cough* Bush *cough*).

NoNEWTS
July 25th, 2005, 5:43 am
I say no.

I think there will be a blast of Love Magic as Bill and Fluer declare their love and make vows. It should be more powerful than when the Veela were performing during the Quidditch World Cup.

We saw how Harry survived because his mother chose to die for him by love. Love is Harry's gift or power or whatever, but we haven't seen much about how Love Magic works. We've seen plenty of things that aren't love: infatuation, false friendship, popularity, but at the wedding I think we'll see some magic. It will also be interesting to see if wizards have traditions like throwing the bouquet and the garter.

Oh, I also think that Percy will get back together with the family. We saw that the Minister of Magic used him to speak to Harry, but he may have said something like "She's your mother, regardless of what happened, you have to respect her." I remember Percy spoke only to her.

PuRe_Muggle
July 25th, 2005, 6:21 am
why is it an excellent idea? its a wedding, they need a tiara, and the aunt has one... the weaslys are never said to be connected to rovenclaw, and if they were dont u think they would all be in ravenclaw rather than gryffindor..

i think the wedding wont be at the start of the book, it would be something like chapter 5 or 6, i think that it would start of at the dursleys, then harry does sone research and looking, then they get an owl with the date and time, then they go... at this point i think that some death eater trouble might happen, but nothing too severe!

Ame
July 25th, 2005, 6:31 am
I hope their wedding is not disturbed by any attack from the DE's. But if it is I won't be surprised. However, the theory about the Ravenclaw tiara being at the Weasley's is not entirely impossible. Even if they were direct descedents of Ravenclaw that wouldn't necessarily mean they themselves would be in that house. As we've seen time and time again, families aren't always in the same house, look at Sirius and Regulus, and the Patil twins.

They only appear to be a long line of Gryffindors. Things are not always what they seem.

I am not saying I subscribe to this theory, I just don't think it is entirely impossible.

LeQuibbler
July 25th, 2005, 6:55 am
I like the idea of the Tiara being something important, and since when has JK let something small like a detail just slip out of the series? Remember Sirius' bike in PS/SS? Up comes book three and wham, Sirius is a major character. I just dont like the idea of a major battle. I do like the idea of a QWC scenario, where something happens afterwards, but i cant imagine when someone says 'Speak now or forever hold your peace' a death eater objects. It sounds like something out of a soap opera to tell the truth.

I was wondering about the tiara in the RoR that Harry used to mark the potions book. Could it have been Ravenclaw's?

stupidcupid05
July 25th, 2005, 12:07 pm
is possible but i hope to hell it doesnt happen, i mean how bad would that be??? a battle at your wedding, for bill and fleur's sake i hope nothing bad hapens, its a happy day for them!!!

Verneficus
July 25th, 2005, 1:51 pm
I can see something major happening at the wedding, or very soon afterwards. It would be bad for Bill and Fleur but hey, thats life. Anyway maybe the attack could come after they've been sent off for the honeymoon or whatever?

See we've already seen a big meeting of wizards for a ceremony, at DD's funeral. The wedding scene threatens to be a smaller-scale repetition of that with very little point to it. Something important has to happen at (or directly because of) the wedding, and if its a major attack, I wouldn't be surprised.

As for having a major battle at the start of the book, I don't think that's really an issue. Lots of stories have major battles at the start to get things moving. We'd still have the Harry/LV thing to look forward to at the end.

rhyme
July 25th, 2005, 2:35 pm
If Jo is trying to realistically portray a war, the enemy wont have any respect for the sanctity of a marriage ceremony.

All's fair in love & war, heh. Do you think they'll be able to arrange an unplottable wedding? I hope someone in the Order besides DD knows how to do that sort of thing.

RemusLupinFan
July 25th, 2005, 2:38 pm
I don't believe Bill's wedding will turn into a battle because I think this scene will be a representation of peace and happiness before the real battle starts. In the story, I think there would need to be some parts that aren't about the battle with Voldemort, and I believe this will be one of them. Even though Voldemort could turn the wedding into a disaster, I don't think it will happen. Also I imagine there will be many precautions taken by the Weasleys to ensure safety of everyone at the wedding.

lexi13
July 25th, 2005, 9:25 pm
I dont think Bill's wedding will turn into a big battle with DE or anything. The wedding will probably be the only happiness that the characters will experience before the real war begins. The only thing major that i can see happening is that maybe Ron and Hermione will finally get together.

ilovecedric
July 25th, 2005, 9:31 pm
An epic battle scene in the first chapters could be plausible, seeing as this would renew Harry's determination to avenge the deaths of the wedding by hunting down the Horcruxes. It would set the dark tone for the book, and perhaps set up many underlying stories (i.e. remus and tonks). It would be an exciting start to the new book. About Fleur's tiara being a Horcrux, it seems a bit far fetched, but so many toher things in the series did to before they occured.

hermioneblue
July 25th, 2005, 11:31 pm
Googled, didn't find, sorry merge if neccessary.

I was thinking about the first few chapters of the next book and it struck me that much death and violence could occur at Bill"s and Fleur's Wedding. I am sure Snape knew of their plans (since he is/was in the Order). What better way to take out a large group of your enemies than at a location where they are all gathered.

I fully expect a large battle to occur at the wedding and Harry to face more loss after this battle (I don't expect all the Weasly's to survive and many other Order members will probably perish as well).

i hope not! this hopefully will be a happy ecation.

but it would deffently be a taget for the other side.

supermage76
July 27th, 2005, 2:14 pm
An epic battle scene in the first chapters could be plausible, seeing as this would renew Harry's determination to avenge the deaths of the wedding by hunting down the Horcruxes. It would set the dark tone for the book, and perhaps set up many underlying stories (i.e. remus and tonks). It would be an exciting start to the new book. About Fleur's tiara being a Horcrux, it seems a bit far fetched, but so many toher things in the series did to before they occured.


I doubt anything like a battle might happen. I just think like Ron and Hermione wll get together and Harry and Ginny will maybe be secretly together (under her mother's nose) and then basically the wedding happens. I might feel that there might be quite a lot of revelations in the beginning or in the post wedding party but i doubt anything truly important to the plot would happen.

As for the tiarra being a horcrux there are chances because what do we know of the Prewetts besides that they were "great wizards". They could've been indirect ascendants of Ravenclaw but think about the aunt muriel since its her tiarra really. Forget the weasleys since this aunt muriel could be ravenclaw :rave: descendent.


Plus i think opening chapter will be introduction from the dark side like in GoF, HBP etc. and then like some others said harry pakcs gets letters and then goes to wedding.


P.S. I think this would be cool to find out that the Weasleys or Potters were direct Gryffindor :gryff: descendants. Its samurai time :evil:

Devi
July 27th, 2005, 2:45 pm
I really don't think that an epic battle will take place at the wedding, but for those of you who do think it's a possibility, I'm going to throw out some mythological precedent:

When Pirithous (also spelled Peirithous) married Hippodameia, centaurs were invited (being related to the bride). They got a bit drunk, and one ... um ... assaulted the bride. The rest of the centaurs decided that ... assault ... looked like tons of fun, and a big fight ensued.

~~~

I do think that the "tiara as horcrux" theory is a very good one, and if so, there might be trouble at the wedding. But that seems a bit unfair, doesn't it? Poor Molly and Fleur have only just begun to like one another, and poor Bill is all chewed up. :upset:

harry13
July 27th, 2005, 8:08 pm
I like the idea of the Tiara being something important, and since when has JK let something small like a detail just slip out of the series? Remember Sirius' bike in PS/SS? Up comes book three and wham, Sirius is a major character. I just dont like the idea of a major battle. I do like the idea of a QWC scenario, where something happens afterwards, but i cant imagine when someone says 'Speak now or forever hold your peace' a death eater objects. It sounds like something out of a soap opera to tell the truth.

hilarious! :rotfl: :p :agree: :lol: :clap: :D :) :p

Verneficus
July 28th, 2005, 12:57 am
I don't believe Bill's wedding will turn into a battle because I think this scene will be a representation of peace and happiness before the real battle starts. In the story, I think there would need to be some parts that aren't about the battle with Voldemort, and I believe this will be one of them. Even though Voldemort could turn the wedding into a disaster, I don't think it will happen. Also I imagine there will be many precautions taken by the Weasleys to ensure safety of everyone at the wedding.

I don't think a scene of peace and happiness is necessary to the story. Its the 7th and last book, JK refers to the stories as one book, one story, and the 7th book is the climax of them all. There's not always moments of peace and happiness in real-life war situations, so there doesn't necessarily have to be any in the next book. That having been said I do agree that there will have to be some parts of the book not concerned with the war against Voldemort, I just don't think that the beginning of the book will be one of them.

I'm not saying that Book 7 will start and 'WHAM!' we're into this big battle scene, but something major has got to happen near the start, and I think Bill's wedding or immediately thereafter is the likely choice. I'm leaning toward's immediately thereafter.

If you're Voldemort, waging a war against wizardkind, and your major adversary and effectual leader of the resistence against you has just been killed, you don't sit back and wait for your enemy to regroup- you take advantage of the confusion and strike as soon as possible.

Maybe he will attack the wedding, maybe he wont, but I feel sure he'll AT LEAST take advantage of the destraction the wedding will create for the Order and attack somewhere significant while their backs are turned.

daniel2099
July 28th, 2005, 8:28 am
this is where the trio will make soid planes
they will lern whats what at school

i see percy doing more to ruin the wedding then lv (maybe showing up at
all. will he be invited?)

if he atacks harry i think it will be at #4

Illustrius
July 28th, 2005, 9:55 am
Dude! Excellent idea, you should totally post that in the Horcrux thread. And I dont see why it wouldnt be Jo's style. If she can kill of a character like Dumbledore, surely shed be willing to have Death Eater's crash a party. If Jo is trying to realistically portray a war, the enemy wont have any respect for the sanctity of a marriage ceremony.

I don't know, I don't see it.

Voldemort has never been that careless. He's erected enormous defenses around the horcruxes that we know of. We saw the attempt at taking the locket in HBP, and it contained about 15 and a half layers of defense. Whatever method Albus Dumbledore used to retrieve Marvolo's ring wound him up with a blackened hand; so we can probably assume that the defenses surrounding the ring has left him with that. The Diary was presumably safe in Malfoy Manor; and obviously pertained to any defenses that may have. And Nagini, the last horcrux we have definitively seen, is practically wrapped around Voldemort -- good luck getting to that.

I just don't see the tiara finding a way into the Weasley's possession, having to just happen to turn up as a horcrux that Voldemort so carelessly forgot about, and then practically fall into Harry's lap to be destroyed. I would imagine that's a bit too simple.

HarryGinny4VR
July 28th, 2005, 5:24 pm
I don't think anything bad will happen at the wedding...it's too early in the book! I mean, the whole book is probably going to be dark, I think the wedding will be happy and a way to make Harry and Ginny meet again, especially since she'll look gorgeous....

Bee
July 29th, 2005, 12:07 am
I would be more inclined to expect an undercover DE or really anyone working for Voldemort to be there. Internal sabotage, y'know?
But as for an epic battle... I couldn't see that happening unless Grawp goes wild or something. Now THAT is plausible :D!

muggleview
July 29th, 2005, 1:50 am
The wedding will be the last nice event, before the story plunged into the dark again with Horcruxes to find and Death Eaters to fight.
I don't think Voldemort is foolish enough to attack a wedding attended by many officers from the Ministry (where Arthur works) and the Order of the Phoenix. Also with Mme. Maxime and the Beauxbatons teachers can be present. I am not sure Voldemort will hurt the Gringots who most likely will pay a visit as well. He wants them to be on his side (to control the money).

IgoRetla
July 29th, 2005, 9:12 pm
Have you all considered the ramifications of Bill and Fleur's wedding?

Krum, as a former Tri-Wizard competitor, will likely be there. Interesting for Ron and Hermione.

Madame Maxime, as Fleuer's former headmistress, will likely be there...accompanied perhaps by Hagrid.

These two "Continental" wizards may bring a tie to Grindelwald.

I think that Scrimgeour would make sure that Percy is there...as another inroad to Harry.

Great-Aunt Muriel will be there...and I think she will be very key for Harry.

Anyone else? More later!

DharmaPatil
July 29th, 2005, 9:26 pm
As I've said, I believe that Bill and Fleur's wedding will facilitate a transfer to Beauxbatons by Harry for at least part of Year 7. Harry clearly needs a new 'base of operations', and coincidentally at just that time he will be brought into direct contact with Beauxbatons people. This cannot merely be a coincidence.

hermioneblue
July 29th, 2005, 10:03 pm
i can't wait for there wedding in the next book. not only whos going to be there, but how there wedding is going to be different from most weddings.

if victor crum is there, it would be interesting to see how it effects ron and hermione.

JimmyPotter
July 29th, 2005, 10:20 pm
An interesting question regarding Bill and Fleur's wedding is who will Bill choose as his best man? Usually it is a brother, but Bill has 5 to choose from. I think we can rule out Percy. We can also rule out Fred and George because neither of them does anything that doesn't involve the other. That leaves Ron and Charlie.

Dumbly
July 29th, 2005, 10:26 pm
I think Charlie will be the best man, since he's closer to Bill's age.

crumseekerlynch
July 29th, 2005, 10:26 pm
I don't think harry will ever go to Beauxbatons.

Dumbly
July 29th, 2005, 10:34 pm
Yeah, Harry is Hogwarts all the way! No smelly Beauxbatons for him.

Loxpox
July 29th, 2005, 10:56 pm
Beauxbatons has always struck me as a female-dominated school, as well, it is (most likely) situated in or about France, so I doubt it would be a feasible base of operations for Harry et al. That being said, I wouldn't mind getting a glimps of it - a spirally delicate palace, perhaps?

And perhaps Wizards don't choose a "best man" or a "maid of honour". However, there -are- Muggle-Wizard pairings, so perhaps the ceremony isn't that different.

Then again, when has Rowling ever missed an opportunity to expand the traditions of her world?

Dumbly
July 29th, 2005, 11:00 pm
well, maybe since the Weasleys are a bunch of muggle lovers, they will have a best man and maid of honor. But JKR could probably come up with something interesting...

Loxpox
July 29th, 2005, 11:04 pm
Well, Arthur no doubt has is muggle tendancies, but from what I gather of Fleur, she probably wont go for anything less than the best avaliable... What I mean to say is, I very much doubt she'll permit Arthur's "Yay Plugs!" idealism for her wedding.

But I agree, it shall of course prove to be interesting. Such a shame Dumbledore will be unable to attend. I see him as a good wedding person. He'd make a helluva speach.

DharmaPatil
July 30th, 2005, 12:10 am
Beauxbatons has always struck me as a female-dominated school, as well, it is (most likely) situated in or about France, so I doubt it would be a feasible base of operations for Harry et al. That being said, I wouldn't mind getting a glimps of it - a spirally delicate palace, perhaps?


I'm thinking that Voldy might have fled to France during some of the many years in his life where his activities are unaccounted for--hence some of the Horcruxes might now be in France even if they originally had (magical) British origins. My reason for saying this is that the names Beauxbatons, Voldemort, Malfoy, and Horcruxes all seem somewhat French--so it just seems like we are being set up for some kind of finale at least partly in France.

Also, it seems like Harry's magical support, so to speak, comes through the female line--through his mother's dying to save him, and then the magical support that Petunia reluctantly provides him--so a female-dominated school might be just what he needs for the next stage. The strong men in his life seem to be dying.

JimmyPotter
July 30th, 2005, 1:20 am
In POA it was revealed that Sirius Black was the best man at James and Lily's wedding. And in HBP Fleur says that she wants her sister Gabrielle and Ginny to be bridesmaids. So it seems that wizard weddings have many of the same roles as muggle weddings.

What will also be interesting is who the officiant is and what he or she is called.

If there is anything like tossing the bouquet, my bet is that either Hermione or Ginny will catch it. They may both have their wands out trying to Accio it.

mugglemeg
July 30th, 2005, 2:18 am
I like the theory Dharma, but I'm not sure that Harry "needs" a new base of operations. I think Hogwarts, whether open or not, will always be available to him.

As for Bill and Fleur's wedding- a lot of Aurors will be there. Since Arthur is in the ministry, would he have to invite Umbridge? (egads!)

grape_2010
July 30th, 2005, 2:32 am
Krum, as a former Tri-Wizard competitor, will likely be there. Interesting for Ron and Hermione.
I think it will be VERY interesting to see what emotions come up from Ron and Hermione if Krum does come.
These two "Continental" wizards may bring a tie to Grindelwald.
Did I miss something? What's that supposed to mean?

I think that Scrimgeour would make sure that Percy is there...as another inroad to Harry.
When will he learn.....

Great-Aunt Muriel will be there...and I think she will be very key for Harry.
Key? Once again, did I miss something? What's that supposed to mean?

What do you mean 'would he have to invite Umbridge'? Why would he have to do that?

mugglemeg
July 30th, 2005, 2:39 am
I just imagine that Arthur would have an obligation to invite important ministry officials, and if Umbridge came, that would be some juicy writing.

I just got married, we had to invite a bunch of people from my parents' offices, 'tis all.

grape_2010
July 30th, 2005, 3:05 am
Oh I see. Now I know what you mean. Yes, that would definately be an interesting bit of story. Just to see how she would react to the students and how the students would react to her. LoL!

xchrisvx
July 30th, 2005, 3:15 am
Has anyone thought about where the wedding will take place. General tradition is you hold the ceremony in the bride's hometown. Thus, I suspect are friends will be taking a trip across the English Channel in the next book. Should be fun.

grape_2010
July 30th, 2005, 3:25 am
I don't know anything about traditions but I think it will be at the Weasley's. All the easier for the Order to keep and eye on things. I'm not saying they couldn't have gone with but, I don't know. I just think it will be at the Weasley's.

mugglemom1970
July 30th, 2005, 3:51 am
I imagine it will be interesting to see guests reactions to Bill since his little accident. Hopefully all will go smoothly at the wedding. I picture it at the Weasley's too somehow.

grape_2010
July 30th, 2005, 3:55 am
Yeah. I forgot all about that. I would what the effects of the unique circumstances will be.

AchelRay
July 30th, 2005, 5:25 am
I think it will be VERY interesting to see what emotions come up from Ron and Hermione if Krum does come.

When will he [Scrimegeour] learn.....


Yeah I agree Krum might make things a little more interesting for Ron and Hermione. Let's just hope the ship doesn't sink because of it if he does come that is.

As minister Scrimegeour has to follow in someones footsteps. Though sadly with him he has to follow in fudge's footsteps so he hsn't really had a good example in front of him. Maybe they'll get rid of him like they did Fudge... Ha wishful thinking isn't it great when you want something to happen.

Arwen1957
July 30th, 2005, 5:32 am
I am wonder what Fleur's wedding robe will look like What color is traditional for a witch to wear And how will Bill dress? I imagine robes on a much more grand scale then the dress robes at the Yule Ball. And do witches and wizards carry or wear any special or lucky items at their weddings

xchrisvx
August 3rd, 2005, 10:32 pm
I just had a thought about the wedding. It's reasonable to assume Fleur will have a Boquet toss, so the question is: who'll catch it?

That would be one fun moment in the series.

ImDeadSirius
August 3rd, 2005, 11:04 pm
I want to know what people think the difference between a normal wedding and a wizard wedding will be. JKR is bound to throw some kind of twist in it. What will it be?

JimmyPotter
August 4th, 2005, 1:02 am
I just had a thought about the wedding. It's reasonable to assume Fleur will have a Boquet toss, so the question is: who'll catch it?

That would be one fun moment in the series.

If there is a bouquet toss, my guess is that either Hermione or Ginny will catch it. Perhaps they will both have their wands out trying to Accio it.

Portia_Cdn
August 4th, 2005, 1:52 am
The bonquet toss idea is what I want but too predictable. But it will be interesting the differences between a wizard and muggle wedding.

Bridgit
August 4th, 2005, 2:00 am
I can't wait to see what JKR cooks up for us muggles to learn about wizard marriage. I also think that there will be some interesting guests that will help spice up the atmosphere as well.

Alhanalasa
August 4th, 2005, 3:01 am
It was stated in HBP that the wedding will be at the Burrow, and really that makes the most sense. It's more convenient for most of the characters, and more convenient for JKR to write - less description of location means more description of action.

People keep saying Krum will be there, but I can't see why. Harry was a fellow Tri-Wizard Champion, but he hasn't stayed close to either Fleur or Krum. Maybe it's just because JKR has said we'll see more of Krum and this is the only way they think he can be worked back in? :huh:

I'm really excited to see how wizards do weddings. Fleur being what she is, I'm sure we'll see the fully decked-out version of a wizard wedding. She may only have two bridesmaids, but it'll be the equivelant of a black-tie, open-bar, Daddy-paid-way-too-much-for-all-of-this type wedding.

Another point - I can't see Arthur allowing Umbridge to be there, no matter what. Just because he works at the Ministry doesn't mean he needs to invite everyone else who does. Arthur has never felt any need to kiss up at the office, and I don't see him starting with his son's wedding.

polocub1429
August 4th, 2005, 3:43 am
The wedding will certainly be interesting. I wonder where they will have it, the Burrow seems most improper for a wedding. Maybe there's some sort of legal service or something at the Ministry of Magic? Who knows, maybe they have a sort of room where they do nuptuals?

I think the guest list will be interesting. Fleur's sister Danielle will undoubtably be there, probably as a bridesmade. She'll probably recognize Harry and talk to him. Since Fleur is part Veela, I can imagine her beautiful relatives might cause some disturbance with ceremony. I wonder what Ron will do in their presence. ;)

As for Bill's best man, I wonder who he will choose? He has so many brothers, it will probably be much like a small competition between them...that's what usually happens in ceremonies nowadays; the groom can't decide between his brothers or his best friend...

I think we'll also see a lot more of the Weasley family, including Great Auntie Muriel, Charlie, Bill, Fred, George...maybe even Percy!

I wonder how Jo will go about the usual traditions of weddings...will people bring gifts? Will the bride and groom exchange rings? How fancy will they dress? Will there be a boquet toss? And most important of all, will there be cake? :p I think it's likely we'll see all of these things...maybe even a special limo or carriage that says 'Just Married' on it!

PotionA
August 4th, 2005, 5:32 am
I just had a thought about the wedding. It's reasonable to assume Fleur will have a Boquet toss, so the question is: who'll catch it?

That would be one fun moment in the series.

Oooh that'll be interesting!! Which brings me to my next question. Are wizard weddings like muggle ones?? This really weird notion about Peeves crashing the wedding came up in the love thread of all places and I was thinking how hilarious it would be if he did.

Krum should heat things up a bit more between Ron and Hermione, something which I can't wait for :D. I wonder if Percy will attend since he refuses to associate himself with his family anymore. The scum. Fred and George might pull a few pranks on the guests which should be fun to read. All in all, I'm guessing the wedding should be VERY interesting :D.

gd09
August 4th, 2005, 6:06 am
Well Said, PotionA.

zwammy
August 4th, 2005, 6:48 am
I'm wondering how in-depth JK will get with the wedding - I wouldn't think she would waste time on something that didn't further the plot. It seems to me there is so much ground to cover in book 7 that there isn't much room to go into detail without the event being a major plot point, like a DE attack during the ceremony or Harry meeting some critical new character.

JStock
August 4th, 2005, 7:04 am
If there is a bouquet toss, my guess is that either Hermione or Ginny will catch it. Perhaps they will both have their wands out trying to Accio it.

Possibly Tonks, too...that would be quite the sight...a bunch of witches all trying to magically catch a bouquet. It may even hover in the air, momentarily confused about which way to go with everyone tugging on it at once. lol.

I'm wondering how in-depth JK will get with the wedding - I wouldn't think she would waste time on something that didn't further the plot. It seems to me there is so much ground to cover in book 7 that there isn't much room to go into detail without the event being a major plot point, like a DE attack during the ceremony or Harry meeting some critical new character.

I'm thinking that's exactly what Jo has in mind. There will probably be some kind of emergency at the reception (hopefully not some DEs crashing the party) and Harry, a few aurors, the DA, etc. will have to disapparate to Azkaban and stop a massive break-out or something.

DarkPhoenix72
August 4th, 2005, 7:04 am
All members of the OotP will be there. The OotP acts more like a big family more than anything else. So that means Professor McGonagall.

The wedding might be the thing that reunites Percy with his family.

moonlite
August 4th, 2005, 7:30 am
Hmm... some people have been mentioning that Gabrielle seems to have a soft spot for Harry (the way Fleur talks about her) and this could lead to conflict between Harry/Ginny too. However, I personally hope it (the wedding) doesn't end up too mushy with romance. But I do hope it'll turn out to be a cheerful and entertaining experience to balance out the 'dark parts' of the book.

Dumbly
August 4th, 2005, 8:02 am
The wedding hopefully will be light hearted and humorous, because we all know that things will become very VERY dark.

faeryobsessive
August 4th, 2005, 9:04 am
I think that the wedding will repersent the quiet before the storm. It will allow the charecters to have a night of fun before a book of terror, or at least that's how I hope it goes.

Since I heard about the wedding I imagined it in the Weasleys back yard as a grand outdoor wedding with lots of red heads and half Veelas for Ron to chase after. (I've acctually RPed it out this way recently)

To add to the bet of who will catch Fluers boquet, I put $5 down on Luna :)

DarkPhoenix72
August 4th, 2005, 9:10 am
I think that the wedding will repersent the quiet before the storm. It will allow the charecters to have a night of fun before a book of terror, or at least that's how I hope it goes.

Since I heard about the wedding I imagined it in the Weasleys back yard as a grand outdoor wedding with lots of red heads and half Veelas for Ron to chase after. (I've acctually RPed it out this way recently)

To add to the bet of who will catch Fluers boquet, I put $5 down on Luna :)

Well, we don't know if there will be a bouquet. ;)
I wonder if Harry will go to the Burrow first? Dumbledore told Harry to visit the Dursleys before he turns 17. Will he visit right before he turns 17?

faeryobsessive
August 4th, 2005, 9:25 am
I would suspect that the Dursleys would be there to pick Harry up after the Hogwarts Express like they always are. So I would assume he'd go home with them for a bit and then find his way to the Burrow for the wedding. (we're getting way off topic here with this opps)

But yes, I still predict boquet and Luna catching it and then beginning to ramble about some strange minature animal/insect that lives in roses.

Centaur_Iain
August 4th, 2005, 9:30 am
Well, it'll be interesting nonetheless, with Fred and George there. Scrimgeour will most likely come, with Percy, to try and coax Harry again, and he might bring Umbridge, but most likely not, it'd be funny. She'd probably run out because of Fred and George's jokes on her, and Bill's newly aqcuired "half-blood," or whatever she has against werewolves. I imagine a lot of witches and wizards from the MoM, because the Weasley's have been right about Voldemort coming back and I imagine that MoM personel are more friends with the Weasley's now. The OotP will be there too, possibly Aberforth?

Like I said, it will be interesting regardless.

nihonsalem
August 4th, 2005, 12:37 pm
The part I don't think anyone has mentioned yet are Bill's co-workers. He was the curse-breaker for Gringott's, right? So he must know a lot of people who have higly specialized wizarding skills. Detecting curses and breaking them ,counter-curse as well as knowing about the existence of them. Also, Bill said the goblins didn't mind his earring as long as he brought in a lot of treasure. So I think Bill and company will be ale to help Harry with some info on the Horcruxes. After all, anything associated with the Founders would be considered treasure(in one way or another). Maybe they have heard rumors of the tiara(much speculated Ravenclaw horcrux) or the Huflepuff cup. I think for this opportunity, JK will go into the wedding details.

However, as fun as it may be, I don't think Harry will be ging to France. JK just seems to British-centered. I would be shocked if Harry goes abroad. Just my opinion though. :p

Gormelia
August 4th, 2005, 12:39 pm
Can't you just see Ginny and Harry stealing away to the broomshed and secretly snogging....*giggle*

aoife
August 8th, 2005, 4:42 pm
i'm hoping for Hermione to catch the bouqeut or either tonks or madame maxime:p

Jasze
August 8th, 2005, 4:59 pm
I can see a bunch of veela cousins and Ron close to madness. :rotfl:

RemusLupinFan
August 9th, 2005, 4:41 pm
An interesting question regarding Bill and Fleur's wedding is who will Bill choose as his best man? Usually it is a brother, but Bill has 5 to choose from. I think we can rule out Percy. We can also rule out Fred and George because neither of them does anything that doesn't involve the other. That leaves Ron and Charlie. Though Charlie is closer in age to Bill, I’d like to see Ron be the best man, especially since he’s attracted to Fleur. Since it doesn’t sound like Gabrielle is going to be the maid of honor, I wonder who will take on that role.

I agree that Krum and Madame Maxime might attend- I think it would be interesting to see his reaction when he learns Hermione likes Ron.

General tradition is you hold the ceremony in the bride's hometown. Thus, I suspect are friends will be taking a trip across the English Channel in the next book.That would be nifty for them to travel to France for the wedding. :cool:

If there is a bouquet toss, my guess is that either Hermione or Ginny will catch it. Perhaps they will both have their wands out trying to Accio it.:lol: I’d like to see that. I’ll bet Ginny will catch it or accio it.

wandaXmaximof
August 9th, 2005, 6:55 pm
These two "Continental" wizards may bring a tie to Grindelwald.


how?!

CarlinLupin
August 9th, 2005, 7:46 pm
I would think there would have to be some conflict between ron/hermione/krum added because we didnt really see any closure with the hermione/krum relationship. He really really liked her and then all of a sudden krum wasnt really mentioned anymore. He was mentioned in Phoenix briefly because Hermione was writing to him but he wasnt mentioned in HBP at all. It would feel unfinished if JK didnt write anything about Krum and Hermiones feelings for eachother being resolved.

laugh_a_lot
August 9th, 2005, 9:49 pm
It could get interesting if Krum attends Fleur's and Bill's wedding. Ron's always been slightly jealous of Krum and Krum was very conserned in the 4th book when rumors went around about Harry and Hermione being together.

It would be funny if Hermione or Ginny caught the bouqeut but I hope Tonks catches it. It would be sweet for her and Lupin to settle down.

topazchelle
August 10th, 2005, 5:37 am
Ah man, I had the idea to make this thread but oh well... guess my creativity's a bit slow. Anyway,
If there is anything like tossing the bouquet, my bet is that either Hermione or Ginny will catch it. They may both have their wands out trying to Accio it.

I also thought that it'd be cute if Tonks caught it. I mean, Ginny or Hermione could too but I think it makes more sense for someone who is older to.

JStock
August 10th, 2005, 5:59 am
The part I don't think anyone has mentioned yet are Bill's co-workers. He was the curse-breaker for Gringott's, right? So he must know a lot of people who have higly specialized wizarding skills. ...
So I think Bill and company will be ale to help Harry with some info on the Horcruxes. After all, anything associated with the Founders would be considered treasure(in one way or another). Maybe they have heard rumors of the tiara(much speculated Ravenclaw horcrux) or the Huflepuff cup. I think for this opportunity, JK will go into the wedding details.


Hmmm...never thought of that before. I was wondering how Jo was going to write in retrieving all those horcruxes. But if there are Gringott's curse breakers on the job...or if the goblins have a treasure already locked in a vault somewhere. And you know, she did mention the dragons and how hard it is to break into Gringott's in PS/SS; there must have been a reason. Is it possible that Harry, Bill, Ron, Hermione, etc. will end up trying to get something out of Gringott's?

...way off the wedding idea. However, I agree that for the sole purpose of introducing other curse-breakers and possibly more OotP members, she'll need to write out the wedding (my guess is chapter 3)...

houseelf25
August 10th, 2005, 7:19 pm
i think it would be hilarius if krum showed up, just because of ron's jealousy...i can see ron trying to beat him up now...and then ron and hermione finally get together...that would be awesome!
and maybe hermione will be jealous of all of the half-veelas and ron...that would give her a chance to really show ron that she likes him, and for once he'll get it.
as for the boquet, i agree with the others that tonks, ginny and hermione will be fighting over it, just cause all the "accio"-ing would be great.

Mishlo
August 10th, 2005, 7:57 pm
I think that Bill and Fleur's wedding won't be much of a big deal. However, I do think that something important (besides the wedding) will occur. It would be similar to the chapter in GoF where there is the Quidditch WorldCup... pretty similar

s0ng0han
August 10th, 2005, 8:02 pm
i think it would be hilarius if krum showed up, just because of ron's jealousy...i can see ron trying to beat him up now...and then ron and hermione finally get together...that would be awesome!
and maybe hermione will be jealous of all of the half-veelas and ron...that would give her a chance to really show ron that she likes him, and for once he'll get it.
as for the boquet, i agree with the others that tonks, ginny and hermione will be fighting over it, just cause all the "accio"-ing would be great.

i hope everything thats said here also! :lol:
i cant wait for Ron and Krum to come face-to-face, what a laugh that will be!

zwammy
August 11th, 2005, 12:25 am
People keep saying Krum will be there, but I can't see why. Harry was a fellow Tri-Wizard Champion, but he hasn't stayed close to either Fleur or Krum. Maybe it's just because JKR has said we'll see more of Krum and this is the only way they think he can be worked back in? :huh:

You have a good point here, because regardless of the fact that Krum and Fleur were in the Tri-wizard tournament together, there is nothing showing that him and Fleur were bosom buddies. In fact, I don't see Fleur liking Krum much at all, since he wasn't a poster boy for handsome heroes and had a sour demeanor. I don't recall hearing anything about Bill knowing Krum, so I can't see an invite from that quarter. If Harry is traveling to find the Horcruxes, I think there will be plenty of reasons for Harry to see Krum at some point without making up elaborate plot devices to have the two meet.

JStock
August 11th, 2005, 1:06 am
For such a simple family, the Weasleys will have a lot of famous & important people at this wedding...Harry, Krum (arguably), Dumbledore would've been there, most of the Hogwarts staff, lots of aurors including the well-known Mad Eye, lots of MoM staff and personelle, and possibly the Minister of Magic himself (beause of all the other important people showing up).

maelynn
August 11th, 2005, 4:44 am
you know, i didnt give much thought to the wedding. i figured jkr would start the book and the wedding would have already happened, since there is a war- they'd move the wedding along real quick- or else she would not mention much about it, except for harry's role. after all, she has got a lot to answer in one final book. but after reading these sepculations, i would love to see her write it! fred and george's role i am sure would be hilarious. and the hermione/ ron thing would be great as well. and i think i would like to see tonks -and her pink hair- catch the boquet! ha ha!

shelbell32
August 13th, 2005, 2:42 am
I am so curious about wizard/witch weddings. I do hope there are a few pages devoted to the descripton of what takes place.

Do they say a certain vow that is actually a magical contract?

What other rituals would be involved. Fleur mentioned that Ginny and Gabrielle will be in the wedding.

I can see wands being used to direct doves or maybe owls overhead.

Will a minister or preacher (or who marries wizards and witches?) be used?

Do they walk down the aisle?

I just think it would probably be something different but very sweet.

JStock
August 13th, 2005, 6:46 am
Do they say a certain vow that is actually a magical contract?

Oooh...I like that idea! And it makes sense because the only couples we hear of have died or are still married. Doesn't seem to be much divorce in the wizarding community....

hermy_weasley2
August 13th, 2005, 5:38 pm
Oooh...I like that idea! And it makes sense because the only couples we hear of have died or are still married. Doesn't seem to be much divorce in the wizarding community....

The marriage between Merope And Tom Riddle failed even if there was no real divorce.

The only thing about wizard marriages being magical contracts is that some wizards marry Muggles like Merope and Seamus Finnigan's mother. Would it work the same then?

I do think it'll be interesting to see how they work though.

janastasia
August 14th, 2005, 6:25 pm
I always pictured that a peaceful scene wear Hermione presents them with the cure to werewolf bites she's been working on all summer, forcing her and Fluer into an eventual friendship. :blush:

Leefy
August 14th, 2005, 7:56 pm
I doubt JK will go that way. It would be pointless and sorta of heartless. The wedding is going to be one of the only calm things in the chapter. They wouldn't tell Snape about the wedding, since it really isn't important.


It wouldn't be pointless for Voldemort to attack those close to Harry once more. Plus it would be heartless, but as JKR keeps saying, the books are not children books, so I would suspect something dark like this.

They might not directly tell Snape, but I think he'd overhear it at least once at a meeting, or perhaps while they discussed security for the wedding at one of the meetings?

I bet Bill and Fleur would like to debate the importance of the wedding :) And it has to be important - Harry will be there (assuming it happens).

xuz
August 14th, 2005, 8:09 pm
I hope that Ginny gets the bouquet xD
and as the prefect said she will probably accio it.

About the wedding. I really expect some action after it, not in it.

I hope that Ron and Hermione get on together before Harry arrives to The burrow.
Then when harry sees Ginny his stomach will go mad hah...I really hope they get on together again :)

seawhitelady
September 9th, 2005, 6:24 am
I am so curious about wizard/witch weddings. I do hope there are a few pages devoted to the descripton of what takes place.

Do they say a certain vow that is actually a magical contract?

What other rituals would be involved. Fleur mentioned that Ginny and Gabrielle will be in the wedding.

I can see wands being used to direct doves or maybe owls overhead.

Will a minister or preacher (or who marries wizards and witches?) be used?

Do they walk down the aisle?

I just think it would probably be something different but very sweet.

I agree with everyone that thinks there will be a chapter devoted to the wedding and I am looking forward to it too. This would be the first wizarding wedding in HP series! JKR has never given us, nor Harry, all gloom and doom and she has shown us romances already. How "magic" to have a wedding? And oh the possibilities! Fleurs family will probably be paying, we haven't heard if they are rich. Whatever I am sure JKR will give us some amazing magic, some amazing info on guests, something of France and some developments in relationships from the end of HBP!! Bouquet catching, bridesmaids, groomsmen, wedding feast, presents (will there be a horacrux there?)!!!
yours in fun
seawhitelady

Lady_L
September 20th, 2005, 4:53 am
I'm torn. There are several instances of things happening when groups are gathered--Halloween in SS/PS, the troll; rouge bludger during Quidditch in CoS; dementor attack also at Quidditch match in PoA; post-Quidditch World Cup Dark Mark and portal to LV at the end of the maze both in GoF (there are many big gathers in this book and something imporatant seems to happen at each). The only instance (that I can recall off hand) where a large group of wizards and witches are gathered and seemingly nothing (bad) happens is DD's funeral. Yes there are other Quidditch matches where nothing terrible happens, but either someone is missing (ie Harry) or it is not described in as great detail as other moments. The QWC (including pre and post game activities) is about 80 pages of GoF.

Based on the trend, I'd say it doesn't look good for a peaceful wedding. Most likely something will happen after the wedding (either there or elsewhere) or they will recieve news of something that happens and must rush off to fight. It will pull everyone out of a feel-good moment and wrench them back to reality. Kind of a Gone With the Wind moment when the messenger shows up at the Bar-be-que/party and drags all the men off in a frenzy to sign up and fight the North. They leave an idyllic setting (a party and ball on the beautiful grounds of an historic mansion) and enter the horrors of war.

Another trend that points to this is the loss of refuge places for Harry. In PoA, he gains a refuge in his godfather (Sirius first asks that Harry come live with him) and loses it in OOTP when Kreacher betrays them--Harry does not see Grimmauld Place as a safe place after the death of Sirius. Hogwarts is the first place Harry really calls home and it is now compromised by the betrayal of Draco and Snape and DD's death. (Harry may never return there either, or so he says.) We know #4 Privet Drive has always been a sanctuary for Harry from his wizard foes, but he loses that when he turns 17, at the beginning of book 7 (I doubt he would feel obliged to return). The final refuge is the Burrow. If the wedding takes place at the Burrow, as I believe was said in HBP, IMO something bad has to happen and Harry will lose his final refuge, the Burrow Perhaps Harry must lose those closest to him and be without a place to hide before he faces LV.

YellowRose
September 20th, 2005, 9:51 am
I really hope to see Ginny and Gabrielle get up to some funny mischief as the bridesmaids, and to become firm friends. I'm sure we will also see Ginny warming to Fleur and welcoming her to the family as a much needed other female Weasley.
I hope somebody gets a little too drunk and makes a fool of themselves, just like at a real wedding. I hope to see a wonderfully magical wedding cake, with real fairfolk as the cake topper. Do any of you remember that Tom & Jerry cartoon where Jerry 'dances' with place names that resemble ladies, on a large table? Well I can imagine the fairfolk dancing on top of the wedding cake rather like that.
I also hope to see Percy come back into the family fold... after the twins have played a joke or two on him. :evil:

DaRkWoLF
September 20th, 2005, 10:53 am
I really hope to see Ginny and Gabrielle get up to some funny mischief as the bridesmaids, and to become firm friends. I'm sure we will also see Ginny warming to Fleur and welcoming her to the family as a much needed other female Weasley.
I hope somebody gets a little too drunk and makes a fool of themselves, just like at a real wedding. I hope to see a wonderfully magical wedding cake, with real fairfolk as the cake topper. Do any of you remember that Tom & Jerry cartoon where Jerry 'dances' with place names that resemble ladies, on a large table? Well I can imagine the fairfolk dancing on top of the wedding cake rather like that.
I also hope to see Percy come back into the family fold... after the twins have played a joke or two on him. :evil:
that sounds awsome :) but i do belive that percy will come to the wedding even if its just cause scrimgeour yet again wants talk to harry. but otherwise that sounds awsome

MoonCrystal
September 20th, 2005, 11:41 am
I hope the wedding will be a nice break and just without any further happenings, but then, it really could come to a battle, but I don´t know if this is going to happen so, we´ll see about that...

hgrwfan
September 20th, 2005, 12:27 pm
I don't think this will happen. As someone said before Harry should have at least one day of piece. But I wonder what a wizard wedding will be like. I hope it is different than the type of weddings muggles have. Aside from that, it could posibly take place at Hogwarts. Wouldn't that be neat. Plus it is pretty safe as long as Draco cannot get on the grounds.

beno
September 20th, 2005, 1:05 pm
I think it will be a nice occasion, i mean not only is the whole of the Order likely to be there, but also countless other wizards and witches, Bills friends, fleurs friends/family, Weasley family friends, many of whom will prob be from the ministry and Hogwarts staff. So im guessin LV doesnt have enough DE to guarantee a victory so will more than likely leave it alone. Besides hes shown a desire to wanting to kill Harry himself which he cant guarantee in a big battle tht would occur should he turn up to the wedding. So my guess is he'll wait and try to get Harry with fewer people around him.

LilCubanita67
September 20th, 2005, 1:41 pm
I don't think the 7th book will go into so much detail about the wedding. It will talk about it but I don't think that JKR would spend most of the book talking about the wedding, it would just be a small detail of the book, you know, with all of the questions that she needs to be answering from the previous books the wedding won't be a huge event.

Herminia
September 20th, 2005, 7:43 pm
Based on the trend, I'd say it doesn't look good for a peaceful wedding. Most likely something will happen after the wedding (either there or elsewhere) or they will recieve news of something that happens and must rush off to fight. It will pull everyone out of a feel-good moment and wrench them back to reality. Kind of a Gone With the Wind moment when the messenger shows up at the Bar-be-que/party and drags all the men off in a frenzy to sign up and fight the North. They leave an idyllic setting (a party and ball on the beautiful grounds of an historic mansion) and enter the horrors of war.

I think the wedding itself will be peaceful, but I too think that immediately afterward, perhaps when everyone is a bit tipsy from partying, they will receive bad news. The Azkaban Break-out could happen then.

PotionA
September 20th, 2005, 10:21 pm
I think the wedding itself will be peaceful, but I too think that immediately afterward, perhaps when everyone is a bit tipsy from partying, they will receive bad news. The Azkaban Break-out could happen then.

Nah I don't think it'll be peaceful at all. If Vicky makes an appearance, there's a high chance of some R/Hr goodies to occur :D. But I like idea of a bad news reaching the wedding afterwards. Maybe an attack in the Ministry of Magic or a death of a prominent figure in the wizarding community.

Stahlgeist
September 21st, 2005, 1:29 am
My Predictions:

- A Bouquet will be tossed, and it'll be caught by none other than...Grawp, who will look surprised before promptly eating it.

- The Death Eaters will show up, in a scene like this...

Minister: Do you, Bill Weas-?
Voice: AVADA KEDAVRA!
[Green jet of light hits minister, killing him instantly. Everyone looks around for the source of the attack.]
Ron: The bridesmaids! Look at the bridesmaids!
[Everyone turns to see Snape, Voldemort, and Lucius Malfoy wearing bridesmaid dresses, wands drawn. There's a moment of silence, before all of the guests burst out laughing at the sight of them.]
Snape: I knew I should've been the flowergirl.

- Tonks will stumble into the wedding cake, knocking it over and everyone gasps in horror as it comes crashing down on Arnold the Pygmy Puff. This'll probably be the most devastating death so far for the characters.

- The wedding is followed by an impromptu celebration that unites Aberforth and his most prized goat in marriage.

JStock
September 21st, 2005, 3:11 am
I think the wedding itself will be peaceful, but I too think that immediately afterward, perhaps when everyone is a bit tipsy from partying, they will receive bad news. The Azkaban Break-out could happen then.

That's what i've been predicting, too. LV knows that if he crashes the wedding, he doesn't stand much of a chance of winning. But if he causes mayhem elsewhere, it'll take a while for the aurors to get their drunken selves together enough to go stop him. Azkaban is a much better target than the Burrow.

heron4eva
September 21st, 2005, 6:14 pm
I'm hoping for one more day of peace, but realistically I think that the DEs will make an appearance after the ceremony, when everyones a bit tipsy. Hope Percy comes :)

DarkDaysAhead
September 26th, 2005, 2:23 pm
Mm, that heavily depends upon whether you think Snape is evil or not...which I don't.:)

I think things should go just fine. A happy moment before everything falls down, you know?:)

HBPmaniac
September 28th, 2005, 7:05 pm
i would love to see a nice and happy wedding as we know what we want in harry potter hardly comes true

blue3ski
September 29th, 2005, 2:35 pm
I really think that the wedding will be peaceful (well, as peaceful as it can possibly get). One last good day before the bad ones.

The wedding's going to be THE time for everyone to sort out the romantic stuff and get it out of the way, so there'll be no distraction from the real important things to be dealt with

Capt_Obvious
September 29th, 2005, 5:53 pm
I really think that the wedding will be peaceful (well, as peaceful as it can possibly get). One last good day before the bad ones.

The wedding's going to be THE time for everyone to sort out the romantic stuff and get it out of the way, so there'll be no distraction from the real important things to be dealt with
I think that's probably right.

PotionA
September 29th, 2005, 10:43 pm
The wedding's going to be THE time for everyone to sort out the romantic stuff and get it out of the way, so there'll be no distraction from the real important things to be dealt with

I agree. Ron and Hermione will FINALLY get together at the wedding. A dance or two should do the trick :D. Harry might be stunned for an hour or so when he sees Ginny in her bridesmaid dress and he asks her for a dance, maybe a bit of snogging, Harry might consider getting back with her but he ends up asking her to wait for him :D.

Aahh I'm such a romantic at heart....pffftt.

HBP_395
September 29th, 2005, 10:44 pm
Some how they will not marry

ElectricJello00
September 30th, 2005, 3:01 am
Well, I wonder if Bill will be feeling up to it and what will happen to him after being bitten by whats his face, Greyback or something like that.

PotionA
September 30th, 2005, 10:04 am
Well, I wonder if Bill will be feeling up to it and what will happen to him after being bitten by whats his face, Greyback or something like that.

I'm sure Bill won't have any reservations seeing as Fleur has none herself. Bill and Fleur's wedding proves that love can exist in spite of a full blown war taking place, which is basically the whole point of the books, the downfall of evil through the power of love. Bill and Fleur are definitely getting married.

blue3ski
September 30th, 2005, 10:28 am
I agree. Ron and Hermione will FINALLY get together at the wedding. A dance or two should do the trick :D. Harry might be stunned for an hour or so when he sees Ginny in her bridesmaid dress and he asks her for a dance, maybe a bit of snogging, Harry might consider getting back with her but he ends up asking her to wait for him :D.

Aahh I'm such a romantic at heart....pffftt.

Oh, I adore that scenario! I'm a romantic too...:D Wonder how Krum factors into Book 7, though? You think it'll be here?

PotionA
September 30th, 2005, 10:44 am
Oh, I adore that scenario! I'm a romantic too... Wonder how Krum factors into Book 7, though? You think it'll be here?

Chances are he will be there because JKR said that we'll be seeing more of Vicky but didn't specify in which book. And I think Vicky will be the reason Ron starts indulging himself when he sees Hermione dancing with him and then he'll start talking loudly where he says he loves Hermione who drops Vicky and asks Ron for a dance.

blue3ski
September 30th, 2005, 11:03 am
I was kinda thinking a scenario wherein Hermione's dancing with Krum and finally Ron can't take it anymore, shoves our fave Bulgarian Seeker aside, and snogs Hermione senseless. :lol:

moonlite
September 30th, 2005, 2:41 pm
I was kinda thinking a scenario wherein Hermione's dancing with Krum and finally Ron can't take it anymore, shoves our fave Bulgarian Seeker aside, and snogs Hermione senseless. :lol: hehee :lol:

I hope that Bill and Fluer's wedding will offer some much-needed amusment and light-ness (and maybe a bit of romance) to balance out the darkness and angst of the book. I can't wait to see how Hermione and Ron finally come together... hopefully, it'll happen during the wedding. It would be the perfect atmosphere really... just take some jealously over Krum, some dancing and celebrations, and add maybe a glass or two Butterbeer... it really can't go wrong. :p

PotionA
September 30th, 2005, 9:44 pm
blue3skiI was kinda thinking a scenario wherein Hermione's dancing with Krum and finally Ron can't take it anymore, shoves our fave Bulgarian Seeker aside, and snogs Hermione senseless.

Sounds good but the problem is that Hermione might have a stroke or simply hex him to Jupiter if he does it so suddenly. Maybe Ron has a fight with Hermione (their final row) because she dances with Vicky and in the process, he loses his head completely and blurts out that he he loves her. And then the snogfest begins :D.

OwlPatronus
October 2nd, 2005, 3:01 pm
You're all hopeless, the lot of you, you know that? :p Ron and Hermione are already together.

My theory is that Death Eaters will crash the wedding and Harry will get over his Peter Parker syndrome and get back together with Ginny.
My reasoning: Harry and Ginny agreeing not to see each other was honestly really stupid, despite their good intentions. The wedding would be perfect for them to get back together: they have all the time during the preparations to be awkward with each other, and to be reminded by Mrs Weasley's clock that they are all in Mortal Peril anyway. Then, the death eaters burst in during the vows and force the issue: Harry realises that they are in so much danger no matter what they do that they should take advantage of the time they have. Anyway, that's my own romantic theory. Feel free to shred it.

blue3ski
October 2nd, 2005, 3:42 pm
You're all hopeless, the lot of you, you know that? :p Ron and Hermione are already together.

My theory is that Death Eaters will crash the wedding and Harry will get over his Peter Parker syndrome and get back together with Ginny.
My reasoning: Harry and Ginny agreeing not to see each other was honestly really stupid, despite their good intentions. The wedding would be perfect for them to get back together: they have all the time during the preparations to be awkward with each other, and to be reminded by Mrs Weasley's clock that they are all in Mortal Peril anyway. Then, the death eaters burst in during the vows and force the issue: Harry realises that they are in so much danger no matter what they do that they should take advantage of the time they have. Anyway, that's my own romantic theory. Feel free to shred it.

Actually, I am inclined to disagree--we haven't really seen stuff that proves this as a fact. Unless we are shown in the book that they are actually really boyfriend-and-girlfriend now, we are still free to speculate on what events would lead to their becoming a couple. In many of our opinions, the wedding is where things will finally happen and Ron and Hermione get together officially.

Also, I don't think the DEs storming the wedding would have much effect on bringing Harry and Ginny back together--it would, I'm afraid, make Harry push Ginny even further away because he believes that he is the reason why all this is happening and he wants to keep her safe.

IMO, what would bring Harry and Ginny back together is a peaceful, successful, romance-laden wedding wherein Harry sees how happy and sappy Bill and Fleur are, how happy Tonks and Remus are, and maybe how happy Ron and Hermione are--and he'll start thinking twice about his decision to break up with Ginny. Especially after he sees her in that bridesmaid dress. :lol:

OwlPatronus
October 3rd, 2005, 10:30 pm
Hmm, that's another option, I guess. It could be true, and I sure hope so because I don't want the wedding broken up. But it seems like the kind of thing the death eaters would do, and I think that something has to happen to make Harry break his personal commitment not to be with Ginny. But I don't think that something happening during the wedding would make Harry push Ginny away, it would put things in perspective. Remember, Ginny and Harry agreed not to see each other. Harry already knows that Ginny wouldn't care about being in danger, but he thinks that if he stays away from her she will be safe. All this despite the fact that he has seen, over the year Voldemort has been in the open, that noone is really safe and that in fact every single member of the Weasley family is already in mortal peril, so his seeing her doesn't really put her in any more danger than she is in already. He is in serious need of some perspective, and I think that the death eaters at the wedding would be very good for this. It wouldn't be his fault, and he'd know it, but it happened anyway.

PotionA
October 3rd, 2005, 10:32 pm
My theory is that Death Eaters will crash the wedding and Harry will get over his Peter Parker syndrome and get back together with Ginny.
My reasoning: Harry and Ginny agreeing not to see each other was honestly really stupid, despite their good intentions. The wedding would be perfect for them to get back together: they have all the time during the preparations to be awkward with each other, and to be reminded by Mrs Weasley's clock that they are all in Mortal Peril anyway. Then, the death eaters burst in during the vows and force the issue: Harry realises that they are in so much danger no matter what they do that they should take advantage of the time they have. Anyway, that's my own romantic theory. Feel free to shred it.

Nah the wedding will be peaceful. It's a perfect scenario for Ron and Hermione to get together. A few drinks or two, the twins' constant teasings, Aunt Muriel trying to kiss him and throw in Vicky and you have yourself a classic R/Hr row, only this time, it will lead to some snogging. And I don't think JKR would just make them go out without announcing it officially. She's built them up to be a romantic pair (and Harry best friends) from book 1, which means she has to conclude it.

I agree that it was stupid on Harry's part to break up with Ginny because the poor boy obviously didn't realize that she's in danger even without him. The wedding is a perfect place for them to get back and everything also but theirs is a classical romance story where the hero goes on a quest leaving the damsel behind and coming back home after the war and into his lady's arms. I'm sure that Harry's resolution will be put to the test when he sees Ginny at the wedding. They might have a little talk where Ginny tries persuading him to take her along in the quest, maybe some snogginng and then Harry asks her to wait for him, which I'm sure will be quite simple for Ginny since she's been love with him for years.

Rythmelody
October 3rd, 2005, 11:36 pm
I can't wait to see if the twins get up to any hi-jinks at the wedding to liven the proceedings up - i love those two!

PotionA
October 4th, 2005, 12:34 am
Ah yes the twins. A scene with the twins is incomplete without them causing a bit of trouble :D. They might play an important part in bringing Ron and Hermione together by pulling a joke or something. Now that would be so much fun to read.

johnthesavage
October 4th, 2005, 6:04 am
You're all hopeless, the lot of you, you know that? :p Ron and Hermione are already together.

My theory is that Death Eaters will crash the wedding and Harry will get over his Peter Parker syndrome and get back together with Ginny.
My reasoning: Harry and Ginny agreeing not to see each other was honestly really stupid, despite their good intentions. The wedding would be perfect for them to get back together: they have all the time during the preparations to be awkward with each other, and to be reminded by Mrs Weasley's clock that they are all in Mortal Peril anyway. Then, the death eaters burst in during the vows and force the issue: Harry realises that they are in so much danger no matter what they do that they should take advantage of the time they have. Anyway, that's my own romantic theory. Feel free to shred it.


I agree with you,,to some degree. I give you a high-five for recognizing that Ron and hermoine are already together because not many out there seem to recognize that fact. I also think that Harry needs to get over his Peter Parker syndrome and realize that by putting Ginny away is the worst way to protect her, she will get into trouble anyway, that is one of the things that he likes about her. They will get together. The method is where I disagree with you. I cannot forsee the Death Eaters at the wedding. I think that will transpire in peace. I also think it may take some portion of the book for Harry to realize that he needs Ginny with him to beat Voldy. There is my romantic theory.

blue3ski
October 4th, 2005, 12:16 pm
I agree with you,,to some degree. I give you a high-five for recognizing that Ron and hermoine are already together because not many out there seem to recognize that fact.

May I ask, why do you think Ron and Hermione are already a couple?

Hmm, that's another option, I guess. It could be true, and I sure hope so because I don't want the wedding broken up. But it seems like the kind of thing the death eaters would do, and I think that something has to happen to make Harry break his personal commitment not to be with Ginny. But I don't think that something happening during the wedding would make Harry push Ginny away, it would put things in perspective. Remember, Ginny and Harry agreed not to see each other. Harry already knows that Ginny wouldn't care about being in danger, but he thinks that if he stays away from her she will be safe. All this despite the fact that he has seen, over the year Voldemort has been in the open, that noone is really safe and that in fact every single member of the Weasley family is already in mortal peril, so his seeing her doesn't really put her in any more danger than she is in already. He is in serious need of some perspective, and I think that the death eaters at the wedding would be very good for this. It wouldn't be his fault, and he'd know it, but it happened anyway.

On the contrary, I think the DEs will think twice about doing this. I'm quite certain the Order somehow suspects an act like such, and they will most definitely be on guard. Besides, it would be difficult for the DEs--they would be facing off against the entire Order, all of which are not shabby witches and warlocks.

Harry will feel even more guilty because the DEs crashed and ruined the wedding of those he considers kin and shy even farther away--he believes and knows that this is done to hurt him as well as weaken the Light Side. It is known that Harry's nearest and dearest are to be at the wedding--what better way to intimidate him than attacking/even taking prisoner his friends? Harry pushed Ginny away initially not because he thought the DEs would leave her alone at that point--but because they knew she was special to him. If the Order and the Weasleys--people who are equally important to him--were attacked at the wedding, this would convince Harry even more to isolate himself before anything else happens. He's not the type to think "Oh well, everyone else in danger anyway, so why deprive myself?" He knows they're in danger, but that doesn't mean he lets them just walk into it--he wants to keep them as far from the path of it as possible.

IMO, for Harry to be nudged into reversing his decision, Harry needs to see a reason why he should. And as he sees the couples surrounding him, rejoicing in love and affection, he will find himself missing that which he used to know and feel. And Ginny, right there before him looking more beautiful than ever, and Ron and Hermione by his side (both of whom will tell him he's being silly ala Mrs. Weasley), it would be the perfect time for Harry and his ladylove to fall into each other's arms once again.

True_Seer
October 4th, 2005, 7:34 pm
I wouldn't think there'd be any violnce at the wedding as not many people will know of it, only the Weasley's, Fleurs family and a few order members. It's not the right time or place for any type of battle.

OwlPatronus
October 4th, 2005, 9:20 pm
I admit it, you're probably right. But it was an option after all, and I hadn't heard it before. I was just worried about the death eaters because they seem to strike in the places that will upset people the most when they hear about them. I would definitely love a peacful wedding, and it has the potential to be a complete stich, particularly with Fred and George. While we're adding things to the mix at the wedding though, what happens if Percy shows up?

Jenn1182
October 4th, 2005, 9:27 pm
I don't think there will be an attack at the wedding, but maybe something strange will happen. Or one of the guests will be suspcious. Something that peaks interest, but doesn't take over the whole happy tone of the wedding. There has to be some bright spot in the book.

PotionA
October 4th, 2005, 9:55 pm
I admit it, you're probably right. But it was an option after all, and I hadn't heard it before. I was just worried about the death eaters because they seem to strike in the places that will upset people the most when they hear about them. I would definitely love a peacful wedding, and it has the potential to be a complete stich, particularly with Fred and George. While we're adding things to the mix at the wedding though, what happens if Percy shows up?

The wedding's going to be the last peaceful, not to mention entertaining, get together for the Trio, the Weasleys and everyone else before Harry sets off on his quest. I'm guessing that the wedding will be set during their summer holidays, which is at the beginning of the book, and I think we would see the fights and duels with the Death Eaters later on, like in the middle.

As for Percy, he'll make an appearance with a girlfriend or fiance, and maybe she'll convince Percy to introduce her to his parents and somehow manage to resolve their differences.

OwlPatronus
October 4th, 2005, 10:34 pm
Who would possibly go out with Percy other then Penelope Clearwater? We haven't heard of her for ages, though I suppose she could make a surprise return. I don't see anyone who liked Percy enough to marry him being the most likely person to get him and Mrs Weasley back together though. It's a nice idea though.

blue3ski
October 5th, 2005, 12:38 pm
I must say I'm of two minds about Percy's going to the wedding. On one hand, it'd be nice to see him humble himself and reunite with his family and truly be on their side again. On the other hand, I find this a dim possibility--Percy doesn't seem to have changed, and if he shows up at the wedding to announce his engagement to Scrimgeour ( :rotfl: ) he'll be leaving with more than mashed parsnip on his glasses.

OwlPatronus
October 6th, 2005, 2:43 am
XD Yeah, or for that matter if he got engaged to Penelope and didn't tell his parents. That would do it to: Fred and George would probably put aging potion in his wine or something hillarious like that.

missypotter
October 6th, 2005, 4:15 am
I think the wedding will be peaceful. It is at the beginning of the book and usually she warms up to the violence. I think it will be one of the few normal events in the book. If the tiara (horcruxe) is the one the Weasleys have, there could be some trouble, but not a full out war.

I think the tiara is the one in the room of requirement storage room.

johnthesavage
October 6th, 2005, 5:08 am
Have you ever considered that this book is going to throw normal trends out the widow. In other words, I heard once that this book can be considered like a continuation of book six and there is no justification for thinking that just because the wedding is going to be at the beginning of the book that there is going to be peace there.
And what is this about a tiara, I have never read anything about any tiara

blue3ski
October 6th, 2005, 8:23 am
Have you ever considered that this book is going to throw normal trends out the widow. In other words, I heard once that this book can be considered like a continuation of book six and there is no justification for thinking that just because the wedding is going to be at the beginning of the book that there is going to be peace there.
And what is this about a tiara, I have never read anything about any tiara

Why not? It is a time of war, yes, but there are periods of peace as well. Saying that just because Book 7 is to be considered a "part 2" to HBP is not a good reason for saying that the wedding won't be peaceful either.

A tiara is mentioned in the hospital wing scene after the Hogwarts attack by Mrs. Weasley:

"Our Great-Auntie Muriel," said Mrs. Weasley after a long pause, "has a very lovely tiara--goblin-made--which I am sure I could persuade her to lend you for the wedding. She is very fond of Bill, you know, and it would look lovely with your hair."--HBP Chapter 29: The Phoenix Lament

and when Harry's trying to find a place to temporarily hide his Potions book

Seizing the chipped bust of an ugly old warlock from on top of a nearby crate, he stood it on top of the cupboard where the book was now hidden, perched a dusty wig and a tarnished tiara on the statue's head to make it more distinctive, then sprinted back through the alleyways of hidden junk as fast as he could go, back to the door, back out onto the corridor, where he slammed the door behind him, and it turned at once back into stone.--HBP Chapter 24: Sectumsempra

Also, missypotter , I don't think the RoR tiara and this one are similar, as they are described differently. The RoR one was said to be tarnished, which I don't think is Mrs. Weasley's idea of 'very lovely'.

PotionA
October 6th, 2005, 4:43 pm
Have you ever considered that this book is going to throw normal trends out the widow. In other words, I heard once that this book can be considered like a continuation of book six and there is no justification for thinking that just because the wedding is going to be at the beginning of the book that there is going to be peace there.

Yeah JKR said that HBP and book 7 are like one entire book. And there is a certain pattern in all the HP books where in the beginning, we see a miserable and bored Harry at Privet Drive where something odd happens which makes him leave the place and heads off straight to the wizarding world, may it be the Weasleys, Diagon Alley and so on. That part of his year is the most peaceful for Harry where he gets to lighten up and have fun before he starts his term at Hogwarts where he's bombarded with problems and worries. I'm guessing the wedding will take place right after he leaves the Dursleys for good and joins the Weasleys.

OwlPatronus
October 7th, 2005, 1:36 am
Yeah that's true, but it strikes me that if you really wanted to throw readers a surprise right hook, you would set people up to expect a peacful wedding, and have the time before (Harry, Ron, AND Hermione at the Dursleys), and even the wedding, a hillarious and peacful time and then, right at the end, BANG! Something goes horribly wrong like has happened so many times in the books. It's just the sort of thing the death eaters would do, isn't it? Strike when and where it's least expected at the sort of event that will upset people the most? Combine that with the fact that at least some of the order will be present, and I think that the wedding is a dangerously tempting target. Sorry for sounding like Moody, but there it is: weddings are targets for terror attacks.

PotionA
October 7th, 2005, 10:19 am
Yeah that's true, but it strikes me that if you really wanted to throw readers a surprise right hook, you would set people up to expect a peacful wedding, and have the time before (Harry, Ron, AND Hermione at the Dursleys), and even the wedding, a hillarious and peacful time and then, right at the end, BANG! Something goes horribly wrong like has happened so many times in the books. It's just the sort of thing the death eaters would do, isn't it? Strike when and where it's least expected at the sort of event that will upset people the most? Combine that with the fact that at least some of the order will be present, and I think that the wedding is a dangerously tempting target. Sorry for sounding like Moody, but there it is: weddings are targets for terror attacks.

If the Death Eaters do attack at the wedding, the Trio and Ginny won't be directly affected by it and thus we'll miss out on the action. They'll be taken into hiding like they were in the Quidditch World Cup and the Order members will sort it out. But I doubt this will happen because Harry needs to have a little bit of peaceful time before he plunges himself into the dark and dangerous mission that lay ahead of him and the wedding is the perfect scenario to give him that.

hermy_weasley2
October 7th, 2005, 7:59 pm
Have you ever considered that this book is going to throw normal trends out the widow. In other words, I heard once that this book can be considered like a continuation of book six and there is no justification for thinking that just because the wedding is going to be at the beginning of the book that there is going to be peace there.

The biggest difference between HBP and book 7 is that the Trio supposedly won't be at Hogwarts anymore. Harry's time at the Burrow was never the only peace he had in the other books because he had the distraction of school and Quidditch and everything. Now that none of them will have that, the book could get much, much darker which would mean a lot of the funnier, lighter characters like Ron and the twins would have to be taken out of character too much. There needs to be something to lighten things up.And I hope it's more than just the wedding.


If the Death Eaters do attack at the wedding, the Trio and Ginny won't be directly affected by it and thus we'll miss out on the action. They'll be taken into hiding like they were in the Quidditch World Cup and the Order members will sort it out.

They're older now, though. Ron and Hermione are both of age and by the wedding Harry probably will be too. They can't really be told what to do anymore by the Order members, and, assuming Hogwarts stays closed and they really aren't going back, Molly can't use her "they're still in school" argument.

Like you said though, I don't think it's going to happen.

PotionA
October 7th, 2005, 8:34 pm
They're older now, though. Ron and Hermione are both of age and by the wedding Harry probably will be too. They can't really be told what to do anymore by the Order members, and, assuming Hogwarts stays closed and they really aren't going back, Molly can't use her "they're still in school" argument.

That's true though. Yeah the Trio can fight but Ginny can't because she'll be sixteen then. But the point is that the wedding has the potential to be a magnet for humor and lighthearted moments. After that, Harry is going to plunge himself into a dangerous journey where he'll hardly have time to laugh. Every book in the HP series, no matter how dark it was, always had its moments of laughter and comic relief and I can totally see the wedding supplying us with that, leaving no room for Death Eaters surprises or Dementor attacks.

Sly_Lady
October 7th, 2005, 10:19 pm
Yeah that's true, but it strikes me that if you really wanted to throw readers a surprise right hook, you would set people up to expect a peacful wedding, and have the time before (Harry, Ron, AND Hermione at the Dursleys), and even the wedding, a hillarious and peacful time and then, right at the end, BANG! Something goes horribly wrong like has happened so many times in the books. It's just the sort of thing the death eaters would do, isn't it? Strike when and where it's least expected at the sort of event that will upset people the most? Combine that with the fact that at least some of the order will be present, and I think that the wedding is a dangerously tempting target. Sorry for sounding like Moody, but there it is: weddings are targets for terror attacks.
You know, JKR can do whatever she wants, but I think it'll really stink if after having his face chewed to bits by a psycho werewolf, Bill doesn't get to marry his beloved Phlegm without any major hitches. I think the wedding will be the perfect setting for the trio to spend a bit of time carefully planning out their moves. Of course the plan will be useless as the action kicks in, but I hope Bill and the Mrs. manage to get a bit of snogging in before all heck breaks loose!

NYCwitch920
October 8th, 2005, 12:41 am
I doubt JKR would make the wedding a battle scene. By the way she put it into the book, it seems as though there won't be much to worry about during the wedding. It's probably going to be the happiest moment in the book and I think Jo would give Harry a bit of a break (at least for that one chapter). Hopefully.

aia124
October 8th, 2005, 1:54 am
Don't forget, Jo has stated that the 6th and 7th books are more like one book divided into two parts, so if there was an epic battle in the beginning, it would be more like the middle of the book. I think it is possible it might happen, though I hope not.

blue3ski
October 8th, 2005, 2:24 pm
You know, JKR can do whatever she wants, but I think it'll really stink if after having his face chewed to bits by a psycho werewolf, Bill doesn't get to marry his beloved Phlegm without any major hitches.

:lol:

PotionA
October 8th, 2005, 7:22 pm
You know, JKR can do whatever she wants, but I think it'll really stink if after having his face chewed to bits by a psycho werewolf, Bill doesn't get to marry his beloved Phlegm without any major hitches. I think the wedding will be the perfect setting for the trio to spend a bit of time carefully planning out their moves. Of course the plan will be useless as the action kicks in, but I hope Bill and the Mrs. manage to get a bit of snogging in before all heck breaks loose!

I agree. Poor Bill needs some peace of mind also especially after undergoing the trauma of getting bitten by a psycho werewolf.

JStock
October 8th, 2005, 9:07 pm
I still think that the Death Eaters will somehow crash the reception. Bill will get to marry his beautiful Fleur, and they may even sneak off for a bit (so that by the end of book seven we can have another Weasly join the clan...possibly to replace it's fallen father? Or Uncle Ron? Or Uncles Percy, Charlie, Fred, or George?)

But I think there will be too much going on during the wedding for LV to remain calm. If nothing else, with all those aurors in one place, there could be an Azkaban break-out.

PotionA
October 8th, 2005, 9:17 pm
But I think there will be too much going on during the wedding for LV to remain calm. If nothing else, with all those aurors in one place, there could be an Azkaban break-out.

There might be an Azkaban break out, an attack on muggles and so on but I doubt anything bad will happen in the wedding, unless you count Fred Geroge's jokes which might disrupt the occassion slightly.

yarddog1
October 9th, 2005, 1:37 am
I think the wedding will happen but before it i think some tragidy will occur.

OwlPatronus
October 9th, 2005, 10:01 pm
Actually, I think the the wedding will go peacfully and swimmingly right until the very very end, at which point everything is going to go wrong. Think about it: if the death eaters find out about the wedding (so I really hope it's secret) it would be stupid of them not to attack it: all the important members of the order will be in the same place, and attacking weddings spreads terror which is what the death eaters are after. The only way I can see that they could avoid an attack is if they had the wedding at Grimmauld Place, what with it being unplottable and Fideliused and all. And even that has it's complications: The Fidelius Charm will really limit the guest list now that Dumbledore's dead and anyway, the place is ugly, grim, and old. Ah well.

johnthesavage
October 24th, 2005, 5:13 pm
I think the wedding will happen but before it i think some tragidy will occur.

I can see the wedding being the only normal peacful event that takes place. It will happen at the beggining of the book and will go over without hitch. (other than everyones surprise at catching Ron and Hermoine snogging, :eyebrows: )
There will be no death eaters here, but from the wedding, everyone will leave and start working on the plan to get rid of Voldemort.

Hogsmeade
October 24th, 2005, 7:52 pm
I think the wedding will go peacefully. After all, Dumbledore's funeral was jam-packed with members of the Order and that went OK. Plus, JKR wouldn't be so mean as to muck up a wedding.

emmawatson777
October 24th, 2005, 8:10 pm
Googled, didn't find, sorry merge if neccessary.

I was thinking about the first few chapters of the next book and it struck me that much death and violence could occur at Bill"s and Fleur's Wedding. I am sure Snape knew of their plans (since he is/was in the Order). What better way to take out a large group of your enemies than at a location where they are all gathered.

I fully expect a large battle to occur at the wedding and Harry to face more loss after this battle (I don't expect all the Weasly's to survive and many other Order members will probably perish as well).
Interesting, deej. It's not so clear that Snape would know of their wedding plans. Mrs. Weasley, up until the hospital scene, wasn't at all happy about them--and after that, she knows SNAPE IS EVIL. It is possible that Bill told them, but somehow I don't see him making a big announcement--maybe he'd tell a few members personally, but he wouldn't tell Snape.
But let's say Snape knows. So he's just going to blast into The Burrow with a few dozen Death Eaters to kill and plunder? Why? Harry, for one, is out for his blood. Most probably, the entire Order of the Phoenix will be there. So it would be a great risk to their lives. And for who? It's Voldemort's job to kill Harry; Snape (or DEs!) can't do it for him. If Voldemort wanted his Death Eaters to kill the Order, he would have had them do so at a meeting--which he knows the location of through Snape.
I really don't see this battle scene you picture happening at Bill and Fleur's wedding. Snape's in hiding until further instructions from Voldemort, who is not going to order all his Death Eaters into a potential death for all of them.

PotionA
October 24th, 2005, 9:41 pm
Interesting, deej. It's not so clear that Snape would know of their wedding plans. Mrs. Weasley, up until the hospital scene, wasn't at all happy about them--and after that, she knows SNAPE IS EVIL. It is possible that Bill told them, but somehow I don't see him making a big announcement--maybe he'd tell a few members personally, but he wouldn't tell Snape.
But let's say Snape knows. So he's just going to blast into The Burrow with a few dozen Death Eaters to kill and plunder? Why? Harry, for one, is out for his blood. Most probably, the entire Order of the Phoenix will be there. So it would be a great risk to their lives. And for who? It's Voldemort's job to kill Harry; Snape (or DEs!) can't do it for him. If Voldemort wanted his Death Eaters to kill the Order, he would have had them do so at a meeting--which he knows the location of through Snape.
I really don't see this battle scene you picture happening at Bill and Fleur's wedding. Snape's in hiding until further instructions from Voldemort, who is not going to order all his Death Eaters into a potential death for all of them.

It's a possibly scenario but I just can't see the wedding getting disrupted by Death Eater attacks or anything of the sort. Not that it will go smoothly from the beginning to the end especially with the twins on the loose, but it'll be where all the couples will settle their romantic issues, like Harry drooling over Ginny in her dress, having a dance or two and having their talk, Ron and Hermione finally getting together with Vicky in the vicinity and so on. It'll be filled with romantic drama IMO because the romance needs to be done and over with so that the rest of the book can focus on the Horcrux mission.

SSJ_Jup81
October 24th, 2005, 9:47 pm
I don't think anything is going to happen during Bill and Fleur's wedding. Now, after, that's a different story. ^^

Besides, like someone else said, Harry needs to have some peace before going into battle "to fight for love and justice."

I just got a goofy thought. :lol:

Harry: Potter...Power...MAKE UP!!

*Lights swirl around; Harry's robes change*

Voldemort: ??

*Harry is now wearing a Sailor Fuku, along with a Tiara with a Horcrux imbedded in it, posing*

Harry: I am Sailor Potter, and in the name of Dumbledore, I shall punish you!
Voldemort: WTH

*Would continue this and toss in Ron and Hermione, but is going way too OT* ^^

Maiore
October 24th, 2005, 9:48 pm
I think the wedding will go peaceful, well besides Mrs.Weasleys' tears of sadness but mistaken as tears of joy. :rotfl:

KiwiBird
October 24th, 2005, 10:54 pm
not sure if this is said already, but Voldemort is more the sneaky character in the wizarding dealings, the only times we have heard of him ordering his death eaters in full frontal attacks is against muggles, whenever we heard of wizarding murders it is always more sneaky, so i doubt we will be seeing a full frontal attack during the wedding, cause it is not only not JKR style, it is also not Voldemorts style ^^.

nivekllerttoc
October 24th, 2005, 11:13 pm
I think that this is where Harry and Ginny get together again...just a thought, and a hope.

johnthesavage
October 24th, 2005, 11:48 pm
I think that this is where Harry and Ginny get together again...just a thought, and a hope.

I sure think that it is possible, but I think that it is even more possible that Ron and Hermoine get together

GinnyRules
October 25th, 2005, 3:20 am
Yeah, Ron and Heermione forever :)

Another possibility is that they will get attacked by DE's.

OwlPatronus
October 25th, 2005, 3:30 am
My theory for the wedding is weird, because it's split between what I hope will happen and what I'm worried will happen. On the one hand, I hope it's some well deserved peace and proof that life goes on, even in wartime. So, I'd like to see some antics from the twins, etc as a contrast to all the dark stuff we will have to see the characters face. I also see it as the best hope for Harry and Ginny, and Ron and Hermione, to all get their relationships in order before going off and risking their lives.

But, on the other hand, Death Eaters attacking the wedding looks really likely to me, just because it's the kind of evil thing they do and because it makes so much tactical sense. When else are they going to have a chance to strike at all the members of the order at once? Normally all members of the order are dispersed and in various forms of hiding or security. The Death Eaters have the same problem fighting the order that the Order has fighting the death eaters: there is no centralized target at which to strike. The wedding, unfortunatly, gives them are target they would be stupid not to jump for. If the death eaters wanted to be really evil (as we all know they will) they would put Fleur under the Imperius Curse before the wedding and use her to help in the attack.

Of course, my problem is that I want the first of these theories to be true, but they both seem mutually contradictory and equally likely. Well, I'll find out.

PotionA
October 25th, 2005, 7:55 am
But, on the other hand, Death Eaters attacking the wedding looks really likely to me, just because it's the kind of evil thing they do and because it makes so much tactical sense. When else are they going to have a chance to strike at all the members of the order at once? Normally all members of the order are dispersed and in various forms of hiding or security. The Death Eaters have the same problem fighting the order that the Order has fighting the death eaters: there is no centralized target at which to strike. The wedding, unfortunatly, gives them are target they would be stupid not to jump for. If the death eaters wanted to be really evil (as we all know they will) they would put Fleur under the Imperius Curse before the wedding and use her to help in the attack.

Oh I like this scenario, especially Fleur being under the Imperius Curse. I can totally picture her saying "Oh Please! Die Bill!" when she's about to say "I do" :D. Anyway, it would be really cool to have the Death Eaters attack the wedding but my question is, why would Mr and Mrs Weasley and the rest of the Order members let Bill and Fleur get married at a place where they're all be vulnerable to Death Eater attacks. At a time of war, it's very likely that they'll keep the wedding location a secret or they may even have a Secret Keeper. That way the Death Eaters won't know anything about any wedding taking place in the wizarding world.

Plus, the attack during the wedding (which I'm guessing will take place during the summer before the start of term) doesn't fit in with the pattern of the books. Harry's time with the Weasleys have always been peaceful before he plunges himself into a year filled with anixiety and troubles at Hogwarts. And then after all the obstacles at school, he faces the final challenge in the end. Book 7 might have a different design where there might be attacks earlier on, in the middle perhaps, but I can't see it happening right at the beginning of the year.

johnthesavage
October 25th, 2005, 4:02 pm
I am of the thought that the death eaters will NOT be making any sort of apperance with the wedding. I agree with what OwlPatronus said about the wedding being proof that lives can be lived even during the times of war.
They were able to have an elegant ceremony for DD without DE's breaking up the event. They will be able to hide the wedding. Plus, if I were a death eater, would I want to go to a place where you can be sure the majority of the Order of the Phoenix will be located? That does not make any sense.

The wedding will be nice, the only nice event that happens for a while. Maybe we will see some other romantic connections. ie Ron/Hermione Harry/Ginny(not as likely)

CathyWeasley
November 10th, 2005, 7:04 pm
Plus, the attack during the wedding (which I'm guessing will take place during the summer before the start of term) doesn't fit in with the pattern of the books. Harry's time with the Weasleys have always been peaceful before he plunges himself into a year filled with anixiety and troubles at Hogwarts. And then after all the obstacles at school, he faces the final challenge in the end. Book 7 might have a different design where there might be attacks earlier on, in the middle perhaps, but I can't see it happening right at the beginning of the year.

I agree :agree:
I think the wedding will be the calm before the storm. Has anyone considered it might be a double wedding - Lupin & Tonks tie the knot at the same time. And then Harry and Ginny get together and Ron and Hermione.....:love: anice beginning to a dark book.

sargonofakkad
November 10th, 2005, 7:09 pm
I don't think that this will happen. The wedding will be a way of starting out on a happy note to be dashed to pieces by something utterly horrible shortly afterwards.

Selene Sedai
November 11th, 2005, 2:30 am
i disagree.. i think the wedding will be a lovely gathering.. the death eaters don't know where it is. and i should like it if Fluer's family were invited as well.. always thought gabrielle was good. and her grandmother is a veela.

are they having the wedding at the burrow? they will probably make the spot unplottable.

OwlPatronus
November 11th, 2005, 12:10 pm
XD I can just picture Rons face if Fleur's grandmother turns up. Here he was, planning to have a nice time with Hermione, only to be dazed by a kind of magic he's particularly succeptible too. In fact, I can see him leaving the room so he doesn't do something stupid in front of Hermione. She got annoyed enough at him for that before they were going out.

Bratanimus
November 11th, 2005, 12:17 pm
Has anyone considered it might be a double wedding - Lupin & Tonks tie the knot at the same time. And then Harry and Ginny get together and Ron and Hermione.....:love: anice beginning to a dark book.Hee hee! :lol: I like it! Let's start a movement to encourage Lupin and Tonks to get hitched! :tu:

Actually, I'll bet Lupin wouldn't want to detract from Bill and Fleur's "moment" (not to mention that Fleur probably wouldn't hear of it!). :rotfl:

Isobel
November 11th, 2005, 12:53 pm
When I think about Fleur and Bill's wedding, I can't help thinking of the Disney version of Sleeping Beauty when the fairies have given Princess Aurora her christening gifts (beauty etc...) and then the mean bad fairy turns up and ruins everything.

I can see Bellatrix in this role - after all, she is related to Bill - she might think she warrants an invitation...

oooh what if Fleur brings all her Veela relatives? Sounds interesting...

Desraelda
November 11th, 2005, 1:09 pm
Hee hee! :lol: I like it! Let's start a movement to encourage Lupin and Tonks to get hitched! :tu:

Actually, I'll bet Lupin wouldn't want to detract from Bill and Fleur's "moment" (not to mention that Fleur probably wouldn't hear of it!). :rotfl:
Yeah, that would be a good excuse. Something tells me Lupin is still a bit skittish about the whole thing.

I'm hoping that Bill and Fleur's wedding is a peaceful, lovely occasion, where Molly can weep to her heart's content.

The most trouble there will be is between Ginny and Harry. I can see a few wonderful Ginny moments (aided and abetted by Hermione) where Ginny, looking gorgeous in her bridesmaid robes floats serenely down the aisle to torment Harry. To make things worse, Hermione will say things like ... Ooooh, I've never seen Ginny look so beautiful.

Then Ginny will find a particularly handsome young man to bat her eyelashes at while Harry seethes and Hermione will ask ... Harry, who is that gorgeous young man? You know, the one Ginny is flirting with. I'd like to meet him. She'll kill two birds with one stone ... stirring up both Harry and Ron.

That will be an epic battle (of the sexes) to remember.

PotionA
November 11th, 2005, 6:57 pm
I agree :agree:
I think the wedding will be the calm before the storm. Has anyone considered it might be a double wedding - Lupin & Tonks tie the knot at the same time. And then Harry and Ginny get together and Ron and Hermione..... :love:anice beginning to a dark book.

It would be so perfect if they had a double wedding but alas, I don't think Moony, as much as he loves Tonks, I think he'll wait till Voldemort's downfall to tie the knot. He had accepted Tonks' love for him and I think that's as far as he can go at the moment because he might just not want to commit himself totally during the war.

And I'm also expecting a Ron and Hermione outburst during the wedding, leading to some serious snogging, Harry and Ginny on the other hand might have a talk where Ginny tries to persuade him to take her on the mission, they might have a row and she might try to explain as to why this break up is pointless etc etc. They'll get back sometime in the middle, if not, in the end.

I don't think that this will happen. The wedding will be a way of starting out on a happy note to be dashed to pieces by something utterly horrible shortly afterwards.

Doubtful. Harry considers the wedding as his last golden day with his friends and he will have his moment of peace before he starts his mission. Plus it follows the pattern of the books because the wedding will probably take place during summer, which is the at the beginning of the book after Harry joins the Weasleys from Privet Drive and the story just sort of builds up from there without any major action.

XD I can just picture Rons face if Fleur's grandmother turns up. Here he was, planning to have a nice time with Hermione, only to be dazed by a kind of magic he's particularly succeptible too. In fact, I can see him leaving the room so he doesn't do something stupid in front of Hermione. She got annoyed enough at him for that before they were going out.

Well he might be enchanted by Fleur's grandmother and I can see all of her Veela relatives trying to get Ron to dance with them but this time, his eyes will only be for Hermione and he will refuse all of them. It'll make a nice parallel with the Yule Ball when he had asked Fleur, got rejected, and then asked Hermione as a last resort.

CathyWeasley
November 13th, 2005, 3:12 pm
Actually, I'll bet Lupin wouldn't want to detract from Bill and Fleur's "moment" (not to mention that Fleur probably wouldn't hear of it!).

Can't you hear her saying " I will be so beautiful zat nuzzing could detract from me!":rotfl:
But I think yall right - I think Moony'll take some cajouling.

Love all the comments about ROn and Hermione. What with the possibility of Viktor coming and all of Phlegm's er sorry Fleur's Veela relatives, there are many interesting possibilties re R&H.:eyebrows: